[FairfieldLife] Re: San Bernardino broke-files for bankruptcy
This is the third California city that has filed bankruptcy. There is obviously something wrong with the economy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: City attorney said officials had falsified budget reports to the mayor and council for 13 of the last 16 years. Biggest expense?, pay and benefits for police and firefighters. UNION GREED! http://news.yahoo.com/san-bernardino-california-files-bankruptcy-over-1-billion-021606235--finance.html
[FairfieldLife] Poor man's Stevie Ray!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lB8cLq4SeAfeature=g-vrec The guy with the Sunburst Strat plays IMO quite a lot like SRV! (I think Miss Erja rushes a bit at one point...)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
Hey gals, don't feed a troll! :D
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Finally, a church for our times...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYUD6vs0pg4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYUD6vs0pg4 Your wish granted Turqouoiseb Be WrightWrong [:D] considered himself a Secular Quantum Mechanical Buddhist Mystic (SQMBM)but now thrilled to be an ordained Dudeist! [http://dudeism.com/generate_cert.php?name=B.%20turquoiseb%20Wright/Wron\ gdate=Wed%20Aug%201,%202012%2010:54%20pm] He is now a disciple of The Church of the Latter-Day Dude (Dudeism), a religion inspired by The Big Lebowski, Taoism, humanism and more. And less. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kL_cm7UOAofeature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kL_cm7UOAofeature=player_embedded%20 May The Dude Abide in all of us. [:D] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/548967_101511339\ \ 54390692_1025638471_n.jpg] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/post?referer=/group/Fairfiel\ \ dLife/use_rte=1 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/post?referer=/group/Fairfie\ \ ldLife/use_rte=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: I know many people who go to the dome and I cannot think of a single one who is controlled by the TMO. The whole idea seems ludicrous to me. I think it was cooked up by people who don't live here and have no real clue about the way things are in Fairfield. The TMO, through the dome programs (for which no charge is made), is in fact performing a service for the community. The reason the malcontents can't recognize this is because they can only see through the lens of their own negativity. Fundamentalist of all kinds who feel threatened by TM, on this forum particularily Buddhists.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Finally, a church for our times...
To show you how seriously I am taking my new role as an ordained minister of this church, I share with you a video I made. In it I audition faithful young seekers -- in costume -- for the all-important role of Holy Collection Plate Passers. As I speak from the pulpit and lighten people's cares by sharing with them the secrets of Dudeness, these girls will circulate among them and lighten their wallets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4T9DGjGAUw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4T9DGjGAUw --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYUD6vs0pg4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYUD6vs0pg4%20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYUD6vs0pg4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYUD6vs0pg4 Your wish granted Turqouoiseb Be WrightWrong [:D] considered himself a Secular Quantum Mechanical Buddhist Mystic (SQMBM)but now thrilled to be an ordained Dudeist! [http://dudeism.com/generate_cert.php?name=B.%20turquoiseb%20Wright/Wron\ gdate=Wed%20Aug%201,%202012%2010:54%20pm] He is now a disciple of The Church of the Latter-Day Dude (Dudeism), a religion inspired by The Big Lebowski, Taoism, humanism and more. And less. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kL_cm7UOAofeature=player_embedded%20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kL_cm7UOAofeature=player_embedded%20%2\ 0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kL_cm7UOAofeature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kL_cm7UOAofeature=player_embedded%20 May The Dude Abide in all of us.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:13 AM, awoelflebater wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. Oh Vaj, Vaj, Vaj. I was hardly innocent. I wasn't looking for anything except something unique, intelligent, exciting and new. So don't start defining categorically the characteristics of those who found and followed and engaged Mr Carlsen. I was no babe in the woods and hardly without smarts so you can just stuff that little assertion of yours back in the junk pile where it belongs. Well don't assume I was talking about you. I believe you had already graduated, no? It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. You groom horses Vaj. Or maybe it is you who is feeling the siren call of Robin. It would be for the first time then. Unfortunately I think you're a little late joining the queue. It wound itself down 25 years ago. But I have some great old pictures if you want to relive some great old times. I'd be happy to see them. Thanks for sharing. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!). What does this falling for it look like? Perhaps you are mistaking civilized exchange for adulation. I'm mere observing a old patterns I've seen before, no more, no less.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:14 AM, turquoiseb wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. And that's a given. One expects it. But what one doesn't expect is a cult leader, who leaves Neo-Vedism and joins...the Catholic church...only to later re-target his old audience...as they're probably the only ones interested in listeningvia email. Let's keep in mind, if this person were to set foot in Jefferson County, he'd be thrown into jail, no? So if you can't go to Fairfield you use email to get to your audience. I mean that has to be a first in and of itself: Fairfield guru using email lists to gain that lost adulation! Robin, by the grace of god, will you please manifest...atonement? TIA. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=EyH760MV3Ygfeature=endscreen --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mitF1kpMbvg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__ebR_8UKAYfeature=related --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: The examples you cite are not of people being controlled by the TMO. They are examples of people being excluded from the dome, which is quite different. No one is being controlled. People are making choices, that's all. If someone excludes you from their club, do you feel controlled? Depends, if the club is the place where I live my life, and if the club makes demands on my life style, and quite possible on my inner attitude, AND make this clear to me in unmistakeble terms, the execute control. TM is more than just a club they joined, which could be substituted by any other club around the corner at any time. It's a lifestyle, and it's a beliefsystem as well. You will notice this once you leave. While it makes sense that dome admins want and need to have everyone compliant if they are to actually be doing 'the same program at the same time'. The not-so-obvious downside of this is people who practice, say Buddhism or Sufism or whatever will have other spiritual teachers and other spiritual practices they do. If such a person is banned from the domes, they'd in effect be banning them from the practice of their own religion of choice. So much for TM not interfering with religion, huh? That's not to say the movement hasn't had problems with things like this before, sometimes from deliberate subterfuge. In the 80's Robin Carlsen created a faux-TM Sidhi practice called Technique for the Discovery of Grace, a bizarre variation of the TMSP, and then had MIU students go to the domes and practice it there, to deliberately stir the pot. Unfortunately Grace left Robin long ago for another man. :-(
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMnKEmPL_Dk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-y2LUh-9AA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25RAkXpQwnA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: While it makes sense that dome admins want and need to have everyone compliant if they are to actually be doing 'the same program at the same time'. The not-so-obvious downside of this is people who practice, say Buddhism or Sufism or whatever will have other spiritual teachers and other spiritual practices they do. If such a person is banned from the domes, they'd in effect be banning them from the practice of their own religion of choice. So much for TM not interfering with religion, huh? Interesting. I'm thinking not so much about people being kept from the domes because of their religious practices, but whether the dome program *itself* has ever been an issue for religious people. Say someone is a devout Muslim. They are supposed to pray at certain specified times of the day, without fail. What if the Muslim in question was participating in the dome program and the time for his Maghrib (sunset) prayer rolls around. Is he supposed to move to the side of the dome, spread out his prayer rug, and do his prayers there, before returning to the TM-siddhi program, or is he supposed to skip his Muslim prayers?
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: What's next? President Changes Military Funerals
From: tom...@windstream.net To: aloguid...@stny.rr.com, bob.g...@arcadis-us.com, daryl7...@hotmail.com, boot...@fairpoint.net, r...@cecomet.net, rfuller...@aol.com, schmit...@windstream.net, rsandr...@hvc.rr.com, sar...@rochester.rr.com, wle...@aol.com, bills...@juno.com, fr...@twcny.rr.com, dearest_dah...@yahoo.com, goebe...@yahoo.com, mlt7...@yahoo.com, boothe...@gmail.com, dan...@roadrunner.com, debster...@yahoo.com, j.dodd...@hotmail.com, pubb...@hotmail.com, b...@eagleradiotech.com, goe...@taconic.net, jan...@hotmail.com, lisk...@windstream.net, longlegs_...@yahoo.com, eagan1...@rochester.rr.com Sent: 8/1/2012 11:00:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Fw: Whatapos;s next? President Changes Military Funerals From: _lvsmith@windstream.net_ (mailto:lvsm...@windstream.net) Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:10 PM To: _Betty Lou Blixt_ (mailto:feema...@stny.rr.com) Subject: Fw: What's next? President Changes Military Funerals Subject: What's next? President Changes Military Funerals WBR this is about our loved ones that are willing to give their lives for country. he does not deserve any respect from our troops that are keeping him safe every day and this is what he dishes out.talk, about disrespect,he has none President changes Military funerals. Check with Snoopes... it is TRUE _http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/funeral.asp_ (http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/funeral.asp) There has been a change in U.S. military burial protocol! This is a letter that my good friend's husband wrote today after his uncle's funeral yesterday. If Obama does not want his name associated with our military, he does not deserve to be The President of the United States . - Alice Frankovitch REMEMBER THIS on NOVEMBER 6, 2012 Dear Sean, Today I was incensed at the conclusion of a traditional Serbian-Orthodox funeral for my beloved 85-year-old uncle, Daniel Martich, who proudly served in the US Army during the Korean conflict. During the committal service at a Pittsburgh cemetery the local military detachment performed their ritual, then folded and presented the American Flag to my aunt. As I'm sure you have witnessed during military funerals, a soldier bends to one knee and recites a scripted message to a surviving relative that begins 'On behalf of thePresident of the United Statesand a grateful nation, I wish to present you with this flag in appreciation for your husband's service ...' However, today the dialogue was 'On behalf of the Secretary of Defense and a grateful nation...' After the service, I approached the soldier who presented the flag to my aunt to inquire about the change in language. His response was: The White House notified all military funeral service detachments to immediately remove 'the President' and insert 'the Secretary of Defense'. I couldn't believe what I heard! The soldier just smiled and said, You can draw your own conclusion, Sir, but that was the order. He, too, was ashamed of what he was required to say. Obama has taken off the gloves. My only response to this endless cesspool of anti-American rhetoric dripping from his mouth is to borrow a phrase with one minor change uttered by another temporary Washington resident living in government housing ( his wife! ): Today for the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of the current U.S. President! I did not serve in the military but my love of country parallels that of people like my late uncle who bled red, white and blue. As a second generation Serbian-American who's heritage produced many patriotic military men and women who fought for freedom both in the United States as well as in the former Yugoslavia (most recently in Kosovo against the slaughter of Serbs by Muslim extremists), I implore you to make the American people aware of this little-known or, at least, publicly acknowledged fact. May God Bless you and your family during these difficult times. Your voice of reason is a welcome change from the insanity plastered across the country by the liberal media. Keep up the great work and thank you for your service to our country. Sincerely, John G. Martich Weirton, WV PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO FRIENDS AND REMEMBER 2012 IS TIME FOR A NEW PRESIDENT AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fw: What's next? President Changes Military Funerals
The thing about right-wing idiots is that they don't CARE if the propaganda they're spreading is true or not. http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/funeral.asp --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@... wrote: From: tomeck@... To: aloguidice@..., Bob.Gang@..., daryl7374@..., boots42@..., rjjd@..., RFuller953@..., schmitter@..., rsandrews@..., sarter@..., WLeed3@..., billsue3@..., frank@..., dearest_dahlin@..., goebelpk@..., mlt7135@..., boothefam@..., danakr@..., debster_58@..., j.dodds63@..., pubba65@..., bobg@..., goebel@..., jankvo@..., liskow4@..., longlegs_612@..., eagan1705@... Sent: 8/1/2012 11:00:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Fw: Whatapos;s next? President Changes Military Funerals From: _lvsmith@..._ (mailto:lvsmith@...) Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:10 PM To: _Betty Lou Blixt_ (mailto:feemalou@...) Subject: Fw: What's next? President Changes Military Funerals Subject: What's next? President Changes Military Funerals WBR this is about our loved ones that are willing to give their lives for country. he does not deserve any respect from our troops that are keeping him safe every day and this is what he dishes out.talk, about disrespect,he has none President changes Military funerals. Check with Snoopes... it is TRUE _http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/funeral.asp_ (http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/funeral.asp) There has been a change in U.S. military burial protocol! This is a letter that my good friend's husband wrote today after his uncle's funeral yesterday. If Obama does not want his name associated with our military, he does not deserve to be The President of the United States . - Alice Frankovitch REMEMBER THIS on NOVEMBER 6, 2012 Dear Sean, Today I was incensed at the conclusion of a traditional Serbian-Orthodox funeral for my beloved 85-year-old uncle, Daniel Martich, who proudly served in the US Army during the Korean conflict. During the committal service at a Pittsburgh cemetery the local military detachment performed their ritual, then folded and presented the American Flag to my aunt. As I'm sure you have witnessed during military funerals, a soldier bends to one knee and recites a scripted message to a surviving relative that begins 'On behalf of thePresident of the United Statesand a grateful nation, I wish to present you with this flag in appreciation for your husband's service ...' However, today the dialogue was 'On behalf of the Secretary of Defense and a grateful nation...' After the service, I approached the soldier who presented the flag to my aunt to inquire about the change in language. His response was: The White House notified all military funeral service detachments to immediately remove 'the President' and insert 'the Secretary of Defense'. I couldn't believe what I heard! The soldier just smiled and said, You can draw your own conclusion, Sir, but that was the order. He, too, was ashamed of what he was required to say. Obama has taken off the gloves. My only response to this endless cesspool of anti-American rhetoric dripping from his mouth is to borrow a phrase with one minor change uttered by another temporary Washington resident living in government housing ( his wife! ): Today for the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of the current U.S. President! I did not serve in the military but my love of country parallels that of people like my late uncle who bled red, white and blue. As a second generation Serbian-American who's heritage produced many patriotic military men and women who fought for freedom both in the United States as well as in the former Yugoslavia (most recently in Kosovo against the slaughter of Serbs by Muslim extremists), I implore you to make the American people aware of this little-known or, at least, publicly acknowledged fact. May God Bless you and your family during these difficult times. Your voice of reason is a welcome change from the insanity plastered across the country by the liberal media. Keep up the great work and thank you for your service to our country. Sincerely, John G. Martich Weirton, WV PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO FRIENDS AND REMEMBER 2012 IS TIME FOR A NEW PRESIDENT AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:35 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: While it makes sense that dome admins want and need to have everyone compliant if they are to actually be doing 'the same program at the same time'. The not-so-obvious downside of this is people who practice, say Buddhism or Sufism or whatever will have other spiritual teachers and other spiritual practices they do. If such a person is banned from the domes, they'd in effect be banning them from the practice of their own religion of choice. So much for TM not interfering with religion, huh? Interesting. I'm thinking not so much about people being kept from the domes because of their religious practices, but whether the dome program *itself* has ever been an issue for religious people. Well for Jews and Christians there's always been the biblical injunction Thou shalt have no other gods before me. What happens when a TMer arrives at the heavenly gate and Ole St. Pete senses the mantra of another god or goddess neuroplastically locked into their mode of functioning? Purgatory or Hell? Dunno. This little problem was always danced around by Mahesh Co. by claiming the mantras were meaningless sounds. While they are not assigned a specific meaning in the practice of TM, they do, alas, have very specific meanings and gods or goddesses (other than YHVH-1) to which they belong. Say someone is a devout Muslim. They are supposed to pray at certain specified times of the day, without fail. What if the Muslim in question was participating in the dome program and the time for his Maghrib (sunset) prayer rolls around. Is he supposed to move to the side of the dome, spread out his prayer rug, and do his prayers there, before returning to the TM-siddhi program, or is he supposed to skip his Muslim prayers? H. Now that would be interesting to see.
[FairfieldLife] Re: San Bernardino broke-files for bankruptcy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: This is the third California city that has filed bankruptcy. There is obviously something wrong with the economy. Too many democrats in California! They get their votes through pandering, basically they're sociopaths, not backbone, no character...no wonder! ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: City attorney said officials had falsified budget reports to the mayor and council for 13 of the last 16 years. Biggest expense?, pay and benefits for police and firefighters. UNION GREED! http://news.yahoo.com/san-bernardino-california-files-bankruptcy-over-1-billion-021606235--finance.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDBrdl2sZWs --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:14 AM, turquoiseb wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. And that's a given. One expects it. But what one doesn't expect is a cult leader, who leaves Neo-Vedism and joins...the Catholic church...only to later re-target his old audience...as they're probably the only ones interested in listeningvia email. Let's keep in mind, if this person were to set foot in Jefferson County, he'd be thrown into jail, no? So if you can't go to Fairfield you use email to get to your audience. I mean that has to be a first in and of itself: Fairfield guru using email lists to gain that lost adulation! Robin, by the grace of god, will you please manifest...atonement? TIA. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
Unless, of course, said authorities are attempting to *preserve* the beloved thing by enforcing rules that the person tacitly acknowledged were good when they were a full-fledged participant, simply by virtue of being a full-fledged participant. Now, you can argue that enforcing an unwritten rule about only going to Movement-sanctioned astrologers and gem-therapists is going a bit far, but since just about everyone reading this apparently agrees that a substantial reason why these sanctioned people/organizations exist in the first place is to serve as a fundraiser for the TMO and associated projects (in the case of MAPI, it is written into it's charter, IIRC!), it shouldn't surprise anyone that such rules, formal or informal, exist and that Current Believers⢠try to enforce them. So... even quasi-believers, at least when living in Fairfield, IA, national/international HQ of the TM organization, should not be surprised when people try to convince them to follow the guidelines, and it seems silly to object to people trying to get you to follow guidelines overtly designed to keep the Beloved Thing going, if you are STILL going to participate in some way with others in using the Beloved Thing. You can object all you want, but given the nature of the givens, it seems a silly thing to complain about: wanna continue to use our private facilities? Continue to abide, at least in public, with the guidelines that are set up concerning use of our private facilities. If you think something illegal, immoral or unethical is going on, take it to the proper civil/legal authorities. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Tea wrote: A more apt comparision would be a relationship, a marriage that breaks up. People are literally married to the movement. The movement is in their brains, not just through meditation (that's the good thing), but also through everything they know and believe. My comment: Extending this analogy I'd say that I got divorced from the TMO but we remain good friends and sometimes even hang out together eg when I go to the Dome. Tea, I sense what you're saying. To use different words: that the authorities threaten individuals with the loss of something beloved unless those individuals do what the authorities want them to do. Is that an accurate way to describe it? If this is truly happening, then no need to worry. Any organization that uses such tactics will destroy itself from the inside out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__ebR_8UKAYfeature=related http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/bombay.html http://ninamartyris.blogspot.de/2007/04/leonard-cohen-came-looking-in-mumbaiand.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Re: San Bernardino broke-files for bankruptcy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: City attorney said officials had falsified budget reports to the mayor and council for 13 of the last 16 years. Biggest expense?, pay and benefits for police and firefighters. UNION GREED! http://news.yahoo.com/san-bernardino-california-files-bankruptcy-over-1-billion-021606235--finance.html Provide for the common good is usually the justification for the existence of governments. What specifically, about paying for police and firefighters, do you object to? That they get paid too much? L
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLiq-ZQAXHs --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] For Share Long (Use Headphones Please)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ2gRDesmXY
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=EyH760MV3Ygfeature=endscreen http://youtu.be/AKtwlHV1-O8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzgsdg-Bmvk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
Most interesting, iranitea. Thank you. My favourite lines from this post: India is filled with many exceptionally beautiful women who don't desire me I verify this every single day as I walk around the city of Bombay I look into face after face and never once have I been wrong The Creator is going to have to really be up for that encounter with Leonard--that loving irony, it might be about as good as it gets. Never knew about this. Appreciate it. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__ebR_8UKAYfeature=related http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/bombay.html http://ninamartyris.blogspot.de/2007/04/leonard-cohen-came-looking-in-mumbaiand.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLiq-ZQAXHs http://youtu.be/joShGDJjmwE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: San Bernardino broke-files for bankruptcy
Ah, Lawson, always such a gust of fresh air from across the pond when you post. Keep posting... From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 8:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: San Bernardino broke-files for bankruptcy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: City attorney said officials had falsified budget reports to the mayor and council for 13 of the last 16 years. Biggest expense?, pay and benefits for police and firefighters. UNION GREED! http://news.yahoo.com/san-bernardino-california-files-bankruptcy-over-1-billion-021606235--finance.html Provide for the common good is usually the justification for the existence of governments. What specifically, about paying for police and firefighters, do you object to? That they get paid too much? L
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices
Lawson, you make it sound so black and white and I agree that on at least one level it is. However, it's also true that when one admires an organization, one expects it to refrain from using physical force or emotional blackmail with its participants. Especially if that organization teaches a technique that develops the full potential of the individual and society. Wouldn't such development, of both individuals and the organization, allow the problem to be resolved naturally and in a life affirming manner? OTOH I completely support the TMO preventing practitioners of other techniques to do program in the Dome. It sounds like it's been a difficult task to ascertain who is doing such. Herein lies the gray area, sticky wickets, etc. What I sense about TMO these days, is that it is more relaxed about all this. And I could be wrong. I don't know the details of Buck's situation. Or even if he's a gov. As covered here before, govs are expected to be more loyal in their behavior. Last but not least, who are the proper authorities if something immoral is happening?! Share, enjoying your clarity From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices Unless, of course, said authorities are attempting to *preserve* the beloved thing by enforcing rules that the person tacitly acknowledged were good when they were a full-fledged participant, simply by virtue of being a full-fledged participant. Now, you can argue that enforcing an unwritten rule about only going to Movement-sanctioned astrologers and gem-therapists is going a bit far, but since just about everyone reading this apparently agrees that a substantial reason why these sanctioned people/organizations exist in the first place is to serve as a fundraiser for the TMO and associated projects (in the case of MAPI, it is written into it's charter, IIRC!), it shouldn't surprise anyone that such rules, formal or informal, exist and that Current Believers™ try to enforce them. So... even quasi-believers, at least when living in Fairfield, IA, national/international HQ of the TM organization, should not be surprised when people try to convince them to follow the guidelines, and it seems silly to object to people trying to get you to follow guidelines overtly designed to keep the Beloved Thing going, if you are STILL going to participate in some way with others in using the Beloved Thing. You can object all you want, but given the nature of the givens, it seems a silly thing to complain about: wanna continue to use our private facilities? Continue to abide, at least in public, with the guidelines that are set up concerning use of our private facilities. If you think something illegal, immoral or unethical is going on, take it to the proper civil/legal authorities. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Tea wrote: A more apt comparision would be a relationship, a marriage that breaks up. People are literally married to the movement. The movement is in their brains, not just through meditation (that's the good thing), but also through everything they know and believe. My comment: Extending this analogy I'd say that I got divorced from the TMO but we remain good friends and sometimes even hang out together eg when I go to the Dome. Tea, I sense what you're saying. To use different words: that the authorities threaten individuals with the loss of something beloved unless those individuals do what the authorities want them to do. Is that an accurate way to describe it? If this is truly happening, then no need to worry. Any organization that uses such tactics will destroy itself from the inside out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
Wow! Loving that gravelly voice... From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 8:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__ebR_8UKAYfeature=related http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/bombay.html http://ninamartyris.blogspot.de/2007/04/leonard-cohen-came-looking-in-mumbaiand.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Romney horse competes in Olympics.
Ann Romney's Olympic horseRafalca, the dressage horse part-owned by Mitt Romney's wife Ann, made a solid Olympic debut on Aug. 2 as rider Jan Ebeling ignored the media hype and political jibing surrounding them. * Show thumbnails http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ann-romney-s-olympic-horse-slideshow/# 1 of 7 photosPrev http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ann-romney-s-olympic-horse-slideshow/rider\ -jan-ebeling-leads-rafalca-part-owned-mitt-photo-204702670--spt.html Next http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ann-romney-s-olympic-horse-slideshow/romne\ y-horse-photo-1343915865.html previous http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ann-romney-s-olympic-horse-slideshow/rider\ -jan-ebeling-leads-rafalca-part-owned-mitt-photo-204702670--spt.html [Romney horse]
[FairfieldLife] Re: San Bernardino broke-files for bankruptcy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ah, Lawson, always such a gust of fresh air from across the pond when you post. Keep posting... From: sparaig LEnglish5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 8:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: San Bernardino broke-files for bankruptcy  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: City attorney said officials had falsified budget reports to the mayor and council for 13 of the last 16 years. Biggest expense?, pay and benefits for police and firefighters. UNION GREED! http://news.yahoo.com/san-bernardino-california-files-bankruptcy-over-1-billion-021606235--finance.html Provide for the common good is usually the justification for the existence of governments. What specifically, about paying for police and firefighters, do you object to? That they get paid too much? L Yeah, I believe so, their pay and benefits are outrageous compared to the working stiff!
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Share Long (Use Headphones Please)
Definitely the wrong video, Share. Will try to track down the one I meant to send.. This is not it. I've lost my cosmic connections, so this kind of thing keeps happening to me. :-) The video I am thinking of is a hundred times more powerful than this one is, although the photos at the very beginning of this one are very good. I'll dig it up. (The right video.) This does not need answering. Wait till I get the real thing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ2gRDesmXY
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Share Long (Use Headphones Please)
Richard Beymer filmed Maharishi's funeral and I saw that when aired here. Why should I use headphones? Necessary? Don't like! WATCH YOUR POST COUNT, OK? From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 10:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Share Long (Use Headphones Please) Definitely the wrong video, Share. Will try to track down the one I meant to send.. This is not it. I've lost my cosmic connections, so this kind of thing keeps happening to me. :-) The video I am thinking of is a hundred times more powerful than this one is, although the photos at the very beginning of this one are very good. I'll dig it up. (The right video.) This does not need answering. Wait till I get the real thing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ2gRDesmXY
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
Oh God, hilarious...but is Burt pulling on his chest hair at one point?! From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 6:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mitF1kpMbvg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Take This Waltz and the exotic rickshaw across the street
it's starts with being happily married... ( to one of the many the TM Organizations?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUQTNY5yaVk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUQTNY5yaVk Life has a gap in it. It just does. Just don't or do go crazy trying to fill it. From: http://movies.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/movies/take-this-waltz-directed-by-\ sarah-polley.html http://movies.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/movies/take-this-waltz-directed-by\ -sarah-polley.html ..Speaking of the glories of Canada, Take This Waltz is also a tribute to the genius of Leonard Cohen. The title is taken from one of his songs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQm1OmLMNno , which accompanies an astonishing (and very sexy) montage late in the film. We also hear, at another crucial point in the drama, the Nova Scotia-born singer Feist's http://www.youtube.com/artist/feist ebullient, uncompromising cover of Closing Time... http://movies.nytimes.com/gst/movies/titlelist.html?v_idlist=233575;438\ 514;447205inline=nyt_ttl According to Sarah Polley , western culture for some reason likes to offer the promise of perpetual romantic happiness- Polley has now been living ecstatic-addictive without experiencing a romantic collapse with Take This Waltz longer than with her current partner...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day Uh huh. Because if Barry let on that he knew who it was, he couldn't go on to insinuate that he was gay: -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) In fact, of course, this group is a subset of the hate faction. Its members are characterized by extreme jealousy of the individual getting all the attention.
[FairfieldLife] Obama massaging back of Union Leader-pic.
Union leader strives to ease Obama's * http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/01/us-usa-election-forecasting-i\ dUSBRE87007120120801 Wed, Aug 1 2012 [President Barack Obama (L) stands behind AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka before he speaks at the AFL-CIO Executive Council meeting at the Washington Convention Center in Washington, August 4, 2010. REUTERS/Larry Downing]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama massaging back of Union Leader-pic.
Obama's White Guy Problem! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: Union leader strives to ease Obama's * http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/01/us-usa-election-forecasting-i\ \ dUSBRE87007120120801 Wed, Aug 1 2012 [President Barack Obama (L) stands behind AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka before he speaks at the AFL-CIO Executive Council meeting at the Washington Convention Center in Washington, August 4, 2010. REUTERS/Larry Downing]
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Oh God, hilarious...but is Burt pulling on his chest hair at one point?! He sure is. That is such a beautifully acted, written (by Jerry Belson), and directed (by Reynolds himself) scene. The film (The End) drags a bit in spots, but it has some brilliant scenes (including one with Robby Benson as a neophyte priest hearing Reynolds's confession). From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 6:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mitF1kpMbvg
[FairfieldLife] Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affa ir-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
On 08/02/2012 01:14 AM, turquoiseb wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Robert Goulet. It was probably on his TV show and meant to be a comedy bit.
Re: [FairfieldLife] San Bernardino broke-files for bankruptcy
On 08/01/2012 10:50 PM, wgm4u wrote: City attorney said officials had falsified budget reports to the mayor and council for 13 of the last 16 years. Biggest expense?, pay and benefits for police and firefighters. UNION GREED! http://news.yahoo.com/san-bernardino-california-files-bankruptcy-over-1-billion-021606235--finance.html These bankruptcies don't have anything to do with union greed. It has to do with electing inept council people and city managers who partied on when the economy boomed. IOW, they were too stoopid to realize that what goes up must come down and that booms don't last. The cities that recognized the economy was going through a boom cycle and were careful are doing just fine. But when was the last time you paid attention to who was running for city council in your town?
[FairfieldLife] The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-:
Marnia Robinson writes: Take, for example, the ancient Tibetan Buddhist myth, The Great Stupa. It confirms that passion is indeed the reason for mankind's fallen state, and says there are three paths to liberation: ~the overcoming of passion through renunciation ~the neutralization of passion by pouring all one's energy into selfless service ~the conquering of passion through controlled indulgence. That is, using sex itself in such a way as to transcend passion's treacherous downward suction. It says that the third path is the fastest and most powerful path, although also the easiest one to fall from...until one masters it. The myth, which is very old, predicted there would come a time when the unstable energies produced by increased indulgence in passion would create chaos at both seen and unseen levels across the globe. The first two paths, celibacy and compassionate service to others, would no longer open the door to enlightenment, though they would remain useful spiritual disciplines. Why? Because general unrest would render impossible the necessary degree of inner stillness. Instead, only the third path, balance with a partner, would serve. Apparently a loving relationship, devoted entirely to the goal of transcendence, can create enduring inner peace and stability. In this way, we can reconnect the broken circuit of gender and permanently rise about our built-in sense of lack. By contrast, celibacy still allows gender polarity to create severe longings in many of us, if only for simple loving touch. And I suspect this trait is less a product of moral weakness than a result of the easily inflamed body chemistry that we have bred into ourselves for millennia. These bothersome longings may also mask intense yearnings for reunion with our Source. The silver lining? Many of us are apparently now primed for shared enlightenment should we care to use our urges for a higher end. from Marnia Robinson's Peace Between the Sheets, pg 137-8 Balinese medicine man Ketut from Eat Pray Love: To lose balance sometimes for love is part of living a balanced life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8csr68LjUMfeature=relmfu
Re: [FairfieldLife] Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
Rick - thank you for posting this. This interview is truly excellent and has so much to say on so many levels. Beautiful. From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 9:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-:
snip Balinese medicine man Ketut from Eat Pray Love: To lose balance sometimes for love is part of living a balanced life. Do watch the interview on Rick's post. She believes she is helping to clean up Maharishi's karma re: his not walking his talk on celibacy and says some other incredibly sweet and simply and insightful things that apply to us all, as human's. Who/what will clean up his karma related to finances? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-: Marnia Robinson writes: Take, for example, the ancient Tibetan Buddhist myth, The Great Stupa. It confirms that passion is indeed the reason for mankind's fallen state, and says there are three paths to liberation: ~the overcoming of passion through renunciation ~the neutralization of passion by pouring all one's energy into selfless service ~the conquering of passion through controlled indulgence. That is, using sex itself in such a way as to transcend passion's treacherous downward suction. It says that the third path is the fastest and most powerful path, although also the easiest one to fall from...until one masters it. The myth, which is very old, predicted there would come a time when the unstable energies produced by increased indulgence in passion would create chaos at both seen and unseen levels across the globe. The first two paths, celibacy and compassionate service to others, would no longer open the door to enlightenment, though they would remain useful spiritual disciplines. Why? Because general unrest would render impossible the necessary degree of inner stillness. Instead, only the third path, balance with a partner, would serve. Apparently a loving relationship, devoted entirely to the goal of transcendence, can create enduring inner peace and stability. In this way, we can reconnect the broken circuit of gender and permanently rise about our built-in sense of lack. By contrast, celibacy still allows gender polarity to create severe longings in many of us, if only for simple loving touch. And I suspect this trait is less a product of moral weakness than a result of the easily inflamed body chemistry that we have bred into ourselves for millennia. These bothersome longings may also mask intense yearnings for reunion with our Source. The silver lining? Many of us are apparently now primed for shared enlightenment should we care to use our urges for a higher end. from Marnia Robinson's Peace Between the Sheets, pg 137-8 Balinese medicine man Ketut from Eat Pray Love: To lose balance sometimes for love is part of living a balanced life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8csr68LjUMfeature=relmfu
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-:
Forgive the grammatical mistakes here. I was once an editor, but no more :) From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-: snip Balinese medicine man Ketut from Eat Pray Love: To lose balance sometimes for love is part of living a balanced life. Do watch the interview on Rick's post. She believes she is helping to clean up Maharishi's karma re: his not walking his talk on celibacy and says some other incredibly sweet and simply and insightful things that apply to us all, as human's. Who/what will clean up his karma related to finances? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-: Marnia Robinson writes: Take, for example, the ancient Tibetan Buddhist myth, The Great Stupa. It confirms that passion is indeed the reason for mankind's fallen state, and says there are three paths to liberation: ~the overcoming of passion through renunciation ~the neutralization of passion by pouring all one's energy into selfless service ~the conquering of passion through controlled indulgence. That is, using sex itself in such a way as to transcend passion's treacherous downward suction. It says that the third path is the fastest and most powerful path, although also the easiest one to fall from...until one masters it. The myth, which is very old, predicted there would come a time when the unstable energies produced by increased indulgence in passion would create chaos at both seen and unseen levels across the globe. The first two paths, celibacy and compassionate service to others, would no longer open the door to enlightenment, though they would remain useful spiritual disciplines. Why? Because general unrest would render impossible the necessary degree of inner stillness. Instead, only the third path, balance with a partner, would serve. Apparently a loving relationship, devoted entirely to the goal of transcendence, can create enduring inner peace and stability. In this way, we can reconnect the broken circuit of gender and permanently rise about our built-in sense of lack. By contrast, celibacy still allows gender polarity to create severe longings in many of us, if only for simple loving touch. And I suspect this trait is less a product of moral weakness than a result of the easily inflamed body chemistry that we have bred into ourselves for millennia. These bothersome longings may also mask intense yearnings for reunion with our Source. The silver lining? Many of us are apparently now primed for shared enlightenment should we care to use our urges for a higher end. from Marnia Robinson's Peace Between the Sheets, pg 137-8 Balinese medicine man Ketut from Eat Pray Love: To lose balance sometimes for love is part of living a balanced life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8csr68LjUMfeature=relmfu
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
bless me Dave-who wants to fly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXA30hD2NQfeature=player_detailpage#t=9\ 61s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXA30hD2NQfeature=player_detailpage#t=\ 961s now do you owe me 50% ... or was it really 10% only? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzqbqDW9z6Efeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzqbqDW9z6Efeature=related Hey Jude I knew you do not luv me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXA30hD2NQfeature=player_detailpage#t=5\ 095s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXA30hD2NQfeature=player_detailpage#t=\ 5095s --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Oh God, hilarious...but is Burt pulling on his chest hair at one point?! He sure is. That is such a beautifully acted, written (by Jerry Belson), and directed (by Reynolds himself) scene. The film (The End) drags a bit in spots, but it has some brilliant scenes (including one with Robby Benson as a neophyte priest hearing Reynolds's confession). From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 6:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mitF1kpMbvg
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-:
Share Long: Take, for example, the ancient Tibetan Buddhist myth, The Great Stupa... The Great Stupa at Sanchi, India, is an example of South Asian edifice architecture. The ancient stupa at Sanchi shows a parasol emerging from the center of the space enclosed by the harmika fence. This, and the domed architecture of the mound, is repeated with variation in countless thousands of stupas and mounds throughout the ages in all countries from the Swat valley all the way to Java and to Sri Lanka. But in fact, the Patanjali Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge at Fairfield, Iowa, USA, home of the TM-Sidhi program, is a tope! That is to say, the Golden Dome at Fairfield, on the campus of the Maharishi International University (MUM), is sort of like a oriental dagoba that I once visited in Nepal, the like of which is suggested by a morthological similarity to the great Svyanbhunatha Stupa at Patan in the Katmandu Valley. And why? In other words, the Golden Dome at Fairfield, (not to be confused with the Maharishi Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge at Radience, Texas), is a sort of empty mound, surmounted by a kalasa, suppored by the amalaka in which the akasha, symbolizing dimensionless space, and is supported by the linga, surmounting the eight-angled cintamani, or an 8-sided prototypic harmika with a rail surrounding the hypaethral pavilion constituting a veritible 'chaitya garbha pradakshina', with a nice fence around it! The parasol, atop the Buddhist stupa and the MUM Golden Dome, as at Sanci, at Sarnath and at Taxila, (circa 200 B.C.) the earliest evidence of edifice architecture in India, is the canopy of heaven, its pole being the cosmic axis mundi and the dome's surface is the earth. As a 'cosmic egg' image it is preeminent among the aniconic images of the Buddha. In Buddhist mythology the bodhi tree, symbol of MUM, is the original parasol duplicated in the dome and the kalasa on top - the point where the pole of the parasol pierces the canopy corresponds precisely to the point defined by the harmika, where the pole emerges from the summit of the stupa garbha. This is pure Buddhist vastu, except that inside the Golden Dome, at both Fairfied and at Radience, is found HOLLOWNESS, so that the siddhas can have room to enjoy, unobstructed, just like the Buddha when he was 'levitating' over Sravasti. This, you have got to admit, is ingenious - a hollow stupa for flying!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: snip-who wants to fly Oh, start it earlier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXA30hD2NQfeature=player_detailpage#t=13m00s Otherwise it kills the funniest line in the film (by me, anyway). v=NQXA30hD2NQfeature=player_detailpage#t=9\ 61s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXA30hD2NQfeature=player_detailpage#t=\ 961s now do you owe me 50% ... or was it really 10% only? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzqbqDW9z6Efeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzqbqDW9z6Efeature=related Hey Jude I knew you do not luv me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXA30hD2NQfeature=player_detailpage#t=5\ 095s I can't do anything right! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXA30hD2NQfeature=player_detailpage#t=\ 5095s --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Oh God, hilarious...but is Burt pulling on his chest hair at one point?! He sure is. That is such a beautifully acted, written (by Jerry Belson), and directed (by Reynolds himself) scene. The film (The End) drags a bit in spots, but it has some brilliant scenes (including one with Robby Benson as a neophyte priest hearing Reynolds's confession). From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 6:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mitF1kpMbvg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like - To Meru
Dear Merudanda: I am your groupie. I sincerely apologize that it took this long to get to the end of your post. But, I heard you. A new skill I'm practicing - listening. Thank you and do you do me a small favor and please elaborate at will. Voila! From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel Oh, I was kidding...sighit's all coming together perfectly From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 5:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel sigh Thank you-sigh. No doubt you, Emily Reyn, understood, as expected, quite well by public # 315708 +315704 indicating you are more and more convinced that looking for a job is, in fact, *not* the next indicated step for you(J'attendais et je sombre ) in response to these seemingly everlasting doomy-gloomy out of context postings and on Wed Aug 1, with your you'll look for a job in September post put it-as well expected- the Apocalypse into shame and ashes(Jetez au vent mes tristes cendres, voilà ) . So why not soften the harsh guilt ridden so un-yogic-anti-TM destructive appeal Remember you are hast'ning onTo death's dark gloomy shade;Your joys on earth will soon be gone,Your flesh in dust be laid.. start TM go to the Dome and playing with this rhymes? desert=dessert and the tender heart of Le desertde mon coeur(ev'ry secret of my heart)revealing the just-sweet-secret in public And I receive my just dessert For all that I have donesigh which has been so beautiful done by seattlefloyd on Aug 11, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nowsoZomu0c Hinting to the history of the love -erotomania -cal element in apocalyptic-ism and apocalyptic love: Do not ask me to elaborate American-wise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2j578jTBCY sigh --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Here's the link to that scene on youtube called Jane Fonda on acting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqyk4VgYntE sigh From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What 50+ is like if you're a supermodel Re-watching Jane's circle of light3 min speech her so humbly defining the suffocating anxiety that goes into executing a flawlessly flowof a scene of great mesmerizing intoxicating, exhilarating and terrifying potential --I wonder if turquoiseb are-was just searching for these achievement ofone take orchestral perfection in his watching and reviewing movies since he started in the mask of Uncle Tantra ..or? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqyk4VgYntE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqyk4VgYntE Unfortunately, too much of the conversation is a little clichéd and wine-fueled and so many stars are presented in rapid succession, Arquette's one-on-one conversations works best. For five -six spellbinding minutes, Fonda takes us into her soul ,offers up her personal kind of peak moment experience of the ultimate ecstasy of movie acting .If you love movies, agree, this segment alone makes Searching for Debra Winger worth watching. You could/should just jump straight to Scene 22. Stunning photos at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/about-face-timothy-greenfield-s\ anders_n_1711344.html#slide=1285846 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/about-face-timothy-greenfield-\ sanders_n_1711344.html#slide=1285846 thanks http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/about-face-the-supermodels-then-and-now\ /index.html http://tinyurl.com/7csz6j7 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip . The whole film was IMO worth seeing just for Jane Fonda's segment. At the time, this was the first time she'd been in front of film cameras for over a decade, having retired from the biz. But to see her deal with the question of what was *best* about her whole experience in the movies is itself worth the price of admission. Searching For Debra Winger. Good film. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-GALaD2kuE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-GALaD2kuE
[FairfieldLife] LeonardCohen - Old Ideas World Tour - 2012
Don't see USA on the list of places Leonard is going. But, it's not too late to buy tickets perhaps to one of the remaining locations. http://1heckofaguy.com/2012/03/26/its-official-2012-leonard-cohen-old-ideas-world-tour-schedule/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: snip But what one doesn't expect is a cult leader, who leaves Neo-Vedism and joins...the Catholic church...only to later re-target his old audience...as they're probably the only ones interested in listeningvia email. Let's keep in mind, if this person were to set foot in Jefferson County, he'd be thrown into jail, no? So if you can't go to Fairfield you use email to get to your audience. I mean that has to be a first in and of itself: Fairfield guru using email lists to gain that lost adulation! This is bullshit, deliberate, vicious, thoroughly malicious bullshit. It's not meant as a joke, it's meant to do harm. Vaj is the kind of person who gets his kicks out of harming people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
I was thinking about those that create false selves that are so real to them, that they forget they created them, in order to protect themselves. Based in fear, looking for safety. One creates a false self in order to not have to create a healthy boundary. We are not taught to understand what a healthy boundary is and that we have the right to set them. If one does not challenge one's false self, one will never move forward, no matter what philosophy/technique one adheres to. From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: snip But what one doesn't expect is a cult leader, who leaves Neo-Vedism and joins...the Catholic church...only to later re-target his old audience...as they're probably the only ones interested in listeningvia email. Let's keep in mind, if this person were to set foot in Jefferson County, he'd be thrown into jail, no? So if you can't go to Fairfield you use email to get to your audience. I mean that has to be a first in and of itself: Fairfield guru using email lists to gain that lost adulation! This is bullshit, deliberate, vicious, thoroughly malicious bullshit. It's not meant as a joke, it's meant to do harm. Vaj is the kind of person who gets his kicks out of harming people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Romney horse competes in Olympics.
Absolutely beautiful animal! But here in Texas, the Quarter horse is king. Nothing more beautiful than to see one trained as a cutting horse doing it's work. From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 7:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Romney horse competes in Olympics. Ann Romney's Olympic horse Rafalca, the dressage horse part-owned by Mitt Romney's wife Ann, made a solid Olympic debut on Aug. 2 as rider Jan Ebeling ignored the media hype and political jibing surrounding them. * Show thumbnails 1 of 7 photos PrevNextprevious
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
First 50 seconds - loving, authentic, and ironic all at the same time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHI9BTpGkp8 From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 7:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story Most interesting, iranitea. Thank you. My favourite lines from this post: India is filled with many exceptionally beautiful women who don't desire me I verify this every single day as I walk around the city of Bombay I look into face after face and never once have I been wrong The Creator is going to have to really be up for that encounter with Leonard--that loving irony, it might be about as good as it gets. Never knew about this. Appreciate it. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__ebR_8UKAYfeature=related http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/bombay.html http://ninamartyris.blogspot.de/2007/04/leonard-cohen-came-looking-in-mumbaiand.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the groupie metaphor I've been proposing lately to describe common behavior in spiritual groups. I just loved the almost-drooling adoration captured by the three Shangri-Las, and then the twist as the object of their adoration rides in on a bike. That was funny! I don't recognize the guy -- probably some TV personality or host who was popular in that day -- but he captured perfectly the kinda guy who believes that if he dresses like a macho biker, he'll be perceived as a macho biker, even though he's prob- ably gayer than Liberace. And, of course, that's how groupie adoration works -- they're in love with the projected image, not the reality. Here's a followup soundtrack song on the same theme of spiritual groupies. I like this one because it captures the *polarity* that develops when someone new develops a following among members of an established spiritual groups. Here the groupie thang is split along male/female dividing lines, but in real spiritual groups it's usually split more along dogma/purity of the teaching lines. One faction drools over the flashy new wannabee guru, and another faction hates him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhH1MkzU7dg And at the same time, there is a wiser majority of spiritual seekers standing on the periphery, shaking their heads in dismay at both factions, finding it difficult to comprehend how *any* of them could get so worked up about such a nobody, and muttering under their breaths about Incredibly Low Standards on both sides. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the same for you. Watching RWC work a new bunch of TMers, one cannot help be reminded of previous incidents with innocent MIU students way back when. It's too uncannily familiar. It's interesting that someone who denounced the TM Org, it's founder and allegedly found Jesus - is grooming TMers again like an out-of-jail pedophile at a playground. I guess when it really comes down to it, TMers are the only crowd that fall for the routine (I'm excluding possible Opus Dei fans here!).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! My, oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of decorum or decency. I have never had the impression that Robin is targeting anyone. He is working out some ideas and exchanging them with people who are willing to debate or simply chat with him. That's really the purpose of this forum, is it not? I like Robin. I think he is a good guy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip But what one doesn't expect is a cult leader, who leaves Neo-Vedism and joins...the Catholic church...only to later re-target his old audience...as they're probably the only ones interested in listeningvia email. Let's keep in mind, if this person were to set foot in Jefferson County, he'd be thrown into jail, no? So if you can't go to Fairfield you use email to get to your audience. I mean that has to be a first in and of itself: Fairfield guru using email lists to gain that lost adulation! This is bullshit, deliberate, vicious, thoroughly malicious bullshit. It's not meant as a joke, it's meant to do harm. Vaj is the kind of person who gets his kicks out of harming people.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! As I understand it, he was barred legally from entering Jefferson County--I assume that's still in effect, not sure--but it had nothing to do with criminality; it was part of the outcome of MIU's lawsuit against him back in 1983. My, oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of decorum or decency. And Vaj isn't willing to say why he hates Robin so much. I have never had the impression that Robin is targeting anyone. Of course he isn't. Targeting them for what? Why? Vaj knows that's nonsense, but he's hoping others don't. He wants to make folks leery of talking to Robin. He is working out some ideas and exchanging them with people who are willing to debate or simply chat with him. That's really the purpose of this forum, is it not? Exactly. I like Robin. I think he is a good guy. Why he makes a few people here freak out is a mystery to me. But interestingly, it's the same few people who are in the habit of making this forum unpleasant for the TMers here. You would think, given that Robin has so radically rejected TM, that they'd want to make common cause with him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip But what one doesn't expect is a cult leader, who leaves Neo-Vedism and joins...the Catholic church...only to later re-target his old audience...as they're probably the only ones interested in listeningvia email. Let's keep in mind, if this person were to set foot in Jefferson County, he'd be thrown into jail, no? So if you can't go to Fairfield you use email to get to your audience. I mean that has to be a first in and of itself: Fairfield guru using email lists to gain that lost adulation! This is bullshit, deliberate, vicious, thoroughly malicious bullshit. It's not meant as a joke, it's meant to do harm. Vaj is the kind of person who gets his kicks out of harming people.
[FairfieldLife] Beautiful Crop Circle in Bavaria
Andechs Abbey, Bayern. Bavaria. Reported 29th July. Map Ref: HERE https://maps.google.com/maps?q=47.985111,11.209735hl=dell=47.984953,1\ 1.20981spn=0.005292,0.013078sll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=50.823846,107.\ 138672t=hz=17 This Page has been accessed [Hit Counter] Updated Thursday 2nd August 2012 AERIAL SHOTS GROUND SHOTS DIAGRAMS FIELD REPORTS ARTICLES http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/http:/www.cropcircleconnector.c\ om/anasazi/conduct.html FOR VISITING THE CROP CIRCLES. Images Klaus Leidorf Luftbilddokumentation http://www.leidorf.de/ Copyright 2012 http://www.cropcircleconnectorforum.com/ The Rim of the crop circle at Andechs Abbey is similar to a previous formation at Etchilhampton, nr Devizes, Wiltshire. Reported 25th July 2011. Image The Crop Circle Connector Copyright 2011 Image Stuart Dike Copyright 2011 Diagram www.r71cropcircleart.nl http://www.r71cropcircleart.nl/ Copyright 2012
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! My, oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of decorum or decency. And the way that you say this Feste indicates to me that you are quite the opposite. A decent person who appears to operate within the boundaries of decency, intelligence yet with that flavour of feistiness I referred to the other day. I have never had the impression that Robin is targeting anyone. He is working out some ideas and exchanging them with people who are willing to debate or simply chat with him. That's really the purpose of this forum, is it not? Well, not that it is always evident but, yes, I think that was probably the intention when this forum was conceived of. Not really the place for personal vendettas to play out and purposefully-posted incendiary and mean-spirited (to put it mildly)half truths and all- out lies. But seemingly reasonable people, like yourself, just end up automatically mirroring back the outrageous quality of this kind of libel. Just some vicious innuendos here from Vaj, thrown into jail, pedophile, re-target. I like Robin. I think he is a good guy. You know, I think I just might agree with you on that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip But what one doesn't expect is a cult leader, who leaves Neo-Vedism and joins...the Catholic church...only to later re-target his old audience...as they're probably the only ones interested in listeningvia email. Let's keep in mind, if this person were to set foot in Jefferson County, he'd be thrown into jail, no? So if you can't go to Fairfield you use email to get to your audience. I mean that has to be a first in and of itself: Fairfield guru using email lists to gain that lost adulation! This is bullshit, deliberate, vicious, thoroughly malicious bullshit. It's not meant as a joke, it's meant to do harm. Vaj is the kind of person who gets his kicks out of harming people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
snip You would think, given that Robin has so radically rejectedTM, that they'd want to make common cause with him. Robin quotes: I still experience that there is almost as much Maharishi inside of me as there is me. I don't like it; but that is the consequence of the awesome change he wrought in me. I believe I would be one-half the person I am now able to be if it were not for meeting Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and coming under the tremendous metaphysical integrity of his personality and his consciousness. Secondly, I am not a doctrinaire—at least in the sense that I would ever allow what I believed in to spare me the existential tension, dissonance, ordeal of perhaps realizing, in contemplating I could be wrong in those beliefs (wrong here means: they do not correspond with reality), that someone else—even empty bill—is right. From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! As I understand it, he was barred legally from entering Jefferson County--I assume that's still in effect, not sure--but it had nothing to do with criminality; it was part of the outcome of MIU's lawsuit against him back in 1983. My, oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of decorum or decency. And Vaj isn't willing to say why he hates Robin so much. I have never had the impression that Robin is targeting anyone. Of course he isn't. Targeting them for what? Why? Vaj knows that's nonsense, but he's hoping others don't. He wants to make folks leery of talking to Robin. He is working out some ideas and exchanging them with people who are willing to debate or simply chat with him. That's really the purpose of this forum, is it not? Exactly. I like Robin. I think he is a good guy. Why he makes a few people here freak out is a mystery to me. But interestingly, it's the same few people who are in the habit of making this forum unpleasant for the TMers here. You would think, given that Robin has so radically rejected TM, that they'd want to make common cause with him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip But what one doesn't expect is a cult leader, who leaves Neo-Vedism and joins...the Catholic church...only to later re-target his old audience...as they're probably the only ones interested in listeningvia email. Let's keep in mind, if this person were to set foot in Jefferson County, he'd be thrown into jail, no? So if you can't go to Fairfield you use email to get to your audience. I mean that has to be a first in and of itself: Fairfield guru using email lists to gain that lost adulation! This is bullshit, deliberate, vicious, thoroughly malicious bullshit. It's not meant as a joke, it's meant to do harm. Vaj is the kind of person who gets his kicks out of harming people.
[FairfieldLife] To Card - There's a Barn Burnin' Baby - Dave Alvin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvlyGMyf4DM
[FairfieldLife] Back to Buck....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ntc4OQ2JAfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] To Share: Love and Happiness
Posted before but happiness is when you real feel good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsU6_eSG4k4feature=fvwrel
[FairfieldLife] TM Technique
Question: http://www.quora.com/Transcendental-Meditation/What-is-the-exact-technique-for-Transcendental-Meditation Other than find a certified teacher, the following was submitted by David Spector: Response: The question is well-formed, but the answer cannot usefully be given in a few words. That is the fundamental reason why you will not find a satisfying answer anywhere. TM is a subtle technique. Even though it works, it must be learned. There are many simple questions that do not have simple answers: what is a manifold? what are eigenvalues? how do you speak (read, write) Portuguese? how should I raise my child? how can I be happy? Just because a question can be asked using just a few words doesn't mean it has an answer in a few words. Understanding that many questions require study or learning is a first step toward wisdom. That having been said, I've written a Web page that may help by describing transcending in general (not just TM): http://www.nsrusa.org/how-it-wor I hope it helps.
[FairfieldLife] Alternatives to eating at Chick-Fil-A :-)
KFC loves gays: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/e86050c415/kfc-loves-gays-with-john-goo\ dman?playlist=featured_videos http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/e86050c415/kfc-loves-gays-with-john-go\ odman?playlist=featured_videos [https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/531494_369541746\ 449377_615357811_n.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] R.C. Lightnin' - Deep East Texas Blues Man
Am I close to 50 yet? This is tiring. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ4WoUuxTq4
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
Not sure what your point here is, Emily. Rather than have me guess, could you give me a clue? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip You would think, given that Robin has so radically rejectedTM, that they'd want to make common cause with him. Robin quotes:  I still experience that there is almost as much Maharishi inside of me as there is me. I don't like it; but that is the consequence of the awesome change he wrought in me. I believe I would be one-half the person I am now able to be if it were not for meeting Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and coming under the tremendous metaphysical integrity of his personality and his consciousness. Secondly, I am not a doctrinaireâat least in the sense that I would ever allow what I believed in to spare me the existential tension, dissonance, ordeal of perhaps realizing, in contemplating I could be wrong in those beliefs (wrong here means: they do not correspond with reality), that someone elseâeven empty billâis right. From: authfriend jstein@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! As I understand it, he was barred legally from entering Jefferson County--I assume that's still in effect, not sure--but it had nothing to do with criminality; it was part of the outcome of MIU's lawsuit against him back in 1983. My, oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of decorum or decency. And Vaj isn't willing to say why he hates Robin so much. I have never had the impression that Robin is targeting anyone. Of course he isn't. Targeting them for what? Why? Vaj knows that's nonsense, but he's hoping others don't. He wants to make folks leery of talking to Robin. He is working out some ideas and exchanging them with people who are willing to debate or simply chat with him. That's really the purpose of this forum, is it not? Exactly. I like Robin. I think he is a good guy. Why he makes a few people here freak out is a mystery to me. But interestingly, it's the same few people who are in the habit of making this forum unpleasant for the TMers here. You would think, given that Robin has so radically rejected TM, that they'd want to make common cause with him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip But what one doesn't expect is a cult leader, who leaves Neo-Vedism and joins...the Catholic church...only to later re-target his old audience...as they're probably the only ones interested in listeningvia email. Let's keep in mind, if this person were to set foot in Jefferson County, he'd be thrown into jail, no? So if you can't go to Fairfield you use email to get to your audience. I mean that has to be a first in and of itself: Fairfield guru using email lists to gain that lost adulation! This is bullshit, deliberate, vicious, thoroughly malicious bullshit. It's not meant as a joke, it's meant to do harm. Vaj is the kind of person who gets his kicks out of harming people.
[FairfieldLife] The beauty of the narcissist
You see, the beauty of the narcissist is that it is, ultimately, all about oneself. Doesn't matter how or why or what, it's ultimately all about the me. In every situation. One has to watch for that, when one was either raised by narcissists, or never was able to establish any real connections due to life's circumstances, or when one has matured and developed a false self for any number of reasons, or if one was Mommy's golden boy. What the narcissist does, when focused, is hear, but the narcissist does not listen. That is the key...listening. I agree with you Share. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmON_0bzUZc One would talk less, if one was listening more. Have I hit 50 yet? Damn, I'm givin' it the good ol' college try. This is my next indicated step. I thought it was looking for a job, but I'm not ready. It's listening, its volunteering, it's extending beyond the boundaries of FFL. Now, I resist this...because I am rebellious after all. But, it's the next indicated step, and I am powerless over that. The last time I thought it was about a job, it was about a dog. Who am I to know. Once, when visiting my grandma, it occurred to me that every sentence that came out of her mouth started with the word I. Then I noticed my father did the same. Then I noticed I did the same. Learned habit perhaps, but significant enough in itself. Recovery is a bitch.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The beauty of the narcissist
I think you're way over 50, Emily. I just checked. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: You see, the beauty of the narcissist is that it is, ultimately, all about oneself. Doesn't matter how or why or what, it's ultimately all about the me. In every situation. One has to watch for that, when one was either raised by narcissists, or never was able to establish any real connections due to life's circumstances, or when one has matured and developed a false self for any number of reasons, or if one was Mommy's golden boy. What the narcissist does, when focused, is hear, but the narcissist does not listen. That is the key...listening. I agree with you Share. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmON_0bzUZc One would talk less, if one was listening more. Have I hit 50 yet? Damn, I'm givin' it the good ol' college try. This is my next indicated step. I thought it was looking for a job, but I'm not ready. It's listening, its volunteering, it's extending beyond the boundaries of FFL. Now, I resist this...because I am rebellious after all. But, it's the next indicated step, and I am powerless over that. The last time I thought it was about a job, it was about a dog. Who am I to know. Once, when visiting my grandma, it occurred to me that every sentence that came out of her mouth started with the word I. Then I noticed my father did the same. Then I noticed I did the same. Learned habit perhaps, but significant enough in itself. Recovery is a bitch.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
snip You would think, given that Robin has so radically rejected TM, that they'd want to make common cause with him. You are correct, it's not Maharishi that he's rejected, it's TM. The second quote is a testament from Robin that he is committed to seeing where the conversation evolves to. From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 3:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story Not sure what your point here is, Emily. Rather than have me guess, could you give me a clue? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip You would think, given that Robin has so radically rejectedTM, that they'd want to make common cause with him. Robin quotes:  I still experience that there is almost as much Maharishi inside of me as there is me. I don't like it; but that is the consequence of the awesome change he wrought in me. I believe I would be one-half the person I am now able to be if it were not for meeting Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and coming under the tremendous metaphysical integrity of his personality and his consciousness. Secondly, I am not a doctrinaireâ€at least in the sense that I would ever allow what I believed in to spare me the existential tension, dissonance, ordeal of perhaps realizing, in contemplating I could be wrong in those beliefs (wrong here means: they do not correspond with reality), that someone elseâ€even empty billâ€is right. From: authfriend jstein@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! As I understand it, he was barred legally from entering Jefferson County--I assume that's still in effect, not sure--but it had nothing to do with criminality; it was part of the outcome of MIU's lawsuit against him back in 1983. My, oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of decorum or decency. And Vaj isn't willing to say why he hates Robin so much. I have never had the impression that Robin is targeting anyone. Of course he isn't. Targeting them for what? Why? Vaj knows that's nonsense, but he's hoping others don't. He wants to make folks leery of talking to Robin. He is working out some ideas and exchanging them with people who are willing to debate or simply chat with him. That's really the purpose of this forum, is it not? Exactly. I like Robin. I think he is a good guy. Why he makes a few people here freak out is a mystery to me. But interestingly, it's the same few people who are in the habit of making this forum unpleasant for the TMers here. You would think, given that Robin has so radically rejected TM, that they'd want to make common cause with him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip But what one doesn't expect is a cult leader, who leaves Neo-Vedism and joins...the Catholic church...only to later re-target his old audience...as they're probably the only ones interested in listeningvia email. Let's keep in mind, if this person were to set foot in Jefferson County, he'd be thrown into jail, no? So if you can't go to Fairfield you use email to get to your audience. I mean that has to be a first in and of itself: Fairfield guru using email lists to gain that lost adulation! This is bullshit, deliberate, vicious, thoroughly malicious bullshit. It's not meant as a joke, it's meant to do harm. Vaj is the kind of person who gets his kicks out of harming people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The beauty of the narcissist
When do they cut me off? From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 4:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The beauty of the narcissist I think you're way over 50, Emily. I just checked. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: You see, the beauty of the narcissist is that it is, ultimately, all about oneself. Doesn't matter how or why or what, it's ultimately all about the me. In every situation. One has to watch for that, when one was either raised by narcissists, or never was able to establish any real connections due to life's circumstances, or when one has matured and developed a false self for any number of reasons, or if one was Mommy's golden boy. What the narcissist does, when focused, is hear, but the narcissist does not listen. That is the key...listening. I agree with you Share. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmON_0bzUZc One would talk less, if one was listening more. Have I hit 50 yet? Damn, I'm givin' it the good ol' college try. This is my next indicated step. I thought it was looking for a job, but I'm not ready. It's listening, its volunteering, it's extending beyond the boundaries of FFL. Now, I resist this...because I am rebellious after all. But, it's the next indicated step, and I am powerless over that. The last time I thought it was about a job, it was about a dog. Who am I to know. Once, when visiting my grandma, it occurred to me that every sentence that came out of her mouth started with the word I. Then I noticed my father did the same. Then I noticed I did the same. Learned habit perhaps, but significant enough in itself. Recovery is a bitch.
[FairfieldLife] Back to Alex...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v42pkodIlwfeature=youtu.be
[FairfieldLife] Gabby Dougles - In honor of...
Alright then, I leave you with this. http://shine.yahoo.com/team-mom/raising-olympian-gabrielle-douglas-173500313.html
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jul 28 00:00:00 2012 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 04 00:00:00 2012 472 messages as of (UTC) Thu Aug 02 23:52:05 2012 57 Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com 39 Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com 36 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 36 Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 25 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 24 authfriend jst...@panix.com 22 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 22 awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com 19 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 18 iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com 17 merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 17 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com 15 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net 13 sparaig lengli...@cox.net 12 feste37 fest...@yahoo.com 12 Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us 11 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com 11 Robert babajii...@yahoo.com 9 wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com 7 emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com 6 marekreavis reavisma...@sbcglobal.net 5 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com 5 John jr_...@yahoo.com 4 seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net 4 Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 3 eustace10679 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 3 Susan waybac...@yahoo.com 3 Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com 2 salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com 2 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com 2 merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de 2 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 2 wle...@aol.com 2 Richard rich...@infinitepie.net 1 wleed3 wle...@aol.com 1 stevelf ysoy1...@yahoo.com 1 Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com 1 JohnY john_youe...@comcast.net 1 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com Posters: 39 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Guru Papers
Emily, I am about 3/4 the way through The Guru Papers. Did you read this yourself, or just read a review? I am currently in a chapter called Unconditional Love. I only have the opportunity to read two or three pages a day in an ebook format, with large type for my old eyes. I too found that interview with Judith Bourque wonderfully refreshing and believable. The book The Guru Papers gives a fascinating explanation of why this happens in spiritual movements. Now I am going to sign off and enjoy the rest of the evening in quiet. I told Robin that, so I guess I had better actually do it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:11 PM, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote: So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! My, oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of decorum or decency. I have never had the impression that Robin is targeting anyone. He is working out some ideas and exchanging them with people who are willing to debate or simply chat with him. That's really the purpose of this forum, is it not? If we’re honest with ourselves, and honest with the people around us, we hopefully tack close to what’s actually happening, even in the most relative terms, in our life. So the question then becomes, how would you react to someone who caused friends to be expelled from college, some just before graduation, all that I talked to went on an inviolable faith that the person they put trust in was legit and worth risking their young careers, their young lives. How do you react when you hear someone extolling the virtues of maintaining the meditative purity of domes, while you know and have talked to the students that were tricked into violating that sacred space (for those involved in the dome programs); I’ve heard their hopes and their fears, as I spoke to them while they were still doing it, and afterwards. How do you handle this same person recommending abortion for some couples “evolution”? And then there is the demonic confrontations... Then as time passes, you forget most of this, only to run into that same person again, weaving the same old patterns (to your perception) once again. What do you do then Feste? If you don’t get that you’re his target audience Feste, then maybe it’s because the crosshairs are placed so finely on you, you’ve missed their very presence. I like Robin. I think he is a good guy. I would think you two (and many here) share some similar or even same sentimental moments. R’s sentimentality should appeal to many TM folk.
[FairfieldLife] Hate is not a family value (protest signage).
(Like Duh!), so chick-fil-a doesn't believe in gay marriage so now they're hateful?, are these nincompoops for real! Have they really given it any real thought, or do they just like making themselves *feel good* by espousing (indiscriminate) tolerance?, probably the later!
[FairfieldLife] Blue Man Group and Dr. Dan Siegel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ0IEttCjj0 Blue Man Group and Dr. Dan Siegel team up to illustrate the principle behind his new book, Mindsight: The New Science of Personal Transformation! A groundbreaking book on the healing power of mindsight, the potent skill that is the basis for both emotional and social intelligence. Mindsight allows you to make positive changes in your brain and in your life. This isn't mere speculation but the result of twenty-five years of careful hands-on clinical work by Daniel J. Siegel, M.D. A Harvard-trained physician, Dr. Siegel is one of the revolutionary global innovators in the integration of brain science into the practice of psychotherapy. Using case histories from his practice, he shows how, by following the proper steps, nearly everyone can learn how to focus their attention on the internal world of the mind in a way that will literally change the wiring and architecture of their brain. For more information on Mindsight and Dr. Dan Siegel click here: http://drdansiegel.com/?page=bookssub=mindsight
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hate is not a family value (protest signage).
As I recall multiple wives was ok in the old testament, pologimy??? In a message dated 08/02/12 20:51:01 Eastern Daylight Time, no_re...@yahoogroups.com writes: (Like Uh!), so chick-fil-a doesn't believe in gay marriage so now they're hateful?, are these nincompoops for real! Have they really given it any real thought, or do they just like making themselves *feel good* by espousing (indiscriminate) tolerance?, probably the later! To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:11 PM, feste37 feste37@... wrote: So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! My, oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of decorum or decency. I have never had the impression that Robin is targeting anyone. He is working out some ideas and exchanging them with people who are willing to debate or simply chat with him. That's really the purpose of this forum, is it not? If we're honest with ourselves, and honest with the people around us, we hopefully tack close to what's actually happening, even in the most relative terms, in our life. However, that is not what Vaj is doing. He is not being honest either with himself or the readers of FFL. So the question then becomes, how would you react to someone who caused friends to be expelled from college, some just before graduation, all that I talked to went on an inviolable faith that the person they put trust in was legit and worth risking their young careers, their young lives. How do you react when you hear someone extolling the virtues of maintaining the meditative purity of domes, while you know and have talked to the students that were tricked into violating that sacred space (for those involved in the dome programs); It is astonishing how completely Vaj has missed (or pretended to miss) the point Robin was making about maintaining the purity of the domes. Not surprisingly, iranitea appears to have missed it too. This reminds me of nothing so much as the Romney campaign's attempts to take things Obama has said completely out of context in its commercials with the intention of deceiving the electorate about what Obama stands for. They knew precisely what they were doing. I've heard their hopes and their fears, as I spoke to them while they were still doing it, and afterwards. How do you handle this same person recommending abortion for some couples evolution? And then there is the demonic confrontations... Then as time passes, you forget most of this, only to run into that same person again, weaving the same old patterns (to your perception) once again. What do you do then Feste? That is not Vaj's perception. Vaj knows better. Vaj is attempting to impose perceptions he knows will be detrimental to Robin on the rest of us--perceptions Vaj knows are false. If you don't get that you're his target audience Feste, then maybe it's because the crosshairs are placed so finely on you, you've missed their very presence. Utter bullshit. I think feste is very much aware of the crosshairs Vaj has placed on him. They're remarkably crude, and entirely malicious. I like Robin. I think he is a good guy. I would think you two (and many here) share some similar or even same sentimental moments. R's sentimentality should appeal to many TM folk.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip You would think, given that Robin has so radically rejected TM, that they'd want to make common cause with him. You are correct, it's not Maharishi that he's rejected, it's TM. No, Emily, it's very definitely both. The second quote is a testament from Robin that he is committed to seeing where the conversation evolves to. Right. And...? From: authfriend jstein@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 3:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story  Not sure what your point here is, Emily. Rather than have me guess, could you give me a clue? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snipàYou would think, given that Robin has so radically rejectedTM, that they'd want to make common cause with him. Robin quotes: àI still experience that there is almost as much Maharishi inside of me as there is me. I don't like it; but that is the consequence of the awesome change he wrought in me. I believe I would be one-half the person I am now able to be if it were not for meeting Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and coming under the tremendous metaphysical integrity of his personality and his consciousness. Secondly, I am not a doctrinaireââ¬at least in the sense that I would ever allow what I believed in to spare me the existential tension, dissonance, ordeal of perhaps realizing, in contemplating I could be wrong in those beliefs (wrong here means: they do not correspond with reality), that someone elseââ¬even empty billââ¬is right. From: authfriend jstein@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! As I understand it, he was barred legally from entering Jefferson County--I assume that's still in effect, not sure--but it had nothing to do with criminality; it was part of the outcome of MIU's lawsuit against him back in 1983. My, oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of decorum or decency. And Vaj isn't willing to say why he hates Robin so much. I have never had the impression that Robin is targeting anyone. Of course he isn't. Targeting them for what? Why? Vaj knows that's nonsense, but he's hoping others don't. He wants to make folks leery of talking to Robin. He is working out some ideas and exchanging them with people who are willing to debate or simply chat with him. That's really the purpose of this forum, is it not? Exactly. I like Robin. I think he is a good guy. Why he makes a few people here freak out is a mystery to me. But interestingly, it's the same few people who are in the habit of making this forum unpleasant for the TMers here. You would think, given that Robin has so radically rejected TM, that they'd want to make common cause with him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: snip But what one doesn't expect is a cult leader, who leaves Neo-Vedism and joins...the Catholic church...only to later re-target his old audience...as they're probably the only ones interested in listeningvia email. Let's keep in mind, if this person were to set foot in Jefferson County, he'd be thrown into jail, no? So if you can't go to Fairfield you use email to get to your audience. I mean that has to be a first in and of itself: Fairfield guru using email lists to gain that lost adulation! This is bullshit, deliberate, vicious, thoroughly malicious bullshit. It's not meant as a joke, it's meant to do harm. Vaj is the kind of person who gets his kicks out of harming people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] To Share: Love and Happiness
Thanks, Emily, and same for you... re Judith Bournique: our public library carries her book and I read it about a year ago. As I posted recently, what she said did not and does not bother me. I do feel for people who strain against their nature to be celibate in the hopes of eternal salvation. As my post on The Great Stupa suggests, I actually believe committed intimate partnership to be a good and healthy path. But one that has decades of accumulated litter spoiling it. It's no wonder to me that we humans can make horrendous mistakes in this area of life. Ho'oponopono ing on that (-: Happy listening. This morning in the Dome I heard a hooty owl. I felt the sound as if inside of me. Tonight the chirping of catydids and the whir of the fan. Tomorrow, who knows what sounds will fill me... From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 4:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] To Share: Love and Happiness Posted before but happiness is when you real feel good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsU6_eSG4k4feature=fvwrel
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hate is not a family value (protest signage).
You guys keep working at it and you'll soon reach your goal of devolving into Neanderthals. Pologimy? Is that an Olympic sport? :-D On 08/02/2012 05:55 PM, wleed3 wrote: As I recall multiple wives was ok in the old testament, pologimy??? In a message dated 08/02/12 20:51:01 Eastern Daylight Time, no_re...@yahoogroups.com writes: (Like Uh!), so chick-fil-a doesn't believe in gay marriage so now they're hateful?, are these nincompoops for real! Have they really given it any real thought, or do they just like making themselves *feel good* by espousing (indiscriminate) tolerance?, probably the later! To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hate is not a family value (protest signage).
I think we need to remember that the Bible isn't the only inspired scripture of God, also, Christ spoke in 'parables', most in that day (except his inner disciples) weren't ready or able to understand the profound truths he came to teach. Except for some of the nitwits who take the Bible literally in order to discredit it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@... wrote: As I recall multiple wives was ok in the old testament, pologimy??? In a message dated 08/02/12 20:51:01 Eastern Daylight Time, no_re...@yahoogroups.com writes: (Like Uh!), so chick-fil-a doesn't believe in gay marriage so now they're hateful?, are these nincompoops for real! Have they really given it any real thought, or do they just like making themselves *feel good* by espousing (indiscriminate) tolerance?, probably the later! To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Romney's Right Wing/Neo-Facist Policies/2012
Here are some of the policies which I would characterize as 'Neo-Facist'... 1. Suppress the Opposition Vote, wherever possible... 2. Start rumors of 'Secret Muslim' connexions...by accusing Hillary's aid and President Obama/spreading these rumors through the 'Christian Right Wing Churches'... 3. Create 'Big Lies' in 'advertizing' and repeat those lies...over and over again. 4. Allow the 'Elite Rich' to hide money and avoid paying taxes, while increasing taxes on the Middle Class and the Poor.. 5. Create an atmosphere of 'Homophobia'...and hatred towards that group... 6, Create an atmosphere of tension and in world affairs, thus providing for war-mongering profits. 7. Protect the oil interests at all levels, and suppress the desire for alternative fuels... 8. Lie about the reality of 'Global Warming' 9. Add your own observation. ~Robert
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Romney's Right Wing/Neo-Facist Policies/2012
On 08/02/2012 07:21 PM, Robert wrote: Here are some of the policies which I would characterize as 'Neo-Facist'... 1. Suppress the Opposition Vote, wherever possible... 2. Start rumors of 'Secret Muslim' connexions...by accusing Hillary's aid and President Obama/spreading these rumors through the 'Christian Right Wing Churches'... 3. Create 'Big Lies' in 'advertizing' and repeat those lies...over and over again. 4. Allow the 'Elite Rich' to hide money and avoid paying taxes, while increasing taxes on the Middle Class and the Poor.. 5. Create an atmosphere of 'Homophobia'...and hatred towards that group... 6, Create an atmosphere of tension and in world affairs, thus providing for war-mongering profits. 7. Protect the oil interests at all levels, and suppress the desire for alternative fuels... 8. Lie about the reality of 'Global Warming' 9. Add your own observation. ~Robert We can only hope the Mittiot doesn't get more Neanderthals to follow him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
Seems a bit nutty to me, Vaj, quite honestly. It's like you've invented a demon that no one else can see. I don't know what you mean by weaving the same old patterns. What patterns might those be? As for selecting a target audience, that's what all writers (and posters here) surely do. We all want an audience, we all want to be read. Otherwise, why bother? You have a target audience here on FFL, too, and I don't see anything wrong with that. But as far as your attitude to Robin is concerned, I would have hoped that the passage of time would have softened your views. It's nearly 30 years ago now! I can't see that Robin has done anything on FFL that would justify the level of venom you display toward him. He's contributed a lot to this forum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:11 PM, feste37 feste37@... wrote: So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! My, oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of decorum or decency. I have never had the impression that Robin is targeting anyone. He is working out some ideas and exchanging them with people who are willing to debate or simply chat with him. That's really the purpose of this forum, is it not? If we're honest with ourselves, and honest with the people around us, we hopefully tack close to what's actually happening, even in the most relative terms, in our life. So the question then becomes, how would you react to someone who caused friends to be expelled from college, some just before graduation, all that I talked to went on an inviolable faith that the person they put trust in was legit and worth risking their young careers, their young lives. How do you react when you hear someone extolling the virtues of maintaining the meditative purity of domes, while you know and have talked to the students that were tricked into violating that sacred space (for those involved in the dome programs); I've heard their hopes and their fears, as I spoke to them while they were still doing it, and afterwards. How do you handle this same person recommending abortion for some couples evolution? And then there is the demonic confrontations... Then as time passes, you forget most of this, only to run into that same person again, weaving the same old patterns (to your perception) once again. What do you do then Feste? If you don't get that you're his target audience Feste, then maybe it's because the crosshairs are placed so finely on you, you've missed their very presence. I like Robin. I think he is a good guy. I would think you two (and many here) share some similar or even same sentimental moments. R's sentimentality should appeal to many TM folk.
[FairfieldLife] 'History Channel's~ Bio of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi'...
http://blip.tv/raja-felix/maharishi-oskn-history-channel-3723794 Highlights include... Donovan smokes a joint before intiation by Maharishi. Jerry Jarvis says Maharishi 'exaggerates' in relation to 'Flying Sutra' and ME. Maharishi says he doesn't care what he is remembered for... Maharishi is asked where the money will come from for various pojects, says... It will come from 'wherever it is now'...lol. Watch this very interesting and objective take on the Life of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: snip I was pointing out what I thought was a veiled ad hominem by Judy. It wasn't veiled, it was right up front. This is not necessarily absolutely clear because normal language is rather loose logically. What I did, whether it was in error or not, had nothing to do with the context of the argument she was having with Vaj. Logic is just a set of rules, it has no content, any content will do; if the rules work, deductions can be made, if not, falsehoods reveal themselves. Ad hominem is an informal fallacy; strictly speaking it is a kind of non sequitur. Xeno, there is ad hominem, and there is the ad hominem fallacy. Not all ad hominems are fallacies; it depends on the context in which they appear. Ad hominem reasoning in an argument--argumentum ad hominem--is a fallacy. A negative personal remark not used as reasoning in an argument is not a fallacy, it's just a negative personal remark. What I said to Vaj was the latter, not the former. snip Precisely. Perhaps this was an impish point on my part, having received such points from Judy from time to time, my interjection in her argument with Vaj might be construed to be a veiled ad hominem directed at her. Judy said responding to Vaj, 'You are not in any position to complain about ad hominems, poetic or otherwise'. It does not matter what position he is in, he still may complain, whether it does good or ill. I consider Judy's comment to be an ad hominem, and just that, nothing more, nothing about context. You said it was an ad homimen *fallacy* because you thought I was attempting to use it to refute his statement, Poetic ad hominems are still ad hominems. Of course that is not what I was doing. There's not a thing wrong with Vaj's statement, nor does what I said constitute an attempt at refutation. It was an observation about Vaj's hypocrisy, because he himself makes frequent use of ad hominems. It was a negative personal remark, an ad hominem, but not an argumentum ad hominem. That he still may complain is a non sequitur. Of course he may, but it's hypocritical of him to do so, which was my point to start with. You say Nothing about context, but of course it *was* about context. It's just that you got the context wrong.
[FairfieldLife] 'Sarah Palin calls Former V.P. Cheney a 'Dick'...
Sarah Palin likes to call Cheney a 'dick'... Since Cheney said picking her for V.P. was a mistake... Meanwhile, daughter Liz Cheney, sticks up for Palin... Saying that Palin was more qualified than Obama and Biden combined...lol. Furthermore, rumor has it that Liz and Sarah will hold a 'Mud-Westling Event'... To raise funds for Liz' bid as a 'Tea Party Candidate'... Possibly to be held in Tampa, during the Repubican Convention... Stay tuned...
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'History Channel's~ Bio of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi'...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: http://blip.tv/raja-felix/maharishi-oskn-history-channel-3723794 Highlights include... Donovan smokes a joint before intiation by Maharishi. Jerry Jarvis says Maharishi 'exaggerates' in relation to 'Flying Sutra' and ME. Maharishi says he doesn't care what he is remembered for... Maharishi is asked where the money will come from for various pojects, says... It will come from 'wherever it is now'...lol. Watch this very interesting and objective take on the Life of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Thanks for the synopsis, I think I'll take a look.
[FairfieldLife] Man suffers from unnatural behavior. MMY-Video
There is natural behavior and unnatural behavior, if you break the laws of nature (or the laws of natural behavior) you suffer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyPJaxF1S4w
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip You would think, given that Robin has so radically rejected TM, that they'd want to make common cause with him. You are correct, it's not Maharishi that he's rejected, it's TM. No, Emily, it's very definitely both. Perhaps this will clarify. You quoted Robin: snip I still experience that there is almost as much Maharishi inside of me as there is me. I don't like it; but that is the consequence of the awesome change he wrought in me. I believe I would be one-half the person I am now able to be if it were not for meeting Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and coming under the tremendous metaphysical integrity of his personality and his consciousness. He wrote this paragraph in a post to Share. But he went on to say: I don't believe anyone can ever become objective about Maharishi, and find the truthful perspective on him without holding within themselves that highest experience of appreciation for him (they once had), while at the same time, realizing that Maharishi did not even begin to deliver on his promise to us, that in some fatal way he was flawed as a person, most especially as a being holding inside himself the truth about Creation. There's the rejection.
[FairfieldLife] Jesus God, these horses just kill me
http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028 Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous Dutch horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The beauty of the narcissist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: When do they cut me off?  Aww, if I had my way, never. From: authfriend jstein@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 4:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The beauty of the narcissist  I think you're way over 50, Emily. I just checked. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: You see, the beauty of the narcissist is that it is, ultimately, all about oneself.  Doesn't matter how or why or what, it's ultimately all about the me.  In every situation.  One has to watch for that, when one was either raised by narcissists, or never was able to establish any real connections due to life's circumstances, or when one has matured and developed a false self for any number of reasons, or if one was Mommy's golden boy.  What the narcissist does, when focused, is hear, but the narcissist does not listen.  That is the key...listening.  I agree with you Share.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmON_0bzUZc   One would talk less, if one was listening more.  Have I hit 50 yet?  Damn, I'm givin' it the good ol' college try.  This is my next indicated step.  I thought it was looking for a job, but I'm not ready.  It's listening, its volunteering, it's extending beyond the boundaries of FFL.  Now, I resist this...because I am rebellious after all.  But, it's the next indicated step, and I am powerless over that.  The last time I thought it was about a job, it was about a dog.  Who am I to know.  Once, when visiting my grandma, it occurred to me that every sentence that came out of her mouth started with the word I.  Then I noticed my father did the same.  Then I noticed I did the same.  Learned habit perhaps, but significant enough in itself.  Recovery is a bitch.Â
