[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: this is true. I have long known that Mahesh is one of the evil ones, who's very purpose was to hijack the world's promise of being benedicted with the Blessings of Guru Dev's great gift of TM; only to sabatoge the whole program. This was a deliberate plan on his part, from the very beginning. He won't be appearing in his Radiant Form to people - as occurs after the deaths of many Saints - since devils radiate the Dark Force, often appearing as animals. As was quoted (or spouted) earlier, Divinity takes every form like the Rig Veda takes the form of the horse headed sage, the wise are not disturbed by that. Therefore, should you be concerned if Maharishi starts appearing to you in an equine form? Neigh. Just pony up the cash like you did last time. Being saddle only ruin your day, not make it mare beautiful. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: More Mahesh Dark Yogi accounts surface: (From TM-Free blog) ... I have to admit to being intrigued by his thoughts regarding forces'. I never speak about it, for fear of being branded a bit wacky, but I had an experiance years ago while sitting in a little group with Mahesh in Swizterland that forever had me wondering about things like those described by this guy. I was sitting there at close range watching Mahesh go on about something when his head very clearly took on the look of a beast. It shocked me to say the least. I was sitting next to a friend of mine (who later became a prominent Doctor in So. Cal). I turned to him and whispered did you see that?. He looked shaken himself and said I sure did. Did he look like an animal there for a minute?. It was something I never forgot and when things like this come up now, I read with a bit more interest than some. Simple; what he saw was one of the numerous Rakshasas He destroyed on almost a daily basis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Soanything goes eh? It was exactly this kind of whatever my brain, my senses perceive from MMY, whether I'm seeing tantrums, the head of a beast, using people up, then discarding themregardless of what the brain that god gave me tells me is going on, I should ignore it and blindly trust the master it was this kind of thinking that made me pull the rip cord all those years ago. And the golden parachute promised you for all those years before suddenly turned into a golden shower from many of your so-called friends in the TMO, right? That must be divinity, too. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: Divinity takes every form like the Rig Veda takes the form of the horse headed sage, the wise are not disturbed by that --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: More Mahesh Dark Yogi accounts surface: (From TM-Free blog) ... I have to admit to being intrigued by his thoughts regarding forces'. I never speak about it, for fear of being branded a bit wacky, but I had an experiance years ago while sitting in a little group with Mahesh in Swizterland that forever had me wondering about things like those described by this guy. I was sitting there at close range watching Mahesh go on about something when his head very clearly took on the look of a beast. It shocked me to say the least. I was sitting next to a friend of mine (who later became a prominent Doctor in So. Cal). I turned to him and whispered did you see that?. He looked shaken himself and said I sure did. Did he look like an animal there for a minute?. It was something I never forgot and when things like this come up now, I read with a bit more interest than some. Simple; what he saw was one of the numerous Rakshasas He destroyed on almost a daily basis.
[FairfieldLife] Jupiter meets Your anus!
http://jupitermeetsuranus.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/jupiter-meets-uranus-a-few-thoughts-on-the-201011-encounter/ http://tinyurl.com/37olr3j AFA: What can we expect in general terms from the upcoming 2010/11 Jupiter-Uranus conjunctions in Aries and Pisces? AW: in essence, the unexpected! And this question needs a whole article, not a few brief paragraphs. The Jupiter-Uranus conjunction in Pisces-Aries-Pisces comes into orb (10 degrees) at the end of March 2010, and separates (10 degree orb) in mid-March 2011. Fasten your seat belts! The human community and probably the natural world are in for a bumpy ride.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The dispelling of darkness by The Goddess and Her Disciples, the Masters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 1:27 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] The dispelling of darkness by The Goddess and Her Disciples, the Masters --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: It was something I never forgot and when things like this come up now, I read with a bit more interest than some. Simple; what he saw was one of the numerous Rakshasas He destroyed on almost a daily basis. Maharishi would devour Rakshasas using intricate and dangerous procedures which would necessitate to draw them physically close. Mother Kali does this continually and eternally ofcourse but on a much grander scale. Some great Masters, Her Disciples, do the same thing for the benefit on mankind albeit on a much smaller scale. Only Masters of the highest order practise these ageold cleansing of the collective consciousness on behalf of mankind. There are very good reasons for this, reasons we could dwell on at a later point. Naturally, Maharishi, As one with the Goddess, was able to do this with the blessings and in the name of His Divinity Brahmananda Saraswati. Sometimes sensitive persons, physically close to His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would get a glimpse into this cosmic battle, a play of consciousness on behalf of God on earth, Her Lila, in Maharishis presence. A few got scared witnesseing this. The older souls were filled with Bliss. Consider it a Blessing. Is this a theory you made up or are you one of the older souls who were filled with Bliss as you experienced it directly? Please elaborate on the intricate and dangerous procedures. Give me one reason why I should waste time elaborating on this for the benefit of someone who trash Maharishi like you do.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The dispelling of darkness by The Goddess and Her Disciples, the Masters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 1:27 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] The dispelling of darkness by The Goddess and Her Disciples, the Masters --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: It was something I never forgot and when things like this come up now, I read with a bit more interest than some. Simple; what he saw was one of the numerous Rakshasas He destroyed on almost a daily basis. Maharishi would devour Rakshasas using intricate and dangerous procedures which would necessitate to draw them physically close. Mother Kali does this continually and eternally ofcourse but on a much grander scale. Some great Masters, Her Disciples, do the same thing for the benefit on mankind albeit on a much smaller scale. Only Masters of the highest order practise these ageold cleansing of the collective consciousness on behalf of mankind. There are very good reasons for this, reasons we could dwell on at a later point. Naturally, Maharishi, As one with the Goddess, was able to do this with the blessings and in the name of His Divinity Brahmananda Saraswati. Sometimes sensitive persons, physically close to His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would get a glimpse into this cosmic battle, a play of consciousness on behalf of God on earth, Her Lila, in Maharishis presence. A few got scared witnesseing this. The older souls were filled with Bliss. Consider it a Blessing. Is this a theory you made up or are you one of the older souls who were filled with Bliss as you experienced it directly? Please elaborate on the intricate and dangerous procedures. Give me one reason why I should waste time elaborating on this for the benefit of someone who trash Maharishi like you do. Or rather; try to trash as the venom never reach the target but curves back on the sender, in this case Rick Archer. Only a fool would become upset by your behaviour not knowing how these mechanics work. The rest witness the Lila.
[FairfieldLife] Re: One more step closer to Big Brother
This is all too Orwellian. You sound really angry and scared - maybe you should reconsider joining in a Tea Party protest. As an old conservative meditator by experience my conspiracy friends I watch. Yeah, i'd be concerned about the anger and fear some of my friends around here vex themselves with over their conspiracy theories. Spiritually it is just not good. You can just see how they let their subtle energy systems get snagged and bawled up. Sad really to watch them combust. They haven't something better to do than fret and split hairs over figment completely beyond their reality? Like they're missing what is infront of themselves should just repent and go sit more with God in meditation. The science is pretty clear on that. Jai Adi Shankara, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jupiter meets Your anus!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: http://jupitermeetsuranus.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/jupiter-meets-uranus-a-few-thoughts-on-the-201011-encounter/ http://tinyurl.com/37olr3j AFA: What can we expect in general terms from the upcoming 2010/11 Jupiter-Uranus conjunctions in Aries and Pisces? AW: in essence, the unexpected! And this question needs a whole article, not a few brief paragraphs. The Jupiter-Uranus conjunction in Pisces-Aries-Pisces comes into orb (10 degrees) at the end of March 2010, and separates (10 degree orb) in mid-March 2011. Fasten your seat belts! The human community and probably the natural world are in for a bumpy ride. Since Ju is conjuct with Ur every 12 years or so, what makes this one special? In the article he cites various events in the progress of cloning when he square of this or that occurs. Which given that there is a constant flow of events in human cloning, it may be a bit like saying, when Ju is conjunct Ur, there will be much passage of water at this particular spot. but given the spot is a river, and everyday water is flowing and there is much passage of water each day -- this claim seems not to be much substance. And what about 1000 years ago -- did every 12 years reveal a new breakthrough in human cloning? The River Fallacy is common in jyotish predictions. One of the well know jyotishis cited here earlier, makes somewhat similar claims that he has proven scientifically, totally scientifically and wonders perhaps why scientists are no banging on his door. The claims have different forms, but are akin to in predicting marriage for 100 recent college graduate over the next 8 years that he has a 86% success rate -- and thus its impeccably scientific. Given that a large number of college graduates marry before the age of 30, this claim is about as impressive as saying I shot and arrow and it hit the broadside of the barn -- I am SUCH a good shot. Or that I caught 100 fish when I shot a shotgun into a barrel of fish.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: John wrote: Yeah, I met these guys when I was living in Seattle up until 2004. It was in 1994 that I started learning jyotish. One of the students in our class was the wife of the governor of Washington state. Our teacher was Brendan Feeley who had since moved to the nation's capital. Brendan is an old friend too. Did you know Robert Koch who also lived in Seattle (now in Bend, OR)? Robert was the first person to do a jyotish chart for me. I had a sidereal chart done in the 1970s but not jyotish. Robert was an ISKON refugee. Robert Koch was my second teacher after Brendan left Seattle, WA. I saw both of them at the last seminar Sanjay Rath gave in Sunnyvale, CA. From what I've heard Sanjay's group broke apart due to money dispute. I tried to get some info from one of the organizers. But she would not talk about it. So you're saying that all these Jyotishi, who you are presenting as somewhat advanced, and yourself cool because you shared a little of their limelight by studying with them, couldn't see a little thing like money problems coming when they founded their organization? Sounds a lot like It's A Ride's sig line: The psychic fair has been canceled due to unforeseen circumstances. :-) Using your post as a starting point for my own little riff -- not challenging you - I wonder if there is value in predictions that are somewhere in between A) perfect, Cinemascope/ Technicolor , 3 D predictions of all events in perfect detail and timing and B) seeing the universe as totally random and having no clue as to what will happen next. Even if many, perhaps all, jyotishis are frauds or deluded, it does seem to be unproductive to use a standard of perfect knowledge upon which to judge them. Is a doctor a fraud because he says, you have a 70% chance of developing heart disease if you continue to smoke, eat deep fried foods and lots of saturated fats, and don't exercise. Is he a fraud because he did not predict the precise hour of the heart-attack? And is the 70% prediction useful? I tend to think it is. And for the above psychic fair type of example, could someone know an event is coming, but not have the ability to stop it? A weatherman is not a fraud for predicting a hurricane, but not being able to protect his own house from the storm. Another point of interest is that since jyotish is a map of the timing and type of returning karma, and having forewarning of the timing and type of the things coming down the chute, is a type of karma itself. What if we simply don't have that particular karma -- to be alerted ahead of the fact that some big dose of karma is coming soon? Or perhaps we hve the karma to be defrauded, so we are set up to get duped by charlatan jyotishees. In this case one would always have a bad experience with jyotish -- but that would not mean all of jyotish is bad.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: this is true. I have long known that Mahesh is one of the evil ones, who's very purpose was to hijack the world's promise of being benedicted with the Blessings of Guru Dev's great gift of TM; only to sabatoge the whole program. This was a deliberate plan on his part, from the very beginning. He won't be appearing in his Radiant Form to people - as occurs after the deaths of many Saints - since devils radiate the Dark Force, often appearing as animals. As was quoted (or spouted) earlier, Divinity takes every form like the Rig Veda takes the form of the horse headed sage, the wise are not disturbed by that. Therefore, should you be concerned if Maharishi starts appearing to you in an equine form? Neigh. Just pony up the cash like you did last time. Being saddle only ruin your day, not make it mare beautiful. :-) Treating people like a horses ass is a sure path to not seeing the divine in (people who are a ) horses' ass. And if one cannot appreciate the divine in the most obnoxious among us, then one will never appreciate the divine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: More Mahesh Dark Yogi accounts surface: (From TM-Free blog) ... I have to admit to being intrigued by his thoughts regarding forces'. I never speak about it, for fear of being branded a bit wacky, but I had an experiance years ago while sitting in a little group with Mahesh in Swizterland that forever had me wondering about things like those described by this guy. I was sitting there at close range watching Mahesh go on about something when his head very clearly took on the look of a beast. It shocked me to say the least. I was sitting next to a friend of mine (who later became a prominent Doctor in So. Cal). I turned to him and whispered did you see that?. He looked shaken himself and said I sure did. Did he look like an animal there for a minute?. It was something I never forgot and when things like this come up now, I read with a bit more interest than some. Simple; what he saw was one of the numerous Rakshasas He destroyed on almost a daily basis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: snip Treating people like a horses ass is a sure path to not seeing the divine in (people who are a ) horses' ass. Not necessarily. Actually, it depends on what the meaning of is is. Substitute behaves like for is, and the picture changes. Then the question becomes whether one believes the behavior is irremediable. And even if one does, there's a further question as to whether that behavior is in fact UNdivine. And yet another: if the behavior *is* remediable, *should* it be remedied? Is it imperative that the behavior change to reveal the inherent divinity underneath? Or even, does one see the behavior as horse's ass-ish *because* one sees the inherent divinity underneath? Lots of possibilities, not even necessarily mutually exclusive.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: this is true. I have long known that Mahesh is one of the evil ones, who's very purpose was to hijack the world's promise of being benedicted with the Blessings of Guru Dev's great gift of TM; only to sabatoge the whole program. This was a deliberate plan on his part, from the very beginning. He won't be appearing in his Radiant Form to people - as occurs after the deaths of many Saints - since devils radiate the Dark Force, often appearing as animals. As was quoted (or spouted) earlier, Divinity takes every form like the Rig Veda takes the form of the horse headed sage, the wise are not disturbed by that. Therefore, should you be concerned if Maharishi starts appearing to you in an equine form? Neigh. Just pony up the cash like you did last time. Being saddle only ruin your day, not make it mare beautiful. :-) Treating people like a horses ass is a sure path to not seeing the divine in (people who are a) horses' ass. And if one cannot appreciate the divine in the most obnoxious among us, then one will never appreciate the divine. Or, I might add, because of the projecting one's Dark Side thang, one will probably never appreciate oneself. While I agree most heartily with your sentiment, I am a little disappointed you didn't follow up with any more horse puns. I used to live next to a pair of horses, you know, when I lived in Canterbury. They were my neighbors. They were in a stable relationship. I wanted to appreciate the divine in them, but it was difficult because one of them brayed loudly and his voice was a bit hoarse. In my quest to appreciate them fully as the divine I thus fell at the first hurdle -- I didn't have the compassion. I'm felt instead that I was saddled with them. My own happiness was my mane priority. Hoof cared if the other horse appreciated the first one's braying? I didn't. But I didn't want to stirrup any karma, so I corralled my lower impulses and tried to keep them at bay. And I kept plugging away at it, keeping any foal thoughts from nagging at me, bucking the samskaric trends, and in the end I mustang admit that I saw them as being as divine as myself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
his head very clearly took on the look of a beast... Simple; what he saw was one of the numerous Rakshasas He destroyed on almost a daily basis. He won't be appearing in his Radiant Form to people - as occurs after the deaths of many Saints - since devils radiate the Dark Force, often appearing as animals... TurquoiseB Just pony up the cash like you did last time... So, how much cash did you pony up to the Mahesh Yogi and the Zen Master Rama? From what I've read, you probably spent over $10,000 learning how to perform Yogic Flying from Mahesh and various picnics with Rama in the desert. Back then, that was a lot of money - no wonder you're still working as a programmer. But, it's not how much money you earn, it's more important how much you've been able to save. I hope you've invested some of your funds in IBM stock. So, what exactly did you get for your money? According to your posts on Usenet, you didn't get very much benefit for all your striving. You've been in and out of cults for what, most of your adult life? There must have been some kind of benefit you received from Mahesh and Rama during your thirty years as a seeker.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
Vaj: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi? So, you're a TM-Free blog reader - I thought so. But, not all yogis in India have dark skin, Vaj. In fact, your guru, Hayagriva, had a horse's head and four arms, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayagriva And, apparently one of your teachers was a dwarf. So what? Subject: One of Four Humans, Not Counting a Dwarf Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.yoga, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy Date: April 10, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/2fxjjgy
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: snip Treating people like a horses ass is a sure path to not seeing the divine in (people who are a ) horses' ass. Not necessarily. Actually, it depends on what the meaning of is is. Substitute behaves like for is, and the picture changes. Then the question becomes whether one believes the behavior is irremediable. And even if one does, there's a further question as to whether that behavior is in fact UNdivine. And yet another: if the behavior *is* remediable, *should* it be remedied? Is it imperative that the behavior change to reveal the inherent divinity underneath? Or even, does one see the behavior as horse's ass-ish *because* one sees the inherent divinity underneath? Lots of possibilities, not even necessarily mutually exclusive. OK, I will race you. First one to the Divine wins!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: this is true. I have long known that Mahesh is one of the evil ones, who's very purpose was to hijack the world's promise of being benedicted with the Blessings of Guru Dev's great gift of TM; only to sabatoge the whole program. This was a deliberate plan on his part, from the very beginning. He won't be appearing in his Radiant Form to people - as occurs after the deaths of many Saints - since devils radiate the Dark Force, often appearing as animals. As was quoted (or spouted) earlier, Divinity takes every form like the Rig Veda takes the form of the horse headed sage, the wise are not disturbed by that. Therefore, should you be concerned if Maharishi starts appearing to you in an equine form? Neigh. Just pony up the cash like you did last time. Being saddle only ruin your day, not make it mare beautiful. :-) Treating people like a horses ass is a sure path to not seeing the divine in (people who are a) horses' ass. And if one cannot appreciate the divine in the most obnoxious among us, then one will never appreciate the divine. Or, I might add, because of the projecting one's Dark Side thang, one will probably never appreciate oneself. While I agree most heartily with your sentiment, I am a little disappointed you You are certainly not the first person who is disappointed in me. :) didn't follow up with any more horse puns. I used to live next to a pair of horses, you know, when I lived in Canterbury. They were my neighbors. They were in a stable relationship. I wanted to appreciate the divine in them, but it was difficult because one of them brayed loudly and his voice was a bit hoarse. In my quest to appreciate them fully as the divine I thus fell at the first hurdle -- I didn't have the compassion. I'm felt instead that I was saddled with them. My own happiness was my mane priority. Hoof cared if the other horse appreciated the first one's braying? I didn't. But I didn't want to stirrup any karma, so I corralled my lower impulses and tried to keep them at bay. And I kept plugging away at it, keeping any foal thoughts from nagging at me, bucking the samskaric trends, and in the end I mustang admit that I saw them as being as divine as myself. Well, the gal up stairs said Der bees up my ass, and I said oh horeshit! you old nag. She said let go roll in the hay, and I said, Hi Ho Silver! I see the lord in your massive ass. she said. Stop horsing around, mount me you stallion! We bucked and bucked and bucked, when she finally lassoed my kudalini and it seared my soul like a deep brand in my side. Welcome to the OK coral.
[FairfieldLife] Jesus doesn't want a cap-and-trade system.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/14/AR2010051402450.html GOP's Utah and Maine conventions show a party coming unglued By Dana Milbank Sunday, May 16, 2010 Future historians tracing the crackup of the Republican Party may well look to May 8, 2010, as an inflection point. That was the day, as is now well known, that Sen. Robert Bennett, who took the conservative position 84 percent of the time over his career, was deemed not conservative enough by fellow Utah Republicans and booted out of the primary. snip Social and ecological justice and all of this bullcrap, Beck told his viewers, is man's work for a global government. Beck -- who is second in popularity only to Sarah Palin among the type of Tea Party activists who hijacked the Maine GOP -- tossed out phrases such as global standards and global bank tax -- all part of a conspiracy by the global government people. He further provided the news that Jesus doesn't want a cap-and-trade system. snip On Tuesday, USA Today had the headline Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950 (the nonpartisan Tax Foundation put it at 1959); Beck skipped that, instead saying he doesn't want changes to the Internet at least until people aren't worshipping Satan, you know, in office. (Beck maintained later that he really wasn't saying that Obama was a Satan worshipper.) snip In the Alabama gubernatorial race, a conservative attack ad charged that a Republican gubernatorial candidate recently said the Bible is only partially true. The outraged candidate reaffirmed his belief that this world and everything in it is a masterpiece created by the hands of God. In Utah, just a couple of days after Bennett's fall, conservative Rep. Jason Chaffetz talked about trying to topple none other than Sen. Orrin Hatch (89 percent lifetime conservative rating) in 2012. In Arizona, Sen. John McCain, who once said a fence is the least effective way to secure the border, continued his fight against a conservative primary challenge by releasing an ad demanding, Complete the danged fence.
[FairfieldLife] Re: One more step closer to Big Brother
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: As an old conservative meditator by experience my conspiracy friends I watch. Yeah, i'd be concerned about the anger and fear some of my friends around here vex themselves with over their conspiracy theories. Doug, maybe one day you will provide an actual example of the many statements you make along these lines, but I am not betting that today will be the day Spiritually it is just not good. You can just see how they let their subtle energy systems get snagged and bawled up. Sad really to watch them combust. They haven't something better to do than fret and split hairs over figment completely beyond their reality? Like they're missing what is infront of themselves should just repent and go sit more with God in meditation. The science is pretty clear on that. Jai Adi Shankara, -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
If this is a theory of actuality, the dark yogi, would that mean the beatles were the messiahs and the innocents to be the carriers of this? What would this say about dark horse? Or what about the fact Paul M, and Ringo are all of a sudden recently helping to promote an enlightenment machine? The peace and love, people, saving baby seals and small children and the wealth management consultants? Could it be in a generation or two, these 4 minstrels could become what some have claimed the gandarvans who brought the message of enlightenment as some have said were written in ancient sanskrit text? Could it become the new catholic type church? Kind of like Moses and the 4 Heysus? LOL. Just wondering. : ) From: yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 15 May, 2010 9:08:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi? this is true. I have long known that Mahesh is one of the evil ones, who's very purpose was to hijack the world's promise of being benedicted with the Blessings of Guru Dev's great gift of TM; only to sabatoge the whole program. This was a deliberate plan on his part, from the very beginning. He won't be appearing in his Radiant Form to people - as occurs after the deaths of many Saints - since devils radiate the Dark Force, often appearing as animals. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: More Mahesh Dark Yogi accounts surface: (From TM-Free blog) ... I have to admit to being intrigued by his thoughts regarding forces'. I never speak about it, for fear of being branded a bit wacky, but I had an experiance years ago while sitting in a little group with Mahesh in Swizterland that forever had me wondering about things like those described by this guy. I was sitting there at close range watching Mahesh go on about something when his head very clearly took on the look of a beast. It shocked me to say the least. I was sitting next to a friend of mine (who later became a prominent Doctor in So. Cal). I turned to him and whispered did you see that?. He looked shaken himself and said I sure did. Did he look like an animal there for a minute?. It was something I never forgot and when things like this come up now, I read with a bit more interest than some. Simple; what he saw was one of the numerous Rakshasas He destroyed on almost a daily basis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
From what I've heard Sanjay's group broke apart due to money dispute. I tried to get some info from one of the organizers... TurquoiseB: So you're saying that all these Jyotishi, who you are presenting as somewhat advanced, and yourself cool because you shared a little of their limelight by studying with them, So, you've never studied with a teacher who was a Jyotishi = that's obvious. couldn't see a little thing like money problems coming when they founded their organization? Maybe they all saw money problems ahead, but they didn't want to do anything about it. Sounds a lot like It's A Ride's sig line: The psychic fair has been canceled due to unforeseen circumstances. :-) Only if you think Jyotish is only concerned with predicting the future. According to James Braha, Jyotish is really about discerning the past. If so, then you're something of a Jyotishi yourself, being able to remember several of your own 'past lives'.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
Mike Dixon: ...it sure makes more since than the Replacement theology taught for so long, which would make God a liar in his own words. As for what anybody chooses to believe, that's their business, not mine. do.rflex: 'My' understanding from the Christian fundamentalists is generally that anyone who doesn't accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, is headed for the...'Lake of Fire' described in the Book of Revelation. Replacement theology teaches that the Church has replaced Israel. But, the majority of Evangelical Christians do not ascribe to 'replacement theology'. In Romans 9, Chapter 11, Paul writes that God has not cast away Israel.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Walking On Water: It's not just for Jesus any more!
Hahaha From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 13 May, 2010 1:55:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Walking On Water: It's not just for Jesus any more! OK, here is what Edg has been waiting for...real video footage of real siddhis being performed. Kinda. There is no question about it. These guys (South African, I would guess, based on their names and accents) really are walking on water. Running, actually. Pretty neat. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ry2aG9QES0
Re: [FairfieldLife] Akshaya Tritiya, Day of Lasting Achievements - Sunday, 16th May 2010
How is it akshaya tritiya is calculated when the moon and the sun are not exalted today? Or...does that not matter for the calculation? From: merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de Sent: Thu, 13 May, 2010 12:58:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Akshaya Tritiya, Day of Lasting Achievements - Sunday, 16th May 2010 Akshaya Tritiya, The Day of Lasting Achievements – 16 May 2010 Global broadcast on the Maharishi Channel starting at 12.45 pm, Holland time Sunday, 16 May, is the Day of Akshaya Tritiya, the Day of Lasting Achievements, which Maharishi said is one of the most important days in the Vedic Calendar. According to the Vedic texts, this was the day when the ancient Rishis (sages) performed the first Yagya. This event also marked the beginning of a time when people lived happily in tune with Natural Law. The special quality of this day is expressed in the word ‘Akshaya’ which means ‘undecaying’ or ‘everlasting’. The performance of the Maharishi Vedic Pandits on this special day awakens these beautiful qualities in individual consciousness and world consciousness. There will be a special global broadcast on Maharishi Channel 3 starting at 12.45 pm Holland time (CET) with Rashtriya Gita, followed by global Puja to Guru Dev and Maharishi Yagya performed by the Maharishi Vedic Pandits at the Brahmasthan of India, joined by the Maharishi Vedic Pandits in the Brahmasthan of Maharishi’s House in MERU, Holland . All Maharishi Invincibility Centres world wide are welcome to join in. Connect to the broadcast on Maharishi Channel 3: http://www.maharish ichannel. in Continuing the tradition that Maharishi started it will be very good on this day to raise the Flag of Invincibility, the Flag of the Global Country of World Peace, in every country. This can be done at solar noon in each time zone. It will also be good to take a photo with the Flag flying, showing the group that is present and the environment. Please send your photos to Dr Peter Swan, Minister of Communication, at: communication@ maharishi. net With all best wishes for a glorious celebration, Jai Guru Dev ICO
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
On May 16, 2010, at 11:06 AM, ditzyklanmail wrote: If this is a theory of actuality, the dark yogi, would that mean the beatles were the messiahs and the innocents to be the carriers of this? No, it just would mean they were duped. It may also mean that they get their info on Mahesh and the movement mostly from the movement, rather than from outside reality-checking. Purity of the trad. and all that rot. What would this say about dark horse? Or what about the fact Paul M, and Ringo are all of a sudden recently helping to promote an enlightenment machine? They're both burnt out recovering and/or active addicts. McCartney's had a long-known marijuana addiction (remember him doing TM in Japanese prison after getting caught with a rather large quantity?) and his recent one-legged wife mentioned he was often drunk and occasionally would throw up on himself. So maybe it's a combination of romanticizing your own past with rose-colored bong and booze flavored glasses and being desperate to look chic for promotion of their latest product? They actually thought associating with TM would have made them look chic! Go figure. The peace and love, people, saving baby seals and small children and the wealth management consultants? Could it be in a generation or two, these 4 minstrels could become what some have claimed the gandarvans who brought the message of enlightenment as some have said were written in ancient sanskrit text? Could it become the new catholic type church? Not with the head avatar having died. Unless you meant the church of Paul McCartney and Wings?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One more step closer to Big Brother
Buck wrote: This is all too Orwellian. You sound really angry and scared - maybe you should reconsider joining in a Tea Party protest. As an old conservative meditator by experience my conspiracy friends I watch. Yeah, i'd be concerned about the anger and fear some of my friends around here vex themselves with over their conspiracy theories. Spiritually it is just not good. You can just see how they let their subtle energy systems get snagged and bawled up. Sad really to watch them combust. They haven't something better to do than fret and split hairs over figment completely beyond their reality? Like they're missing what is infront of themselves should just repent and go sit more with God in meditation. The science is pretty clear on that. Jai Adi Shankara, -Buck There is a difference between being scared and being angry and especially outraged. 50 years ago if the government had done this the public would have screamed this is communism! That is because we were told such citizen spy programs were what the communist countries do. Now if I had said that this program was communist Willy would have be hard put to use his usual retort as, God forbid, he would have sounded like a communist sympathizer. We know that many prisoners in Gitmo were just innocent folks that people in Afghanistan turned in for the cash the US military was offering. Do you want that here? Authoritarian governments rise on the backs of their apathetic citizens. So there is nothing wrong with waking up the public. This time the article did not first appear on the so called conspiracy sites but on the MSM. And in the comment sections of those news outlets people were overwhelmingly opposed to such a program. Perhaps your friends just think you're an apathetic boob. Or maybe you are REALLY a communist. After all you wanted to take over FFL and control speech. We took it as a joke but maybe you were serious. I guess that would say you're a communist but since Nabby reminds all the time us that communism is dead you must be a zombie. :-D Programs like these are security theater made to look like your government is doing something. Instead it may cause massive unemployment for parking attendants as people will not be wanting to hand over their keys to them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: One more step closer to Big Brother
Bashing communism? Silly. Communism didn't invent Big Brother tactics -- elitist marauders will fly any flag to get control. Don't blame an ism when the word dictatorial will do. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Buck wrote: This is all too Orwellian. You sound really angry and scared - maybe you should reconsider joining in a Tea Party protest. As an old conservative meditator by experience my conspiracy friends I watch. Yeah, i'd be concerned about the anger and fear some of my friends around here vex themselves with over their conspiracy theories. Spiritually it is just not good. You can just see how they let their subtle energy systems get snagged and bawled up. Sad really to watch them combust. They haven't something better to do than fret and split hairs over figment completely beyond their reality? Like they're missing what is infront of themselves should just repent and go sit more with God in meditation. The science is pretty clear on that. Jai Adi Shankara, -Buck There is a difference between being scared and being angry and especially outraged. 50 years ago if the government had done this the public would have screamed this is communism! That is because we were told such citizen spy programs were what the communist countries do. Now if I had said that this program was communist Willy would have be hard put to use his usual retort as, God forbid, he would have sounded like a communist sympathizer. We know that many prisoners in Gitmo were just innocent folks that people in Afghanistan turned in for the cash the US military was offering. Do you want that here? Authoritarian governments rise on the backs of their apathetic citizens. So there is nothing wrong with waking up the public. This time the article did not first appear on the so called conspiracy sites but on the MSM. And in the comment sections of those news outlets people were overwhelmingly opposed to such a program. Perhaps your friends just think you're an apathetic boob. Or maybe you are REALLY a communist. After all you wanted to take over FFL and control speech. We took it as a joke but maybe you were serious. I guess that would say you're a communist but since Nabby reminds all the time us that communism is dead you must be a zombie. :-D Programs like these are security theater made to look like your government is doing something. Instead it may cause massive unemployment for parking attendants as people will not be wanting to hand over their keys to them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh tell me great one of Jyotish!
I am really enjoying everyone's comments on this subject thread. Thank you to everyone. No one is wrong with opinions. : ) I would hope the subject of Jyotish would only give a weather report. Tendencies can be vague but for the subject of exchange of money for the informational opinion, one could string along a buyer a lot longer than giving actual predictions. The long life predictions by many Jyotishi's told to only give good/positive information ends up looking like false readings to some, and many scramble away to look for another who is more qualified or who will tell a story from the reading that fits the buyer's ego to satisfaction of Jyotish prediction product. It is very entertaining to take spare money to throw at such a science of age. I see nothing wrong with it, to venture into the world of possibilities that may be created by the action of going to a jyotishi and then to start basing one's life on a reading, could appear to make the prediction possble or real. How long someone will live, by more than one Jyotishi prediction, telling one they will live a long life into their late 80's or 90's and they die in their 50's really throws a wrench in the bike wheel of believing in the science. I am very interested in the subject in my spare time and have given the ephemeris a looking into regularly to see if tendancies and sort of bio-rhythms of life match to any consistency. It is hard to learn of the subject when so many so called experts give opposing views of a prediction which can appear to discredit the science and only line pockets with green stuff. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 13 May, 2010 11:36:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh tell me great one of Jyotish! obbajeeba wrote: Curious to know what people think here about Jyotish and the art of telling of this subject. No one has to explain the subject that the sun is up there, and the moon too and the other planets hovering about, being on the inner and outer of life as the same, or the placements, etc. Please do give any opinion or knowing of experiences with Jyotishi's. Good or bad. What about the delivery of the subject in these modern times? Experiences from skeptics, knowers are appreciated on this subject. Please tell, oh great one!..? Of course one has to put aside the naysayer ramblings from the peanut gallerly or is it the drunks at the end of the bar who wouldn't know an ayanamsha from a buffalo wing nor a vimshottari dasha from Donner and Blitzen. I have studied these things and they have not (to borrow from Sir Isaac Newton). ;-) And having studied jyotish there is much truth to it. I have always found, given correct birth data, that people tend to follow the careers outlined in their chart or at least wonder if what they would be better of following that inclination to do so when they are banging their head against the wall in their current career. And how often when I hear someone ask about why their life is going so bad right now I can almost guess that the lunar nodes, not planets at all, are up to some mischief transiting some critical point in their chart. Jyotish can be quite uncanny in these. I look upon it as a weather report which might tell you it may rain today and often it does. That's far better than a WAG (wild ass guess). We know the sun and moon have definite effects on our environment and our personal lives. No mistake there. Indians use a panchang to delineate those effects. But how do planets millions of miles away have any effect what soever when their gravitation effect would be very negligible? Some say it isn't gravity but the effect of their light (again pretty minimal) or the more spiritual belief in the cosmic transcendental relationship between all things as if we and the entirety of creation are one big moving mass. We might want to look at the idea that ancients not having computers and precise devices definitely tracked things by counting moons and then probably noted recurring cycles with the position of the planets they noted in the sky. When Jupiter occupied a certain constellation in the sky they could count on certain things related to that cycle occurring. Jupiter completes its orbit about every 12 years. We know there are 12 year cycles in various fields including finance. Of course if you are an astronomer you're going to know that Jupiter will not exactly correspond to a 12 year orbit. But still the loose approximation was good enough and far better than a WAG. There's the rub. We have some astrologers, mainly westerner who have learned jyotish, that seem to believe it is so concrete that one moment you are in Venus dasha or subperiod and when the next you are in Sun dasha everything will instantly change. Not a chance. It *is* after all a science of light and the dashas crossfade
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 11:06 AM, ditzyklanmail wrote: If this is a theory of actuality, the dark yogi, would that mean the beatles were the messiahs and the innocents to be the carriers of this? No, it just would mean they were duped. It may also mean that they get their info on Mahesh and the movement mostly from the movement, rather than from outside reality-checking. Purity of the trad. and all that rot. What would this say about dark horse? Or what about the fact Paul M, and Ringo are all of a sudden recently helping to promote an enlightenment machine? They're both burnt out recovering and/or active addicts. McCartney's had a long-known marijuana addiction Ah, yes, Marijuana has been shown by so many studies and so much personal experience around the world to be terribly addicting. I mean, like one puff and you are in its clutches forever. And it makes you so sex-crazed you rape women dogs and horses. It is the filthy habit of those little brown people. Reefer Madness Foreever! (remember him doing TM in Japanese prison after getting caught with a rather large quantity?) and his recent one-legged wife mentioned he was often drunk and occasionally would throw up on himself. So maybe it's a combination of romanticizing your own past with rose-colored bong and booze flavored glasses and being desperate to look chic for promotion of their latest product? They actually thought associating with TM would have made them look chic! Go figure. The peace and love, people, saving baby seals and small children and the wealth management consultants? Could it be in a generation or two, these 4 minstrels could become what some have claimed the gandarvans who brought the message of enlightenment as some have said were written in ancient sanskrit text? Could it become the new catholic type church? Not with the head avatar having died. Unless you meant the church of Paul McCartney and Wings?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
On May 16, 2010, at 12:39 PM, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 11:06 AM, ditzyklanmail wrote: If this is a theory of actuality, the dark yogi, would that mean the beatles were the messiahs and the innocents to be the carriers of this? No, it just would mean they were duped. It may also mean that they get their info on Mahesh and the movement mostly from the movement, rather than from outside reality-checking. Purity of the trad. and all that rot. What would this say about dark horse? Or what about the fact Paul M, and Ringo are all of a sudden recently helping to promote an enlightenment machine? They're both burnt out recovering and/or active addicts. McCartney's had a long-known marijuana addiction Ah, yes, Marijuana has been shown by so many studies and so much personal experience around the world to be terribly addicting. I mean, like one puff and you are in its clutches forever. And it makes you so sex-crazed you rape women dogs and horses. It is the filthy habit of those little brown people. Reefer Madness Foreever! Apparently it makes Sir Paul forget to take a half a pound of weed out of his frickin' suitcase before disembarking to Japan. Doh! But, yeah, I could see how the alternation of the deep rest of TM with the stoned-consciousness of real good weed would create such skill in action -- and perhaps such drool-work as his Liverpool Oratorio...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 12:39 PM, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 11:06 AM, ditzyklanmail wrote: If this is a theory of actuality, the dark yogi, would that mean the beatles were the messiahs and the innocents to be the carriers of this? No, it just would mean they were duped. It may also mean that they get their info on Mahesh and the movement mostly from the movement, rather than from outside reality-checking. Purity of the trad. and all that rot. What would this say about dark horse? Or what about the fact Paul M, and Ringo are all of a sudden recently helping to promote an enlightenment machine? They're both burnt out recovering and/or active addicts. McCartney's had a long-known marijuana addiction Ah, yes, Marijuana has been shown by so many studies and so much personal experience around the world to be terribly addicting. I mean, like one puff and you are in its clutches forever. And it makes you so sex-crazed you rape women dogs and horses. It is the filthy habit of those little brown people. Reefer Madness Foreever! Apparently it makes Sir Paul forget to take a half a pound of weed out of his frickin' suitcase before disembarking to Japan. Doh! But, yeah, I could see how the alternation of the deep rest of TM with the stoned-consciousness of real good weed would create such skill in action Transcend, activity, transcend, activity ... sounds like he was totally on the program. His tie-dye now never fades. The time honored tradtion of sadhus everywhere.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
On May 16, 2010, at 1:43 PM, tartbrain wrote: But, yeah, I could see how the alternation of the deep rest of TM with the stoned-consciousness of real good weed would create such skill in action Transcend, activity, transcend, activity ... sounds like he was totally on the program. His tie-dye now never fades. The time honored tradtion of sadhus everywhere. Yes, yes! And the vomiting on himself from over-boozing is just a secret sign for the integration of inner and outer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 1:43 PM, tartbrain wrote: But, yeah, I could see how the alternation of the deep rest of TM with the stoned-consciousness of real good weed would create such skill in action Transcend, activity, transcend, activity ... sounds like he was totally on the program. His tie-dye now never fades. The time honored tradtion of sadhus everywhere. Yes, yes! And the vomiting on himself from over-boozing is just a secret sign for the integration of inner and outer. Well, until you embrace and own your inner vomit, until you see the full effulgence and infinite love of the Divine in vomit -- well then one is truly a spiritual slacker. The Agorhis have it right -- see the divine and the unity of all things -- including the cremations ashes and skulls of the graveyard. Don't settle for the superficial gloss and veneer of the gross relative. All you need is Love ... Paul seems to have gotten it right. May your tie-dye loincloth never fade.
[FairfieldLife] Lord Jesus Christ Run Down In Crosswalk
'Lord Jesus Christ' Run Down In Crosswalk by The Associated Press May 7, 2010 The victim might have forgiven the woman who ran him down in a Massachusetts crosswalk, but police haven't. Police say a Pittsfield woman has been cited for running down a man named Lord Jesus Christ as he crossed a street in Northampton on Tuesday. The 50-year-old man is from Belchertown. Officers checked his ID and discovered that, indeed, his legal name is Lord Jesus Christ. He was taken to the hospital for treatment of minor facial injuries. Police say 20-year-old Brittany Cantarella was cited for failing to yield to a pedestrian in a crosswalk. (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126606650)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lord Jesus Christ Run Down In Crosswalk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eustace10679 no_re...@... wrote: 'Lord Jesus Christ' Run Down In Crosswalk Dude's got shitty luck. First the cross, now a crosswalk. by The Associated Press May 7, 2010 The victim might have forgiven the woman who ran him down in a Massachusetts crosswalk, but police haven't. Police say a Pittsfield woman has been cited for running down a man named Lord Jesus Christ as he crossed a street in Northampton on Tuesday. The 50-year-old man is from Belchertown. Officers checked his ID and discovered that, indeed, his legal name is Lord Jesus Christ. He was taken to the hospital for treatment of minor facial injuries. Police say 20-year-old Brittany Cantarella was cited for failing to yield to a pedestrian in a crosswalk. (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126606650)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lord Jesus Christ Run Down In Crosswalk
Funny. Last week i legally changed my name to Brahman The Totality Of The Universe. Though my friends simply call me BTTOTU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eustace10679 no_re...@... wrote: 'Lord Jesus Christ' Run Down In Crosswalk by The Associated Press May 7, 2010 The victim might have forgiven the woman who ran him down in a Massachusetts crosswalk, but police haven't. Police say a Pittsfield woman has been cited for running down a man named Lord Jesus Christ as he crossed a street in Northampton on Tuesday. The 50-year-old man is from Belchertown. Officers checked his ID and discovered that, indeed, his legal name is Lord Jesus Christ. He was taken to the hospital for treatment of minor facial injuries. Police say 20-year-old Brittany Cantarella was cited for failing to yield to a pedestrian in a crosswalk. (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126606650)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
On May 16, 2010, at 2:16 PM, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 1:43 PM, tartbrain wrote: But, yeah, I could see how the alternation of the deep rest of TM with the stoned-consciousness of real good weed would create such skill in action Transcend, activity, transcend, activity ... sounds like he was totally on the program. His tie-dye now never fades. The time honored tradtion of sadhus everywhere. Yes, yes! And the vomiting on himself from over-boozing is just a secret sign for the integration of inner and outer. Well, until you embrace and own your inner vomit, until you see the full effulgence and infinite love of the Divine in vomit -- well then one is truly a spiritual slacker. But I'm already automatically embracing my own inner vomitus by it's very nature. It's when it leaves my body that I'm like a yogi meditating on the corpse of my own inner Ganges gone awry. It's the outer vomit that Sir Paul expresses that is so difficult to integrate! Kudos to Paul Yogi, student of the Dark Sadie.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 2:16 PM, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 1:43 PM, tartbrain wrote: But, yeah, I could see how the alternation of the deep rest of TM with the stoned-consciousness of real good weed would create such skill in action Transcend, activity, transcend, activity ... sounds like he was totally on the program. His tie-dye now never fades. The time honored tradtion of sadhus everywhere. Yes, yes! And the vomiting on himself from over-boozing is just a secret sign for the integration of inner and outer. Well, until you embrace and own your inner vomit, until you see the full effulgence and infinite love of the Divine in vomit -- well then one is truly a spiritual slacker. But I'm already automatically embracing my own inner vomitus by it's very nature. It's when it leaves my body that I'm like a yogi meditating on the corpse of my own inner Ganges gone awry. It's the outer vomit that Sir Paul expresses that is so difficult to integrate! Kudos to Paul Yogi, student of the Dark Sadie. There are many divine adepts on this list. While those with only a crude, gross, superficial view -- they will see various posters vomiting all over each other -- repeatedly - at times some projectile vomiting is involved. But the deeper reality is that they are spewing out divine love on each other, as Brahman is the vomit, Brahman is the act of vomiting, Brahman is the giver and recipient of the vomit. These divine adept posters are so vastly generous, they spew their effulgent divine drenched vomit on others selflessly, full of love -- with no hesitation or constraint. They ae truly saints. Walking Buddhas.
[FairfieldLife] Hands off Deregulated Free Market
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 11:06 AM, ditzyklanmail wrote: If this is a theory of actuality, the dark yogi, would that mean the beatles were the messiahs and the innocents to be the carriers of this? No, it just would mean they were duped. It may also mean that they get their info on Mahesh and the movement mostly from the movement, rather than from outside reality-checking. What Vaj thinks of as outside reality-checking: I was sitting there at close range watching Mahesh go on about something when his head very clearly took on the look of a beast. It shocked me to say the least. I was sitting next to a friend of mine (who later became a prominent Doctor in So. Cal). I turned to him and whispered 'did you see that?'. He looked shaken himself and said 'I sure did. Did he look like an animal there for a minute?'.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip McCartney's had a long-known marijuana addiction Ah, yes, Marijuana has been shown by so many studies and so much personal experience around the world to be terribly addicting. I mean, like one puff and you are in its clutches forever. And it makes you so sex-crazed you rape women dogs and horses. It is the filthy habit of those little brown people. Reefer Madness Foreever! LOL. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
On May 16, 2010, at 3:14 PM, tartbrain wrote: But the deeper reality is that they are spewing out divine love on each other, as Brahman is the vomit, Brahman is the act of vomiting, Brahman is the giver and recipient of the vomit. Verily there is Brahman in the vomiting, the vomitus and (most importantly) the vomiter. For legal reasons I should point out that in Maharishi Ayurveda and in all it's previously incarnated Maharishi Ayurvedic therapies that I'm aware of, vaman, or vomiting, is eschewed. Thou shalt not vomit in a PK MA haunt. Broken capillaries and all that...
[FairfieldLife] The Zen Of Hard Work
So tomorrow is the final release candidate build for the product I've been working on. And it's been a bit of a nightmare release, in which the developers basically reinvented the entire infrastructure and philosophy of the product. Because hubris runs high (and somewhat deservedly) among this particular set of developers, they always overestimate what they can squeeze into the release and underestimate how long it will take them to do so. This means that Documentation bites the big one. I won't go into the particulars, but suffice it to say that I've worked 191 hours over the last two weeks. Not hardly yer average French 35-hour workweek. But I finished. Praise the Lord and pass the Lagavulin. I have never missed a software deadline. Not once, in almost 30 years in the business. I just do DO missing deadlines, or causing them to slip. Writing documentation is a service profession, like waiting tables or fixing other people's cars. Only trouble is, writing doc has been likened to Trying to fix a tire on a moving car. The software keeps changing, as you're trying to write the definitive guide to what it is, what it looks like, and how to use it. It would drive a lesser man crazy. No comments here, please. :-) And the funny thing is, it was a heckuva ride, and a heckuva lot of fun. I really GET OFF on doing a good job. Whatever you may think of him or say of him, I owe a lot of this 'tude about work to Rama, Dr. Frederick Lenz. Dude taught me that hard work was the next best thing to samadhi. And that if you do your work well enough, it can actually lead to samadhi. Your work becomes, in essence, your Way. Some people make a distinction between their work lives and their spiritual lives. They have what they call Day Jobs. I have a Way Job.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Zen Of Hard Work
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: So tomorrow is the final release candidate build for the product I've been working on. And it's been a bit of a nightmare release, in which the developers basically reinvented the entire infrastructure and philosophy of the product. Because hubris runs high (and somewhat deservedly) among this particular set of developers, they always overestimate what they can squeeze into the release and underestimate how long it will take them to do so. This means that Documentation bites the big one. I won't go into the particulars, but suffice it to say that I've worked 191 hours over the last two weeks. Not hardly yer average French 35-hour workweek. But I finished. Praise the Lord and pass the Lagavulin. I have never missed a software deadline. Not once, in almost 30 years in the business. I just do DO missing deadlines, or causing them to slip. Writing documentation is a service profession, like waiting tables or fixing other people's cars. Only trouble is, writing doc has been likened to Trying to fix a tire on a moving car. The software keeps changing, as you're trying to write the definitive guide to what it is, what it looks like, and how to use it. It would drive a lesser man crazy. No comments here, please. :-) And the funny thing is, it was a heckuva ride, and a heckuva lot of fun. I really GET OFF on doing a good job. Whatever you may think of him or say of him, I owe a lot of this 'tude about work to Rama, Dr. Frederick Lenz. Dude taught me that hard work was the next best thing to samadhi. And that if you do your work well enough, it can actually lead to samadhi. Your work becomes, in essence, your Way. Peter North did a lot of long, hard work also. Some people make a distinction between their work lives and their spiritual lives. They have what they call Day Jobs. I have a Way Job.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lord Jesus Christ Run Down In Crosswalk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: Funny. Last week i legally changed my name to Brahman The Totality Of The Universe. Though my friends simply call me BTTOTU Hjälp! Jag vill veta, hur man ska' uttala det! :0 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eustace10679 no_reply@ wrote: 'Lord Jesus Christ' Run Down In Crosswalk by The Associated Press May 7, 2010 The victim might have forgiven the woman who ran him down in a Massachusetts crosswalk, but police haven't. Police say a Pittsfield woman has been cited for running down a man named Lord Jesus Christ as he crossed a street in Northampton on Tuesday. The 50-year-old man is from Belchertown. Officers checked his ID and discovered that, indeed, his legal name is Lord Jesus Christ. He was taken to the hospital for treatment of minor facial injuries. Police say 20-year-old Brittany Cantarella was cited for failing to yield to a pedestrian in a crosswalk. (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126606650)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Zen Of Hard Work
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip And the funny thing is, it was a heckuva ride, and a heckuva lot of fun. I really GET OFF on doing a good job. Whatever you may think of him or say of him, I owe a lot of this 'tude about work to Rama, Dr. Frederick Lenz. Dude taught me that hard work was the next best thing to samadhi. And that if you do your work well enough, it can actually lead to samadhi. Your work becomes, in essence, your Way. Peter North did a lot of long, hard work also. Ah, but did he get his software documentation in on time?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 3:14 PM, tartbrain wrote: But the deeper reality is that they are spewing out divine love on each other, as Brahman is the vomit, Brahman is the act of vomiting, Brahman is the giver and recipient of the vomit. Verily there is Brahman in the vomiting, the vomitus and (most importantly) the vomiter. For legal reasons I should point out that in Maharishi Ayurveda and in all it's previously incarnated Maharishi Ayurvedic therapies that I'm aware of, vaman, or vomiting, is eschewed. Thou shalt not vomit in a PK MA haunt. The Finnicized form of the name 'George' is - lo and behold - 'Yrjö'. (Even the Swedish pronunciation of their Georg, namely -- approximately -- 'yeh-orry' [sic!] doesn't seem to explain that...). Oddly enough, as a verb, '[to] yrjö' [uerr-yoe] is used to mean 'to vomit', or 'speak Norwegian to a porcelain duck'! :0 Broken capillaries and all that...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
On May 16, 2010, at 5:58 PM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 3:14 PM, tartbrain wrote: But the deeper reality is that they are spewing out divine love on each other, as Brahman is the vomit, Brahman is the act of vomiting, Brahman is the giver and recipient of the vomit. Verily there is Brahman in the vomiting, the vomitus and (most importantly) the vomiter. For legal reasons I should point out that in Maharishi Ayurveda and in all it's previously incarnated Maharishi Ayurvedic therapies that I'm aware of, vaman, or vomiting, is eschewed. Thou shalt not vomit in a PK MA haunt. The Finnicized form of the name 'George' is - lo and behold - 'Yrjö'. (Even the Swedish pronunciation of their Georg, namely -- approximately -- 'yeh-orry' [sic!] doesn't seem to explain that...). Oddly enough, as a verb, '[to] yrjö' [uerr-yoe] is used to mean 'to vomit', or 'speak Norwegian to a porcelain duck'! :0 Whew! Not even close in Germanic-Anglish languages. Those crazy Finns--try to get some more sunlight, would 'ya?
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Zen Of Hard Work
TurquoiseB wrote: So tomorrow is the final release candidate build for the product I've been working on. And it's been a bit of a nightmare release, in which the developers basically reinvented the entire infrastructure and philosophy of the product. Because hubris runs high (and somewhat deservedly) among this particular set of developers, they always overestimate what they can squeeze into the release and underestimate how long it will take them to do so. This means that Documentation bites the big one. I won't go into the particulars, but suffice it to say that I've worked 191 hours over the last two weeks. Not hardly yer average French 35-hour workweek. But I finished. Praise the Lord and pass the Lagavulin. I have never missed a software deadline. Not once, in almost 30 years in the business. I just do DO missing deadlines, or causing them to slip. Writing documentation is a service profession, like waiting tables or fixing other people's cars. Only trouble is, writing doc has been likened to Trying to fix a tire on a moving car. The software keeps changing, as you're trying to write the definitive guide to what it is, what it looks like, and how to use it. It would drive a lesser man crazy. No comments here, please. :-) And the funny thing is, it was a heckuva ride, and a heckuva lot of fun. I really GET OFF on doing a good job. Whatever you may think of him or say of him, I owe a lot of this 'tude about work to Rama, Dr. Frederick Lenz. Dude taught me that hard work was the next best thing to samadhi. And that if you do your work well enough, it can actually lead to samadhi. Your work becomes, in essence, your Way. Some people make a distinction between their work lives and their spiritual lives. They have what they call Day Jobs. I have a Way Job. We used to emphasis work smart, not hard where I worked. One can work hard doing a dumb thing. :-D
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
So someone could literally 'Yrjö to death? From: cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 16 May, 2010 4:58:07 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 3:14 PM, tartbrain wrote: But the deeper reality is that they are spewing out divine love on each other, as Brahman is the vomit, Brahman is the act of vomiting, Brahman is the giver and recipient of the vomit. Verily there is Brahman in the vomiting, the vomitus and (most importantly) the vomiter. For legal reasons I should point out that in Maharishi Ayurveda and in all it's previously incarnated Maharishi Ayurvedic therapies that I'm aware of, vaman, or vomiting, is eschewed. Thou shalt not vomit in a PK MA haunt. The Finnicized form of the name 'George' is - lo and behold - 'Yrjö'. (Even the Swedish pronunciation of their Georg, namely -- approximately -- 'yeh-orry' [sic!] doesn't seem to explain that...). Oddly enough, as a verb, '[to] yrjö' [uerr-yoe] is used to mean 'to vomit', or 'speak Norwegian to a porcelain duck'! :0 Broken capillaries and all that...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi?
I think a more appropriate word than loincloth, could be doti?' From: tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 16 May, 2010 1:16:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh Yogi as Dark Yogi? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 1:43 PM, tartbrain wrote: But, yeah, I could see how the alternation of the deep rest of TM with the stoned-consciousness of real good weed would create such skill in action Transcend, activity, transcend, activity ... sounds like he was totally on the program. His tie-dye now never fades. The time honored tradtion of sadhus everywhere. Yes, yes! And the vomiting on himself from over-boozing is just a secret sign for the integration of inner and outer. Well, until you embrace and own your inner vomit, until you see the full effulgence and infinite love of the Divine in vomit -- well then one is truly a spiritual slacker. The Agorhis have it right -- see the divine and the unity of all things -- including the cremations ashes and skulls of the graveyard. Don't settle for the superficial gloss and veneer of the gross relative. All you need is Love ... Paul seems to have gotten it right. May your tie-dye loincloth never fade.
[FairfieldLife] Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
I have really been enjoying reading the posts on Buddha at the Gas Pump. And Thank God, their protocol does not allow all the bickering, insults, attacks that are so prevalent here. I do not belong to that group, and have no intention to do so. I am more comfortable here, because I am pretty good in participating the aforementioned behaviorss. But over the last day or so, there have been many posts castigating off shore drilling, nuclear power plants, and other sentiments along those lines. But they have a guy, named Ravi, who is evidnetly having experiences of higher states of conscioussness. And, as best I can understand, because of this, he feels he must assume the role as his wife's guru. She, as best I can understand has been a devotee of Amma, but he has gone so far as to make her repeat 3 times, that she denounces Amma, and accepts him as her only legitimate Guru. And he claims he is doing all this for her own good. There are some other nuances along these lines, but that is the just, as best I understand. And the response from the other participants? Silence. Silence. To me, I see some hypocrisy, and maybe cowardice. For the record, only our torch bearer, Rick Archer seems to have had the fortitude to question him about this attitude.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
Sounds like Robin Woodsworth Carlsen --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: I have really been enjoying reading the posts on Buddha at the Gas Pump. And Thank God, their protocol does not allow all the bickering, insults, attacks that are so prevalent here. I do not belong to that group, and have no intention to do so. I am more comfortable here, because I am pretty good in participating the aforementioned behaviorss. But over the last day or so, there have been many posts castigating off shore drilling, nuclear power plants, and other sentiments along those lines. But they have a guy, named Ravi, who is evidnetly having experiences of higher states of conscioussness. And, as best I can understand, because of this, he feels he must assume the role as his wife's guru. She, as best I can understand has been a devotee of Amma, but he has gone so far as to make her repeat 3 times, that she denounces Amma, and accepts him as her only legitimate Guru. And he claims he is doing all this for her own good. There are some other nuances along these lines, but that is the just, as best I understand. And the response from the other participants? Silence. Silence. To me, I see some hypocrisy, and maybe cowardice. For the record, only our torch bearer, Rick Archer seems to have had the fortitude to question him about this attitude.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: snip But over the last day or so, there have been many posts castigating off shore drilling, nuclear power plants, and other sentiments along those lines. But they have a guy, named Ravi, who is evidnetly having experiences of higher states of conscioussness. And, as best I can understand, because of this, he feels he must assume the role as his wife's guru. She, as best I can understand has been a devotee of Amma, but he has gone so far as to make her repeat 3 times, that she denounces Amma, and accepts him as her only legitimate Guru. And he claims he is doing all this for her own good. There are some other nuances along these lines, but that is the just, as best I understand. And the response from the other participants? Silence. Silence. To me, I see some hypocrisy, and maybe cowardice. For the record, only our torch bearer, Rick Archer seems to have had the fortitude to question him about this attitude. Yow. From your description, it sounds like some kind of intervention is needed, fast (not online, in person). (Is there some connection between this and the denunciations of offshore drilling etc.?)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
Ok, I believe he (Ravi) is of Indian descent. He claims that although he embraces, or at least is comfortable with liberal western values, that his wife is traditional in her values, and that she wants her husband to be her guru as well. Maybe it is all good. But it doesn't sound quite right to me. My connection between this situation, and off shore drilling, was that there seemed to be a big pile on, in the sense that members of the group were echoing one another that the BP disaster should make it clear that all off shore drilling should be banned, and then while we're at it, lets ban any more nuclear plants. Now, rightly or wrongly, I figure that people who espouse those sentiments are also likely to be vocal about women's rights, and it seemed that no one cared to challenge Ravi about his decision to ban his wife from participating in anything to do with Amma, and that going forward he was to occupy that role. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: snip But over the last day or so, there have been many posts castigating off shore drilling, nuclear power plants, and other sentiments along those lines. But they have a guy, named Ravi, who is evidnetly having experiences of higher states of conscioussness. And, as best I can understand, because of this, he feels he must assume the role as his wife's guru. She, as best I can understand has been a devotee of Amma, but he has gone so far as to make her repeat 3 times, that she denounces Amma, and accepts him as her only legitimate Guru. And he claims he is doing all this for her own good. There are some other nuances along these lines, but that is the just, as best I understand. And the response from the other participants? Silence. Silence. To me, I see some hypocrisy, and maybe cowardice. For the record, only our torch bearer, Rick Archer seems to have had the fortitude to question him about this attitude. Yow. From your description, it sounds like some kind of intervention is needed, fast (not online, in person). (Is there some connection between this and the denunciations of offshore drilling etc.?)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Ok, I believe he (Ravi) is of Indian descent. He claims that although he embraces, or at least is comfortable with liberal western values, that his wife is traditional in her values, and that she wants her husband to be her guru as well. Maybe it is all good. But it doesn't sound quite right to me. Me neither. I mean, if they have some kind of mutual agreement, that's one thing, but it's a private matter. Forcing her to repudiate Amma in public borders on abusive, it seems to me (again, on the basis of what you describe). My connection between this situation, and off shore drilling, was that there seemed to be a big pile on, in the sense that members of the group were echoing one another that the BP disaster should make it clear that all off shore drilling should be banned, and then while we're at it, lets ban any more nuclear plants. Now, rightly or wrongly, I figure that people who espouse those sentiments are also likely to be vocal about women's rights, and it seemed that no one cared to challenge Ravi about his decision to ban his wife from participating in anything to do with Amma, and that going forward he was to occupy that role. I see the connection you were making. I think people are a lot more reluctant to challenge personal stuff publicly than huge impersonal entities like BP or the nuclear power industry. So that doesn't really surprise me. I hope she has some friends she can go to if he begins to get out of hand. Just sounds potentially ungood.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Ok, I believe he (Ravi) is of Indian descent. He claims that although he embraces, or at least is comfortable with liberal western values, that his wife is traditional in her values, and that she wants her husband to be her guru as well. Maybe it is all good. But it doesn't sound quite right to me. Me neither. I mean, if they have some kind of mutual agreement, that's one thing, but it's a private matter. Forcing her to repudiate Amma in public borders on abusive, it seems to me (again, on the basis of what you describe). Well, just to be clear. I don't believe the repudiation was a public event. I believe he made her do it privately to him. But he did not seem to mind talking about it. My connection between this situation, and off shore drilling, was that there seemed to be a big pile on, in the sense that members of the group were echoing one another that the BP disaster should make it clear that all off shore drilling should be banned, and then while we're at it, lets ban any more nuclear plants. Now, rightly or wrongly, I figure that people who espouse those sentiments are also likely to be vocal about women's rights, and it seemed that no one cared to challenge Ravi about his decision to ban his wife from participating in anything to do with Amma, and that going forward he was to occupy that role. I see the connection you were making. I think people are a lot more reluctant to challenge personal stuff publicly than huge impersonal entities like BP or the nuclear power industry. So that doesn't really surprise me. I hope she has some friends she can go to if he begins to get out of hand. Just sounds potentially ungood.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: I see the connection you were making. I think people are a lot more reluctant to challenge personal stuff publicly than huge impersonal entities like BP or the nuclear power industry. So that doesn't really surprise me. I mean, it's all very proper and polite over there. But the under current is aren't we pretty progressive here. So, I'm not sure how you just let something like this Ravi thing pass without a little bit of a challenge. But I enjoy the banter, even if I don't feel the need to participate. I hope she has some friends she can go to if he begins to get out of hand. Just sounds potentially ungood.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
And you consider your side to be nuanced? WillyTex has it correct,some Christians believe this, however, by and large most do not. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Mike Dixon: ...it sure makes more since than the Replacement theology taught for so long, which would make God a liar in his own words. As for what anybody chooses to believe, that's their business, not mine. do.rflex: 'My' understanding from the Christian fundamentalists is generally that anyone who doesn't accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, is headed for the...'Lake of Fire' described in the Book of Revelation. Replacement theology teaches that the Church has replaced Israel. But, the majority of Evangelical Christians do not ascribe to 'replacement theology'. In Romans 9, Chapter 11, Paul writes that God has not cast away Israel.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Zen Of Hard Work
Hard work is ennobling. Good job --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: So tomorrow is the final release candidate build for the product I've been working on. And it's been a bit of a nightmare release, in which the developers basically reinvented the entire infrastructure and philosophy of the product. Because hubris runs high (and somewhat deservedly) among this particular set of developers, they always overestimate what they can squeeze into the release and underestimate how long it will take them to do so. This means that Documentation bites the big one. I won't go into the particulars, but suffice it to say that I've worked 191 hours over the last two weeks. Not hardly yer average French 35-hour workweek. But I finished. Praise the Lord and pass the Lagavulin. I have never missed a software deadline. Not once, in almost 30 years in the business. I just do DO missing deadlines, or causing them to slip. Writing documentation is a service profession, like waiting tables or fixing other people's cars. Only trouble is, writing doc has been likened to Trying to fix a tire on a moving car. The software keeps changing, as you're trying to write the definitive guide to what it is, what it looks like, and how to use it. It would drive a lesser man crazy. No comments here, please. :-) And the funny thing is, it was a heckuva ride, and a heckuva lot of fun. I really GET OFF on doing a good job. Whatever you may think of him or say of him, I owe a lot of this 'tude about work to Rama, Dr. Frederick Lenz. Dude taught me that hard work was the next best thing to samadhi. And that if you do your work well enough, it can actually lead to samadhi. Your work becomes, in essence, your Way. Some people make a distinction between their work lives and their spiritual lives. They have what they call Day Jobs. I have a Way Job.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
On May 16, 2010, at 9:15 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Ok, I believe he (Ravi) is of Indian descent. He claims that although he embraces, or at least is comfortable with liberal western values, that his wife is traditional in her values, and that she wants her husband to be her guru as well. Maybe it is all good. But it doesn't sound quite right to me. My connection between this situation, and off shore drilling, was that there seemed to be a big pile on, in the sense that members of the group were echoing one another that the BP disaster should make it clear that all off shore drilling should be banned, and then while we're at it, lets ban any more nuclear plants. Now, rightly or wrongly, I figure that people who espouse those sentiments are also likely to be vocal about women's rights, and it seemed that no one cared to challenge Ravi about his decision to ban his wife from participating in anything to do with Amma, and that going forward he was to occupy that role. Maybe he thinks Amma is really Andy Rymer in drag. I wonder, if he's being so obvious about it, if maybe it's some kind of a set-up. I mean, I could really see Shemp trying something like this out, and then saying... See? I was right! All you liberals really are phony hypocrites... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: I wonder, if he's being so obvious about it, if maybe it's some kind of a set-up. I mean, I could really see Shemp trying something like this out, and then saying... See? I was right! All you liberals really are phony hypocrites... Nah, it's more like a rennaisance dance over there. The interactions are all pretty polite, and follow a somewhat formal structure. First you nod or curtsey (acknowledge the worth of the person you are addressing). Then you take their hand, and engage in the first steps of the dance ( begin the content of your post), take a few twirls (most of their posts tend to be brief), and pass your partner on the next person, ( acknowledge that you have enjoyed the chat, and that, more importantly, some insight has been gained). I think you've been hanging around here too long.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
On May 16, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On May 16, 2010, at 9:15 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Ok, I believe he (Ravi) is of Indian descent. He claims that although he embraces, or at least is comfortable with liberal western values, that his wife is traditional in her values, and that she wants her husband to be her guru as well. Maybe it is all good. But it doesn't sound quite right to me. My connection between this situation, and off shore drilling, was that there seemed to be a big pile on, in the sense that members of the group were echoing one another that the BP disaster should make it clear that all off shore drilling should be banned, and then while we're at it, lets ban any more nuclear plants. Now, rightly or wrongly, I figure that people who espouse those sentiments are also likely to be vocal about women's rights, and it seemed that no one cared to challenge Ravi about his decision to ban his wife from participating in anything to do with Amma, and that going forward he was to occupy that role. Maybe he thinks Amma is really Andy Rymer in drag. I wonder, if he's being so obvious about it, if maybe it's some kind of a set-up. I mean, I could really see Shemp trying something like this out, and then saying... See? I was right! All you liberals really are phony hypocrites... OK, I went to the group today because this piqued my interest, and a couple of things jumped out at me. Firstly, lurk, it's only been a few hours since he posted his little anti-Amma bit, it's a Sunday and the group only has 50 people or so. Second, he made the comment in the context of another thread, and it's easy when that happens for something that's basically off-topic to get lost. And thirdly--I don't know. He puts LOLs and smiley faces all over the post he announces he basically made his wife renounce Amma and accept himself, Ravi, as her guru--like it's some big joke or something. Which kind of gives the post a sort of weird feeling to me, since what he's describing doesn't sound at all fun. I'll stick with the insults and rudeness over here any day, lurk. You can go with the Ravi types who sound close to certifiable. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
On May 16, 2010, at 10:38 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: I wonder, if he's being so obvious about it, if maybe it's some kind of a set-up. I mean, I could really see Shemp trying something like this out, and then saying... See? I was right! All you liberals really are phony hypocrites... Nah, it's more like a rennaisance dance over there. The interactions are all pretty polite, and follow a somewhat formal structure. First you nod or curtsey (acknowledge the worth of the person you are addressing). Then you take their hand, and engage in the first steps of the dance ( begin the content of your post), take a few twirls (most of their posts tend to be brief), and pass your partner on the next person, ( acknowledge that you have enjoyed the chat, and that, more importantly, some insight has been gained). How boring. I think you've been hanging around here too long. You're right--I've undoubtedly become permanently warped. C'est la vie. Sal
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 9:15 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump Ok, I believe he (Ravi) is of Indian descent. He claims that although he embraces, or at least is comfortable with liberal western values, that his wife is traditional in her values, and that she wants her husband to be her guru as well. Maybe it is all good. But it doesn't sound quite right to me. My connection between this situation, and off shore drilling, was that there seemed to be a big pile on, in the sense that members of the group were echoing one another that the BP disaster should make it clear that all off shore drilling should be banned, and then while we're at it, lets ban any more nuclear plants. Now, rightly or wrongly, I figure that people who espouse those sentiments are also likely to be vocal about women's rights, and it seemed that no one cared to challenge Ravi about his decision to ban his wife from participating in anything to do with Amma, and that going forward he was to occupy that role. Actually, I was the one who suggested that the oil spill may end the debate about expanding off-shore oil drilling. Here's my comment: My take on the leak is that humanity is too stupid and stubborn to see and adopt more evolutionary, environmentally-friendly technologies voluntarily, so we need very graphic, explicit lessons. This one kind of ends the debate on off-shore drilling, I'd say. Let's hope we don't need a lesson on nuclear power plants. I also responded to Ravi thusly: Why does she have to reject Amma? Can't she derive inspiration from multiple sources? With so much change and development still going on in your life, do you really feel qualified to be a guru? Or maybe it's a traditional Indian thing, where the wife sees her husband as her guru. And in another post: So are you entering an Anti-Amma phase, or do you just feel that your wife's devotion to you should be undivided? Will you and she still go to see Amma? He hasn't responded to this yet. I'll reserve judgment on Ravi. I don't know him or his relationship with his wife well enough to understand what's going on between them. He was my most recent interview and I hope to have the audio and video up at http://batgap.com/ within a day or two.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: OK, I went to the group today because this piqued my interest, and a couple of things jumped out at me. Firstly, lurk, it's only been a few hours since he posted his little anti-Amma bit, it's a Sunday and the group only has 50 people or so. I believe it has been a little more than a few hours, and it seemed that the group was pretty active responding to posts quickly. Bottom line, I am dismissing this possiblity Second, he made the comment in the context of another thread, and it's easy when that happens for something that's basically off-topic to get lost. didn't get that on my end And thirdly--I don't know. He puts LOLs and smiley faces all over the post he announces he basically made his wife renounce Amma and accept himself, Ravi, as her guru--like it's some big joke or something. I missed those nuances. It all seemed pretty serious to me Which kind of gives the post a sort of weird feeling to me, since what he's describing doesn't sound at all fun. Yea, kind of seems to me like he went a couple steps beyond what seems normal. I'll stick with the insults and rudeness over here any day, lurk. You can go with the Ravi types who sound close to certifiable. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 9:15 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Observations on Buddha at the Gas Pump Ok, I believe he (Ravi) is of Indian descent. He claims that although he embraces, or at least is comfortable with liberal western values, that his wife is traditional in her values, and that she wants her husband to be her guru as well. Maybe it is all good. But it doesn't sound quite right to me. My connection between this situation, and off shore drilling, was that there seemed to be a big pile on, in the sense that members of the group were echoing one another that the BP disaster should make it clear that all off shore drilling should be banned, and then while we're at it, lets ban any more nuclear plants. Now, rightly or wrongly, I figure that people who espouse those sentiments are also likely to be vocal about women's rights, and it seemed that no one cared to challenge Ravi about his decision to ban his wife from participating in anything to do with Amma, and that going forward he was to occupy that role. Actually, I was the one who suggested that the oil spill may end the debate about expanding off-shore oil drilling. Here's my comment: My take on the leak is that humanity is too stupid and stubborn to see and adopt more evolutionary, environmentally-friendly technologies voluntarily, so we need very graphic, explicit lessons. This one kind of ends the debate on off-shore drilling, I'd say. Let's hope we don't need a lesson on nuclear power plants. Okay, thanks for the clarification. It sounds to me like the solutions you propose are pretty radical. Nuclear seems to be working well in places it is generating power. I also responded to Ravi thusly: Why does she have to reject Amma? Can't she derive inspiration from multiple sources? With so much change and development still going on in your life, do you really feel qualified to be a guru? Or maybe it's a traditional Indian thing, where the wife sees her husband as her guru. And in another post: So are you entering an Anti-Amma phase, or do you just feel that your wife's devotion to you should be undivided? Will you and she still go to see Amma?Right, I would be interested in hearing a response. Seems to me everyone else gave him a free pass. I guess some feel it wouldn't be polite, or that it would be awkward to press him on this. He hasn't responded to this yet. I'll reserve judgment on Ravi. I don't know him or his relationship with his wife well enough to understand what's going on between them. He was my most recent interview and I hope to have the audio and video up at I am sure it will shed some light on what his perspective is. http://batgap.com/ within a day or two. Thanks
