[FairfieldLife] China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World
This is an amazing accomplishment of their communist government. As such, we wonder how were they able to get the support of Nature to complete this herculean task. http://origin-www.livemint.com/Politics/5jyJk7Ekgfz4jEiQjoi60L/China-to-open-worlds-longest-highspeed-rail-line.html?facet=print
[FairfieldLife] Re: China, goldmine for Windoze Phoney?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: Naah! Don't get fooled by this: http://nokiapoweruser.com/2012/12/25/black-lumia-920-completely-sold-out-at-amazon-china-yet-again/ The real reason is shortage of Snapdragon chips, etc! ROFLOL! http://nokiapoweruser.com/2012/12/26/lumia-620-tops-sgs-iii-and-htc-8s-in-the-browser-benchmarking-tests-done-by-gsmarena/ Samsung Ativ S has the fastest browser??
[FairfieldLife] 21 December 2012—Raja Luis reports on the Yogic Flyers at Monte Alban, Mexico
Maharishi’s Global Family Chat Summary December 21, 2012 Raja Luis reports on the Yogic Flyers at Monte Alban celebrating the start of a new time of harmony and peace Raja Luis thrilled us all with the news of the success of the Yogic Flying celebration at Monte Alban in Oaxaca, Mexico. He thanked everyone who helped make the gathering possible, and based on this success he invited everyone to come together for a global Yogic Flying competition next year. By that time it is planned that the project will have expanded, and many more schools will be participating, so there should be about eight times the current number of Yogic Flyers. The TM Teachers at Monte Alban emphasised the deep ‘spectacular silence’ in the group meditation and TM Sidhi programme. The government organized the event beautifully. All the buses arrived in good time, and the Secretary of Education, his wife, department officials, school principals and teachers participated in the group meditation. Dr Bevan Morris thanked Raja Luis and his team of Teachers, saying the event marks a great highlight in the movement’s history – a huge turning point in the creation of groups to create Global Invincibility. Raja Harris said that when he informed the Maharishi Vedic Pandits in the Brahmasthan of India, there was huge wave of bliss and clapping. They sent their congratulations and said they will do everything to support. The report ended with a very moving video of students describing their experience with Transcendental Meditation. * http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/12/24/restructuring-the-apocalypse-8000-mayan-zapotec-and-mixtec-students-meditate-for-world-peace-to-create-the-end-of-the-war-torn-world/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seasons greetings from Londinium...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: fyi - found Test For Echo, leading off with Half The World: (c) Rush Half The World Good one. I always liked his lyrics, he's a kindred spirit to me. I like his mix of science, spirituality and awe at nature. He seems as genuinely amazed about life and the world as when he was a kid. It's good to keep your eyes open like that. It's unusual to have the drummer writing lyrics and I always felt a bit sorry for the singer who has to get a catchy tune out of some of his more technical stuff like this: Freewill There are those who think that life has nothing left to chance A host of holy horrors to direct our aimless dance A planet of playthings We dance on the strings Of powers we cannot perceive 'The stars aren't aligned Or the gods are malign...' Blame is better to give than receive You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill I will choose a path that's clear I will choose freewill There are those who think That they were dealt a losing hand The cards were stacked against them They weren't born in Lotusland All preordained A prisoner in chains A victim of venomous fate Kicked in the face You can pray for a place In heaven's unearthly estate Each of us A cell of awareness Imperfect and incomplete Genetic blends With uncertain ends On a fortune hunt that's far too fleet. And another good Christmas one. Time Stand Still I turn my back to the wind To catch my breath Before I start off again. Driven on without a moment to spend To pass an evening with a drink and a friend I let my skin get too thin I'd like to pause No matter what I pretend Like some pilgrim Who learns to transcend Learns to live as if each step was the end (Time stand still) I'm not looking back But I want to look around me now (Time stand still) See more of the people and the places that surround me now Freeze this moment a little bit longer Make each sensation a little bit stronger Experience slips away Experience slips away I turn my face to the sun Close my eyes Let my defences down All those wounds that I can't get unwound I let my past go too fast No time to pause If I could slow it all down Like some captain, whose ship runs aground I can wait until the tide comes around (Time stand still) I'm not looking back But I want to look around me now (Time stand still) See more of the people and the places that surround me now Freeze this moment a little bit longer Make each impression a little bit stronger Freeze this motion a little bit longer The innocence slips away The innocence slips away... Summer's going fast, nights growing colder Children growing up, old friends growing older Freeze this moment a little bit longer Make each sensation a little bit stronger Experience slips away Experience slips away... The innocence slips away That's from Hold your fire one of their best albums. Half the world hates What half the world does every day Half the world waits While half gets on with it anyway Half the world lives Half the world makes Half the world gives While the other half takes Half the world is Half the world was Half the world thinks While the other half does Half the world talks With half a mind on what they say Half the world walks With half a mind to run away Half the world lies Half the world learns Half the world flies As half the world turns Half the world cries Half the world laughs Half the world tries To be the other half Half of us divided Like a torn-up photograph Half of us are trying To reach the other half Half the world cares While half the world is wasting the day Half the world shares While half the world is stealing away --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Power pop at its best - you've reminded me - I have a few Rush CDs and what a better band for Xmas?? Time to rock!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Wow, it *does* sound defective - Refund! Yeah, I have quite a cassette collection too, mostly from 80's and 90's - REM, Rush, E. Costello, T. Heads, Bowie, etc. and, er, The Psychedelic Furs(!). The first four names there were among the things I downloaded before giving up, Rush have been my fave band since I was 14! And they're still going strong. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: I bought one from Sandisk a couple years ago. The user interface is awful. What I did though was load my own music on it manually (not using the autosync function), and
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seasons greetings from Londinium...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Salyavin, Same to you, old chap! We're having a rather wet weather here in San Francisco, CA as well. But I like it better than the snow that I used to endure when I was in Seattle, WA. I love a bit of snow, it's so rare over here these days though. It doesn't like like we'll get any this holiday, nature is still paying it's debt from all the dry years we've had recently and most of the country is underwater. We have many reasons to celerate during this Christmas season. For one, the Mayan prophesy was wrong. And, we get live another cycle of the Mayan calendar count, hopefully. Further, I'm still looking for evidence of higher consiousness among our leaders here in the US. By the looks of it, they're about to lead the country over the fiscal cliff very soon, if they don't get their act together. Stay tuned. It sounds like a disaster is looming, or is it the press making a mountain out of a molehill? Difficult to tell from here. Cheers! JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: Merry Christmas y'all. Hope you are having a super time whatever you are doing and wherever you are. And that you get some traditional crimbo weather to remember rather than the warm rain we have here. I'm busy putting to the test the a new theory that too much chocolate isn't necessarily a good thing. I'm starting to suspect it will be proved correct. looks like the dog will be forced to endure another long walk in the woods or I won't have any room for tea and mince pies. Luckily she is the stoic type. I also hope you didn't get a Sony walkman MP3 player because mine is driving me nuts. It's got to be faulty as no human could design something so difficult to use unless they were seriously sadistic which doesn't sound like a good marketing strategy to me. I think the BBC must have believed the Mayan apocalypse prediction as they didn't bother making any thing worth watching and are instead broadcasting old episodes of Porridge and Blackadder's Christmas Carol. Marvellous. Life could be a lot worse.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Hurt Community
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Xeno, the model of Bevan as the supreme TM leader to follow is different than Hagelin's. The general on the Western Front of the British army at the Somme who then again followed after the Somme at Ypres is the better example of Bevan. The commonwealth general was committed to massive infantry frontal assault against the machine gun and other modern weaponry well past the time when it had been well proven obsolete. That guy was pig-headed as a character trait. He had all the credentials to leadership and was certainly supremely confident in himself, so much so that he could not see any problem with his play book or reason to change or do something otherwise. It was only a matter of will to carry the infantry assault to the breakthrough! On the opening day of the Somme the Brits took 20,000 casualties. Within weeks it was 400,000. The flower of Greater Britain. He had all the credentials and that way of confidence about him. After the Somme he went on and did it again at Ypres with another 250,000 casualties. He got brought home as the unassailable 'hero of the Somme'. Little ground, heavy casualties. The numbers tell the story of Field Marshal Sir Douglas Haig sort of like the tenure of our university President with the movement's Dome numbers. Like Haig our guy has certainly been resolute to a fault. -Buck ,snip, B.H. Liddell-Hart, a distinguished military historian who had been wounded on the Western Front, went from admirer to skeptic to unremitting critic. He wrote in his diary: He [Haig] was a man of supreme egoism and utter lack of scruple--who, to his overweening ambition, sacrificed hundreds of thousands of men. A man who betrayed even his most devoted assistants as well as the Government which he served. A man who gained his ends by trickery of a kind that was not merely immoral but criminal. Om Shanti, It reads so Om similarly! A Flaw of excess in Any one Virtue- This is the key to Haig's failure as a general. Every virtue becomes a flaw when pushed to excess. Daring becomes impetuosity. Prudence becomes irresolution. Will and resolution become stubbornness and pigheadedness. Haig evidently believed that will and resolve could carry any obstacle. [excerpts:] The indictment against Haig and his pigheaded insistence of fighting Third Ypres at a cost of more than 250,000 British casualties is not simply one of losses, though that would be enough. What secures Third Ypres' status as one of history's great military blunders is the fact that while Haig thought it was a victory, the battle very nearly lost the war for the Allies. Churchill dryly points out, hopes of decisive victory grew With every step away from the British front line and reached absolute conviction in the Intelligence Department. If there was deep mistrust between civilian and military leadership, Haig was to blame for it. Swathed in sublime self-confidence, he always promised great success and, as events unfolded, changed the definition of success. So he felt contempt for the politicians, and they for him. The politicians were in the right but didn't have the courage to act on their convictions and simply fire Haig. The compromise--letting him keep his command but denying him the reserves he needed--was the worst of many bad alternatives. Field Marshal Sir Douglas Haig became the youngest major general in the army in 1904. At the outbreak of World War I, Haig helped organize the British Expeditionary Force, then took command of it. A similar course to a young Bevan coming in to position by Maharishi in the 1970's as the equivalent of a TM Movement's Field Marshal from then supplanting others. Haig is a tremendously interesting example of the 'deceived' and 'failed' in so costly leadership emerging with laurels. In numbers and costs in war that were spectacular in a way similar like the decline of TM in the Bevan years. So it is and ere we are with Bevan the Prime Minister now the right hand of our TM King resolute to the end. In Churchill's devastating judgment, Haig wore down alike the manhood and the guns of the British army almost to destruction. Keegan is also merciless: On the Somme, [Haig] had sent the flower of British youth to death or mutilation; at Passchendaele he had tipped the survivors in the slough of despond. Of the final assault that carried the ruined, pointless little village of Passchendaele, British military historian J.F.C. Fuller, wrote, To persist in this tactically impossible battle was an inexcusable piece of pigheadness on the part of Haig. This is the key to Haig's failure as a general. Every virtue becomes a flaw when pushed to excess. Daring becomes impetuosity. Prudence becomes irresolution. Will and resolution become
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seasons greetings from Londinium...
Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon:
1 laNDra (prob. fr. the French %{londres}) , London L. [:D]
L. = only in lexicons?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers?
From my point of view, if the so called yogic flying was a effective as claimed, you would see the greatest effect at the epicenter, meaning closest to the flying group - this should mean over the years extraordinary results in Fairfield and Jefferson County or even all of Iowa - but it hasn't EVER happened. The TMO says that it has effects all over America but things stay the same in the local area? TMO has consistently said Ah, we had a great effect cause we said we had a great effect, believe us when we say we have a great effect and keep sending money so we can continue to have the grand effect that we say we are having. There is another post here on FFL talking about the grand effect of the MExican group that refers to how well the government organized the event, how they brought the buses in on time - WTF!! If the Mexican government organized the event, why did the TMO ask for donations to pay for having everyone bused??? With or without a tinfoil hat, I can see these guys are wanting to continue to ride the gravy train - I look forward to the day that Tony, Bevan and all the rest are exposed for the frauds they are, the TMO folds, Marshys nevvies in India raid all the Movements assets leaving the TMO in ashes and Bevan and the boys have to make a living for themselves washing dishes or some other menial labor job, worrying how to pay the rent and utilities like the rest of us instead of living off the fat of the land in a global ashram paid for by others. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers? Merry Christmas, MJ! ...wait, lemme secure the hat au foil de tin, prior to responding with substance...ok, set: Yeah, it is tough to prove a negative. On the background of an always difficult world, how do you show evidence that something even worse didn't happen? As the French would say, impossible. lol Over the last 60 years, there has been a lot of progress and a lot of conflict. Who to assign praise/blame to? I like the overall trend that more people are empowered to do what they want to, globally, even though it results these days in some terrific violence. Along with the potential for chaos, though, pervasive local, national, and global, communication, is also making it difficult to maintain the obsolete power structures of the past - e.g. the last US election secured, because of a YouTube video revealing the true nature of the loser. And secrets of any kind have become impossible to keep (WikiLeaks). How porous everything has become. Is it the much vaunted Age of Enlightenment? Pretty obviously not, though now that things are breaking loose, in flux and in motion, we have half a chance in hell of getting there. :-) ok, hat back on wig stand... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I cannot dispute the numbers of flyers in India or Mexico cuz I am not there - I wish with all my heart the things you say would have been or even would be true, but the state of the world as it is is proof enough for me that the effect of both group practice of TM and the yogic flying has been an utter failure, not because of lack of numbers but simply because the stated effects just aren't there - nearly 60 years is more than enough time for proof to surface - it is all still just a promise of futures and I wouldn't buy them from the TMO anymore than I would Bernie Madoff - but it woulda been nice if it hadda been true From: srijau@... srijau@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers? Â There are more than tens of thousands of students and pundits in India and you will have no problem with the independent confirmation of that, indeed the problems of the largest private educator in India and the legal disputes over the land assets for future Pundit campuses have been raised in Parliament; as well the extraordinary successes are everyday in the Indian press for all to see as Maharishi Vidya Mandir students are constantly in or at the top of educational competitions all the time. Yes there was some money 'wasted by Maharishi's way of dealing with the corruption of the permit authorities in India by presenting them with a fait accompli instead of going along with institutionalized bribery, but all kinds of financial safeguards including detailed reporting and close donor supervision of expenditure have been put in place now. The cost of buses meant that there could not be many Yogic Flyers to Monte Alban and indeed it is unlikely one could even rent that many buses on short notice. If
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: China, goldmine for Windoze Phoney?
My youngest brother in law is giving me his old Ipad. I'm going this morning for lessons from my 19 yr old nephew who's good at all that. Yay! From: card cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: China, goldmine for Windoze Phoney? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: Naah! Don't get fooled by this: http://nokiapoweruser.com/2012/12/25/black-lumia-920-completely-sold-out-at-amazon-china-yet-again/ The real reason is shortage of Snapdragon chips, etc! ROFLOL! http://nokiapoweruser.com/2012/12/26/lumia-620-tops-sgs-iii-and-htc-8s-in-the-browser-benchmarking-tests-done-by-gsmarena/ Samsung Ativ S has the fastest browser??
[FairfieldLife] Re: China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World
.. able to get the support of Natureand a little little effort-an aesopean's little by little-may be [;)] CCTV in English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6AAQDY8rm0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6AAQDY8rm0 And for our Mandarin lovers at FFL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shXs8q5dIls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shXs8q5dIls sì yì céng yóu chù qiáo líng zài dù shí jiÄng shÄn rú yÇ'u dài huÄ liÇ gèng wú sÄ« Remember the temple, this route has been traveled before, Recalling the bridge that has been crossed again. It seems the hills and rivers have been waiting, And flowers and willows become selfless now. .. [http://img618.ph.126.net/SrIZ6qwJl8KUdupCkpqnKw==/1693634934869914994.j\ pg] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: This is an amazing accomplishment of their communist government. As such, we wonder how were they able to get the support of Nature to complete this herculean task. http://origin-www.livemint.com/Politics/5jyJk7Ekgfz4jEiQjoi60L/China-to-\ open-worlds-longest-highspeed-rail-line.html?facet=print
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
Dear Jack, Let me try. Probably that it is a non-issue as it relates to spiritual practices like this meditation which the TM movement is about, that it's an issue the TM movement does not need to 'have a position on' let alone sponsor a position on. That people who want the TM movement to make a position one way or the other need to get a different hobby. That people who try to use the movement's apparatus of teaching meditation to push their own other activist agendas should leave the organization. It's about that simple a Dharma. Thanks, -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? From: seekliberation seekliberation@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies
Buck, do you remember the author and or book wherein Hagelin was supposedly John Adams reincarnated and Bob Roth was Thomas Paine? From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 9:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies Casting John Hagelin as George Washington would be really good. And our Turqb as the Prince Juda Ben Hur. Great Christmas. -Buck Hope to get to The Crossing before the day is over. One of the Best Christmas stories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wpC8w0_k34 Ben Hur We started with Ben Hur X-mas eve... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSDXrDQEDjg Ben Hur meets Jesus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LHWyaeEHY
Re: [FairfieldLife] How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
Maybe what's happening is some projecting of human qualities onto God? I thought doing TM was practicing all 8 limbs at once. Does it say that in back of Science of Being? From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 7:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] How long will it take to reach CC-MMY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiTzu_SxTis I think you need to practice ALL eight limbs of YOGA, Yes? MMY says all eight limbs MUST be practiced simultaneously, Charlie used to say, 7 lifetimes. MMY/Gita Why is God a *jealous* God? Because unless you put HIM first, he will not come!
[FairfieldLife] Re: China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World
OTOH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NChjaYfqxs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NChjaYfqxs [http://www.silverrailtech.com/sites/default/files/ChinaTrainQueue.jpg] China still needs billions more in rail investment to remove bottlenecks in cargo transport, ease overcrowding in passenger transport and develop commuter lines in its sprawling mega-cities. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: .. able to get the support of Natureand a little little effort-an aesopean's little by little-may be [;)] CCTV in English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6AAQDY8rm0 And for our Mandarin lovers at FFL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shXs8q5dIls sì yì céng yóu chù qiáo líng zài dù shí jiÄng shÄn rú yÇ'u dài huÄ liÇ gèng wú sÄ« Remember the temple, this route has been traveled before, Recalling the bridge that has been crossed again. It seems the hills and rivers have been waiting, And flowers and willows become selfless now. .. [http://img618.ph.126.net/SrIZ6qwJl8KUdupCkpqnKw==/1693634934869914994.j\ \ pg] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: This is an amazing accomplishment of their communist government. As such, we wonder how were they able to get the support of Nature to complete this herculean task. http://origin-www.livemint.com/Politics/5jyJk7Ekgfz4jEiQjoi60L/China-to-\ \ open-worlds-longest-highspeed-rail-line.html?facet=print
Re: [FairfieldLife] China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World
I get the impression that lots of Chinese people live quite dharmic lives. I think that would give support of Nature. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World This is an amazing accomplishment of their communist government. As such, we wonder how were they able to get the support of Nature to complete this herculean task. http://origin-www.livemint.com/Politics/5jyJk7Ekgfz4jEiQjoi60L/China-to-open-worlds-longest-highspeed-rail-line.html?facet=print
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
During my time at MIU/MUM, the question came up in private conversations. Open discussion about homosexuality never came up in class; anything controversial was never to be talked about in class. But in private conversation, it was agreed upon by most that homsexuality was bad for evolution, according to Vedic Science. Personally, I don't know of any of the 5 major world religions that don't have a derogatory attitude towards gays/lesbians. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? From: seekliberation seekliberation@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies
Hi my dear Christmas Angel... and that John Hagelin was the reincarnation of James Otis, a Boston lawyer who was considered to be a genius, who helped spark the revolutionary movement by taking the British to court regarding the Writs of Assistance, an illegal search and seizure law? [http://www.iisis.net/uploads/images/1%20Ryerson%20Semkiw/Walter%20Walsc\ h/2IISISJamesOtisJohnHagelinReincarnation.JPG] Return of the Revolutionaries: The Case for Reincarnation and Soul Groups ... By Walter Semkiw may be? http://tinyurl.com/cvd5vhm http://tinyurl.com/cvd5vhm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Buck, do you remember the author and or book wherein Hagelin was supposedly John Adams reincarnated and Bob Roth was Thomas Paine? From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 9:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies  Casting John Hagelin as George Washington would be really good. And our Turqb as the Prince Juda Ben Hur. Great Christmas. -Buck Hope to get to The Crossing before the day is over. One of the Best Christmas stories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wpC8w0_k34 Ben Hur We started with Ben Hur X-mas eve... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSDXrDQEDjg Ben Hur meets Jesus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LHWyaeEHY
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies
Oy, my memory is definitely flawed, angelic or not (-: yep, that's the one I was thinking of, thanks for having an unflawed memory. Also angelic perhaps? Well the resemblance is pretty cool I think. What a funny old world...How about Roth and Paine? From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies Hi my dear Christmas Angel...and that John Hagelin was the reincarnation of James Otis, a Boston lawyer who was considered to be a genius, who helped spark the revolutionary movement by taking the British to court regarding the Writs of Assistance, an illegal search and seizure law? Return of the Revolutionaries: The Case for Reincarnation and Soul Groups ... By Walter Semkiw may be? http://tinyurl.com/cvd5vhm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Buck, do you remember the author and or book wherein Hagelin was supposedly John Adams reincarnated and Bob Roth was Thomas Paine? From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 9:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies  Casting John Hagelin as George Washington would be really good. And our Turqb as the Prince Juda Ben Hur. Great Christmas. -Buck Hope to get to The Crossing before the day is over. One of the Best Christmas stories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wpC8w0_k34 Ben Hur We started with Ben Hur X-mas eve... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSDXrDQEDjg Ben Hur meets Jesus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LHWyaeEHY
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
You know, the extraordinarily revolutionary thing about Maharishi's teaching is that it says that everyone should meditate. Not just should but must for very sound scientific reasons. Meditation for all Regardless of politics, gender roles, even sexual orientation that this meditation and the science of meditation is the essential ingredient for all humanity moving progressively forward in their birthright. Even tea-party nuts, vegans, omnivores, atheists, Republicans and Islamicists. It is important that we not let little things get in the way of people coming together in meditation and enlightenment. -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: During my time at MIU/MUM, the question came up in private conversations. Open discussion about homosexuality never came up in class; anything controversial was never to be talked about in class. But in private conversation, it was agreed upon by most that homsexuality was bad for evolution, according to Vedic Science. Personally, I don't know of any of the 5 major world religions that don't have a derogatory attitude towards gays/lesbians. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? From: seekliberation seekliberation@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
welcome to gaYogi.org --Namaste, and welcome! This gaYogi site is dedicated to gay men [and our friends] exploring and unfolding what almost everyone feels deep inside There must be more to life, I'm sure of that. I just don't know how to get there. [http://gayogi.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/tr-and-mmy.jpg?w=180h=155] Photo: Celebrating a birthday with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Switzerland, 1979 and further in text: My partner Scott and I are long-time practitioners of the Transcendental Meditation (TM) Program. I studied with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the founder of Transcendental Meditation, starting in 1973 up until 2008 when he passed on. I became a Certified Instructor of TM in 1974 after extensive training, and continued my education with advanced courses in India and Europe over the past few decades. I've taught over 1,000 people to successfully meditate, including volunteer programs across the USA as well as in Sierra Leone and Liberia (West Africa), Iran, India, Thailand and the Philippines. .. Seems to be endorsed or at least accepted by Thomas E. Roth because it says: Please contact me to arrange a free orientation meeting, or for further information. Thomas E. Roth, Director The Transcendental Meditation® Program of San Francisco Maharishi Foundation USA / 501(c)3 Email tr...@tm.org mailto:tr...@tm.org Visit http://www.tm.org/sf http://www.TM.org/sanfrancisco http://gayogi.wordpress.com/2012/01/ http://gayogi.wordpress.com/2012/01/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation wrote: During my time at MIU/MUM, the question came up in private conversations. Open discussion about homosexuality never came up in class; anything controversial was never to be talked about in class. But in private conversation, it was agreed upon by most that homsexuality was bad for evolution, according to Vedic Science. Personally, I don't know of any of the 5 major world religions that don't have a derogatory attitude towards gays/lesbians. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? From: seekliberation seekliberation@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-\ against-164343932.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
Buck I was simply curious as to what the unofficial official position of the TMO was/is about gays - the few I knew at MIU were really afraid of being outed and dismissed from MIU based apparently on treatment and events that had taken place among the TMO in Canada. The people I talked to at the time all said the Movement frowned on gays, thought it made the TMO look bad and that unofficially the Big M was down on homosexuality, so being that there are a lot of old timers here on FFL, I wondered if they knew anything about it. You seem to be afraid that yet another aspect of the seamy underbelly of the movement will come out, you know like the Movement keeping files on meditators in the Fairfield community, eveybody s'posed to be celibate or they won't get enlightened and all the other unofficial official stuff the TMO has always lived by? So I am curious if the TMO has had an unofficial policy of meditation for everyone (but no gays in our Global Country of World Peace, please) or were the gays at MIU just being paranoid? By the way what in the world do you think is revolutionary about Maha saying everyone should meditate? I haven't seen any other meditation teachers saying No, just a few folks should do our meditation. All meditation teachers of all kinds think everyone should meditate. There is not one thing revolutionary about that - besides everyone doing TM would have been good for Maha's bank account. No surprise there. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:00 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity You know, the extraordinarily revolutionary thing about Maharishi's teaching is that it says that everyone should meditate. Not just should but must for very sound scientific reasons. Meditation for all Regardless of politics, gender roles, even sexual orientation that this meditation and the science of meditation is the essential ingredient for all humanity moving progressively forward in their birthright. Even tea-party nuts, vegans, omnivores, atheists, Republicans and Islamicists. It is important that we not let little things get in the way of people coming together in meditation and enlightenment. -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: During my time at MIU/MUM, the question came up in private conversations. Open discussion about homosexuality never came up in class; anything controversial was never to be talked about in class. But in private conversation, it was agreed upon by most that homsexuality was bad for evolution, according to Vedic Science. Personally, I don't know of any of the 5 major world religions that don't have a derogatory attitude towards gays/lesbians. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? From: seekliberation seekliberation@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies
...and Deepak the Chopra was a physician during American Revolution and a very close friend of John and Abigail Adams. [;)] [http://www.iisis.net/uploads/images/1%20Ryerson%20Semkiw/RS%20Spiritual\ /2%20Warren%20Chopra.jpg] To your question about Roth/Paine see chapter 19 Unfortunately it remains completely stuck in the physical reality of reincarnation, without ever even entertaining for the moment other possibilities...IMHO --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Oy, my memory is definitely flawed, angelic or not (-: yep, that's the one I was thinking of, thanks for having an unflawed memory. Also angelic perhaps? Well the resemblance is pretty cool I think. What a funny old world...How about Roth and Paine? From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies  Hi my dear Christmas Angel...and that John Hagelin was the reincarnation of James Otis, a Boston lawyer who was considered to be a genius, who helped spark the revolutionary movement by taking the British to court regarding the Writs of Assistance, an illegal search and seizure law? Return of the Revolutionaries: The Case for Reincarnation and Soul Groups ...  By Walter Semkiw may be? http://tinyurl.com/cvd5vhm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Buck, do you remember the author and or book wherein Hagelin was supposedly John Adams reincarnated and Bob Roth was Thomas Paine? From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 9:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies àCasting John Hagelin as George Washington would be really good. And our Turqb as the Prince Juda Ben Hur. Great Christmas. -Buck Hope to get to The Crossing before the day is over. One of the Best Christmas stories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wpC8w0_k34 Ben Hur We started with Ben Hur X-mas eve... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSDXrDQEDjg Ben Hur meets Jesus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LHWyaeEHY
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? Marshy apparently thought that homosexuality wouldn't happen in the AofE. Obviously then he saw it as violation of natural law but one that individuals can't help, it's just a yuga thang. From: seekliberation seekliberation@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
Even tho I am not a fan of the TMO I think this is pretty cool - I saw the earlier posts about gays and it brought that episode at MIU back to my mind so I was just asking if any old timers remembered anything about it. The reason I even head about any TM gay prejudice at the time was I had the hots for a raven haired French Canadian gal who didn't give a crap about me except to cry on my shoulder when her life wasn't going well. She was in love with this English Canadian who didn't seem interested in her but she goddamn well set her cap for him and pursued him and pursued him and pursued him relentlessly until finally told her he couldn't go out with her cause he was gay. She came to my pod room one night in tears right after he told her and she didn't know WHAT she was gonna do since she was convinced they were soul mates (based on the fact that he had nearly all the qualities on the list she had made of her ideal man - I kid you not.) So then she told him she had told me that he was gay and he got upset so I talked to him and said Look man I'm not gonna tell anyone, its your private business. But what's the big deal anyway? This is MIU we all just meditate. We are all equal here. So he proceeded to tell me stories of prejudice against gays in the Canadian TMO. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity welcome to gaYogi.org --Namaste, and welcome! ThisgaYogi site is dedicated to gay men [and our friends] exploring and unfolding what almost everyone feels deep inside… There must be more to life, I'm sure of that. I just don't know how to get there. Photo: Celebrating a birthday with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Switzerland, 1979 and further in text: My partner Scott and I are long-time practitioners of the Transcendental Meditation (TM) Program. I studied with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the founder of Transcendental Meditation, starting in 1973 up until 2008 when he passed on. I became a Certified Instructor of TM in 1974 after extensive training, and continued my education with advanced courses in India and Europe over the past few decades. I've taught over 1,000 people to successfully meditate, including volunteer programs across the USA as well as in Sierra Leone and Liberia (West Africa), Iran, India, Thailand and the Philippines. .. Seems to be endorsed or at least accepted by Thomas E. Roth because it says: Please contact me to arrange a free orientation meeting, or for further information. Thomas E. Roth, Director The Transcendental Meditation® Program of San Francisco Maharishi Foundation USA / 501(c)3 Email tr...@tm.org Visit http://www.tm.org/sf http://gayogi.wordpress.com/2012/01/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation wrote: During my time at MIU/MUM, the question came up in private conversations. Open discussion about homosexuality never came up in class; anything controversial was never to be talked about in class. But in private conversation, it was agreed upon by most that homsexuality was bad for evolution, according to Vedic Science. Personally, I don't know of any of the 5 major world religions that don't have a derogatory attitude towards gays/lesbians. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? From: seekliberation seekliberation@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Maybe what's happening is some projecting of human qualities onto God? I thought doing TM was practicing all 8 limbs at once. Does it say that in back of Science of Being? Would limbless yoga be faster? From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 7:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] How long will it take to reach CC-MMY  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiTzu_SxTis I seem to recall MMY saying that in about 5 years one would develop 'quite a lot of cosmic consciousness'. Regarding the MMY video, the sage Nisargadatta, 1897-1981, is reputed have have experienced full realisation (i.e. unity) in less than three years. And he 1. Was married and had a daughter. 2. Owned eight tobacco stores. 3. Smoked cigarettes all his life. 4. Ate meat. I think you need to practice ALL eight limbs of YOGA, Yes? MMY says all eight limbs MUST be practiced simultaneously, Charlie used to say, 7 lifetimes. MMY/Gita Why is God a *jealous* God? Because unless you put HIM first, he will not come! Here is what Mark Twain said about the god of the Torah (or Old Testament from the Christian perspective): Jealousy. Do not forget it, keep it in mind. It is the key. With it you will come to partly understand God as we go along; without it nobody can understand him. As I have said, he has openly held up this treasonous key himself, for all to see. He says, naïvely, outspokenly, and without suggestion of embarrassment: I the Lord thy God am a jealous God. You see, it is only another way of saying, I the Lord thy God am a small God; a small God, and fretful about small things. He was giving a warning: he could not bear the thought of any other God getting some of the Sunday compliments of this comical little human race -- he wanted all of them for himself. He valued them. To him they were riches; just as tin money is to a Zulu. But wait -- I am not fair; I am misrepresenting him; prejudice is beguiling me into saying what is not true. He did not say he wanted all of the adulations; he said nothing about not being willing to share them with his fellow gods; what he said was, Thou shalt have no other gods before me. It is a quite different thing, and puts him in a much better light -- I confess it. There was an abundance of gods, the woods were full of them, as the saying is, and all he demanded was that he should be ranked as high as the others -- not above any of them, but not below any of them. He was willing that they should fertilize earthly virgins, but not on any better terms than he could have for himself in his turn. He wanted to be held their equal. This he insisted upon, in the clearest language: he would have no other gods before him. They could march abreast with him, but none of them could head the procession, and he did not claim the right to head it himself ...Do you think he was able to stick to that upright and creditable position? No. He could keep to a bad resolution forever, but he couldn't keep to a good one a month. By and by he threw aside and calmly claimed to be the only God in the entire universe. There is a hand-written note Twain inscribed in a copy of one of his books: All gods are better than their reputation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers?
Posts like this, bring logic to the clarity achieved in taking time to sit and meditate. :) Thank you michael jackson. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: From my point of view, if the so called yogic flying was a effective as claimed, you would see the greatest effect at the epicenter, meaning closest to the flying group - this should mean over the years extraordinary results in Fairfield and Jefferson County or even all of Iowa - but it hasn't EVER happened. The TMO says that it has effects all over America but things stay the same in the local area? TMO has consistently said Ah, we had a great effect cause we said we had a great effect, believe us when we say we have a great effect and keep sending money so we can continue to have the grand effect that we say we are having. There is another post here on FFL talking about the grand effect of the MExican group that refers to how well the government organized the event, how they brought the buses in on time - WTF!! If the Mexican government organized the event, why did the TMO ask for donations to pay for having everyone bused??? With or without a tinfoil hat, I can see these guys are wanting to continue to ride the gravy train - I look forward to the day that Tony, Bevan and all the rest are exposed for the frauds they are, the TMO folds, Marshys nevvies in India raid all the Movements assets leaving the TMO in ashes and Bevan and the boys have to make a living for themselves washing dishes or some other menial labor job, worrying how to pay the rent and utilities like the rest of us instead of living off the fat of the land in a global ashram paid for by others. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers? Â Merry Christmas, MJ! ...wait, lemme secure the hat au foil de tin, prior to responding with substance...ok, set: Yeah, it is tough to prove a negative. On the background of an always difficult world, how do you show evidence that something even worse didn't happen? As the French would say, impossible. lol Over the last 60 years, there has been a lot of progress and a lot of conflict. Who to assign praise/blame to? I like the overall trend that more people are empowered to do what they want to, globally, even though it results these days in some terrific violence. Along with the potential for chaos, though, pervasive local, national, and global, communication, is also making it difficult to maintain the obsolete power structures of the past - e.g. the last US election secured, because of a YouTube video revealing the true nature of the loser. And secrets of any kind have become impossible to keep (WikiLeaks). How porous everything has become. Is it the much vaunted Age of Enlightenment? Pretty obviously not, though now that things are breaking loose, in flux and in motion, we have half a chance in hell of getting there. :-) ok, hat back on wig stand... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I cannot dispute the numbers of flyers in India or Mexico cuz I am not there - I wish with all my heart the things you say would have been or even would be true, but the state of the world as it is is proof enough for me that the effect of both group practice of TM and the yogic flying has been an utter failure, not because of lack of numbers but simply because the stated effects just aren't there - nearly 60 years is more than enough time for proof to surface - it is all still just a promise of futures and I wouldn't buy them from the TMO anymore than I would Bernie Madoff - but it woulda been nice if it hadda been true From: srijau@ srijau@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers? ÃÂ There are more than tens of thousands of students and pundits in India and you will have no problem with the independent confirmation of that, indeed the problems of the largest private educator in India and the legal disputes over the land assets for future Pundit campuses have been raised in Parliament; as well the extraordinary successes are everyday in the Indian press for all to see as Maharishi Vidya Mandir students are constantly in or at the top of educational competitions all the time. Yes there was some money 'wasted by Maharishi's way of dealing with the corruption of the permit authorities in India by presenting them with a fait accompli instead of going along with institutionalized bribery, but all kinds of financial
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? Funny, half my friends at MIU in the 1980's were gay, more men than women, and no one ever seemed that interested in hiding that fact nor was I ever under the impression that it would have ever been an issue at the school. If it had, our class would have been severely decimated after the expulsions! From: seekliberation seekliberation@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero Homosexuals are much too busy being fabulous to commit any crimes, sweetie. I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. You're late to the party, Steve. 1980 DSM-III creates a new class, the psychosexual disorders, including psychosexual dysfunction, paraphilia (fetishism), gender identity disorder (transsexualism), and ego-dystonic homosexuality 1987 DSM-III-Revised deletes the diagnosis of homosexuality entirely, leaving the paraphilias and sexual dysfunctions as the two main classes of sexual disorders http://www.aglp.org/gap/ Folks who believe homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural also believe Jesus walked the earth among the dinosaurs. Fortunately, they aren't stupid enough to believe homosexuals are destroying humanity because that would be reeealy stooopid. http://www.disbeliefnet.com/article.php?page=the_deity_and_the_dinosaur seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers?
I admit it was inspired - it came to me in meditation, so you are welcome. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers? Posts like this, bring logic to the clarity achieved in taking time to sit and meditate. :) Thank you michael jackson. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: From my point of view, if the so called yogic flying was a effective as claimed, you would see the greatest effect at the epicenter, meaning closest to the flying group - this should mean over the years extraordinary results in Fairfield and Jefferson County or even all of Iowa - but it hasn't EVER happened. The TMO says that it has effects all over America but things stay the same in the local area? TMO has consistently said Ah, we had a great effect cause we said we had a great effect, believe us when we say we have a great effect and keep sending money so we can continue to have the grand effect that we say we are having. There is another post here on FFL talking about the grand effect of the MExican group that refers to how well the government organized the event, how they brought the buses in on time - WTF!! If the Mexican government organized the event, why did the TMO ask for donations to pay for having everyone bused??? With or without a tinfoil hat, I can see these guys are wanting to continue to ride the gravy train - I look forward to the day that Tony, Bevan and all the rest are exposed for the frauds they are, the TMO folds, Marshys nevvies in India raid all the Movements assets leaving the TMO in ashes and Bevan and the boys have to make a living for themselves washing dishes or some other menial labor job, worrying how to pay the rent and utilities like the rest of us instead of living off the fat of the land in a global ashram paid for by others. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers?  Merry Christmas, MJ! ...wait, lemme secure the hat au foil de tin, prior to responding with substance...ok, set: Yeah, it is tough to prove a negative. On the background of an always difficult world, how do you show evidence that something even worse didn't happen? As the French would say, impossible. lol Over the last 60 years, there has been a lot of progress and a lot of conflict. Who to assign praise/blame to? I like the overall trend that more people are empowered to do what they want to, globally, even though it results these days in some terrific violence. Along with the potential for chaos, though, pervasive local, national, and global, communication, is also making it difficult to maintain the obsolete power structures of the past - e.g. the last US election secured, because of a YouTube video revealing the true nature of the loser. And secrets of any kind have become impossible to keep (WikiLeaks). How porous everything has become. Is it the much vaunted Age of Enlightenment? Pretty obviously not, though now that things are breaking loose, in flux and in motion, we have half a chance in hell of getting there. :-) ok, hat back on wig stand... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I cannot dispute the numbers of flyers in India or Mexico cuz I am not there - I wish with all my heart the things you say would have been or even would be true, but the state of the world as it is is proof enough for me that the effect of both group practice of TM and the yogic flying has been an utter failure, not because of lack of numbers but simply because the stated effects just aren't there - nearly 60 years is more than enough time for proof to surface - it is all still just a promise of futures and I wouldn't buy them from the TMO anymore than I would Bernie Madoff - but it woulda been nice if it hadda been true From: srijau@ srijau@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers?  There are more than tens of thousands of students and pundits in India and you will have no problem with the independent confirmation of that, indeed the problems of the largest private educator in India and the legal disputes over the land assets for future Pundit campuses have been raised in Parliament; as well the extraordinary successes are everyday in the Indian press for all to see as Maharishi Vidya Mandir students are
[FairfieldLife] Re: China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: I get the impression that lots of Chinese people live quite dharmic lives. I think that would give support of Nature. Hi Share, I don't understand what you mean here. What is a 'dharmic life', what gives you that impression and how does support of nature result, what form would it take (a high speed railway)? From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World  This is an amazing accomplishment of their communist government. As such, we wonder how were they able to get the support of Nature to complete this herculean task. http://origin-www.livemint.com/Politics/5jyJk7Ekgfz4jEiQjoi60L/China-to-open-worlds-longest-highspeed-rail-line.html?facet=print
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers?
Yes. It kind of like one imagines one's desires. Then when something makes it possible to have a clearer mind, some try to harness it into a money pit.. a romantic money pit with crowns of glory and amrits on every vastu... sort of like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=sKns1uatyNgvq=medium --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I admit it was inspired - it came to me in meditation, so you are welcome. Â From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers? Â Posts like this, bring logic to the clarity achieved in taking time to sit and meditate. :) Thank you michael jackson. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: From my point of view, if the so called yogic flying was a effective as claimed, you would see the greatest effect at the epicenter, meaning closest to the flying group - this should mean over the years extraordinary results in Fairfield and Jefferson County or even all of Iowa - but it hasn't EVER happened. The TMO says that it has effects all over America but things stay the same in the local area? TMO has consistently said Ah, we had a great effect cause we said we had a great effect, believe us when we say we have a great effect and keep sending money so we can continue to have the grand effect that we say we are having. There is another post here on FFL talking about the grand effect of the MExican group that refers to how well the government organized the event, how they brought the buses in on time - WTF!! If the Mexican government organized the event, why did the TMO ask for donations to pay for having everyone bused??? With or without a tinfoil hat, I can see these guys are wanting to continue to ride the gravy train - I look forward to the day that Tony, Bevan and all the rest are exposed for the frauds they are, the TMO folds, Marshys nevvies in India raid all the Movements assets leaving the TMO in ashes and Bevan and the boys have to make a living for themselves washing dishes or some other menial labor job, worrying how to pay the rent and utilities like the rest of us instead of living off the fat of the land in a global ashram paid for by others. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers? ÃÂ Merry Christmas, MJ! ...wait, lemme secure the hat au foil de tin, prior to responding with substance...ok, set: Yeah, it is tough to prove a negative. On the background of an always difficult world, how do you show evidence that something even worse didn't happen? As the French would say, impossible. lol Over the last 60 years, there has been a lot of progress and a lot of conflict. Who to assign praise/blame to? I like the overall trend that more people are empowered to do what they want to, globally, even though it results these days in some terrific violence. Along with the potential for chaos, though, pervasive local, national, and global, communication, is also making it difficult to maintain the obsolete power structures of the past - e.g. the last US election secured, because of a YouTube video revealing the true nature of the loser. And secrets of any kind have become impossible to keep (WikiLeaks). How porous everything has become. Is it the much vaunted Age of Enlightenment? Pretty obviously not, though now that things are breaking loose, in flux and in motion, we have half a chance in hell of getting there. :-) ok, hat back on wig stand... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I cannot dispute the numbers of flyers in India or Mexico cuz I am not there - I wish with all my heart the things you say would have been or even would be true, but the state of the world as it is is proof enough for me that the effect of both group practice of TM and the yogic flying has been an utter failure, not because of lack of numbers but simply because the stated effects just aren't there - nearly 60 years is more than enough time for proof to surface - it is all still just a promise of futures and I wouldn't buy them from the TMO anymore than I would Bernie Madoff - but it woulda been nice if it hadda been true From: srijau@ srijau@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Even tho I am not a fan of the TMO I think this is pretty cool - I saw the earlier posts about gays and it brought that episode at MIU back to my mind so I was just asking if any old timers remembered anything about it. The reason I even head about any TM gay prejudice at the time was I had the hots for a raven haired French Canadian gal who didn't give a crap about me except to cry on my shoulder when her life wasn't going well. She was in love with this English Canadian who didn't seem interested in her but she goddamn well set her cap for him and pursued him and pursued him and pursued him relentlessly until finally told her he couldn't go out with her cause he was gay. She came to my pod room one night in tears right after he told her and she didn't know WHAT she was gonna do since she was convinced they were soul mates (based on the fact that he had nearly all the qualities on the list she had made of her ideal man - I kid you not.) I was at MIU from 1975-1980 and then in FF again in 1982. When exactly were you there? I think I know both of the people you are talking about. Was that Canadian girl's name Rhona? (I think it was or maybe my memory is hooped on that one, she was very attractive and lived in my pod.) So then she told him she had told me that he was gay and he got upset so I talked to him and said Look man I'm not gonna tell anyone, its your private business. But what's the big deal anyway? This is MIU we all just meditate. We are all equal here. So he proceeded to tell me stories of prejudice against gays in the Canadian TMO. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  welcome to gaYogi.org --Namaste, and welcome! ThisgaYogi site is dedicated to gay men [and our friends] exploring and unfolding what almost everyone feels deep inside⦠There must be more to life, I'm sure of that. I just don't know how to get there. Photo: Celebrating a birthday with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Switzerland, 1979 and further in text: My partner Scott and I are long-time practitioners of the Transcendental Meditation (TM) Program. I studied with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the founder of Transcendental Meditation, starting in 1973 up until 2008 when he passed on. I became a Certified Instructor of TM in 1974 after extensive training, and continued my education with advanced courses in India and Europe over the past few decades. I've taught over 1,000 people to successfully meditate, including volunteer programs across the USA as well as in Sierra Leone and Liberia (West Africa), Iran, India, Thailand and the Philippines. .. Seems to be endorsed or at least accepted by Thomas E. Roth because it says: Please contact me to arrange a free orientation meeting, or for further information. Thomas E. Roth, Director The Transcendental Meditation® Program of San Francisco Maharishi Foundation USA / 501(c)3 Email TRoth@... Visit http://www.tm.org/sf http://gayogi.wordpress.com/2012/01/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation wrote: During my time at MIU/MUM, the question came up in private conversations. Open discussion about homosexuality never came up in class; anything controversial was never to be talked about in class. But in private conversation, it was agreed upon by most that homsexuality was bad for evolution, according to Vedic Science. Personally, I don't know of any of the 5 major world religions that don't have a derogatory attitude towards gays/lesbians. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? From: seekliberation seekliberation@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity àI often wonder if these people who claim
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
Cool - I am glad to know it - I guess the fellow and his friends from Canada were just paranoid or maybe the Canadian TMO had some homophobes running things for a while - dunno From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? Funny, half my friends at MIU in the 1980's were gay, more men than women, and no one ever seemed that interested in hiding that fact nor was I ever under the impression that it would have ever been an issue at the school. If it had, our class would have been severely decimated after the expulsions! From: seekliberation seekliberation@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
I was there 85 - 87 - both the people I referred to came at about the same time - I don't think they had been there prior to 1985 From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Even tho I am not a fan of the TMO I think this is pretty cool - I saw the earlier posts about gays and it brought that episode at MIU back to my mind so I was just asking if any old timers remembered anything about it. The reason I even head about any TM gay prejudice at the time was I had the hots for a raven haired French Canadian gal who didn't give a crap about me except to cry on my shoulder when her life wasn't going well. She was in love with this English Canadian who didn't seem interested in her but she goddamn well set her cap for him and pursued him and pursued him and pursued him relentlessly until finally told her he couldn't go out with her cause he was gay. She came to my pod room one night in tears right after he told her and she didn't know WHAT she was gonna do since she was convinced they were soul mates (based on the fact that he had nearly all the qualities on the list she had made of her ideal man - I kid you not.) I was at MIU from 1975-1980 and then in FF again in 1982. When exactly were you there? I think I know both of the people you are talking about. Was that Canadian girl's name Rhona? (I think it was or maybe my memory is hooped on that one, she was very attractive and lived in my pod.) So then she told him she had told me that he was gay and he got upset so I talked to him and said Look man I'm not gonna tell anyone, its your private business. But what's the big deal anyway? This is MIU we all just meditate. We are all equal here. So he proceeded to tell me stories of prejudice against gays in the Canadian TMO. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  welcome to gaYogi.org --Namaste, and welcome! ThisgaYogi site is dedicated to gay men [and our friends] exploring and unfolding what almost everyone feels deep inside… There must be more to life, I'm sure of that. I just don't know how to get there. Photo: Celebrating a birthday with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Switzerland, 1979 and further in text: My partner Scott and I are long-time practitioners of the Transcendental Meditation (TM) Program. I studied with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the founder of Transcendental Meditation, starting in 1973 up until 2008 when he passed on. I became a Certified Instructor of TM in 1974 after extensive training, and continued my education with advanced courses in India and Europe over the past few decades. I've taught over 1,000 people to successfully meditate, including volunteer programs across the USA as well as in Sierra Leone and Liberia (West Africa), Iran, India, Thailand and the Philippines. .. Seems to be endorsed or at least accepted by Thomas E. Roth because it says: Please contact me to arrange a free orientation meeting, or for further information. Thomas E. Roth, Director The Transcendental Meditation® Program of San Francisco Maharishi Foundation USA / 501(c)3 Email TRoth@... Visit http://www.tm.org/sf http://gayogi.wordpress.com/2012/01/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation wrote: During my time at MIU/MUM, the question came up in private conversations. Open discussion about homosexuality never came up in class; anything controversial was never to be talked about in class. But in private conversation, it was agreed upon by most that homsexuality was bad for evolution, according to Vedic Science. Personally, I don't know of any of the 5 major world religions that don't have a derogatory attitude towards gays/lesbians. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the
[FairfieldLife] Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
Dear FFL moderators, would you please go in and excise this post (330685) from the FFL archive. The writer had no business using someone's private name in a post like this here. Had the writer had more sense she certainly could have discreetly sent an iquiry directly to Jack and not outed the person publicly on an internet forum. This is extremely bad form. Git rid of the post and the ban the author for complete breach of guideline. This is extremely bad. Thank you, -Buck http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330685
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Buck, do you remember the author and or book wherein Hagelin was supposedly John Adams reincarnated and Bob Roth was Thomas Paine? No, but I remember the book that portrayed Maharishi as the reincarnation of Santa Claus and Bevan as Rudolph, until he got so fat he couldn't fly any more and they had to use his nose as a night light in Santa's house.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
A friend of mine got kicked off campus in the 80’s (expelled – he was a student) because he was openly, somewhat flagrantly gay. These days he’s in the good graces of the movement and doing a lot to help in various ways. Charlie Lutes used to claim that Maharishi had made dire predictions about the fate of gay people, such as “it would be better had they never been born”. I don’t know much more than that. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Jackson Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:40 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? _ From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com mailto:seekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , John jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
Folks who believe homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural also believe Jesus walked the earth among the dinosaurs. That's not true. I have no beliefs about Jesus being with dinosaurs or anything similar to that. I just simply believe that sex with anything other than the opposite sex of your own species is pretty much a perversion. When I say perversion, I don't mean in a negative way, I just mean unnatural. It seems obvious, at least to me, that the penis fits in the vagina, and there seems to be a reason for this: procreation. Now, do I think it's a bad thing if someone wants to do something different with their sexual organslet's say have sex with something other than the opposite sex, or with an object or another species? No...there are much worse things going on in this world and much, much worse unnatural acts going on (murder, theft, rape, Justin Beiber, etc...). But if you're saying someone is stupid for thinking that homosexuality is unnatural, then that implies you think it is natural. The justification is that some people are simply 'born that way'. Well then, that simply means that everything everyone has ever done is natural, and there is no such thing as unnatural. When I was a kid, I knew deep down inside I didn't want to work for money. So I snuck into my parent's bedroom looking for loose change to go play video games with. So, my desire to steal was natural because I was 'born that way'. Ted Bundy felt deep inside that he wanted to kill people. It was a rage he was born with. So killing people is natural because some people are 'born that way'. I'm not associating homosexuality with murder, i'm just having a hard time understanding why people think homosexuality is 'natural'. Just because someone is born a certain way doesn't mean the way they are born is 'natural'. Is ADD/ADHD natural? Are saimese twins natural? Is Schizophrenia and Manic Depression natural? No, they aren't natural, but some people are born with these issues. Just because we're born a certain way doesn't automatically mean that what impulses we have when we're born are 'natural'. In no way am I saying homosexuality is bad or wrong in an evil or immoral sense. I'm just saying that from my perception it is a deviation from what is natural. I have a lot of personal habits myself that are unnatural, and I wouldn't be offended one bit if they were labeled as such. Besides.and trust me on this one, I wish I wasn't attracted to women. It's a curse I have to live with until my dying day. I envy men that get to spend a lifetime with another man. Could you imagine the ease of that relationship? Instead, I have to spend the rest of my life getting yelled at for not putting the toilet seat down, purchasing expensive jewelry, explaining why I have to go to work, getting yelled at for fingerprints on the stainless steel appliances, every time i'm playing a video game I catch hell, I have to deal with a mountain of pillows on the bed that serve no purpose, etc... Fortunately, they aren't stupid enough to believe homosexuals are destroying humanity because that would be reeealy stooopid. I'm in 100% agreement with you on that one, IT WOULD be reeeally stpid. seekliberation http://www.disbeliefnet.com/article.php?page=the_deity_and_the_dinosaur seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Dear FFL moderators, would you please go in and excise this post (330685) from the FFL archive. The writer had no business using someone's private name in a post like this here. Had the writer had more sense she certainly could have discreetly sent an iquiry directly to Jack and not outed the person publicly on an internet forum. This is extremely bad form. Git rid of the post and the ban the author for complete breach of guideline. This is extremely bad. Thank you, -Buck You idiot Bucko, what did you think I said she was gay? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330685
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
I read the post after seeing his proposal of exiling you from FFL. I can't figure out for the life of me what was wrong with that post. But then I realized from my impression of Buck's past posts that he is a TB, and he is fully dedicated to diving in the transcendent realm of consciousness and aligning himself with natural law. Therefore, his words, actions, and decisions are all in tune with the Unified Field, whereas you and I are are not as in tune with the Unified Field, and therefore we are supporting ignorance in this world with our posts. Therefore, out of dedication to enlightenment and eliminating ignorance, out of respect for the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature, I concede to Buck's decision to exile Ann from FFL. I also propose that I am exiled from FFL too, being as I am not as 'in tune' with the Unified Field. Every post from myself and Ann will only act as a Rakshasha to the divine efforts of those dedicated to living in accordance with natural law. Please, exile us Rakshashas. We are not in tune with natural law, and therefore we are prone to making mistakes. And moreover, our presence on FFL interferes with Buck's efforts to create heaven on earth, a truly divine and noble cause. Every post we submit interferes with the divine waves of natural law that will eliminate ignorance, hunger, war, and suffering for eternity. As long as Ann and I are posting on FFL, we are holding humanity back. The fate of the world lies upon this decision. We don't have any time left. We are the most important generation of all generations of all time in the history of all worlds and all civilizations since the beginning of time. If we don't act now and remove Ann and I from FFL, all will be lost. The divine perfection of Buck, the TMO, and MMY will not eliminate negativity for all of eternity if we waste any time. We must act now. Remove awoelflebater and seekliberation now. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: You idiot Bucko, what did you think I said she was gay? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330685
[FairfieldLife] Re: China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World
Share, I'm tending to think that money and the profit motive were responsible for the completion of this project. This is very extraordinary in that a communist nation is not supposed to be motivated by such bourgeois incentives. Nonetheless, the support of Nature can come in mysterious ways. Maybe there is such a thing as cultural or ancestral karma which is responsible for this feat. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: I get the impression that lots of Chinese people live quite dharmic lives. I think that would give support of Nature. From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World  This is an amazing accomplishment of their communist government. As such, we wonder how were they able to get the support of Nature to complete this herculean task. http://origin-www.livemint.com/Politics/5jyJk7Ekgfz4jEiQjoi60L/China-to-open-worlds-longest-highspeed-rail-line.html?facet=print
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
You mean there are so many gay people in Europe that they're birth rates are dropping? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , seekliberation seekliberation@... mailto:seekliberation@... wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-agai nst-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I read the post after seeing his proposal of exiling you from FFL. I can't figure out for the life of me what was wrong with that post. But then I realized from my impression of Buck's past posts that he is a TB, and he is fully dedicated to diving in the transcendent realm of consciousness and aligning himself with natural law. Therefore, his words, actions, and decisions are all in tune with the Unified Field, whereas you and I are are not as in tune with the Unified Field, and therefore we are supporting ignorance in this world with our posts. Therefore, out of dedication to enlightenment and eliminating ignorance, out of respect for the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature, I concede to Buck's decision to exile Ann from FFL. I also propose that I am exiled from FFL too, being as I am not as 'in tune' with the Unified Field. Every post from myself and Ann will only act as a Rakshasha to the divine efforts of those dedicated to living in accordance with natural law. Please, exile us Rakshashas. We are not in tune with natural law, and therefore we are prone to making mistakes. And moreover, our presence on FFL interferes with Buck's efforts to create heaven on earth, a truly divine and noble cause. Every post we submit interferes with the divine waves of natural law that will eliminate ignorance, hunger, war, and suffering for eternity. As long as Ann and I are posting on FFL, we are holding humanity back. The fate of the world lies upon this decision. We don't have any time left. We are the most important generation of all generations of all time in the history of all worlds and all civilizations since the beginning of time. If we don't act now and remove Ann and I from FFL, all will be lost. The divine perfection of Buck, the TMO, and MMY will not eliminate negativity for all of eternity if we waste any time. We must act now. Remove awoelflebater and seekliberation now. Amen to that seekliberation. And while we're at it you seemed to have achieved your goal: you found liberation and I am joining you! seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: You idiot Bucko, what did you think I said she was gay? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330685
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
There are lots of gay people in the arts so the idea that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Create Intelligence is ridiculous. And what about people like Alan Turing? You might not be looking at FFL if not for him. On 12/26/2012 09:27 AM, John wrote: Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators et al ... pls. sanction Bucko
Seek Yer such a bodhisattva ... immolating yerself to protest injustice. You musta been a Tibetan last lifetime. I have a better proposal. Immolate Bucko. Buck has abused this forum endlessly by repeatedly posting senseless, single word posts designed by his warped TB mind to waste our forum's time and place. This is clearly an attack against everyone here, even god- who definitely isn't here. (Old god may be all-present but he/she/they/it most surely ain't present on FFL.) Please sever Bucko from FFL and the absent god for at least the rest of the week. He hates us and we love him, which proves we're the only gods to be known here. This punishment will teach him a lesson fer sure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation wrote: I read the post after seeing his proposal of exiling you from FFL. I can't figure out for the life of me what was wrong with that post. But then I realized from my impression of Buck's past posts that he is a TB, and he is fully dedicated to diving in the transcendent realm of consciousness and aligning himself with natural law. Therefore, his words, actions, and decisions are all in tune with the Unified Field, whereas you and I are are not as in tune with the Unified Field, and therefore we are supporting ignorance in this world with our posts. Therefore, out of dedication to enlightenment and eliminating ignorance, out of respect for the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature, I concede to Buck's decision to exile Ann from FFL. I also propose that I am exiled from FFL too, being as I am not as 'in tune' with the Unified Field. Every post from myself and Ann will only act as a Rakshasha to the divine efforts of those dedicated to living in accordance with natural law. Please, exile us Rakshashas. We are not in tune with natural law, and therefore we are prone to making mistakes. And moreover, our presence on FFL interferes with Buck's efforts to create heaven on earth, a truly divine and noble cause. Every post we submit interferes with the divine waves of natural law that will eliminate ignorance, hunger, war, and suffering for eternity. As long as Ann and I are posting on FFL, we are holding humanity back. The fate of the world lies upon this decision. We don't have any time left. We are the most important generation of all generations of all time in the history of all worlds and all civilizations since the beginning of time. If we don't act now and remove Ann and I from FFL, all will be lost. The divine perfection of Buck, the TMO, and MMY will not eliminate negativity for all of eternity if we waste any time. We must act now. Remove awoelflebater and seekliberation now. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: You idiot Bucko, what did you think I said she was gay? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330685
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Dear FFL moderators, would you please go in and excise this post (330685) from the FFL archive. The writer had no business using someone's private name in a post like this here. Buck, the rule on FFL refers to using the real identity of FFL participants who post anonymously. Post 330685 does not fall under that rule.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers?
Yeah, the story that TM or TMSP automatically results in benefits is sort of a fake-out. I found this out by taking the practice at its word, so to speak, for years. And yet, it wasn't until later, when I did the hard work of examining what was being revealed to me, through meditation and the siddhis, that I began to integrate the benefits and really understand where the practices and results fit into my life. So for a long time it hasn't been the story of the TMO or the beliefs in this or that, for me. After enough years I built up enough spiritual momentum so that the path became mine, alone. I continue to compare my experiences against that which I was told, or a particular framework or template I have come across (e.g. MMY's 7 SOC or the Kundalini Chakras). Unlike the past in which this would bring conflict as I was less sure of my self, now it brings clarity, as I am able to see my ongoing truth, as revealed by my experience, vs. whatever any spiritual master or text says. Regarding the TMO, Bevan all of those people - just let them all go, and find your own truth, beyond any of it. As for their day of reckoning, dharmic balance, it is always inevitable with all of us, whether we are there to personally witness it of another. We all have to play by the same rules, even those who attempt to set themselves above the rules, for a little while.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: From my point of view, if the so called yogic flying was a effective as claimed, you would see the greatest effect at the epicenter, meaning closest to the flying group - this should mean over the years extraordinary results in Fairfield and Jefferson County or even all of Iowa - but it hasn't EVER happened. The TMO says that it has effects all over America but things stay the same in the local area? TMO has consistently said Ah, we had a great effect cause we said we had a great effect, believe us when we say we have a great effect and keep sending money so we can continue to have the grand effect that we say we are having. There is another post here on FFL talking about the grand effect of the MExican group that refers to how well the government organized the event, how they brought the buses in on time - WTF!! If the Mexican government organized the event, why did the TMO ask for donations to pay for having everyone bused??? With or without a tinfoil hat, I can see these guys are wanting to continue to ride the gravy train - I look forward to the day that Tony, Bevan and all the rest are exposed for the frauds they are, the TMO folds, Marshys nevvies in India raid all the Movements assets leaving the TMO in ashes and Bevan and the boys have to make a living for themselves washing dishes or some other menial labor job, worrying how to pay the rent and utilities like the rest of us instead of living off the fat of the land in a global ashram paid for by others. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers? Â Merry Christmas, MJ! ...wait, lemme secure the hat au foil de tin, prior to responding with substance...ok, set: Yeah, it is tough to prove a negative. On the background of an always difficult world, how do you show evidence that something even worse didn't happen? As the French would say, impossible. lol Over the last 60 years, there has been a lot of progress and a lot of conflict. Who to assign praise/blame to? I like the overall trend that more people are empowered to do what they want to, globally, even though it results these days in some terrific violence. Along with the potential for chaos, though, pervasive local, national, and global, communication, is also making it difficult to maintain the obsolete power structures of the past - e.g. the last US election secured, because of a YouTube video revealing the true nature of the loser. And secrets of any kind have become impossible to keep (WikiLeaks). How porous everything has become. Is it the much vaunted Age of Enlightenment? Pretty obviously not, though now that things are breaking loose, in flux and in motion, we have half a chance in hell of getting there. :-) ok, hat back on wig stand... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I cannot dispute the numbers of flyers in India or Mexico cuz I am not there - I wish with all my heart the things you say would have been or even would be true, but the state of the world as it is is proof enough for me that the effect of both group practice of TM and the yogic flying has been an utter failure, not because of lack of numbers but simply because the stated effects just aren't there - nearly 60 years
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
No reason to worry. The muslims will fill all the job slots until there are no longer ordinary Europeans left. What those multi-wife muslims could not accomplish by attacking europe in the middle ages, they will achieve by overtaking the population it in a few more years. Got Koran? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-\ against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, David fiskedavid@ wrote: I am always surprised when I read such rude and discourteous posts here. There must have been something lacking in your upbringing. It is not too late to remedy that. Courtesy is an admirable quality. Then you can add compassion. I am always surprised when people react to perfectly good words as if they were somehow offensive. When it comes to the word moist, that surprise turns to befuddlement. As Barry knows perfectly well, the reaction was to the idea expressed in the post, not to the word itself. I can understand when women overreact to it out of self-gender hatred, Very few women these days react to anything out of self-gender hatred, much as it may satisfy Barry's fear and hatred of women to think so. but guys???!!! Guys who have some sensitivity. Of course that would befuddle Barry. But you're not alone: http://gothamist.com/2012/04/23/extra_extra_2243.php As for wondering whether the word can still apply in any way to someone 70 years old, I kinda think that kind of speculation is warranted, too. :-) You'd never have the chance to find out, but if you did, you might be surprised. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Dear FFL moderators, would you please go in and excise this post (330685) from the FFL archive. The writer had no business using someone's private name in a post like this here. Buck, the rule on FFL refers to using the real identity of FFL participants who post anonymously. Post 330685 does not fall under that rule. I Shall Fight On!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTkuZtlH91s-Buck the Apostle
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: There are lots of gay people in the arts so the idea that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Create Intelligence is ridiculous. And what about people like Alan Turing? You might not be looking at FFL if not for him. I'm thinking/hoping today has been full of ironic posters but if not, hoo boy! And if it wasn't for our wonderful gay population there would virtually BE NO ARTS and a lot less creative and beautiful things on this planet. If that ain't creative intelligence I don't know what is. On 12/26/2012 09:27 AM, John wrote: Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] For the Brit Marling fans
It was a dark and stormy Christmas night. The kind of night to catch up on a couple more movies. One such movie, Arbitrage features Richard Gere, Susan Sarandon, Tim Roth and Brit Marling (Sound of My Voice, Another Earth). Richard Gere plays a billionaire who wants to sell his trading empire but gets in trouble. Marling plays his daughter who is an executive in the company. Marling didn't have to do a lot of research as she has a degree in economics from Georgetown University and may have worked at Goldman-Sachs (IMDB says she turned it down and the film's director claims she did work there briefly). The writer-director Nicholas Jarecki also is no stranger to the world of big finance. Both of his parents were Wall Street traders. His introduction to the world of film was at 16 years old being hired as a consultant on hacking for the movie Hackers. He decided to go into film because he noticed that the director was the center of attention for Angelina Jolie. This is an excellent film and the rental Bluray was complete with commentary (and excellent one BTW) and extras. Rented Silent Night on Vudu and was disappointed that the sound was stereo. I even stopped the film and ran their DD+ demo which accordingly played as it should but not the film. Probably a little to brutal for FFL'ers and a Canadian remake of the 1984 classic. Highlights include Donal Logue as a bad Santa making children cry and probably the most humorous moments of the film. Also stars Malcolm McDowell and Jaime King. A Christmas bonus was Doctor Who: The Snowmen on BBC America. It featured the comely Jenna-Louise Coleman who apparently is going to be Doctor Who's cohort on the coming season. As usual another fun Doctor Who watch.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
SeekLib, I am angry with you for posting this - I hurt my lower back pretty bad 2 days before Christmas and it still hurts like hell - my acupuncturist and chiropractor are both on vacation and when I read this post I laughed so hard it made my back hurt more - damn it no more funny stuff! From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster I read the post after seeing his proposal of exiling you from FFL. I can't figure out for the life of me what was wrong with that post. But then I realized from my impression of Buck's past posts that he is a TB, and he is fully dedicated to diving in the transcendent realm of consciousness and aligning himself with natural law. Therefore, his words, actions, and decisions are all in tune with the Unified Field, whereas you and I are are not as in tune with the Unified Field, and therefore we are supporting ignorance in this world with our posts. Therefore, out of dedication to enlightenment and eliminating ignorance, out of respect for the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature, I concede to Buck's decision to exile Ann from FFL. I also propose that I am exiled from FFL too, being as I am not as 'in tune' with the Unified Field. Every post from myself and Ann will only act as a Rakshasha to the divine efforts of those dedicated to living in accordance with natural law. Please, exile us Rakshashas. We are not in tune with natural law, and therefore we are prone to making mistakes. And moreover, our presence on FFL interferes with Buck's efforts to create heaven on earth, a truly divine and noble cause. Every post we submit interferes with the divine waves of natural law that will eliminate ignorance, hunger, war, and suffering for eternity. As long as Ann and I are posting on FFL, we are holding humanity back. The fate of the world lies upon this decision. We don't have any time left. We are the most important generation of all generations of all time in the history of all worlds and all civilizations since the beginning of time. If we don't act now and remove Ann and I from FFL, all will be lost. The divine perfection of Buck, the TMO, and MMY will not eliminate negativity for all of eternity if we waste any time. We must act now. Remove awoelflebater and seekliberation now. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: You idiot Bucko, what did you think I said she was gay? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330685
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: No, no Bob, this is a distinction you made to me, awhile back, regarding your absolute preference for the *moistness* of a younger woman - someone thirty-ish, was I believe your cut off point. You weren't talking about cake, you were talking about *pussy*. Remember? FWIW, the only post from Bob I can find in the archives that contains the string moist was one in which he attributed a liking for moist young women to Barry. As far as I can tell, Bob never expressed a preference for same himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I've never thought of Judy as a piece of cake; if you're asking me if I admire her, absolutely (I admire everyone with talent). Are roses any less beautiful when they have fully bloomed; I guess it depends on your taste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbMYzdjuBs From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:23:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. The Wife sends her best, and my family wishes you a very Happy Christmas and fantabulous 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWbcosJdtU From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL BOB!!! What a treat you've brought us (including a glimpse of your charming self, even if it's just a quickie). Thank you so much for the video. I won't have time to watch the whole thing until after Christmas (I'm getting ready to go out of town tomorrow), but I took a look at the first few minutes, and I know I'm going to enjoy it a lot. Most cordial wishes to you and The Wife for a superb holiday. You sure have started ours out with a bang. Â Â ÃÂ Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers?
But I'm so very enamored of the TMO in ashes... From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers? Yeah, the story that TM or TMSP automatically results in benefits is sort of a fake-out. I found this out by taking the practice at its word, so to speak, for years. And yet, it wasn't until later, when I did the hard work of examining what was being revealed to me, through meditation and the siddhis, that I began to integrate the benefits and really understand where the practices and results fit into my life. So for a long time it hasn't been the story of the TMO or the beliefs in this or that, for me. After enough years I built up enough spiritual momentum so that the path became mine, alone. I continue to compare my experiences against that which I was told, or a particular framework or template I have come across (e.g. MMY's 7 SOC or the Kundalini Chakras). Unlike the past in which this would bring conflict as I was less sure of my self, now it brings clarity, as I am able to see my ongoing truth, as revealed by my experience, vs. whatever any spiritual master or text says. Regarding the TMO, Bevan all of those people - just let them all go, and find your own truth, beyond any of it. As for their day of reckoning, dharmic balance, it is always inevitable with all of us, whether we are there to personally witness it of another. We all have to play by the same rules, even those who attempt to set themselves above the rules, for a little while.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: From my point of view, if the so called yogic flying was a effective as claimed, you would see the greatest effect at the epicenter, meaning closest to the flying group - this should mean over the years extraordinary results in Fairfield and Jefferson County or even all of Iowa - but it hasn't EVER happened. The TMO says that it has effects all over America but things stay the same in the local area? TMO has consistently said Ah, we had a great effect cause we said we had a great effect, believe us when we say we have a great effect and keep sending money so we can continue to have the grand effect that we say we are having. There is another post here on FFL talking about the grand effect of the MExican group that refers to how well the government organized the event, how they brought the buses in on time - WTF!! If the Mexican government organized the event, why did the TMO ask for donations to pay for having everyone bused??? With or without a tinfoil hat, I can see these guys are wanting to continue to ride the gravy train - I look forward to the day that Tony, Bevan and all the rest are exposed for the frauds they are, the TMO folds, Marshys nevvies in India raid all the Movements assets leaving the TMO in ashes and Bevan and the boys have to make a living for themselves washing dishes or some other menial labor job, worrying how to pay the rent and utilities like the rest of us instead of living off the fat of the land in a global ashram paid for by others. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers? Â Merry Christmas, MJ! ...wait, lemme secure the hat au foil de tin, prior to responding with substance...ok, set: Yeah, it is tough to prove a negative. On the background of an always difficult world, how do you show evidence that something even worse didn't happen? As the French would say, impossible. lol Over the last 60 years, there has been a lot of progress and a lot of conflict. Who to assign praise/blame to? I like the overall trend that more people are empowered to do what they want to, globally, even though it results these days in some terrific violence. Along with the potential for chaos, though, pervasive local, national, and global, communication, is also making it difficult to maintain the obsolete power structures of the past - e.g. the last US election secured, because of a YouTube video revealing the true nature of the loser. And secrets of any kind have become impossible to keep (WikiLeaks). How porous everything has become. Is it the much vaunted Age of Enlightenment? Pretty obviously not, though now that things are breaking loose, in flux and in motion, we have half a chance in hell of getting there. :-) ok, hat back on wig stand... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I cannot dispute the numbers of flyers in India or Mexico cuz I am not there - I wish with all my
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Dear FFL moderators, would you please go in and excise this post (330685) from the FFL archive. The writer had no business using someone's private name in a post like this here. Buck, the rule on FFL refers to using the real identity of FFL participants who post anonymously. Post 330685 does not fall under that rule. I Shall Fight On! Fight in one hand, spit in the other, and see which one fills up first. Or, sumpin' like that. In all seriousness, though, I can't believe you're fixated on a stupid little rule on FFL when there's the very real homosexual menace that truly threatens to wipe out all of humanity.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
God damn my back is not going to survive another few posts of this kind - every time I laugh it hurts From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:42 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity You mean there are so many gay people in Europe that they’re birth rates are dropping? From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
Holy Smokes, all I did was relate a little story, with the names left out as an adjunct to explaining why I was curious about the TMO's attitude about gays - you never know what's gonna happen on FFL From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I read the post after seeing his proposal of exiling you from FFL. I can't figure out for the life of me what was wrong with that post. But then I realized from my impression of Buck's past posts that he is a TB, and he is fully dedicated to diving in the transcendent realm of consciousness and aligning himself with natural law. Therefore, his words, actions, and decisions are all in tune with the Unified Field, whereas you and I are are not as in tune with the Unified Field, and therefore we are supporting ignorance in this world with our posts. Therefore, out of dedication to enlightenment and eliminating ignorance, out of respect for the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature, I concede to Buck's decision to exile Ann from FFL. I also propose that I am exiled from FFL too, being as I am not as 'in tune' with the Unified Field. Every post from myself and Ann will only act as a Rakshasha to the divine efforts of those dedicated to living in accordance with natural law. Please, exile us Rakshashas. We are not in tune with natural law, and therefore we are prone to making mistakes. And moreover, our presence on FFL interferes with Buck's efforts to create heaven on earth, a truly divine and noble cause. Every post we submit interferes with the divine waves of natural law that will eliminate ignorance, hunger, war, and suffering for eternity. As long as Ann and I are posting on FFL, we are holding humanity back. The fate of the world lies upon this decision. We don't have any time left. We are the most important generation of all generations of all time in the history of all worlds and all civilizations since the beginning of time. If we don't act now and remove Ann and I from FFL, all will be lost. The divine perfection of Buck, the TMO, and MMY will not eliminate negativity for all of eternity if we waste any time. We must act now. Remove awoelflebater and seekliberation now. Amen to that seekliberation. And while we're at it you seemed to have achieved your goal: you found liberation and I am joining you! seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: You idiot Bucko, what did you think I said she was gay? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330685
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
On 12/26/2012 10:43 AM, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: There are lots of gay people in the arts so the idea that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Create Intelligence is ridiculous. And what about people like Alan Turing? You might not be looking at FFL if not for him. I'm thinking/hoping today has been full of ironic posters but if not, hoo boy! And if it wasn't for our wonderful gay population there would virtually BE NO ARTS and a lot less creative and beautiful things on this planet. If that ain't creative intelligence I don't know what is. If anything, homophobia limits creative intelligence or displays a lack of it. On 12/26/2012 09:27 AM, John wrote: Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
On facebook, 2 of my classmates from high school are openly gay. One of them was on the honor roll every year since elementary school and graduated in the top 5% of his class. He is currently working for an art studio. The other one had the highest SAT score in our Junior year in the high 1300's. He finished his bachelor's degree, but I don't know what he's doing for a living now. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 12/26/2012 10:43 AM, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: There are lots of gay people in the arts so the idea that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Create Intelligence is ridiculous. And what about people like Alan Turing? You might not be looking at FFL if not for him. I'm thinking/hoping today has been full of ironic posters but if not, hoo boy! And if it wasn't for our wonderful gay population there would virtually BE NO ARTS and a lot less creative and beautiful things on this planet. If that ain't creative intelligence I don't know what is. If anything, homophobia limits creative intelligence or displays a lack of it. On 12/26/2012 09:27 AM, John wrote: Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Dear Jack, Let me try. Probably that it is a non-issue as it relates to spiritual practices like this meditation which the TM movement is about, that it's an issue the TM movement does not need to 'have a position on' let alone sponsor a position on. That people who want the TM movement to make a position one way or the other need to get a different hobby. That people who try to use the movement's apparatus of teaching meditation to push their own other activist agendas should leave the organization. It's about that simple a Dharma. Thanks, -Buck in the Dome The TMO is busy saving the planet from self-destruction and this fellow worries about it's position on gays ?? Is he off medication or something ? He seriously needs a checking. BTW; Maharishi had several gay secretaries and TTC Course Leaders and it was never an issue.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: A friend of mine got kicked off campus in the 80âs (expelled â he was a student) because he was openly, somewhat flagrantly gay. These days heâs in the good graces of the movement and doing a lot to help in various ways. Charlie Lutes used to claim that Maharishi had made dire predictions about the fate of gay people, such as âit would be better had they never been bornâ. I donât know much more than that. Haven't heard that one, but perhaps Maharishi was right ? Anyway he was much to busy trying to save the planet from itself than being preoccupied with gays. However, it must be a great strain for any system, male or female to feel you are in a wrong body and the rate of suicide amongst gays is supposed to be very high. According to Adgar Casey homosexuals did'nt handle the transistion from another gender in the previous life, thus the extreme imbalances found in certain gays.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World
Those pictures of Chinese people young and old, male and female practicing qigong all together outside. I think they lead such healthy, simply lives. That's what I mean by dharmic and I think it can be expressed in many ways. But in this case I was replying to John's question about support of Nature and the herculean task of completing the railway. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: I get the impression that lots of Chinese people live quite dharmic lives. I think that would give support of Nature. Hi Share, I don't understand what you mean here. What is a 'dharmic life', what gives you that impression and how does support of nature result, what form would it take (a high speed railway)? From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World  This is an amazing accomplishment of their communist government. As such, we wonder how were they able to get the support of Nature to complete this herculean task. http://origin-www.livemint.com/Politics/5jyJk7Ekgfz4jEiQjoi60L/China-to-open-worlds-longest-highspeed-rail-line.html?facet=print
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Dear FFL moderators, would you please go in and excise this post (330685) from the FFL archive. The writer had no business using someone's private name in a post like this here. Buck, the rule on FFL refers to using the real identity of FFL participants who post anonymously. Post 330685 does not fall under that rule. I Shall Fight On! Fight in one hand, spit in the other, and see which one fills up first. Or, sumpin' like that. In all seriousness, though, I can't believe you're fixated on a stupid little rule on FFL when there's the very real homosexual menace that truly threatens to wipe out all of humanity. [Photobucket] http://s1143.beta.photobucket.com/user/azgrey/media/trannysaurus_zpse9b\ 8e2e2.jpg.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
Rick, The answer is NO. It is apparent, however, that a number of European countries is not having enough children to replace those who have died. From what I've learned, a society needs to produce a little over 2.2 number of children to maintain the present population and infrastructure. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: You mean there are so many gay people in Europe that they're birth rates are dropping? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , seekliberation seekliberation@ mailto:seekliberation@ wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-agai nst-164343932.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies
Yikes, cognitive dissonance happening! Somehow can't picture the cute guy in the Christmas hat picture saying these words. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Buck, do you remember the author and or book wherein Hagelin was supposedly John Adams reincarnated and Bob Roth was Thomas Paine? No, but I remember the book that portrayed Maharishi as the reincarnation of Santa Claus and Bevan as Rudolph, until he got so fat he couldn't fly any more and they had to use his nose as a night light in Santa's house.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
I will let others here on FFL who are more articulate respond to your asinine comments about gay people - as to Maha the great fraud, he was interested in his bank accounts - show me the evidence of his trying to save the planet and I'll take raja training - I am more persuaded by accounts of people like Mark Landau and Billy Clayton than anything else these days as to Marshy show me the money Yogi's motivations. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: A friend of mine got kicked off campus in the 80’s (expelled †he was a student) because he was openly, somewhat flagrantly gay. These days he’s in the good graces of the movement and doing a lot to help in various ways. Charlie Lutes used to claim that Maharishi had made dire predictions about the fate of gay people, such as “it would be better had they never been born�. I don’t know much more than that. Haven't heard that one, but perhaps Maharishi was right ? Anyway he was much to busy trying to save the planet from itself than being preoccupied with gays. However, it must be a great strain for any system, male or female to feel you are in a wrong body and the rate of suicide amongst gays is supposed to be very high. According to Adgar Casey homosexuals did'nt handle the transistion from another gender in the previous life, thus the extreme imbalances found in certain gays.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. There's too many people on earth by a factor of ten. We are long- term unsustainable. Trouble with your idea about european countries is that it's the indegenous populations that are shrinking (but not by much) but the birth rate of immigrants is making up for it - to the consternation of many. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: JUDY!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Returns!!!!!!!!!!!!!! New!!!!!!!!!!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6B1D0oyBK8feature=youtu.be And not a moment too soon! Thanks, obba. I hadn't seen this. I kinda doubt the film will ever get made, but one can dream... For those who've never seen it, here's the original video, the prequel to the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeaHbE-Q2s
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
And so with Rick's quoting Charlie your response isn't Oh, maybe M did have a bad attitude toward gays its maybe there is something inherently spiritually wrong with gays so that Marshy is right? Man, you talk about somebody needing an attitude adjustment - anyone who thinks, including a fake holy man that God judges ANYONE for who they love and how they love them is incorrect. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: A friend of mine got kicked off campus in the 80’s (expelled †he was a student) because he was openly, somewhat flagrantly gay. These days he’s in the good graces of the movement and doing a lot to help in various ways. Charlie Lutes used to claim that Maharishi had made dire predictions about the fate of gay people, such as “it would be better had they never been born�. I don’t know much more than that. Haven't heard that one, but perhaps Maharishi was right ? Anyway he was much to busy trying to save the planet from itself than being preoccupied with gays. However, it must be a great strain for any system, male or female to feel you are in a wrong body and the rate of suicide amongst gays is supposed to be very high. According to Adgar Casey homosexuals did'nt handle the transistion from another gender in the previous life, thus the extreme imbalances found in certain gays.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers?
...yep...:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: But I'm so very enamored of the TMO in ashes... From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers? Â Yeah, the story that TM or TMSP automatically results in benefits is sort of a fake-out. I found this out by taking the practice at its word, so to speak, for years. And yet, it wasn't until later, when I did the hard work of examining what was being revealed to me, through meditation and the siddhis, that I began to integrate the benefits and really understand where the practices and results fit into my life. So for a long time it hasn't been the story of the TMO or the beliefs in this or that, for me. After enough years I built up enough spiritual momentum so that the path became mine, alone. I continue to compare my experiences against that which I was told, or a particular framework or template I have come across (e.g. MMY's 7 SOC or the Kundalini Chakras). Unlike the past in which this would bring conflict as I was less sure of my self, now it brings clarity, as I am able to see my ongoing truth, as revealed by my experience, vs. whatever any spiritual master or text says. Regarding the TMO, Bevan all of those people - just let them all go, and find your own truth, beyond any of it. As for their day of reckoning, dharmic balance, it is always inevitable with all of us, whether we are there to personally witness it of another. We all have to play by the same rules, even those who attempt to set themselves above the rules, for a little while.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: From my point of view, if the so called yogic flying was a effective as claimed, you would see the greatest effect at the epicenter, meaning closest to the flying group - this should mean over the years extraordinary results in Fairfield and Jefferson County or even all of Iowa - but it hasn't EVER happened. The TMO says that it has effects all over America but things stay the same in the local area? TMO has consistently said Ah, we had a great effect cause we said we had a great effect, believe us when we say we have a great effect and keep sending money so we can continue to have the grand effect that we say we are having. There is another post here on FFL talking about the grand effect of the MExican group that refers to how well the government organized the event, how they brought the buses in on time - WTF!! If the Mexican government organized the event, why did the TMO ask for donations to pay for having everyone bused??? With or without a tinfoil hat, I can see these guys are wanting to continue to ride the gravy train - I look forward to the day that Tony, Bevan and all the rest are exposed for the frauds they are, the TMO folds, Marshys nevvies in India raid all the Movements assets leaving the TMO in ashes and Bevan and the boys have to make a living for themselves washing dishes or some other menial labor job, worrying how to pay the rent and utilities like the rest of us instead of living off the fat of the land in a global ashram paid for by others. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of 8,000 Mayan YFers? ÃÂ Merry Christmas, MJ! ...wait, lemme secure the hat au foil de tin, prior to responding with substance...ok, set: Yeah, it is tough to prove a negative. On the background of an always difficult world, how do you show evidence that something even worse didn't happen? As the French would say, impossible. lol Over the last 60 years, there has been a lot of progress and a lot of conflict. Who to assign praise/blame to? I like the overall trend that more people are empowered to do what they want to, globally, even though it results these days in some terrific violence. Along with the potential for chaos, though, pervasive local, national, and global, communication, is also making it difficult to maintain the obsolete power structures of the past - e.g. the last US election secured, because of a YouTube video revealing the true nature of the loser. And secrets of any kind have become impossible to keep (WikiLeaks). How porous everything has become. Is it the much vaunted Age of Enlightenment? Pretty obviously not, though now that things are breaking loose, in flux and in motion, we have half a chance in hell of getting there. :-) ok, hat back on wig stand... --- In
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: No reason to worry. The muslims will fill all the job slots until there are no longer ordinary Europeans left. What those multi-wife muslims could not accomplish by attacking europe in the middle ages, they will achieve by overtaking the population it in a few more years. Got Koran? Empty, There you go. That's the concern of governments over there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-\ against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. There's too many people on earth by a factor of ten. We are long- term unsustainable. Trouble with your idea about european countries is that it's the indegenous populations that are shrinking (but not by much) but the birth rate of immigrants is making up for it - to the consternation of many. Salyavin, You hit the nail on the head. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
I can't say for saving the planet - pretty subjective any way you slice it - his techniques worked for me. I read the BG and SBAL a long time ago, and was already pretty distant from any part of the TMO twenty years ago. Ignored the rest. 'Nuff said. I appreciate your outrage - perhaps you can write some letters to the TMO leadership, expressing your feelings closer to the source. For example, I have sent some real zingers to my city council on occasion, and showed up when necessary. It is empowering. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I will let others here on FFL who are more articulate respond to your asinine comments about gay people - as to Maha the great fraud, he was interested in his bank accounts - show me the evidence of his trying to save the planet and I'll take raja training - I am more persuaded by accounts of people like Mark Landau and Billy Clayton than anything else these days as to Marshy show me the money Yogi's motivations. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: A friend of mine got kicked off campus in the 80ââ¬â¢s (expelled â⬠he was a student) because he was openly, somewhat flagrantly gay. These days heââ¬â¢s in the good graces of the movement and doing a lot to help in various ways. Charlie Lutes used to claim that Maharishi had made dire predictions about the fate of gay people, such as ââ¬Åit would be better had they never been bornââ¬ï¿½. I donââ¬â¢t know much more than that. Haven't heard that one, but perhaps Maharishi was right ? Anyway he was much to busy trying to save the planet from itself than being preoccupied with gays. However, it must be a great strain for any system, male or female to feel you are in a wrong body and the rate of suicide amongst gays is supposed to be very high. According to Adgar Casey homosexuals did'nt handle the transistion from another gender in the previous life, thus the extreme imbalances found in certain gays.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: A friend of mine got kicked off campus in the 80âs (expelled â he was a student) because he was openly, somewhat flagrantly gay. These days heâs in the good graces of the movement and doing a lot to help in various ways. Charlie Lutes used to claim that Maharishi had made dire predictions about the fate of gay people, such as âit would be better had they never been bornâ. I donât know much more than that. That was 30 years ago. I can understand, although I can't sanction, the idea that back then flagrantly gay people would threaten the TMO's reputation. That should no longer be a concern; hopefully this is an example of a trend. Haven't heard that one, but perhaps Maharishi was right ? If 30 years ago Maharishi meant that the life of a gay person in this society was likely to involve a great deal of misery because of homophobia--to the point where such a person might wish they had never been born--that would make some sense. But I doubt that's what he had in mind, sadly. Anyway he was much to busy trying to save the planet from itself than being preoccupied with gays. However, it must be a great strain for any system, male or female to feel you are in a wrong body That is by no means a common concern for homosexuals. Most gay people have no complaints about their gender and no desire to change it. and the rate of suicide amongst gays is supposed to be very high. The *vast* majority of the psychological distress suffered by gay people related to their sexual preference is the result of society's disapproval. Fortunately that is decreasing rapidly, and we should see a corresponding decrease in the suicide rate among homosexuals. According to Adgar Casey homosexuals did'nt handle the transistion from another gender in the previous life, thus the extreme imbalances found in certain gays. Again, extreme imbalances in some gay people is much more likely the result of homophobia than of psychological problems inherent in the fact of their sexual preference. In the absence of homophobia, in other words, there would not be any more gay people with extreme imbalances than in straight people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
Welcome back Judy! Thank goodness you are here to help out with the veracity of FFL. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: No, no Bob, this is a distinction you made to me, awhile back, regarding your absolute preference for the *moistness* of a younger woman - someone thirty-ish, was I believe your cut off point. You weren't talking about cake, you were talking about *pussy*. Remember? FWIW, the only post from Bob I can find in the archives that contains the string moist was one in which he attributed a liking for moist young women to Barry. As far as I can tell, Bob never expressed a preference for same himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I've never thought of Judy as a piece of cake; if you're asking me if I admire her, absolutely (I admire everyone with talent). Are roses any less beautiful when they have fully bloomed; I guess it depends on your taste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbMYzdjuBs From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:23:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. The Wife sends her best, and my family wishes you a very Happy Christmas and fantabulous 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWbcosJdtU From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL BOB!!! What a treat you've brought us (including a glimpse of your charming self, even if it's just a quickie). Thank you so much for the video. I won't have time to watch the whole thing until after Christmas (I'm getting ready to go out of town tomorrow), but I took a look at the first few minutes, and I know I'm going to enjoy it a lot. Most cordial wishes to you and The Wife for a superb holiday. You sure have started ours out with a bang.   Â Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Ben Hur We started with Ben Hur X-mas eve... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSDXrDQEDjg Ben Hur meets Jesus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LHWyaeEHY Chariot race (this is the longest clip--10 minutes--that I could find): http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x89udi_ben-hur-chariot-race_shortfilms If you can watch it full-screen, you get some faint sense of what it was like to see in a movie theater. It remains a masterpiece of filmmaking. (No CGI!)
[FairfieldLife] Re: China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Those pictures of Chinese people young and old, male and female practicing qigong all together outside. I think they lead such healthy, simply lives. That's what I mean by dharmic and I think it can be expressed in many ways. But in this case I was replying to John's question about support of Nature and the herculean task of completing the railway. Pretty big jumps of logic and observation here. As I understand it, you have concluded, from seeing some pictures of a few Chinese people doing 'energy work' in the form of Qigong, that they therefore lead simple and healthy lives so therefore China as a country will succeed in building a high speed railway. Er, OK then, got it. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: I get the impression that lots of Chinese people live quite dharmic lives.àI think that would give support of Nature. Hi Share, I don't understand what you mean here. What is a 'dharmic life', what gives you that impression and how does support of nature result, what form would it take (a high speed railway)? From: John jr_esq@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] China Opens the Longest Rail Line in the World àThis is an amazing accomplishment of their communist government. As such, we wonder how were they able to get the support of Nature to complete this herculean task. http://origin-www.livemint.com/Politics/5jyJk7Ekgfz4jEiQjoi60L/China-to-open-worlds-longest-highspeed-rail-line.html?facet=print
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Dear FFL moderators, would you please go in and excise this post (330685) from the FFL archive. The writer had no business using someone's private name in a post like this here. Had the writer had more sense she certainly could have discreetly sent an iquiry directly to Jack and not outed the person publicly on an internet forum. This is extremely bad form. Agreed. If Mr. Jackson must take a shit why can't he do in the privy, why here ? I suppose those things never learnt as a young person is difficult to do as grown up. Git rid of the post and the ban the author for complete breach of guideline. This is extremely bad. Thank you, -Buck http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330685
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Ben Hur We started with Ben Hur X-mas eve... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSDXrDQEDjg Ben Hur meets Jesus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LHWyaeEHY Chariot race (this is the longest clip--10 minutes--that I could find): http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x89udi_ben-hur-chariot-race_shortfilms If you can watch it full-screen, you get some faint sense of what it was like to see in a movie theater. It remains a masterpiece of filmmaking. (No CGI!) This materpiece race was staged by Yakima Canutt, the grandfather of modern stuntmen, and his son doubled for Charleton Heston in long shots and some dangerous situtations. They also lost a ($100,000 at the time - 1959) 65mm Mitchell motion picture camera which crashed to the ground when one of the chariots smashed into the camera platform.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
Also, I've never made any reference to his wife and moisture, or said I was in my thirties (The Wife is in her thirties); I'm in my sixties, and the best description of me, on this forum, was Obba's where she mentioned something about bathtubs and spitting out sesame seed oil. My theory on Doctor Dumbass is that he's been channeling Turqb so much lately we may have to give Max a call, and get a quote for an online exorcism; if we're too cheap for that, we always have emptybill. http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12101 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:48:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: No, no Bob, this is a distinction you made to me, awhile back, regarding your absolute preference for the *moistness* of a younger woman - someone thirty-ish, was I believe your cut off point. You weren't talking about cake, you were talking about *pussy*. Remember? FWIW, the only post from Bob I can find in the archives that contains the string moist was one in which he attributed a liking for moist young women to Barry. As far as I can tell, Bob never expressed a preference for same himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I've never thought of Judy as a piece of cake; if you're asking me if I admire her, absolutely (I admire everyone with talent). Are roses any less beautiful when they have fully bloomed; I guess it depends on your taste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbMYzdjuBs From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:23:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. The Wife sends her best, and my family wishes you a very Happy Christmas and fantabulous 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWbcosJdtU From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL BOB!!! What a treat you've brought us (including a glimpse of your charming self, even if it's just a quickie). Thank you so much for the video. I won't have time to watch the whole thing until after Christmas (I'm getting ready to go out of town tomorrow), but I took a look at the first few minutes, and I know I'm going to enjoy it a lot. Most cordial wishes to you and The Wife for a superb holiday. You sure have started ours out with a bang.   Â Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies
other possibilities meaning other dimensions? (-: From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies ...and Deepak the Chopra was a physician during American Revolution and a very close friend of John and Abigail Adams. To your question about Roth/Paine see chapter 19 Unfortunately it remains completely stuck in the physical reality of reincarnation, without ever even entertaining for the moment other possibilities...IMHO --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Oy, my memory is definitely flawed, angelic or not (-: yep, that's the one I was thinking of, thanks for having an unflawed memory. Also angelic perhaps? Well the resemblance is pretty cool I think. What a funny old world...How about Roth and Paine? From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies  Hi my dear Christmas Angel...and that John Hagelin was the reincarnation of James Otis, a Boston lawyer who was considered to be a genius, who helped spark the revolutionary movement by taking the British to court regarding the Writs of Assistance, an illegal search and seizure law? Return of the Revolutionaries: The Case for Reincarnation and Soul Groups ...  By Walter Semkiw may be? http://tinyurl.com/cvd5vhm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Buck, do you remember the author and or book wherein Hagelin was supposedly John Adams reincarnated and Bob Roth was Thomas Paine? From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 9:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Movies  Casting John Hagelin as George Washington would be really good. And our Turqb as the Prince Juda Ben Hur. Great Christmas. -Buck Hope to get to The Crossing before the day is over. One of the Best Christmas stories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wpC8w0_k34 Ben Hur We started with Ben Hur X-mas eve... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSDXrDQEDjg Ben Hur meets Jesus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LHWyaeEHY
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
I'd say pretty effortless (-: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Maybe what's happening is some projecting of human qualities onto God? I thought doing TM was practicing all 8 limbs at once. Does it say that in back of Science of Being? Would limbless yoga be faster? From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 7:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] How long will it take to reach CC-MMY  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiTzu_SxTis I seem to recall MMY saying that in about 5 years one would develop 'quite a lot of cosmic consciousness'. Regarding the MMY video, the sage Nisargadatta, 1897-1981, is reputed have have experienced full realisation (i.e. unity) in less than three years. And he 1. Was married and had a daughter. 2. Owned eight tobacco stores. 3. Smoked cigarettes all his life. 4. Ate meat. I think you need to practice ALL eight limbs of YOGA, Yes? MMY says all eight limbs MUST be practiced simultaneously, Charlie used to say, 7 lifetimes. MMY/Gita Why is God a *jealous* God? Because unless you put HIM first, he will not come! Here is what Mark Twain said about the god of the Torah (or Old Testament from the Christian perspective): Jealousy. Do not forget it, keep it in mind. It is the key. With it you will come to partly understand God as we go along; without it nobody can understand him. As I have said, he has openly held up this treasonous key himself, for all to see. He says, naïvely, outspokenly, and without suggestion of embarrassment: I the Lord thy God am a jealous God. You see, it is only another way of saying, I the Lord thy God am a small God; a small God, and fretful about small things. He was giving a warning: he could not bear the thought of any other God getting some of the Sunday compliments of this comical little human race -- he wanted all of them for himself. He valued them. To him they were riches; just as tin money is to a Zulu. But wait -- I am not fair; I am misrepresenting him; prejudice is beguiling me into saying what is not true. He did not say he wanted all of the adulations; he said nothing about not being willing to share them with his fellow gods; what he said was, Thou shalt have no other gods before me. It is a quite different thing, and puts him in a much better light -- I confess it. There was an abundance of gods, the woods were full of them, as the saying is, and all he demanded was that he should be ranked as high as the others -- not above any of them, but not below any of them. He was willing that they should fertilize earthly virgins, but not on any better terms than he could have for himself in his turn. He wanted to be held their equal. This he insisted upon, in the clearest language: he would have no other gods before him. They could march abreast with him, but none of them could head the procession, and he did not claim the right to head it himself ...Do you think he was able to stick to that upright and creditable position? No. He could keep to a bad resolution forever, but he couldn't keep to a good one a month. By and by he threw aside and calmly claimed to be the only God in the entire universe. There is a hand-written note Twain inscribed in a copy of one of his books: All gods are better than their reputation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
Ann asked me a question but you are trying to fault me for some thing - I bet if I had always made I am a Marshy junkie and he was een-lite-ened and could NEVER do no wrong and all the people who say so are rakshasas like you have, you would have no problem with the exchange between Ann and myself. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 4:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Dear FFL moderators, would you please go in and excise this post (330685) from the FFL archive. The writer had no business using someone's private name in a post like this here. Had the writer had more sense she certainly could have discreetly sent an iquiry directly to Jack and not outed the person publicly on an internet forum. This is extremely bad form. Agreed. If Mr. Jackson must take a shit why can't he do in the privy, why here ? I suppose those things never learnt as a young person is difficult to do as grown up. Git rid of the post and the ban the author for complete breach of guideline. This is extremely bad. Thank you, -Buck http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330685
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
I always thought it was a jyotish thang (-: From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? Marshy apparently thought that homosexuality wouldn't happen in the AofE. Obviously then he saw it as violation of natural law but one that individuals can't help, it's just a yuga thang. From: seekliberation seekliberation@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Ann asked me a question but you are trying to fault me for some thing - I bet if I had always made I am a Marshy junkie and he was een-lite-ened and could NEVER do no wrong and all the people who say so are rakshasas like you have, you would have no problem with the exchange between Ann and myself. Don't worry MJ, Bucko was trying to get ME in trouble, not you and Nabby has gotten confused somewhere. I'll take full responsibility here for mentioning a name from MIU back in the 70's of someone who was a straight, female student at the time. But it appears we are the 'victims' of sloppy reading - among other things. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 4:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Dear FFL moderators, would you please go in and excise this post (330685) from the FFL archive. The writer had no business using someone's private name in a post like this here. Had the writer had more sense she certainly could have discreetly sent an iquiry directly to Jack and not outed the person publicly on an internet forum. This is extremely bad form. Agreed. If Mr. Jackson must take a shit why can't he do in the privy, why here ? I suppose those things never learnt as a young person is difficult to do as grown up. Git rid of the post and the ban the author for complete breach of guideline. This is extremely bad. Thank you, -Buck http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330685
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: Don't worry MJ, Bucko was trying to get ME in trouble, not you and Nabby has gotten confused somewhere. No, I was commenting on MrJackson neverending idea that projecting his own issues and deeprooted personal problems on to the TMO, and his willingness to fly his willie here for all to see is for him a perfectly normal, though disgusting, way of behaving. I was suggesting that if he wants to puke a privy is more suited than in a public place.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
They just don't like it that I don't praise Marshy and believe he and the Movement poop gold, silver and rose petals From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Ann asked me a question but you are trying to fault me for some thing - I bet if I had always made I am a Marshy junkie and he was een-lite-ened and could NEVER do no wrong and all the people who say so are rakshasas like you have, you would have no problem with the exchange between Ann and myself. Don't worry MJ, Bucko was trying to get ME in trouble, not you and Nabby has gotten confused somewhere. I'll take full responsibility here for mentioning a name from MIU back in the 70's of someone who was a straight, female student at the time. But it appears we are the 'victims' of sloppy reading - among other things. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 4:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Dear FFL moderators, would you please go in and excise this post (330685) from the FFL archive. The writer had no business using someone's private name in a post like this here. Had the writer had more sense she certainly could have discreetly sent an iquiry directly to Jack and not outed the person publicly on an internet forum. This is extremely bad form. Agreed. If Mr. Jackson must take a shit why can't he do in the privy, why here ? I suppose those things never learnt as a young person is difficult to do as grown up. Git rid of the post and the ban the author for complete breach of guideline. This is extremely bad. Thank you, -Buck http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330685
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
Europa is waning. It's destiny is Dar-as-Salam. Wait for it to come here. It should be our concern too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: No reason to worry. The muslims will fill all the job slots until there are no longer ordinary Europeans left. What those multi-wife muslims could not accomplish by attacking europe in the middle ages, they will achieve by overtaking the population it in a few more years. Got Koran? Empty, There you go. That's the concern of governments over there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-\ \ against-164343932.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas
Steve, I enjoyed your story; I was reminded of the schism that developed between Jung and Freud where a similar phenomenon played a part. As you may know, early in their relationship, Freud saw Jung as his heir apparent, but could not accept Jung's theories on the collective unconscious. In Jung's biography Memoires, Dreams, and Reflections and the film A Dangerous Method, there are references to an incident in Freud's study, during an argument they were having about whether consciousness existed beyond the physical plane, when a loud shot came from Freud's bookcase as if the bookcase was about to split in two. Jung looked at Freud as if to say: you see, and not missing a beat Freud said it was a completely natural phenomenon for wood to do that. I know intellectually Freud was right; when I was in the timber business I shipped kiln-dried wood from Oregon to Jeddah via Panama, and the fluctuation of the moist (ure) content (moving from temperate to tropic to desert climates) could cause some fairly severe checking and cracks in the wood; that said, Jung's theories, and his insights, explain more to me about the inner life I've experienced, in different waking, dreaming, meditative, and psychedelic states, than Freud’s more scientific explanation does. I say that as an agnostic. http://adangerousmethod-themovie.com/ From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:41:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Hey Bob, Guess I was trying to be too clever in my reply. What I was trying to say, is that I could stand a steady diet of posting from you. Re: Mountains. What a hassle to be carrying around an extra 25 pounds. Even if I could lose 10, it would help out. Strange occurrence I'll share: This morning the whole family was up early to open presents so we could get out the enjoy the newly fallen snow. At one point, I tried to dim some of the lights, but they wouldn't dim and kept flickering. I kept trying and they kept flickering. I thought, oh, another repair. Later in the afternoon, I mentioned it to my sister when she was getting ready to go back to N.M., and she said it might have been my mom and dad saying hello. She mentioned in a light-hearted, joking fashion. That did not occur to me, and I still don't see it. But it was interesting, since the lights were working great when we got back for lunch. Anyway, thinking of you with your tribe, brought this to mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: Steve, A treat to hear from you; I will always cherish your comment that my posts were like foie gras; something to look forward to, but not every day (or something like that). I also remember you create employment when Hermes smiles in your direction. I wish you, your family, and your business, a Merry Christmas and a very, very prosperous New Year. Enjoy the mountains: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFHujvkacNY From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 1:14:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Thanks Bob, We're here in Colorado right now, and my sister brought along her little Dachshund, Acorn, so it's sort of letting everyone focus on this cutie. Oh, and Bob, praise me, or scold me, but just keep talking to me every once in a while.  Nice to have you back for at least a visit. (and hopefully more) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Steve, I was sorry to hear about Buttons, if something happened to my Jack Russell (Jackie Chan), the world would be a much darker place; like the bumper sticker says: I'm trying to be the person my dog thinks I am. Jackie suggested I send you this link, when he's feeling down he likes to watch Orson Wells doing magic tricks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ajM3tVzoU From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:37:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Yeah too many posts last week and I had to have my 18 year old cat put to sleep - I was very attached to her - so I been kinda quiet since then. From http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330439 where Steve wrote: Well, my wife just called. Our black and white long hair kitty, Buttons, has cancer is going to have to be put down. The daughter just went upstairs crying. I'll likely start crying as soon as I see my wife. We had Buttons for about 15 years. Dear Michael Steve, Please accept my sincerest condolences on the loss of a family member. I'm gently
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster
You idiot, I was asking if anyone knew of any unofficial attitude on the part of the Movement towards gays based on conversations I had at MIU with a couple of gays who claimed there was at the time institutionalized prejudice. How is asking a question so objectionable to you? Are you so deeply afraid of seeing the TMO is not the Guardian of the Universe you think it is? And BTW I did not assume it was a negative attitude the TMO had or has, I was asking for information. I note you don't revile Rick or the deceased Charlie Lutes for his input and Charlie quotes. I also note that you ignored my response to merudanda's post about the gay TM group - I think it is good that it denotes a lack of prejudice towards gays on the part of the TMO I also note that the unpleasant tone and vile language and imagery you useshows youto be a perfectexample of the kind of personality that often develops after many yearsof regular practice of TM and the TM Sidhi programme - angry, unpleasant, fearful of any truth or fact that shows TM and its fraudulent founder are and werenot the saviors of the earth, and by extension that youare not a mini-savior. You disgusting imagery is ironically in keeping with the TMO's image - we say it leads to bliss and all goodness and good behavior but my actual behavior is more akinto a David Lynch film. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderators, pls. sanction this poster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: Don't worry MJ, Bucko was trying to get ME in trouble, not you and Nabby has gotten confused somewhere. No, I was commenting on MrJackson neverending idea that projecting his own issues and deeprooted personal problems on to the TMO, and his willingness to fly his willie here for all to see is for him a perfectly normal, though disgusting, way of behaving. I was suggesting that if he wants to puke a privy is more suited than in a public place.
[FairfieldLife] posting for someone
Ordinarily I don't like to play middleman, but someone asked me to post this, and in a weak moment, I said yes: I came up with an idea of what's opposite of the Unified Field. Since in John Hagelin's (a world reknowned quantum physicist) work he says the Unified Field is pure knowledge, I imagine the opposite would be not-knowingness. Also since the Unified Field is everything I imagine the opposite would be Nothing. However this nothing is something as it would have to be manifest with boundaries. I haven't come up with the answers to this yet but somehow it is still connected to the Unified Field. Also this is way out there but in Meta-physics they talk about polarities in the universe, Love and Fear; Love being all there is and fear being false evidence appearing real. However, this fear, would still be something as a concept. Once again in Hagelin's work he refers to Hidden Sector matter being what thoughts are made out of. Maybe this is how the nothing gets created. This is totally intellectual, but, if nothingness (Shain McVay Matter) was from a concept, maybe that's created from John Hagelin's hidden sector matter idea. (You can find this on the internet). Maybe a concept is nothing and it is relative to the Unified Field; picture the Unified Field in 3D with something going out of it toward you. This matter sits onto of the Unified Field, I see this in my head btw. I believe it's in another Dimension. Also I was thinking about the first dimension and a light was there, like you would see in a tunnel. Then I saw my grandpa waving at me tell me it's okay to come to him. Then when I entered I saw the Heavens going out like a triangular thing. then I looked to the side and saw Shain McVay Matter and saw that it was me all along. Anyways, have a good one FairfieldLife
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
Yes, welcome back Judy and always nice to see Emly here! Holding the fort, I noticed the Turq calmed his punches down and tried to make good with his hat picture above the waist. I suppose now he will start to send love taps out and I enjoy all of this...go get em, Judy..!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Welcome back Judy!  Thank goodness you are here to help out with the veracity of FFL.  From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: No, no Bob, this is a distinction you made to me, awhile back, regarding your absolute preference for the *moistness* of a younger woman - someone thirty-ish, was I believe your cut off point. You weren't talking about cake, you were talking about *pussy*. Remember? FWIW, the only post from Bob I can find in the archives that contains the string moist was one in which he attributed a liking for moist young women to Barry. As far as I can tell, Bob never expressed a preference for same himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I've never thought of Judy as a piece of cake; if you're asking me if I admire her, absolutely (I admire everyone with talent). Are roses any less beautiful when they have fully bloomed; I guess it depends on your taste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbMYzdjuBs From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:23:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. The Wife sends her best, and my family wishes you a very Happy Christmas and fantabulous 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWbcosJdtU From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL BOB!!! What a treat you've brought us (including a glimpse of your charming self, even if it's just a quickie). Thank you so much for the video. I won't have time to watch the whole thing until after Christmas (I'm getting ready to go out of town tomorrow), but I took a look at the first few minutes, and I know I'm going to enjoy it a lot. Most cordial wishes to you and The Wife for a superb holiday. You sure have started ours out with a bang. ààÃâàÃÂ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
and get a quote for an online exorcism; if we're too cheap for that, we always have emptybill. Sorry but I only do esorcisms. Demons are so weak and boring, that I don't waste my time. However, little god-impersonating spirits are more troublesome for the easily inspired and slack-jawed among us. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: Also, I've never made any reference to his wife and moisture, or said I was in my thirties (The Wife is in her thirties); I'm in my sixties, and the best description of me, on this forum, was Obba's where she mentioned something about bathtubs and spitting out sesame seed oil. My theory on Doctor Dumbass is that he's been channeling Turqb so much lately we may have to give Max a call, and get a quote for an online exorcism; if we're too cheap for that, we always have emptybill. http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12101 From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:48:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: No, no Bob, this is a distinction you made to me, awhile back, regarding your absolute preference for the *moistness* of a younger woman - someone thirty-ish, was I believe your cut off point. You weren't talking about cake, you were talking about *pussy*. Remember? FWIW, the only post from Bob I can find in the archives that contains the string moist was one in which he attributed a liking for moist young women to Barry. As far as I can tell, Bob never expressed a preference for same himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: I've never thought of Judy as a piece of cake; if you're asking me if I admire her, absolutely (I admire everyone with talent). Are roses any less beautiful when they have fully bloomed; I guess it depends on your taste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbMYzdjuBs From: doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:23:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. The Wife sends her best, and my family wishes you a very Happy Christmas and fantabulous 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWbcosJdtU From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL BOB!!! What a treat you've brought us (including a glimpse of your charming self, even if it's just a quickie). Thank you so much for the video. I won't have time to watch the whole thing until after Christmas (I'm getting ready to go out of town tomorrow), but I took a look at the first few minutes, and I know I'm going to enjoy it a lot. Most cordial wishes to you and The Wife for a superb holiday. You sure have started ours out with a bang. ààÃâࠠàÂ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html FWIW, http://news.yahoo.com/penguins-explicit-sex-acts-shocked-polar-explorer-125137476.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Maybe what's happening is some projecting of human qualities onto God? I thought doing TM was practicing all 8 limbs at once. Does it say that in back of Science of Being? MMY referred to Patanjali's limbs as *means* not *ends* in his Bhagavad Gita, (in the appendix on Yoga).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
Bathtubs and sesame oil..I vaguely remember...bubbles and bathtubs, hmmm, I never sent pictures to you of that! Alright, is this a hint that someone shared those pics? Spitting...blowing bubbles? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Also, I've never made any reference to his wife and moisture, or said I was in my thirties (The Wife is in her thirties); I'm in my sixties, and the best description of me, on this forum, was Obba's where she mentioned something about bathtubs and spitting out sesame seed oil. My theory on Doctor Dumbass is that he's been channeling Turqb so much lately we may have to give Max a call, and get a quote for an online exorcism; if we're too cheap for that, we always have emptybill. http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12101 From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:48:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: No, no Bob, this is a distinction you made to me, awhile back, regarding your absolute preference for the *moistness* of a younger woman - someone thirty-ish, was I believe your cut off point. You weren't talking about cake, you were talking about *pussy*. Remember? FWIW, the only post from Bob I can find in the archives that contains the string moist was one in which he attributed a liking for moist young women to Barry. As far as I can tell, Bob never expressed a preference for same himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I've never thought of Judy as a piece of cake; if you're asking me if I admire her, absolutely (I admire everyone with talent). Are roses any less beautiful when they have fully bloomed; I guess it depends on your taste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbMYzdjuBs From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:23:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. The Wife sends her best, and my family wishes you a very Happy Christmas and fantabulous 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWbcosJdtU From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL BOB!!! What a treat you've brought us (including a glimpse of your charming self, even if it's just a quickie). Thank you so much for the video. I won't have time to watch the whole thing until after Christmas (I'm getting ready to go out of town tomorrow), but I took a look at the first few minutes, and I know I'm going to enjoy it a lot. Most cordial wishes to you and The Wife for a superb holiday. You sure have started ours out with a bang. ààÃâࠠàÂ
