Re: [Emc-users] Various problems with boards, drivers, modules, Linices, etc.
Perhaps a couple of reference designs of "tried and true" hardware would be helpful? One for beginners, made up of simple, and cheap hardware. Another for more experienced people, that need the speed/power of a more advanced system. There is no one single place on the wiki, that says what hardware combinations work well together. There are just a couple of lists of what could be used, and a few pieces of hardware known not to work, as well as some latency tests done on a few motherboards. This does not have to be a exhaustive list either, just a "If you use this hardware, you will minimize your problems, and there are people that have experience with it" type of list. An example may be: a mini-itx motherboard with a certain set of settings, a xylotex driver board, a 10 amp gold brick (Acopian), Oriental Motor steppers, etc... This is just an example, not what I am putting together. Some of the people I have worked with, have a want for something, and they can do the work, they just don't have all of the computer skills (esp. not linux skills), and just want a detailed set of step by step build instructions. (put bolt "A" in hole "B" type of instructions) On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 23:11 -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote: > Gentle persons: > > In a recent response to a disgruntled user trying to get a new-model > Mesa Electronics board working with EMC2 and servo drives, Peter Wallace > made a profound remark that characterizes many of the email storms I > seen over the past several years. > > Peter said "The newness of the driver also means that you have the > disadvantage that there are few people with 7I43s using Hostmot2 to > compare notes with." > > Substitute appropriate nouns for "7I43" and "Hostmot2" and this sentence > expresses the problem I've seen on many boards and email lists. Although > EMC2 and gnu/Linux make us all birds of a feather on this list, we have > each of us created a variation on a theme. When problems occur, they > may or may not be obvious to others, even to a guru. The problem getting > a particular cellular technology modem working with Ubuntu is another > example. > > I find the principal value of this particular list is not just that (1) > its participants are ready willing and able to come forward with > suggestions, pointers, personal experiences, as well as do > extracurricular work; and not just that (2) its participants span a > tremendous range of hardware and software experiences so that their > responses are often homeruns on the first swing (apologies to the > non-baseball fans); but also that (3) its participants are very frank > about what they know, what they're pretty sure they know, and what > they're sure they don't know. Swings-and-misses are often converted into > homeruns because the participants fill in the missing bits in each > other's responses. > > There are lots of lists and boards out there when every newbie question > gets a dozen independent responses from presumptive experts who are > condescending, cryptic, and wrong. They declaim rather than debate. I > can't understand what motivates them to respond at all. They remind me > of the old Saturday Night Live news sketches where Dan Aykroyd always > prefaced his response to his co-anchor Jane Curtin with "Jane, you > ignorant slut." If I were just starting out with a nontrivial computer > application instead of building on 47 years of computing experience on > everything from mainframes (including analog!) to supers to minis to > micros, their responses would make me totally despair of ever being able > to get something to work. > > So, to all you regular participants in EMC-USERS, I tip my hat. > > To all you who feel you just can't get the hang of it, keep at it. We've > all been there and we want to see you succeed too (besides, there's a > good chance we'll learn something from you too). > > Regards, > Kent > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listin
Re: [Emc-users] Various problems with boards, drivers, modules, Linices, etc.
Gentle persons: In a recent response to a disgruntled user trying to get a new-model Mesa Electronics board working with EMC2 and servo drives, Peter Wallace made a profound remark that characterizes many of the email storms I seen over the past several years. Peter said "The newness of the driver also means that you have the disadvantage that there are few people with 7I43s using Hostmot2 to compare notes with." Substitute appropriate nouns for "7I43" and "Hostmot2" and this sentence expresses the problem I've seen on many boards and email lists. Although EMC2 and gnu/Linux make us all birds of a feather on this list, we have each of us created a variation on a theme. When problems occur, they may or may not be obvious to others, even to a guru. The problem getting a particular cellular technology modem working with Ubuntu is another example. I find the principal value of this particular list is not just that (1) its participants are ready willing and able to come forward with suggestions, pointers, personal experiences, as well as do extracurricular work; and not just that (2) its participants span a tremendous range of hardware and software experiences so that their responses are often homeruns on the first swing (apologies to the non-baseball fans); but also that (3) its participants are very frank about what they know, what they're pretty sure they know, and what they're sure they don't know. Swings-and-misses are often converted into homeruns because the participants fill in the missing bits in each other's responses. There are lots of lists and boards out there when every newbie question gets a dozen independent responses from presumptive experts who are condescending, cryptic, and wrong. They declaim rather than debate. I can't understand what motivates them to respond at all. They remind me of the old Saturday Night Live news sketches where Dan Aykroyd always prefaced his response to his co-anchor Jane Curtin with "Jane, you ignorant slut." If I were just starting out with a nontrivial computer application instead of building on 47 years of computing experience on everything from mainframes (including analog!) to supers to minis to micros, their responses would make me totally despair of ever being able to get something to work. So, to all you regular participants in EMC-USERS, I tip my hat. To all you who feel you just can't get the hang of it, keep at it. We've all been there and we want to see you succeed too (besides, there's a good chance we'll learn something from you too). Regards, Kent - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] HOME at 0.032?
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?CoordinateSystems#So_if_you_re_lost_what_should_you_do - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] kinematics
You should write a kinematics module which describes your machine, and use it instead of trivkins. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/motion_kinematics.html A kinematics module is implemented as a component. These are usually compiled and installed by the "comp" program, though you can do it by listing them in certain Makefieles or Submakefiles. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ContributedComponents#How_to_compile_and_install_a_component For instance, if you write the file 'ygdan.c' with the functions listed at http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/motion_kinematics.html#r1_4 you can compile and install it with sudo comp --install ygdan.c and then specify loadrt ygdan before loadrt motion ... in your hal files. Jeff - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] HOME at 0.032?
Aram, mdi 'g92 x0' after you home the machine your x will then be zero when you home the machine Stuart On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:55 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > I have interesting problem. > My X home at 0.032 instead of 0. > In ini file HOME set to 0. and at the same time machine homes with 0.032 > When I put in INI file for HOME 0.032 than machine start home at 0.000 > It strange but that what I have. > Is there some place else to look besides INI file? > Thanks > Aram > > > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Home Switches
Len Shelton wrote: > I am trying to setup a new machine with EMC2 and Axis using home switches. > Everything seems to be working fine, except that "z" sets itself to 8.5202 > after homing. > > Even though I have: > > HOME = 0.0 > HOME_OFFSET = 0.00 > > Where is it pulling this 8.5202? I can find no reference to any number like > that anywhere in the config files. > I think this is based on the "last" offset between home and a work coordinate. It would be in your x.var file. Since your home offset is zero, then it should appear as 8.5202 in that file, unless your machine is defined in a different unit (mm vs inches) hat the default display units. Jon - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] kinematics
hello, everyone! I do a model with Matlab and SimulationX, analyzing its kinematics, and next is designing a control sysytem with EMC2, then, what should i do between EMC2 and the model? Should i put the model into the EMC2 to produce G code to analog the cutting feed? or i just should change the kinematic models, such as the makefile file and the trivkins.c file? i am still confusing, and cann't understand it clearly. So i hope someone can tell me even an overview. Thanks a lot! yang - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] HOME at 0.032?
Hi I have interesting problem. My X home at 0.032 instead of 0. In ini file HOME set to 0. and at the same time machine homes with 0.032 When I put in INI file for HOME 0.032 than machine start home at 0.000 It strange but that what I have. Is there some place else to look besides INI file? Thanks Aram - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Working link to supplier of cutters and other machine shop stuff.
Thanks Dave, the link works. Jim - Original Message - From: "Dave Engvall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Thread cutting > > On Nov 5, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: > >> And I've got MSC catalogs, but Hennley >>> beats their prices everytime. >> >> I tried Googling Hennley and Henley but still did not find a source of >> cutters. >> >> Jim > > Try hemly tool > > www.hemlytool.com >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Andre' Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Thread cutting >> >> >>> At 05:00 PM 11/5/2008, you wrote: > > Well, there is also KBC, MSC, Enco, J&L, and probably some others. > Doesn't Little Machine Shop > sell smaller tooling for the desktop machines? Yes, but his selection is still limited, and while low priced generally, the old adage about getting what you pay for comes to mind. And I finally remembered the name of my toolset, Glanz. Inserts are from a 'V' name IIRC. Velleman maybe? And I've got MSC catalogs, but Hennley beats their prices everytime. And I'm not familiar with the remaining names. > I use KBC a lot as they > are the last one to keep a location in my town, and I save a > bundle by > picking up heavy stuff at their warehouse. I assume they have a web page? Thanks. > Jon >>> >>> The travers web site works OK with the latest version of windows >>> explorer >>> but they have a long way to go to get to McMaster Carr's level for >>> on line >>> catalog. >>> There paper catalog does have a lot of handy information on insert >>> part >>> number decoding, grades, coatings, speeds and feeds etc.. >>> >>> If you good tooling to use in a small lathe look at tools that are >>> ment >>> for >>> swiss type turning machines. >>> Like this. >>> http://www.whizcut.se/applications_swiss_automatics.html >>> >>> __ >>> Andre' B. Clear Lake, Wi. >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>> challenge >>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win >>> great >>> prizes >>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >>> world >>> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> >> -- >> --- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win >> great prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in >> the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the > world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: > Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:34:08 -0500 > From: Jim Fleig - CNC Services <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43 > > Hi Peter, > > Why not offer to exchange for an earlier board for which there is already an > established setup? This may provide an opportunity for the customer to get > something up and running. > > Jim > > PS (Overall I have read very positive reviews of your product.) Sounds like a good Idea. To Robert Acosta: If you cannot get the 7I43 working in your application, Mesa will replace it with a 5I20 card at no charge. (The 5I20 has drivers and firmware that have been supported for at least a couple of years by EMC2) Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43
Hi Peter, Why not offer to exchange for an earlier board for which there is already an established setup? This may provide an opportunity for the customer to get something up and running. Jim PS (Overall I have read very positive reviews of your product.) - Original Message - From: "Peter C. Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43 > On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Richard Acosta wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:57:39 -0200 >> From: Richard Acosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> Subject: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43 >> >> Ok, i really pissed off, i have bought something i cant use. >> I have been trying to do something with this crappy card and all i get >> is error this, error that, no clear info, no clear manuals, i have asked >> for help and i have 3 different versions of what should i do, and... >> none has worked. >> Mesa sends me to EMC2 Boards, since it looks they have not a clue on how >> to make their own board work. > > Thats more than a little unfair. We know our boards and their firmware > inside > and out. > > We (Mesa) are _not_ experts on EMC, the HostMot2 driver, or HAL setup > issues. > That is why you were referred to the EMC list, where people with more > experience in these areas can help you. > > Also HostMot2 driver support is very new, requiring that you update your > EMC2 > installation to the latest (trunk) version. The newness of the driver also > means that you have the disadvantage that there are few people with 7I43s > using Hostmot2 to compare notes with. > > The firmware in the 7I43 is new as well, and although we have tested > compatibility with many parallel ports, there may still be EPP issues here > that need to be addressed. Without exact descriptions of the problems, > error > messages, etc there is little we can do to improve comptibility. > > What I have not seen from you is detailed information about: > > What version of EMC you are using > > What your HAL file looks like > > What kind of error messages you have > > > Peter Wallace > Mesa Electronics > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the > world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
Mark wrote> Hi Mark Thank you for all the trouble you're gone to, at the moment seems I'm causing all sorts of trouble. It's truly not deliberate. So I will set up Internet sharing in windows, well with some help I will. One last thing I found Http://ubuntuformums.org/showthread.php?t=836918 It a nice set of instructions, wonder if you might take a quite look see if it's worth a try. Once again many thanks for your help. Best wishes Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Richard Acosta wrote: > Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:57:39 -0200 > From: Richard Acosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43 > > Ok, i really pissed off, i have bought something i cant use. > I have been trying to do something with this crappy card and all i get > is error this, error that, no clear info, no clear manuals, i have asked > for help and i have 3 different versions of what should i do, and... > none has worked. > Mesa sends me to EMC2 Boards, since it looks they have not a clue on how > to make their own board work. Thats more than a little unfair. We know our boards and their firmware inside and out. We (Mesa) are _not_ experts on EMC, the HostMot2 driver, or HAL setup issues. That is why you were referred to the EMC list, where people with more experience in these areas can help you. Also HostMot2 driver support is very new, requiring that you update your EMC2 installation to the latest (trunk) version. The newness of the driver also means that you have the disadvantage that there are few people with 7I43s using Hostmot2 to compare notes with. The firmware in the 7I43 is new as well, and although we have tested compatibility with many parallel ports, there may still be EPP issues here that need to be addressed. Without exact descriptions of the problems, error messages, etc there is little we can do to improve comptibility. What I have not seen from you is detailed information about: What version of EMC you are using What your HAL file looks like What kind of error messages you have Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kitamura
Thank you Steve and Kirk. The control is a Kitamura 1000. I contacted Sanyo and they said the number I gave them are not good. So now we know they are AC servos with encoders, What next? Seeing how the Servo Amp, motors and encoders are all match and worked at one time. What would you all suggest? Keep the plc? by pass it? 1. EMC 2.? 3. Servo drive Servo / Encoder 4. Machine Tool P.S. Steve. I will recover my manual I had a electronic guy working on the control he needed the books. Thanks for the advise -Those are the same motors as the Kitamura MyCenter 0 here. Is that what you have? Do you have the Kitamura 1000 controls or the Yasnac controls? The motors are AC servos with encoders. The encoders go to the servo amp, which makes a copy of them to send on the the CNC controller. The encoders are high resolution, probably 2000 line, 8000 count. The servo driver probably supports pulse, analog velocity, and analog torque commands. I think this machine uses analog but don't have a guess if it is velocity or torque. The manuals with mine included block level diagrams with cable and connector designations, but no actual schematic. Cheers, Steve Stallings - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43
Richard Acosta wrote: > Ok, i really pissed off, i have bought something i cant use. > I have been trying to do something with this crappy card and all i get > is error this, error that, no clear info, no clear manuals, i have asked > for help and i have 3 different versions of what should i do, and... > none has worked. We'll all be happy to help, i'm sure, but we need something more to go in than "error this and error that". What is your setup, what did you try, and what happened? Be specific. Cut-and-paste information is better than rephrasing it in your own words. > So please, is there anyone who has a WORKING hal file for this board for > use with servos?, i need to make this thing work or else i'll throw it > away and start with origami. There *are* HAL config files that make servos work on the 7i43. All we have is in the tree. configs/hostmot2. But there (apparently) are no HAL files that make your machine work. You'll have to either help us help you, or do it yourself. -- Sebastian Kuzminsky - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT Newton3 was internet connection
-Original Message- From: John Prentice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 November 2008 11:58 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT Newton3 was internet connection It's Friday so may I try? The mass to be chucked out the back is integral to the fuel in a rocket but is the medium through which the engine is travelling, accelerated directly or indirectly by combustion, in a jet. I say indirectly to cover the air moved by the fan in a turbofan like the RB211. John Prentice Hi John I'm sorry it was totally off topic, and I should not have done it. However it would be rude of me not to reply. Answer; Rocket has one hole at the back, jet has two holes one at the front one at the back. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
Drew wrote The way I understood it is that you can shut off a jet engine. You can't shut off a rocket. Once lit they'll go until they run out of propellant. Drew Hi Drew No - you can shut off liquid boosters, agreed not solid fueled ones. Much simpler than that. Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
-Original Message- From: John Kasunich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 November 2008 11:53 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] internet connection] Drew Rogge wrote: > The way I understood it is that you can shut off a jet engine. You can't > shut off a rocket. Once lit they'll go until they run out of propellant. > > Drew > > Dave Houghton wrote: >> Gee you are you close, but no cigar, not really where the oxidizer comes >> from. A jet engine could carry it's own oxygen supply. You are so close - >> more simple. Jet engines always have this; rocket engines never. >> >> Dave Please guys, enough is enough. I know this list sometimes seems like sitting around the pot-bellied stove and chatting, but keep in mind that searching the archives is a way for future users to find the answers to their EMC2 related questions. Filling the archives with riddles and such isn't going to help them. EMC discussions: fine - that's what the list is for. General Linux questions: there are probably better places, but... Totally off-topic stuff: please don't. Regards, John Kasunich Sorry John and to all it was my fault. Regards Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kitamura
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 13:55 -0500, Alpha wrote: > What have so far is Sanyo Servo Drives. I don't have any info on them, but > here are the numbers. If anyone know where I can get the tech-info please let > me know > > 2OB15OFFWB4 > 65BA030DXT06 > 65BA030DXT04 I got information on my P5 motors here. I have no idea if this will cover your setup though. http://www.motiononline.com/NewFiles/download.html#ACservo http://www.motiononline.com/ Kirk http://wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/index.html - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT Newton3 was internet connection
> > Dave Houghton wrote: > >>[snip] >>Question: What is the main difference between a rocket engine and a jet >>engine? Come on have a guess. >> >> > Well, it's off-topic, but I'll bite. :) > > The difference is where the oxidizer comes from (carried with the fuel > or from an external air intake) > It's Friday so may I try? The mass to be chucked out the back is integral to the fuel in a rocket but is the medium through which the engine is travelling, accelerated directly or indirectly by combustion, in a jet. I say indirectly to cover the air moved by the fan in a turbofan like the RB211. John Prentice - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 19:50 +0200, Dave Houghton wrote: > > Hello Mark > In 'file browser' I did a search for 'wvdialconf' came up with 3 files > 'wvdialconf' > 'wvdialconf.1.gz' > 'wvdialconf.log' > > All 3 have a lock on. > > Don't know if this helps any? > > Regards > Dave > > Further I ran the following: > 'sudo wvdialconf' and got: > Editing `/etc/wvdial.conf'. > > Scanning your serial ports for a modem. > > ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 9600 baud > ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 115200 baud > ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up. > ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 9600 baud > ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 115200 baud > ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up. > Modem Port Scan<*1>: S2 S3 USB0 > ttyUSB1: Exec format error > Modem Port Scan<*1>: USB1 > ttyUSB2: Exec format error > Modem Port Scan<*1>: USB2 > > > Sorry, no modem was detected! Is it in use by another program? > Did you configure it properly with setserial? > > Please read the FAQ at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/?WvDial > > If you still have problems, send mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > > Regards > Dave > Ok, Now we have something. The computer recognizes the card, the driver is initialized, and wvdial found it. Unfortunately, this is also where I was when I realized I had to compile a new driver for my card. Your card, and my card, (and other similar cards) have the same problem. The card is both a wireless Internet card (I am loathe to call this a modem, as it does not modulate/demodulate a signal, it just relays them, same as a network card), and also the internal storage for the windows driver is set up as a pseudo cdrom drive. The cdrom drive gets set up first, and then the windows driver has to switch it over to use the wireless portion. They both have seperate USB settings, so that the windows driver knows when it has been set up correctly. You will need to compile a new driver, and possibly install additional software to do this. Also, you will have to create a custom udev script to get all of this set up. Without access to your hardware, I won't be able to help much, as it took me two days of compiling, and writing test scripts, to get mine working. If you still want to do this, I will try to help. I won't be online much until after tuesday, as I have some traveling to do. Right now, it is looking like setting up Internet Connection Sharing in windows, and setting up a small network, will be the easiest thing to do. Synaptics will work without a internet connection, but you will have to set up a local repository somewhere on your network anyway, and you will have to mirror a remote repository to be able to stay updated. The last option, is to just d/l the packages you want onto your windows box, and use dpkg to install them. All of these items have a pretty steep learning curve, beyond the scope of this forum. I am not saying don't ask, just that there are other forums that are better suited for asking general Linux questions. ICS in windows is a point/click interface, that has been written for even the (UMM... PC word here) 'least experienced' user to use. Networking can be as simple as a crossover cable attached between the two computers, or (preferably) a hub/switch/wireless box and the necessary cables. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
Drew Rogge wrote: > The way I understood it is that you can shut off a jet engine. You can't > shut off a rocket. Once lit they'll go until they run out of propellant. > > Drew > > Dave Houghton wrote: >> Gee you are you close, but no cigar, not really where the oxidizer comes >> from. A jet engine could carry it's own oxygen supply. You are so close - >> more simple. Jet engines always have this; rocket engines never. >> >> Dave Please guys, enough is enough. I know this list sometimes seems like sitting around the pot-bellied stove and chatting, but keep in mind that searching the archives is a way for future users to find the answers to their EMC2 related questions. Filling the archives with riddles and such isn't going to help them. EMC discussions: fine - that's what the list is for. General Linux questions: there are probably better places, but... Totally off-topic stuff: please don't. Regards, John Kasunich - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
The way I understood it is that you can shut off a jet engine. You can't shut off a rocket. Once lit they'll go until they run out of propellant. Drew Dave Houghton wrote: > > Gee you are you close, but no cigar, not really where the oxidizer comes > from. A jet engine could carry it's own oxygen supply. You are so close - > more simple. Jet engines always have this; rocket engines never. > > Dave > - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
-Original Message- From: Dave Houghton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 November 2008 10:43 PM To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] internet connection] -Original Message- From: Stephen Wille Padnos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 November 2008 10:20 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] internet connection] Dave Houghton wrote: >[snip] >Question: What is the main difference between a rocket engine and a jet >engine? Come on have a guess. > > Well, it's off-topic, but I'll bite. :) The difference is where the oxidizer comes from (carried with the fuel or from an external air intake) - Steve Hi Steve. [Corrected away] Gee you are you close, but no cigar, not really where the oxidizer comes from. A jet engine could carry it's own oxygen supply. You are so close - more simple. Jet engines always have this; rocket engines never. Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
-Original Message- From: Stephen Wille Padnos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 November 2008 10:20 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] internet connection] Dave Houghton wrote: >[snip] >Question: What is the main difference between a rocket engine and a jet >engine? Come on have a guess. > > Well, it's off-topic, but I'll bite. :) The difference is where the oxidizer comes from (carried with the fuel or from an external air intake) - Steve Hi Steve. Gee you are you close, but no cigar, not really where the oxidizer comes from. A jet engine could carry it's own oxygen supply. You are so close - more simple. Jet engines away have this; rocket engines never. Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 05:57:39PM -0200, Richard Acosta wrote: > Ok, i really pissed off, This is the wrong approach when asking for people to help you. Everyone here volunteers their help. > Sorry for this, people you have been very kind If you still need more help the best thing you could do is VERY clearly describe your situation and the current problems. The best way to do this would be: 1. Make your entire configuration available online somewhere, or tar it up and attach it to your next message 2. Say what version of the software you are using and what errors you are getting. Support for this card is very new and it's possible all the bugs are not worked out yet. If you do not have the time or patience for helping with that, there are other products from several different manufacturers, including Mesa, that are very stable and are in daily use on many machines. Maybe one of those would be a better fit for you? If you want to help work out any remaining problems with the card, you ought to build TRUNK and test with that. Then you can work with Seb closely to iron things out. Here are the instructions for that. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2#Getting_the_source_with_CVS - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
Dave Houghton wrote: >[snip] >Question: What is the main difference between a rocket engine and a jet >engine? Come on have a guess. > > Well, it's off-topic, but I'll bite. :) The difference is where the oxidizer comes from (carried with the fuel or from an external air intake) - Steve - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
John wrote> So, have you read the FAQ at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/?WvDial ? Regards, John Kasunich Hello John Yes I did - didn't find it very useful. What's more there are no FAQ's on that site it links you to other sites, most of which are just selling their wares. I have been on quite a few sites regarding my modem Huawei E220 (Vodacom in SA) and one important fact is the Vodacom download for Ubuntu (to make it work) does not work with Ubuntu8.04 - works with earlier versions but not 8.04. There's a thing. I've also looked on the Ubuntu site 100,s of "E220 don't work on Ubuntu8.04" Seems after a few interchanges some just give up. Most of the instructions don't work. Many reasons. One guy however (and definitely not a computer fundy) has written a really good "How to .." it is very easy to understand and follow. One more thing, he wrote it in a chronological order, now that's the way to do it. I went on the Ubuntu forum with my partition problem nearly two weeks ago, still there unsolved, had quite a few responses, although you have keep on reminding them, but it is still there unsolved. It was solved here (on this forum) mainly by Jon Elson not because he knows more than them (although he may) but because he CARES. So there ends to day lesson - gosh I feel better. Best wishes Dave Question: What is the main difference between a rocket engine and a jet engine? Come on have a guess. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kitamura
Those are the same motors as the Kitamura MyCenter 0 here. Is that what you have? Do you have the Kitamura 1000 controls or the Yasnac controls? The motors are AC servos with encoders. The encoders go to the servo amp, which makes a copy of them to send on the the CNC controller. The encoders are high resolution, probably 2000 line, 8000 count. The servo driver probably supports pulse, analog velocity, and analog torque commands. I think this machine uses analog but don't have a guess if it is velocity or torque. The manuals with mine included block level diagrams with cable and connector designations, but no actual schematic. Cheers, Steve Stallings > -Original Message- > From: Alpha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:55 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Kitamura > > > What have so far is Sanyo Servo Drives. I don't have any info on > them, but here are the numbers. If anyone know where I can get > the tech-info please let me know > > 2OB15OFFWB4 > 65BA030DXT06 > 65BA030DXT04 > > -You need to inventory some of the existing hardware. What type of > motors, and what are their specs? > What condition are the servo amps in, and what type are they, what > signals do they take? > What type of position feedback does it have, and what are the specs > there? (Resolver, shaft encoder, linear encoder?) > > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move > Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win > great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in > the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43
Ok, i really pissed off, i have bought something i cant use. I have been trying to do something with this crappy card and all i get is error this, error that, no clear info, no clear manuals, i have asked for help and i have 3 different versions of what should i do, and... none has worked. Mesa sends me to EMC2 Boards, since it looks they have not a clue on how to make their own board work. Here on my country, we are 2 people having the same issue, and seeking info. by dfferent ways, but... nothing. I have read some messages about SUCCESS from Peter C. Wallace, Sebastian Kuzminsky and Ted Hyde, but i cant' follow them, because it seems i have not received some of their messages. Also it seems they are using different commands than the ones i've been told to use...¿? So please, is there anyone who has a WORKING hal file for this board for use with servos?, i need to make this thing work or else i'll throw it away and start with origami. Sorry for this, people you have been very kind but i'm really tired of getting to nowhere. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Home Switches
Here's the page I always refer to when emc's DRO shows something different than what I expect: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?CoordinateSystems#So_if_you_re_lost_what_should_you_do Jeff - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
Dave Houghton wrote: > > Sorry, no modem was detected! Is it in use by another program? > Did you configure it properly with setserial? > > Please read the FAQ at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/?WvDial > So, have you read the FAQ at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/?WvDial ? Regards, John Kasunich - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Home Switches
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 12:10:33PM -0600, Len Shelton wrote: > Thanks. That worked. Any idea how it got set? This is a brand new install > and I am not at all new to EMC2. Depends - you don't say which kind of offset it turns out it was. If it was G54, you set it with touch off or G10 L2 P1 Z... If it was G92, you set it with G92. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Kitamura
What have so far is Sanyo Servo Drives. I don't have any info on them, but here are the numbers. If anyone know where I can get the tech-info please let me know 2OB15OFFWB4 65BA030DXT06 65BA030DXT04 -You need to inventory some of the existing hardware. What type of motors, and what are their specs? What condition are the servo amps in, and what type are they, what signals do they take? What type of position feedback does it have, and what are the specs there? (Resolver, shaft encoder, linear encoder?) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Home Switches
Thanks. That worked. Any idea how it got set? This is a brand new install and I am not at all new to EMC2. >Len -Original Message- From: Chris Radek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:51 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Home Switches On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 11:17:19AM -0600, Len Shelton wrote: > I am trying to setup a new machine with EMC2 and Axis using home switches. > Everything seems to be working fine, except that "z" sets itself to 8.5202 > after homing. > > Even though I have: > > HOME = 0.0 > HOME_OFFSET = 0.00 > > Where is it pulling this 8.5202? I can find no reference to any number like > that anywhere in the config files. You have a work offset or a G92 offset. To clear the work offset, Machine / Zero coordinate system / G54 (or home and then Touch Off zero) and then be sure to read about "Touch Off" in the user manual since you will have to understand how to use work offsets now that you have homing. Looks like sections 2.2.1 and 2.3.4.1 are relevant although a little lean. To clear a G92 offset, program G92.1 in MDI. (In the upcoming EMC2.3 you will be able to clear G92 offsets in the Machine/Zero... menu also.) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Home Switches
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 11:17:19AM -0600, Len Shelton wrote: > I am trying to setup a new machine with EMC2 and Axis using home switches. > Everything seems to be working fine, except that "z" sets itself to 8.5202 > after homing. > > Even though I have: > > HOME = 0.0 > HOME_OFFSET = 0.00 > > Where is it pulling this 8.5202? I can find no reference to any number like > that anywhere in the config files. You have a work offset or a G92 offset. To clear the work offset, Machine / Zero coordinate system / G54 (or home and then Touch Off zero) and then be sure to read about "Touch Off" in the user manual since you will have to understand how to use work offsets now that you have homing. Looks like sections 2.2.1 and 2.3.4.1 are relevant although a little lean. To clear a G92 offset, program G92.1 in MDI. (In the upcoming EMC2.3 you will be able to clear G92 offsets in the Machine/Zero... menu also.) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
-Original Message- From: Dave Houghton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 November 2008 07:22 PM To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] internet connection] -Original Message- From: Dave Houghton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 November 2008 03:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] internet connection] Marh wrote> Dave That means that wvdial is installed. I do not know why wvdialconf did not work, but here is a workaround. My satellite link keeps going down due to a thunderstorm, so it may take awhile to respond. Dave, copy/paste the following in a terminal, and let me know what the output is: sudo mv /etc/wvdial.conf /etc/wvdial.conf.orig sudo cat >/etc/wvdial.conf <: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 9600 baud ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 115200 baud ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up. ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 9600 baud ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 115200 baud ttyS1<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up. Modem Port Scan<*1>: S2 S3 USB0 ttyUSB1: Exec format error Modem Port Scan<*1>: USB1 ttyUSB2: Exec format error Modem Port Scan<*1>: USB2 Sorry, no modem was detected! Is it in use by another program? Did you configure it properly with setserial? Please read the FAQ at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/?WvDial If you still have problems, send mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Regards Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Home Switches
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 11:17 -0600, Len Shelton wrote: > I am trying to setup a new machine with EMC2 and Axis using home switches. > Everything seems to be working fine, except that "z" sets itself to 8.5202 > after homing. > > Even though I have: > > HOME = 0.0 > HOME_OFFSET = 0.00 > > Where is it pulling this 8.5202? I can find no reference to any number like > that anywhere in the config files. I'd guess that it's in the var file that is being read at startup. Could be a g92 or one of the coordinate offset systems. The var file contents are described in the user handbook in the coordinate systems chapter. I don't remember much about it but the AXIS interface system can also be setup to remember last position between runs for those who don't have home switches. I wouldn't think this would be the case but others would have to figure that out. Rayh - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Home Switches
Do a 'g92 z0' after you home the machine. This will reset the position. Restart to confirm. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Len Shelton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:17:19 To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\)' Subject: [Emc-users] Home Switches I am trying to setup a new machine with EMC2 and Axis using home switches. Everything seems to be working fine, except that "z" sets itself to 8.5202 after homing. Even though I have: HOME = 0.0 HOME_OFFSET = 0.00 Where is it pulling this 8.5202? I can find no reference to any number like that anywhere in the config files. >Len - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] internet connection]
-Original Message- From: Dave Houghton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 November 2008 03:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] internet connection] Marh wrote> Dave That means that wvdial is installed. I do not know why wvdialconf did not work, but here is a workaround. My satellite link keeps going down due to a thunderstorm, so it may take awhile to respond. Dave, copy/paste the following in a terminal, and let me know what the output is: sudo mv /etc/wvdial.conf /etc/wvdial.conf.orig sudo cat >/etc/wvdial.conf
[Emc-users] Home Switches
I am trying to setup a new machine with EMC2 and Axis using home switches. Everything seems to be working fine, except that "z" sets itself to 8.5202 after homing. Even though I have: HOME = 0.0 HOME_OFFSET = 0.00 Where is it pulling this 8.5202? I can find no reference to any number like that anywhere in the config files. >Len - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Sound broke on Ubuntu 8.04LTS after installing EMC
Some hardware requires that you install the package linux-ubuntu-modules-hardy-rtai to work. Jeff - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 13:34 -0200, Jimmy Schneiderman wrote: > Dear Tomp, > > Where are located linear accelation parameter per linear axis and where is > located the single radial accelation parameter for all angular axis in the > LinuxCNC Program? > > Regards, > Jimmy EMC2 is configured by the .ini file which then calls other configuration files. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//config_ini_config.html Generally, the configuration files are in a directory under the machine configuration name, such as: /home/your_username/emc2/config_name/... The .ini file will have the acceleration settings, and will look like this... " [TRAJ] AXES = 3 COORDINATES = X Y Z HOME = 0 0 0 LINEAR_UNITS = 0.03937007874016 ANGULAR_UNITS = 1.0 CYCLE_TIME =0.010 DEFAULT_VELOCITY = 0.50 # units/second MAX_VELOCITY = 4.0 # units/second DEFAULT_ACCELERATION = 3.0<---<<< # units/second^2 MAX_ACCELERATION = 7.0<---<<< # units/second^2 PROBE_INDEX = 0 PROBE_POLARITY =1 POSITION_FILE = position.txt # Axes sections --- # First axis [AXIS_0] TYPE = LINEAR UNITS = 0.03937007874016 HOME = 0.000 MAX_VELOCITY = 3.0 MAX_ACCELERATION = 6.0<---<<< PID_MAX_VEL = 100 BACKLASH = 0.000 ... FF1 = 0.25 FF2 = 0.002 # Second axis [AXIS_1] ... " I don't recall seeing a provision for a radial acceleration. It may be calculated from the axes settings. If you are comfortable with C, you may be able to read the source code to see how motion is handled. (shot in the dark links) http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/lxr/source/src/emc/kinematics/ http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/lxr/source/src/emc/motion/ http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/lxr/source/src/emc/ Kirk http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/index.html - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Acceleration
Dear Tomp, Where are located linear accelation parameter per linear axis and where is located the single radial accelation parameter for all angular axis in the LinuxCNC Program? Regards, Jimmy 2008/11/7, tomp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Jeff Epler wrote: > > For trivial kinematics machines, emc should always stay within the > > inifile acceleration limits. If it doesn't, there's a bug. > > > > The main acceleration-related difference I recall for arcs is that > > the centripetal acceleration required to follow the arc may affect the > > maximum attainable velocity. > > > > Can you be more specific about what behavior you're looking for, and why > > it's important? > > > > Jeff > > > > - > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the > world > > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > often, cnc's have linear acc parameter per linear axis > and > have a single radial acc parameter for all angular axis > > regards > tomp > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Partition problem
Jon wrote> Oh, I'd **DEFINITELY** leave it alone. You can't just delete these partitions and have the Ubuntu partitions take up the additional space as empty. There are some programs that are supposed to be able to re-jigger partitions, I would not trust them with anything I'd spent much time on. Maybe sometime you will want to reinstall the whole works, after burning all your hand-made files to a CD. That would be the time to clear out these old partitions and start fresh. Jon Hi Jon I understand, "DO NOT TOUCH" although I would not know what to do anyway. This is where being computer dumb really comes in handy stops me fiddling. I appreciate everyone's input my thanks especially to Jon. This matter is SOLVED. Best wishes Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] man.pages
Gene wtote> "man.pages", NDI. There are man pages on almost anything in the *nix world, and to access one of them, like the man page for 'ls', one does, from an open shell/terminal "man ls". 'man' is the reader, and 'ls' means its to find and display the help file for the 'ls' command. Some commands may require root access to read them just like running the command itself. There are also 'info' files which are similar, although to me 'info' is busted, but 'pinfo' seems to work just fine. Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Where's the Coke machine? Tell me a joke!! Hi Gene The above info is really very useful, I appreciate every ones input. Thank you Gene you asked the question: Why use windows when there is a door? I've found an answer - 'sometimes a door can be ajar' (a jar) :-) Keep smiling Dave - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Sound broke on Ubuntu 8.04LTS after installing EMC
Yes, this is a little thing, but I am trying to get CAMBAM to work on the same machine, using wine and mono. But when I start cambam it whines that there is no sound device. I look in /dev and that is true. I boot from the Ubuntu 8.04LTS Live CD and it works fine. I have not burned and tried the 8.04 EMC Live CD yet. Rather than re-install, I would rather fix it. Suggestions? - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] vismach machines
Gentlemen, I put two tar files in www.mpm1.com:8080/tar. These are 5axbcbridge.tar and 5axhydrotel.tar. They contain the files to run simulated machines. Someone with commit access is welcome to grab them, evaluate them, change them as necessary and then commit them. comments, suggestions, critiques thanks Stuart - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
