[FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-24 Thread whynotnow7
LOL - the last group I managed had both Irish and German nationals on it. Very 
cool. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:

 OMG !! My heart started racing when I saw the I'm German part, anything more 
 than 25 you will end up being that intellectual pervert - Angela M, unless of 
 course your first name is either Judy or Denise :-)
 
 On Nov 23, 2011, at 3:40 PM, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
 
  I am genetically 25% German, so I enjoy the culture. I liked that Rammstein 
  video. The rest of me is 25% Norwegian, 25% Irish and 25% Welsh. Precision 
  and art. Restraint and humor. No fame or fortune. :-0 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
   
Excellent! Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:

 Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein.  Tee Hee.  
 
 Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving.  Aaaau.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related

   
   
   I like to drum along with Ich will:
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34feature=related
   
   The drum part is way simple, but has IMHO a fairly good drive and
   even groove for a metal band, or stuff. Also, the Sanskrit-like
   power of the German language is rather obvious...
  
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Amerika

2011-11-24 Thread whynotnow7
I had forgotten about this song until your post, and really enjoyed  the video 
- What's a better reason to have a space program than to land on the moon and 
rock? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Nice, actually and we are so fortunate to so be.  
 
 
 
 
  From: whynotnow7 whynotnow7@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:38 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rammstein - Amerika
  
 
   
 I think I can hear them up there!
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yydlX7c8HbY
 
 
  
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Music Video: Occupy the Future

2011-11-24 Thread whynotnow7
Well done, enjoyed the song - I'm curious about the granularity of the modeling 
interface - is the blinking by the characters built in?
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 This is my latest Captain Bebops video Occupy the Future:
 http://youtu.be/EuVxn0RdLNc
 
 Enjoy!





[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread whynotnow7
It was an interesting article. I've heard the Chancellor interviewed here on TV 
and radio a fair amount following the UC Davis debacle, and she comes across to 
me anyway as genuinely concerned about this, beyond just saying the right 
things. Seems like a decent enough soul in the middle of a very ugly situation. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
 
  On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:03 PM, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
  
   Thanks to the EU, bankers, and UC Davis chancellor Linda Katehi,
   university freedom for Greece's students has taken a huge, dark step
   backwards.
  
  
  UC Davis' Affirmative Action Chancellor.  There was a time in a universe
  far away where people had to be qualified to hold a position other than by
  quota.
 
 
 So it's all about a bug about blacks and women, again. Sounds familiar, Tom. 
 Moaning about the excesses of affirmative action is such an old saw. What's 
 up with that? Are you concerned that some poor pissed upon white guy who 
 usually gets a leg up from *his* good old boy affirmative action network 
 might not be able to compete on a level playing field with a person with 
 equal qualifications from an underrepresented group?  Do you think there are 
 so many job openings for chancellor of a university that Katehi's appointment 
 simply fulfilled a quota?
 
 Katehi isn't a lightweight who didn't earn or deserve her position as 
 chancellor of UC Davis. Her curriculum vitae could compete with any man for 
 the job she holds. 
 http://chancellor.ucdavis.edu/about/index.html
 
 But that's not the point of the article, is it?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-24 Thread obbajeeba
Happy Thanksgiving, Emily and everyone!

IDK= I don't know  TTYL= Talk to you later
\,,/ = variation of horns.

When one feels real pissed off, this can be soothing, here are some awesome 
Polish instrumentals with someone's variations of horns.  :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXvBn7FybBs

Here is another song from an album with a finger configuration from ancient 
cultures: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3ZBtDe0cZ4

Maybe one of our Sanskrit experts can give the meanings of the hand signs.
 Maybe Ravi knows?  Ravi, are you here? 
 Sal, do you know? Please share. : ) 
 Turq may know, he is of the Buddhist interest? 

I would like to know why the song was put to the below Rammstein youtube? The 
song was not from the band. LOL.
Around 1:21 in the youtube video, a quick glimpse at hands holding  
   \,,/   in the air towards the stage, known as Horns.  Some say the 
devil's horns, yet it is the old symbol many ancient cultures use.
I don't believe the symbol \,,/ is of the devil, because I do not believe in 
the devil. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux7EvC3zRAEfeature=related
 
.back to baking pies.see ya'll later!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Obaanow, remember, I'm just jumpin' on the utube thing - it's 
 really me that is in utube school :).  And I still keep my dictionary close 
 at hand to translate certain words and phrases in maskedzebra and Judy's 
 posts.  And, the YMMV, ROTFLMAO, wrt, FWIW, IMO, etc. acronyms are just 
 starting to stick.  What language is this, pray tell.  
 
 ^.^
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:10 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream
  
 
   
 \,,/
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
 
  Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein.  Tee Hee.  
  
  Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving.  Aaaau.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related
 
 
 
  
 
 





[FairfieldLife] UFO over in Saigon, Vietnam July 25, 2011.mp4

2011-11-24 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBvOaIIlZdw



[FairfieldLife] Blog about Maharishi

2011-11-24 Thread TimA
Happy Thanksgiving to group members.  You might enjoy reading a blog that 
contains beuatiful quotes by Maharishi on love and compassion, a poem about 
him, and an informative essay about the current quality of collective 
consciousness.  It is at http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/.  
Hope you enjoy.



[FairfieldLife] Happy Thanksgiving

2011-11-24 Thread turquoiseb
As much of a sucker as I may be for the traditional family Thanksgiving,
the image of the holiday I'm fondest of is the Addams Family
Thanksgiving. Real OWS stuff, way ahead of its time.  :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccj2BH25c0I






Re: [FairfieldLife] UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:42 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:

 It was an interesting article. I've heard the Chancellor interviewed here on 
 TV and radio a fair amount following the UC Davis debacle, and she comes 
 across to me anyway as genuinely concerned about this, beyond just saying the 
 right things. Seems like a decent enough soul in the middle of a very ugly 
 situation. 

Then you would have been perfect bait for the Nazis, Jim.  A lot of 
them came across as decent souls, too.  Wake up. Anyone can put on a pious 
act for the cameras.  It's  what they do that counts, and her actions were 
reprehensible.  

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
 
 On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:03 PM, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
 Thanks to the EU, bankers, and UC Davis chancellor Linda Katehi,
 university freedom for Greece's students has taken a huge, dark step
 backwards.
 
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Thanksgiving

2011-11-24 Thread obbajeeba
Excellent!
Thanks for the reality check!  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 As much of a sucker as I may be for the traditional family Thanksgiving,
 the image of the holiday I'm fondest of is the Addams Family
 Thanksgiving. Real OWS stuff, way ahead of its time.  :-)
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccj2BH25c0I





[FairfieldLife] Re: General Anton Dostler

2011-11-24 Thread obbajeeba
Happy Thanksgiving!  : )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:

 The General being prepared for execution, 1945:
 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/35244.jpg





[FairfieldLife] Re: Blog about Maharishi

2011-11-24 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TimA alejandro_ferrera44@...
wrote:

 Happy Thanksgiving to group members. You might enjoy reading a blog
that contains beuatiful quotes by Maharishi on love and compassion, a
poem about him, and an informative essay about the current quality of
collective consciousness. It is at
http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/. Hope you enjoy.


Let us be in love with all around us. Let us in love resolve to be in
love, for love is life, and certainly we do not want to step out of
life. So let us in love resolve to remain in love and let us never step
out of the boundaries of lovingness. For in love dwells the power of
God, the power of creation, wisdom of life and the strength of all good.
Certainly our life has to be all in love.



Beautiful, thanks for posting this !







[FairfieldLife] Re: Blog about Maharishi

2011-11-24 Thread maskedzebra
Nevertheless, Tim, see the Sicilian way Gaga prepared her turkey tonight. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TimA alejandro_ferrera44@... wrote:

 Happy Thanksgiving to group members.  You might enjoy reading a blog that 
 contains beuatiful quotes by Maharishi on love and compassion, a poem about 
 him, and an informative essay about the current quality of collective 
 consciousness.  It is at http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/. 
  Hope you enjoy.





[FairfieldLife] Gaga Turkey

2011-11-24 Thread maskedzebra

Lady Gaga Gets Cookin' in ABC Thanksgiving Special 
Source: thedailybeast.com 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Blog about Maharishi

2011-11-24 Thread maskedzebra
And you might also want to catch Aaron Rogers well before this.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TimA alejandro_ferrera44@... wrote:

 Happy Thanksgiving to group members.  You might enjoy reading a blog that 
 contains beuatiful quotes by Maharishi on love and compassion, a poem about 
 him, and an informative essay about the current quality of collective 
 consciousness.  It is at http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/. 
  Hope you enjoy.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-24 Thread maskedzebra
 Crow's First Lesson

God tried to teach Crow how to talk.
Love, said God. Say, Love.
Crow gaped, and the white shark crashed into the sea
And went rolling downwards, discovering its own depth.

No, no said God, Say Love. Now try it. LOVE.
Crow gaped, and a bluefly, a tsetse, a mosquito
Zoomed out and down
To their sundry flesh-pots.

A final try, said God. Now, LOVE.
Crow convulsed, gaped, retched and
Man's bodiless prodigious head
Bulbed out onto the earth, with swivelling eyes,
Jabbering protest—

And Crow retched again, before God could stop him.
And woman's vulva dropped over man's neck and tightened.
The two struggled together on the grass.
God struggled to part them cursed, wept—

Crow flew guiltily off.

TH


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
 
   Frankly I don't want to be bored to death by some
  British poet reading one of his works in a monotone.   
  I did just fine in 4th grade, thank you, and didn't
  need to repeat it.  Or stay developmentally arrested
  there.
 
 Ha!
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXYMNDu-qxo
 
 ...a shadow man. He's a man to correct Man. But of course
 he's not a man - he's a crow, and he never does quite become
 a man...
 
 ...The crow is the indestructible...bird, who suffering
 everything, suffers nothing





[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 It was an interesting article. I've heard the Chancellor
 interviewed here on TV and radio a fair amount following
 the UC Davis debacle, and she comes across to me anyway
 as genuinely concerned about this, beyond just saying the
 right things. Seems like a decent enough soul in the
 middle of a very ugly situation.

She is fighting for her job at this point, so she does
have a strong motivation to say the right things. But
I don't really see her as the devil incarnate. I don't
think she had any idea that the police were going to
use excessive force on the protesters when she told them
to remove the tents. From a CBS News story:

During Tuesday's meeting with about 1,000 students, Katehi
said she had only directed police to take down tents that
anti-Wall Street protesters had erected on the campus quad.

'My instructions were for no arrests and no police force,'
she said. 'I explicitly directed the chief of police that
violence should be avoided at all costs.'

I've seen no evidence to suggest she's lying, much less
that she intended for the police to use excessive force,
nor any indications that she wasn't horrified by what
happened. As the person who ordered the police to remove
the tents, she's ultimately responsible, but the most
she's guilty of, as far as I can see, is a failure to
anticipate the possibility that the police would ignore
her  instructions to avoid violence, and perhaps a
failure initially to make sufficiently strong statements
following the pepper spraying.

My sense is that she really wasn't that tuned in to what
was going on with the protests day to day. She's been
heavily into other unrelated administrative activities
that most likely were consuming most of her attention.

The post on Naked Capitalism raunchy linked to itself
links to a post on Crooked Timber that expresses the
same concerns about her background but is not quite so
inflammatory:

http://crookedtimber.org/2011/11/22/athens-polytechnic-comes-to-uc-davis/

http://tinyurl.com/8yqa34c

The interesting thing about this post is the comments,
several from Greek students or former Greek students,
which provide alternate points of view about the amnesty
situation at the universities and the panel Katehi was
on that made the decision to eliminate it. Apparently
under the amnesty all was not sweetness and light and
peace and free speech. The lack of police presence on
campuses was taken advantage of by various factions of
political thugs, who made life very unpleasant and even
dangerous for the student body.

The political situation in Greece has always been 
insanely complicated, and it's particularly fraught
these days because of the country's desperate economic
plight. It's not clear to me from what I've read that
the panel Katehi was on was willingly doing the bidding
of evil corporate and banking interests in lifting the
amnesty, although furthering those interests may well
have been the effect of the panel's decisions (of which
lifting the amnesty was only one).

Naked Capitalism is one of the top financial blogs, but
I'm not entirely sure its expertise extends to the
university situation in Greece and its relationship to
the Occupy Davis police action.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
  
   On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:03 PM, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
   
Thanks to the EU, bankers, and UC Davis chancellor Linda Katehi,
university freedom for Greece's students has taken a huge, dark step
backwards.
   
   
   UC Davis' Affirmative Action Chancellor.  There was a time in a universe
   far away where people had to be qualified to hold a position other than by
   quota.
  
  
  So it's all about a bug about blacks and women, again. Sounds familiar, 
  Tom. Moaning about the excesses of affirmative action is such an old saw. 
  What's up with that? Are you concerned that some poor pissed upon white guy 
  who usually gets a leg up from *his* good old boy affirmative action 
  network might not be able to compete on a level playing field with a person 
  with equal qualifications from an underrepresented group?  Do you think 
  there are so many job openings for chancellor of a university that Katehi's 
  appointment simply fulfilled a quota?
  
  Katehi isn't a lightweight who didn't earn or deserve her position as 
  chancellor of UC Davis. Her curriculum vitae could compete with any man for 
  the job she holds. 
  http://chancellor.ucdavis.edu/about/index.html
  
  But that's not the point of the article, is it?
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream

2011-11-24 Thread seventhray1

My fourteen year daughter nailed the first and third one immediately. 
Got the second one after a moment.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...
wrote:

 IDK, LY, TTYL. Â

 (My daughter intuitively sensing my language barrier just sent me
thatso I'm paying it forward to you, Ravi)



 
  From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rammstein - Requiem for a Dream
 
 
 Â
 OMG !! My heart started racing when I saw the I'm German part,
anything more than 25 you will end up being that intellectual pervert -
Angela M, unless of course your first name is either Judy or Denise :-)
 
 On Nov 23, 2011, at 3:40 PM, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
 
 
 Â
 I am genetically 25% German, so I enjoy the culture. I liked that
Rammstein video. The rest of me is 25% Norwegian, 25% Irish and 25%
Welsh. Precision and art. Restraint and humor. No fame or fortune. :-0
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@
wrote:
  
   Excellent! Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving!
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn
emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
   
Now this is the way to appreciate Rammstein. Â Tee Hee.
Â
   
Time to prepare for battle - I mean Thanksgiving. Â
Aaaau.
   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wat8pEW2B4feature=related
   
  
 
  I like to drum along with Ich will:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34feature=related
 
  The drum part is way simple, but has IMHO a fairly good drive and
  even groove for a metal band, or stuff. Also, the Sanskrit-like
  power of the German language is rather obvious...
 
 
 
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Blog about Maharishi

2011-11-24 Thread maskedzebra
When I man has given himself to God's service, when he has denied himself and 
followed Christ, he has fitted himself to receive and does receive from God a 
special guidance, a more particular providence. This guidance is conveyed 
partly by the action of other men, as his appointed superiors, and partly by 
direct lights and inspirations. If I wait for such guidance, through whatever 
channel conveyed, about anything, about my poetry for instance, I do more 
wisely in every way than if I try to serve my own seeming interests in the 
matter. Now if you value what I write, if I do myself, much more does our Lord. 
And if he chooses to avail himself of what I leave at his disposal he can do so 
with a felicity and with a success which I could never command. And if he does 
not, then two things follow; one that the reward I shall nevertheless receive 
from him will be all the greater; the other that then I shall know how much a 
thing contrary to his will and even to my own best interests I should have done 
if I had taken things into my own hands and forced on publication. This is my 
principle and this in the main has been my practice: leading the sort of life I 
do here it seems easy, but when one mixes with the world and meets on every 
side its secret solicitations, to live by faith is harder, is very hard; 
nevertheless of God's help I shall always do so.

Our Society [Jesuit] values, as you say, and has contributed to literature, to 
culture; but only as a means to an end. Its history and its experience show 
that literature proper, as poetry, has seldom been found to be to that end a 
very serviceable means. We have had for three centuries often the flower of the 
youth of a country in numbers enter our body: among these how many poets, how 
many artists of all sorts, there must have been! But there have been very few 
Jesuit poets and, where they have been, I believe it would be found on 
examination that there was something exceptional in their circumstances or, so 
to say, counterbalancing in their career. For genius attracts fame and 
individual fame St. Ignatius looked on as the most dangerous and dazzling of 
all attractions . . . You see then what is against me, but since, as Solomon 
says, there is a time for everything, there is nothing that does not some day 
come to be, it may be that the time will come for my verses. I remember, by the 
by, once taking up a little book of the life of St. Stanislaus told or 
commented on under emblems; it was much in the style of Herbert and his school 
and about that date; it was by some Polish Jesuit. I was astonished at their 
beauty and brilliancy, but the author is quite obscure. Brilliancy does not 
suit us. Bourdaloue is reckoned our greatest orator: he is severe in style. 
Suarez is our most famous theologian: he is a man of vast volume of mind, but 
without originality or brilliancy; he treats everything satisfactorily, but you 
never remember a phrase of his, the manner is nothing. Molina is the man who 
*made* our theology: he was a genius and even in his driest dialectic I have 
remarked a certain fervour like a poet's. But in the great controversy on the 
Aids of Grace, the most dangerous crisis, as I suppose, which our Society ever 
went through till its suppression, though it was from his book that it had 
arisen, he took, I think, little part. The same sort of thing may be noticed in 
our saints. St Ignatius himself was certainly, every one who reads his life 
will allow, one of the most extraordinary men that ever lived; but after the 
establishment of the Order he lived in Rome so ordinary, so hidden a life, that 
when after his death they began to move in the process of his canonisation one 
of the Cardinals, who had known him in his later life and in that way only, 
said that he had never remarked anything in him more than in any edifying 
priest . . . I quote these cases to prove that show and brilliancy do not suit 
us, that we cultivate the commonplace outwardly and wish the beauty of the 
king's daughter the soul to be from within.

GMH

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TimA alejandro_ferrera44@... wrote:

 Happy Thanksgiving to group members.  You might enjoy reading a blog that 
 contains beuatiful quotes by Maharishi on love and compassion, a poem about 
 him, and an informative essay about the current quality of collective 
 consciousness.  It is at http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/. 
  Hope you enjoy.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Music Video: Occupy the Future

2011-11-24 Thread Bhairitu
On 11/23/2011 10:28 PM, raunchydog wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@...  wrote:
 This is my latest Captain Bebops video Occupy the Future:
 http://youtu.be/EuVxn0RdLNc

 Enjoy!

 Thanks for posting. I like that your characters are from all walks of life. 
 My favorite video on your channel is Night of the Dreadful Republicans Very 
 funny. What program did you use to make that?

Thanks.  For Night I used iClone 4 for 3D scenes and Crazy Talk 
Animator for the 2D.  They're from Reallusion.com.  I use Magix Movie 
Edit Pro 17 to assemble those files.  With this video I did one thing a 
little different and that was to upload a super high quality HD version 
of it that was almost 300 MB.  Seemed to make a real difference 
especially with the low resolution versions.  YouTube re-encodes the 
file for all resolutions.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Music Video: Occupy the Future

2011-11-24 Thread Bhairitu
Thanks.  The blinking can be turned off and on and adjusted.  It is on 
by default in the program.

On 11/24/2011 03:34 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
 Well done, enjoyed the song - I'm curious about the granularity of the 
 modeling interface - is the blinking by the characters built in?

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@...  wrote:
 This is my latest Captain Bebops video Occupy the Future:
 http://youtu.be/EuVxn0RdLNc

 Enjoy!






Re: [FairfieldLife] Windows Phone outselling Android??

2011-11-24 Thread Bhairitu
On 11/23/2011 11:19 PM, cardemaister wrote:

 Nokia Lumia 800 outselling all Android phones on Vodafone UK, KPN 
 Netherlands online stores

They wish.  Android is getting over 500K activations world wide a day.  
Bravo for Open Source!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Music Video: Occupy the Future

2011-11-24 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 11/23/2011 10:28 PM, raunchydog wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@  wrote:
   This is my latest Captain Bebops video Occupy the Future:
   http://youtu.be/EuVxn0RdLNc
  
   Enjoy!
  
  Thanks for posting. I like that your characters are from 
  all walks of life. My favorite video on your channel is 
  Night of the Dreadful Republicans Very funny. What 
  program did you use to make that?
 
 Thanks.  For Night I used iClone 4 for 3D scenes and Crazy Talk 
 Animator for the 2D.  They're from Reallusion.com.  I use Magix 
 Movie Edit Pro 17 to assemble those files.  With this video I did 
 one thing a little different and that was to upload a super high 
 quality HD version of it that was almost 300 MB. Seemed to make 
 a real difference especially with the low resolution versions.  
 YouTube re-encodes the file for all resolutions.

Neat. Good work. For those of us who have never gotten
into computer animation and music creation, how long do
you reckon such a project took you? I can only imagine
that it was considerable, and I for one appreciate your
efforts. I've forwarded many of your Captain Bebop 
episodes to friends, and had them say that they did
the same thing. Don't know if that contributed to your
hit count or not, but I hope so. 

Like Raunchy, I'm a big fan of the Repub Zombies as well. 
It just seems the proper metaphor. I mean, looking at the
whole scene from afar, from over here in Pussiesland, it 
seems that the Repubs are beyond embarrassment. I had a 
chat over dinner the other night in which we all (3 
Americans, 1 Brit) agreed that the current crop of Repub 
Presidential hopefuls make Dubya look like a member of 
Mensa. One can only imagine who they'll be promoting in 
the next election.

There is a point at which bottom of the barrel becomes
so obvious that people stop dipping into it. The American
Republican Party, in its ardor to supplicate the 1% who
keep them in fancy cars and fancy houses and fancy titles,
seems to have dipped below that point. They seem to really 
not *know* how appalling these people are.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-24 Thread merudanda
TH?
Who owns these questionable brains? Death
No.Ted Hughes
Isn't Ted Hughes poems  so disturbing and real at times? A perfect
example of his skill is  this poem  He could start a poem making you
love a  innocent character then swiftly show the reader how vile and
evil this character is making the reader feel guilty that they could
ever love that character in the first place.

Ted Hughes vision of a chaotic and godless world of random luck and
death is tempered not by Wallace Steven's vision of man -as poet
bringing order to the cosmos -but of Crow in his  trickster guise
wreaking unintentional havoc which is something humans are quite good
at. And in that role the tricksters is, in the end, innocent. He is only
acting on his nature.

Enough of your tricks, Brother Crow..
and do not eat Lady Gaga-- Gaga's Turkey

Research more than 20 years ago indicates that crows are among the
brightest animals in the world. A Murder of Crows brings you these
so-called feathered apes, as you have  seldom seen them before.
If you haven't watched PBS Nature's A Murder of Crows,
you should.
http://video.pbs.org/video/1621910826/#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfI5-RWC-QQ

The way a crow shook down on me
A dust of snow from a hemlock tree
Has given my heart a change of mood
And saved some part of a day I had rued.
Robert Frost
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:

  Crow's First Lesson

 God tried to teach Crow how to talk.
 Love, said God. Say, Love.
 Crow gaped, and the white shark crashed into the sea
 And went rolling downwards, discovering its own depth.

 No, no said God, Say Love. Now try it. LOVE.
 Crow gaped, and a bluefly, a tsetse, a mosquito
 Zoomed out and down
 To their sundry flesh-pots.

 A final try, said God. Now, LOVE.
 Crow convulsed, gaped, retched and
 Man's bodiless prodigious head
 Bulbed out onto the earth, with swivelling eyes,
 Jabbering protest—

 And Crow retched again, before God could stop him.
 And woman's vulva dropped over man's neck and tightened.
 The two struggled together on the grass.
 God struggled to part them cursed, wept—

 Crow flew guiltily off.

 TH


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
  
Frankly I don't want to be bored to death by some
   British poet reading one of his works in a monotone.
   I did just fine in 4th grade, thank you, and didn't
   need to repeat it.  Or stay developmentally arrested
   there.
 
  Ha!
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXYMNDu-qxo
 
  ...a shadow man. He's a man to correct Man. But of course
  he's not a man - he's a crow, and he never does quite become
  a man...
 
  ...The crow is the indestructible...bird, who suffering
  everything, suffers nothing
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Pardons Two Turkeys

2011-11-24 Thread Bhairitu
On 11/23/2011 01:05 PM, John wrote:
 The turkeys were trained to gobble without really saying anything.  The 
 training apparently helped.

 Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!

 http://news.yahoo.com/obama-pardons-pair-gobblers-thanksgiving-155518644.html

Good. I was afraid he was pardoning Bush and Cheney.



[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread whynotnow7
Nazis? wtf?? Sorry, not buying it. I have heard and seen her interviewed 4 or 5 
times and it just doesn't come across as a snow job. 

Which Nazis by the way did you find particularly endearing, making me possibly 
susceptible to their charms? And when is stuffing millions of people into ovens 
the same as one dumbass cop pepper spraying students? You sound pretty touchy 
Sal - perhaps even *out* of touch with reality. Please enjoy your Thanksgiving 
anyway! :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:

 On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:42 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
 
  It was an interesting article. I've heard the Chancellor interviewed here 
  on TV and radio a fair amount following the UC Davis debacle, and she comes 
  across to me anyway as genuinely concerned about this, beyond just saying 
  the right things. Seems like a decent enough soul in the middle of a very 
  ugly situation. 
 
 Then you would have been perfect bait for the Nazis, Jim.  A lot of 
 them came across as decent souls, too.  Wake up. Anyone can put on a pious 
 act for the cameras.  It's  what they do that counts, and her actions were 
 reprehensible.  
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
  
  On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:03 PM, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
  
  Thanks to the EU, bankers, and UC Davis chancellor Linda Katehi,
  university freedom for Greece's students has taken a huge, dark step
  backwards.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] MOVIE REVIEW: TAKE SHELTER - A Subtle End-of-the-World Film

2011-11-24 Thread Jean
Listen up. There is a storm coming like nothing you have ever seen and none of 
you are prepared for it! - Curtis (Michael Shannon), TAKE SHELTER. 

Take Shelter in one way is the simple story of a working class husband and 
father who has visceral dreams of a strange powerful storm coming and reacts by 
expanding his storm shelter.  And in another way, Take Shelter is an 
emotionally complex story which questions a man's sanity.  It is also a story 
filled with loosely connected metaphors and symbolism along side the issues of 
our current lifestyle in the U.S. which gives the film an apocalyptic feel to 
those viewers that make that connection.

Read the rest of the review here: 
http://www.moviereviewsfromaspiritualperspective.com/mainstream-movie-reviews/take-shelter



Re: [FairfieldLife] UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread Sal Sunshine
Jim, I can't remember at this point which article claimed she was responsible 
for giving the cops permission to use the spray.  But I do clearly remember the 
articles pointing out that she was trying to make it seem as though the 
students were holding her hostage right before she made her famous perp walk.  
Anyone in that frame of mind should not have  responsibility for the well-being 
of thousands of students.  Happy Thanksgiving also to you and yours.

On Nov 24, 2011, at 1:00 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:

 Nazis? wtf?? Sorry, not buying it. I have heard and seen her interviewed 4 or 
 5 times and it just doesn't come across as a snow job. 
 
 Which Nazis by the way did you find particularly endearing, making me 
 possibly susceptible to their charms? And when is stuffing millions of people 
 into ovens the same as one dumbass cop pepper spraying students? You sound 
 pretty touchy Sal - perhaps even *out* of touch with reality. Please enjoy 
 your Thanksgiving anyway! :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:
 
 On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:42 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
 
 It was an interesting article. I've heard the Chancellor interviewed here 
 on TV and radio a fair amount following the UC Davis debacle, and she comes 
 across to me anyway as genuinely concerned about this, beyond just saying 
 the right things. Seems like a decent enough soul in the middle of a very 
 ugly situation. 
 
 Then you would have been perfect bait for the Nazis, Jim.  A lot of 
 them came across as decent souls, too.  Wake up. Anyone can put on a pious 
 act for the cameras.  It's what they do that counts, and her actions were 
 reprehensible.  
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Music Video: Occupy the Future

2011-11-24 Thread Bhairitu
On 11/24/2011 10:01 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@...  wrote:
 On 11/23/2011 10:28 PM, raunchydog wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@   wrote:
 This is my latest Captain Bebops video Occupy the Future:
 http://youtu.be/EuVxn0RdLNc

 Enjoy!
 Thanks for posting. I like that your characters are from
 all walks of life. My favorite video on your channel is
 Night of the Dreadful Republicans Very funny. What
 program did you use to make that?
 Thanks.  For Night I used iClone 4 for 3D scenes and Crazy Talk
 Animator for the 2D.  They're from Reallusion.com.  I use Magix
 Movie Edit Pro 17 to assemble those files.  With this video I did
 one thing a little different and that was to upload a super high
 quality HD version of it that was almost 300 MB. Seemed to make
 a real difference especially with the low resolution versions.
 YouTube re-encodes the file for all resolutions.
 Neat. Good work. For those of us who have never gotten
 into computer animation and music creation, how long do
 you reckon such a project took you? I can only imagine
 that it was considerable, and I for one appreciate your
 efforts. I've forwarded many of your Captain Bebop
 episodes to friends, and had them say that they did
 the same thing. Don't know if that contributed to your
 hit count or not, but I hope so.

 Like Raunchy, I'm a big fan of the Repub Zombies as well.
 It just seems the proper metaphor. I mean, looking at the
 whole scene from afar, from over here in Pussiesland, it
 seems that the Repubs are beyond embarrassment. I had a
 chat over dinner the other night in which we all (3
 Americans, 1 Brit) agreed that the current crop of Repub
 Presidential hopefuls make Dubya look like a member of
 Mensa. One can only imagine who they'll be promoting in
 the next election.

 There is a point at which bottom of the barrel becomes
 so obvious that people stop dipping into it. The American
 Republican Party, in its ardor to supplicate the 1% who
 keep them in fancy cars and fancy houses and fancy titles,
 seems to have dipped below that point. They seem to really
 not *know* how appalling these people are.

Thanks.  That video probably with music about 12 hours of work over 3 
days.  Sometimes it's deciding that I don't like a music track and 
re-recording that track.   I made one motion file for the chorus to rock 
back and forth in time to the music so it was merely loading in those 
characters, applying the motion, in some cases changing the faces and 
adding a prop.  I'm always open to figuring out ways to do these in less 
time.

Being in the software industry I've always felt that iClone in fact most 
of the Reallusion products were a bit imbalanced.  I think iClone is a 
hack built over a hack.  There appears to be some design flaws that 
probably require a complete rewrite.  Those flaws also make the product 
less friendly for casual users.  One thing they did is instead of 
creating additional content themselves they opened it to customers to 
create content and sell it on their site.  Neat idea but some of those 
artists overvalue to their work and probably don't sell much.  The 
orange hooded sweatshirt was purchased but the person had the good sense 
to price it right.

One of the hard things to do in iClone is the motion animation and now 
they sell a plugin that works with the Xbox Kinect which allows users to 
do their own motion capture.   I haven't upgraded to that yet but it 
should make the animation easier.

I still go with my theory that the Republicans don't want the White 
House in 2012 because the economy will be further in the dump by then 
and not salvageable by anyone.  They don't want that on their watch so 
they're running these freak shows (debates) every week.  I know I 
sound doom and gloom but anyone who has learned something about 
economics will see the mess.  I can just imagine a scifi short story 
opening with aliens talking about what went wrong with the civilization 
on earth.  And I think you have to think about it from that perspective 
to get a handle on it.

Thanks for forwarding the episodes.  Funny thing is that YouTube has a 
monetize icon next to Republican Cry Babies which means that I can 
put paid ads over the video.  I thought that was a weird selection other 
than maybe the GOP wants to buy ads to put over it. ;-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Nazis? wtf?? Sorry, not buying it. I have heard and seen her
 interviewed 4 or 5 times and it just doesn't come across as
 a snow job.

Katehi hasn't done anything reprehensible, either.

 Which Nazis by the way did you find particularly endearing,
 making me possibly susceptible to their charms? And when
 is stuffing millions of people into ovens the same as one
 dumbass cop pepper spraying students?

And Sal's not even talking about the cop, she's talking
about Katehi, who explicitly told the cops to avoid
violence at all costs when they were taking down the
tents.

 You sound pretty touchy Sal - perhaps even *out* of touch
 with reality. Please enjoy your Thanksgiving anyway! :-)

Sal doesn't have a whole lot of credibility here in her
judgments of people--witness her most recent debacles,
claiming that Mark Landau never had any intention of
selling MMY's sandals, and that Bob Price faked his
wife's post to Denise. And many more before that.


 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
 
  On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:42 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
  
   It was an interesting article. I've heard the Chancellor interviewed here 
   on TV and radio a fair amount following the UC Davis debacle, and she 
   comes across to me anyway as genuinely concerned about this, beyond just 
   saying the right things. Seems like a decent enough soul in the middle of 
   a very ugly situation. 
  
  Then you would have been perfect bait for the Nazis, Jim.  A lot of 
  them came across as decent souls, too.  Wake up. Anyone can put on a 
  pious act for the cameras.  It's  what they do that counts, and her actions 
  were reprehensible.  




[FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

2011-11-24 Thread maskedzebra
THE BLUE FLANNEL SUIT 

I had let it all grow. I had supposed 
It was all OK. Your life
Was a liner I voyaged in. 
Costly education had fitted you out. 
Financiers and committees and consultants 
Effaced themselves in the gleam of your finish. 
You trembled with the new life of those engines. 

That first morning, 
Before your first class at College, you sat there 
Sipping coffee. Now I know, as I did not, 
What eyes waited at the back of the class
To check your first professional performance 
Against their expectations. What assessors 
Waited to see you justify the cost 
And redeem their gamble. What a furnace 
Of eyes waited to prove your metal. I watched 
The strange dummy stiffness, the misery, 
Of your blue flannel suit, its straitjacket, ugly 
Half-approximation to your idea
Of the properties you hoped to ease into,
And your horror in it. And the tanned 
Almost green undertinge of your face 
Shrunk to its wick, your scar lumpish, your plaited 
Head pathetically tiny. 

You waited,
Knowing yourself helpless in the tweezers 
Of the life that judges you, and I saw 
The flayed nerve, the unhealable face-wound
Which was all you had for courage. 
I saw that what you gripped, as you sipped, 
Were terrors that killed you once already. 
Now I see, I saw, sitting, the lonely
Girl who was going to die. 
That blue suit,
A mad, execution uniform, 
Survived your sentence. But then I sat, stilled,
Unable to fathom what stilled you
As I looked at you, as I am stilled 
Permanently now, permanently 
Bending so briefly at your open coffin.

TH

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:

 TH?
 Who owns these questionable brains? Death
 No.Ted Hughes
 Isn't Ted Hughes poems  so disturbing and real at times? A perfect
 example of his skill is  this poem  He could start a poem making you
 love a  innocent character then swiftly show the reader how vile and
 evil this character is making the reader feel guilty that they could
 ever love that character in the first place.
 
 Ted Hughes vision of a chaotic and godless world of random luck and
 death is tempered not by Wallace Steven's vision of man -as poet
 bringing order to the cosmos -but of Crow in his  trickster guise
 wreaking unintentional havoc which is something humans are quite good
 at. And in that role the tricksters is, in the end, innocent. He is only
 acting on his nature.
 
 Enough of your tricks, Brother Crow..
 and do not eat Lady Gaga-- Gaga's Turkey
 
 Research more than 20 years ago indicates that crows are among the
 brightest animals in the world. A Murder of Crows brings you these
 so-called feathered apes, as you have  seldom seen them before.
 If you haven't watched PBS Nature's A Murder of Crows,
 you should.
 http://video.pbs.org/video/1621910826/#
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfI5-RWC-QQ
 
 The way a crow shook down on me
 A dust of snow from a hemlock tree
 Has given my heart a change of mood
 And saved some part of a day I had rued.
 Robert Frost
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote:
 
   Crow's First Lesson
 
  God tried to teach Crow how to talk.
  Love, said God. Say, Love.
  Crow gaped, and the white shark crashed into the sea
  And went rolling downwards, discovering its own depth.
 
  No, no said God, Say Love. Now try it. LOVE.
  Crow gaped, and a bluefly, a tsetse, a mosquito
  Zoomed out and down
  To their sundry flesh-pots.
 
  A final try, said God. Now, LOVE.
  Crow convulsed, gaped, retched and
  Man's bodiless prodigious head
  Bulbed out onto the earth, with swivelling eyes,
  Jabbering protest—
 
  And Crow retched again, before God could stop him.
  And woman's vulva dropped over man's neck and tightened.
  The two struggled together on the grass.
  God struggled to part them cursed, wept—
 
  Crow flew guiltily off.
 
  TH
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
   
 Frankly I don't want to be bored to death by some
British poet reading one of his works in a monotone.
I did just fine in 4th grade, thank you, and didn't
need to repeat it.  Or stay developmentally arrested
there.
  
   Ha!
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXYMNDu-qxo
  
   ...a shadow man. He's a man to correct Man. But of course
   he's not a man - he's a crow, and he never does quite become
   a man...
  
   ...The crow is the indestructible...bird, who suffering
   everything, suffers nothing
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:

 Jim, I can't remember at this point which article claimed
 she was responsible for giving the cops permission to use
 the spray.

Which you believed, in the absence of any evidence. In
fact, she told the cops not to use force in taking down
the tents, and to avoid violence at all costs. The
cops apparently took that as permission to use pepper
spray as long as they didn't actually beat anybody up.

 But I do clearly remember the articles pointing out that
 she was trying to make it seem as though the students
 were holding her hostage right before she made her
 famous perp walk.

Nobody pointed that out, Sal. It had to have been a
fact before it could be pointed out, and it wasn't a fact,
it was their speculation (and these were blog posts, not
articles, just for the record). The media are perfectly
capable of having decided that she was being held
hostage all on their own, regardless of the reality. The
bloggers figured that if this is what the media were
reporting, it must be because Katehi had made it seem
as if it were the case, which is, frankly, just stupid on
the part of the bloggers.

For a different perspective (which Sal, of course, won't
look at), here are two posts by the campus UCC minister,
Kristin Stoneking, the woman who walked with Katehi to
her car on Saturday night through the crowd of seated,
silent protesters. She was involved in setting that up
and describes how it went down:

http://cahouse.org/Weblog/?p=160

http://cahouse.org/Weblog/?p=154

Stoneking is clearly on the side of the protesters and
is critical of how the administration has been 
handling the protests, both at UC-Davis and UC-Berkeley
(the first part of the second post above discusses the
situation at Berkeley, not Davis). But she isn't into
blind, thoughtless condemnation. She explains, among
other things, that Katehi had insisted that the police
*not* be called to disperse the protesters who had
gathered at the building while she was inside, even
though she and others in the building genuinely feared
for her safety if she went outside.

Obviously the behavior of the protesters during what
Sal idiotically refers to as the perp walk made a big
impression on Katehi. She's now a lot more sympathetic
to the students and is clearly committed to finding out
what went wrong and ensuring that it never happens again.
She's put the two cops who used the spray on leave, as
well as the scumbag police chief who lied about the cops
using the spray because they were surrounded by
protesters with no escape route, which obviously was not
the case. Now, *that's* reprehensible. She's also asked
the local DA to investigate, in addition to the internal
investigation she's ordered.

Some Nazi, eh?




  Anyone in that frame of mind should not have  responsibility for the 
well-being of thousands of students.  Happy Thanksgiving also to you and yours.
 
 On Nov 24, 2011, at 1:00 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
 
  Nazis? wtf?? Sorry, not buying it. I have heard and seen her interviewed 4 
  or 5 times and it just doesn't come across as a snow job. 
  
  Which Nazis by the way did you find particularly endearing, making me 
  possibly susceptible to their charms? And when is stuffing millions of 
  people into ovens the same as one dumbass cop pepper spraying students? You 
  sound pretty touchy Sal - perhaps even *out* of touch with reality. Please 
  enjoy your Thanksgiving anyway! :-)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
  
  On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:42 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
  
  It was an interesting article. I've heard the Chancellor interviewed here 
  on TV and radio a fair amount following the UC Davis debacle, and she 
  comes across to me anyway as genuinely concerned about this, beyond just 
  saying the right things. Seems like a decent enough soul in the middle of 
  a very ugly situation. 
  
  Then you would have been perfect bait for the Nazis, Jim.  A lot of 
  them came across as decent souls, too.  Wake up. Anyone can put on a 
  pious act for the cameras.  It's what they do that counts, and her actions 
  were reprehensible.  




[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread whynotnow7
Hi, there is a lot of misinformation out there. She said that, 1) she gave the 
order to evict the students in tents, and 2), very clearly she said that even 
if the pepper spraying was considered to be appropriate behavior, it was wrong 
and never sanctioned by her.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:

 Jim, I can't remember at this point which article claimed she was responsible 
 for giving the cops permission to use the spray.  But I do clearly remember 
 the articles pointing out that she was trying to make it seem as though the 
 students were holding her hostage right before she made her famous perp walk. 
  Anyone in that frame of mind should not have  responsibility for the 
 well-being of thousands of students.  Happy Thanksgiving also to you and 
 yours.
 
 On Nov 24, 2011, at 1:00 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
 
  Nazis? wtf?? Sorry, not buying it. I have heard and seen her interviewed 4 
  or 5 times and it just doesn't come across as a snow job. 
  
  Which Nazis by the way did you find particularly endearing, making me 
  possibly susceptible to their charms? And when is stuffing millions of 
  people into ovens the same as one dumbass cop pepper spraying students? You 
  sound pretty touchy Sal - perhaps even *out* of touch with reality. Please 
  enjoy your Thanksgiving anyway! :-)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
  
  On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:42 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
  
  It was an interesting article. I've heard the Chancellor interviewed here 
  on TV and radio a fair amount following the UC Davis debacle, and she 
  comes across to me anyway as genuinely concerned about this, beyond just 
  saying the right things. Seems like a decent enough soul in the middle of 
  a very ugly situation. 
  
  Then you would have been perfect bait for the Nazis, Jim.  A lot of 
  them came across as decent souls, too.  Wake up. Anyone can put on a 
  pious act for the cameras.  It's what they do that counts, and her actions 
  were reprehensible.  
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Stairway to Heaven - String Quartet

2011-11-24 Thread Emily Reyn


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qetvsoh0Dv4


[FairfieldLife] Bad Romance - Vitamin String Quartet

2011-11-24 Thread Emily Reyn


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyy1JNB7ejAfeature=related


[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread authfriend
Just to embarrass Sal a little further, from a story
in today's Sacramento Bee:


Katehi: Campus police were told not to use force against students

By Sam Stanton
sstan...@sacbee.com 
Last Modified: Thursday, Nov. 24, 2011 - 3:48 am

As the tent city on the University of California, Davis, tripled in size, 
Chancellor Linda P.B. Katehi insisted Tuesday that the school's police 
department defied her orders when it used force against students in last week's 
pepper-spray fiasco.

We told the police to remove the tents or the equipment, Katehi said in an 
interview with The Bee in her office inside the administration building, which 
remains locked down to the public.

We told them very specifically to do it peacefully, and if there were too many 
of them, not to do it, if the students were aggressive, not to do it. And then 
we told them we also do not want to have another Berkeley. 

In her most expansive comments since Friday's attempt to remove the tents 
spiraled into the pepper-spraying of students, Katehi said she still does not 
know who decided to use pepper spray and was stunned when she first saw video 
clips of it Friday night.

It looked horrible, horrific, I would say … ,  Katehi said. I can tell you 
that I woke up Saturday really early in the morning, like 3 a.m., and I felt 
like it was a disaster on our hands.

She also said she never would have approved the use of full-scale riot gear by 
officers sent in to remove the students and that Police Chief Annette Spicuzza 
was part of an emergency conference call before the incident.

We told her that it has to be peaceful, that anything else would not be 
acceptable, Katehi said one day after Spicuzza was placed on administrative 
leave along with two officers who used the pepper spray

Katehi said Spicuzza indicated Saturday that it was Lt. John Pike who decided 
to use the pepper spray.

I believe on Saturday when I spoke with her I said, 'What happened?'  Katehi 
said. She tried to explain that it was the decision of Lt. Pike

She has resisted [calls to resign] and met with student groups several times 
Tuesday, including an afternoon session at which she called for all charges 
against 10 individuals in Friday's incident – nine of them students – to be 
dropped.

She also said UC Davis and the UC system would cover all medical expenses 
incurred by students who were pepper-sprayed

After a Monday rally attended by thousands of students, faculty and others at 
which Katehi apologized, groups once again began to erect tents on the quad. By 
Tuesday, there were more than 75 tents, and Katehi said she would seek 
negotiations to coax them into leaving rather than take renewed police action.

Meanwhile, she has ordered police to remain ready to help campers if some sort 
of emergency arises, but to stay out of sight.

They are on call, but they are not visible, she said, adding that the school 
has brought in portable restrooms and is looking into providing facilities for 
food and drink to maintain a healthy environment

Read more:

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/23/4074993/katehi-campus-police-were-told.html#ixzz1eXUInSfb

http://tinyurl.com/cyr65xd


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:

 Jim, I can't remember at this point which article claimed she was responsible 
 for giving the cops permission to use the spray.  But I do clearly remember 
 the articles pointing out that she was trying to make it seem as though the 
 students were holding her hostage right before she made her famous perp walk. 
  Anyone in that frame of mind should not have  responsibility for the 
 well-being of thousands of students.  Happy Thanksgiving also to you and 
 yours.




[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:

 On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:42 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
 
  It was an interesting article. I've heard the Chancellor interviewed here 
  on TV and radio a fair amount following the UC Davis debacle, and she comes 
  across to me anyway as genuinely concerned about this, beyond just saying 
  the right things. Seems like a decent enough soul in the middle of a very 
  ugly situation. 
 
 Then you would have been perfect bait for the Nazis, Jim.  A lot of 
 them came across as decent souls, too.  Wake up. Anyone can put on a pious 
 act for the cameras.  It's  what they do that counts, and her actions were 
 reprehensible.  
 

Jim is awake, Sal. You're the one asleep, and too lazy as usual to actually 
exert a little brain power to find out that Katehi says she didn't order campus 
police to use pepper spray. It must really suck to wake up on the wrong side of 
the bed everyday feeling crabby and pissed off at the world, which by the way, 
is a tiresome, reprehensible characteristic of your personality. 

Katehi says she directed the police to remove tents but not make any arrests or 
use force.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2011/1123/Pepper-spray-explanation-doesn-t-wash-with-UC-Davis-students

At Katehi's request, the University of California is launching an independent 
investigation of the pepper spraying incident. An advisory panel of students, 
faculty, staff and other members of the UC community will review the report and 
make recommendations to preserve the safety of peaceful protesters. 

http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/news/2011/11/23/uc-davis-investigation-pepper-spray.html

I won't make a judgement on Katehi's actions until after the investigation. 
Given the recent use of pepper spray on protesters in other cities, maybe she 
should have specifically told campus police not to use pepper spray. Maybe she 
did and they ignored her orders. We won't know who said what until there's an 
investigation showing evidence of written memos or emails. 

I can only imagine how difficult it is for police to physically remove 
protesters who refuse to obey a order to disburse, but it's their job. They're 
trained to cuff-em and take them away without injuring them. Unfortunately, 
pepper spray seems to make police lazy about dealing with civil disobedience. 
It should never be used as long as protesters remain non-violent and pose no 
threat to the safety of the police. I hope this investigation puts a light on 
the apparent increase of unwarranted use of pepper spray on occupiers in many 
cities around the county. It's an an ugly police state tactic and must stop.

It's ironic that Katehi was a student at Athens Polytechnic in 1973 and there's 
a plaque on UC Davis campus in memory of the students killed at Athens 
Polytechnic November 17, 1973 by the military junta ruling Greece. She said she 
was there and will never forget it.

Raw Story had a link to youtube of Katehi's heartfelt apology to the students. 
She choked-up with emotion when she referenced the plaque on campus. Youtube 
has since banned the video and Raw Story no longer links to it. I don't know 
why.
http://bannedfromyoutube.com/watch_video.php?v=1HBWHXDD93RU  





[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread feste37


Poor old Sal must feel she's just been pepper-sprayed after all these posts 
pointing out her deficiencies as a poster on this forum. Sal has an interesting 
relationship with any reading matter that is set before her. She is quite 
capable of reading what is not there and not reading what is there. This 
results in some perverse judgements and posts that are close to absurd, not 
being related to anything that has actually been said. There is a glitch in the 
brain somewhere, it would seem.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
 
  On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:42 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
  
   It was an interesting article. I've heard the Chancellor interviewed here 
   on TV and radio a fair amount following the UC Davis debacle, and she 
   comes across to me anyway as genuinely concerned about this, beyond just 
   saying the right things. Seems like a decent enough soul in the middle of 
   a very ugly situation. 
  
  Then you would have been perfect bait for the Nazis, Jim.  A lot of 
  them came across as decent souls, too.  Wake up. Anyone can put on a 
  pious act for the cameras.  It's  what they do that counts, and her actions 
  were reprehensible.  
  
 
 Jim is awake, Sal. You're the one asleep, and too lazy as usual to actually 
 exert a little brain power to find out that Katehi says she didn't order 
 campus police to use pepper spray. It must really suck to wake up on the 
 wrong side of the bed everyday feeling crabby and pissed off at the world, 
 which by the way, is a tiresome, reprehensible characteristic of your 
 personality. 
 
 Katehi says she directed the police to remove tents but not make any arrests 
 or use force.
 
 http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2011/1123/Pepper-spray-explanation-doesn-t-wash-with-UC-Davis-students
 
 At Katehi's request, the University of California is launching an independent 
 investigation of the pepper spraying incident. An advisory panel of students, 
 faculty, staff and other members of the UC community will review the report 
 and make recommendations to preserve the safety of peaceful protesters. 
 
 http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/news/2011/11/23/uc-davis-investigation-pepper-spray.html
 
 I won't make a judgement on Katehi's actions until after the investigation. 
 Given the recent use of pepper spray on protesters in other cities, maybe she 
 should have specifically told campus police not to use pepper spray. Maybe 
 she did and they ignored her orders. We won't know who said what until 
 there's an investigation showing evidence of written memos or emails. 
 
 I can only imagine how difficult it is for police to physically remove 
 protesters who refuse to obey a order to disburse, but it's their job. 
 They're trained to cuff-em and take them away without injuring them. 
 Unfortunately, pepper spray seems to make police lazy about dealing with 
 civil disobedience. It should never be used as long as protesters remain 
 non-violent and pose no threat to the safety of the police. I hope this 
 investigation puts a light on the apparent increase of unwarranted use of 
 pepper spray on occupiers in many cities around the county. It's an an ugly 
 police state tactic and must stop.
 
 It's ironic that Katehi was a student at Athens Polytechnic in 1973 and 
 there's a plaque on UC Davis campus in memory of the students killed at 
 Athens Polytechnic November 17, 1973 by the military junta ruling Greece. She 
 said she was there and will never forget it.
 
 Raw Story had a link to youtube of Katehi's heartfelt apology to the 
 students. She choked-up with emotion when she referenced the plaque on 
 campus. Youtube has since banned the video and Raw Story no longer links to 
 it. I don't know why.
 http://bannedfromyoutube.com/watch_video.php?v=1HBWHXDD93RU





[FairfieldLife] The Reconnection - Injuries and disabilities healed

2011-11-24 Thread shainm307
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfszQgl9tBYfeature=youtu.be

It's a neat book I read about a year ago.  It talks about this guys story; it's 
pretty neat.  It also reconstructs people's DNA back to what it what it was a 
long time ago.



[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
snip
 I don't
 think she had any idea that the police were going to
 use excessive force on the protesters when she told them
 to remove the tents. 

I guess Judy thought each one should have been wrestled up individually by the 
police officers in spite of their own safety, after all it's not her well being 
that is at risk, (this is the way *ivory tower* intellectuals think).

BTW, Ms Police, use of force, expert, what should have the police done? Just 
curious Sarg.



[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread feste37


Although this is not addressed to me, I am going to respond. Peaceful 
protesters have been sitting down and linking arms time out of mind. If the 
police choose to arrest them, they usually just find a way of dragging them 
off, sometimes roughly, but without the kind of sickening violence displayed in 
the pepper-spraying incident. I found that video chilling and very disturbing 
to watch. That cop in riot gear, or whatever it was, sprayed those young people 
like they were insects or vermin. I think it was disgraceful, horrifying, 
utterly wrong.   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 snip
  I don't
  think she had any idea that the police were going to
  use excessive force on the protesters when she told them
  to remove the tents. 
 
 I guess Judy thought each one should have been wrestled up individually by 
 the police officers in spite of their own safety, after all it's not her well 
 being that is at risk, (this is the way *ivory tower* intellectuals think).
 
 BTW, Ms Police, use of force, expert, what should have the police done? 
 Just curious Sarg.





[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 
 
 Although this is not addressed to me, I am going to respond. Peaceful 
 protesters have been sitting down and linking arms time out of mind. If the 
 police choose to arrest them, they usually just find a way of dragging them 
 off, sometimes roughly, but without the kind of sickening violence displayed 
 in the pepper-spraying incident.

That's easy for you to say!! Hey Copper, go out there and risk your life, ah, 
don't worry about it, they look friendly!  What a joke!

Or, Be nice! You guys are too much!, can't stop laughing, (or crying).

Ohh, in case you didn't know, the Police have families too, who love them 
dearly. Please don't cavalierly suggest they do YOUR dirty work, while you 
watch and take pot shots! How Disgusting!


I found that video chilling and very disturbing to watch. That cop in riot 
gear, or whatever it was, sprayed those young people like they were insects or 
vermin. I think it was disgraceful, horrifying, utterly wrong.   
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  snip
   I don't
   think she had any idea that the police were going to
   use excessive force on the protesters when she told them
   to remove the tents. 
  
  I guess Judy thought each one should have been wrestled up individually by 
  the police officers in spite of their own safety, after all it's not her 
  well being that is at risk, (this is the way *ivory tower* intellectuals 
  think).
  
  BTW, Ms Police, use of force, expert, what should have the police done? 
  Just curious Sarg.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread feste37
I might have more sympathy with your argument if the police in this situation 
had been in any danger at all. I don't think they were risking their lives, 
as you put it, or anything close to it. I think it was the students who were 
putting themselves in a potentially dangerous situation, given the propensity 
of the police for excessive violence. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  
  
  Although this is not addressed to me, I am going to respond. Peaceful 
  protesters have been sitting down and linking arms time out of mind. If the 
  police choose to arrest them, they usually just find a way of dragging them 
  off, sometimes roughly, but without the kind of sickening violence 
  displayed in the pepper-spraying incident.
 
 That's easy for you to say!! Hey Copper, go out there and risk your life, 
 ah, don't worry about it, they look friendly!  What a joke!
 
 Or, Be nice! You guys are too much!, can't stop laughing, (or crying).
 
 Ohh, in case you didn't know, the Police have families too, who love them 
 dearly. Please don't cavalierly suggest they do YOUR dirty work, while you 
 watch and take pot shots! How Disgusting!
 
 
 I found that video chilling and very disturbing to watch. That cop in riot 
 gear, or whatever it was, sprayed those young people like they were insects 
 or vermin. I think it was disgraceful, horrifying, utterly wrong.   
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@ wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   snip
I don't
think she had any idea that the police were going to
use excessive force on the protesters when she told them
to remove the tents. 
   
   I guess Judy thought each one should have been wrestled up individually 
   by the police officers in spite of their own safety, after all it's not 
   her well being that is at risk, (this is the way *ivory tower* 
   intellectuals think).
   
   BTW, Ms Police, use of force, expert, what should have the police done? 
   Just curious Sarg.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 I might have more sympathy with your argument if the police in this situation 
 had been in any danger at all. I don't think they were risking their lives, 
 as you put it, or anything close to it. I think it was the students who were 
 putting themselves in a potentially dangerous situation, given the propensity 
 of the police for excessive violence. 

I think you said it yourself you don't think they were risking their lives 
but you didn't KNOW did YOU?? You can't run a police force under those 
conditions! Even if ONE of the dozen or so had a knife a police officer could 
have been killed!

I think YOU should have broken up that demonstration, what do you think about 
that? You ought to be kissing your lucky ass we have police that are willing to 
risk their lives every day for us.

PS It isn't a given that the police have a propensity for excessive violence, 
don't know where you got that given all the arrests that take place every day 
without incident. (another subject though)



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:14 PM, wgm4u anitaoak...@att.net wrote:

  I might have more sympathy with your argument if the police in this
 situation had been in any danger at all. I don't think they were risking
 their lives, as you put it, or anything close to it. I think it was the
 students who were putting themselves in a potentially dangerous situation,
 given the propensity of the police for excessive violence.

 I think you said it yourself you don't think they were risking their
 lives but you didn't KNOW did YOU?? You can't run a police force under
 those conditions! Even if ONE of the dozen or so had a knife a police
 officer could have been killed!

 I think YOU should have broken up that demonstration, what do you think
 about that? You ought to be kissing your lucky ass we have police that are
 willing to risk their lives every day for us.

 PS It isn't a given that the police have a propensity for excessive
 violence, don't know where you got that given all the arrests that take
 place every day without incident. (another subject though)


And we don't know about the sadistic, top dog attitude many men take into
the force, do we?   Ever talk to one of these beasts?   The women police
were very, very effective in the City of Austin as believe it or not, a
woman cop was able to cool down a situation before it became heated.
They, however, were driven off the force by their hang 'em high, Taser and
Mace 'em male counterparts.

I know of only two people who actually should be law enforcement.  One is a
retired sheriff for whatever country Albuquerque is in and the other is
current sheriff for Lampasas County, Texas.

I fondly remember what happened to the very large carpet which covered the
lobby area of 700 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston, MA.   These guys came in and
said they were there for the carpet.   The receptionist called Campus
Police, who provided enough manpower to get the carpet into the van.  End
of carpet.


[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread authfriend


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  I might have more sympathy with your argument if the
  police in this situation had been in any danger at all.
  I don't think they were risking their lives, as you
  put it, or anything close to it. I think it was the
  students who were putting themselves in a potentially
  dangerous situation, given the propensity of the
  police for excessive violence. 
 
 I think you said it yourself you don't think they were
 risking their lives but you didn't KNOW did YOU?? You
 can't run a police force under those conditions!

This is really just too hilarious. Can you *imagine* what
it would be like if the police didn't dare approach a
bunch of people without pepper-spraying them first, just
in case one of them was deranged and had a lethal weapon?
That's what BillyG is prescribing. As my mother would say,
he doesn't have any more sense than a bunny rabbit.





 Even if ONE of the dozen or so had a knife a police officer could have been 
killed!
 
 I think YOU should have broken up that demonstration, what do you think about 
 that? You ought to be kissing your lucky ass we have police that are willing 
 to risk their lives every day for us.
 
 PS It isn't a given that the police have a propensity for excessive 
 violence, don't know where you got that given all the arrests that take 
 place every day without incident. (another subject though)





[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread whynotnow7
This is another bit of misinformation that has leaked into this story, that the 
police were in danger because they were encircled by the protesters. What this 
tidbit leaves out is that the protesters encircling the police were sitting 
down, and the pepper spraying moron actually stepped over the protesters, to be 
outside the circle before he began spraying them. The police were never in any 
danger.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 snip
  I don't
  think she had any idea that the police were going to
  use excessive force on the protesters when she told them
  to remove the tents. 
 
 I guess Judy thought each one should have been wrestled up individually by 
 the police officers in spite of their own safety, after all it's not her well 
 being that is at risk, (this is the way *ivory tower* intellectuals think).
 
 BTW, Ms Police, use of force, expert, what should have the police done? 
 Just curious Sarg.





[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   I might have more sympathy with your argument if the
   police in this situation had been in any danger at all.
   I don't think they were risking their lives, as you
   put it, or anything close to it. I think it was the
   students who were putting themselves in a potentially
   dangerous situation, given the propensity of the
   police for excessive violence. 
  
  I think you said it yourself you don't think they were
  risking their lives but you didn't KNOW did YOU?? You
  can't run a police force under those conditions!
 
 This is really just too hilarious. Can you *imagine* what
 it would be like if the police didn't dare approach a
 bunch of people without pepper-spraying them first, just
 in case one of them was deranged and had a lethal weapon?
 That's what BillyG is prescribing. As my mother would say,
 he doesn't have any more sense than a bunny rabbit.

That's right Judy, that's what I am prescribing, every Police Officer should 
pepper spray any suspect before approaching them, regardless! (GMAB, I never 
suggested any such thing). 



[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 snip
  I don't
  think she had any idea that the police were going to
  use excessive force on the protesters when she told them
  to remove the tents. 
 
 I guess Judy thought each one should have been wrestled
 up individually by the police officers in spite of their
 own safety,

That's how they're supposed to do it, yes.

 after all it's not her well being that is at risk, (this
 is the way *ivory tower* intellectuals think).

Um, this is the way authorities on policing think, actually.
And BTW, I'm not paid to deal with protesters; the police
are. It's their job.

It's not just bad policing, it's against federal law to
use pepper spray against nonviolent protesters. See here:

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2011/11/16/211132/23




 
 BTW, Ms Police, use of force, expert, what should have the police done? 
 Just curious Sarg.





[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread wgm4u
Ya gotta love this Monday morning quarterbacking, Man, he should have thrown 
it there, he was wide open, what a dopeI'm going to bed, later!!!

BTW, that cop was decorated in the past for his heroic actions, hardly a maniac.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 This is another bit of misinformation that has leaked into this story, that 
 the police were in danger because they were encircled by the protesters. What 
 this tidbit leaves out is that the protesters encircling the police were 
 sitting down, and the pepper spraying moron actually stepped over the 
 protesters, to be outside the circle before he began spraying them. The 
 police were never in any danger.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  snip
   I don't
   think she had any idea that the police were going to
   use excessive force on the protesters when she told them
   to remove the tents. 
  
  I guess Judy thought each one should have been wrestled up individually by 
  the police officers in spite of their own safety, after all it's not her 
  well being that is at risk, (this is the way *ivory tower* intellectuals 
  think).
  
  BTW, Ms Police, use of force, expert, what should have the police done? 
  Just curious Sarg.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Blog about Maharishi

2011-11-24 Thread TimA
You're welcome.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TimA alejandro_ferrera44@
 wrote:
 
  Happy Thanksgiving to group members. You might enjoy reading a blog
 that contains beuatiful quotes by Maharishi on love and compassion, a
 poem about him, and an informative essay about the current quality of
 collective consciousness. It is at
 http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/. Hope you enjoy.
 
 
 Let us be in love with all around us. Let us in love resolve to be in
 love, for love is life, and certainly we do not want to step out of
 life. So let us in love resolve to remain in love and let us never step
 out of the boundaries of lovingness. For in love dwells the power of
 God, the power of creation, wisdom of life and the strength of all good.
 Certainly our life has to be all in love.
 
 
 
 Beautiful, thanks for posting this !





[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

2011-11-24 Thread whynotnow7
I didn't refer to him as a maniac, only as a moron, which seems like a good fit.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote:

 Ya gotta love this Monday morning quarterbacking, Man, he should have thrown 
 it there, he was wide open, what a dopeI'm going to bed, later!!!
 
 BTW, that cop was decorated in the past for his heroic actions, hardly a 
 maniac.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  This is another bit of misinformation that has leaked into this story, that 
  the police were in danger because they were encircled by the protesters. 
  What this tidbit leaves out is that the protesters encircling the police 
  were sitting down, and the pepper spraying moron actually stepped over the 
  protesters, to be outside the circle before he began spraying them. The 
  police were never in any danger.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@ wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   snip
I don't
think she had any idea that the police were going to
use excessive force on the protesters when she told them
to remove the tents. 
   
   I guess Judy thought each one should have been wrestled up individually 
   by the police officers in spite of their own safety, after all it's not 
   her well being that is at risk, (this is the way *ivory tower* 
   intellectuals think).
   
   BTW, Ms Police, use of force, expert, what should have the police done? 
   Just curious Sarg.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] The Smartest Turkey in the Room (was Music Video: Occupy the Future)

2011-11-24 Thread Bob Price


From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
snip

from over here in Pussiesland, it 
seems that the Repubs are beyond embarrassment. I had a 
chat over dinner the other night in which we all (3 
Americans, 1 Brit) agreed that the current crop of Repub 
Presidential hopefuls make Dubya look like a member of 
Mensa. One can only imagine who they'll be promoting in 
the next election.



Recently, a number of my fan club; a.k.a. the circular
firing squad, have pleaded with me to revert to writing, and slow down on the
pictures---some of which, they've been finding more than a tad challenging.
Though it's a surprising request, since looking at a picture---to decide if you
will ignore it or not---would appear to be so much faster, then reading an 
exceptionally
pithy piece of content---to decide if you will ignore it or not---but then,
there's no accounting for how challenging some pictures can be, I have decided
to acquiesce, since it's Thanksgiving, and give the fans what they want, and
since tomorrow is *Black Friday* (my favorite day of the year), I decided the
following story might be a good place to start. Unfortunately, I'll have to
keep it to less than 1500 words; I have a few of my own turkeys to finish 
seasoning.  

My Working title is: 

The Smartest Turkey in the Room;

Alternatively, I'm considering: 

Stranger Than Fiction or: 


How I Stopped Pepper Spraying Children and Learned to Love Seasoning Turkeys.



-

Daddy, why is that turkey so big.

OPPS; I'm getting a little a head of myself: Once upon a
time, there was a middle class family that lived in a middle class town, in the
middle of a country, called Fair to Middling (just kidding, it was
actually called Fairfield---just wanted to make sure I had your attention). 

The middle class family had just sat down to Thanksgiving dinner
when the little girl, staring at the 120 lb turkey, sitting in the middle of
the dining room table, asked:

Daddy, why is that turkey so big.

'That's an excellent question'. The Daddy answered.

Just then, the wife---who had just put the turkey on
the table, rolled her eyes, and looked at her watch; and then the Daddy began:







At a farm---in the middle of nowhere, there lived an
extended family of turkeys; it was an organic farm, and the turkeys were
allowed to roam the barnyard freely. There was one turkey; his name was King
Turkey, who loved to share his vast knowledge, and insights (as well as stories
about the famous and almost famous, he had met over the years) with the other
turkeys that were not nearly so fortunate in the area of firing synapses. The
King gave lectures everyday, to which the much less fortunate turkeys were
invited, but were told to keep quiet, particularly if they were women, or
intellectuals; there were a number of the less fortunate that never missed one
of King's talks; these regulars included a turkey named Sue as well
one named Kirkland, and another named Thelma P (no one ever figured out where
the P came from).  

King was very proud of his talks, many were about his
insights on television programs and movies he pirated off the Internet; the
fact many of them looked like home movies taken in China, during the cultural
revolution, didn't seem to be a problem for King, or his regulars; who liked to
be called The King's Regulars by the even less fortunate turkeys who
rarely showed up for the talks; that is except for a turkey named Bobsled (it 
was
assumed Bobsled was an Aquarius). For some odd reason, Bobsled, who was more
than a bit of a rabble-rouser, loved to make fun of King and his Regulars, and,
no matter how hard they tried, they couldn't get Bobsled to stay away from the
talks. As much as Bobsled's teasing bothered King, he knew he was on firm
ground because the farmers always gave him more feed than the Regulars or the
other less fortunate, and certainly a lot more than they gave the Bobsled;
who on a good day, was positively anorexic; so the King knew, eventually, the
Bobsled would fade to oblivion. 

One particularly painful incident happened when King brought
a map to one of his talks and explained to the enthralled Regulars that this
was a map of the universe and it showed that the barnyard was at its center,
which meant King was the center, of the center, of the universe.  Bobsled 
interrupted, and explained he
had seen a map just like Kings a few decades before about a tribe called Sloane
Rangers, and it showed Sloane Square, in Chelsea, London, as the center, and
since Bobsled had lived near Sloane Square, that made him the center, of the 
center, of the
universe. At this point Sue jumped in and quoted something she read that
supported King's position (in the universe), but when the Regulars asked Sue 
where
they could find the article, she couldn't remember; at this point Bobsled
started laughing so hard he fell into the pig pen and when he got out he
smelled so bad the rest of the turkeys liked to keep him 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Smartest Turkey in the Room (was Music Video: Occupy the Future)

2011-11-24 Thread Ravi Yogi
Awesome !!!

Happy thanksgiving to all.


On Nov 24, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 
 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 snip
 
 from over here in Pussiesland, it 
 seems that the Repubs are beyond embarrassment. I had a 
 chat over dinner the other night in which we all (3 
 Americans, 1 Brit) agreed that the current crop of Repub 
 Presidential hopefuls make Dubya look like a member of 
 Mensa. One can only imagine who they'll be promoting in 
 the next election.
 
 Recently, a number of my fan club; a.k.a. the circular
 firing squad, have pleaded with me to revert to writing, and slow down on the
 pictures---some of which, they've been finding more than a tad challenging.
 Though it's a surprising request, since looking at a picture---to decide if 
 you
 will ignore it or not---would appear to be so much faster, then reading an 
 exceptionally
 pithy piece of content---to decide if you will ignore it or not---but then,
 there's no accounting for how challenging some pictures can be, I have decided
 to acquiesce, since it's Thanksgiving, and give the fans what they want, and
 since tomorrow is *Black Friday* (my favorite day of the year), I decided the
 following story might be a good place to start. Unfortunately, I'll have to
 keep it to less than 1500 words; I have a few of my own turkeys to finish 
 seasoning.  
 
 My Working title is: 
 
 The Smartest Turkey in the Room;
 
 Alternatively, I'm considering: 
 
 Stranger Than Fiction or: 
 
 How I Stopped Pepper Spraying Children and Learned to Love Seasoning Turkeys.
 
 -
 
 Daddy, why is that turkey so big.
 
 OPPS; I'm getting a little a head of myself: Once upon a
 time, there was a middle class family that lived in a middle class town, in 
 the
 middle of a country, called Fair to Middling (just kidding, it was
 actually called Fairfield---just wanted to make sure I had your attention). 
 
 The middle class family had just sat down to Thanksgiving dinner
 when the little girl, staring at the 120 lb turkey, sitting in the middle of
 the dining room table, asked:
 
 Daddy, why is that turkey so big.
 
 'That's an excellent question'. The Daddy answered.
 
 Just then, the wife---who had just put the turkey on
 the table, rolled her eyes, and looked at her watch; and then the Daddy began:
 
 
 
 At a farm---in the middle of nowhere, there lived an
 extended family of turkeys; it was an organic farm, and the turkeys were
 allowed to roam the barnyard freely. There was one turkey; his name was King
 Turkey, who loved to share his vast knowledge, and insights (as well as 
 stories
 about the famous and almost famous, he had met over the years) with the other
 turkeys that were not nearly so fortunate in the area of firing synapses. The
 King gave lectures everyday, to which the much less fortunate turkeys were
 invited, but were told to keep quiet, particularly if they were women, or
 intellectuals; there were a number of the less fortunate that never missed one
 of King's talks; these regulars included a turkey named Sue as well
 one named Kirkland, and another named Thelma P (no one ever figured out where
 the P came from).  
 
 King was very proud of his talks, many were about his
 insights on television programs and movies he pirated off the Internet; the
 fact many of them looked like home movies taken in China, during the cultural
 revolution, didn't seem to be a problem for King, or his regulars; who liked 
 to
 be called The King's Regulars by the even less fortunate turkeys who
 rarely showed up for the talks; that is except for a turkey named Bobsled (it 
 was
 assumed Bobsled was an Aquarius). For some odd reason, Bobsled, who was more
 than a bit of a rabble-rouser, loved to make fun of King and his Regulars, 
 and,
 no matter how hard they tried, they couldn't get Bobsled to stay away from the
 talks. As much as Bobsled's teasing bothered King, he knew he was on firm
 ground because the farmers always gave him more feed than the Regulars or the
 other less fortunate, and certainly a lot more than they gave the Bobsled;
 who on a good day, was positively anorexic; so the King knew, eventually, the
 Bobsled would fade to oblivion. 
 
 One particularly painful incident happened when King brought
 a map to one of his talks and explained to the enthralled Regulars that this
 was a map of the universe and it showed that the barnyard was at its center,
 which meant King was the center, of the center, of the universe.  Bobsled 
 interrupted, and explained he
 had seen a map just like Kings a few decades before about a tribe called 
 Sloane
 Rangers, and it showed Sloane Square, in Chelsea, London, as the center, and
 since Bobsled had lived near Sloane Square, that made him the center, of the 
 center, of the
 universe. At this point Sue jumped in and quoted something she read that
 supported King's position (in the universe), but when the Regulars asked Sue 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Music Video: Occupy the Future

2011-11-24 Thread Bhairitu
On 11/23/2011 10:28 PM, raunchydog wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@...  wrote:
 This is my latest Captain Bebops video Occupy the Future:
 http://youtu.be/EuVxn0RdLNc

 Enjoy!

 Thanks for posting. I like that your characters are from all walks of life. 
 My favorite video on your channel is Night of the Dreadful Republicans Very 
 funny. What program did you use to make that?

This is another take off on Night of the Living Dead by JibJab who are 
pros at doing this (I'm just a hobbyist).  Quite funny.
Night of the Living Republicans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX8izgW4gi



[FairfieldLife] Re: Music Video: Occupy the Future

2011-11-24 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 11/23/2011 10:28 PM, raunchydog wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@  wrote:
  This is my latest Captain Bebops video Occupy the Future:
  http://youtu.be/EuVxn0RdLNc
 
  Enjoy!
 
  Thanks for posting. I like that your characters are from all walks of life. 
  My favorite video on your channel is Night of the Dreadful Republicans 
  Very funny. What program did you use to make that?
 
 This is another take off on Night of the Living Dead by JibJab who are 
 pros at doing this (I'm just a hobbyist).  Quite funny.
 Night of the Living Republicans:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX8izgW4gi


Your link doesn't work. 



[FairfieldLife] Flex your rights

2011-11-24 Thread raunchydog
Billy G, just in case you decide it would be fun to do some hippie punching at 
a peaceful occupy protest coming to your hometown soon and in the melee of mass 
arrests the police pepper spray you, here's what you should do: 

1. Remain calm even if your eyeballs feel on fire.

2. Don't scream. Politely say you wish to remain silent because the police can 
legally lie to use words and pleas for mercy against you.

3. You should also politely ask, Am I being detained, or am I free to go? If 
the officer says you are being detained, rather than WTF? say, What is the 
reasonable suspicion that you have to detain me?  

4. Never consent to searches. Simply say, I don't consent to a search. That 
won't stop police from finding the dogeared copy of Mein Kampf in your 
underwear, but asserting your 4th Amendment rights means that even if they find 
some pot, your lawyer has a better chance of getting charges against you 
dropped. 

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/05/flex-your-rights-the-top-3-things-to-do-in-every-police-encounter/



[FairfieldLife] Flex your rights

2011-11-24 Thread raunchydog
Billy G, just in case you decide it would be fun to do some hippie punching at 
a peaceful occupy protest coming to your hometown soon and in the melee of mass 
arrests the police pepper spray you, here's what you should do:

1. Remain calm even if your eyeballs feel on fire.

2. Don't scream. Politely say you wish to remain silent because the police can 
legally lie to use your words and pleas for mercy against you.

3. You should also politely ask, Am I being detained, or am I free to go? If 
the officer says you are being detained, rather than WTF? say, What is the 
reasonable suspicion that you have to detain me?

4. Never consent to searches. Simply say, I don't consent to a search. That 
won't stop police from finding the dog-eared copy of Mein Kampf in your 
underwear, but asserting your 4th Amendment rights means that even if they find 
some pot, your lawyer has a better chance of getting charges against you 
dropped.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/05/flex-your-rights-the-top-3-things-to-do-in-every-police-encounter/




[FairfieldLife] Flex your rights

2011-11-24 Thread raunchydog
Billy G, just in case you decide it would be fun to do some hippie punching at 
a peaceful occupy protest coming to your hometown soon and in the melee of mass 
arrests the police pepper spray you, here's what you should do:

1. Remain calm even if your eyeballs feel on fire.

2. Don't scream. Politely say you wish to remain silent. FYI the police can 
legally lie to use your words and pleas for mercy against you.

3. You should also politely ask, Am I being detained, or am I free to go? If 
the officer says you are being detained, rather than WTF? say, What is the 
reasonable suspicion that you have to detain me?

4. Never consent to searches. Simply say, I don't consent to a search. That 
won't stop police from finding the dog-eared copy of Mein Kampf in your 
underwear, but asserting your 4th Amendment rights means that even if they find 
some pot, your lawyer has a better chance of getting charges against you 
dropped.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/05/flex-your-rights-the-top-3-things-to-do-in\-every-police
 encounter/