The two basic theologies
A Theology for Atheists There are two opposing forces in the universe, those which enhance life, which we call Good, and those which diminish life, which we call Evil. As evidenced, these can be present in both happenings and in people. We have the freedom to support either cause or not support one. -- A Theology for Theists The same holds as above, with the addition that there is some overriding intelligence which causes the happenings, good or evil, either preferably or acceptably. It can also read and/or inform our hearts. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/1/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: The two basic theologies
On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 10:08:36 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: A Theology for Atheists There are two opposing forces in the universe, those which enhance life, which we call Good, and those which diminish life, which we call Evil. Enhance whose life though? Would slavery Good or Evil? What about promiscuity or dessert or yeast? Is cell division good or evil? Who determines what 'enhanced' or 'diminished' means? As evidenced, these can be present in both happenings and in people. We have the freedom to support either cause or not support one. Don't we support both at all times, just by being alive? -- A Theology for Theists The same holds as above, with the addition that there is some overriding intelligence which causes the happenings, good or evil, either preferably or acceptably. It can also read and/or inform our hearts. -- [Roger Clough], [rcl...@verizon.net javascript:] 1/1/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/vlrEDOoV6-oJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
The evolution of good and evil
The evolution of good and evil There are two opposing forces in the universe, those which enhance life, which we call Good, and those which diminish life, which we call Evil. Thus it is not surprising that Mankind has two basic motivating feelings, love, which strives to enhance life, being goodness, and fear, which causes him to avoid enhancing or even diminishing life, being essentially evil. Those who believe in God believe that he has placed these two basic emotions in man so that we may fear and love God, to fear doing evil as well as to love him and do good. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/1/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Re: The two basic theologies
Hi Craig Weinberg CRAIG: Enhance whose life though? ROGER: Anybody's life. CRAIG: Would slavery Good or Evil? ROGER: The masters diminish the life of the slaves. The slaves have their lives diminished. So there's no good in it at all. CRAIG: What about promiscuity or dessert or yeast? ROGER: Promiscuity diminishes the value of love and commitment, hence of life. I have no opinions on dessert or yeast. CRAIG: Is cell division good or evil? I would say that growth of healthy cells is goog because they enhance life. And growth of cancer cells is evil or bad because they can cause death. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/1/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-01, 15:03:10 Subject: Re: The two basic theologies On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 10:08:36 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: A Theology for Atheists There are two opposing forces in the universe, those which enhance life, which we call Good, and those which diminish life, which we call Evil. Enhance whose life though? Would slavery Good or Evil? What about promiscuity or dessert or yeast? Is cell division good or evil? Who determines what 'enhanced' or 'diminished' means? As evidenced, these can be present in both happenings and in people. We have the freedom to support either cause or not support one. Don't we support both at all times, just by being alive? -- A Theology for Theists The same holds as above, with the addition that there is some overriding intelligence which causes the happenings, good or evil, either preferably or acceptably. It can also read and/or inform our hearts. -- [Roger Clough], [rcl...@verizon.net] 1/1/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/vlrEDOoV6-oJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Re: The two basic theologies
On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 4:14:18 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg CRAIG: Enhance whose life though? ROGER: Anybody's life. Disinfectants destroy microbiotic life. CRAIG: Would slavery Good or Evil? ROGER: The masters diminish the life of the slaves. The slaves have their lives diminished. So there's no good in it at all. The slaves enhance the lives of their masters. Their masters have their lives enhanced. So there's as much good in it as not. CRAIG: What about promiscuity or dessert or yeast? ROGER: Promiscuity diminishes the value of love and commitment, hence of life. I have no opinions on dessert or yeast. Promiscuity without contraception enhances the number of pregnancies. If you have no opinion on the others, does that mean that they don't fit into the good/evil dichotomy? CRAIG: Is cell division good or evil? I would say that growth of healthy cells is goog because they enhance life. And growth of cancer cells is evil or bad because they can cause death. Cancer cells enhance their own life. [Roger Clough], [rcl...@verizon.net] javascript: 1/1/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - *From:* Craig Weinberg javascript: *Receiver:* everything-list javascript: *Time:* 2013-01-01, 15:03:10 *Subject:* Re: The two basic theologies On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 10:08:36 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: A Theology for Atheists There are two opposing forces in the universe, those which enhance life, which we call Good, and those which diminish life, which we call Evil. Enhance whose life though? Would slavery Good or Evil? What about promiscuity or dessert or yeast? Is cell division good or evil? Who determines what 'enhanced' or 'diminished' means? As evidenced, these can be present in both happenings and in people. We have the freedom to support either cause or not support one. Don't we support both at all times, just by being alive? -- A Theology for Theists The same holds as above, with the addition that there is some overriding intelligence which causes the happenings, good or evil, either preferably or acceptably. It can also read and/or inform our hearts. -- [Roger Clough], [rcl...@verizon.net] 1/1/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/vlrEDOoV6-oJ. To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/fnlB3WkwxW8J. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Steiner View of Hard Problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dlBROdVjjI Same as mine, really, except I use the concept of 'sense' rather than 'spirit'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/xM1em1byl7kJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: The evolution of good and evil
On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 4:05:15 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote: The evolution of good and evil There are two opposing forces in the universe, those which enhance life, which we call Good, and those which diminish life, which we call Evil. I can't really relate to cut and dried ideas of Good and Evil or enhancing or diminishing of life. It seems completely disconnected from reality to me. If it was that obvious, why wouldn't everyone just do the Good things and avoid Evil things? Obviously our experiences have many layers and qualities which change dynamically. Anything can be interpreted as enhancing or diminishing life. Chemotherapy Good or Evil? Thus it is not surprising that Mankind has two basic motivating feelings, love, which strives to enhance life, being goodness, and fear, which causes him to avoid enhancing or even diminishing life, being essentially evil. Those who believe in God believe that he has placed these two basic emotions in man so that we may fear and love God, to fear doing evil as well as to love him and do good. [Roger Clough], [rcl...@verizon.net javascript:] 1/1/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/ePt2Uf7MeNsJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
