Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor (GWoB)

2003-11-04 Thread Patrick R. Wade
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 09:30:37PM -0800, T. Joseph Carter wrote:

On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 02:45:21PM -0800, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
 don't accept domestic donatinos... WTF?
 
 Actually, they don't DO domestic donations.  That is, they accept 
 donations (from G3's to tachyon-based equipment to wireless 
 abacuses) from domestic sources but donate to folks in other countries.

What could would be a wireless abacus?  What else are you going to slide
beads across?  String maybe?


The original abacus (  Greek abax = board ) was a flat area with a grid
marked on it, together with some loose beads or pebbles (calculi).  You
move the pebbles into different grid areas to represent different values.
The bead-frame was introduced for portability reasons, but later 
implementations in the seven-beads-per-column series support some nifty
shortcuts in division, as well as allowing faster finger motion over the
beads, as it is harder to push rail-mounted beads into the wrong column.
On the other hand, the loose-beads-on-a-plane models support arbitrary
relationships between columns (this is why the odd conversions between
classical measurement units of diffrent orders, and particularly the 
asymmetric progression of English coinage, was supported as long as it was;
with a little practice the transitions across the abacus are easy).
I suspect it is no accident that Chinese traditional measurements tend
to follow base-ten progressions, while at the same time China was the
first culture to standardise on the bead-frame abacus.  In the West
the killer app that drove standardization on base-ten and algorithmic 
( = written out) arithmetic was bookkeeping; with abacus arithmetic
the bookkeeper would first enter the records, then calculate on the abacus,
then enter the results, but with algorithm he could calculate directly
in the ledger, saving a context switch and leaving an audit trail.

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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor (GWoB)

2003-11-03 Thread Ben Barrett
There is a Geeks Without Borders group starting up in Eugene...
I met them at the Eugene Celebration -- they didn't know about EUGLUG,
but I traded cards with them and can dig up the local contacts later.

Here is the main site:

http://gwob.org/

Alternatively, the local HeadStart of Lane County has a warehouse for
donated computers (and monitors) which are slowly recycled into K12LTSP
projects and the like, around the area.  Ken, do you have any contact
info for them, or know if they're even accepting more donations now?

ciao,

   Ben


On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:39:22 -0800
Ken Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| On Saturday 01 November 2003 8:23 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
| wrote:
| 
|  it occured to me that it
|  might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane
|  Society for computer equipment...  But entirely free, or close to
|  that.  Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based systems,
|  and donate them to those who might need them.
| 
| You mean like FreeGeek in Portland?  (www.freegeek.org, IIRC)
| 
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor (GWoB)

2003-11-03 Thread Ben Barrett
D'oh!  I just *read* TFP and noticed that they don't accept domestic
donatinos... WTF?  I don't know why not.  In talking to them, I was led
to believe that they did.  Plus, that part of the page appears to be a
graphic, so one cannot cutNpaste those words... annoying, and
badly-designed, considering that they're [self-proclaimed] 'geeks'.

bah!


  -Ben


On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:22:16 -0800
Ben Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| There is a Geeks Without Borders group starting up in Eugene...
| I met them at the Eugene Celebration -- they didn't know about EUGLUG,
| but I traded cards with them and can dig up the local contacts later.
| 
| Here is the main site:
| 
| http://gwob.org/
| 
| Alternatively, the local HeadStart of Lane County has a warehouse for
| donated computers (and monitors) which are slowly recycled into
| K12LTSP projects and the like, around the area.  Ken, do you have any
| contact info for them, or know if they're even accepting more
| donations now?
| 
| ciao,
| 
|Ben
| 
| 
| On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:39:22 -0800
| Ken Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
| | On Saturday 01 November 2003 8:23 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
| | wrote:
| | 
| |  it occured to me that it
| |  might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane
| |  Society for computer equipment...  But entirely free, or close to
| |  that.  Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based
| |  systems, and donate them to those who might need them.
| | 
| | You mean like FreeGeek in Portland?  (www.freegeek.org, IIRC)
| | 
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor (GWoB)

2003-11-03 Thread Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
don't accept domestic donatinos... WTF?

Actually, they don't DO domestic donations.  That is, they accept 
donations (from G3's to tachyon-based equipment to wireless 
abacuses) from domestic sources but donate to folks in other countries.

M

Ben Barrett wrote:

D'oh!  I just *read* TFP and noticed that they don't accept domestic
donatinos... WTF?  I don't know why not.  In talking to them, I was led
to believe that they did.  Plus, that part of the page appears to be a
graphic, so one cannot cutNpaste those words... annoying, and
badly-designed, considering that they're [self-proclaimed] 'geeks'.
bah!

 -Ben

On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:22:16 -0800
Ben Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| There is a Geeks Without Borders group starting up in Eugene...
| I met them at the Eugene Celebration -- they didn't know about EUGLUG,
| but I traded cards with them and can dig up the local contacts later.
| 
| Here is the main site:
| 
| http://gwob.org/
| 
| Alternatively, the local HeadStart of Lane County has a warehouse for
| donated computers (and monitors) which are slowly recycled into
| K12LTSP projects and the like, around the area.  Ken, do you have any
| contact info for them, or know if they're even accepting more
| donations now?
| 
| ciao,
| 
|Ben
| 
| 
| On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:39:22 -0800
| Ken Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
| | On Saturday 01 November 2003 8:23 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
| | wrote:
| | 
| |  it occured to me that it
| |  might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane
| |  Society for computer equipment...  But entirely free, or close to
| |  that.  Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based
| |  systems, and donate them to those who might need them.
| | 
| | You mean like FreeGeek in Portland?  (www.freegeek.org, IIRC)
| | 
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor (GWoB)

2003-11-03 Thread Bob Miller
Ben Barrett wrote:

 There is a Geeks Without Borders group starting up in Eugene...
 I met them at the Eugene Celebration -- they didn't know about EUGLUG,
 but I traded cards with them and can dig up the local contacts later.
 
 Here is the main site:
 
 http://gwob.org/

Maye we should start an outreach program for them and get them off of
Yahoo Groups.  (I hate Yahoo Groups.)

I also talked to the GWOB guys at the Celebration, joined their
mailing list.  Not much happening there right now, AFAICT.

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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor (GWoB)

2003-11-03 Thread Ken Barber
On Monday 03 November 2003 14:22, Ben Barrett wrote:

 Alternatively, the local HeadStart of Lane County has a
 warehouse for donated computers (and monitors) which are slowly
 recycled into K12LTSP projects and the like, around the area. 
 Ken, do you have any contact info for them, or know if they're
 even accepting more donations now?

Head Start is looking for ways to get RID of their donated 
equipment, not take in more.  Last I knew they were bursting at 
the seams, waiting for another community group (started by Chris 
Calise) to find warehouse space.  But it never happened.

I still haven't received a response to yesterday's post saying 
that I'd like to have the monitor.

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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor (GWoB)

2003-11-03 Thread Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
I still haven't received a response to yesterday's post saying 
that I'd like to have the monitor.

Sorry Ken, I thought I'd responded.  Kent Loobey claimed it a few hours 
before you.

Max

Ken Barber wrote:

On Monday 03 November 2003 14:22, Ben Barrett wrote:

 

Alternatively, the local HeadStart of Lane County has a
warehouse for donated computers (and monitors) which are slowly
recycled into K12LTSP projects and the like, around the area. 
Ken, do you have any contact info for them, or know if they're
even accepting more donations now?
   

Head Start is looking for ways to get RID of their donated 
equipment, not take in more.  Last I knew they were bursting at 
the seams, waiting for another community group (started by Chris 
Calise) to find warehouse space.  But it never happened.

I still haven't received a response to yesterday's post saying 
that I'd like to have the monitor.

Ken
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor (GWoB)

2003-11-03 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 02:45:21PM -0800, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
 don't accept domestic donatinos... WTF?
 
 Actually, they don't DO domestic donations.  That is, they accept 
 donations (from G3's to tachyon-based equipment to wireless 
 abacuses) from domestic sources but donate to folks in other countries.

What could would be a wireless abacus?  What else are you going to slide
beads across?  String maybe?

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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-02 Thread Rob Hudson
On 20031101.2023, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp said ...

 Having done this free stuff posting before, it occured to me that it 
 might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane 
 Society for computer equipment...  But entirely free, or close to 
 that.  Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based systems, and 
 donate them to those who might need them.

Just this week I found out about freecycle.org...
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-02 Thread Ken Barber
On Saturday 01 November 2003 8:23 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:

 it occured to me that it
 might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane
 Society for computer equipment...  But entirely free, or close to
 that.  Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based systems, and
 donate them to those who might need them.

You mean like FreeGeek in Portland?  (www.freegeek.org, IIRC)

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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-02 Thread Linux Rocks !
Thats really great and everything, but I do have atleast one monitor in 
eugene, its really out here that I could use a monitor. If Bob can use it, 
and doesnt need it when I get back (could be years, I have no idea) but 
It doesnt look like Ill be back anytime too soon.
Its weird that there are so many places that wont take a decent working 
monitor! I can understand about some placed charging money, as they probably 
get a lot of dead monitors (or ones that work for 5 minutes...) and end up 
having to recycle them at thier expense... 

If my car sells (which it hasnt... even though I lowered the price) Ill 
probably get a laptop, the I wont need this monitor on all the time, and can 
move it around... 
P.S. Anyone looking for a fast car? I have a vintage 1982 Mitsubishi Starion 
Turbo for sale... only $1,500. I rarely drive it, and have restored most of 
it. It has some minor issues that would be good to fix, but works fine as it 
is. Its fast, and has decent speakers (6) on the stock stereo, power 
everything (even windows), and a halfway decent paint job. 

Jamie


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: I'm sharing an office with Muhleim, Boyd and Carroll at 88 E. Broadway. 
: Just tell the nice lady that it's for me and I'll store it away for Jamie.
:
: Maximillian Von Schwanekamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I should tell my slightly amusing story on this - I tried to donate it
: to the Goodwill on Coburg Rd, and they don't accept (and will soon stop
: selling) computer parts anymore.  I called EFN, and they did not want
: it, but suggested St Vinny's on Seneca.  Tried there, but they wanted me
: to give them $5 in addition to giving them the monitor!  (Or any other
: computer equipment for that matter).  Sure we'll accept your gift, but
: you have to pay us for the effort of pricing it and putting it on a
: shelf.  That irked me, so here I am looking for a home for this
: monitor!  Seriously though, Jamie if you really want another monitor, I
: would be happy to drop it off.
: 
: Having done this free stuff posting before, it occured to me that it
: might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane
: Society for computer equipment...  But entirely free, or close to
: that.  Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based systems, and
: donate them to those who might need them.
: 
: Max
: 
: Bob Crandell wrote:
: Max could always drop it off at my office and Jamie could pick it up from
:  there next time he is in the neighborhood.
: 
: Bob
: 
: Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: heh... yeah... I could have fed ex pick it up... how much do you suppose
:  that would cost!
: 
: Jamie
: 
: On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:35 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: : Ah.  Guess I should have said: Free for someone who is willing and
: : able to pick it up in the reasonably near future:
: :
: : Max
: :
: : Linux Rocks ! wrote:
: : hey I could really use a monitor, but its a 3000 mile drive! (which
: :  Is why I only have 1 monitor with me!)
: : 
: : Dont hold the monitor for me, I have no idea when I'll be in driving
: :  distance!
: : 
: : Jamie
: : 
: : On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:08 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp 
wrote:
: : : Free for someone who is willing to pick it up:
: : :
: : : 1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor, I believe it's 70Mhz @ 1024x768. 
: : : Works fine no burn or screen scratches, it's just taking up desk
: : : space.  It does have some black ink splatters on the top, near the
: : : back.  Nothing that you would notice while using it though.
: : :
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-02 Thread Ken Barber
On Saturday 01 November 2003 7:08 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
 Free for someone who is willing to pick it up:

 1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor

 : : Linux Rocks ! wrote:
 : : hey I could really use a monitor, but its a 3000 mile drive! (which
 : :  Is why I only have 1 monitor with me!)

 : Bob Crandell wrote:
 : Max could always drop it off at my office and Jamie could pick it up
 :  from there next time he is in the neighborhood.

On Sunday 02 November 2003 7:32 am, Linux Rocks ! wrote:
 Thats really great and everything, but I do have atleast one monitor in
 eugene, its really out here that I could use a monitor.

Max,

I could use an extra monitor here, and I also live near the fairgrounds.  
Gimme a call or post an email, and I can come over and get it most any time.

Thanks,

Ken
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-02 Thread Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
MacRenewal is cool, but they're for Macs only.  I'd wager there are 10 
times as much non-Mac equipment that could use a good tax-deductible 
home.  Plus, based on the website, MacRenewal appears to be sending the 
equipment to other communities.  I am thinking more locally.

Freecycle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreecycleEugene/ - neat idea.  
A Yahoo Group for offering and acquiring free stuff.  I joined, but 
based on the postings, not particularly oriented to computer equipment.  
Plus, if someone does not already have a computer, not a particularly 
useful tool.

Freegeek.org - Yeah, I was thinking exactly like that!  Though, I have 
to wonder about this:
You can recycle http://www.freegeek.org/recycle.php your old computer 
equipment. We accept any computers, in any condition; there is a $10 fee 
for all monitors.

That's even worse than the $5 St Vinny's wanted.  What's up with the fee 
for monitors?  Guess I'll ask FreeGeek.  Just out of curiosity, and not 
asking for any commitments, would anyone be interested in participating 
in something like FreeGeek for Eugene?  The biggest hurdle, aside from 
sufficient people-power, would be acquiring space for storage and testing.

M

Bob Miller wrote:

Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:

 

Having done this free stuff posting before, it occured to me that it 
might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane 
Society for computer equipment...  But entirely free, or close to 
that.  Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based systems, and 
donate them to those who might need them.
   



That would be my cue to mention MacRenewal. They're a local* nonprofit
that takes in old Macs, refurbishes them, and gives them to schools
and other needy groups.
Here's the web page.  http://www.macrenewal.org/

* local to Eugene, not to Jamie (-:
 

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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-02 Thread Ken Barber
On Sunday 02 November 2003 12:05, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp 
wrote:

 What's up
 with the fee for monitors?

They're considered a hazardous waste.  There is significant 
expense in disposing of them safely.

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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-02 Thread Linux Rocks !
On Sunday 02 November 2003 03:05 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
SNIP
: That's even worse than the $5 St Vinny's wanted.  What's up with the fee
: for monitors?  Guess I'll ask FreeGeek.  Just out of curiosity, and not
: asking for any commitments, would anyone be interested in participating
: in something like FreeGeek for Eugene?  The biggest hurdle, aside from
: sufficient people-power, would be acquiring space for storage and testing.

well.. actually, ed and I were going to look into it, but never got a chance 
to go up to portland and meet with the free geek guys... It does sound like a 
pretty cool thing, and might be fun too... 

Maybe these postings will stir up some interest!

Jamie
:
: M
:
: Bob Miller wrote:
: Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: Having done this free stuff posting before, it occured to me that it
: might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane
: Society for computer equipment...  But entirely free, or close to
: that.  Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based systems, and
: donate them to those who might need them.
: 
: That would be my cue to mention MacRenewal. They're a local* nonprofit
: that takes in old Macs, refurbishes them, and gives them to schools
: and other needy groups.
: 
: Here's the web page.  http://www.macrenewal.org/
: 
: 
: * local to Eugene, not to Jamie (-:

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[eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-01 Thread Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
Free for someone who is willing to pick it up:

1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor, I believe it's 70Mhz @ 1024x768.  Works 
fine no burn or screen scratches, it's just taking up desk space.  It 
does have some black ink splatters on the top, near the back.  Nothing 
that you would notice while using it though.

I live near the fairgrounds, for your logistical info.

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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-01 Thread Linux Rocks !
hey I could really use a monitor, but its a 3000 mile drive! (which Is why I 
only have 1 monitor with me!)

Dont hold the monitor for me, I have no idea when I'll be in driving distance!

Jamie


On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:08 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: Free for someone who is willing to pick it up:
:
: 1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor, I believe it's 70Mhz @ 1024x768.  Works
: fine no burn or screen scratches, it's just taking up desk space.  It
: does have some black ink splatters on the top, near the back.  Nothing
: that you would notice while using it though.
:
: I live near the fairgrounds, for your logistical info.
:
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-01 Thread Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
Ah.  Guess I should have said: Free for someone who is willing and able 
to pick it up in the reasonably near future:

Max

Linux Rocks ! wrote:

hey I could really use a monitor, but its a 3000 mile drive! (which Is why I 
only have 1 monitor with me!)

Dont hold the monitor for me, I have no idea when I'll be in driving distance!

Jamie

On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:08 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: Free for someone who is willing to pick it up:
:
: 1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor, I believe it's 70Mhz @ 1024x768.  Works
: fine no burn or screen scratches, it's just taking up desk space.  It
: does have some black ink splatters on the top, near the back.  Nothing
: that you would notice while using it though.
:
: I live near the fairgrounds, for your logistical info.
:
: Max Schwanekamp
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-01 Thread Linux Rocks !
heh... yeah... I could have fed ex pick it up... how much do you suppose that 
would cost!

Jamie

On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:35 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: Ah.  Guess I should have said: Free for someone who is willing and able
: to pick it up in the reasonably near future:
:
: Max
:
: Linux Rocks ! wrote:
: hey I could really use a monitor, but its a 3000 mile drive! (which Is why
:  I only have 1 monitor with me!)
: 
: Dont hold the monitor for me, I have no idea when I'll be in driving
:  distance!
: 
: Jamie
: 
: On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:08 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: : Free for someone who is willing to pick it up:
: :
: : 1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor, I believe it's 70Mhz @ 1024x768.  Works
: : fine no burn or screen scratches, it's just taking up desk space.  It
: : does have some black ink splatters on the top, near the back.  Nothing
: : that you would notice while using it though.
: :
: : I live near the fairgrounds, for your logistical info.
: :
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 I get the following error messages at bootup, could anyone tell me 
 what they mean?
 fcntl_setlk() called by process 51 (lpd) with broken flock() emulation
They mean that you have not read the documentation when upgrading the
kernel.
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-01 Thread Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
Tooo much!  More than buying one off eBay, certainly.  I got a quote 
of $65-70 to send it from here to a friend in Minnesota, and decided to 
just bag that idea.  PLUS the boxing and packing, ugh.  The going rate 
(incl shipping  handling) on eBay is $50.

Max

Linux Rocks ! wrote:

heh... yeah... I could have fed ex pick it up... how much do you suppose that 
would cost!

Jamie

On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:35 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: Ah.  Guess I should have said: Free for someone who is willing and able
: to pick it up in the reasonably near future:
:
: Max
:
: Linux Rocks ! wrote:
: hey I could really use a monitor, but its a 3000 mile drive! (which Is why
:  I only have 1 monitor with me!)
: 
: Dont hold the monitor for me, I have no idea when I'll be in driving
:  distance!
: 
: Jamie
: 
: On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:08 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: : Free for someone who is willing to pick it up:
: :
: : 1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor, I believe it's 70Mhz @ 1024x768.  Works
: : fine no burn or screen scratches, it's just taking up desk space.  It
: : does have some black ink splatters on the top, near the back.  Nothing
: : that you would notice while using it though.
: :
: : I live near the fairgrounds, for your logistical info.
: :
: : Max Schwanekamp
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-01 Thread Bob Crandell
Max could always drop it off at my office and Jamie could pick it up from there next
time he is in the neighborhood.

Bob

Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

heh... yeah... I could have fed ex pick it up... how much do you suppose that
would cost!

Jamie

On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:35 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: Ah.  Guess I should have said: Free for someone who is willing and able
: to pick it up in the reasonably near future:
:
: Max
:
: Linux Rocks ! wrote:
: hey I could really use a monitor, but its a 3000 mile drive! (which Is why
:  I only have 1 monitor with me!)
: 
: Dont hold the monitor for me, I have no idea when I'll be in driving
:  distance!
: 
: Jamie
: 
: On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:08 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: : Free for someone who is willing to pick it up:
: :
: : 1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor, I believe it's 70Mhz @ 1024x768.  Works
: : fine no burn or screen scratches, it's just taking up desk space.  It
: : does have some black ink splatters on the top, near the back.  Nothing
: : that you would notice while using it though.
: :
: : I live near the fairgrounds, for your logistical info.
: :
: : Max Schwanekamp
: : ___
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: : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I get the following error messages at bootup, could anyone tell me
 what they mean?
 fcntl_setlk() called by process 51 (lpd) with broken flock() emulation
They mean that you have not read the documentation when upgrading the
kernel.
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-01 Thread Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
I should tell my slightly amusing story on this - I tried to donate it 
to the Goodwill on Coburg Rd, and they don't accept (and will soon stop 
selling) computer parts anymore.  I called EFN, and they did not want 
it, but suggested St Vinny's on Seneca.  Tried there, but they wanted me 
to give them $5 in addition to giving them the monitor!  (Or any other 
computer equipment for that matter).  Sure we'll accept your gift, but 
you have to pay us for the effort of pricing it and putting it on a 
shelf.  That irked me, so here I am looking for a home for this 
monitor!  Seriously though, Jamie if you really want another monitor, I 
would be happy to drop it off.

Having done this free stuff posting before, it occured to me that it 
might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane 
Society for computer equipment...  But entirely free, or close to 
that.  Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based systems, and 
donate them to those who might need them.

Max

Bob Crandell wrote:

Max could always drop it off at my office and Jamie could pick it up from there next
time he is in the neighborhood.
Bob

Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 

heh... yeah... I could have fed ex pick it up... how much do you suppose that
would cost!
Jamie

On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:35 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: Ah.  Guess I should have said: Free for someone who is willing and able
: to pick it up in the reasonably near future:
:
: Max
:
: Linux Rocks ! wrote:
: hey I could really use a monitor, but its a 3000 mile drive! (which Is why
:  I only have 1 monitor with me!)
: 
: Dont hold the monitor for me, I have no idea when I'll be in driving
:  distance!
: 
: Jamie
: 
: On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:08 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: : Free for someone who is willing to pick it up:
: :
: : 1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor, I believe it's 70Mhz @ 1024x768.  Works
: : fine no burn or screen scratches, it's just taking up desk space.  It
: : does have some black ink splatters on the top, near the back.  Nothing
: : that you would notice while using it though.
: :
: : I live near the fairgrounds, for your logistical info.
: :
: : Max Schwanekamp
: : ___
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: : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I get the following error messages at bootup, could anyone tell me
what they mean?
fcntl_setlk() called by process 51 (lpd) with broken flock() emulation
 

They mean that you have not read the documentation when upgrading the
kernel.
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-01 Thread Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
Yikes. SCOPE!!  I should say, I would be happy to drop it off with Bob, 
as he suggested.

M

Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:

I should tell my slightly amusing story on this - I tried to donate it 
to the Goodwill on Coburg Rd, and they don't accept (and will soon 
stop selling) computer parts anymore.  I called EFN, and they did not 
want it, but suggested St Vinny's on Seneca.  Tried there, but they 
wanted me to give them $5 in addition to giving them the monitor!  (Or 
any other computer equipment for that matter).  Sure we'll accept 
your gift, but you have to pay us for the effort of pricing it and 
putting it on a shelf.  That irked me, so here I am looking for a 
home for this monitor!  Seriously though, Jamie if you really want 
another monitor, I would be happy to drop it off.

Having done this free stuff posting before, it occured to me that it 
might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane 
Society for computer equipment...  But entirely free, or close to 
that.  Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based systems, 
and donate them to those who might need them.

Max

Bob Crandell wrote:

Max could always drop it off at my office and Jamie could pick it up 
from there next
time he is in the neighborhood.

Bob

Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 

heh... yeah... I could have fed ex pick it up... how much do you 
suppose that
would cost!

Jamie

On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:35 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp 
wrote:
: Ah.  Guess I should have said: Free for someone who is willing 
and able
: to pick it up in the reasonably near future:
:
: Max
:
: Linux Rocks ! wrote:
: hey I could really use a monitor, but its a 3000 mile drive! 
(which Is why
:  I only have 1 monitor with me!)
: 
: Dont hold the monitor for me, I have no idea when I'll be in driving
:  distance!
: 
: Jamie
: 
: On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:08 pm, Maximillian Von 
Schwanekamp wrote:
: : Free for someone who is willing to pick it up:
: :
: : 1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor, I believe it's 70Mhz @ 1024x768.  
Works
: : fine no burn or screen scratches, it's just taking up desk 
space.  It
: : does have some black ink splatters on the top, near the back.  
Nothing
: : that you would notice while using it though.
: :
: : I live near the fairgrounds, for your logistical info.
: :
: : Max Schwanekamp
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I get the following error messages at bootup, could anyone tell me
what they mean?
fcntl_setlk() called by process 51 (lpd) with broken flock() emulation

They mean that you have not read the documentation when upgrading the
kernel.
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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-01 Thread Bob Miller
Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:

 Having done this free stuff posting before, it occured to me that it 
 might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane 
 Society for computer equipment...  But entirely free, or close to 
 that.  Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based systems, and 
 donate them to those who might need them.


That would be my cue to mention MacRenewal. They're a local* nonprofit
that takes in old Macs, refurbishes them, and gives them to schools
and other needy groups.

Here's the web page.  http://www.macrenewal.org/


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Re: [eug-lug]Free Monitor

2003-11-01 Thread Bob Crandell
I'm sharing an office with Muhleim, Boyd and Carroll at 88 E. Broadway.  Just tell
the nice lady that it's for me and I'll store it away for Jamie.

Maximillian Von Schwanekamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

I should tell my slightly amusing story on this - I tried to donate it
to the Goodwill on Coburg Rd, and they don't accept (and will soon stop
selling) computer parts anymore.  I called EFN, and they did not want
it, but suggested St Vinny's on Seneca.  Tried there, but they wanted me
to give them $5 in addition to giving them the monitor!  (Or any other
computer equipment for that matter).  Sure we'll accept your gift, but
you have to pay us for the effort of pricing it and putting it on a
shelf.  That irked me, so here I am looking for a home for this
monitor!  Seriously though, Jamie if you really want another monitor, I
would be happy to drop it off.

Having done this free stuff posting before, it occured to me that it
might be of some use to the community to provide a sort of Humane
Society for computer equipment...  But entirely free, or close to
that.  Could make an active effort to assemble Linux-based systems, and
donate them to those who might need them.

Max


Bob Crandell wrote:

Max could always drop it off at my office and Jamie could pick it up from there next
time he is in the neighborhood.

Bob

Linux Rocks ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:


heh... yeah... I could have fed ex pick it up... how much do you suppose that
would cost!

Jamie

On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:35 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: Ah.  Guess I should have said: Free for someone who is willing and able
: to pick it up in the reasonably near future:
:
: Max
:
: Linux Rocks ! wrote:
: hey I could really use a monitor, but its a 3000 mile drive! (which Is why
:  I only have 1 monitor with me!)
: 
: Dont hold the monitor for me, I have no idea when I'll be in driving
:  distance!
: 
: Jamie
: 
: On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:08 pm, Maximillian Von Schwanekamp wrote:
: : Free for someone who is willing to pick it up:
: :
: : 1 HP 55 15inch SVGA monitor, I believe it's 70Mhz @ 1024x768.  Works
: : fine no burn or screen scratches, it's just taking up desk space.  It
: : does have some black ink splatters on the top, near the back.  Nothing
: : that you would notice while using it though.
: :
: : I live near the fairgrounds, for your logistical info.
: :
: : Max Schwanekamp
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what they mean?
fcntl_setlk() called by process 51 (lpd) with broken flock() emulation


They mean that you have not read the documentation when upgrading the
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