Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[andy pugh]

On 16 August 2017 at 23:05, Eric H. Johnson  wrote:

> Odd thing that I have to check, I thought sure that I was using a 200k 7i43, 
> but is being recognized as a 400k.

This was a very unusual problem caused by excessive hubris and someone
thinking that they could fix a bug in the 7i43 driver without having a
7i43 to test it on.
Most other developers have more sense.

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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Eric H. Johnson]

Andy, Sebastian,

Thanks much, is working now. I will not update again until 2.8 is released.

Odd thing that I have to check, I thought sure that I was using a 200k 7i43, 
but is being recognized as a 400k.

Done for today, will check tomorrow.

Thanks again,
Eric


On August 16, 2017 4:50:31 PM EDT, Sebastian Kuzminsky  wrote:
>On 08/16/2017 02:38 PM, Eric H. Johnson wrote:
>> Andy,
>>
>> I am afraid I do not entirely follow. Does that mean that build is
>available, or still rebuilding?
>>
>> I am showing
>> 1:2.8.0-pre1.3305.gde345856d
>> as both the installed and latest version. It still locks up when I
>try to use the hostmot drivers.
>
>Version 2.8.0-pre1.3305.gde345856d is the most recent completed build
>of 
>the master (2.8~pre branch), as of 14:50 MDT.  This version has the
>bug.
>
>The buildbot is currently building v2.8.0-pre1-3308-g510e1a9, which has
>
>the fix.  This new build should be ready within the hour.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Eric H. Johnson]

Sebastian,

Ok, thank you.

After playing with it a bit the lockup went away. It just either won't talk to 
the parallel port, or tells me I have the wrong board (200k vs. 400k) although 
I have one of each 

Regards,
Eric


On August 16, 2017 4:50:31 PM EDT, Sebastian Kuzminsky  wrote:
>On 08/16/2017 02:38 PM, Eric H. Johnson wrote:
>> Andy,
>>
>> I am afraid I do not entirely follow. Does that mean that build is
>available, or still rebuilding?
>>
>> I am showing
>> 1:2.8.0-pre1.3305.gde345856d
>> as both the installed and latest version. It still locks up when I
>try to use the hostmot drivers.
>
>Version 2.8.0-pre1.3305.gde345856d is the most recent completed build
>of 
>the master (2.8~pre branch), as of 14:50 MDT.  This version has the
>bug.
>
>The buildbot is currently building v2.8.0-pre1-3308-g510e1a9, which has
>
>the fix.  This new build should be ready within the hour.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Sebastian Kuzminsky]

On 08/16/2017 02:38 PM, Eric H. Johnson wrote:

Andy,

I am afraid I do not entirely follow. Does that mean that build is available, 
or still rebuilding?

I am showing
1:2.8.0-pre1.3305.gde345856d
as both the installed and latest version. It still locks up when I try to use 
the hostmot drivers.


Version 2.8.0-pre1.3305.gde345856d is the most recent completed build of 
the master (2.8~pre branch), as of 14:50 MDT.  This version has the bug.


The buildbot is currently building v2.8.0-pre1-3308-g510e1a9, which has 
the fix.  This new build should be ready within the hour.



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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Eric H. Johnson]

Andy,

I am afraid I do not entirely follow. Does that mean that build is available, 
or still rebuilding?

I am showing
1:2.8.0-pre1.3305.gde345856d
as both the installed and latest version. It still locks up when I try to use 
the hostmot drivers.

Thanks,
Eric


On August 16, 2017 4:15:06 PM EDT, andy pugh  wrote:
>On 16 August 2017 at 21:09, andy pugh  wrote:
>
You want 1:2.8.0~pre1.3305.gde34585
>
>If you want to watch it happening:
>http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/waterfall
>
>Your .deb is way over to the right.
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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[andy pugh]

On 16 August 2017 at 21:09, andy pugh  wrote:

>>>You want 1:2.8.0~pre1.3305.gde34585

If you want to watch it happening:
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/waterfall

Your .deb is way over to the right.

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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[andy pugh]

On 16 August 2017 at 20:43, Eric H. Johnson  wrote:

> I have a 6d on the end of gde...,

Yes,

>>You want 1:2.8.0~pre1.3305.gde34585



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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Eric H. Johnson]

Andy,

I have a 6d on the end of gde..., but otherwise the same. Still locking up when 
using the hostmot drivers.

Sims work, as does parport | stepper-inch.

Thanks,
Eric

On August 16, 2017 3:32:48 PM EDT, andy pugh  wrote:
>On 16 August 2017 at 20:17, Eric H. Johnson 
>wrote:
>> Andy,
>>
>> Yes, I see 3305, so I am waiting for that to increment, right?
>
>You want 1:2.8.0~pre1.3305.gde34585
>(If I am reading things right)
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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[andy pugh]

On 16 August 2017 at 20:17, Eric H. Johnson  wrote:
> Andy,
>
> Yes, I see 3305, so I am waiting for that to increment, right?

You want 1:2.8.0~pre1.3305.gde34585
(If I am reading things right)

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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Eric H. Johnson]

Andy,

Yes, I see 3305, so I am waiting for that to increment, right?

Thanks,
Eric


On August 16, 2017 2:22:54 PM EDT, andy pugh  wrote:
>On 16 August 2017 at 18:48, Eric H. Johnson 
>wrote:
>> Sebastian,
>>
>> My sources.list file reads as follows:
>> deb http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ precise master-rt
>> deb-src http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ precise master-rt
>
>
>This is master / 2.8 and that is what you want.
>
>If you look in the Synaptic package manager you will see
>1:2.8.0~pre1.3305.gde345856d at the moment, the fix should be in the
>next one.
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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Dewey Garrett]

It might be helpful if folks were more precise in
describing version names.

The git master branch VERSION file is 2.8.0~pre1
as recorded in this file:

  https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/VERSION

This VERSION is reported to stdout by the axis gui
and appears in the in the window border as well.
(I didn't test other guis).

As i understand it, the '~pre1' indicates it is a
pre-release developmental branch and there is NO
version 2.8 nor a plan or timeline for such its
release.

It concerns me that numerous folks use or advise
using the master branch (or developmental branches
based on it) without fully understanding that it
is a developmental branch and may 1) change
without user notification, 2) has no mandate for
exact backwards compatibility, and 3) may
occasionally break user configs (or worse) due to
incompatibilities or bugs.

It seems to me that users of such branches need to
monitor commit activity and be aware of the risks
taken with unreviewed updates to their systems.

The GitHub page for LinuxCNC has a link for the
"Latest commit" but i don't know if there is a
way to be informed automatically at each commit.

Developers try to describe updates in the devel
(master) docs:

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/getting-started/updating-linuxcnc.html

For feature branches, the docs built by the
buildbot are available for an interval after
building at:

http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/doc/

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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[andy pugh]

On 16 August 2017 at 18:48, Eric H. Johnson  wrote:
> Sebastian,
>
> My sources.list file reads as follows:
> deb http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ precise master-rt
> deb-src http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ precise master-rt


This is master / 2.8 and that is what you want.

If you look in the Synaptic package manager you will see
1:2.8.0~pre1.3305.gde345856d at the moment, the fix should be in the next one.

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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Eric H. Johnson]

Sebastian,

My sources.list file reads as follows:
deb http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ precise master-rt
deb-src http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ precise master-rt
deb http://linuxcnc.org/ precise base 2.7-rtai
deb-src http://linuxcnc.org/ precise base 2.7-rtai


The sources.list.d folder is empty. Apologize for any typos, did not have an 
easy way to transfer the text to my phone.

Thanks,
Eric

On August 16, 2017 1:08:52 PM EDT, "Eric H. Johnson"  
wrote:
>Sebastian,
>
>Which version introduced opposing motor gantry support? Was that 2.7,
>and because I had 2.7 pre installed I inadvertently upgraded to 2.8
>pre?
>
>It is an RTAI build as I had the 7i43-small configuration working fine.
>
>I will try what you say, I would just like confirmation that I am using
>the version with gantry support, which I thought had been released.
>
>Thanks,
>Eric
>
>On August 16, 2017 12:30:41 PM EDT, Sebastian Kuzminsky
> wrote:
>>On 08/16/2017 09:57 AM, Eric H. Johnson wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I installed linuxcnc 2.8.0-pre to Xubuntu 12.04, and was running for
>>> some time. I seemed to have upgraded something I should not. The sim
>>> configurations worked, but the default 7i43-small just locks up with
>>> no error message. Nothing responds. Can only power off computer.
>>
>>That's terrible!  What version of linuxcnc were you running?  Was this
>
>>an RTAI build?
>>
>>
>>> I tried apt-get remove of linuxcnc and then apt-get install, but
>>> following that, even the sims do not work.
>>>
>>> How do I completely remove 2.8.0-pre and install 2.8 released?
>>
>>2.8 has not been released yet.  2.7 is the latest stable release, is 
>>that what you want?
>>
>>To get that you have to do this:
>>
>>* Edit your apt sources in /etc/apt/sources.list and 
>>/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list, find the line that gets 2.8 debs from 
>>the linuxcnc buildbot, and comment it out.  Also make sure you have a 
>>line that gets 2.7 debs, either from www.linuxcnc.org (if you only
>want
>>
>>the officially released 2.7 builds) or from the buildbot (if you want 
>>the "developer" builds of 2.7 that come in between the official
>>releases).
>>
>>* Run "apt-get update" to refresh your machine's list of available
>>packages.
>>
>>* Manually remove the 2.8~pre debs and install the 2.7 debs.  The 
>>easiest way to do this is probably "apt-get remove linuxcnc" (to
>remove
>>
>>whatever version you currently have installed) followed by "apt-get 
>>install linuxcnc" (to install the latest known version, which should
>>now 
>>be 2.7).
>>
>>
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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Eric H. Johnson]

Andy, Sebastian,

I am unfortunately at the shop and can only get Internet through my phone. So I 
am running half blind as far as Lcnc doc. Which version do I need to run that 
supports gantry homing with opposing motors (added JOINT section to the ini 
file).

It is that version I need to get back to, which when I did it was only 
available in pre. I thought that version was now released.

Thanks,
Eric


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>On 16 August 2017 at 17:30, Sebastian Kuzminsky 
>wrote:
>
>> That's terrible!  What version of linuxcnc were you running?  Was
>this an
>> RTAI build?
>
>This is probably my fault.
>
>https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/commit/036bdd6eccc42ac8c878e54dce1343f58454f2f9
>
>I thought that I had time to get some hardware to properly test it on,
>as I pushed it to 2.7 and forgot that it would eventually merge up to
>2.8.
>(my thinking was that as long as I got it fixed before the next 2.7
>release it would be OK)
>
>Anyway, I have reverted it in 2.7 and hopefully it will merge up to
>Master soon.
>
>Very sorry for the inconvenience.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Eric H. Johnson]

Andy,

I will wait.

Do I then just need to do an ap-get install?

Thanks,
Eric

On August 16, 2017 1:49:47 PM EDT, andy pugh  wrote:
>On 16 August 2017 at 18:08, Eric H. Johnson 
>wrote:
>
>> Which version introduced opposing motor gantry support? Was that 2.7,
>and because I had 2.7 pre installed I inadvertently upgraded to 2.8
>pre?
>
>It was master / 2.8.
>
>You do need 2.8, your configs won't work with 2.7.
>
>The buildbot is working on a fixed version of 2.8 at this very moment.
>You should be able to pick it up through the package manager in an
>hour or less.
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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[andy pugh]

On 16 August 2017 at 18:08, Eric H. Johnson  wrote:

> Which version introduced opposing motor gantry support? Was that 2.7, and 
> because I had 2.7 pre installed I inadvertently upgraded to 2.8 pre?

It was master / 2.8.

You do need 2.8, your configs won't work with 2.7.

The buildbot is working on a fixed version of 2.8 at this very moment.
You should be able to pick it up through the package manager in an
hour or less.

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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[andy pugh]

On 16 August 2017 at 17:30, Sebastian Kuzminsky  wrote:

> That's terrible!  What version of linuxcnc were you running?  Was this an
> RTAI build?

This is probably my fault.

https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/commit/036bdd6eccc42ac8c878e54dce1343f58454f2f9

I thought that I had time to get some hardware to properly test it on,
as I pushed it to 2.7 and forgot that it would eventually merge up to
2.8.
(my thinking was that as long as I got it fixed before the next 2.7
release it would be OK)

Anyway, I have reverted it in 2.7 and hopefully it will merge up to
Master soon.

Very sorry for the inconvenience.

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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Eric H. Johnson]

Sebastian,

Which version introduced opposing motor gantry support? Was that 2.7, and 
because I had 2.7 pre installed I inadvertently upgraded to 2.8 pre?

It is an RTAI build as I had the 7i43-small configuration working fine.

I will try what you say, I would just like confirmation that I am using the 
version with gantry support, which I thought had been released.

Thanks,
Eric

On August 16, 2017 12:30:41 PM EDT, Sebastian Kuzminsky  
wrote:
>On 08/16/2017 09:57 AM, Eric H. Johnson wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> I installed linuxcnc 2.8.0-pre to Xubuntu 12.04, and was running for
>> some time. I seemed to have upgraded something I should not. The sim
>> configurations worked, but the default 7i43-small just locks up with
>> no error message. Nothing responds. Can only power off computer.
>
>That's terrible!  What version of linuxcnc were you running?  Was this 
>an RTAI build?
>
>
>> I tried apt-get remove of linuxcnc and then apt-get install, but
>> following that, even the sims do not work.
>>
>> How do I completely remove 2.8.0-pre and install 2.8 released?
>
>2.8 has not been released yet.  2.7 is the latest stable release, is 
>that what you want?
>
>To get that you have to do this:
>
>* Edit your apt sources in /etc/apt/sources.list and 
>/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list, find the line that gets 2.8 debs from 
>the linuxcnc buildbot, and comment it out.  Also make sure you have a 
>line that gets 2.7 debs, either from www.linuxcnc.org (if you only want
>
>the officially released 2.7 builds) or from the buildbot (if you want 
>the "developer" builds of 2.7 that come in between the official
>releases).
>
>* Run "apt-get update" to refresh your machine's list of available
>packages.
>
>* Manually remove the 2.8~pre debs and install the 2.7 debs.  The 
>easiest way to do this is probably "apt-get remove linuxcnc" (to remove
>
>whatever version you currently have installed) followed by "apt-get 
>install linuxcnc" (to install the latest known version, which should
>now 
>be 2.7).
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Sebastian Kuzminsky]

On 08/16/2017 09:57 AM, Eric H. Johnson wrote:

All,

I installed linuxcnc 2.8.0-pre to Xubuntu 12.04, and was running for
some time. I seemed to have upgraded something I should not. The sim
configurations worked, but the default 7i43-small just locks up with
no error message. Nothing responds. Can only power off computer.


That's terrible!  What version of linuxcnc were you running?  Was this 
an RTAI build?




I tried apt-get remove of linuxcnc and then apt-get install, but
following that, even the sims do not work.

How do I completely remove 2.8.0-pre and install 2.8 released?


2.8 has not been released yet.  2.7 is the latest stable release, is 
that what you want?


To get that you have to do this:

* Edit your apt sources in /etc/apt/sources.list and 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list, find the line that gets 2.8 debs from 
the linuxcnc buildbot, and comment it out.  Also make sure you have a 
line that gets 2.7 debs, either from www.linuxcnc.org (if you only want 
the officially released 2.7 builds) or from the buildbot (if you want 
the "developer" builds of 2.7 that come in between the official releases).


* Run "apt-get update" to refresh your machine's list of available packages.

* Manually remove the 2.8~pre debs and install the 2.7 debs.  The 
easiest way to do this is probably "apt-get remove linuxcnc" (to remove 
whatever version you currently have installed) followed by "apt-get 
install linuxcnc" (to install the latest known version, which should now 
be 2.7).



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[Emc-users] Upgrade 2.8.0 pre to 2.8

[Eric H. Johnson]

All,

I installed linuxcnc 2.8.0-pre to Xubuntu 12.04, and was running for some time. 
I seemed to have upgraded something I should not. The sim configurations 
worked, but the default 7i43-small just locks up with no error message. Nothing 
responds. Can only power off computer.

I tried apt-get remove of linuxcnc and then apt-get install, but following 
that, even the sims do not work.

How do I completely remove 2.8.0-pre and install 2.8 released?

Thanks,
Eric

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[Emc-users] Random Tool changer issue/Bug

[robert - Innovative-RC]

Hi

using the machine today i noticed a little odd bug,
this only happens on a machine with random changer and non random does 
not see this bug


when you abort a program with a pre called tool, and run press start 
again, the machine will see first M6 and do a tool change regardless of 
the first T word, see test program below

this happens on 2.7 and checked on pre2.8 still the same

run this problem
g91 g28 z0
t1 m6
t2 g90 g00 g43 h1 z100. (abort here or after it)
g04 p20.
g91 g28 z0
t2 m6
m30

if you run this program, abort on line 3 or after it, then resun it, the 
tool will be changed for Tool 2
its like the precall takes priority , and line 2's T1 has no effect 
untill M6 is carried out


on a non ramdon tool changer machine this bug is not seen running this 
same program


maybe someone can check this, not sure where to look for this bug code wise

rob


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