Re: [Evolution-hackers] Exchange Connector folder tree
1) What *exactly* does the evolution-test-component do ? create_view_fn looks as if there is supposed to be a visual display but I can't see how to get Evolution to call this. When it calls evolution_shell_component_new, it passes the folder_types array and create_view_fn. folder_types tells the shell what kinds of folders this component handles creating views for, and create_view_fn is the function that will be called when the shell needs a view for one of that type of folder. Then, when the shellcomponent emits owner_set, the test component calls setup_custom_storage, which creates a new storage in the folder tree with some folders of type test, and when you click on one of those folders, create_view_fn will be invoked. (Note that Connector does not have any create_view_fn though, since it doesn't create any views of its own. It just creates a storage containing mail, calendar, contact, and task views.) 2) I am assuming that the Exchange connector is set up as a separate storage. How is the creation of an account handled in the setup druid ? I know that the camel provider will register itself by having various provider flags set. Part of Connector is a Camel provider, which gets registered like any other provider and finds its way into the account config dialog that way. The evolution-exchange-storage process reads the configuration database at startup to see if there is an exchange account, and also listens for changes (using bonobo-conf in 1.0/1.2 and gconf in 1.4). -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Exchange Connector folder tree
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 11:25, Dave Kelly wrote: I've been searching through the archives and found a few messages relating the the Exchange Connector and the fact that it uses GNOME:Evolution:ShellComponent to manipulate the interface. Can anyone give me some examples on how this is achieved ? I'm interested in how to create the folder tree with different folder types and then to call the appropriate handler for the folder, i.e. evolution-calendar, evolution-mail, evolution-addressbook. Each component registers the types of folders that it handles. So to create a folder that will be handled by evolution-calendar, just use type calendar, etc. (You will of course also have to provide a calendar backend that can handle requests for your folder URLs, to provide the calendar UI with the relevant data.) -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] server.in-coherence
In serveral places, we currently do: * foo.server.in.in: Contains @libexecdir@ and no translations * foo.server.in: Has $libexecdir substituted in and no translations * foo.server: Has $libexecdir substituted in and has translations But foo.server.in is in DISTFILES, meaning the dist tarball will have a hardcoded prefix in it. Since the intltool rule will only do server.in - server, and that step has to happen at dist time, I think we need to use an install-hook to modify foo.server as we install it. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] conduits
This has led me to believe that it's going to involve either (a) writing an appropriate conduit for gnome-pilot (which I'm not sure will handle talking to a Zaurus and haven't had time to research); (b) extend gnome-pilot to work with a Zaurus and then do (a); or (c) write an analog to gnome-pilot which works for the Zaurus. I suspect the right answer is c (plus making Evolution talk to your gnome-pilot analog), though I'm also not really familiar with gnome-pilot If you'd like, we could tag-team this research. However, I doubt that folks on this list are interested in this as it doesn't directly relate to Evo code. Having a more generic evolution sync architecture is definitely of interest to us. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] Re: [evolution-patches] [PATCH] Calendar Leaks
I have a similar case in GTK 1.2's GtkInvisible widget, which refs and sinks itself on creation - it's reported as a leak, although it's being destroyed in Evo. The code should be unreffing it, not destroying it. Destroy doesn't explicitly unref the widget, it's just that normally destroying a widget will cause its parent to unref it. Since the invisible doesn't have a parent, it still has a refcount of 1 after being destroyed, so it doesn't get finalized, causing the leak. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] Small quirklets in Evolution 1.0.8
impossible == programmatically impossible Why? Just ignore him. The plan is to have cut+paste work right at some point, but I don't know when. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Small quirklets in Evolution 1.0.8
Number two is the problem. Gnome, KDE, and umpteen other WM's all have slightly different ways of implementing their cut-and-paste. This was true in the bad old days, but in these enlightened times, all sane widget toolkit implementors (including the gtk and Qt hackers, plus mozilla, XEmacs, etc) know that the One True Cut and Paste Behavior is the one discussed at http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/clipboards.txt So things should only get better from here on out. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Small quirklets in Evolution 1.0.8
No, when I said impossible, I meant impossible. You obviously have never worked with Unix, X, and Bonobo before, have you? ;-) Yes, I have. For many years, as a matter of fact, having been in this business for over 25 years as an engineer. I've worked with several flavors of UNIX and with X as a programmer/engineer, doing some quite complex things. flame Instead of shooting your mouth about how clever you are He was responding to a direct question. Please flame elsewhere. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] OT: Calendar format and servers
* what is the difference between iCal and vcalendar formats ? Is there a place I can go to learn more specifics about the formats? Is there a single standard, or if not is there one format that is more popular than the other? vCalendar is an older standard created by an industry consortium. iCalendar is the current IETF standard that is based on it. iCalendar is basically vCalendar 2.0 (and if you look at your Evo calendar.ics file, you'll see that the first line is BEGIN:VCALENDAR and a few lines down is VERSION:2.0.) The basic format is defined by RFC 2445, and RFCs 2446 and 2447 describe the additions for doing email-based scheduling. * any recommendations on a good shared calendaring solution? One of our criteria is the ability for us to access and change the calendar while on the road, which probably means web interface. I'm also pushing strongly for open standards, and am trying to push away from Outbreak/Expunge. Having the calendaring integrated with e-mail and being able to sync with Palm are also important. For a client, I wish I could push Evo, but most of our users are on Windows... The IETF calendaring and scheduling working group is working on a standard called CAP (Calendar Access Protocol), which will be the open standard for calendar servers. But it's not progressing very quickly so there aren't going to be clients and servers that support it any time soon. Until then, there really isn't much in the way of open standards for calendaring. The only calendar server I know of that has Windows, Linux, and web clients is Exchange. If you don't mind making at least the Linux users use the web interface then there are more options. SuSE's email server has a web-based calendar system, as does Sun ONE (formerly iPlanet). I'm not sure about what sort of functionality Steltor and MeetingMaker have. There are also a handful of free web-based systems in various states of completion (phpGroupWare, TUTOS). -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evoloution and Outlook tasks, connectorissue
that would implement the same APIs to make Connector do its bidding. But it wouldn't be easy. Depending on how much functionality you needed, it would probably be easier to use Exchange's WebDAV interfaces directly, or to reuse parts of the OWA interface. Sorry for offtopic question - what do you guys think about Exchange's WebDAV - will one miss a lot of Exchange functionality (not considering email - only tasks/contacts/appointments/etc) if he uses Exchange's WebDAV interface? Basic calendar and contacts functionality is pretty well-documented. (MS seems to have mostly envisioned the WebDAV interface as being for interfacing custom web apps to peoples' Exchange calendars.) More complicated stuff is... well, more complicated. And tasks are completely undocumented. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] Mail Client for Exchange 5.5 on linux
On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 21:24, Subramani, GnanaShekar (MED, TCS) wrote: Hi all, My organisation has Exchange 5.5 mail servers. I am using linux 8.0 with ximian evolution 1.0.8. Ximian evolutions is not as easy as outlook to configure (I need to secify the details of incoming and outgoing mailserver), on top of it I am unable to browse the address book. You can browse the address book. You just need to configure it as an LDAP server. Switch to a Contacts folder and then do Tools - Addressbook Sources. The Exchange server is the LDAP server, and I don't think you need to use authentication. Your sysadmin should be able to help you with the other settings. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] (no subject)
On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 03:10, Jason Grimsman wrote: I recently decided to run the 2.5.x kernel, and after installing it, evolution would freeze whenever i hit the reply buttons, and usually when i hit the new button...It also happened when i would try to view the calendar or contacts. That sounds like a problem with oaf activation. (When you open the composer it needs to activate the HTML editor control, and when you open calendar or contacts it needs to start the calendar/contact backend.) It's impossible to guess what the exact problem is though. In general, people have not had much luck running evolution with unstable kernels in the past. Unless you want to sit down with gdb and find the problem yourself, your best bet is to wait until it's closer to being stable. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] How do I point evo to a different location for itsdata?
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 20:23, Kenneth Porter wrote: On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 19:18, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: everything is in ~/evolution Would it work to say: export HOME=/some/other/place ; evolution That would cause evo to look somewhere else, but it would also cause lots of other things to look somewhere else, and would probably cause problems. Another possibility is to symlink /some/other/place/evolution to ~/evolution. That should work. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution-hackers] about building evolution with Kylix onlinux
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 05:50, Antonio Xu wrote: Hello, All I have tried to build evolution with Kylix's c complier, but I was failed If there are bits of non-ANSI-compliant code, please submit patches to fix them. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Another possible RFC 2046 vulnerability.]
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 11:48, Richard Bellavance wrote: I hope support for this aberration will not be integrated into Evolution... It's not an aberration, and it's not a security hole. The only reason why some people consider this a security problem is because they were trying to pretend that you can make insecure email clients secure by just filtering what gets to them. Surprise! You can't! At least, 1.0.8 does not seem to support it. Evo actually did used to support message/external-body. (The code bitrotted when the attachment display code changed somewhere around 0.9.) It displayed the attachment as a link you could click on if you wanted to fetch the body. And so if someone sent you a message with an external-body pointing to a trojan horse program, then when you click on it... it would ask you what directory you wanted to save the file in. Exactly the same as if it arrived in an attachment. No security problem here. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Mouse Pointer
Did you change anything involving your windowmanager? Or if it's a clock icon now, did you install some launch feedback hack? Whatever the problem is, it's not in evo. -- Dan On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 15:05, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: Something weird happened in the last week or two (I think it's a gal issue). After one CVS retrieval, most of the drop-down menus (non-sticky folder list, signature picking list, new drop down list, etc.) started using the default X pointer (the one that looks like a large X). A day or two after that, the pointer changed to what it is now, the clock pointer. It is very hard trying to select something from a drop-down list with the pointer looking like a clock. Not to mention that the lower right edge of the clock is where the selection takes place. Any ideas? TTFN, Lonnie Borntreger ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Free/Busy question
I see gnome-vfs retrieve the file from the server, but no free/busy information is displayed. Works fine if the freebusy data is on local disk and you use a file: URL. But it also doesn't work for me over http. File a bug. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Other Contacts
evolution-shell-WARNING **: e_folder_type_registry_get_icon_for_type() -- Unknown type `ldap-contacts' my bad. fixed tomorrow. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] Why this rdf can be found?
On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 12:00, iain wrote: On Thu, 2002-09-26 at 04:36, Calvin Liu wrote: Every time I start evolution, the summary page reports: Error downloading RDF: https://rhn.redhat.com/rpc/recent-errata.pxt Why did this happen? Any reason concerned with proxy settings? libsoup does't handle https? No, it does. But maybe he's talking about 1.0, in which case the answer may be gnome-vfs doesn't handle https? -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] contacts in a contact?
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 10:03, Martin Klaffenböck wrote: Hello, What is the contact thing for, in the contact editor? Should I enter there the person where I know this person knows them? And Why? Does this help me somewhere? It was copied from Outlook without any understanding of what it was for. :-} It's supposed to be used for linking contacts and appointments to contacts. In Outlook, when you open a contact, you can get a list of all contacts and appointments (and journal entries and public folder posts) that link to it. In Evolution it's pretty much just this field that you can type stuff in if you want. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Follow-up flags and labels in mail headers
It's nice to see the label and follow-up flag feature; they are quite useful. Unfortunately the data for those features seems to be stored locally (can someone tell me where?) In the summary for the folder, somewhere under ~/evolution/mail/imap/ -- is there a reason why it couldn't be stored in the mail header on the server if the store is IMAP, say as X-Evolution-Label or X-Evolution-Followup fields? Well, you can't modify the message on the server, so you'd have to delete the original and post a new one. (Which, FTR, is exactly what Outlook does if you flag a message in an IMAP folder.) The right long-term answer is to use IMAP annotations, which are basically designed exactly for this. Problem is, no servers support them yet. :) Another possibility would be to try to use flags. Theoretically, servers should let you add arbitrary flags to messages, so you could flag a message with x-evolution-flag=Rm9sbG93dXA= (that's base64 since you can't have spaces and some punctuation in a flag name). But I wouldn't be surprised if some servers didn't like that (and some, like Courier, don't let you use custom flags at all). Evolution has all these great features and I find that I just can't use them because of the way I work. (Separate installs at home, at work, and on my laptop.) It's increasingly obvious that there needs to be some framework to at least sync different copies of Evo. Is anyone working on something like this? If not, I may have a go at it. Not that I know of. It would be nice to separate out some of the palm syncing code into a generic syncing framework and then have the palm sync and the evo-evo sync (and the T68i sync!) use that. There are also some changes that would need to be made to the syncing architecture: right now the backends only allow for a single sync destination and if you tried to have another one, then changes would get randomly split between them... -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Received order, versus unordered
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 13:27, Zot O'Connor wrote: I remember before imap, I would leave my box ordered, or order in which which it was received. POP and mbox allows this, well since you are loading a local file. It seems that IMAP may make this impossible Nope, works just like it does with POP/IMAP. Just don't sort on any column. (Right-click on a column header and choose Unsort.) -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Follow-up flags and labels in mail headers
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 13:30, Zot O'Connor wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 06:13, Jason Tackaberry wrote: Hi again, It's nice to see the label and follow-up flag feature; they are quite useful. Can someone give a quick explanation of how to use them? Do I need the fields in the view? right-click on a message in the message list and choose Follow up You can then give it a tag like Follow up or Reply or Review, and optionally a due date. Then when you look at the message (though not right away if it's already being displayed), you'll see the flag info at the top of the message, reminding you of whatever it's reminding you of. If you add the columns to the message list, then you can see the info without selecting the message, but you don't need to add them to use the feature. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] evo 1.0.8
Could not create composer window: Unable to activate HTML editor components. The error from the activation system is: Nothing matched the requirements Huh? It all worked before the upgrade (which I did using red carpet). What versions of evolution and gtkhtml did you end up with? -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Saving in-line attachments
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 16:35, Kenneth Porter wrote: I got an HTML-only message from a friend that included a bunch of image attachments shown in the message body. Is there some way to save the images individually? right click on them for a context menu -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome2 evolution + pgp
On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 19:18, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: Evolution doesn't use seahorse (or any of it's code) to do GPG support, That's not really true. The original patch for evolution gpg support included a large chunk of seahorse code, and there are still some recognizable pieces left. camel-gpg-context.c:gpg_ctx_op_wait() in Evolution is clearly derived from gpg-interface.c:cleanup_child() in Seahorse, for instance. They still even have some of the same comments. (send a friendly reminder, use brute force) -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Composer - dropdown entry.
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 06:35, Craig Knox wrote: Hi, I've been looking for the place in the code that evolution does the drop down list of possible address in the To/From/Etc. It's all over the place. The widget code is in gal/gal/e-text (particularly the e-completion-* stuff). The addressbook-specific bits are in evolution/addressbook/gui/component/select-names, particularly the e-select-names-completion* stuff. The composer uses bonobo to embed the addressbook widgets into the composer window. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] Evolution-1.1.1 beta build error
pas-backend.h:27:29: pas/addressbook.h: No such file or directory This has to do with some version of automake being broken. If you go to addressbook/backend/pas and type make addressbook.h, it will make it, and then you can do make and it will chug happily along until it gets to the next one of those, and you have to do the same thing again. This should all be fixed better in the beta2 srpm... -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] evolution 1.2 beta
fre 2002-09-20 klockan 15.20 skrev Not Zed: alphanumeric keys now jump to matches in the column you're currently sorting on. Which makes it pretty useless.. at least for me. I sort on Date and if evey date is Yesterday ##:## it doesnt mather how many times I press Y I could just press Down. Yeah, the idea isn't that people are going to normally sort on a column where this is useful, it's that IF you want to quickly find a message with a given subject or from a particular user, you can sort by that column, type a few keys, and then sort back to your standard order. This is how Outlook behaves, and in usability testing on 1.0, this is how every single ex-Outlook user that we tested tried to find messages when given a task like find the message from bob (where they were supposed to use the search bar). So we put it into 1.2 since we were only using three letter keys before, and one of them didn't make any sense except to Pine users anyway. Yes, the current next/prev/toggle preview bindings totally suck, but that doesn't mean that the new behavior isn't useful or that they can't be fixed. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Attachment saving question
This is a bug in gtk. Ximian's gtk package is patched to fix it, so if you install that (or find the SRPM on ftp.ximian.com and rebuild it yourself or whatever), it should fix it. -- Dan On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 10:04, Robert Floyd wrote: I'm running Evolution under KDE without difficulty except for one little annoyance. When I save an attachment, the Save Attachment dialog loses the file name as soon as I select a directory. When I hit OK and get the subsequent error message, I can save again with the correct directory. What is the proper way to use the Save Attachment dialog under KDE? TIA, Robert Floyd Durham, NC USA ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Custom Summary Page
On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 20:22, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: If I wanted to customize the layout of the summary page, what file would I have to change? You can't. We were originally going to have a customizable summary page, but it got too close to 1.0 and we didn't have time to finish it, so we went with a hardcoded summary layout instead. The old code is still in the source tree, but it didn't get touched for 1.2 either. Or, assuming you meant how could you customize it if you built evolution yourself, it would be the stuff in evolution/my-evolution. (The directory was never renamed to match the component.) -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Questions about evolution's exchange connector
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 15:45, Daniel Curry wrote: How can I get more than one exchange mailbox into Evolution ? You can't. It was supposed to be fixed in 1.2, but it won't be (although you can at least open other people's folders in 1.2 if you have permission). When can I expect access to public folders? 1.2. Not sure when the target release date is. (Definitely before the end of the year.) How do I utilize the LDAP connectors to grab information from Exchange/AD? I'm not sure what you mean by the LDAP connectors. The Global Address List folder is populated from AD. You can do searches there. Where can I find additional update information about the continuing progress of Evolution and Exchange integration? Hm... not sure there's an answer to that. Connector 1.2 will add: * Public folders * Ability to open other users' folders / edit permissions on your own folders. * Direct booking of resource accounts (eg, conference rooms. If you have to select the account as a Resource when scheduling it in Outlook, then you're using this feature) * Some support for delegation * Email address autocompletion from the GAL (if you want it) * Various other minor things, plus some speed improvements and a bunch of bugfixes. Is this the correct list for these questions? Yes. You can also contact our support department using support.ximian.com and the registration info included with your Connector license. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Free Busy solution?
Any other method out there to implement FB and group scheduling with Evo only and not Exchange? Someone on evolution-hackers was working on automated free/busy publishing. There's a bug open about it (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16567) -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] SMTP AUTH and Evo
GSSAPI is what provides Kerberos V, yes? Yes I've asked about this on the list a couple of times. I've seen other people ask about it. Yeah, it's not that no one's asked about it, it's that 1. GSSAPI is about 10 times more complicated than Kerberos 4, and 2. We've never had a krb5 IMAP or POP server to test against Kerberos networks are hardly rare, and becoming more common. Linux boxes in a WinY2k domain are almost certainly using Kerberos V. But Exchange 2000 doesn't do SASL GSSAPI for POP and IMAP, so having Evo support krb5 won't actually help most of them. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] duplicate contacts????
I got another duplicate contact warning that makes absolutely no sense to me at all: EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm guessing that must be what's causing it, though that's pretty lame. Can you file a bug at bugzilla.ximian.com and include the two vcf files? -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Automatically publishing FREE_BUSYinformation.
I clean up in the destroy callback, what happens is the app gets a SIG is this handled already somewhere in the evolution,gnome libs used? Destroy never gets called in my tests, what do I wrong? I'm not sure what you mean. Any pointers on an easy way to use evolution conf to store parameters, like the web-dav server password for updates, dav server You should use e-util/e-passwords.h for passwords, and the wombat config moniker for other stuff. Um... mail/mail-config.c has some examples. In 1.2, the app can create a page for itself in the global preferences dialog. Evolution uses the beginning of the day in UTC for the publishing start time, can't this be a problem for some time zones? I use local time and calculate back my start of the day to UTC. Correct me if I'm wrong. Makes sense. RFC 2445 states that the FREEBUSY times _should_ not must be in sorted order start,end. Evolution doesn't seem to sort but rather gives it back in creation order, any body got problems with that? Sorting would be better... How can I start my pgm automatically with evolution? Register it as a calendar backend. See wombat/ for details (although that is also an addressbook backend and a config backend). I'm working right now, when ever I have time, to eliminate davfs to avoid kernel dependencies and make it more portable. Still haven't ruled out gnome-vfs, but neon is my first choice right now for a stable dav connection and functionality. Use soup. Evolution already requires it in 1.2. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] How to access Outlook NetFolders with Evolution?
No, that means that an Outlook user can schedule a meeting and send out an iCalendar meeting request, and Evolution can understand that, update your calendar, and send back a confirmation. Or vice versa. I don't know that I would define that as create and confirm group meetings _online_, nor is that peer-to-peer, but then, perhaps that functionality will be implemented in a later revision. It is certainly peer-to-peer. It is as peer-to-peer as you can get. You create a meeting, and send it to your peers. Your peers send it back to you. No calendar server required. I agree that the word online has no business being there. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Bugzilla/QA questions
1. If you mark a bug Future because it misses the feature freeze for a release, is anyone going to look at it afterwards? In theory, yes, but as you've noticed, it often ends up meaning Never, as people fail to take into account the difference between bugs that were marked Future before 1.0 and bugs that were marked Future after 1.0. 2. Is it ok for us lowly user-testers to set the milestone field (eg, in cases like the above)? Only if you're planning to write the code. If you think a bug has been mistakenly lost, a better thing to do would be to just add a comment to it, which will result in the maintainers getting mail about it, thereby calling it to their attention. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Filtering incomming messages with IMAP mailbox
I've switched to from POP to IMAP over the past day, and the one difference that is really annoying that I haven't been able to figure out so far is when I get new mail, it all goes to the INBOX, and only after I click on the INBOX does all the mail get sorted based on my filters. That's because that is where your SERVER delivers the mail. In IMAP land, you are only able to ever have a single folder open at a time and so we cannot filter INBOX when you are reading MyOtherFolder. Nah. The current behavior is gratuitously annoying: you see INBOX (3) in the folder tree or shortcut bar, and then you have to click on INBOX and it moves the messages. If Evo knows you have three messages in your inbox, it should filter them right away. There's a bug filed about this already. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] So...I just bought Connector... (resend)
On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 11:50, Paul Crossman wrote: I'm not seeing a difference in operation between evolution and connector. What did I just pay $70 for? Am I missing something? Do I run evolution differently now? Connector is only for accessing Exchange 2000 servers, so if you're not doing that, you're not going to see any difference (and presumably will want to return the product). If you are using Exchange 2000, you'll want to reconfigure your account settings to have an account of type Microsoft Exchange, and restart evolution, and then your Exchange folders (mail, calendar, and contacts) should all show up and be usable. If you're having problems getting it to work, you can contact our tech support people using the information that was emailed to you when you bought it. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution not recognizing /etc/aliases file
Evolution version 1.0.3 (came with RH 7.2, I think) does not seem to ackowledge the sendmail /etc/aliases file. I have access to 1.0.5 at my house, but I have not verified if the problem exists there as well. Yes, evolution does not read your /etc/aliases, just like it doesn't read your inetd.conf or XF86config. I'm not sure what you're expecting it to do...? If you just need to be able to send mail to aliases defined there, then configure your account to use sendmail rather than SMTP to send mail, and it will just work. If you want to make the composer autocomplete addresses out of /etc/aliases, then no, there's no way to make it do that currently. It would be possible to write a backend that would do that though. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution not recognizing /etc/aliases file
Under evo it just chokes saying that the address is invalid. Ah, yes, that behavior changed in 1.1. In 1.0, you have to enter the complete address [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever. Evo 1.2 will let you get away with just my-alias and let your MTA either accept it or complain about it. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail
On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 13:57, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: If you go back to probably even last week or the week before in the archives for this list, you'll find numerous messages complaining about 1.0.x find my account from this message behavior. In fact, every week there are lots of complaints. All of them wanted it the way it is now. You're actually the first person that wants it the old way :-) People don't write email saying Dammit! Why can't you make evolution work exactly the way it already does?! How the @#$!@ am I supposed to used this thing when it does precisely what I want it to?! It's possible that there were thousands of people happy with the old behavior and just a handful who wanted it the new way. Can one of those I-don't-like-the-1.0.x-way people out there explain what was wrong with it for them? The 1.0.x way sounds like it makes a lot more sense to me... (If someone sends mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], why do you want the reply to come from [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Unless you don't ever want to send mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED], in which case, why not just claim that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the email address for that identity?) -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail
Why doesn't Evolution simply use the account in the To: tag when you do an action on a received message? If it can't find it, use the default. Sounds simple. I didn't appear in the To list of your message. How does Evo know what account to reply from? The default account will often not be right if you have a bunch of accounts. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail
On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 13:50, Ryan P Skadberg wrote: Ah now I get this. So, basically, you have 2 IMAP accounts He was actually talking about 2 POP accounts, but it should work basically the same. Ok! Then, the best way for this to work is: 1) Search the Recipient list for an address in your accounts (this should fail on a mailing list, so ...) 2) Use X-Evolution-Source. 3) Barring Neither working for some reason, use default account. So you'd think, but that's basically how it was supposed to work in 1.0.x and he's saying it didn't really... I suspect something is messing up so that it doesn't recognize the X-Evolution-Source header and step 2 fails. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Delete flaking out on me.
For example, I start evolution. I go to my IMAP INBOX. I select any message and hit the delete key, or the trash-can icon, nothing. (Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_disconnect_by_data(): could not find handler containing data appears in my log file) That's unrelated. The shell spits that out inside BonoboSocket every time you look at an HTML message. I have no idea how/why. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] libversit_lt
On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 04:40, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: Trying to build with pilot conduits. addressbook/conduits dies with ../../libversit/libversit_lt.la not found. fixed ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Connector with Evolution 1.1.x?
Is there a timeline when Connector will work with Evolution 1.1.x? We're not planning to put out any prereleases of Connector 1.2. Sorry. :) I also noticed that the Connector uses the web interface to the Exchange server instead of the native MAPI protocol. Hence the need to have OWA activated (I was wondering about that requirement). Are there any functionality limitations because of this? Connector 1.0 has a bunch of limitations just because we didn't have time to do everything in the first release. 1.2 adds a bunch of stuff like public folders, delegation, and direct booking. But yes, there are things Connector can't do, although it's generally more about not being able to decode certain pieces of data than not being able to access them. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Issues with evolution-devel from evolution-stable
It's all that bad. N P may be Netscap-ish, but hitting N for next message, and P for previous is a no-brainer. Please please please change it back. :) Not my decision. Sigh, how about making it customizable Make it customizable is almost always the wrong answer. If it's good, then it's good, and if it's bad, then it's bad, and if it's the sort of thing that some people are used to one way and other people are used to another way, then people can get used to different things, and will eventually get used to the way evolution does it. Once you ditch 1.0 and switch to 1.1 completely, it doesn't take very long at all to get used to the changed keybindings. Assuming you have a US keyboard... those bindings (which are supposed to correspond to the keys that and are on) suck for many non-US keyboard layouts, so they will probably end up changing again before 1.2 is actually released. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] evolution bug [MINOR] part 2
On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 11:41, Alessio Dessi wrote: With the last snap of evo 1.1.0.99, I'm experiencing some quiting problem, in particular evolution-mail module don't shutdown properly Yes, fixed a few days ago. I don't know if there have been new snapshots successfully built since then. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Search?
On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 03:14, David Hoover wrote: On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 23:55, Tony K Lindstrom wrote: I am using 1.0.8 and I have one suggestion. Please add Recipients contains to the predefined searches. It's there in 1.0.8. And it's not new; I remember using it for quite a while now But there's a bug that if your ~/evolution dir was created before the Recipients contains search was added, you won't have it. cp /usr/share/evolution/default_user/searches.xml ~/evolution/ to fix it. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] IMAP Calendar Folder?
On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 06:16, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: Still haven't seen a reply from an Evo developer on this. On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 00:41, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: Am I seeing this correctly? In the CVS version's settings for Folder Settings it would seem to allow me to store my Contacts, Calendar, Tasks, etc. in folders on an IMAP server. Is this a new feature, or is it showing folders that it should not? If it's correct, I like it! The folder-selector always shows the entire folder tree, since in some storages (local and Exchange), you could have a Calendar folder that was a subfolder of a Mail folder. So no, you can't put your Calendar folder on an IMAP server, but it's not really showing folders that it should not, though it could be presented more clearly... (But if you try to select a mail folder, it will tell you you can't.) -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Re: Encryption Interoperability (was: should wesupport pgp interfaces?)
On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 04:14, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 13:27, Not Zed wrote: multipart/signed has been fixed in 1.1.x version. It treats the content entirely as opaque data as per rfc. Again the question (wasn't answered last time I asked): Is there any estimate on a 1.2 release (Or are there 1.1 debs anywhere?). There's no current estimate on when 1.2 will be out, though there should be by next week at this time. (We need to figure out what to do about some things that were planned for 1.2 but aren't done yet.) You can get 1.1 snapshots from the Evolution Development Snapshots channel (not just Evolution Snapshots) in Red Carpet though. I don't know if they're available for ftp too. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] devel - release
On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 16:12, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: Yea, it's possible to do. The only thing you'll need to do is to rm -f ~/evolution/config/et-* You don't need to do that any more (unless you're running a 1.1 snap from before May 10). -- Dan Jeff On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 15:14, Jonathan F. Dill wrote: Is it possible to switch from the devel 1.1 branch of evolution back to the normal 1.0? What do I need to do? I've been mostly happy with the devel branch, but the recent snaps are getting a bit too unstable, and I decided that I didn't really need the special features of the devel branch after all. -- Jonathan F. Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] UMBI CARB ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] OT: Changing Email Addrs in Bugzilla?
On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 10:44, Dan Berger wrote: Anyone @ Ximian know if there's a way to change ones email address in bugzilla? I don't think you can do it yourself, but the bugzilla admins can. Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Active Directory LDAP browsing using Evolution.Help if you can!
On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 21:54, Shiva Shankar wrote: that worked for me. i am able to browse the AD now. is it possible to setup address auto completion against the Global Catalog instead of the default ldap port? yes, just append :3268 after the hostname in the ldap url. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Active Directory LDAP browsing using Evolution.Help if you can!
(toshok: read the end at least) On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 14:56, Austin Gonyou wrote: Can anyone tell me how to use Evo 1.1 to browse an Active Directory LDAP server General pane: * Server name: your server * Log in method: Using distinguished name (DN) * Distinguished name: DOMAIN\username Connecting: * Port number: 3268, or 3269 if you need to use SSL. This is the Global Catalog, which is nicer to use than the default LDAP port, because (a) you don't need to worry about the search base, and (b) it includes other domains in your company as well. Searching: * Search base: you can leave this blank if you're using the Global Catalog port. If your local AD server doesn't have a Global Catalog replica (and so doesn't answer on port 3268/3269), you can use the default LDAP port there, but then you need to set the search base here. But it should be able to find the right one for you automatically via Show Supported Bases. * Search scope: Sub Now, having said all that, it seems that there's a bug in the code right now... if you set Search scope to Sub, it gets saved as Base instead, and so it doesn't work. But if you quit evolution and edit ~/evolution/addressbook-sources.xml by hand to fix that, it should work. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Is there a way to mark a message as *important*when sending??
It works just fine in KMail. When talking to Mutt? Mozilla? Outlook? Pine? Eudora? If so then we should fix it, if not, then that was NotZed's point. Last I heard Mozilla and Outlook used different headers for things like this. Outlook sets three different headers (two of which are for backward compatibility with old MS products). There is a proposed-standard header Importance which was defined for use in mapping X.400 (RFC2156) and voicemail (RFC2421) messages to RFC822 syntax, which Outlook also sets and recognizes, and that's probably the one that KMail and other things use as well. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Event/meeting requests and reminders: bug orfeature?
On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 10:11, Martin C. Messer wrote: I've noticed that reminders created while setting up an event/meeting in the calender do not carry over into the meeting request sent to other Evolution users. Is this intended? I can see the pros and cons of each approach I suppose, and I'm not sure how Outlook/Exchange handles this (assuming Outlook/Exchange's behavior is considered the standard). Yes, it's intended. I believe Outlook preserves them, but our feeling is that if you want to be reminded, you can set a reminder yourself. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configurable Reply Attribution UI?
It would be nice to have different attribution for every language you use. Of course Evo should automatically pick the right language using some attribute of the recipient (X-EVOLUTION-PREFERRED-LANGUAGE maybe). X-EVOLUTION-PREFERRED-LANGUAGE would be also useful in other contexts, eg. to use Polish Odp: instead of Re: in message subject. (optionally) Am I dreaming? Well, you're giving me nightmares. :-) Using a string other than Re: for replies leads to things like Subject: Odp: Re: AW: Re: Configurable Reply Attribution UI? Because there's no way every mail client can know every string that every other mail client is using to mean Re:. It might be nice to have evo translate it when *displaying* messages (so that this message would show up with Odp: at the beginning of the subject when you look at it, but not when I look at it), but I suspect that even then, the string would sometimes end up escaping into the wild. Better to just stick with Re:. It's not like it's really particularly English anyway. (I suppose it must be short for Regarding:, but I know I don't think of it that way.) -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configurable Reply Attribution UI?
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 11:16, Matt Avery - Sun UK wrote: I always thought that Re: comes from the latin for thing (as in Republic = things of the people), and it became common in english through leagal documents which use a lot of latin terms (sub judice, habeas corpus) and so forth. So Re: would have quite good international credentials. According to RFC2822, it's from the Latin res, in the matter of. Who knew. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] SMTP and MX
On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 07:12, Kenneth Porter wrote: I was idly curious about how Evo resolved an SMTP server. Does it use MX resolution, or just the address from the A record? Just the A record. Using the MX record would be wrong; MX is to answer the question how do I deliver mail to someone in the domain 'foo.com'. It's possible that the server that the MX record leads you to will only accept mail addressed to local recipients. Are there any plans to use sendmail's MSA (mail submission agent) port? Not currently. The Internet Draft that that's based on has expired anyway... You can override the port yourself though by specifying smtp.foo.com:587 as the hostname in the mail config dialog. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution-hackers] addressbook-sources.xml not read back
Fine. Unfortunately, it won't read the the file back. It STATs it, but there is no attempt to open the file (strace): Did you build your own packages? If so, did you compile with LDAP support? This probably belongs on [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] connector viewing public folders
On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 12:09, nall wrote: ximian-folk, are public folders slated anytime soon in connector? 1.2, sometime this summer ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution-hackers] How to refresh/access current message list?
Why do you care about the email address in the message list? How does it matter to you whether I write to you from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Well, theoretically, I would treat a message with a subject of Something horrible is going to happen this weekend very differently depending on whether it came from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (But in reality, I probably wouldn't notice until I read the message.) -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] Evolution autocompletion - I think it IS brokennow........
If any Ximian folks look at this, can you test if the knowledge base instructions are now non-functional? It only works if you aren't using Connector. That should be mentioned in the answer, but it's not. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Menu Items/Icon Buttons +Bonobo?
On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 11:50, swalker wrote: I need to add menu items to the menu bar, to the popup menu when a user click on a folder and add a icon button or two to the button bar. For me to do this, do I use Bonobo? I saw some code where it does a UI add. Can I do this from my plugin module? No. The UI of the existing components isn't currently plug-in extensible. (It won't be in 1.2 either.) -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] will there be a Windows port?
I believe, tho, that even using CX Office, Outlook doesn't run right. Which doesn't mean that the next version of CX Office won't solve that problem ... CrossOver is a dead end though, unfortunately. The license of Office XP explicitly says you can only run it on real Windows XP (or something like that), so crossover will be stuck at Office 2000 forever. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
RE: [Evolution] will there be a Windows port?
On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 11:05, Jean-Eric Cuendet wrote: A windows port would be cool for 2 reasons: - Having an homogeneous program for both Windows and Linux/UNIX users - Price of Outlook is high compared to Evolution (even with Connector) Even if someone else did a Windows port of Evolution, Ximian is not likely to do a port of Connector. (By not likely, I mean the intersection of there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of it ever happening and I cannot comment on unannounced potential future products.) -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] prob with html in mailing lists
On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 12:23, Jennifer Pinkham wrote: I get the digest form of the Evo mailing list, and some people have included an HTML version of their message in addition to plain text. Unfortunately Evo shows me the HTML tags instead. Go to http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution, enter your email address in the Edit Options box, and check MIME instead of Plain Text in Get MIME or Plain Text Digests. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Problems with contacts in 1.0.5
On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 08:01, Michael Gruner wrote: - Evolution gives the following warning: evolution-shell-WARNING **: e_folder_type_registry_get_icon_for_type() -- Unknown type `contacts' - Can't open contacts-folder Hello, please take a look at my thread wombat chrashes on startup. I get that warnings with the unknown type 'contacts', too. That's because the addressbook component isn't starting up right. For me the problem is solved by restarting Evo...maybe we should wait for the next snapshot?! The wombat crash should be fixed in today's snapshots. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Problems with contacts in 1.0.5
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 14:24, Peter van den Bosch wrote: Since I compiled and installed evo 1.0.5(.99), the contacts-folder doesn't work anymore (it does in 1.0.4.99), symptoms: - Splash-screen doesn't show the contacts icon. That means there's no .oaf file for evolution-addressbook. But unless you actually did a make uninstall of 1.0.4.99 first, there would have to still be the old .oaf file. So more likely, there's a corrupted .oaf file that oafd can't parse. This might be related to translations. Do you have the latest intltool (0.18)? All of the rest of the problems you report are caused by the fact that evolution thinks there's no addressbook component. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Missing contacts?
On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 11:06, Connector, Ximian wrote: I recompiled Evolution and am running 1.0.5 (previously 1.0.3). From the Folders window (where Summary, Local Folders, Vfolders) I used to have a folder for Other Contacts, and that seems to have disappeared in the current version. Sounds like you accidentally built without ldap support. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Can Camel/Evo allow on demand downloads forattachments?
It would have been a lot easier to have a HOWTO documents that explains how to write a plugin for evolution. It's one of those copious free time things. We could either document the code, or fix bugs... And especially pre-1.0, there was disincentive to document stuff, since it all kept changing. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] changing values w/ bonobo-conf
Is there some sort of flag I need to set to alert Evo that a value in the db has changed? I'm currently calling Bonobo_ConfigDatabase_sync but obviously that's not all I need. Evolution doesn't listen for changes to the db. It assumes that it's the only thing changing anything. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] How many versions of camel-providers shouldI have?
On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 17:39, Austin Gonyou wrote: In /usr/lib/evolution/camel-providers I've got: 1.0 1.0.0.99 1.1 Do I *need* all that if I'm using 1.1-dev? No, just 1.1 is fine. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.0.5
- Make reminders work with remote backends. (Rodrigo) Is this what I think it is? I can finally have a reminder fire off an external program without waiting forever at a prompt? No, this is a fix for reminders for events stored on remote calendar backends. (Eg, Exchange). -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.0.5
No, this is a fix for reminders for events stored on remote calendar backends. (Eg, Exchange). Eg Exchange ? That means there's another remote calendar backend ? I'm very interested, which one is it ? No, but the fix wasn't in any way Exchange-specific: if there were other remote calendar backends, reminders on them wouldn't have worked before the fix, and would work after the fix. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution-hackers] How To Create a Camel Mime/Content Info?
I already have the summary being displayed and the message being show in the preview pane. Bug, I'm stumped on what I need to do to get the header to display. The display pane doesn't look at the summary information, it gets the headers from the CamelMimeMessage object itself. It sounds like you are building CamelMimeMessage objects that contain bodies but not headers. (Either because you're setting the message's content object, but not setting the headers, or because you're doing construct_from_stream/construct_from_parser with a stream/parser that only has the message body.) -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] build time speedup
I have not tried this, your mileage may vary, but... http://ccache.samba.org/ has a compiler cache program that recognizes when recompiling a file will generate the same output as last time and avoids recompiling it. Supposed to speed up recompiles when the source hasn't changed much (eg, if you rebuild evo every day). -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] Bynari's InsightConnector
On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 09:16, Brian wrote: My apologies if this has already been discussed, but I didn't see it so here goes. What's the deal with this Evolution plug-in (that appears to be a competing product for Ximian Connector) that Bynari is getting ready to release? The one mentioned at ... http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-06-003-26-PR-SV-SW They've not decided on a license, but one would have to think it'd be a closed-source, proprietary plugin and that would be a no-no for a non-Ximian entity to do, right? It would be *possible* to write an almost-entirely-closed-source plugin for Evolution, using the CORBA interfaces and such. But you would have to do a huge amount of work since almost all of the utility libraries inside the evolution source tree (libpas, libpcs, libebook, libeutil, libeshell, etc) are GPL, not LGPL. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution-hackers] Re: charset foo
[moving from evolution-patches to evolution-hackers] Giving the user a choice could work. We can't *just* autodetect based on the UTF8. In a string like The character for the word 'one' is U+4E00, the last character could be Japanese, Simplified Chinese, or Traditional Chinese (or even Korean sometimes?). Is there any way for the composer to know whether the user is using a Japanese or Chinese input method? (And are there separate traditional and simplified chinese input methods?) And what about cut+paste? If you paste characters from a Big5 web page, does the composer know that or does it only get UTF8? -- Dan On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 21:28, Not Zed wrote: Yes we need this code, as we needed it when it was written. If nothing else, we could potentially use it to offer the user a choice (as emacs does), or use it to determine if the users locale charset is a valid option, or even for things like autodetecting unknown data (using locale as a hint). The code is priority based at least. So you just order the super-meta charsets last, so they wont be chosen for normal text, and maybe even special case them based on locale so utf8 is usually preffered. On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 21:42, Dan Winship wrote: Order of preference seems to be iso-2022-jp, Shift-JIS, and then euc-jp but neither Shift-JIS nor euc-jp are liked very much. They seem to only be common in the US for example. Korean users tend to prefer euc-kr over iso-2022-kr. Do the character sets actually contain vastly different data? Will Shift-JIS, euc-jp, or iso-2022-kr ever get chosen? For that matter, will the Chinese charsets ever get autodetected or will it always use the Japanese ones instead (at least for messages containing only reasonably common characters)? Also, does this patch address the issue that a message containing both Greek and Russian *can* be encoded in iso-2022, but *should* be encoded in UTF8? What problem exactly is this supposed to be solving? If you want to autodetect Asian charsets for people who aren't replying to an Asian-language message and don't have an Asian locale, I don't think this will work. Heuristics that might work are if it contains Korean characters (which are all in a certain range in Unicode), try EUC-KR, if it contains Japanese hiragana/katakana (likewise), try iso-2022-jp, and if it contains unihan characters but not kana, it's probably Chinese. I don't think you can autoselect between traditional and simplified Chinese charsets based on a UTF8 input stream though. -- Dan ___ Evolution-patches maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-patches ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Calling construct() multiply times?
On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 13:02, Shawn Walker wrote: I constructed my base_url as: provider://username@server/ In get_folder_info_online() I created a URL for each folder as: provider://username@server/folder1 That URL is being created by camel_url_to_string(). In hash_folder_name(), I get: provider://username@server/folder1;noselect=yes So you want to make sure that your hash and equals functions don't consider the path to be part of the URL. but, I don't get ;noselect=yes for all the folders, just some (I haven't looked into what ;noselect=yes means). It means evolution-mail thinks the folder is not selectable, which has to do with what fields you did and didn't fill in in the CamelFolderInfo in get_folder_info. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Publish Free/Busy
Additional support for this feature later on could go in the other tab of the calendar options. Having the calendar automatically posted after changes to the calendar.(this was a quick request by Christian Borup on irc #evolution) yeah, that sounds a good idea. For this, it's also very easy. Just connect to the obj_removed and obj_updated signals in the CalClient class, and whenever your callbacks are called, there's a change in the calendar. In fact, this could be a daemon (like the alarm-notify) which listens to changes in *any* calendar folder used by the user, and whenever a change occurs, it re-generates the F/B info for that user. And as mentioned in http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16567, this would let it be written/released separately from Evolution itself (although that would probably require fixing up evolution to install the necessary libraries). -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] ldap backend(s)
On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 11:46, Costin Cozan wrote: hi, did anyone of you had the idea to write a ldap backend for anything else than addressbook? I just keep thinking of a such backend for calendar, having the data in the ldap database, and thus creating premises of a real groupware. The problem is that a calendar server needs to actually understand the data you're storing in it, so it can expand recurring appointments. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.0.3 on Solaris 8.
All that needs to be fixed now is the quirkiness within the 'to' and 'cc' fields - stealing focus during Contact name lookup, and not returning focus, and all is well. Though this sounds like a gtkhtml issue. It's a gtk bug actually. We submitted a fix for it just over a year ago, but the gtk maintainers don't care enough to get a new release out. http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/521/2001/4/50/5622184/ ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Some attachments don't show up in evolution.
On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 10:23, John Weber wrote: Hi, I curious as to why some attachments (seems to be the virus ones on the Ximian users list) don't show up in evolution (1.0.3) Several of the recent Outlook viruses have mangled MIME syntax to trigger various Outlook bugs. Evolution is doing its best to display the message according to the inconsistent description it's given. There was a problem that messages composed in rich text mode in Outlook and then auto-converted to HTML by Exchange would show up without the attachments in Evolution (because Evolution was displaying what the message *said* to display instead of what it *meant* to be displayed). That's definitely fixed in Evolution 1.2 (and hacked around in Connector 1.0), but I don't remember if the fix made it into Evolution 1.0. But this is probably not what you're seeing if you're talking about virus mails. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Offline mode improvements
On Wed, 2002-04-24 at 15:46, Ettore Perazzoli wrote: Hello, So, we need to make offline support better before 1.2 goes out. Right now offline support sucks in the following ways: 1. We don't allow specifying which folders should be synced -- we just sync them all. Rather, we just sync Inboxes. 2. We don't allow specifying any criteria for how folders should be synced up (e.g. whether to sync all the messages, or only the messages that are unread, or whatever). And you forgot to mention the Clever Hack for this, which is that the mailer needs to claim that vfolders are syncable, and then you create a vfolder that selects the kinds of messages you want to sync, and tell the shell to sync only that folder. I think this was considered an enhancement on top of the must-happen-for-1.2 stuff though. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution] multiple contact folders
On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 10:39, nall wrote: i have two contact folders -- one personal (the default Contacts) and one for work (a Work_Contacts that i created). can i get the composer to check each of these for address completion? it currently will only search the default folder. If you're not using Connector, yes. Go to support.ximian.com, click on knowledge base, search for ldap complete, and follow the directions, but use a file: URL instead of ldap: -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: NAV detected a virus in a document youauthored.]
On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 08:23, Olivier Hallot wrote: I am puzzled... How can Evolution spread windoze virus? I am running Mandrake 8.1 Linux with Evolution 1.0.3 Evolution won't *automatically* spread viruses, but any mailer is capable of transmitting a virus if you tell it to. Maybe you received a message containing the virus and then forwarded that message to someone else without realizing it contained a virus? (The virus would probably just look like an unknown type of attachment to Evolution.) -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] RFE: ability to add headers to standard display.
I'd like the ability to see other interesting headers without all the fluff of the Received: headers, for one, and the List-* headers for another. Can we at least talk about it? Or is this a firm NO WAY? It's not a firm no way. The patch from January would be against the old config dialog, so it might not work in the current one. I also don't think anyone ever looked at it. I'm guessing the actual header-pulling-out-and-displaying implementation is fine, but I don't know if the config gui would meet our strict usability requirements (no, I didn't manage to write that with a straight face :-). -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] (no subject)
If you aren't using Connector, you can use a kludge that was tossed into Evo 1.0 at the last minute for it. Quit evolution, run killev, and open ~/evolution/config.xmldb. Add a section: section path=/Addressbook entry name=default_book_uri type=string value=LDAPURL/ /section See: http://support.ximian.com/cgi-bin/ximian.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_refno=011207-05 for an example LDAP URL. (That article explains how to set up LDAP autocompletion in the composer, which is something else you might want to do.) In Evo 1.2, this is much easier. You just go into the global config dialog, select Default Folders, and pick a new default contacts folder. -- Dan On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 07:25, Christophe Zwecker wrote: yeah, and is it possible to have the ldap adressbock I setpu in address sources be default so I add adreesses to that instead thr local one ? to use that as default when typing the adress when composing new mail ? Christophe On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 09:44, Tobias Karlsson wrote: Hello Is it possible to change the adressbook that pilot-sync uses. I would like to sync the pilot against my LDAP server were all my adresses are rather than the local adressbook. /Tobias ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Christophe Zwecker mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hamburg, Germanyfon: +49 179 3994867 http://www.zwecker.de Who is General Failure ? And why is he reading my disk ?? ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Stripping .sig's in replies
4. When nuke-a-sig is run, start at the end of the message, and only read back n (user configurable?) lines to get to the delimiter. There's no reason to make it user configurable. And I'd suggest 5 for n. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] How to access IMAP folders not starting with INBOX?
But still, what I actually want to do with Evolution is to share calendar files. It doesn't seem to be possible to put a calendar file on the IMAP server :-) And we don't have Microsoft Exchange. I hope it's possible somehow. There is no reason to use IMAP for this. IMAP is optimized for handling email, and if you're not using email, it's not really much better than ftp. For instance, you want to be able to ask the server, tell me everything that's happening today so you can fill in today on the calendar. But since you may have recurring appointments, the server needs to understand the format of the data in your calendar. Since an IMAP server wouldn't, this means that every time you open the calendar, you need to download the entire contents to the client. Hence, no improvement over just ftp'ing your calendar around. And also, the IMAP code is entirely inside evolution-mail, and the calendar has no access to it. So you'd either have to have the mailer pass data back and forth to the calendar, or have the calendar also link against the imap code. And *then* you have to deal with the fact that some IMAP servers won't let you make multiple simultaneous connections. Overall, it's just not a win. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Stripping .sig's in replies
On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 10:38, Jason Kohles wrote: On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 10:19, Dan Winship wrote: 4. When nuke-a-sig is run, start at the end of the message, and only read back n (user configurable?) lines to get to the delimiter. There's no reason to make it user configurable. And I'd suggest 5 for n. That's a good reason to make it configurable, I'd argue that the bigger the sig, the more it needs stripping. Then that's a lousy reason to make it configurable. Having a configuration option means we think some people only want to strip small signatures, but other people want to strip large signatures too, so you can decide. What you're arguing for is it shouldn't be based on the number of lines, you just need to have a smarter algorithm -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] How to access IMAP folders not starting with INBOX?
On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 12:38, Kai Großjohann wrote: Dan Winship [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But still, what I actually want to do with Evolution is to share calendar files. It doesn't seem to be possible to put a calendar file on the IMAP server :-) And we don't have Microsoft Exchange. I hope it's possible somehow. There is no reason to use IMAP for this. IMAP is optimized for handling email, and if you're not using email, it's not really much better than ftp. Alright, alright. Just a feeble attempt at making a joke. Well, someone suggests it every few months. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Template messages
IIRC, there was at least rudimentary support for this in one of the pre-1.0 development versions You recall incorrectly, although some people have suggested saving drafts and then re-editting them to get this functionality. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Compiling evolution CVS HEAD alongside packagedevolution stable-- mini-HOWTO
Solution: Though it took a lot of work to figure this out initially, I did get this to work, and it does beautifully. Thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for some help in debugging this. That's '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' The basic idea is to leave everything that is managed by a package manger (ie in /usr) alone, and put all of our needed libraries and applications for evolution CVS HEAD in /opt/gnome (or similar). I think it's less work overall to just not install gal-dev, gtkhtml-dev, or evolution from packages, and instead build evolution-1-0-branch in one prefix (say, /opt/evolution-1-0) and HEAD in another (/opt/evolution). That way you don't need to recompile all of gnome from the ground up. You only need gal, gtkhtml, and evolution in each tree, because both of them can use gtk, gnome-libs, etc, from /usr. Do NOT run the evolution head (in /opt/gnome/bin) and the stable evolution at the same time. I also recommend not running them as the same user since evolution head may (will?) break your stable evolution configuration. You must use the above export statements to run evolution head as well. There aren't currently any major config incompatibilities. I run them in separate prefixes as described above and use these .bashrc functions to switch between them: function evo10() { oaf-slay rm ~/evolution/config/storage-set-view-expanded* export GNOME_PATH=/opt/evolution-1-0 export PATH=${PATH/evolution/evolution-1-0} } function evohead() { oaf-slay export GNOME_PATH=/opt/evolution export PATH=${PATH/evolution-1-0/evolution} } The oaf-slay is because you need oafd to be running with the correct PATH and GNOME_PATH. The 'rm' in the evo10 command is to fix a problem where otherwise the folder tree isn't visible when switching back to 1.0 after using HEAD. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] evolution-addressbook-export requires display?
On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 12:25, Chris Petersen wrote: That's annoying.. tried to run this from an ssh console from work.. Is there any way to work around this? Nope. Gtk 1.2 requires an X display, even if you're only using it for the object system and not creating any widgets. That's fixed in glib/gtk 2.0. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Tools/Special Folders: RFE
On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 13:32, Larry Rosenman wrote: Now the age old question.. When is it coming out? Summer -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution