[FairfieldLife] Hooray! trayam ekatra saMyamaH!

[cardemaister]

Hooray! My fav (McPhee) is amongst the top 3! :)
Her "best" performance, though, of those we have
seen here in F-land, was, IMO,  "Think!", several weeks
ago!









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[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Totally fascinating article (long) in the New York Times magazine.  A 
> few excerpts:
> 
> 
> My Pain, My Brain 
> 
> By MELANIE THERNSTROM
> Published: May 14, 2006
> 
> Who hasn't wished she could watch her brain at work and make changes 
> to it, the way a painter steps back from a painting, studies it and 
> decides to make the sky a different hue? If only we could spell-check 
> our brain like a text, or reprogram it like a computer to eliminate 
> glitches like pain, depression and learning disabilities. Would we 
> one day become completely transparent to ourselves, and — fully 
> conscious of consciousness — consciously create ourselves as we 
> like?...
> 
> Over six sessions, volunteers are being asked to try to increase and 
> decrease their pain while watching the activation of a part of their 
> brain involved in pain perception and modulation. This real-time 
> imaging lets them assess how well they are succeeding. Dr. Sean 
> Mackey, the study's senior investigator and the director of the 
> Neuroimaging and Pain Lab at Stanford, explained that the results of 
> the study's first phase...showed that while looking at the brain, 
> subjects can learn to control its activation in a way that regulates 
> their pain. While this may be likened to biofeedback, traditional 
> biofeedback provides indirect measures of brain activity through 
> information about heart rate, skin temperature and other autonomic 
> functions, or even EEG waves. Mackey's approach allows subjects to 
> interact with the brain itself.
> 
> "It is the mind-body problem — right there on the screen," one of 
> Mackey's collaborators, Christopher deCharms...told me later. "We are 
> doing something that people have wanted to do for thousands of years. 
> Descartes said, 'I think, therefore I am.' Now we're watching that 
> process as it unfolds."...
> 
> How does it work? I want to ask. Just as people were once puzzled by 
> Freud's talking cure (how does describing problems solve them?), the 
> Stanford study makes us wonder: How can one part of our brain control 
> another by looking at it? Who is the "me" controlling my brain, then? 
> It seems to deepen the mind-body problem, widening the old Cartesian 
> divide by splitting the self into subject and agent
> 
> The area of the brain that the scanner focuses on is the rostral 
> anterior cingulate cortex (rACC). The rACC (a quarter-size patch in 
> the middle-front of the brain, the cingular cortex) plays a critical 
> role in the awareness of the nastiness of pain: the feeling of 
> dislike for it, a loathing so intense that you are immediately 
> compelled to try to make it stop
> 
> ...Patients who have undergone a radical surgical treatment 
> occasionally used for pain (as well as for mental illness) called a 
> cingulotomy, in which the rACC is partly destroyed, report that they 
> are still aware of pain but that they don't "mind" it anymore. Their 
> emotional response has receded
> 
> 
> Really worth reading the whole thing at:
> http://tinyurl.com/noo5e
> 
> (That last bit reminds me of what MMY says about Jesus not suffering 
> on the cross.  Pain isn't suffering if you don't *mind* it--if it 
> doesn't overshadow you?)
>

Probably not due to the same mechanism --not even remotely. Witnessing waking, 
dreaming and sleeping likely don't have any effect on the functioning of the rostral 
anterior cingulate cortex. Any in CC "not minding" of pain isn't due  not feeling or "caring" 
about the pain, but simply due to the strength of the connections that give rise the CC 
state in the first place. 











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[FairfieldLife] My Pain, My Brain

[authfriend]

Totally fascinating article (long) in the New York Times magazine.  A 
few excerpts:


My Pain, My Brain 
    
By MELANIE THERNSTROM
Published: May 14, 2006

Who hasn't wished she could watch her brain at work and make changes 
to it, the way a painter steps back from a painting, studies it and 
decides to make the sky a different hue? If only we could spell-check 
our brain like a text, or reprogram it like a computer to eliminate 
glitches like pain, depression and learning disabilities. Would we 
one day become completely transparent to ourselves, and — fully 
conscious of consciousness — consciously create ourselves as we 
like?...

Over six sessions, volunteers are being asked to try to increase and 
decrease their pain while watching the activation of a part of their 
brain involved in pain perception and modulation. This real-time 
imaging lets them assess how well they are succeeding. Dr. Sean 
Mackey, the study's senior investigator and the director of the 
Neuroimaging and Pain Lab at Stanford, explained that the results of 
the study's first phase...showed that while looking at the brain, 
subjects can learn to control its activation in a way that regulates 
their pain. While this may be likened to biofeedback, traditional 
biofeedback provides indirect measures of brain activity through 
information about heart rate, skin temperature and other autonomic 
functions, or even EEG waves. Mackey's approach allows subjects to 
interact with the brain itself.

"It is the mind-body problem — right there on the screen," one of 
Mackey's collaborators, Christopher deCharms...told me later. "We are 
doing something that people have wanted to do for thousands of years. 
Descartes said, 'I think, therefore I am.' Now we're watching that 
process as it unfolds."...

How does it work? I want to ask. Just as people were once puzzled by 
Freud's talking cure (how does describing problems solve them?), the 
Stanford study makes us wonder: How can one part of our brain control 
another by looking at it? Who is the "me" controlling my brain, then? 
It seems to deepen the mind-body problem, widening the old Cartesian 
divide by splitting the self into subject and agent

The area of the brain that the scanner focuses on is the rostral 
anterior cingulate cortex (rACC). The rACC (a quarter-size patch in 
the middle-front of the brain, the cingular cortex) plays a critical 
role in the awareness of the nastiness of pain: the feeling of 
dislike for it, a loathing so intense that you are immediately 
compelled to try to make it stop

...Patients who have undergone a radical surgical treatment 
occasionally used for pain (as well as for mental illness) called a 
cingulotomy, in which the rACC is partly destroyed, report that they 
are still aware of pain but that they don't "mind" it anymore. Their 
emotional response has receded


Really worth reading the whole thing at:
http://tinyurl.com/noo5e

(That last bit reminds me of what MMY says about Jesus not suffering 
on the cross.  Pain isn't suffering if you don't *mind* it--if it 
doesn't overshadow you?)
 










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 5/13/06 10:22 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> >  wrote:
> >> 
> >> on 5/13/06 7:02 AM, Jason at jedi_spock@ wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Maharishi has a lot Money.  Women are attracted to people
> > with loot of
> >>> Money.  
> >>> 
> >>> Did Maharishi give those women Money or something,??
> >> 
> >> In one case he did. After Jennifer left, she got substantial
> > payments for a
> >> while. I don¹t know if it was considered hush money or support
> > money.
> > 
> > The BIG question here is:
> > 
> > Was the money given in cash?  Or cheque?
> > 
> > Paper trail...
> 
> 35 year old paper trail.
>

And 35-year-old affair...









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
>  wrote:
> >
> > on 5/13/06 7:02 AM, Jason at jedi_spock@ wrote:
> > > 
> > > Maharishi has a lot Money.  Women are attracted to people 
> with loot of
> > > Money.  
> > > 
> > > Did Maharishi give those women Money or something,??
> > 
> > In one case he did. After Jennifer left, she got substantial 
> payments for a
> > while. I don¹t know if it was considered hush money or support 
> money. Jerry
> > Jarvis rather resented having to give it to her. I don¹t know if 
> others got
> > money, but some got fancy saris, jewelry, etc.
> >
> 
> What's Jerry's email address? I'm going to write to him, tell him I 
> too was abused by Maharishi, sit back and watch the checks roll in! 
> Yeah!
>

First we have to verify that Jerry really said he resented having to give her the money. Then 
we have to wonder why Jerry, oh-so-dedicated, Jarvis, went around telling everyone he 
was resentful...










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
>  wrote:
> >
> > on 5/13/06 7:02 AM, Jason at jedi_spock@ wrote:
> > > 
> > > Maharishi has a lot Money.  Women are attracted to people 
> with loot of
> > > Money.  
> > > 
> > > Did Maharishi give those women Money or something,??
> > 
> > In one case he did. After Jennifer left, she got substantial 
> payments for a
> > while. I don¹t know if it was considered hush money or support 
> money.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The BIG question here is:
> 
> Was the money given in cash?  Or cheque?
> 
> Paper trail...
> 
> 

Suitcases delivered without foreknowledge by the guy carrying the cash. He just opened it 
up saying MMY told me to give this to you and have  you open in front of me so I could be 
all surprised and disillusioned...









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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Donovan Thinks TM Is Mainstream Now'

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel  
> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8123-2176513,00.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Interesting article.  Apparently, Donovan also went to see MMY in 
> Holland around the time George Harrison did.
> 

He also appears to consider TM to be his main style of meditation though he has dabbled 
with others over the years...










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  
> wrote:
> >
> > on 5/12/06 3:49 PM, Ingegerd at marwincornyarmand@ wrote:
> > > 
> > > I have been working with women that has been abused. And I have no
> > > doubt that a sexual relationship between the Guru/Maharishi and a
> > > devotee, is abuse. The feelings of love that we had for MMY (both
> > > men and women), the power of his charisma, made these women to
> > > victims. I will say that MMY showed no respect for these women and
> > > that he is the one to blame.
> > > Ingegerd
> > 
> > Hey Ingegerd, good to hear from you. It's been a while. How's it 
> going?
> 
> Thank you Rick. I am busy - after I left the TMO, many doors has open -
>  a lot of "Nature support", the Creativity that I could not use inside 
> the TMO is just flowing. Last week I was invited by EU to Germany to 
> give a lecture about abuse of elderly women. We have a very good 
> service in Oslo to help elderly victims. I am still an Independent 
> Teacher - and that is my first priority. I have found my own spiritual 
> way, and is very thankful for all the ideas I get from FFL (spiritual 
> discussions, use of Yantras etc.)
> Ingegerd
>  
> >
>

Use of yantras... Do you still consider yourself to be teaching TM?










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fantastic Peace Palace video on-line

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
>  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > --- Rick Archer 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > on 5/12/06 10:22 AM, Peter at
> > > > > > > drpetersutphen@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Oh my God! I am speechless! A great Monty Python
> > > > > > > bit!
> > > > > > > > I can't wait to see Tony cruise around in a circle
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the "grand" three times a day.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In case anyone missed it, the entire script for this
> > > > > > > thing was dictated by
> > > > > > > MMY. I can just hear him saying "starry hats and
> > > > > > > starry shirts."
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I guessed as much. I love MMY and always will, but
> > > > > > he's  gone a bit crazy. What does all this stuff have
> > > > > > to do with Realization?--nothing!
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's a test for those "yes" men around him...reverse 
> > > > > Darwinism...the TMO has become so nutty that after MMY 
> > > > > drops the body, the nutcases around him will have become 
> > > > > habituated to dealing with this silly fantasy world that 
> > > > > they have supported all these years and they will, 
> > > > > naturally, have no talents to run -- and therefore -- 
> > > > > muck up the TMO any longer.
> > > > 
> > > > I'd buy the 'test' part. It's just that I might
> > > > cast karma in the part of 'tester,' not Maharishi.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > It's all really wishful thinking on my part.  I'm trying to find 
> > > some rhyme or reason for the madness that a once-wonderful 
> > > organisation has become.
> > >
> > 
> > 99.9% of the world never saw it as wonderful...
> >
> 
> Although I care what the rest of the world thinks about the TMO, I 
> am more concerned about how I see it...
>

Still attached, I see. 










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[FairfieldLife] Re: My Rape Story

[johnlasher20002000]

do it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 5/13/06 5:08 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hey Rick, someone is posting as off_world_beings again. I did not
> > write this. Whoever it is, you are a sorry lonely loser.
> > Off World Beings
> > 
> Someone posted some porn through an anon account about a week ago,
posing as
> another FFL member who would never do such a thing. I think we're
going to
> have to shut down the anonymous accounts. People can set up their own,
> personal anon accounts, as many do, if they want to post
anonymously. Does
> anyone have a better suggestion?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: My Rape Story

[bob_brigante]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 5/13/06 5:08 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> 
> > Hey Rick, someone is posting as off_world_beings again. I did not
> > write this. Whoever it is, you are a sorry lonely loser.
> > Off World Beings
> > 
> Someone posted some porn through an anon account about a week ago, 
posing as
> another FFL member who would never do such a thing. I think we're 
going to
> have to shut down the anonymous accounts. People can set up their 
own,
> personal anon accounts, as many do, if they want to post 
anonymously. Does
> anyone have a better suggestion?
>

**

It was always ridiculous to have the anonymous accounts, not that I 
need to know who's actually posting, but a bunch of "anonymous" 
makes it difficult to follow an individual through a thread. There 
are dozens of email providers for those who don't want to reveal 
their actual identities.










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Rape Story

[Rick Archer]

on 5/13/06 5:08 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hey Rick, someone is posting as off_world_beings again. I did not
> write this. Whoever it is, you are a sorry lonely loser.
> Off World Beings
> 
Someone posted some porn through an anon account about a week ago, posing as
another FFL member who would never do such a thing. I think we're going to
have to shut down the anonymous accounts. People can set up their own,
personal anon accounts, as many do, if they want to post anonymously. Does
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?





on 5/13/06 4:17 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  
   Ha Ha, My keyboard has a problem with the letter "O' .  The o's run off without control.
  
 
  
    No man in his right mind would call his Secretary into his bedroom at 4.00'am at Night and ask her to read Poetry..!!???
  
 
  
    A man is either a Guru or Charlatan.  He cannot be both.
  
 
  
    You cannot be a little pregnant.  Either you're pregnant or not.
  
 
  you can be pregnant and then have a miscarriage.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] 9/11 - Why can it not be unemotionally discussed, without taking sides?

[Bhairitu]

So you believe that 19 Arabs who could barely fly a single engine 
aircraft transformed the world?

megpp369 wrote:

>To those who read this post.
>
>I am an English psychic who has written a book about the spiritual
>message of 9/11. It is a book where no religious group or political
>group can claim the moral high ground.
>
>The problem I have in regards to this book is getting it of the ground
>and making the public aware that it is here, and that it can explain why
>9/11 happened, and how it all came about.
>
>And more importantly the book has the spiritual message of hope for the
>future (individually ) for all within its pages.
>
>If I post on a site that has a religious grouping I am condemned as off
>message, on one site I was called evil based on how I wrote the word
>god, (not in caps) and on all of them in general I am patronised and
>basically told to go away and take my delusions with me and get real
>religion.
>
>Then on the other hand when I post on sites discussing 9/11 where all
>that days inconsistences in regards to the truth of what the politicians
>have told the people of the World and not just America, I am classed as
>just a religious nut, and they can be just as patronising as those on
>the religious sites.
>
>I am to the best of my knowledge neither delusional or a religious nut.
>
>Unfortunately for Americans the book points out that 9/11 came about
>because god decided that it was time for America to learn some hard
>lessons in life,,, and so god made sure that the attackers on the day
>were successful in their mission and they suffered no setbacks.
>
>Remember when information on the hijackers, and how they seemed to just
>walk in and out of the country, and then just wander around freely,
>going about their deadly business without being detected surprised and
>shocked Americans. I explain why they seemed irrelevant and almost
>invisible to all in the book.
>
>This book joins the practical to the spiritual of that day.
>
>In my post to both religious and practical 9/11 sites I have pointed
>people in the direction of my website www.megsabwotrfaday.com
>  where I have a copy of a speeding
>judgement in regards to when I was caught speeding on New Years eve 1995
>on the Joshua highway in 1995. (downloadable)
>
>I have repeatedly said that the speeding judgement is spiritually
>connected to the events of 9/11, not one person has attempted to engage
>me sensibly or rationally on this in reply post it is as though they
>know that they cannot take me on in regards to this, because it is
>beyond their comprehension that a speeding ticket received by an
>Englishman in Arizona in 1995 can be spiritually relevant to that
>extraordinary day in history, 9/11.
>
>IT IS A CHALLENGE TO ALL! both religious and practical minded people
>from god. On this issue god has thrown down the gauntlet. And basically
>say`s, "HOW WILL YOU EXPLAIN THIS!"
>
>But both religious and the practical minded people avoid this issue!
>
>Also in the book I give the spiritual message of why god arranged and
>designed our solar system so that when the moon passed between the sun
>and earth it fitted perfectly.
>
>Religion does not have all the answers, and neither do those people who
>consider themselves above religion.
>
>This book is the meeting point between the religious world and the
>practical world!
>
>It needs people to read it,,, not to make me rich or famous,,, but to
>prevent the same mistakes being made again in both America and the
>world!
>
>I also have some spiritual lessons on the events surrounding hurricane
>Katrina,,, and the inquiry's into 9/11 and the Columbia shuttle
>disaster and the inquiry that never took place into the vote frauds
>that have allegedly taken place regarding the targeting and denying of
>some black Americans and their right to vote.
>
>This is not a one subject one dimensional book just about 9/11, it has
>many spiritual lessons that are meant to help all within it.
>
>But 9/11 was a point in time where god has just basically said
>"enough is enough I will now show you who really pulls the invisible
>strings in this world, and in this universe"
>
>And it is not the practical politicians and it is not the politicised
>religious leaders!
>
>If you read my website please take your time in looking it over,,, there
>are many things there that escape the eye if you rush it through.
>
>Details of my book and how to obtain it at discount can be seen on my
>website www.megsabwotrfaday.com 
>
>To those moderators and site owners that think because I am seemingly
>pushing a book/product,,, I ask them to think about it if they want to
>not post this message,,, I am bringing about something that needs to be
>talked about this may be the only way it can be brought into the
>open/light.
>
>I wish everyone the best.
>
>James
>
>
>  
>







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genghis Blues

[Bhairitu]

Unfortunately Paul passed away a few months back:
http://www.fotuva.org/friends/paul_pena.html
A friend "angeled" his treatments for pancreatitus (he was originally 
misdiagnosed for pancreatic cancer).


curtisdeltablues wrote:

>Thanks, I only knew about it superficially.  I should get the film on
>Netflix and learn more. With the little I have heard I prefered his
>straight non-throat singing to the Tuvan stuff.  But I really should
>learn more.
>
>
>
>
>  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] more scary

[Bhairitu]

And according to Richard Clarke who appeared on Bill Maher last night 
the NSA seems to believe there are 100 million terrorists in the US. :)

johnlasher20002000 wrote:

>Bush Motorcade Aims Assault Rifles At Protesters In Florida
>
>
>Prison Planet.com | May 12 2006
>
>Eyewitnesses are reporting that during Bush's recent visit to Florida,
>protesters were shocked to see security goons and secret service
>aiming assault rifles at them hanging out of the window of the passing
>motorcade.
>
>Should we be surprised that ordinary bill of rights exercising
>Americans are treated like terrorists in light of the latest
>revelations on the NSA spying program?
>
>Is this Nepal or America?
>
>Accounts provided to the Daily Kos website are reprinted below.
>
>Narrative re: Bush's visit to SCC on May 9, 2006 from Barbara Nicholson
>
>We stood with about 50 others on rte 674 and when the motorcade came
>by there was assault rifle OUT the window pointing at ALL of us and
>the cars all looked like I remember seeing in the Hitler motorcades in
>the movies when I was a child, all boxy and black and one had the Pres
>seal and American flag on the sides. It was absolutely chilling! I
>worked the inner city for 15 years with gangs and even with kids and
>families of the Bloods and Crips and have never had an assault rifle
>pointed my way. In my 75 years I have seen many Pres motorcades and
>shook many pres hands and seen many pres elects and their entourage
>but never anything like this with the motorcycles, big black cars and
>rifles were just the very last straw. It wasn't the rifle that was
>scary it was knowing that this madman is so insecure and scared and
>psychotic that this is how he must travel. AARGH! USA, Banana
>Republic for sure. Then to know our tax money paid for this photo op
>and for the fundraising luncheon at the Renaissance Club is truly the
>icing on the cake which will kill us all. Very depressing to say the
>least.
>
> >From an intern for Congressional candidate John Russell (FL-5):
>Here is my full story, with everything correct. As you know I am
>interning with John Russell, a candidate in District 5 running against
>Ginny Brown-Waite. We went to the protest to make sure bush heard
>about the problems with Medicare Part D. As the President drove by
>John was delivering his message to the President, who was looking at
>us out the window. I don't remember if it was before or after the
>President's car, but inside on of the black suv's was a man holding,
>what looked to be, an automatic rifle out the window. It was pointed
>at the protesters. I am glad to hear that the people on the other side
>of the street saw this too. Those of us on the corner I was on
>couldn't believe that this had occurred, and John proceeded to tell
>President Bush as he got out of the motorcade, 'how dare you point a
>weapon at civil protesters' among other things. It was a very
>interesting day for me, being the first time I have ever seen the
>President, and the first time I have been directly threatened by the
>President. hopefully this helps in lining up the stories. Please send
>this out to everyone, and keep the talk growing. I want to know if
>this is standard operating procedure for the Bush motorcade, or a one
>time thing.
>
>~Nic Zateslo
>Intern for John Russell, Candidate for Congress District 5
>
>And from Kossack boofdah:
>Mary, Nic, and I were there as well; and yes, it went down exactly as
>Barbara and John have said below. I don't think I've ever felt such a
>sense of foreboding in my life as when I saw that automatic rifle
>pointed at us, peaceful protesters.
>
>At the time September 11th happened, I worked at a military base near
>where I used to live before we moved to FL. Immediately after 9/11,
>our base was at Threatcon D, meaning that the military personnel
>guarding our base had to be armed. Yeah, I saw sharp-shooters and
>automatic rifles; but I took some kind of comfort in the notion that
>these measures were meant for the "bad guys."
>
>On Tuesday, the message that the sniper hanging out the window with
>his automatic weapon had for us was that we peacefully-protesting
>Americans were the "bad guys." And that thought alone gave me the chills.
>
>
>
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[FairfieldLife] The Moody Blues & transcendental meditation

[Paul Mason]

In the sleeve notes of the CD of the Moody Blues' 'In Search Of The 
Lost Chord'(1968) Ray Thomas states 'We started getting into 
transcendental meditation and Eastern influences then.'

Whilst in the sleeve notes of the CD of the Moody Blues' 'On The 
Threshold Of A Dream'(1969), Justin Hayward tells us 'It was also the 
time that me, Mike, Ray and Graeme were initiated into transcendental 
meditation and that was reflected'.









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[FairfieldLife] The Moody Blues & transcendental meditation

[Paul Mason]

In the sleeve notes of the CD of the Moody Blues' 'In Search of a Lost 
Chord'(1968) Ray Thomas states 'We Started getting into transcendental 
meditation and Eastern influences then.'

Whilst in the sleeve notes of the CD of the Moody Blues' 'On The 
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time that me, Mike, Ray and Graeme were initiated into transcendental 
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[FairfieldLife] The Moody Blues & transcendental meditation

[Paul Mason]

In the sleeve notes of the CD of the Moody Blues' 'In Search of a Lost 
Chord'(1968) Ray Thomas states 'We Started getting into transcendental 
meditation and Eastern influences then.'

Whilst in the sleeve notes of the CD of the Moody Blues' 'On The 
Threshold of a Dream'(1969), Justin Hayward tells us 'It was also the 
time that me, Mike, Ray and Graeme were initiated into transcendental 
meditation and that ws reflected'.









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[FairfieldLife] The Moody Blues & transcendental meditation

[Paul Mason]

In the sleeve notes of the CD of the Moody Blues' 'In Search of a Lost 
Chord'(1968) Ray Thomas states 'We Started getting into transcendental 
meditation and Eastern influences then.' And in the sleeve notes of the 
CD of the Moody Blues' 'On The Threshold of a Dream'(1969), Justin 
Hayward tells us 'It was also the time that me, Mike, Ray and Graeme 
were initiated into transcendental meditation and that was relected'.









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[FairfieldLife] TO TURQUOISE 9/11 - Why can it not be discussed, without taking sides?

[megpp369]

TO TURQUOISE

i agree with you,,, but i still have to try!

all the best

James



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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "megpp369" megpp369@ wrote:
> >
> > To those who read this post.
> >
> > I am an English psychic who has written a book about the spiritual
> > message of 9/11. It is a book where no religious group or political
> > group can claim the moral high ground.
>
> Won't sell, for that very reason.
>














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[FairfieldLife] more scary

[johnlasher20002000]

Bush Motorcade Aims Assault Rifles At Protesters In Florida


Prison Planet.com | May 12 2006

Eyewitnesses are reporting that during Bush's recent visit to Florida,
protesters were shocked to see security goons and secret service
aiming assault rifles at them hanging out of the window of the passing
motorcade.

Should we be surprised that ordinary bill of rights exercising
Americans are treated like terrorists in light of the latest
revelations on the NSA spying program?

Is this Nepal or America?

Accounts provided to the Daily Kos website are reprinted below.

Narrative re: Bush's visit to SCC on May 9, 2006 from Barbara Nicholson

We stood with about 50 others on rte 674 and when the motorcade came
by there was assault rifle OUT the window pointing at ALL of us and
the cars all looked like I remember seeing in the Hitler motorcades in
the movies when I was a child, all boxy and black and one had the Pres
seal and American flag on the sides. It was absolutely chilling! I
worked the inner city for 15 years with gangs and even with kids and
families of the Bloods and Crips and have never had an assault rifle
pointed my way. In my 75 years I have seen many Pres motorcades and
shook many pres hands and seen many pres elects and their entourage
but never anything like this with the motorcycles, big black cars and
rifles were just the very last straw. It wasn't the rifle that was
scary it was knowing that this madman is so insecure and scared and
psychotic that this is how he must travel. AARGH! USA, Banana
Republic for sure. Then to know our tax money paid for this photo op
and for the fundraising luncheon at the Renaissance Club is truly the
icing on the cake which will kill us all. Very depressing to say the
least.

>From an intern for Congressional candidate John Russell (FL-5):
Here is my full story, with everything correct. As you know I am
interning with John Russell, a candidate in District 5 running against
Ginny Brown-Waite. We went to the protest to make sure bush heard
about the problems with Medicare Part D. As the President drove by
John was delivering his message to the President, who was looking at
us out the window. I don't remember if it was before or after the
President's car, but inside on of the black suv's was a man holding,
what looked to be, an automatic rifle out the window. It was pointed
at the protesters. I am glad to hear that the people on the other side
of the street saw this too. Those of us on the corner I was on
couldn't believe that this had occurred, and John proceeded to tell
President Bush as he got out of the motorcade, 'how dare you point a
weapon at civil protesters' among other things. It was a very
interesting day for me, being the first time I have ever seen the
President, and the first time I have been directly threatened by the
President. hopefully this helps in lining up the stories. Please send
this out to everyone, and keep the talk growing. I want to know if
this is standard operating procedure for the Bush motorcade, or a one
time thing.

~Nic Zateslo
Intern for John Russell, Candidate for Congress District 5

And from Kossack boofdah:
Mary, Nic, and I were there as well; and yes, it went down exactly as
Barbara and John have said below. I don't think I've ever felt such a
sense of foreboding in my life as when I saw that automatic rifle
pointed at us, peaceful protesters.

At the time September 11th happened, I worked at a military base near
where I used to live before we moved to FL. Immediately after 9/11,
our base was at Threatcon D, meaning that the military personnel
guarding our base had to be armed. Yeah, I saw sharp-shooters and
automatic rifles; but I took some kind of comfort in the notion that
these measures were meant for the "bad guys."

On Tuesday, the message that the sniper hanging out the window with
his automatic weapon had for us was that we peacefully-protesting
Americans were the "bad guys." And that thought alone gave me the chills.









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus: A Prophet?!! Not Divine?!!

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 5/13/06 2:48:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Jesus is 
  an ancient story. ie. fiction.

Now who's trippin'?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus: A Prophet?!! Not Divine?!!

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 5/13/06 2:45:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Jesus 
  came to me in a great vision and said, don't believe a word of the Bible. 
  I believe Jesus.

What, are you hallucinating? Wasn't it you just a few posts 
earlier that said he never existed? Yet you believe him? Talk about twists and 
turns and all in one sentence!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy--from a lurker

[authfriend]

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> the same old crap











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus: A Prophet?!! Not Divine?!!

[off_world_beings]

Jesus is an ancient story. ie. fiction.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, smile_mim mimi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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>
> Jesus: A Prophet?!!  Not Divine?!!
>    
>   I know it sounds blasphemous the first time you hear it, but in 
reality it is more demeaning to call God a human!  God literally 
contained in a man  named Jesus?  God needing sleep? God needing 
food? God falling on His Face in prayer?  to whom? God going to the 
bathroom? God being born from between the legs of a woman? God at 
the mercy of His enemies; being spit upon, beaten, mocked? God 
dying? God a man? No! And Jesus never claimed to be more than a man 
sent by God, sustained by the mercy of God and bound in obedience to 
God.
>    
>   If we wish to follow Jesus let us look at what Jesus taught, not 
Paul.  There is much confusion over which verses in the Bible are 
authentic and which are not but  we can still try to locate the true 
message of Jesus. Jesus refers to himself as a prophet upon many 
occasions; Mark (6:4) and Luke(13:33) for example.  Jesus 'speaks 
not on his own authority'; John (12:49), (4:4) and (7:16) for 
example.  Jesus denies perfect (full) knowledge: '...I know not the 
Hour but the Father in heaven Only Knoweth...'(Matthew). Neither did 
Jesus say: 'saved by my blood'. He described 'keeping the 
commandments and having faith' as the road to heaven; Matthew (22:37-
40), (4:10), (5:20), (15:7-9), (19:17), Luke (13:3) and John (17:3), 
(5:24).
>    
>   We Muslims raise Jesus up to a higher standard of respect than 
Christians do.  You might ask, "How is that so?".  First of all we 
honor Jesus in truth not in a myth.  We revere him as a mighty, 
courageous, God-fearing, obedient Prophet of God the Almighty.  
Jesus lived his life in accordance with the will of God.. 'the one 
who sent me'. We believe Jesus was chosen by God. This is a great 
honor indeed!  Chosen by God to deliver the Divine Message.  We also 
avow that he was born of a virgin, Mary.  (A fact which many 
university educated Christians do not believe!) Note that Joseph is 
not to be found in the  Islamic literature. We are told in the Quran 
that Jesus spoke from the cradle to defend his mother from the 
accusations of fornication. The Quran also states that Jesus 
fashioned a bird out of clay and it came alive by the will of God.  
He healed blind men and  lepers and raised a man from the dead , all 
by the will of God.  And, yes, he spoke with authority.  God gave
>  him the authority.  All the prophets were authorized to carry out 
Gods' mission for them and God gave each prophet special talents and 
miracles in order to enable them to carry out His plan.  We are not 
Muslims if we do not honor and believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet 
of God.  
>    
>   Remember... I said that we believe Jesus will be returned to 
earth. 
>    
>   But what do I believe Jesus will do when he returns?  
>  
>   Muslims expect Jesus to come again to set the record straight 
about his being a prophet and not one of a trinity, nor the Son of 
God.  We expect him to live among the Muslims for years in peace 
after  killing the Anti-Christ .  He will be the leader of the 
believers and will pray and judge according to Islam , which is and 
always has been the religion of all the prophets since Adam. 
[Remember Islam means submission to the One and Only God.] At this 
time all the people will know the truth about him and there will be 
one religion and peace will reign until the time God will decide.  
His coming is one of the major signs of the Last Hour (the Day of 
Judgement).  But it will not be over yet.  God Alone knows its time.
>    
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus: A Prophet?!! Not Divine?!!

[off_world_beings]

We met Jesus.

He was very tall, about 15 feet, very thin, with blue skin, three 
eyes, but like those of a Jaguar cat, and wielded an ornate golden 
longbow. His charge was a majestic white horse who spoke in tongues, 
and a transparent crocodile lay sleeping at his feet.

He spoke in tones that played on the mind like sweet melodies, or 
like a soft breeze over calm water.
Our hearts were filled with love, and we saw that history had never 
existed. 
We wept with joy, and forgave all those who trespassed against us.



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wrote:
>
> Jesus: A Prophet?!!  Not Divine?!!
>    
>   I know it sounds blasphemous the first time you hear it, but in 
reality it is more demeaning to call God a human!  God literally 
contained in a man  named Jesus?  God needing sleep? God needing 
food? God falling on His Face in prayer?  to whom? God going to the 
bathroom? God being born from between the legs of a woman? God at 
the mercy of His enemies; being spit upon, beaten, mocked? God 
dying? God a man? No! And Jesus never claimed to be more than a man 
sent by God, sustained by the mercy of God and bound in obedience to 
God.
>    
>   If we wish to follow Jesus let us look at what Jesus taught, not 
Paul.  There is much confusion over which verses in the Bible are 
authentic and which are not but  we can still try to locate the true 
message of Jesus. Jesus refers to himself as a prophet upon many 
occasions; Mark (6:4) and Luke(13:33) for example.  Jesus 'speaks 
not on his own authority'; John (12:49), (4:4) and (7:16) for 
example.  Jesus denies perfect (full) knowledge: '...I know not the 
Hour but the Father in heaven Only Knoweth...'(Matthew). Neither did 
Jesus say: 'saved by my blood'. He described 'keeping the 
commandments and having faith' as the road to heaven; Matthew (22:37-
40), (4:10), (5:20), (15:7-9), (19:17), Luke (13:3) and John (17:3), 
(5:24).
>    
>   We Muslims raise Jesus up to a higher standard of respect than 
Christians do.  You might ask, "How is that so?".  First of all we 
honor Jesus in truth not in a myth.  We revere him as a mighty, 
courageous, God-fearing, obedient Prophet of God the Almighty.  
Jesus lived his life in accordance with the will of God.. 'the one 
who sent me'. We believe Jesus was chosen by God. This is a great 
honor indeed!  Chosen by God to deliver the Divine Message.  We also 
avow that he was born of a virgin, Mary.  (A fact which many 
university educated Christians do not believe!) Note that Joseph is 
not to be found in the  Islamic literature. We are told in the Quran 
that Jesus spoke from the cradle to defend his mother from the 
accusations of fornication. The Quran also states that Jesus 
fashioned a bird out of clay and it came alive by the will of God.  
He healed blind men and  lepers and raised a man from the dead , all 
by the will of God.  And, yes, he spoke with authority.  God gave
>  him the authority.  All the prophets were authorized to carry out 
Gods' mission for them and God gave each prophet special talents and 
miracles in order to enable them to carry out His plan.  We are not 
Muslims if we do not honor and believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet 
of God.  
>    
>   Remember... I said that we believe Jesus will be returned to 
earth. 
>    
>   But what do I believe Jesus will do when he returns?  
>  
>   Muslims expect Jesus to come again to set the record straight 
about his being a prophet and not one of a trinity, nor the Son of 
God.  We expect him to live among the Muslims for years in peace 
after  killing the Anti-Christ .  He will be the leader of the 
believers and will pray and judge according to Islam , which is and 
always has been the religion of all the prophets since Adam. 
[Remember Islam means submission to the One and Only God.] At this 
time all the people will know the truth about him and there will be 
one religion and peace will reign until the time God will decide.  
His coming is one of the major signs of the Last Hour (the Day of 
Judgement).  But it will not be over yet.  God Alone knows its time.
>    
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus: A Prophet?!! Not Divine?!!

[off_world_beings]

Jesus came to me in a great vision and said, don't believe a word of 
the Bible. I believe Jesus.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, smile_mim mimi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Jesus: A Prophet?!!  Not Divine?!!
>    
>   I know it sounds blasphemous the first time you hear it, but in 
reality it is more demeaning to call God a human!  God literally 
contained in a man  named Jesus?  God needing sleep? God needing 
food? God falling on His Face in prayer?  to whom? God going to the 
bathroom? God being born from between the legs of a woman? God at 
the mercy of His enemies; being spit upon, beaten, mocked? God 
dying? God a man? No! And Jesus never claimed to be more than a man 
sent by God, sustained by the mercy of God and bound in obedience to 
God.
>    
>   If we wish to follow Jesus let us look at what Jesus taught, not 
Paul.  There is much confusion over which verses in the Bible are 
authentic and which are not but  we can still try to locate the true 
message of Jesus. Jesus refers to himself as a prophet upon many 
occasions; Mark (6:4) and Luke(13:33) for example.  Jesus 'speaks 
not on his own authority'; John (12:49), (4:4) and (7:16) for 
example.  Jesus denies perfect (full) knowledge: '...I know not the 
Hour but the Father in heaven Only Knoweth...'(Matthew). Neither did 
Jesus say: 'saved by my blood'. He described 'keeping the 
commandments and having faith' as the road to heaven; Matthew (22:37-
40), (4:10), (5:20), (15:7-9), (19:17), Luke (13:3) and John (17:3), 
(5:24).
>    
>   We Muslims raise Jesus up to a higher standard of respect than 
Christians do.  You might ask, "How is that so?".  First of all we 
honor Jesus in truth not in a myth.  We revere him as a mighty, 
courageous, God-fearing, obedient Prophet of God the Almighty.  
Jesus lived his life in accordance with the will of God.. 'the one 
who sent me'. We believe Jesus was chosen by God. This is a great 
honor indeed!  Chosen by God to deliver the Divine Message.  We also 
avow that he was born of a virgin, Mary.  (A fact which many 
university educated Christians do not believe!) Note that Joseph is 
not to be found in the  Islamic literature. We are told in the Quran 
that Jesus spoke from the cradle to defend his mother from the 
accusations of fornication. The Quran also states that Jesus 
fashioned a bird out of clay and it came alive by the will of God.  
He healed blind men and  lepers and raised a man from the dead , all 
by the will of God.  And, yes, he spoke with authority.  God gave
>  him the authority.  All the prophets were authorized to carry out 
Gods' mission for them and God gave each prophet special talents and 
miracles in order to enable them to carry out His plan.  We are not 
Muslims if we do not honor and believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet 
of God.  
>    
>   Remember... I said that we believe Jesus will be returned to 
earth. 
>    
>   But what do I believe Jesus will do when he returns?  
>  
>   Muslims expect Jesus to come again to set the record straight 
about his being a prophet and not one of a trinity, nor the Son of 
God.  We expect him to live among the Muslims for years in peace 
after  killing the Anti-Christ .  He will be the leader of the 
believers and will pray and judge according to Islam , which is and 
always has been the religion of all the prophets since Adam. 
[Remember Islam means submission to the One and Only God.] At this 
time all the people will know the truth about him and there will be 
one religion and peace will reign until the time God will decide.  
His coming is one of the major signs of the Last Hour (the Day of 
Judgement).  But it will not be over yet.  God Alone knows its time.
>    
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus: A Prophet?!! Not Divine?!!

[off_world_beings]

God doesn't like Religious people.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, smile_mim mimi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Jesus: A Prophet?!!  Not Divine?!!
>    
>   I know it sounds blasphemous the first time you hear it, but in 
reality it is more demeaning to call God a human!  God literally 
contained in a man  named Jesus?  God needing sleep? God needing 
food? God falling on His Face in prayer?  to whom? God going to the 
bathroom? God being born from between the legs of a woman? God at 
the mercy of His enemies; being spit upon, beaten, mocked? God 
dying? God a man? No! And Jesus never claimed to be more than a man 
sent by God, sustained by the mercy of God and bound in obedience to 
God.
>    
>   If we wish to follow Jesus let us look at what Jesus taught, not 
Paul.  There is much confusion over which verses in the Bible are 
authentic and which are not but  we can still try to locate the true 
message of Jesus. Jesus refers to himself as a prophet upon many 
occasions; Mark (6:4) and Luke(13:33) for example.  Jesus 'speaks 
not on his own authority'; John (12:49), (4:4) and (7:16) for 
example.  Jesus denies perfect (full) knowledge: '...I know not the 
Hour but the Father in heaven Only Knoweth...'(Matthew). Neither did 
Jesus say: 'saved by my blood'. He described 'keeping the 
commandments and having faith' as the road to heaven; Matthew (22:37-
40), (4:10), (5:20), (15:7-9), (19:17), Luke (13:3) and John (17:3), 
(5:24).
>    
>   We Muslims raise Jesus up to a higher standard of respect than 
Christians do.  You might ask, "How is that so?".  First of all we 
honor Jesus in truth not in a myth.  We revere him as a mighty, 
courageous, God-fearing, obedient Prophet of God the Almighty.  
Jesus lived his life in accordance with the will of God.. 'the one 
who sent me'. We believe Jesus was chosen by God. This is a great 
honor indeed!  Chosen by God to deliver the Divine Message.  We also 
avow that he was born of a virgin, Mary.  (A fact which many 
university educated Christians do not believe!) Note that Joseph is 
not to be found in the  Islamic literature. We are told in the Quran 
that Jesus spoke from the cradle to defend his mother from the 
accusations of fornication. The Quran also states that Jesus 
fashioned a bird out of clay and it came alive by the will of God.  
He healed blind men and  lepers and raised a man from the dead , all 
by the will of God.  And, yes, he spoke with authority.  God gave
>  him the authority.  All the prophets were authorized to carry out 
Gods' mission for them and God gave each prophet special talents and 
miracles in order to enable them to carry out His plan.  We are not 
Muslims if we do not honor and believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet 
of God.  
>    
>   Remember... I said that we believe Jesus will be returned to 
earth. 
>    
>   But what do I believe Jesus will do when he returns?  
>  
>   Muslims expect Jesus to come again to set the record straight 
about his being a prophet and not one of a trinity, nor the Son of 
God.  We expect him to live among the Muslims for years in peace 
after  killing the Anti-Christ .  He will be the leader of the 
believers and will pray and judge according to Islam , which is and 
always has been the religion of all the prophets since Adam. 
[Remember Islam means submission to the One and Only God.] At this 
time all the people will know the truth about him and there will be 
one religion and peace will reign until the time God will decide.  
His coming is one of the major signs of the Last Hour (the Day of 
Judgement).  But it will not be over yet.  God Alone knows its time.
>    
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus: A Prophet?!! Not Divine?!!

[off_world_beings]

Jesus never existed.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, smile_mim mimi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Jesus: A Prophet?!!  Not Divine?!!
>    
>   I know it sounds blasphemous the first time you hear it, but in 
reality it is more demeaning to call God a human!  God literally 
contained in a man  named Jesus?  God needing sleep? God needing 
food? God falling on His Face in prayer?  to whom? God going to the 
bathroom? God being born from between the legs of a woman? God at 
the mercy of His enemies; being spit upon, beaten, mocked? God 
dying? God a man? No! And Jesus never claimed to be more than a man 
sent by God, sustained by the mercy of God and bound in obedience to 
God.
>    
>   If we wish to follow Jesus let us look at what Jesus taught, not 
Paul.  There is much confusion over which verses in the Bible are 
authentic and which are not but  we can still try to locate the true 
message of Jesus. Jesus refers to himself as a prophet upon many 
occasions; Mark (6:4) and Luke(13:33) for example.  Jesus 'speaks 
not on his own authority'; John (12:49), (4:4) and (7:16) for 
example.  Jesus denies perfect (full) knowledge: '...I know not the 
Hour but the Father in heaven Only Knoweth...'(Matthew). Neither did 
Jesus say: 'saved by my blood'. He described 'keeping the 
commandments and having faith' as the road to heaven; Matthew (22:37-
40), (4:10), (5:20), (15:7-9), (19:17), Luke (13:3) and John (17:3), 
(5:24).
>    
>   We Muslims raise Jesus up to a higher standard of respect than 
Christians do.  You might ask, "How is that so?".  First of all we 
honor Jesus in truth not in a myth.  We revere him as a mighty, 
courageous, God-fearing, obedient Prophet of God the Almighty.  
Jesus lived his life in accordance with the will of God.. 'the one 
who sent me'. We believe Jesus was chosen by God. This is a great 
honor indeed!  Chosen by God to deliver the Divine Message.  We also 
avow that he was born of a virgin, Mary.  (A fact which many 
university educated Christians do not believe!) Note that Joseph is 
not to be found in the  Islamic literature. We are told in the Quran 
that Jesus spoke from the cradle to defend his mother from the 
accusations of fornication. The Quran also states that Jesus 
fashioned a bird out of clay and it came alive by the will of God.  
He healed blind men and  lepers and raised a man from the dead , all 
by the will of God.  And, yes, he spoke with authority.  God gave
>  him the authority.  All the prophets were authorized to carry out 
Gods' mission for them and God gave each prophet special talents and 
miracles in order to enable them to carry out His plan.  We are not 
Muslims if we do not honor and believe in Jesus as a mighty prophet 
of God.  
>    
>   Remember... I said that we believe Jesus will be returned to 
earth. 
>    
>   But what do I believe Jesus will do when he returns?  
>  
>   Muslims expect Jesus to come again to set the record straight 
about his being a prophet and not one of a trinity, nor the Son of 
God.  We expect him to live among the Muslims for years in peace 
after  killing the Anti-Christ .  He will be the leader of the 
believers and will pray and judge according to Islam , which is and 
always has been the religion of all the prophets since Adam. 
[Remember Islam means submission to the One and Only God.] At this 
time all the people will know the truth about him and there will be 
one religion and peace will reign until the time God will decide.  
His coming is one of the major signs of the Last Hour (the Day of 
Judgement).  But it will not be over yet.  God Alone knows its time.
>    
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 9/11 - Why can it not be unemotionally discussed, without taking sides?

[off_world_beings]

Religion is poison.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "megpp369" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> To those who read this post.
> 
> I am an English psychic who has written a book about the spiritual
> message of 9/11. It is a book where no religious group or political
> group can claim the moral high ground.
> 
> The problem I have in regards to this book is getting it of the 
ground
> and making the public aware that it is here, and that it can 
explain why
> 9/11 happened, and how it all came about.
> 
> And more importantly the book has the spiritual message of hope 
for the
> future (individually ) for all within its pages.
> 
> If I post on a site that has a religious grouping I am condemned 
as off
> message, on one site I was called evil based on how I wrote the 
word
> god, (not in caps) and on all of them in general I am patronised 
and
> basically told to go away and take my delusions with me and get 
real
> religion.
> 
> Then on the other hand when I post on sites discussing 9/11 where 
all
> that days inconsistences in regards to the truth of what the 
politicians
> have told the people of the World and not just America, I am 
classed as
> just a religious nut, and they can be just as patronising as those 
on
> the religious sites.
> 
> I am to the best of my knowledge neither delusional or a religious 
nut.
> 
> Unfortunately for Americans the book points out that 9/11 came 
about
> because god decided that it was time for America to learn some hard
> lessons in life,,, and so god made sure that the attackers on the 
day
> were successful in their mission and they suffered no setbacks.
> 
> Remember when information on the hijackers, and how they seemed to 
just
> walk in and out of the country, and then just wander around freely,
> going about their deadly business without being detected surprised 
and
> shocked Americans. I explain why they seemed irrelevant and almost
> invisible to all in the book.
> 
> This book joins the practical to the spiritual of that day.
> 
> In my post to both religious and practical 9/11 sites I have 
pointed
> people in the direction of my website www.megsabwotrfaday.com
>   where I have a copy of a 
speeding
> judgement in regards to when I was caught speeding on New Years 
eve 1995
> on the Joshua highway in 1995. (downloadable)
> 
> I have repeatedly said that the speeding judgement is spiritually
> connected to the events of 9/11, not one person has attempted to 
engage
> me sensibly or rationally on this in reply post it is as 
though they
> know that they cannot take me on in regards to this, because it is
> beyond their comprehension that a speeding ticket received by an
> Englishman in Arizona in 1995 can be spiritually relevant to that
> extraordinary day in history, 9/11.
> 
> IT IS A CHALLENGE TO ALL! both religious and practical minded 
people
> from god. On this issue god has thrown down the gauntlet. And 
basically
> say`s, "HOW WILL YOU EXPLAIN THIS!"
> 
> But both religious and the practical minded people avoid this 
issue!
> 
> Also in the book I give the spiritual message of why god arranged 
and
> designed our solar system so that when the moon passed between the 
sun
> and earth it fitted perfectly.
> 
> Religion does not have all the answers, and neither do those 
people who
> consider themselves above religion.
> 
> This book is the meeting point between the religious world and the
> practical world!
> 
> It needs people to read it,,, not to make me rich or famous,,, but 
to
> prevent the same mistakes being made again in both America and the
> world!
> 
> I also have some spiritual lessons on the events surrounding 
hurricane
> Katrina,,, and the inquiry's into 9/11 and the Columbia shuttle
> disaster and the inquiry that never took place into the vote 
frauds
> that have allegedly taken place regarding the targeting and 
denying of
> some black Americans and their right to vote.
> 
> This is not a one subject one dimensional book just about 9/11, it 
has
> many spiritual lessons that are meant to help all within it.
> 
> But 9/11 was a point in time where god has just basically said
> "enough is enough I will now show you who really pulls the 
invisible
> strings in this world, and in this universe"
> 
> And it is not the practical politicians and it is not the 
politicised
> religious leaders!
> 
> If you read my website please take your time in looking it over,,, 
there
> are many things there that escape the eye if you rush it through.
> 
> Details of my book and how to obtain it at discount can be seen on 
my
> website www.megsabwotrfaday.com 
> 
> To those moderators and site owners that think because I am 
seemingly
> pushing a book/product,,, I ask them to think about it if they 
want to
> not post this message,,, I am bringing about something that needs 
to be
> talked about this may be the only way it can be brought into 
the
> open/light.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy--from a lurker

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonybliss_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> 
> What if you gave an argument and nobody came  

If a new level of discourse is going to emerge, this is the 
precursor.  By the way, I didn't even read what came before this 
line.  Sounded like the same old crap.  Not even sure why you felt the 
need to comment on it - whatever it was you said.  Personally, I 
think, absent the petty arguing, things will get boring around here 
for a while.  Then somethng new will emerge.  I hope it gets a chance.

lurk
> 
>
>











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 5/13/06 10:22 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> >  wrote:
> >> 
> >> on 5/13/06 7:02 AM, Jason at jedi_spock@ wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Maharishi has a lot Money.  Women are attracted to people
> > with loot of
> >>> Money.  
> >>> 
> >>> Did Maharishi give those women Money or something,??
> >> 
> >> In one case he did. After Jennifer left, she got substantial
> > payments for a
> >> while. I don¹t know if it was considered hush money or support
> > money.
> > 
> > The BIG question here is:
> > 
> > Was the money given in cash?  Or cheque?
> > 
> > Paper trail...
> 
> 35 year old paper trail.
>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy--from a lurker

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonybliss_ff  
> wrote:
> 
> > A number of people besides me during that "feud" thread called 
Barry
> > on his behavior and actions. While he met the criticisms with 
> > bravado and is defintiely still Barry, he also seems to have 
> > modified his bahavior substantially. (I'm not positing a causal 
> > relationship between forum members expressing their 
dissatisfaction 
> > with the feud and his changing his behavior, but it's a pleasant 
> > correlation ;)--or is that a pissant correlation? I get mixed up)
> > 
> > But Judy, like so many others who have commented recently, I 
think
> > it is you who need learn something from this one. Most people 
here
> > like you, and when people who like you are telling you that your
> > behavior is out of line and needs to be examined, maybe it's 
time to
> > listen to them. Shemp's "statutue of limitations" comment pretty 
> > well sums it up, I think.
> > 
> > I'm posting this because I had the lurking temerity to jump into 
the
> > other discussion and express my incredulity at some of Barry's
> > behavior and some sense of fair play, misguided or not, says I
> > should balance it out. The anonymous pissant lurker who couldn't 
> > let Barry off the hook, can't let you off either. You 
appreciated 
> > my comments about Barry, I hope you appreciate these too.
> 
> Ya know, I'd be a whole lot more open to your
> comments if you showed any sign of having read my
> responses to similar critiques from others.
> 
> If it weren't for posts from two brave souls who had
> read enough of the discussion between me and Curtis
> to have a relatively clear idea of what actually went
> on, and several supportive emails from folks who also
> had a clear picture but didn't quite have the nerve
> to buck the mob mind and post publicly, I'd think I
> was living in some alternate universe, and that the
> critics had read an entirely different exchange than
> the one I actually had with Curtis.
> 
> I've done my best to correct the record, including
> quotations and references to specific posts, to
> absolutely zero effect.  Not one of the critics has
> said, "Oh, so *that's* what really happened--I
> missed those particular posts.  Sorry!" nor has any
> of them addressed what I said substantively in any
> way, even to disagree.
> 
> You can go back and read my responses to the critics
> if you have any interest in what really took place.
> I'm just going to reproduce here part of one post to
> Rick (which he, of course, ignored completely) that
> addresses your comment above about how Barry has
> allegedly modified his behavior (I don't quite see it,
> but anyway...) and how you apparently don't think I
> have.  Here it is (Rick first):
> 
> > I have my critics on this forum, and
> > when any of them criticizes me I don't brush them off or go
> > ballistic trying to defend myself. I feel somewhat chastised and 
I
> > take a moment to reflect on whether their criticism may be true.
> 
> Rick, think a minute.  Why do you imagine my first post
> to Curtis was as cordial as it was?  And why did I try
> to keep him from provoking an argument with me?
> 
> Why do you think I've been cutting short the arguments
> Shemp has tried to start with me lately?
> 
> Please give this a moment's reflection.
> 
> When you've been doing your best to *avoid* the kind
> of thing folks have expressed their displeasure at,
> and they then accuse you of doing it anyway, it's very
> difficult not to speak up and point out that *this*
> time they've gotten it wrong.  You'd have to be a
> masochist, or have very low self-regard, to meekly
> take the attacks without objection.
> 
> You see me being testy, but what you *don't* see is
> all the times when I've refrained from being testy
> recently.  I've been genuinely trying to refrain more
> and more.
> 
> That's why I attempted to abort the discussion with
> Curtis.
> 
> For instance, I realize that I have
> > been overly obsessed with the MMY/sex thing and I've done a fair
> > amount of soul searching on why that bothers me so much. If
> > virtually everyone who cared to comment were repeatedly pointing
> > out to me that I had a tendency which seriously annoyed them, I
> > think it would result in some reflection.
> 
> It did with me, and I've been acting on it.  Not
> perfectly, but I've been trying.








Energizer bunny.












> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Having said that, I'm joining curtis in backing out the door 
> > 
> > What if you gave an argument and nobody came  
> > 
> > Disclaimers :)
> > Nobody put words in my mouth.
> > Nobody gave me a script.
> > I have never corresponded with Barry or anyone else on this forum
> > privately.
> >
>











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[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy--from a lurker

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonybliss_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> A number of people besides me during that "feud" thread called Barry
> on his behavior and actions. While he met the criticisms with 
> bravado and is defintiely still Barry, he also seems to have 
> modified his bahavior substantially. (I'm not positing a causal 
> relationship between forum members expressing their dissatisfaction 
> with the feud and his changing his behavior, but it's a pleasant 
> correlation ;)--or is that a pissant correlation? I get mixed up)
> 
> But Judy, like so many others who have commented recently, I think
> it is you who need learn something from this one. Most people here
> like you, and when people who like you are telling you that your
> behavior is out of line and needs to be examined, maybe it's time to
> listen to them. Shemp's "statutue of limitations" comment pretty 
> well sums it up, I think.
> 
> I'm posting this because I had the lurking temerity to jump into the
> other discussion and express my incredulity at some of Barry's
> behavior and some sense of fair play, misguided or not, says I
> should balance it out. The anonymous pissant lurker who couldn't 
> let Barry off the hook, can't let you off either. You appreciated 
> my comments about Barry, I hope you appreciate these too.

Ya know, I'd be a whole lot more open to your
comments if you showed any sign of having read my
responses to similar critiques from others.

If it weren't for posts from two brave souls who had
read enough of the discussion between me and Curtis
to have a relatively clear idea of what actually went
on, and several supportive emails from folks who also
had a clear picture but didn't quite have the nerve
to buck the mob mind and post publicly, I'd think I
was living in some alternate universe, and that the
critics had read an entirely different exchange than
the one I actually had with Curtis.

I've done my best to correct the record, including
quotations and references to specific posts, to
absolutely zero effect.  Not one of the critics has
said, "Oh, so *that's* what really happened--I
missed those particular posts.  Sorry!" nor has any
of them addressed what I said substantively in any
way, even to disagree.

You can go back and read my responses to the critics
if you have any interest in what really took place.
I'm just going to reproduce here part of one post to
Rick (which he, of course, ignored completely) that
addresses your comment above about how Barry has
allegedly modified his behavior (I don't quite see it,
but anyway...) and how you apparently don't think I
have.  Here it is (Rick first):

> I have my critics on this forum, and
> when any of them criticizes me I don't brush them off or go
> ballistic trying to defend myself. I feel somewhat chastised and I
> take a moment to reflect on whether their criticism may be true.

Rick, think a minute.  Why do you imagine my first post
to Curtis was as cordial as it was?  And why did I try
to keep him from provoking an argument with me?

Why do you think I've been cutting short the arguments
Shemp has tried to start with me lately?

Please give this a moment's reflection.

When you've been doing your best to *avoid* the kind
of thing folks have expressed their displeasure at,
and they then accuse you of doing it anyway, it's very
difficult not to speak up and point out that *this*
time they've gotten it wrong.  You'd have to be a
masochist, or have very low self-regard, to meekly
take the attacks without objection.

You see me being testy, but what you *don't* see is
all the times when I've refrained from being testy
recently.  I've been genuinely trying to refrain more
and more.

That's why I attempted to abort the discussion with
Curtis.

For instance, I realize that I have
> been overly obsessed with the MMY/sex thing and I've done a fair
> amount of soul searching on why that bothers me so much. If
> virtually everyone who cared to comment were repeatedly pointing
> out to me that I had a tendency which seriously annoyed them, I
> think it would result in some reflection.

It did with me, and I've been acting on it.  Not
perfectly, but I've been trying.








> 
> Having said that, I'm joining curtis in backing out the door 
> 
> What if you gave an argument and nobody came  
> 
> Disclaimers :)
> Nobody put words in my mouth.
> Nobody gave me a script.
> I have never corresponded with Barry or anyone else on this forum
> privately.
>










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[Rick Archer]

on 5/13/06 10:22 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> on 5/13/06 7:02 AM, Jason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maharishi has a lot Money.  Women are attracted to people
> with loot of
>>> Money.  
>>> 
>>> Did Maharishi give those women Money or something,??
>> 
>> In one case he did. After Jennifer left, she got substantial
> payments for a
>> while. I don¹t know if it was considered hush money or support
> money.
> 
> The BIG question here is:
> 
> Was the money given in cash?  Or cheque?
> 
> Paper trail...

35 year old paper trail.








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[FairfieldLife] For Judy--from a lurker

[anonybliss_ff]

>From a lurker--I posted a while back (anonymously, for which I have my
reasons, whether Barry likes that or not--but that won't matter cause
he will never read this, nor think it has any value, which is neither
here not there) regarding the "feud" between you and Barry, expressing
that I thought you were both obsessed and also pointing out my
incredulity at the vitriol of some of Barry's expressed opinions.

A number of people besides me during that "feud" thread called Barry
on his behavior and actions. While he met the criticisms with bravado
and is defintiely still Barry, he also seems to have modified his
bahavior substantially. (I'm not positing a causal relationship
between forum members expressing their dissatisfaction with the feud
and his changing his behavior, but it's a pleasant correlation ;)--or
is that a pissant correlation? I get mixed up)

But Judy, like so many others who have commented recently, I think it
it is you who need learn something from this one. Most people here
like you, and when people who like you are telling you that your
behavior is out of line and needs to be examined, maybe it's time to
listen to them. Shemp's "statutue of limitations" comment pretty well
sums it up, I think.

I'm posting this because I had the lurking temerity to jump into the
other discussion and express my incredulity at some of Barry's
behavior and some sense of fair play, misguided or not, says I should
balance it out. The anonymous pissant lurker who couldn't let Barry
off the hook, can't let you off either. You appreciated my comments
about Barry, I hope you appreciate these too.

Having said that, I'm joining curtis in backing out the door 

What if you gave an argument and nobody came  

Disclaimers :)
Nobody put words in my mouth.
Nobody gave me a script.
I have never corresponded with Barry or anyone else on this forum
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 5/13/06 7:02 AM, Jason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Maharishi has a lot Money.  Women are attracted to people 
with loot of
> > Money.  
> > 
> > Did Maharishi give those women Money or something,??
> 
> In one case he did. After Jennifer left, she got substantial 
payments for a
> while. I don¹t know if it was considered hush money or support 
money. Jerry
> Jarvis rather resented having to give it to her. I don¹t know if 
others got
> money, but some got fancy saris, jewelry, etc.
>

What's Jerry's email address? I'm going to write to him, tell him I 
too was abused by Maharishi, sit back and watch the checks roll in! 
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[FairfieldLife] [was Re: The Holy Grail on Ebay] Vices

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Or at least a share in it. This auction was listed as 
> > > > having been "removed by Ebay" today, so it was a scam.
> > > > But it's a cute scam...wonder how much they netted.
> > > > 
> > > I just hope I haven't lost my money.
> > 
> > What would your choice of beverage been, had they
> > found it and you got to take your "partnership"
> > sip from ghe grail? I think I would've gone with
> > Coke, because I've got a health-food nut friend
> > who keeps telling me they'll kill me, and I would
> > have liked to see her face when I wound up immortal. :-)
> >
> 
> I would have to go with a decent cappuccino, I think coffee is the 
> elixir of life anyway. And it's my only vice!
>
Aren't vices (gambling, lust, drugs (incl. coffee), and alcohol) 
kind of like mistakes, more of a subjective reckoning that we are 
doing wrong, than anything objectively wrong?

At one point or another, I've indulged in all of the above vices and 
for the most part found the experiences quite enjoyable. The dotted 
lines that I have now drawn for myself for such vices, are largely 
of my own making, dependent on whether I think/feel such an 
indulgence is appropriate or not.

Similar to whether a mistake is a mistake, with vices, timing is 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Holy Grail on Ebay

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:
> > >
> > > Or at least a share in it. This auction was listed as 
> > > having been "removed by Ebay" today, so it was a scam.
> > > But it's a cute scam...wonder how much they netted.
> > > 
> > I just hope I haven't lost my money.
> 
> What would your choice of beverage been, had they
> found it and you got to take your "partnership"
> sip from ghe grail? I think I would've gone with
> Coke, because I've got a health-food nut friend
> who keeps telling me they'll kill me, and I would
> have liked to see her face when I wound up immortal. :-)

Gotta still opt for the watered down Mescal with the soy worm...










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
 from What is Enlightenment magazine.
> 
...and let's not forget the Who, When, Where, and How is Enlightenment 
too! Of course, it'd be a much larger magazine...Happy Saturday 
morning everyone!









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 5/13/06 7:02 AM, Jason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Maharishi has a lot Money.  Women are attracted to people 
with loot of
> > Money.  
> > 
> > Did Maharishi give those women Money or something,??
> 
> In one case he did. After Jennifer left, she got substantial 
payments for a
> while. I don¹t know if it was considered hush money or support 
money.





The BIG question here is:

Was the money given in cash?  Or cheque?

Paper trail...





> Jerry
> Jarvis rather resented having to give it to her. I don¹t know if 
others got
> money, but some got fancy saris, jewelry, etc.
>










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Re: [FairfieldLife] 9/11 - Why can it not be unemotionally discussed, without taking sides?

[Peter]

Have you tried high colonics?

--- megpp369 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> To those who read this post.
> 
> I am an English psychic who has written a book about
> the spiritual
> message of 9/11. It is a book where no religious
> group or political
> group can claim the moral high ground.
> 
> The problem I have in regards to this book is
> getting it of the ground
> and making the public aware that it is here, and
> that it can explain why
> 9/11 happened, and how it all came about.
> 
> And more importantly the book has the spiritual
> message of hope for the
> future (individually ) for all within its pages.
> 
> If I post on a site that has a religious grouping I
> am condemned as off
> message, on one site I was called evil based on how
> I wrote the word
> god, (not in caps) and on all of them in general I
> am patronised and
> basically told to go away and take my delusions with
> me and get real
> religion.
> 
> Then on the other hand when I post on sites
> discussing 9/11 where all
> that days inconsistences in regards to the truth of
> what the politicians
> have told the people of the World and not just
> America, I am classed as
> just a religious nut, and they can be just as
> patronising as those on
> the religious sites.
> 
> I am to the best of my knowledge neither delusional
> or a religious nut.
> 
> Unfortunately for Americans the book points out that
> 9/11 came about
> because god decided that it was time for America to
> learn some hard
> lessons in life,,, and so god made sure that the
> attackers on the day
> were successful in their mission and they suffered
> no setbacks.
> 
> Remember when information on the hijackers, and how
> they seemed to just
> walk in and out of the country, and then just wander
> around freely,
> going about their deadly business without being
> detected surprised and
> shocked Americans. I explain why they seemed
> irrelevant and almost
> invisible to all in the book.
> 
> This book joins the practical to the spiritual of
> that day.
> 
> In my post to both religious and practical 9/11
> sites I have pointed
> people in the direction of my website
> www.megsabwotrfaday.com
>   where I have a
> copy of a speeding
> judgement in regards to when I was caught speeding
> on New Years eve 1995
> on the Joshua highway in 1995. (downloadable)
> 
> I have repeatedly said that the speeding judgement
> is spiritually
> connected to the events of 9/11, not one person has
> attempted to engage
> me sensibly or rationally on this in reply post
> it is as though they
> know that they cannot take me on in regards to this,
> because it is
> beyond their comprehension that a speeding ticket
> received by an
> Englishman in Arizona in 1995 can be spiritually
> relevant to that
> extraordinary day in history, 9/11.
> 
> IT IS A CHALLENGE TO ALL! both religious and
> practical minded people
> from god. On this issue god has thrown down the
> gauntlet. And basically
> say`s, "HOW WILL YOU EXPLAIN THIS!"
> 
> But both religious and the practical minded people
> avoid this issue!
> 
> Also in the book I give the spiritual message of why
> god arranged and
> designed our solar system so that when the moon
> passed between the sun
> and earth it fitted perfectly.
> 
> Religion does not have all the answers, and neither
> do those people who
> consider themselves above religion.
> 
> This book is the meeting point between the religious
> world and the
> practical world!
> 
> It needs people to read it,,, not to make me rich or
> famous,,, but to
> prevent the same mistakes being made again in both
> America and the
> world!
> 
> I also have some spiritual lessons on the events
> surrounding hurricane
> Katrina,,, and the inquiry's into 9/11 and the
> Columbia shuttle
> disaster and the inquiry that never took place
> into the vote frauds
> that have allegedly taken place regarding the
> targeting and denying of
> some black Americans and their right to vote.
> 
> This is not a one subject one dimensional book just
> about 9/11, it has
> many spiritual lessons that are meant to help all
> within it.
> 
> But 9/11 was a point in time where god has just
> basically said
> "enough is enough I will now show you who really
> pulls the invisible
> strings in this world, and in this universe"
> 
> And it is not the practical politicians and it is
> not the politicised
> religious leaders!
> 
> If you read my website please take your time in
> looking it over,,, there
> are many things there that escape the eye if you
> rush it through.
> 
> Details of my book and how to obtain it at discount
> can be seen on my
> website www.megsabwotrfaday.com
> 
> 
> To those moderators and site owners that think
> because I am seemingly
> pushing a book/product,,, I ask them to think about
> it if they want to
> not post this message,,, I am bringing about
> something that needs to be
> talked about this may be the only

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Holy Grail on Ebay

[hugheshugo]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:
> > >
> > > Or at least a share in it. This auction was listed as 
> > > having been "removed by Ebay" today, so it was a scam.
> > > But it's a cute scam...wonder how much they netted.
> > > 
> > I just hope I haven't lost my money.
> 
> What would your choice of beverage been, had they
> found it and you got to take your "partnership"
> sip from ghe grail? I think I would've gone with
> Coke, because I've got a health-food nut friend
> who keeps telling me they'll kill me, and I would
> have liked to see her face when I wound up immortal. :-)
>

I would have to go with a decent cappuccino, I think coffee is the 
elixir of life anyway. And it's my only vice!












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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Holy Grail on Ebay

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 5/13/06 10:10:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What 
  would your choice of beverage been, had theyfound it and you got to take 
  your "partnership"sip from ghe grail? I think I would've gone 
  withCoke, because I've got a health-food nut friendwho keeps telling 
  me they'll kill me, and I wouldhave liked to see her face when I wound up 
  immortal. :-)

Better yet if you really had the grail you could change 
communion from wine and wafers to beer and nuts, might have a bigger draw in 
church.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 9/11 - Why can it not be unemotionally discussed, without taking sides?

[Peter]

You know, that level-headedness and rational discourse
is going to get you thrown out of the cult one of
these days.

--- hugheshugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "megpp369"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I have repeatedly said that the speeding
> judgement is spiritually
> > connected to the events of 9/11, not one person
> has attempted to 
> engage
> > me sensibly or rationally on this in reply
> post it is as 
> though they
> > know that they cannot take me on in regards to
> this, because it is
> > beyond their comprehension that a speeding ticket
> received by an
> > Englishman in Arizona in 1995 can be spiritually
> relevant to that
> > extraordinary day in history, 9/11.
> > 
> > IT IS A CHALLENGE TO ALL! both religious and
> practical minded 
> people
> > from god. On this issue god has thrown down the
> gauntlet. And 
> basically
> > say`s, "HOW WILL YOU EXPLAIN THIS!"
> > 
> > But both religious and the practical minded people
> avoid this 
> issue!
> 
> Well, I had a look at your website just to see if I
> could explain it 
> and I can see no link whatsoever between the two.
> Except possibly 
> that you got the thing in Bagdad Arizona, but as
> Iraq had nothing to 
> do with 9/11 I guess you'd better let god of the
> hook for this one.
> 
> Plus there is a six year delay between events, I
> don't think you are 
> going to make headline news with this I'm afraid.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Also in the book I give the spiritual message of
> why god arranged 
> and
> > designed our solar system so that when the moon
> passed between the 
> sun
> > and earth it fitted perfectly.
> 
> This is a common mistake, the moon isn't a perfect
> fit and the 
> quality of an eclipse also depends on where the
> earth is in it's 
> elliptical orbit.
> 
> Also, the moon is slipping away from us by nearly
> two inches a year 
> and will eventually fly off into space, and then
> life on earth will 
> REALLY be in trouble but the human race will be long
> dead by then so 
> don't go losing sleep over it
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 9/11 - Why can it not be unemotionally discussed, without taking sides?

[hugheshugo]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "megpp369" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
>> I have repeatedly said that the speeding judgement is spiritually
> connected to the events of 9/11, not one person has attempted to 
engage
> me sensibly or rationally on this in reply post it is as 
though they
> know that they cannot take me on in regards to this, because it is
> beyond their comprehension that a speeding ticket received by an
> Englishman in Arizona in 1995 can be spiritually relevant to that
> extraordinary day in history, 9/11.
> 
> IT IS A CHALLENGE TO ALL! both religious and practical minded 
people
> from god. On this issue god has thrown down the gauntlet. And 
basically
> say`s, "HOW WILL YOU EXPLAIN THIS!"
> 
> But both religious and the practical minded people avoid this 
issue!

Well, I had a look at your website just to see if I could explain it 
and I can see no link whatsoever between the two. Except possibly 
that you got the thing in Bagdad Arizona, but as Iraq had nothing to 
do with 9/11 I guess you'd better let god of the hook for this one.

Plus there is a six year delay between events, I don't think you are 
going to make headline news with this I'm afraid.



> 
> Also in the book I give the spiritual message of why god arranged 
and
> designed our solar system so that when the moon passed between the 
sun
> and earth it fitted perfectly.

This is a common mistake, the moon isn't a perfect fit and the 
quality of an eclipse also depends on where the earth is in it's 
elliptical orbit.

Also, the moon is slipping away from us by nearly two inches a year 
and will eventually fly off into space, and then life on earth will 
REALLY be in trouble but the human race will be long dead by then so 
don't go losing sleep over it



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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Holy Grail on Ebay

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > Or at least a share in it. This auction was listed as 
> > having been "removed by Ebay" today, so it was a scam.
> > But it's a cute scam...wonder how much they netted.
> > 
> I just hope I haven't lost my money.

What would your choice of beverage been, had they
found it and you got to take your "partnership"
sip from ghe grail? I think I would've gone with
Coke, because I've got a health-food nut friend
who keeps telling me they'll kill me, and I would
have liked to see her face when I wound up immortal. :-)











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
>  Maharishi has a lot Money.  Women are attracted to people 
with loot
> of Money.



Freudian slip?


> 
>  Did Maharishi give those women Money or something,??
> 
> 
> ---  "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> 
> > A few years ago I made this very point when someone who had been 
> involved with Muktananda and had been abused had visited our site. 
After
> I said what I did, one of the FFL members emailed me on the  side
> telling me how horrible I was to suggest such a thing.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Holy Grail on Ebay

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> Or at least a share in it. This auction was listed as 
> having been "removed by Ebay" today, so it was a scam.
> But it's a cute scam...wonder how much they netted.
> 
I just hope I haven't lost my money.









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[FairfieldLife] German pundit scam

[Rick Archer]

Title: German pundit scam





Rumor has it there’s a big campaign to get a large pundit group in Germany, with the usual threats of dire consequences if they don’t succeed. Can any of our German members report on this?







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?





on 5/13/06 7:02 AM, Jason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Maharishi has a lot Money.  Women are attracted to people with loot of Money.  

    Did Maharishi give those women Money or something,??

In one case he did. After Jennifer left, she got substantial payments for a while. I don’t know if it was considered hush money or support money. Jerry Jarvis rather resented having to give it to her. I don’t know if others got money, but some got fancy saris, jewelry, etc.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 9/11 - Why can it not be unemotionally discussed, without taking sides?

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "megpp369" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> To those who read this post.
> 
> I am an English psychic who has written a book about the spiritual
> message of 9/11. It is a book where no religious group or political
> group can claim the moral high ground.

Won't sell, for that very reason.












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[FairfieldLife] Re: 9/11 - Why can it not be unemotionally discussed, without taking sides?

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "megpp369" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> To those who read this post.
> 
> I am an English psychic who has written a book about the spiritual
> message of 9/11. It is a book where no religious group or political
> group can claim the moral high ground.

Won't sell.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Clean up your act, please

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[I wrote:]
> > Why do you think I've been cutting short the arguments
> > Shemp has tried to start with me lately?
> 
> Those aren't arguments I'm trying to start with you, Judy, those 
> are attempts to have fun at your expense.

Right, by trying to start arguments with me.

> I long ago learned that I can't win any arguments with you.  You 
> have never been wrong.

Well, not in any arguments with you, at any rate.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Clean up your act, please

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[quoting me]
> > One person, Mike Hutchinson, has had the guts to
> > come out of lurkdom and buck the mob mind, apparently
> > because he actually read the posts in the exchange.
> 
> I'd like everyone hear to search their memories,
> and try to figure out exactly *who* it is on FFL
> who consistently appeals *to* "mob mind." Who is
> it who actively calls on other posters to put
> down the ones she doesn't like? Who is it who 
> praises other posters here when they "pile on"
> to someone she has just trashed? Who is it who
> actually writes diatribes berating the people on
> FFL for *not* "standing up" to me and others she
> doesn't like, suggesting that they're somehow
> failing on their god-given duties to do so?

The hypocrisy of this post from Barry is so
extraordinary it went right by me the first time
I read it.

Aside from the lie that I've done this to more than
one poster--that one being Barry, of course--and the
lie that I "praise" other posters for "piling on"
after I've criticized him, and that I claim it's
their "god-given" duty to trash him--notice that in
this post, Barry does PRECISELY what he criticizes me
for doing (including the things I *don't* do).

Nor is this the only post in which he has done so.

He is, in fact, describing his own posts attacking me.

This is spiritual and moral corruption of the very
highest order.

> And now, when a few people are coming out of the
> woodwork and saying what they think of her and
> her tactics, suddenly it's "mob mind."
>
> Well live with it, babe. You cultivated this mind-
> set here, and now it's aimed at you. Doesn't feel
> good, does it?
>
> Personally I am *heartened* that a few people have
> spoken up. I was beginning to wonder what people
> really felt. Now I know. 
> 
> But my sincere advice to those who have spoken up
> to Judy at this point and told her what they think
> of her is that they should now LET IT GO.
> 
> The horribly damaged ego that does these things
> WANTS you to keep interacting with her and arguing
> with her. It is how it keeps itself alive. She
> *thrives* on people arguing with her, and her ego
> thus getting another chance to assert itself and 
> prove itself "right" and the others "wrong" and 
> deserving of only contempt. It's the whole game 
> that keeps her able to keep doing this shit. 
> It's a kind of co-dependency.
> 
> LET IT GO. The longer we fall for her goading and
> get into head-to-head confrontations with her, the
> sicker she gets. Out of COMPASSION, don't give her
> what she wants. When she tries to provoke you into
> a fight, turn the other cheek, or butt cheek, if
> you have to get in one last dig before walking away.
> 
> But DO walk away.
> 
> In my considered and battered opinion, having dealt
> with this woman for over ten years, it's the best
> thing you could possibly do -- for your own state
> of consciousness, and for hers.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[feste37]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> > > I have been working with women that has been abused. And I have 
> no 
> > > doubt that a sexual relationship between the Guru/Maharishi and 
> a 
> > > devotee, is abuse. The feelings of love that we had for MMY 
> (both 
> > > men and women), the power of his charisma, made these women to 
> > > victims. I will say that MMY showed no respect for these women 
> and 
> > > that he is the one to blame. 
> > > Ingegerd
> > 
> > 
> > How do you know what happened? Were you there? You talk 
> about "abuse" 
> > and "victims" but you can't possibly know what actually went on, 
> if anything.  
> > Why are you so ready to assign blame for incidents you know so 
> little about?
> 
> I have read the things that have come up in FFL and in Connie 
> Larssons book, and I believe what it indicates happened, and I feel 
> sorry for the women. They are the weak part here, and if they come 
> out and tell about their experiences, why should I not believe them? 
> Ingegerd
> >
>
For starters, you only have one side of the story. MMY will never tell his, so 
you will never know what really went on. My opinion is that these women 
should stop whining about something that happened so long ago. They bear 
some responsibility, too. We were all young and stupid once, but why tell the 
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[FairfieldLife] Hawthorn hedge, sparrows and M-effect?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[Jason]

 
    Maharishi has a lot Money.  Women are attracted to people with loot of Money.  
    Did Maharishi give those women Money or something,??
---  "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> A few years ago I made this very point when someone who had been  involved with Muktananda and had been abused had visited our site. After I said what I did, one of the FFL members emailed me on the  side telling me how horrible I was to suggest such a thing.






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[FairfieldLife] Birds of a feather: sparrow!

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[FairfieldLife] The Holy Grail on Ebay

[TurquoiseB]

Or at least a share in it. This auction was listed as 
having been "removed by Ebay" today, so it was a scam.
But it's a cute scam...wonder how much they netted.


This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for an investment "Angel" 
to come in at the ground level to purchase a two per cent equity 
share of the Holy Grail. 

A two per cent share of the Holy Grail will be yours in the event of 
the Grail being found by the sellers, who are two seasoned Grail 
hunters from the UK. The Grail hunters have amassed a vast knowledge 
of Grail lore over a period of more than 20 years and have close 
connections with leading figures in some of the preeminent 
clandestine organisations associated with the Holy Grail, such as 
the Knights Templars and the Priory of Sion. 

We have drafted a document which details the material terms of the 
deal we are offering. It reads as follows: 

This Agreement dated ... grants 
to .. (hereinafter known 
as the Grail Stakeholder) a 2% (two per cent) beneficial but not 
executive ownership stake in the 
artifact/substance/device/phenomenon/episode/entity/some other stuff 
or thing popularly known as "the Holy Grail" (hereinafter known as 
the Holy Grail) in the event of the aforesaid Holy Grail being found 
by 
 
(hereinafter known as the Grail Finders). 

The parties agree the following terms: 

(1) The benefits of this Agreement comes into effect upon the 
finding of the Holy Grail by the Grail Finders. Except as otherwise 
agreed in clause 3(ii) of this contract, this Agreement does not 
apply to, and the Grail Stakeholder hereby acknowledges that the 
Grail Stakeholder shall have in perpetuity no claim to, any income 
or assets in any way associated with the Holy Grail that may have 
been generated or owned by the Grail Finders prior to their finding 
of the Grail. 

(2) If the Holy Grail manifests itself in physical form, the parties 
agree that in the event this physical form may be deemed to have 
financial or otherwise economic value, the Grail Stakeholder will be 
entitled to certain shares of the generated revenue. To this end, 
the parties agree as follows: 

(i) In the event that the Grail Finders decide at their sole 
discretion to sell the Grail to a third party (including but not 
limited to the Pope or any other certified personal representative 
of God, or any other nominated agent appointed by God to act in 
God's name) the Grail Stakeholder will receive 2% (two per cent) of 
the identifiable net receipts realised from such sale. 

(ii) If the Grail Finders at their sole discretion decide to exhibit 
the Grail to the general public, the Grail Stakeholder will receive 
2% (two per cent) of the Grail Finders' identifiable annual net 
profits generated from such an exhibition. 

(iii) If the Grail Finders use the Holy Grail as a principal 
attraction around which to establish a business venture of any other 
nature (including but not limited to a Holy Grail Theme Park), the 
Grail Stakeholder will receive 2% (two per cent) of the Grail 
Finders' identifiable annual net profits from such a venture. 

(3) If the Holy Grail manifests itself as a cup or a chalice or a 
bowl or some other kind of vessel for holding liquid, it is hereby 
agreed that: 

(i) The Grail Stakeholder will be allowed one sip from the vessel of 
a beverage of the Grail Stakeholder's choosing, which beverage to be 
provided by the Grail Stakeholder at the Grail Stakeholder's sole 
expense. The Grail Stakeholder may thereby gain eternal life and the 
healing of all physical ailments. However, because the Grail Finders 
cannot be held responsible for the mysterious powers of the Grail 
and all that, the Grail Finders shall not be held responsible for 
any failure on the part of the Holy Grail to give eternal life to 
the Grail Stakeholder, or to alleviate physical ailments, and the 
Grail Stakeholder hereby warrants to make no claims of any kind 
against the Grail Finders in the event of such failure. 

(ii) The Grail Stakeholder will receive 2% (two per cent) of the 
Grail Finders' identifiable annual net profits from the sale to 
third parties of sips from the vessel, whether such sales are made 
before (through "option to sip" agreements) or after the discovery 
of the Holy Grail. 

(4) If the Holy Grail manifests itself as a person (somebody of the 
direct bloodline of Christ and/or the ancient Merovingian kings, for 
instance), the Grail Finders will endeavour to secure reasonable 
access to the said person for the Grail Stakeholder to film and take 
photographs. 

(5) If the Holy Grail does not manifest itself in physical form and 
cannot be financially or otherwise exploited in any way, the Grail 
Finders will do their best to make sure that the Grail Stakeholder 
experiences whatever experiences can be experienced through, with, 
from, or as a result of, the Holy Grail on a pro-ra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

[Ingegerd]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" 
 
> wrote:
> 
> > I have been working with women that has been abused. And I have 
no 
> > doubt that a sexual relationship between the Guru/Maharishi and 
a 
> > devotee, is abuse. The feelings of love that we had for MMY 
(both 
> > men and women), the power of his charisma, made these women to 
> > victims. I will say that MMY showed no respect for these women 
and 
> > that he is the one to blame. 
> > Ingegerd
> 
> 
> How do you know what happened? Were you there? You talk 
about "abuse" 
> and "victims" but you can't possibly know what actually went on, 
if anything.  
> Why are you so ready to assign blame for incidents you know so 
little about?

I have read the things that have come up in FFL and in Connie 
Larssons book, and I believe what it indicates happened, and I feel 
sorry for the women. They are the weak part here, and if they come 
out and tell about their experiences, why should I not believe them? 
Ingegerd
>











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