recurring scheduling problems

2003-02-12 Thread Mitchell Mike
Good afternoon,

Outlook 98 NT 4.0 SP4

I was working with a user on an Outlook scheduling problem and after we had
completed the rescheduling process
I was curious of how other people were handling reschedules.

Here is the scenario: User needed to reschedule a recurring meeting and the
resource that the meeting was to be held
was already occupied. The user removed the resource that was in use, and
found another resource.

Meeting was scheduled and the new resource accepted.  The only problem that
remains is that the original resource
was left with a meeting but no one will be there.

How do you handle this rescheduling issue?

Thanks for your input.

Mike Mitchell
Systems email Administrator
Alverno Information Services
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scheduling

2002-11-18 Thread Watkins V
Dear all,

How do you set the amount of free/busy information duration that any given
user shows? When making a meeting and you look at schedule, Some of my users
show up to the end of December and some go into next year.  I cannot see
what the difference is,
Ex5.5 sp4  NT4sp6a

Many thanks


Vanessa Watkins
Network Manager
Royal Holloway, University of London
Tel: 01784 443728
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RE: scheduling

2002-11-18 Thread Tom Meunier
Go into Outlook.
Hit F1.
Type [free busy] [enter]

It will tell you to go to tools  options  calendar options  free/busy
options  publish [] months of free/busy info.

 -Original Message-
 From: Watkins V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:00 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: scheduling
 Subject: scheduling
 
 
 Dear all,
 
 How do you set the amount of free/busy information duration 
 that any given user shows? When making a meeting and you look 
 at schedule, Some of my users show up to the end of December 
 and some go into next year.  I cannot see what the difference is,
 Ex5.5 sp4  NT4sp6a
 
 Many thanks
 
 
 Vanessa Watkins
 Network Manager
 Royal Holloway, University of London
 Tel: 01784 443728
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
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RE: scheduling

2002-11-18 Thread Roger Seielstad
Client side setting in Outlook.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Watkins V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:00 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling
 
 
 Dear all,
 
 How do you set the amount of free/busy information duration 
 that any given
 user shows? When making a meeting and you look at schedule, 
 Some of my users
 show up to the end of December and some go into next year.  I 
 cannot see
 what the difference is,
 Ex5.5 sp4  NT4sp6a
 
 Many thanks
 
 
 Vanessa Watkins
 Network Manager
 Royal Holloway, University of London
 Tel: 01784 443728
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
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Resource Scheduling

2002-08-16 Thread Jeffrey G. Witt

I am wondering what people are doing for resource scheduling. I have set up our 
conference rooms as users in E2K SP2. I set the resource scheduling options to auto 
accept meeting requests, Deny conflicts and deny reoccuring meetings. The problem I am 
having is how do I make the information about who has the room booked? I would also 
like to send back a link to veiw this conference room schedule when a meeting gets 
declined. I have looked at some of the auto accept scripts but they are only for 
Exchange 5.5. Thanks

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Huf North America 
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RE: Resource Scheduling

2002-08-16 Thread Crump, Jay

while logged on with the conf room profile, go to Tools, Options, Calendar Options.  
Click the Resource Scheduling button, tick the first two items here that have check 
boxes (automatically accept and automatically decline conflicts).  Make sure to set up 
permissions correctly.

Then take a look at the Free/Busy button - default is fine, but you might want to 
publish more than 2 months of free/busy for these conf room profiles.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Resource Scheduling


I am wondering what people are doing for resource scheduling. I have set up our 
conference rooms as users in E2K SP2. I set the resource scheduling options to auto 
accept meeting requests, Deny conflicts and deny reoccuring meetings. The problem I am 
having is how do I make the information about who has the room booked? I would also 
like to send back a link to veiw this conference room schedule when a meeting gets 
declined. I have looked at some of the auto accept scripts but they are only for 
Exchange 5.5. Thanks

Jeffrey Witt 
System Administrator 
Huf North America 
Work: (262) 257-2146 
Mobile: (414) 828-5386 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: Resource Scheduling

2002-08-16 Thread Crump, Jay

Sorry Jeffrey.  Didn't completely read your post.  As users create new appt requests, 
then assign the room mbx as a resource, they should see an 'Attendee Availability' tab 
on the new meeting request.  As long as you have free/busy published for this mailbox, 
users should be able to see when free time is available for the room.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Resource Scheduling


I am wondering what people are doing for resource scheduling. I have set up our 
conference rooms as users in E2K SP2. I set the resource scheduling options to auto 
accept meeting requests, Deny conflicts and deny reoccuring meetings. The problem I am 
having is how do I make the information about who has the room booked? I would also 
like to send back a link to veiw this conference room schedule when a meeting gets 
declined. I have looked at some of the auto accept scripts but they are only for 
Exchange 5.5. Thanks

Jeffrey Witt 
System Administrator 
Huf North America 
Work: (262) 257-2146 
Mobile: (414) 828-5386 
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RE: Resource Scheduling

2002-08-16 Thread Rob Hackney

I had a similar environment in my old job which was on an exch5.5
server.  If i needed to check how had sent the meeting requests, I think
the way I did was just to log on to that mailbox using the mail client
on the server and checking the inbox.  I'm afraid I can't remember
exactly how I did it but it was similar.  
There are probably better ways of doing it tho.

-Original Message-
From: Crump, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 August 2002 14:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Resource Scheduling


while logged on with the conf room profile, go to Tools, Options,
Calendar Options.  Click the Resource Scheduling button, tick the first
two items here that have check boxes (automatically accept and
automatically decline conflicts).  Make sure to set up permissions
correctly.

Then take a look at the Free/Busy button - default is fine, but you
might want to publish more than 2 months of free/busy for these conf
room profiles.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Resource Scheduling


I am wondering what people are doing for resource scheduling. I have set
up our conference rooms as users in E2K SP2. I set the resource
scheduling options to auto accept meeting requests, Deny conflicts and
deny reoccuring meetings. The problem I am having is how do I make the
information about who has the room booked? I would also like to send
back a link to veiw this conference room schedule when a meeting gets
declined. I have looked at some of the auto accept scripts but they are
only for Exchange 5.5. Thanks

Jeffrey Witt 
System Administrator 
Huf North America 
Work: (262) 257-2146 
Mobile: (414) 828-5386 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: Resource Scheduling

2002-08-16 Thread Crump, Jay

as long as other users have permissions to the conf room mbx's calendar, they can do 
File, Open, Other user's folder as well.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Resource Scheduling


I am wondering what people are doing for resource scheduling. I have set up our 
conference rooms as users in E2K SP2. I set the resource scheduling options to auto 
accept meeting requests, Deny conflicts and deny reoccuring meetings. The problem I am 
having is how do I make the information about who has the room booked? I would also 
like to send back a link to veiw this conference room schedule when a meeting gets 
declined. I have looked at some of the auto accept scripts but they are only for 
Exchange 5.5. Thanks

Jeffrey Witt 
System Administrator 
Huf North America 
Work: (262) 257-2146 
Mobile: (414) 828-5386 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: Resource Scheduling

2002-08-16 Thread Jeffrey G. Witt

Jay,

I have this set up already, My problem comes in when someone (Managers, CEO's 
Secretary) wants to have someone reschedule a meeting how can they find out who has it 
booked? can I publish this infomation in a public folder automatically? I know that it 
will come up within an hour of telling everyone to start using the exchange server for 
booking conference rooms. I do not want to confuse users with the file open open 
another calendar option.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Crump, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 8:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Jeffrey G. Witt
Subject: RE: Resource Scheduling


Sorry Jeffrey.  Didn't completely read your post.  As users create new appt requests, 
then assign the room mbx as a resource, they should see an 'Attendee Availability' tab 
on the new meeting request.  As long as you have free/busy published for this mailbox, 
users should be able to see when free time is available for the room.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Resource Scheduling


I am wondering what people are doing for resource scheduling. I have set up our 
conference rooms as users in E2K SP2. I set the resource scheduling options to auto 
accept meeting requests, Deny conflicts and deny reoccuring meetings. The problem I am 
having is how do I make the information about who has the room booked? I would also 
like to send back a link to veiw this conference room schedule when a meeting gets 
declined. I have looked at some of the auto accept scripts but they are only for 
Exchange 5.5. Thanks

Jeffrey Witt
System Administrator
Huf North America
Work: (262) 257-2146
Mobile: (414) 828-5386
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RE: Resource Scheduling

2002-08-16 Thread Crump, Jay

Jeffrey,

Just grant a small number (maybe just admins) to be able to modify meetings.  As long 
as a user has accepted meeting request, they can double click the meeting in their own 
calendar and tell who booked the meeting.

Granting permissions to modify/update meetings to just a select few takes care of 
headaches you might see if all users had this ability.

An no, you can't publish a mbx'es calendar to a public folder.  How big is your 
environment?

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Resource Scheduling


Jay,

I have this set up already, My problem comes in when someone (Managers, CEO's 
Secretary) wants to have someone reschedule a meeting how can they find out who has it 
booked? can I publish this infomation in a public folder automatically? I know that it 
will come up within an hour of telling everyone to start using the exchange server for 
booking conference rooms. I do not want to confuse users with the file open open 
another calendar option.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Crump, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 8:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Jeffrey G. Witt
Subject: RE: Resource Scheduling


Sorry Jeffrey.  Didn't completely read your post.  As users create new appt requests, 
then assign the room mbx as a resource, they should see an 'Attendee Availability' tab 
on the new meeting request.  As long as you have free/busy published for this mailbox, 
users should be able to see when free time is available for the room.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Resource Scheduling


I am wondering what people are doing for resource scheduling. I have set up our 
conference rooms as users in E2K SP2. I set the resource scheduling options to auto 
accept meeting requests, Deny conflicts and deny reoccuring meetings. The problem I am 
having is how do I make the information about who has the room booked? I would also 
like to send back a link to veiw this conference room schedule when a meeting gets 
declined. I have looked at some of the auto accept scripts but they are only for 
Exchange 5.5. Thanks

Jeffrey Witt
System Administrator
Huf North America
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Mobile: (414) 828-5386
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RE: Resource Scheduling

2002-08-16 Thread Jeffrey G. Witt

Thanks Jay, 

We have 2 Exchange servers in 2 sites with about 150 total users.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Crump, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Resource Scheduling


Jeffrey,

Just grant a small number (maybe just admins) to be able to modify meetings.  As long 
as a user has accepted meeting request, they can double click the meeting in their own 
calendar and tell who booked the meeting.

Granting permissions to modify/update meetings to just a select few takes care of 
headaches you might see if all users had this ability.

An no, you can't publish a mbx'es calendar to a public folder.  How big is your 
environment?

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Resource Scheduling


Jay,

I have this set up already, My problem comes in when someone (Managers, CEO's 
Secretary) wants to have someone reschedule a meeting how can they find out who has it 
booked? can I publish this infomation in a public folder automatically? I know that it 
will come up within an hour of telling everyone to start using the exchange server for 
booking conference rooms. I do not want to confuse users with the file open open 
another calendar option.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Crump, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 8:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Jeffrey G. Witt
Subject: RE: Resource Scheduling


Sorry Jeffrey.  Didn't completely read your post.  As users create new appt requests, 
then assign the room mbx as a resource, they should see an 'Attendee Availability' tab 
on the new meeting request.  As long as you have free/busy published for this mailbox, 
users should be able to see when free time is available for the room.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Resource Scheduling


I am wondering what people are doing for resource scheduling. I have set up our 
conference rooms as users in E2K SP2. I set the resource scheduling options to auto 
accept meeting requests, Deny conflicts and deny reoccuring meetings. The problem I am 
having is how do I make the information about who has the room booked? I would also 
like to send back a link to veiw this conference room schedule when a meeting gets 
declined. I have looked at some of the auto accept scripts but they are only for 
Exchange 5.5. Thanks

Jeffrey Witt
System Administrator
Huf North America
Work: (262) 257-2146
Mobile: (414) 828-5386
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RE: Resource Scheduling across Exchange Organizations

2002-08-15 Thread Chris Scharff

Not in reply to your post directly, but this bit is still appropriate:

The auto-resource-booking feature you mention is a client side feature.
Behind the scenes, Outlook actually opens up the target mailbox and enters
the item on the resource's calendar at the time you send the meeting
request -- KC Lemson, Microsoft.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ragar, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 1:21 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Resource Scheduling across Exchange Organizations
 
 I'm trying to do resource scheduling across Exchange Organizations.  The
 sender's mailbox is part of an Exchange 2000 SP2 and the user is using
 Outlook 2002 with SP1.  The conference room is an Active contact
 referring to the SMTP address of the conference room in another Org
 which is Exchange 5.5 SP4.  InterOrg Synchronization of the Busy/Search
 Public Folder is working, so busy search is functioning.  However, when
 I attempt to book, this resource I get the following message:
 
   Cannot open the mailbox for this user because the user does not
 have a server mailbox.  Unable to directly book a resource for this
 meeting.
 
 It looks like I've completely misunderstood how resource booking occurs.
 This implies that the Outlook client directly opens the mailbox to the
 resource for booking.
 
 How does one do resource scheduling across Exchange Organizations?
 
 Russell Ragar, MCSE+I, CCNA, CNE
 Senior Network Engineer
 PowerTV, Inc.
 
 
 
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RE: Resource Scheduling across Exchange Organizations

2002-08-15 Thread Chris Scharff

That being said... what functionality would a resource scheduling solution
(which worked across organizations) need to contain[1] and what would you be
willing to pay for it[2]?


[1] Required features and nice to have feature requirements?
[2] He said as he marshaled his vast army of independent coding
professionals.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff
 Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:05 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Resource Scheduling across Exchange Organizations
 
 Not in reply to your post directly, but this bit is still appropriate:
 
 The auto-resource-booking feature you mention is a client side feature.
 Behind the scenes, Outlook actually opens up the target mailbox and
 enters
 the item on the resource's calendar at the time you send the meeting
 request -- KC Lemson, Microsoft.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ragar, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 1:21 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Resource Scheduling across Exchange Organizations
 
  I'm trying to do resource scheduling across Exchange Organizations.  The
  sender's mailbox is part of an Exchange 2000 SP2 and the user is using
  Outlook 2002 with SP1.  The conference room is an Active contact
  referring to the SMTP address of the conference room in another Org
  which is Exchange 5.5 SP4.  InterOrg Synchronization of the Busy/Search
  Public Folder is working, so busy search is functioning.  However, when
  I attempt to book, this resource I get the following message:
 
  Cannot open the mailbox for this user because the user does not
  have a server mailbox.  Unable to directly book a resource for this
  meeting.
 
  It looks like I've completely misunderstood how resource booking occurs.
  This implies that the Outlook client directly opens the mailbox to the
  resource for booking.
 
  How does one do resource scheduling across Exchange Organizations?
 
  Russell Ragar, MCSE+I, CCNA, CNE
  Senior Network Engineer
  PowerTV, Inc.
 
 
 
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RE: Scheduling Conflict

2002-06-28 Thread Ed Crowley

Who says it's not supposed to happen?  What have you implemented to
prevent it?

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One of our users told me that she had scheduled meeting room 1 then a
second user was able to double book that same room at.  When the second
user refreshed her screen she could see that the first user had booked
the room as well.  They believe that they must have booked meeting room
1 at the same time.  This is not suppost to happen but it happens quite
often. 
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Scheduling Conflict

2002-06-27 Thread adamv

One of our users told me that she had scheduled meeting room 1 then a
second user was able to double book that same room at.  When the second
user refreshed her screen she could see that the first user had booked the
room as well.  They believe that they must have booked meeting room 1 at
the same time.  This is not suppost to happen but it happens quite often. 
Anyone have any idea why it happened and how to prevent it.


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RE: Update IE w/out reboot (was: scheduling automatic rebooting...)

2002-04-26 Thread Filipe Joel de Almeida

Same here. I had to reboot my laptop (W2KPro) when installing IE6, but
my server didn't ask me to. He DID ask me to reboot when upgraded from
IE5.01 to IE 5.5, but not when upgraded from 5.5 to 6.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mynhier
Sent: quinta-feira, 25 de Abril de 2002 22:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Update IE w/out reboot (was: scheduling automatic
rebooting...)

I clicked Tool - Windows Update and then chose IE6
No prompt
No reboot

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:06 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Update IE w/out reboot (was: scheduling automatic
rebooting...)
Subject: Update IE w/out reboot (was: scheduling automatic rebooting...)


On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 6:08pm, Stephen Mynhier wrote:
 Oh my God... That is absolutely amazing!  I managed to upgrade IE on 
 my Win 2k Adv Server today without rebooting it!  I have accomplished 
 the impossible!  We need a committee to study this! (get your facts 
 straight)

  I would be happy to (get my facts straight, that is).  How do you do
this?  
It always prompts me to reboot, and does even give me the option to
reboot later.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-26 Thread Ely, Don

Funny, I was thinking leaky memory in third party admin...  ;o)


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-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-26 Thread Ely, Don

$50???  Is that all?   Not worth it for some lame Linux box and don't think
some stupid feature like IPChains is gonna keep someone out.

I believe Roger has said it best...  BSD Skunks the Penguin!


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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run 
 on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
 over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
 Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55 
 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
 for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
 they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
 any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 
 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
 to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
 server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
 certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
 greatly appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
 Sixth Floor
 Washington, DC 20005
 Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
 Fax: 202-842-0991
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.newisraelfund.org
 
 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-26 Thread Ely, Don

But he said it has been up for a year and 4 months.  You're saying it's been
up for 35 days?


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-Original Message-
From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good.
Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run
 on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
 over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
 Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
 for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that
 they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
 any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows
 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
 to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
 server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
 certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
 greatly appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
 Sixth Floor
 Washington, DC 20005
 Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
 Fax: 202-842-0991
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.newisraelfund.org
 
 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-26 Thread Ely, Don

ROFLMFAO!!

If you don't know what it is, don't tell us we can't take your box down.


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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap? What's that?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run 
 on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
 over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
 Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55 
 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
 for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
 they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
 any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 
 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
 to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail

 server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
 certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
 greatly appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
 Sixth Floor
 Washington

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-26 Thread Ely, Don

Whose to say I can't figure that out your work address sitting right here?


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And this isn't the same Linux box. Same config though. This one runs my
website. I had to take it down cause I added more Ram in it. I'm not giving
out the IP to my work one. -Chris

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run 
 on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
 over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
 Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55 
 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
 for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
 they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
 any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 
 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
 to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail

 server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
 certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
 greatly appreciate the information

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-26 Thread Ely, Don

I'll help you Tom!  What would you like today?  Would you like fries with
that?  ;o)


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Think I should open up a PSS call for not having to reboot mine
periodically?  Didn't have to with Gold or SP1, either.  I guess I'm doing
something wrong.  Maybe a consultant could help me...

-tom

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 01:45 PM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Frankly, Exchange 5.5 SP4 that we have has been running
 without restarting for MANY months now.
 
 But Exchange 2000 does not seem to be as stable. Maybe by the
 time they release SP4 it will be stable :)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 bzzzttt...
 
 Come on, I was running this stuff YEARS ago without the need
 to reboot periodically.  There's an issue that hasn't been 
 found, and rebooting is a stop gap, not a real solution!
 
 M
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:20 PM
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 u they only have 1 user :)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:57 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Sir,
 
 How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday
 without any (or little:-)) errors?
 

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RE: Update IE w/out reboot (was: scheduling automatic rebooting...)

2002-04-26 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, at 4:47pm, Stephen Mynhier wrote:
 I clicked Tool - Windows Update and then chose IE6
 No prompt
 No reboot

  Interesting.  It has always forced a reboot for me.  After it runs through
the update, I get a dialog box saying I should close all programs and click
the Finish button to complete installation.  The only button available is
that same Finish button.  As soon as I click Finish, it shuts down and
reboots the server.

On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, at 1:00pm, Filipe Joel de Almeida wrote:
 Same here. I had to reboot my laptop (W2KPro) when installing IE6, but my
 server didn't ask me to. He DID ask me to reboot when upgraded from IE5.01
 to IE 5.5, but not when upgraded from 5.5 to 6.

  So, sometimes you have to reboot, and sometimes you do not.  Isn't that
special.

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RE: VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)

2002-04-26 Thread March, Harold W.


If he's willing to part with the cash, RAdmin is an
alternative if you're a pure NT/W2K shop:
http://www.famatech.com/


 -Original Message-
 From: Benjamin Scott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:07 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)
 
 On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 4:38pm, Ken Cornetet wrote:
  I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but freeware
  still scares management around here (But who will you call for
  support?).
 
   http://www.tridia.com
 
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RE: VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)

2002-04-26 Thread Orr, Dale

Radmin Rocks. V2.1 particularly.

-Original Message-
From: March, Harold W. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)



If he's willing to part with the cash, RAdmin is an
alternative if you're a pure NT/W2K shop:
http://www.famatech.com/


 -Original Message-
 From: Benjamin Scott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:07 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)
 
 On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 4:38pm, Ken Cornetet wrote:
  I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but freeware
  still scares management around here (But who will you call for
  support?).
 
   http://www.tridia.com
 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Roger Seielstad

Try Netmeeting Remote Desktop. Its as good (if not better) than anything
else out there. It really rocks.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we 
 upgraded from 8 to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers 
 altogether, but considering that my servers are all over the 
 world, I can't really do that.
 
 On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are 
 rock-solid, so I can't say for sure it's a problem.
 
 I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but 
 freeware still scares management around here (But who will 
 you call for support?).
 
 I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - 
 no more 3rd party remote control.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your 
 stability. And no, I'm not joking. I've never once seen a 
 system that was more stable with that installed than without it.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
  server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
  
  Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
  out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
  monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
  free (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
  
  Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
  the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
  when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
  never go down cleanly.
  
  In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2
  days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.
  
  For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots
  aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
  me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
  and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
  RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
  our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
  servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
  test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
  and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
  
  I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not
  bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
  obscure bugs obscure.
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  But why are the reboots required?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot
  our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
  for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
  what you want.
  
  It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
  verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
  complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
  reboot is running after the reboot.
  
  Sends email showing the results.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of
  Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
  have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
  trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
  reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
  knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
  appreciate the information.
  
  
  
  
  _
  James Cornett 
   
  Network Administrator
  New Israel Fund
  1101 14th Street, NW
  Sixth Floor
  Washington, DC 20005
  Phone: 202

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Roger Seielstad

Depends. Do you have a Premier Support Agreement? If so, the answer can be
yes.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:33 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Fix it how? Who's the vendor that I can go to and say fix 
 it!? Microsoft? Legato?
 
 Even if I remove Legato and PCAnywhere from my servers so 
 that it is Microsoft only, do you think Microsoft is going to 
 send engineers out here to track down why our IS does not 
 shut down cleanly after the server has been running for months?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:29 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Yeah, and then you fix it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:26 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 The fact that some people can smoke 3 packs of Marlboros a 
 day and still live to be 90 years old doesn't mean that 
 cigarettes aren't dangerous. Likewise, the fact that you (and 
 others) can run problem-free computer systems without 
 rebooting doesn't mean there aren't bugs in the software. It 
 simply means that people have different computer 
 environments. Different users, different software, different 
 networks, hell, maybe different gamma rays - who knows?
 
 The simple fact is that NT and Exchange (and other auxiliary 
 software like backup agents and remote-control) are not 
 bug-free, nor will they ever be. Some bugs, when tickled, 
 create subtle corruption (overwriting a random memory 
 location, locking a resource, whatever). Eventually, some 
 vital organ is hit and the system gets sick...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Sir,
 
   How do you explain the folks who run this stuff 
 everyday without any (or little:-)) errors?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA 
 server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
 
 Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking 
 out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
 monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
 free (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
 
 Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to 
 the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
 when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
 never go down cleanly.
 
 In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2 
 days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.
 
 For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots 
 aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
 me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
 and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
 RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
 our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
 servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
 test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
 and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
 
 I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not 
 bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
 obscure bugs obscure.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
 our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
 for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
 what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
 verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
 complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
 reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Myles, Damian

Roger,

Do you need an ILS Server for that ?

Regards
Mylo

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2002 14:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Try Netmeeting Remote Desktop. Its as good (if not better) than anything
else out there. It really rocks.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we 
 upgraded from 8 to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers 
 altogether, but considering that my servers are all over the 
 world, I can't really do that.
 
 On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are 
 rock-solid, so I can't say for sure it's a problem.
 
 I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but 
 freeware still scares management around here (But who will 
 you call for support?).
 
 I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - 
 no more 3rd party remote control.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your 
 stability. And no, I'm not joking. I've never once seen a 
 system that was more stable with that installed than without it.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
  server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
  
  Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
  out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
  monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
  free (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
  
  Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
  the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
  when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
  never go down cleanly.
  
  In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2
  days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.
  
  For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots
  aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
  me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
  and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
  RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
  our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
  servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
  test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
  and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
  
  I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not
  bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
  obscure bugs obscure.
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  But why are the reboots required?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot
  our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
  for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
  what you want.
  
  It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
  verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
  complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
  reboot is running after the reboot.
  
  Sends email showing the results.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of
  Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
  have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
  trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
  reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
  knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
  appreciate the information

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Ben Winzenz

No.  All you need is Netmeeting installed on the Servers.  Then, once
Netmeeting is installed, you can configure it to enable Remote Desktop
Sharing.  Once that is installed, you can connect to it from your box via
Netmeeting.  Try a search on Technet for Netmeeting Remote Desktop Sharing.
You'll probably find a bunch of info.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

Roger,

Do you need an ILS Server for that ?

Regards
Mylo

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2002 14:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Try Netmeeting Remote Desktop. Its as good (if not better) than anything
else out there. It really rocks.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we 
 upgraded from 8 to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers 
 altogether, but considering that my servers are all over the 
 world, I can't really do that.
 
 On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are 
 rock-solid, so I can't say for sure it's a problem.
 
 I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but 
 freeware still scares management around here (But who will 
 you call for support?).
 
 I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - 
 no more 3rd party remote control.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your 
 stability. And no, I'm not joking. I've never once seen a 
 system that was more stable with that installed than without it.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
  server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
  
  Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
  out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
  monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
  free (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
  
  Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
  the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
  when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
  never go down cleanly.
  
  In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2
  days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.
  
  For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots
  aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
  me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
  and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
  RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
  our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
  servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
  test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
  and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
  
  I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not
  bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
  obscure bugs obscure.
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  But why are the reboots required?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot
  our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
  for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
  what you want.
  
  It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
  verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
  complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
  reboot is running after the reboot.
  
  Sends email showing the results.
  
  -Original

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Rocky Stefano

maybe in your relationship :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kim Schotanus
 Sent: April 25, 2002 10:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 A woman has the last word in any argument. 
 Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 25 April, 2002 4:39 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Thanks
 
 Regards,
 Mylo
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 25 April 2002 16:23
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 No.  All you need is Netmeeting installed on the Servers.  Then, once
 Netmeeting is installed, you can configure it to enable Remote Desktop
 Sharing.  Once that is installed, you can connect to it from your box
 via
 Netmeeting.  Try a search on Technet for Netmeeting Remote Desktop
 Sharing.
 You'll probably find a bunch of info.
 
 Ben Winzenz, MCSE
 Network/Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:27 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 Roger,
 
 Do you need an ILS Server for that ?
 
 Regards
 Mylo
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 25 April 2002 14:16
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Try Netmeeting Remote Desktop. Its as good (if not better) than anything
 else out there. It really rocks.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we 
  upgraded from 8 to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers 
  altogether, but considering that my servers are all over the 
  world, I can't really do that.
  
  On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are 
  rock-solid, so I can't say for sure it's a problem.
  
  I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but 
  freeware still scares management around here (But who will 
  you call for support?).
  
  I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - 
  no more 3rd party remote control.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your 
  stability. And no, I'm not joking. I've never once seen a 
  system that was more stable with that installed than without it.
  
  --
  Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
  Sr. Systems Administrator
  Peregrine Systems
  Atlanta, GA
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
   
   
   Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
   server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
   
   Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
   out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
   monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
   free (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
   
   Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
   the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
   when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
   never go down cleanly.
   
   In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2
   days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.
   
   For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots
   aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
   me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
   and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
   RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
   our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
   servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
   test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
   and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
   
   I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not
   bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
   obscure bugs obscure.
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Andy David

Update IE w/out reboot (was: scheduling automatic rebooting...)

2002-04-25 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 6:08pm, Stephen Mynhier wrote:
 Oh my God... That is absolutely amazing!  I managed to upgrade IE on my
 Win 2k Adv Server today without rebooting it!  I have accomplished the
 impossible!  We need a committee to study this!
 (get your facts straight)

  I would be happy to (get my facts straight, that is).  How do you do this?  
It always prompts me to reboot, and does even give me the option to reboot
later.

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VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)

2002-04-25 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 4:38pm, Ken Cornetet wrote:
 I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but freeware
 still scares management around here (But who will you call for
 support?).

  http://www.tridia.com

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Re: VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)

2002-04-25 Thread David McSpadden

The VNC was featured in the Windows  .NET Magazine.

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 On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 4:38pm, Ken Cornetet wrote:
  I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but freeware
  still scares management around here (But who will you call for
  support?).

   http://www.tridia.com

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and IIS
services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops accepting
users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

There is a RESTART.VBS that comes in the Windows 2000 support tools or in
the Windows 2000 Res Kit (can't remember which one)

You could write a batch file that will run RESTART.VBS and schedule it to
run every Sunday.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Sometimes the very thing that leaks is the one that you cannot chop (or
upgrade)

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You have leaky memory.

Performance monitor, Task manager.  Use these tools to find the culprit
and then . Chop it out/upgrade etc...

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Julian Stone

What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and
IIS services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops
accepting users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Sounds like what I am dealing with. Although I have not seen Fragmented
Memory warnings for a long time now. Ever since I put the /3GB switch in the
BOOT.INI

How much physical RAM does your server have? If you use more than 1GB of
RAM, you should put /3GB switch in the BOOT.INI or the server cannot take
advantage of the memory above 1GB and starts fragmenting the existing
memory.

Check this for more info
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q266096

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


I was wondering that myself; even after a few hours Event Viewer says
Memory
is Fragmented blah blah. I can safely? ignore that for anywhere from a
few
days to a few weeks, then OWA will stop working, then MAPI clients
outboxes
slowly fill up with half-sent things and mail delivery ceases.  When
this
happens I take a few minutes looking at Services - None have stopped,
and
Event logs, nothing obvious to me. I reboot and all is well again for a
few
days up to a few weeks.  I intend to order Win2K Server Resource Kit to
get
shutdown.exe, and schedule it for latenight Saturdays.  

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Well, Microsoft has not designed a fix yet that will cure all the problems.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying your
head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

u they only have 1 user :)

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Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

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Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread missy koslosky

bzzzttt...

Come on, I was running this stuff YEARS ago without the need to reboot
periodically.  There's an issue that hasn't been found, and rebooting is
a stop gap, not a real solution!

M
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From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


u they only have 1 user :)

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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

As far as I can see, nothing is wrong. The server ran fine for months
without any restarts or reboots before SP2.

We went with SP2 because of better OWA features and better SMTP queue
management. Before SP2 we used to get messages stuck in the Awaiting
Directory Lookup queue and there was no way to get rid of them. Those pesky
messages eventually ate all the memory. We had to stop the SMTP virtual
server and create a new SMTP virtual server. After SP2, we can simply remove
those messages from this queue.



But a few days after installing SP2, we ran into the OWA problem:
When OWA gives up, there are no warnings or errors in the event log, CPU or
memory utilization do not change. Everything looks the same, but OWA does
not like people's passwords anymore. Although this could have something to
do with Kerberos tickets expiring (or not expiring) on time...

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and
IIS services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops
accepting users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Kelly_Borndale


No one has... it isn't just Microsoft.

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Well, Microsoft has not designed a fix yet that will cure all the problems.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying your
head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Chuck Bryant

It has 4G Ram but...
Q266096 says the /3GB switch is for Advanced Server, mine's just
Windows
2000 Server  Would upgrading that help? Would I get my money back if it
doesn't?

Before I had E2KSP2 I tried the /3GB switch anyway, and the event log
recorded an event suggesting that the switch was wrong. This was a long
time
ago I don't think I have that event log item anymore. I've read other Q
Articles that also suggest /3GB is only for Advanced Server.

Meanwhile my server did whatever it does that makes it stop again this
morning so as soon as I rebooted I printed screens of Task Manager
showing
memory usage, peak memory, cpu and will repeat the next time I have
trouble
- maybe this will give me a lead on which of the 100s of parameters in
PerfMon to monitor for an actual cause for this problem. The event log
showed 

MSExchangeDSAccess  Topology 
Event ID:   2103
Process MAD.EXE (PID=1844). All Global Catalog Servers in use are not
responding: 
exchange.JohnBurnham.com 
 
EventID.net suggests this may be ignored in single GC/DC environments
like
my own.
The Microsoft Content Redirect link in the event log, as usual, shows
nothing.

Maybe this has nothing to do with my need to reboot, which I would
rather
schedule at night than unscheduled when my phone rings people saying
stuff
is in my outbox; I'm not getting email; or The salesperson I support
is
in the field and needs help getting their email from the internet
 
Thanks for everyone's input  suggestions thus far.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:17 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Sounds like what I am dealing with. Although I have not seen 
 Fragmented
 Memory warnings for a long time now. Ever since I put the 
 /3GB switch in the
 BOOT.INI
 
 How much physical RAM does your server have? If you use more 
 than 1GB of
 RAM, you should put /3GB switch in the BOOT.INI or the server 
 cannot take
 advantage of the memory above 1GB and starts fragmenting the existing
 memory.
 
 Check this for more info
 http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q266096
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chuck Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 I was wondering that myself; even after a few hours Event Viewer says
 Memory
 is Fragmented blah blah. I can safely? ignore that for anywhere from a
 few
 days to a few weeks, then OWA will stop working, then MAPI clients
 outboxes
 slowly fill up with half-sent things and mail delivery ceases.  When
 this
 happens I take a few minutes looking at Services - None have stopped,
 and
 Event logs, nothing obvious to me. I reboot and all is well 
 again for a
 few
 days up to a few weeks.  I intend to order Win2K Server 
 Resource Kit to
 get
 shutdown.exe, and schedule it for latenight Saturdays.  
 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Julian Stone

Awaiting Directory Lookup this would indicate that you have dsaccess
problems, which would also start to explain the OWA logon issues. 

So, IMHO, I think you should look at the communication between your
exchange servers and your DC\GC servers.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


As far as I can see, nothing is wrong. The server ran fine for months
without any restarts or reboots before SP2.

We went with SP2 because of better OWA features and better SMTP queue
management. Before SP2 we used to get messages stuck in the Awaiting
Directory Lookup queue and there was no way to get rid of them. Those
pesky messages eventually ate all the memory. We had to stop the SMTP
virtual server and create a new SMTP virtual server. After SP2, we can
simply remove those messages from this queue.



But a few days after installing SP2, we ran into the OWA problem: When
OWA gives up, there are no warnings or errors in the event log, CPU or
memory utilization do not change. Everything looks the same, but OWA
does not like people's passwords anymore. Although this could have
something to do with Kerberos tickets expiring (or not expiring) on
time...

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and
IIS services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops
accepting users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

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Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread missy koslosky

You need AS to take advantage of having that much RAM.

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Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


It has 4G Ram but...
Q266096 says the /3GB switch is for Advanced Server, mine's just
Windows
2000 Server  Would upgrading that help? Would I get my money back if it
doesn't?

Before I had E2KSP2 I tried the /3GB switch anyway, and the event log
recorded an event suggesting that the switch was wrong. This was a long
time
ago I don't think I have that event log item anymore. I've read other Q
Articles that also suggest /3GB is only for Advanced Server.

Meanwhile my server did whatever it does that makes it stop again this
morning so as soon as I rebooted I printed screens of Task Manager
showing
memory usage, peak memory, cpu and will repeat the next time I have
trouble
- maybe this will give me a lead on which of the 100s of parameters in
PerfMon to monitor for an actual cause for this problem. The event log
showed

MSExchangeDSAccess Topology
Event ID: 2103
Process MAD.EXE (PID=1844). All Global Catalog Servers in use are not
responding:
exchange.JohnBurnham.com

EventID.net suggests this may be ignored in single GC/DC environments
like
my own.
The Microsoft Content Redirect link in the event log, as usual, shows
nothing.

Maybe this has nothing to do with my need to reboot, which I would
rather
schedule at night than unscheduled when my phone rings people saying
stuff
is in my outbox; I'm not getting email; or The salesperson I support
is
in the field and needs help getting their email from the internet

Thanks for everyone's input  suggestions thus far.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:17 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


 Sounds like what I am dealing with. Although I have not seen
 Fragmented
 Memory warnings for a long time now. Ever since I put the
 /3GB switch in the
 BOOT.INI

 How much physical RAM does your server have? If you use more
 than 1GB of
 RAM, you should put /3GB switch in the BOOT.INI or the server
 cannot take
 advantage of the memory above 1GB and starts fragmenting the existing
 memory.

 Check this for more info
 http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q266096

 -Original Message-
 From: Chuck Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


 I was wondering that myself; even after a few hours Event Viewer says
 Memory
 is Fragmented blah blah. I can safely? ignore that for anywhere from a
 few
 days to a few weeks, then OWA will stop working, then MAPI clients
 outboxes
 slowly fill up with half-sent things and mail delivery ceases.  When
 this
 happens I take a few minutes looking at Services - None have stopped,
 and
 Event logs, nothing obvious to me. I reboot and all is well
 again for a
 few
 days up to a few weeks.  I intend to order Win2K Server
 Resource Kit to
 get
 shutdown.exe, and schedule it for latenight Saturdays.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

There are no obstacles between Exchange servers and DC/GC servers

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 4:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Awaiting Directory Lookup this would indicate that you have dsaccess
problems, which would also start to explain the OWA logon issues. 

So, IMHO, I think you should look at the communication between your
exchange servers and your DC\GC servers.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


As far as I can see, nothing is wrong. The server ran fine for months
without any restarts or reboots before SP2.

We went with SP2 because of better OWA features and better SMTP queue
management. Before SP2 we used to get messages stuck in the Awaiting
Directory Lookup queue and there was no way to get rid of them. Those
pesky messages eventually ate all the memory. We had to stop the SMTP
virtual server and create a new SMTP virtual server. After SP2, we can
simply remove those messages from this queue.



But a few days after installing SP2, we ran into the OWA problem: When
OWA gives up, there are no warnings or errors in the event log, CPU or
memory utilization do not change. Everything looks the same, but OWA
does not like people's passwords anymore. Although this could have
something to do with Kerberos tickets expiring (or not expiring) on
time...

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and
IIS services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops
accepting users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Wanted to clarify my earlier statements:

the Exchange server that we end up resetting every night is the back-end
Exchange server with about 1,500 mailboxes.

The front-end Exchange 2000 servers with SP2 normally run for months on end
without problems. They deal with SSL and non-SSL OWA, POP3, IMAP, SMTP,
Virus scanning (Sybari Antigen). All they need is a good amount of RAM and
they have 1GB of it each.

The back-end deals with OWA, POP3, IMAP, SMTP connections from the
front-ends, + direct Outlook MAPI connections. It also runs Sybari Antigen.
The back-end has 4GB of RAM and 2 Xeon CPUs.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Frankly, Exchange 5.5 SP4 that we have has been running without restarting
for MANY months now.

But Exchange 2000 does not seem to be as stable. Maybe by the time they
release SP4 it will be stable :)

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


bzzzttt...

Come on, I was running this stuff YEARS ago without the need to reboot
periodically.  There's an issue that hasn't been found, and rebooting is
a stop gap, not a real solution!

M
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


u they only have 1 user :)

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Stephen Mynhier

And no car manufacturer has made a car yet that will not crash

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:19 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Well, Microsoft has not designed a fix yet that will cure all the
problems.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying
your head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Stephen Mynhier

I am amazed daily at the number of people who blame Exchange when they
are having DNS issues

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:52 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Awaiting Directory Lookup this would indicate that you have dsaccess
problems, which would also start to explain the OWA logon issues. 

So, IMHO, I think you should look at the communication between your
exchange servers and your DC\GC servers.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


As far as I can see, nothing is wrong. The server ran fine for months
without any restarts or reboots before SP2.

We went with SP2 because of better OWA features and better SMTP queue
management. Before SP2 we used to get messages stuck in the Awaiting
Directory Lookup queue and there was no way to get rid of them. Those
pesky messages eventually ate all the memory. We had to stop the SMTP
virtual server and create a new SMTP virtual server. After SP2, we can
simply remove those messages from this queue.



But a few days after installing SP2, we ran into the OWA problem: When
OWA gives up, there are no warnings or errors in the event log, CPU or
memory utilization do not change. Everything looks the same, but OWA
does not like people's passwords anymore. Although this could have
something to do with Kerberos tickets expiring (or not expiring) on
time...

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and
IIS services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops
accepting users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Dillon, Jeff

Nor one that could reliably crash several times a day.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And no car manufacturer has made a car yet that will not crash

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:19 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Well, Microsoft has not designed a fix yet that will cure all the
problems.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying
your head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Glaman, Mark

Its not really a surprise.. Most people don't understand DNS.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


I am amazed daily at the number of people who blame Exchange when they
are having DNS issues

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:52 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Awaiting Directory Lookup this would indicate that you have dsaccess
problems, which would also start to explain the OWA logon issues. 

So, IMHO, I think you should look at the communication between your
exchange servers and your DC\GC servers.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


As far as I can see, nothing is wrong. The server ran fine for months
without any restarts or reboots before SP2.

We went with SP2 because of better OWA features and better SMTP queue
management. Before SP2 we used to get messages stuck in the Awaiting
Directory Lookup queue and there was no way to get rid of them. Those
pesky messages eventually ate all the memory. We had to stop the SMTP
virtual server and create a new SMTP virtual server. After SP2, we can
simply remove those messages from this queue.



But a few days after installing SP2, we ran into the OWA problem: When
OWA gives up, there are no warnings or errors in the event log, CPU or
memory utilization do not change. Everything looks the same, but OWA
does not like people's passwords anymore. Although this could have
something to do with Kerberos tickets expiring (or not expiring) on
time...

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and
IIS services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops
accepting users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Soysal, Serdar

In this organization every network problem is first reported as an Exchange
Issue.  It's probably due to the fact that Outlook is the only network
application that EVERY client uses and it is usually the very first network
application that they open.  That's probably the reason why the network
problems are reported as exchange issues.  Well, that and an untrainable
mass of helpdeskians.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


I am amazed daily at the number of people who blame Exchange when they are
having DNS issues

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:52 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Awaiting Directory Lookup this would indicate that you have dsaccess
problems, which would also start to explain the OWA logon issues. 

So, IMHO, I think you should look at the communication between your exchange
servers and your DC\GC servers.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


As far as I can see, nothing is wrong. The server ran fine for months
without any restarts or reboots before SP2.

We went with SP2 because of better OWA features and better SMTP queue
management. Before SP2 we used to get messages stuck in the Awaiting
Directory Lookup queue and there was no way to get rid of them. Those pesky
messages eventually ate all the memory. We had to stop the SMTP virtual
server and create a new SMTP virtual server. After SP2, we can simply remove
those messages from this queue.



But a few days after installing SP2, we ran into the OWA problem: When OWA
gives up, there are no warnings or errors in the event log, CPU or memory
utilization do not change. Everything looks the same, but OWA does not like
people's passwords anymore. Although this could have something to do with
Kerberos tickets expiring (or not expiring) on time...

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and IIS
services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops accepting
users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

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RE: Update IE w/out reboot (was: scheduling automatic rebooting...)

2002-04-25 Thread Stephen Mynhier

I clicked Tool - Windows Update and then chose IE6
No prompt
No reboot

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:06 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Update IE w/out reboot (was: scheduling automatic
rebooting...)
Subject: Update IE w/out reboot (was: scheduling automatic rebooting...)


On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 6:08pm, Stephen Mynhier wrote:
 Oh my God... That is absolutely amazing!  I managed to upgrade IE on 
 my Win 2k Adv Server today without rebooting it!  I have accomplished 
 the impossible!  We need a committee to study this! (get your facts 
 straight)

  I would be happy to (get my facts straight, that is).  How do you do
this?  
It always prompts me to reboot, and does even give me the option to
reboot later.

-- 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Ray Zorz

MG came close though. Their cars wouldn't start. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Mynhier
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And no car manufacturer has made a car yet that will not crash

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:19 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Well, Microsoft has not designed a fix yet that will cure all the
problems.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying
your head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


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scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread James Cornett

Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000 Servers. I 
have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing about how to do this. 
What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine reboot say 
every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I 
would greatly appreciate the information.




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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Chris Scharff

Quack!

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 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
 Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
 have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
 trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
 reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
 knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Hunter, Lori

scooby doo voice e???   

Why on earth would you want to do that?

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have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Hunter, Lori

Are you the guy from the haunted amusement park??

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And I would have gotten away with it if it wasnt for you meddling admins.


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scooby doo voice e???   

Why on earth would you want to do that?

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have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Andy David

Yup. No one knew it was me until Daphne pulled off my thong.


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Are you the guy from the haunted amusement park??

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And I would have gotten away with it if it wasnt for you meddling admins.


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scooby doo voice e???   

Why on earth would you want to do that?

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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
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Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
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have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Ken Cornetet

If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Andy David

But why are the reboots required?


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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
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Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Adam Romain

You have leaky memory.

Performance monitor, Task manager.  Use these tools to find the culprit
and then . Chop it out/upgrade etc...

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Sent: 24 April 2002 17:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

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But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Chuck Bryant

I was wondering that myself; even after a few hours Event Viewer says
Memory
is Fragmented blah blah. I can safely? ignore that for anywhere from a
few
days to a few weeks, then OWA will stop working, then MAPI clients
outboxes
slowly fill up with half-sent things and mail delivery ceases.  When
this
happens I take a few minutes looking at Services - None have stopped,
and
Event logs, nothing obvious to me. I reboot and all is well again for a
few
days up to a few weeks.  I intend to order Win2K Server Resource Kit to
get
shutdown.exe, and schedule it for latenight Saturdays.  

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, 
 weekly for
 OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
 verifies that they do
 indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
 any service
 running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
 Windows 2000
 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found 
 next to nothing
 about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
 server I want to
 have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain 
 time. If anyone
 knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
 information.
 
 
 
 
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 1101 14th Street, NW
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Ken Cornetet

Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server weekly,
we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a month
or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably overkill, but
since the reboots are free (ie: users never notice), we go for twice
monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots, we
would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2 days. We've not
tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't needed:
please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots aren't required
if you have quality hardware and good admin practices. The boxes are HP
netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the servers unless
we fully understand and test first on separate test systems. The only
software on these boxes other than NT and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato
networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've found
that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




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New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Soysal, Serdar


Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying your
head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
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Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Soysal, Serdar

IMS and mailbox servers have been extremely stable in my experience.
However OWA5.5 does puke regularly under heavy load.  That is probably due
to the fact that the product was never designed to be used on a large scale.
Still, the fact remains that if you have a problem, you don't just cover it
up, but you keep working with the software vendors to fix the problem.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server weekly,
we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a month
or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably overkill, but
since the reboots are free (ie: users never notice), we go for twice
monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots, we
would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2 days. We've not
tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't needed:
please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots aren't required
if you have quality hardware and good admin practices. The boxes are HP
netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the servers unless
we fully understand and test first on separate test systems. The only
software on these boxes other than NT and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato
networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've found
that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




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New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
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Fax: 202-842-0991
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Woodruff, Michael

Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server weekly,
we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a month
or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably overkill, but
since the reboots are free (ie: users never notice), we go for twice
monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots, we
would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2 days. We've not
tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't needed:
please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots aren't required
if you have quality hardware and good admin practices. The boxes are HP
netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the servers unless
we fully understand and test first on separate test systems. The only
software on these boxes other than NT and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato
networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've found
that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Andrew Chan

Personally, I think the Legato Networker Client is not a good addition
on the box.  I bet you will experience less of the problem if you
uninstall it.  Of course, you then have to think of some other way of
backing up your Exchange.  H Decisions, decisions...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT  W2K) + CCNA

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:57 AM
Posted To: DiscussionGroup
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


IMS and mailbox servers have been extremely stable in my experience.
However OWA5.5 does puke regularly under heavy load.  That is probably
due to the fact that the product was never designed to be used on a
large scale. Still, the fact remains that if you have a problem, you
don't just cover it up, but you keep working with the software vendors
to fix the problem.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server
weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a
month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably
overkill, but since the reboots are free (ie: users never notice), we
go for twice monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots,
we would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2 days. We've
not tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't
needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots
aren't required if you have quality hardware and good admin practices.
The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC
disk arrays. Likewise, our administration is VERY conservative. We do
nothing to the servers unless we fully understand and test first on
separate test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT
and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've
found that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Daniel Chenault

Why? There's typically no need to do this. There is, however, a tool in the
Win2K resource kit (IIRC) that will do this. But, again, why?

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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




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New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
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Fax: 202-842-0991
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Baker, Jennifer

The Legato Networker Client is a fine addition to any *well managed*
Exchange server.  

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Personally, I think the Legato Networker Client is not a good addition
on the box.  I bet you will experience less of the problem if you
uninstall it.  Of course, you then have to think of some other way of
backing up your Exchange.  H Decisions, decisions...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT  W2K) + CCNA

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:57 AM
Posted To: DiscussionGroup
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


IMS and mailbox servers have been extremely stable in my experience.
However OWA5.5 does puke regularly under heavy load.  That is probably
due to the fact that the product was never designed to be used on a
large scale. Still, the fact remains that if you have a problem, you
don't just cover it up, but you keep working with the software vendors
to fix the problem.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server
weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a
month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably
overkill, but since the reboots are free (ie: users never notice), we
go for twice monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots,
we would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2 days. We've
not tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't
needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots
aren't required if you have quality hardware and good admin practices.
The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC
disk arrays. Likewise, our administration is VERY conservative. We do
nothing to the servers unless we fully understand and test first on
separate test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT
and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've
found that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.newisraelfund.org


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread William Lefkovics

Seriously?

What makes you so emphatic about that?

William

-Original Message-
From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


The Legato Networker Client is a fine addition to any *well managed*
Exchange server.  

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Personally, I think the Legato Networker Client is not a good addition
on the box.  I bet you will experience less of the problem if you
uninstall it.  Of course, you then have to think of some other way of
backing up your Exchange.  H Decisions, decisions...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT  W2K) + CCNA

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:57 AM
Posted To: DiscussionGroup
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


IMS and mailbox servers have been extremely stable in my experience.
However OWA5.5 does puke regularly under heavy load.  That is probably
due to the fact that the product was never designed to be used on a
large scale. Still, the fact remains that if you have a problem, you
don't just cover it up, but you keep working with the software vendors
to fix the problem.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server
weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a
month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably
overkill, but since the reboots are free (ie: users never notice), we
go for twice monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots,
we would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2 days. We've
not tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't
needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots
aren't required if you have quality hardware and good admin practices.
The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC
disk arrays. Likewise, our administration is VERY conservative. We do
nothing to the servers unless we fully understand and test first on
separate test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT
and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've
found that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




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New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Stephen Mynhier

He doesn't have much on his social calendars for Sundays

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
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New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
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Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run on
my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in over 1
year 4 months

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Mynhier
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
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Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Ken Cornetet

The fact that some people can smoke 3 packs of Marlboros a day and still
live to be 90 years old doesn't mean that cigarettes aren't dangerous.
Likewise, the fact that you (and others) can run problem-free computer
systems without rebooting doesn't mean there aren't bugs in the software. It
simply means that people have different computer environments. Different
users, different software, different networks, hell, maybe different gamma
rays - who knows?

The simple fact is that NT and Exchange (and other auxiliary software like
backup agents and remote-control) are not bug-free, nor will they ever be.
Some bugs, when tickled, create subtle corruption (overwriting a random
memory location, locking a resource, whatever). Eventually, some vital organ
is hit and the system gets sick...

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server weekly,
we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a month
or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably overkill, but
since the reboots are free (ie: users never notice), we go for twice
monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots, we
would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2 days. We've not
tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't needed:
please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots aren't required
if you have quality hardware and good admin practices. The boxes are HP
netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the servers unless
we fully understand and test first on separate test systems. The only
software on these boxes other than NT and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato
networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've found
that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Stephen Mynhier

Then run SendMail


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:22 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run on
my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in over 1
year 4 months

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Mynhier
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
James Cornett

Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Ah sendmail sucks. No public folders. If I was to run a mail server on
Linux it would be qmail


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Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Then run SendMail


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:22 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run on
my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in over 1
year 4 months

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Mynhier
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
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Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Roger Seielstad

The 2 dozen Exchange boxes I have around here seem to not have a problem
with memory management. What are you doing wrong on yours?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:24 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
 our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
 for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
 what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
 verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
 complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
 reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
 Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
 have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
 trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
 reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
 knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
 appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Roger Seielstad

But you're not looking to see what's causing the issue. Find the cuprit
through perfmon and fix that.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Chuck Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 I was wondering that myself; even after a few hours Event 
 Viewer says Memory is Fragmented blah blah. I can safely? 
 ignore that for anywhere from a few days to a few weeks, then 
 OWA will stop working, then MAPI clients outboxes slowly fill 
 up with half-sent things and mail delivery ceases.  When this 
 happens I take a few minutes looking at Services - None have 
 stopped, and Event logs, nothing obvious to me. I reboot and 
 all is well again for a few days up to a few weeks.  I intend 
 to order Win2K Server Resource Kit to get shutdown.exe, and 
 schedule it for latenight Saturdays.  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  But why are the reboots required?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to 
 reboot our MSX55 
  servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
  for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
  
  It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
  verifies that they do
  indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
  any service
  running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
  
  Sends email showing the results.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of
  Windows 2000
  Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found 
  next to nothing
  about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
  server I want to
  have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain 
  time. If anyone
  knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
  information.
  
  
  
  
  _
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  New Israel Fund
  1101 14th Street, NW
  Sixth Floor
  Washington, DC 20005
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Roger Seielstad

Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your stability. And no,
I'm not joking. I've never once seen a system that was more stable with that
installed than without it.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA 
 server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
 
 Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking 
 out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
 monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
 free (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
 
 Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to 
 the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
 when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
 never go down cleanly.
 
 In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2 
 days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.
 
 For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots 
 aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
 me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
 and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
 RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
 our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
 servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
 test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
 and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
 
 I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not 
 bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
 obscure bugs obscure.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
 our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
 for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
 what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
 verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
 complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
 reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
 Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
 have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
 trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
 reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
 knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
 appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett 
  
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
 Sixth Floor
 Washington, DC 20005
 Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
 Fax: 202-842-0991
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Oh I don't think it's exchange's fault. I think it's other programs
included with windows, IIS ect ect


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Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


The 2 dozen Exchange boxes I have around here seem to not have a problem
with memory management. What are you doing wrong on yours?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:24 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot
 our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
 for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
 what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
 verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
 complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
 reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of
 Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
 have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
 trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
 reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
 knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
 appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
 Sixth Floor
 Washington, DC 20005
 Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
 Fax: 202-842-0991
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.newisraelfund.org
 
 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Roger Seielstad

And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

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 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the 
 software I run on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the 
 need to reboot it in over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Stephen Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
 our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
 for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
 what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
 verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
 complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
 reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
 Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
 have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
 trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
 reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
 knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
 appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
 Sixth Floor
 Washington, DC 20005
 Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
 Fax: 202-842-0991
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Roger Seielstad

Which still doesn't do half what Exchange does.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:38 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Ah sendmail sucks. No public folders. If I was to run a mail 
 server on Linux it would be qmail
 
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Stephen Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Then run SendMail
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:22 PM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the 
 software I run on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the 
 need to reboot it in over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Stephen Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
 our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
 for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
 what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
 verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
 complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
 reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
 Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
 have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
 trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
 reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
 knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
 appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
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 Fax: 202-842-0991
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread King, John

You mean like BSOD..?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Which still doesn't do half what Exchange does.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:38 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Ah sendmail sucks. No public folders. If I was to run a mail 
 server on Linux it would be qmail
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Stephen Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Then run SendMail
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:22 PM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the 
 software I run on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the 
 need to reboot it in over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Stephen Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
 our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
 for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
 what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
 verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
 complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
 reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
 Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
 have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
 trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
 reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
 knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
 appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
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 Washington, DC 20005
 Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
 Fax: 202-842-0991
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is
216.210.178.29 If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it
but don't do anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get
through.good luck cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and
collaboration services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a
few hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the
 software I run on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the 
 need to reboot it in over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Stephen Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot
 our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
 for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
 what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
 verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
 complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
 reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of
 Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
 have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
 trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
 reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
 knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
 appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
 Sixth Floor
 Washington, DC 20005
 Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
 Fax: 202-842-0991
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.newisraelfund.org
 
 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Stephen Mynhier

Exchange 5.5 has NEVER blue screened a box

-Original Message-
From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:05 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


You mean like BSOD..?

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Which still doesn't do half what Exchange does.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:38 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Ah sendmail sucks. No public folders. If I was to run a mail
 server on Linux it would be qmail
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Stephen Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Then run SendMail
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:22 PM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the
 software I run on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the 
 need to reboot it in over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Stephen Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot
 our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
 for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
 what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
 verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
 complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
 reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of
 Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
 have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
 trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
 reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
 knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
 appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
 Sixth Floor
 Washington, DC 20005
 Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
 Fax: 202-842-0991
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.newisraelfund.org
 
 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Andy David

Why am I not surprised.


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run
 on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
 over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
 Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
 for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that
 they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
 any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows
 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
 to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
 server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
 certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
 greatly appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
 Sixth Floor
 Washington, DC 20005
 Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
 Fax: 202-842-0991
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.newisraelfund.org
 
 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Muqeem Syed

I would agree with Soysal on this instead locate which application
is causing the memory leak... lots of times... guys.. I have worked on
SOlaris as well... so please no cursing on microsofft alone.. lots a
timess theres so many apps that cause memory leaks on solaris as well..
and the resolution was to be able to locate the app and fix the bugs on
it. 


-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 7:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying
your
head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I
want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If
anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
James Cornett

Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.newisraelfund.org


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread King, John

Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run 
 on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
 over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
 Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55 
 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
 for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
 they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
 any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 
 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
 to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
 server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
 certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
 greatly appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
 Sixth Floor
 Washington, DC 20005
 Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
 Fax: 202-842-0991
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.newisraelfund.org
 
 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Nmap? What's that?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is
216.210.178.29 If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it
but don't do anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get
through.good luck cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and
collaboration services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a
few hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run
 on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
 over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
 Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
 for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that
 they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
 any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows
 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
 to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail

 server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
 certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
 greatly appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
 Sixth Floor
 Washington, DC 20005
 Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
 Fax: 202-842-0991
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

And this isn't the same Linux box. Same config though. This one runs my
website. I had to take it down cause I added more Ram in it. I'm not
giving out the IP to my work one.
-Chris

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is
216.210.178.29 If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it
but don't do anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get
through.good luck cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and
collaboration services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a
few hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run
 on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
 over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
 Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
 for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that
 they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
 any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows
 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
 to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail

 server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
 certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
 greatly appreciate the information.
 
 
 
 
 _
 James Cornett
 
 Network Administrator
 New Israel Fund
 1101 14th Street, NW
 Sixth Floor
 Washington, DC 20005
 Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
 Fax: 202-842-0991
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.newisraelfund.org
 
 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread King, John

Actually you could patch a running Linux kernel, well kind of..  If you
follow the virtual Linux server stuff.  It gets confusing, but you can run
many 'virtual' servers on top of a real server.  Each virtual server, is
considered it's own node..
http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/

Patching a Linux kernel and not rebooting, is like saying that you can apply
Win2k SP2 and not reboot.

Besides if he uses IPtables, TCPwrappers, PortSentry to block TCP/IP/UDP
ports that arn't being used, then how do you exploit kernel level security
holes..?

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Seeing as its impossible to patch a running kernel without rebooting a Linux
box, not to mention that you're running Redhat 7.2, which hasn't been
available for 16 months, I'd like to know how you've not rebooted during
that time. Or are all those kernel holes still there.

Now - the exchange servers, which average a few thousand messages an hour,
moderate use, have been up 130 days since restarting, and that was the
result of system level updates.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:03 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 
 216.210.178.29 If you can get in, then change the front page 
 to prove it but don't do anything destructive. I'll give you 
 $50 if you get through.good luck cause your going to need it
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Roger Seielstad
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging 
 and collaboration services off your Linux box?
 
 And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there 
 have been a few hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 
 16 months...
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the 
 software I run 
  on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
  over 1 year 4 months
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
  Mynhier
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
  Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
  Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  But why are the reboots required?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to 
 reboot our MSX55 
  servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
  for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
  
  It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
  they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it 
 verifies that 
  any service running at the time of reboot is running after 
 the reboot.
  
  Sends email showing the results.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
  
  
  Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 
  2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have 
 found next 
  to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is 
 on our Mail 
  server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday 
 night at a 
  certain time. If anyone knows how to do

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 11:58am, Roger Seielstad wrote:
 And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
 hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

  Can we keep the FUD off this list?  This is patently false.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 12:42pm, Roger Seielstad wrote:
 ... not to mention that you're running Redhat 7.2, which hasn't been
 available for 16 months ...

  You can upgrade the OS (sans the kernel) without rebooting Linux.

  (You cannot even upgrade the *web browser* without rebooting Windows.)

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Thank's for that link. It's a hell of a lot better then the one I was
using


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


www.insecure.org/nmap

Nmap is the best port scanner, around..
well, at least for the 7337...

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap? What's that?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is
216.210.178.29 If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it
but don't do anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get
through.good luck cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and
collaboration services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a
few hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run 
 on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
 over 1 year 4 months
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
 Mynhier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
 Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 But why are the reboots required?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55

 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
 for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
 
 It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
 they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
 any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
 
 Sends email showing the results.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
 
 
 Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 
 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
 to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail

 server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
 certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
 greatly appreciate the information

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Jim Helfer


  You can upgrade the OS (sans the kernel) without rebooting Linux.

  (You cannot even upgrade the *web browser* without rebooting Windows.)


  You are wrong.  A reboot won't upgrade the web browser on Windows. Rather,
you muist install, reboot and Log in a 2nd time *as an administrator* to
upgrade a web browser.  failure to do this disables the machine. 

  Jim Who let down one of the good users last weekend because of that
nonsense Helfer

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread William Lefkovics

That's what I wanted, yes.


-Original Message-
From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


The suite works.  I've never had to nor wanted to change solutions.  What do
you want a resume?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Seriously?

What makes you so emphatic about that?

William

-Original Message-
From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


The Legato Networker Client is a fine addition to any *well managed*
Exchange server.  

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Personally, I think the Legato Networker Client is not a good addition
on the box.  I bet you will experience less of the problem if you
uninstall it.  Of course, you then have to think of some other way of
backing up your Exchange.  H Decisions, decisions...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT  W2K) + CCNA

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:57 AM
Posted To: DiscussionGroup
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


IMS and mailbox servers have been extremely stable in my experience.
However OWA5.5 does puke regularly under heavy load.  That is probably
due to the fact that the product was never designed to be used on a
large scale. Still, the fact remains that if you have a problem, you
don't just cover it up, but you keep working with the software vendors
to fix the problem.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server
weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a
month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably
overkill, but since the reboots are free (ie: users never notice), we
go for twice monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots,
we would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2 days. We've
not tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't
needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots
aren't required if you have quality hardware and good admin practices.
The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC
disk arrays. Likewise, our administration is VERY conservative. We do
nothing to the servers unless we fully understand and test first on
separate test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT
and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've
found that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Ken Cornetet

Fix it how? Who's the vendor that I can go to and say fix it!? Microsoft?
Legato?

Even if I remove Legato and PCAnywhere from my servers so that it is
Microsoft only, do you think Microsoft is going to send engineers out here
to track down why our IS does not shut down cleanly after the server has
been running for months?

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Yeah, and then you fix it.

-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


The fact that some people can smoke 3 packs of Marlboros a day and still
live to be 90 years old doesn't mean that cigarettes aren't dangerous.
Likewise, the fact that you (and others) can run problem-free computer
systems without rebooting doesn't mean there aren't bugs in the software. It
simply means that people have different computer environments. Different
users, different software, different networks, hell, maybe different gamma
rays - who knows?

The simple fact is that NT and Exchange (and other auxiliary software like
backup agents and remote-control) are not bug-free, nor will they ever be.
Some bugs, when tickled, create subtle corruption (overwriting a random
memory location, locking a resource, whatever). Eventually, some vital organ
is hit and the system gets sick...

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server weekly,
we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a month
or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably overkill, but
since the reboots are free (ie: users never notice), we go for twice
monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots, we
would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5  MSX SP2 days. We've not
tried reducing them since we went to 6a  SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't needed:
please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots aren't required
if you have quality hardware and good admin practices. The boxes are HP
netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the servers unless
we fully understand and test first on separate test systems. The only
software on these boxes other than NT and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato
networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've found
that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




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James Cornett  
Network Administrator
New Israel

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