Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
Raif Sarcich wrote: if you run top - is somehting wrong. is e like usign up 2gb of ram? or is somehting eatign cpu? if so - what? or eating ram The crash happened again yesterday and i have attached the output from top during that crash. No major RAM eating going on, but the enlightenment process was using between 61-65% cpu. And as per previous crashes, I could not kill -9 enlightenment, but was able to switch to a terminal, shut down the computer, etc, whilst there was continuous flickering disk activity. I think it was frozen bubble (!) that I was using when it crashed this time, but konqueror was open. How old is the version of frozen-bubble? I can recall specific instances where it would lock up and really eat up cpu. I don't see that anymore on later versions. I've even tried to reproduce it. One other thing you might consider. It could be remotely possible that our kill attempt hasn't had time to get to the process you're trying to kill. I've seen attempts at trying to kill a process take a good while when cpu usage is high. If you can reproduce the problem, try killing frozen-bubble first. As long as you're not running out of memory, just wait a while and see if it eventually goes away. I know that when I was having the problem with frozen-bubble, it was very specific. This happened only in chain_reaction mode as follows: 1. A marble that I had just brought down was returning up (because of the chain_reaction mode) and it was going to finish the marbles left. 2. I attempted to fire another marble whilst the aforementioned marble was returning up. Unless you've used the chain_reaction mode, you may not understand what I've just said. Check it out though, it makes for a faster game. :) -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
if you run top - is somehting wrong. is e like usign up 2gb of ram? or is somehting eatign cpu? if so - what? or eating ram The crash happened again yesterday and i have attached the output from top during that crash. No major RAM eating going on, but the enlightenment process was using between 61-65% cpu. And as per previous crashes, I could not kill -9 enlightenment, but was able to switch to a terminal, shut down the computer, etc, whilst there was continuous flickering disk activity. I think it was frozen bubble (!) that I was using when it crashed this time, but konqueror was open. Raif Sarcich --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:44:20 +0800 Raif Sarcich [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: if you run top - is somehting wrong. is e like usign up 2gb of ram? or is somehting eatign cpu? if so - what? or eating ram The crash happened again yesterday and i have attached the output from top during that crash. No major RAM eating going on, but the enlightenment process was using between 61-65% cpu. And as per previous crashes, I could not kill -9 enlightenment, but was able to switch to a terminal, shut down the computer, etc, whilst there was continuous flickering disk activity. I think it was frozen bubble (!) that I was using when it crashed this time, but konqueror was open. hmm - no attachment. next time can u gdb attach to e and find out whats up - if u can't kill -9 e - thats actualyl a kernel problem. kill -9 kilsl a process if it likes it or not - it has no choice, UNLESS its stuck in a kernel syscall and the kernel will not let it die - if e is eating 65% cpu then its strange u CANt kill -9 - are u sure u were kill -9'ing the right PID? Raif Sarcich --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
RE: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
I haven’t got problems with disk or unusual messages in my logs. I try with another wm and I’ve got the same problem, so I’ll stop boring you with this problem and try to solve it by an other way. Thanks for the advices, Stephane De: roland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé: jeudi 19 janvier 2006 06:04 À: Stéphane Joguet Cc: 'Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)'; 'Raif Sarcich'; enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net Objet: Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp Stéphane Joguet wrote: Hello,I'm not sure but i think i've got the same problem.I noticed that firefox, gimp or Eterm take a long time to start, and use 100% of CPU and when the window is up i've got the bar title blinking in red.It happens more with firefox, when I try to use a menu or when I type an address or use google search, the title bar blink in red and it take a very long time to show me the page or the result of the search.I'm on a gentoo linux with e17 compile from CVS (sourceforge).I use firefox 1.0.7, the same problem with 1.5.Hope this help...Regards,Stéphane-Message d'origine-De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] De la part de Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)Envoyé : mercredi 18 janvier 2006 05:37À : Raif SarcichCc : enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.netObjet : Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xpOn Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:01:34 +0800 Raif Sarcich [EMAIL PROTECTED]babbled: Afraid so. Now, as the disk access thing hasn't been reported by the others,it could be a different problem. Whatever's going on isn't locking up the system, but is interfering with itin a major way. When this happens:* I can kill X and switch to a term and type into it, do standard operations,but the process is slow because of the constant disk access. Also, theterminal misses many keystrokes, presumably those which occur when theprocess is performing some operation.* I can bring X back up, but once again, very slow and consistentlyinterrupted.* I can still and move the mouse, and last time it happened i was able tomanipulate the menus of the Links browser in an xterm with the mouse. Icannot manipulate any GUI controls though, whether part of e or qt or gtk. * As noted, the enlightenment process is unkillable. Still, the computermanages to shut down cleanly without protest. if you run top - is somehting wrong. is e like usign up 2gb of ram? or issomehting eatign cpu? if so - what? or eating ram My distro is Suse 10, and it's running on a compaq presario laptop with an ATIgraphics chip, using the radeon driver in xorg.conf.I tend to use mainly kde apps, and though i can't be sure, it does usuallyseem to be konqueror that i'm using when this happens, though it's frozenusing firefox as well ... i'm sorry i can't be more precise, as even whenusing firefox, konqueror was probably open. I can't reproduce it at will,unfortunately. Hope this helps. The freeze doesn't happen often, maybe once every four orfive days, and i'm enjoying using e17. Thanks for your hard work. i do know there are freezes in X itself with some drivers (i have found withthe ati fglrx closed drivers theres a nasty hang - happens with somecombinations of renderng ops - its nto an e or firefox issue, but somehow bothcan trigger it and when that happens x consumes 100% cpu and u have to kill -9x) but why e is not killable - see above. is it eating ram or something? RaifQuoting Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:54:09 +0800 Raif Sarcich [EMAIL PROTECTED]babbled: I can report i have had this problem too - usually associated with Konqueror or Kontact. An additional symptom is a continually flickering HD LEDthereafter until I do a reboot, and the enlightenment process is impossible to kill -9 even after killing the X server. I will have to see if it hasanything to do with drag-and-drop now. what - even kill -9 doesnt work? Raif SarcichQuoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keepdrawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) =20 I can reproduice that easily with an dragdrop operation with efm. e17 free= zes immediately.=0A=0A=0A=0AJetzt Handykosten senken mit klarmobil - 14 Ct./Min.! Hier kli= cken=0Awww.klarmobil.de/index.html?pid=3D73025=0A---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makessearching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642___enlightenment-users mailing listenlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.nethttps
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
On Wednesday, 18 January 2006 at 23:15:59 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: hmm - ok - sounds like a input device grab that's hung. if this happenes again try: CTRL+ALT+Divide(on the numberpad) or if you want the x client that has the grab killed (in this case e will get killed if e has it grabbed and thus your login session may end) do: CTRL+ALT+Multiply(on the numberpad) Today it froze again, i had nothing open but firefox and Eterm. nothing was running in Eterm and firefox was on slackware homepage, no animations nothing. just froze there. no ctrl+alt+Multiply or anything would help. no reaction to keyboard. All i can do is turn off the power. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
Eric Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, 18 January 2006 at 23:15:59 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: hmm - ok - sounds like a input device grab that's hung. if this happenes again try: CTRL+ALT+Divide(on the numberpad) or if you want the x client that has the grab killed (in this case e will get killed if e has it grabbed and thus your login session may end) do: CTRL+ALT+Multiply(on the numberpad) Today it froze again, i had nothing open but firefox and Eterm. nothing was running in Eterm and firefox was on slackware homepage, no animations nothing. just froze there. no ctrl+alt+Multiply or anything would help. no reaction to keyboard. All i can do is turn off the power. Are you sure that it isn't X what hangs? A few weeks ago I had a similar problem. It occurred directly after xinit and wasn't reproducible. It hit me perhaps every tenth time. After the switch from xorg to xorg-snap it didn't happen again. Fabian -- http://www.fabiankeil.de/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: snip xdaliclock!!! no wonder! e has to recalculate the dropshadow shapes all the time - i mean i spent a lot of time optimsing that heavily, but... doing realtime gaussian blurrs takes a bit of grunt. Yeah, but it's reall pretty! It does a very good job of it. It's very smooth. With or without it (xdaliclock), I don't see much impact though. well thats mostly the kernel - e will use cpu when it needs it - as much as it can get - then go back to idling waiting for something it needs to do. your kernel will handle 5giving up the cpu to e and takign it away as needed. e doesnt run threads or fork 1000's of processes so its only 1 slot in your kernel's process table and thus should have minimal impact in general - even if eating 100% cpu. It's sweet. I would have suspected that I would have seen some degradation because of the xdaliclock app, but if you think about, it's still got 80% of the cpu to play with. :) -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:00:54 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: snip xdaliclock!!! no wonder! e has to recalculate the dropshadow shapes all the time - i mean i spent a lot of time optimsing that heavily, but... doing realtime gaussian blurrs takes a bit of grunt. Yeah, but it's reall pretty! It does a very good job of it. It's very smooth. well it's not bad. in the future i hope to work on improving things so thngs liek dropshadows are more efficient with memory etc. right now they are most efficient if u have only square windows :) With or without it (xdaliclock), I don't see much impact though. well thats mostly the kernel - e will use cpu when it needs it - as much as it can get - then go back to idling waiting for something it needs to do. your kernel will handle 5giving up the cpu to e and takign it away as needed. e doesnt run threads or fork 1000's of processes so its only 1 slot in your kernel's process table and thus should have minimal impact in general - even if eating 100% cpu. It's sweet. I would have suspected that I would have seen some degradation because of the xdaliclock app, but if you think about, it's still got 80% of the cpu to play with. :) that's true :) -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:26:57 -0800 Eric Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Wednesday, 18 January 2006 at 23:15:59 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: hmm - ok - sounds like a input device grab that's hung. if this happenes again try: CTRL+ALT+Divide(on the numberpad) or if you want the x client that has the grab killed (in this case e will get killed if e has it grabbed and thus your login session may end) do: CTRL+ALT+Multiply(on the numberpad) Today it froze again, i had nothing open but firefox and Eterm. nothing was running in Eterm and firefox was on slackware homepage, no animations nothing. just froze there. no ctrl+alt+Multiply or anything would help. no reaction to keyboard. All i can do is turn off the power. so mouse kept working? but it would do nothing. animations kept drawing, but no keyboard or mouse inptu works? can u ctrl+alt+f1 to a terxt console and po0ke around? run top - see if anything is eating cpu? can u ssh in remotely and try? if E is using 100% cpu or something - attatch to e with gdb (see the faq on e.org for details on helping debug) then get a backtrace, so we get an idea of where it's at - if it's stuck in an infinete loop or something? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
RE: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
Hello, I'm not sure but i think i've got the same problem. I noticed that firefox, gimp or Eterm take a long time to start, and use 100% of CPU and when the window is up i've got the bar title blinking in red. It happens more with firefox, when I try to use a menu or when I type an address or use google search, the title bar blink in red and it take a very long time to show me the page or the result of the search. I'm on a gentoo linux with e17 compile from CVS (sourceforge). I use firefox 1.0.7, the same problem with 1.5. Hope this help... Regards, Stéphane -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) Envoyé : mercredi 18 janvier 2006 05:37 À : Raif Sarcich Cc : enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net Objet : Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:01:34 +0800 Raif Sarcich [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Afraid so. Now, as the disk access thing hasn't been reported by the others, it could be a different problem. Whatever's going on isn't locking up the system, but is interfering with it in a major way. When this happens: * I can kill X and switch to a term and type into it, do standard operations, but the process is slow because of the constant disk access. Also, the terminal misses many keystrokes, presumably those which occur when the process is performing some operation. * I can bring X back up, but once again, very slow and consistently interrupted. * I can still and move the mouse, and last time it happened i was able to manipulate the menus of the Links browser in an xterm with the mouse. I cannot manipulate any GUI controls though, whether part of e or qt or gtk. * As noted, the enlightenment process is unkillable. Still, the computer manages to shut down cleanly without protest. if you run top - is somehting wrong. is e like usign up 2gb of ram? or is somehting eatign cpu? if so - what? or eating ram My distro is Suse 10, and it's running on a compaq presario laptop with an ATI graphics chip, using the radeon driver in xorg.conf. I tend to use mainly kde apps, and though i can't be sure, it does usually seem to be konqueror that i'm using when this happens, though it's frozen using firefox as well ... i'm sorry i can't be more precise, as even when using firefox, konqueror was probably open. I can't reproduce it at will, unfortunately. Hope this helps. The freeze doesn't happen often, maybe once every four or five days, and i'm enjoying using e17. Thanks for your hard work. i do know there are freezes in X itself with some drivers (i have found with the ati fglrx closed drivers theres a nasty hang - happens with some combinations of renderng ops - its nto an e or firefox issue, but somehow both can trigger it and when that happens x consumes 100% cpu and u have to kill -9 x) but why e is not killable - see above. is it eating ram or something? Raif Quoting Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:54:09 +0800 Raif Sarcich [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I can report i have had this problem too - usually associated with Konqueror or Kontact. An additional symptom is a continually flickering HD LED thereafter until I do a reboot, and the enlightenment process is impossible to kill -9 even after killing the X server. I will have to see if it has anything to do with drag-and-drop now. what - even kill -9 doesnt work? Raif Sarcich Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keep drawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) =20 I can reproduice that easily with an dragdrop operation with efm. e17 free= zes immediately. =0A=0A=0A=0AJetzt Handykosten senken mit klarmobil - 14 Ct./Min.! Hier kli= cken=0Awww.klarmobil.de/index.html?pid=3D73025=0A --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:18:22 +0100 Stéphane Joguet [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hello, I'm not sure but i think i've got the same problem. I noticed that firefox, gimp or Eterm take a long time to start, and use 100% of CPU and when the window is up i've got the bar title blinking in red. It happens more with firefox, when I try to use a menu or when I type an address or use google search, the title bar blink in red and it take a very long time to show me the page or the result of the search. I'm on a gentoo linux with e17 compile from CVS (sourceforge). I use firefox 1.0.7, the same problem with 1.5. Hope this help... but what is USING the cpu? is Eterm or firefox using it? or e? Regards, Stéphane -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) Envoyé : mercredi 18 janvier 2006 05:37 À : Raif Sarcich Cc : enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net Objet : Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:01:34 +0800 Raif Sarcich [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Afraid so. Now, as the disk access thing hasn't been reported by the others, it could be a different problem. Whatever's going on isn't locking up the system, but is interfering with it in a major way. When this happens: * I can kill X and switch to a term and type into it, do standard operations, but the process is slow because of the constant disk access. Also, the terminal misses many keystrokes, presumably those which occur when the process is performing some operation. * I can bring X back up, but once again, very slow and consistently interrupted. * I can still and move the mouse, and last time it happened i was able to manipulate the menus of the Links browser in an xterm with the mouse. I cannot manipulate any GUI controls though, whether part of e or qt or gtk. * As noted, the enlightenment process is unkillable. Still, the computer manages to shut down cleanly without protest. if you run top - is somehting wrong. is e like usign up 2gb of ram? or is somehting eatign cpu? if so - what? or eating ram My distro is Suse 10, and it's running on a compaq presario laptop with an ATI graphics chip, using the radeon driver in xorg.conf. I tend to use mainly kde apps, and though i can't be sure, it does usually seem to be konqueror that i'm using when this happens, though it's frozen using firefox as well ... i'm sorry i can't be more precise, as even when using firefox, konqueror was probably open. I can't reproduce it at will, unfortunately. Hope this helps. The freeze doesn't happen often, maybe once every four or five days, and i'm enjoying using e17. Thanks for your hard work. i do know there are freezes in X itself with some drivers (i have found with the ati fglrx closed drivers theres a nasty hang - happens with some combinations of renderng ops - its nto an e or firefox issue, but somehow both can trigger it and when that happens x consumes 100% cpu and u have to kill -9 x) but why e is not killable - see above. is it eating ram or something? Raif Quoting Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:54:09 +0800 Raif Sarcich [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I can report i have had this problem too - usually associated with Konqueror or Kontact. An additional symptom is a continually flickering HD LED thereafter until I do a reboot, and the enlightenment process is impossible to kill -9 even after killing the X server. I will have to see if it has anything to do with drag-and-drop now. what - even kill -9 doesnt work? Raif Sarcich Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keep drawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) =20 I can reproduice that easily with an dragdrop operation with efm. e17 free= zes immediately. =0A=0A=0A=0AJetzt Handykosten senken mit klarmobil - 14 Ct./Min.! Hier kli= cken=0Awww.klarmobil.de/index.html?pid=3D73025=0A --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:28:10 -0800 Eric Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Wednesday, 18 January 2006 at 12:30:01 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:24:42 -0800 Eric Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 10:01:00 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:34:45 -0800 Eric Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: hi, lately i have been experiencing lots of freezing. my desktop just freezes. i can move the mouse but can't click on anything anymore. the keyboard is also dead. when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keep drawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) i haven't found a pattern yet, but everytime it did happen i had firefox open. i am using 1.5.3, other than that it happened when i used eclair to play movies or music or using the file manager. but do things still draw? if the web page has an animated banner does it keep animating? does ffox's spinner spin etc? the things that draw - do they keep drawing? yes, they still draw. if i for instance when music is playing it still plays, animations keep moving hmm - ok - sounds like a input device grab that's hung. if this happenes again try: CTRL+ALT+Divide(on the numberpad) or if you want the x client that has the grab killed (in this case e will get killed if e has it grabbed and thus your login session may end) do: CTRL+ALT+Multiply(on the numberpad) i use e17 .023 from cvs on archlinux 0.7.1 i installed gnome for a day to see if same thing happens there too, but it doesn't. anybody know what might be going on? eric -- Eric Dan UCLA ID #103297286 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Eric Dan UCLA ID #103297286 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *vladuz976* --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Eric Dan UCLA ID #103297286 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *vladuz976* --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
Stéphane Joguet wrote: Hello, I'm not sure but i think i've got the same problem. I noticed that firefox, gimp or Eterm take a long time to start, and use 100% of CPU and when the window is up i've got the bar title blinking in red. It happens more with firefox, when I try to use a menu or when I type an address or use google search, the title bar blink in red and it take a very long time to show me the page or the result of the search. I'll get the blinking title bar at times when a window is taking a long time to load. Large files in Open Office or say a website that's either slow or full of useless animation... SuSE 10.0 -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: if you run top - is somehting wrong. is e like usign up 2gb of ram? or is somehting eatign cpu? if so - what? or eating ram Curious as to what is an expected amount of cpu/memory usage for E17. Right now E is at 13.9% cpu, which is higher then any other wm I've used, but usable. Is this a reasonable expectation? Is there anyway to determine which cvs version has this problem? I've not updated in a while, and really don't want to start seeing my box lock up. Silly me, I'm running it on my development and main boxes. -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:32:31 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: if you run top - is somehting wrong. is e like usign up 2gb of ram? or is somehting eatign cpu? if so - what? or eating ram Curious as to what is an expected amount of cpu/memory usage for E17. Right now E is at 13.9% cpu, which is higher then any other wm I've used, but usable. Is this a reasonable expectation? 13.9% - continuously? or just a peak rememebr when the widnowp changes focus - u move somehting it will eat cpu to do the gfx rendering, then calm down to very little after that. if you use flame, draindrops, snow, other animations they consume cpu - even the clock module consumes some cpu - on a very old/slow system it might be possible it can consume 13% cpu for the clock. what do you have running in e (like moduels - is there an animated bg, what theme etc.) Ah, you nailed it on the head. I ran top in batch mode and it was running from about 13-19%. Then I killed xdaliclock. :) Now it's running at less than 1.5% :) Usually around 1-1.3% With or without it (xdaliclock), I don't see much impact though. AMD Sempron 3000+ 1gig memory. -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:41:18 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:32:31 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: if you run top - is somehting wrong. is e like usign up 2gb of ram? or is somehting eatign cpu? if so - what? or eating ram Curious as to what is an expected amount of cpu/memory usage for E17. Right now E is at 13.9% cpu, which is higher then any other wm I've used, but usable. Is this a reasonable expectation? 13.9% - continuously? or just a peak rememebr when the widnowp changes focus - u move somehting it will eat cpu to do the gfx rendering, then calm down to very little after that. if you use flame, draindrops, snow, other animations they consume cpu - even the clock module consumes some cpu - on a very old/slow system it might be possible it can consume 13% cpu for the clock. what do you have running in e (like moduels - is there an animated bg, what theme etc.) Ah, you nailed it on the head. I ran top in batch mode and it was running from about 13-19%. Then I killed xdaliclock. :) Now it's running at less than 1.5% :) Usually around 1-1.3% xdaliclock!!! no wonder! e has to recalculate the dropshadow shapes all the time - i mean i spent a lot of time optimsing that heavily, but... doing realtime gaussian blurrs takes a bit of grunt. With or without it (xdaliclock), I don't see much impact though. well thats mostly the kernel - e will use cpu when it needs it - as much as it can get - then go back to idling waiting for something it needs to do. your kernel will handle 5giving up the cpu to e and takign it away as needed. e doesnt run threads or fork 1000's of processes so its only 1 slot in your kernel's process table and thus should have minimal impact in general - even if eating 100% cpu. AMD Sempron 3000+ 1gig memory. -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
Stphane Joguet wrote: Hello, I'm not sure but i think i've got the same problem. I noticed that firefox, gimp or Eterm take a long time to start, and use 100% of CPU and when the window is up i've got the bar title blinking in red. It happens more with firefox, when I try to use a menu or when I type an address or use google search, the title bar blink in red and it take a very long time to show me the page or the result of the search. I'm on a gentoo linux with e17 compile from CVS (sourceforge). I use firefox 1.0.7, the same problem with 1.5. Hope this help... Regards, Stphane -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] De la part de Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) Envoy : mercredi 18 janvier 2006 05:37 : Raif Sarcich Cc : enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net Objet : Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:01:34 +0800 Raif Sarcich [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Afraid so. Now, as the disk access thing hasn't been reported by the others, it could be a different problem. Whatever's going on isn't locking up the system, but is interfering with it in a major way. When this happens: * I can kill X and switch to a term and type into it, do standard operations, but the process is slow because of the constant disk access. Also, the terminal misses many keystrokes, presumably those which occur when the process is performing some operation. * I can bring X back up, but once again, very slow and consistently interrupted. * I can still and move the mouse, and last time it happened i was able to manipulate the menus of the "Links" browser in an xterm with the mouse. I cannot manipulate any GUI controls though, whether part of e or qt or gtk. * As noted, the enlightenment process is unkillable. Still, the computer manages to shut down cleanly without protest. if you run top - is somehting wrong. is e like usign up 2gb of ram? or is somehting eatign cpu? if so - what? or eating ram My distro is Suse 10, and it's running on a compaq presario laptop with an ATI graphics chip, using the "radeon" driver in xorg.conf. I tend to use mainly kde apps, and though i can't be sure, it does usually seem to be konqueror that i'm using when this happens, though it's frozen using firefox as well ... i'm sorry i can't be more precise, as even when using firefox, konqueror was probably open. I can't reproduce it at will, unfortunately. Hope this helps. The freeze doesn't happen often, maybe once every four or five days, and i'm enjoying using e17. Thanks for your hard work. i do know there are freezes in X itself with some drivers (i have found with the ati fglrx closed drivers theres a nasty hang - happens with some combinations of renderng ops - its nto an e or firefox issue, but somehow both can trigger it and when that happens x consumes 100% cpu and u have to kill -9 x) but why e is not killable - see above. is it eating ram or something? Raif Quoting "Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:54:09 +0800 Raif Sarcich [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I can report i have had this problem too - usually associated with Konqueror or Kontact. An additional symptom is a continually flickering HD LED thereafter until I do a reboot, and the enlightenment process is impossible to kill -9 even after killing the X server. I will have to see if it has anything to do with drag-and-drop now. what - even kill -9 doesnt work? Raif Sarcich Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keep drawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) =20 I can reproduice that easily with an dragdrop operation with efm. e17 free= zes immediately. =0A=0A=0A=0A"Jetzt Handykosten senken mit klarmobil - 14 Ct./Min.! Hier kli= cken"=0Awww.klarmobil.de/index.html?pid=3D73025=0A --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sour
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when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keep drawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) I can reproduice that easily with an dragdrop operation with efm. e17 freezes immediately. Jetzt Handykosten senken mit klarmobil - 14 Ct./Min.! Hier klicken www.klarmobil.de/index.html?pid=73025 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
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On Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 10:01:00 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:34:45 -0800 Eric Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: hi, lately i have been experiencing lots of freezing. my desktop just freezes. i can move the mouse but can't click on anything anymore. the keyboard is also dead. when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keep drawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) i haven't found a pattern yet, but everytime it did happen i had firefox open. i am using 1.5.3, other than that it happened when i used eclair to play movies or music or using the file manager. i use e17 .023 from cvs on archlinux 0.7.1 i installed gnome for a day to see if same thing happens there too, but it doesn't. anybody know what might be going on? eric -- Eric Dan UCLA ID #103297286 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Eric Dan UCLA ID #103297286 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *vladuz976* --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keep drawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) I can reproduice that easily with an dragdrop operation with efm. e17 freezes immediately. "Jetzt Handykosten senken mit klarmobil - 14 Ct./Min.! Hier klicken" www.klarmobil.de/index.html?pid=73025 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users Hapens for me too. Didnt know till I tried it. Locks up tight as a drum. -- The only constancy is change itself. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Fredrick P. Brooks, Jr. Roland A. Wilcher --
Re: Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
I can report i have had this problem too - usually associated with Konqueror or Kontact. An additional symptom is a continually flickering HD LED thereafter until I do a reboot, and the enlightenment process is impossible to kill -9 even after killing the X server. I will have to see if it has anything to do with drag-and-drop now. Raif Sarcich Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keep drawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) =20 I can reproduice that easily with an dragdrop operation with efm. e17 free= zes immediately. =0A=0A=0A=0AJetzt Handykosten senken mit klarmobil - 14 Ct./Min.! Hier kli= cken=0Awww.klarmobil.de/index.html?pid=3D73025=0A --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
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I have had this problem with an nVidia Geforce4 MX400. The solution was to disable renderaccel if you are using Composite. -- Lachlan --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:54:09 +0800 Raif Sarcich [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I can report i have had this problem too - usually associated with Konqueror or Kontact. An additional symptom is a continually flickering HD LED thereafter until I do a reboot, and the enlightenment process is impossible to kill -9 even after killing the X server. I will have to see if it has anything to do with drag-and-drop now. what - even kill -9 doesnt work? Raif Sarcich Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keep drawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) =20 I can reproduice that easily with an dragdrop operation with efm. e17 free= zes immediately. =0A=0A=0A=0AJetzt Handykosten senken mit klarmobil - 14 Ct./Min.! Hier kli= cken=0Awww.klarmobil.de/index.html?pid=3D73025=0A --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:30:34 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keep drawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) I can reproduice that easily with an dragdrop operation with efm. e17 freezes immediately. THAT is a known problem in dnd :) e grabs but never releases the grab. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:30:34 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keep drawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) I can reproduice that easily with an dragdrop operation with efm. e17 freezes immediately. yeah - dont use it. i know about this. some people should test their code a bit better... :) :) Jetzt Handykosten senken mit klarmobil - 14 Ct./Min.! Hier klicken www.klarmobil.de/index.html?pid=73025 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
hi, lately i have been experiencing lots of freezing. my desktop just freezes. i can move the mouse but can't click on anything anymore. the keyboard is also dead. i use e17 .023 from cvs on archlinux 0.7.1 i installed gnome for a day to see if same thing happens there too, but it doesn't. anybody know what might be going on? eric -- Eric Dan UCLA ID #103297286 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] desktop freezing like in windows xp
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:34:45 -0800 Eric Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: hi, lately i have been experiencing lots of freezing. my desktop just freezes. i can move the mouse but can't click on anything anymore. the keyboard is also dead. when does it happen? what did you do just before? do things still keep drawing/updating? (if somethig was animating.. does it keep animating?) i use e17 .023 from cvs on archlinux 0.7.1 i installed gnome for a day to see if same thing happens there too, but it doesn't. anybody know what might be going on? eric -- Eric Dan UCLA ID #103297286 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
