[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Jai Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhawani_shank2000 no_re...@... wrote: This is Pandit Bhawani Shankar Kaushik From Allahabad India, Warmest greetings to all of you from Allahabad. I hope that you all member of this Group are happy and well and doing fine. I have a question to ask to you people in his group that who is the person who is taking care of every thing in the western country. Like in India we have Griesh Ji Who is taking care of every thing. All the very best for you all Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] 'Nude Under Clouds and Ghosts'
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hello Jai Guru Dev
Thanks Rick for posting this... I spoke with him because I am going in Alhabad soon. Nice guy..! 2009/5/24 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto: fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *bhawani_shank2000 *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2009 12:00 AM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Hello Jai Guru Dev This is Pandit Bhawani Shankar Kaushik From Allahabad India, This fellow is one of the pundits in the TM pundit group in Allahabad. He's been a pundit for 18 years and is on faculty there, teaching Yajur Veda chanting to younger pundits. I know this because he Skyped me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Jai Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawke...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhawani_shank2000 no_reply@ wrote: This is Pandit Bhawani Shankar Kaushik From Allahabad India, Warmest greetings to all of you from Allahabad. I hope that you all member of this Group are happy and well and doing fine. I have a question to ask to you people in his group that who is the person who is taking care of every thing in the western country. Like in India we have Griesh Ji Who is taking care of every thing. All the very best for you all Jai Guru Dev I see that the comment about Brevity is the soul of wit made an impression on you, Guy. :-) I suspect that the person posting this meant to type Girish and that he's a Girish Varma groupie. Boy! Did he pick the wrong group. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Jai Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhawani_shank2000 no_re...@... wrote: This is Pandit Bhawani Shankar Kaushik From Allahabad India, Warmest greetings to all of you from Allahabad. I hope that you all member of this Group are happy and well and doing fine. I have a question to ask to you people in his group that who is the person who is taking care of every thing in the western country. Like in India we have Griesh Ji Who is taking care of every thing. All the very best for you all Jai Guru Dev Pandit Bhawani It's nice to make contact with some people in India and it's interesting that you should have to ask who is in charge over here. I would have thought that they'd tell you. Basically King Tony Nader is nominally in charge, but everybody knows the real authority over key decisions lie with Bevan Morris and John Hagelin. Bevan Morris is famous in the West for his authoritarian and harsh approach towards people and we hear that some people in India have had the chance to become familiar with that aspect of his personality. A recent series of postings here on FFL has turned up the fact that Tony Nader is not the real originator of the idea of Veda and Human Physiology but it is in fact an idea first mentioned by some Indian academics in a book published in 1931 titled Vedic Gods as figures of Biology. It appears that Tony Nader's book was ghost written for him by a team of doctors and purusha using that book for the basic idea. In any case his book is worthless because every educated person knows that it's always possible to find co-incidental relationships between things and to make up a story to give a plausible sounding rationale for the illusory relationships discovered. Hence Tony Nader's authority isn't soundly based. Although he is widely regarded as one of the more sensible people at the top. But as he wears a crown and allowed himself to be weighed out in gold as a reward for a book someone else had written for him more sensible is only in relation to the people around him. The big question people in the Western branch of the movement has with respect to India is where has all the money gone?. We hear lots of rumors of Maharishi's family taking a large percentage of the money that has been sent to India over the last few decades, but we have no published figures to back it up. We know that hundreds of millions of dollars have been sent from Western Countries and in fees for raja training and the millionaires courses to secret bank accounts in Jersey (one of the Channel Islands), but after that the trail goes cold. We hear about developments in India and are shown pictures of buildings there but the value of the assets in India doesn't seem to add up to the hundreds of millions collected by international. We have heard that the financial situation in India after Maharishi's death was so bad that Harris Kaplan had to step in and pay the pundits out of his own pocket. We have also heard that Vlodrop made a court order to freeze bank accounts held by members of Maharishi's family the day after Maharishi's funeral. But we haven't got any documentation to back this up. On the whole people like the idea of supporting pundits in India, but don't like the idea that most of the money has been diverted elsewhere. International could clear up the bad smell by having an independent audit of the entire global business but they don't feel it's necessary while some people are still willing to send them money. It would be a positive thing if people in the TM movement in India could make a direct connection with people in the TM movement around the world without going through international. Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Robert babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: 1 Jimi Hendrix by Pete Townshend I feel sad for people who have to judge Jimi Hendrix on the basis of recordings and film alone, because in the flesh he was so extraordinary. He had a kind of alchemist's ability; when he was on the stage, he changed. He physically changed. He became incredibly graceful and beautiful. It wasn't just people taking LSD, though that was going on, there's no question. But he had a power that almost sobered you up if you were on an acid trip. He was bigger than LSD. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitaris \ ts_of_all_time/ http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitari \ sts_of_all_time/ I have seen the 'Who' once, and Jimi Hendrix twice... The Who are obnoxious, loud and have nothing really original about them...never really 'got' what they were about They are the original punk rockers, and appealed more to working class honesty, that's why you don't get ehat they are about, whereas Hendrix appealed more to college drop-outs. ...other than obnoxious...they all must be deaf by now ...whereas Hendrix is long dead. Jimi Hendrix was a master...beyond the usual, as is stated above... He was 3 hit wonder and an extra-ordinary poser. Its a good thing he died, he would have gone on to make some horrible noises. OffWorld Oh Off - you dismal, dismal soul you! But Jimi likes punk - he even played with the Clash: The Big Pink have revealed that they are enlisting the ghost of the late guitar legend Jimi Hendrix to appear on their debut album. Milo Cordell said that the duo had chosen to record the album in new York's Electric Lady studios - which Hendrix used to own. They'd heard a tale about Clash's 1980 album 'Sandinista!', also recorded in the studio. It definitely exists! Apparently Hendrix's spirit is on 'Sandinista!'. The Clash heard this amazing guitar part on a studio playback and all of them were like, 'Er, I didn't put that bit down'. The band have even got hold of a Ouija board to help them make contact. Cordell: So as soon as we get there we'll get Jimi to do a lead part on (likely new single) 'Dominos'.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: [snip] Lawson, Politicians define themselves ideologically by their words and deeds on a political spectrum ranging from left to right. Left is the big Mommy government, I'll share mine with you. Right is the small Daddy government, I've got mine, too bad about you. What a contentious way to set the scene! Surely not right=daddy=male=selfish=bad? And if you're gonna think of it as Mommy v Daddy values, don't we probably need BOTH? We could do with the strengths of each without the weaknesses of each (value)? [snip]
[FairfieldLife] 'Iran in the Cross-Hairs'
They May Not Want The Bomb ~And other unexpected truths. Emerging Iran Inside a land poised between tradition and modernity A Photographic Journey By Fareed Zakaria | Published May 23, 2009 Everything you know about Iran is wrong, or at least more complicated than you think. Take the bomb. The regime wants to be a nuclear power but could well be happy with a peaceful civilian program (which could make the challenge it poses more complex). What's the evidence? Well, over the last five years, senior Iranian officials at every level have repeatedly asserted that they do not intend to build nuclear weapons. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has quoted the regime's founding father, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who asserted that such weapons were un-Islamic. The country's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a fatwa in 2004 describing the use of nuclear weapons as immoral. In a subsequent sermon, he declared that developing, producing or stockpiling nuclear weapons is forbidden under Islam. Last year Khamenei reiterated all these points after meeting with the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei. Now, of course, they could all be lying. But it seems odd for a regime that derives its legitimacy from its fidelity to Islam to declare constantly that these weapons are un-Islamic if it intends to develop them. It would be far shrewder to stop reminding people of Khomeini's statements and stop issuing new fatwas against nukes. A Photographic Journey Following a civilian nuclear strategy has big benefits. The country would remain within international law, simply asserting its rights under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, a position that has much support across the world. That would make comprehensive sanctions against Iran impossible. And if Tehran's aim is to expand its regional influence, it doesn't need a bomb to do so. Simply having a clear breakout capacity—the ability to weaponize within a few months—would allow it to operate with much greater latitude and impunity in the Middle East and Central Asia. Iranians aren't suicidal. In an interview last week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu described the Iranian regime as a messianic, apocalyptic cult. In fact, Iran has tended to behave in a shrewd, calculating manner, advancing its interests when possible, retreating when necessary. The Iranians allied with the United States and against the Taliban in 2001, assisting in the creation of the Karzai government. They worked against the United States in Iraq, where they feared the creation of a pro-U.S. puppet on their border. Earlier this year, during the Gaza war, Israel warned Hizbullah not to launch rockets against it, and there is much evidence that Iran played a role in reining in their proxies. Iran's ruling elite is obsessed with gathering wealth and maintaining power. The argument made by those—including many Israelis for coercive sanctions against Iran is that many in the regime have been squirreling away money into bank accounts in Dubai and Switzerland for their children and grandchildren. These are not actions associated with people who believe that the world is going to end soon. placeAd2(commercialNode,'bigbox',false,'') One of Netanyahu's advisers said of Iran, Think Amalek. The Bible says that the Amalekites were dedicated enemies of the Jewish people. In 1 Samuel 15, God says, Go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. Now, were the president of Iran and his advisers to have cited a religious text that gave divine sanction for the annihilation of an entire race, they would be called, well, messianic. Iran isn't a dictatorship. It is certainly not a democracy. The regime jails opponents, closes down magazines and tolerates few challenges to its authority. But neither is it a monolithic dictatorship. It might be best described as an oligarchy, with considerable debate and dissent within the elites. Even the so-called Supreme Leader has a constituency, the Assembly of Experts, who selected him and whom he has to keep happy. Ahmadinejad is widely seen as the mad mullah who runs the country, but he is not the unquestioned chief executive and is actually a thorn in the side of the clerical establishment. He is a layman with no family connections to major ayatollahs—which makes him a rare figure in the ruling class. He was not initially the favored candidate of the Supreme Leader in the 2005 election. Even now the mullahs clearly dislike him, and he, in turn, does things deliberately designed to undermine their authority. Iran might be ready to deal. We can't know if a deal is possible since we've never tried to negotiate one, not directly. While the regime appears united in its belief that Iran has the right to a civilian nuclear
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: [snip] Lawson, Politicians define themselves ideologically by their words and deeds on a political spectrum ranging from left to right. Left is the big Mommy government, I'll share mine with you. Right is the small Daddy government, I've got mine, too bad about you. What a contentious way to set the scene! Surely not right=daddy=male=selfish=bad? And if you're gonna think of it as Mommy v Daddy values, don't we probably need BOTH? We could do with the strengths of each without the weaknesses of each (value)? It's why most of us ignore Raunchy and Judy when they get like this. They're both old school feminists, in that their schtick is all about BLAME. Me, I've worked with and been friends with for several decades now *real* feminists. None of them would waste any time or energy whining about sexism or pointing fingers at the people they BLAME for it. They're too busy doing something with their lives, and proving that sexism is no barrier to anyone except those who allow it to be. No one reasonable can *miss* the imbalance in their positions and their outlooks on life when these two get like this. They are simply incapable of keeping the loathing that they feel out of their voices. Even their screen voices. And I, for one, think it's unproductive. If either of them *really* wanted to change things, they'd have developed by this time some awareness of how they are *perceived* when they get like this, and that it has the effect of turning people OFF to the issue, not increasing their awareness of it. My take on such women is the same as that of my real feminist friends -- they don't want to change things; they want to bitch about things. None of the strong women I know -- and that includes CEOs of multi-million dollar firms, high-level executives in corporations, and Olympic medal winners -- would have anything to do with either Raunchy or Judy. They would be embarrassed by them, as they are by women like Andrea Dworkin, Susan Brownmiller, Catharine MacKinnon and others who take similar blame the men stands as radical feminists. The women I know -- DOERs all, winners all -- look upon such women as losers, and as *obstacles* to eliminating sexism. I see the pragmatic elimination of sexism in the workplace every time I see women in confer- ence rooms being just one of the guys. NOT meaning that they're acting like guys, just meaning that they're not trying to either stand out or be submissive. These successful women do not perceive themselves as being *any different* than the guys, and as a result the guys don't treat them any differently. Some- times I think that the women who still cling to BLAME and the tenets of radical feminism just don't get out much, and haven't worked in offices for years. If they had, they would have seen how real women have found a way to deal with sexism without it being a big issue for them. It's only the shut-ins who only think *about* succeeding instead of doing it, and who seem to still be stuck in this mindset of men are keeping us down. They are keeping themselves down. By desperately clinging to wrongs done in the past and dwelling on them, they keep themselves locked firmly in the victim mindset. By spend- ing all their time assigning BLAME and seeking some kind of revenge, they piss all that time and all that energy away on being angry instead of being successful. The bottom line as I see it is that both Raunchy and Judy are the most sexist posters on this forum. Both have admitted that they would prefer a woman candidate for president, simply because she's a woman. I and other men they have char- acterized as sexist would never do that.
[FairfieldLife] A moment of clarity about waterboarding
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-camp/watch-water-boarding-witc_b_207197.html or http://tinyurl.com/pwv5qd This short video by Lee Camp says it all. Waterboarding is the modern-day equivalent of dunk the witch. If the person accused of being a witch survived being dunked in the water, she was a witch and thus was burned at the stake. I'm urging a more enlightened approach to suspected terrorists than waterboarding, one that does not involve torture, and that thus should improve our image worldwide. Merely weigh the suspected terrorist to see if they weigh the same as a duck. If they do, *then* you can burn them at the stake, because it's a fair cop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
I think Australia stopped it. They said something like We have moved beyond it. --- On Sun, 5/24/09, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 1:48 PM Knowing the tendencies of human beings, this pageant is not going away any time soon. OTOH, what is wrong with appreciating the female human form? Even the ancient vedic literature mentions various exalted female characters in the guise of Parvati, Mohini, Laksmi, and Urvasi. Urvasi is perhaps interesting in that she was an apsara, or celestial dancer, who fell in love with a human male. *
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Curse of commerialization
One of the major problems facing the planet is the uncontrolled increase of population around the world which degrades the quality of life and sucks more resources. The great war in the epic Mahabharatha was pre-ordained. There was a huge increase in population. Adharma increases when population increases. Booma Devi (mother earth) could not bear the burden. Gods approach Vishnu who states that he will cause a huge war which will eleminate a major portion of the population and restore Dharma. The meaning is nature will use various mechnaisms to bring down over population which includes war. A huge burden on Earth will be lifted if Polluting industries and metal mining are shifted to the Moon. even polluting Power stations can be shifted to the Moon and the power generated stored in batteries could be sent to earth. This is the only way to save the delicate fragile eco-systems around the world. --- On Sun, 5/24/09, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Curse of commerialization Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 1:49 PM The Master's article for Share International magazine, May 2009 The curse of commercialization by the Master –, through Benjamin Creme, 17 April 2009 If men are to save this planet from the results of global warming they must do infinitely more than is planned to limit carbon emissions, and in a shorter period of time than is generally accepted as necessary. Men have been slow to recognize the dangers, and even now many refuse to take the problems seriously. Such attitudes, there is no doubt, put in jeopardy the future of planet Earth. At most, men have ten to fifteen years in which to establish a balance before irreparable damage is done. To achieve this goal, men must change dramatically the present way of life, and embrace simpler forms of living and working. Gone are the days in which men raped and ravaged the planet at will, without a thought for the generations still to come, neither seeing nor caring ought for the environment which has gradually and inevitably decayed. Each year, and for many years, huge areas of ancient primal forest are cleared of life-giving trees for purely commercial benefits. Commercialization indeed bodes ill for humanity as it tightens its grip on the throats of men. Commercialization, says Maitreya, is more dangerous to men than the atomic bomb, and is showing its destructive power in the economic chaos which rules in the world today. Life-blood How long will it take governments and their peoples to see this? How long till commercialization squeezes the life-blood out of humanity, and itself withers and dies? More and more, the truth of these words is borne in on the minds of millions who now, suddenly, are jobless and homeless and in despair. This has produced a situation in which Maitreya can step forward into public work without infringing humanity's free will. Patiently has Maitreya waited many years for this time, sure in the knowledge that the events now taking place would, indeed, transpire. Commercialization has bared its claws and shown its power to harm. The complacency of millions is turning into hatred and distrust of commercialization and the old order of things. Men everywhere are at last ready for a new interpretation of the meaning and purpose of life, for sharing, justice and peace; for right relationship, brotherhood and greater happiness. They are ready, at last, for Maitreya's call. Imagine Of course, not all men have undergone this change. There are many who imagine they can `sit out' this `recession' and rebuild their fortunes as before. The very rich and clever ones have lost nothing. The gap between themselves and others has simply widened in their favour. They fail to understand that this time is like none other. We have reached the end of the old order. Cosmic forces dictate the changes that must and will take place, otherwise life would flourish no more on planet Earth. Those who are ready will quickly respond to Maitreya's Teaching as He puts into simple and eloquent words their heartfelt needs. Others will take longer to forgo that to which they have become accustomed, and for a time disagree. In time, millions around the world will see the need and the logic of the changes which alone will save the planet and its people. (Read more articles by the Master) http://shareintl. org/magazine/ old_issues/ 2009/2009- 05.htm *
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite spiritual in a meditative way. Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience. For instance, the power of music: http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2 Thanks for the link -- she slings some neatso keeno lingo. Have you listened to her stuff and found it living up to her hype? Edg Om yeah, is a weekly group meditation with her that is by far the hottest spiritual thing going in FF. Has been for a long time. Of course, happens under the movement radar and by a word of mouth is small. Like so much of all the real spiritual practice work that is going on in the FF meditating community now. Is really pretty fabulous that way in FF as a place. Is part of the spiritual practice community. In her case she has been very helpful here in FF and also out around towards opening people's inner experience. Is a real deal. She is more humble and not really a cult-builder. Has her experience and does her work. But is good at her modalities in helping folks with their spiritual practice things life. Don't actually have to travel to far places necessarily when FF has saints like this living here. She is masterful. Has helped a lot of even the top TM people through their spiritual dull drums or energetic problems. Also helpful to people in meditation problems, where TM might leave off. Is quite experienced and is multi-faceted as a spiritual healer that way. Amazing musician talent too. That's the review from the street, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: [snip] Lawson, Politicians define themselves ideologically by their words and deeds on a political spectrum ranging from left to right. Left is the big Mommy government, I'll share mine with you. Right is the small Daddy government, I've got mine, too bad about you. What a contentious way to set the scene! Surely not right=daddy=male=selfish=bad? And if you're gonna think of it as Mommy v Daddy values, don't we probably need BOTH? We could do with the strengths of each without the weaknesses of each (value)? [snip] The concept of a political spectrum from left to right is High School Civics 101. It's how we define a politicians political values. The use of the term Mommy or Daddy State is quite common. It is not something I made up. Extreme Mommy State represents the extreme Left. Extreme Daddy State represent the extreme right. If you want a balance between Mommy and Daddy, you are describing a Centrist politics.
[FairfieldLife] Memorial Day Meditation
of Remembrances, a short prayer. Prayer for our Practicing Meditators. Demographically there is now a list of our meditator friends whose mortal lives have passed away. On a Memorial Day Remembering: Prayer 'Transcendent and Manifest Lord of all Nature, hold our meditators in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen.' Om Shanti, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
Now, ya see? -- Doug, what with your recent flood of posts that seem to be from a true believer, and with your being in everyone's face about are you a meditator, your below review of Janet Sussman seems so extra sweet that I'm thinkin' you're pulling my leg. I finally found a sample of her piano playing, and frankly, I can play like that all day long while answering Cash Cab questions. That aside, note that I do understand that being in the presence of the artist is a whole 'nother deal, and that, given my general state of consciousness, it wouldn't be a surprise that I was unable to appreciate an ethereal artist. So, just to push you a bit further, er, would you call yourself a Sussman true believer? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite spiritual in a meditative way. Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience. For instance, the power of music: http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2 Thanks for the link -- she slings some neatso keeno lingo. Have you listened to her stuff and found it living up to her hype? Edg Om yeah, is a weekly group meditation with her that is by far the hottest spiritual thing going in FF. Has been for a long time. Of course, happens under the movement radar and by a word of mouth is small. Like so much of all the real spiritual practice work that is going on in the FF meditating community now. Is really pretty fabulous that way in FF as a place. Is part of the spiritual practice community. In her case she has been very helpful here in FF and also out around towards opening people's inner experience. Is a real deal. She is more humble and not really a cult-builder. Has her experience and does her work. But is good at her modalities in helping folks with their spiritual practice things life. Don't actually have to travel to far places necessarily when FF has saints like this living here. She is masterful. Has helped a lot of even the top TM people through their spiritual dull drums or energetic problems. Also helpful to people in meditation problems, where TM might leave off. Is quite experienced and is multi-faceted as a spiritual healer that way. Amazing musician talent too. That's the review from the street, -Doug in FF
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hello Jai Guru Dev
Royal Flush by Annie Jacobsen When the Maharaja of Jodhpur was forced to earn a living, he turned his castle into a hotel and opened his fortress to the world. When his father died in a plane crash in 1952, four-year-old Maharaja Gaj Singh II inherited more than most toddlers do. There were those five palaces, the four medieval fortresses, and orchards. Not to mention the thousands of rooms filled with priceless antiques, carpets, jewelry, and artifacts. The 38th member of his family to consecutively rule Jodhpur, an area in western India roughly the size of England, the new maharaja inherited what his ancestors had been building and collecting for more than 500 years. For the next two decades, the maharaja and his family lived in fairy tale opulence, and at the time, his family was far from alone. Dozens of Indian maharajas held sway over vast territories. On passports, their occupation was listed as “Ruler.” They ate off gold plates and used diamonds as paperweights, decorated their wives with emeralds the size of eggs, lived in marble palaces, kept armies of elephants and staffs of thousands. They lent their own government money and subsidized the war chests of the Western world. Visiting European royals and U.S. presidents dropped their jaws and stared at English nannies rocking cradles made of gold. Then, in 1971, with the stroke of a pen, India’s socialist leader, Indira Gandhi, abolished all monarchies. With the 1971 Deregulation Act, the maharajas didn’t just lose their titles, they lost their privy purses — the annual allowance they received beginning in 1947, in return for handing over sovereignty to India. But what really crippled the royal families were the property taxes levied on their previously tax-exempt assets. Suddenly, they faced multimillion-dollar bills. Some auctioned off their historical collections and watched their palaces be dismembered and sold. A few fell into alcoholic despair. Others rode off into the sunset. http://www.americanwaymag.com/maharaja-gaj-singh-ii-rao-raja-mahendra-singh-mehrangarh-fort-india --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Hello Jai Guru Dev Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 2:55 PM Ask him who runs the principle of Vedic supremacism there and how they are working to incorporate untouchables into MMY's world plan. Or are the untouchables karmically excluded? TIA. *
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Meditation
I think I'll stick with the traditional, Doug. At least at this point I prefer to acknowledge the many lives that WERE sacraficed in securing a pretty decent way of life here, even with all its shortcomings. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: of Remembrances, a short prayer. Prayer for our Practicing Meditators. Demographically there is now a list of our meditator friends whose mortal lives have passed away. On a Memorial Day Remembering: Prayer 'Transcendent and Manifest Lord of all Nature, hold our meditators in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen.' Om Shanti, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] My $8.00 protest
Over the past 5 years or so I have been a regular purchaser of MAPI Vata Churna. I buy the large size (8 ounces) about once every 6 months or so. It costs $16.00 a bottle. Way, way overpriced when you consider that, separately, the ingredients are worth even retail about $2.00, tops. But I would buy it anyway 'cause it's really good. Well, last time I went to buy it about a week ago I discovered that the cheapest shipping charge is $8.00, no matter the quantity of goods you are buying. So that's $24.00 for the 8 ounce bottle. No way. As much as I like the product I am simply not going to pay such a price for that. So I suppose I'm cutting off my nose to spite my face, but there you have it. I have resorted to, again, trying my own combination of spices to recreate the Vata Churna. I suppose I've got it about 75% right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Jai Guru Dev
Would anybody tell me whats going to be the fate of the 13 Gigantic Quixotic Lunatic Towers.?? Would they ever have the money to build it.? By the way Fawkji, Is King Tony the ruler of only the Western world.?? or the entire World.?? Or the whole Universe.?? From a vast Cosmic prespective, the earth is just a tiny colony spinning in space. There is no need for the Supreme Administrator of the Cosmos to be physicaly present in a tiny colony. I downgrade Tony Nader to the status of Governor-General.!! Maharishi is crazy. India abolished Monarchy in 1971. All privileges and Titles of the Maharajas removed. Maharishi recreates Maharajas which was the viable administrative structure during the 'First-wave Agricultural civilisation' which lasted for 12,000 years. The system disintegrated when 'Second-wave Industrial civilisation' began unable to cope up with the complex new economy which required a vast administration. It's not only Maharishi who was struck with the 'First Wave' mentality. All Christian fundamentalists and Islamic fundamentalists are also struck with the 'First wave' mentality because all their religions were created during 'First Wave civilisation'. --- On Mon, 5/25/09, guyfawkes91 guyfawke...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Jai Guru Dev Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 12:27 AM Pandit Bhawani It's nice to make contact with some people in India and it's interesting that you should have to ask who is in charge over here. I would have thought that they'd tell you. Basically King Tony Nader is nominally in charge, but everybody knows the real authority over key decisions lie with Bevan Morris and John Hagelin. Bevan Morris is famous in the West for his authoritarian and harsh approach towards people and we hear that some people in India have had the chance to become familiar with that aspect of his personality. A recent series of postings here on FFL has turned up the fact that Tony Nader is not the real originator of the idea of Veda and Human Physiology but it is in fact an idea first mentioned by some Indian academics in a book published in 1931 titled Vedic Gods as figures of Biology. It appears that Tony Nader's book was ghost written for him by a team of doctors and purusha using that book for the basic idea. In any case his book is worthless because every educated person knows that it's always possible to find co-incidental relationships between things and to make up a story to give a plausible sounding rationale for the illusory relationships discovered . Hence Tony Nader's authority isn't soundly based. Although he is widely regarded as one of the more sensible people at the top. But as he wears a crown and allowed himself to be weighed out in gold as a reward for a book someone else had written for him more sensible is only in relation to the people around him. The big question people in the Western branch of the movement has with respect to India is where has all the money gone?. We hear lots of rumors of Maharishi's family taking a large percentage of the money that has been sent to India over the last few decades, but we have no published figures to back it up. We know that hundreds of millions of dollars have been sent from Western Countries and in fees for raja training and the millionaires courses to secret bank accounts in Jersey (one of the Channel Islands), but after that the trail goes cold. We hear about developments in India and are shown pictures of buildings there but the value of the assets in India doesn't seem to add up to the hundreds of millions collected by international. We have heard that the financial situation in India after Maharishi's death was so bad that Harris Kaplan had to step in and pay the pundits out of his own pocket. We have also heard that Vlodrop made a court order to freeze bank accounts held by members of Maharishi's family the day after Maharishi's funeral. But we haven't got any documentation to back this up. On the whole people like the idea of supporting pundits in India, but don't like the idea that most of the money has been diverted elsewhere. International could clear up the bad smell by having an independent audit of the entire global business but they don't feel it's necessary while some people are still willing to send them money. It would be a positive thing if people in the TM movement in India could make a direct connection with people in the TM movement around the world without going through international. Jai Guru Dev *
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Complete Idiot's Guide to 2012
I'm encouraged by today's rising enlightened world trends: N.Korea exploded a nuclear bomb Iran sends 6 warships out in international waters and Pelosi is in China!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I thought that was how the age of enlightenment was supposed to be financed? That's how many financed their TTC and Sindhi's courses. sgrayatlarge wrote: Correct I'm not as pure as you, thankfully Yes and the rise of unsustainable debt that will last probably throughout the age of enlightenment --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Just like the dawn of the age of enlightenment...rising any day now It's been rising steadily for the last 100 years or so culiminating in Maharishi's Inauguration of The Age of Enlightenment in 1975 and Maitreyas arrival to the West from the Himalayas in 1977. If you haven't noticed it's rise it's because your nervous-system is extraordinarily clogged and/or bugged down by the collective consciousness. Best sign for the rise of the Age of Enlightenment; the current collapse of Capitalism. But you haven't noticed this either, have you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: Edg has one of the most commonly occurring illnesses affecting those retirees bored to tears, Vaj: a chronic and usually incurable condition known as Verbal Diarrhea, or in the case of people who can't stop typing, Keyboardus Boringitis Maximus. This condition usually manifests itself in incomprehensible, long-winded diatribes that spew forth from the sufferer's keyboard, usually without regard to the fact that almost nobody actually *reads* said tracts, and always with regard to the fact that by the end of said tracts, the sufferer is so bored himself (or herself, as the case may be) with his own nonsense that he has totally blanked out on what the original point was, and hence keeps typing away aimlessly. There is so far no known cure for this sad condition, but there is one upside (so to speak): it works as an excellent sleeping pill for those unfortunates (or saints, depending on your POV) who might actually attempt to make sense of one of these tracts, rather than simply yawning and pressing the delete button. Sal Is that so? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Robert babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: 1 Jimi Hendrix by Pete Townshend I feel sad for people who have to judge Jimi Hendrix on the basis of recordings and film alone, because in the flesh he was so extraordinary. He had a kind of alchemist's ability; when he was on the stage, he changed. He physically changed. He became incredibly graceful and beautiful. It wasn't just people taking LSD, though that was going on, there's no question. But he had a power that almost sobered you up if you were on an acid trip. He was bigger than LSD. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitaris http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitari\ s \ ts_of_all_time/ http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitari http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitari\ \ sts_of_all_time/ I have seen the 'Who' once, and Jimi Hendrix twice... The Who are obnoxious, loud and have nothing really original about them...never really 'got' what they were about They are the original punk rockers, and appealed more to working class honesty, that's why you don't get ehat they are about, whereas Hendrix appealed more to college drop-outs. ...other than obnoxious...they all must be deaf by now ...whereas Hendrix is long dead. Jimi Hendrix was a master...beyond the usual, as is stated above... He was 3 hit wonder and an extra-ordinary poser. Its a good thing he died, he would have gone on to make some horrible noises. OffWorld Oh Off - you dismal, dismal soul you! But Jimi likes punk - he even played with the Clash: The Big Pink have revealed that they are enlisting the ghost of the late guitar legend Jimi Hendrix to appear on their debut album. Milo Cordell said that the duo had chosen to record the album in new York's Electric Lady studios - which Hendrix used to own. They'd heard a tale about Clash's 1980 album 'Sandinista!', also recorded in the studio. It definitely exists! Apparently Hendrix's spirit is on 'Sandinista!'. The Clash heard this amazing guitar part on a studio playback and all of them were like, 'Er, I didn't put that bit down'. The band have even got hold of a Ouija board to help them make contact. Cordell: So as soon as we get there we'll get Jimi to do a lead part on (likely new single) 'Dominos'. Ok, I believe you. He was awesome ! Its ironic about the Clash, because he was entirely discovered by the Brits. Americans didn't get Hendrix at first. It took the Brits to discover him. Watch and enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj-9gkl7n9g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj-9gkl7n9g OffWorld
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dhamiltony2k5 Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 7:47 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music? Om yeah, is a weekly group meditation with her that is by far the hottest spiritual thing going in FF. Has been for a long time. Of course, happens under the movement radar and by a word of mouth is small. Like so much of all the real spiritual practice work that is going on in the FF meditating community now. Is really pretty fabulous that way in FF as a place. Is part of the spiritual practice community. When and where is that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound?? Jimi Hendrix was a master...beyond the usual, as is stated above... He was 3 hit wonder and an extra-ordinary poser. Its a good thing he died, he would have gone on to make some horrible noises. I couldn't get into Electric Ladyland. I thought he was getting burned out by that time. But Are You Experienced? and Axis: Bold as Love were masterpieces, except for a couple of songs written by Noel Redding (Hendrix's bass player). He was great, I admit it ! Some of his best stuff were cover versions though, such as Bob Dylan's All along the Watchtower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
quick Edg, call her sexy like Turqy did, and just as she now sees his verbal diarrhea as brilliant and insightful, she will see your far superior writing for what it is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Edg has one of the most commonly occurring illnesses affecting those retirees bored to tears, Vaj: a chronic and usually incurable condition known as Verbal Diarrhea, or in the case of people who can't stop typing, Keyboardus Boringitis Maximus. This condition usually manifests itself in incomprehensible, long-winded diatribes that spew forth from the sufferer's keyboard, usually without regard to the fact that almost nobody actually *reads* said tracts, and always with regard to the fact that by the end of said tracts, the sufferer is so bored himself (or herself, as the case may be) with his own nonsense that he has totally blanked out on what the original point was, and hence keeps typing away aimlessly. There is so far no known cure for this sad condition, but there is one upside (so to speak): it works as an excellent sleeping pill for those unfortunates (or saints, depending on your POV) who might actually attempt to make sense of one of these tracts, rather than simply yawning and pressing the delete button. Sal Is that so? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Robert babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: 1 Jimi Hendrix by Pete Townshend I feel sad for people who have to judge Jimi Hendrix on the basis of recordings and film alone, because in the flesh he was so extraordinary. He had a kind of alchemist's ability; when he was on the stage, he changed. He physically changed. He became incredibly graceful and beautiful. It wasn't just people taking LSD, though that was going on, there's no question. But he had a power that almost sobered you up if you were on an acid trip. He was bigger than LSD. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitaris http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitari \ s \ ts_of_all_time/ http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitari http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5937559/the_100_greatest_guitari \ \ sts_of_all_time/ I have seen the 'Who' once, and Jimi Hendrix twice... The Who are obnoxious, loud and have nothing really original about them...never really 'got' what they were about They are the original punk rockers, and appealed more to working class honesty, that's why you don't get ehat they are about, whereas Hendrix appealed more to college drop-outs. ...other than obnoxious...they all must be deaf by now ...whereas Hendrix is long dead. Jimi Hendrix was a master...beyond the usual, as is stated above... He was 3 hit wonder and an extra-ordinary poser. Its a good thing he died, he would have gone on to make some horrible noises. OffWorld Oh Off - you dismal, dismal soul you! But Jimi likes punk - he even played with the Clash: The Big Pink have revealed that they are enlisting the ghost of the late guitar legend Jimi Hendrix to appear on their debut album. Milo Cordell said that the duo had chosen to record the album in new York's Electric Lady studios - which Hendrix used to own. They'd heard a tale about Clash's 1980 album 'Sandinista!', also recorded in the studio. It definitely exists! Apparently Hendrix's spirit is on 'Sandinista!'. The Clash heard this amazing guitar part on a studio playback and all of them were like, 'Er, I didn't put that bit down'. The band have even got hold of a Ouija board to help them make contact. Cordell: So as soon as we get there we'll get Jimi to do a lead part on (likely new single) 'Dominos'. Ok, I believe you. He was awesome ! Its ironic about the Clash, because he was entirely discovered by the Brits. Americans didn't get Hendrix at first. It took the Brits to discover him. Watch and enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj-9gkl7n9g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj-9gkl7n9g OffWorld That brought back memories - I saw the original Lulu show and was amazed. My dad was watching at the time and of course he made the typical comment Why do you want to listen to such stuff with no melody son (and when are you going to get a haircut?). Thanks Off! I take back half the things I ever said about you...
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi autograph
Hope somebody can help me out here. I got a book called Insight Meditation that's signed on the title page by Maharishi. I got it in a trade from a collector friend of mine in New York. I fully trust the source, it had been in the collection of a prominent collector-dealer before he passed. I can't find any other examples of his signature to compare to, or to figure what it might be worth. Anyone out there with any ideas where i can find a sample of his signature? I'd be happy to post a picture or send it to anyone who'd like to see it, I'm brand new to this forum/ group thing. Know of any other signatures that have sold? You can check out my website at popculturesignatures.com, i have been very lucky in obtaining some amazing collections of autographed items. Thanks, Jim
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Jai Guru Dev
yep, nothing here but a bunch of old dried up TM bashers-- good call Turqy! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhawani_shank2000 no_reply@ wrote: This is Pandit Bhawani Shankar Kaushik From Allahabad India, Warmest greetings to all of you from Allahabad. I hope that you all member of this Group are happy and well and doing fine. I have a question to ask to you people in his group that who is the person who is taking care of every thing in the western country. Like in India we have Griesh Ji Who is taking care of every thing. All the very best for you all Jai Guru Dev I see that the comment about Brevity is the soul of wit made an impression on you, Guy. :-) I suspect that the person posting this meant to type Girish and that he's a Girish Varma groupie. Boy! Did he pick the wrong group. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spain
Sal is talking about the fellow wanting to visit Seville getting in touch with the half-drunk, caffeinated TM basher and all round dog walking cynic and narcissist, Barry, and how transformative hanging around this failed tech writer and cult groupie will be for someone who has a coherent and successful spiritual life. Kinda sad really... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Sal - Which *He* will never be the same? What could you possibly mean? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On May 24, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Hi Rick, maybe someone in FFL can help me. Im going to Sevilla, Spain, in the beginning of June 09. I would also like to meet some TM-people. Does anybody have contacts there ? Would be nice to meditate under the spanish sun ... Definitely, he's got to get in touch with Barry. :) He'll never be the same... Sal
RE: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi autograph
Post the signature in the photos section. I used to have a book or two signed by him and would probably recognize it. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jim_falkenstern Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:17 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi autograph Hope somebody can help me out here. I got a book called Insight Meditation that's signed on the title page by Maharishi. I got it in a trade from a collector friend of mine in New York. I fully trust the source, it had been in the collection of a prominent collector-dealer before he passed. I can't find any other examples of his signature to compare to, or to figure what it might be worth. Anyone out there with any ideas where i can find a sample of his signature? I'd be happy to post a picture or send it to anyone who'd like to see it, I'm brand new to this forum/ group thing. Know of any other signatures that have sold? You can check out my website at popculturesignatures.com, i have been very lucky in obtaining some amazing collections of autographed items. Thanks, Jim
RE: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi autograph
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:24 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi autograph Post the signature in the photos section. I used to have a book or two signed by him and would probably recognize it. I'm doubtful. Usually he wrote enjoy or something like that along with his signature. Why would he be signing a book called Insight Meditation when he didn't write it and probably wouldn't have approved of it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: I think I'll stick with the traditional, Doug. At least at this point I prefer to acknowledge the many lives that WERE sacraficed in securing a pretty decent way of life here, even with all its shortcomings. I'm with you on that Lurker. I don't think using Memorial Day to mock meditators is particularly useful. IMO it's in poor taste. I just got back home with my 5 year-old granddaughter from Fairfield's Memorial Day service on the square which is beautifully festooned with American flags. Here's someone's jumpy video of what Fairfield's square looked like today: http://tinyurl.com/r5ldnb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyCzSB-c1FY The 224th Engineer Battalion, National Guard Band performed on the square for about an hour, then we followed them as they drummed and marched to the court house. There was a slight drizzle of rain as the band played taps and a lady from the VFW Ladies Auxiliary laid a wreath on the marble memorial that honors the branches of service. My father, and three uncles served in WWII. I always get a lump in my throat when hear taps. Fairfield's Memorial to soldiers: http://tinyurl.com/qll9cb http://www.cec-waterjet.com/Articles/Fairfield-Ledger-1992-06-05.html A History of Iowa's National Guard: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/arng-ia.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: of Remembrances, a short prayer. Prayer for our Practicing Meditators. Demographically there is now a list of our meditator friends whose mortal lives have passed away. On a Memorial Day Remembering: Prayer 'Transcendent and Manifest Lord of all Nature, hold our meditators in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen.' Om Shanti, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound?? Jimi Hendrix was a master...beyond the usual, as is stated above... He was 3 hit wonder and an extra-ordinary poser. Its a good thing he died, he would have gone on to make some horrible noises. I couldn't get into Electric Ladyland. I thought he was getting burned out by that time. But Are You Experienced? and Axis: Bold as Love were masterpieces, except for a couple of songs written by Noel Redding (Hendrix's bass player). He was great, I admit it ! Some of his best stuff were cover versions though, such as Bob Dylan's All along the Watchtower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs OffWorld This is sad. Jimi was halfway into the next world by the time of the Isle of Wight festival. His playing was terrible by his standards, and his inspiration had left him. A few weeks later he was dead. Just recently I watched a bio on Peter Green. To my mind, like Jimi, he had a special something which went way beyond technique and musicianship (Albatross, Man Of The World, Green Manalishi, Oh Well). It was terrible what happened to him too. He's still with us, but the spirit he embodied was snuffed out decades ago. It DOES seem to me that the world conspired to block out the light from these guys. It's not the CIA or anything (though some weird things did happen to Hendrix). Perhaps it's just the flip side to the sensitivity that explains their genius, i.e. that they can easily get overwhelmed. Perhaps they attract rakshasas like moths to the light? Green plays on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFNFafg7bNQfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: Sal is talking about the fellow wanting to visit Seville getting in touch with the half-drunk, caffeinated TM basher and all round dog walking cynic and narcissist, Barry, and how transformative hanging around this failed tech writer and cult groupie will be for someone who has a coherent and successful spiritual life. Kinda sad really... Indeed. Perhaps we should advise the fellow to cancel his trip to Seville and journey instead to Santa Clara, CA, where he can visit with enlightened_dawn11, who has claimed to be enlightened as a result of practicing TM. Just look at the wisdom, equanimity, and genteel, highly-evolved language enlightened_dawn uses above, and in similar posts to Fairfield Life. Notice how free of jealousy these posts are, and how free of anger or any kind of lesser spit human emotion. Note the way ed11 is able to see Unity and the best in everything and everyone. Note also how much ed11 embodies Maharishi's idea of creative intelligence by *making up* most of what is written above, about someone she/he has never met. Surely the wannabe Seville-visitor would be better off spending time with someone who so obviously represents and lives all the qualities and bene- fits of enlightenment. Think of all that he could learn from enlightened_dawn11, as opposed to the little he could learn from meeting someone like myself, who has never claimed to be enlightened. The choice is clear. Spend time in a wonderful country full of charm and history and people who know how to live life as if living it fully were ...uh...the *point* of life. Or cancel the trip and go instead to a town known far and wide as the asshole of the greater SF Bay area, there to hang with someone as enlightened as ed11 and bask in her/his holy darshan. I sure know which one I'd choose. H...come to think of it, I already did. :-)
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Spain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: Sal is talking about the fellow wanting to visit Seville getting in touch with the half-drunk, caffeinated TM basher and all round dog walking cynic and narcissist, Barry, and how transformative hanging around this failed tech writer and cult groupie will be for someone who has a coherent and successful spiritual life. Kinda sad really... Indeed. Perhaps we should advise the fellow to cancel his trip to Seville and journey instead to Santa Clara, CA, where he can visit with enlightened_dawn11, who has claimed to be enlightened as a result of practicing TM. Just look at the wisdom, equanimity, and genteel, highly-evolved language enlightened_dawn uses above, and in similar posts to Fairfield Life. Notice how free of jealousy these posts are, and how free of anger or any kind of lesser spit human emotion. Note the way ed11 is able to see Unity and the best in everything and everyone. Note also how much ed11 embodies Maharishi's idea of creative intelligence by *making up* most of what is written above, about someone she/he has never met. Surely the wannabe Seville-visitor would be better off spending time with someone who so obviously represents and lives all the qualities and bene- fits of enlightenment. Think of all that he could learn from enlightened_dawn11, as opposed to the little he could learn from meeting someone like myself, who has never claimed to be enlightened. The choice is clear. Spend time in a wonderful country full of charm and history and people who know how to live life as if living it fully were ...uh...the *point* of life. Or cancel the trip and go instead to a town known far and wide as the asshole of the greater SF Bay area, there to hang with someone as enlightened as ed11 and bask in her/his holy darshan. I sure know which one I'd choose. H...come to think of it, I already did. :-) She [he?] comes off with the intellectual maturity of an obnoxious Jr High kid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi autograph
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:24 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi autograph Post the signature in the photos section. I used to have a book or two signed by him and would probably recognize it. I'm doubtful. Usually he wrote enjoy or something like that along with his signature. Why would he be signing a book called Insight Meditation when he didn't write it and probably wouldn't have approved of it? People can see the image here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/album/131150282/pic/list
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Meditation
Have you guys heard nothing here? You mock me. Read the research, the links. http://www.invincibility.org/research.html The science is clear. Show some respect for what has been accomplished along the way by many of our friends who sacrificed in coming to make this happen. Like, what kind of meditators are ewes anyway that you could just spit on the memories of ours who have also gone before us on the path. This is a day also for all peacemakers. This is a day. Raunch your's nothing notable in listing your forefathers like such. A lot of us have that in spades too. What we do share too though is a participation in this something that was much larger than our selves. Yes, it has not been perfect. But yes, we can have a memorial day to our fallen dead in this too. Hale the victorious dead! Jai Guru Dev, -D in FF I'm with you on that Lurker. I don't think using Memorial Day to mock meditators is particularly useful. IMO it's in poor taste. of Remembrances, a short prayer. Prayer for our Practicing Meditators. Demographically there is now a list of our meditator friends whose mortal lives have passed away. On a Memorial Day Remembering: Prayer 'Transcendent and Manifest Lord of all Nature, hold our meditators in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen.' Om Shanti, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi autograph
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:24 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi autograph Post the signature in the photos section. I used to have a book or two signed by him and would probably recognize it. I'm doubtful. Usually he wrote enjoy or something like that along with his signature. Why would he be signing a book called Insight Meditation when he didn't write it and probably wouldn't have approved of it? People can see the image here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/album/131150282/pic/list Paul Mason posted a note written and signed by Maharishi in the very early days. As I recall, it was signed in the English alphabet.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound??
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard M Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:52 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound?? This is sad. Jimi was halfway into the next world by the time of the Isle of Wight festival. His playing was terrible by his standards, and his inspiration had left him. A few weeks later he was dead. Just recently I watched a bio on Peter Green. To my mind, like Jimi, he had a special something which went way beyond technique and musicianship (Albatross, Man Of The World, Green Manalishi, Oh Well). It was terrible what happened to him too. He's still with us, but the spirit he embodied was snuffed out decades ago. It DOES seem to me that the world conspired to block out the light from these guys. It's not the CIA or anything (though some weird things did happen to Hendrix). Perhaps it's just the flip side to the sensitivity that explains their genius, i.e. that they can easily get overwhelmed. Perhaps they attract rakshasas like moths to the light? Green plays on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFNFafg7bNQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFNFafg7bNQfeature=related feature=related I don't know about Green, but Hendrix took a lot of drugs. That'll burn you out pretty quick. He ended up suffocating on his own vomit while out of it on some combination of chemicals.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: [snip] Lawson, Politicians define themselves ideologically by their words and deeds on a political spectrum ranging from left to right. Left is the big Mommy government, I'll share mine with you. Right is the small Daddy government, I've got mine, too bad about you. What a contentious way to set the scene! Surely not right=daddy=male=selfish=bad? And if you're gonna think of it as Mommy v Daddy values, don't we probably need BOTH? We could do with the strengths of each without the weaknesses of each (value)? It's why most of us ignore Raunchy and Judy when they get like this. They're both old school feminists, in that their schtick is all about BLAME. Apparently Barry is as clueless as Richard M about the concept of a left/right political spectrum. Based on Richard M's misunderstanding of common terminology, Barry, politically misinformed as usual, writes a laughable non sequitur. Why does he need such a stupid excuse to launch ad hominem attack on me and Judy? All he needs to do is access an old file like he trotted out today, edit and tweak it a little, and write the same old shit about us as he usually does. Next time, and there will be a next time, Barry should save himself the trouble of inventing an excuse to attack us and JUST DO IT OUTRIGHT rather than cowardly covering his ass. Me, I've worked with and been friends with for several decades now *real* feminists. None of them would waste any time or energy whining about sexism or pointing fingers at the people they BLAME for it. They're too busy doing something with their lives, and proving that sexism is no barrier to anyone except those who allow it to be. No one reasonable can *miss* the imbalance in their positions and their outlooks on life when these two get like this. They are simply incapable of keeping the loathing that they feel out of their voices. Even their screen voices. And I, for one, think it's unproductive. If either of them *really* wanted to change things, they'd have developed by this time some awareness of how they are *perceived* when they get like this, and that it has the effect of turning people OFF to the issue, not increasing their awareness of it. My take on such women is the same as that of my real feminist friends -- they don't want to change things; they want to bitch about things. None of the strong women I know -- and that includes CEOs of multi-million dollar firms, high-level executives in corporations, and Olympic medal winners -- would have anything to do with either Raunchy or Judy. They would be embarrassed by them, as they are by women like Andrea Dworkin, Susan Brownmiller, Catharine MacKinnon and others who take similar blame the men stands as radical feminists. The women I know -- DOERs all, winners all -- look upon such women as losers, and as *obstacles* to eliminating sexism. I see the pragmatic elimination of sexism in the workplace every time I see women in confer- ence rooms being just one of the guys. NOT meaning that they're acting like guys, just meaning that they're not trying to either stand out or be submissive. These successful women do not perceive themselves as being *any different* than the guys, and as a result the guys don't treat them any differently. Some- times I think that the women who still cling to BLAME and the tenets of radical feminism just don't get out much, and haven't worked in offices for years. If they had, they would have seen how real women have found a way to deal with sexism without it being a big issue for them. It's only the shut-ins who only think *about* succeeding instead of doing it, and who seem to still be stuck in this mindset of men are keeping us down. They are keeping themselves down. By desperately clinging to wrongs done in the past and dwelling on them, they keep themselves locked firmly in the victim mindset. By spend- ing all their time assigning BLAME and seeking some kind of revenge, they piss all that time and all that energy away on being angry instead of being successful. The bottom line as I see it is that both Raunchy and Judy are the most sexist posters on this forum. Both have admitted that they would prefer a woman candidate for president, simply because she's a woman. I and other men they have char- acterized as sexist would never do that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard M Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:52 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound?? This is sad. Jimi was halfway into the next world by the time of the Isle of Wight festival. His playing was terrible by his standards, and his inspiration had left him. A few weeks later he was dead. Just recently I watched a bio on Peter Green. To my mind, like Jimi, he had a special something which went way beyond technique and musicianship (Albatross, Man Of The World, Green Manalishi, Oh Well). It was terrible what happened to him too. He's still with us, but the spirit he embodied was snuffed out decades ago. It DOES seem to me that the world conspired to block out the light from these guys. It's not the CIA or anything (though some weird things did happen to Hendrix). Perhaps it's just the flip side to the sensitivity that explains their genius, i.e. that they can easily get overwhelmed. Perhaps they attract rakshasas like moths to the light? Green plays on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFNFafg7bNQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFNFafg7bNQfeature=related feature=related I don't know about Green, but Hendrix took a lot of drugs. That'll burn you out pretty quick. He ended up suffocating on his own vomit while out of it on some combination of chemicals. It was a toxic combo of wine sleeping pills.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Have you guys heard nothing here? You mock me. Read the research, the links. http://www.invincibility.org/research.html The science is clear. Show some respect for what has been accomplished along the way by many of our friends who sacrificed in coming to make this happen. Like, what kind of meditators are ewes anyway that you could just spit on the memories of ours who have also gone before us on the path. This is a day also for all peacemakers. Indeed. Instead of going to a memorial celebrating the killing of human beings by other human beings, why not visit this one instead? http://www.peaceabbey.org/memorial/memorial.htm I know the guy who created this, and who runs the Peace Abbey. His idea was simple: In every town in America there is a War Memorial. Why not create a Peace Memorial. The idea was met with protests, vandalism, lawsuits, and hatred. People tried to not only stop it but to drive him and his family out of town. You would have thought that he was proposing (and offering to pay for) the creation of a memorial to child molestors. But he hung in there, and the result is one of America's only memorials that celebrates the antithesis of war. Says a lot about what America *really* believes in and stands for, eh?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: [snip] Lawson, Politicians define themselves ideologically by their words and deeds on a political spectrum ranging from left to right. Left is the big Mommy government, I'll share mine with you. Right is the small Daddy government, I've got mine, too bad about you. What a contentious way to set the scene! Surely not right=daddy=male=selfish=bad? And if you're gonna think of it as Mommy v Daddy values, don't we probably need BOTH? We could do with the strengths of each without the weaknesses of each (value)? It's why most of us ignore Raunchy and Judy when they get like this. They're both old school feminists, in that their schtick is all about BLAME. Apparently Barry is as clueless as Richard M about the concept of a left/right political spectrum. Based on Richard M's misunderstanding of common terminology, Barry, politically misinformed as usual, writes a laughable non sequitur. Why does he need such a stupid excuse to launch ad hominem attack on me and Judy? All he needs to do is access an old file like he trotted out today, edit and tweak it a little, and write the same old shit about us as he usually does. Next time, and there will be a next time, Barry should save himself the trouble of inventing an excuse to attack us and JUST DO IT OUTRIGHT rather than cowardly covering his ass. Predictably, when called on playing the victim, Raunchy plays the victim. She clearly didn't read a word of what I wrote, all of which I wrote anew, none of which was recycled. Except for the concept, of course, which is as true today as it was the last time I brought it up. And at this rate will be still as true the day she dies, still playing the victim and blaming others for how shitty she feels. I'll leave the rest for those who can actually read. Me, I've worked with and been friends with for several decades now *real* feminists. None of them would waste any time or energy whining about sexism or pointing fingers at the people they BLAME for it. They're too busy doing something with their lives, and proving that sexism is no barrier to anyone except those who allow it to be. No one reasonable can *miss* the imbalance in their positions and their outlooks on life when these two get like this. They are simply incapable of keeping the loathing that they feel out of their voices. Even their screen voices. And I, for one, think it's unproductive. If either of them *really* wanted to change things, they'd have developed by this time some awareness of how they are *perceived* when they get like this, and that it has the effect of turning people OFF to the issue, not increasing their awareness of it. My take on such women is the same as that of my real feminist friends -- they don't want to change things; they want to bitch about things. None of the strong women I know -- and that includes CEOs of multi-million dollar firms, high-level executives in corporations, and Olympic medal winners -- would have anything to do with either Raunchy or Judy. They would be embarrassed by them, as they are by women like Andrea Dworkin, Susan Brownmiller, Catharine MacKinnon and others who take similar blame the men stands as radical feminists. The women I know -- DOERs all, winners all -- look upon such women as losers, and as *obstacles* to eliminating sexism. I see the pragmatic elimination of sexism in the workplace every time I see women in confer- ence rooms being just one of the guys. NOT meaning that they're acting like guys, just meaning that they're not trying to either stand out or be submissive. These successful women do not perceive themselves as being *any different* than the guys, and as a result the guys don't treat them any differently. Some- times I think that the women who still cling to BLAME and the tenets of radical feminism just don't get out much, and haven't worked in offices for years. If they had, they would have seen how real women have found a way to deal with sexism without it being a big issue for them. It's only the shut-ins who only think *about* succeeding instead of doing it, and who seem to still be stuck in this mindset of men are keeping us down. They are keeping themselves down. By desperately clinging to wrongs done in the past and dwelling on them, they keep themselves locked firmly in the victim mindset. By spend- ing all their time assigning BLAME and seeking some kind of revenge, they piss all that time and all that energy away on being angry instead
[FairfieldLife] Question For Raunchydog
I hope Fairfield is having a beautiful day today. I have wonderful memories from my youth of the Midwest in May. My question follows. Is the following statement sexist? Nothing would have thrilled me more than to have been able to support a black man (or even better, a black woman) for president. I ask this question to help me get a better read on your POV. When Judy was asked about this she changed the subject, attacked, then ran.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
In all fairness, in a moment of astoundingly rare humility, let me admit that my power of music query was, even for me, fluffy, scattered, ambling and all around Edg lite. So much so, that even Vaj had to complain. That said, what the hey, eh? If I blog here, if I overly indulge in promoting Trikkes, if I snort about the imagined-up look in some expat's eye, really, what the hey -- where's the harm? Here's my prevailing theory about why, say, Sal is so eager to be a critic about my posts: she knows that even thousands of years from now, I'll be recognized as one of the wisest of posters ever in existence, and she figure's she'll at least get some footnote in history as one of the trolls who attach themselves to Edg's greatest by any means. Ahh, that was fun just typing it! As for anyone seeming sexy to me, geeze, I don't even pick up the swimsuit edition of Sports Illustrated at the newstand and fan it for a quickie titter-giggle. I don't know how it happened, but I turned into an old man somewhere along the line, such that, while a hawt bod can get me to pause when viewing a bevy, the second thought never comes now. The parts of me that once invested in such fantasies have discovered that investment in such entertainments always leads to a final reality check that poofs the thought balloon above my cartoon head. Nope, me needs a real relationship if I'm going to see someone as sexy. It's the same deal with being a side-walk artist with one's wares hung on a fence for passers-by -- the viewers that pause and peer closely, those are the ones to whom the artist introduces him/herself. Just so, who wants a stranger sucking on your dick when you can have someone who really really really knows all about your darkside and yet still wants physical intimacy? No competition at all, see? So, by my definition, Sal cannot be sexy to me until I've fallen in love with all of her, not just her great tits and ass -- and I think I speak for all here that Sal MUST have great tits and ass because God wouldn't be so mean as to create a human who is so lacking in all other respects without tossing in something to balance the scales. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: quick Edg, call her sexy like Turqy did, and just as she now sees his verbal diarrhea as brilliant and insightful, she will see your far superior writing for what it is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Edg has one of the most commonly occurring illnesses affecting those retirees bored to tears, Vaj: a chronic and usually incurable condition known as Verbal Diarrhea, or in the case of people who can't stop typing, Keyboardus Boringitis Maximus. This condition usually manifests itself in incomprehensible, long-winded diatribes that spew forth from the sufferer's keyboard, usually without regard to the fact that almost nobody actually *reads* said tracts, and always with regard to the fact that by the end of said tracts, the sufferer is so bored himself (or herself, as the case may be) with his own nonsense that he has totally blanked out on what the original point was, and hence keeps typing away aimlessly. There is so far no known cure for this sad condition, but there is one upside (so to speak): it works as an excellent sleeping pill for those unfortunates (or saints, depending on your POV) who might actually attempt to make sense of one of these tracts, rather than simply yawning and pressing the delete button. Sal Is that so? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: [snip] Lawson, Politicians define themselves ideologically by their words and deeds on a political spectrum ranging from left to right. Left is the big Mommy government, I'll share mine with you. Right is the small Daddy government, I've got mine, too bad about you. What a contentious way to set the scene! Surely not right=daddy=male=selfish=bad? And if you're gonna think of it as Mommy v Daddy values, don't we probably need BOTH? We could do with the strengths of each without the weaknesses of each (value)? It's why most of us ignore Raunchy and Judy when they get like this. They're both old school feminists, in that their schtick is all about BLAME. Apparently Barry is as clueless as Richard M about the concept of a left/right political spectrum. Based on Richard M's misunderstanding of common terminology, Barry, politically misinformed as usual, writes a laughable non sequitur. Why does he need such a stupid excuse to launch ad hominem attack on me and Judy? All he needs to do is access an old file like he trotted out today, edit and tweak it a little, and write the same old shit about us as he usually does. Next time, and there will be a next time, Barry should save himself the trouble of inventing an excuse to attack us and JUST DO IT OUTRIGHT rather than cowardly covering his ass. Raunchy - you are most unkind to bring attention to my cluelessness- ness. Let me try to make my point again all the same. You said: Right is the small Daddy government, 'I've got mine, too bad about you.' I questioned that as contentious (from which you consign me to cluelessness-ness). In fact you replied in other post like so: The concept of a political spectrum from left to right is High School Civics 101. It's how we define a politicians political values. The use of the term Mommy or Daddy State is quite common. It is not something I made up. Extreme Mommy State represents the extreme Left. Extreme Daddy State represent the extreme right. If you want a balance between Mommy and Daddy, you are describing a Centrist politics. Well I'm afraid I have not had the benefit of High School Civics 101. But that doesn't matter as, I am not at all questioning your Mommy/Daddy analogy in this case. No - I queried your assertion that the daddy value amounts to I've got mine, too bad about you. I would put it to you that it is not clueless to question or deny that characterization (in fact if anything the cluelessness-ness lies in that assertion!). I would also put it to you that it is pretty darn clueless to think that much weight can be put on the left/right divide in any case. Yes, the left forms a sort of coherent continuum. But the right? Where's the continuum between the ideas of classical liberalism and National Socialism? Seems to me the right is just the term lazy lefties reserve for anyone who disagrees with them, the aim being to generate guilt by association with dodgy bedfellows.
[FairfieldLife] Watching Paint Dry
Okay, just wanted to use that title to see if anyone actually clicked through. If you're reading this, the question is: Why would you think something entitled thusly from a known blubberer would be interesting enough to justify even the little work of clicking a mouse? Okay, I know the answer: I'm so fucking entertaining that I can even make the classic metaphor for boredom a juicy topic that has one enthralled. Now, if anyone doubts that . . . well they haven't read enough of my posts yet to have finally come to the recognition that I deserve. I'm an acquired taste is all. You know how pride goeth before the fall? Well, above was the pride, I'm going out for my second trikking session right now -- stay tuned: a proverb is about to be tested. Edg
[FairfieldLife] FFL posting problem
I've been trying to post an article on Scientology in France being on trial for fraud. Yahoo keeps saying it didn't work. Anyway it's from the Independent [UK] Here's the link in Tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/ok626a and Snipurl: http://snipurl.com/iqn7f
[FairfieldLife] The Cheney Bunch TV Show
http://www.internetweekly.org/2009/05/cartoon_the_cheney_bunch.html
[FairfieldLife] Scientology on trial in France (was Re: FFL posting problem)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: I've been trying to post an article on Scientology in France being on trial for fraud. Yahoo keeps saying it didn't work. Anyway it's from the Independent [UK] Here's the link in Tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/ok626a and Snipurl: http://snipurl.com/iqn7f Interesting that they would go after them as illegal pharmacists. But it's very possible there, because in France (as in much of the rest of Europe) sales and dispensing of vitamins as you know it in the US are unheard of. Given what I've heard of Scientology, they probably prescribe megadoses of vitamins, which pretty much means that they have to import them illegally from other countries. Most vitamins in France are sold only in pharmacies, and only in small dosages and small bottles. Hell, you can't buy a bottle of aspirin in France the way you can in the US; the largest sized box of aspirin you would be able to find would contain 20 tablets. And you would never be able to find even that tiny box of 20 except at a pharmacy. Most vitamins are the same. It was common among French I knew who were into vitamins as therapy (or for bodybuilding or sports) to take periodic buying trips to Germany, where they were sold similarly to the way they are in the US. To some extent, this is the result more of protectionism on the part of the French than an anti-vitamin stance. The French are very good at creating protection zones around powerful interest groups who have lobbied the government to do so, such as doctors, pharmacists, and even tobacconists. These groups are basically guaranteed the con- cession, a veritable monopoly on the product or service in question. In France, for example, no one can legally practice acupuncture or acupressure or homeopathy or naturopathy without being a licensed M.D. or in the direct employ of one, who is expected to supervise -- for a profit, of course. The sales of vitamins are similarly restricted in Spain, and it's pretty much impossible to find large dosages or large quantities of them if you're into that sorta thing. Since I'm not, it doesn't impact me at all. On the other hand, Spain sells many drugs over the counter in pharmacies without a prescrip- tion, such as antibiotics, antivirals, and other common drugs that you would need to go to a doctor in the US or France and have pre- scribed for you...again, at a profit. So everywhere has its own way of doing things. Fascinating that Scientology may have brought itself down in France by paying no heed to something they probably thought was a silly law that they didn't have to pay attention to. It conjures up memories of gangsters like Al Capone finally being put away not for murder- ing dozens of people -- which they did -- but for tax evasion. God is in the details, they say. If Scien- tology bites the dust in France, I guess they will have to extend that to Religion is also in the details.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Meditation
I think I'll stick with the traditional, Doug. At least at this point I prefer to acknowledge the many lives that WERE sacraficed in securing a pretty decent way of life here, even with all its shortcomings. Yes, and I like to also remember all of those who, although they did not die physically, they died inside on some level, leading to a life that was much less fulfilling than it could have been. http://www.endhomelessness.org/content/article/detail/1837 Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Mon, 5/25/09, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Meditation To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 10:01 AM I think I'll stick with the traditional, Doug. At least at this point I prefer to acknowledge the many lives that WERE sacraficed in securing a pretty decent way of life here, even with all its shortcomings. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: of Remembrances, a short prayer. Prayer for our Practicing Meditators. Demographically there is now a list of our meditator friends whose mortal lives have passed away. On a Memorial Day Remembering: Prayer 'Transcendent and Manifest Lord of all Nature, hold our meditators in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen.' Om Shanti, -Doug in FF To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound?? Jimi Hendrix was a master...beyond the usual, as is stated above... He was 3 hit wonder and an extra-ordinary poser. Its a good thing he died, he would have gone on to make some horrible noises. I couldn't get into Electric Ladyland. I thought he was getting burned out by that time. But Are You Experienced? and Axis: Bold as Love were masterpieces, except for a couple of songs written by Noel Redding (Hendrix's bass player). He was great, I admit it ! Some of his best stuff were cover versions though, such as Bob Dylan's All along the Watchtower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs OffWorld This is sad. Jimi was halfway into the next world by the time of the Isle of Wight festival. His playing was terrible by his standards, and his inspiration had left him. I disagree. He was pushing this riff to the limits, and even outside of the limits, in this. It is sheer genius and more than effortless. Its as if he is entirely in his zone of mastery and nothing can touch him. Every second of this is pure expression - and considering it is a concert and probably a long day there for him, it is an unbelievably classic recording of Hendrix at his greatest. OffWorld A few weeks later he was dead. Just recently I watched a bio on Peter Green. To my mind, like Jimi, he had a special something which went way beyond technique and musicianship (Albatross, Man Of The World, Green Manalishi, Oh Well). It was terrible what happened to him too. He's still with us, but the spirit he embodied was snuffed out decades ago. It DOES seem to me that the world conspired to block out the light from these guys. It's not the CIA or anything (though some weird things did happen to Hendrix). Perhaps it's just the flip side to the sensitivity that explains their genius, i.e. that they can easily get overwhelmed. Perhaps they attract rakshasas like moths to the light? Green plays on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFNFafg7bNQfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFNFafg7bNQfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Watching Paint Dry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Okay, just wanted to use that title to see if anyone actually clicked through. If you're reading this, the question is: Why would you think something entitled thusly from a known blubberer would be interesting enough to justify even the little work of clicking a mouse? Okay, I know the answer: I'm so fucking entertaining that I can even make the classic metaphor for boredom a juicy topic that has one enthralled. Now, if anyone doubts that . . . well they haven't read enough of my posts yet to have finally come to the recognition that I deserve. I'm an acquired taste is all. You know how pride goeth before the fall? Well, above was the pride, I'm going out for my second trikking session right now -- stay tuned: a proverb is about to be tested. Edg Read most of the stuff and wondered if it might be like watching ice melt or grass grow or, if there was something new going on. In these times, there are few who afford themselves the luxury of any of the above. Saw a lad here going along on a trike but it looked like hard work even tho on the flat street.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: [snip] Lawson, Politicians define themselves ideologically by their words and deeds on a political spectrum ranging from left to right. Left is the big Mommy government, I'll share mine with you. Right is the small Daddy government, I've got mine, too bad about you. What a contentious way to set the scene! Surely not right=daddy=male=selfish=bad? And if you're gonna think of it as Mommy v Daddy values, don't we probably need BOTH? We could do with the strengths of each without the weaknesses of each (value)? It's why most of us ignore Raunchy and Judy when they get like this. They're both old school feminists, in that their schtick is all about BLAME. Apparently Barry is as clueless as Richard M about the concept of a left/right political spectrum. Based on Richard M's misunderstanding of common terminology, Barry, politically misinformed as usual, writes a laughable non sequitur. Why does he need such a stupid excuse to launch ad hominem attack on me and Judy? All he needs to do is access an old file like he trotted out today, edit and tweak it a little, and write the same old shit about us as he usually does. Next time, and there will be a next time, Barry should save himself the trouble of inventing an excuse to attack us and JUST DO IT OUTRIGHT rather than cowardly covering his ass. Raunchy - you are most unkind to bring attention to my cluelessness- ness. Let me try to make my point again all the same. You said: Right is the small Daddy government, 'I've got mine, too bad about you.' I questioned that as contentious (from which you consign me to cluelessness-ness). In fact you replied in other post like so: The concept of a political spectrum from left to right is High School Civics 101. It's how we define a politicians political values. The use of the term Mommy or Daddy State is quite common. It is not something I made up. Extreme Mommy State represents the extreme Left. Extreme Daddy State represent the extreme right. If you want a balance between Mommy and Daddy, you are describing a Centrist politics. Well I'm afraid I have not had the benefit of High School Civics 101. But that doesn't matter as, I am not at all questioning your Mommy/Daddy analogy in this case. No - I queried your assertion that the daddy value amounts to I've got mine, too bad about you. I would put it to you that it is not clueless to question or deny that characterization (in fact if anything the cluelessness-ness lies in that assertion!). Actually the concept of a political spectrum is quite specific. I would agree that your assertion is not clueless. It only shows you are taking exception to my portrayal of conservatives as uncaring. The right wing believes in small government, unregulated markets, big military, discipline and an interest in controlling your personal life i.e. what happens in your bedroom. I'm guessing you lean right and you don't like it that the Republican Daddy party is getting a bad rap today. Sorry, my Lefty preference is showing. If you are interested in understanding political values of left and right, here is an entertaining survey you can take to discover where you are on the spectrum of left and right. http://www.politicalcompass.org/ I would also put it to you that it is pretty darn clueless to think that much weight can be put on the left/right divide in any case. Yes, the left forms a sort of coherent continuum. But the right? Where's the continuum between the ideas of classical liberalism and National Socialism? Seems to me the right is just the term lazy lefties reserve for anyone who disagrees with them, the aim being to generate guilt by association with dodgy bedfellows.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffl...@... wrote: I think I'll stick with the traditional, Doug. At least at this point I prefer to acknowledge the many lives that WERE sacraficed in securing a pretty decent way of life here, even with all its shortcomings. Yes, and I like to also remember all of those who, although they did not die physically, they died inside on some level, leading to a life that was much less fulfilling than it could have been. fflmod? Who you to judge that one anyway? Name yourself. Which one are you? Unvail thyself you damned anonymous ffmod. Yeah right. You to judge that way. Your spiritual stripes? Some IT guy? Spit on our pioneer meditators? Look at the science, you have no perspective, obviously no experience. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spain
you wouldn't be indulging in a dick swinging contest would ya, Turqy? you wouldn't be showing evidence of attachment to your self image, wudja Turqy? you wouldn't be getting all bent out of shape over someone else's OPINION of you, wudja? PS i don't live in the greater SF Bay Area. wrong time zone... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: Sal is talking about the fellow wanting to visit Seville getting in touch with the half-drunk, caffeinated TM basher and all round dog walking cynic and narcissist, Barry, and how transformative hanging around this failed tech writer and cult groupie will be for someone who has a coherent and successful spiritual life. Kinda sad really... Indeed. Perhaps we should advise the fellow to cancel his trip to Seville and journey instead to Santa Clara, CA, where he can visit with enlightened_dawn11, who has claimed to be enlightened as a result of practicing TM. Just look at the wisdom, equanimity, and genteel, highly-evolved language enlightened_dawn uses above, and in similar posts to Fairfield Life. Notice how free of jealousy these posts are, and how free of anger or any kind of lesser spit human emotion. Note the way ed11 is able to see Unity and the best in everything and everyone. Note also how much ed11 embodies Maharishi's idea of creative intelligence by *making up* most of what is written above, about someone she/he has never met. Surely the wannabe Seville-visitor would be better off spending time with someone who so obviously represents and lives all the qualities and bene- fits of enlightenment. Think of all that he could learn from enlightened_dawn11, as opposed to the little he could learn from meeting someone like myself, who has never claimed to be enlightened. The choice is clear. Spend time in a wonderful country full of charm and history and people who know how to live life as if living it fully were ...uh...the *point* of life. Or cancel the trip and go instead to a town known far and wide as the asshole of the greater SF Bay area, there to hang with someone as enlightened as ed11 and bask in her/his holy darshan. I sure know which one I'd choose. H...come to think of it, I already did. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spain
poo poo head! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: Sal is talking about the fellow wanting to visit Seville getting in touch with the half-drunk, caffeinated TM basher and all round dog walking cynic and narcissist, Barry, and how transformative hanging around this failed tech writer and cult groupie will be for someone who has a coherent and successful spiritual life. Kinda sad really... Indeed. Perhaps we should advise the fellow to cancel his trip to Seville and journey instead to Santa Clara, CA, where he can visit with enlightened_dawn11, who has claimed to be enlightened as a result of practicing TM. Just look at the wisdom, equanimity, and genteel, highly-evolved language enlightened_dawn uses above, and in similar posts to Fairfield Life. Notice how free of jealousy these posts are, and how free of anger or any kind of lesser spit human emotion. Note the way ed11 is able to see Unity and the best in everything and everyone. Note also how much ed11 embodies Maharishi's idea of creative intelligence by *making up* most of what is written above, about someone she/he has never met. Surely the wannabe Seville-visitor would be better off spending time with someone who so obviously represents and lives all the qualities and bene- fits of enlightenment. Think of all that he could learn from enlightened_dawn11, as opposed to the little he could learn from meeting someone like myself, who has never claimed to be enlightened. The choice is clear. Spend time in a wonderful country full of charm and history and people who know how to live life as if living it fully were ...uh...the *point* of life. Or cancel the trip and go instead to a town known far and wide as the asshole of the greater SF Bay area, there to hang with someone as enlightened as ed11 and bask in her/his holy darshan. I sure know which one I'd choose. H...come to think of it, I already did. :-) She [he?] comes off with the intellectual maturity of an obnoxious Jr High kid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: She [he?] comes off with the intellectual maturity of an obnoxious Jr High kid. poo poo head! Good Lord, this is how you continue to represent yourself? How embarrassing for you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: Sal is talking about the fellow wanting to visit Seville getting in touch with the half-drunk, caffeinated TM basher and all round dog walking cynic and narcissist, Barry, and how transformative hanging around this failed tech writer and cult groupie will be for someone who has a coherent and successful spiritual life. Kinda sad really... Indeed. Perhaps we should advise the fellow to cancel his trip to Seville and journey instead to Santa Clara, CA, where he can visit with enlightened_dawn11, who has claimed to be enlightened as a result of practicing TM. Just look at the wisdom, equanimity, and genteel, highly-evolved language enlightened_dawn uses above, and in similar posts to Fairfield Life. Notice how free of jealousy these posts are, and how free of anger or any kind of lesser spit human emotion. Note the way ed11 is able to see Unity and the best in everything and everyone. Note also how much ed11 embodies Maharishi's idea of creative intelligence by *making up* most of what is written above, about someone she/he has never met. Surely the wannabe Seville-visitor would be better off spending time with someone who so obviously represents and lives all the qualities and bene- fits of enlightenment. Think of all that he could learn from enlightened_dawn11, as opposed to the little he could learn from meeting someone like myself, who has never claimed to be enlightened. The choice is clear. Spend time in a wonderful country full of charm and history and people who know how to live life as if living it fully were ...uh...the *point* of life. Or cancel the trip and go instead to a town known far and wide as the asshole of the greater SF Bay area, there to hang with someone as enlightened as ed11 and bask in her/his holy darshan. I sure know which one I'd choose. H...come to think of it, I already did. :-) She [he?] comes off with the intellectual maturity of an obnoxious Jr High kid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On May 24, 2009, at 10:35 PM, raunchydog wrote: Hillary, bless her heart, has a long history as a died in the wool ideologue in the tradition of FDR and Truman Hillary is the ultimate opportunist--that's why she lost. Sal Sal, brush up on your reading skills. Hillary has a long history as an ideologue, a person with core principles as a Democrat which is quite the opposite of an opportunist. If you care to respond, I'll help you make your case. Just to provide you with a little structure, these are questions you should ask yourself before you make anymore hair-brained pronouncements about Hillary: Why does Sal think Hillary is an opportunist? What does Sal know about Hillary that supports her argument that she is an opportunist? What is an opportunist? And here is the kicker, the most important question of all: Why does Sal think being an opportunist has anything to do with Hillary's loss? As Judy would say, Non sequitur. It doesn't matter whether you can prove or disprove Hillary is an opportunist, it has absolutely nothing to do with why she lost. Read a few posts on this thread from Raunchy and Judy and get informed about why we think Hillary lost. Hint: Sexism, Caucus fraud and the DNC rigging the delegate count. The 'Worm Turned' for Hillary, in South Carolina... Her husband Long Dong Bill, began ranting about some some racist stuff, which he had be 'In the Closet' about, and the Blacks turned against the Clinton's...they never recovered... Basically it was time for the 'Baby Boomer' generation to hand over the baton... After Bill and George, we had simply enough of arrogant lying ways of these two soul bros... Poppa Bushie, Bill's adopted Dad, and George Porgie pudding and pie, stuck it to us all, and made us cry Let's face it folks, it was time for a 'Cool Change'... Hillary lost because she was doing it, 'Old School'... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: [snip] Actually the concept of a political spectrum is quite specific. I would agree that your assertion is not clueless. It only shows you are taking exception to my portrayal of conservatives as uncaring. The right wing believes in small government, unregulated markets, big military, discipline and an interest in controlling your personal life i.e. what happens in your bedroom. I'm guessing you lean right and you don't like it that the Republican Daddy party is getting a bad rap today. Sorry, my Lefty preference is showing. If you are interested in understanding political values of left and right, here is an entertaining survey you can take to discover where you are on the spectrum of left and right. http://www.politicalcompass.org/ I tried the survey - but I'm afraid I found I couldn't accept the premiss of many of the questions. eg Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment (I think they're bound together). I'm guessing you lean right. Well do I? I think you (like many lefties) confuse liberals, libertarians, authoritarians, nationalists, and plonk them all together in one bag the Right. Not only that, but for your ilk the Left are the white knights (and knightesses of course). The Right are the bad guys. You don't like it that the Republican Daddy party is getting a bad rap today. Well no, I'm agnostic. I don't know enough about US politics. I believe that your centre ground is probably way to the right of our (Brit) centre ground though. And we have just had over a decade of power for our Left party (Labour). Under this very Left government (by your standards) we have had: * much bigger government (that's true) * less regulated markets (or more accurately, incompetently regulated markets) * big military and plenty of war * draconian initiatives on discipline (but ineffective) * a huge growth in the attempt to control our personal lives with a phenomenal growth in surveillance in particular. I should say I don't care much for any of those trends. So you see plenty of your right wing flotsam drifts in on the leftist tide!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Jai Guru Dev
Hi S. Kaushik, Guyfawkes in his recent reply to you packs a lot into a short response. Seems is a lot of truth in his observations. These links are some recent posts relating to what you are asking. Is a lot about the character and volitions of the people involved now. Is some lot of figuring out what they have now with Maharishi gone. Take a look at these. Hopefully they will open for you: Observing TMorg volition King Tony http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/218754 Bevan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/218599 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/218677 Utopian Voice: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/217498 These posts scratch the surface. I have a question to ask to you people in his group that who is the person who is taking care of every thing in the western country. Like in India we have Griesh Ji Who is taking care of every thing. All the very best for you all Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] gandharvaveda musik concert at meru
dear friends, we had a beautifull very special gandharvavedaconcert at meru holland, in maharishis house, with ranajid and shirin sengupta. never heared such a cosmic enlightened relaxing musik, this is a complete new generation of gandharvaveda musicians . http://www.raga.de/Musiker/Ranajit-Sengupta.html if you have been lucky, you watched this concert on maharishi familychat. if not, just take a little taste of this musik here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQlA9yjMZGMfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkyUi0CjJIENR=1 enjoy michael
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question For Raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_re...@... wrote: I hope Fairfield is having a beautiful day today. I have wonderful memories from my youth of the Midwest in May. My question follows. Is the following statement sexist? Nothing would have thrilled me more than to have been able to support a black man (or even better, a black woman) for president. I ask this question to help me get a better read on your POV. Yeah, is beautiful and pleasing May here in Iowa now. Woodland flowers done their full thing. Trees and understory have come out green good now. Fields tilled and crops mostly planted. Rain showers next few days. That should make everything sprout forth. 1st cutting of hay making is upon us. Iowa, first in equal rights for all, voted genuinely for Obama for many other good reasons. Hillary simply had too much baggage. That is simply how Iowans saw it on the ground mostly voted. Distilled down it was way more complex than race or gender. Sore losers aside. Is kind of old business and the world moved on. Iowans evidently figured it out then mostly aside from gender and race. So it was.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat May 23 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat May 30 00:00:00 2009 286 messages as of (UTC) Mon May 25 23:33:00 2009 35 authfriend jst...@panix.com 27 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com 26 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com 19 Robert babajii...@yahoo.com 17 off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.com 16 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com 14 Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com 11 satvadude108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 11 dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 9 Nelson nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com 9 do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com 8 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 7 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net 7 Richard M compost...@yahoo.co.uk 6 enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 6 Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com 6 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com 4 sparaig lengli...@cox.net 3 sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com 3 nelson lafrancis nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com 3 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 3 bob_brigante no_re...@yahoogroups.com 3 It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@gmail.com 2 scienceofabundance no_re...@yahoogroups.com 2 guyfawkes91 guyfawke...@yahoo.com 2 emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com 2 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com 2 Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 2 Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com 2 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 1 vedamer...@yahoo.de 1 shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.net 1 pranamoocher bh...@hotmail.com 1 okpeachman2000 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 michael vedamer...@yahoo.de 1 lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net 1 kuldip jhala kulls2...@yahoo.co.in 1 jyouells2000 john_youe...@comcast.net 1 jim_falkenstern jimfalkenst...@msn.com 1 gullible fool ffl...@yahoo.com 1 ffl...@yahoo.com 1 bhawani_shank2000 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@gmail.com 1 wle...@aol.com 1 Peter drpetersutp...@yahoo.com 1 John jr_...@yahoo.com 1 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 1 min.pige min.p...@yahoo.com 1 Richard J. Williams willy...@yahoo.com Posters: 49 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: [snip] Actually the concept of a political spectrum is quite specific. I would agree that your assertion is not clueless. It only shows you are taking exception to my portrayal of conservatives as uncaring. The right wing believes in small government, unregulated markets, big military, discipline and an interest in controlling your personal life i.e. what happens in your bedroom. I'm guessing you lean right and you don't like it that the Republican Daddy party is getting a bad rap today. Sorry, my Lefty preference is showing. If you are interested in understanding political values of left and right, here is an entertaining survey you can take to discover where you are on the spectrum of left and right. http://www.politicalcompass.org/ I tried the survey - but I'm afraid I found I couldn't accept the premiss of many of the questions. eg Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment (I think they're bound together). I'm guessing you lean right. Well do I? I think you (like many lefties) confuse liberals, libertarians, authoritarians, nationalists, and plonk them all together in one bag the Right. Not only that, but for your ilk the Left are the white knights (and knightesses of course). The Right are the bad guys. You don't like it that the Republican Daddy party is getting a bad rap today. Well no, I'm agnostic. I don't know enough about US politics. I believe that your centre ground is probably way to the right of our (Brit) centre ground though. And we have just had over a decade of power for our Left party (Labour). Under this very Left government (by your standards) we have had: * much bigger government (that's true) * less regulated markets (or more accurately, incompetently regulated markets) * big military and plenty of war * draconian initiatives on discipline (but ineffective) * a huge growth in the attempt to control our personal lives with a phenomenal growth in surveillance in particular. I should say I don't care much for any of those trends. So you see plenty of your right wing flotsam drifts in on the leftist tide! Well, I guess we're about even. I know as much about British politics as you do about American politics. Maybe we can learn something from each other. Liberal politics that go too far left can be just as detrimental to good governance as Conservatives too far right. Fortunately, the pendulum swings during elections and we get a chance to throw the bums out. Far left and far right values will remain in tact for many folks, but it is always the swing voter who determines the outcome of an election. The reason the Republican party is in such shambles, is that the far right is very energized during primary elections and politicians since Reagan have had to pander to them in order to make it to a general election. Consequently, the Republicans have ended up with a very small hardcore base whose agenda centers around hot button social issues i.e. anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, anti-illegal immigration, anti-taxation, pro-business, pro-gun, pro-military, and pro-small government. They have become the party of NO. Libertarians are happy with minimal government interference as well but don't care about social hot buttons. Surveillance is worrisome. Whether Left or Right, surveillance is ultimately about controlling the governed under the guise of protecting the governed. Once that technological genie is out of the bottle, no party, no matter who, will cede power by reversing course on surveillance. Gordon Brown isn't going to pull the plug on cameras watching you take a crap in a London loo anytime soon and Obama isn't going to reverse FISA anytime soon either. I believe people have definable political values. I took the political compass survey and ended up spot on with the Dalai Lama. The question, Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment, just wants your best guess on that one question to see if in the aggregate of questions you lean left or right. It seems to me, concern about controlling inflation means you think a right-leaning government should protect business and the consumer, and controlling unemployment means you think a left-leaning government should protect labor. What were your results on the survey?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard M Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:52 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Power of sound?? This is sad. Jimi was halfway into the next world by the time of the Isle of Wight festival. His playing was terrible by his standards, and his inspiration had left him. A few weeks later he was dead. Just recently I watched a bio on Peter Green. To my mind, like Jimi, he had a special something which went way beyond technique and musicianship (Albatross, Man Of The World, Green Manalishi, Oh Well). It was terrible what happened to him too. He's still with us, but the spirit he embodied was snuffed out decades ago. It DOES seem to me that the world conspired to block out the light from these guys. It's not the CIA or anything (though some weird things did happen to Hendrix). Perhaps it's just the flip side to the sensitivity that explains their genius, i.e. that they can easily get overwhelmed. Perhaps they attract rakshasas like moths to the light? Green plays on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFNFafg7bNQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFNFafg7bNQfeature=related feature=related I don't know about Green, but Hendrix took a lot of drugs. That'll burn you out pretty quick. He ended up suffocating on his own vomit while out of it on some combination of chemicals. And ? What's your point ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: raunchydog@ wrote: [snip] Lawson, Politicians define themselves ideologically by their words and deeds on a political spectrum ranging from left to right. Left is the big Mommy government, I'll share mine with you. Right is the small Daddy government, I've got mine, too bad about you. What a contentious way to set the scene! Surely not right=daddy=male=selfish=bad? Raunchy - you are most unkind to bring attention to my cluelessness- ness. Let me try to make my point again all the same. You said: Right is the small Daddy government, 'I've got mine, too bad about you.' I questioned that as contentious (from which you consign me to cluelessness-ness). In fact you replied in other post like so: The concept of a political spectrum from left to right is High School Civics 101. It's how we define a politicians political values. The use of the term Mommy or Daddy State is quite common. It is not something I made up. Extreme Mommy State represents the extreme Left. Extreme Daddy State represent the extreme right. If you want a balance between Mommy and Daddy, you are describing a Centrist politics. Well I'm afraid I have not had the benefit of High School Civics 101. But that doesn't matter as, I am not at all questioning your Mommy/Daddy analogy in this case. No - I queried your assertion that the daddy value amounts to I've got mine, too bad about you. I would put it to you that it is not clueless to question or deny that characterization (in fact if anything the cluelessness-ness lies in that assertion!). I think the idea of the political right as Daddy is more commonly used to refer to national security than to a selfish attitude about keeping what is yours. In other words, Mommy will comfort you but Daddy will keep you safe.
Re: [FairfieldLife] gandharvaveda musik concert at meru
Ja Ja, das ist ausgeseichnet! --- On Mon, 5/25/09, vedamer...@yahoo.de vedamer...@yahoo.de wrote: From: vedamer...@yahoo.de vedamer...@yahoo.de Subject: [FairfieldLife] gandharvaveda musik concert at meru To: Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 10:57 PM dear friends, we had a beautifull very special gandharvavedaconcer t at meru holland, in maharishis house, with ranajid and shirin sengupta. never heared such a cosmic enlightened relaxing musik, this is a complete new generation of gandharvaveda musicians . http://www.raga. de/Musiker/ Ranajit-Sengupta .html if you have been lucky, you watched this concert on maharishi familychat. if not, just take a little taste of this musik here http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=nQlA9yjMZGMfeature=related http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=nkyUi0CjJIENR=1 enjoy michael
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question For Raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ wrote: I hope Fairfield is having a beautiful day today. I have wonderful memories from my youth of the Midwest in May. My question follows. Is the following statement sexist? Nothing would have thrilled me more than to have been able to support a black man (or even better, a black woman) for president. I ask this question to help me get a better read on your POV. Yeah, is beautiful and pleasing May here in Iowa now. Woodland flowers done their full thing. Trees and understory have come out green good now. Fields tilled and crops mostly planted. Rain showers next few days. That should make everything sprout forth. 1st cutting of hay making is upon us. Iowa, first in equal rights for all, voted genuinely for Obama for many other good reasons. Hillary simply had too much baggage. That is simply how Iowans saw it on the ground mostly voted. Distilled down it was way more complex than race or gender. Sore losers aside. Is kind of old business and the world moved on. Iowans evidently figured it out then mostly aside from gender and race. So it was. Om---written as a meditator --- It is a great joy to hear the fecundity of Iowa is once again on display. I have been tempted for a couple of years to visit. May always seemed to be the golden period where winter had long since safely passed and summer heat was still only on the horizon. Iowa shall long enjoy the historically vanguard position of dumping the baggage and removing sexism and racism from the contest by offering Obama as a viable candidate to the rest of the nation. I still marvel at the astuteness of his staff in determining a winning strategy based on caucus states. Truly an auspicious display of creative intelligence. Would you know of the availability of food-tasters in your fair city of Fairfield? I'm concerned that should my presence be made known to certain misguided sexist quasi-pseudo feminists that a trusted food-taster would be helpful. Perhaps an underutilized pundit? Are they ever allowed outside of the barbwire fences?Would you know, will they work for cigarettes and American soft porn magazines?
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL posting problem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: I've been trying to post an article on Scientology in France being on trial for fraud. Yahoo keeps saying it didn't work. Why do you insist on posting such utter rubbish ? Because you are an ignorant fool; obviously ! Mr. Hubbard was a visionary and you are an utter foolish nobody ! How dare you challenge Mr. Hubbard ? Go back to where you belong; picking potatoes/corn/cotton or whatever closer to the abilities of your deranged socalled intellect. Mr. Hubbard's teachings will have more effect on human consciousness than phsycotheraphy. - Maharishi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Meditation
How sad. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Mon, 5/25/09, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: From: dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Memorial Day Meditation To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 6:00 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffl...@... wrote: I think I'll stick with the traditional, Doug. At least at this point I prefer to acknowledge the many lives that WERE sacraficed in securing a pretty decent way of life here, even with all its shortcomings. Yes, and I like to also remember all of those who, although they did not die physically, they died inside on some level, leading to a life that was much less fulfilling than it could have been. fflmod? Who you to judge that one anyway? Name yourself. Which one are you? Unvail thyself you damned anonymous ffmod. Yeah right. You to judge that way. Your spiritual stripes? Some IT guy? Spit on our pioneer meditators? Look at the science, you have no perspective, obviously no experience. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question For Raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_re...@... wrote: I hope Fairfield is having a beautiful day today. I have wonderful memories from my youth of the Midwest in May. My question follows. Is the following statement sexist? Nothing would have thrilled me more than to have been able to support a black man (or even better, a black woman) for president. I ask this question to help me get a better read on your POV. Judy can answer for herself. Although I suspect your sincerity and this is just a set up for a put down, I'll answer you straight up anyway and hope you will respond in kind. I think youI don't see her statement as sexist. I see it as a twofer, (female AND black) a far flung hope for something that is presently and utterly a far fetched political impossibility in America. IMO Judy's statement makes a case for her liberal bona fides, counters spurious accusations of racism because she didn't support Obama and simply expresses a hope for a woman president but not just ANY woman. I can assure you that neither of us would have voted for Sarah Palin for president just because she was a woman. Palin does not hold the same political values and that weighs heavily for fair minded feminists, which I believe we are. However, just one observation about Palin: I think she experienced the most abominable, vile, sexist assaults from the Left I have ever witnessed in politics, worse than Hillary and for that I will defend Palin. I will denounce sexist attacks on ANY woman. I think it is shameful that we have not elevated our conversation about women in American politics from juvenile sniggering about tits and ass to a more respectful regard for women. When Judy was asked about this she changed the subject, attacked, then ran. What post are you referring to when she changed the subject, attacked, then ran? I'd like to read it to see if I can figure out what makes you think this of Judy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL posting problem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: I've been trying to post an article on Scientology in France being on trial for fraud. Yahoo keeps saying it didn't work. Why do you insist on posting such utter rubbish ? Because you are an ignorant fool; obviously ! Mr. Hubbard was a visionary and you are an utter foolish nobody ! How dare you challenge Mr. Hubbard ? Go back to where you belong; picking potatoes/corn/cotton or whatever closer to the abilities of your deranged socalled intellect. Mr. Hubbard's teachings will have more effect on human consciousness than phsycotheraphy. - Maharishi Interesting, From what I had read of Mr. Hubbard, I had concluded that he was one of the more outstanding sources of used bull food.
[FairfieldLife] OffWorld-Music Only: Hendrix rents the temple in two.
Re: OffWorld-Music Only: Hendrix rents the temple in two. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: Headphones required for this thread: (go up-thread for more of OffWorld's picks.) OffWorld bows down profusely. Hendrix rents the temple in two. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USbJ4pfHmfgfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USbJ4pfHmfgfeature=related OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL posting problem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: I've been trying to post an article on Scientology in France being on trial for fraud. Yahoo keeps saying it didn't work. Why do you insist on posting such utter rubbish ? Because you are an ignorant fool; obviously ! Mr. Hubbard was a visionary and you are an utter foolish nobody ! How dare you challenge Mr. Hubbard ? Go back to where you belong; picking potatoes/corn/cotton or whatever closer to the abilities of your deranged socalled intellect. Mr. Hubbard's teachings will have more effect on human consciousness than phsycotheraphy. - Maharishi I don't know if Nabbie-Wabbie understands what he just did. He put the above quote in quotation marks, meaning that Maharishi said it verbatim. Is that correct, Nabbie?
RE: [FairfieldLife] OffWorld-Music Only: Hendrix rents the temple in two.
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 10:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] OffWorld-Music Only: Hendrix rents the temple in two. Re: OffWorld-Music Only: Hendrix rents the temple in two. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: Headphones required for this thread: (go up-thread for more of OffWorld's picks.) OffWorld bows down profusely. Hendrix rents the temple in two. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USbJ4pfHmfg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USbJ4pfHmfgfeature=related feature=related OffWorld Two Hendrix videos you have to watch: At Woodstock doing the Star Spangled Banner as the sun rose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2bGUeDnqPY At the Monterey Pop Festival, torching the Fender at the end: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-aoaXNYI0c
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL posting problem
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 10:51 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL posting problem --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: I've been trying to post an article on Scientology in France being on trial for fraud. Yahoo keeps saying it didn't work. Why do you insist on posting such utter rubbish ? Because you are an ignorant fool; obviously ! Mr. Hubbard was a visionary and you are an utter foolish nobody ! How dare you challenge Mr. Hubbard ? Go back to where you belong; picking potatoes/corn/cotton or whatever closer to the abilities of your deranged socalled intellect. Mr. Hubbard's teachings will have more effect on human consciousness than phsycotheraphy. - Maharishi I don't know if Nabbie-Wabbie understands what he just did. He put the above quote in quotation marks, meaning that Maharishi said it verbatim. Is that correct, Nabbie? He probably did say it. I heard MMY speak very highly of L. Ron Hubbard. But then, MMY didn't think much of psychotherapy, so in this instance, he may have been damning with faint praise.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL posting problem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: I've been trying to post an article on Scientology in France being on trial for fraud. Yahoo keeps saying it didn't work. Why do you insist on posting such utter rubbish ? Because you are an ignorant fool; obviously ! Mr. Hubbard was a visionary and you are an utter foolish nobody ! How dare you challenge Mr. Hubbard ? Go back to where you belong; picking potatoes/corn/cotton or whatever closer to the abilities of your deranged socalled intellect. Mr. Hubbard's teachings will have more effect on human consciousness than phsycotheraphy. - Maharishi I don't know if Nabbie-Wabbie understands what he just did. He put the above quote in quotation marks, meaning that Maharishi said it verbatim. Is that correct, Nabbie? Funny, the Germans are really sensitive to anything that smells(stinks) of Nazism, having been destroyed by that philosophy... So, they outlawed Scientology in Germany... The Maharishi was clever enough to hire some old Nazis, seeking to change their ways...so he by-passed the German Bundestag... Das ist Goot, Ya, Heidi..?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Jai Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , bhawani_shank2000 no_reply@ wrote: This is Pandit Bhawani Shankar Kaushik From Allahabad India, Warmest greetings to all of you from Allahabad. I hope that you all member of this Group are happy and well and doing fine. I have a question to ask to you people in his group that who is the person who is taking care of every thing in the western country. Like in India we have Griesh Ji Who is taking care of every thing. All the very best for you all Jai Guru Dev Who is Griesh Ji, and what does he do? Thanks OffWorld Mostly accounting...he's really into numbers. He also drives to the bank a lot... Other than that, meditation and the like... Nature takes care of itself... The bank takes care of the rest. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On May 24, 2009, at 10:35 PM, raunchydog wrote: Hillary, bless her heart, has a long history as a died in the wool ideologue in the tradition of FDR and Truman Hillary is the ultimate opportunist--that's why she lost. Sal Sal, brush up on your reading skills. Hillary has a long history as an ideologue, a person with core principles as a Democrat which is quite the opposite of an opportunist. If you care to respond, I'll help you make your case. Just to provide you with a little structure, these are questions you should ask yourself before you make anymore hair-brained pronouncements about Hillary: Why does Sal think Hillary is an opportunist? What does Sal know about Hillary that supports her argument that she is an opportunist? What is an opportunist? And here is the kicker, the most important question of all: Why does Sal think being an opportunist has anything to do with Hillary's loss? As Judy would say, Non sequitur. It doesn't matter whether you can prove or disprove Hillary is an opportunist, it has absolutely nothing to do with why she lost. Read a few posts on this thread from Raunchy and Judy and get informed about why we think Hillary lost. Hint: Sexism, Caucus fraud and the DNC rigging the delegate count. The 'Worm Turned' for Hillary, in South Carolina... Her husband Long Dong Bill, began ranting about some some racist stuff, which he had be 'In the Closet' about, and the Blacks turned against the Clinton's...they never recovered... Robert, If you are going to trash Bill Clinton, get your facts straight and find out what REALLY happened in South Carolina, learn the whole story in context and don't believe or consume all the media sound bites, spoon fed to you during the primary. The media jumped on Bill's Jessie Jackson comment TOTALLY out of context to make him look like he was race baiting when in fact it was the reporter baiting Bill. Anyway, the media took Bill's comments wildly out of context on Jackson having won S.C. twice and it blew up Hillary's campaign in S.C. Furthermore, even Jessie Jackson said that he was not offended by anything that Bill said about him. http://tinyurl.com/qo7wml Here's a link to Bill's entire interview. I don't see any race baiting in it at all. He simply stated a historical fact in response to a question. http://tinyurl.com/38ycmt Craig Crawford had an interesting take on the media's treatment of the Clinton's: http://tinyurl.com/pgabt9 Basically it was time for the 'Baby Boomer' generation to hand over the baton... After Bill and George, we had simply enough of arrogant lying ways of these two soul bros... Poppa Bushie, Bill's adopted Dad, and George Porgie pudding and pie, stuck it to us all, and made us cry Let's face it folks, it was time for a 'Cool Change'... Hillary lost because she was doing it, 'Old School'... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL posting problem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: [...] Mr. Hubbard's teachings will have more effect on human consciousness than phsycotheraphy.= - Maharishi I should hope so! L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Watching Paint Dry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Okay, just wanted to use that title to see if anyone actually clicked through. If you're reading this, the question is: Why would you think something entitled thusly from a known blubberer would be interesting enough to justify even the little work of clicking a mouse? Okay, I know the answer: I'm so fucking entertaining that I can even make the classic metaphor for boredom a juicy topic that has one enthralled. Now, if anyone doubts that . . . well they haven't read enough of my posts yet to have finally come to the recognition that I deserve. I'm an acquired taste is all. You know how pride goeth before the fall? Well, above was the pride, I'm going out for my second trikking session right now -- stay tuned: a proverb is about to be tested. Edg Read most of the stuff and wondered if it might be like watching ice melt or grass grow or, if there was something new going on. In these times, there are few who afford themselves the luxury of any of the above. Saw a lad here going along on a trike but it looked like hard work even tho on the flat street. What speed was the trikker going approximately? I can make my Trikke go about six miles per hour and you'd think I was doing no work whatsoever from the looks of it, or I can get it up to 18 mph if I really put the muscle into it. If it looked like the guy was trying hard and hardly moving: beginner. Trikkes for adult sized riders start about $250 and max out at $1700 depending on the model. It isn't a toy, and despite its total body workout, it isn't a fitness machine: it's a lifestyle choice that change one into a dancing person who swoops about the public ways on a magic carpet ride. Here's me taking it easy-ish: http://tinyurl.com/o35grp Here's me working it harder: http://tinyurl.com/qqhasp Here's me working even harder: http://tinyurl.com/q8o3u9 Here's the inventor of the Trikke, Gildo Beleski, showing that if you're carving hard, it's requiring all your body, from head to toe, committing to the action: http://tinyurl.com/qmmjbw Edg Edg
[FairfieldLife] Mel Gibson Falls
To All: Mel Gibson is human after all. See article below: It's official: Mel Gibson's girlfriend, Oksana Grigorieva, is pregnant. The actor confirmed the news during a taping of NBC's The Tonight Show With Jay Leno to air tonight. I guess Im 'Octo-Mel,' says Gibson, who already has seven kids with his wife of 28 years, Robyn. Robyn filed for divorce six weeks ago amidst speculation that Grigorieva, a singer on Gibson's record label, was expecting a child. My wife and I, our marriage ended three years ago and weve been separated ever since then, Gibson tells Leno. These things happen. It's unfortunate, it's sad, but you know she is an admirable woman -- we still got kids together, we're friends. Look, Gibson continues. When it's all said and done, I did a pretty good hatchet job on my marriage myself. I'm to blame. If you're inclined to judge, put it here. Gibson also says his separation from Robyn had nothing to do with Grigorieva, whom he didn't meet until 2008. When asked by Leno if they would wed, Gibson says: Why would you get married twice?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question For Raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ wrote: I hope Fairfield is having a beautiful day today. I have wonderful memories from my youth of the Midwest in May. My question follows. Is the following statement sexist? Nothing would have thrilled me more than to have been able to support a black man (or even better, a black woman) for president. I ask this question to help me get a better read on your POV. Judy can answer for herself. Although I suspect your sincerity and this is just a set up for a put down, I'll answer you straight up anyway and hope you will respond in kind. I think youI don't see her statement as sexist. I see it as a twofer, (female AND black) a far flung hope for something that is presently and utterly a far fetched political impossibility in America. IMO Judy's statement makes a case for her liberal bona fides, counters spurious accusations of racism because she didn't support Obama and simply expresses a hope for a woman president but not just ANY woman. I can assure you that neither of us would have voted for Sarah Palin for president just because she was a woman. Palin does not hold the same political values and that weighs heavily for fair minded feminists, which I believe we are. However, just one observation about Palin: I think she experienced the most abominable, vile, sexist assaults from the Left I have ever witnessed in politics, worse than Hillary and for that I will defend Palin. I will denounce sexist attacks on ANY woman. I think it is shameful that we have not elevated our conversation about women in American politics from juvenile sniggering about tits and ass to a more respectful regard for women. When Judy was asked about this she changed the subject, attacked, then ran. What post are you referring to when she changed the subject, attacked, then ran? I'd like to read it to see if I can figure out what makes you think this of Judy. I didn't ask about Judy. I can understand and respect your questioning my sincerity. I didn't ask about race. I didn't ask about Palin. I didn't ask what you will or won't denounce, but I operate from the premise that you hold sexism to be Bad. Capital B. I didn't snigger about T A. I didn't ask about a twofer. I simply asked if you thought the following statement was sexist. Nothing would have thrilled me more than to have been able to support a black man (or even better, a black woman) for president. You didn't answer my question. If you believe you did, perhaps I am misreading you due to a typo. I have no idea what your sentence (I think youI don't see her statement as sexist.) means. Please clarify. A simple yes or no would suffice. Is the statement I quoted sexist? I believe if you answer it honestly we can have an actual dialogue instead of hurling insults. *My* answer to the question Is the following a sexist statement? is Yes, and not just a little bit. Capital Y yes. That is not an opinion, it is a fact. Sexism is prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, on the basis of sex. What I would honestly like to know is if you see the sexism in the statement I have provided. Clearly, if you answer no I will have factual grounds for suggesting to you that you don't know what sexism is. If you answer yes then perhaps real communication can take place. I look forward to your response. I also look forward to being able to have mutually enlightening dialogue with you. I am not sure if you realize it or not. but you are much more interesting to communicate with when you don't have Judy distracting you. You might actually find the person on the other end of this internet connection is someone who you have more in common with than you think and is someone who has actually given the subject at hand some serious pondering over the years. Thanks in advance for your reply.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mel Gibson Falls
Mel -- the good Catholic. Jokes about parenting. Says to blame him but gives no reason why. Besmirches marriage. H, was Turq raised Catholic? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: To All: Mel Gibson is human after all. See article below: It's official: Mel Gibson's girlfriend, Oksana Grigorieva, is pregnant. The actor confirmed the news during a taping of NBC's The Tonight Show With Jay Leno to air tonight. I guess Im 'Octo-Mel,' says Gibson, who already has seven kids with his wife of 28 years, Robyn. Robyn filed for divorce six weeks ago amidst speculation that Grigorieva, a singer on Gibson's record label, was expecting a child. My wife and I, our marriage ended three years ago and weve been separated ever since then, Gibson tells Leno. These things happen. It's unfortunate, it's sad, but you know she is an admirable woman -- we still got kids together, we're friends. Look, Gibson continues. When it's all said and done, I did a pretty good hatchet job on my marriage myself. I'm to blame. If you're inclined to judge, put it here. Gibson also says his separation from Robyn had nothing to do with Grigorieva, whom he didn't meet until 2008. When asked by Leno if they would wed, Gibson says: Why would you get married twice?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question For Raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_re...@... wrote to Raunchydog: You might actually find the person on the other end of this internet connection is someone who you have more in common with than you think and is someone who has actually given the subject at hand some serious pondering over the years. Thanks in advance for your reply. Satva and Ranchy sitting in a tree K . . I . . S . . S . . I . . G! I think it is clear that the statement is not sexist. Edg
