Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Gerry Hull]

The K3/0 Mini is sold.  Thanks for your interest.

73

Gerry W1VE

On Sat, Apr 29, 2023, 11:58 AM Gerry Hull  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have a spare K3/0 mini I which is surplus to my needs.  It is
> the original K3/0 Mini, serial number 8152.
>
> I will also include an Elecraft octopus cable which may need some TLC.
> The K3/0 mini is in perfect condition (photo upon request.)
>
> First $450 to Venmo or Zelle takes it.
> Free USPS Priority shipping in the US.
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry W1VE
> Hancock, NH
>
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[Elecraft] FS: K3/0 Mini

[Gerry Hull]

Hello,

I have a spare K3/0 mini I which is surplus to my needs.  It is
the original K3/0 Mini, serial number 8152.

I will also include an Elecraft octopus cable which may need some TLC.  The
K3/0 mini is in perfect condition (photo upon request.)

First $450 to Venmo or Zelle takes it.
Free USPS Priority shipping in the US.

73,

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Hancock, NH
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Re: [Elecraft] RigRemote with K3 Mini

[Gerry Hull]

Sure.  Ping me offline and ill get you going.

73

Gerry W1VE

On Sun, Sep 4, 2022, 3:16 PM Jim Rhodes  wrote:

> Is there anyone out there who can help me with the setup for a pair of
> RigRemote boxes and my K3-K3/0 Mini. It keeps giving me that 3 beep error
> message. Off line would be great.
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Re: [Elecraft] RRK0CBL Source?

[Gerry Hull via Elecraft]

Wow!!  Thanks Randy.  You learn something new every day.  I did not know
they existed.

Thanks!

73

Gerry W1VE

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022, 8:48 AM RANDY SCHAAF  wrote:

> You can buy repair clips on amazon.  They work well
>
> 73
>
> Randy
>
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> > On Aug 5, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Gerry Hull via Elecraft <
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >
> > Through many years of very active service, the plastic Clips on my RJ45
> > cables of the "octopus" cable have broken off
> >
> > Elecraft says 'out of stock'. Only other vendor I see is someone in
> Europe
> > for 75 euros.
> >
> > Does anyone know of a source or have one they want to part with?
> >
> > Otherwise Ill have to hack some together.
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[Elecraft] RRK0CBL Source?

[Gerry Hull via Elecraft]

Through many years of very active service, the plastic Clips on my RJ45
cables of the "octopus" cable have broken off

Elecraft says 'out of stock'. Only other vendor I see is someone in Europe
for 75 euros.

Does anyone know of a source or have one they want to part with?

Otherwise Ill have to hack some together.

73

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Main Tuning Knob...

[Gerry Hull via Elecraft]

Wow, what a group.  Quite an outpouring of offers.  I'm all set.
Now to get set up for SO2R remote with my two K3/0s.

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On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 9:50 AM Gerry Hull  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> I am looking for a main K3 Tuning knob.  I can't see one on the Elecraft
> site, and am worried about delivery times anyway.
>
> Has anyone got a spare or an aftermarket version?
>
> (I have two K3/0s, and one was put away for a while.  The knob must have
> been loose, and it fell off -- cannot find it.)
>
> 73,
>
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[Elecraft] K3 Main Tuning Knob...

[Gerry Hull via Elecraft]

Hey,

I am looking for a main K3 Tuning knob.  I can't see one on the Elecraft
site, and am worried about delivery times anyway.

Has anyone got a spare or an aftermarket version?

(I have two K3/0s, and one was put away for a while.  The knob must have
been loose, and it fell off -- cannot find it.)

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] USB sound recommendations for KX3 I/Q

[Gerry Hull]

Exactly what you want: 192 KHz sound card for RasPi:

https://nanomesher.com/shop/NanoSound-c24616736


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On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 9:16 AM Gerry Hull  wrote:

>
> https://www.amazon.com/Cubilux-Headphone-Converter-External-Compatible/dp/B08L9C7233/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2NTEYK41W90KM=192khz+usb+sound+card=1657199725=192+Khz+usb+%2Caps%2C75=8-5
> $11, size of a USB plug, 192KHz support.
>
> 73,
>
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>
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 12:26 PM Tim Tucker  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a portable-sized USB sound card
>> adapter to use with the KX3 I/Q?  I had an older Diamond with 192 khz
>> input
>> that I gave with the sale of K3, but I can't seem to locate any new
>> devices
>> with 192 khz bandwidth that are also suitable for portable use - like with
>> a Raspberry Pi 400.  Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks!
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Re: [Elecraft] USB sound recommendations for KX3 I/Q

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https://www.amazon.com/Cubilux-Headphone-Converter-External-Compatible/dp/B08L9C7233/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2NTEYK41W90KM=192khz+usb+sound+card=1657199725=192+Khz+usb+%2Caps%2C75=8-5
$11, size of a USB plug, 192KHz support.

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On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 12:26 PM Tim Tucker  wrote:

> Does anyone have a recommendation for a portable-sized USB sound card
> adapter to use with the KX3 I/Q?  I had an older Diamond with 192 khz input
> that I gave with the sale of K3, but I can't seem to locate any new devices
> with 192 khz bandwidth that are also suitable for portable use - like with
> a Raspberry Pi 400.  Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
> Tim
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Re: [Elecraft] COM port problems

[Gerry Hull]

LOL!

Jim and Dave,

You both have made great contribution to the hobby.

I am an ex ARRL Assistant Technical Editor, working with  Doug DeMaw,
W1FB,  and Jerry Hall,  K1TD in the Tech Department of ARRL, and  was a
contributor to the ARRL Handbook  and  QST editor.  Oh, and 47 years in the
hobby now:  I think i know a thing or two about radio, but, am always
learning -- that's what keeps it interesting.

Other than that,  I've spent 35+ years as a software engineer.

Measuring a ham's worth by what they know technically is, sad to say, a
very myopic view of the world.   Many hams are non-technical, especially
new ones.  Many come to the hobby from non-technical backgrounds, and are
usually excellent communicators. They enrich our hobby tremendously,
never the less.

>From my experience, RS-232  and CAT in general is one of the most difficult
issues hams deal with.  "Plug and Play" and the details of the intricacies
of the USB bus and different Windows device driver models are not on any
ham exam, nor should an end user ever have to mess with them.It is a
difficult challenge to solve for end uses due to the incredible complexity
of the Windows PC ecosystem.

As a contester, I know messing with interfacing CAT, Sound and Networking
are the bain of many, and consume the most time in prep for any event.
This is the nature of our hobby today.  However, there is no need to get a
CS degree to have fun.
Please keep contributing, but remember not everyone has your skills.

Judging from the number of private emails I've received, I know I'm helping
people solve their issues.

We are on the Elecraft reflector.

Bravo to the Elecraft team.  They build radios for communicators, not
computer geeks.  IMHO, the only company that really gets that.

Peace.

73,

Gerry W1VE








On Thu, Jul 7, 2022, 4:58 AM Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 7/7/2022 12:58 AM, Dave B via Elecraft wrote:
> > Well, this is a "technical" hobby, and such technicalities are not going
> > to go away anytime soon I suspect.  Especially in regards to the use of
> > computers in the shack.
>
> Yep. Traditionally, ham radio has been a hobby for those who what to
> LEARN stuff. The guys who put us in space and on the moon started out
> with ham radio and the ARRL Handbook. I'm of that generation, worked in
> other fields, but that's how I started out!
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] COM port problems

[Gerry Hull]

Great info, Dave.   Might be a little technical for some users.

The #1 problem most hams have is they plug their USB-To-Serial
adapters into different USB ports, and the COM port number changes.
Not only that, Windows leaves the old port number reserved much of the time.

I have an in-depth blog post which talks about this in layman's terms on my
blog.  See
https://blog.remote.radio/2020/11/automation-in-amateur-radio-rs-232-for.html

As explained in that blog article, there is a way to solve this problem.
 Digi, a company who has been in the business for many decades, has a
series of USB-to-Serial adapters
called Edgeport, from 1 to 16 ports.   The great thing about Edgeport
devices is they have a driver and utility.  If you use that, the COM port
number is associated with
the BOX, not where it is plugged in.

Edgeport devices are quite expensive when new, but can often be found on
the surplus market (ebay, etc).   They have been used to do baudot by hams
for decades.  I use them all over the place.
I have 4,8, and 16-port USB-to-serials that are surplus to my needs if
anyone is interested.

They solve the RS-232 port issue every time!

73,

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On Sun, Jul 3, 2022 at 7:04 AM Dave B via Elecraft 
wrote:

> FYI...
>
> Windows users, can use these utilities to find out what is/was connected
> to their PC's by USB etc...
>
> USBview:  A Microsoft (was System Internals who MS bought) tool.
> The easiest way to find it is here:- https://ftdichip.com/utilities/
> "Microsoft USBView - USB Connection Viewer"
> There is a link to download a zipfile that contains it:-
> https://ftdichip.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/usbview.zip
> That contains a single stand-alone exe file that is the utility. Put it
> in a folder of it's own, and create a shortcut to it for your desktop.
>
> (Also a link to a Linux version, that does work, but needs compiling
> from source, and running using sudo as it needs elevated rights to read
> the running configuration files to get the information to display.)
>
>
> Another similar tool is USBDview
> https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.html
> That shows a much more detailed list of what Windows knows about, that
> is, any USB device that was ever connected since windows was initially
> installed, regardless of if it was ever used!
>
> You can also delete instances of old / defunct devices easily with this
> very useful tool.
> (Some AV tools say it's suspect or malicious.  Use VirusTotal.com to
> verify if it (or anything else) is bad, on a file by file, or webpage
> basis. )
>
>
> Note that if for whatever reason Windows (or Linux) re-enumerates
> things, the linkage between a physical device and it's COM port number
> can (and often does!) change.  Seemingly at the will of some minor deity
> somewhere...   That of course, will break any software that expects some
> specific device to be at a specific COM port.
>
> Windows has the means to "Fix" that.  (Known to work up to Win10, that I
> have personally tested it on.)
> Find those details here:-
> https://sourceforge.net/p/fldigi/wiki/windows_com_howto/
> I wrote much of that after hours of "fun" some years ago...   As above,
> it works well with Win-10.
>
>
> For Linux users, look up and explore the world of "udev rules". But...
> They are only really easy to setup, if a USB device has a unique
> "something" in it's USB descriptor, that the OS uses to identify it.
> Such as a Serial Number.   FTDI devices have unique sn's, but Prolific,
> SiLabs and others sadly do not.  So, it gets funky if you have several
> of the same type of device that all "look the same" to the OS.
>
> (Newer genuine FTDI devices also have the ability to have that serial
> number (and some other settings) re-programmed!   Fakes seem to take the
> reprogramming, but the new data does not "stick".  Don't ask how I found
> that out!)
>
> However, you can use the "connection path" between the OS and the
> Device, as a deciding factor, but then you are forced into hooking
> everything up "EXACTLY" the same each time.  (Hub's and all...) But it
> does work.
>
> Using them, you create "symbolic links" to the actual port used, so for
> example my VHF radio appears as /dev/ttyFT736  Regardless of which hole
> I connect it's associated FTDI serial adapter to on the PC (or via any
> hubs!)  Or what /dev/ttyUSB* the OS re-assigns it to if things are
> re-enumerated for whatever reason.)
>
> For example, this is the rule for my ancient FT-736
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[Elecraft] K3s Technical Question?

[Gerry Hull]

From the programmers Manual:

" BR (Serial I/O Baud Rate; SET only) SET format: BRn; where n is 0 (4800
b), 1 (9600 b), 2 (19200 b), or 3 (38400 b). Note: The K3 firmware download
utility automatically sets the K3 to 38400 baud for downloads, then
restores the baud rate to the user’s selection (made using the K3’s
CONFIG:RS232 menu entry).  "

The question:  Is there a way to change the K3s from RS-232 to USB
programmatically?
I want to do this for remote-control reasons.   OF course, I know I'll lose
connectivity via
RS-232 once switched!

I want the ability to switch from RRC1258 + K3/0 to a software-only remote.
I know I can do this by using the COM1 port on the station RRC, but would
like to
do it programmatically as well.

Has BR been extended in the K3s or is there no way to do this? (It would
also be a great way to recover from a remote op accidentally switching
RS-232 to USB on a K3/0 mini!)
TIA

CU all in Dayton,

73,

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[Elecraft] K4 CAT over IP with N1MM+

[Gerry Hull]

I operate remote a lot.  I have not had the opportunity to try the K4
remote, because
there is no client yet.

However, it is possible, I believe, to operate the K4 using N1MM+ only.

In doing some tests, I have successfully controlled SmartSDR Mac using
N1MM+.  It works
beautifully.

I'd encourage those with K4's to try this solution and let me know.

If you want to see it in action, Here's a very short video of EA3HSO,
running SmartSDR for Mac, sending CW from N1MM+ in a Windows Virtual
Machine on Mac.

https://files.w1ve.com/n1mm_ssdrmac_ea3hso.mp4

So, what is the magic sauce?

There are multiple FREE products that map a virtual serial port to a TCP
connection,either as a server or as a client.

https://www.netburner.com/virtual-com-port/

https://www.hw-group.com/software/hw-vsp3-virtual-serial-port

I use the netburner version.

When you run the application, you create 1-to-N com port to TCP mappings.

You would connect to the K4 using this software.  This could be on the LAN,
or over the Internet using Port Forwarding.

Install the Netburner or HW-group software on your Windows PC.  The steps
are pretty much the same in either software. In the Netburner software, you
create a new virtual serial port, with a TCP CLIENT, connecting to the K4's
IP address and port.

Once you configure it, you will see the status in the software.

By the way, the NetBurner software runs as a service, so once configured,
it is always there when you boot Windows.

Start N1MM, and configure for K4 (at 38400 baud, though the speed does not
really matter.)

You should have CAT control.  It if does not come up directly, go to the
Bandmap and press on the red message at the top.

How does CW work?  If local, you are good.  This is for you guys to test.
I presume the K4 supports KY macros?

In N1MM, you use the CAT1ASC command. For example to call CQ,
{CAT1ASC KY CQ CQ DE *;}
(* is your call, ! is the call in the entry window.)

KY Macros have limitations on N1MM, but for most contesting and general
QSOs, it is fine.

So, K4 owners: give this a try.  It will allow remote before the K4 remote
is available.

Let me know your findings,

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Remote Software?

[Gerry Hull]

Works great, Fred, if you have very low latency to W7RN.  Sending winkey
over the wire and generating the CW @ the station
has always been flawless for me...  but that works for you, and that's
awesome.  There is no one solution: it's always a systems
problem.

73,

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On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 9:54 PM Fred Jensen  wrote:

> As a proponent of the "Regardless of the MTBF of each part, put enough
> on the rocket and something will always be broken," I opt for fewer is
> better, especially if software/firmware is involved.  I key W7RN
> remotely from my local Winkey on Pin 4 of the I/O connector on the back
> of the RRC-1258.  It is the direct key line to the remote radio,
> bypassing emulations of keyers, control of remote interfaces/remote
> Winkeys, and the like.  My keying, monitored off the air on my P3 and K2
> at home looks and sounds perfect ... all the time. Well other than
> operator-caused errors.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
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> Gerry Hull wrote on 12/22/2021 4:44 PM:
> > As of today, the combo of the K3s + Mirobit RRC boxes rocks the remote
> > world.  That's not just my humble opinion, its a proven fact via results.
> > In fact, many bypass the audio built into other systems and use RRC boxes
> > to mitigate these issues.
> >
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Remote Software?

[Gerry Hull]

Hi Jim,

I've been doing remote ham radio in serious contest stations for about 10
years now...

Though is wasn't me, the guys at ZF1A achieved a 433-QSO-per hour CW rate
on remote, using a K3 and Microbit RRC boxes.  On non-ideal Internet paths,
I typically reach 175+ hour rates on CW.  This is not to brag -- it is to
illusttate that overall latency in Internet remote operation is really not
a factor in well-designed systems.  Like you say, Jim, there are many
things that contribute to overall latency.

In a previous life, i worked in broadcast TV video and audio systems, on
the Windows platform.  Audio latency was there, but mitigated by proper
techniques.


The so-called, self-proclaimed "leader" in remote amateur radiio systems
has serious problems with latency   -- so bad that I've had to resort to
using third-party, open source audio software with very low latency to
overcome issues.

As of today, the combo of the K3s + Mirobit RRC boxes rocks the remote
world.  That's not just my humble opinion, its a proven fact via results.
In fact, many bypass the audio built into other systems and use RRC boxes
to mitigate these issues.

I'm just hoping the excellent Elecraft engineering team can approach the
same level of performance in the V4 remote.

73,

Gerry W1VE

On Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 4:45 PM Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 12/22/2021 1:31 PM, Rich Lim via Elecraft wrote:
> > Solve the latency issue and we all hit the jackpot!
>
> We can't "solve" the latency issue, we can only minimize it. Latency in
> any system is the sum of the latencies of all parts of the path. The
> parts of it under Elecraft's control are those associated with their
> hardware, signal processing, and control software, and how much
> information must be transmitted to accomplish remote operation. Most of
> the latency in most systems is the signal path outside our electronics.
> In pro sound reinforcement, it's the path of sound waves through the air
> from loudspeakers to performers and the audience. In our RC systems,
> it's the path through "the cloud."
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Remote Software?

[Gerry Hull]

FB Wayne!!  Can't wait.   I hope the latency will be far better than some
(I won't mention) other radios.
GL to the team.  Thanks for all the hard work!  Happy Holidays!

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On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 4:19 PM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Hi Gerry,
>
> The Virtual K4 software ("VK4") is coming along. Now that we have the
> digital voice recorder up and running, we're turning our attention to
> streaming audio over ethernet, which is required for VK4.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> > On Dec 22, 2021, at 6:44 AM, Gerry Hull  wrote:
> >
> > I don't see anything about K4 remote software?   Is there none?  No
> virtual
> > front panel?
> >
> > What's the plan?
> >
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[Elecraft] K4 Remote Software?

[Gerry Hull]

I don't see anything about K4 remote software?   Is there none?  No virtual
front panel?

What's the plan?

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[Elecraft] The K3/0 Zero as a Remote Frequency knob/PTT for ANY radio with CAT

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Folks,

In my endeavor to find a way to frequency control a Flex using a K3/0, I
tested a couple of solutions.  Nothing worked exactly to my needs.

Then I thought of a very cool idea.   Our friend who developed Skimmer,
VE3NEA, also has a rig-control library called OmniRig.

With a little software glue, I could use OmniRig to build a CATMapper --
not for everything, but for all frequency-related functions and for PTT!!
 It's a little Windows desktop app.

Well, I did it and it works very well.

For you guys trying to do K3/0 + Flex,
- Fire up the Flex with SmartSDR
- Go to SmartSDR-CAT, and ensure you have a COM port for CAT -- and note it.
- Connect your K3/0 to your PC via the USB connector on the side near the
Power connector.
Check your device manager for the COM port number of the K3/0.

Download OmniRig and install it if you don't have it already.
http://www.dxatlas.com/OmniRig/Files/OmniRig.zip
(if you have Windows 10, unblock the app by right-clicking on Zip, choose
Properties and check the Unblock box).  Run the installer.

Download my little app:  https://files.w1ve.com/catmapper.exe
  (if you have Windows 10, unblock the app by right-clicking on exe, choose
Properties and check the Unblock box).   You can run the program from
anywhere.

You press the configure button and configure for your two radio types:
Elecraft K3 for the Mini or a K3, and whatever you want, like SmartSDR for
the Flex.  Make sure to match baud rates, etc.   I recommend a 250ms poll
time.

You should start the app once the K3/0 is connected to the PC, and your
other radio application is connected and running (like SmartSDR-CAT).

This will 100% work with RHR's desktop app -- EVEN WITH a logger like N1MM+
running.  If you want to use with RHR app, Turn off support for K3/0 in the
RHR app -- this replaces it.

This solution will work well with desktop-only virtual radio solutions that
don't have a knob, as long as CAT for the remote radio is exposed locally
on the computer.

The K3/0 is an amazing piece of gear.  I just wish they had not stopped
making it.

73,

Gerry Hull, *W1VE  *Hancock, NH USA
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[Elecraft] K3/0 (Original) odd behaviour

[Gerry Hull]

Hi All,

I have a K3/0 that I've had for quite a while.
I remote with the K3/0 mini, but would love to have the K3/0 for SO2R.

I can't seem to get the K3/0 communicating, though it worked fine in
the past.

Here's the weird symptoms:

If I use the K3 Utility, I can communicate fine with it.   It finds the
K3/0 right away,
and even updated the firmware.

However, if I connect it to an RC, it does nothing at power up.

If I connect a Terminal program to it, I see it issue a BREAK (Hex 00) at
power up and nothing else.  I presume it should send a PS1; to turn on the
remote K3 Power?

Any help or hints appreciated.


73,

Gerry W1VE
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[Elecraft] Macro to change Serial from RS232 39400 to USB and back...

[Gerry Hull]

Hey folks,

This is a technical one where I'm not sure of the correct macro.

Situation:

K3s, Remote via RRC 1258, using the serial connection.
However, we want an alternate remote that is supported by N1MM on the
desktop.

Therefore, I want to be able to switch between USB and RS-232 ports for rig
control.

When on the Remote, I can just use the K3/0 menu to switch to USB, at which
time I'll
lose rig control.

Then, using Anydesk/Teamviewer/etc ... I can connect N1MM on the remote PC
and play radio over the USB port.

However, I won't have a way to set the rig back to RS-232 38400 to use
RemoteRig again...

Solution?

However, there seems to be the RS232 MN057; macro, which gets you to the
RS232 menu setting.  I'm just looking for the right sequence to go either
direction; obviously, I'll need to be connected on the right port to move
control back

And... I'll only test this when I'm local in the station! :-)

Any help appreciated.

73,

Gerry W1VE
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Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

[Gerry Hull]

Not discussed here is the fact that Elecraft is foremost a business.  A
first rule of business is don’t announce new products if you have current
products to sell.  Announcing a K4 while there are K3s to sell would kill
K3s sales.

That said, Elecraft would not remain in business if they were not
innovating and working on new products.

Loose lips sink ships.

I’m happy to wait for new product announcements when they come.

Bravo to all the Elecraft team for your quality in both product and
business strategy.

73,

Gerry W1VE

On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 1:16 PM  wrote:

> Before I spend money on a K3S, I’m just curious.. is a K4 in the planning
> stages? I bought my K3 and unpackaged it and just days later the K3S was
> announced. I was livid.. LOL
>
> so.. what say Elecraft?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] new K3/0 Mini

[Gerry Hull]

Not true, Jorge!

I have used it mobile, at conventions, and many radio club demos.

Don't forget about the Android client for RRC (Nano) (they need a new one,
but old one works).  If you have your station fully automated as far as
band switching,
the NANO client works perfectly on your phone.

I understand what you are asking for -- and it will come!

73,

Gerry W1VE / VE1RM





On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:26 PM Jorge Diez - CX6VM 
wrote:

> Hello Gerry
>
> Elecraft + remoterig works very good.
>
> I think once´s VY1AAA setup was ready, you left it there for all this
> years.
>
> I am thinking about the case i need to travel every week, 3 days a week,
> and i want to take my remote solution with me.
>
> Something easiest to connect and get ready will be grate for this cases
>
> 73,
> Jorge
>
> El jue., 7 mar. 2019 a las 13:45, Gerry Hull () escribió:
>
>> I have four years of experience using the RemoteRig boxes with both the
>> K3/0 Full-size box and the K3/0 Mini.
>>
>> One must remember that the RRC 1258 boxes are not purpose-built for
>> Elecraft, though the solution is elegant, and works flawlessly week after
>> week once it has
>> been configured properly.
>>
>> Comparing the Flex solution of the Elecraft + RemoteRig solution is
>> comparing Apples to Oranges.  I would hold Flex to an even higher
>> standard:  It's a one-company solution, designed way after the Elecraft +
>> RemoteRig stuff was on the market.
>>
>> Hopefully, the K4, or what is ever next from Elecraft, will have
>> a detachable front panel --- and the connection between the front panel
>> and
>> radio chassis will be Ethernet! (One can dream).
>>
>> So Flex and Elecraft, I believe, pretty much own the Remote market, which
>> is growing rapidly.   I'm sure Eric and team are not sitting on their
>> hands
>> regarding remote.
>>
>> I just passed 25,000 QSOs from VY1AAA, remoting from 4500km away in New
>> Hampshire.   The remote end is simple DSL.   The technology rocks.
>> Packaging is the result of multiple vendors.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Gerry Hull, W1VE / VE1RM
>> Trustee, VY1AAA
>> Hancock, NH
>>
>> Gerry Hull, W1VE  Hancock, NH USA
>> Member: ARRL, YCCC, YCCCN, CW Ops
>> ge...@w1ve.com ph: 1-617-CW-SPARK (find me)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 11:56 AM Barry Baines via Elecraft <
>> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Fred:
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Feb 28, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Fred Massey  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > A K3/0 that could directly connect over the internet with a K3s (K3s+
>> or
>> > > K4) is really needed.  The remoterig is relatively difficult and old
>> > tech.
>> > > The client server architecture like flex is using is what is needed.
>> >
>> >
>> > I use the existing K3/0-Mini and Remote Rig with my K3 and the Flex-6700
>> > through Maestro remotely.  Both approaches have their advantages and
>> > disadvantages and in essence we’re comparing apples to oranges.
>> >
>> > The K3 approach through Remote Rig is admittedly ‘kludgy’ given external
>> > boxes, cabling, and settings.  However, once up and running it is very
>> good
>> > and reliable. Most importantly, the system requires little bandwidth for
>> > radio control and audio. I can use the K3 remote system controlling a K3
>> > station in rural southeast Georgia which has a DSL connection and max
>> > upload of 1.2 MBps.  In most cases, it is 768 Mbps.  In addition, it is
>> a
>> > ’self-contained’ system where no one else has connectivity and the
>> > connection is directly between the remote and the K3.  I am not
>> dependent
>> > upon Elecraft to maintain a system for managing my connections.
>> However,
>> > this approach also requires separate means to manage the KPA500 and
>> KAT500.
>> >
>> > The Remote Rig RC-1216H provides a web interface for the KPA500 and I
>> use
>> > a second RC-1216H to control the rotor (Green Heron RT-21 managing an
>> Orion
>> > Rotor).  Of course, there isn’t a panadapter remote option which would
>> take
>> > uplink bandwidth. What I miss is the direct controllability of the
>> KAT500
>> > which requires the KAT500 utility to be controlled remotely.  I’ve done
>> > this using a Serial-to-Ethernet converter, but I don’t llke it because
>> it
>> > requires a PC to run it.  I hope at some point that Remote Rig would
>> > upgrade the 

Re: [Elecraft] new K3/0 Mini

[Gerry Hull]

I have four years of experience using the RemoteRig boxes with both the
K3/0 Full-size box and the K3/0 Mini.

One must remember that the RRC 1258 boxes are not purpose-built for
Elecraft, though the solution is elegant, and works flawlessly week after
week once it has
been configured properly.

Comparing the Flex solution of the Elecraft + RemoteRig solution is
comparing Apples to Oranges.  I would hold Flex to an even higher
standard:  It's a one-company solution, designed way after the Elecraft +
RemoteRig stuff was on the market.

Hopefully, the K4, or what is ever next from Elecraft, will have
a detachable front panel --- and the connection between the front panel and
radio chassis will be Ethernet! (One can dream).

So Flex and Elecraft, I believe, pretty much own the Remote market, which
is growing rapidly.   I'm sure Eric and team are not sitting on their hands
regarding remote.

I just passed 25,000 QSOs from VY1AAA, remoting from 4500km away in New
Hampshire.   The remote end is simple DSL.   The technology rocks.
Packaging is the result of multiple vendors.

73,

Gerry Hull, W1VE / VE1RM
Trustee, VY1AAA
Hancock, NH

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On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 11:56 AM Barry Baines via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Fred:
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Fred Massey  wrote:
> >
> > A K3/0 that could directly connect over the internet with a K3s (K3s+ or
> > K4) is really needed.  The remoterig is relatively difficult and old
> tech.
> > The client server architecture like flex is using is what is needed.
>
>
> I use the existing K3/0-Mini and Remote Rig with my K3 and the Flex-6700
> through Maestro remotely.  Both approaches have their advantages and
> disadvantages and in essence we’re comparing apples to oranges.
>
> The K3 approach through Remote Rig is admittedly ‘kludgy’ given external
> boxes, cabling, and settings.  However, once up and running it is very good
> and reliable. Most importantly, the system requires little bandwidth for
> radio control and audio. I can use the K3 remote system controlling a K3
> station in rural southeast Georgia which has a DSL connection and max
> upload of 1.2 MBps.  In most cases, it is 768 Mbps.  In addition, it is a
> ’self-contained’ system where no one else has connectivity and the
> connection is directly between the remote and the K3.  I am not dependent
> upon Elecraft to maintain a system for managing my connections.  However,
> this approach also requires separate means to manage the KPA500 and KAT500.
>
> The Remote Rig RC-1216H provides a web interface for the KPA500 and I use
> a second RC-1216H to control the rotor (Green Heron RT-21 managing an Orion
> Rotor).  Of course, there isn’t a panadapter remote option which would take
> uplink bandwidth. What I miss is the direct controllability of the KAT500
> which requires the KAT500 utility to be controlled remotely.  I’ve done
> this using a Serial-to-Ethernet converter, but I don’t llke it because it
> requires a PC to run it.  I hope at some point that Remote Rig would
> upgrade the firmware to manage the KAT500 so that I can use any web-capable
> device (iPad, iPhone, Mac, PC, etc.).
>
> Overall, the system works very well and I’ve been using it since September
> 2014 without problems.  I now keep a K3/0-Mini system at two different
> locations (Texas and New England) both of which cannot support a ham
> station on site.
>
> The Flex System overcomes some of the weaknesses of the K3 approach and of
> course it has a remote panadapter capabiity.  But it has taken Flex over
> five years to provide the remote capability at significantly higher cost
> and requires greater upload bandwidth.  SmartSDR 2.0 was introduced in 2017
> which means for four years I could only operate the Flex-6700 when at the
> shack.  Flex’s approach is dependent upon a server-based system to
> establish a secure link, a license fee if you’re upgrading from Version 1
> to Version 2 or Version 2 to (just announced) Version 3 of SmartSDR.  Flex
> Radio has to maintain a server system to control access remotely.  The PGXL
> amplifier can be controlled directly through Maestro or a PC running
> SmartSDR v2.xx operating from a remote site.  However, the “Tuner Genius”
> that is promised to go with the PGXL has not been released, so I’m limited
> to using my EFHW antenna to the KAT500 and the K3 setup since I do need to
> use a tuner with it.  I will say that the bandwidth requirements of the
> Flex under the current V2.49 SmartSDR is significantly less than in the
> past so it works more reliably in “Low Bandwidth" mode.  I also keep a
> Maestro in both Texas and New England.
>
> Having two different remot

Re: [Elecraft] [K3 Remote] TERM Mode no longer persists?

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Rick,

The TERM message should always be transitory.  If it is not, you have an
RS-232 control problem (like the null-modem issue).  Check all your
cables.  In 100% of the times I've seen this issue, it's a loose connector
or a mismatched cable

73

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On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:50 PM Rick Tavan  wrote:

> I seem to be suffering a recurrence of a very old problem (years ago) for
> which I don't recall the solution:
>
> I have a real K3 at the control site, controlling a K3 at the remote site
> via RRC-1258 MkII boxes. I have a mechanical D-SUB 9 pin switch to route
> the control site K3 serial port to either a local computer or the RRC. When
> routed to the RRC and operating normally, when I turn on the K3 it begins
> to show its power-on banner in the VFO B area, then mid-way through that
> scroll detects that it's in TERM mode with an RRC connected, powers up the
> remote K3, and all is well. However, that doesn't seem to be working now.
> The control K3 comes up and fails to detect the RRC. The power-on banner
> for the control K3 completes its scroll and the radio operates locally. I
> think it is slipping out of TERM mode. I can force it back into TERM mode
> with a long hold of the CONFIG button, but then it never turns on the
> remote radio. If I turn off the control K3 and then back on, it apparently
> has forgotten it was in TERM mode.
>
> Any advice?
>
> Thanks,
>
> /Rick N6XI
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3

[Gerry Hull]

I
received some comments that people like plain Paypal for the payment
protection.  That would be fine.  Add $50 to cover Paypal fees and we can
both be happy.

73, Gerry W1VE

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:52 AM Gerry Hull  wrote:

> I am selling my less-than-three-month old KX3 for personal reasons.
> I LOVE the radio (and already own a lot of other Elecraft Gear)
>
> The package consists of: the KX3, KXAT3 Internal, 20-W Automatic ATU,
> KXBC3 Internal Charger/Real-Time Clock (all factory Assembled), A set of
> 2000mA 2100-cycle Eneloop NiMH Batteries, KXUSB Cable, After-market CW USB
> Keying Cable, Microphone, power cable. Well Packed and shipped to 48
> Priority Mail Free Shipping. Package Value: $1500. Selling for $1250.
> Paypal Friends & Family (no charge to me) or Certified Check in advance.
> Check eBay feedback using my callsign.
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[Elecraft] FS: KX3

[Gerry Hull]

I am selling my less-than-three-month old KX3 for personal reasons.
I LOVE the radio (and already own a lot of other Elecraft Gear)

The package consists of: the KX3, KXAT3 Internal, 20-W Automatic ATU, KXBC3
Internal Charger/Real-Time Clock (all factory Assembled), A set of 2000mA
2100-cycle Eneloop NiMH Batteries, KXUSB Cable, After-market CW USB Keying
Cable, Microphone, power cable. Well Packed and shipped to 48 Priority Mail
Free Shipping. Package Value: $1500. Selling for $1250. Paypal Friends &
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[Elecraft] Remote Panadaptor : Question on K3 i-f buffer amps...

[Gerry Hull]

Hello All,

I have worked with Tom, N1MM ad we now have a running remote spectrum
window running.
It's an AirSpy HF + at the station and a copy of N1MM+ which is forwarding
the XML spectral data.  Using this mode, it only uses about 6 kb/s for
spectrum display and works VFB over a very limited DSL connection.

Right now, I'm using the K3 i-f output.   It's a bit low.   I've seen some
chatter on i-f preamps for the K3, but can't seem to find any.  I need one
that has the decent filter so the LO doesn't clobber it.

Any ideas?

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 controlling K3s over Remote....

[Gerry Hull]

Figured this out myself -- If anyone is interested, you switch both the
RemoteRig boxes to Mode 4: Elecraft, Yaesu, Icom.  You cannot use the rig
to turn on the K3, but the connect button on the control-side RRC web page
does.

73, Gerry W1VE




On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 2:33 PM Gerry Hull  wrote:

> I want to use my KX3 to control K3s while traveling.
>
> Rather than buying another control cable, I have lots of parts around...
>
> Will the KX3 work with 3.3v or 5v Serial signals?
>
> If not, I presume I can run KX3-> COM2 control port on RRC (12v levels),
> thus controlling the
> remote K3.
>
> 73, Gerry W1VE
>
>
>
>
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[Elecraft] KX3 controlling K3s over Remote....

[Gerry Hull]

I want to use my KX3 to control K3s while traveling.

Rather than buying another control cable, I have lots of parts around...

Will the KX3 work with 3.3v or 5v Serial signals?

If not, I presume I can run KX3-> COM2 control port on RRC (12v levels),
thus controlling the
remote K3.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Newbie question...

[Gerry Hull]

DOH!!!

I have Sony Enloops at home :-)

LOL.  Have a great evening!

73,

Gerry Hull, W1VE  Hancock, NH USA
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On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Michael Blake  wrote:

> Gerry, the option does not come with cells.  You will have to install 8
> NiMh cells into the pack.  I use the highly recommended Sanyo Eneloops in
> mine.
>
> Michael Blake
> k9...@mac.com 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 31, 2018, at 4:34 PM, Gerry Hull  wrote:
>
> Here I am at work, my KX3 arrived, and I opened the box.
> I had ordered the assembled radio with the NiCad/RTC option.
>
> I presume I can wait till I get home.. But,
> Quick question: The radio does not turn on.  Does it come with the battery
> fully discharged, disconnected or what?  I would have thought there would
> be some note about that.
>
> 73,
>
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[Elecraft] KX3 Newbie question...

[Gerry Hull]

Here I am at work, my KX3 arrived, and I opened the box.
I had ordered the assembled radio with the NiCad/RTC option.

I presume I can wait till I get home.. But,
Quick question: The radio does not turn on.  Does it come with the battery
fully discharged, disconnected or what?  I would have thought there would
be some note about that.

73,

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[Elecraft] Any Panadaptor apps for iPad for KX3?

[Gerry Hull]

 I see apps for Andoid but nothing for KX3 that uses the I/Q out.  Anyone
got something working?

73 Gerry W1VE
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 in International carry-on luggage?

[Gerry Hull]

Hey,

Thanks for the quick replies.  Not going to worry about it.

73. Gerry W1VE

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On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 8:15 AM, Gerry Hull <ge...@w1ve.com> wrote:

> Waiting for my KX3 to arrive.  I will be doing some international travel
> in the summer.  Just wondering if anyone has carried the KX3 in carry on
> luggage or a backpack.  Do security officials get upset with the battery?
>
> 73, Gerry W1VE
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[Elecraft] KX3 in International carry-on luggage?

[Gerry Hull]

Waiting for my KX3 to arrive.  I will be doing some international travel in
the summer.  Just wondering if anyone has carried the KX3 in carry on
luggage or a backpack.  Do security officials get upset with the battery?

73, Gerry W1VE
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote operation with a K3/0 and PTT

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Serge,

Long time no talk.

Check the I/O settings on the Remote RRC web page.
You have to assign one of them correctly for the 1/8" PTT
to work correctly.

73, Gerry W1VE / VE1RM

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On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Serge_VA3SB <smbertu...@bell.net> wrote:

> Hello to the group.
>
> I have a remote setup using Remote rig boxes along with a K3s, KAT500 and
> KPA500.
> All seems to be playing well.
> I have a question regarding the use of a foot switch with the K3/0. I am
> not
> able to figure out how to use a foot switch for SSB operation rather than
> VOX. I am using a Heil Pro Set headset. I would prefer to use the foot
> switch if at all possible.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thank you
>
> Serge
> VA3SB
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[Elecraft] Basic K3/100 for sale

[Gerry Hull]

Serial Number 556, no options.   Excellent condition.  At factory January
2017 for fixes and factory upgrades.

$1550 Shipped USPS Priority.

Pictures upon request.

73, Gerry W1VE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Kit issue - Does not transmit in SSB

[Gerry Hull]

Just a quick thought... make sure you are not in TX Test mode!

73, Gerry W1VE
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 1:11 PM VE8EM <marco...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Good day,
>
> I am adressing this issue to this forum as I am puzzled and don't know what
> to do.
>
> Basically, I assembled my K3S kit about a month ago, no issues with the
> build and initial testing. I have done all of the required calibration and
> even the RF Gain calibration using the XG3 signal generator.
>
> Everything worked out fine, I was able to receive signals and hooking up my
> paddle I was able to transmit in CW. Since I have the TX Monitor option, I
> was able to see the signal and power output on the P3 display.  I did put
> back the radio in his box and put it aside for about a month as I was busy
> with other family issues (i.e. a new baby).
>
> I pulled back the radio last week as I wanted to play with the digital
> modes, after fiddling with the settings I was able to hook up the computer
> and the radio using the USB cable to use the internal sound card and
> control. I am able to receive signals on my computer, I can see the
> received
> signal on the computer display so I have no doubt that the sound card
> drivers are working. I configured the software to control the radio and
> when
> I start to transmit using the software, the radio turn into transmit mode
> and the TX red LED lights up. However, looking on the P3 Display using the
> TX Monitor, I see no signal being transmitted, if I increase the Monitor
> volume, I hear a hissing sound and there is no power output.
>
> Since I initially thought this was caused by a setting, I hooked up the MH2
> microphone and pressed the PTT, the TX LED lights up, but when I speak in
> the microphone, no signal appear on the TX Monitor, same hissing sound when
> I increase the Monitor Volume and no power output.
>
> Does anyone have faced such an issue?   Any idea what is wrong?
>
> I have assembled many kits helping other people (K3, K3S, KX3, PX3) and
> never faced any issue but for my kit, I dont get it.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Etienne Marcoux
> VE8EM
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote: RRC Device drivers under Windows 10

[Gerry Hull]

Interesting.

On my Windows 7 Pro Dell Laptop, they show up with the RRC names.

On my Windows 10 VM running on a Mac (shouldn't matter), they ALSO show up
with the RRC Names.

I'm running the latest incarnation of Windows 10, but don't know if that
matters.  If you run the Microbit setup,
it should install the proprietary drivers.

73,

Gerry Hull, W1VE  Hancock, NH USA
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On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Rick Tavan <r...@tavan.com> wrote:

> On my Win 7 machine, the RemoteRig box presents three (maybe four) virtual
> COM ports that identify themselves as Microbit Virtual COM ports in the
> Device Manager Ports listing. I just set up a Win 10 machine and the
> virtual ports materialize when I plug in the RRC-1258, but they appear as
> generic ports with Microsoft drivers. I don't know how to get the Fabula
> Tech drivers to come in as replacements. Do you?
>
> Thanks,
>
> /Rick N6XI
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[Elecraft] Upgraded K3 for Sale

[Gerry Hull]

Elecraft K3 Serial Number 7431  April 2013
- Factory Built
- RX Ant Option
- I/F Out and Transverter Interface
- KFL3A, 8-poll 250 Hz CW Filter
- KUSB Interface Cable

June 2016 Factory Upgrade
- KSYN3AUPG  New Synthesizer board (same as K3s)
- KDVR3  Digital Voice Recorder

- Latest Firmware
w/new Power Cord.

$2150  Carefully packed, shipped to your USA destination Priority Mail.
Paypal F (you pay fees) or Credit Cards accepted (2% fee)

73, Gerry W1VE
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[Elecraft] KX3 as Controller for RemoteRig for K3?

[Gerry Hull]

I have a potential op for VY1AAA who would like to use a KX3 as a
controller for RemoteRig.

The last mention of this I can find on the web is below.

Has their been any other work on this?Has the fast protocol been
implemented,
or is it beyond the capability of the KX3?

73,

Gerry, W1VE
Trustee, VY1AAA

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Gary wrote:

> I'm wondering if it would be easy to set up a kx3 to k3 remote
> option as it seems the kx3 architecture is pretty similar to the k3.

Hi Gary,

The front panels of the KX3 and K3 are quite different, so there can't
really be a 1-to-1 correspondence of KX3 controls mapping to K3
controls.

That said, the KX3 does have the ability to do very limited remote
control of another KX3, K3, or even a K2. This feature is presently
experimental and incomplete, but feel free to give it a try. (All
public releases of KX3 firmware have included this feature...we just
haven't said much about it yet.)

NOTE: The KX3 *does not* implement the ultrafast rig-control protocol
that is present in the K3 and K3/0. Instead, we created a moderately
fast version of the traditional "autoinfo" mechanism (AI). What this
means is that if you want the best remote-control performance, you
should control a remote K3 with another K3 or a K3/0, not a KX3.

Using the KX3 as a Controller:

First, you'll need to connect the two rigs together somehow. The
simplest method, and the one recommended for trying the remote-control
feature, is to use a "null-modem" cable. For example if you're using
two KX3s, connect their ACC1 jacks together using a 3-conductor cable
that has the tip and ring connections cross-wired. If the remote rig
is a K3 or K2, you can make a cable with a DE9 at that end and a 3.5
mm plug at the KX3 end, again cross-wiring the RXD and TXD signals.
You could also use the internet or even wiFi, with PCs or RemoteRig
boxes as intermediaries, and we'll have an app note on that at some
point.

Next, go into the menu at the KX3 intended to be used as the
controller and set AUTOINF to RIG CTRL. This puts the KX3 into a
benign, no-transmit, no-RX-audio state, and causes most control
changes to be sent to the remote radio. If the remote rig is a K3, its
sub receiver is turned OFF by the KX3, since a KX3 front panel has no
way to control the sub receiver yet.

IMPORTANT: As with RemoteRig installations, audio in/out and CW keying
are handled separately--not through the controller. That is, you can't
use the local KX3's mic, phones, or key jacks; you have to either wire
the corresponding devices to the remote rig directly, or provide
dedicated media channels for these. The RemoteRig boxes do this. You
connect the mic, key, and headphones directly to them, not to the
controlling KX3 (or K3, or K3/0). At the remote end, these signals are
then connected to the appropriate connectors on the K3 (etc.).

In a future release we might be able to send CW from the controlling
KX3 by embedding the characters in command packets, as well as allow
the use of the MSG play buttons.

At present the KX3 can control the following functions on a remote
radio:

VFO A
VFO B
Mode
AF gain
Filter BW (PBT on the KX3, WIDTH on the K3)
RIT offset
RIT clear

We hope to greatly expand this set of functions in the future. But
again, if want full control of a remote K3, you'll need another K3 or
a K3/0.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mini Error question

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Jim,

I'm late to the party, but just some words of advice:

- Make sure the station end is set up properly first.  As noted before,
there are three UDP ports that need to be set up in port forwarding.  You
don't have to use the ports RemoteRig recommends, but if you want to,
that's fine.  If you have VoIP phones at your QTH, use 5095 instead of
5060.If your router support a DMZ, you can use that instead of port
forwarding.Another port I like to forward is the RRC's Web server
port.  This allows you to view the rrc's configuration and status (station
end) while you are debugging a connection.  The default port is port 80.  I
would not use that; I'd make it 8080 or something along those lines.  You
still need to forward that port if you want to see it from the outside
world, and it is TCP. The remoterig box also has a Telnet interface,
another tool for debugging, which is on TCP Port 23.   (If you port forward
that, make it a non-obvious port like 2300).

If you forward the web port and the telnet port on the station end, it's
pretty quick to find out if you can get to the RRC by trying to go to it's
web page.
(before you even attempt radio operation.)

As far as internet in far off lands, I've had no issues, except with
Wireless network providers.  Multipoint-to-Point shared Wireless ISPs
typically use TDM techniques to share customers, and these radio systems
are terrible for JITTER, which kills VoIP, and incidentally, RemoteRig.
(Jitter being the difference in ping time over time. )  RemoteRig will
tolerate a TON of latency, but not a lot of jitter.  (These systems can
produce anything from 10-1000 mS of jitter, all the way to packet loss).
DSL systems are usually very good.  Fiber/cable are usually awesome.

if you get the three-tiered tone, it simply means it cannot connect to the
far party -- exactly like the "Service Not Available" tone you get from the
phone company.   This can be that the other end is not turned on, you have
the wrong DNS/IP, port forwarding is incorrect, or, you are not matching
the values specified in the station-end RRC.

If you get connected but the K3/0 is stuck in TERM, you have an RS-232
control problem (lots of guys have trouble with this).  Especially with a
K2s, when you are in either USB or RS-232 mode.

Also -- when you get connected and are adjusting menus, always remember you
are controlling the REMOTE K3, not local.  So don't change RS-232 by
accident!

If you are doing CW and using a logging program, like N1MM+, I recommend
using the mini USB cable for CW and Rig Control.  It is flawless.
At the remote end, RRC's Logical COM1 (Actual port in brackets) is your Rig
Control, and COMextra (Actual port in brackets) is your Winkey control.
(There are some settings to change in your remote RRC if you want this to
work... I can pass them along.)

For SSB, make sure you have the Station's  MIC selection set to RPNL (Rear
panel).

Not RRC or Elecraft related, but I highly recommend getting one or more Web
Power Switches (http://www.digital-loggers.com/lpc.html)
These ~$130 devices will save your butt!   They can remotely control up to
10 devices ... and, more importantly, can automatically reboot the DSL
Modem or router if you get a power glitch and they hang.  Worth their
weight in gold.

Glad to help with any questions.

73, Gerry W1VE
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On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Jim Cary <jimlc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> John/Barry
>
> Thanks for the quick responses.   I’ll be setting up the other side
> tomorrow.  I think when I had them working at home I had both units
> connected before I fired up the mini, so I didn’t have the problem.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim
>
>
> > On Oct 29, 2016, at 5:39 PM, John <j...@eeek.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > This is actually quite a simple one, luckily!
> >
> > I'm assuming when you say RRC you mean the MicroHAM RemoteRig Control
> system - I've helped set these up and test them for a couple of years now,
> so assuming I've got that bit right...
> >
> > It simply means that it's unable to talk to the other end (ie the kit
> you haven't connected at the far end).
> >
> > The MicroHAM RRC systems use SIP over UDP on three different ports - one
> for voice data, one for CAT data, and one for control signals between the
> remote head and the unit body. If it's a SIP connection error you're
> seeing, it's because the two ends of the RRC system can't see each other
> (which, as you say, is the correct case because you haven't hooked up the
> remote 

Re: [Elecraft] K3-TX "stutters" on power up

[Gerry Hull]

Fred,

I never see that on remote.  Only if I'm using N1MM for DTR CW keying and
booting a PC.

I exclusively use the USB cable for Radio Control and Winkey CW
Keying/RTTY.  No issues with that.

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On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:15 AM, Fred Jensen <k6...@foothill.net> wrote:

> This may not be new, I often pay no attention to the radio if I power it
> up, but recently I've noticed that it's going into TX multiple times as the
> start-up display scrolls by on VFO B.  I don't think it's making any RF.
>
> FWIW:  I do operate W7RN remote using RemoteRig which immediately puts the
> K3 into TERM mode.  This problem I've noticed happens when I'm operating
> from home, 100W, almost always on CW.
>
> I don't see any harm to it, it's just new, and I'm wondering.  FW is 5.38
> Any info appreciated.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
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Re: [Elecraft] K30/Mini Audio Level

[Gerry Hull]

Hi Keith,

No, the K3/0 sends remote commands to the K3 to control audio.

You DO NOT connect the RemoteRig box to the line out -- it goes from the
Speaker output to  the SP plug on RemoteRig.

If you want local + remote audio, plug headphones in and turn on HDPH+SPKR
on the station K3.

I always turn station audio to Zero before leaving and doing remote.

Never had an issue with audio with the four stations I remote into.

73,

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On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Keith Schlottman, KR7RK <ke...@kr7rk.com>
wrote:

> I've got a K30/Mini control head connected over the internet to my home QTH
> K3S using RemoteRig boxes.  The audio volume from the K30/Mini is extremely
> low.  Apparently the AF knob on the control unit (K30/Mini) does not
> control volume, rather it's set by the remote station (K3S).  However it
> seems that turning the AF Knob on the remote station has no effect, whether
> it's at min or max or anything in between, the audio from the control unit
> remains almost too low to hear.
>
> Additionally, I would prefer to have the audio out at the remote station
> muted so that my YL does not have to hear it blasting away when I am
> remoting in from my office.  Likewise, I would prefer to have a variable
> volume level at my office rather than a fixed level that can only be
> changed by shutting down.
>
> Am I missing something?  Is there a way to increase/decrease volume levels
> from the control head?
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Keith KR7RK
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote operation flexibility

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Dick,

Why do you need TRX Manager or anything of the sort?

Just bring the K3/0, RemoteRig box and whatever internet connectivity you
need.

If you need to access a desktop for antenna or KPA500, use TeamViewer or
Remote Desktop, and access any automation applications locally in the shack.

I've done many public demos with the RemoteRig gear and K3/0.  I've also
done simple Remotes using TeamViewer and Skype (just a laptop for the demo
location).

Let me know if I can help!

73, Gerry W1VE
Operating the K3 family remotely to VY1AAA, K2LE and VE4EA
Hancock, NH

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On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:15 AM, Richard Hayman <wn3r...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am operating my K-3/100, KPA-500, and KAT500 successfully using a K3/0
> at my residence with RemoteRig.
>
> I’ve been asked to setup a station in a Public Library MakerSpace. The
> problem is the antenna and feed line. To keep the cost low, I am hoping to
> be able to use a PC Laptop runningTRX-Manager and a Remote Rig black box at
> the MakeSpace.
>
> My question is a simple one. What changes do I need to make to the Remote
> configuration and jumpers to be compatible with two types of control
> methods.
>
> At the moment, the TRX-Manager will not turn on the radio. I get two error
> messages: RTS and CTS are not available. J3 in the Remote Rig ties them
> together.
>
> The solution needs to be a single configuration at the radio side to
> support control by both a PC with Control SW at the MakerSpace and the K3/0
> at home.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> 73, Dick, WN3R
>
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[Elecraft] Discover the HF Experience at ARRL Expo in Dayton

[Gerry Hull]

Hello fellow Elecraftians (or is it Elecraftors?),


I have been on a crusade to introduce new hamsto HF.We just finished
our "beta" events in Winnipeg, MB and Framingham, MA...

The idea is  teach non-hams/new hams about HF, and let them experience some
QSOs.
We all did it as youngsters at Field Day...

Well, this is pretty darn easy to do -- at a club meeting or convention --
via remote.   No dealing with compromise antennas.

So, this year at Dayton, we will have four HF Stations set up (using
remotes)..  Three are K3/0 Minis, and we we will have one Flex Maestro.

We hope that newbies/non-HF ops/non-licensed folks will stop by and make a
QSO or two.
I have an online reservation system at http://hfradio.rocks.   If you know
someone who would like to give it a go, and they are coming to Dayton, have
them sign up.

We have a bunch of ops lined up to staff the stations, as Elmers.   If you
want to spend an hour or so helping us out, please email me of list to
gerry at w1ve.com.

Where will be be connecting?  Some pretty nice stations!

W7RN
W1KM
VE4EA
VY1AAA
SK3W
K1TTT
K9CT

We will be operating mainly SSB, but will do some RTTY and CW if anyone
asks.

(and yes, we do have a good, wired, internet connection.)

The remote-side gear is being provided by private hams who are part of this
event.
Bob Heil is supplying us with headsets.

Stop by and say hello or offer your help!

73,

Gerry Hull, W1VE/VE1RM
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Gerry Hull]

Were you remote, Dennis?

I notice on the VY1AAA remote, if the sequencing is not right, I would get
ERR_KEY on the rig as well.
It seemed to happen just as I was logging a QSO (no ESM, just VOX).

This was Windows 10 locally, with the RRC.  I wonder if this is the dreaded
serial overlap issues that the N1MM and Microbit team has discovered
(manifests itself by causing WinKey to stop sending after a few characters
on CW.)   May be a completely different issue.

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On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Dennis <egan.denni...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This past weekend I experienced numerous ERR KEY messages. According to
> the manual, this ERR code is returned when one "attempts to key the
> transmitter or activate PTT during power on". When this would happen, there
> was no power turn on, nor shorted keying lines- it was in operation with
> N1MM+ in an SO2R mode.
>
> What else would cause that error message?  If I tried to key the radio
> before the PTT had been fully asserted, would I get that error?  I am
> thinking that there is some connection between that error message and some
> timing elements of the PTT/Keying process that I could correct.
>
> I have another op that is getting this error in an unrelated setup. We are
> both using the latest K3 firmware, 5.38.
>
> Dennis W1UE
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[Elecraft] K3s transmit spike?

[Gerry Hull]

​Hi,

J, VY1JA, is reporting that we have a transmit spike on our K3s which is
driving the
Alpha 9500 Grid current to excessive l​evels when initially transmitting.
This is with the drive set to about 10w.

I know there were problems a long time ago (circa 2009) with K3 power
spikes, but I thought this has long been resolved.

Suggestions, thoughts?

73,

Gerry, W1VE
for VY1AAA
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Re: [Elecraft] Mushy CW in QSK at 38 wpm and above...

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Jim,

I'm a contester... so go much above 45 and the rate starts to drop... but
when I have a serious pile, I go from 38 to 40 or 42.  So having a good
sounding K3 is important.  I used to be a QRQ rag chewer in my younger days
-- wish I had a rig as nice as a K3 back then; 60 to 70 was my enjoyable
range.  I had an Al Helfrick CMOS CW Keyboard.

I popped the front end my personal K3 attempting to do an in-band mult
 (400' sep of antennas, but it did not matter) ; so it's off the Elecraft
to get fixed, and to get the synth!!

>From the start of this thread: I was using my friend, Cary, VE4EA's K3,
which does not have the new synth.  I was remote, but using N1MM and the
KUSB.  We will get his set up properly as well.

73, Gerry W1VE / VE1RM


On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Jim Sheldon  wrote:

> Oh yes,
> The synthesizer upgrade isn't cheap, especially if you have two receivers
> (you have to upgrade the synth for each receiver, as one new one can't
> coexist with one old one, but from experience, I've found the keying sounds
> much cleaner with the new synthesizer, even at slower speeds and it
> actually helped clean up the dits on my bugs.  The bugs sounded so much
> different (better) with the new synthesizers, I had to totally readjust
> them.
>
> If you are a really serious QRQ or even medium QRQ (40-50 wpm) the
> synthesizer upgrade IMO is a must do.  Unless you are really screaming
> along at 70+, you may even forget that QRQ mode ever existed in the K3 and
> as previously stated, you won't have to lose your QRQ operation to run
> split or use the RIT at around 50 and below. (Split and RIT automatically
> turn QRQ mode off, at least in an unmodified K3.)
>
> Jim - W0EB
>
>
> "Clipped dits" is a good description. Upgrading the synth(s) will fix
>> this, even with QRQ mode turned off. In fact it's so good, that I don't
>> even use QRQ mode anymore so there is no change when RIT/XIT or Split
>> modes are engaged. You'll also find that the K3 now accurately follows an
>> external keyer, whereas before the 'clipping' was evident at higher
>> speeds.
>>
>> 73, Dale WA8SRA
>>
>>
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[Elecraft] Mushy CW in QSK at 38 wpm and above...

[Gerry Hull]

I was operating VE4EA in NAQP this weekend...

A couple of people said the CW sounded mushy.

I was running QSK, with N1MM DTR CW Keying using the KUSB.

I noticed, on the sidetone, that it got mushy around 40 wpm.

I don't know Cary's firmware rev.  Is there a fix for this?

(This is with RIT off).

Interestingly, I also used the K3S at VY1AAA, at the same speeds.  No
issues.

Did anyone notice this on the sig?  Is there a later firmware that
addresses his issue?

73,

Gerry, W1VE / VE1RM
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Re: [Elecraft] Mushy CW in QSK at 38 wpm and above...

[Gerry Hull]

Hi Vic,

This is K3, not K3s, no synth upgrade (yet!).   This is a KUSB cable for CW
keying, Stock.

You know, I've never really noticed a difference with QRQ on or off.

But, I do see a big difference when I go between 38 and 40 WPM.   I'll try
the QRQ mode again and see.  I'll also test with someone with QSK on and
off.

Thanks,

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On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO <
k2vco@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is it a K3 (not K3S) which did NOT have its synthesizer upgraded?
> If so, then you MUST have QRQ mode turned on or you will see poor CW above
> about 35 wpm. In addition, note that QRQ mode is automatically disabled
> when you turn RIT/XIT on or use SPLIT.
>
> 73,
> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Rehovot, Israel
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>
>
> On 11 Jan 2016 18:14, Gerry Hull wrote:
>
>> I was operating VE4EA in NAQP this weekend...
>>
>> A couple of people said the CW sounded mushy.
>>
>> I was running QSK, with N1MM DTR CW Keying using the KUSB.
>>
>> I noticed, on the sidetone, that it got mushy around 40 wpm.
>>
>> I don't know Cary's firmware rev.  Is there a fix for this?
>>
>> (This is with RIT off).
>>
>> Interestingly, I also used the K3S at VY1AAA, at the same speeds.  No
>> issues.
>>
>> Did anyone notice this on the sig?  Is there a later firmware that
>> addresses his issue?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Gerry, W1VE / VE1RM
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Mushy CW in QSK at 38 wpm and above...

[Gerry Hull]

One listener expressed it as "clipped dits".   I guess at 40wpm, 1mS would
make enough of a difference in dit length.

Thanks for all the feedback.

73, Gerry W1VE / VE1RM



On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> wrote:

> I don't think "mushy" is the right term. It's jitter in the CW envelope
> timing. Generally jitter is less than +/- 1 ms, but with the old synth, QRQ
> mode turned off, and the code speed in a certain range (around 40 WPM), it
> can be a bit worse.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Gerry Hull <ge...@w1ve.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Vic,
> >
> > This is K3, not K3s, no synth upgrade (yet!).   This is a KUSB cable for
> CW
> > keying, Stock.
> >
> > You know, I've never really noticed a difference with QRQ on or off.
> >
> > But, I do see a big difference when I go between 38 and 40 WPM.   I'll
> try
> > the QRQ mode again and see.  I'll also test with someone with QSK on and
> > off.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > 73, Gerry W1VE / VE1RM
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Fred and group,

You can do that to put the K3 into TERM mode, but there is absolutely no
reason to do it.
It will happen automatically.   I hoping that people don't use the "Push
the MENU button for 5 seconds" as Standard Operating Procedure.
It is an indication that you have another issue.

"Setting up the RemoteRig box is a non-trivial process."

Unfortunately,  The RemoteRig products are great stuff, but they are
designed to be used by a lot of different radios.
The documents Brandon and the team have put together from Elecraft are
good, but can be confusing if you don't pay close attention.

The RRC boxes are very configurable -- which is a good thing if you know
what's going on, but can be terrible of your not
sure what settings do.

Tie that with the fact that the manuals are many revs behind the actual
firmware, and it's a recipe for frustration for new guys.

Setting up the station-side router forwards are pretty straightforward, but
if you don't know internet routing, it can lead to trouble.

I've put together 6 different remote stations using RRCs now, so I have a
pretty good handle on the recipe, especially for the K3 twins.

I think I'll do a blog post with this recipe, also talking about the
pitfalls you can run into.  I'll post a link on the reflector here when I'm
done.

73, Gerry W1VE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Remote Operating from Assisted Living

[Gerry Hull]

Hi David,

It's upload bandwidth that is important.  800 KB/sec (0.8 Mbps) is perfect
for RemoteRig.  I use it at K2LE/1 in Vermont, where we have 1.5/.8 DSL
service.

I've operated a M/2 contest station over a 4G LTE cellular modem...  so
it's not as much as you would think.

Latency is a factor.  Jitter is the bigger killer.  I've had many fine QSOs
in contests wth >200mS of latency, but if jitter gets much over 20 or 30mS,
it chops things up pretty badly.
Of course, the more latency, the slower the audio catches up with you
tuning the VFO.

In the Continental US, I see 50-150mS of latency on average, which is
perfect for RemoteRig and K3 work.

73, Gerry W1VE
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On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:24 PM, David Christ <radio...@mchsi.com> wrote:

> So how much bandwidth is needed?  The complex we are looking at has a 40
> Meg fiber connection to their ISP.  Would think that latency would be a
> bigger concern
>
> David K0LUM
>
>
> > On Oct 12, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Dennis <egan.denni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > Having done this for several ops, the biggest issue I've faced is
> inadequate Internet at the Assisted
> > Living, Out Patient Care, or Elder care.  In 3 cases where I've been
> involved in setting one of these
> > up so an op could work a special DXpedition, the Broadband provided for
> the residents did not
> > have enough bandwidth to support the usage of a Remote Rig unit.
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s Ethernet Interface

[Gerry Hull]

There is plenty of Ethernet-to-RS-232 hardware around if you want to roll
your own.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RS232-RS485-to-TCP-IP-Ethernet-Serial-Device-Server-NEW-/301230345289?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4622ba4c49

$19, connect via TCP, TCP Server, or UDP, UDP server.

I find surplux Moxa Serial servers on ebay.  I got a 24-port 1U RS232 box
for $50...  Drivers are available for Windows or Linux.

73, Gerry W1VE

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On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Pierfrancesco Caci p...@tippete.net wrote:

 On 20 July 2015 07:53:04 CEST, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II 
 b...@wjschmidt.com wrote:
 Yes you can use it one of two ways... in TCP mode, there is a small
 driver loaded on your PC that creates a pseudo RS232 port on the
 computer that all your existing software connects to.  Your software
 thinks it's talking to your radio via RS232... but really that is an
 emulation that gets ported over the Ethernet to the radio (where the
 Ethernet to RS232 server is) and deconstructed into RS232 (RXD and TXD)
 with DTR and RTS for keying.  Your computer can be right next to your
 radio or half way around the world and the radio will never know the
 difference.  Latency is not a problem.
 
 Second mode is WEB server where the radio is emulated in web pages in
 the onboard web server (eg web page looks like the radio).  You can
 change any parameter in the setup or knob on the radio that you could
 via RS232.
 
 No security is provided.  Nor is there with the FLEX, Ten-tec, or any
 other radio that has an Ethernet connection currently.  I just use a
 Netgear firewall and VPN through it securely.
 
 
 Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ
 PJ2/K9HZ
 
 Owner - Operator
 Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC
 Staunton, Illinois
 
 Owner – Operator
 Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ
 Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
 Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com
 
 email:  b...@wjschmidt.com
 
 William,
 The fact that you mention a driver makes me think this will be limited
 to a certain OS. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 You didn't answer my question about firmware updates to the K3. Will it be
 possible to use k3util in the normal way, for doing upgrades, saving and
 restoring config, doing the calibration?
 How will network latency and packet loss affect critical operations like
 firmware uploads?
 Pf ik5pvx

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s Ethernet Interface

[Gerry Hull]

FB Bill,

Yes, I have a couple of the boards.   My career is in telecom/VoIP...
 software, rather than hardware.
What microprocessor you using?  Are you using open source software?  I'd be
interested to know which
one.

Essentially, you are doing RemoteRig over, in a different form factor.
This is awesome -- giving choice in
the marketplace.   If you ever need a beta tester, let me know!

73, Gerry W1VE

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On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II 
b...@wjschmidt.com wrote:

 Yes that is where i started. With one of those outboard boxes a couple of
 years ago. I found it easy to condense the whole thing into the K3. The
 part I'm working in now is the VOIP integration so that with just a single
 connection, you can be completely remote.


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 PJ2/K9HZ*



 Owner - Operator

 Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

 Staunton, Illinois



 Owner – Operator

 Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

 Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

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 On Jul 20, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Gerry Hull ge...@w1ve.com wrote:

 There is plenty of Ethernet-to-RS-232 hardware around if you want to roll
 your own.


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/RS232-RS485-to-TCP-IP-Ethernet-Serial-Device-Server-NEW-/301230345289?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4622ba4c49

 $19, connect via TCP, TCP Server, or UDP, UDP server.

 I find surplux Moxa Serial servers on ebay.  I got a 24-port 1U RS232 box
 for $50...  Drivers are available for Windows or Linux.

 73, Gerry W1VE

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 On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Pierfrancesco Caci p...@tippete.net
 wrote:

 On 20 July 2015 07:53:04 CEST, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II 
 b...@wjschmidt.com wrote:
 Yes you can use it one of two ways... in TCP mode, there is a small
 driver loaded on your PC that creates a pseudo RS232 port on the
 computer that all your existing software connects to.  Your software
 thinks it's talking to your radio via RS232... but really that is an
 emulation that gets ported over the Ethernet to the radio (where the
 Ethernet to RS232 server is) and deconstructed into RS232 (RXD and TXD)
 with DTR and RTS for keying.  Your computer can be right next to your
 radio or half way around the world and the radio will never know the
 difference.  Latency is not a problem.
 
 Second mode is WEB server where the radio is emulated in web pages in
 the onboard web server (eg web page looks like the radio).  You can
 change any parameter in the setup or knob on the radio that you could
 via RS232.
 
 No security is provided.  Nor is there with the FLEX, Ten-tec, or any
 other radio that has an Ethernet connection currently.  I just use a
 Netgear firewall and VPN through it securely.
 
 
 Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ
 PJ2/K9HZ
 
 Owner - Operator
 Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC
 Staunton, Illinois
 
 Owner – Operator
 Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ
 Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
 Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com
 
 email:  b...@wjschmidt.com
 
 William,
 The fact that you mention a driver makes me think this will be limited
 to a certain OS. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 You didn't answer my question about firmware updates to the K3. Will it
 be possible to use k3util in the normal way, for doing upgrades, saving and
 restoring config, doing the calibration?
 How will network latency and packet loss affect critical operations like
 firmware uploads?
 Pf ik5pvx

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s Ethernet Interface

[Gerry Hull]

What you all fail to realize is that RemoteRig is a Microbit product, not
an Elecraft product.  It's designed to be used with a number of radios.
What I'd like to see is RemoteRig in another form factor, with some type of
high-density connector that has all the important signals.

For example, why couldn't the Remoterig board be re-worked to fit on the
back of a K3/0 Mini?  That would be great.
Perhaps Elecraft can work a deal with Microbit.

From the RF site, a box redesign with a single high-density connector and
one ethernet would be great.

73,

Gerry, W1VE
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On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net wrote:

 Jack,

 All valid points but take note of K9HZ's work as a start.  Nevertheless,
 let's say native Ethernet control isn't worth the engineering effort.  That
 should not preclude the integration of RemoteRig as an option into a K3/K3s.

 If I didn't care about the resale value of my K3 or RemoteRig, I could
 easily turn this into a weekend construction project and be up and running
 on Monday morning with an Ethernet cable hanging from the back of the K3.

 The RemoteRig board would come out of its enclosure then mount in the K3.
 It's just a matter of adding an RJ45 port, tapping +12V, internal audio,
 RS-232, PTT, key line, and ACC.  The tapping of RS232 and audio is not
 trivial but it is completely manageable.

 While this adds little additional operational utility than it does now, it
 significantly cleans up K3 cabling with RemoteRig.  No change is needed at
 the client end for use with the K3 mini.  For K3 clients, a similar
 integration could accomplished or kept as it is now with external cabling.

 Of course, there must be enough demand from remote users to make it
 worthwhile as well as cooperation from Microbit.

 Paul, W9AC


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  On Jul 19, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Jack Brindle jackbrin...@me.com wrote:
 
  Paul;
 
  What is your proposal for the host-side interface? Pretty much all host
 programs these days use a serial interface. We usually use this through a
 USB-Serial adapter or through built-in serial ports, which are rapidly
 disappearing. To make this viable we would need drivers for all major
 platforms that implement a serial port  driver interface to ethernet. Or,
 the host programs will need to be modified.
 
  There is a lot of work needed to make this suggestion viable, both on
 the host and radio sides. This is the fact same reason we still use serial
 interfaces for our rigs instead of true USB interface.
  Put forth a good proposal and let it be considered. Without that work
 (whoever does it), ethernet hardware isn’t very useful.
 
  - Jack, W6FB
 
  p.s., no, this isn’t a flame, but a challenge. Let’s get the whole thing
 viable, then we will take a good look at implementing it on all sides.
 
 
  On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net wrote:
 
  This inquiry is directed to both the Elecraft leadership team as well as
  K3/K3s owners who may have an interest in native Ethernet
 connectivity.   In
  searching through the list archives, I noted that some K3 owners had
  previously expressed an interest in an Ethernet option - and some owners
  have been disappointed that the new K3s and KIO3B board does not include
  Ethernet connectivity.
 
 
 
  A bit of background: for the past few months, N4CC and I have been
 operating
  a remote Internet station that's located near the FL/GA state line.  Our
  setup includes a K3 and RemoteRig at the remote site and either a K3 or
  K3-mini at the control locations.  Since the installation, we've
 experienced
  almost no operating trouble and any issues that have developed are
 managed
  remotely though direct and back-door network access points.
 
 
 
  Last week, I made some internal changes to the K3  and also added an
  external USB data interface device for RTTY.  What's apparent is that
 cable
  management is getting way out of control.  To gain inside access to the
 K3
  almost requires a meditation exercise before going in.  Consider that a
 PR6
  is mounted to the back of the K3.  The rear of the K3 is an absolute
 rat's
  nest of cabling.  With the RemoteRig and PR6, It was bad enough before
 the
  inclusion of the external USB sound car/interface, but now it's
 bordering on
  ridiculous.   Moreover, RemoteRig does not allow clean access to the
 K3's
  ACC DB-15 connector for other purposes such as FSK keying.  Sure, the
  connector can be opened to access pins, but it requires a wiring
 break-out,
  leading to yet a further rat's nest of cabling.
 
 
 
  To help deal with the cabling issues, I am replacing the external PR6
 with
  the new KXVB3 board.  Next, a KIO3B

[Elecraft] Fwd: Windows 8.1 tablet power

[Gerry Hull]

Hi Mark,

Get the following Dell Cable:

470-ABESDell Adapter - Micro USB for Data and Charging

​It has microUSB to tablet, microusb for power, and then microusb to power
external device.

Inexpensive, works.  I use it on my Dell Venue8 Win8.1 tablet.​


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Gerry Hull]

Good perception, Jim... experience pays off.   We had this same problem
with Andy, K2LE.  We have two remoterig remote ends connected to the same
common remote station.  My audio has been flawless.  Andy kept having poor
audio -- muffled, microphonic sounds but no clear audio.  It turned out to
be the power supply, which was an underpowered switching supply.  The
RemoteRig box does not come with a supply.  I power mine off of a 4A
switcher,  and it's fine.A 1A supply should work, but they seem to have
issues.

73, Gerry W1VE


On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
wrote:

 On Wed,5/27/2015 3:04 AM, John K3TN via Elecraft wrote:

 Others have had the same audio issues, others just naturally connect their
 headset to the RemoteRig, others have had no problems with the Mini - your
 mileage may vary.


 Hi John,

 I know nothing about these products other than a vague one paragraph
 functional description, but I do suspect an issue with the audio interface
 and/or how the units are powered and bonded. Take a look at the pdf of my
 slides for a talk I did on this topic at Pacificon last fall.
 http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

 73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Gerry Hull]

​I've been using the K3/0 mini for about a year for casual DXing and for
many contests.
The K3/0 mini is perfect -- a mirror of your K3.​  Once you get used to the
the fact that
you are setting menus on the Remote radio, all will be good.

The mix that is important is how you use the K3/0 to interconnect it to the
remote shack.
As stated here, many users are using the MicroBit RemoteRig product.  This
adds about $750+/-
to your remote cost, but provides a far superior result than any other
method.

The killers in remote operation are latency and jitter (jitter being the
varying difference in latency over time.)
The Microbit boxes use dedicated hardware, and a very flexible software
configuration. to allow you to tailor the box to your needs.   The
RemoteRig components are not designed specifically for the K3; therefore,
they have a generic interface design, and Elecraft sells the specific
interconnect cable for the K3/0.

The majority of my contesting experience has been on CW in the Majors: CQWW
and ARRL DX, running remote to K2LE/1 from my QTH in NH.  The shack has
1.5Mb/.5Mb DSL service.  The average latency on the connection varies from
120-150mS, with very manageable jitter.   We run the RemoteRig boxes with
8kHz bandwidth, and this works very well.   I don't feel handicapped by
being remote at all... In many QSOs, I get unsolicited comments of great
audio on SSB, and no issues with CW.  It is just like being there.

The Microbit boxes do have a lot of configuration parameters.  You also
have to know how to port forward from your router in the shack (unless you
are using the box in your own home, and both ends are on the same LAN).  If
you are not familiar with networking, configuring the boxes can be a
challenge.  As the others have stated, the forum on the RemoteRig site is a
good resource -- search it with Google first, as much of your frustration
has already been experienced by others.

Their is another solution with the K3/0 which is essentially 15-minute plug
and play.  It is a free solution, once you own the K3/0.   This is the
software and website of Brandon, KG6YPI -- an Elecraft employee and the guy
you usually talk to if you are experiencing problems with the Microbit gear
and K3/0.

Your K3/0 has a USB connector on it.   This connector can be plugged into a
PC, and two codecs (send/receive) and two RS-232 connections (Rig Control
and passthrough) are automatically installed.

Brandon's site is www.remotehams.com.   Their is PC software for the remote
end as well as the server end.
You can use Brandon's software without the K3/0 -- but it has some very
cool features:
- If you have a K3/0 and a K3 at the station, you get full control of the
radio with all features.
- If you want to connect to a remote on RemoteHams, where the remote is NOT
a K3, you can still use the
K3/0 for frequency control and other features.

I use RemoteHams to control Dom, 3Z9DX's station, and run SSB from Poland.
  It works very well, though the overall
latency is much higher.

CW still has some work to be done.  But I know Brandon is getting there.
I've asked Dom if I could try his station in some contest on CW -- it will
be interesting to see how that works out.

I use both RemoteHams and the Microbit RemoteRig solution with the K3/0,
and am very happy with both; I will continue to use RemoteRig in serious
contest situations.

73, Gerry W1VE
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On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:39 AM, jlbates4 jlbat...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm in the midst of a terrible urge to spend some $$'s and the K3/0'-Mini's
 siren call is hard to resist.  I've done a bit of reading on the RemoteRig
 products and there is scare info on the K3/0 mini.

 I'd love to hear any testimonials, rig setups, real-world latency
 commentary, or even how you manage the firmware.

 Anyone play with the codecs?  Thoughts on the different audio quality?

 My current though is using the K3/0-Mini on the same local network and I do
 some occasional work travel, might be nice to take it with me.

 Comments encouraged!!!


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Gerry Hull]

The K3/0 does not have a network connection as part of the solution.
There are two ways to use it with the Wireless lan:
- If you use the RemoteHams software, you can use a Windows tablet
as the interface (You can get a Dell Venue 8 tablet on eBay for about
$100) and plug your K3/0 into it.
- You can use a RemoteRig box with a Wireless interface or a Wireless
Bridge.

73,

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On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Hunter Ellington via Elecraft 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote:

 This is probably a silly question, but here goes. In reading the sales
 material for the new Flex Maestro, I was intrigued by the idea of operating
 over a wireless LAN so the radio can go with you around the house. Can we
 do the same thing with the K3/0 Mini?  K0GFY  R. Hunter Ellington
 303-996-6585/720-560-8139
 P.O. Box 44
 Larkspur, CO 80118
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[Elecraft] Can a K3/0 be turned into a K3?

[Gerry Hull]

I do not see a kit for it, but it would be a cool idea for those who wanted
to convert a
K3/0 into a full rig.  Are their any plans to do this?

73, Gerry W1VE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini KEY jack not working?

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Eric/Brandon...

Have not tested the jack, but did figure out ihat the INP0 setting in RRC
had to bet set to Keyer.  With my own cable, it works FB, so I'm assuming
the KEY jack on the mini is wired the same way.  Pilot error, not Elecraft
issue.  The feedback I would give is I found no documentation in the Remote
manual describing the KEY jack on the rear, and details about how to enable
it.

73, Gerry W1VE


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On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
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 Hi Gerry,

 Brandon will be in contact with you first thing Monday to get this worked
 out.

 73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini KEY jack not working?

[Gerry Hull]

Hi Olli,

Yes, but I have an Elecraft-manufactured K3/0 Mini with an
Elecraft-manufactured Mini-to-RRC cable.  I'm not going to do something
custom!

What I wanted to do was just use the KEY jack on the back of the K3/0 Mini
-- but I guess this is not possible.

Maybe I'll tack-solder a to the back side of the RJ45 inside the RRC.

Russian DX contest conditions are very bad, anyway.

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On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Oliver Dröse dro...@necg.de wrote:

 Gerry,

 CW must be put directly into the RRC. Why don't you use the CW input pin
 on the RRC's RJ45 (see RRC documentation)? Been using that since the first
 days of RRC making it to the market (when they did not even have the
 internal keyer) for a straight key or external keyer connection ...

 73  gl,
 Olli - DH8BQA

 Contest, DX  radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de


 Am 21.03.2015 um 03:08 schrieb Gerry Hull:

 Hey All,

 So, I have this situation...

 I want to do RUDX tomorrow and trying to get things set up on the
 remote.

 For some reason, my key-over-dtr not working at the moment (may be a loose
 cable at the remote, but won't get there until after contest.)

 So, I can control the rig fine from N1MM at the remote end, and send with
 the paddle.  I was just going to add another RS-232 with DTR keying and
 drive the straight key jack.  Which I thought was the KEY mini plug just
 below the PADDLE mini plug on the back of the K3/0 mini.   However, it
 does
 not seem to do anything when I plug a straigth key in.

 Is it not working, or do I have to do something special?  Alternatively,
 I could find a spot inside the RRC to tack onto, if someone knows where.

 Sending the exchange with a paddle is not going to be fun :-(

 Let me know ASAP,

 73, Gerry W1VE


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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini KEY jack not working?

[Gerry Hull]

Hey All,

So, I have this situation...

I want to do RUDX tomorrow and trying to get things set up on the
remote.

For some reason, my key-over-dtr not working at the moment (may be a loose
cable at the remote, but won't get there until after contest.)

So, I can control the rig fine from N1MM at the remote end, and send with
the paddle.  I was just going to add another RS-232 with DTR keying and
drive the straight key jack.  Which I thought was the KEY mini plug just
below the PADDLE mini plug on the back of the K3/0 mini.   However, it does
not seem to do anything when I plug a straigth key in.

Is it not working, or do I have to do something special?  Alternatively,
I could find a spot inside the RRC to tack onto, if someone knows where.

Sending the exchange with a paddle is not going to be fun :-(

Let me know ASAP,

73, Gerry W1VE


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Re: [Elecraft] Need Aux Y Cable for K3... Where to buy?

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Thanks Guys!!

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On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


 From the archives:

 Cables and splitters are also available from Cable Wholesale:
 www.cablewholesale.com and Altex: www.altex.com

 also look at breakout boards from Winford Engineeering:
 http://www.winford.com/products/brksd15hd.php and Y cable:
 http://www.winford.com/products/cdy15hd.php

 73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


 On 2015-02-12 12:11 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:

 Hi,

 I bought one of these before, but I cannot find the vendor now.

 I need to control band decoders as well as get at the TX-Inhibit Pin
 so I can control my Acom 2S1 Commutator.

 Any help appreciated!

 73,

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[Elecraft] Need Aux Y Cable for K3... Where to buy?

[Gerry Hull]

Hi,

I bought one of these before, but I cannot find the vendor now.

I need to control band decoders as well as get at the TX-Inhibit Pin so I
can control my
Acom 2S1 Commutator.

Any help appreciated!

73,

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[Elecraft] Fwd: ARRL 10-m contest

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Wayne et al,

I used the K3 and K3/0 mini combo along with the RRC boxes to operate the
ARRL 10m contest remote from K2LE's contest station in Vermont.

Wayne, I was interested in your QSK comments.  I was using QSK on the
remote, and it was working pretty well.

I notice, however, two strange things with QSK, both remote and local...

At any speed, if I engage the RIT or go split, the QSK sounds very
different.
At 40wpm and above, the sidetone is not clean -- it seems to clip.  I know,
however, that the generated CW is just fine.

Is this something that the beta firmware will take care of?

BTW, for those of you who are contemplating CW contesting remotely using
the K3+RemoteRig, you can be rest assured that it performs
flawlessly.  Latency is not an issue.  Here's a snapshot of my rate
analysis for the contest:

The best 60 minute rate was 196/hour from 1249 to 1348
The best 30 minute rate was 220/hour from 1319 to 1348
The best 10 minute rate was 270/hour from 1330 to 1339

The best 1 minute rates were:
 6 QSOs/minute4 times.
 5 QSOs/minute9 times.
 4 QSOs/minute   74 times.
 3 QSOs/minute  143 times.
 2 QSOs/minute  172 times.
 1 QSOs/minute  167 times.

So, remote is exactly like being there!  In this operation, K2LE station
end is 1.5Mbps DSL, my end 105Mbps cable.

73.

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-- Forwarded message --
From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
Date: Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:58 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] ARRL 10-m contest
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Hi all,

I only had an hour or so of contest time, but the band was in great shape
and I worked everyone I called in both SSB and CW mode (35 QSOs in 19
states).

Just to make it more challenging, I kept power set to 5.0 watts, and used
my 6-meter antenna exclusively (not a typo--yes, this was on 10 meters).
It's a pair of 6-meter hamsticks forming a dipole, supported by a push-up
mast at about 20'. It's fed with LMR400 coax, then connected to the K3,
which has a KAT3 ATU. The ATU can tune this antenna on 20-6 meters. While
it certainly isn't very efficient on bands below 6 meters, it was good
enough to have some fun in the contest.

I was using the latest K3 firmware (rev. 5.01), which has excellent QSK
audio characteristics as reported by those using this  field-test release.

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] LDMOS for QRO [OT]

[Gerry Hull]

Here's a 144MHz 1.5Kw water-cooled LDMOS amplifier putting out full power
in a June VHF contest, with me operating at W2SZ/1.
It was a cloudy day, and the amp was so cool, in fact, we were worried
about condensation.  Look at the size!  The power supply is a 50v/50a
surplus PC supply off of ebay.
The amp was built by Brian Justin, WA1ZMS.

I have found cold plates on the surplus market.   Every once in a while,
Electronic Surplus Sales in Manchester, NH has em.

Amp in Action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vegBv6ddAUA

73

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On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 6:32 PM, David Cutter d.cut...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 I'm a little surprised that folks in this group haven't suggested liquid
 cooling for this modest application.  Semiconductor cold plates have been
 around for a long time, are economical to use and in my view a much better
 solution than forced air cooling.  They are compact, quiet, require far
 less cabinet space, keep junctions cooler and more stable than air could
 ever and enable higher reliability.

 Look at Aavid for instance, whose devices I used on many occasions:
 http://www.aavid.com/sites/default/files/products/liquid/
 pdf/liquid-cold-plate-datasheet-hicontact.pdf

 If you play your cards right, you can cool the amplifier and the power
 supply on a short 4-pass plate.  Put the heat somewhere convenient, not in
 your shack.

 73

 David
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[Elecraft] Looking for used KAT3 Antenna tuner...

[Gerry Hull]

Posting this for a friend of a friend in Poland,

Might be an impossible find, but he is looking for a used KAT3 internal
tuner if someone has one they wish to dispose of.

You can contact Tony, N2UN, directly at tjja...@earthlink.net

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Re: [Elecraft] How reliable an internet connection is needed for A K3 remote to work well?

[Gerry Hull]

I have a MicroTik inexpensive router that supports QOS, and it helps.

However, all bets are off when using far-flung networks.

BTW, I've been exclusively VoIP with my landlines for over 10 years.
 Quality is very good (using the correct provider), and, yes, cost is very
low.  All the major telecoms in the US use VoIP for backhaul from cellular
sites -- it is far less expensive than TDM. I was happy to see RemoteRig
using SIP..  It works well.




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On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Mitch Wolfson DJØQN dj...@gmx.net wrote:

 Just a further tip from my side:  the RemoteRig RRC allows ToS tagging. It
 is entered in the advanced settings under IP Type-of-Service (dec). The
 manual refers to RFC791 that use this in QoS networks and support this
 function. Entries must be made in decimal.

 Unfortunately, I have found no home routers so far (at least here in DL)
 that support QoS tags. However, this will for sure help those that do have
 routers supporting QoS.


 73,
 Mitch DJ0QN

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 On 18.07.2014 11:22, David Woolley wrote:

 It is standard to use UDP (RTP) over VoIP for the reasons given by Iain.
  Over a corporate network, VoIP traffic should have a QoS tagging on the IP
 packets which causes routers to prioritise it. VoIP over the internet has
 always been done for cost, not quality reasons, as the whole concept behind
 IP networks is at conflict with constant rate traffic; the telephone
 industry devised ATM as a packet network for that application (although
 they are now moving to IP, because voice is no longer the dominant
 bandwidth user - but I am sure they will prioritise their voice traffic).

 RTP has a marker bit which indicates a safe place to dump a latency
 buffer's contents.  Conceivably setting this during tuning would be a good
 idea.  If the remote operation protocol doesn't user RTP, someone has been
 re-inventing the wheel.

 As someone mentioned WiFi.  It is generally accepted, in the VoIP world,
 that WiFi and VoIP don't mix because WiFi introduces additional latency.  I
 believe it also does link level retransmission which, means latency can be
 particularly bad if you don't have ideal conditions.


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Re: [Elecraft] How reliable an internet connection is needed for A K3 remote to work well?

[Gerry Hull]

Here's some real-world experience from the three of the six remotes we
operated this past weekend from WRTC:

Our Network at WRTC HQ: Either 100/9 Mbps WRTC-only or 20/20 Mbps shared
with the hotel network.

PR1T: ~384 Kbps using multiple technologies

Typical ping time:  170-190 mS   Number of routing hops to PR1T:  30 (!)
Typical jitter: less than 20mS

How it worked:   We obviously had some  router issues between us.  When it
worked, it worked very well.
However, we would have dropouts where we would loose communications
completely between the sites for 5-30 seconds.
We kept a ping window up all the time so we could test.

The RRC boxes allow you to adjust CW sending so that it sounds normal on
the other end.
In the PR1T case, we used the K3/0 mini for all the audio and rig control,
but we used TeamViewer to operate N1MM remotely.
We used N1MM to send automated CQs and exchanges... this worked well, as we
were sending keystrokes only.

SK9HQ@SK3W: ~284 kbps asymmetric DSL

Typical ping time:  170-195 mS:  Number of routing hops to SK3W: ~15
Typical jitter: lless than 10mS

How it worked:  Very well.   We could send CW from the RRC locally, and it
sounded good.  I adjusted the RRC to take the
transit times into account.  We also used TeamViwer to control WinTest
locally at SK3W (easy, and it also gave us all the
local station control interfaces at SK3W)

W1VE@K2LE/1:  1.5/.7 Mbps  asymmetric DSL

Typical ping time: 50-55 mS; Number of routing hops to K2LE/1: ~10
Typical jitter: less than 10 mS

How it worked:  Flawlessly.  We networked N1MM over a VPN; Andy was at his
staiton in Vermont, and the second
operating position was at WRTC HQ.   All CW was sent from the remote.

Note that in all cases, we were able to run very high rates (200/hr on
both CW and SSB); being remote did not affect the
ability to make fast QSOs.

From prior experience, I can tell you that attempting to run RemoteRig and
a K3 over Multipoint-to-Point Wireless ISPs is very, very difficult.
In this case, you are on a TDM half-duplex connection, and there is HUGE
opportunity for dropouts and very high jitter. (which is going to be
a killer).

If you are trying to remote to a mountain top, find someone (like another
ham) who has high-speed (Fiber or Coax), and run a point-to-point
link on 5 GHz...  This can work very well, and there is a lot of cheap gear
out there to let you get the job done inexpensively.

For portable operation, 4G LTE cellular hotspots/modems work very well --
as long as location is fixed.  I've tried it mobile ( from New England)
and it is so-so, though we have a lot of mountains in New Hampshire.

Bottom line:  RemoteRig and K3s run very well over pretty low speed
connections.   Just make sure jitter is low and fairly consistent.  Latency
can
be fairly high, but you must adjust settings to compensate on CW.

73, Gerry W1VE


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On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Barry w...@comcast.net wrote:

 A while back we tried Remoterig with a Kenwood radio and the CW generated
 was
 poor on the other end.  This was presumably from dropped packets and or
 latency issues (Comcast on one end and a terrestrial microwave connection
 on
 the other end).  Some dits/dahs were lost and others were prolonged, due to
 the lost stop signal.  My understanding of the remoterig protocol for CW is
 it's not very robust, with no error correction or ACKing.

 We got around the CW problem by using a VNC and the CW is generated at the
 host end within the VNC window, using N1MM, directly keying the radio.

 If we were to use a K3 and K3/remote for the radio, would there be
 potential
 radio control issues due to the flaky internet connection, or is there
 redundancy and/or error correction built into the Elecraft remote protocol?

 Barry W2UP




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Re: [Elecraft] How reliable an internet connection is needed for A K3 remote to work well?

[Gerry Hull]

Barry,

Do a long series of pings (ping address -n 500 will let it run 500 times)

Jitter is the difference between ping times  (100ms ping and 120ms ping is
20mS jitter)

My remaining question is - in the presence of a somewhat flaky Internet
connection, for whatever reason - latency, jitter, etc. - is there any
problem with the K30 control of the K3?  For example, when turning the AF
gain or tuning knob, will they follow well, or will there be dropouts of
radio commands, hinder reliable operation?
​

Yes, everything will go to hell if internet connection is bad... knobs
don't react fast, display does not update fast, etc.
However, don't panic.  Unless the problem persists, it will go away quickly.

Hint: Don't turn knobs like audio or power fast.  Each pulse from the knob
is sent as a UDP packet... If you turn too fast based on the connection
speed, the vlue won't change much.  Turn slowly and it will update
regularly.

I found that with our PR1T connection, screen updates and knob turning
would recover, unless the connection went down for a long time, and I get
that DANG LOUD
SIT tone in the remote.   If I get that, I just cycle the power on the
front panel of the K3/0 mini, and it ususally comes right back.

-Gerry
​

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On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Barry w...@comcast.net wrote:

 Gerry - How does one measure jitter?

 All - We have the CW issues worked out, using a VNC window and having the
 transmitter connected directly to N1mm, rather than trying to send CW iover
 the network.

 My remaining question is - in the presence of a somewhat flaky Internet
 connection, for whatever reason - latency, jitter, etc. - is there any
 problem with the K30 control of the K3?  For example, when turning the AF
 gain or tuning knob, will they follow well, or will there be dropouts of
 radio commands, hinder reliable operation?

 TU,
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Re: [Elecraft] How reliable an internet connection is needed for A K3 remote to work well?

[Gerry Hull]

RemoteRig/RRC uses UDP (Realtime Data Protocol) for Audio, and I'm sure a
lot of other stuff.  This is the best mode for most of what we are doing
with remote ham radio.
Signaling is modified Session Initiation Protocol (SIP), also UDP.

All that you need to know is that it will do fairly well over pretty rotten
internet connections.  Speed itself, as well as bandwidth, are important,
but latency and jitter are what
is going to play havoc with a quality connection.  If you are doing remote
in-country in the US, you are not going to see many issues (unless you are
on a wireless Multipoint-to-point
network or any other network using TDM/time slicing techniques.).

I'm amazed at how fast the Microbit gear recovers after a network loss.
 They have done a good job.

The K3 - RRC combo is awesome for remote!

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On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com wrote:

 On 7/16/2014 12:13 PM, AG0N-3055 wrote:

 I'm not much of a network person, but I believe UDP packets are tossed
 out with no error correction at all (like unproto X25 packet).


 I am a network person.  When you use UDP, it is up to the protocol layer
 above to handle dropped packets.

 For example, a volume knob should send a value, not just +1 or -1, and in
 a remote environment, it'd be good to send a full set of settings
 periodically.

 ... or each UDP command could require an ACK via UDP.

 Or a few dozen other answers.

 For voice, where latency is more important than dropped sound, you usually
 don't try to replace the lost packets.

 73 -- Lynn

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[Elecraft] Elecraft Everywhere at WRTC...

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Folks,

Elecraft was everywhere, and not just with many of the 59 WRTC teams...

We had a blast at the HQ Hotel while the teams were out in the field...  We
ended up having FIVE remote stations in the demo room at WRTC, along with
the WR1TC local station:

PR1T in Brazil, SK9HQ in Sweden, the RemoteHamRadio Blueberry Hill, NY QTH
as W2PV, Mt call running at K2LE/1 Vermont, and N3AD running single-op to
his home QTH.  Tree, N6TR, showed up to operate his Oregon remote, but we
ran out of table space -- so he operated from the IT office (for a total of
six K3 remotes).

All these remotes were all K3/0 minis running with Microbit RRC boxes on
the remote end.

Check out this video from the remote operating position at PR1T (It was
Eric, K3NA, at the WRTC HQ End...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffppq4WOHqY

A great time was had by all!

73,

Gerry, W1VE
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[Elecraft] Looking for a K3 Remote Station in Asia and/or Oceania

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Gang,

I thought it would be interesting to have some Remote stations available
at the WRTC HQ station at WRTC 2014 this year.  This will allow all those
folks
who are coming, but who are not competitors, to take part in the IARU fun.
 It will also provide an additional set of logs for the immediate log check.

Their will be the WR1TC demo station at the HQ, which will be a FB New
England
station.  However, I thought it would be really cool to have some Remote
stations
active at HQ as well.

I started by locating a couple of New England stations that can be operated
remotely.  But, after talking with some friends, I found out their was
interest
from stations around the world.

Right now, I have interest from two Multi-Single stations, where the remote
at WRTC HQ will be one of the operating positions in these stations.  I
have a station in EU, and one in SA.  Of course, would be a total blast to
have a stations from Asia and Oceania represented.

If you have access to, or know someone who has a station in Asia or Oceania
which has a K3 than can be remoted, and would be interested in doing this,
please get in touch with me directly.

All the stations we are going to set up will be using Microbit RemoteRig
RRC units; the  remote station could be a single op, or any type of Multi.
 We can make it work.   We will have plenty of internet bandwidth, prefer
N1MM for logging and will work with you to set things up long before IARU.

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] Computers in the Stone Age

[Gerry Hull]

Definitely OT, but interesting!

No, MS-DOS (Microsoft) did not run on the Apple II.  DOS (Disk Operating
System) did...

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_DOS

to refresh your memory...

I had the Apple 1 (PC Board  keyboard), An Altair 8800 (with a teletype
for I/O), and
a 1st-gen IBM PC when they came out (about $5500 as I recall, with all the
bells and whistles.)

We have come a long way, baby!

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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Dauer, Edward eda...@law.du.edu wrote:

 One of the interesting pieces of that history, from a retail consumer
 user's (layman's) point of view, is that the Apple II (I owned a II+ in
 the late 1970s) used MS-DOS as its operating system before Apple developed
 its own.  As I recall, the OS was not resident in the early hardware - to
 use it you first loaded DOS in through a 5 floppy, then used another 5
 floppy for data.  (My memory is imperfect, but I believe that was
 correct.)  The original IBM PC also had 5 floppy drives.  One was for the
 App (such as WordStar) and the other for the data files.  The 3 disk was
 a much later development, and a great leap forward.  The IBM PC, which I
 bought in 1982 plus or minus a couple of years, cost me $5,000 in the
 dollars of the day.


 The most significant development, which some folks today don't remember or
 never knew, is that e-mail and the Internet began as separate systems.
 E-mail used ordinary phone lines in its earliest days.  I remember well
 sitting in airport boarding lounges with a set of alligator clips and a
 screwdriver which I used to remove the cap from the modular telephone
 jacks so I could dial up other members of our e-mail network.  I don't
 recall the year, but I do remember that when e-mail was merged with the
 Internet the whole world changed.

 The idea of controlling my radio equipment with my computer in the 70s
 never occurred to me . . . .

 Do I have that history right?

 Ted, KN1CBR


 
 Message: 3
 Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 06:39:23 -0500
 From: Jim Rogers jim.w4...@gmail.com
 To: d...@w3fpr.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or
maybe not
 Message-ID: 5385caeb.8020...@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 Actually Don, the Apple II preceded the IBM PC and had a very strong
 following. As the owner of a consulting firm that placed some Apple IIs
 doing some difficult, at that time, interfacing to main frames we
 welcomed the appearance of the IBM PC when it came on the scene. We had
 the second IBM PC in Birmingham and after a couple of days of evaluation
 recompiled our software and the rest was history.
 
 73s Jim, W4ATK
 On 5/27/2014 9:31 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
  And those computers Tom Watson was speaking of took a large controlled
  environment room just for the various pieces.  It was certainly not a
  desktop computer.
  Desktop computers did not come into being until the advent of the IBM
  PC in the 1980s.  I bought my daughter a new IBM PC with 2 floppy
  drives and 64k of ram for her to use in her college classes. It was
  later upgraded with a 5 MB hard drive which replaced one of the floppy
  drives (3.5 inch floppys).
 
  We have come a long way since that time.  That system cost $2500 at
  the time, now I can buy a computer with a LOT more capability for less
  than $300.
 
  73,
  Don W3FPR
 
  On 5/27/2014 9:43 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
  At sometime in the 50's, the President of IBM is alleged to have
  said, The worldwide market for computers is probably about twelve.
  Apparently he didn't know Doug.
 
  73,
 
  Fred K6DGW
  - Northern California Contest Club
  - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
  - www.cqp.org
 
  On 5/27/2014 1:29 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote:
 
  I probably have 15 working computers.
 
 

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[Elecraft] Work us on the way to Dayton and in the Flea -- via Remote (K3R)

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Elecraft fans,

The theme of the Dayton Hamvention this year is Ham Radio of the future.
 Remote operation is one of the new aspects of the hobby that has exploded
in the past year or so -- and it will certainly grow in the future.
Elecraft and Microbit have been doing great things in this regard.

Jim, K1IR and myself will be operate my K3/0 mini via 4G on the drive out
to Dayton,
and from flea market spaces  1322 - 1334 (Home of Ed, K1EP).  As time
permits, we may also be operating from the Crowne Plaza hotel in the
evenings.

Please stop by our flea spot and check it out!

The bonus is that we will be controlling Andy, K2LE's superstation in
Vermont.  So you can get a QSL for Vermont if you need it.  QSLing will be
via eQSL and LOTW.

We'll be using the special event call sign K3R -- K3 Remote

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] Work us on the way to Dayton and in the Flea -- via Remote (K3R)

[Gerry Hull]

I won't, but I'm sure Elecraft will.

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On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:39 AM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote:

 Will you guys be at Seapac?
 --
 Thanks and 73's,
 For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
 www.nk7z.net
 for MixW support see;
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
 for Dopplergram information see:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ CW

[Gerry Hull]

I am accused by some of sending too fast in CW contests; I like fast.  My
typical CQ speed in this years ARRL DX and CQWW contests was in the 35-42
wpm range.   When the stations are loud, and the ops good, I stick with
40-44 WPM, but when the pile thins and there are less callers, I slow it
down.  What I've found is that, in most contests, contrary to what Kevin
was saying, QRQ does not stop people from calling you.  Many, many guys
come back to me on straight keys at 15-20 WPM but don't  ask for QRS or
fills -- most contest exchanges are pretty darn easy.  If the callers stop
calling, I often QRS to see if there are some people waiting to call but
can't copy.  I find few.   I also find that QSO Rate is directly affected
by speed.  For me, the true sweet spot is in the 32-38 wpm range.  Maybe a
bit slower in Sweepstakes.  I don't consider these speeds showing off.
(I also hate big swings in speed in the exchange!)

I was blessed when I was a teenager -- some 35 years ago -- to ragchew with
a bunch of friends on 40m who were into QRQ with keyboards.  Gerry can you
copy?  Yes?  They would increase speed until I was barely able to copy.  So
-- now general conversation at 50wpm is OK in my head.   Ham-type QSOs I
can go much faster -- in the 60s probably.Many years of traffic
handling helped as well.   Contest QSOs are very predictable -- so they are
so easy to copy.

One other note on speed... I operated W1AW/! from Massachusetts the first
day it was on... It was the first time that state was on 20m CW with the
'AW/1 call.  The pile was HUGE, about 2.5 kHz wide.   Everyone was loud and
the ops were great.  So, I cranked the speed up to 48 wpm.  It was GREAT!
 No one left the pile (how hard is 5NN MA?)  I had no QRS requests.

Since this is the K3 reflector, I'll say I use the K3 in QSK mode for all
my CW contesting -- I love it.  Very smooth.  The only issue I had this
year was so much loud backscatter, especially on 20 and 10m.  The echoes
were so loud that it would really confuse if trying to send from the paddle
(which I rarely do!)  Never an issue with the K3 driving an Alpha 87A in
QSK.  Love it!

73, Gerry W1VE (AK4L back in the teenage years)





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On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Kevin Stover
kevin.sto...@mediacombb.netwrote:

 Excellent post.

 I learned more than ten years ago from a group of guys in the Black Hills
 that slowing down to about 22-25 wpm when running gets more answers than
 showing off and cranking the keyer up to 35+.
 These guys can all do 50+ head copy but slow it down intentionally to
 attract more contacts.
 It works. For about 6 years in a row they were one of the top ten 1A
 stations during field day.
 Maybe if the big contest guns did the same we wouldn't have the visceral
 anti-contest attitudes displayed, and get more people involved.


 On 4/29/2014 9:09 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

 INT QRQ [also QRQ?]: Shall I send faster?
 QRQ nn: Send faster, nn WPM

 We hams nounify and verbify International Q-Signals all the time, and QRQ
 in casual conversation means someone who sends and receives Morse at rates
 generally higher than the normal proletariat on the CW bands and in
 contests ... which tend to be higher than normal conversation, not a whole
 lot to say and often it's predictable. :-)

 The alleged Morse receiving record is held by Ted McElroy from sometime
 in the first half of the 20th century ... around 75 WPM on text taken from
 the newspaper.  I do hear about those over 100 [units not always
 specified], I really don't know how to interpret that.

 I first met Joe, now N8EA, at Keesler AFB in Biloxi MS when we were both
 very much younger, I was 22 and he might have still been in his very late
 teens, or maybe 20.  Joe could head copy 50+ WPM.  I think he still can.
  I'd say he could paddle it too except I could *not* copy 50 WPM so how
 would I know when he did send?

 QRQ [as a noun meaning very fast CW] is a personal thing.  It depends
 on your Morse experience, how old you are, and other factors.  Receiving
 QRQ limit for me is around 40 WPM, but I doubt I'd try and engage D4C in a
 debate at 40 wpm however.  My limit with a paddle has declined to around
 25, maybe 28 on a good day, it's been inversely proportional to the number
 of accumulated birthdays.  For a CW newbie, 20 WPM character speed and 12
 WPM net speed could be QRQ ... a struggle.

 My K3 has a QRQ mode [unused by me] that improves the keying and QSK at
 very high speeds, most of which I think come from keyboards these days.  I
 hope we don't get back into the nonsense of Extra, Extra Lite, and No Code
 Extras.  You take the test on the day you take the test.  It is what it is
 right then.  You pass, you get your license and it's as good as mine from

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft UPS deliveries

[Gerry Hull]

Slava,

Yes, I was frustrated by how slow UPS ground was getting my K3/0 Mini!  But
I have it now, and it works great, and the frustration is gone.
I also have Amazon Prime, and two day is not always two day.  When it's
not, their is no recourse.  Also, if you pay extra $3.99 or whatever for
Amazon 1-day, and they don't deliver, there is no refund.

I get mad because I'm rural, and the local UPS guy lives close to me -- so,
UPS always says my shipment has been delayed by weather, and the packages
end up coming 8 or 9pm at night --- because the driver wants to deliver
them on the way home.

USPS Priority Small, Medium or Large flat-rate shipping is the best deal in
the country for 2-3 day shipping.  I sent my K3 back for repair in a large
flat-rate box.   No problems.   Also, if you have an ebay account, you can
buy and print USPS labels for 20% off.

73, Gerry W1VE

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On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.comwrote:

 I guess i'm just spoiled by Amazon Prime and their 2-day no matter what
 delivery.
 Sometimes, a lot of times, i actually get it in one day, depending on
 where the item is geographically.
 Oh well...
 This just means i'll have one less distraction when putting up my new Hex
 Beam this weekend.

 Slava B
 W2RMS

 On Apr 23, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Larry Lopez lawlop...@gmail.com wrote:

  USPS ground is 5 days, not 5 business days.
  USPS ground moves on the weekends.
  UPS ground does not move on the weekends.
 
  UPS drop off at Staples at 5:30PM Friday
  doesn't get picked up until 5PM Monday
 
  This isn't a criticism of anyone.
  It's an explanation of what has been observed.
 
  I look at it as allowing the transceiver
  a short vacation before going to work.
 
  MontyS [via Elecraft] wrote:
  5 business days - 7 calendar days, is nominal for coast-to-coast UPS
  ground.
  Fedex the same, although they deliver Saturdays (but not Mondays).
  Not much
  Elecraft can do besides offer options.
 
  I usually use Priority Mail if available - 2 day delivery usually.
  Monty K2DLJ
 
  Hi everyone!
  Sorry if i'm venting, but how come even the tiniest packages from
  Elecraft
  take full 7 days to arrive via UPS Ground?
  1 pound package via UPS Ground, for almost $17 shouldn't take this
  long,
  should it?
  I understand this isn't Amazon Prime, but come on, 7 days?
 
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[Elecraft] Loving the K3/0 Mini, but some questions...

[Gerry Hull]

Hi All,

I received my K3/0 Mini Thursday night.  I had it up and running very
quickly.
Of course, I love it!

Just a few questions for Elecraft or anyone else who is using one:

1 - What is the RJ connector on the bottom edge for?  I don't see it
documented in the manual.

2 - Are the left-side 3.5mm and 8-pin Mic connectors enabled by default?

3 - The sidetone on CW is generated by the RRC unit, so it might be a
question for them -- is there a way to adjust the pitch?  Mine is at about
750 Hz, way too high for me.

For those of you who will use the K3/0 mini with a headset -- use the
front-pane phones jack!  The speaker 3.5mm mini on the left side is very
hot and will blow your ears off if you have volume too high.

Another great job guys!

73,

Gerry Hull, W1VE   | Nelson, NH USA | +1-617-CW-SPARK
AKA: VE1RM | VY2CDX | VO1CDX | 6Y6C | 8P9RM
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Re: [Elecraft] David Cole...756ProIII vs K3

[Gerry Hull]

​My history with amateur radio is that I typically rent gear -- what I
mean is I purchase gear new, use it for one or two years, and sell it.
 That way, I get to experience the latest gear without busting the bank
completely.
That has changed since I got my K3.

I'm a contester, CW mostly.   Typically in multi-op stations with big
antennas, amps etc.  So bone-crushing to eme-level signals are the norm.  I
agree with many here that Sherwood has captured a  lot of good data about
receiver performance.  If you want to be a competitive contester or DXer,
your receiver performance is the #1 issue.  Taking a listen doing a couple
of comparisons does not tell a story.  Make sure you understand the tests
that are being described.

I had the FT1KMP and MK5 for a while.   These were the standard for a long
time.  However, the out-of-band, key-click and phase noise issues are
pretty bad.  As was talked about here, the Icom ProII/ III are really good
receivers, but not with out-of-passband spurious products.  Like what was
mentioned by another poster, you never feel you are by yourself with a Pro
III in a contest -- always all kinds of pops an squeaks from out of band
signals.

I think the ergonomic differences between Icom an Elecraft are really not
that great.  They both use single-button overloaded functionality (tap,
single push, push and hold) to provide various functions.  Rather than wrap
things
into the display (limited space), careful labeling on the panel make if
(fairly clear) what is going on.  The comments I get from many older
friends is they don't like this mode of operation.  One friend went out and
bought the 5000 because he did not like the K3 human interface.  Well, he
is selling the 5000.  The K3 receiver, in his opinion, destroys the Yaesu. ​

The reason I'm not going to just rent my K3 -- it will be my radio for
the foreseeable future -- goes far beyond the technical performance of the
radio.   It's the intangibles.   The Elecraft team are operators,  They get
it.  They understand who we are and what we want.  They react to our input.
 Have you ever seen a the KIY guys ever react to what the market wants, in
a timely manner?  I don't think so.

I am setting up Remote with some friends -- we had some really strange
issues.  Brandon from Elecraft got on Skype with me from his home, on a
Saturday, to help me diagnose an issue.  What company does that?

I know I'm preaching to the choir on this reflector.  However, when talking
about radios, you cannot leave these details out.  It's what sets Elecraft
in a completely different league from the competition.

73,  Gerry

Gerry Hull, W1VE   | Nelson, NH USA | +1-617-CW-SPARK
AKA: VE1RM | VY2CDX | VO1CDX | 6Y6C | 8P9RM
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On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II 
b...@wjschmidt.com wrote:

 There are additional aspects of these comparisons that are not often
 discussed.

 The ergonomics of the two radios are vastly different... and rightly so
 given their history.  The Icom has had many more generations of radios to
 improve the look, feel and operation of the radio.  After owning and
 operating both, I find that both have adequate controls places
 appropriately... both radios could improve the menus (cryptic at times).

 The other aspect, which is sort of an elephant in the room is the repair
 histories and the way repairs are handled by the respective companies.
  I've never had a repair issue with my PRO III, although I have sent my
 7800's back for service twice.  It this case the radios sat in a queue at
 ICOM repair depot waiting for their turn to get fixed.  Several weeks later
 the radios arrived without any warning, to sit out on my doorstep awaiting
 my arrival home.  In contrast, I've had three issues with my K3... all
 three were diagnosed over the phone with tech support and parts shipped to
 me for install and immediate correction of the issues.  While the K3 record
 on failures seems a bit higher than the Icom, the relative ease of
 troubleshooting and repair for a person like me (will full lab/ repair
 capabilities) is a wonder.

 Neither of these things should be missed when contemplating a new radio.


 Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ/ PJ4HZ/ VP5HZ

 Owner - Operator
 Big Signal Ranch
 Staunton, Illinois

 email:  b...@wjschmidt.com



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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product: K3/0-Mini Remote Front Panel

[Gerry Hull]

WooHoo! Order placed.  Can't wait for it to come!


Gerry Hull, W1VE   | Nelson, NH USA | +1-617-CW-SPARK
AKA: VE1RM | VY2CDX | VO1CDX | 6Y6C | 8P9RM
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft 
e...@elecraft.com wrote:

 We have updated the K3Remote page with the K3/0-mini. See:
 http://www.elecraft.com/K3-Remote/k3_remote.htm

 We are also adding more K3/0-Mini info to that page and it will be further
 updated in the next 15-30 minutes.

 The ordering information is located in the K3Remote and K3/0 section of
 our order page. See:
 http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#k3remote

 73,
 Eric
 elecraft.com
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  On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:
 
  As you may already know, any K3 can control another one at a remote
 location. This allows you to have the experience of operating the radio,
 while taking advantage of great station locations with larger antenna
 arrays and other features.
 
  Many K3 users operate this way exclusively, which is why we offer a
 cost-reduced K3, the K3/0. The K3/0 is the same size as the K3, but with
 all of the RF modules removed.
 
  Now you have another choice: the K3/0-Mini. The Mini consists of a K3
 front panel, only, so it's highly portable. When combined with a RemoteRig
 interface, the K3/0-Mini becomes a virtual K3 station you can take
 anywhere. The mini is perfect for home and travel use due to its small
 size. It fully duplicates all K3 controls, displays and menus for a
 realistic remote K3 experience.
 
  The Mini has other features not found on the K3/0, including:
 
  * Simplified RemoteRig Interfacing
 
   Use a single RemoteRig interface cable for connecting the RemoteRig
   to your K3/0 Mini. This cable contains all IO connections from the
   RemoteRig (SP, MIC, PTT, PAD, KEY, RXd, TXd).
 
  * More Connectors
 
   Paddle, PTT and KEY inputs are now available both on the K3/0 Mini and
 RemoteRig.
   3.5-mm audio connections on the side connect to your headset without
 the use of adapters.
 
  * Built-in Stereo Speakers­­­
 
   A pair of internal speakers powered by their own audio amplifier for
 stereo (main/sub RX) audio.
 
  * USB Port for firmware loading and/or software-based remote-control
 solutions
 
  For further information, see:
 
   http://www.elecraft.com/K3-Remote/k3_remote.htm
 
  The price of the K3/0-mini is $699.95, with first shipments in about 3
 weeks.
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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini Soon?

[Gerry Hull]

I'm hoping the sheet metal issues have been cleared up regarding the K3/0
mini...

Any news on ship date?

73,

-- 
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AKA: VE1RM | VY2CDX | VO1CDX | 6Y6C | 8P9RM
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