Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:42:30 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said:

> On 9/29/18 4:03 PM, minimec wrote:
> 
> > A long time ago there was a build script, 'easy_e17.sh' it was called I
> > tnink, that checked the project tree for new code and compiled the
> > components accordingly. Would such a script still exist? Or what would be
> > your recommended way to compile enlightenment from source?
> > 
> Needs to install Arch. Some people may be interested, it works fine...
> Maintainer/packager, Raster himself
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/efl-git/
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/enlightenment-git/

yeah. i maintain those (poke me if something is wrong) - i keep the build
options at what i use and know works and so that means wayland also should work
with the efl+e aur packages (if it can work at all :) - e.g. won't work on
nvidia as nvidia chose not to use GBM like everyone else).

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Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-30 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:03:57 +0200 minimec  said:

> Dear Raster.
> 
> Thank you for your reply.
> 
> > Input should have nothing to do with driver. it's unrelated to any video
> driver (nvidia) code. This doesn't make sense... :/ It's something else.
> 
> After having read your reply, I checked my config and startup script and
> found, that I run a modified gnome-session every time I start
> enlightenment. That comes from a time when I used a gnome-panel in my
> enlightenment session. So removing that gnome-session solved my most
> important problems. Heureka!

wow. well... something has gone wrong. maybe gnome-session somehow trying to
grab mouse buttons or remap keys/modifiers ... or something? another problem
wayland solves :0

> So it looks like that gnome-session interfered with the enlightenment
> session from time to time. Still it is interesting to see, that the
> problems only came up, once I started to use the nvidia-396 driver.
> Strange...

yeah/ they shouldn't. video drivers will affect screen setup/output and
rendering... but not input. perhaps at most they change timing and thus race
conditions might appear that then affect input.

> > So the first port of call is to look into if the latest efl + e from git
> master...
> 
> A long time ago there was a build script, 'easy_e17.sh' it was called I
> tnink, that checked the project tree for new code and compiled the
> components accordingly. Would such a script still exist? Or what would be
> your recommended way to compile enlightenment from source?

well enlightenment.org provides instructions on efl and e ... even for several
specific linux distributions. :) but you don't seem to need it now, so no
point. we found at least part of the problem (gnome-session and e clashing).

> THX again for your time.
> 
> 
> Am Fr., 28. Sep. 2018 um 19:49 Uhr schrieb Carsten Haitzler <
> ras...@rasterman.com>:
> 
> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:59:59 +0200 minimec  said:
> >
> > Input should have nothing to do with driver. it's unrelated to any video
> > driver
> > (nvidia) code. This doesn't make sense... :/ It's something else.
> >
> > So the first port of call is to look into if the latest efl + e from git
> > master
> > still show the same issues, and then to hunt what they are. maybe latest
> > efl
> > release (instead of efl git) plus e from git master. then we can narrow
> > down
> > maybe if it's been fixed or if still there, what.
> >
> > > My friends...
> > >
> > > For a long time now I lived with some bugs with ubuntu 16.04 + e22.3.0
> > > (ppa) and a nvidia gtx1060, running the default ubuntu version of the
> > > proprietary nvidia driver, (nvidia-384). I was not able to do right
> > clicks
> > > in some software (telegram-desktop) and had some 'ghosts' of closed or
> > > minimized applications in the pager and the window switcher. Also I lost
> > > focus on popup windows in some apps (gnome-screenshot). I could live with
> > > that... I have seen worse in my ~15(!) years of enlightenment usage.
> > >
> > > Now I had to switch to the latest nvidia-396, because of some steam
> > games I
> > > would like to play. Problems have become worse! Now I completely loose
> > > focus from time to time for the whole desktop. Although I can drag
> > windows
> > > around and close them, I cannot open any enlightenment menu from the
> > > desktop with my mouse, I cannot type anymore (or only certain keys work).
> > > The only way to get focus back, is to switch to a console and back to X.
> > >
> > > I have come to a point, where I really need your help. I cannot continue
> > my
> > > enlightenment experience like that. My hope is that some of you might be
> > > aware of similar problems and are able to share their solution (nvidia
> > GPU
> > > configuration) or enlightenment rendering settings.
> > >
> > > If you don't have a solution for me, I probably need to step back to e17
> > in
> > > combination with bodhilinux or use a different window manager. Stepping
> > > back to nvidia-384 is a temporary solution maybe, but I would not be able
> > > to use my computer and GPU the way I want i to use, as I would not be
> > able
> > > to play the games I want, that need a rather recent nvidia-driver.
> > >
> > > Please help me. The e17 desktop was and still is an enlightenment for
> > me. I
> > > cannot imagine living without it on a multi-screen setup.
> > >
> > > sincerely yours...
> > >
> > > minimec
> > >
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> >
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> > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com
> >
> >


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Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-29 Thread leoutation

On 9/29/18 4:03 PM, minimec wrote:


A long time ago there was a build script, 'easy_e17.sh' it was called I
tnink, that checked the project tree for new code and compiled the
components accordingly. Would such a script still exist? Or what would be
your recommended way to compile enlightenment from source?


Needs to install Arch. Some people may be interested, it works fine...
Maintainer/packager, Raster himself
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/efl-git/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/enlightenment-git/




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Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-29 Thread Jérémy Zurcher
Hi,

On Saturday 29 September 2018  16:03, minimec wrote :
> A long time ago there was a build script, 'easy_e17.sh' it was called I
> tnink, that checked the project tree for new code and compiled the
> components accordingly. Would such a script still exist? Or what would be
> your recommended way to compile enlightenment from source?

I use mine on a daily basis
https://git.enlightenment.org/devs/jeyzu/scripts.git/tree/build-fcts.sh
https://git.enlightenment.org/devs/jeyzu/scripts.git/tree/build-box.sh

you must first git clone the desired repos

you can override the default vars with an efl-build.conf file
(https://git.enlightenment.org/devs/jeyzu/scripts.git/tree/clang-flags.conf)

> 
--- Hell'O from Yverdoom

Jérémy (jeyzu)


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Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-29 Thread minimec
Dear Raster.

Thank you for your reply.

> Input should have nothing to do with driver. it's unrelated to any video
driver (nvidia) code. This doesn't make sense... :/ It's something else.

After having read your reply, I checked my config and startup script and
found, that I run a modified gnome-session every time I start
enlightenment. That comes from a time when I used a gnome-panel in my
enlightenment session. So removing that gnome-session solved my most
important problems. Heureka!

So it looks like that gnome-session interfered with the enlightenment
session from time to time. Still it is interesting to see, that the
problems only came up, once I started to use the nvidia-396 driver.
Strange...

> So the first port of call is to look into if the latest efl + e from git
master...

A long time ago there was a build script, 'easy_e17.sh' it was called I
tnink, that checked the project tree for new code and compiled the
components accordingly. Would such a script still exist? Or what would be
your recommended way to compile enlightenment from source?

THX again for your time.


Am Fr., 28. Sep. 2018 um 19:49 Uhr schrieb Carsten Haitzler <
ras...@rasterman.com>:

> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:59:59 +0200 minimec  said:
>
> Input should have nothing to do with driver. it's unrelated to any video
> driver
> (nvidia) code. This doesn't make sense... :/ It's something else.
>
> So the first port of call is to look into if the latest efl + e from git
> master
> still show the same issues, and then to hunt what they are. maybe latest
> efl
> release (instead of efl git) plus e from git master. then we can narrow
> down
> maybe if it's been fixed or if still there, what.
>
> > My friends...
> >
> > For a long time now I lived with some bugs with ubuntu 16.04 + e22.3.0
> > (ppa) and a nvidia gtx1060, running the default ubuntu version of the
> > proprietary nvidia driver, (nvidia-384). I was not able to do right
> clicks
> > in some software (telegram-desktop) and had some 'ghosts' of closed or
> > minimized applications in the pager and the window switcher. Also I lost
> > focus on popup windows in some apps (gnome-screenshot). I could live with
> > that... I have seen worse in my ~15(!) years of enlightenment usage.
> >
> > Now I had to switch to the latest nvidia-396, because of some steam
> games I
> > would like to play. Problems have become worse! Now I completely loose
> > focus from time to time for the whole desktop. Although I can drag
> windows
> > around and close them, I cannot open any enlightenment menu from the
> > desktop with my mouse, I cannot type anymore (or only certain keys work).
> > The only way to get focus back, is to switch to a console and back to X.
> >
> > I have come to a point, where I really need your help. I cannot continue
> my
> > enlightenment experience like that. My hope is that some of you might be
> > aware of similar problems and are able to share their solution (nvidia
> GPU
> > configuration) or enlightenment rendering settings.
> >
> > If you don't have a solution for me, I probably need to step back to e17
> in
> > combination with bodhilinux or use a different window manager. Stepping
> > back to nvidia-384 is a temporary solution maybe, but I would not be able
> > to use my computer and GPU the way I want i to use, as I would not be
> able
> > to play the games I want, that need a rather recent nvidia-driver.
> >
> > Please help me. The e17 desktop was and still is an enlightenment for
> me. I
> > cannot imagine living without it on a multi-screen setup.
> >
> > sincerely yours...
> >
> > minimec
> >
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Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:59:59 +0200 minimec  said:

Input should have nothing to do with driver. it's unrelated to any video driver
(nvidia) code. This doesn't make sense... :/ It's something else.

So the first port of call is to look into if the latest efl + e from git master
still show the same issues, and then to hunt what they are. maybe latest efl
release (instead of efl git) plus e from git master. then we can narrow down
maybe if it's been fixed or if still there, what.

> My friends...
> 
> For a long time now I lived with some bugs with ubuntu 16.04 + e22.3.0
> (ppa) and a nvidia gtx1060, running the default ubuntu version of the
> proprietary nvidia driver, (nvidia-384). I was not able to do right clicks
> in some software (telegram-desktop) and had some 'ghosts' of closed or
> minimized applications in the pager and the window switcher. Also I lost
> focus on popup windows in some apps (gnome-screenshot). I could live with
> that... I have seen worse in my ~15(!) years of enlightenment usage.
> 
> Now I had to switch to the latest nvidia-396, because of some steam games I
> would like to play. Problems have become worse! Now I completely loose
> focus from time to time for the whole desktop. Although I can drag windows
> around and close them, I cannot open any enlightenment menu from the
> desktop with my mouse, I cannot type anymore (or only certain keys work).
> The only way to get focus back, is to switch to a console and back to X.
> 
> I have come to a point, where I really need your help. I cannot continue my
> enlightenment experience like that. My hope is that some of you might be
> aware of similar problems and are able to share their solution (nvidia GPU
> configuration) or enlightenment rendering settings.
> 
> If you don't have a solution for me, I probably need to step back to e17 in
> combination with bodhilinux or use a different window manager. Stepping
> back to nvidia-384 is a temporary solution maybe, but I would not be able
> to use my computer and GPU the way I want i to use, as I would not be able
> to play the games I want, that need a rather recent nvidia-driver.
> 
> Please help me. The e17 desktop was and still is an enlightenment for me. I
> cannot imagine living without it on a multi-screen setup.
> 
> sincerely yours...
> 
> minimec
> 
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[e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-28 Thread minimec
My friends...

For a long time now I lived with some bugs with ubuntu 16.04 + e22.3.0
(ppa) and a nvidia gtx1060, running the default ubuntu version of the
proprietary nvidia driver, (nvidia-384). I was not able to do right clicks
in some software (telegram-desktop) and had some 'ghosts' of closed or
minimized applications in the pager and the window switcher. Also I lost
focus on popup windows in some apps (gnome-screenshot). I could live with
that... I have seen worse in my ~15(!) years of enlightenment usage.

Now I had to switch to the latest nvidia-396, because of some steam games I
would like to play. Problems have become worse! Now I completely loose
focus from time to time for the whole desktop. Although I can drag windows
around and close them, I cannot open any enlightenment menu from the
desktop with my mouse, I cannot type anymore (or only certain keys work).
The only way to get focus back, is to switch to a console and back to X.

I have come to a point, where I really need your help. I cannot continue my
enlightenment experience like that. My hope is that some of you might be
aware of similar problems and are able to share their solution (nvidia GPU
configuration) or enlightenment rendering settings.

If you don't have a solution for me, I probably need to step back to e17 in
combination with bodhilinux or use a different window manager. Stepping
back to nvidia-384 is a temporary solution maybe, but I would not be able
to use my computer and GPU the way I want i to use, as I would not be able
to play the games I want, that need a rather recent nvidia-driver.

Please help me. The e17 desktop was and still is an enlightenment for me. I
cannot imagine living without it on a multi-screen setup.

sincerely yours...

minimec

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