[FairfieldLife] 'Bush: The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here
George must think, he's a CEO of a large corporation; And that he's reallynot responsible for anything: Because in a corporation, you can pass the buck, literally, Andquite easily, Right? Robert Gimbel Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: In Praise of Price-Gouging
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shemp, you'll love this... Thank you, Judy. Yes, I did love it, as I love most things that Stossel writes and does with his 20/20 pieces, as you know as we've discussed Stossel in the past. Indeed, for the benefit of those who aren't that familiar with Stossel, he asked the most important journalistic question in the last 50 years: Who has done more to benefit the world, convicted Junk Bond King Michael Milken or Mother Theresa. You can perhaps guess from the gist of the article below what Stossel's answer was... In praise of price gouging John Stossel September 7, 2005 Politicians and the media are furious about price increases in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. They want gas stations and water sellers punished. If you want to score points cracking down on mean, greedy profiteers, pushing anti-gouging rules is a very good thing. But if you're one of the people the law protects from price gouging, you won't fare as well. Consider this scenario: You are thirsty -- worried that your baby is going to become dehydrated. You find a store that's open, and the storeowner thinks it's immoral to take advantage of your distress, so he won't charge you a dime more than he charged last week. But you can't buy water from him. It's sold out. You continue on your quest, and finally find that dreaded monster, the price gouger. He offers a bottle of water that cost $1 last week at an outrageous price -- say $20. You pay it to survive the disaster. You resent the price gouger. But if he hadn't demanded $20, he'd have been out of water. It was the price gouger's exploitation that saved your child. It saved her because people look out for their own interests. Before you got to the water seller, other people did. At $1 a bottle, they stocked up. At $20 a bottle, they bought more cautiously. By charging $20, the price gouger makes sure his water goes to those who really need it. The people the softheaded politicians think are cruelest are doing the most to help. Assuming the demand for bottled water was going to go up, they bought a lot of it, planning to resell it at a steep profit. If they hadn't done that, that water would not have been available for the people who need it the most. Read the whole column at: http://www.townhall.com/columnists/JohnStossel/printjs20050907.shtml http://tinyurl.com/9jruh Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Austin's NOLA guests = crime wave
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where would you put the New Orleans port if not there? Anywhere except below sea level? From USA Today: Experts, including those from the Army Corps of Engineers, have predicted for years that a hurricane as large as Katrina could cause widespread flooding in New Orleans. Yes, but where would it be? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: REM or high energy bars
I don't know what their storage life is ('cause I eat them so fast) but I just love Clif Bars: http://www.clifbar.com/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any good recommendation for any vegetarian and or vegan READY TO EAT MEALS or high energy high calorie bars that have long shelf life? I think bars would be easiest to store and be most mobile as would smaller bottles of water. I did an online search and found all kinds of kits and also water pouches that were cool etc and I do store water and some canned things and can opener in my basement and I do not live in an area that would be evacauated due to flood and I dont have more a few days worth of bare mimimum. I liked the water pouches online as they said they dont break under any pressure or leak but most likely the little I have is enough. However when thinking of REM seems bars would be best. I am sure the ones at the heatlh food store have expirations and are any high calorie high energy like 3600 calories? That is what I saw online. Any idea probably good to have some emergency info things around. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] I met Gurudev yesterday
He was a client...from India...first name: Gurudev. Sikh from the Punjab. Lives in a $1 million home in North West Phoenix. I almost greeted him with a Movement-honed Jai Guru Dev. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] FEMA getting the $50 billion
From Reuters: [...] FEMA will receive nearly all of the funds approved on Thursday -- $50 billion -- while the Defense Department will get $1.4 billion for its rescue efforts. The Army Corps of Engineers will get $400 million to dredge navigation channels, repair pump stations and levees in New Orleans and repair other projects in Gulf states. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: REM or high energy bars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any good recommendation for any vegetarian and or vegan READY TO EAT MEALS or high energy high calorie bars that have long shelf life? I think bars would be easiest to store and be most mobile as would smaller bottles of water. I did an online search and found all kinds of kits and also water pouches that were cool etc and I do store water and some canned things and can opener in my basement and I do not live in an area that would be evacauated due to flood and I dont have more a few days worth of bare mimimum. I liked the water pouches online as they said they dont break under any pressure or leak but most likely the little I have is enough. However when thinking of REM seems bars would be best. I am sure the ones at the heatlh food store have expirations and are any high calorie high energy like 3600 calories? That is what I saw online. Any idea probably good to have some emergency info things around. Try sources in Utah. As I understand it, Mormons are advised to have a year's worth of food stored at all times, so there is a big business in such provisions, and probably a large variety. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma on The Dawning of Vedic Culture in India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/8/05 9:30 PM, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what do enlightened people who are not Hindu cognize texts in? COBOL or BASIC. Funny. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Saved Through Dzogchen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great to hear from you and that you and your loved ones are well. Take care, and stay in touch when you can. All the best to you. Second that. Take care... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub_mamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few months back I sought Dzogchen Protector practices for no specific reason. Then unexpectedly one of my two tsawai lamas Venerable Lho Ontul Rinpoche came to New Orleans and gave Protector empowerments which were awesome. I practiced them and always felt a current of fear which I figured was just my attachments and self cherishing coming to the surface. So it was quite amazing when I went to Vermont to see Kyabje Kunzang Dechen Lingpa for the Green Mountain Dharma Festival and it coincided with Hurricane Katrina. My wife and I had placed our beautiful parrots in the best possible place for them for the duration of our trip, at the bird boarding with the owners of the place from where we got them. A place that's like summer camp for them once or twice a year. We have not been able to contact them since the storm, but right before the storm we talked to them and they said they would die before letting any harm come to the birds. So we feel they are probably as OK as the pet shop owners. My wife's parents and brother skipped town the Friday before Katrina and so were safe in Baton Rouge. Altogether, my wife and I have personally only had to be concerned with whether our house still existed or not. It does, though we have no idea of the extent of the damage. That and whether we still have jobs or cars and all that basic stuff. Directly from Vermont we flew to my sister's in California and watched New Orleans go down the tubes. We will move back ASAP. There's nowhere else we would really want to live. Sorry Tom, we love New Orleans, blacks and all, and we're especially sorry for you that you act like a jilted lover who then thinks beautiful women should all be burned alive on stakes. The irony for me is that you pay blacks to do Vedic ceremonies for your soul and you hate blacks. On to reality. We had no success whatsoever with FEMA. They only come into play when your insurance doesn't, and so what do you do when adjusters cannot even view your home for two months. Anyway, Erin and I are extremely lucky. I get time to play with my nephew who is four, and basically just hang out. Oddly, Kunzang Dechen Lingpa is teaching at the end of the month here in LA so I get even more of his supreme treasure teachings. I am blessed, and protected through Dzogchen. Others have not been so lucky. I'll up a photo of a friends house for Tom to laugh at. Imagine yourself there.Remember that the land of the KKK also bit the dust along with their chosen food for lynching. (To imagine a 60 year old nerd proclaiming to be Aryan Brother. They wouldn't have you Tom, you old nut!) Erin and I aren't thrilled to be refugees. But we're thrilled to be alive and basically sound, and with our families intact. I can only imagine the true heart rending hell that thousands upon thousands endured. What do we feel losing so much of New Orleans like this? We feel lucky that we weren't there. We foresaw the Superdome turning into hell from day one. We feel sorry for ignorance, and poor planing, and superficial Federal response, and basic lack of sense of urgency of disaster teams. We don't point fingures but if you were the CEO in charge of Ford and their recall of 3.8 million autos through deficient cruise control switches then I would suspect that your shareholders would question your choices. I need not say more. What the hell was Bush smiling about when he was in Baton Rouge? I don't get it. FEMA's director's online bio has false info in it. He's a liar. Of course, who cares right? Just one more insubstancial factoid in a huge disaster of epic proportions. For sheer numbers the exodus of Jews from Egypt probably amounted to less bodies. Personally the glib politicising on TV and here at this group shows a superficial connection with life. If any response comes to mind when viewing the tragedy besides awe then one is just afriad to feel. Frankly, I'm not really well. I haven't slept in my own bed for going on a month and see no end in sight. I feel like Odesseus coming back from Troy. All the music on the radio is about not being able to find the way home. I feel sorry for the blacks and the poor, and I feel most sorry for those who use this to their political advantage. Because this isn't the last disaster to confront the US by any means. It's just the first. If people aren't studying this and
[FairfieldLife] what a snippy group
I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at each other has become the norm. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'We've Been Disgraced!'
Thought he and his wife, try so hard to appear graceful; By wearing the proper clothes washed and well mated. And getting the proper excersize, keeping the heart rate down. All of this for the good of the public image. And image is what we want, we really do, want a; Good looking Pres. and First Lady right? But anyhow; Look what's happened, in the meantime; To how the United States has become: At home and abroad, people wonder; What happened to the "Good 'OLE U.S. of A. What happened is this: Weve lost our "Grace". And We've been disgraced!__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at each other has become the norm. Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think that. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Reuters: [...] FEMA will receive nearly all of the funds approved on Thursday -- $50 billion -- while the Defense Department will get $1.4 billion for its rescue efforts. The Army Corps of Engineers will get $400 million to dredge navigation channels, repair pump stations and levees in New Orleans and repair other projects in Gulf states. It gets ever more-insane. Hey Bush defenders, what's the rationale for THIS one? http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx? type=globalNewsstoryID=2005-09-08T233912Z_01_SPI885129_RTRUKOC_0_US- BUSH-WAGES.xmlarchived=False WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush issued an executive order on Thursday allowing federal contractors rebuilding in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to pay below the prevailing wage. In a notice to Congress, Bush said the hurricane had caused a national emergency that permits him to take such action under the 1931 Davis- Bacon Act in ravaged areas of Alabama, Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi. Bush's action came as the federal government moved to provide billions of dollars in aid, and drew rebukes from two of organized labor's biggest friends in Congress, Rep. George Miller of California and Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts, both Democrats. The administration is using the devastation of Hurricane Katrina to cut the wages of people desperately trying to rebuild their lives and their communities, Miller said. President Bush should immediately realize the colossal mistake he has made in signing this order and rescind it and ensure that America puts its people back to work in the wake of Katrina at wages that will get them and their families back on their feet, Miller said. I regret the president's decision, said Kennedy. One of the things the American people are very concerned about is shabby work and that certainly is true about the families whose houses are going to be rebuilt and buildings that are going to be restored, Kennedy said. The Davis-Bacon law requires federal contractors to pay workers at least the prevailing wages in the area where the work is conducted. It applies to federally funded construction projects such as highways and bridges. Bush's executive order suspends the requirements of the Davis-Bacon law for designated areas hit by the storm. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I met Gurudev yesterday
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was a client...from India...first name: Gurudev. Sikh from the Punjab. Lives in a $1 million home in North West Phoenix. I almost greeted him with a Movement-honed Jai Guru Dev. Naah-nakh? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at each other has become the norm. Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think that. Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post 5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at each other has become the norm. Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think that. Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post 5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598. You idiot.That was post 5743598397. You reversed the last two digits. What are you, dyslexic? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at each other has become the norm. Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think that. Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post 5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598. HA! It is you who is without clue! You left off the ' in doesn't. How can anyone put any faith in what someone says who can't even spell? You are obviously a CIA stooge planted here to foment dissat- isfaction in the TM ranks...we can tell because of your fondness for capital letters...probably a habit developed in a bureaucracy that thinks in acronyms. As I pointed out in my post 3.14159265358979323846, and in several other posts in which I thoroughly demolished your arguments and pointed out the flaws in your logic and exposed your phoniness, your incon- sistency and your lies (not to mention your tiny dick), you are not a relable source of information. Go back to Langley, you rakshasa poo-poo head! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at each other has become the norm. Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think that. Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post 5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598. You idiot.That was post 5743598397. You reversed the last two digits. What are you, dyslexic? Who are you calling dyslexic, you idiot?! You'd better run before I call down the wrath of Dog on you! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting $50 billion - Now FEMA Head Lies-Experience
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FEMA will receive nearly all of the funds approved on Thursday -- $50 billion -- while the Defense Department will get $1.4 billion for its rescue efforts. The Army Corps of Engineers will get $400 million to dredge navigation channels, repair pump stations and levees in New Orleans and repair other projects in Gulf states. Lots coming out on Brown, the head of FEMA, who will be in charge of that $50 billion. As most know, he's been derided as a horse lawyer with no emergency management experience (he was a lawyer for the Arabian Horse Association from which he was ousted). More on his official resume posted at FindLaw: - his law school is not accredited and is regarded as a joke - he states he was on the Dean's List at his college in OK, but the college says NO he never was - he states he was given the award outstanding political science professor at his college, but the college says he was never a professor at all, much less an outstanding one - he states he was Director of a christian nursing home, but the nursing home has never heard of him - he was let go from his first law job, according to his boss there was a feeling that he was not serious and somewhat shallow. and there's more at The New Republic and Time http://tnr.com/user/nregi.mhtml?i=20050919s=campos091905 http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1103003,00.html Even the New Republic is after him!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] God Bless Canada
Canadians Arrived In New Orleans Five Days Before The U.S. Military http://www.halifaxlive.com/artman/publish/canadians_080905_660.shtml Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Another poem (was Re: what a snippy group)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are not a relable source of information. Go back to Langley, you rakshasa poo-poo head! http://tinyurl.com/d4hoc Child Development, by Billy Collins As sure as prehistoric fish grew legs and sauntered off the beaches into forests working up some irregular verbs for their first conversation, so three-year-old children enter the phase of name-calling. Every day a new one arrives and is added to the repertoire. You Dumb Goopyhead, You Big Sewerface, You Poop-on-the-Floor (a kind of Navaho ring to that one) they yell from knee level, their little mugs flushed with challenge. Nothing Samuel Johnson would bother tossing out in a pub, but then the toddlers are not trying to devastate some fatuous Enlightenment hack. They are just tormenting their fellow squirts or going after the attention of the giants way up there with their cocktails and bad breath talking baritone nonsense to other giants, waiting to call them names after thanking them for the lovely party and hearing the door close. The mature save their hothead invective for things: an errant hammer, tire chains, or receding trains missed by seconds, though they know in their adult hearts, even as they threaten to banish Timmy to bed for his appalling behavior, that their bosses are Big Fatty Stupids, their wives are Dopey Dopeheads and that they themselves are Mr. Sillypants. www.bigsnap.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Another poem (was Re: what a snippy group)
Strangely, I probably had a faint memory of this poem somewhere in the back of my mind when I wrote the poo- poo head line. Billy, before he was Poet Laureate, went to the same college I did. We used to get stoned together. He was funny then, and he's funny now. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are not a relable source of information. Go back to Langley, you rakshasa poo-poo head! http://tinyurl.com/d4hoc Child Development, by Billy Collins As sure as prehistoric fish grew legs and sauntered off the beaches into forests working up some irregular verbs for their first conversation, so three-year-old children enter the phase of name-calling. Every day a new one arrives and is added to the repertoire. You Dumb Goopyhead, You Big Sewerface, You Poop-on-the-Floor (a kind of Navaho ring to that one) they yell from knee level, their little mugs flushed with challenge. Nothing Samuel Johnson would bother tossing out in a pub, but then the toddlers are not trying to devastate some fatuous Enlightenment hack. They are just tormenting their fellow squirts or going after the attention of the giants way up there with their cocktails and bad breath talking baritone nonsense to other giants, waiting to call them names after thanking them for the lovely party and hearing the door close. The mature save their hothead invective for things: an errant hammer, tire chains, or receding trains missed by seconds, though they know in their adult hearts, even as they threaten to banish Timmy to bed for his appalling behavior, that their bosses are Big Fatty Stupids, their wives are Dopey Dopeheads and that they themselves are Mr. Sillypants. www.bigsnap.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Another poem (was Re: what a snippy group)
Perfect! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strangely, I probably had a faint memory of this poem somewhere in the back of my mind when I wrote the poo- poo head line. Billy, before he was Poet Laureate, went to the same college I did. We used to get stoned together. He was funny then, and he's funny now. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are not a relable source of information. Go back to Langley, you rakshasa poo-poo head! http://tinyurl.com/d4hoc Child Development, by Billy Collins As sure as prehistoric fish grew legs and sauntered off the beaches into forests working up some irregular verbs for their first conversation, so three-year-old children enter the phase of name-calling. Every day a new one arrives and is added to the repertoire. You Dumb Goopyhead, You Big Sewerface, You Poop-on-the-Floor (a kind of Navaho ring to that one) they yell from knee level, their little mugs flushed with challenge. Nothing Samuel Johnson would bother tossing out in a pub, but then the toddlers are not trying to devastate some fatuous Enlightenment hack. They are just tormenting their fellow squirts or going after the attention of the giants way up there with their cocktails and bad breath talking baritone nonsense to other giants, waiting to call them names after thanking them for the lovely party and hearing the door close. The mature save their hothead invective for things: an errant hammer, tire chains, or receding trains missed by seconds, though they know in their adult hearts, even as they threaten to banish Timmy to bed for his appalling behavior, that their bosses are Big Fatty Stupids, their wives are Dopey Dopeheads and that they themselves are Mr. Sillypants. www.bigsnap.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall
from the New York Times: Some holdouts seem intent on keeping alive the distinct and wild spirit of this city. In the French Quarter, Addie Hall and Zackery Bowen found a unusual way to make sure that police officers regularly patrolled their house. Ms. Hall, 28, a bartender, flashed her breasts at the police vehicles that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic. http://tinyurl.com/dshvd Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from the New York Times: Some holdouts seem intent on keeping alive the distinct and wild spirit of this city. In the French Quarter, Addie Hall and Zackery Bowen found a unusual way to make sure that police officers regularly patrolled their house. Ms. Hall, 28, a bartender, flashed her breasts at the police vehicles that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic. http://tinyurl.com/dshvd Since many police departments, including the one from New Orleans, have a specially-trained unit called the Tactical Assault Team who are on duty in emergency situations such as this one, I think her strategy could be termed tit for TAT. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It gets ever more-insane. Hey Bush defenders, what's the rationale for THIS one? http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx? type=globalNewsstoryID=2005-09- 08T233912Z_01_SPI885129_RTRUKOC_0_US- BUSH-WAGES.xmlarchived=False WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush issued an executive order on Thursday allowing federal contractors rebuilding in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to pay below the prevailing wage. Guess he didn't read the last part of Stossel's piece about the heroic price-gougers: If this were a totalitarian country, the government might just order a bunch of tradesmen to go to New Orleans. But in a free society, those tradesmen must be persuaded to leave their homes and families, leave their employers and customers, and drive from say, Wisconsin, to take work in New Orleans. If they can't make more money in Louisiana than Wisconsin, why would they make the trip? Some may be motivated by a desire to be heroic, but we can't expect enough heroes to fill the need, week after week; most will travel there for the same reason most Americans go to work: to make money. Any tradesman who treks to a disaster area must get higher pay than he would get in his hometown, or he won't do the trek. Limit him to what his New Orleans colleagues charged before the storm, and even a would-be hero may say, the heck with it. If he charges enough to justify his venture, he's likely to be condemned morally or legally by the very people he's trying to help. But they just don't understand basic economics. Force prices down, and you keep suppliers out. Let the market work, suppliers come -- and competition brings prices as low as the challenges of the disaster allow. Goods that were in short supply become available, even to the poor. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Front page of all major newspapers in the world in real time
Title: Front page of all major newspapers in the world in real time Very cool: http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/flash/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here
You've clearly never run even a small corporation, Robert, much less a large one. Otherwise you'd realize what a crushing sense of responsibility that is for any CEO who takes their job seriously. Learn before commenting. Otherwise you sound pretty dumb... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George must think, he's a CEO of a large corporation; And that he's really not responsible for anything: Because in a corporation, you can pass the buck, literally, And quite easily, Right? Robert Gimbel - Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group
LOL!! Great literature in the making... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at each other has become the norm. Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think that. Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post 5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598. HA! It is you who is without clue! You left off the ' in doesn't. How can anyone put any faith in what someone says who can't even spell? You are obviously a CIA stooge planted here to foment dissat- isfaction in the TM ranks...we can tell because of your fondness for capital letters...probably a habit developed in a bureaucracy that thinks in acronyms. As I pointed out in my post 3.14159265358979323846, and in several other posts in which I thoroughly demolished your arguments and pointed out the flaws in your logic and exposed your phoniness, your incon- sistency and your lies (not to mention your tiny dick), you are not a relable source of information. Go back to Langley, you rakshasa poo-poo head! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall
Called putting your assets to good use... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from the New York Times: Some holdouts seem intent on keeping alive the distinct and wild spirit of this city. In the French Quarter, Addie Hall and Zackery Bowen found a unusual way to make sure that police officers regularly patrolled their house. Ms. Hall, 28, a bartender, flashed her breasts at the police vehicles that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic. http://tinyurl.com/dshvd Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
It allows people to be employed who won't have ANY job if high minimum- wage guidelines are enforced. This will be particularly helpful in getting teenagers or early-20s people who have little skills back to at least some useful work. I think it's a great move, and I believe I understand the economics behind it. Is it possible that you oppose it simply because Bush proposed it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It gets ever more-insane. Hey Bush defenders, what's the rationale for THIS one? http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx? type=globalNewsstoryID=2005-09- 08T233912Z_01_SPI885129_RTRUKOC_0_US- BUSH-WAGES.xmlarchived=False WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush issued an executive order on Thursday allowing federal contractors rebuilding in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to pay below the prevailing wage. Guess he didn't read the last part of Stossel's piece about the heroic price-gougers: If this were a totalitarian country, the government might just order a bunch of tradesmen to go to New Orleans. But in a free society, those tradesmen must be persuaded to leave their homes and families, leave their employers and customers, and drive from say, Wisconsin, to take work in New Orleans. If they can't make more money in Louisiana than Wisconsin, why would they make the trip? Some may be motivated by a desire to be heroic, but we can't expect enough heroes to fill the need, week after week; most will travel there for the same reason most Americans go to work: to make money. Any tradesman who treks to a disaster area must get higher pay than he would get in his hometown, or he won't do the trek. Limit him to what his New Orleans colleagues charged before the storm, and even a would-be hero may say, the heck with it. If he charges enough to justify his venture, he's likely to be condemned morally or legally by the very people he's trying to help. But they just don't understand basic economics. Force prices down, and you keep suppliers out. Let the market work, suppliers come -- and competition brings prices as low as the challenges of the disaster allow. Goods that were in short supply become available, even to the poor. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It allows people to be employed who won't have ANY job if high minimum-wage guidelines are enforced. This will be particularly helpful in getting teenagers or early-20s people who have little skills back to at least some useful work. I think it's a great move, and I believe I understand the economics behind it. Is it possible that you oppose it simply because Bush proposed it? Are you asking me, or Sparaig? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It gets ever more-insane. Hey Bush defenders, what's the rationale for THIS one? http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx? type=globalNewsstoryID=2005-09- 08T233912Z_01_SPI885129_RTRUKOC_0_US- BUSH-WAGES.xmlarchived=False WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush issued an executive order on Thursday allowing federal contractors rebuilding in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to pay below the prevailing wage. Guess he didn't read the last part of Stossel's piece about the heroic price-gougers: If this were a totalitarian country, the government might just order a bunch of tradesmen to go to New Orleans. But in a free society, those tradesmen must be persuaded to leave their homes and families, leave their employers and customers, and drive from say, Wisconsin, to take work in New Orleans. If they can't make more money in Louisiana than Wisconsin, why would they make the trip? Some may be motivated by a desire to be heroic, but we can't expect enough heroes to fill the need, week after week; most will travel there for the same reason most Americans go to work: to make money. Any tradesman who treks to a disaster area must get higher pay than he would get in his hometown, or he won't do the trek. Limit him to what his New Orleans colleagues charged before the storm, and even a would-be hero may say, the heck with it. If he charges enough to justify his venture, he's likely to be condemned morally or legally by the very people he's trying to help. But they just don't understand basic economics. Force prices down, and you keep suppliers out. Let the market work, suppliers come -- and competition brings prices as low as the challenges of the disaster allow. Goods that were in short supply become available, even to the poor. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I met Gurudev yesterday
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was a client...from India...first name: Gurudev. Sikh from the Punjab. Lives in a $1 million home in North West Phoenix. I almost greeted him with a Movement-honed Jai Guru Dev. Naah-nakh? No, no pictures of Guru Nanak on the walls that I saw... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting $50 billion - Now FEMA Head Lies-Experience
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FEMA will receive nearly all of the funds approved on Thursday -- $50 billion -- while the Defense Department will get $1.4 billion for its rescue efforts. The Army Corps of Engineers will get $400 million to dredge navigation channels, repair pump stations and levees in New Orleans and repair other projects in Gulf states. Lots coming out on Brown, the head of FEMA, who will be in charge of that $50 billion. As most know, he's been derided as a horse lawyer with no emergency management experience (he was a lawyer for the Arabian Horse Association from which he was ousted). More on his official resume posted at FindLaw: - his law school is not accredited and is regarded as a joke - he states he was on the Dean's List at his college in OK, but the college says NO he never was - he states he was given the award outstanding political science professor at his college, but the college says he was never a professor at all, much less an outstanding one - he states he was Director of a christian nursing home, but the nursing home has never heard of him - he was let go from his first law job, Well, at least that indicates he passed the bar, no? Assuming you can't get a law job without being a lawyer. So how bad could it be getting your law degree at an unaccredited school? according to his boss there was a feeling that he was not serious and somewhat shallow. and there's more at The New Republic and Time http://tnr.com/user/nregi.mhtml?i=20050919s=campos091905 http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1103003,00.html Even the New Republic is after him!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saved Through Dzogchen
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Saved Through Dzogchen Saw this and thought of dear Lhundrub. The Will to Love is the Law to Live - Best Wishes V. The Attitude to Take for Overcoming Natural Disasters His Holiness Penor Rinpoche 7/1/2132--September 4, 2005 The present world is modernized and it is very easy for countries to communicate with each other. This has good -- and bad -- results. Everyone tells their own history and tries to explain events their way, according to internal political or religious pressures. At the same time, many religions exist in this world, as well as many qualified teachers. Anyone who is truly following their religion is thinking about how to solve the problems of this world. Meanwhile, most of the previously realized teachers have already shown us how to solve these problems for all of the beings in the universe. But the times are now degenerating. Some of those following these religions and some who follow certain politics have gotten used to thinking and acting in a negative way. So it will not make a difference whether an individual is a good person or a bad person; we will be caused to suffer from difficulties because of our collective negative thoughts and actions. Of all these negative thoughts and actions, selfishness will create more difficulty than anything else. That is why all the different kinds of religions are based on the benefit of all sentient beings and not focused on selfishness -- no matter what religion. Religions are for the benefit of peace and compassion for sentient beings, especially in the case of Buddhism. For us, we take vows to be helpful for all beings, without exception. We pray that we will not even use the space of one hair in a selfish way. We already see that bad karma has the result of causing suffering. So then, of course, if we behave in a positive way, there will be benefit and fruition. If everyone -- no matter Buddhist or not, whether black or white -- prays and wishes for the same things, for happiness and peace on earth, then definitely things can be solved in a positive way. Floods are the result of an imbalanced water element. There are also imbalances in the earth [such as earthquakes], fire [volcanoes] and air [tornados, typhoons and hurricanes]. If we are all living in harmony in the world, then naturally the elements will be balanced. Once harmonious, no imbalances will arise. [Tr. note: Rinpoche is referring to the example of sentient beings held like the objects in the pot of the elements. Once the inside is in balance, the pot will also be in balance]. When problems arise, like the Tsunami in Asia, or the flood in the United States, I personally feel very sad. It is physically hard to do anything to help. We Tibetans also have recently faced so many problems. For example, for us, Guru Rinpoche and so many high lamas predicted we would encounter the problems we have met. They told us the method and how to solve the problems. But, because of degenerating times, collectively many of us had difficulty believing these predictions, which are hundreds, and sometimes thousands of years old. Because we collectively had difficulty believing in the truth, this came to be a difficult time for the Tibetans. Then, when the result came about, many people said, Oh, we really made a big mistake. And a few even said, Of course this was going to happen because we did not believe this prediction and follow the instructions. So for us Tibetans, when we suffered, we suffered almost like a physical hell. Even still, we never gave up belief in the Three Jewels [Buddha, Dharma and Sangha]. All of these problems are the gathering of karma. [They are the consequences of our previous actions]. There is not anything to rejoice in or to regret because these are not one or two people's results, but all people's results. [Known as gathering or collective karma; Tib: Chin Thun]. Because of our past lifetimes in which we accumulated negative karma collectively, we must all collectively suffer the results. These results cannot be suffered by just one or two people. We know that in the future we don't want this kind of suffering. So it doesn't matter what religion or color, we can build the positive collective karma together by loving each other and having compassion towards all sentient beings. This will make things better in the future so the positive result will come from the positive attitude. COLOPHON May the Guru remain in the world for a long time to come, may the light of His teachings pervade the sky of mind and bring happiness to all. We requested this teaching on the attitude to take in the cases of natural disasters from the compassionate one, Kyabje Drubwang Pema Norbu Rinpoche, who responded to our request with enthusiasm. The teaching was translated by Lama Lobsang Chophel and took place on September 4, 2005. May these efforts serve to awaken the absolute reality of Guru Padmasambhava in the hearts of all beings. To
[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group
anonymousff wrote: I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at each other has become the norm. Well, I guess now you're part of the norm. ROTFL! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'We've Been Disgraced!'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thought he and his wife, try so hard to appear graceful; By wearing the proper clothes washed and well mated. And getting the proper excersize, keeping the heart rate down. All of this for the good of the public image. And image is what we want, we really do, want a; Good looking Pres. and First Lady right? But anyhow; Look what's happened, in the meantime; To how the United States has become: At home and abroad, people wonder; What happened to the Good 'OLE U.S. of A. What happened is this: We've lost our Grace. And We've been disgraced! If you don't like the way things are in this country, why don't you leave and go to a better place? Or, at least vote. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting $50 billion - Now FEMA Head Lies-Experience
markmeredith wrote: Even the New Republic is after him!! So you want to play the blame game? How long has Brown been the Director of FEMA? Another question: Why wasn't New Orleans evacuated BEFORE the storm? Why is this question so difficult for you to answer, Mark? From the New York Times: Apparently Mike Brown was General counsel, then deputy director and finally, since 2003, director of FEMA. He has overseen the response to 164 presidentially declared disasters, he said, including California wildfires, a rash of tornadoes in the Midwest several years ago and the four Florida hurricanes last year. 'Michael DeWayne Brown: Facing Blame in a Disaster' By Scott Shane The New York Times, September 7, 2005 http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/07/national/nationalspecial/07brown.ht ml Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group
TurquoiseB wrote: ...not to mention your tiny dick), Very impressive - but you would know this how, Uncle Tantra? And what exactly, is your head doing up his pants anyway? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall
Patrick Gillam wrote: Ms. Hall, 28, a bartender, flashed her breasts at the police vehicles that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic. From This is London: He told the Liverpool Daily Post: I couldn't describe how bad the authorities were. Just little things like taking photographs of us, as we are standing on the roof waving for help, for their own little snapshot albums. At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel saying 'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what you've got' and made signs for them to lift their T-shirts. When the girls refused, they said 'Fine' and motored off down the road in their boat. 'Penn accuses Bush amid rescue chaos' This is LONDON http://tinyurl.com/95q7b Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...
New Orleans death toll may not be catastrophic Sep 09 12:31 PM US/Eastern NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as first feared, the top Homeland Security official there said on Friday. There's some encouragement in the initial sweeps. Some of the catastrophic deaths some people have predicted may not have occurred, Col. Terry Ebbert, director of Homeland Security for the city of New Orleans said at a news conference. The numbers so far are relatively minor as compared with the dire predictions of 10,000. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
jstein wrote: Guess he didn't read the last part of Stossel's piece about the heroic price-gougers: So now you want to play the Stossel card? So, why didn't the mayor and the governor evacuate the city BEFORE the storm hit? They had an evacuation plan - why didn't they follow it? Why is this question so difficult for you to answer? From the Los Angeles Times: The floodwaters reached the bottom shelf, seeping up through the dense pages. Just a week before the storm, the state had sought a contract to scan and digitize 12 million pages. Read more: 'Lives and History Adrift on a Soggy Paper Trail' By Alan Zarembo and Thomas H. Maugh II The Los Angeles Times, September 9, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/artco Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Saved Through Dzogchen
They did get hit by a quake, Richard. Sometime in the mid-1970's. Killed somewhere between 250,000 and 750,000 people, but was well covered up by the Communist government. Shit happens. Karma happens. Ends up pretty much the same. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: All of these problems are the gathering of karma. So, Vaj, do you agree with the Rinpoche that all the problems in the Katrina castrophe are the fault of the people and their karma? If the theory of karma is real, then why didn't the Chinese get hit by an earthquake, since they decimated the Tibetans? Do you guys actually read this stuff BEFORE you post it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group
Actually, it's good internet etiquette to do a little snipping, so that others don't have to reread the same posts over and over again to get to your point. For example, I've done a little snipping below. I'm sure that you will see that it makes the whole thing much more readable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] w --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [SNIP] Snipping at each other has become the norm. Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think [SNIP] Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! [SNIP] HA! It is you who is without clue! [SNIP] As I pointed out in my post 3.1415[SNIP]846, and in several other posts in which I thoroughly demolished your arguments and pointed out the flaws [SNIP] to Langley [SNIP TO END] *** BTW, after you pointed out the flaws to Langley, what did she [;-] do about it? [SNIP] [SNIP] [SNIP] [SNIP] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saved Through Dzogchen
On 9/9/05 12:49 PM, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: All of these problems are the gathering of karma. So, Vaj, do you agree with the Rinpoche that all the problems in the Katrina castrophe are the fault of the people and their karma? I don't recall him saying ALL the problems were caused by karma, I think you are generalizing. I like the naiveté of imbalanced water element as the cause of floods--hell even a hydrologist or meteorologist might agree with that! If the theory of karma is real, then why didn't the Chinese get hit by an earthquake, since they decimated the Tibetans? Because karma is not a linear or simple phenomenon. Perhaps I should post my obligatory karma FAQ again...even a seed needs certain conditions if it is to spring into manifestation as a plant...karma is more like that. Was this crop of people sharing some common karmic causes? Perhaps. Do you guys actually read this stuff BEFORE you post it? I'm sorry, that's extra. The intent was to send something to Lhundrub which happened to be by someone he cared dearly about, one of his teachers. If he cracks even a dim smile, my intent was served. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?
Comments interspersed Are you suggesting that one should believe that worship of Sri Vidya didn't start until this point in time and that it started as a Buddhist practice? Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not a belief, it's history - the Sri Vidya cult arose at about the same time as the Bengali Shajiyas and the eighty-four mahasiddhas. The Nath cult is the Western Transmission of the Tantric Buddhists - first to Kashmere, then to Tibet, and later to South India. So you are saying that the practice of this knowledge of Sri Vidya didn't exist prior? Lord Hayagriva at the command of Lalita Devi gave this knowledge of Sri Vidya to Rishi Agastya and was made responsible for revealing TRUE WORSHIP of Mother through it. Rishi Agastya taught the Sri Vidya to Guadapada, who passed it on to Govinda, who taught it to Shankara who installed the Sri Chakra and then composed the Saundaryalari for our understanding. There is no higher knowledge that Sri Vidya, the Auspicious Wisdom. No higher knowledge, indeed. Sri Mata Rajarajeshwari rules it. http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/tours/2003/vijayawada_devi_temple/feb6/feb6.html According to Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji of Mysore, India Liberation from the cycle of birth and death does not result through Tantra practices. All the Shankaracharyas practice tantric techniques. We do not know exactly why or when the Shankarites adopted Shaktism, we only know that at some point in time, they did so. There is someone who knows. The tantras are for everyone they are the only means of liberation in this age. Strong statement. Believe what you will. The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru. Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji of Mysore, India is revered throughout India and by Shankaracharyas as well as the foremost exponent of Sri Vidya and Worship of Mother. From His mouth these ears heard the following words,Practice of tantra keeps one tied to the earth, Swamiji's way is Vedic way not tantric. http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/festivals/navaratri2003/navaratri2003.html He has put the entire knowledge of Sri Chakra into the cd entitled Tripura for everyone to benefit. It is beautiful. People nowadays can't read or write Sanskrit and thus they can't access the scriptures; This is not true. real gurus are hard to find; This is true. REAL gurus find their devotees at the proper time. and hardly anyone gets a shaktipat anymore; all we have now are the tantric techniques. Again believe what you will. So, from the above observations, it is probable that Guru Dev meditated on bija-mantras contained within the Sri Yantra, a diagram or mnemonic device for transcending. Does anyone here really believe that Sri Brahmananda Saraswati Jagadguru of Jyotir Math as the living example of Veda had to meditate on anything? Everyone meditates on something - that's why they call it meditation. Point is what is to meditate upon when Fullness is the reality? Then again, what do I know. But we have an eyewitness account, Swami Rama of the Himalayas, who met Brahmanand Saraswati in the Vindhya mountains one time. In his book, Living With the Himalayan Masters, Swami Rama recounts how Brahmananda showed him a Sri Yantra and explained the Sri Vidya to him. So, we have an eyewitness account by Swami Rama; we have the fact that Brahmanand's guru was Swami Krishanand Saraswati of Sringeri; we have the fact that the Sringeri matha, founded by Shankara, is the seat of the Sri Chakra; and we have the Saundaryalahari composed by Shankaracharya, which describes the worship of Tripurasundari and enumerates the Sri Vidya bija-mantras. So, yes I do believe, based on the available evidence, that Swami Brahmanand Saraswati probably meditated on the Sri Chakra, just like all of the other Dasanamai Saraswati Sannyasins do. This I do not doubt. Does it mean that an ordinary Joe gains liberation from performing this puja? It is doubtful that anyone but these swamis can properly perform such, and if a Joe attempted would likely bring about more disasterous results than positive. Here is a verse from Shankara's Guru Ashtakam with commentary from Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji Shadangaadhi Vedo Mukhe Shastra Vidhyaa Kavitva aadhi Gadhyam Supadhyam Karoti Guro Ranghri Padme Manasche Na Lagnam Tatah kim Tatah kim Tatah kim Tatah kim Shadangas, Vedas, Shastras, many studies are on the tip of one's tongue. He can lecture on them eloquently. He can instantaneously say poetry. He gets many praises and titles. His mind doesn't set at the feet of Guru. Then what is the use? All these are a waste. Hari Om Tat Sat Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM
[FairfieldLife] White upper-class elitist overthrows Black President
How politically-incorrect is that? Yet that is precisely what happened in Cuba, despite what Hollywood would have you believe. Both Sidney Pollack (Havana) and Francis Ford Coppola (Godfather II) portrayed Fulgencio Batista as white Hispanics, yet Batista was a black Hispanic http://images.google.com/images? svnum=10hl=enc2coff=1q=fulgencio+batistaspell=1 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?
So you are saying that the practice of this knowledge of Sri Vidya didn't exist prior? Sri Vidya, the Audicious Wisdom, has existed since the dawn of human conciousness, however as a tantric cult it dates from the eight century in India durng the time of the Sahajyas and mahasiddhas. The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru. That's tantra - but it's very difficult to find a true guru in this age, that's why the tantras were prepared and desciminated. From His mouth these ears heard the following words,Practice of tantra keeps one tied to the earth, Swamiji's way is Vedic way not tantric. So, Swamiji doesn't agree with the Shankaracharya of Sringeri? People nowadays can't read or write Sanskrit and thus they can't access the scriptures; This is not true. So you're a Sanskrit reader and you can read the tantras. Why then would you need a guru if you're already literate? real gurus are hard to find; This is true. REAL gurus find their devotees at the proper time. and hardly anyone gets a shaktipat anymore; all we have now are the tantric techniques. Again believe what you will. Everyone meditates on something - that's why they call it meditation. Point is what is to meditate upon when Fullness is the reality? According to Shankaracharya of Sringeri, sadhaks should meditate on the Sri Vidya bija-mantras. Then again, what do I know. So, yes I do believe, based on the available evidence, that Swami Brahmanand Saraswati probably meditated on the Sri Chakra, just like all of the other Dasanamai Saraswati Sannyasins do. This I do not doubt. Does it mean that an ordinary Joe gains liberation from performing this puja? Meditation and puja or any other technique does not bring liberation - they only provide the opportunity for transcending. It is doubtful that anyone but these swamis can properly perform such, and if a Joe attempted would likely bring about more disasterous results than positive. Anyone who can think can meditate using the tantric bija-mantras. His mind doesn't set at the feet of Guru. Then what is the use? All these are a waste. Most of us don't live in India, therefore we can't sit at the feet of your Swamiji and get the shaktipat. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...
Cliff wrote: The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as first feared..., But for weeks now we've been told by the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisinana that the death toll could reach into the thousands - the worst storm to ever hit the U.S.A. What's the death toll now and how does that compare with previous hurricanes to hit the mainland? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at each other has become the norm. Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think that. Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post 5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598. You idiot.That was post 5743598397. You reversed the last two digits. What are you, dyslexic? Who are you calling dyslexic, you idiot?! You'd better run before I call down the wrath of Dog on you! And here I thought it was because it was Yat Suga. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
jstein wrote: Are you asking me, or Sparaig? I'm asking both of you - why aren't you reporting that the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security wouldn't let the Red Cross and the Salvation Army in to take food and water to the people stranded at the Superdome in New Orleans? Why are you withholding information from the group? You seem to have plenty of time on your hands. From Radio Blogger: MG: But they couldn't get in to meet those needs. They asked to get in. They were prepared with their...the Salvation Army has these ever-familiar portable kitchen canteens, is what they call them. They can actually make food, produce food on spot, and distribute it there. People line up. We've seen that at hurricanes and other natural disasters. They were ready. Not allowed in. At first, it was this idea that we don't want to create a magnet at the evacuation site. Secondarily, it became an issue of well, there's lots of water, and we can't assure your safety, so on and so forth. Here's another key point, Hugh. I was very specific with the American Red Cross, president and CEO Marty Evans, and said wait. Tell me clearly. Were you prepared to go in before the levees broke? Before water became an issue of any kind? She said absolutely. Were you denied access before the levees broke? She said we were denied access from minute one. Read more: Major Garrett updates us on the Red Cross AND the Salvation Army being blocked from helping by Louisiana state officials: http://www.radioblogger.com/#000970 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?
The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru. Believe what you will. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: White upper-class elitist overthrows Black President
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How politically-incorrect is that? Yet that is precisely what happened in Cuba, despite what Hollywood would have you believe. Both Sidney Pollack (Havana) and Francis Ford Coppola (Godfather II) portrayed Fulgencio Batista as white Hispanics, yet Batista was a black Hispanic http://images.google.com/images? svnum=10hl=enc2coff=1q=fulgencio+batistaspell=1 http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Archives/CA_Show_Article/0,2322,217,00.html Excerpts The Batista-Lansky Alliance How the mafia and a Cuban dictator built Havana's casinos By Matthew Reiss It was December 31, 1958. Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista raised a New Year's Eve toast to his cabinet members and senior military officers and wished them hasta la vista. After seven years of building Havana's tourism industry by inviting gangsters such as Meyer Lansky to construct casinos, helping to fund their enterprises and taking a large chunk of the proceeds for himself, Batista knew his presidency was over. His plundering had weakened Cuba's treasury and demoralized the army. He filled three cargo planes with all he could carry and was on his way to the Dominican Republic before the sun came up on 1959. ...But while Castro could close the casinos, arrest the gangsters and deport or imprison Batista's henchmen, he could not bury the skyscrapers that had drained the wealth of the island. Castro inherited from Batista a Havana of overt poverty and ostentatious wealth, where the haves of the world's richest nations had come to exploit the have-nots; where statues of Lenin and Marx would be dwarfed by glass and stone monuments to the Mob; where the nation's architectural landmarks would be a constant reminder of the days when criminals were in charge and the Mafia roamed free. ... But until that last day of 1958, the only revolution that mattered to Mafia financier Lansky involved a roulette wheel. During the Batista years, Cuba was a place where a crooked man could make an honest living. After a half century on the wrong side of the law in the United States, the celebrated gangster was legit. America's high rollers and celebrities were living large in the casino of Lansky's luxury hotel, the Riviera, and the drinks were on the house. In the mid-1930s, a Cuban army sergeant named Fulgencio Batista took advantage of political chaos in the former Spanish colony and formed his own government. At the time, the island republic was foundering, as was its gambling industry. Years before, Havana's nightlife had attracted wealthy entertainers from the United States, such as Sarah Bernhardt and Enrico Caruso. But Cuba's gaming industry had become mired in cheating and corruption by the 1930s. So, in 1939, Batista recruited a New England racetrack owner named Lou Smith to revive Havana's Oriental Park track and Meyer Lansky to clean up the casinos. Two months before the 1952 presidential elections, Batista snatched control of the government that he had relinquished, and quickly put gambling back on track. Once again, the dictator contacted Lansky, but this time he gave him an annual salary of $25,000 to serve as an unofficial gambling minister. In 1955, the Batista government passed a law granting a gaming license to anyone who invested $1 million in a hotel or $200,000 in a new nightclub. And that meant anyone. Unlike the procedure for acquiring gaming licenses in Vegas, this provision exempted venture capitalists from background checks. As long as they made the required investment, they were provided with public matching funds for construction, a 10-year tax exemption and duty-free importation of equipment and furnishings. Although Batista's ostensible aim was to create new jobs, he gutted the labor laws to allow casino owners to bring their American croupiers. Under the Batista-Lansky administration, Havana was ripe for foreign investment, especially for the glut of illegal earnings that Lansky and his cronies had accumulated from bootlegging, numbers and other rackets. The FBI was developing new ways of tracking down dirty money; to gangsters with loads of tainted cash, Havana looked like a stable offshore depository. The climate was so attractive that Lansky decided to build his own hotel, the Riviera, on the Malecón, Havana's wide boulevard along the seawall. In 1957 it rose over the horizon like a beacon, advertising the city as a refuge from the law. ... During the same period, however, the people of Cuba suffered. Government corruption was endemic, while in Havana's streets prostitution and poverty were rampant. In the countryside, the peasants were suffering as well; Batista poured the nation's wealth into the capital. He gave the gangsters millions in government funds for hotel construction and spent millions more reclaiming valuable waterfront real estate from the sea. Construction of Lansky's Riviera went for about $18 million, while the Hotel
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jstein wrote: Are you asking me, or Sparaig? I'm asking both of you No, I was asking Cliff who he was asking, not you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: White upper-class elitist overthrows Black President
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How politically-incorrect is that? Yet that is precisely what happened in Cuba, despite what Hollywood would have you believe. Both Sidney Pollack (Havana) and Francis Ford Coppola (Godfather II) portrayed Fulgencio Batista as white Hispanics, yet Batista was a black Hispanic http://images.google.com/images? svnum=10hl=enc2coff=1q=fulgencio+batistaspell=1 Interesting article, Akasha. The first part, however, contrasts sharply with the last part. http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Archives/CA_Show_Article/0,23 22,217,00.html Excerpts The Batista-Lansky Alliance How the mafia and a Cuban dictator built Havana's casinos By Matthew Reiss It was December 31, 1958. Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista raised a New Year's Eve toast to his cabinet members and senior military officers and wished them hasta la vista. After seven years of building Havana's tourism industry by inviting gangsters such as Meyer Lansky to construct casinos, helping to fund their enterprises and taking a large chunk of the proceeds for himself, Batista knew his presidency was over. His plundering had weakened Cuba's treasury and demoralized the army. He filled three cargo planes with all he could carry and was on his way to the Dominican Republic before the sun came up on 1959. ...But while Castro could close the casinos, arrest the gangsters and deport or imprison Batista's henchmen, he could not bury the skyscrapers that had drained the wealth of the island. Castro inherited from Batista a Havana of overt poverty and ostentatious wealth, where the haves of the world's richest nations had come to exploit the have-nots; where statues of Lenin and Marx would be dwarfed by glass and stone monuments to the Mob; where the nation's architectural landmarks would be a constant reminder of the days when criminals were in charge and the Mafia roamed free. ... But until that last day of 1958, the only revolution that mattered to Mafia financier Lansky involved a roulette wheel. During the Batista years, Cuba was a place where a crooked man could make an honest living. After a half century on the wrong side of the law in the United States, the celebrated gangster was legit. America's high rollers and celebrities were living large in the casino of Lansky's luxury hotel, the Riviera, and the drinks were on the house. In the mid-1930s, a Cuban army sergeant named Fulgencio Batista took advantage of political chaos in the former Spanish colony and formed his own government. At the time, the island republic was foundering, as was its gambling industry. Years before, Havana's nightlife had attracted wealthy entertainers from the United States, such as Sarah Bernhardt and Enrico Caruso. But Cuba's gaming industry had become mired in cheating and corruption by the 1930s. So, in 1939, Batista recruited a New England racetrack owner named Lou Smith to revive Havana's Oriental Park track and Meyer Lansky to clean up the casinos. Two months before the 1952 presidential elections, Batista snatched control of the government that he had relinquished, and quickly put gambling back on track. Once again, the dictator contacted Lansky, but this time he gave him an annual salary of $25,000 to serve as an unofficial gambling minister. In 1955, the Batista government passed a law granting a gaming license to anyone who invested $1 million in a hotel or $200,000 in a new nightclub. And that meant anyone. Unlike the procedure for acquiring gaming licenses in Vegas, this provision exempted venture capitalists from background checks. As long as they made the required investment, they were provided with public matching funds for construction, a 10-year tax exemption and duty-free importation of equipment and furnishings. Although Batista's ostensible aim was to create new jobs, he gutted the labor laws to allow casino owners to bring their American croupiers. Under the Batista-Lansky administration, Havana was ripe for foreign investment, especially for the glut of illegal earnings that Lansky and his cronies had accumulated from bootlegging, numbers and other rackets. The FBI was developing new ways of tracking down dirty money; to gangsters with loads of tainted cash, Havana looked like a stable offshore depository. The climate was so attractive that Lansky decided to build his own hotel, the Riviera, on the Malecón, Havana's wide boulevard along the seawall. In 1957 it rose over the horizon like a beacon, advertising the city as a refuge from the law. ... During the same period, however, the people of Cuba suffered. Government corruption was endemic, while in Havana's streets prostitution and poverty were rampant. In the countryside, the peasants
[FairfieldLife] Re: White upper-class elitist overthrows Black President
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How politically-incorrect is that? Yet that is precisely what happened in Cuba, despite what Hollywood would have you believe. Both Sidney Pollack (Havana) and Francis Ford Coppola (Godfather II) portrayed Fulgencio Batista as white Hispanics, yet Batista was a black Hispanic http://images.google.com/images? svnum=10hl=enc2coff=1q=fulgencio+batistaspell=1 More articles on Bastista and his regime http://cuban-exile.com/doc_176-200/doc0190.html Batista's brother-in-law controlled all 10,000 slot machines in Cuba, which contributed million to the regime's bank account. The slot machines, symbols of the ousted leader, were especially sought out by the mobs. The government was to get $25,000 for license plus twenty percent of the profits from each casino. What Batista and the in group got has never been certified. It was rumored that to get a license a fee for $250,000 and sometimes more was required under the table. Periodic payoffs were requested and received by the corrupt politicians. http://www.laprensa-sandiego.org/archieve/oct15/cuba2.htm With the U.S. government's full support, including arms, bombers, and fighter planes, Batista's forces fought to suppress the revolution and, during the course of the war, killed almost 20,000 Cubans. But the Cuban people had had enough of Batista, the Mafia, political corruption, tortures, and murders as well as the U.S. government's support of it all. The Cuban poor joined up with Castro's forces. http://www.thescreamonline.com/essays/essays4-1/batista.html THE COVER OF TIME MAGAZINE (April 9, 1952) showed a photo of Batista with a Cuban flag behind him, and the caption: Cuba's Batista: he got past Democracy's sentries. Ironically, that was not the first time that Batista had bypassed the process of Democracy, with the full blessing and encouragement of its self-appointed guardians. Twenty years earlier Batista had become the strongman that would come to symbolize the heart and soul of Roosevelt's Good Neighbor Policy. ... Batista opened the way for large-scale gambling in Havana, and he reorganized the Cuban state so that he and his political appointees could harvest the nation's riches. He announced that his government would match, dollar for dollar, any hotel investment over $1 million, which would include a casino license, and Lansky became the center of the entire Cuban gambling operation. ... Due to popular unrest, and to apiece his U.S. friends, Batista held a mock election in which he was the only legal candidate. He won, becoming president of Cuba in 1954. Cubans, however, had learned not to trust him, and were demanding new, legitimate elections. ... By late 1955 student riots and anti-Batista demonstration had become frequent. These were dealt with in the violent manner his military police had come to represent. Students attempting to march from the University of Havana were stopped and beaten by the police, and student leader José A. Echeverría had to be hospitalized. Another popular student leader was killed on December 10, leading to a funeral that became a gigantic political protest with a 5-minute nationwide work stoppage. Instead of loosening his grip, Batista suspended constitutional guarantees and established tighter censorship of the media. His military police would patrol the streets and pick up anyone suspected of insurrection. By the end of 1955 they had grown more prone to violent acts of brutality and torture, with no fear of legal repercussions. http://www.fff.org/freedom/0599a.asp Before the Cuban revolution, Cuba's mercantilist economic system was similar to those found in other Latin American countries, with the state controlling, regulating, and taxing economic activity for the benefit of those who were politically privileged. Today, the term would be crony capitalism. ... Among Batista's favorite cronies were Mafia bosses, who moved their operations to Havana when their casinos in Florida were shut down. With Batista's full blessing and assistance, the Mafia made Cuba its base of operations, not only for gambling, but for heroin and cocaine distribution into the United States as well. Of course, the Mafia bosses, in turn, kicked back nice sums of money to Batista. Batista was the U.S. government's man in Havana, even though U.S. officials knew that he was a brutal, antidemocratic, corrupt tyrant in full partnership with Mafia murderers and drug dealers. None of this mattered to Washington policymakers. What mattered was that as our man in Havana, when Batista received orders from Washington, he obeyed. http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/sw/sw33/pgs_20-30/cuba.html Batista formed a partnership with the Mafia. Ciudad La Habana became the best little narco-trafficking base, money laundering center, and whorehouse in the Caribbean. So
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
Note: forwarded message attached. The Luck of the World Global Press Conference, 24.8.05 MAHARISHI: ...sometimes we begin to feel to be angry on these people (government). Then we compromise and say, those who can not think properly how can we be angry on them. Their brain is functioning distorted. So how can we be angry on them. They have been drugged in their early stages. They are not eating proper food. In the name of medicine they are eating poison for new diseases to come up. How you can expect them to be sensible to themselves or sensible to others... So the conclusion in my mind is, do what we ourselves can do. Do what we can do and don`t think much of anything. Whatever coherence we can create in any country, that will be our contribution for creating that coherence in the national consciousness. Governments are not in the position to hear... We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying to gather (big groups) very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow us to light the big lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness simply disappears. It is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But still I am hopeful. I am continuing... It is not necessary to be angry on them because, if a man is rushing on to the hell, you can`t stop him. He is running and rushing to get into the gates of hell. What you can do? But inform him before he starts in that direction. Tell him you are divine inside, you are cosmic inside, you are universal inside. Your soul is a unified field. You are bliss inside. You are a flow of bliss. You are a flow of total Natural Law. You are invincible. You are powerful. You are integrated... It is just a matter of the total atmosphere which has a great influence on the individual. And the total atmosphere we are aiming at, purifying the total atmosphere. Harmony, positivity in the national consciousness of every country, in the world consciousness. Big groups, big groups. And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. But it is enjoyable, this way or that way. We are on the right way. Maryanne Lee-Hartman __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- The Luck of the World Global Press Conference, 24.8.05 MAHARISHI: ...sometimes we begin to feel to be angry on these people (government). Then we compromise and say, those who can not think properly how can we be angry on them. Their brain is functioning distorted. So how can we be angry on them. They have been drugged in their early stages. They are not eating proper food. In the name of medicine they are eating poison for new diseases to come up. How you can expect them to be sensible to themselves or sensible to others... So the conclusion in my mind is, do what we ourselves can do. Do what we can do and don`t think much of anything. Whatever coherence we can create in any country, that will be our contribution for creating that coherence in the national consciousness. Governments are not in the position to hear... We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying to gather (big groups) very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow us to light the big lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness simply disappears. It is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But still I am hopeful. I am continuing... It is not necessary to be angry on them because, if a man is rushing on to the hell, you can`t stop him. He is running and rushing to get into the gates of hell. What you can do? But inform him before he starts in that direction. Tell him you are divine inside, you are cosmic inside, you are universal inside. Your soul is a unified field. You are bliss inside. You are a flow of bliss. You are a flow of total Natural Law. You are invincible. You are powerful. You are integrated... It is just a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness of pundits matters
The guy admits to being a racist. He admits that his politics come straight out of the Aryan Nation. So what? What are the rest of you, the members of this snake pit called FFL? Don't bother calling me a racist. I proclaim that I am one. Now what are you going to do about it? Call me on it? I am proud to proclaim that I am one. Do you think calling me one discredits anything else I write in this snake pit? It certainly doesn't shame me to call me what I freely admit to being. Proudly admit to being. So let me get this straight Tom. In this forum of about 1,000 members of FFL, you are saying Yes, I hate Jews, I hate Blacks and other minorities. I'm glad for the suffering in New Orleans and it is a shame that the whole place wasn't wiped off the earth with all its inhabitants. That is what you are saying proudly? When you see photos of kids who lost their parents and parents who lost their kids in the flood, you feel what.a little compassion for their pain, or that they got what they deserved? Admittedly I don't know much about yagyas, yajnas, or whatever. But I know they are a form of prayer. I'm just wondering how you have the balls to ask god in whatever form you believe in, to help you, to support your life and what you want to make of it. A word of advice Tom, keep your head down and don't go out when there is a chance of lightning. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. The Luck of the World Global Press Conference, 24.8.05 MAHARISHI: We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying to gather (big groups) very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow us to light the big lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness simply disappears. It is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But still I am hopeful. I am continuing... Well gee, Maharishi. MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T STEAL ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO YOUR PUNDIT PROJECTS, BIG GROUPS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN TOGETHER. I love you MMY, but you're a big ass con artist and crook. Let's call a spade a spade, okay? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
---Peter wrote: --- Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. The Luck of the World Global Press Conference, 24.8.05 MAHARISHI: We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying to gather (big groups) very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow us to light the big lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness simply disappears. It is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But still I am hopeful. I am continuing... Well gee, Maharishi. MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T STEAL ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO YOUR PUNDIT PROJECTS, BIG GROUPS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN TOGETHER. Funny, but I've never consider the ethical or karmic ramifications of Maharishi's nephews skimming all that money for their own purposes. In Maharishi's universe, where entire nations are subject to instant karma, shouldn't the nephews be burning in hell or something? If they're not suffering, can we presume that (1) karma isn't instant, or (2) they didn't take the money? - Patrick Gillam Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you are saying that the practice of this knowledge of Sri Vidya didn't exist prior? Sri Vidya, the Audicious Wisdom, has existed since the dawn of human conciousness, however as a tantric cult it dates from the eight century in India durng the time of the Sahajyas and mahasiddhas. The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru. That's tantra - but it's very difficult to find a true guru in this age, that's why the tantras were prepared and desciminated. There is a TRUE guru walking the planet. The Adiguru Lord Dattatreya's Avatara Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji. Greater scholars than those perported in this forum have attempted to prove otherwise. Wanna make and attempt? Dattatreya must be familiar to you? From His mouth these ears heard the following words,Practice of tantra keeps one tied to the earth, Swamiji's way is Vedic way not tantric. So, Swamiji doesn't agree with the Shankaracharya of Sringeri? You can read for yourself what the Shankaracharya of Sringeri said when the Shankaracharya visited Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji in Mysore. Note who visited who. http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/latest/2002/april/sringeri/report.htm People nowadays can't read or write Sanskrit and thus they can't access the scriptures; This is not true. So you're a Sanskrit reader and you can read the tantras. Why then would you need a guru if you're already literate? The answer I gave does not make the claim that I could read Sanskrit. I do see written above your claim that people can't read it. According to Shankara one needs initiation from Guru in order to gain liberation. real gurus are hard to find; This is true. REAL gurus find their devotees at the proper time. and hardly anyone gets a shaktipat anymore; all we have now are the tantric techniques. Again believe what you will. Everyone meditates on something - that's why they call it meditation. Point is what is to meditate upon when Fullness is the reality? According to Shankaracharya of Sringeri, sadhaks should meditate on the Sri Vidya bija-mantras. I thought we were talking about Sri Brahamananda Saraswati's meditations. No denial about the sadhakas. Then again, what do I know. So, yes I do believe, based on the available evidence, that Swami Brahmanand Saraswati probably meditated on the Sri Chakra, just like all of the other Dasanamai Saraswati Sannyasins do. This I do not doubt. Does it mean that an ordinary Joe gains liberation from performing this puja? Meditation and puja or any other technique does not bring liberation - they only provide the opportunity for transcending. It is doubtful that anyone but these swamis can properly perform such, and if a Joe attempted would likely bring about more disasterous results than positive. Anyone who can think can meditate using the tantric bija-mantras. Again, the point was about proper (improper) performance of puja and not meditating. His mind doesn't set at the feet of Guru. Then what is the use? All these are a waste. Most of us don't live in India, therefore we can't sit at the feet of your Swamiji and get the shaktipat. Your statement is a very revealing one. Guru cannot be limited to the physical form. The sloka says: His mind doesn't set at the feet of Guru. Sri Swamiji has been around the world over 65 times. It wasn't in India where He became available to this sadhaka. He is available through His music and thousands of songs containing these bijas to which you refer. His music is most beautiful, His voice divine, so many songs to Devi. Tantra...Veda... the line is definitely very very thin. Dattatreya's ways are very tricky and not for everyone. Jaya Guru Datta Hari Om Tat Sat Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. snip And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. In the excerpt above, can anyone please explain to me what MMY is talking about when he says, We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic...? Sounds crazy to me. And the whole tone of the message seems like he is protecting the incompetence of those in his movement. Or am I missing something? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here
From what I've seen it is pretty difficult to manage a company much larger than 200. Beyond that things seem to spin out of control. However, we seem to have lots of fools and megalomaniacs that are willing to attempt the chore. Cliff wrote: You've clearly never run even a small corporation, Robert, much less a large one. Otherwise you'd realize what a crushing sense of responsibility that is for any CEO who takes their job seriously. Learn before commenting. Otherwise you sound pretty dumb... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George must think, he's a CEO of a large corporation; And that he's really not responsible for anything: Because in a corporation, you can pass the buck, literally, And quite easily, Right? Robert Gimbel - Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...
That's been my point for a while - touting HUGE numbers of deaths is a great political play, particularly when you're trying desperately to point the blame finger away from yourself. More input: Katrina death toll still a question Sep 8, 10:34 PM (ET) By Jim Loney BATON ROUGE, La., Sept 8 - Estimates of the death toll from Hurricane Katrina have run as high as 10,000 but the actual body count so far is much lower and officials who feared the worst now hope the dire predictions were wrong. The recovery of Katrina's victims speeded up in the last two days. As of Thursday, Mississippi had recorded 201 deaths and Louisiana 118, while other affected states had much lower numbers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cliff wrote: The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as first feared..., But for weeks now we've been told by the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisinana that the death toll could reach into the thousands - the worst storm to ever hit the U.S.A. What's the death toll now and how does that compare with previous hurricanes to hit the mainland? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?
As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now is, And would it possibly have been a Guru who wrote that? Then, Was he asking for donations in the next breath? Sorry - the universe is too vast for there to be an only means. And the Divine is too compassionate for there to be just one way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tazarmfune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now is, And would it possibly have been a Guru who wrote that? Then, Was he asking for donations in the next breath? Sorry - the universe is too vast for there to be an only means. And the Divine is too compassionate for there to be just one way. Well said. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tazarmfune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. snip And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. In the excerpt above, can anyone please explain to me what MMY is talking about when he says, We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic...? Sounds crazy to me. Caught my eye too. I suspect it's one of his quasi-gnomic statements that's open to multiple interpretations. The way I read it, he's saying there's an explanation that makes sense (the logic), but at the same time, in characterizing it as hiding, he's also suggesting that it's an excuse. As in: Some of you are mature enough to take responsibility for the failure without being crushed, and you don't need the excuse; those of you who who aren't that mature, here's something you can hide behind. And the whole tone of the message seems like he is protecting the incompetence of those in his movement. Or am I missing something? He's being more explicit about the failure than I've seen before, actually, but for whatever reason he's not lambasting the teachers for it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. snip And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. In the excerpt above, can anyone please explain to me what MMY is talking about when he says, We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic...? Sounds crazy to me. Caught my eye too. I suspect it's one of his quasi-gnomic statements that's open to multiple interpretations. The way I read it, he's saying there's an explanation that makes sense (the logic), but at the same time, in characterizing it as hiding, he's also suggesting that it's an excuse. As in: Some of you are mature enough to take responsibility for the failure without being crushed, and you don't need the excuse; those of you who who aren't that mature, here's something you can hide behind. And the whole tone of the message seems like he is protecting the incompetence of those in his movement. Or am I missing something? He's being more explicit about the failure than I've seen before, actually, but for whatever reason he's not lambasting the teachers for it. Benevolent of him, since the failure is his. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
No one has ever said karma is instant that I recall hearing, and in any case, all actions are possible to justify if one tries hard enough. *Well, since you all are so stupid as to keep giving us money when we've clearly lied to you over and over again, we don't get bad karma from doing this. We're just the agents of your own karma trying to teach you to pay attention and quit believing con men and frauds. We promise that once you finally wake up and figure out what's been happening that we won't ever do it again.* *But we will keep the money.* *Part of the process of making sure you REALLY understand the lesson...* --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Peter wrote: --- Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. The Luck of the World Global Press Conference, 24.8.05 MAHARISHI: We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying to gather (big groups) very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow us to light the big lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness simply disappears. It is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But still I am hopeful. I am continuing... Well gee, Maharishi. MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T STEAL ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO YOUR PUNDIT PROJECTS, BIG GROUPS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN TOGETHER. Funny, but I've never consider the ethical or karmic ramifications of Maharishi's nephews skimming all that money for their own purposes. In Maharishi's universe, where entire nations are subject to instant karma, shouldn't the nephews be burning in hell or something? If they're not suffering, can we presume that (1) karma isn't instant, or (2) they didn't take the money? - Patrick Gillam Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'All Television Networks/Will Carry Live Concert, Tonight 8:00pm EDT'
Could be a very emotional experience! And good harmony, hopefully.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here
There are many corporations of much larger than 200 people who can trace their existence back hundreds of years. Your implication that only a *fool* or a *megalomaniac* would ever take on the task of leading such an entity betrays your intense anti-business bias, I would suggest, and has very little to do with reality. If big business is so horrible and run by such truly awful people, why do you drive a car? Why do you fly in airplanes? Why do you use dish-washers and vacuum cleaners? Why do you shop in grocery stores rather than pluck your own weeds? Every day you willingly, gladly and completely unthink- ingly use thousands of products which could only have been produced by long-lived, stable, efficient companies of vastly more than 200 people. Bashing big business is so sophomoric. You would prefer the Middle Ages, I assume? For what - the fresh air? Outside of cities, perhaps, but the stench and filth in cities came WAY before big business. For the educational opportunities? Big smile on that one. For the simplicity of life? Well, 80% of people dying by age 5 and most of the rest dying by age 30 does cut down on the number of choices one has to make, so life was simpler in that respect. Yes, there are many examples of bad apples in big business. There are even more examples of bad apples who are loners. So what? Look what you choose by essentially every action you take, including looking at this website which involves the intense cooperation of hundreds of different large business entities, and see what your actions say about your feelings. Drop the posturing, please. It's sort of like Maharishi nattering on about how horrible western medicine is when he would have died multiple times already without it. Totally undercuts the argument. There is ALWAYS something that can be improved in any situation. Always. I think that focusing on that makes way more sense than bitching about things that obviously work so well that you perpetually choose them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've seen it is pretty difficult to manage a company much larger than 200. Beyond that things seem to spin out of control. However, we seem to have lots of fools and megalomaniacs that are willing to attempt the chore. Cliff wrote: You've clearly never run even a small corporation, Robert, much less a large one. Otherwise you'd realize what a crushing sense of responsibility that is for any CEO who takes their job seriously. Learn before commenting. Otherwise you sound pretty dumb... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George must think, he's a CEO of a large corporation; And that he's really not responsible for anything: Because in a corporation, you can pass the buck, literally, And quite easily, Right? Robert Gimbel - Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Fw: Founders Day September 12, 2005
Title: Founders Day September 12, 2005 . Dear Alumni and Friends,This Monday marks the 34th anniversary of the founding of Maharishi University of Management and as many of us remember, Maharishi International University. How can we ever begin to thank Maharishi for all the love, precious wisdom, and great patience he has bestowed upon us throughout the years?Let's celebrate together this coming Monday evening, September 12. Plans are still in the works. We are hopeful to connect with Holland or at least have some inspirational words. Locally, I would like to invite all those who wish to share in the "yagya" of thanksgiving to our Founder, to help bake sweets and treats and bring them to the Dome Monday evening, bring flowers or plants to help decorate the stage, and any other ideas you may have. Maharishi had organized such a magnificent celebration of thanks honoring Guru Dev this recent Guru Purnima Celebration that it would be so wonderful to return that thanks to Maharishi. Please call me or email me with your thoughts and let's all plan a beautiful evening together, beginning with large group program.Jai Guru DevJennine Fellmer[EMAIL PROTECTED]641-470-1349 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here
So you're a big business apologist. :) Cliff wrote: There are many corporations of much larger than 200 people who can trace their existence back hundreds of years. Your implication that only a *fool* or a *megalomaniac* would ever take on the task of leading such an entity betrays your intense anti-business bias, I would suggest, and has very little to do with reality. I've been a manager in company, have you? I know the reality very well. Company size was an issue of intense discussion. We watched as the company CEO fell out of control when it was taken public and grew to over 400 people. We also saw this happen with other companies. In my case I wound up with 24 people in my group to manage. Now anyone who knows anything about management that it is difficult to manage a group of any more than 8 people. This has been recognized in the military for years. I had to create yet another layer of management with 3-4 managers under me of those 24. But it is also a good idea to keep the number of layers low. In its better days Hewlett-Packard was considered a great place to work because they only had 3 levels of hierarchy. If big business is so horrible and run by such truly awful people, why do you drive a car? Why do you fly in airplanes? Why do you use dish-washers and vacuum cleaners? Why do you shop in grocery stores rather than pluck your own weeds? Every day you willingly, gladly and completely unthink- ingly use thousands of products which could only have been produced by long-lived, stable, efficient companies of vastly more than 200 people. These days a lot of these things are assembled from stuff supplied by smaller companies. It's been that way for some time. I'm not saying that every large business does that but many do. Also when we have smaller companies then they employ more people and employment becomes less of a problem. People enjoy working in smaller companies than large ones as the retain their identity and know more of the people they work with. Then we have the issue of corporations which have become psychopathic and destructive to the society and the environment. It would be far better to limit corporation size, rights and life span as we did in the US prior to the Civil War. Some of this psychopathic behavior is due to companies going public. They begin to work for the investor and not the customer. Often doing so they lose what made them successful in the first place. There is a saying, before going public you work for dollars. After going public you work for quarters. Have a nice time working at Wal-Mart. ;-) snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Founders Day September 12, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Founders Day September 12, 2005. Dear Alumni and Friends, This Monday marks the 34th anniversary of the founding of Maharishi University of Management and as many of us remember, Maharishi International University. How can we ever begin to thank Maharishi for all the love, precious wisdom, and great patience he has bestowed upon us throughout the years? Nothing like advanced planning. Must have been on the top of the priority list ... JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush: The Buck Stops Anywhere, But Here
I like to think of myself as an observer and commentator, but not an apologist. I try to describe what I see and experience and draw conclusions from the same, not paying too much attention to what the *accepted wisdom* is on any given topic. I think our ability to work together in large organizations is critical to much of what we, as a species, have come to enjoy. It's also produced many of our most difficult challenges. But humans overwhelmingly vote for what only large, stable, long-lived organizations (business, education, government, etc.) can provide. And we have for thousands of years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're a big business apologist. :) Cliff wrote: There are many corporations of much larger than 200 people who can trace their existence back hundreds of years. Your implication that only a *fool* or a *megalomaniac* would ever take on the task of leading such an entity betrays your intense anti-business bias, I would suggest, and has very little to do with reality. I've been a manager in company, have you? I know the reality very well. Company size was an issue of intense discussion. We watched as the company CEO fell out of control when it was taken public and grew to over 400 people. We also saw this happen with other companies. In my case I wound up with 24 people in my group to manage. Now anyone who knows anything about management that it is difficult to manage a group of any more than 8 people. This has been recognized in the military for years. I had to create yet another layer of management with 3-4 managers under me of those 24. But it is also a good idea to keep the number of layers low. In its better days Hewlett-Packard was considered a great place to work because they only had 3 levels of hierarchy. If big business is so horrible and run by such truly awful people, why do you drive a car? Why do you fly in airplanes? Why do you use dish-washers and vacuum cleaners? Why do you shop in grocery stores rather than pluck your own weeds? Every day you willingly, gladly and completely unthink- ingly use thousands of products which could only have been produced by long-lived, stable, efficient companies of vastly more than 200 people. These days a lot of these things are assembled from stuff supplied by smaller companies. It's been that way for some time. I'm not saying that every large business does that but many do. Also when we have smaller companies then they employ more people and employment becomes less of a problem. People enjoy working in smaller companies than large ones as the retain their identity and know more of the people they work with. Then we have the issue of corporations which have become psychopathic and destructive to the society and the environment. It would be far better to limit corporation size, rights and life span as we did in the US prior to the Civil War. Some of this psychopathic behavior is due to companies going public. They begin to work for the investor and not the customer. Often doing so they lose what made them successful in the first place. There is a saying, before going public you work for dollars. After going public you work for quarters. Have a nice time working at Wal-Mart. ;-) snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am completely amazed at this group. Snipping at each other has become the norm. Nonsense! ONly someone who is clueless would think that. Nonsense? It is you who WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!! Look at my post 657485685746534 in response to your post 5743598379 which was in response to post 875983598. You idiot.That was post 5743598397. You reversed the last two digits. What are you, dyslexic? Who are you calling dyslexic, you idiot?! You'd better run before I call down the wrath of Dog on you! You misspelled doG, fool. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Front page of all major newspapers in the world in real time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very cool: http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/flash/ Bookmarked. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Called putting your assets to good use... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from the New York Times: Some holdouts seem intent on keeping alive the distinct and wild spirit of this city. In the French Quarter, Addie Hall and Zackery Bowen found a unusual way to make sure that police officers regularly patrolled their house. Ms. Hall, 28, a bartender, flashed her breasts at the police vehicles that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic. http://tinyurl.com/dshvd Strong in the knowledge, even in New Orleans... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It allows people to be employed who won't have ANY job if high minimum- wage guidelines are enforced. This will be particularly helpful in getting teenagers or early-20s people who have little skills back to at least some useful work. No teenagers or low-skill workers are going to be involved in rebuilding a disaster-area. You need your very best to handle the demands. I mean, they're going to be buildingin a contaminated swamp where living quarters will likely be miles from theworksite. you don't do OJT in emergency conditions. I think it's a great move, and I believe I understand the economics behind it. Is it possible that you oppose it simply because Bush proposed it? Is it possible you've missed that this is a disaster relief and rebuilding effort, not a $500 million pork-bridge in Alaska? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: 'Katrina Fuels Debate on Global Warming'
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting $50 billion - Now FEMA Head Lies-Experience
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FEMA will receive nearly all of the funds approved on Thursday -- $50 billion -- while the Defense Department will get $1.4 billion for its rescue efforts. The Army Corps of Engineers will get $400 million to dredge navigation channels, repair pump stations and levees in New Orleans and repair other projects in Gulf states. Lots coming out on Brown, the head of FEMA, who will be in charge of that $50 billion. As most know, he's been derided as a horse lawyer with no emergency management experience (he was a lawyer for the Arabian Horse Association from which he was ousted). More on his official resume posted at FindLaw: - his law school is not accredited and is regarded as a joke - he states he was on the Dean's List at his college in OK, but the college says NO he never was - he states he was given the award outstanding political science professor at his college, but the college says he was never a professor at all, much less an outstanding one - he states he was Director of a christian nursing home, but the nursing home has never heard of him - he was let go from his first law job, Well, at least that indicates he passed the bar, no? Assuming you can't get a law job without being a lawyer. So how bad could it be getting your law degree at an unaccredited school? Can you pass the bar without an accredited degree? Just because he works as a lawyer doesn't mean he's licensed to practice law anywhere. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Saved Through Dzogchen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: All of these problems are the gathering of karma. So, Vaj, do you agree with the Rinpoche that all the problems in the Katrina castrophe are the fault of the people and their karma? If the theory of karma is real, then why didn't the Chinese get hit by an earthquake, since they decimated the Tibetans? Do you guys actually read this stuff BEFORE you post it? Karma doesn't require that you get payback THIS lifetime... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Practical uses of flashing - for Tom Pall
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Gillam wrote: Ms. Hall, 28, a bartender, flashed her breasts at the police vehicles that passed by, ensuring a regular flow of traffic. From This is London: He told the Liverpool Daily Post: I couldn't describe how bad the authorities were. Just little things like taking photographs of us, as we are standing on the roof waving for help, for their own little snapshot albums. At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel saying 'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what you've got' and made signs for them to lift their T-shirts. When the girls refused, they said 'Fine' and motored off down the road in their boat. 'Penn accuses Bush amid rescue chaos' This is LONDON http://tinyurl.com/95q7b Do you catch the difference between reward for extra attention and requirement of payment for rescue? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Saved Through Dzogchen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: All of these problems are the gathering of karma. So, Vaj, do you agree with the Rinpoche that all the problems in the Katrina castrophe are the fault of the people and their karma? If the theory of karma is real, then why didn't the Chinese get hit by an earthquake, since they decimated the Tibetans? Do you guys actually read this stuff BEFORE you post it? Karma doesn't require that you get payback THIS lifetime... In fact, the perfect karma for some assholes might just be having to spend about 10,000 more incarnations as an asshole. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Orleans Death Toll may be much less...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cliff wrote: The number of dead in New Orleans may not be as high as first feared..., But for weeks now we've been told by the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisinana that the death toll could reach into the thousands - the worst storm to ever hit the U.S.A. What's the death toll now and how does that compare with previous hurricanes to hit the mainland? What are we supposed tob e doing concerning waiting for the rescues and so on to be completed, again? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: what a snippy group
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: [...] Who are you calling dyslexic, you idiot?! You'd better run before I call down the wrath of Dog on you! And here I thought it was because it was Yat Suga. Scarily enough, I read that as Sat Yuga the first time. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Front page of all major newspapers in the world in real time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very cool: http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/flash/ Europe Estonia: Õu mai gaad mis beibed! LOL (Oh my God what babes!) Heavy sigh. Reminds me of my cute neighbor who came in to model part of her work costume to drum up business for the annual haunted house walk. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. The Luck of the World Global Press Conference, 24.8.05 MAHARISHI: We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying to gather (big groups) very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow us to light the big lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness simply disappears. It is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But still I am hopeful. I am continuing... Well gee, Maharishi. MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T STEAL ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO YOUR PUNDIT PROJECTS, BIG GROUPS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN TOGETHER. I love you MMY, but you're a big ass con artist and crook. Let's call a spade a spade, okay? I remain unconvinced of this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Peter wrote: --- Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. The Luck of the World Global Press Conference, 24.8.05 MAHARISHI: We still have hope in a hopeless world. We are trying to gather (big groups) very soon. But the destiny of the people doesn`t allow us to light the big lamp so quickly so that immediately the deep darkness simply disappears. It is the fate of the people. Fate of the people. But still I am hopeful. I am continuing... Well gee, Maharishi. MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T STEAL ALL THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN DONATED TO YOUR PUNDIT PROJECTS, BIG GROUPS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN TOGETHER. Funny, but I've never consider the ethical or karmic ramifications of Maharishi's nephews skimming all that money for their own purposes. In Maharishi's universe, where entire nations are subject to instant karma, shouldn't the nephews be burning in hell or something? If they're not suffering, can we presume that (1) karma isn't instant, or (2) they didn't take the money? And the evidence for this is... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: forwarded message attached. snip And we are finding our way to create big groups even so it is not happening so quickly. But we can attribute it to not lack of our efforts but lack of the luck of the world. We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic that it is the lack of luck of the world that it is not going so fast. There we take refuge. If it is not going fast we have a logic, it is the luck of the world. In the excerpt above, can anyone please explain to me what MMY is talking about when he says, We have to hide somewhere. So we hide behind the logic...? Sounds crazy to me. Caught my eye too. I suspect it's one of his quasi-gnomic statements that's open to multiple interpretations. The way I read it, he's saying there's an explanation that makes sense (the logic), but at the same time, in characterizing it as hiding, he's also suggesting that it's an excuse. As in: Some of you are mature enough to take responsibility for the failure without being crushed, and you don't need the excuse; those of you who who aren't that mature, here's something you can hide behind. And the whole tone of the message seems like he is protecting the incompetence of those in his movement. Or am I missing something? He's being more explicit about the failure than I've seen before, actually, but for whatever reason he's not lambasting the teachers for it. Benevolent of him, since the failure is his. On the other hand, we includes him. (In fact, one might even read it as the royal we, referring to himself alone. He frequently uses we to mean himself.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
Let's assume you're correct, although I don't think you are. They why do you object to people being free to take a job or not, depending on what they're offered? If not enough is offered, the rebuilding won't happen. If enough is offered, it will. I do not understand your objection at all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It allows people to be employed who won't have ANY job if high minimum- wage guidelines are enforced. This will be particularly helpful in getting teenagers or early-20s people who have little skills back to at least some useful work. No teenagers or low-skill workers are going to be involved in rebuilding a disaster-area. You need your very best to handle the demands. I mean, they're going to be buildingin a contaminated swamp where living quarters will likely be miles from theworksite. you don't do OJT in emergency conditions. I think it's a great move, and I believe I understand the economics behind it. Is it possible that you oppose it simply because Bush proposed it? Is it possible you've missed that this is a disaster relief and rebuilding effort, not a $500 million pork-bridge in Alaska? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Grace of Guru only...Was[Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now is, And would it possibly have been a Guru who wrote that? Then, Was he asking for donations in the next breath? This feeling of sour stomach is one of the sad results from one such as the leader of the TMO. Disbelief in all what Veda has laid down. Sorry - the universe is too vast for there to be an only means. And the Divine is too compassionate for there to be just one way. If there is only One Almighty, then it seems there would be only one door to enter His domain, therefore just one keyhole with which only one key would fit. Who's going to give you that key? God is Guru..Guru is God. Who gets anything other that what they deserve? Perhaps someday a Divine antacid will come your way. Hari Om Tat Sat --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tazarmfune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Grace of Guru only...Was[Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?]
Sorry, but *One Almighty* neither implies one door, nor His, nor one keyhole, nor one key. Even though there might be one ocean, there are many different rivers that flow into it, and an infinite number of places one can enter those many rivers, and a wide variety of completely acceptable craft to navigate the rivers on the journey. Your drone of *one and only* gives me even more pause than the original quote. Your logic is faulty. Pretensions to supreme knowledge dressed up in profound-sounding words only end up being words, in the end. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hanumanhoffman9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As wonderful as that quote used to sound, my gut response now is, And would it possibly have been a Guru who wrote that? Then, Was he asking for donations in the next breath? This feeling of sour stomach is one of the sad results from one such as the leader of the TMO. Disbelief in all what Veda has laid down. Sorry - the universe is too vast for there to be an only means. And the Divine is too compassionate for there to be just one way. If there is only One Almighty, then it seems there would be only one door to enter His domain, therefore just one keyhole with which only one key would fit. Who's going to give you that key? God is Guru..Guru is God. Who gets anything other that what they deserve? Perhaps someday a Divine antacid will come your way. Hari Om Tat Sat --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tazarmfune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Hero Wal-Mart
Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal-Mart for the work they did during the hurricane. Appears that Wal-Mart has such a great distribution system in place that they were able to get staples to the people in times and places when the government agencies weren't. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hero Wal-Mart
LOL!! Did they deliver staplers as well? Sorry, couldn't resist... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heard a piece on NPR this afternoon driving home PRAISING Wal-Mart for the work they did during the hurricane. Appears that Wal-Mart has such a great distribution system in place that they were able to get staples to the people in times and places when the government agencies weren't. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Grace of Guru only...Was[Guru Dev and Sri Vidya...Origins?]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hanumanhoffman9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip the universe is too vast for there to be an only means. And the Divine is too compassionate for there to be just one way. If there is only One Almighty, then it seems there would be only one door to enter His domain, therefore just one keyhole with which only one key would fit. Who's going to give you that key? God is Guru..Guru is God. As You are God, too, As You are your Guru, too. No real difference. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'All Television Networks/Will Carry Live Concert, Tonight 8:00pm EDT'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could be a very emotional experience! And good harmony, hopefully. I'll out of my way to miss it. Maudlin, self-congratulatory, full of superlatives, hyperbole and platitudes rhetoric from the politically-correct Hollywood In-Crowd is NOT my idea of entertainment. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam Funny, but I've never consider the ethical or karmic ramifications of Maharishi's nephews skimming all that money for their own purposes. In Maharishi's universe, where entire nations are subject to instant karma, shouldn't the nephews be burning in hell or something? If they're not suffering, can we presume that (1) karma isn't instant, or (2) they didn't take the money? And the evidence for this is... What is the evidence that MMY's nephews have made off with money? I'm not sure what you're asking, Lawson. Sorry. - Patrick Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FEMA getting the $50 billion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's assume you're correct, although I don't think you are. They why do you object to people being free to take a job or not, depending on what they're offered? If not enough is offered, the rebuilding won't happen. If enough is offered, it will. I do not understand your objection at all. Whatever they offer, they will get takers, sot he rebuilding WILL take place, regardless. There are questions of quality, timeliness, as well as pumping money into the local economy naturally, rather than as direct handouts, that arise when you pay lower-than-normal wages for this kind of thing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: [Transcendental_Meditation] Global Press Conference: Aug. 24, 2005
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam Funny, but I've never consider the ethical or karmic ramifications of Maharishi's nephews skimming all that money for their own purposes. In Maharishi's universe, where entire nations are subject to instant karma, shouldn't the nephews be burning in hell or something? If they're not suffering, can we presume that (1) karma isn't instant, or (2) they didn't take the money? And the evidence for this is... What is the evidence that MMY's nephews have made off with money? I'm not sure what you're asking, Lawson. Sorry. Yes, what is the evidence that they made off with the money? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/