Re: [Elecraft] Selling my K2.
Hi Fred, Sorry to hear about the bad experience on that transaction. I have had one like that as well. Same kind of deal as yours. Not all items on ebay are bad - the majority are legitimate and as described. It has not at all been my experience that ...usually there is a problem with them or they wouldn't be there. Yes, sometimes that is the case, of course. I have purchased numerous radios on ebay and all were exactly as described. Like you said, don't do the money order thing. Credit card via PayPal. Great advice! I use that same method and steer clear of items where they want a money order or there are other fishy signs. Regardless, one must carefully read the description, study the pictures, look at the feedback, and then not let desire for an item cloud judgement. Of course, buying from a seller that is well known, or known to you, or frequents reflectors of the character of this one, is certainly the best way, when it is an option. I'm glad that Gil notified us of his ebay listing. Like Ken, I might have missed it otherwise. 73 JP WF4Z On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Fred Smith m...@mo-net.com wrote: I make it a point of never buying any radios on eBay usually there is a problem with them or they wouldn't be there. If the items are listed on the ham related forums you can most of the time (or I do anyway) feel more confident that they are in the condition listed. In no way have I ever felt that way about used items bought off of eBay it is like hamfest gear you can't test be ready to do work on it. So far I have only been burnt one time on a item I bought on QRZ am Yaesu VL-1000 amp. It was bought from a ham in AZ. who said he had just had it into Yaesu to be checked out ( that turned out to be a lie) bought the amp. He insisted on Money Orders I wanted to use Pay Pal and I pay the fee he wouldn't first mistake. I paid him for the amp and shipping received it 10 days later opened it and it was DOA. Called him and he wasn't very happy to hear about, I asked him if he checked it out after Yaesu sent it to him he didn't he said. Finally told me to ship the amp back to him I did so. In the mean time I called Yaesu about the repairs that were done to the amp they checked and all that was done was replace the display and both covers top/sides and bottom nothing else checked. 2 weeks later he called me mad because a very small piece of scotch tape where it overlapped the clear plastic on the amp had gotten on the top of the amp. I told him I was sorry but not a problem for sure nothing was harmed for sure. He sent a photo of the tape where he had left it on the amp when he removed the plastic, the tape had been cut on both sides to leave about 1/2 on it. He kept $250 of my money because he said that the cover would have to be replaced and gave me no options the shipping/insurance for the 2 box's 2 ways was just over $400 so that lesion cost me $650. Moral of the story NEVER, NEVER use a Money Order/Cash same in the mail always use Pay Pal tied to a Credit Card only not your checking account then you have recourse. Or the best way buy from someone you know or someone on this reflector I have bought numerous items here and all great people. 73, Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken G Kopp Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:23 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Selling my K2. It's a good idea ... Makes more aware of the sale ... I've lready looked at it, even though I'm not an E-Bay regular and wouldn't have known about it except for the posting. 73! K0PP On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Fred Smith m...@mo-net.com wrote: If your selling it on FleaBAY why post it here? Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 amplified mobile speaker
Hi Gary, The Chill Pill speakers are one handy choice for portable use with the KX3. They are very small and light, convenient to pack, self powered, and sound very good. Currently, they are shown at $33.50, so are not the cheapest, though they are very good quality. http://www.amazon.com/Chill-Mobile-Speakers-Players-Laptops/dp/B001K33QSO/ref=wl_it_dp_o_nS_nC?ie=UTF8colid=3SFWEMAP46M8Gcoliid=I1NAGQ9JJG3H6Y Thye also make a small microphone that might be suitable for KX3 HT portable operation. http://www.amazon.com/Chill-Microphone-Classic-Touch-iPhone/dp/B0026NNGZK/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8colid=3SFWEMAP46M8Gcoliid=IZO23XEUKMOGG YMMV 73 JP WF4Z On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Gary Gregory vk1zzg...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone use an external amplified speaker in a mobile installation with the KX3? A search so far has found BHI speakers but these are DSP speakers which I don't require. 73 Gary -- *Gary - VK1ZZ Motorhome Portable The Shack* *Elecraft K3 P3 Panadapter KPA500FT KAT500FT** KX3-K * __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] XP
Windows 7 SP1 will have full support expire on January 12, 2015 and extended support expire on January 14, 2020. (Windows XP SP3 full support is expired and it is in extended support until April 8, 2014.) HOWEVER: Because Win 7 is still being sold, and because there may be additional Service Packs in the future (SP2, etc.), the actual date for the last version of Win 7 is yet to be determined and MIGHT be later. Given the quick introduction of Win 8, who knows beyond the dates already announced. For details, see: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/lifecycle A PC World article on the same topic: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2010820/how-long-will-microsoft-support-windows-7.html Before you complain and run off to Apple, they have somewhat similar policies. (Certainly not identical, of course.) Each operating system and vendor has its merits - and its issues. YMMV so chose what is best for you, and each of us will do the same. Regardless, above are the Microsoft dates. 73 JP WF4Z On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Sandy ebj...@charter.net wrote: How long will it be before Microsoft ditches Windows 7 You can probably answer your own question by looking at the life of XP. There have been 3 generations of Windows since XP, which was last produced in late 2006. If the two generations between XP and Win 8 are each supported for 6 years after last production date, you will have a dozen years to bring your software, hardware, and other things up to date. Presumably by 2024 there will be other problems to worry about. Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 KXBC3 and NiZN batteries
I have two 4S1P sets of the battery packs from epbuddy.com for use with my KX3. Initial testing and use suggests they seem to have full rated capacity and work well. JP WF4Z On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Chip Stratton c...@strattonfamily.uswrote: Just a battery update: I got the A123 26650 2400 mAh cells from Hobbyking and they are indeed good quality new cells that test out at better than rated capacity at a 3 amp discharge rate. These will make excellent long life and safe battery packs. Ive recently been made aware of another vendor who sells ready-made 4s 26650 packs for about $50 - epbuddy.com. They claim to use genuine A123 cells but I don't have personal experience with them. If true they would be a real bargain at about half what Buddipole charges. Chip AE5KA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX-3 output on 2 meters
Hello Bob, The KX3-2M 2 meter module will be low power.Wayne mentioned the anticipated output power as being between 3 and 5 watts in a post last November. I don't know if that is still the target. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KX3/message/930 The KXPA100 amplifier will cover HF and 6 meters only. http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/kx3.htm Thanks, JP 73 de WF4Z On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Linda and Bob dlrwi...@verizon.net wrote: Does anyone know the output of the KX-3 on 2 meters when the 2 meter option becomes available? Will the 100 watt amp option with internal antenna tuner work on 2 meters as well as the HF bands and 6 meters? What will the output power be on 2 meters using the optional KX-3 100 watt amp (50 watts, 100 watts)? Bob Wilderman, K3SRO dlrwi...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility and iPad
Hi Keith, Your installation sounds like a great project. It will be fun to see pictures and descriptions of the finished product! I plan to do KX3 mobile when the 100W amp is available. What antenna and tuning device/procedure are you planning to use? (Right now I have a Yaesu FT-857D with the ATAS-120A antenna, so tuning the antenna is a simple one button operation. Of course, the radio has nowhere near the dynamic range and capability of the KX3! Thus the planned change.) The iSDR app does not do any radio control, of course, just listens to the IQ and provides a panadapter/waterfall and second receiver. I use the Griffin iMic with my iPad2. I find that I prefer to set the iSDR center frequency to 0.000 so that I don't have to update it each time as I tune the KX3 around. Tuning on the iSDR then, shows the delta. (Maybe I'm missing something here... any tips are appreciated!) For radio control and logging, I use HamLog by Nick N3WG. The KX3 is connected to his PigTail Wifi hotspot via an Elecraft serial cable. The iPad is then connected to the PigTail via WiFi. HamLog reads frequency, mode, and S-meter from the radio, along with providing direct two way control/communication of most of the radio's functions. One of the control display modes uses a small control panel window, while the other mode presents a pictorial representation of the radio itself so all the controls are in familiar locations. Nick has a number of interesting apps and projects. Check them out here: http://pignology.net/ The only downside on iOS is that we can only see one app on the screen at one time since iOS doesn't do split screen. Instead, we have to hop back and forth between the apps. At a recent event for the Atlanta Radio Club, I borrowed another iPad and we had iSDR on one and HamLog on the other at the same time. Certainly not backpack portable, and not really useful for mobile, but for picnic table portable or base station installation it was fun to look at and use! Good luck with your project! Thanks, JP 73 de WF4Z On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Keith Heimbold ag...@hotmail.com wrote: We are about halfway through my install of the KX3 in my 97 Silverado and it is going well so far. We probably have another two days (16-20 hours) plus worth of work to go before we are done with the install. We installed the Rammount for the iPad and the KX3 and it looks epic. The amps are mounted and the electrical and antenna installation is in progress. Still need to pull wire from engine and new breaker and solenoid to bed and husky toolbox to the deep cycle Optima battery and the amplifiers. The Hi Q 4/80 RT is still in transit so that install will wait until next week. In terms of control theough the ipad I am planning to use the iSDR software with a simple logging program (MacLogger possibly) and upload later when at my home QTH. I was doing research on IPad ham apps and am looking for other control software options. Even minimalistic control software besides iSDR. I was also curious if the KX3 utility software and terminal will work on the iPad. Also any perspective on new software developments for the iPad and ham radio software especially the KX3 would be super appreciated. Keith AG6AZ Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Small Screen for the QRP Gang
Hello All, Before running out and buying hardware, check the web site for the iSDR application. Look in the forums and check the discussion topics about connecting various devices for stereo input. Eric, many others, and I use the Griffin iMic with the Apple USB adapter on iPad 2 units. However, iPhone 4S will not work with that setup. Instead I use a Sonoma Wire Works GuitarJack device on the iPhone 4S. All the latest info and links can be found on the iSDR web site: http://digitalconfections.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=46Itemid=54 Thanks, JP 73 de WF4Z On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Bill K9YEQ k9...@live.com wrote: Let me also inquire, I am getting the Touch 4G which is same requirement as the iPhone current model and need to know what dongle to get to interface. 73, Bill K9YEQ KX3 Field Test #12 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Oliver Johns Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 4:38 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Small Screen for the QRP Gang Eric, From the Apple web site and other places, it looks like the camera adapter is not officially supported on the iPhone. So the setup you describe might not work on the iPhone, even the current 4S model. It seems to be iPad only. Have you tried it with an iPhone? 73, Oliver W6ODJ On 11 Aug 2012, at 08:00, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft e...@elecraft.com wrote: To clarify, The iMic is a Stereo input to USB adapter. It plugs into the Apple camera adapter kit usb slot. The camera adapter gives the iPad or iPhone a USB slot. the camera adapter is quite cheap and available at Best Buy etc. Eric www.elecraft.com _..._ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] NR setting
Hello Pierre, If I recall correctly, the NR function was implemented in a later version of the firmware. The user manual errata document from April noted some features that weren't yet implemented. However, I think you will find NR works now in the current firmware version. Upgrading is very quick and easy. Also, documents and firmware revision notes are available on the Elecraft web site. If I am incorrect in any of the above, or if you have additional problems or questions, I'm sure other folks here will get you going! Thanks, JP 73 de WF4Z On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Pierre ve2...@videotron.ca wrote: .. On page 13 of the KX3 manual, we can read this: Holding NR turns on noise reduction and displays its setting, which can be adjusted using the knob above the switch. Tap any switch to exit the setting display. I have installed the NR but cannot adjust its setting using the control knob above the switch. Am I missing something? Thanks de VE2PID KX3 # 190 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-NR-setting-tp7560275.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Fwd: Request to join KX3 denied
Hello Pete, Yes, this is puzzling. Send an email to kx3-ow...@yahoogroups.com with your call sign and request to join and tell him what happened. That should clear things up. Good luck! Thanks, JP 73 de WF4Z On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR n...@contesting.comwrote: This puzzles me - I asked to join this group in order to see the photos that had been linked to from a message on this reflector, and yet the moderator of the KX3 Yahoo group has excluded me. What gives? Assuming the moderator reads this reflector, would he or she please respond to me off the reflector. Thanks! Original Message Subject:Request to join KX3 denied Date: 23 Jul 2012 14:37:14 - From: Yahoo! Groups Notification not...@yahoogroups.com To: n...@comcast.net Hello, Your request to join the KX3 group was not approved. The moderator of each Yahoo! group chooses whether to restrict membership in the group. Moderators who choose to restrict membership also choose whom to admit. Please note that this decision is final and that Yahoo! Groups does not control group membership. You may find other groups to join by searching or browsing the Groups directory: http://groups.yahoo.com If you would like to create your own group, please visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/start Thank you for choosing Yahoo! Groups. Regards, Yahoo! Groups Customer Care Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Roofing filters
Hello Pierre, It is most likely not a roofing filter issue. Rather it is probably a local oscillator leakage issue. Set the RX ISO menu item to ON and I suspect the problem will significantly diminish, if not disappear. See page 38 of the current KX3 owner's manual (Rev B4) for this menu item and for a discussion of when it may be helpful. Be sure to first refer to the Tech Mode section on page 35 to unlock this menu item. 73 de JP WF4Z On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Pierre ve2...@videotron.ca wrote: Hello to all. Maybe that I don't understand the real utility of the roofing filter but I observed this. Last saturday, we were on a SOTA summit using two KX3s about 40 feet appart transmitting CW at 5 W. And even with the roofing filters on, we heard each other's sending as a diffuse noise. I know that changion RX shift to 8 disable the roofing filters, but we were not using that shift. So, am I missing something about the use of these filters? Are they designed for operations with operators near each other like SOTA activation on a crowded summit ? 73, de VE2PID KX3 S/N 190 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: Displaying Menu Help Text
It is found in the KX3 user manual on page 35 in the second paragraph. It is under the Menu Help Information heading. I keep finding useful little nuggets just by slowly going through the manual with the radio at hand. Wayne and team put a lot of good informaiton in the manual - and a lot of good features in the radio. Amazing! Wayne's operating tips are still very helpful since they highlight things that we might have overlooked in the manual or remind us of things we had previously seen and since forgotten. 72/73 de JP WF4Z On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Monty Shultes mon...@mindspring.comwrote: This is neat and helpful. Thank you, Wayne. Where was this hiding?? Monty K2DLJ On Jul 12, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Both the K3 and KX3 provide help text for all menu entries. The owner's manual provides a lot more information, of course, but the built-in info display covers the basics, and that may be all you need. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware final?
Amen, Guy! I was shocked to receive an email from Wayne on a... Sunday... on Mother's Day no less! Well, it was late afternoon, so I guess it was OK. ;-) Another one came in very late at night. I suppose you can tell I was a new customer at the time (KX3 #0130) and didn't know any better than to not be surprised. Now I keep the Kool-Aid pitcher close at hand. You bums got me hooked. On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.netwrote: That's right. My CWT has gotten a little spastic since 4.51. Saw that right away with 4.51 in pre-beta. But I'm not going to monkey with the settings any more until Wayne publishes the fix. 4.51 was an absolutely splendid overhaul of AGC that fixed stuff that no one could correlate with anything, and added marvelous clarity to multiple signals with a lot of AGC action. Seems that in DSP log functions that there was a least significant digit noise any time AGC was active. So now anything that was internally calibrated or tuned to the specific behavior of the old AGC now has lost the programmed fit that made the function sharp. The AGC had its shoe size change and now some of the old function boots don't fit so good any more. Pretty sure they have had the same list of loose boot functions since pre-beta testing. They need time to work on them, and it's been vacation time. I'll live with the spastic CWT until they get it fixed. The move to 4.51 was because a lot of people wanted what was being talked about by beta and pre-beta users of 4.51, but didn't want it unless it was production. Folks who really need the text decoder for CW should use some of the later PC programs which are able to do stable copy down into the noise and keep a page of text in front of you. In the last few years code copying software has crossed a threshold into a realm of performance that challenges the best human copy. That kind of software can never fit into the tight processing budget of a specialty processor in a portable HF rig. At least not with anything currently under manufacture at less than premium military prices. But Wayne will get to it. He has a list. Elecraft has a fix ratio on reported problems that is several orders of magnitude beyond any other manufacturer of ham radio equipment. Without a doubt, the relatively tiny Elecraft is on a par with companies famous in the commercial world for customer responsiveness, like SAS Institute, the largest privately held software company in the world with over 10,000 employees. SAS does it by spending very serious big-time budget bucks on a huge technical support department where a lot of the staff have the same kind of high end educational and experience backgrounds as the RD folks who design the things. Many of the design changes COME FROM tech support at SAS, sometimes with the coding changes, based on an accumulation of customer needs gleaned out of the tech support calls. I don't know how Wayne, Eric and company do it. My gut guess of whether a company the size of Elecraft doing a seriously technical product can do Elecraft style support, upgrades and improvements, frankly, is that they CAN'T do it. And that is STILL my best guess, that a company Elecraft's size just DOES NOT have the critical mass to pull it off . They really don't, not if they go home after 8 hours and get on with a private life. Takes people who would rather go to work than a ball game, and wake up in the middle of the night with a new idea or a solution to a problem. Or read the reflector with their blackberry sitting on the throne on vacation, and in the middle of the night. You folks be good to these guys and treat them with some deferential respect. They surely have earned it. Back to the main topic Wayne is working on it. Wayne is working on it. Wayne is working on it. Wayne is working on it. Oh, did you hear? Wayne is working on it. 73, Guy. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: With 4.51, the operation of CWT seems to have changed [possibly in my mind and not in the radio :-)] The indicator follows band noise somewhat erratically regardless of where I put the CWT threshold which I think is the same as the CW decode threshold. On a signal, it will center and follow the signal as I tune. I used to have it set so only strong noise pulses would make it appear until I was on a signal. I don't know if it is related to the CW decode or not, but I'm wondering if it is just me. I don't use the CW decode feature. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org On 7/11/2012 8:48 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: CW decode will be improved in the next release of K3 firmware. Meanwhile, try using a lower AGC threshold and a narrow filter bandwidth. 73, Wayne N6KR
Re: [Elecraft] LiFePO4 battery packs
According to the product descriptions, both of these battery packs have a balancing board built into them. The documentation for the board shows that the board has independent connections to each cell. It protects each cell from over charge, over discharge, high current discharge, and short circuit. Thus, you gain the benefit of balance charging while only having to purchase a lower cost charger, such as the ones suggested for these packs on their product pages. The larger of these two packs appears to be very cost effective and a great solution for external power for a KX3, K2/10, K3/10 or other QRP rig. A123 branded cells are more expensive, although EP Buddy has them at a very favorable price. Their packs do not have internal circuitry, however, requiring purchase of a balancing charger if you want to recharge at higher rates. See recent KX3 batteries thread on this reflector for discussion. 72/73 de JP WF4Z On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: On 7/6/2012 7:06 PM, Steve Jackson wrote: So, what is the opinion of the learned and experienced regarding these battery packs? Well, there's the obvious ... 600mAh vs 3,000mAh of course. The LiFePO4 batteries have a very good capacity to weight ratio, and they are safe, you can carry or pack them onto airplanes. Neither one of them allow you to balance the cells however, something that should be done at least periodically. Assuming it is for your K2, you'd probably find that 600mAh was a little small. My K2 draws about 280mA on receive, and at 5W, around 1.5A key down. I use a 4Ah 4S1P LiFePO4 pack that I can balance the cells on charge and it lasts about as long as I want to be off in the field somewhere. Li-Poly batteries have a higher capacity to weight ratio which is why they are used by RC model folks. I have one that's about the size of a small matchbox, weighs an ounce or so, and is rated at 800mAh, 11.7V. I use it on my KX1. Li-Poly is somewhat unstable under some circumstances and I've had one catch fire while I was using it. Mine is on a short pigtail outside of the rig. What's the better deal? Two of the former? Anything awful about these packs? Caveats in their use, other than the obvious? A123 cells are probably the highest quality, Buddipole sells them, they are a bit pricey however. Whatever you choose, be sure to fuse the cable to the rig. These chemistries can deliver anywhere from 10C to 15C or more if shorted. For mine, that could be more than 60A. Beware, the 12V and RF connectors on the RF board are the same and the cables from the KAT2 will interchange quite easily. I speak from experience and now have a jumpered trace on the board that decided to be a fuse. :-( 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 firmware 1.06 freg drift
The asterisks are new. I don't remember which version (after 0.99 up through 1.06) had that change. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:54 PM, va3...@gmail.com wrote: I downloaded the latest and greatest firmware and noticed something On the 40m band, while monitoring one of the 'original 13 colonies special event station'. The unit freq was drifting (upwards) big time. Somethings by .2 units within about 1.5 seconds. And even when I returned to the frequency it would drift again. While I did not have a lot of time to further test. The issue was not apparent on the 20m band. I have had this issue previously, but not to this level. Also a small observation. Now when the unit is shut down, on the VFO B, a series of * appear. This has not been observered before Robert a 'kosher' ham Sent from my BlackBerry device __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 interal battery charger
The balance charging operation requires access to each cell and requires a smart charger that is appropriately programmed for the specific chemistry and for the balance operation. The idea is to be sure that each cell is properly and fully charged without overcharging or damaging any of the other cells in the pack. This is quite common with the all the various lithium chemistries, and when using NiCd or NiMh smart chargers that charge each cell independently. Most of the inexpensive consumer NiCd and/or NiMh chargers do not treat each cell independently. Only the more expensive models include the test/refresh modes. Although NiCd and NiMh cells are often overcharged by many slow chargers, apparently that is not the best practice when performed on a regular basis. Thus, the smart chargers. If I am understanding correctly, a PbAcid (e.g. SLA) equalize charge operation does not have access to each cell and instead is an operation that uses a carefully controlled overcharge function, within the safe operating envelope of the battery, to bring up the lagging cells without damaging the stronger cells. It sounds like equalize and balance are two different operations, intended for different cell chemistry and charging styles. Starting with a fresh set of Eneloop (white label 1,900 mAh or black XX label 2,500 mAh) or other brand of pre-charged or low self-discharge (LSD) NiMh batteries that have had at least one test/refresh cycle performed, the need for removing the batteries from the KX3 for a test/refresh cycle should be VERY infrequent as long as they are not abused significantly. As Jim mentioned, hopefully this won't be too often. Who knows, even with heavy use, maybe the batteries won't need to be removed for over a year - or two. Yes, Greg, I plan to do things exactly as you stated: check after a few months, but then pretty much leave them alone in the radio for a long while as I see how things work out. I will be interested to hear from folks here on the reflector as experience is gained. With the traditional non-LSD high capacity NiMh batteries, the need for test/refresh may be a bit more frequent. For example, the Energizer 2600 mAh (?) AA cells are notorious for extremely rapid self-discharge and may need a bit more care and feeding. 72/73 de JP WF4Z On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Greg Troxel g...@work.lexort.com wrote: In balance vs equalize, I also hear about equalization charge to 12V SLA batteries without access to individual cells. PbAcid cells have a higher charge/discharge marginal ratio as they get full, so a mild overcharge should tend to cause all cells to be fully charged. NiMH is almost certainly similar, especially during low-rate overcharge as is typical, so I'd expect that all cells end up full. To understand the KXBC3 behavior, it seems that one should use a Maha C9000 or equivalent to measure/record the capacity (refresh/analyze) of all the cells, and then put then in the KX3 and use them for a while, and then when the KX3 says they are charged pull them and do a discharge measurement followed by a refresh/analyze. I'll report back later :-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 interal battery charger
Thanks for that explanation, Ed. I have limited experience with the lead acid battery systems, so I wasn't sure. On those rare occasions when you do use internal batteries, remember the alkalines limit you to 3W maximum and even then will have limited life. Based on your anticipated usage plan, that may be enough. Be sure to remove them right after your trip since they often leak. The Energizer Ultimate Lithium, though much more expensive, will allow a bit higher output if you wish, and will last a lot longer. Again, the best choice depends upon the individual need. A few folks have talked about the possibility of replacing the AA cell holders and rigging their own internal battery pack with a higher density power source. Given the limited space, it will be interesting to see what creative solutions are found to provide internal power... and if any provision is or can be made to recharge the pack without opening the radio. We shall see! 72/73 de JP WF4Z On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote: JP WF4Z wrote: =snip If I am understanding correctly, a PbAcid (e.g. SLA) equalize charge operation does not have access to each cell and instead is an operation that uses a carefully controlled overcharge function, within the safe operating envelope of the battery, to bring up the lagging cells without damaging the stronger cells. It sounds like equalize and balance are two different operations, intended for different cell chemistry and charging styles. =snip Yes, the PbAcid battery bank at my former employment used a PS that had both float and equalize voltage settings (which were set to the specific brand-model per their specs). Equalize raised charge voltage about 0.35v from float and was applied across all batteries as a bank and not each individually. Purpose of balance and equalize seems the same though accomplished differently (make all cells equal in voltage). Equalize had both voltage setting and charge timer so it would resume float at conclusion. These are not cheap units! We had one for 12v and one for 48v (master battery system for our UPS units). I do not expect to run internal batteries in my KX3 (except on a rare flight somewhere). Probably just use AA alkaline's. But opening the KX3 to change batteries is a delicate operation due to the flex and power wires. I might opt to make a small gel-cell package with a power connector, instead. PS: I made a makeshift mounting bracket for my KX3 that attaches to the 4-40 tapped holes used for the paddles (which I did not purchase). Simple flat aluminum plate that I bent up 15-degrees to view the display directly. Plate screws into my wooden radio shelfs. I cut a 13/16 inch hole in the plate to port the speaker. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com Kits made by KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 interal battery charger
Yes, that appears to be an example of the type of charge controller chips utilized in the types of balancing chargers mentioned earlier in this thread. For example, the iCharger 106B+ that I use can handle up to 8 cell packs in balance charge mode for a variety of different chemistries. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Matthew Zilmer mzil...@magellangps.comwrote: There are other ways to achieve charge parity (balance). One of them is the multi-cell charge controller. An example for LiPo chemistries is the AAT 3663. Datasheet is available at www.analogictech.com. Doesn't help with AA's, but there is probably an equivalent out there for lower voltage single cells. Looks to me like Greg is correct about the difference between balancing and equalizing. Xantrex / Trace refers only to equalizing with their controlled overcharge on solar charge controllers. EQ is used with FLAs to stir the pot and disturb sulfation on the Pb plates, and the process basically allows the sulfates to debond from the lead. With FLAs, I run an EQ for two hours about five times a year. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA KX3 #6 / FT -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of JP O'Connor Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 8:58 AM To: Greg Troxel Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 interal battery charger The balance charging operation requires access to each cell and requires a smart charger that is appropriately programmed for the specific chemistry and for the balance operation. The idea is to be sure that each cell is properly and fully charged without overcharging or damaging any of the other cells in the pack. This is quite common with the all the various lithium chemistries, and when using NiCd or NiMh smart chargers that charge each cell independently. Most of the inexpensive consumer NiCd and/or NiMh chargers do not treat each cell independently. Only the more expensive models include the test/refresh modes. Although NiCd and NiMh cells are often overcharged by many slow chargers, apparently that is not the best practice when performed on a regular basis. Thus, the smart chargers. If I am understanding correctly, a PbAcid (e.g. SLA) equalize charge operation does not have access to each cell and instead is an operation that uses a carefully controlled overcharge function, within the safe operating envelope of the battery, to bring up the lagging cells without damaging the stronger cells. It sounds like equalize and balance are two different operations, intended for different cell chemistry and charging styles. Starting with a fresh set of Eneloop (white label 1,900 mAh or black XX label 2,500 mAh) or other brand of pre-charged or low self-discharge (LSD) NiMh batteries that have had at least one test/refresh cycle performed, the need for removing the batteries from the KX3 for a test/refresh cycle should be VERY infrequent as long as they are not abused significantly. As Jim mentioned, hopefully this won't be too often. Who knows, even with heavy use, maybe the batteries won't need to be removed for over a year - or two. Yes, Greg, I plan to do things exactly as you stated: check after a few months, but then pretty much leave them alone in the radio for a long while as I see how things work out. I will be interested to hear from folks here on the reflector as experience is gained. With the traditional non-LSD high capacity NiMh batteries, the need for test/refresh may be a bit more frequent. For example, the Energizer 2600 mAh (?) AA cells are notorious for extremely rapid self-discharge and may need a bit more care and feeding. 72/73 de JP WF4Z On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Greg Troxel g...@work.lexort.com wrote: In balance vs equalize, I also hear about equalization charge to 12V SLA batteries without access to individual cells. PbAcid cells have a higher charge/discharge marginal ratio as they get full, so a mild overcharge should tend to cause all cells to be fully charged. NiMH is almost certainly similar, especially during low-rate overcharge as is typical, so I'd expect that all cells end up full. To understand the KXBC3 behavior, it seems that one should use a Maha C9000 or equivalent to measure/record the capacity (refresh/analyze) of all the cells, and then put then in the KX3 and use them for a while, and then when the KX3 says they are charged pull them and do a discharge measurement followed by a refresh/analyze. I'll report back later :-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery charger
I went ahead and ordered the internal charger so that I have the clock and so that I can keep a set of Eneloop XX batteries healthy inside the radio for ultralight operations. I, too, am interested in solar charging of my LiFePO4 packs. If one feeds raw solar panel power to a battery, then things get exciting to a degree, depending on what kind of battery is involved. I will defer to those who have actual field experience as to when that is or is not advisable. BuddiPole now offers a solar charge controller for LiFePO4 battery packs. It is $45.00 and charges the entire pack but is not a balancing charger. It is small and compact for field use. One will want to periodically test and balance their packs with a balancing charger. http://www.buddipole.com/sobaco.html An untested idea of mine (though I'm certainly not the first person to think of it) is to feed a standard balancing charger with power from a solar panel - as long as there is sufficient current and the voltage ranges are compatible - or using a DC-to-DC device between the panel and charger to maintain a steady voltage into the balancing charger. This is certainly more moving parts and more weight. Again, I will defer to those with actual field experience. Is this efficient? Is it practical? Has anyone done this already and can report findings? I suspect that for both the internal NiMh cells and the external 4SxP LiFePO4 packs, a simple charger for field use and a smart charger for bench use, will provide the best of both worlds. Food for thought... and experimentation! 72/73 de JP WF4Z On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Holger Schurig holgerschu...@gmail.comwrote: I also wondered about the NiMH stuff, now that LiFePO4 is affordable. Currently I'd like to go with an external LiFePO4 pack as well. So I'll have no clock in KX3 :-/ One thing that stuck me (not that it is overly important for me ...): I read once that somebody wrote LiPo isn't trail friendly, you can't charge them easily from a solar pad, lead-acid and NiMH are more friendly to the varying nature of sun charging. Now, LiFePO4 is a very different LiPo, does anybody know if that statement is true for them as well? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Questions
Yes, there is extensive DSP in this radio. However, the NR is not yet implemented. Check the user manual errata (KX3 Owner's Manual Errata Rev B4-1 - June 1, 2012) on the Elecraft web site for details on firmware enhancements still to come. For example, the NB, though implemented can only be set on or off right now - levels will be provided later - and some other features are also on the to do list. When planning to use APF, be sure to first turn on CWT, then tune the signal as close to the center of the indicator as is reasonably possible (it doesn't have to be exact, however), then SPOT the signal, then set a fairly narrow bandwidth, then turn on APF. Experiment with it! It is pretty cool! 72/73 de JP WF4Z On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Sid Leben s...@leben.com wrote: I received my KX3 a few days ago we are getting acquainted. Similar to my K3, but not the same.. I downloaded the newest Beta, 1.06. As I understand it, there is some form of DSP installed. When I invoke NR the screen reads tbd I assume that more is to come, as there are no levels to adjust as in the K3. The AGC left at the default Threshold of 7, is not sufficient. I will try lower levels to stop the overload from strong stations. I am trying to use the APF mode. A little complex, but it tends to ring when peaked in mode II. XPD3 paddle. Mechanically a very nice match to the rig. I prefer a tight (little movement ) paddle. I adjusted the paddles until constant contact then backed off, then tightened. Still more movement then I like, but I can acclimate. Sometimes in the middle of a transmission, I would get a string of dits or dahs, generally happens when settings too tight. I have opened the settings more, inducing more travel, I still get the stuck condition. I am wondering if this is a mechanical problem with the key, or a software pblm with the encoder circuit I will take it portable this afternoon give it a workout. I would appreciate comments. Sid KC2EE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery charger
Hi Ed, Terminology can be a tricky thing! So can the specifics of different battery types and how to charge them. You raise a number of excellent questions. In order to assist other readers who may not be as familiar with the topic, and to assure I am being clear, I will go in to some detail. -- Balance and Equalize I think we are using these two terms synonymously. Balancing chargers have access to each cell and during the charge cycle will send different amounts of energy to each cell so that each cell is properly topped off on its own. If a multi-cell pack is rapid charged, there is the risk of undercharging some cells (an inconvenience) and overcharging other cells (causing damage, and in some cases causing catastrophic failure). I suspect this is exactly the same as equalizing. I purchased my LiFePO4 packs and iCHarger 106B+ balancing charger from a vendor (EP Buddy) in the radio control model hobby, so that is why I picked up the balance term. One must/should use a balancing/equalizing charger when rapid charging a battery pack, especially when using extremely high charge rates. When slow charging, the balancing/equalizing function, though beneficial, is not required. -- Charging LiFePO4 Batteries When talking about charging batteries using this specific chemistry, one must clearly state if they are talking about charging a pack that has no internal electronics (for charge control and safety) or a pack that is set up with cells and a control board inside. The latter style is often configured as a drop in replacement for a traditional sealed lead acid (SLA) battery. I did not make that distinction in my earlier post in this thread, thus introducing the possibility of confusion. Some LiFePO4 batteries are the exact same size and shape as SLA batteries and are advertised as drop in replacements. These units have an internal charge controller that handles the actual charging of the cells, often (but not always) with balancing/equalizing capability included. Externally, the battery is connected to whatever was charging the original SLA in the application. Thus, an uninterruptible power supply, any application using a standard SLA charger, or a solar power application may gain the benefits of the LiFePO4 chemistry and still provide charging current/profile as if the battery is an SLA. The controller inside the battery does the translation to manage the actual LiFePO4 cells. In these types of applications, a standard solar charge controller (which is designed for lead acid batteries) may be used as is because the battery mimics an SLA. Some LifePO4 battery packs are just made up of cells only, have no control board, and must be charged by a system that is designed for this specific chemistry. Just as with any other type of battery, slow charging may be performed without balancing/equalizing and rapid charging does require balancing/equalizing. This is the type of pack I am using. They are supplied by EP Buddy, BuddiPople, and many others. Note that a LiFePO4 pack of the same nominal capacity as an SLA battery will have significantly more actual usable capacity within a single charge. SLA batteries have dramatically reduced life if discharged more than 50% of capacity and have significant voltage drop even at that point. LiFePO4 batteries on the other hand may be safely discharged much more (80% or more?) without damage or diminished life, while retaining almost full voltage until discharged about 80% or so. LiFePO4 also seem to have a significantly longer shelf life and service life than SLA batteries. Those who have experience with overall life of these types of batteries may wish to comment with their findings. -- Solar Charge Controllers There is nothing magic about solar charge controllers. They are like any other charger, except that they are designed to handle the wide voltage and current range presented by a solar panel or array. Just as with any type of charger, they must know the type of chemistry utilized by the battery so that the proper charge profile is used. It is commonly known that lead acid, NiMh, and Li-ion all use different charge profiles, so the proper type of charger (or solar charge controller) must be used with each. Just as with standard battery chargers, solar charge controllers are not all alike. Choose the proper type for your battery chemistry or battery pack profile. This isn't always made obvious to the prospective purchaser since, historically, most general purpose consumer solar applications involve SLA batteries. -- For the KX3 I plan to use the following portable power options and charging equipment/methods: Internal lithium primary cells (8 AA size Energizer L92 Ultimate Lithium) - Non-rechargeable - used only as emergency spares (Alkaline make very poor spares in this application, although due to their common availability are the ultimate spares of last resort.) Internal NiMh low self discharge (LSD) cells (8 AA size Eneloop XX nominal 2500mAh) -
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 interal battery charger
Hi Erik, I do not have enough personal experience with these to provide a suggested guideline based on my own empirical results. Other readers of this thread may have that knowledge or know of references. I suspect that if one does not abuse their cells, and if the cells are all in good shape to begin with, that removing the cells every few months should suffice. When I install my KXBC3 I will test and charge a set of AA cells so I have a baseline set of stats on the cells. Then I will check them after a few cycles of use and test/charge to see how well they stayed balanced. If badly out of balance at that point, then frequent balancing (or selection of a few different cells for better matching) may be needed. I suspect they will work very well, however, with balancing needed only every few months - subject to how often they are charged and discharged. Sorry that I could not be of more help on this. Possibly others can weigh in for us. Thanks, JP 72/73 de WF4Z On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Erik Basilier ebasil...@cox.net wrote: JP wrote: All battery packs, regardless of chemistry, benefit from a periodic balance/equalize charge. Do you have any specific recommendation on how often one needs to take out the NiMH batteries to balance them? The KX3 battery holders are very solid (good) but I find it difficult to remove the batteries, as significant force is needed. I have a set of NiMH in there, and my default plan is to just leave them there for as long as possible. I hope I can install the charger when it arrives without removing the batteries. And, I am running on external power whenever I can, so that the internal batteries won't need to be charged until the internal charger arrives. 73, Erik K7TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery charger
Wayne has stated that the KXBC3 internal charger will be for NiMh only and will only be a timed charge, set to run an amount of time chosen by the user, with a C/10 current rate of 200-250 mA. (He is considering a new firmware mode to allow auto start of charging, though that is down the priority list at this time.) The current battery holder design does not allow access to the individual cell voltage, so one cannot safely design a fast or smart internal charger at the present time. The current user manual provides additional detail on the planned capabilities and operation. Once the charger option ships, I plan to use a set of Eneloop XX (2500 mAh) low self discharge NiMh batteries internally, and every few months (3? 6?) pull them out for a test/refresh in a Maha MH-C9000 smart charger to make sure the cells are all healthy. I plan to do this very rarely since it does require opening the radio and generally is not needed if I don't abuse the cells. The internal charger will handle day-to-day charge duties. Externally, I use a 4S1P LiFePO4 (lithium iron phosphate) pack from EPBuddy (very affordable compared to other vendors for the identical item - and a much safer lithium chemistry than most others) made from A123 brand cells for most portable operations (to minimize use of the Energizer Ultimate Lithium batteries currently installed) and a small 3 A power supply for fixed use. 73 de WF4Z On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:33 AM, John Fritze fritzej...@gmail.com wrote: I know the internal battery charger for the KX3 is still being finalized, but my question is: will it be able to charge differnt types of batteries like lithium or just nicad? K2QY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 ?
On Wednesday (20 June) Wayne said in a message on the KX3 Yahoo group: The KXBC3 is working but still being finalized. Your humble firmware guy is in the critical path. Best guess is production in a couple of months. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:23 PM, David F. Reed w5sv.d...@gmail.com wrote: Any idea when the KXBC3 battery charger for the KX3 might start shipping? Thanks 73 de Dave, W5SV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Operating Tip: Using the KXPD3 attached paddle as a hand key
My KX3 has cooties! ;-) On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:30 PM, stan levandowski sjl...@optonline.netwrote: turning the KXPD3 into a nice little sideswiper? Way to go, Wayne! 73, stan WB2LQF On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: In addition, you can set the CW KEY2 parameter to HAND. In this case both the left and right paddles will function like a hand key. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Office
Hi All, Yes, the folks at Elecraft are human and do indeed make mistakes. That is certainly true of them, or any group of humans! Though it is certainly not true that they can do no wrong it is true that they set the standard much higher than many other groups - and among several of their competitors. Remember: Nothing is absolute. ;-) Sort of like: Every rule has an exception except this one! ;-) OK, I will stop now! Have a great day! 73 de JP WF4Z On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Kevin Cozens ke...@ve3syb.ca wrote: On 12-06-01 11:39 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: Wow. While I'm one of the Elecraft isn't perfect people, you're complaining about typos that didn't delay shipping and parts poking out of a bag. No, not really a complaint. More a case of mentioning a number of issues I experienced as contrast to the usual glowing reports one sees here. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |Nerds make the shiny things that distract Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're | powerful! #include disclaimer/favourite | --Chris Hardwick __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor
On the KX3 Yahoo group, in the files section, is an example file that you may open with the K3 Frequency Memory Editor and then optionally edit and/or download to the KX3. Of course, if you ahve a K3, you may already have files you wish to use. 73 de JP WF4Z On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.netwrote: Yes. The most recent revision on the Elecraft web site is needed. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Lally Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 8:51 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor Can the K3 Frequency Memory Editor be used to edit memories in the KX3? Thanks, John Lally W7JJL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] elecraft office
Amen, brother! To a man - and woman - the Elecraft staff are always efficient, effective, fast, and friendly. Even though a few people are very impatient about when their new widget will ship, it is amazing to watch the process unfold and see, in the example of the KX3, how a prototype of a very complex and bleeding-edge device turns into a shipping product in about a year that has such a low failure/defect rate that certain larger competitors should blush. Getting one advanced new radio working well is hard... scaling up volume and getting hundreds of them out the door and working well when they leave is quite another matter! The vast majority of us (99.9%) are VERY thankful that Elecraft sticks to their guns and does things the right way, not the quick I want it now way. I don't know how Wayne, Eric, and other participating Elecraft staffers stay so calm and polite in the face of some of the posts we see here, and especially as are seen on the KX3 Yahoo group. The fine folks who answer the phones and emails are certainly to be commended as well. Thank you all! 73 de WF4Z (Hopefully this OT thread will not get too long. After a few posts, the point will likely have been made.) On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Robert Galambos va3...@gmail.com wrote: wayne/eric i know others have said this, but i think a pat on the back from us customers to your office staff can not be repeat enough times. so what i think would be nice if you forward to them all the comments (i hope)that will follow, so they know they are appricaited __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 assembly manual question
Absent the referenced document, possibly the information you seek is in the KX3 Owner's Manual. Specifically on page 31: If you install a KXFL3 roofing filter during KX3 kit assembly, or install one in a factory assembled KX3 after initial purchase, you’ll need to perform the Receive Sideband calibration step (pg 32). If these are both the same thing, then possibly the assembly manual could also be adjusted: 2) If you installed the KXFL3, calibrate it as shown on the instruction sheet supplied with the KXFL3 module or as shown in the Calibration section of the KX3 Owner's Manual. Hope this helps! 73 de JP WF4Z On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Bruce Beford bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.netwrote: At the end of the KX3 assembly manual, the following statement is seen: 2) If you installed the KXFL3, calibrate it as shown on the instruction sheet supplied with the KXFL3 module. I note that the instruction sheet for the KXFL3 module is not yet available on the Elecraft manuals download page. Could it be posted please, for download and review of these calibration instructions? Thanks, Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New AGC FW
Not yet. The K3 AGC firmware improvements have only just now been created and are out for testing in the field. Wayne has already indicated that the KX3 will benefit from the work in due time. On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.netwrote: I guess the question is: Is this already implemented, or its equivalent, on the KX3? 73, Guy. On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Robert Galambos va3...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. Silly question. While I understand that the k3 and the kx3 are different implementation, software wise. When should we expect, at least a beta, of this new feature on the portable? Not that you want me to be a beta, just asking for the group. And sorry if it has been asked before Sent from my iPad On 2012-05-07, at 0:19, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: Temporary work-around: manual notch. Wayne On May 6, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Now we need to be patient to see if the auto-notch feature can be enabled whilst running the new settings. Agreed but not too patient! The new settings seem to work find on SSB but the loss of auto-notch is the one big miss. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/6/2012 10:08 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: *Bob, I concur with all your observations. This is the largest FW improvement effecting all styles of operation that I can recall in quite some time. An S3 noise on 40M this morning was easily eliminated and then a local Ham travelling by was 30db over S9 and I noticed the lack of distortion previously experienced prior to this upgrade. Now we need to be patient to see if the auto-notch feature can be enabled whilst running the new settings. regards, Gary * On 7 May 2012 11:31, Jim Sheldonw...@cox.net wrote: Don, Gary and the group, Wayne's earlier comments about the noise blanker working better turns out to be an understatement to say the least. Not only has the clarity of signals improved by being able to tailor the onset of the SW AGC to start at a higher level and clean up many of the artifacts that created problems before, but it also allows the IF noise blanker as well as the DSP noise blanker to work more like most people's concept of what a noise blanker should be able to do and now does it with FAR less distortion to the desired signals. This includes using heavy blanking with strong signals close in. I've now been able to eliminate some stubborn power line interference that has been plaguing me for a couple of weeks and due to recent tornado damage a few miles South of me, the power company has not had time to find and cure it yet. They've been busy replacing the temporary lines poles they used to get everyone back on line as quickly as they could after the storm. Now that they are on the right track, I'll bet there will be quite a few more improvements to come. Jim - W0EB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Order
Hello Ed, The order start time in UTC, along with an UNOFFICIAL and PARTIAL list of orders as voluntarily self-reported by members of the KX3 Yahoo group may be found at the link below. If you wish, you may add your information at the bottom of the appropriate Orders Placed tab (factory built or kit), either with your call or anonymously, and the person maintaining the list will sort your entry into place a bit later. Hopefully you can examine the headers on your original confirmation email to determine the zone the reported time belongs to. Note there are three tabs in this workbook: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsxBsqqgt7AxdGMtanBqcWMwOUVUYVZRbnJjZGN0UlE#gid=0 Remember that this list is not an Elecraft list. Items may ship out of order as shown on this list since it is unofficial and incomplete. It is only a very rough guide for those who couldn't wait to hear news about shipments. Elecraft is shipping as rapidly as they can, consistent with quality and start up issue resolution. I am happy to wait for mine so it is right! I received my shipping pre-notice (or order reconfirmation request) late Friday and hope to have my radio in the next week or so. My order was placed at 04:48 UTC that first night, roughly 90 minutes or so after ordering opened. 73 de JP WF4Z On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote: Seeing chatter about orders and when they will arrive I checked my Elecraft order confirmation since I am unsure of the exact time I placed my order on 27Dec2011 The confirm e-mail was sent at 10:46pm; order# 2208-4482-7710 I later augmented my order to add the tuner What is not clear is if the time-tag is AK time or CA time. I wonder if anyone recalls the exact time that ordering was started. Just to give me time to guess how far back in the pack I am. I am thinking I made the order at 9pm AKST (10pm PST). 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com Kits made by KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 waiting time
Based on recent posts to the KX3 Yahoo group on this topic, currently ordered units were anticipated to be shipped in roughly 90 to 120 days. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Mike Short mike.sh...@mchsi.com wrote: Any idea as to wait? I ordered one today. Mike AI4NS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SMT and the K3 - Nerves
Now that is customer service!!! On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Keith ke...@elecraft.com wrote: Lee; Your repair report shows that mod was done in 2010. I am sending you a copy of the report directly to your email. Keith On 4/19/2012 7:18 AM, Lee Buller wrote: I have SN 443 - an early model of the K3. It has been back to Aptos for updates. Now then, I just got at P3 and included in that is a kit that that changes a resistor on the K3 to give 10 db more to the P3. It is SMT, but they also include a small resistor if you don't want to use the SMT resistor. Now I have visors and I have magnifying glass on an armbut LOOKING at this procedure and the K3it gives megreat pause. This is a whole new game for me from the K2. I have huge hands and this just makes me nervous. Somebody.make me un-nervous about clipping off an SMT resistor and replacing it with either another SMT (Like that is going to happen - NOT) or the little resistor. Lee - K0WA Nervous in Kansas In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my mind. - John W. (Kansas) Never interfere with anything that isn't bothering you. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Loudspeakers for the K3
Hello Chris, I do not have any experience with the speakers you mentioned. Hopefully another person will have information for you. The JBL speakers that Mike mentioned are indeed excellent. I first learned about them when they were recommended to me by Bob Heil. If you use a pair of them you can take advantage of the K3's various audio effects. Regardless of the specific brand and model, a quality set of speakers (or headphones) preserves the fidelity of the audio from the rig to help dig that rare one out of the pile or QRM. Thanks, JP 73 de WF4Z On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote: The West Mountain Radio powered COMspkrs are wonderful. No RFI problems at all. Fred Cady fcady at ieee dot org The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation www.ke7x.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of OE5CSP-Chris Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:00 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Loudspeakers for the K3 I´m currently using a pair of old TV-speakers and I´m still looking for good speakers.I´ve found the Dierking 40w speakers(http://www.eurofrequence.de/lautsprecher/)in the internet.Is anybody using them with the K3? Are they good? Is there a recommendation from Elecraft or any wise audiophile? 73,Chris-OE5CSP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Loudspeakers-for-the-K3- tp7472583p7472583.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX-3 Serial Numbers To Date ...
My order was about 90 minutes after the start. Based on posts from Elecraft (here and/or on the Yahoo group), I suspect that by the time I ordered there were already well over 200 orders - well over - and I do not expect an email this week or even next. I certainly wouldn't complain if it happened, however! It seems highly unlikely, though. They are ramping up slowly to make sure things are right and said it would take several weeks to deliver the orders placed just in the first few hours. Hopefully the shipment volume will increase soon! Regardless, I would rather have it right than fast truth be told. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote: I ordered about 4-hours after the start on Dec. 27. I haven't received the order confirmation e-mail as yet ... hopeful for this week. (For those keeping track of this) I suspect I am a couple hundred behind the original order. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com Kits made by KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Product Information
Yes, indeed, Tony! Yesterday morning, Ian and I discussed your point as well. It is very expensive to send a large, heavy, high end early production lot radio back to the brand X manufacturer's US location to upgrade a hardware feature that didn't work right in the early units (and how did it pass through their testing)... and they sold them anyway. (Don't ask me how I know this.) That, and a shabby spec on a previous radio from the same company - all the units have a roofing filter so far out of spec that it may as well consitute false advertising - so you can be sure that 1) I will never be an early adopter of anything from that company again, and 2) even after shakedown, I am less likely to buy from them at all. So, how likely am I to contribute to their sales and profits in the future? Exactly to your point, Tony, that high end radio, while now fixed, still has related issues that will linger permanently. Contrast that with Elecraft. I had the chance to meet and chat with Wayne for a few minutes at Dayton last year. He more than gave me the time of day, even though I was not at the time a customer and his booth was packed with people who were actually spending money. What impressed me most, however, was he thought and spoke the way the very best (not average) hardware and software engineers do - that spoke volumes to me. Then, in Huntsville, I had a chance to meet and spend some time with Eric. He reminded me of the great group of folks that started a leading edge high tech firm I worked for many years ago. Then I talked to a bunch of knowledgeable local hams and checked the forums. Great engineering (get it right) and great business practices (customer first, thus sales and profits will take care of themselves). Why don't we see that all the time? So, despite being burned twice by brand X, I pre-ordered a KX3 with all the trimmings and expect to do the same with a K3 later this year. Recently I ordered a couple of their Mini-Module kits (they finally got some of my money!) and I was impressed by their customer communication, shipping, and the quality of the kits. Stick to your excellent ways of doing business Elecraft! We can wait for your quality! Even if we do bug you about taking our orders, providing advance info, and... ship dates! Your business model is great! On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Ian Kahn km4ik@gmail.com wrote: more concerned with getting a product right the first time than meeting hard release dates = One might add that it's also better than providing an endless series of fixes and updates only to have a product that never quite works right, a situation we all have heard of many times. Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
