[expert] How might I get ACPI to work with mdk9.1?
Hi-- I've read through the mailing lists and searched for two days now for a solution to my laptops power management. I went into lilo.conf and set acpi=yes and rebooted, but I'm not quite sure what to do from here. Do I need to apply the patch found on Sourceforge or was bamboo's kernel already patched? Any help _very_very_ appreciated! Regards, Matt Osborne Electrical/Computer Engineering Christian Brothers University Memphis, Tennessee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] create fat32 file system
Hi, when i type mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1 it says ..Attempting to create too large file system. Why? /dev/hdb1 is 20GB large. Thanks David Hlacik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Extracting a URL from a Java applet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 17 June 2003 12:12 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The scenario is that I would like to pass a url to mplayer from a Javascript applet, so I can play a WMA soundstream. Manually; like with copy and paste, straight to the command line. However it's like pulling eyeteeth to get a source URL out of a java applet. Does anybody have a way to do this? Seems like Miark posted a similar solution a while back using Lynx, but I can't remember if that was relevant or not. Could you use a sniffer to watch the packets and get the source that way? Try running ethereal or, for some simplicity, etherape. I have never really tracked a java applet or script before so I am not sure that this would be useful. praedor - -- The First Amendment rests on the assumption that the widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is essential to the welfare of the public. - --Justice Hugo Black GnuPG fingerprint: D170 2A02 B426 6AA0 5E68 3EDC 68AA FDB0 961E 4F18 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+7vXuaKr9sJYeTxgRAreRAJ0RWg/Tio4jZObF7JrspSE7xURV/ACguvgm 9CpREq9GcTPz2+QrVw0u+nc= =jtTn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How might I get ACPI to work with mdk9.1?
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 02:51 am, Matt Osborne wrote: Hi-- I've read through the mailing lists and searched for two days now for a solution to my laptops power management. I went into lilo.conf and set acpi=yes and rebooted, but I'm not quite sure what to do from here. Do I need to apply the patch found on Sourceforge or was bamboo's kernel already patched? Any help _very_very_ appreciated! It's already in there. You shouls just have to configure the userspace tools. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] create fat32 file system
if i remember correctly, fat32 has a 4gb limitation --- Original Message --- From: David Hlacik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] create fat32 file system Hi, when i type mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1 it says ..Attempting to create too large file system. Why? /dev/hdb1 is 20GB large. Thanks David Hlacik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] scanning and faxing
Hello all. I'm trying to find a scan and fax solution so I can dump Windoze for good! The hardware is fine, sane is installed and working. I'd like to be able to use something like Staroffice and scan the document in then fax it from there. The staroffice help file explains a way to set this up, but I can't get their idea to fly. So, anything you can offer would be great. Aim me in the right direction, whatever. Thanks, -- Jonathan Dlouhy Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:20:55 AM =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Energizer Bunny arrested - charged with battery. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.490 / Virus Database: 289 - Release Date: 6/16/2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] scanning and faxing
Hello all. I'm trying to scan a document and then fax it. My scanner and fax setup work fine individually, so it's not a hardware problem. I mainly tried using Staroffice/openoffice to set this up, but no go. There's supposed to be a way to set this up in Staroffice according to the help file but I can't get it to fly. Any help would be great, aim me in the right direction or whatever. Thanks, Jon -- Jonathan Dlouhy Monday, June 16, 2003 06:43 PM I.R.S.: We've got what it takes to take what you've got! Registered Linux user #264482 Powered by Mandrake 9.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How might I get ACPI to work with mdk9.1?
Il mar, 2003-06-17 alle 08:51, Matt Osborne ha scritto: Hi-- I've read through the mailing lists and searched for two days now for a solution to my laptops power management. I went into lilo.conf and set acpi=yes and rebooted, but I'm not quite sure what to do from here. Do I need to apply the patch found on Sourceforge or was bamboo's kernel already patched? Any help _very_very_ appreciated! I know your feeling... I had the same problem :) Well, try to set acpi=on instead of acpi=yes first. You also have to install 2 mandrake packets is you did not do so, they are: acpi-0.6-5mdk acipid-1.0.1-3mdk Reboot(to append the right acpi=on string on the kernel) once you did so you try ]# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state and it should give something like this present: yes capacity state: ok charging state: discharging present rate:unknown remaining capacity: 4011 mAh present voltage: 9600 mV Here you can reamaining capacity in milliampere another useful command is ]#acpi -V which gives you other informations: Thermal 1: ok, 70.0 degrees C AC Adapter 1: off-line Once acpi is up and running you could use Klaptop to have an userfrienly interface for your battery monitoring. Good luck! I have an Acer Aspire 1300XC and what I tould you above works for my laptop... give a try :) Cesare Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] create fat32 file system
Not anymore it may have had to begin with but I am typing this on a 40gb fat32 partition [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i remember correctly, fat32 has a 4gb limitation --- Original Message --- From: David Hlacik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] create fat32 file system Hi, when i type mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1 it says ..Attempting to create too large file system. Why? /dev/hdb1 is 20GB large. Thanks David Hlacik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Timothy R. Brown Webmaster The Daily Star 102 Chestnut St. Oneonta, NY 13820 Phone: (607)441-7242 Fax: (607)432-5847 - http://www.thedailystar.com http://www.coopercrier.com http://www.thecollegianonline.com http://www.cityofthehills.com http://www.theheartlandofnewyork.com - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Extracting a URL from a Java applet
My solution for normal HTML was to use: lynx --dump http://url-here.com which would spit out the URL yer looking for. I'm not sure about Java applets, though. Miark On 17 Jun 2003 01:12:12 -0400 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The scenario is that I would like to pass a url to mplayer from a Javascript applet, so I can play a WMA soundstream. Manually; like with copy and paste, straight to the command line. However it's like pulling eyeteeth to get a source URL out of a java applet. Does anybody have a way to do this? Seems like Miark posted a similar solution a while back using Lynx, but I can't remember if that was relevant or not. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mailing List mis-management?
On 16 Jun 2003 20:18:23 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 12:45, Pierre Fortin wrote: Anne, This is an *ancient* problem... I pointed it out about 2 years ago IIRC-- when there were all sorts of other mail issues... it wasn't fixed then and probably won't be fixed now... the solution is simple -- don't cross post... send 2 messages... Pierre, I wonder if this bug isn't intentional ... by taking the first address in a cross posted e-mail only, it's a great way to prevent cross posts and spam related cross posts. ... James How does that old saying go...? Something about not attributing foresight to an unexpected [side-]effect... If this was intentional, then that intention missed the mark of reducing traffic by not ignoring the extra addresses and simply using the first one N times... For historical perspective, see below for a discussion on my analysis (sent Dec 19,2000 -- 2 1/2 years ago...) about the list problems... Re-reading that old post, I have to wonder if those who don't see their posts are actually hitting a possible fix for Cause 3a... i.e., do those posts contain the list name 2+ times in the To: field? I suppose it's true that history repeats... On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:14:54 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Earlier today I sent a post to the newbie list and the expert list, saying that we should get started on a hardward compatibility list on the TWiki site. Cross-posted, you understand (not a thing I normally do, but it seemed justified at the time). I received my two copies, which my filters put both into the newbie folder - or so I thought. However, Eric then mailed me about this. You may remember that he has brought up this subject before. I think that it was generally thought that he was mistaken (I admit I thought so too), but when he raised the question I checked the full headers for the posts. *Both* of them said Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had thought it strange that no-one from the expert list had answered, but it seems Eric is right - it never got there. An hour or two later, Greg posted to the newbie list that he had started the page. I forwarded his post to the expert list, for information. That was perhaps 5 hours ago. I has not shown up. We seem to have serious problems here. Anne [There may be better data from the archives; but this was the first message I found in mine...] - From Dec 19,2000 Rusty, Since you have the most complete set of questions... :^) Rusty Carruth wrote: Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have analyzed just over 250 messages from Cooker and Expert lists. Of those, there were 20 duplicated and 3 triplicated messages. I'm impressed! I quit after 2 or 4 ;-) I just finally got tired to seeing all the why am I getting duplicates...? posts; asking the same question over and over does not solve the problem... you gotta dig deep[er]... : From my short sampling, these are the causes of message replication I came up with... Did you happen to attach a count to each of these causes? That might be very enlightening. I didn't feel the count mattered 'cuz a computer can make the same mistake forever without complaining; fix the cause and it'll behave regardless of counts... CAUSE 1: user 500@yavin.mandrax.org: I am of the opinion that user 500 is the 'expert list' expander/forwarder/whatever_ you_want_to_call_it. Yes; just pointing out that it was at the core of the issues. CAUSE 2a: sender is using M$ Outlook Express configured to send an Envelope-To: header. ... CAUSE 2b: sender is using Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) with aReply-To: header. See cause 2a for solution. But aren't these just triggers to the problem in user 500? Unless I've missed something, it seems that the right solution is to fix whatever user 500 is doing... Correct; though if we can reduce the problems in the meantime... However, the following ones require a smarter set of rules... CAUSE 3a: sending to more than one addressee. Examples: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], self, [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], self, [EMAIL PROTECTED] So [EMAIL PROTECTED] == [EMAIL PROTECTED], eh? Wow, learn something new every day ;-) Does the 'self' entry seem to have anything to do with it? self was just to indicate that the sender was mailing a copy back to themselves to push a copy of their posts through their filters for filing. CAUSE 3b: sending to both To: and Cc: This is where my post got caught... though in my case, I sent: To: cooker... Cc: expert... Which means that when you think you are cross-posting, the list server simply sends both copies to the To: list; I missed this variation in my original post. CAUSE 3c: sending with BCC: which is not detectable from the messages we get.
[expert] I Found my Martians
Well, it looks like I found the device that was sending out the martians headers. It is the Netgear print server I picked up el cheapo at CompUSA. It sets up an smb share for my HP1100A so I don't require that a particular machine is on in order to use it. I discovered this by unplugging the network cable for awhile and seeing the martian headers messages stop hitting my logs. Now to figure out how to either get my machine to ignore them, or get the print server to stop sending them. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I Found my Martians
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, it looks like I found the device that was sending out the martians headers. It is the Netgear print server I picked up el cheapo at CompUSA. It sets up an smb share for my HP1100A so I don't require that a particular machine is on in order to use it. I discovered this by unplugging the network cable for awhile and seeing the martian headers messages stop hitting my logs. Now to figure out how to either get my machine to ignore them, or get the print server to stop sending them. echo enable_log_strange_packets(no) /etc/security/msec/level.local /etc/cron.hourly/msec Mark. - -- Mark Watts Senior Systems Engineer QinetiQ TIM St Andrews Road, Malvern GPG Public Key ID: 455420ED -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+7xhUBn4EFUVUIO0RAqlqAJ9wIWgcxS4vp+DODuojUNP1Ni4fNQCdFziF SjTwyRwHZxJ9trSNe4LIydQ= =GxJH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mailing List mis-management?
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 1:48 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: On 16 Jun 2003 20:18:23 -0700 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 12:45, Pierre Fortin wrote: How does that old saying go...? Something about not attributing foresight to an unexpected [side-]effect... If this was intentional, then that intention missed the mark of reducing traffic by not ignoring the extra addresses and simply using the first one N times... For historical perspective, see below for a discussion on my analysis (sent Dec 19,2000 -- 2 1/2 years ago...) about the list problems... It does make interesting reading. Re-reading that old post, I have to wonder if those who don't see their posts are actually hitting a possible fix for Cause 3a... i.e., do those posts contain the list name 2+ times in the To: field? For the record, this was mine: To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CAUSE 1: user 500@yavin.mandrax.org: I am of the opinion that user 500 is the 'expert list' expander/forwarder/whatever_ you_want_to_call_it. Yes; just pointing out that it was at the core of the issues. Received: by yavin.mandrax.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 680C480393; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:17:54 -0700 (PDT) CAUSE 2a: sender is using M$ Outlook Express configured to send an Envelope-To: header. ... Nope CAUSE 2b: sender is using Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) with aReply-To: header. See cause 2a for solution. Nope But aren't these just triggers to the problem in user 500? Unless I've missed something, it seems that the right solution is to fix whatever user 500 is doing... Correct; though if we can reduce the problems in the meantime... However, the following ones require a smarter set of rules... CAUSE 3a: sending to more than one addressee. Examples: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], self, [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], self, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two addresses, but not the same, newbie and expert lists So [EMAIL PROTECTED] == [EMAIL PROTECTED], eh? Wow, learn something new every day ;-) Does the 'self' entry seem to have anything to do with it? self was just to indicate that the sender was mailing a copy back to themselves to push a copy of their posts through their filters for filing. CAUSE 3b: sending to both To: and Cc: This is where my post got caught... though in my case, I sent: To: cooker... Cc: expert... Which means that when you think you are cross-posting, the list server simply sends both copies to the To: list; I missed this variation in my original post. This seems to be acting the same way. CAUSE 3c: sending with BCC: which is not detectable from the messages we get. Actually, I have another theory. Nope Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this RSN (real soon now)... Yes, well, he did say 'hopefully' Little has change, heh? Well, thanks for the info. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
Hi All, The list I am refering to is for tru64 Unix ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IMHO, that list serves much better purpose than this one. Searching their archives, its almost 100% hit on subjects that have been discussed before. And, better yet, one always goes for the SUMMARY/Resolution. Isnt that what we all want? Or is this a Gossip corner?? For a Gossip corner, we are OKbut for true learning and solving of problems, we need solutions! While there might be 10 replies to one posting, only one might be really relevant, the rest personal emotions and such. Wouldn't you rather see a summary that only includes the one entry that correctly resolved the problem? I would. So instead of reading 25 back-and-forth entries to find one solution, i would rather have one post --then--its solution. Again, its just an idea Different folks, Different Strokes Richard --- Brian V Bonini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 21:39, charlie wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:23 am, Tru64 User had this to contribute :- Let me know what you guys think. _Thanks Richard Mollel Sort of defeats the purpose of the list. It is the think tank element of everyone throwing something in that makes this list a valuable learning experience IMHO. I wonder how long the list that uses the rules you mention has been running? It might also be relevant to know what it is dealing with I suppose? I certainly can't identify such an environment as allowing maximum discovery. Not quite 2 cents worth I know. Charlie. I agree and add that this is hardly a busy list that borders on being too much too handle. You can always hit delete on the topics your not interested in. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] create fat32 file system
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i remember correctly, fat32 has a 4gb limitation no it is not true. David Hlacik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert](2) Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
Additional Notes: The list I am talking about has been in existence long before Linux mandrake was popular. Before HPQ bought Compaq, and b4 Compaq bought DEC. DEC Alpha -Tru64 Unix List. With our list, questions are posted as long as the problem exists. When problem is solved, everyone is quiet. So one never knows if the problem was resolved or not. And if resolved, which of the 10+ responses solved the issue? That is always a mistery. As a result, same question will come up again perhaps two days down the road from a different user! Sample entry of the usefulness of posting questions then SUMMARY only, everything else being offline. * SAMPLE ENTRY *** Thanks to all those who replied - all your advice was helpful! The problem turned out to be that the dsf database is not backwards compatible between releases or patchkits. One of the patches in the 5.1B patch kit 2 introduced an incompatibility with the previous version. I solved the problem by running (still in single user mode): # dn_setup -init # dsfmgr -K Then I rebooted and the OS installation concluded successfully. Dr Blinn also suggested to execute set bootdef_dev from the SRM console before reinstalling - this supposedly also clears the problem before a fresh installation. Unfortunately I have not verified that yet myself, but it is apparently also mentioned in connection with the guilty patch. Lesson learned - next time I shall be more careful to read up on the patches and not just go ahead installing all of them. Fortunately this was just a test system... Kind regards, Michael === original mail follows === Hi managers, I have a strange problem installing Tru64 5.1B on a DS-10. I am in the process of adapting an installation procedure based on the clone installation feature to the version 5.1B, and so far I had performed MANY such installations of 5.1B on this particular machine as well as others. However, yesterday I downloaded the aggregate patch kit 0002 for 5.1B (which was released on 14 May 2003), and installed it on that particular machine (ALL patches). Things were apparently fine - the patches installed OK and the machine rebooted OK. Then later shut it down to begin a fresh installation for testing. The installation went through the post-OS-install configuration stage, and the subsequent reboot. Then it failed to single user mode with the following messages while trying to mount the filesystems (I type them below, they may not be 100% exact but maybe it is sufficient for someone to identify the cause): (for information, a is root partition, g is /usr, d is /usr/users, e is private /locrec partition) **End of Sample Entry*** Here is an example Hi All, The list I am refering to is for tru64 Unix ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IMHO, that list serves much better purpose than this one. Searching their archives, its almost 100% hit on subjects that have been discussed before. And, better yet, one always goes for the SUMMARY/Resolution. Isnt that what we all want? Or is this a Gossip corner?? For a Gossip corner, we are OKbut for true learning and solving of problems, we need solutions! While there might be 10 replies to one posting, only one might be really relevant, the rest personal emotions and such. Wouldn't you rather see a summary that only includes the one entry that correctly resolved the problem? I would. So instead of reading 25 back-and-forth entries to find one solution, i would rather have one post --then--its solution. Again, its just an idea Different folks, Different Strokes Richard --- Brian V Bonini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 21:39, charlie wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:23 am, Tru64 User had this to contribute :- Let me know what you guys think. _Thanks Richard Mollel Sort of defeats the purpose of the list. It is the think tank element of everyone throwing something in that makes this list a valuable learning experience IMHO. I wonder how long the list that uses the rules you mention has been running? It might also be relevant to know what it is dealing with I suppose? I certainly can't identify such an environment as allowing maximum discovery. Not quite 2 cents worth I know. Charlie. I agree and add that this is hardly a busy list that borders on being too much too handle. You can always hit delete on the topics your not interested in. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert](2) Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
Additional Notes: The list I am talking about has been in existence long before Linux mandrake was popular. Before HPQ bought Compaq, and b4 Compaq bought DEC. DEC Alpha -Tru64 Unix List. With our list, questions are posted as long as the problem exists. When problem is solved, everyone is quiet. So one never knows if the problem was resolved or not. And if resolved, which of the 10+ responses solved the issue? That is always a mistery. As a result, same question will come up again perhaps two days down the road from a different user! Sample entry of the usefulness of posting questions then SUMMARY only, everything else being offline. * SAMPLE ENTRY *** Thanks to all those who replied - all your advice was helpful! The problem turned out to be that the dsf database is not backwards compatible between releases or patchkits. One of the patches in the 5.1B patch kit 2 introduced an incompatibility with the previous version. I solved the problem by running (still in single user mode): # dn_setup -init # dsfmgr -K Then I rebooted and the OS installation concluded successfully. Dr Blinn also suggested to execute set bootdef_dev from the SRM console before reinstalling - this supposedly also clears the problem before a fresh installation. Unfortunately I have not verified that yet myself, but it is apparently also mentioned in connection with the guilty patch. Lesson learned - next time I shall be more careful to read up on the patches and not just go ahead installing all of them. Fortunately this was just a test system... Kind regards, Michael === original mail follows === Hi managers, I have a strange problem installing Tru64 5.1B on a DS-10. I am in the process of adapting an installation procedure based on the clone installation feature to the version 5.1B, and so far I had performed MANY such installations of 5.1B on this particular machine as well as others. However, yesterday I downloaded the aggregate patch kit 0002 for 5.1B (which was released on 14 May 2003), and installed it on that particular machine (ALL patches). Things were apparently fine - the patches installed OK and the machine rebooted OK. Then later shut it down to begin a fresh installation for testing. The installation went through the post-OS-install configuration stage, and the subsequent reboot. Then it failed to single user mode with the following messages while trying to mount the filesystems (I type them below, they may not be 100% exact but maybe it is sufficient for someone to identify the cause): (for information, a is root partition, g is /usr, d is /usr/users, e is private /locrec partition) **End of Sample Entry*** Here is an example Hi All, The list I am refering to is for tru64 Unix ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IMHO, that list serves much better purpose than this one. Searching their archives, its almost 100% hit on subjects that have been discussed before. And, better yet, one always goes for the SUMMARY/Resolution. Isnt that what we all want? Or is this a Gossip corner?? For a Gossip corner, we are OKbut for true learning and solving of problems, we need solutions! While there might be 10 replies to one posting, only one might be really relevant, the rest personal emotions and such. Wouldn't you rather see a summary that only includes the one entry that correctly resolved the problem? I would. So instead of reading 25 back-and-forth entries to find one solution, i would rather have one post --then--its solution. Again, its just an idea Different folks, Different Strokes Richard --- Brian V Bonini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 21:39, charlie wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:23 am, Tru64 User had this to contribute :- Let me know what you guys think. _Thanks Richard Mollel Sort of defeats the purpose of the list. It is the think tank element of everyone throwing something in that makes this list a valuable learning experience IMHO. I wonder how long the list that uses the rules you mention has been running? It might also be relevant to know what it is dealing with I suppose? I certainly can't identify such an environment as allowing maximum discovery. Not quite 2 cents worth I know. Charlie. I agree and add that this is hardly a busy list that borders on being too much too handle. You can always hit delete on the topics your not interested in. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert](2) Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
Additional Notes: The list I am talking about has been in existence long before Linux mandrake was popular. Before HPQ bought Compaq, and b4 Compaq bought DEC. DEC Alpha -Tru64 Unix List. With our list, questions are posted as long as the problem exists. When problem is solved, everyone is quiet. So one never knows if the problem was resolved or not. And if resolved, which of the 10+ responses solved the issue? That is always a mistery. As a result, same question will come up again perhaps two days down the road from a different user! Sample entry of the usefulness of posting questions then SUMMARY only, everything else being offline. * SAMPLE ENTRY *** Thanks to all those who replied - all your advice was helpful! The problem turned out to be that the dsf database is not backwards compatible between releases or patchkits. One of the patches in the 5.1B patch kit 2 introduced an incompatibility with the previous version. I solved the problem by running (still in single user mode): # dn_setup -init # dsfmgr -K Then I rebooted and the OS installation concluded successfully. Dr Blinn also suggested to execute set bootdef_dev from the SRM console before reinstalling - this supposedly also clears the problem before a fresh installation. Unfortunately I have not verified that yet myself, but it is apparently also mentioned in connection with the guilty patch. Lesson learned - next time I shall be more careful to read up on the patches and not just go ahead installing all of them. Fortunately this was just a test system... Kind regards, Michael === original mail follows === Hi managers, I have a strange problem installing Tru64 5.1B on a DS-10. I am in the process of adapting an installation procedure based on the clone installation feature to the version 5.1B, and so far I had performed MANY such installations of 5.1B on this particular machine as well as others. However, yesterday I downloaded the aggregate patch kit 0002 for 5.1B (which was released on 14 May 2003), and installed it on that particular machine (ALL patches). Things were apparently fine - the patches installed OK and the machine rebooted OK. Then later shut it down to begin a fresh installation for testing. The installation went through the post-OS-install configuration stage, and the subsequent reboot. Then it failed to single user mode with the following messages while trying to mount the filesystems (I type them below, they may not be 100% exact but maybe it is sufficient for someone to identify the cause): (for information, a is root partition, g is /usr, d is /usr/users, e is private /locrec partition) **End of Sample Entry*** Here is an example Hi All, The list I am refering to is for tru64 Unix ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IMHO, that list serves much better purpose than this one. Searching their archives, its almost 100% hit on subjects that have been discussed before. And, better yet, one always goes for the SUMMARY/Resolution. Isnt that what we all want? Or is this a Gossip corner?? For a Gossip corner, we are OKbut for true learning and solving of problems, we need solutions! While there might be 10 replies to one posting, only one might be really relevant, the rest personal emotions and such. Wouldn't you rather see a summary that only includes the one entry that correctly resolved the problem? I would. So instead of reading 25 back-and-forth entries to find one solution, i would rather have one post --then--its solution. Again, its just an idea Different folks, Different Strokes Richard --- Brian V Bonini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 21:39, charlie wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:23 am, Tru64 User had this to contribute :- Let me know what you guys think. _Thanks Richard Mollel Sort of defeats the purpose of the list. It is the think tank element of everyone throwing something in that makes this list a valuable learning experience IMHO. I wonder how long the list that uses the rules you mention has been running? It might also be relevant to know what it is dealing with I suppose? I certainly can't identify such an environment as allowing maximum discovery. Not quite 2 cents worth I know. Charlie. I agree and add that this is hardly a busy list that borders on being too much too handle. You can always hit delete on the topics your not interested in. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert](2) Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
Additional Notes: The list I am talking about has been in existence long before Linux mandrake was popular. Before HPQ bought Compaq, and b4 Compaq bought DEC. DEC Alpha -Tru64 Unix List. With our list, questions are posted as long as the problem exists. When problem is solved, everyone is quiet. So one never knows if the problem was resolved or not. And if resolved, which of the 10+ responses solved the issue? That is always a mistery. As a result, same question will come up again perhaps two days down the road from a different user! Sample entry of the usefulness of posting questions then SUMMARY only, everything else being offline. * SAMPLE ENTRY *** Thanks to all those who replied - all your advice was helpful! The problem turned out to be that the dsf database is not backwards compatible between releases or patchkits. One of the patches in the 5.1B patch kit 2 introduced an incompatibility with the previous version. I solved the problem by running (still in single user mode): # dn_setup -init # dsfmgr -K Then I rebooted and the OS installation concluded successfully. Dr Blinn also suggested to execute set bootdef_dev from the SRM console before reinstalling - this supposedly also clears the problem before a fresh installation. Unfortunately I have not verified that yet myself, but it is apparently also mentioned in connection with the guilty patch. Lesson learned - next time I shall be more careful to read up on the patches and not just go ahead installing all of them. Fortunately this was just a test system... Kind regards, Michael === original mail follows === Hi managers, I have a strange problem installing Tru64 5.1B on a DS-10. I am in the process of adapting an installation procedure based on the clone installation feature to the version 5.1B, and so far I had performed MANY such installations of 5.1B on this particular machine as well as others. However, yesterday I downloaded the aggregate patch kit 0002 for 5.1B (which was released on 14 May 2003), and installed it on that particular machine (ALL patches). Things were apparently fine - the patches installed OK and the machine rebooted OK. Then later shut it down to begin a fresh installation for testing. The installation went through the post-OS-install configuration stage, and the subsequent reboot. Then it failed to single user mode with the following messages while trying to mount the filesystems (I type them below, they may not be 100% exact but maybe it is sufficient for someone to identify the cause): (for information, a is root partition, g is /usr, d is /usr/users, e is private /locrec partition) **End of Sample Entry*** Here is an example Hi All, The list I am refering to is for tru64 Unix ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IMHO, that list serves much better purpose than this one. Searching their archives, its almost 100% hit on subjects that have been discussed before. And, better yet, one always goes for the SUMMARY/Resolution. Isnt that what we all want? Or is this a Gossip corner?? For a Gossip corner, we are OKbut for true learning and solving of problems, we need solutions! While there might be 10 replies to one posting, only one might be really relevant, the rest personal emotions and such. Wouldn't you rather see a summary that only includes the one entry that correctly resolved the problem? I would. So instead of reading 25 back-and-forth entries to find one solution, i would rather have one post --then--its solution. Again, its just an idea Different folks, Different Strokes Richard --- Brian V Bonini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 21:39, charlie wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:23 am, Tru64 User had this to contribute :- Let me know what you guys think. _Thanks Richard Mollel Sort of defeats the purpose of the list. It is the think tank element of everyone throwing something in that makes this list a valuable learning experience IMHO. I wonder how long the list that uses the rules you mention has been running? It might also be relevant to know what it is dealing with I suppose? I certainly can't identify such an environment as allowing maximum discovery. Not quite 2 cents worth I know. Charlie. I agree and add that this is hardly a busy list that borders on being too much too handle. You can always hit delete on the topics your not interested in. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mini-Internet Provider
Hello, I'm currently sharing my ADSL internet with my sister. But she uses much less internet than I do, and she dont want to pay half of the ADSL costs for that. So I will charge her for hour or give her a hour/mounth quote. She will connect on my Mini Internet Provider by LAN withWindows. I need to know which services I can use for that problem. I would like to limit the bandwith too (I got 300kbps, and like to give her max 150). Can anyone lead me soI can google for the configure informations? Thanks all Milasch
[expert] disk check
how can i check disk partition in fat32 for errors? and how can i repair it. David Hlacik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I Found my Martians
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 09:32 am, Mark Watts wrote: Now to figure out how to either get my machine to ignore them, or get the print server to stop sending them. echo enable_log_strange_packets(no) /etc/security/msec/level.local /etc/cron.hourly/msec Thanks Mark. You just saved me some time and trouble. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 23:43, Tru64 User wrote: Hi All, The list I am refering to is for tru64 Unix ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IMHO, that list serves much better purpose than this one. Searching their archives, its almost 100% hit on subjects that have been discussed before. And, better yet, one always goes for the SUMMARY/Resolution. Isnt that what we all want? Or is this a Gossip corner?? For a Gossip corner, we are OKbut for true learning and solving of problems, we need solutions! I think we get the idea, but you need to accept that the people here on this list like the way it is. I haven't read all the messages in this thread, but those I've seen were pretty negative to the idea. It may be tough to find relevant hits in the archives sometimes, but it's damn easy to get help when you need it here (or at least sympathy ;-) Gossip corner forever! Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] disk check
On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 00:01, David Hlacik wrote: how can i check disk partition in fat32 for errors? and how can i repair it. David Hlacik David, I presume that you have a fat32 partition because you have W$ on the machine. So, the short answer would be scandisk or chkdsk under W$, there being no fsck.vfat AFAIK. If you don't have W$, then I can only guess that using fat32 is a result of severe personality problems and refuse to talk to you any more ;-) Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Linus Torvalds leaves Transmeta
OSDL scores bigtime. --- Original URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/31245.html Torvalds leaves Transmeta By Tony Smith Posted: 17/06/2003 at 10:47 GMT Linux creator Linus Torvalds is to quit Transmeta after six years to work full time on the open source operating system's kernel. In an email posted on the Linux Kernel Mailing List, Torvalds announces the long-awaited 2.5.72 kernel release. But tucked down toward the bottom, he says: The other big news - well, for me personally, anyway - is that I've decided to take a leave-of-absence after six+ years at Transmeta to actually work full-time on the kernel. To be fair, it seems that's largely what he's been doing at Transmeta. The chip company always said, when his appointment was announced back in early 1998, that he would be granted time to continue his work on the kernel. Indeed, the man himself admits that Transmeta has always been very good at letting me spend even an inordinate amount of time on Linux and I do not expect a huge amount of change as a result, testament to just how freely Transmeta has let me do Linux work. As a result, I've been feeling a little guilty about how little 'real work' I've been doing lately, Linus admits. Is he being political? Did he jump or was he pushed? Linus is a pretty self-effacing fellow, and his BS quotient seems pretty low, so it's worth taking the email at face value. So from 1 July, Linus will be working for the non-profits Open Source Development Lab, whose own sponsors are listed here. Larry Augustin, CEO of VA Software, an OSDL sponsor, said:I'm very pleased that we were able to create a place where Linus will be able to work full time on the kernel. Oddly enough, we looked at the ODSL situations vacant column but there was no sign of a 'Full-time Open Source Deity, must be non-smoker' listed among the Wanted ads. Clearly the vacancy has been filled... Whatever, Linus is finally being paid to do what he loves doing most, and you can't fault him for that. ® --LX -- Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Linux Mandrake 9.1 Enlightenment-0.16.5-12mdk Evolution 1.2.4-1.1mdk Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How might I get ACPI to work with mdk9.1?
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 08:42 am, Nisco wrote: Reboot(to append the right acpi=on string on the kernel) If thats /etc/lilo.conf that he's appending that to, then he'll need to run (as root): /sbin/lilo or the changes won't be recognized, no matter how many times you reboot. :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 10:17, Brian Parish wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 23:43, Tru64 User wrote: Hi All, The list I am refering to is for tru64 Unix ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IMHO, that list serves much better purpose than this one. Searching their archives, its almost 100% hit on subjects that have been discussed before. And, better yet, one always goes for the SUMMARY/Resolution. Isnt that what we all want? Or is this a Gossip corner?? For a Gossip corner, we are OKbut for true learning and solving of problems, we need solutions! I think we get the idea, but you need to accept that the people here on this list like the way it is. I haven't read all the messages in this thread, but those I've seen were pretty negative to the idea. It may be tough to find relevant hits in the archives sometimes, but it's damn easy to get help when you need it here (or at least sympathy ;-) Gossip corner forever! Brian Heh. ;) --LX -- Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Linux Mandrake 9.1 Enlightenment-0.16.5-12mdk Evolution 1.2.4-1.1mdk Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I Found my Martians
I'm getting martians on my box : martian source 255.255.255.255 from 127.0.0.1, on dev eth0 my ifconfig is: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:18:E5:70:46 inet addr:xxx.xxx.76.138 Bcast:xxx.xxx.76.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/232 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1862164 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:827069 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:429430 collisions:0 RX bytes:1516624543 (1446.3 Mb) TX bytes:232470269 (221.7 Mb) eth0:1Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:18:E5:70:46 inet addr:192.168.0.10 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:0/0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:179265 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:179265 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:176217972 (168.0 Mb) TX bytes:176217972 (168.0 Mb) I cannot find /etc/security/msec/level.local ! Any help?! TIA Cheers, On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 17 June 2003 09:32 am, Mark Watts wrote: Now to figure out how to either get my machine to ignore them, or get the print server to stop sending them. echo enable_log_strange_packets(no) /etc/security/msec/level.local /etc/cron.hourly/msec Thanks Mark. You just saved me some time and trouble. -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
** Tru64 User (Dienstag, 17. Juni 2003 15:43) For a Gossip corner, we are OKbut for true learning and solving of problems, we need solutions! You just named one of the reasons I'm reading this list and why I'd like to have it like it is: Learning! My background in Linux is only a couple of years, starting with some distros (DLD, Slackware, Caldera, SuSE, Red Hat) and finally settled on Mandrake (5.3). Since this list was brought to life I am reading it and I have lots of messages stored away for further reading or applying the contents. While it may be nice to ask a question and receive an answer with the solution it's also interesting to read the in-betweens. A to list: I have this question Q. B to A: Answer 1 C to A: Answer 2 D to A: Answer 3 A to D: Answer 3 is good but B wrote quote D to B: Yes, but B is wrong A to B: D said you're wrong B to A: No, I'm not! A to C: I did what you advised but my foo did not compile C to A: Why not? A to C: I got this error. A to B: C advised to do and I did it but my foo did not compile and I have this error B to A: It could be this and that. A to C: B said it could be this and that. C to A: Oh! Then it must be the harddrive. Do a blahblah and re-login. A to list: Referring question Q. The solution is: Do a blahblah and re-login. Is that what you have in mind? If the whole thing had been gone public it would have been faster, easier for A and a learning experience for some of the lurkers who learned that foo would not compile in this condition and was not a solution as well as Answer 3 wasn't either. While there might be 10 replies to one posting, only one might be really relevant, the rest personal emotions and such. Wouldn't you rather see a summary that only includes the one entry that correctly resolved the problem? I would. So instead of reading 25 back-and-forth entries to find one solution, i would rather have one post --then--its solution. OK, then go for an expert system, not a mailing list. A mailinglist - as far as I know them by some years - is mostly a forum for people interested in a topic or software or any issue. They don't want to post a question and get the solution and nothing else. They want to learn, give their opinions and even gather some self-esteem by answering other people's questions as soon as they have learned enough. The magic word is: Discussion. My $200,000.00 Life must be hard for people who regard their opinion not worthier than $0.02. wobo -- Public GnuPG key available at http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I Found my Martians
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 11:11 am, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: I'm getting martians on my box : martian source 255.255.255.255 from 127.0.0.1, on dev eth0 my ifconfig is: I found this in my /etc/sysconfig/networking/ifcfg-lo file # If you're having problems with gated making 127.0.0.0/8 a martian, # you can change this to something else (255.255.255.255, for example) Perhaps this helps. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] create fat32 file system
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i remember correctly, fat32 has a 4gb limitation --- Original Message --- From: David Hlacik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] create fat32 file system Hi, when i type mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1 it says ..Attempting to create too large file system. Why? /dev/hdb1 is 20GB large. Thanks David Hlacik It has a 4GB file limit. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
Re: [expert] create fat32 file system
David, Have you tried it with the -F switch? mkfs.vfat -F 32 Hi, when i type mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1 it says ..Attempting to create too large file system. Why? /dev/hdb1 is 20GB large. Thanks David Hlacik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: Running updatedb crashes my comp!
Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Friday 13 June 2003 07:51 pm, Lorne wrote: I wonder if it is a bad hard drive, and or controller. No errors during install? For it to die like that it just seems/smells hardware based. Are you running hdparm and doing anything to soup up to UDMA or anything? What about when you install. regular or expert install? Do you click the option on hard drives that activates LBA or UDMA or something. I'm sorry I can't remember what that option is. It would seem hardware wouldn't it? Yet sitting here from my end, I hesitate. Everything is less than 6 months old, and its mostly quality stuff (I know - anything can go bad). Basic setup is: Soyo Dragon Plus MB AMD XP2100 cpu 512 megs DDR ram (Corsair brand) Maxtor 80 gig HD Nvidia Ti4200 video card. Toshiba DVD Plextor CDRW 350 watt AMD approved PS So I dunno...you'd think this little system would rock. Hmmm... The Via ide chipset support has been somewhat changing from time to time... Some times it works perfect, other times not... And it works for some, and fails for others... A few things comes to mind... 1. Did you run the bonnie++ test? 2. Is your system overclocked? 3. Have you tried to boot with mem=nopentium? 4. Have you tried the latest update kernel (18mdk)? 5. Have you checked /var/log/messages for complaints about /dev/hda or ide0? 6. Is your harddisk alone on the primary bus? - If not... does it help to make it that way? (keep your DVD and CDRW on the secondary controller) Best Regards Thomas Backlund Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
SUMMARY:: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
OK, well said ppl. We (mandrake experts) don't want changes!. Got it. How about encouraging people to post final summaries then? At least we will know what solved their problems. In many cases, i read arguments but at the end never knows what resolved the issue. For example, as far as this thread goes, the initiator (me) is satisfied with the # of answers, thus I am posting the summary, with the inputs I received, which is, a SUMMARY of what all others said. NOT an entry of all what was SAID. _Thanks All for reading.. Richard. --- Wolfgang Bornath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Tru64 User (Dienstag, 17. Juni 2003 15:43) For a Gossip corner, we are OKbut for true learning and solving of problems, we need solutions! You just named one of the reasons I'm reading this list and why I'd like to have it like it is: Learning! My background in Linux is only a couple of years, starting with some distros (DLD, Slackware, Caldera, SuSE, Red Hat) and finally settled on Mandrake (5.3). Since this list was brought to life I am reading it and I have lots of messages stored away for further reading or applying the contents. While it may be nice to ask a question and receive an answer with the solution it's also interesting to read the in-betweens. A to list: I have this question Q. B to A: Answer 1 C to A: Answer 2 D to A: Answer 3 A to D: Answer 3 is good but B wrote quote D to B: Yes, but B is wrong A to B: D said you're wrong B to A: No, I'm not! A to C: I did what you advised but my foo did not compile C to A: Why not? A to C: I got this error. A to B: C advised to do and I did it but my foo did not compile and I have this error B to A: It could be this and that. A to C: B said it could be this and that. C to A: Oh! Then it must be the harddrive. Do a blahblah and re-login. A to list: Referring question Q. The solution is: Do a blahblah and re-login. Is that what you have in mind? If the whole thing had been gone public it would have been faster, easier for A and a learning experience for some of the lurkers who learned that foo would not compile in this condition and was not a solution as well as Answer 3 wasn't either. While there might be 10 replies to one posting, only one might be really relevant, the rest personal emotions and such. Wouldn't you rather see a summary that only includes the one entry that correctly resolved the problem? I would. So instead of reading 25 back-and-forth entries to find one solution, i would rather have one post --then--its solution. OK, then go for an expert system, not a mailing list. A mailinglist - as far as I know them by some years - is mostly a forum for people interested in a topic or software or any issue. They don't want to post a question and get the solution and nothing else. They want to learn, give their opinions and even gather some self-esteem by answering other people's questions as soon as they have learned enough. The magic word is: Discussion. My $200,000.00 Life must be hard for people who regard their opinion not worthier than $0.02. wobo -- Public GnuPG key available at http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] create fat32 file system
fat32 has 32 bits of adressing, thats the same as 2gb os adressing range. but the adressing is on sector/cylinter/etc, so, it seams to me that it can have more than 1Tb. Im not sure of that, so please do not be angry. I se that it has more than 4gb because i have a 26gbHDD fat32 formated. - Original Message - From: Brant Fitzsimmons To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [expert] create fat32 file system [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i remember correctly, fat32 has a 4gb limitation --- Original Message --- From: David Hlacik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] create fat32 file system Hi, when i type mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1 it says ..Attempting to create too large file system. Why? /dev/hdb1 is 20GB large. Thanks David Hlacik It has a 4GB file limit.-- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
Re: [expert] create fat32 file system
Joo Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: fat32 has 32 bits of adressing, thats the same as 2gb os adressing range. but the adressing is on sector/cylinter/etc, so, it seams to me that it can have more than 1Tb. Im not sure of that, so please do not be angry. I se that it has more than 4gb because i have a 26gbHDD fat32 formated. - Original Message - From: Brant Fitzsimmons To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [expert] create fat32 file system [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i remember correctly, fat32 has a 4gb limitation --- Original Message --- From: David Hlacik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] create fat32 file system Hi, when i type mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1 it says ..Attempting to create too large file system. Why? /dev/hdb1 is 20GB large. Thanks David Hlacik It has a 4GB file limit. 4GB individual file limit to be precise. I know that from running into it time and time again doing video editing. Here are the limits: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=""> -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
Re: [expert] How might I get ACPI to work with mdk9.1?
Thanks, I'm getting a little closer to fixing this. Made sure acpi=yes in lilo then ran /sbin/lilo as root, installed the packages and then rebooted. acpi was working somewhat, it could tell when I had the AC plugged in and when it was on battery, but it could not read the battery charge level and when I ran the following it did not seem to detect the battery ]# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state present: no After this I found someone with the same laptop Dell Inspiron 1100 who had success with Debian and 2.5 kernel. He had stated and Sourceforge that I needed to patch my DSDT for this Dell system so I tried but now I'm again looking at the battery with a red x through it on Klaptop and now /proc/acpi/battery/ is empty, no BAT1 directory The DSDT patch that I downloaded was against linux-2.4.21-rc1 acpi2003-4-24, anyone think I need to update the acpi version or kernel that bamboo comes with? Regards, Matt Osborne Electrical/Computer Engineering Christian Brothers University Memphis, Tennessee On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Nisco wrote: Il mar, 2003-06-17 alle 08:51, Matt Osborne ha scritto: Hi-- I've read through the mailing lists and searched for two days now for a solution to my laptops power management. I went into lilo.conf and set acpi=yes and rebooted, but I'm not quite sure what to do from here. Do I need to apply the patch found on Sourceforge or was bamboo's kernel already patched? Any help _very_very_ appreciated! I know your feeling... I had the same problem :) Well, try to set acpi=on instead of acpi=yes first. You also have to install 2 mandrake packets is you did not do so, they are: acpi-0.6-5mdk acipid-1.0.1-3mdk Reboot(to append the right acpi=on string on the kernel) once you did so you try ]# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state and it should give something like this present: yes capacity state: ok charging state: discharging present rate:unknown remaining capacity: 4011 mAh present voltage: 9600 mV Here you can reamaining capacity in milliampere another useful command is ]#acpi -V which gives you other informations: Thermal 1: ok, 70.0 degrees C AC Adapter 1: off-line Once acpi is up and running you could use Klaptop to have an userfrienly interface for your battery monitoring. Good luck! I have an Acer Aspire 1300XC and what I tould you above works for my laptop... give a try :) Cesare Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: SUMMARY:: [expert] Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
** Tru64 User (Dienstag, 17. Juni 2003 18:06) OK, well said ppl. We (mandrake experts) don't want changes!. Got it. Could you pls rephrase this into We don't want changes we regard as bad or not partable to our list.? How about encouraging people to post final summaries then? At least we will know what solved their problems. In many cases, i read arguments but at the end never knows what resolved the issue. It's always good behaviour to post a final solution of a problem which was discussed on the list. This is standard policy but I must admit that it is sometimes not followed. For example, as far as this thread goes, the initiator (me) is satisfied with the # of answers, thus I am posting the summary, with the inputs I received, which is, a SUMMARY of what all others said. NOT an entry of all what was SAID. This is the difference of this public list to a list of your preferance. We already know the summary because we all read the varous postings. Reading the postings also told us the opinions of the various posters which will give us a picture of one or the other. A summary like you propose is sometimes not the same as the varous postings. Example: Your sentence about us not liking changes. That's not what the posters wrote. They don't like YOUR proposed changes. A SOLUTION is different and should be posted. We cannot know what the asking user did in the and after having received some advices here on the list. It also could be that the solution was something derived from several postings. So the user HAS to post a solution-posting. A SUMMARY is different. _Thanks All for reading.. No problem. IMHO it's a Good Thing(TM) to have propositions, discussions and summaries about this list. It's a democratic thing. wobo -- Public GnuPG key available at http://www.wolf-b.de/misc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] create fat32 file system
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 2:45 pm, David Hlacik wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i remember correctly, fat32 has a 4gb limitation no it is not true. David Hlacik fat16, I think. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert](2) Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 2:54 pm, Tru64 User wrote: Additional Notes: The list I am talking about has been in existence long before Linux mandrake was popular. Before HPQ bought Compaq, and b4 Compaq bought DEC. DEC Alpha -Tru64 Unix List. This is getting tiresome. No doubt your *other* list has its purposes. Part of the purpose of this list is so that we can all learn, which we do from reading the whole troubleshooting process. We *do* encourage solutions to be posted. If you have given up reading by then you will miss them, but if the subject's interesting to you, you will learn much. As I have said before, give me an answer and it will solve my problem - this time. Next time I meet it I will have to ask again. Teach me to troubleshoot that problem and I have learned something valuable. That's what I get from both the newbie and the expert list. And, BTW, your over-long quotes are a PITA to those why pay by the minute. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I Found my Martians
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 4:47 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 17 June 2003 11:11 am, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: I'm getting martians on my box : martian source 255.255.255.255 from 127.0.0.1, on dev eth0 my ifconfig is: I found this in my /etc/sysconfig/networking/ifcfg-lo file # If you're having problems with gated making 127.0.0.0/8 a martian, # you can change this to something else (255.255.255.255, for example) Perhaps this helps. When the important problem-solving is over - (whisper) could someone explain to me about martians? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] create fat32 file system
Fat16 has suport to 4gb, but its not recommended to driver greater than 512mb, i think - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [expert] create fat32 file system On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 2:45 pm, David Hlacik wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i remember correctly, fat32 has a 4gb limitation no it is not true. David Hlacik fat16, I think. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] irc client
Hi, i am looking for some good irc client with dcc support and /ctcp support. David Hlacik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] irc client
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 11:25, David Hlacik wrote: Hi, i am looking for some good irc client with dcc support and /ctcp support. David Hlacik xchat rocks. BitchX is good if you take a little time to configure it. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I Found my Martians
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 6:47 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 17 June 2003 12:48 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: When the important problem-solving is over - (whisper) could someone explain to me about martians? Sure Anne, they are little green men that come from the planet Mars :-D. :-P Seriously though, my understanding is that they are tcp packets that appear to have no sender. In other words, they have come from nowhere, yet they are everywhere. Some device sends out a packet with an improperly configured header which does not identify the source. Ah - that makes sense. Thank you Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] create fat32 file system
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 09:20, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: João Candido Araujo Milasch Filho wrote: fat32 has 32 bits of adressing, thats the same as 2gb os adressing range. but the adressing is on sector/cylinter/etc, so, it seams to me that it can have more than 1Tb. Im not sure of that, so please do not be angry. I se that it has more than 4gb because i have a 26gbHDD fat32 formated. The real question as I see it is not the limit of fat32 but the limit of mkdosfs ... this might be exceeded. Other possibility. the partition doesn't match the drive correctly.. in this case the error of creating too large a file system means that it is too large for the drive (for example the partition table goes past the last cylinder of the physical drive.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] disk check
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 07:22, Brian Parish wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 00:01, David Hlacik wrote: how can i check disk partition in fat32 for errors? and how can i repair it. David Hlacik David, I presume that you have a fat32 partition because you have W$ on the machine. So, the short answer would be scandisk or chkdsk under W$, there being no fsck.vfat AFAIK. If you don't have W$, then I can only guess that using fat32 is a result of severe personality problems and refuse to talk to you any more ;-) Brian I can think of a 3rd scenario, He is using a Linux bootable CD to repair hosed winders installs. (usually easier than trying to do it under winders.) James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] irc client
Hi, i am looking for some good irc client with dcc support and /ctcp support. David Hlacik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Daemons needed.
All, In mtools there is a daemon called floppyd this allows you to create a listener that allows for writing to a floppy from any location (or reading) on the net on the fly by IP number and port. Useful but floppies are kind of small. Unlike doing NFS or Samba mounting it's less susceptible to things like boxes hanging if something goes down etc. It also allows for doing things like accessing multiple locations on the fly. Now for the question does anyone know of a similar kind of daemon for other devices (cdrom usb etc etc.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Wireless internet advertisment
¡Eureka!, The University of Murcia is testing a wireless system with 22 Km of radious :-); It is the moment to participate in the test; my house is 5 Km from the emiting point and I would like to use my desktop computer and my laptop. But I must recognized I have not idea about wireless internet conection, wireless cards runing under Mandrake 9.1 and so on. So I am looking for help. Is anyone has this runing with our prefered distributions please, help me! or give some urls to look for information about this subject. Thanks a lot in advance; Regards -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Murcia, España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Daemons needed.
En/na James Sparenberg ha escrit: Now for the question does anyone know of a similar kind of daemon for other devices (cdrom usb etc etc.) There's documentation on how to do that at the ltsp site: http://ltsp.org/contrib/LTSP_FLOPPY.html http://ltsp.org/contrib/generic_rmedia.html Bye -- Que les importa a las viudas, a los huérfanos, a los desvalidos si las masacres se hacen en nombre del totalitarismo o en el sagrado nombre de la libertad y la democracia. Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] Linux equivalent to Windows Domain
I've got a few machines at home that I'd like to set up to share users so I don't have to keep files passwords in sync across multiple boxes. I'm having trouble figuring out how to do this. Fact is, as an admin, I'm a newbie, and I don't even know where to start looking for info on how to do this. I have read that you can make samba act as a windows domain controller, which would do the trick if necessary, but I pretty much only use Linux at home (no current windows boxes). I had thought that LDAP might be a route to handle this, but I can't even find a source on configuring LDAP that I can understand. (I'm a bit sleep deprived right now, so that probably isn't helping.) Can anybody help me out or point me in the right direction? Thansk. - Theo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I Found my Martians
On September 1993 plus 3576 days Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 17 June 2003 12:48 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: When the important problem-solving is over - (whisper) could someone explain to me about martians? Sure Anne, they are little green men that come from the planet Mars :-D. Seriously though, my understanding is that they are tcp packets that appear to have no sender. In other words, they have come from nowhere, yet they are everywhere. Some device sends out a packet with an improperly configured header which does not identify the source. Actually, that's only part of the whole thing :) A martian packet is one that comes from a network that shouldn't be sending packets to that interface. If you get a packet from 192.168.1.54 on your public (ie. internet) interface, it'll get marked as martian because a packet from a private interface shouldn't come to the public interface. Same happens with improper headers without identifying source...they get marked as martians because the interface can't confirm it comes from a valid source. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] 2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1 - IRQ Balancing still not fixed...
vincent == Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: vincent On Mon Jun 16, 2003 at 12:58:58PM +0100, Mark Watts wrote: My original email included the paste from 2.4.21-0.18mdkenterprise. I'll include it again here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# uname -a Linux mail1 2.4.21-0.18mdkenterprise #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 11:44:12 MDT 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 CPU1 0: 46423 0IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 2 0IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade 5: 0 0 IO-APIC-level usb-ohci 8: 1 0IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 6 0IO-APIC-edge ide0 16: 16 0 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx 17: 16 0 IO-APIC-level aic7xxx 28: 5206 0 IO-APIC-level eth0 29: 4179 0 IO-APIC-level eth1 30: 11562 0 IO-APIC-level aacraid NMI: 0 0 LOC: 46328 46283 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 vincent I'm really not sure why you're getting this... on my end it looks fine with vincent my dual Athlon. I'm cc'ing this to Juan so he can see what's going on and vincent maybe he has some ideas. it works for me(tm) without any problem, that very same kernel: Linux deus.mitica 2.4.21-0.18mdksmp #1 SMP Tue Jun 3 20:25:42 CEST 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux quintela$ cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 CPU1 0:17962871925337IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 2 0IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade 4:195240IO-APIC-edge serial 8: 1 0IO-APIC-edge rtc 9: 0 0 IO-APIC-level acpi 14: 7472 8162IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 17 11IO-APIC-edge ide1 16: 34576 34687 IO-APIC-level eth0 17: 0 0 IO-APIC-level AMD 768 NMI: 0 0 LOC:37215143721509 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 quintela$ Installing enterprise, but shouldn't bmake a difference. -- In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they are different -- Larry McVoy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux equivalent to Windows Domain
One way is NIS + NFS. I believe Mandrake has some tools to configure both (never done it though). Guillaume. On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 18:29, Theo Brinkman wrote: I've got a few machines at home that I'd like to set up to share users so I don't have to keep files passwords in sync across multiple boxes. I'm having trouble figuring out how to do this. Fact is, as an admin, I'm a newbie, and I don't even know where to start looking for info on how to do this. I have read that you can make samba act as a windows domain controller, which would do the trick if necessary, but I pretty much only use Linux at home (no current windows boxes). I had thought that LDAP might be a route to handle this, but I can't even find a source on configuring LDAP that I can understand. (I'm a bit sleep deprived right now, so that probably isn't helping.) Can anybody help me out or point me in the right direction? Thansk. - Theo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux equivalent to Windows Domain
What you are talking about is generally reffered to as single signon (i.e. one signon for all machines). Difference is that you are looking for a cross-platform deal. There are 3 primary systems for doing this, one for Windows called Active Directory, one for Linux which is a combination of NIS and NFS and lastly there is the Samba-LDAP + NFS arrangement which I use to do it in a cross-platform manner. First thing you have to do is figure out how to run NFS to share out the /home directory. For the rest, try the last 3 articles on OpenLDAP at http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/ They are on the right hand side under Recent MandrakeSecure Documents I've got a few machines at home that I'd like to set up to share users so I don't have to keep files passwords in sync across multiple boxes. I'm having trouble figuring out how to do this. Fact is, as an admin, I'm a newbie, and I don't even know where to start looking for info on how to do this. I have read that you can make samba act as a windows domain controller, which would do the trick if necessary, but I pretty much only use Linux at home (no current windows boxes). I had thought that LDAP might be a route to handle this, but I can't even find a source on configuring LDAP that I can understand. (I'm a bit sleep deprived right now, so that probably isn't helping.) Can anybody help me out or point me in the right direction? Thansk. - Theo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] disk check
David, I presume that you have a fat32 partition because you have W$ on the machine. So, the short answer would be scandisk or chkdsk under W$, there being no fsck.vfat AFAIK. If you don't have W$, then I can only guess that using fat32 is a result of severe personality problems and refuse to talk to you any more ;-) Brian Well what about haveing a writeable (from Linux ) W$ partition? Or perhaps I am mistakeing and there is now NTFS writeability from Linux out there somewhere? Damn I miss being able to write between the two OS's. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I Found my Martians
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:52:17 -0500, Vox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On September 1993 plus 3576 days Greg Meyer wrote:
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 12:48 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
When the important problem-solving is over - (whisper) could someone
explain to me about martians?
Sure Anne, they are little green men that come from the planet Mars :-D.
Seriously though, my understanding is that they are tcp packets that appear
to have no sender. In other words, they have come from nowhere, yet they
are everywhere. Some device sends out a packet with an improperly
configured header which does not identify the source.
Actually, that's only part of the whole thing :) A martian packet is
one that comes from a network that shouldn't be sending packets to
that interface. If you get a packet from 192.168.1.54 on your public
(ie. internet) interface, it'll get marked as martian because a
packet from a private interface shouldn't come to the public
interface. Same happens with improper headers without identifying
source...they get marked as martians because the interface can't
confirm it comes from a valid source.
Vox
I had an experience with martians recently. I was getting connection attempts
from 192.168.100.1. I initially told my firewall to block all invalid addresses,
but a day later I discovered that it was my cable modem (Motorola Surfboard
SB3100). The device had a full Web configuration interface and its own DHCP
server, and I only discovered this three years after buying it!
I'm not slow, I'm just fashionably late! :)
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[expert] kernels updates !!??
Hi All ... I have downloaded the kernel updates for mdk91, but the rpm -Fvh kernel etc doesn't work ... Does exist a special way to update the kernel ? rodrigo dgfuch Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernels updates !!??
Have a look here, http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php This will outline how to update your kernel, it is not difficult. On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:49, Rodrigo wrote: Hi All ... I have downloaded the kernel updates for mdk91, but the rpm -Fvh kernel etc doesn't work ... Does exist a special way to update the kernel ? rodrigo dgfuch -- Cheers, Craig. Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel version: 2.4.21-0.18mdk Current Linux Uptime: 2 days 15 hours 34 minutes. Registered Linux User: 228534 Avoid the Gates of Hell. Use Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux equivalent to Windows Domain
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 15:29, Theo Brinkman wrote: I've got a few machines at home that I'd like to set up to share users so I don't have to keep files passwords in sync across multiple boxes. I'm having trouble figuring out how to do this. Fact is, as an admin, I'm a newbie, and I don't even know where to start looking for info on how to do this. There are two documents that may or may not be on your box yet but are as close as urpmi SAG (System Admins Guide) NAG (Network Admins Guide) just do urpmi nag sag and you can get them. I have read that you can make samba act as a windows domain controller, which would do the trick if necessary, but I pretty much only use Linux at home (no current windows boxes). I had thought that LDAP might be a route to handle this, but I can't even find a source on configuring LDAP that I can understand. (I'm a bit sleep deprived right now, so that probably isn't helping.) Can anybody help me out or point me in the right direction? Thansk. - Theo __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I Found my Martians
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:19, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:52:17 -0500, Vox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On September 1993 plus 3576 days Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 17 June 2003 12:48 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: When the important problem-solving is over - (whisper) could someone explain to me about martians? Sure Anne, they are little green men that come from the planet Mars :-D. Seriously though, my understanding is that they are tcp packets that appear to have no sender. In other words, they have come from nowhere, yet they are everywhere. Some device sends out a packet with an improperly configured header which does not identify the source. Actually, that's only part of the whole thing :) A martian packet is one that comes from a network that shouldn't be sending packets to that interface. If you get a packet from 192.168.1.54 on your public (ie. internet) interface, it'll get marked as martian because a packet from a private interface shouldn't come to the public interface. Same happens with improper headers without identifying source...they get marked as martians because the interface can't confirm it comes from a valid source. Vox I had an experience with martians recently. I was getting connection attempts from 192.168.100.1. I initially told my firewall to block all invalid addresses, but a day later I discovered that it was my cable modem (Motorola Surfboard SB3100). The device had a full Web configuration interface and its own DHCP server, and I only discovered this three years after buying it! I'm not slow, I'm just fashionably late! :) Reason number 512 on we at least looking at the instructions might be worthwhile *large evil grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert](2) Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 12:46 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 2:54 pm, Tru64 User wrote: Additional Notes: The list I am talking about has been in existence long before Linux mandrake was popular. Before HPQ bought Compaq, and b4 Compaq bought DEC. DEC Alpha -Tru64 Unix List. This is getting tiresome. No doubt your *other* list has its purposes. Part of the purpose of this list is so that we can all learn, which we do from reading the whole troubleshooting process. We *do* encourage solutions to be posted. If you have given up reading by then you will miss them, but if the subject's interesting to you, you will learn much. As I have said before, give me an answer and it will solve my problem - this time. Next time I meet it I will have to ask again. Teach me to troubleshoot that problem and I have learned something valuable. That's what I get from both the newbie and the expert list. And, BTW, your over-long quotes are a PITA to those why pay by the minute. Anne Just an add-on: I can see where a list whose membership consisted entirely of sysadmins and similar types would work under the rules proposed by the OP. However, the membership here is much more heterogeneous any way you slice it -- experience, knowledge, usage, whatever. I heartily endorse the idea of a Summary response (here it's usually done by adding [SOLVED] to the original subject), particularly when the thread has been a long one. Doing so brings closure to the thread, greatly simplifies searching the archives, and it has the additional benefit of thanking those who contributed to the solution. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Solved Re: [expert](2) Suggestions to help Minimize List EmailTraffic
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 19:01, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 17 June 2003 12:46 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 2:54 pm, Tru64 User wrote: Additional Notes: The list I am talking about has been in existence long before Linux mandrake was popular. Before HPQ bought Compaq, and b4 Compaq bought DEC. DEC Alpha -Tru64 Unix List. This is getting tiresome. No doubt your *other* list has its purposes. Part of the purpose of this list is so that we can all learn, which we do from reading the whole troubleshooting process. We *do* encourage solutions to be posted. If you have given up reading by then you will miss them, but if the subject's interesting to you, you will learn much. As I have said before, give me an answer and it will solve my problem - this time. Next time I meet it I will have to ask again. Teach me to troubleshoot that problem and I have learned something valuable. That's what I get from both the newbie and the expert list. And, BTW, your over-long quotes are a PITA to those why pay by the minute. Anne Just an add-on: I can see where a list whose membership consisted entirely of sysadmins and similar types would work under the rules proposed by the OP. However, the membership here is much more heterogeneous any way you slice it -- experience, knowledge, usage, whatever. I heartily endorse the idea of a Summary response (here it's usually done by adding [SOLVED] to the original subject), particularly when the thread has been a long one. Doing so brings closure to the thread, greatly simplifies searching the archives, and it has the additional benefit of thanking those who contributed to the solution. -- cmg Can this then end this thread *grin*! James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernels updates !!??
On Wednesday 18 June 2003 12:49 am, Rodrigo wrote: Hi All ... I have downloaded the kernel updates for mdk91, but the rpm -Fvh kernel etc doesn't work ... Does exist a special way to update the kernel ? You can not upgrade the kernel that way, you have to install it in parallel with -ivh. Once you have successfully booted to the new kernel, you can safely rpm -e the old kernel package. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] disk check
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 02:55 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 07:22, Brian Parish wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 00:01, David Hlacik wrote: how can i check disk partition in fat32 for errors? and how can i repair it. David Hlacik David, I presume that you have a fat32 partition because you have W$ on the machine. So, the short answer would be scandisk or chkdsk under W$, there being no fsck.vfat AFAIK. If you don't have W$, then I can only guess that using fat32 is a result of severe personality problems and refuse to talk to you any more ;-) Brian I can think of a 3rd scenario, He is using a Linux bootable CD to repair hosed winders installs. (usually easier than trying to do it under winders.) James James: Or he could have a FAT32 partition so that he can easily move data between Linux and Windows. That way all of his porn files can be kept in one place. My attitude has always been to use MS tools to fiddle with MS partitioning and formatting, and Linux tools for the Linux side. Am I being overly cautious? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I Found my Martians [OT]
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 12:48 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: When the important problem-solving is over - (whisper) could someone explain to me about martians? Anne It's what happens to those who don't wear tinfoil hats. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Shared Raw file systems
I know how to create raw filesystems with mdk (8.2) and LVM, but now I got ahold of a SCSI disk array and have connected to machones running mdk 8.2 to them. How can I make the LVM partitions and the /dev/raw/raw* identical on both machines to I can play with clustered applications like Oracle 9i and others? -- Dave Seff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernels updates !!??
Is this still true (the article is a few years old)? It says you can't update a kernel with software manager. I did last week (since i didn;t know any better), and it worked fine. I can't actually check what they said about lilo because i have since reinstalled. (no, not cuz of the kernel :) eric On Tuesday 17 June 2003 06:05 pm, Craig wrote: Have a look here, http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php This will outline how to update your kernel, it is not difficult. On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:49, Rodrigo wrote: Hi All ... I have downloaded the kernel updates for mdk91, but the rpm -Fvh kernel etc doesn't work ... Does exist a special way to update the kernel ? rodrigo dgfuch Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernels updates !!??
eric huff wrote: Is this still true (the article is a few years old)? It says you can't update a kernel with software manager. I did last week (since i didn;t know any better), and it worked fine. I can't actually check what they said about lilo because i have since reinstalled. (no, not cuz of the kernel :) eric On Tuesday 17 June 2003 06:05 pm, Craig wrote: Have a look here, http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php This will outline how to update your kernel, it is not difficult. Rpmdrake has been modified since to only install kernels: $ cat /etc/urpmi/inst.list # Here you can specify packages that need to be installed instead # of being upgraded (typically kernel packages). kernel kernel-smp kernel-secure kernel-enterprise kernel-linus2.2 kernel-linus2.4 kernel22 kernel22-secure kernel22-smp hackkernel Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Linux equivalent to Windows Domain
If all machines are Linux then NIS and NFS will do exactly what you want and is very easy to setup. If you are wanting to share files with Micro*$) then you will want to add Samba to the list. Samba is also very easy to setup with Mandrake. At least all these work very well under 9.0. If you want to keep Linux and Samba passwords in sync you will want to make your NIS Master and the Samba Server the same machine so that Samba can sync the passwords. You also want to put Samba on the File server. I belive LDAP is a bit more than you want for just a few machines. Mike On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 15:29, Theo Brinkman wrote: I've got a few machines at home that I'd like to set up to share users so I don't have to keep files passwords in sync across multiple boxes. I'm having trouble figuring out how to do this. Fact is, as an admin, I'm a newbie, and I don't even know where to start looking for info on how to do this. I have read that you can make samba act as a windows domain controller, which would do the trick if necessary, but I pretty much only use Linux at home (no current windows boxes). I had thought that LDAP might be a route to handle this, but I can't even find a source on configuring LDAP that I can understand. (I'm a bit sleep deprived right now, so that probably isn't helping.) Can anybody help me out or point me in the right direction? Thansk. - Theo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Michael Noble mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernels updates !!??
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 10:57 pm, eric huff wrote: Is this still true (the article is a few years old)? It says you can't update a kernel with software manager. I did last week (since i didn;t know any better), and it worked fine. I can't actually check what they said about lilo because i have since reinstalled. (no, not cuz of the kernel :) It is true. The software installer (rpmdrake) has been modified to install the new kernel in parallel to the old rather than update. See the /etc/urpmi/inst.list file. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernels updates !!??
[Re-directed to the list, after replying to Rodrigo...] IIRC, you should *always* use rpm -i (install) for kernel rpms, not -F (freshen, i.e. update.) Doing so could (will?) result in a non-bootable system (because update will try to delete your current kernel and--even if it succeeds--the new one might not work.) I believe that the package naming is deliberately 'broken', so you can't do this accidentally... Once you've installed the new kernel, you should check /etc/lilo.conf (man lilo.conf to learn more) and make sure it's right. Then run lilo--this can't hurt, and it will warn you if anything is missing, etc. Finally, I'll assume that this is your first kernel install, in which case: keep a rescue disk handy. HTH, -Jason On Wednesday 18 June 2003 12:49 am, Rodrigo wrote: Hi All ... I have downloaded the kernel updates for mdk91, but the rpm -Fvh kernel etc doesn't work ... Does exist a special way to update the kernel ? rodrigo dgfuch -- = If it wasn't for the fun and money, I really don't know why I'd bother. (alt.fan.pratchett) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Solved Re: [expert](2) Suggestions to help Minimize List Email Traffic
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 10:18 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 19:01, Carroll Grigsby wrote: cmg Can this then end this thread *grin*! James Uh huh. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernels updates !!??
On Wednesday 18 June 2003 00:13, PlugHead wrote: [Re-directed to the list, after replying to Rodrigo...] IIRC, you should *always* use rpm -i (install) for kernel rpms, not -F (freshen, i.e. update.) Doing so could (will?) result in a non-bootable system (because update will try to delete your current kernel and--even if it succeeds--the new one might not work.) Here's a concise sure-fire manual way to upgrade the Mandrake kernels with the new rpm versions Mandrake issues. Upgrading with vanilla kernel.org sources with any extra patches differs, and is a little more complicated, but for Mandrake rpms, the steps below are all that's needed. 1. Download the new kernel and kernel source rpms to their own directory you create in /home (two rpms). 2.Open a console, su to root, and cd to that directory. 3. Type: rpm -ivh *.rpm 4. After they install, check the following locations: 1. /etc/lilo.conf. You should now see the new stanza for the new kernel at the bottom. 2. /boot. You should now see items for the new kernel there. 3. /usr/src. There should be a new directory there for the new kernel. 4. /lib/modules. There should be a new kernel modules directory there. If all that checks out, you have done it, and can reboot, and choose the new kernel in the lilo boot screen. The old kernel will still be listed, and available. That's all there is to it with the Mandrake rpm kernel updates, as all copying and editing is done automatically. Robert Crawford Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kernels updates !!??
Robert Crawford wrote: On Wednesday 18 June 2003 00:13, PlugHead wrote: [Re-directed to the list, after replying to Rodrigo...] IIRC, you should *always* use rpm -i (install) for kernel rpms, not -F (freshen, i.e. update.) Doing so could (will?) result in a non-bootable system (because update will try to delete your current kernel and--even if it succeeds--the new one might not work.) Here's a concise sure-fire manual way to upgrade the Mandrake kernels with the new rpm versions Mandrake issues. Upgrading with vanilla kernel.org sources with any extra patches differs, and is a little more complicated, but for Mandrake rpms, the steps below are all that's needed. 1. Download the new kernel and kernel source rpms to their own directory you create in /home (two rpms). 2.Open a console, su to root, and cd to that directory. 3. Type: rpm -ivh *.rpm 4. After they install, check the following locations: 1. /etc/lilo.conf. You should now see the new stanza for the new kernel at the bottom. 2. /boot. You should now see items for the new kernel there. 3. /usr/src. There should be a new directory there for the new kernel. 4. /lib/modules. There should be a new kernel modules directory there. If all that checks out, you have done it, and can reboot, and choose the new kernel in the lilo boot screen. The old kernel will still be listed, and available. That's all there is to it with the Mandrake rpm kernel updates, as all copying and editing is done automatically. Robert Crawford Yep this is the way it's done.. but it sure is questionable why in the Mandrake notice on the kernel, *MandrakeSoft Security Advisory MDKSA-2003:066 : kernel the have the following: * To upgrade automatically, use *MandrakeUpdate*. If you want to upgrade manually, download the updated package(s) from one of our FTP server mirrors http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/ftp.php and upgrade with rpm -Fvh *.rpm. :-P Larry * * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
