RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
um... 21.6KBps. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I'm connected from home at a 21,600KBps dial up right now, connected to an exchange server 3800km away. The mailboxes are not moving through your connection at home. I would assume the exchange servers that you move the mailboxes between are on the LAN together. William I also don't watch basketball. I was, however, watching play-by-play online of Mario winning the Milan-San Remo. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware You live in the USA, I live in Italy. You have a fast connection from home, I do not. You watch basketball, I watch soccer. :-) You do it your way, I do it mine! Your mailboxes take little time to move (it seems), mine would take in excess of 1 day. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 11:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Overtime? You lean over to your laptop on the coffee table at home connected over the VPN or TS session and select a block of mailboxes and select move mailbox and return to the NCAA basketball game or whatever. An hour later, you select the next block, then take the dog for a walk. Return home, then select the next block and play-wrestle with the wife for awhile. Select the next block, and it's dinnertime. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Thats exactly what I did; worked like a charm! Especially the play-wrestle with my wife! You cannot create experience. You must undergo it. Albert Camus (1913-1960); French writer and philosopher - Original Message - From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:38 AM Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Overtime? You lean over to your laptop on the coffee table at home connected over the VPN or TS session and select a block of mailboxes and select move mailbox and return to the NCAA basketball game or whatever. An hour later, you select the next block, then take the dog for a walk. Return home, then select the next block and play-wrestle with the wife for awhile. Select the next block, and it's dinnertime. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
I moved 650+ mailboxes in a weekend. Our limit is 75MB per mailbox, and most people hover between 50MB and 70MB. I just dialed in, started a remote session to one server, selected 100 mailboxes started the move and closed the session. About once an hour I would dial back in and check on it. I watched the entire 4th Season of the X-Files the entire time :) ! Scott Lounder ! Systems Engineering/1801 Main/3d Floor/Renaissance Tower Direct 713-232-6201 Cell 281-541-6061 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: CHRIS H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I just finished doing the exact same thing and the only thing I didnt like about the forklift method of moving my mailboxes is that I was bringing my old database along for the ride. I did the move mailbox procedure, for about 250 mailboxes and it took me 3 Sundays. I just terminal servered into the server at 12 midnight Saturday and let it chug along until Midnight Sunday. Worked great. You cannot create experience. You must undergo it. Albert Camus (1913-1960); French writer and philosopher - Original Message - From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:52 AM Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
By the way, when moving a mailbox, do any of you ever check first to see whether the user is logged in ?? I always do (which greatly slows the moving of mailboxes) because in the past I've noticed that users that get moved, while being logged in, leave bad records in the database so that they then appear in the information store of both servers! It doesn't seem to create any problems, but it makes me uneasy to see a mailbox appear that way. I agree that the forklift method does take your garbage along with you. If I have a database with minor corruptions, then I would definitely go for the move mailbox. -Original Message- From: CHRIS H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 April 2002 20:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I just finished doing the exact same thing and the only thing I didnt like about the forklift method of moving my mailboxes is that I was bringing my old database along for the ride. I did the move mailbox procedure, for about 250 mailboxes and it took me 3 Sundays. I just terminal servered into the server at 12 midnight Saturday and let it chug along until Midnight Sunday. Worked great. You cannot create experience. You must undergo it. Albert Camus (1913-1960); French writer and philosopher - Original Message - From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:52 AM Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Maybe different outlook on things - in my site while the workers are here 9-5, access to mail is from off site as well and the thought of disconnecting them for a day, even at weekends, would be unacceptable. In your situation, it obviously is acceptable. - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 09:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Correct! We don't have any problems scheduling downtime for week-ends on an occasional basis, especially if the outcome for the users concerned is a faster server afterwards! -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:31 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Maybe different outlook on things - in my site while the workers are here 9-5, access to mail is from off site as well and the thought of disconnecting them for a day, even at weekends, would be unacceptable. In your situation, it obviously is acceptable. - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 09:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Overtime? You lean over to your laptop on the coffee table at home connected over the VPN or TS session and select a block of mailboxes and select move mailbox and return to the NCAA basketball game or whatever. An hour later, you select the next block, then take the dog for a walk. Return home, then select the next block and play-wrestle with the wife for awhile. Select the next block, and it's dinnertime. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
And get paid for it. Result! -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Overtime? You lean over to your laptop on the coffee table at home connected over the VPN or TS session and select a block of mailboxes and select move mailbox and return to the NCAA basketball game or whatever. An hour later, you select the next block, then take the dog for a walk. Return home, then select the next block and play-wrestle with the wife for awhile. Select the next block, and it's dinnertime. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Particularly during the play-wrestle with the wife - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:40 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware And get paid for it. Result! -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Overtime? You lean over to your laptop on the coffee table at home connected over the VPN or TS session and select a block of mailboxes and select move mailbox and return to the NCAA basketball game or whatever. An hour later, you select the next block, then take the dog for a walk. Return home, then select the next block and play-wrestle with the wife for awhile. Select the next block, and it's dinnertime. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Who wins, you or Claire? -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Particularly during the play-wrestle with the wife - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:40 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware And get paid for it. Result! -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Overtime? You lean over to your laptop on the coffee table at home connected over the VPN or TS session and select a block of mailboxes and select move mailbox and return to the NCAA basketball game or whatever. An hour later, you select the next block, then take the dog for a walk. Return home, then select the next block and play-wrestle with the wife for awhile. Select the next block, and it's dinnertime. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
manly voice Me, of course /manly voice - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 11:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Who wins, you or Claire? -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Particularly during the play-wrestle with the wife - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:40 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware And get paid for it. Result! -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Overtime? You lean over to your laptop on the coffee table at home connected over the VPN or TS session and select a block of mailboxes and select move mailbox and return to the NCAA basketball game or whatever. An hour later, you select the next block, then take the dog for a walk. Return home, then select the next block and play-wrestle with the wife for awhile. Select the next block, and it's dinnertime. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Of Course! -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 11:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware manly voice Me, of course /manly voice - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 11:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Who wins, you or Claire? -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Particularly during the play-wrestle with the wife - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:40 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware And get paid for it. Result! -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Overtime? You lean over to your laptop on the coffee table at home connected over the VPN or TS session and select a block of mailboxes and select move mailbox and return to the NCAA basketball game or whatever. An hour later, you select the next block, then take the dog for a walk. Return home, then select the next block and play-wrestle with the wife for awhile. Select the next block, and it's dinnertime. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
8 to 5 in IT? What's wrong with 5pm to 8am to accomplish this? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rowell, John (AFIT) Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Or you could do the Ed' method which work most excellent for me...Thx Ed others... You could say move a few in the early morning..some late afternoon. Maybe even..hold your breath...remote connect Late evening/early morning and tell it to move a whole lot... Like I could Citrix in to my company then remote to my exch svr...select a few to too many mailboxs ..say move...disconnect then come back later and check it. but thats just me... I like to have the dog crab the mouse and run with it at home...and watch everything get really screwed up... But then most of the time the dog is smarter then I am damn cleaver dog...pretends to sleep to get out of doing things... bill -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 8 to 5 in IT? What's wrong with 5pm to 8am to accomplish this? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rowell, John (AFIT) Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Exactly. VPN in, start the mailbox move, go to bed. Wake up, coffee, crap, check mailbox move, party all day. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Or you could do the Ed' method which work most excellent for me...Thx Ed others... You could say move a few in the early morning..some late afternoon. Maybe even..hold your breath...remote connect Late evening/early morning and tell it to move a whole lot... Like I could Citrix in to my company then remote to my exch svr...select a few to too many mailboxs ..say move...disconnect then come back later and check it. but thats just me... I like to have the dog crab the mouse and run with it at home...and watch everything get really screwed up... But then most of the time the dog is smarter then I am damn cleaver dog...pretends to sleep to get out of doing things... bill -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 8 to 5 in IT? What's wrong with 5pm to 8am to accomplish this? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rowell, John (AFIT) Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
5:15pm: Break in because problem account crashed IS when it tried to move it. 5:04pm: You do the above because you remember the key is locked inside. hehe Don't get me wrong I love the ECMSM works great, and is less filling. However; I did have several accounts that did the above last time I did the ECMSM. I don't think you can set it and forget it, some baby sitting is required. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
5:10PM: Get beaten up by other admins on team for buying Coors Light. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List
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All together: JUST SET IT.AND FORGET IT!! -Original Message- From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:15pm: Break in because problem account crashed IS when it tried to move it. 5:04pm: You do the above because you remember the key is locked inside. hehe Don't get me wrong I love the ECMSM works great, and is less filling. However; I did have several accounts that did the above last time I did the ECMSM. I don't think you can set it and forget it, some baby sitting is required. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
The ECMSM worked great for me, luckily I have a lone Win2k VPN server set up for me and some Directors to connect up with our home ADSL accounts, and I can Dameware into the NT4 Exchange server to do some 'babysitting' although nothing was required. Set it and forget it indeed. I can have a lager at home too, which always tends to draw strange looks at work However, this method of operating servers from home creates some tense moments. Whilst working on servers located in far off places locked away in cupboards late at night, I always get a little anxious during a reboot watching the request timed out from the ping 192.168.2.25 -t wondering whether I left a floppy in the drive -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 17:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware All together: JUST SET IT.AND FORGET IT!! -Original Message- From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:15pm: Break in because problem account crashed IS when it tried to move it. 5:04pm: You do the above because you remember the key is locked inside. hehe Don't get me wrong I love the ECMSM works great, and is less filling. However; I did have several accounts that did the above last time I did the ECMSM. I don't think you can set it and forget it, some baby sitting is required. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
I do the same thing. However it isn't will the box come back up that gets me. Its will the box cleanly shut down, since that is whrer I have always had my issues. Now days I always manually kill services before shutting down. IIS, SQL, Exch, etc. -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware The ECMSM worked great for me, luckily I have a lone Win2k VPN server set up for me and some Directors to connect up with our home ADSL accounts, and I can Dameware into the NT4 Exchange server to do some 'babysitting' although nothing was required. Set it and forget it indeed. I can have a lager at home too, which always tends to draw strange looks at work However, this method of operating servers from home creates some tense moments. Whilst working on servers located in far off places locked away in cupboards late at night, I always get a little anxious during a reboot watching the request timed out from the ping 192.168.2.25 -t wondering whether I left a floppy in the drive -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 17:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware All together: JUST SET IT.AND FORGET IT!! -Original Message- From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:15pm: Break in because problem account crashed IS when it tried to move it. 5:04pm: You do the above because you remember the key is locked inside. hehe Don't get me wrong I love the ECMSM works great, and is less filling. However; I did have several accounts that did the above last time I did the ECMSM. I don't think you can set it and forget it, some baby sitting is required. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Which is easy since they are all on one box. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I do the same thing. However it isn't will the box come back up that gets me. Its will the box cleanly shut down, since that is whrer I have always had my issues. Now days I always manually kill services before shutting down. IIS, SQL, Exch, etc. -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware The ECMSM worked great for me, luckily I have a lone Win2k VPN server set up for me and some Directors to connect up with our home ADSL accounts, and I can Dameware into the NT4 Exchange server to do some 'babysitting' although nothing was required. Set it and forget it indeed. I can have a lager at home too, which always tends to draw strange looks at work However, this method of operating servers from home creates some tense moments. Whilst working on servers located in far off places locked away in cupboards late at night, I always get a little anxious during a reboot watching the request timed out from the ping 192.168.2.25 -t wondering whether I left a floppy in the drive -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 17:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware All together: JUST SET IT.AND FORGET IT!! -Original Message- From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:15pm: Break in because problem account crashed IS when it tried to move it. 5:04pm: You do the above because you remember the key is locked inside. hehe Don't get me wrong I love the ECMSM works great, and is less filling. However; I did have several accounts that did the above last time I did the ECMSM. I don't think you can set it and forget it, some baby sitting is required. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE
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One PC... -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Which is easy since they are all on one box. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I do the same thing. However it isn't will the box come back up that gets me. Its will the box cleanly shut down, since that is whrer I have always had my issues. Now days I always manually kill services before shutting down. IIS, SQL, Exch, etc. -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware The ECMSM worked great for me, luckily I have a lone Win2k VPN server set up for me and some Directors to connect up with our home ADSL accounts, and I can Dameware into the NT4 Exchange server to do some 'babysitting' although nothing was required. Set it and forget it indeed. I can have a lager at home too, which always tends to draw strange looks at work However, this method of operating servers from home creates some tense moments. Whilst working on servers located in far off places locked away in cupboards late at night, I always get a little anxious during a reboot watching the request timed out from the ping 192.168.2.25 -t wondering whether I left a floppy in the drive -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 17:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware All together: JUST SET IT.AND FORGET IT!! -Original Message- From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:15pm: Break in because problem account crashed IS when it tried to move it. 5:04pm: You do the above because you remember the key is locked inside. hehe Don't get me wrong I love the ECMSM works great, and is less filling. However; I did have several accounts that did the above last time I did the ECMSM. I don't think you can set it and forget it, some baby sitting is required. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking
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True, that's advice I will definitely take on board. I have had situations whereby a server 'hangs' on shutdown and continues to respond to a ping indefinately, but refuses to allow me to connect in any other way -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 17:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I do the same thing. However it isn't will the box come back up that gets me. Its will the box cleanly shut down, since that is whrer I have always had my issues. Now days I always manually kill services before shutting down. IIS, SQL, Exch, etc. -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware The ECMSM worked great for me, luckily I have a lone Win2k VPN server set up for me and some Directors to connect up with our home ADSL accounts, and I can Dameware into the NT4 Exchange server to do some 'babysitting' although nothing was required. Set it and forget it indeed. I can have a lager at home too, which always tends to draw strange looks at work However, this method of operating servers from home creates some tense moments. Whilst working on servers located in far off places locked away in cupboards late at night, I always get a little anxious during a reboot watching the request timed out from the ping 192.168.2.25 -t wondering whether I left a floppy in the drive -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 17:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware All together: JUST SET IT.AND FORGET IT!! -Original Message- From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:15pm: Break in because problem account crashed IS when it tried to move it. 5:04pm: You do the above because you remember the key is locked inside. hehe Don't get me wrong I love the ECMSM works great, and is less filling. However; I did have several accounts that did the above last time I did the ECMSM. I don't think you can set it and forget it, some baby sitting is required. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message
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If it's a WAN/LAN connection and you do indeed still receive a ping response, I have found that the BORK tool, shutdown.exe will sometimes recover from this situation. -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware True, that's advice I will definitely take on board. I have had situations whereby a server 'hangs' on shutdown and continues to respond to a ping indefinately, but refuses to allow me to connect in any other way -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 17:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I do the same thing. However it isn't will the box come back up that gets me. Its will the box cleanly shut down, since that is whrer I have always had my issues. Now days I always manually kill services before shutting down. IIS, SQL, Exch, etc. -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware The ECMSM worked great for me, luckily I have a lone Win2k VPN server set up for me and some Directors to connect up with our home ADSL accounts, and I can Dameware into the NT4 Exchange server to do some 'babysitting' although nothing was required. Set it and forget it indeed. I can have a lager at home too, which always tends to draw strange looks at work However, this method of operating servers from home creates some tense moments. Whilst working on servers located in far off places locked away in cupboards late at night, I always get a little anxious during a reboot watching the request timed out from the ping 192.168.2.25 -t wondering whether I left a floppy in the drive -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 17:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware All together: JUST SET IT.AND FORGET IT!! -Original Message- From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:15pm: Break in because problem account crashed IS when it tried to move it. 5:04pm: You do the above because you remember the key is locked inside. hehe Don't get me wrong I love the ECMSM works great, and is less filling. However; I did have several accounts that did the above last time I did the ECMSM. I don't think you can set it and forget it, some baby sitting is required. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500
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EXACTLY -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware True, that's advice I will definitely take on board. I have had situations whereby a server 'hangs' on shutdown and continues to respond to a ping indefinately, but refuses to allow me to connect in any other way -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 17:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I do the same thing. However it isn't will the box come back up that gets me. Its will the box cleanly shut down, since that is whrer I have always had my issues. Now days I always manually kill services before shutting down. IIS, SQL, Exch, etc. -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware The ECMSM worked great for me, luckily I have a lone Win2k VPN server set up for me and some Directors to connect up with our home ADSL accounts, and I can Dameware into the NT4 Exchange server to do some 'babysitting' although nothing was required. Set it and forget it indeed. I can have a lager at home too, which always tends to draw strange looks at work However, this method of operating servers from home creates some tense moments. Whilst working on servers located in far off places locked away in cupboards late at night, I always get a little anxious during a reboot watching the request timed out from the ping 192.168.2.25 -t wondering whether I left a floppy in the drive -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 17:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware All together: JUST SET IT.AND FORGET IT!! -Original Message- From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:15pm: Break in because problem account crashed IS when it tried to move it. 5:04pm: You do the above because you remember the key is locked inside. hehe Don't get me wrong I love the ECMSM works great, and is less filling. However; I did have several accounts that did the above last time I did the ECMSM. I don't think you can set it and forget it, some baby sitting is required. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March
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Myself, I take the cleaver away from the dog. Never know when the little mutt is going to sneak up on you in the middle of the night and have a whack at your neck, for forgetting to fill his dish before you went to bed! Jim Blunt -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Or you could do the Ed' method which work most excellent for me...Thx Ed others... You could say move a few in the early morning..some late afternoon. Maybe even..hold your breath...remote connect Late evening/early morning and tell it to move a whole lot... Like I could Citrix in to my company then remote to my exch svr...select a few to too many mailboxs ..say move...disconnect then come back later and check it. but thats just me... I like to have the dog crab the mouse and run with it at home...and watch everything get really screwed up... But then most of the time the dog is smarter then I am damn cleaver dog...pretends to sleep to get out of doing things... bill -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 8 to 5 in IT? What's wrong with 5pm to 8am to accomplish this? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rowell, John (AFIT) Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
You live in the USA, I live in Italy. You have a fast connection from home, I do not. You watch basketball, I watch soccer. :-) You do it your way, I do it mine! Your mailboxes take little time to move (it seems), mine would take in excess of 1 day. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 11:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Overtime? You lean over to your laptop on the coffee table at home connected over the VPN or TS session and select a block of mailboxes and select move mailbox and return to the NCAA basketball game or whatever. An hour later, you select the next block, then take the dog for a walk. Return home, then select the next block and play-wrestle with the wife for awhile. Select the next block, and it's dinnertime. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
I'm connected from home at a 21,600KBps dial up right now, connected to an exchange server 3800km away. The mailboxes are not moving through your connection at home. I would assume the exchange servers that you move the mailboxes between are on the LAN together. William I also don't watch basketball. I was, however, watching play-by-play online of Mario winning the Milan-San Remo. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware You live in the USA, I live in Italy. You have a fast connection from home, I do not. You watch basketball, I watch soccer. :-) You do it your way, I do it mine! Your mailboxes take little time to move (it seems), mine would take in excess of 1 day. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 11:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Overtime? You lean over to your laptop on the coffee table at home connected over the VPN or TS session and select a block of mailboxes and select move mailbox and return to the NCAA basketball game or whatever. An hour later, you select the next block, then take the dog for a walk. Return home, then select the next block and play-wrestle with the wife for awhile. Select the next block, and it's dinnertime. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
I have found that a 56k connection is ample for terminal services (pc anywhere/dameware/win2k) The frustration of watching the screen refresh is far outweighed by the benefits or being able to carry out these tasks remotely -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 April 2002 07:41 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware You live in the USA, I live in Italy. You have a fast connection from home, I do not. You watch basketball, I watch soccer. :-) You do it your way, I do it mine! Your mailboxes take little time to move (it seems), mine would take in excess of 1 day. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 11:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Overtime? You lean over to your laptop on the coffee table at home connected over the VPN or TS session and select a block of mailboxes and select move mailbox and return to the NCAA basketball game or whatever. An hour later, you select the next block, then take the dog for a walk. Return home, then select the next block and play-wrestle with the wife for awhile. Select the next block, and it's dinnertime. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware It's fairly poor use of overtime, as I see it, watching mailboxes slowly move between servers. So rather than doing a lot of overtime, over several days, I prefer to do the whole job in one day. And if I'm going to do the job in one day, I prefer the backup restore method which is quicker, and if you know what you are doing, it is not risky. Actually my method is the off-line copy and quicker still than doing a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 10:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Not if you have invested in Remote Management cards. For Compaq servers this would be the following :-http://www.compaq.com/manage/remote-lightsout.html. It does bump the cost per server up a little, but compare this to the over-time costs of having to pay someone else to baby-sit your servers over the weekend or overnight. You can even re-build the server to a new OS - all from the comfort of home. Mark -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 18:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware EXACTLY -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware True, that's advice I will definitely take on board. I have had situations whereby a server 'hangs' on shutdown and continues to respond to a ping indefinately, but refuses to allow me to connect in any other way -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 17:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I do the same thing. However it isn't will the box come back up that gets me. Its will the box cleanly shut down, since that is whrer I have always had my issues. Now days I always manually kill services before shutting down. IIS, SQL, Exch, etc. -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware The ECMSM worked great for me, luckily I have a lone Win2k VPN server set up for me and some Directors to connect up with our home ADSL accounts, and I can Dameware into the NT4 Exchange server to do some 'babysitting' although nothing was required. Set it and forget it indeed. I can have a lager at home too, which always tends to draw strange looks at work However, this method of operating servers from home creates some tense moments. Whilst working on servers located in far off places locked away in cupboards late at night, I always get a little anxious during a reboot watching the request timed out from the ping 192.168.2.25 -t wondering whether I left a floppy in the drive -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 17:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware All together: JUST SET IT.AND FORGET IT!! -Original Message- From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:15pm: Break in because problem account crashed IS when it tried to move it. 5:04pm: You do the above because you remember the key is locked inside. hehe Don't get me wrong I love the ECMSM works great, and is less filling. However; I did have several accounts that did the above last time I did the ECMSM. I don't think you can set it and forget it, some baby sitting is required. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware 5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down. 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out. -- Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE MessageOne 512-652-4500 x244 When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born. --Tao Te Ching -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Why only between 7am and 8am? Surely if you need to move them, a bit of overtime is in order to limit the downtime to the users. Plus with only 15GB, it could be easily done in a weekend with no impact to the end users and as you point out, would be much less risky. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 April 2002 08:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive. That does not give a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can take some time. Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and restore. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of minutes. -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Did you read the method Written By Darcy Adams in the FAQ? --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rowell, John (AFIT) Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 6:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Over 500. Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Months? I don't think you did it right. All told it should take perhaps a couple weeks: 1 day planning, making sure everything is prepared 1 day new server HW/OS/SP/HF installation 1 day Exchange installation, PF rehome, System Folders rehome, connector rehome 1-3 days for mailbox moves assuming large number of users and off-hours moves 1 week for user profiles to automatically adjust 1 hour to bring down old server and serve beer. === Andy Webb[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.swinc.com Simpler-Webb, Inc. Austin, TX512-322-0071 -- Eating XXX Chili at Texas Chili Parlor since 1989 -- === -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here? -Original Message- From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very effective, I would not discount the backup and restore method, where you do the whole move within one day. I've used the Ed Crawley Server Move method and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take months to move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if they are big. As a result, recently I used the server move method, and had great success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner. I wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to back out of it. There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup restore, ii) using off-line backup restore, and I found the latter easier. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Check the FAQ! Great info. -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Watch out for people sneaking up behind you whilst installing... Regards Mr Louis Joyce Data Support Analyst BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 March 2002 09:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
uh... the FAQ covers every single step of this. is there something you feel it misses? - Original Message - From: Sebastian, Didy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:20 AM Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
Following the Ed's server move method in the FAQ made my move simple -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up. Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well developed set of steps to doing it the right way. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new hardware. I am restoring from an online backup and will basically install everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5, Exchange Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the Information Store and Directory Store. Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to watch out for? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
