[FairfieldLife] Virtue and freedom
Well, yes that being more than fair would be 'virtuous', less than fair would rank 'sinful'. That's classical and spiritually speaking in terms of Soul as self-evident, Man's free-will actions simply harmonize and strengthen the expressed essence of his soul perfection or weaken and degrade it into mortal enslavement. Support the FFL resolution on sin. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: *To the extent that MMY made assertions about the behavior of enlightened people--speaking the sweet truth and such--he contradicted himself. I assume he did so in an effort to encourage his students to behave in the manner he described. This might make for an interesting discussion if we could get off the stupid dime here of charges and countercharges. Speaking the sweet truth is a behavioral rasayana. By following the traditional values, of one's cultural heritage, Maharishi believed one's path in life presented fewer roadblocks to well being, good health and enlightenment. Behavioral rasyanas are universally fundamental to all human beings in all cultures. The behavioral rasyana map of a well traveled road describes the territory, not the consciousness of the traveler. Behaviors and attitudes to maximize: Love Compassion Speech that uplifts people Cleanliness Charity and regular donation Religious observance Respect toward teachers and elders Being positive Moderation and self-control, especially with regard to alcohol and sex Simplicity Behaviors and attitudes to be avoided: Anger Violence Harsh or hurtful speech Conceit Speaking ill of others behind their backs Egotism * Dishonesty Coveting another's spouse or wealth http://www.mapi.com/ayurveda_health_care/newsletters/behavioral_rasayana.html Behavioral rasyanas describe the basic rules of how we treat each other as human beings. A society devoid of such behaviors descends into chaos. FFLife is a chaotic antimatter smashing machine of behavioral rasyanas, cynically obliterating, ridiculing, any sacred cow daring to lift its head from grazing in the pastures of social convention. Other than no porn, you are free to be as abusive and as childish as you like on one day and a warrior for truth, justice and sacred cows the next day. I'm not holding myself up as a model of always treating everyone with absolute fairness. I don't, nobody does. I prefer less chaos and more fairness in how in how we treat each other on FFLife, I just don't expect it. IMO the folks who have a longer check list in the positive column of behavioral rasyanas are more capable of speaking the sweet truth. They consistently treat others fairly. Just as reliably, self-centered abusive assholes with a long list of behaviors in the negative column don't give a fuck about treating others respectfully and are incapable of speaking the sweet truth. So sayeth raunchydog, not so sweetly. Well, yes that being more than fair would be 'virtuous', less than fair would rank 'sinful'. That's classical and spiritually speaking in terms of Soul as self-evident, Man's free-will actions simply harmonize and strengthen the expressed essence of his soul perfection or weaken and degrade it into mortal enslavement.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Group rate for TM in US schools now $300/student for 10 months
Brain damage them while there'll still young and you'll have a TM-bot consumer for life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 8, 2012, at 9:01 PM, sparaig lengli...@cox.net wrote: http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/schools.html 10 month program costs $300 per student per 2000 students: $600,000 per school year. That's 1 teacher for every 200 students, including 10 month structured followup and the life-time free checking. That's a decent price, IMHO.
[FairfieldLife] Sizing a tiny pond: estimating the number of current TM meditators in the U.S.
The latest article at the TM-Free Blog: Crunching the Facebook Numbers: How Many Meditators Are There? http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2012/01/crunching-facebook-numbers-meditator\ s.html Excerpt: Through use of an advertising targeting tool on Facebook, it's possible to measure the popularity of a number of topics related to Transcendental Meditation across age groups, and thus extrapolate from that sampling of Facebook users to the general population. This method suggests that only about 60,000 people in the United States have any current interest in these topics, which is a tiny fraction of the one million meditators that the TM movement claims currently live in the United States.
[FairfieldLife] National Yagya program- taking two steps back
One step forward - over the past 5 years - was the restoration of the good name of TM - through the David Lynch Foundation. Taking Two steps back - http://www.nationalyagya.org/emailing/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: LOL.. Krishna's darling Gopi, Obba to the rescue. Had to bring pani, quench the wounds of the western ambush http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQMyGKj0Z4Y Everyone here supposedly uses false handles except perhaps for a few folks such as Rick, Bob and I. Usernames are a good thing, and I really am Obbajeeba. Yet these people go on and on with their inane discussions. OK yes I admit to having insulted the handles - curtisfeltablues and turquoiseb, shukra69..LOL.. The best of entertainment! Oh no curtisfeltablues wants to enter the high tech industry since the spare change he makes from his trailer trash, hillbilly music is not enough and Ravi Chivukula spread malicious lies on the handle curtisfeltablues..LOL.. If one has a slave job that the employers seek the wild west internet forums, then one should not use the Internet forums. This is the wild west and some people want to tame it to their slave conditionings? They are so attached to even the fake id's they create but it's all opinion, POV's as they say, no truth as curtisfeltablues and turquoiseb constantly remind us. Aah but why does it hurt so much. I think I really hit at curtisfeltablues's weaknesses, there's gotta be something more to this that he doesn't want to admit. Clearly there's more and he wants this discussion to end..:-) The mud slingin ain't comin from one direction, Paw. What I mean is ain't no truth comin from one side neither, right Paw? Yep, its in the brain, what ticks one off. What pathetic, false lives they live, false beliefs they insulate themselves. Well, ya know what? I think they be a lil rough around the edges from life taken a beaten on them, or bein conditioned to blame. Hypocrisy and ridiculousness rules supreme here. Yep, uh huh. Sure is thick around here and easy to spot. No wonder thems, theys thinks we are on teams. Them being the adversary to truth. Theys not wrong, jus don't see without the fog lifting once in while. You have cut the fog and it was clear before theys figur'd out what they woas lookin at. Kind of shockin to youngin souls, Ravi. The funniest thang would be all of us of FFL sittin at a round table, staring at each other face to face and I know you would lovingly embrace each and everyone of em, right Paw? You have heart. (;;;\/;;;) \;;/ \/ \;;/ \/ On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:50 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nice sunset, Ravi. But,I think you posted a lie. The lie is the sun has set and it not the same view as before since you posted this photo. So that is not telling the truth, because now is all that exists and you called that a sunset. No lying allowed on FFL. Nope. Everyone needs to just tell the truth. Name, birth date, social security numbers (those are supposed to be confidential, but credit card companies can use them now.) Driver's license numbers and insurance agent. Please give a detailed education background,including preschools attended. Mobil phone numbers are a must! Please show any and all medical records and all court orders on your profile, it is necessary as the wayback machine counsels you to do so http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F13urnxh3w4. The sun has not set, Ravi. Ravi shines from all locations from the center of our solar system. The rest of us only get to view his greatness as we spin around all crazy and such, thousands of miles per hour, no wonder our heads are spinning, thinking Ravi lies. : ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Sunset, Venice Beach Jan 8, 2011 http://www.flickr.com/photos/73243621@N07/6663473701 On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I even saw a couple of girls in bikinis, hello welcome to Southern California :-). I can for at least look past Ravi's unhealed personal wounds and share in the joy of families and couples around. I thought I would post out by Monday so I can focus on work. I clearly have failed :-) On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: OK cool. I have moved on, to the beach, to watch the beautiful Sunset. Living a block away from a crowded beach is such a pleasure. Love, Ravi On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Susan, I'm sorry why would Judy need to be accountable for anything. She knew exactly why I was intentionally lying. I acknowledged I was lying as well. Ok, but it would be simpler and certainly would be kinder not to lie to start with, even if you are replying to lies of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sizing a tiny pond: estimating the number of current TM meditators in the U.S.
On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Mike Doughney wrote: The latest article at the TM-Free Blog: Crunching the Facebook Numbers: How Many Meditators Are There? Excerpt: Through use of an advertising targeting tool on Facebook, it's possible to measure the popularity of a number of topics related to Transcendental Meditation across age groups, and thus extrapolate from that sampling of Facebook users to the general population. This method suggests that only about 60,000 people in the United States have any current interest in these topics, which is a tiny fraction of the one million meditators that the TM movement claims currently live in the United States. Well that just means there's 940,000 in recovery...
[FairfieldLife] Re: National Yagya program- taking two steps back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@... wrote: One step forward - over the past 5 years - was the restoration of the good name of TM - through the David Lynch Foundation. Taking Two steps back - http://www.nationalyagya.org/emailing/ I fail to see what's two steps back about it. If you really believe that uttering, or thinking, magical sounds makes things happen, then this is exactly where you end up. That belief is core doctrine in the TM movement. Pushing the saying of magic words by large groups as world-transforming, and raising money to outsource that task, is a consequence of that belief. From that perspective this sort of mailing is a Big Step Forward. Those of us who gave up on magic words as children are likely unimpressed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: LOL.. Krishna's darling Gopi, Obba to the rescue. Had to bring pani, quench the wounds of the western ambush http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQMyGKj0Z4Y Everyone here supposedly uses false handles except perhaps for a few folks such as Rick, Bob and I. Usernames are a good thing, and I really am Obbajeeba. Yet these people go on and on with their inane discussions. OK yes I admit to having insulted the handles - curtisfeltablues and turquoiseb, shukra69..LOL.. The best of entertainment! Oh no curtisfeltablues wants to enter the high tech industry since the spare change he makes from his trailer trash, hillbilly music is not enough and Ravi Chivukula spread malicious lies on the handle curtisfeltablues..LOL.. If one has a slave job that the employers seek the wild west internet forums, then one should not use the Internet forums. This is the wild west and some people want to tame it to their slave conditionings? They are so attached to even the fake id's they create but it's all opinion, POV's as they say, no truth as curtisfeltablues and turquoiseb constantly remind us. Aah but why does it hurt so much. I think I really hit at curtisfeltablues's weaknesses, there's gotta be something more to this that he doesn't want to admit. Clearly there's more and he wants this discussion to end..:-) The mud slingin ain't comin from one direction, Paw. What I mean is ain't no truth comin from one side neither, right Paw? Yep, its in the brain, what ticks one off. What pathetic, false lives they live, false beliefs they insulate themselves. Well, ya know what? I think they be a lil rough around the edges from life taken a beaten on them, or bein conditioned to blame. Hypocrisy and ridiculousness rules supreme here. Yep, uh huh. Sure is thick around here and easy to spot. No wonder thems, theys thinks we are on teams. Them being the adversary to truth. Theys not wrong, jus don't see without the fog lifting once in while. You have cut the fog and it was clear before theys figur'd out what they woas lookin at. Kind of shockin to youngin souls, Ravi. The funniest thang would be all of us of FFL sittin at a round table, staring at each other face to face and I know you would lovingly embrace each and everyone of em, right Paw? You have heart. (;;;\/;;;) \;;/ \/ \;;/ \/ Dang Paw! You'd think that was suppos'd to be a heart, above, but thems actually groups of divided CanCan dancers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCZs__8EnVE Sorry to confuse. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:50 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nice sunset, Ravi. But,I think you posted a lie. The lie is the sun has set and it not the same view as before since you posted this photo. So that is not telling the truth, because now is all that exists and you called that a sunset. No lying allowed on FFL. Nope. Everyone needs to just tell the truth. Name, birth date, social security numbers (those are supposed to be confidential, but credit card companies can use them now.) Driver's license numbers and insurance agent. Please give a detailed education background,including preschools attended. Mobil phone numbers are a must! Please show any and all medical records and all court orders on your profile, it is necessary as the wayback machine counsels you to do so http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F13urnxh3w4. The sun has not set, Ravi. Ravi shines from all locations from the center of our solar system. The rest of us only get to view his greatness as we spin around all crazy and such, thousands of miles per hour, no wonder our heads are spinning, thinking Ravi lies. : ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Sunset, Venice Beach Jan 8, 2011 http://www.flickr.com/photos/73243621@N07/6663473701 On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I even saw a couple of girls in bikinis, hello welcome to Southern California :-). I can for at least look past Ravi's unhealed personal wounds and share in the joy of families and couples around. I thought I would post out by Monday so I can focus on work. I clearly have failed :-) On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: OK cool. I have moved on, to the beach, to watch the beautiful Sunset. Living a block away from a crowded beach is such a pleasure. Love, Ravi On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trending Now
On Jan 7, 2012, at 5:48 PM, zarzari_786 wrote: So, for example, Barry is very often providing a bird eyes view, not getting into those nitpicking things, and he certainly reveals aspects that are true and valuable. But you don't get it, you concentrate only on the negatives. That he exaggerates and uses abusive or drastic language is not a secret, but yet, you do the same, once you 'recognize' someone as your adversary. Same with Vaj, he has a lot to give, in a certain way, given his background, he is more similar to me, but for you he is only a 'liar'. You are judgmental, negative and angry a lot of the time. You 'call out' people for things! WTF! What gives? How spiritual are you? What is this, all these judgments? This is the state of consciousness of a so-called feminist who supports the Quantum Patriarchal Vedic mindset. Imagine a self- proclaimed liberal who supports some of the most extreme right-wing slave monger's in human history, then you'll see the Real Judy. Such judgments are just part and parcel of her Patriarchal mindset.
[FairfieldLife] Re: National Yagya program- taking two steps back
Taking Two steps back... Mike Doughney: From that perspective this sort of mailing is a Big Step Forward. We are in the midst of a war against terrorism, with thousands dead, the rest of us worried about smallpox, anthrax, smuggled nukes, dirty nukes, truck-bombs, car-bombs, luggage-bombs and even shoe-bombs. But, Mike thinks that we should be worried about a David Lynch mailing. Puhleez!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Virtue and freedom
Well, yes that being more than fair would be 'virtuous', less than fair would rank 'sinful'. That's classical and spiritually speaking in terms of Soul as self-evident, Man's free-will actions simply harmonize and strengthen the expressed essence of his soul perfection or weaken and degrade it into mortal enslavement. Support the FFL resolution on sin. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: *To the extent that MMY made assertions about the behavior of enlightened people--speaking the sweet truth and such--he contradicted himself. I assume he did so in an effort to encourage his students to behave in the manner he described. This might make for an interesting discussion if we could get off the stupid dime here of charges and countercharges. Speaking the sweet truth is a behavioral rasayana. By following the traditional values, of one's cultural heritage, Maharishi believed one's path in life presented fewer roadblocks to well being, good health and enlightenment. Behavioral rasyanas are universally fundamental to all human beings in all cultures. The behavioral rasyana map of a well traveled road describes the territory, not the consciousness of the traveler. Spiritually virtuous Behaviors and attitudes to maximize: Love Compassion Speech that uplifts people Cleanliness Charity and regular donation Religious observance Respect toward teachers and elders Being positive Moderation and self-control, especially with regard to alcohol and sex Simplicity vs. Spiritually sinful Behaviors and attitudes to be avoided: Anger Violence Harsh or hurtful speech Conceit Speaking ill of others behind their backs Egotism * Dishonesty Coveting another's spouse or wealth http://www.mapi.com/ayurveda_health_care/newsletters/behavioral_rasayana.html Behavioral rasyanas describe the basic rules of how we treat each other as human beings. A society devoid of such behaviors descends into chaos. FFLife is a chaotic antimatter smashing machine of behavioral rasyanas, cynically obliterating, ridiculing, any sacred cow daring to lift its head from grazing in the pastures of social convention. Other than no porn, you are free to be as abusive and as childish as you like on one day and a warrior for truth, justice and sacred cows the next day. I'm not holding myself up as a model of always treating everyone with absolute fairness. I don't, nobody does. I prefer less chaos and more fairness in how in how we treat each other on FFLife, I just don't expect it. IMO the folks who have a longer check list in the positive column of behavioral rasyanas are more capable of speaking the sweet truth. They consistently treat others fairly. Just as reliably, self-centered abusive assholes with a long list of behaviors in the negative column don't give a fuck about treating others respectfully and are incapable of speaking the sweet truth. So sayeth raunchydog, not so sweetly. Well, yes that being more than fair would be 'virtuous', less than fair would rank 'sinful'. That's classical and spiritually speaking in terms of Soul as self-evident, Man's free-will actions simply harmonize and strengthen the expressed essence of his soul perfection or weaken and degrade it into mortal enslavement. Spiritually, it is an excellent moral lesson.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Shut the fuck up Stephen, you little bitch before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania. You never responded to the little assignment I gave you sly motherfucker. On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:59 PM, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: Rick Archer likes the controversy. At least Ravi has the excuse of being mentally ill. Vaj is just as slanderous but he acts maliciously and in bad faith. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I agree with Doug. Ravi's continual slanderous, obscenity-laden posts drag this forum down into the sewer. He should be expelled from this forum without delay. It is one thing to have serious, even angry disputes with people, but the other feuding parties here avoid excesses such as those demonstrated almost every day by Ravi. If the moderators have any respect for their own forum, they should take action on this issue. If Ravi wants to indulge in his absurd, offensive adolescent fantasies he should find another place to do it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Yep, I agree with Curtis here. What RaviC is doing here is sinful by resolution and no good for the community here. He is not contributing to the conversation but fishing it with this kind of spiritual abuse. As much as anything he is mocking Rick with this stuff. This is needless over the top abuse. The FFL list Moderators should unsubscribe this guy Ravi from FFL. The guy has fouled out, so to speak. Unsubscribe him now. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Scanning over the posts this morning was a little wake-up call. Imagine my surprise (second time use I know, so lamo but I'm just getting started here and I'm not warmed up creatively) to see this in the headers: but Steve not being a pervert like Curtis who used his power in a cult to prey on innocent women I gotta say for the first time in all the years posting here, I considered unlisting. Not because someone said something inflammatory and untrue about me, but this is a special case of Internet tolling. I have become a repetitive negative focus for someone and I really can't win here. The amount of energy such an individual can expend on such a malicious project is endless (within the 50 posts mercifully) So first thanks and props to Steve who gets that this could have an impact on me professionally, due to the amount of material being generated here. It makes me look like someone with a controversial past which is untrue. No matter how many times I post a rebuttal this will just stoke the enthusiasm for more posting. Flooding a forum like this will a lie repetitively is a power tactic for slander rewarded by search engines for anyone checking me out here. Being associated with a term like pervert is malicious. There is no way to reconcile my view in support of Internet freedom and particularly the freedom we enjoy here with limiting Ravi's right to make such repetitive posts. It could hurt me although to chances of that seem small at
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
This might make for an interesting discussion if we could get off the stupid dime... raunchydog: Speaking the sweet truth is a behavioral rasayana... When mental activity disappears, then knower, knowing and known become merged one into another, just like a transparent crystal which assumes the appearance of that upon which it rests. - Pantanjali (Yoga Sutras I.41)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Statement concerning Ravi's posts about Curtis
obbajeeba: Yes, first they came for our dome badges, but no one noticed. Then they came for our Saints, but no one noticed. Then they came for our Jyotish Pandits, but no one noticed. Then they came for every spiritual faceted forum and everyone jumps on a band wagon to shoot the messenger!!! This is a very insightful observation. So, I would like to nominate obbajeeba's message as FFL 'Post of the Week'.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Virtue and freedom
Well, yes that being more than fair would be 'virtuous', less than fair would rank 'sinful'. That's classical and spiritually speaking in terms of Soul as self-evident, Man's free-will actions simply harmonize and strengthen the expressed essence of his soul perfection or weaken and degrade it into mortal enslavement. Call it what you like, the good, the fair, the just etc. of antiquity. Yup, but essentially it is virtuous vs. sinful on a spiritual scale of 'life-supporting'. Support the FFL resolution on sin. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: *To the extent that MMY made assertions about the behavior of enlightened people--speaking the sweet truth and such--he contradicted himself. I assume he did so in an effort to encourage his students to behave in the manner he described. This might make for an interesting discussion if we could get off the stupid dime here of charges and countercharges. Speaking the sweet truth is a behavioral rasayana. By following the traditional values, of one's cultural heritage, Maharishi believed one's path in life presented fewer roadblocks to well being, good health and enlightenment. Behavioral rasyanas are universally fundamental to all human beings in all cultures. The behavioral rasyana map of a well traveled road describes the territory, not the consciousness of the traveler. Spiritually virtuous Behaviors and attitudes to maximize: Love Compassion Speech that uplifts people Cleanliness Charity and regular donation Religious observance Respect toward teachers and elders Being positive Moderation and self-control, especially with regard to alcohol and sex Simplicity vs. Spiritually sinful Behaviors and attitudes to be avoided: Anger Violence Harsh or hurtful speech Conceit Speaking ill of others behind their backs Egotism * Dishonesty Coveting another's spouse or wealth http://www.mapi.com/ayurveda_health_care/newsletters/behavioral_rasayana.html Behavioral rasyanas describe the basic rules of how we treat each other as human beings. A society devoid of such behaviors descends into chaos. FFLife is a chaotic antimatter smashing machine of behavioral rasyanas, cynically obliterating, ridiculing, any sacred cow daring to lift its head from grazing in the pastures of social convention. Other than no porn, you are free to be as abusive and as childish as you like on one day and a warrior for truth, justice and sacred cows the next day. I'm not holding myself up as a model of always treating everyone with absolute fairness. I don't, nobody does. I prefer less chaos and more fairness in how in how we treat each other on FFLife, I just don't expect it. IMO the folks who have a longer check list in the positive column of behavioral rasyanas are more capable of speaking the sweet truth. They consistently treat others fairly. Just as reliably, self-centered abusive assholes with a long list of behaviors in the negative column don't give a fuck about treating others respectfully and are incapable of speaking the sweet truth. So sayeth raunchydog, not so sweetly. Well, yes that being more than fair would be 'virtuous', less than fair would rank 'sinful'. That's classical and spiritually speaking in terms of Soul as self-evident, Man's free-will actions simply harmonize and strengthen the expressed essence of his soul perfection or weaken and degrade it into mortal enslavement. Spiritually, it is an excellent moral lesson.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Don't play games with the mad intelligence of this Telugu Brahmin, OK? Mad intelligence is an oxymoron Ravi; nor does it correspond with the characteristics of enlightenment, at least in the sense of behaviours that are traditionally associated with this term. Apparently you wish to have, instead of acquaintances and friends, enemies. MAD - Mentally ill; insane Extremely foolish or ill-advised In a frenzied mental or physical state Very angry (of a dog) Rabid
[FairfieldLife] Re: Virtue and freedom
Well, yes that being more than fair would be 'virtuous', less than fair would rank 'sinful'. That's classical and spiritually speaking in terms of Soul as self-evident, Man's free-will actions simply harmonize and strengthen the expressed essence of his soul perfection or weaken and degrade it into mortal enslavement. Yep practically, there is virtuous life that is Good for the energy system Spiritually. And then that sinful life, crippling and denigrating to the subtle spiritual bio-physiologic energy system. Call it what you like, the good, the fair, the just etc. of antiquity. Yup, but essentially it is virtuous vs. sinful on a spiritual scale of 'life-supporting'. Support the FFL resolution on sin. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: *To the extent that MMY made assertions about the behavior of enlightened people--speaking the sweet truth and such--he contradicted himself. I assume he did so in an effort to encourage his students to behave in the manner he described. This might make for an interesting discussion if we could get off the stupid dime here of charges and countercharges. Speaking the sweet truth is a behavioral rasayana. By following the traditional values, of one's cultural heritage, Maharishi believed one's path in life presented fewer roadblocks to well being, good health and enlightenment. Behavioral rasyanas are universally fundamental to all human beings in all cultures. The behavioral rasyana map of a well traveled road describes the territory, not the consciousness of the traveler. Spiritually virtuous Behaviors and attitudes to maximize: Love Compassion Speech that uplifts people Cleanliness Charity and regular donation Religious observance Respect toward teachers and elders Being positive Moderation and self-control, especially with regard to alcohol and sex Simplicity vs. Spiritually sinful Behaviors and attitudes to be avoided: Anger Violence Harsh or hurtful speech Conceit Speaking ill of others behind their backs Egotism * Dishonesty Coveting another's spouse or wealth http://www.mapi.com/ayurveda_health_care/newsletters/behavioral_rasayana.html Behavioral rasyanas describe the basic rules of how we treat each other as human beings. A society devoid of such behaviors descends into chaos. FFLife is a chaotic antimatter smashing machine of behavioral rasyanas, cynically obliterating, ridiculing, any sacred cow daring to lift its head from grazing in the pastures of social convention. Other than no porn, you are free to be as abusive and as childish as you like on one day and a warrior for truth, justice and sacred cows the next day. I'm not holding myself up as a model of always treating everyone with absolute fairness. I don't, nobody does. I prefer less chaos and more fairness in how in how we treat each other on FFLife, I just don't expect it. IMO the folks who have a longer check list in the positive column of behavioral rasyanas are more capable of speaking the sweet truth. They consistently treat others fairly. Just as reliably, self-centered abusive assholes with a long list of behaviors in the negative column don't give a fuck about treating others respectfully and are incapable of speaking the sweet truth. So sayeth raunchydog, not so sweetly. Well, yes that being more than fair would be 'virtuous', less than fair would rank 'sinful'. That's classical and spiritually speaking in terms of Soul as self-evident, Man's free-will actions simply harmonize and strengthen the expressed essence of his soul perfection or weaken and degrade it into mortal enslavement. Spiritually, it is an excellent moral lesson.
[FairfieldLife] The January 12th Meditation
In particular I would like to suggest that we celebrate Maharishi in the best possible way by having every Meditator in Fairfield at group program on both the morning and evening of January 12th. -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] All FF Satsangs: Maharisihi's Birthday Meditations
Please forward this to all satsangs... Maharishi's Birthday Meditations. In Fairfield. In particular I would like to suggest that we celebrate Maharishi in the best possible way by having every Meditator in Fairfield at group programs on both the morning and evening of January 12th.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Review: Tinkers, Tailors, Soldiers, Spies
For Heaven's sake . . ,Once sensed, this frog jumped out of the hotpot: Tinker, Tailor,Soldier, Sailor,Rich Man, Poor Man.Beggar Man, Thief Kant weight to see it- [:D] was my first reaction to Turquoiseb almost forgotten not responded- Tatoo-overshadowed-review. After seeing it, meru, leaning on his danda, had the impression Turquoiseb had something else to hint to, to another kind of night unto heresy [;)] : You could almost feel and smell and taste the loss and emptiness of the world of the Cold War Era as well as remember, behind a frozen ice-flowers-window-crystal, the hijacking of the mole hysteria by the political system then in the Real and mirroring hijacking the whack-a-mole hysteria by and among the self proclaimed TMO pundit(ry) for their own personal gain and power mimicry game. Watching it brings a lot of baggage along with may be many TM oldsters here at FFL -- to this revisit of the Cold War great retelling of an enduring story of treachery and betrayal by those wanna be's you trusted and looked up to. This film is a ghost film.--- Reality check: Tinker, Tailor is partly based on the case of Kim Philby, who were recruited by the Soviets in the 1930s. (Mr. le Carré, born David John Moore Cornwell, was a British spy whose cover was blown by Philby.1979, Sir Alec's image bore quiet resemblance to Peter, Lord Carrington, Foreign Secretary in the first Cabinet of Margaret Thatcher) --TMO in the end 70s?...let me check the progress of the Adoptive Admissions message/300982 discussion. [:D] Tinker, Tailor: Details and emphasis has changed,350 hours simplified to only 2 hours,Hungary instead of Czechoslovakia ,Guinness's turn is the Torah; Mr. Oldman's the Talmud, but wisely it doesn't reinvent Smiley as hinted in an early scene of Smiley buying the kind of oversize eyeglasses that Guinness wore. Beside the subtitle overgeneralization joke before and Turquoiseb laudatio for Swedish some may still ask, why remakes?and Mr Smiley-esk answer: good screen writing is an oxymoron and paraphrase Pete Seeger, Where have all the writers gone?-- Be aware of the impressive addition of the cinematically rich Christmas party sequence which IMHO fleshed out the plot and characters very effectively: For the eagle eyed viewer, John le Carre, the author of the books, appears in the Christmas party scene Has sombody interviewed him yet? PSswinging the other way. Here we may say every generation is entitled to a chance to update the classics. Even Olivier's Richard IIIdid not discourage McKellen and Spacey and his performance hasn't been 5 years ago IMHO great le Carré movie was The Spy Who Came In From the Cold. It is a simpler story with shocking insights into the real spy game, and Richard Burton, Claire Bloom, and my beloved Oskar Werner were unforgetable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: As with my review yesterday of The Girls with the Dragon Tattoos, this is really a review of two versions of the same story. In yesterday's episode of Unasked-For Film Reviews For An Audience Who Will Probably Never Watch The Films Being Reviewed :-), I came down firmly on the side of the older version being better. In today's episode, strangely enough, I'm swinging the other way. And that is nigh unto heresy, if you know the original BBC TV series made of Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy in 1979. That version starred Sir Alec Guinness as George Smiley, and his performance in it is often referred to (and rightly) as one of the pinnacles of his illustrious career. So my preference for this new version should in no way be construed to mean that I prefer Gary Oldman's performance to Alec Guinness' in the same role. That's not the issue. It's that the STORYTELLING of the new version of the film is better than the storytelling of the older version. It's simply a better movie, on almost all counts. The reason for this IMO is that they hired Tomas Alfredson (the Swedish director of Let The Right One In) to helm the making of this movie version, and hired two talented writers (one of whom died during the production) to pen it. And the three of them done good. Real good. With only 127 minutes in which to tell their story, they did a better job than the best BBC directors and writers of their era were able to do with the same story in seven hours. The plot is as classic an example of Cold War Spy Storytelling now as it was when John Le Carré penned it. Control (head of the British Secret Service, played in this film by John Hurt) learns to his dismay that there may be a mole in the top echelons of the Circus. He sends an operative to Budapest to find out who it is, but that operation turns disastrously and publicly sour, and Control is forced to resign, taking his top aide George Smiley with him. Fast forward a couple of years, and the notion that there is a mole resurfaces. Control has died and the four people he suspected are now in
[FairfieldLife] Re: Virtue and freedom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Call it what you like, the good, the fair, the just etc. of antiquity. Yup, but essentially it is virtuous vs. sinful on a spiritual scale of 'life-supporting'. The opposite of virtue is vice, not sin. A religious person might call vice 'sin', but 'sin' is not recognised outside of religious thought. For example, in the Torah, the tablets of the ten commandments were destroyed. God then replaced them. Except the commandments on the new tablets were different, e.g., 'Thou shalt not boil a calf in its mothers milk' was one of the restored commandments. Few today would call boiling a calf this way a sin. Vegetarians and animal lovers maybe. An atheist might get enlightened, but would not give any value to the word sin as he/she moved 'up' on the 'spiritual scale'. 'Spiritual scales' seem to be devices by which one can manipulate the emotive behaviour of another by comparing them to the scale, relying on such a person's emotional immaturity and weakness to nudge or browbeat them into submission. This is the opposite of the technique for transcending, which is to gently let go. The unified field is everything. If you want to know what god wants, just watch what happens in the universe at large. Sin is either meaningless as a concept or it must be a property of god. Someone once asked Maharishi where bad thoughts came from, presumably since thought arises out of the 'field of pure intelligence'. His answer was such a thought was 'rotten to the core'. If you want to bring sin as a concept into the game of enlightenment, you have a lose-lose situation especially in the modern Western world where traditional religious sentiment is slipping. Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? --Epicurius (b.341 BCE)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Virtue and freedom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Call it what you like, the good, the fair, the just etc. of antiquity. Yup, but essentially it is virtuous vs. sinful on a spiritual scale of 'life-supporting'. The opposite of virtue is vice, not sin. A religious person might call vice 'sin', but 'sin' is not recognised outside of religious thought. For example, in the Torah, the tablets of the ten commandments were destroyed. God then replaced them. Except the commandments on the new tablets were different, e.g., 'Thou shalt not boil a calf in its mothers milk' was one of the restored commandments. Few today would call boiling a calf this way a sin. Vegetarians and animal lovers maybe. An atheist might get enlightened, but would not give any value to the word sin as he/she moved 'up' on the 'spiritual scale'. 'Spiritual scales' seem to be devices by which one can manipulate the emotive behaviour of another by comparing them to the scale, relying on such a person's emotional immaturity and weakness to nudge or browbeat them into submission. This is the opposite of the technique for transcending, which is to gently let go. The unified field is everything. If you want to know what god wants, just watch what happens in the universe at large. Sin is either meaningless as a concept or it must be a property of god. No it need be neither necessarily, people knows it when they sees it too. Commonly. These rasyannas are fairly universal codes are good examples. And then you might have some asocial (sinful as we are defining more spiritually) person come along in the extreme who clearly needs to be banished or separated off (prison?) from folks in more civic virtue. Like this guy Ravi here, except that the community here as formed does not have a way to protect itself without Rick stepping in. Most civil societies separate off the asocial to protect themselves. This community evidently is being held hostage by sinful disgrace. Someone once asked Maharishi where bad thoughts came from, presumably since thought arises out of the 'field of pure intelligence'. His answer was such a thought was 'rotten to the core'. If you want to bring sin as a concept into the game of enlightenment, you have a lose-lose situation especially in the modern Western world where traditional religious sentiment is slipping. Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? --Epicurius (b.341 BCE)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Virtue and freedom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: snip For example, in the Torah, the tablets of the ten commandments were destroyed. God then replaced them. Except the commandments on the new tablets were different, e.g., 'Thou shalt not boil a calf in its mothers milk' was one of the restored commandments. Nitpick: As I understand it, although this one was included in the Covenant Code given to Moses by God at Sinai along with the tablets, it was not one of the Ten engraved on either set of tablets. It appears in Exodus 23:19 as one of the many laws of Kashrut; also in Exodus 34:26 and Deuteronomy 14:21: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_and_meat_in_Jewish_law The Ten Commandments are listed in Exodus 20:2-17 and Deuteronomy 5:6-21. The commandments in each are the same, just worded slightly differently: http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ten_Commandments But I don't believe the two listings represent the two sets of tablets; as far as I can determine without looking up the context, they're just two different wordings of the final Ten. Apparently some biblical scholars maintain that the Covenant Code was originally said to have been on the tablets, but by the time the text was finalized, it no longer was. The history is complicated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_code
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Raunchy caught some fire I remember, and she fired right back in her usual entertaining way. I don't know who you are talking about that needs protection. I see a lot of people who deserve what he dishes out and sometimes, even when it seems prematurely harsh at first, his analysis of new posters ends up seeming prescient in retrospect. This is an interesting comment, Curtis. I own up to my occasional harshness, but I also think I've been, as you say, nigh-unto-prescient about some of the posters on this forum. The reason is that what I look for is not what the posters in question are saying in words, but what the *intent* seems to be behind those words -- WHY they're saying it in the first place. Several new arrivals in the last year or so have instantly struck me as being in it for the attention. Their whole act from the first moment they appeared reeked of what I call attention vampirism. When I see that, my first reaction is to try not to give them any. When they then add mentally ill into the mix, I try to avoid them entirely. One of the things that I think distinguishes my comments from others here is that I tend to focus on the forest and not on individual trees. I spot TRENDS. Many of the people I end up criticizing (and yes, sometimes harshly) don't seem to be able to do that. They get so focused on the moment, and the putdown or gotcha they're trying to achieve *in* that moment that they lose sight of the fact that they have run the exact same gotcha number dozens of times in the last couple of months. The routine never changes, only the particulars. Becoming obsessed with another poster, to the point of not even being able to *realize* that one has become obsessed, does not strike me as sane behavior. Being literally *unable* to control oneself, and compelled to keep playing gotcha even if it means one has to post out to do so does not strike me as sane behavior. Writing tens of thousands of words trying desperately to get someone to argue with you who has said he has no interest in arguing with you does not strike me as sane behavior. Writing like one is trying to demonstrate the textbook definition of hypomania does not strike me as sane behavior. In short, a few people on this forum strike me as not sane. I have chosen to ignore them, and what they write. They have chosen to keep attacking me, and to expand their attacks to anyone who either agrees with me or admits to liking some of the things I write. They seem to feel that this is both justified, and rational. But again, it does not strike me as sane behavior.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Don't play games with the mad intelligence of this Telugu Brahmin, OK? Mad intelligence is an oxymoron Ravi; nor does it correspond with the characteristics of enlightenment, at least in the sense of behaviours that are traditionally associated with this term. Apparently you wish to have, instead of acquaintances and friends, enemies. MAD - Mentally ill; insane Extremely foolish or ill-advised In a frenzied mental or physical state Very angry (of a dog) Rabid As well as the following (from Merriam-Webster's 11th Collegiate edition): --carried away by enthusiasm or desire --marked by wild gaiety and merriment: HILARIOUS --marked by intense and often chaotic activity: WILD Just sayin'...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Virtue and freedom
Om, if you only knew. It is way more than 'transcending'. Spiritually sin is what it is in the subtle bodies. The life lived. These lists are pretty good in enumerating the parameters between virtuous and sinful practices. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Call it what you like, the good, the fair, the just etc. of antiquity. Yup, but essentially it is virtuous vs. sinful on a spiritual scale of 'life-supporting'. The opposite of virtue is vice, not sin. A religious person might call vice 'sin', but 'sin' is not recognised outside of religious thought. For example, in the Torah, the tablets of the ten commandments were destroyed. God then replaced them. Except the commandments on the new tablets were different, e.g., 'Thou shalt not boil a calf in its mothers milk' was one of the restored commandments. Few today would call boiling a calf this way a sin. Vegetarians and animal lovers maybe. An atheist might get enlightened, but would not give any value to the word sin as he/she moved 'up' on the 'spiritual scale'. 'Spiritual scales' seem to be devices by which one can manipulate the emotive behaviour of another by comparing them to the scale, relying on such a person's emotional immaturity and weakness to nudge or browbeat them into submission. This is the opposite of the technique for transcending, which is to gently let go. The unified field is everything. If you want to know what god wants, just watch what happens in the universe at large. Sin is either meaningless as a concept or it must be a property of god. Someone once asked Maharishi where bad thoughts came from, presumably since thought arises out of the 'field of pure intelligence'. His answer was such a thought was 'rotten to the core'. If you want to bring sin as a concept into the game of enlightenment, you have a lose-lose situation especially in the modern Western world where traditional religious sentiment is slipping. Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? --Epicurius (b.341 BCE)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Virtue and freedom
I do find Ravi particularly annoying, but I have the choice (in free-will terms) to ignore him. Any power he has over us is largely determined by our response, except in the case of Curtis perhaps because of informational ties to the world outside of this forum, and Curtis seems to be able to modulate his response emotionally so his reaction is not a knee jerk - he seems to have a strategy in mind. Society always segregates out those that do not go with the general flow of thought. The forum is rather democratic but there are always flaws in the systems of administration that let outliers through. It is difficult to protect oneself from outright falsehoods. It is the opposite of science where instead of having to demonstrate that what you say is true, you have a situation where you have to deny and somehow disprove something never happened which others have come believe in the absence of direct evidence. 'Have you stopped beating your wife?' In a courtroom there is a rule there, in that it was never established that wife beating ever occurred, and the judge will intervene, but in the mind of the public, which is not always that bright, such a ruse might be taken as truth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Call it what you like, the good, the fair, the just etc. of antiquity. Yup, but essentially it is virtuous vs. sinful on a spiritual scale of 'life-supporting'. The opposite of virtue is vice, not sin. A religious person might call vice 'sin', but 'sin' is not recognised outside of religious thought. For example, in the Torah, the tablets of the ten commandments were destroyed. God then replaced them. Except the commandments on the new tablets were different, e.g., 'Thou shalt not boil a calf in its mothers milk' was one of the restored commandments. Few today would call boiling a calf this way a sin. Vegetarians and animal lovers maybe. An atheist might get enlightened, but would not give any value to the word sin as he/she moved 'up' on the 'spiritual scale'. 'Spiritual scales' seem to be devices by which one can manipulate the emotive behaviour of another by comparing them to the scale, relying on such a person's emotional immaturity and weakness to nudge or browbeat them into submission. This is the opposite of the technique for transcending, which is to gently let go. The unified field is everything. If you want to know what god wants, just watch what happens in the universe at large. Sin is either meaningless as a concept or it must be a property of god. No it need be neither necessarily, people knows it when they sees it too. Commonly. These rasyannas are fairly universal codes are good examples. And then you might have some asocial (sinful as we are defining more spiritually) person come along in the extreme who clearly needs to be banished or separated off (prison?) from folks in more civic virtue. Like this guy Ravi here, except that the community here as formed does not have a way to protect itself without Rick stepping in. Most civil societies separate off the asocial to protect themselves. This community evidently is being held hostage by sinful disgrace. Someone once asked Maharishi where bad thoughts came from, presumably since thought arises out of the 'field of pure intelligence'. His answer was such a thought was 'rotten to the core'. If you want to bring sin as a concept into the game of enlightenment, you have a lose-lose situation especially in the modern Western world where traditional religious sentiment is slipping. Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? --Epicurius (b.341 BCE)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Don't play games with the mad intelligence of this Telugu Brahmin, OK? Mad intelligence is an oxymoron Ravi; nor does it correspond with the characteristics of enlightenment, at least in the sense of behaviours that are traditionally associated with this term. Apparently you wish to have, instead of acquaintances and friends, enemies. MAD - Mentally ill; insane Extremely foolish or ill-advised In a frenzied mental or physical state Very angry (of a dog) Rabid As well as the following (from Merriam-Webster's 11th Collegiate edition): --carried away by enthusiasm or desire --marked by wild gaiety and merriment: HILARIOUS --marked by intense and often chaotic activity: WILD Just sayin'... Yes, I did not list all definitions, but Ravi seems a bit over the top here lately. Would there be an improvement in the world if Ravi were president of Iran?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
On Jan 9, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: Yes, I did not list all definitions, but Ravi seems a bit over the top here lately. Would there be an improvement in the world if Ravi were president of Iran? Doubtful: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sohamsa/message/22853
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Don't play games with the mad intelligence of this Telugu Brahmin, OK? Mad intelligence is an oxymoron Ravi; nor does it correspond with the characteristics of enlightenment, at least in the sense of behaviours that are traditionally associated with this term. Apparently you wish to have, instead of acquaintances and friends, enemies. MAD - Mentally ill; insane Extremely foolish or ill-advised In a frenzied mental or physical state Very angry (of a dog) Rabid As well as the following (from Merriam-Webster's 11th Collegiate edition): --carried away by enthusiasm or desire --marked by wild gaiety and merriment: HILARIOUS --marked by intense and often chaotic activity: WILD Just sayin'... Yes, I did not list all definitions Right, only the negative ones. Just thought I'd add some more positive (or less negative) ones for balance. Which definition do you think Ravi had in mind? , but Ravi seems a bit over the top here lately. That he does. Over the top: --beyond the bounds of what is expected, usual, normal, or appropriate There's also the Crazy Wisdom tradition, as you most likely know; and the Advahuts zarzari talks about. Would there be an improvement in the world if Ravi were president of Iran? ??? Dumb question, Xeno.
[FairfieldLife] TM gets product placement on Showtime
On Showtime's Californication starting here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=XEbcuxuDYV4#t=1099s http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=XEbcuxuDYV4#t=1099s Whole show (though very censored) here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEbcuxuDYV4 Don Cheadle's new show was so-so as was the first episode of the second season of Shameless. In spite of Bill Macy I have watched the original British series and liked it more.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Review: Tinkers, Tailors, Soldiers, Spies
Nice rap. Nice insight about the Christmas party and its use throughout the film; that was a stroke of directorial and screenwriting genius. Nice catch of le Carre as one of the party guests; I missed that entirely. And *very* nice trivia about how le Carre was actually outed by Kim Philby; this novel was *personal* for him, and it shows. But back to the film... In terms of filmic people to watch, I think Tomas Alfredson just jumped to the top of my list. I thought that Let The Right One In was a remarkable film, a true work of art. But that was still a small Swedish film, one that really wasn't expected to be seen anywhere outside Sweden. Surprise. It became a worldwide phenomenon, and inspired an American remake that -- another surprise -- didn't suck. Matt Reeves took Alfredson's original vision and ran with it, creating an equally interesting film. With Tinker, Tailor Alfredson is playing in another league entirely. He got promoted to the majors. And as far as I can tell, he pitched a no-hitter in his first game. Segueing into an almost non-sequitur (but not really because it's another exercise in the study of Scandinamericanism), have you ever heard of a Danish TV series called Borgen? The name means the fortress or castle, and refers to the Christiansborg Palace, home to all three branches of Danish government. This is a series created by the same production company that did the original Danish The Killing. It's a political thriller, one of the main characters of which is the newly-elected female Prime Minister. It's now showing on British TV, and after watching the first episode I'm hooked. It's like Boss, in that it's a glimpse inside the world of politics and politicians, but less cynical, and more Danish. It's a real winner. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: Re:Turquoiseb Review: Tinkers, Tailors, Soldiers, Spies For Heaven's sake . ,Once sensed, this frog jumped out of the hotpot: Tinker, Tailor,Soldier, Sailor,Rich Man, Poor Man.Beggar Man, Thief Kant weight to see it- [:)] was my first reaction to Turquoiseb almost forgotten not responded- Tatoo-overshadowed-review. After seeing it, meru, leaning on his danda, had the impression Turquoiseb had something else to hint to, to another kind of night unto heresy [;)] : You could almost feel and smell and taste the loss and emptiness of the world of the Cold War Era as well as remember, behind a frozen ice-flowers-window-crystal, the hijacking of the mole hysteria by the political system then in the Real and mirroring hijacking the whack-a-mole hysteria by and among the self proclaimed TMO pundit(ry) for their own personal gain and power mimicry game. Watching it brings a lot of baggage along with may be many TM oldsters here at FFL -- to this revisit of the Cold War great retelling of an enduring story of treachery and betrayal by those wanna be's you trusted and looked up to. This film is a ghost film.--- Reality check: Tinker, Tailor is partly based on the case of Kim Philby, who were recruited by the Soviets in the 1930s. (Mr. le Carré, born David John Moore Cornwell, was a British spy whose cover was blown by Philby.1979, Sir Alec's image bore quiet resemblance to Peter, Lord Carrington, Foreign Secretary in the first Cabinet of Margaret Thatcher) --TMO in the end 70s?...let me check the progress of the Adoptive Admissions message/300982 definition and discussion.lol [:D] Tinker, Tailor: Details and emphasis has changed, 350 hours simplified to only 2 hours,Hungary instead of Czechoslovakia ,Guinness's turn is the Torah- Mr. Oldman's the Talmud, but wisely it doesn't reinvent Smiley as hinted in an early scene of Smiley buying the kind of oversize eyeglasses that Guinness wore. Shakespearean in theme, language and character - slow, detailed and elegant It is no longer about language elegance intellectual but pictures(Circus's chessboardlike walls express what the film's words and characters don't) visceral and an awkward realism Beside the subtitle overgeneralization joke before and Turquoiseb laudatio for Swedish some may still ask, why remakes?and Mr Smiley-esque answer: good screen writing is an oxymoron and paraphrase Pete Seeger, Where have all the writers gone?--then: Be aware of the impressive addition of the cinematically rich Christmas party sequence which IMHO fleshed out the plot and characters very effectively: For the eagle eyed viewer, John le Carre, the author of the books, appears in the Christmas party scene Has sombody interviewed him yet? PSswinging the other way. Here we may say every generation is entitled to a chance to update the classics. Even Olivier's Richard IIIdid not discourage McKellen and Spacey and his performance hasn't been 5 years ago IMHO great le Carré movie was The Spy Who Came In From the Cold. It is a simpler story with shocking insights into the real spy game, and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sizing a tiny pond: estimating the number of current TM meditators in the U.S.
On 01/09/2012 05:20 AM, Vaj wrote: On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Mike Doughney wrote: The latest article at the TM-Free Blog: Crunching the Facebook Numbers: How Many Meditators Are There? Excerpt: Through use of an advertising targeting tool on Facebook, it's possible to measure the popularity of a number of topics related to Transcendental Meditation across age groups, and thus extrapolate from that sampling of Facebook users to the general population. This method suggests that only about 60,000 people in the United States have any current interest in these topics, which is a tiny fraction of the one million meditators that the TM movement claims currently live in the United States. Well that just means there's 940,000 in recovery... I have a feeling that when TM popped up on Californication last night that viewers looked at each other and said is THAT still around? :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Don't play games with the mad intelligence of this Telugu Brahmin, OK? Mad intelligence is an oxymoron Ravi; nor does it correspond with the characteristics of enlightenment, at least in the sense of behaviours that are traditionally associated with this term. Apparently you wish to have, instead of acquaintances and friends, enemies. MAD - Mentally ill; insane Extremely foolish or ill-advised In a frenzied mental or physical state Very angry (of a dog) Rabid As well as the following (from Merriam-Webster's 11th Collegiate edition): --carried away by enthusiasm or desire --marked by wild gaiety and merriment: HILARIOUS --marked by intense and often chaotic activity: WILD Just sayin'... Yes, I did not list all definitions, but Ravi seems a bit over the top here lately. Would there be an improvement in the world if Ravi were president of Iran? LOL Ravi couldn't be any worse than Imadinnerjacket as president of Iran. Carried away by enthusiasm, wild gaiety and merriment, just for the hell of it, he could close the Straits of Hormuz, then laugh calling us his bitches if we got pissed off about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We1T9ALZmX0feature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip One of the things that I think distinguishes my comments from others here is that I tend to focus on the forest and not on individual trees. I spot TRENDS. Actually you *make up* trends, virtually always self- serving ones that provide you with a framework to attack the folks you don't like (i.e., those who criticize you). Many of the people I end up criticizing (and yes, sometimes harshly) don't seem to be able to do that. They get so focused on the moment, and the putdown or gotcha they're trying to achieve *in* that moment that they lose sight of the fact that they have run the exact same gotcha number dozens of times in the last couple of months. The routine never changes, only the particulars. Whereas you have a set of a half-dozen or so trends that you announce over and over, each time as if the one you're announcing has just occurred to you. As to your claim that you don't focus on individual posters: Becoming obsessed with another poster, to the point of not even being able to *realize* that one has become obsessed, does not strike me as sane behavior. Being literally *unable* to control oneself, and compelled to keep playing gotcha even if it means one has to post out to do so does not strike me as sane behavior. Writing tens of thousands of words trying desperately to get someone to argue with you who has said he has no interest in arguing with you does not strike me as sane behavior. Writing like one is trying to demonstrate the textbook definition of hypomania does not strike me as sane behavior. Here you describe four (or possibly just three, since the last two appear to be the same person) individual posters. The folks you're referring to are easily recognizable based on the many times you've described them in exactly the same way. And all of them are your critics, interestingly enough. In short, a few people on this forum strike me as not sane. I have chosen to ignore them, and what they write. Actually you *don't* ignore them. What you mean is that you choose not to address them directly. You announce on a regular basis that you're ignoring them, while also posting regular attacks on them (like the attacks above). Often you direct these attacks at individual posters by responding to a post that quotes a post of theirs; even if you don't use their names, it's obvious who you're talking about. Some might say that repeating a pretense that everyone recognizes as such over and over does not strike them as sane. They have chosen to keep attacking me, Because you keep attacking them. and to expand their attacks to anyone who either agrees with me or admits to liking some of the things I write. This is one of the bogus trends that exists only in your own imagination. Except, perhaps, when what these folks agree with or admit to liking happens to be one of your attacks. They seem to feel that this is both justified, and rational. But again, it does not strike me as sane behavior. For you, sane behavior consists of (a) never criticizing you and/or (b) never uttering a peep of protest about your attacks.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Shut the fuck up Stephen, you little bitch before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania. You never responded to the little assignment I gave you sly motherfucker. On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:59 PM, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: Rick Archer likes the controversy. At least Ravi has the excuse of being mentally ill. Vaj is just as slanderous but he acts maliciously and in bad faith. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I agree with Doug. Ravi's continual slanderous, obscenity-laden posts drag this forum down into the sewer. He should be expelled from this forum without delay. It is one thing to have serious, even angry disputes with people, but the other feuding parties here avoid excesses such as those demonstrated almost every day by Ravi. If the moderators have any respect for their own forum, they should take action on this issue. If Ravi wants to indulge in his absurd, offensive adolescent fantasies he should find another place to do it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Yep, I agree with Curtis here. What RaviC is doing here is sinful by resolution and no good for the community here. He is not contributing to the conversation but fishing it with this kind of spiritual abuse. As much as anything he is mocking Rick with this stuff. This is needless over the top abuse. The FFL list Moderators should unsubscribe this guy Ravi from FFL. The guy has fouled out, so to speak. Unsubscribe him now. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Scanning over the posts this morning was a little wake-up call. Imagine my surprise (second time use I know, so lamo but I'm just getting started here and I'm not warmed up creatively) to see this in the headers: but Steve not being a pervert like Curtis who used his power in a cult to prey on innocent women I gotta say for the first time in all the years posting here, I considered unlisting. Not because someone said something inflammatory and untrue about me, but this is a special case of Internet tolling. I have become a repetitive negative focus for someone and I really can't win here. The amount of energy such an individual can expend on such a malicious project is endless (within the 50 posts mercifully) So first thanks and props to Steve who gets that this could have an impact on me professionally, due to the amount of material being generated here. It makes me look like someone with a controversial past which is untrue. No matter how many times I post a rebuttal this will just stoke the enthusiasm for more posting. Flooding a forum like this will a lie repetitively
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
Curtis, A few more clues - Don't checkout FB page so you retards pop up on friends suggestions, stop watching my videos from Virginia and Netherlands. Stop this perverse masochistic obsession on me. You are my Rakshasaa, my metaphorical demon of deception. Consider yourself lucky that I even deemed to spend this much time an old dumb pervert like you. STOP your malicious, evil campaign here. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Shut the fuck up Stephen, you little bitch before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania. You never responded to the little assignment I gave you sly motherfucker. On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:59 PM, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: Rick Archer likes the controversy. At least Ravi has the excuse of being mentally ill. Vaj is just as slanderous but he acts maliciously and in bad faith. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I agree with Doug. Ravi's continual slanderous, obscenity-laden posts drag this forum down into the sewer. He should be expelled from this forum without delay. It is one thing to have serious, even angry disputes with people, but the other feuding parties here avoid excesses such as those demonstrated almost every day by Ravi. If the moderators have any respect for their own forum, they should take action on this issue. If Ravi wants to indulge in his absurd, offensive adolescent fantasies he should find another place to do it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Yep, I agree with Curtis here. What RaviC is doing here is sinful by resolution and no good for the community here. He is not contributing to the conversation but fishing it with this kind of spiritual abuse. As much as anything he is mocking Rick with this stuff. This is needless over the top abuse. The FFL list Moderators should unsubscribe this guy Ravi from FFL. The guy has fouled out, so to speak. Unsubscribe him now. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Scanning over the posts this morning was a little wake-up call. Imagine my surprise (second time use I know, so lamo but I'm just getting started here and I'm not warmed up creatively) to see this in the headers: but Steve not being a pervert like Curtis who used his power in a cult to prey on innocent women I gotta say for the first time in all the years posting here, I considered unlisting. Not because someone said something inflammatory and untrue about me, but this is a special case of Internet tolling. I have become a repetitive negative focus for someone and I really can't win here. The amount of energy such an
[FairfieldLife] Fallback position
After the State Bar discovers my shoddy lawyering, I figure that I can get by on painting and social security. [This is a painting I'm doing for my son who shares with me, to one degree or another, an interest in the bullfighting tradition.]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
The funniest thang would be all of us of FFL sittin at a round table, staring at each other face to face and I know you would lovingly embrace each and everyone of em, right Paw? Yes Paw would hug everyone, he will have special love for the intelligence, love, heart and intuition of the InfividualsRUs, but he would show equal love and attention to PervertsRUs (Curtis, Barry) inspite of their evil, malicious campaign and perverse masochistic obsession on me. Paw would love all HypocritesRUs including the cold heartless Xeno, in fact I would hug Xeno a little more, he really needs it you know and the RetardsRUs, of course RetardsRUs are close to his heart as well. Love you Obba, kiss, kiss, XOXOXOXOXO.. On Jan 9, 2012, at 5:25 AM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The funniest thang would be all of us of FFL sittin at a round table, staring at each other face to face and I know you would lovingly embrace each and everyone of em, right Paw?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
So lets see if I have this right. When you send me a Facebook friend request, and look at your page, then turn it down, it is me obsessing on you. If you post a link and I look at it, I am being perverse... Your language is inappropriately obscene and harsh for a public board like this Ravi. I object to your abusive language here. Ravi Chivukula does not know me personally and has no inside information about me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Curtis, A few more clues - Don't checkout FB page so you retards pop up on friends suggestions, stop watching my videos from Virginia and Netherlands. Stop this perverse masochistic obsession on me. You are my Rakshasaa, my metaphorical demon of deception. Consider yourself lucky that I even deemed to spend this much time an old dumb pervert like you. STOP your malicious, evil campaign here. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Shut the fuck up Stephen, you little bitch before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania. You never responded to the little assignment I gave you sly motherfucker. On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:59 PM, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: Rick Archer likes the controversy. At least Ravi has the excuse of being mentally ill. Vaj is just as slanderous but he acts maliciously and in bad faith. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I agree with Doug. Ravi's continual slanderous, obscenity-laden posts drag this forum down into the sewer. He should be expelled from this forum without delay. It is one thing to have serious, even angry disputes with people, but the other feuding parties here avoid excesses such as those demonstrated almost every day by Ravi. If the moderators have any respect for their own forum, they should take action on this issue. If Ravi wants to indulge in his absurd, offensive adolescent fantasies he should find another place to do it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Yep, I agree with Curtis here. What RaviC is doing here is sinful by resolution and no good for the community here. He is not contributing to the conversation but fishing it with this kind of spiritual abuse. As much as anything he is mocking Rick with this stuff. This is needless over the top abuse. The FFL list Moderators should unsubscribe this guy Ravi from FFL. The guy has fouled out, so to speak. Unsubscribe him now. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Scanning over the posts this morning was a little wake-up call. Imagine my surprise (second time use I
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
The difference between Barry's ad hominem attacks and Judy's is Barry's are veiled in generalities forcing one to connect the dots of the argument while Judy takes direct aim and fires at will. Since this contest continues indefinitely, the net effect seems about equal. My conclusion is Barry would make a better screen play writer, as there is some subtext in his work, while Judy would be a better markswoman (and of course Barry would not make a very attractive markswoman). Spotting trends a prophet doth not make. Barry is repetitive. Judy is repetitive, I am repetitive. If the universe, as some say, is a unity, then it is just one thing over and over. Thus, this contest between Judy and Barry may go on for as long as they live. Such joy. Go at it people. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip One of the things that I think distinguishes my comments from others here is that I tend to focus on the forest and not on individual trees. I spot TRENDS. Actually you *make up* trends, virtually always self- serving ones that provide you with a framework to attack the folks you don't like (i.e., those who criticize you). Many of the people I end up criticizing (and yes, sometimes harshly) don't seem to be able to do that. They get so focused on the moment, and the putdown or gotcha they're trying to achieve *in* that moment that they lose sight of the fact that they have run the exact same gotcha number dozens of times in the last couple of months. The routine never changes, only the particulars. Whereas you have a set of a half-dozen or so trends that you announce over and over, each time as if the one you're announcing has just occurred to you. As to your claim that you don't focus on individual posters: Becoming obsessed with another poster, to the point of not even being able to *realize* that one has become obsessed, does not strike me as sane behavior. Being literally *unable* to control oneself, and compelled to keep playing gotcha even if it means one has to post out to do so does not strike me as sane behavior. Writing tens of thousands of words trying desperately to get someone to argue with you who has said he has no interest in arguing with you does not strike me as sane behavior. Writing like one is trying to demonstrate the textbook definition of hypomania does not strike me as sane behavior. Here you describe four (or possibly just three, since the last two appear to be the same person) individual posters. The folks you're referring to are easily recognizable based on the many times you've described them in exactly the same way. And all of them are your critics, interestingly enough. In short, a few people on this forum strike me as not sane. I have chosen to ignore them, and what they write. Actually you *don't* ignore them. What you mean is that you choose not to address them directly. You announce on a regular basis that you're ignoring them, while also posting regular attacks on them (like the attacks above). Often you direct these attacks at individual posters by responding to a post that quotes a post of theirs; even if you don't use their names, it's obvious who you're talking about. Some might say that repeating a pretense that everyone recognizes as such over and over does not strike them as sane. They have chosen to keep attacking me, Because you keep attacking them. and to expand their attacks to anyone who either agrees with me or admits to liking some of the things I write. This is one of the bogus trends that exists only in your own imagination. Except, perhaps, when what these folks agree with or admit to liking happens to be one of your attacks. They seem to feel that this is both justified, and rational. But again, it does not strike me as sane behavior. For you, sane behavior consists of (a) never criticizing you and/or (b) never uttering a peep of protest about your attacks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
The image does not show because the picture does not appear to be up on the Internet. It has to be on a web server, and the post has to have its web address. It appears you tried to insert an image from your computer or some other source (another email?) into the post. You need to upload it to a visible location on the web. This is the address the post had of your image: webkit-fake-url://77F275B7-79EE-401C-B2D2-447B1D4B3400/imagejpeg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: After the State Bar discovers my shoddy lawyering, I figure that I can get by on painting and social security. [This is a painting I'm doing for my son who shares with me, to one degree or another, an interest in the bullfighting tradition.]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
Yes Ravi, we atheistic vulcan zen buddhist dropouts are a cold-hearted bunch, like frozen nitrogen on a dead, unbound world drifting between galaxies, far from the light of any sun. At least you have a permanent tan. Looks good on you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: The funniest thang would be all of us of FFL sittin at a round table, staring at each other face to face and I know you would lovingly embrace each and everyone of em, right Paw? Yes Paw would hug everyone, he will have special love for the intelligence, love, heart and intuition of the InfividualsRUs, but he would show equal love and attention to PervertsRUs (Curtis, Barry) inspite of their evil, malicious campaign and perverse masochistic obsession on me. Paw would love all HypocritesRUs including the cold heartless Xeno, in fact I would hug Xeno a little more, he really needs it you know and the RetardsRUs, of course RetardsRUs are close to his heart as well. Love you Obba, kiss, kiss, XOXOXOXOXO.. On Jan 9, 2012, at 5:25 AM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The funniest thang would be all of us of FFL sittin at a round table, staring at each other face to face and I know you would lovingly embrace each and everyone of em, right Paw?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
This is an example of why my fallback position is not IT. I'm ignorant of how to attach a jpeg image from my iPad (obviously); any suggestions? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: The image does not show because the picture does not appear to be up on the Internet. It has to be on a web server, and the post has to have its web address. It appears you tried to insert an image from your computer or some other source (another email?) into the post. You need to upload it to a visible location on the web. This is the address the post had of your image: webkit-fake-url://77F275B7-79EE-401C-B2D2-447B1D4B3400/imagejpeg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: After the State Bar discovers my shoddy lawyering, I figure that I can get by on painting and social security. [This is a painting I'm doing for my son who shares with me, to one degree or another, an interest in the bullfighting tradition.]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: This is an example of why my fallback position is not IT. LOL. Neither is mine, interestingly enough. I find humanism and the ability to speak to a wide range of interests and sensibilities to be far more marketable in this downsized economy than mere nerditudeness. :-) I'm ignorant of how to attach a jpeg image from my iPad (obviously); any suggestions? I really am a minor nerd compared to others on this forum, but I can suggest two approaches that have worked for me in the past. The first is to post the photo in question to the FFL Photos link. That establishes its existence on the Net, and its shareability as paste-in photos, just fine. The other approach is to post the photo to a website that specializes in sharing photos. Once your snap is posted there, you can usually share it by copying the photo and pasting it into your reply. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: The image does not show because the picture does not appear to be up on the Internet. It has to be on a web server, and the post has to have its web address. It appears you tried to insert an image from your computer or some other source (another email?) into the post. You need to upload it to a visible location on the web. This is the address the post had of your image: webkit-fake-url://77F275B7-79EE-401C-B2D2-447B1D4B3400/imagejpeg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: After the State Bar discovers my shoddy lawyering, I figure that I can get by on painting and social security. [This is a painting I'm doing for my son who shares with me, to one degree or another, an interest in the bullfighting tradition.]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
I have never used an iPad (I looked at one once). You have to upload the JPEG image to a website, such as photo section of this forum, or to a picture website. Once you have that address it can inserted into the post such as this image of Abraham Lincoln: http://www.historyplace.com/lincoln/lincpix/last.jpg If the image is in a webpage (like on Flickr) you need to get the picture's address not the web page address. Since I am using a Windows machine, I can right click the mouse and select the picture to display in the browser separately from the page and then its address appears in the brower's address bar. I don't know what to do on a Mac or an iPad. The image in text view on the forum will not show, you have to click on the link to view it at its actual web location like with Yifu's posts. Some software may allow you to drag the image into the post, if the post is being composed in HTML like the Rich-Text Editor on the forum, but my web browser cannot cut and paste or drag a picture into this Rich Text Editor, I have to go in and edit the HTML, if I want the image to appear in the post. Those who get the posts as text only will not see the picture, and I have never tested to see if the link to the photo appears in this case. I recall Judy once said how to get a picture into the post by dragging, but I have never succeeded in dragging a picture directly into a post. If you are using an email client separate from the forum, mailing to the forum, that might allow inserting an image from your computer as an attachment or embedded in an HTML email. Some more comments: http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081005025443AAe8a3k --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: This is an example of why my fallback position is not IT. I'm ignorant of how to attach a jpeg image from my iPad (obviously); any suggestions? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: The image does not show because the picture does not appear to be up on the Internet. It has to be on a web server, and the post has to have its web address. It appears you tried to insert an image from your computer or some other source (another email?) into the post. You need to upload it to a visible location on the web. This is the address the post had of your image: webkit-fake-url://77F275B7-79EE-401C-B2D2-447B1D4B3400/imagejpeg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: After the State Bar discovers my shoddy lawyering, I figure that I can get by on painting and social security. [This is a painting I'm doing for my son who shares with me, to one degree or another, an interest in the bullfighting tradition.]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
Thanks, Barry, there should soon be a photo album, Fallback position with perhaps two copies of the image. I think I duplicated the process, further confirming my tech prowess. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: This is an example of why my fallback position is not IT. LOL. Neither is mine, interestingly enough. I find humanism and the ability to speak to a wide range of interests and sensibilities to be far more marketable in this downsized economy than mere nerditudeness. :-) I'm ignorant of how to attach a jpeg image from my iPad (obviously); any suggestions? I really am a minor nerd compared to others on this forum, but I can suggest two approaches that have worked for me in the past. The first is to post the photo in question to the FFL Photos link. That establishes its existence on the Net, and its shareability as paste-in photos, just fine. The other approach is to post the photo to a website that specializes in sharing photos. Once your snap is posted there, you can usually share it by copying the photo and pasting it into your reply. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: The image does not show because the picture does not appear to be up on the Internet. It has to be on a web server, and the post has to have its web address. It appears you tried to insert an image from your computer or some other source (another email?) into the post. You need to upload it to a visible location on the web. This is the address the post had of your image: webkit-fake-url://77F275B7-79EE-401C-B2D2-447B1D4B3400/imagejpeg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: After the State Bar discovers my shoddy lawyering, I figure that I can get by on painting and social security. [This is a painting I'm doing for my son who shares with me, to one degree or another, an interest in the bullfighting tradition.]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
Thanks for the suggestions; I tried the create a new photo album idea and see that I've created three, as yet empty albums, each entitled Fallback position. Just more examples of my basic shoddiness, apparently. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: I have never used an iPad (I looked at one once). You have to upload the JPEG image to a website, such as photo section of this forum, or to a picture website. Once you have that address it can inserted into the post such as this image of Abraham Lincoln: http://www.historyplace.com/lincoln/lincpix/last.jpg If the image is in a webpage (like on Flickr) you need to get the picture's address not the web page address. Since I am using a Windows machine, I can right click the mouse and select the picture to display in the browser separately from the page and then its address appears in the brower's address bar. I don't know what to do on a Mac or an iPad. The image in text view on the forum will not show, you have to click on the link to view it at its actual web location like with Yifu's posts. Some software may allow you to drag the image into the post, if the post is being composed in HTML like the Rich-Text Editor on the forum, but my web browser cannot cut and paste or drag a picture into this Rich Text Editor, I have to go in and edit the HTML, if I want the image to appear in the post. Those who get the posts as text only will not see the picture, and I have never tested to see if the link to the photo appears in this case. I recall Judy once said how to get a picture into the post by dragging, but I have never succeeded in dragging a picture directly into a post. If you are using an email client separate from the forum, mailing to the forum, that might allow inserting an image from your computer as an attachment or embedded in an HTML email. Some more comments: http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081005025443AAe8a3k --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: This is an example of why my fallback position is not IT. I'm ignorant of how to attach a jpeg image from my iPad (obviously); any suggestions? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: The image does not show because the picture does not appear to be up on the Internet. It has to be on a web server, and the post has to have its web address. It appears you tried to insert an image from your computer or some other source (another email?) into the post. You need to upload it to a visible location on the web. This is the address the post had of your image: webkit-fake-url://77F275B7-79EE-401C-B2D2-447B1D4B3400/imagejpeg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: After the State Bar discovers my shoddy lawyering, I figure that I can get by on painting and social security. [This is a painting I'm doing for my son who shares with me, to one degree or another, an interest in the bullfighting tradition.]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Has it not occurred to you that those who gave you such support did so out of a conviction that there was a moral imperative to do so? Some might, but this is not either a universal or a realistic expectation that it is common to all. There are as many versions of this as posters I suspect. Other than I want Curtis to like me and/or I can't stand Ravi, I have trouble thinking of what other reasons there might be. That is the precisely the problem you are having, it is an emotional intelligence issue. So what are some other possibilities, O Perfect Fount of Emotional Intelligence? You seem to lack an ability to conceive that your standards and values are not universals. Hmmm, that must be why I'm trying to get you to adopt mine on this point. I'm gunna guess that you went through a lot of bullying in school for this lack. Am I right? Just a guess. Nope, you aren't right. So much for your emotional intelligence. I was objecting to the accusation that my failure to do so in cases you have chosen as priorities for you,indicated a moral lapse on my part. Yup, that's the accusation. Note that the you in what you wrote applies not just to me but to a number of people here who are sick and tired of Barry's behavior and the effect it has on the atmosphere of FFL generally (regardless of whether they've been his targets). Yeah, I'll fix that right up. Glad you identified the problem as me. I meant me. I am the problem because you have a problem with Barry. A lot of people have a problem with Barry. (Is there an echo in here?) And a bunch of them have a problem with you not having a problem with Barry. snip The responsibility rap is not gunna work any better on me for Barry's business as it does with you for Ravi, although I see the appeal in this expectation. I don't believe it would work Maybe not, but that's secondary. You'd have taken a public stand for fairness in how people should be treated. If he ignored or disputed it, he'd be taking a stand *against* fairness, and that would be important for the rest of us to know. Yeah, you have a problem with Barry. Good luck with that. I'm going to put it on a macro: A *lot* of people here have a problem with Barry. It would be helpful for it to be on the record that his many lapses in the fairness department aren't just a matter of insousciance but rather demonstrations of his genuine contempt for fairness when he has an axe to grind. And it would make it clear that his lip-service just my opinion caveats were not sincere. It would *also* raise the question of how valid the cases he tries to make could be if the only way he can make them is by consciously not being fair. And in any case, if you were to take a public stand for fairness, it could rub off on other people as well and encourage them to be more attentive to the fairness quotient of their own posts. It would help establish a standard, in other words. You have the moral authority to do that here. snip And the other two who tried to ride this shame game can defend themselves just fine too so I don't know what helpless poster you are referring to. WTF? If you mean Bob and Robin, I'm not referring to them at all. There are many folks Barry has targeted for attack who aren't as well armed as Bob or Robin or I. Why on earth would you think I was talking about them? OK so who is not well armed? I guess answering this is tricky considering privacy concerns if they contacted you offline I'm talking only about what's evident on the forum. But of course I'm not going to name names. snip You are welcome to this opinion, but I suspect your evaluation would not be a universal one here. I never heard so many int the group seriously lobbying for Barry to be kicked off as they have repeatedly for Ravi. People are *afraid* of Barry. And some people afraid of you Judy. Could be. But not for the same reasons they're afraid of Barry. I'm tough, but I'm pretty fair; I don't lie; I usually check my facts; and I rarely make gratuitous attacks. Nor do I dump nastily on posters who respectfully and sincerely say things I don't agree with. snip At what point, moving down the spectrum to situations of lesser significance, do you find that moral obligation no longer applies? That was my question. It's a standard way of framing an ethical issue. I always stop at level seven which corresponds to the color blue on a spectrum. How can I answer this question? How do you? When it's obviously not serious, either when the person is clearly just fooling around and/or because the posters themselves aren't taken seriously about much of anything. Ravi's offensive accusation crossed the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: So lets see if I have this right. When you send me a Facebook friend request, and look at your page, then turn it down, it is me obsessing on you. If you post a link and I look at it, I am being perverse... Your language is inappropriately obscene and harsh for a public board like this Ravi. I object to your abusive language here. Ravi Chivukula does not know me personally and has no inside information about me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, A few more clues - Don't checkout FB page so you retards pop up on friends suggestions, stop watching my videos from Virginia and Netherlands. Stop this perverse masochistic obsession on me. You are my Rakshasaa, my metaphorical demon of deception. Consider yourself lucky that I even deemed to spend this much time an old dumb pervert like you. STOP your malicious, evil campaign here. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Shut the fuck up Stephen, you little bitch before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania. You never responded to the little assignment I gave you sly motherfucker. On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:59 PM, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: Rick Archer likes the controversy. At least Ravi has the excuse of being mentally ill. Vaj is just as slanderous but he acts maliciously and in bad faith. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I agree with Doug. Ravi's continual slanderous, obscenity-laden posts drag this forum down into the sewer. He should be expelled from this forum without delay. It is one thing to have serious, even angry disputes with people, but the other feuding parties here avoid excesses such as those demonstrated almost every day by Ravi. If the moderators have any respect for their own forum, they should take action on this issue. If Ravi wants to indulge in his absurd, offensive adolescent fantasies he should find another place to do it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Yep, I agree with Curtis here. What RaviC is doing here is sinful by resolution and no good for the community here. He is not contributing to the conversation but fishing it with this kind of spiritual abuse. As much as
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: snip I recall Judy once said how to get a picture into the post by dragging, but I have never succeeded in dragging a picture directly into a post. (Xeno, you may need to quote this; I suspect Marek may not be reading my posts.) Using Yahoo's Rich Text Editor in Windows, you don't drag it, you Copy and Paste it. Put the cursor in the Rich Text message window where you want the picture to appear. Then open another tab and go to the Web site that hosts the picture. Right-click on the picture and click Copy on the drop-down menu. Now switch back to the Rich Text window, right-click, and click Paste on the drop-down menu. The picture should now appear in your message. (Sometimes this doesn't work, for a variety of reasons I'm not clear on. Sometimes the picture will even appear in the Rich Text window neat as you please, but then when you post it, it will have disappeared. It all works as it should maybe 8 times out of 10 for me.) You can also change the size of the picture if it's too big, by checking the box View HTML Source at the bottom left of the message window. You need to find the dimensions of the picture in pixels in the mass of HTML; then you can adjust as necessary by reducing the width and height by the same percentage so the proportions are preserved. You can enlarge it the same way, but it may become fuzzy if the picture was low-res to start with. Uncheck the View HTML Source box to get back to the regular message window and see the picture in its new size. You can also move the picture around in the window (center it, move it flush right, whatever) by playing with the HTML, but I'm not sure how to do that. If you put more than one or two good-sized pictures in a message, they may not all appear when the message is posted; there's a byte limit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
Now that the image is on the photo section of the forum can you find its address on your iPad. This is the address as I got it on my computer: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veronica.jpg I am also going to reply to this email using the rich text editor in a separate post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Thanks for the suggestions [from Barry and also Xeno]; I tried the create a new photo album idea and see that I've created three, as yet empty albums, each entitled Fallback position.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So lets see if I have this right. When you send me a Facebook friend request, and look at your page, then turn it down, it is me obsessing on you. If you post a link and I look at it, I am being perverse... Your language is inappropriately obscene and harsh for a public board like this Ravi. I object to your abusive language here. Ravi Chivukula does not know me personally and has no inside information about me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, A few more clues - Don't checkout FB page so you retards pop up on friends suggestions, stop watching my videos from Virginia and Netherlands. Stop this perverse masochistic obsession on me. You are my Rakshasaa, my metaphorical demon of deception. Consider yourself lucky that I even deemed to spend this much time an old dumb pervert like you. STOP your malicious, evil campaign here. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Shut the fuck up Stephen, you little bitch before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania. You never responded to the little assignment I gave you sly motherfucker. On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:59 PM, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: Rick Archer likes the controversy. At least Ravi has the excuse of being mentally ill. Vaj is just as slanderous but he acts maliciously and in bad faith. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I agree with Doug. Ravi's continual slanderous, obscenity-laden posts drag this forum down into the sewer. He should be expelled from this forum without delay. It is one thing to have serious, even angry disputes with people, but the other feuding parties here avoid excesses such as those demonstrated almost every day by Ravi. If the moderators have any respect for their own forum, they should take action on this issue. If Ravi wants to indulge in his absurd, offensive
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
He is using an iPad, it does not have a mouse. I don't know what the equivalent is, if there is one. Judy's comments below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip I recall Judy once said how to get a picture into the post by dragging, but I have never succeeded in dragging a picture directly into a post. (Xeno, you may need to quote this; I suspect Marek may not be reading my posts.) Using Yahoo's Rich Text Editor in Windows, you don't drag it, you Copy and Paste it. Put the cursor in the Rich Text message window where you want the picture to appear. Then open another tab and go to the Web site that hosts the picture. Right-click on the picture and click Copy on the drop-down menu. Now switch back to the Rich Text window, right-click, and click Paste on the drop-down menu. The picture should now appear in your message. (Sometimes this doesn't work, for a variety of reasons I'm not clear on. Sometimes the picture will even appear in the Rich Text window neat as you please, but then when you post it, it will have disappeared. It all works as it should maybe 8 times out of 10 for me.) You can also change the size of the picture if it's too big, by checking the box View HTML Source at the bottom left of the message window. You need to find the dimensions of the picture in pixels in the mass of HTML; then you can adjust as necessary by reducing the width and height by the same percentage so the proportions are preserved. You can enlarge it the same way, but it may become fuzzy if the picture was low-res to start with. Uncheck the View HTML Source box to get back to the regular message window and see the picture in its new size. You can also move the picture around in the window (center it, move it flush right, whatever) by playing with the HTML, but I'm not sure how to do that. If you put more than one or two good-sized pictures in a message, they may not all appear when the message is posted; there's a byte limit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
Thank you again, Xeno, and to Judy, too. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Now that the image is on the photo section of the forum can you find its address on your iPad. This is the address as I got it on my computer: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veronica.jpg I am also going to reply to this email using the rich text editor in a separate post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Thanks for the suggestions [from Barry and also Xeno]; I tried the create a new photo album idea and see that I've created three, as yet empty albums, each entitled Fallback position.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Are you now or have you ever been...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
My 2c: Crazy Wisdom is an oxymoron. Craziness is what is is, nothing deep about it (Cf. the life of Adi Da, the consummate embodiment of self-styled Crazy Wisdom). .. People simply have preferences, crazy or otherwise. I use a game-theory approach to analyzing such behavior - in terms of a goal, there are costs/benefits. For example: Somebody says, I would like to have a robust sexual life with 16,000 Gopis. Fine, this is a legitimate preference but by no means indicative of Enlightenment, since many Traditionally recognized Enlightened people had no sex life at all that we know of. ... Next step in game theory is to accept the statement on the surface, then go on from there in term of fulfilling the goal. If the reply is...the Gopis haven't shown up yet and besides, I'm married; then I'd say the original statement is socially maladaptive, and thus crazy. http://fantazos.us/pages/The%20House%20Key.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So lets see if I have this right. When you send me a Facebook friend request, and look at your page, then turn it down, it is me obsessing on you. If you post a link and I look at it, I am being perverse... Your language is inappropriately obscene and harsh for a public board like this Ravi. I object to your abusive language here. Ravi Chivukula does not know me personally and has no inside information about me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, A few more clues - Don't checkout FB page so you retards pop up on friends suggestions, stop watching my videos from Virginia and Netherlands. Stop this perverse masochistic obsession on me. You are my Rakshasaa, my metaphorical demon of deception. Consider yourself lucky that I even deemed to spend this much time an old dumb pervert like you. STOP your malicious, evil campaign here. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
This is your image in the rich text editor: What I did here was click on the little box at the bottom in the lower left hand corner of editor called view HTML source and insert the following: img src=http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veroni\ ca.jpg The and define the start and end points an HTML element for images 'img' defines it is an image. 'src' means 'source replaced content' which is the web address of the location of the image, because the image is not in the post, the web page on the forum pulls the image in from its location on the web. The equal sign means the source of the replaced content is the address on the other side of the equal sign. The address is in double quotes. You always have to use the full address including the http:// It might be good to try to put the image in first, if you see all the stuff and the messy HTML that the editor makes in this source view, you may not know where to put it in. Let me know if you understand this or not. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Now that the image is on the photo section of the forum can you find its address on your iPad. This is the address as I got it on my computer: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veronica.jp\ g I am also going to reply to this email using the rich text editor in a separate post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Thanks for the suggestions [from Barry and also Xeno]; I tried the create a new photo album idea and see that I've created three, as yet empty albums, each entitled Fallback position.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sizing a tiny pond: estimating the number of current TM meditators in the U.S.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Doughney mike@... wrote: The latest article at the TM-Free Blog: Crunching the Facebook Numbers: How Many Meditators Are There? http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2012/01/crunching-facebook-numbers-meditator\ s.html Excerpt: Through use of an advertising targeting tool on Facebook, it's possible to measure the popularity of a number of topics related to Transcendental Meditation across age groups, and thus extrapolate from that sampling of Facebook users to the general population. This method suggests that only about 60,000 people in the United States have any current interest in these topics, which is a tiny fraction of the one million meditators that the TM movement claims currently live in the United States. Watching the DLF videos gives me the impression that it's mostly Afro-Americans that nowadays learn TM... Oh bama lama, doobie doo... ;D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
Ravi is over the top, even emotionally abusive, but compared to Willy, Ravi is a saint. Ravi only gets pissed at one person at a time. Willy hates up to SIX BILLION people in a nano-glance. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So lets see if I have this right. When you send me a Facebook friend request, and look at your page, then turn it down, it is me obsessing on you. If you post a link and I look at it, I am being perverse... Your language is inappropriately obscene and harsh for a public board like this Ravi. I object to your abusive language here. Ravi Chivukula does not know me personally and has no inside information about me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, A few more clues - Don't checkout FB page so you retards pop up on friends suggestions, stop watching my videos from Virginia and Netherlands. Stop this perverse masochistic obsession on me. You are my Rakshasaa, my metaphorical demon of deception. Consider yourself lucky that I even deemed to spend this much time an old dumb pervert like you. STOP your malicious, evil campaign here. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Shut the fuck up Stephen, you little bitch before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania. You never responded to the little assignment I gave you sly motherfucker. On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:59 PM, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: Rick Archer likes the controversy. At least Ravi has the excuse of being mentally ill. Vaj is just as slanderous but he acts maliciously and in bad faith. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I agree with Doug. Ravi's continual slanderous, obscenity-laden posts drag this forum down into the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
I agree with Xeno, Curtisa and Barry on this point. susan --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So lets see if I have this right. When you send me a Facebook friend request, and look at your page, then turn it down, it is me obsessing on you. If you post a link and I look at it, I am being perverse... Your language is inappropriately obscene and harsh for a public board like this Ravi. I object to your abusive language here. Ravi Chivukula does not know me personally and has no inside information about me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, A few more clues - Don't checkout FB page so you retards pop up on friends suggestions, stop watching my videos from Virginia and Netherlands. Stop this perverse masochistic obsession on me. You are my Rakshasaa, my metaphorical demon of deception. Consider yourself lucky that I even deemed to spend this much time an old dumb pervert like you. STOP your malicious, evil campaign here. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Shut the fuck up Stephen, you little bitch before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania. You never responded to the little assignment I gave you sly motherfucker. On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:59 PM, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: Rick Archer likes the controversy. At least Ravi has the excuse of being mentally ill. Vaj is just as slanderous but he acts maliciously and in bad faith. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I agree with Doug. Ravi's continual slanderous, obscenity-laden posts drag this forum down into the sewer. He should be expelled from this forum without delay. It is one thing to have serious, even angry disputes with
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
Xeno, thanks, again. I understood what you've written, though by the time I get around to posting another photo, I'm sure I will have forgotten (but perhaps not, you never know). Now the photo, fwiw, is up and available. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: This is your image in the rich text editor: What I did here was click on the little box at the bottom in the lower left hand corner of editor called view HTML source and insert the following: img src=http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veroni\ ca.jpg The and define the start and end points an HTML element for images 'img' defines it is an image. 'src' means 'source replaced content' which is the web address of the location of the image, because the image is not in the post, the web page on the forum pulls the image in from its location on the web. The equal sign means the source of the replaced content is the address on the other side of the equal sign. The address is in double quotes. You always have to use the full address including the http:// It might be good to try to put the image in first, if you see all the stuff and the messy HTML that the editor makes in this source view, you may not know where to put it in. Let me know if you understand this or not. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Now that the image is on the photo section of the forum can you find its address on your iPad. This is the address as I got it on my computer: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veronica.jp\ g I am also going to reply to this email using the rich text editor in a separate post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Thanks for the suggestions [from Barry and also Xeno]; I tried the create a new photo album idea and see that I've created three, as yet empty albums, each entitled Fallback position.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
Family at Dinner, 1895; by Harry Buckwalter http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52615.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: I agree with Xeno, Curtisa and Barry on this point. susan --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So lets see if I have this right. When you send me a Facebook friend request, and look at your page, then turn it down, it is me obsessing on you. If you post a link and I look at it, I am being perverse... Your language is inappropriately obscene and harsh for a public board like this Ravi. I object to your abusive language here. Ravi Chivukula does not know me personally and has no inside information about me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, A few more clues - Don't checkout FB page so you retards pop up on friends suggestions, stop watching my videos from Virginia and Netherlands. Stop this perverse masochistic obsession on me. You are my Rakshasaa, my metaphorical demon of deception. Consider yourself lucky that I even deemed to spend this much time an old dumb pervert like you. STOP your malicious, evil campaign here. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Shut the fuck up Stephen, you little bitch before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania. You never responded to the little assignment I gave you sly motherfucker. On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:59 PM, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: Rick Archer likes the controversy. At least Ravi has the excuse of being mentally ill. Vaj is just as slanderous but he acts maliciously and in bad faith. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Raunchy caught some fire I remember, and she fired right back in her usual entertaining way. I don't know who you are talking about that needs protection. I see a lot of people who deserve what he dishes out and sometimes, even when it seems prematurely harsh at first, his analysis of new posters ends up seeming prescient in retrospect. This is an interesting comment, Curtis. I own up to my occasional harshness, but I also think I've been, as you say, nigh-unto-prescient about some of the posters on this forum. This is true, you have a good sense of this, The reason is that what I look for is not what the posters in question are saying in words, but what the *intent* seems to be behind those words -- WHY they're saying it in the first place. Several new arrivals in the last year or so have instantly struck me as being in it for the attention. Their whole act from the first moment they appeared reeked of what I call attention vampirism. When I see that, my first reaction is to try not to give them any. When they then add mentally ill into the mix, I try to avoid them entirely. One of the things that I think distinguishes my comments from others here is that I tend to focus on the forest and not on individual trees. I spot TRENDS. Many of the people I end up criticizing (and yes, sometimes harshly) don't seem to be able to do that. They get so focused on the moment, and the putdown or gotcha they're trying to achieve *in* that moment that they lose sight of the fact that they have run the exact same gotcha number dozens of times in the last couple of months. The routine never changes, only the particulars. Becoming obsessed with another poster, to the point of not even being able to *realize* that one has become obsessed, does not strike me as sane behavior. Being literally *unable* to control oneself, and compelled to keep playing gotcha even if it means one has to post out to do so does not strike me as sane behavior. Writing tens of thousands of words trying desperately to get someone to argue with you who has said he has no interest in arguing with you does not strike me as sane behavior. Writing like one is trying to demonstrate the textbook definition of hypomania does not strike me as sane behavior. In short, a few people on this forum strike me as not sane. I have chosen to ignore them, and what they write. They have chosen to keep attacking me, and to expand their attacks to anyone who either agrees with me or admits to liking some of the things I write. They seem to feel that this is both justified, and rational. But again, it does not strike me as sane behavior.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --beyond the bounds of what is expected, usual, normal, or appropriate There's also the Crazy Wisdom tradition, as you most likely know; and the Advahuts zarzari talks about. I find it funny you quote me (indirectly I know), where I just had criticized you for your alignment with Ravi (and Robin!). No, I don't think Ravi is an Avadhut, because Avadhuts are not internet trolling. What makes Avadhuts so special, and a matter of interest for serious seekers, is the fact that they are the opposite of attention sluts. If Avadhuts are abusive, and they can be abusive, they do so to chase you away, because they want to be left alone, and not because they want to attract attention. Most Avadhuts live on streets, many do so very purposefully, some refuse to take up comfortable homes. The main thing about them is their total independence. The Gita, II 57 says: The wisdom of that person remains established who has no attachment for anything anywhere, who neither praises nor hates anything whatever, good or evil, when he comes across it. This is a verse following II 55, where Maharishis commentary occurs, that there are no OUTWARD signs of the enlightenment of a person. But that doesn't mean that one is asked to bestow the title of enlightenment onto about anyone who demands so. It doesn't mean that one should throw all attempts of discrimination overboard. No Avadhuta I know about actually claims enlightenment! It's just so un-avadhuta to do so. My friend, who met many Avadhutas, and who let me to some (he is going to write a book about it), met one Avadhuta, who was struck by another man at his arm. He didn't react at all, he just looked at his arm, as if this was a foreign object! So, if you say, that Avadhutas can react crazy, and can react abusive, it certainly doesn't mean, that if you react crazy and abusive, that you are an Avadhuta! And it doesn't mean that someone who claims enlightenment, and reacts crazy is an Avadhuta! If you would see a complete desinterest, of lets say, who praises him, and who denounces him, that could be a sign of an Avadhuta. If you could see a total lack of making any career, as an 'enlightened' or becoming a famous writer, he could be an Avadhuta, but then he would not be here around. Can't imagine an Avadhuta making 50 posts exactly, then stopping to come back with one or two videos! Can't think of an Avadhuta trying to create alliances on an internet forum! So, IMHO, what one should do is apply common sense, and occam's razor, and it is much more likely that Ravi has the problems he talks about. I remember Maharishi talking on TTC, giving an example of a lady, who claimed to another CP to be in CC, and asked him to marry her! He warned everyone that one should not take such claims serious. If somebody claims enlightenment, especially on a public forum like this, I would take it always take it with a grain of salt, because why should anyone want to do that? Occam's razor means that on a spiritual forum, such claims are more easily attempts at self exaltion. So, the explanation, that we cannot determine purely from outside signs if someone is enlightened or not, is true on a sort of absolute level, but it is not very practical. The term enlightenment itself is a very conceptual term, and most enlighteneds I know about, don't like it, and wouldn't want to apply it to themselves. It's like the carrot on the stick, just a goal you project into the future. All the experiences people associate with BIG E can be faked. What I accuse you of Judy, is not that you have explicitly confirmed the BIG E of either two candidates, but your quite obvious double standard in treating people like this. That is to say, if Ravi throws some junk words in the direction of TM and MMY, you somehow don't intercept in the same way, you would do as with Curtis or Barry. But Curtis and Barry could be just as enlightened as Ravi or Robin, according to your statement from the Gita, what gives? It's just the same, we all could be enlightened, I could be enlightened for that matter (and I even remember that you once called me out for it, that I, as an enlightened would argue to you like this would be unfair, lol) And of course, I am totally on Curtis' side in this whole Ravi affair. He should be either expelled, or all his abusive allegations should be deleted, and this should be at least treated as somebody overposting. Someone making 51 posts must wait for a week, but he, abusing Curtis in this way gets a pass! With regard to Robin, I'd like to point out, that Maharishi said, that an enlightened can only be recognized by someone being at least in the same state. So, Judy, you brilliant championeer of logic, when Maharishi declares that Robin is NOT in unity and never was, (and that is what is publicly known AFAIK, for former supposed statements we have to trust
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
Ravi should be given a warning by the moderator and then unsubscribed if he persists in his unacceptable behavior, which is dragging this forum down into the gutter. It is all very well for Alex to say just filter him out, but he takes up too much space to do that, given all his posts and the various responses to them. Other threads get drowned out by this acting-out, narcissistic adolescent whose only conversation is about himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: I agree with Xeno, Curtisa and Barry on this point. susan --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So lets see if I have this right. When you send me a Facebook friend request, and look at your page, then turn it down, it is me obsessing on you. If you post a link and I look at it, I am being perverse... Your language is inappropriately obscene and harsh for a public board like this Ravi. I object to your abusive language here. Ravi Chivukula does not know me personally and has no inside information about me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, A few more clues - Don't checkout FB page so you retards pop up on friends suggestions, stop watching my videos from Virginia and Netherlands. Stop this perverse masochistic obsession on me. You are my Rakshasaa, my metaphorical demon of deception. Consider yourself lucky that I even deemed to spend this much time an old dumb pervert like you. STOP your malicious, evil campaign here. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Shut the fuck up Stephen, you little bitch before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania. You never responded to the little assignment I gave you sly
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. I find 90% of Ravi's posts amusing and interesting. Compared to 90% of the posts from Curtis which I find brimming with boring self-adorations, disgusting moralism or rants against God or Maharishi from an ego on the verge of exploding in self-importance. So there ! :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
On Jan 9, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. He should just leave. If he won't leave on his own accord the moderators should decide to protect the contributors here and opt for the greater good, and boot him. He's far exceeded appropriate limits. And there is no Crazy Wisdom tradition - that was just made up by some drunk, boozing womanizers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. I see you have not taken a position for or against here Barry, and aloofness is a valid response leaving you free of commitment. Since I wrote the above it has one vote. Only in a dictatorship is that the majority vote. 'Then live with it'. Hey flip flopping is a major political strategy. I think the emphasis here is a bit over played. Curtis is the one dealing with this. As Mark Twain said Misfortune is easy to bear. Another man's, that is. So do you agree with this statement? After all, it is an opinion, my preference in this case. If you were the butt of Ravi's attention, I think you would just ignore him. Other matters: I have not seen the 'Girl with the Dragon Tattoo', being among squeamish company for the moment. I did see 'Let the Right One In', and, 'Let Me In'. I felt the Swedish film was better. It looks like a really low budget film, but there were some high tech effects scenes which fit in perfectly and gave it a more creepy quality than the American remake, where such effects seemed a bit less imaginative, less subtle or well thought out even as they replicated the Swedish version. I seem to remember a creepy scene with cats that I did not see in the American version, but maybe I walked out of the room to get a cup of coffee or something. It is seldom a remake brings an improvement, especially in a short time span. Over larger spans of time, as social mores change, acting styles change, technology changes, a remake might score better with a contemporary audience, but if a film is really good, one overlooks those things. 'Let the Right One In' is a beautiful love story, but I wonder how many can see what is going to become of the boy as he ages and she does not. We know from the beginning, but the wonderful emotional tone of the film might tend to dull the perception of the ramifications of this link up. Chloe Moretz is cute but the Swedish girl is much more mysterious. Moretz was perfect for her role Hit Girl in Kick-Ass, one of the most fun movies I have ever seen (though some think it is sick, sick, sick); she is very talented, and looks as if she will survive being just a childhood actress.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
On Jan 9, 2012, at 4:30 PM, feste37 wrote: Ravi should be given a warning by the moderator and then unsubscribed if he persists in his unacceptable behavior, which is dragging this forum down into the gutter. It is all very well for Alex to say just filter him out, but he takes up too much space to do that, given all his posts and the various responses to them. Other threads get drowned out by this acting-out, narcissistic adolescent whose only conversation is about himself. Well it's interesting how far the same 'balls to the walls 'tude got him on a largely Hindu jyotish list: they enumerated the karmic flaws in his chart (he has the chart of a criminal, in multiple places) and then booted him after a well mannered tongue lashing! Ravi please post your space time coordinates of birth! ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: He should just leave. If he won't leave on his own accord the moderators should decide to protect the contributors here and opt for the greater good, and boot him. He's far exceeded appropriate limits. Ravi is gone.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --beyond the bounds of what is expected, usual, normal, or appropriate There's also the Crazy Wisdom tradition, as you most likely know; and the Advahuts zarzari talks about. I find it funny you quote me (indirectly I know), where I just had criticized you for your alignment with Ravi (and Robin!). No, I don't think Ravi is an Avadhut, because Avadhuts are not internet trolling. What makes Avadhuts so special, and a matter of interest for serious seekers, is the fact that they are the opposite of attention sluts. If Avadhuts are abusive, and they can be abusive, they do so to chase you away, because they want to be left alone, and not because they want to attract attention. Most Avadhuts live on streets, many do so very purposefully, some refuse to take up comfortable homes. The main thing about them is their total independence. The Gita, II 57 says: The wisdom of that person remains established who has no attachment for anything anywhere, who neither praises nor hates anything whatever, good or evil, when he comes across it. This is a verse following II 55, where Maharishis commentary occurs, that there are no OUTWARD signs of the enlightenment of a person. But that doesn't mean that one is asked to bestow the title of enlightenment onto about anyone who demands so. It doesn't mean that one should throw all attempts of discrimination overboard. No Avadhuta I know about actually claims enlightenment! It's just so un-avadhuta to do so. My friend, who met many Avadhutas, and who let me to some (he is going to write a book about it), met one Avadhuta, who was struck by another man at his arm. He didn't react at all, he just looked at his arm, as if this was a foreign object! So, if you say, that Avadhutas can react crazy, and can react abusive, it certainly doesn't mean, that if you react crazy and abusive, that you are an Avadhuta! And it doesn't mean that someone who claims enlightenment, and reacts crazy is an Avadhuta! If you would see a complete desinterest, of lets say, who praises him, and who denounces him, that could be a sign of an Avadhuta. If you could see a total lack of making any career, as an 'enlightened' or becoming a famous writer, he could be an Avadhuta, but then he would not be here around. Can't imagine an Avadhuta making 50 posts exactly, then stopping to come back with one or two videos! Can't think of an Avadhuta trying to create alliances on an internet forum! So, IMHO, what one should do is apply common sense, and occam's razor, and it is much more likely that Ravi has the problems he talks about. I remember Maharishi talking on TTC, giving an example of a lady, who claimed to another CP to be in CC, and asked him to marry her! He warned everyone that one should not take such claims serious. If somebody claims enlightenment, especially on a public forum like this, I would take it always take it with a grain of salt, because why should anyone want to do that? Occam's razor means that on a spiritual forum, such claims are more easily attempts at self exaltion. So, the explanation, that we cannot determine purely from outside signs if someone is enlightened or not, is true on a sort of absolute level, but it is not very practical. The term enlightenment itself is a very conceptual term, and most enlighteneds I know about, don't like it, and wouldn't want to apply it to themselves. It's like the carrot on the stick, just a goal you project into the future. All the experiences people associate with BIG E can be faked. What I accuse you of Judy, is not that you have explicitly confirmed the BIG E of either two candidates, but your quite obvious double standard in treating people like this. In fact, you should know, that Ravi takes clues from you whom to abuse, and whom to spare. As long as you had backed me up, he never mentioned me in an abusive way. The moment you started to become critical at me, and switched to your 'get-Barry' mode,(which actually started first in our off-board exchange after two posts), he started abusing me That is to say, if Ravi throws some junk words in the direction of TM and MMY, you somehow don't intercept in the same way, you would do as with Curtis or Barry. But Curtis and Barry could be just as enlightened as Ravi or Robin, according to your statement from the Gita, what gives? It's just the same, we all could be enlightened, I could be enlightened for that matter (and I even remember that you once called me out for it, that I, as an enlightened would argue to you like this would be unfair, lol) And of course, I am totally on Curtis' side in this whole Ravi affair. He should be either expelled, or all his abusive allegations should be deleted, and this should
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: Ravi should be given a warning by the moderator and then unsubscribed if he persists in his unacceptable behavior, which is dragging this forum down into the gutter. It is all very well for Alex to say just filter him out, but he takes up too much space to do that, given all his posts and the various responses to them. Other threads get drowned out by this acting-out, narcissistic adolescent whose only conversation is about himself. Speaking of gutter, why don't you include the writings of Curtis, Vaj and sometimes the Turg (though the latter has admittedly been on self-moderation for some time, subdued by Judy, Jim et. al) ? Relax feste, you take what Ravi writes much too literally.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
On Jan 9, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: He should just leave. If he won't leave on his own accord the moderators should decide to protect the contributors here and opt for the greater good, and boot him. He's far exceeded appropriate limits. Ravi is gone. Thanks guys.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
Of course Curtis would know Ravi if Ravi has something to offer him. : ) ; ) I do not object to the language Ravi uses. This is not the Disney Channel. The bible has more harsh words and weird sacrifices in it. On the other hand...lol I do object to bestiality on account of cross dressing bacteria and viruses from human to animal contact. The prairie dog thing is a bit over the top. If a large man was to penetrate a prairie dog, it would kill the poor thing, bleeding all over. So I object to the jokes of bestiality. Sick puppies. Yuck. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: So lets see if I have this right. When you send me a Facebook friend request, and look at your page, then turn it down, it is me obsessing on you. If you post a link and I look at it, I am being perverse... Your language is inappropriately obscene and harsh for a public board like this Ravi. I object to your abusive language here. Ravi Chivukula does not know me personally and has no inside information about me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, A few more clues - Don't checkout FB page so you retards pop up on friends suggestions, stop watching my videos from Virginia and Netherlands. Stop this perverse masochistic obsession on me. You are my Rakshasaa, my metaphorical demon of deception. Consider yourself lucky that I even deemed to spend this much time an old dumb pervert like you. STOP your malicious, evil campaign here. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Shut the fuck up Stephen, you little bitch before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania. You never responded to the little assignment I gave you sly motherfucker. On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:59 PM, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: Rick Archer likes the controversy. At least Ravi has the excuse of being mentally ill. Vaj is just as slanderous but he acts maliciously and in bad faith. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I agree with Doug. Ravi's continual slanderous, obscenity-laden posts drag this forum down into the sewer. He should be expelled from this forum without delay. It is one thing to have serious, even angry disputes with people, but the other feuding parties here avoid excesses such as those demonstrated almost every day by Ravi. If the moderators have any respect for their own forum, they should take action on this issue. If Ravi wants to indulge in his absurd, offensive adolescent fantasies he should find another place to do it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sizing a tiny pond: estimating the number of current TM meditators in the U.S.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Doughney mike@ wrote: The latest article at the TM-Free Blog: Crunching the Facebook Numbers: How Many Meditators Are There? http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2012/01/crunching-facebook-numbers-meditator\ s.html Excerpt: Through use of an advertising targeting tool on Facebook, it's possible to measure the popularity of a number of topics related to Transcendental Meditation across age groups, and thus extrapolate from that sampling of Facebook users to the general population. This method suggests that only about 60,000 people in the United States have any current interest in these topics, which is a tiny fraction of the one million meditators that the TM movement claims currently live in the United States. Watching the DLF videos gives me the impression that it's mostly Afro-Americans that nowadays learn TM... Oh bama lama, doobie doo... ;D (Just for fun, not to be taken all too seriously...) The Aryans who were much fairer in colour than the aborigines of India are the Devas referred to in the name Devanagari (from 'div' - to shine, those of brilliant complexion); and Nagari [~urban -- card] means the Aryan settlements with the precincts of which the sacred language was spoken. -- M.R. Kale, Higher Sanskrit Grammar So, the importers of the Vedic culture were whitish people from way up North, but the most distinguished representatives of the Vedic culture of India nowadays might be amongst the Dravidian rather dark skinned, tropical(?) Indians from the Southern regions of India. I believe even the Great Shankara had some Dravidian language as His native tongue, or, then again, perhaps not... My wild guess is over 75% of the TM teachers of the 60's and 70's were Caucasian, but it seems like very soon most of the active US TMers shall be of African American and perhaps also of Latin American origin! :D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
On Jan 9, 2012, at 5:03 PM, obbajeeba wrote: Of course Curtis would know Ravi if Ravi has something to offer him. : ) ; ) I do not object to the language Ravi uses. This is not the Disney Channel. The bible has more harsh words and weird sacrifices in it. On the other hand...lol Unfortunately enlightenment means waking up…and growing up. Since we're not a consortium of baby-sitters, it's not our role to help you grow up. But if you're acting like a child, or a teenager, etc., you ain't very integrally enlightened. Appropriate behavior rises with consciousness. As the yogis say: rise with the View and descend with the Conduct. Otherwise we just become unwilling witnesses to cosmic carpet burn.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: Ravi should be given a warning by the moderator and then unsubscribed if he persists in his unacceptable behavior, which is dragging this forum down into the gutter. Yeah. Just like Californication and TM http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=XEbcuxuDYV4#t=1099s Yeah. And DL and TM. Yeah, dragging it down. Down with Ravi too! Wait! We can fix this!: Ravi, sweetie, I did my program this morning, the TM-Sidhi's program and I am about to do my afternoon TM-Sidhis program. You should try it. It feels good and it works! (as seen on Oprah and the Beatles do/did it too!) Okay, there. Now Ravi is not abusing space on this forum, with all the trailing followers of Ravi, I have helped make it pure. Free TM commercials added to Ravi's posts. Add as a signature! It is all very well for Alex to say just filter him out, but he takes up too much space to do that, given all his posts and the various responses to them. I like reading them. I like participating with them. I like reading Barry posts and Judy posts and I have to figure out if I like your posts, though. : / Other threads get drowned out by this acting-out, narcissistic adolescent whose only conversation is about himself. Gives me a lift to start my day after a good morning and afternoon meditation (TM-registered trademark), reminding me the world still needs me to meditate, everyday. : ) Where is the conversation only about himself? Weird complaint. Heck I even like reading Curtis posts and Zebra masking tape posts too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: I agree with Xeno, Curtisa and Barry on this point. susan --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So lets see if I have this right. When you send me a Facebook friend request, and look at your page, then turn it down, it is me obsessing on you. If you post a link and I look at it, I am being perverse... Your language is inappropriately obscene and harsh for a public board like this Ravi. I object to your abusive language here. Ravi Chivukula does not know me personally and has no inside information about me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, A few more clues - Don't checkout FB page so you retards pop up on friends suggestions, stop watching my videos from Virginia and Netherlands. Stop this perverse masochistic obsession on me. You are my Rakshasaa, my metaphorical demon of deception. Consider yourself lucky that I even deemed to spend this much time an old dumb pervert like you. STOP your malicious, evil campaign here. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --beyond the bounds of what is expected, usual, normal, or appropriate There's also the Crazy Wisdom tradition, as you most likely know; and the Advahuts zarzari talks about. I find it funny you quote me (indirectly I know), where I just had criticized you for your alignment with Ravi (and Robin!). You find it funny why, exactly? No, I don't think Ravi is an Avadhut I didn't say he was, zarzari. I was just pointing out to Xeno that people can mean many different things by the word mad, not all of them negative. snip This is a verse following II 55, where Maharishis commentary occurs, that there are no OUTWARD signs of the enlightenment of a person. But that doesn't mean that one is asked to bestow the title of enlightenment onto about anyone who demands so. It doesn't mean that one should throw all attempts of discrimination overboard. Right. And since I don't bestow the title of enlightenment onto anyone who demands it, this is relevant to my position how? snip So, if you say, that Avadhutas can react crazy, and can react abusive, it certainly doesn't mean, that if you react crazy and abusive, that you are an Avadhuta! And it doesn't mean that someone who claims enlightenment, and reacts crazy is an Avadhuta! snark Gosh, really?? end snark Why are you directing this rather obvious point at me, as if it were something I wasn't aware of? snip What I accuse you of Judy, is not that you have explicitly confirmed the BIG E of either two candidates, but your quite obvious double standard in treating people like this. That is to say, if Ravi throws some junk words in the direction of TM and MMY, you somehow don't intercept in the same way, you would do as with Curtis or Barry. And you figure I do this why? Can you think of any other possible reasons why I might do it? Can you think of any reasons that might not involve a double standard? But Curtis and Barry could be just as enlightened as Ravi or Robin, according to your statement from the Gita, what gives? Sure. What gives with what? It's just the same, we all could be enlightened, I could be enlightened for that matter (and I even remember that you once called me out for it, that I, as an enlightened would argue to you like this would be unfair, lol) Don't recall that. Perhaps in your earlier incarnation here? And of course, I am totally on Curtis' side in this whole Ravi affair. Of course you are. He should be either expelled, or all his abusive allegations should be deleted, and this should be at least treated as somebody overposting. Someone making 51 posts must wait for a week, but he, abusing Curtis in this way gets a pass! I don't believe Curtis has recommended any of the above, actually. With regard to Robin, I'd like to point out, that Maharishi said, that an enlightened can only be recognized by someone being at least in the same state. So, Judy, you brilliant championeer of logic, when Maharishi declares that Robin is NOT in unity and never was, (and that is what is publicly known AFAIK, for former supposed statements we have to trust Robin), Not necessarily. Some of them may have been made in public to course participants. According to Robin, MMY asked him to describe his experiences to the CPs after Arosa and confirmed him as the first Governor of the Age of Enlightenment because he was in Unity. I'd imagine those who were present would remember it, assuming Robin didn't make it all up. the either Maharishi wasn't enlightened, or Robin wasn't. Your choice. I think *I* actually said that in one of my discussions with you. checking the archive Yes, indeed I did. From #299706, Christmas Day, only a little over two weeks ago: - Robin, for all his critics of eastern systems, is still attached and in love with his 'enlightenment' past, you can see this in his posts, where he makes sure, everyboy gets the point that he was 'really enlightened', 'really in unity'. (For any TMer this proves that TM leads in fact to unity as MMY describes). It isn't as MMY described if he can throw it all off and become de-enlightened, going back to mere waking state! This claim is a *challenge* to TMers, not any kind of confirmation. Either Robin never was in Unity, or MMY was very wrong about the whole enchilada--or, I suppose, Robin is still in Unity but thinks he isn't. There's just no way to fit any of these possibilities into the TM model. - So I guess I was a brilliant championeer of logic even before you were. Could be I even gave you the idea you believe you're challenging me with. (By whole enchilada, I was referring to MMY's whole system, not just Robin's state of consciousness.) And there's yet another possibility: that MMY was lying, either when he said Robin was in Unity or when he said he wasn't. He'd have had a
[FairfieldLife] The ultimate guitar capo
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
Great painting, looks real. Looks like me just the other night when I got between the neighbor's bull and one of my heifers. He came over for a visit. Was very extremely dramatic. I did persuade him to get back through the fence to his side. Took a lot of flourish and subtle energy. Was nearly dark and no crowd saw it, so no cheer other than my cow dog's. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: This is your image in the rich text editor: What I did here was click on the little box at the bottom in the lower left hand corner of editor called view HTML source and insert the following: img src=http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veroni\ ca.jpg The and define the start and end points an HTML element for images 'img' defines it is an image. 'src' means 'source replaced content' which is the web address of the location of the image, because the image is not in the post, the web page on the forum pulls the image in from its location on the web. The equal sign means the source of the replaced content is the address on the other side of the equal sign. The address is in double quotes. You always have to use the full address including the http:// It might be good to try to put the image in first, if you see all the stuff and the messy HTML that the editor makes in this source view, you may not know where to put it in. Let me know if you understand this or not. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Now that the image is on the photo section of the forum can you find its address on your iPad. This is the address as I got it on my computer: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veronica.jp\ g I am also going to reply to this email using the rich text editor in a separate post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Thanks for the suggestions [from Barry and also Xeno]; I tried the create a new photo album idea and see that I've created three, as yet empty albums, each entitled Fallback position.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: snip And there is no Crazy Wisdom tradition - that was just made up by some drunk, boozing womanizers. Crazy wisdom, also known as holy madness, is a manifestation of certain spiritual adepts where they behave in unconventional, outrageous, or unexpected fashion. It is considered to be a manifestation of spiritual accomplishment evident in such Dharmic Traditions as Sanatana Dharma, Tantra, Vajrayana, Zen amongst other traditions such as Sufi, Bonpo, Taoism and Russian Orthodoxy for example and is often evident in human cultural spiritual universals such as shamanism. Crazy wisdom is also a modality of communication, in which the adept employs esoteric and seemingly unspiritual methods to awaken an aspirant's consciousness The Holy Adi Shankracharya also described that an enlightened man may act like a Jadvat (like a inert thing), a Balvat (like a child), an Unmat (like a manic) or a Pissachvat (ghost). (The sentence above was added near the bottom of the page, between the Notes and the References, and has no citation. Somebody may have snuck it in unapproved, and it may be bogus.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_wisdom Holy Madness: Portraits of Tantric Siddhas, by Robert N. Linrothe: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/holy-madness-robert-n-linrothe/1007770261 http://tinyurl.com/7o27x3p Holy Madness: The Shock Tactics and Radical Teachings of Crazy-Wise Adepts, Holy Fools and Rascal Gurus, by Georg Feuerstein and Roger Walsh: http://www.amazon.com/Holy-Madness-Tactics-Teachings-Crazy-Wise/dp/0140193707/ref=sr_1_11?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1326149463sr=1-11 http://tinyurl.com/72b5sql Crazy Wisdom: What the Ancient Rebbes Offer Our Times, interview with Rabbi Rami Shapiro: http://www.spiritualityandpractice.com/ecourses/features.php?id=20044 Etc., etc., etc.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: He should just leave. If he won't leave on his own accord the moderators should decide to protect the contributors here and opt for the greater good, and boot him. He's far exceeded appropriate limits. Ravi is gone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33nvfGlDB8I Good bye, Ravi. Hugs and kisses. Thank you for showing the white man what hipocracy is. But if you donate a bunch of money to the forum, you may get your spot back. ; )
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: He should just leave. If he won't leave on his own accord the moderators should decide to protect the contributors here and opt for the greater good, and boot him. He's far exceeded appropriate limits. Ravi is gone. Hmmm. Does that mean we can get others who tell lies and use vulgar language about participants here thrown out as well?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
Feeling the power of animals is really fine, isn't it? You're fortunate to have that type of exposure on a regular basis. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Great painting, looks real. Looks like me just the other night when I got between the neighbor's bull and one of my heifers. He came over for a visit. Was very extremely dramatic. I did persuade him to get back through the fence to his side. Took a lot of flourish and subtle energy. Was nearly dark and no crowd saw it, so no cheer other than my cow dog's. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: This is your image in the rich text editor: What I did here was click on the little box at the bottom in the lower left hand corner of editor called view HTML source and insert the following: img src=http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veroni\ ca.jpg The and define the start and end points an HTML element for images 'img' defines it is an image. 'src' means 'source replaced content' which is the web address of the location of the image, because the image is not in the post, the web page on the forum pulls the image in from its location on the web. The equal sign means the source of the replaced content is the address on the other side of the equal sign. The address is in double quotes. You always have to use the full address including the http:// It might be good to try to put the image in first, if you see all the stuff and the messy HTML that the editor makes in this source view, you may not know where to put it in. Let me know if you understand this or not. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Now that the image is on the photo section of the forum can you find its address on your iPad. This is the address as I got it on my computer: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veronica.jp\ g I am also going to reply to this email using the rich text editor in a separate post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Thanks for the suggestions [from Barry and also Xeno]; I tried the create a new photo album idea and see that I've created three, as yet empty albums, each entitled Fallback position.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: snip In fact, you should know, that Ravi takes clues from you whom to abuse, and whom to spare. As long as you had backed me up, he never mentioned me in an abusive way. The moment you started to become critical at me, and switched to your 'get-Barry' mode,(which actually started first in our off-board exchange after two posts), he started abusing me Yes, this is the Troika's party line whenever someone other than me begins to criticize any of them; we've seen it many, many times. I believe Barry originated it some time ago. How nice to see you've picked up on as well. I'm sure you'll get a lot of use out of it. Implicit in it is the premise that nobody would *ever* come independently to any negative conclusions about any of the Troika and their allies; it wouldn't ever even occur to anybody that there was anything to be criticized about them if I hadn't spoken up. In this case, Ravi could *never* have read your exchange with Barry speculating about Robin's mental health and thought ill of you for it unless he'd gotten it from me. Right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: I find 90% of Ravi's posts amusing and interesting. Compared to 90% of the posts from Curtis which I find brimming with boring self-adorations, disgusting moralism or rants against God or Maharishi from an ego on the verge of exploding in self-importance. So there ! :-) Your post kind of illustrates the difference doesn't it Nabbie? Your post was much more thoughtfully insulting than anything he ever wrote, but you did it in a totally non-malicious way. You didn't drop a bunch of F bombs and MF bombs and you didn't accuse me of something false that could hurt me in real life. You got your buzz from putting me down but no animals or humans were hurt in the making of your insults. I think rpost reflects the more thoughtful nature of the place. But that is just my opinion and now the tribe and tribal leaders have spoken. And there are no winners here. I have always believed that we were dealing with a betrayal of brain chemistry so I can only wish him well on his rocky road ahead. Kids road even rockier. This is no cause for celebration for me. But I'm glad the change was made. I suspect it caused everyone to consider what line we want to encircle us as we gather here for conversation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. I find 90% of Ravi's posts amusing and interesting. Compared to 90% of the posts from Curtis which I find brimming with boring self-adorations, disgusting moralism or rants against God or Maharishi from an ego on the verge of exploding in self-importance. So there ! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: I find 90% of Ravi's posts amusing and interesting. Compared to 90% of the posts from Curtis which I find brimming with boring self-adorations, disgusting moralism or rants against God or Maharishi from an ego on the verge of exploding in self-importance. So there ! :-) Your post kind of illustrates the difference doesn't it Nabbie? Your post was much more thoughtfully insulting than anything he ever wrote, but you did it in a totally non-malicious way. You didn't drop a bunch of F bombs and MF bombs and you didn't accuse me of something false that could hurt me in real life. You got your buzz from putting me down but no animals or humans were hurt in the making of your insults. I think rpost reflects the more thoughtful nature of the place. But that is just my opinion and now the tribe and tribal leaders have spoken. And there are no winners here. I have always believed that we were dealing with a betrayal of brain chemistry so I can only wish him well on his rocky road ahead. Kids road even rockier. This is no cause for celebration for me. But I'm glad the change was made. I suspect it caused everyone to consider what line we want to encircle us as we gather here for conversation. Fornication Under the Command of the King, You, Curtis. How dare you write about someone's mental health and diagnosing it without a license, after they are removed from the forum. That is one sad blues tune, dude. Shame on you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. I find 90% of Ravi's posts amusing and interesting. Compared to 90% of the posts from Curtis which I find brimming with boring self-adorations, disgusting moralism or rants against God or Maharishi from an ego on the verge of exploding in self-importance. So there ! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Fornication Under the Command of the King, You, Curtis. How dare you write about someone's mental health and diagnosing it without a license, after they are removed from the forum. That is one sad blues tune, dude. Shame on you. I diagnosed nothing. We know the facts of the situation from his own words. Without the wacky spiritual enabling, we had a sad case from the get go. And news flash, its all brain chemistry, including your ability to restrain yourself with an appropriate level of insult. So shame back on you. I consider my view to be much more compassionate than yours. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: I find 90% of Ravi's posts amusing and interesting. Compared to 90% of the posts from Curtis which I find brimming with boring self-adorations, disgusting moralism or rants against God or Maharishi from an ego on the verge of exploding in self-importance. So there ! :-) Your post kind of illustrates the difference doesn't it Nabbie? Your post was much more thoughtfully insulting than anything he ever wrote, but you did it in a totally non-malicious way. You didn't drop a bunch of F bombs and MF bombs and you didn't accuse me of something false that could hurt me in real life. You got your buzz from putting me down but no animals or humans were hurt in the making of your insults. I think rpost reflects the more thoughtful nature of the place. But that is just my opinion and now the tribe and tribal leaders have spoken. And there are no winners here. I have always believed that we were dealing with a betrayal of brain chemistry so I can only wish him well on his rocky road ahead. Kids road even rockier. This is no cause for celebration for me. But I'm glad the change was made. I suspect it caused everyone to consider what line we want to encircle us as we gather here for conversation. Fornication Under the Command of the King, You, Curtis. How dare you write about someone's mental health and diagnosing it without a license, after they are removed from the forum. That is one sad blues tune, dude. Shame on you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. I find 90% of Ravi's posts amusing and interesting. Compared to 90% of the posts from Curtis which I find brimming with boring self-adorations, disgusting moralism or rants against God or Maharishi from an ego on the verge of exploding in self-importance. So there ! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Feeling the power of animals is really fine, isn't it? You're fortunate to have that type of exposure on a regular basis. *** Yeah, except that that painting of the dead toreador came to mind when first I realized what was coming in the darkening of the day. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Great painting, looks real. Looks like me just the other night when I got between the neighbor's bull and one of my heifers. He came over for a visit. Was very extremely dramatic. I did persuade him to get back through the fence to his side. Took a lot of flourish and subtle energy. Was nearly dark and no crowd saw it, so no cheer other than my cow dog's. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: This is your image in the rich text editor: What I did here was click on the little box at the bottom in the lower left hand corner of editor called view HTML source and insert the following: img src=http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veroni\ \ ca.jpg The and define the start and end points an HTML element for images 'img' defines it is an image. 'src' means 'source replaced content' which is the web address of the location of the image, because the image is not in the post, the web page on the forum pulls the image in from its location on the web. The equal sign means the source of the replaced content is the address on the other side of the equal sign. The address is in double quotes. You always have to use the full address including the http:// It might be good to try to put the image in first, if you see all the stuff and the messy HTML that the editor makes in this source view, you may not know where to put it in. Let me know if you understand this or not. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Now that the image is on the photo section of the forum can you find its address on your iPad. This is the address as I got it on my computer: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veronica.jp\ \ g I am also going to reply to this email using the rich text editor in a separate post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Thanks for the suggestions [from Barry and also Xeno]; I tried the create a new photo album idea and see that I've created three, as yet empty albums, each entitled Fallback position.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: Fornication Under the Command of the King, You, Curtis. How dare you write about someone's mental health and diagnosing it without a license, after they are removed from the forum. That is one sad blues tune, dude. Shame on you. I diagnosed nothing. We know the facts of the situation from his own words. Without the wacky spiritual enabling, we had a sad case from the get go. And news flash, its all brain chemistry, including your ability to restrain yourself with an appropriate level of insult. So shame back on you. I consider my view to be much more compassionate than yours. If freedom of speech never existed, the blues would have never existed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: I find 90% of Ravi's posts amusing and interesting. Compared to 90% of the posts from Curtis which I find brimming with boring self-adorations, disgusting moralism or rants against God or Maharishi from an ego on the verge of exploding in self-importance. So there ! :-) Your post kind of illustrates the difference doesn't it Nabbie? Your post was much more thoughtfully insulting than anything he ever wrote, but you did it in a totally non-malicious way. You didn't drop a bunch of F bombs and MF bombs and you didn't accuse me of something false that could hurt me in real life. You got your buzz from putting me down but no animals or humans were hurt in the making of your insults. I think rpost reflects the more thoughtful nature of the place. But that is just my opinion and now the tribe and tribal leaders have spoken. And there are no winners here. I have always believed that we were dealing with a betrayal of brain chemistry so I can only wish him well on his rocky road ahead. Kids road even rockier. This is no cause for celebration for me. But I'm glad the change was made. I suspect it caused everyone to consider what line we want to encircle us as we gather here for conversation. Fornication Under the Command of the King, You, Curtis. How dare you write about someone's mental health and diagnosing it without a license, after they are removed from the forum. That is one sad blues tune, dude. Shame on you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. I find 90% of Ravi's posts amusing and interesting. Compared to 90% of the posts from Curtis which I find brimming with boring self-adorations, disgusting moralism or rants against God or Maharishi from an ego on the verge of exploding in self-importance. So there ! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
Mystically insincereas always. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: While I do not object to Ravi's rants, I do feel he is exceeding social interaction limits, like a guest shitting on one's dining room table. So I support Curtis's position here. I think it prudent for Ravi to tone it down. It is not playful, and it is not helpful. I, for one, would love to see who agrees with this statement, and who does not. Step up to the line and declare your allegiance with Ravi, or do the opposite. Then live with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So lets see if I have this right. When you send me a Facebook friend request, and look at your page, then turn it down, it is me obsessing on you. If you post a link and I look at it, I am being perverse... Your language is inappropriately obscene and harsh for a public board like this Ravi. I object to your abusive language here. Ravi Chivukula does not know me personally and has no inside information about me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, A few more clues - Don't checkout FB page so you retards pop up on friends suggestions, stop watching my videos from Virginia and Netherlands. Stop this perverse masochistic obsession on me. You are my Rakshasaa, my metaphorical demon of deception. Consider yourself lucky that I even deemed to spend this much time an old dumb pervert like you. STOP your malicious, evil campaign here. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Curtis, fuck you and your malicious, retarded, perverted behavior, if Stephen had a problem he would tell me so, if you don't want people to know your real name please use a fake email id. So get a clue you dumb motherfucker. Love, Ravi On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:32 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Ravi you are once again going too far with your malicious intent here. Outing someone's full real name when they are using a handle is uncool and may have serious repercussions for their lives. Part of the freedom of expression here is supported by people's choice to decide if they want their POV here linked to the searchable internet. Your expressed intent to humiliate someone here is also out of line. I consider this post to be beyond the pail of interactions here. I have been contacted by people offlist who you have cowered with your aggressive malicious campaign. I speak for them and for myself in telling you that this behavior is not acceptable here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What a pathetic, miserable life my retarded psychologist (Name Deleted By Curtis), not a single experience, not a single person who acknowledges him, sucking furiously at TM and Prozac and drawing a blank..LOL..the only thing he looks forward to is my emails do he can at least get some attention, perverse satisfaction as I humiliate him, bitch slap him in my enlightened mania. Stephen, you little bitch, you made my day..LOL.. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: And yeah I looked at your picture on FB last year, you came up on my friend suggestions. Not only are you a retarded psychologist Stephen, you looked like a lifeless depressed son of a bitch on a cocktail of meds. I suppose they are free since you are so eager to suck Prozac Inc's dicks. On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Shut the fuck up Stephen, you little bitch before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania. You never responded to the little assignment I gave you sly motherfucker. On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:59 PM, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: Rick Archer likes the controversy. At least Ravi has the excuse of being mentally ill. Vaj is just as slanderous but he acts maliciously and in bad faith. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I agree with Doug. Ravi's continual slanderous, obscenity-laden posts drag this forum down into the sewer. He should be expelled from this forum without delay. It is one thing to have serious, even angry disputes with people, but the other
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: He should just leave. If he won't leave on his own accord the moderators should decide to protect the contributors here and opt for the greater good, and boot him. He's far exceeded appropriate limits. Ravi is gone. Hmmm. Does that mean we can get others who tell lies and use vulgar language about participants here thrown out as well? In Ravi's case, it was a combo of the non-stop abusive language and outing the real name of an anonymous poster. It takes a lot to get Rick to call for someone being booted, and Ravi managed to hit that limit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
I think it is a matter of degree. Ravi was a particularly egregious offender. No one else comes close, in my opinion. It's a judgment call. Maybe not everyone will agree, but I think the majority will. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: He should just leave. If he won't leave on his own accord the moderators should decide to protect the contributors here and opt for the greater good, and boot him. He's far exceeded appropriate limits. Ravi is gone. Hmmm. Does that mean we can get others who tell lies and use vulgar language about participants here thrown out as well?
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 07 00:00:00 2012 End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 14 00:00:00 2012 410 messages as of (UTC) Tue Jan 10 00:07:33 2012 47 Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com 44 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 37 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 35 authfriend jst...@panix.com 31 seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net 24 obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com 21 richardatrwilliamsdotus rich...@rwilliams.us 18 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 18 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com 15 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net 13 Susan waybac...@yahoo.com 11 zarzari_786 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 11 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 10 marekreavis reavisma...@sbcglobal.net 7 merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 7 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com 4 wgm4u anitaoak...@att.net 4 maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com 4 feste37 fest...@yahoo.com 4 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 3 sparaig lengli...@cox.net 3 shukra69 shukr...@yahoo.ca 3 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com 2 wleed3 wle...@aol.com 2 shanti2218411 shanti2218...@yahoo.com 2 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 2 mainstream20016 mainstream20...@yahoo.com 2 Mike Doughney m...@doughney.net 2 John jr_...@yahoo.com 2 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 ynorthr ynor...@yahoo.co.uk 1 shainm307 shainm...@yahoo.com 1 Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com 1 Shain McVay shainm...@yahoo.com 1 Paulo Barbosa tprob...@terra.com.br 1 Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
On Jan 9, 2012, at 7:07 PM, feste37 wrote: I think it is a matter of degree. Ravi was a particularly egregious offender. No one else comes close, in my opinion. It's a judgment call. Maybe not everyone will agree, but I think the majority will. Once again I find myself agreeing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fallback position
Dude! Excellent image and artist to reference! Manet has been a big influence for me and Media Veronica is very much in that painting tradition. That's very cool that you made the connection. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Feeling the power of animals is really fine, isn't it? You're fortunate to have that type of exposure on a regular basis. *** Yeah, except that that painting of the dead toreador came to mind when first I realized what was coming in the darkening of the day. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Great painting, looks real. Looks like me just the other night when I got between the neighbor's bull and one of my heifers. He came over for a visit. Was very extremely dramatic. I did persuade him to get back through the fence to his side. Took a lot of flourish and subtle energy. Was nearly dark and no crowd saw it, so no cheer other than my cow dog's. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: This is your image in the rich text editor: What I did here was click on the little box at the bottom in the lower left hand corner of editor called view HTML source and insert the following: img src=http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veroni\ \ ca.jpg The and define the start and end points an HTML element for images 'img' defines it is an image. 'src' means 'source replaced content' which is the web address of the location of the image, because the image is not in the post, the web page on the forum pulls the image in from its location on the web. The equal sign means the source of the replaced content is the address on the other side of the equal sign. The address is in double quotes. You always have to use the full address including the http:// It might be good to try to put the image in first, if you see all the stuff and the messy HTML that the editor makes in this source view, you may not know where to put it in. Let me know if you understand this or not. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Now that the image is on the photo section of the forum can you find its address on your iPad. This is the address as I got it on my computer: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3920196/sn/523187395/name/Media+veronica.jp\ \ g I am also going to reply to this email using the rich text editor in a separate post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Thanks for the suggestions [from Barry and also Xeno]; I tried the create a new photo album idea and see that I've created three, as yet empty albums, each entitled Fallback position.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Internet freedom converning Ravi's posts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: snip There's also the Crazy Wisdom tradition, as you most likely know; and the Advahuts zarzari talks about. I find it funny you quote me (indirectly I know), where I just had criticized you for your alignment with Ravi (and Robin!). You find it funny why, exactly? I just laugh at you, that's all. LOL snip And there's yet another possibility: that MMY was lying, either when he said Robin was in Unity or when he said he wasn't. He'd have had a motive for either, but perhaps a better one for saying Robin wasn't in Unity considering the havoc Robin had created at MIU. It was a quick way to dispose of the pesky lawsuit and get Robin out of the TMO's hair for good. It wouldn't be the first time MMY chucked a TMO star when they began to cause trouble, from what I've heard here and elsewhere. Now your mind-reading capabilities even extend to Maharishi. snip But from all, what I observe from you here, it is clear, that you have never been in the movement. As I've stated here explicitly many times, including to you. Did you have a point to make? Yes. Your whole behavior vis a vis Robin here *shows* that you have never been in the movement, as anyone could tell who has ever been. This is what the above sentence actually says, if you read it, you super-nitwit. So your little distraction here - no cigar. (Btw. an excellent demonstration of your deconstruction method.)
