[FairfieldLife] Weirdly cool mobile phone app
Yesterday I heard about an iPhone app that makes perfect sense, but which is so odd that it's just to smile at. The scene is Iceland. You meet an attractive member of the opposite sex (this particular app is for heteros, for what will become obvious reasons). You hit it off, have a delightful conversation the first time you meet, and one of you wants to ask the other out. But before doing this, both parties whip out their iPhones, bump them together, and listen. If the phone emits a certain beep, they can date each other. If it emits a different kind of beep, they can't. Why? Because Iceland has such a small population that one of the potentially romance-stifling issues is the possibility of discovering too late that you're dating (or sleeping with) someone you're related to. Bad genetic ju-ju, and all that. Isn't it a weird, high-tech planet we live on?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Donââ¬â¢t waste your time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: Wow, you're getting really worked up over this stuff. Sounds to me like you could use a little something soothing and relaxing: http://youtu.be/1Q7ffGdfbqs Hilarious, I hope the honey isn't as saccharine as the singing. It's a bit pricey though, £20 for half a pound of honey seems rather excessive. I get fully organic wild honey from my local store for £5 for the same amount. True, no one has chanted at it but that isn't so much of a problem to me. Perhaps the high price reflects the high cost of the scientific research they must have conducted to feel confident making the claim that it improves eyesight? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Just when I thought you couldn't make statements of a more ignorant nature than those you have put forth in the past, you go and surprise me. Since we are all part of the Light of God, your assertion that I am not shows your ignorance, but don't worry, keep doing TM and one day you too will be enlightened and know what Xeno already knows about reality. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 2:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donââ¬â¢t waste your time  If you can do it by yourself, MJ, more power to you - But for right now, you're not even in the same Venn Diagram as the Light of God. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: This is fabulous! The best thing Marshy ever said - he only neglected to say Don't waste you time on TM. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 9:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Donââ¬â¢t waste your time àDon't waste your life. Don't waste your time, because you are the Light of God inside yourself. Make use of yourself for yourself. Don't waste your life. Don't... waste your life. You are the only hope! You are only hope for yourself; you are the only hope for your family; you are the only hope for your nation and for your worldââ¬because inside you are lively in that which is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient. What more you want? What more you want? What more you can expect of life? All that you can ever expect, all that you can ever demand, all you can ever seek is [in the] field of all possibilities lively within yourself. ---from Maharishi's Global Press Conf., 2. April 2003
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife and The unified fields of the greater maize economy
The Dome meditation numbers are down and, It's almost the end of April, which is prime time to plant corn. But farmers need a break in the rain so they can get this year's crops in the ground and try to lock in good yields at harvest. Last year, I believe I started planting on the 28th of March, and this year, it may be the 28th of April, the way it's beginning to look, Riedel says. It's just that the later we get, the more we are subject to problems from pollination due to hot weather. It's just that the later we get, the more we are subject to problems from pollination due to hot weather. Excessive heat and dryness can hurt corn pollination and stunt growth, leading to lower yields. So farmers try to plant early Last year 26 percent of the country's corn crop was already planted. This year, farmers only have 4 percent of their corn in the ground. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/04/24/177783540/for-corn-fickle-weather-makes-for-uncertain-yields
Re: [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife and The unified fields of the greater maize economy
how many of those Iowa farmers are planting RoundUp Ready corn? From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife and The unified fields of the greater maize economy The Dome meditation numbers are down and, It's almost the end of April, which is prime time to plant corn. But farmers need a break in the rain so they can get this year's crops in the ground and try to lock in good yields at harvest. Last year, I believe I started planting on the 28th of March, and this year, it may be the 28th of April, the way it's beginning to look, Riedel says. It's just that the later we get, the more we are subject to problems from pollination due to hot weather. It's just that the later we get, the more we are subject to problems from pollination due to hot weather. Excessive heat and dryness can hurt corn pollination and stunt growth, leading to lower yields. So farmers try to plant early Last year 26 percent of the country's corn crop was already planted. This year, farmers only have 4 percent of their corn in the ground. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/04/24/177783540/for-corn-fickle-weather-makes-for-uncertain-yields
[FairfieldLife] Transcendentalism
A Christian fundamentalist was once conversing with the noted India spiritual teacher, J. Krishnamurti. The more I listen to you, the more convinced I am that you must be an atheist, the fundamentalist said. I used to be an atheist, Krishnamurti replied, until I realized that I was God. The fundamentalist was shocked. Are you denying the divinity of Jesus Christ? Krishnamurti shrugged. I've never denied anyone their divinity. Why would I do it to Jesus Christ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Bruce Cockburn-inspired rap
Such beautiful music, thanks turq, listened to it a few times while I ate dinner last night. Can't figure out how I'm not familiar with his work. Anyway, glad I am now. BTW I think the title of the song is End of All Rivers. Yes, there are things that cannot be expressed in words. But I enjoy the attempt: The end of all rivers here in the one heart of us all where life surfs a dream of itself forever From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another Bruce Cockburn-inspired rap This one Speechless, the title of the album on which it appears. Live, solo, in performance. There are things that one cannot express in words: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MN-wwfwBA0 Sorry for the interruption. Carry on with your petty eqo-squabbles...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Wong you Wascally Wabbit, Doc! I said floats yer boat echoing what turq had said to me and OMMV because he often says YMMV. Unless I'm very triggered, I don't even think thoughts like your door phrase below. YMMV (-: From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Share, He trots this little drama out from time to time, when he becomes overwrought by his inability to interact gracefully on FFL. No need to fret, I assure you. He needs this place like a Turquoise Bee needs honey. However on second read, your reply does sound a bit like, sorry to see you go, but don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: well turq I would miss you if you stopped posting here but OMMV and obviously you must do whatever floats yer boat (-: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear my turqish delight and Ann who was looking forward to this reply. BTW Ann, I have another in the queue 4 u. Anyway, turq, thank you because my feelings were hurt when you gave all those kudos to Curtis and Steve yesterday. That's called 'ego,' otherwise known as 'self-importance.' You'll get over it. Either that, or you won't. :-) But I think I've learned a thing or two here at the Funny Farm Lounge so I simply enjoyed myself, hopefully not being mean spirited in the process and Bob's your uncle! Here we are! If you're saying that I shouldn't let them matter to me in an unhealthy way, then I totally agree with you. But turq, I gotta let them matter to me, you know, in a healthy way, even if I don't like how they're acting. If you feel that you have so much time remaining in your life that you feel OK spending it interacting with people who are only trying to set you up for the next time they can vent their own unhappiness on you and yell at you, so be it. You *know* in advance that this is what is going to happen. So if you continue to interact with them, some part of you *enjoys* being yelled at. Cool, I guess. Some people enjoy being tied up and whipped, or engaging in orgies with dwarves and small rodents. It's an odd planet, and there is room for pretty much any kind of kinkiness. :-) I think it might be my biggest life lesson, whatever the heck that is! In this project, FFL is a great classroom, wicked grin. As I said, whatever floats yer boat. Better you wasting your time with these people than me. Hope your project is on schedule, going well, being fun, etc. All of the above. Paris has been an utter delight, both at work and away from it. The contrast it provides to FFL and the normal conversations here makes me feel less and less like being here. To be perfectly honest, the grittiest banlieus (urban slums) of Paris are often more high-vibe. I'm not knocking your decision to keep interacting with people who you *know* intend you ill, and are only feign- ing civility in between yelling at you, hoping that *either* of these tactics will tempt you into continuing to interact with them. From my point of view, you're fortunate that one of them isn't (at the current time) Robin, because then -- like Curtis -- you'd have them writing serial short-story length diatribes at you and actually expecting you to read them. The current crop of pissants don't have the attention span to do that, so you get off relatively easy. :-) Whatever floats yer boat... From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Earth Day is ending, the lawn of my lady-parts is still not green. Has J's curse gone astray, dear grey? Share, despite AZ's...uh...colorful metaphor, I don't think you're in danger of your lady parts turning green any time soon. However, I think I detect a distinct tinge of jealousy- green coming from the person who has been reduced to sputter- ing badly-tranliterated Yiddish insults at you. :-) What's going on is that she has been counting on you being her Ongoing Victim, and in being to get you to rise to the bait whenever she taunts you. You have been failing to do that, which drives her CRAZY because she considers herself so much SMARTER than you are. ALL of her fantasies (as expressed on this forum,
[FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife and The unified fields of the greater maize economy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: how many of those Iowa farmers are planting RoundUp Ready corn? By far most of it is RoundUp Ready. Smaller portion is Food Grade-GMO-free/RoundUp Ready-free and segregated that way. The cagey farmers hedge their bet that way. Mostly the grain corn and soy is RoundUp Ready GMO now. It is incredibly uniform across the grain belt and everything (every square inch) is being row-cropped that can be now. The erosion is stunning to watch. It's staggering to see. Now that the mechanism for health related problems from RoundUp is understood and being articulated I bet people (food-buying consumers) will start switching to GMO-free food, including meat that is GMO feed free. Probably there will be enough consumer awareness by next winter that consumer demand will effect commodity prices in food. Can you imagine what that will do to hog production in the meantime as people stop buying Iowa pork fed GMO corn and soy? Beef? Grain farmers would be wise to hedge their bets and plant more food grade crop instead of GMO crop starting right now. -Buck, outstandin in his field From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife and The unified fields of the greater maize economy  The Dome meditation numbers are down and, It's almost the end of April, which is prime time to plant corn. But farmers need a break in the rain so they can get this year's crops in the ground and try to lock in good yields at harvest. Last year, I believe I started planting on the 28th of March, and this year, it may be the 28th of April, the way it's beginning to look, Riedel says. It's just that the later we get, the more we are subject to problems from pollination due to hot weather. It's just that the later we get, the more we are subject to problems from pollination due to hot weather. Excessive heat and dryness can hurt corn pollination and stunt growth, leading to lower yields. So farmers try to plant early Last year 26 percent of the country's corn crop was already planted. This year, farmers only have 4 percent of their corn in the ground. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/04/24/177783540/for-corn-fickle-weather-makes-for-uncertain-yields
[FairfieldLife] Not for us brahmacaarins: telesex!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb7DN3kpl2o RoFFLoL!
[FairfieldLife] Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
Fwd From: Ken Chawkin kchaw...@mum.edu You may have seen this story, but it's looking better each day! One of the lead rotating stories is on The Daily Beast website http://www.thedailybeast.com is on Transcendental Meditation. In the big box in the upper left corner of the home page, click on number 9 to see the coverage. The article appeared as a result of Rupert Murdoch learning to meditate last weekend. It was supposed to be private, but he tweeted about it so that's why it drew media attention. Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) http://thebea.st/0Pc6Y via @thedailybeast Invision/AP; WireImage Celebs Who Meditate Transcendental Meditation made the rounds as far back as the Beatles, but it’s picking up steam again. From Rupert Murdoch to David Lynch, see the famous faces who say “om.” Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) - The Daily Beast http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2013/04/23/oprah-more-stars-who-do-transcendental-meditation-photos.html#448ebbd1-03e5-4913-8673-cfa1da2e039a The Huffington Post: Rupert Murdoch Is Giving Transcendental Meditation A Try http://huff.to/17LsK0o via @HealthyLiving
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 20-Apr-13 00:15:02 UTC
Ann, I admit I chuckled when you say below that my description sounds contradictory and then you say that Robin is very certain within his uncertainty. I conclude that we both understand paradox. A while ago Robin told Curtis that he wants a reconciliation with me and I also want a reconciliation between us. But neither of us appreciates how the other person apologizes so I'm not sure how that would work! Nonetheless I remain available for and open to reconciliation and THAT is the action I do beyond wishing Robin happiness and well being. I stay engaged with him whereas he was the one who disengaged from our last exchange. Fine, his right to do so, etc., and perhaps that is his way of reconciling. I think we're both doing our best. Though Robin did say something recently about wanting more development so probably he disagrees with this. I asked him about it but he disengaged without replying. Anyway, it just might be as I was saying to Robin towards the end of our interactions last year: that we're simply two people too different from one another to have a viable friendship. Perhaps we've come to this understanding each on our own and a reconciliation of sorts already exists! This reply is very different from the reply I wrote 2 days ago. But it is an expression of my thoughts and feelings now. Just as last year my various so called discrepancies were expressions of my thoughts and feelings as I rode out a very challenging experience and came to different insights about it. So much so that even recently when Robin was attributing thoughts and feelings to me that I wasn't having, it didn't bother me. So in this sense, there has been change I think, and positive change at that. But I could be wrong and am confident that if I am, life will straighten me out one way or the other (-: BTW, an access number for that beautiful Jan 2012 poem from merudanda about Robin coming to FFL to heal is 302666. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 20-Apr-13 00:15:02 UTC --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, I was of course joking about totally restored as I was never unrestored, grin. And I'm glad we're having this exchange. It sounds like you're saying that in his psychological rape comment to Curtis about you, Robin was being both ironic and straight forward. Perhaps it's easier to deal with such a communication style when one has known the person, well, in person. And when one is not emotionally upset and overwhelmed. Perhaps. Having read it probably many years prior, my initial use of the phrase psychological rape was spontaneous, said in a moment of upset and yet felt spot on. This was later validated for me by Lord Knows and the Howells who have also attested to the long lasting harm of such encounters even though they are not physical rapesuch as you describe below. Ah, but only you know what your situation/perception was, not LK or the Howells. And only they know what their experience was back in the 80's and you don't. So, to be able to compare doesn't seem possible. That doesn't mean LK and the Howells didn't THINK it was the same based on your posts with Robin. But ultimately Share, you need to figure it out on your own. You may have thought the interaction was a big deal, but the aftermath became much bigger. And perhaps this is the element that you need to concentrate on Yes, it's true that Robin apologized. As did I, in the very next sentence of my original upsetting post. And I said I was willing to work things out. But he rejected both the apology and the offer. Two things here. First, I do not remember all of the details of this interaction, all of the phases of it. I am not particularly inspired to look it all up. Your memory may or may not be faulty and perhaps you have already re-read the posts pertaining to all of this and if not I suggest you do. Second, I believe that any rejection you believe Robin made toward your apology and whatever offer you made may not have been as cut and dried as you think. I would venture to say he was not rejecting YOU, he was perhaps rejecting the FORM your apology was taking. Maybe he felt it was somehow short circuited or lacked the necessary movement within yourself to have made it truly meaningful. I am not going to second guess him and, as I said, I have not gone back to re-read any of this since I first saw it when it happened back in September.  And he continued to deliver apologies that were obscured by both over analyzing and blaming me. Plus he wasn't willing to work it out offline. Anyway, I think we both made errors in the handling of a very emotional situation. Again, I am not the person to verify any of this. Judy would do a much better
[FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
I hope his teachers schedule extra checking for him. OTOH, if he tweeted just after learning, then a lot of his misconceptions will have already been cleared up by now. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@... wrote: Fwd From: Ken Chawkin kchawkin@... You may have seen this story, but it's looking better each day! One of the lead rotating stories is on The Daily Beast website http://www.thedailybeast.com is on Transcendental Meditation. In the big box in the upper left corner of the home page, click on number 9 to see the coverage. The article appeared as a result of Rupert Murdoch learning to meditate last weekend. It was supposed to be private, but he tweeted about it so that's why it drew media attention. Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) http://thebea.st/0Pc6Y via @thedailybeast Invision/AP; WireImage Celebs Who Meditate Transcendental Meditation made the rounds as far back as the Beatles, but it�s picking up steam again. From Rupert Murdoch to David Lynch, see the famous faces who say �om.� Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) - The Daily Beast http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2013/04/23/oprah-more-stars-who-do-transcendental-meditation-photos.html#448ebbd1-03e5-4913-8673-cfa1da2e039a The Huffington Post: Rupert Murdoch Is Giving Transcendental Meditation A Try http://huff.to/17LsK0o via @HealthyLiving
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rupert Murdoch takes up transcendental meditation, the hot new creed among CEOs
Is he what? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: But is he really? L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@ wrote: Rupert Murdoch takes up transcendental meditation, the hot new creed among CEOs Murdoch joins a long list of business leaders who have taken up transcendental meditation. [...] http://au.businessinsider.com/om-the-front-page-rupert-murdoch-is-learning-transcendental-meditation-2013-4
Re: [FairfieldLife] Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
Oh what a joy that one of the worst robber barons of the 20th and 21st Century is now a TM guy - wonder what will happen - will Rupert see how much the TMO owns in property and cash and contrive to rook them out of it, or will he teach the TMO leaders to be as big a robber as he is? The whole TM world is waiting with bated breath! From: Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Media coverage of TM new MUM press release Fwd From: Ken Chawkin kchaw...@mum.edu You may have seen this story, but it's looking better each day! One of the lead rotating stories is on The Daily Beast website http://www.thedailybeast.com is on Transcendental Meditation. In the big box in the upper left corner of the home page, click on number 9 to see the coverage. The article appeared as a result of Rupert Murdoch learning to meditate last weekend. It was supposed to be private, but he tweeted about it so that's why it drew media attention. Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) http://thebea.st/0Pc6Y via @thedailybeast Invision/AP; WireImage Celebs Who Meditate Transcendental Meditation made the rounds as far back as the Beatles, but it’s picking up steam again. From Rupert Murdoch to David Lynch, see the famous faces who say “om.” Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) - The Daily Beast http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2013/04/23/oprah-more-stars-who-do-transcendental-meditation-photos.html#448ebbd1-03e5-4913-8673-cfa1da2e039a The Huffington Post: Rupert Murdoch Is Giving Transcendental Meditation A Try http://huff.to/17LsK0o via @HealthyLiving
[FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
Perhaps rather: baked bread?? :o --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Oh what a joy that one of the worst robber barons of the 20th and 21st Century is now a TM guy - wonder what will happen - will Rupert see how much the TMO owns in property and cash and contrive to rook them out of it, or will he teach the TMO leaders to be as big a robber as he is? The whole TM world is waiting with bated breath! From: Dick Mays dickmays@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Media coverage of TM new MUM press release  Fwd From: Ken Chawkin kchawkin@... You may have seen this story, but it's looking better each day! One of the lead rotating stories is on The Daily Beast website http://www.thedailybeast.com is on Transcendental Meditation. In the big box in the upper left corner of the home page, click on number 9 to see the coverage. The article appeared as a result of Rupert Murdoch learning to meditate last weekend. It was supposed to be private, but he tweeted about it so that's why it drew media attention. Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) http://thebea.st/0Pc6Y  via @thedailybeast Invision/AP; WireImage Celebs Who Meditate Transcendental Meditation made the rounds as far back as the Beatles, but itâs picking up steam again. From Rupert Murdoch to David Lynch, see the famous faces who say âom.â Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) - The Daily Beast http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2013/04/23/oprah-more-stars-who-do-transcendental-meditation-photos.html#448ebbd1-03e5-4913-8673-cfa1da2e039a The Huffington Post: Rupert Murdoch Is Giving Transcendental Meditation A Try http://huff.to/17LsK0o via @HealthyLiving
[FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: I hope his teachers schedule extra checking for him. OTOH, if he tweeted just after learning, then a lot of his misconceptions will have already been cleared up by now. Expecting it to improve *everything* is a tad ambitious for the first week, but good luck to him. I imagine he needs a bit of peace after all the lawsuits that have been thrown at his hideous news network. All the revelations about the phonehacking scum in his employ who probably thought they'd never get caught. And all the, two-faced, cowardly politicians who finally turned on him after years of black- mail and denied him and his lawless family of parasites at News International almost complete control of British media. He must have lost billions, if he hasn't the courts in this country should keep at him until his brand of humiliation as entertainment and his vile right-wing tabloids are as much a part of history as the woman who enabled it all, our dear departed Maggie Thatch. Just one of her major and unacknowledged mistakes. Hopefully we'll never see his like again (once we've somehow got rid of the Daily [hate] Mail). Or maybe TM will reverse his fortunes! Nature support has to work for someone after all. Yes, he probably needs a bit of peace of mind. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote: Fwd From: Ken Chawkin kchawkin@ You may have seen this story, but it's looking better each day! One of the lead rotating stories is on The Daily Beast website http://www.thedailybeast.com is on Transcendental Meditation. In the big box in the upper left corner of the home page, click on number 9 to see the coverage. The article appeared as a result of Rupert Murdoch learning to meditate last weekend. It was supposed to be private, but he tweeted about it so that's why it drew media attention. Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) http://thebea.st/0Pc6Y via @thedailybeast Invision/AP; WireImage Celebs Who Meditate Transcendental Meditation made the rounds as far back as the Beatles, but it�s picking up steam again. From Rupert Murdoch to David Lynch, see the famous faces who say �om.� Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) - The Daily Beast http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2013/04/23/oprah-more-stars-who-do-transcendental-meditation-photos.html#448ebbd1-03e5-4913-8673-cfa1da2e039a The Huffington Post: Rupert Murdoch Is Giving Transcendental Meditation A Try http://huff.to/17LsK0o via @HealthyLiving
[FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
Fallacy of Excluded Middle. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Oh what a joy that one of the worst robber barons of the 20th and 21st Century is now a TM guy - wonder what will happen - will Rupert see how much the TMO owns in property and cash and contrive to rook them out of it, or will he teach the TMO leaders to be as big a robber as he is? The whole TM world is waiting with bated breath! From: Dick Mays dickmays@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Media coverage of TM new MUM press release  Fwd From: Ken Chawkin kchawkin@... You may have seen this story, but it's looking better each day! One of the lead rotating stories is on The Daily Beast website http://www.thedailybeast.com is on Transcendental Meditation. In the big box in the upper left corner of the home page, click on number 9 to see the coverage. The article appeared as a result of Rupert Murdoch learning to meditate last weekend. It was supposed to be private, but he tweeted about it so that's why it drew media attention. Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) http://thebea.st/0Pc6Y  via @thedailybeast Invision/AP; WireImage Celebs Who Meditate Transcendental Meditation made the rounds as far back as the Beatles, but itâs picking up steam again. From Rupert Murdoch to David Lynch, see the famous faces who say âom.â Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) - The Daily Beast http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2013/04/23/oprah-more-stars-who-do-transcendental-meditation-photos.html#448ebbd1-03e5-4913-8673-cfa1da2e039a The Huffington Post: Rupert Murdoch Is Giving Transcendental Meditation A Try http://huff.to/17LsK0o via @HealthyLiving
[FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Oh what a joy that one of the worst robber barons of the 20th and 21st Century is now a TM guy - wonder what will happen - will Rupert see how much the TMO owns in property and cash and contrive to rook them out of it, or will he teach the TMO leaders to be as big a robber as he is? Maybe he'll lend them a lawyer or two to fight the case in India. That's assuming he doesn't need them all to keep ex-editor of the News of the World, Rebecca Brooks, out of jail. What a fucking travesty politics is, David Cameron - the British prime minister- is best friends with the editor of the biggest tabloid in the country. As she texted him after his election; I look forward to working with you. I hope they throw the book at her, and him too. The whole TM world is waiting with bated breath! It's funny how the TMO treat everyone famous who does TM. When a politician in the UK admits to meditating everyone in the TMO starts taking them seriously. Doesn't matter what side of the political fence they are on, all that matters is that they are one of us. I guess that's because of the weird belief that just by meditating people are making better decisions. They really believe this stuff. It's all to do with absorbing the qualities of the unified field apparently I once had someone explain to me that the person who should be running the world is the head of the Natural Law Party because he must have the most coherent brain waves. We know that because Marshy gave him the position in the first place. Curious and rather scary circular reasoning. But I shall be checking page 3 of The Sun for signs of the rising tide of the age of enlightenment. From: Dick Mays dickmays@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Media coverage of TM new MUM press release  Fwd From: Ken Chawkin kchawkin@... You may have seen this story, but it's looking better each day! One of the lead rotating stories is on The Daily Beast website http://www.thedailybeast.com is on Transcendental Meditation. In the big box in the upper left corner of the home page, click on number 9 to see the coverage. The article appeared as a result of Rupert Murdoch learning to meditate last weekend. It was supposed to be private, but he tweeted about it so that's why it drew media attention. Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) http://thebea.st/0Pc6Y  via @thedailybeast Invision/AP; WireImage Celebs Who Meditate Transcendental Meditation made the rounds as far back as the Beatles, but itâs picking up steam again. From Rupert Murdoch to David Lynch, see the famous faces who say âom.â Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) - The Daily Beast http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2013/04/23/oprah-more-stars-who-do-transcendental-meditation-photos.html#448ebbd1-03e5-4913-8673-cfa1da2e039a The Huffington Post: Rupert Murdoch Is Giving Transcendental Meditation A Try http://huff.to/17LsK0o via @HealthyLiving
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 20-Apr-13 00:15:02 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, I admit I chuckled when you say below that my description sounds contradictory and then you say that Robin is very certain within his uncertainty. I conclude that we both understand paradox. Perhaps a sort of paradox but also a sort of duality where he remains constantly open to new input (so in a way he is illustrating a kind of uncertainness) and is merely certain that he has to be this way -open to the feedback of life. It is a state of constant movement as I see it although the perceiver himself can remain still but keeps the gate open for constant feedback from the outside (and inside). That feedback back and forth from perceiver to environment, environment to perceiver is the flow, the movement. A while ago Robin told Curtis that he wants a reconciliation with me and I also want a reconciliation between us. But neither of us appreciates how the other person apologizes so I'm not sure how that would work! Nonetheless I remain available for and open to reconciliation and THAT is the action I do beyond wishing Robin happiness and well being. I stay engaged with him whereas he was the one who disengaged from our last exchange. Fine, his right to do so, etc., and perhaps that is his way of reconciling. I think we're both doing our best. Though Robin did say something recently about wanting more development so probably he disagrees with this. I asked him about it but he disengaged without replying. Anyway, it just might be as I was saying to Robin towards the end of our interactions last year: that we're simply two people too different from one another to have a viable friendship. I think that you have hit upon something that is true here, or could be. In my experience there are two kinds of people when it comes to Robin; those that 'get' him and those that simply will never get past a combination of puzzlement and reaction to him. It is as if he lives on this slightly different frequency where if you venture there you are either discombobulated and can't exit fast enough or you look around and sort of wonder at it all while at the same time appreciating the slight strangeness of it. It can cause you to have to move a little further into areas you are not used to exploring. That doesn't mean I always agree or even understand what it means to 'get to' where Robin functions from but it is unique.  Perhaps we've come to this understanding each on our own and a reconciliation of sorts already exists! That's a good way to look at it. Perhaps the reconciliation isn't happening BETWEEN the two of you but within, individually, each one of you so it is finished on some level - at least on that other subject. And there simply may not be the opportunity or means for this to happen in the future anyway so you are going to have to accept that as it is now, is how it has to be until if and when you can communicate again and that communication may never touch upon this particular subject - directly - again. This reply is very different from the reply I wrote 2 days ago. But it is an expression of my thoughts and feelings now. Just as last year my various so called discrepancies were expressions of my thoughts and feelings as I rode out a very challenging experience and came to different insights about it. So much so that even recently when Robin was attributing thoughts and feelings to me that I wasn't having, it didn't bother me. So in this sense, there has been change I think, and positive change at that. But I could be wrong and am confident that if I am, life will straighten me out one way or the other (-: Life can help straighten things out but you also have to be willing to go along for the ride or it just becomes heel marks in the dirt! BTW, an access number for that beautiful Jan 2012 poem from merudanda about Robin coming to FFL to heal is 302666. Thanks, I re read most of that post and it seems a long time ago; that was right after I stumbled onto FFL. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 20-Apr-13 00:15:02 UTC  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann, I was of course joking about totally restored as I was never unrestored, grin.àAnd I'm glad we're having this exchange.àIt sounds like you're saying that in his psychological rape comment to Curtis about you, Robin was being both ironic and straight forward.àPerhaps it's easier to deal with such a communication style when one has known the person, well, in person.àAnd when one is not emotionally upset and overwhelmed. Perhaps. Having read it probably many years prior, my initial use of the phrase
[FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: [...] But I shall be checking page 3 of The Sun for signs of the rising tide of the age of enlightenment. For those who didn't get that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_Three L
[FairfieldLife] Well, brahmasthaana of the biggest inland town in Scandinavia!
I've read the Keskus-tori (Central square) is bigger than the Krasnaya Ploshtshad (sp? Red square) of Moscow?! http://virtualtampere.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
Michael Jackson: Oh what a joy that one of the worst robber barons of the 20th and 21st Century is now a TM guy - wonder what will happen - will Rupert see how much the TMO owns in property and cash and contrive to rook them out of it, or will he teach the TMO leaders to be as big a robber as he is? The whole TM world is waiting with bated breath! Logical fallacy? You probably should have taken a logic course at MIU. LoL! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring The Huffington Post: Rupert Murdoch Is Giving Transcendental Meditation A Try http://huff.to/17LsK0o via @HealthyLiving
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
Can't you just see Murdoch bowing to a pic of Guru Dev??? From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Oh what a joy that one of the worst robber barons of the 20th and 21st Century is now a TM guy - wonder what will happen - will Rupert see how much the TMO owns in property and cash and contrive to rook them out of it, or will he teach the TMO leaders to be as big a robber as he is? Maybe he'll lend them a lawyer or two to fight the case in India. That's assuming he doesn't need them all to keep ex-editor of the News of the World, Rebecca Brooks, out of jail. What a fucking travesty politics is, David Cameron - the British prime minister- is best friends with the editor of the biggest tabloid in the country. As she texted him after his election; I look forward to working with you. I hope they throw the book at her, and him too. The whole TM world is waiting with bated breath! It's funny how the TMO treat everyone famous who does TM. When a politician in the UK admits to meditating everyone in the TMO starts taking them seriously. Doesn't matter what side of the political fence they are on, all that matters is that they are one of us. I guess that's because of the weird belief that just by meditating people are making better decisions. They really believe this stuff. It's all to do with absorbing the qualities of the unified field apparently I once had someone explain to me that the person who should be running the world is the head of the Natural Law Party because he must have the most coherent brain waves. We know that because Marshy gave him the position in the first place. Curious and rather scary circular reasoning. But I shall be checking page 3 of The Sun for signs of the rising tide of the age of enlightenment. From: Dick Mays dickmays@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Media coverage of TM new MUM press release  Fwd From: Ken Chawkin kchawkin@... You may have seen this story, but it's looking better each day! One of the lead rotating stories is on The Daily Beast website http://www.thedailybeast.com is on Transcendental Meditation. In the big box in the upper left corner of the home page, click on number 9 to see the coverage. The article appeared as a result of Rupert Murdoch learning to meditate last weekend. It was supposed to be private, but he tweeted about it so that's why it drew media attention. Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) http://thebea.st/0Pc6Y  via @thedailybeast Invision/AP; WireImage Celebs Who Meditate Transcendental Meditation made the rounds as far back as the Beatles, but it’s picking up steam again. From Rupert Murdoch to David Lynch, see the famous faces who say “om.†Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) - The Daily Beast http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2013/04/23/oprah-more-stars-who-do-transcendental-meditation-photos.html#448ebbd1-03e5-4913-8673-cfa1da2e039a The Huffington Post: Rupert Murdoch Is Giving Transcendental Meditation A Try http://huff.to/17LsK0o via @HealthyLiving
[FairfieldLife] For Card - Drummer question
Hey Card, Who's that drummer with a rather long multi-syllabic name who's incredibly fast and good and plays in a big band?
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Card - Drummer question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Hey Card, Who's that drummer with a rather long multi-syllabic name who's incredibly fast and good and plays in a big band? Too many possibilities. Perhaps you could find him/(her?) here: http://www.drummerworld.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.13
turquoiseb: So I went out bike riding in Paris. So, you rode a bike today. Sounds like a great idea, biking in Paris! The city of San Antonio has been designated as a Bronze Level Bicycle Friendly Community by the League of American Bicyclists. So, yeah! http://www.sanantonio.gov/oep/sabikes/ http://sanantonio.bcycle.com/ http://www.sanantonio.gov/oep/sabikes/ Barry: You've got to have an ace in the hole! You've got to have an ace in the hole. A little secret that nobody knows. Life is a gamble, a game we all play, But you need to save something for a rainy day. You've got to learn to play your cards right if you expect to win in life. Don't put it all on the line for just one roll. You've got to have an ace in the hole. George Strait - Ace In The Hole - Live From Tucson http://youtu.be/5bWWGFOYaN4 Lyrics: http://youtu.be/WkAnOetp2Bs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Can't you just see Murdoch bowing to a pic of Guru Dev??? I'd pay good money for a copy of that. We should bug the local TM centre then sell the pic to Daily Mail. Give him a taste of his own medicine! From: salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Oh what a joy that one of the worst robber barons of the 20th and 21st Century is now a TM guy - wonder what will happen - will Rupert see how much the TMO owns in property and cash and contrive to rook them out of it, or will he teach the TMO leaders to be as big a robber as he is? Maybe he'll lend them a lawyer or two to fight the case in India. That's assuming he doesn't need them all to keep ex-editor of the News of the World, Rebecca Brooks, out of jail. What a fucking travesty politics is, David Cameron - the British prime minister- is best friends with the editor of the biggest tabloid in the country. As she texted him after his election; I look forward to working with you. I hope they throw the book at her, and him too. The whole TM world is waiting with bated breath! It's funny how the TMO treat everyone famous who does TM. When a politician in the UK admits to meditating everyone in the TMO starts taking them seriously. Doesn't matter what side of the political fence they are on, all that matters is that they are one of us. I guess that's because of the weird belief that just by meditating people are making better decisions. They really believe this stuff. It's all to do with absorbing the qualities of the unified field apparently I once had someone explain to me that the person who should be running the world is the head of the Natural Law Party because he must have the most coherent brain waves. We know that because Marshy gave him the position in the first place. Curious and rather scary circular reasoning. But I shall be checking page 3 of The Sun for signs of the rising tide of the age of enlightenment. From: Dick Mays dickmays@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Media coverage of TM new MUM press release àFwd From: Ken Chawkin kchawkin@ You may have seen this story, but it's looking better each day!àOne of the leadàrotating stories is onàThe Daily Beast websiteàhttp://www.thedailybeast.comàis onàTranscendental Meditation. In the big box in theàupper left corner of the home page, click on number 9 to see the coverage.àThe article appeared as a result of Rupert Murdoch learning to meditate lastàweekend. It was supposed to be private, but he tweeted about it so that's whyàit drew media attention. Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) http://thebea.st/0Pc6Yààviaà@thedailybeast Invision/AP; WireImage Celebs Who Meditate Transcendental Meditation made the rounds as far back as the Beatles, but itââ¬â¢s picking up steam again. From Rupert Murdoch to David Lynch, see the famous faces who say ââ¬Åom.â⬠Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) - The Daily Beastàhttp://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2013/04/23/oprah-more-stars-who-do-transcendental-meditation-photos.html#448ebbd1-03e5-4913-8673-cfa1da2e039a The Huffington Post: Rupert Murdoch Is Giving Transcendental Meditation A Try http://huff.to/17LsK0oàvia @HealthyLiving
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.13
Bhairitu: Wouldn't be a bad walk if it weren't mostly uphill. You're going to drive your car two blocks? Go figure. This looks like Julian Castro, the mayor of S.A. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Castro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Castro http://www.sanantonio.gov/oep/sabikes/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
but but but, Judy, what about the Go to hell and bake bagels? That seems like a curse to me! Anyway, in case it was to me, here's my reply: Bagels from hell with love, gluten free for thee and all that lies beneath your grateful belly button, etc. BTW I take everything everybody says and see how it fits with my own experience. So nobody really CONVINCES me of anything. As for your list of trustworthy people, I think all and all it's a really good list. But 1 or 2 people on that list often sound prejudiced against me. Fine, it's their right, etc. But hopefully they'll understand why I then won't be giving their words on anything, much less on me, much credence as a result. And I do realize that I might be sensitive about this so I do apologize if I'm misinterpreting someone about this. As best as I can, I resist getting sucked into the ongoing feud on FFL and I will continue to do this. I aim to take each post on its own merit, believing that people do change and grow in their ability to experience and express truth. But having said that, I now mentally hear Xeno chuckling so I better shut up! From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ok, Judy I'm busted! That's what I get for being such a scaredy cat and not translating the Yiddish bellybutton sutra til just now. Anyway, I was scratching my head, wondering why you mentioned bellybutton in a later post. Mystery solved! Yes, well, you learned a little something about yourself, about me, and maybe even about your purported supporters, who apparently managed to convince you of something they knew wasn't true--that I had melted down and been reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults because I was jealous of you (??) and furious that you refused to interact with me (???). As with your friend who made up a story about my friendship with Robin being based on despising Barry, you might want to think twice before trusting in these well wishers again. Bottom line, there are people on FFL you can trust, and those you can't. The former include (but are not necessarily limited to) Alex, sparaig, doctordumbass, Bhairitu, salyavin, laughinggull, Xeno, Ann, Emily, raunchy, and me. Some of us may give you a hard time now and then, and sometimes we make inadvertent mistakes, but we'll never lie to you or try to mislead you. (And if we use irony, it isn't intended to confuse you; we expect you to get it.) Just for the record, BTW, there's no such thing as a bad transliteration of Yiddish in anything but a formal context (as Barry knows). Many Yiddish words can be and are spelled multiple ways (e.g., tukas, tukus, tucas, tucus, tochis, toches, tochas, tochus, tuchas, tuches, tuchis). Often a particular spelling reflects a regional pronunciation. Sometimes a word has come to be spelled a particular way by custom, and it's spelled like that in formal contexts even though it doesn't follow the approved scholarly transliteration system. Another reason there are so many variant spellings in Yiddish is that while the language is primarily a combination of Hebrew and medieval German, it also has lots of loan words from many different languages, and those words are usually spelled phonetically. OTOH I think it was all part of life's mischievous way of plotting to get me to write that little ditty about lawns and lady parts which was fun for me to compose and hopefully for others to read. And I've expanded it! Stay tuned Funny Farm Lounge lizards ha ha! May you marry a doctor. Which is the only other Yiddish saying I know. I hope it's not an insult? Jeez, how can a half Irish shiksha like me keep up?! From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann, I am in awe! How do you find these gems?! Anyway, about the other cartoon curse situation, is it really a curse? I think it's kind of a sweet blessing, may he laugh with lizards. I mean, if a person could laugh with lizards, they could pretty much laugh about all of it. IMHO. I don't think anything that has been posted in Yiddish in the past day or so has been as serious as a curse. Judaism forbids cursing, as it happens. Yiddish *insults*, however, are a high art. They're typically witty and creative, but they can get pretty nasty. The ones I used (none was a blessing) are among the very mildest. I mean, if one feels one has been cursed by Thank you very much
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: but but but, Judy, what about the Go to hell and bake bagels? That seems like a curse to me! Naw, just think of it as a career suggestion. Maybe suggest one for her, in Yiddish.  Anyway, in case it was to me, here's my reply: Bagels from hell with love, gluten free for thee and all that lies beneath your grateful belly button, etc. BTW I take everything everybody says and see how it fits with my own experience. So nobody really CONVINCES me of anything. As for your list of trustworthy people, I think all and all it's a really good list. But 1 or 2 people on that list often sound prejudiced against me. Fine, it's their right, etc. But hopefully they'll understand why I then won't be giving their words on anything, much less on me, much credence as a result. And I do realize that I might be sensitive about this so I do apologize if I'm misinterpreting someone about this.   As best as I can, I resist getting sucked into the ongoing feud on FFL and I will continue to do this. I aim to take each post on its own merit, believing that people do change and grow in their ability to experience and express truth. But having said that, I now mentally hear Xeno chuckling so I better shut up! From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ok, Judy I'm busted! That's what I get for being such a scaredy cat and not translating the Yiddish bellybutton sutra til just now. Anyway, I was scratching my head, wondering why you mentioned bellybutton in a later post. Mystery solved! Yes, well, you learned a little something about yourself, about me, and maybe even about your purported supporters, who apparently managed to convince you of something they knew wasn't true--that I had melted down and been reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults because I was jealous of you (??) and furious that you refused to interact with me (???). As with your friend who made up a story about my friendship with Robin being based on despising Barry, you might want to think twice before trusting in these well wishers again. Bottom line, there are people on FFL you can trust, and those you can't. The former include (but are not necessarily limited to) Alex, sparaig, doctordumbass, Bhairitu, salyavin, laughinggull, Xeno, Ann, Emily, raunchy, and me. Some of us may give you a hard time now and then, and sometimes we make inadvertent mistakes, but we'll never lie to you or try to mislead you. (And if we use irony, it isn't intended to confuse you; we expect you to get it.) Just for the record, BTW, there's no such thing as a bad transliteration of Yiddish in anything but a formal context (as Barry knows). Many Yiddish words can be and are spelled multiple ways (e.g., tukas, tukus, tucas, tucus, tochis, toches, tochas, tochus, tuchas, tuches, tuchis). Often a particular spelling reflects a regional pronunciation. Sometimes a word has come to be spelled a particular way by custom, and it's spelled like that in formal contexts even though it doesn't follow the approved scholarly transliteration system. Another reason there are so many variant spellings in Yiddish is that while the language is primarily a combination of Hebrew and medieval German, it also has lots of loan words from many different languages, and those words are usually spelled phonetically. OTOH I think it was all part of life's mischievous way of plotting to get me to write that little ditty about lawns and lady parts which was fun for me to compose and hopefully for others to read.àAnd I've expanded it!àStay tuned Funny Farm Lounge lizards ha ha! May you marry a doctor.àWhich is the only other Yiddish saying I know.àI hope it's not an insult?àJeez, how can a half Irish shiksha like me keep up?!àFrom: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann, I am in awe! How do you find these gems?! Anyway, about the other cartoon curse situation, is it really a curse? I think it's kind of a sweet blessing, may he laugh with lizards. I mean, if a person could laugh with lizards, they could pretty much laugh about all of it. IMHO. I don't think anything that has been posted in Yiddish in the past day or so has been as serious as a curse.
[FairfieldLife] Rupert Murdoch Is Learning Transcendental Meditation | Business Insider Australia
http://au.businessinsider.com/om-the-front-page-rupert-murdoch-is-learning-t ranscendental-meditation-2013-4 OM THE FRONT PAGE: Rupert Murdoch Is Learning Transcendental Meditation Picture: Getty / Justin Sullivan News Corporation chairman Rupert Murdoch is trying to learn Transcendental Meditation, the technique developed by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the spiritual mentor to The Beatles. The media billionaire, who works hard at keeping fit, announced his startling new personal improvement project in a tweet this morning: Murdoch joined Twitter at the start of 2012 and uses it to share his schedule but also his views on global economics, politics and occasionally defend his publications https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/325603844383969280 . After the phone hacking scandal came to a head in 2011 and the Leveson inquiry last year, Murdoch, now 82, is in the throes of another challenging year with the scheduled breakup of News Corporation into a publishing division which will hold the newspapers, and an entertainment company to be called 21st Century Fox. Meditation is increasingly popular in business circles as a way to enhance problem-solving skills and manage stress. Ray Dalio, founder of Bridgewater Associates, one of the world's largest hedge funds, is reported to have built many of Transcendental Meditation's tenets into Bridgewater's culture http://nymag.com/news/business/wallstreet/ray-dalio-2011-4/ http://nymag.com/news/business/wallstreet/ray-dalio-2011-4/ . Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, a Buddhist, was a practitioner of Zen meditation. Former Monsanto chief executive Bob Shapiro even introduced meditation rooms http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=aR2aP.X_Bflw http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchiveamp;sid=aR2aP.X_Bflw at the company after he discovered the practice. What's fascinating about Murdoch's experiment with meditation is how it flies in the face of the high-energy, take-no-prisoners persona attributed to him in popular culture. Transcendental Meditation involves the repeating of a mantra, usually given to the practitioner by a teacher, while sitting still with eyes closed. The specific mantra is intended to help that individual move to a quieter, more harmonious way of thinking. Late last year this rather meditative photo was posted to Murdoch's Twitter feed while he was on a visit to Australia: And this month during his visit he talked about his spiritual home: So the question everyone will want to know: What will Rupert's mantra be? SEE ALSO: CEOs who meditate http://www.businessinsider.com/ceos-who-meditate-2012-5?op=1 http://www.businessinsider.com/ceos-who-meditate-2012-5?op=1 Follow Business Insider Australia on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/BusinessInsiderAustralia and Twitter https://twitter.com/businsiderau
[FairfieldLife] Oprah more stars who do Transcendental Meditation
Oprah more stars who do Transcendental Meditation * http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2013/04/23/oprah-more-stars-who-do-transcendental-meditation-photos.html *
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Share - Peter Mayer Holy Now (with lyrics in captions) - YouTube
A beautiful, inspiring song. Thanks to you, and Share as well. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Just ran into Share at the store and told her about this song. I think all will enjoy it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiypaURysz4
[FairfieldLife] Source of the Sacred Ganges by William Dalrymple
This was written by William Dalrymple, A British writer who lives in India and has written several award winning books about India. Source of the Sacred Ganges If you think it is cold now, said the holy man, you should see it in winter. Ram Sarandas and I were standing on the edge of the Ganges, not far from its source high in the Himalayas, near the Indian-Tibet border. It was May, but while in the plains the mercury was hitting close on 48 degrees, here at Cheerbasa a chill wind was blowing down from the snow peaks and I was shivering in my thermals. Ram Sarandas, however, was naked but for a saffron loincloth, and seemed completely immune to the icy winds. He stood in front of me smiling broadly, skin oiled and supple, his hair tangled in a mass of knotted dreadlocks. But even you can't live here in the winter, I said looking at the glacier glinting in the sun, only a mile down the valley. It must be completely cut off. It is, said Ram. From November to May the road is closed. Some years we get fourteen feet of snow here. So I stay in my hermitage, praying to Mother Ganga. Do you have electricity? Of course not. Just a petromax lamp. I eat dried fruit and in summer I dry green leaves and eat them as well. For sixteen years I have lived liked this. But what if you fall sick? In all these years I have never had any serious cold or fever. Don't you feel the cold? Yes! But I am used to it like the creatures and other wildlife here. I do my yoga for fourteen hours a day. But first, I take a dip in the Ganges, normally at 5 am. This sets me up for the day. A dip ? Even in winter? But isn't the Ganges frozen over? Yes, sometimes. But we cut a hole. The cold is good: it helps you concentrate more on what you want to achieve. It leads you more brightly into the path ahead. Ram paused and considered for a second. Only occasionally I have problems, he added. But then I am looked after. What do you mean? I asked. Once or twice I have taken a dip in the freezing waters, and I have stuck there, frozen to the ice. But something extraordinary happens: I have felt myself lifted by the waters. I was in the arms of the Mother Ganges, and it was Ganga herself who pulled me out, just like a mother. All the sadhus up here report the same thing. The River Goddess: she looks after us like a mother looks after her child. What Ram Das said was something I had heard again and again on my journey up the Ganges last summer to make a series, Indian Journeys, for the BBC. For Indians revere their rivers like no other nation, and of all river they revere the Ganges. According to Hindu theology, the Goddess Ganges - or Ganga as she is known in India - is the Mother Goddess of the whole Subcontinent. She is tangible, approachable and all accepting: distilled compassion in liquid form. As well as Ganga, Hindus have given the Goddess 107 other names: Daughter of the Himalaya, Cow Which Gives Much Milk, Having Beautiful Limbs, Eternally Pure, Light Amid the Darkness of Ignorance... Being brushed by a breeze containing even a drop of Ganges water is said to erase instantly all sins accumulated over a hundred lifetimes. According to the Agni Purana, written about 1,000 B.C, bathing in the waters of the Ganges is an experience similar to being in heaven. To die while being immersed in the Ganges results in moksha, final spiritual liberation. For this reason, Hindus from all over India try once in their lives to visit the Ganges and bathe in her waters. But the more hardy and devout make one more effort still. Although the entire river is held to be sacred, Hindus believe that its source is of an extra special sanctity. According to Hindu cosmography the source- the Cow's Mouth which lies hidden high in the Central Himalayas- is the most sacred place on earth. To visit it is the most auspicious act you can perform. So every summer, as the sun dries and desiccates the white-hot plains of India, a stream of pilgrims leave their farms and villages, pack their belongings into bound-up cloths, and plod their way up to Hardwar, where they bathe in the river. Most then return home. But a few, mainly sadhus (or wandering Holy Men), press on into the cool of the High Himalayas, taking the old pilgrim's route across the mountains to Gaumukh, the Cow's Mouth. The closer you get to the source, the more you find yourself surrounded by these sadhus. For years I had seen the holy men in my travels all over India and found them slightly menacing figures. But it was only seeing them in such numbers up in the wild Himalayas that made me realise quite how many of them there are, and how many different forms they take. Some are freelance wanderers, moving from town to town; others live ordered monastic lives in ashrams, dividing their day according to strict rules and performing severe penances. Most fascinating of all are the naked naga
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.13
On 04/24/2013 08:33 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu: Wouldn't be a bad walk if it weren't mostly uphill. You're going to drive your car two blocks? Go figure. This looks like Julian Castro, the mayor of S.A. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Castro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Castro http://www.sanantonio.gov/oep/sabikes/ You don't know the hill. I'm mentioned here before it lacks a sidewalk and so you wind up walking in a street that has blind corners. Very unsafe! I've mentioned on local blogs it is a tragedy waiting to happen and the city needs to put a sidewalk all the way up the hill and widen the street so there is a bike lane going up too. But I'm sure the property owners would stick it to the city for that little strip of land needed.
[FairfieldLife] Last edition: 'survival in paradise' with LB shriver 7:30pm Revelations bookstore wed April 24th
hi friends, LB will be giving a talk Last edition: survival in paradise 7:30pm wed April 24 at Revelations bookstoreplease plan to be on time! all blessings, jennifer
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LB Shriver our investors hope 4 its publication
This conclusion of his book Re: Guru Dev is long awaited. I Wm Leed know of some 5 investors looking for its publication there as wel as my renumeration from the book sales. If he is short of funds I am able to again advance such as needed 4 the book completion. This in consert with two previous investors with L. B. Shriver. To my great regret I am NOT able to attend to hear him speak re the book. I hope some there would send here the gist or praises of his talk. Some of or even all of his investors will be most interested in this I feel this publication will be a most fitting memorial to his services not only in it long awaited publication if that is it but also for his all to short life here as shared by his friends, as well as those he has touched with his past writings in town. I regret he has chosen not to speak to me or allow me to interact with him of late perhaps he is not happy with his financial dealings with me some of his other investors. I hold NO grudges with him or to him. We will all be repaid next life time money in the bank I tell others, note we want him to succeed. Again 2 of us are presently willing to assist in supplying more dollars for it successful compleation memorial to him his life. Very best in all Bill Leed hoping some one may print this give it to him or bring up the subject so he may take advantage of our present offer. Any other investors may reach out to me so I may assist them ...US ALL ... to further our common aim hope of the books publication its success. A fine reflection of L. B's life with us. _wleed3@aol.com_ (mailto:wle...@aol.com) Best in all this L. B. In a message dated 4/23/2013 10:39:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com writes: Yep according to The Fairfield Weekly Reader, Mr. Shriver hopes to bring his notorious publication to a satisfactory state of completion and closure, beginning at 7:30pm. All are welcome. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: (The Fairfield Weekly Reader) LB Shriver to Speak at Revelations : Survival in Paradise -The Final Issue- will be the subject of live talk at Revelations, Weds., April 24. 7:30pm Thanks, Buck! That event was so buried in all the tiny print of the page that I would have totally missed it. I'm like totally there, dude! To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
That's great Sal! Best laugh I had all day! From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Can't you just see Murdoch bowing to a pic of Guru Dev??? I'd pay good money for a copy of that. We should bug the local TM centre then sell the pic to Daily Mail. Give him a taste of his own medicine! From: salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Oh what a joy that one of the worst robber barons of the 20th and 21st Century is now a TM guy - wonder what will happen - will Rupert see how much the TMO owns in property and cash and contrive to rook them out of it, or will he teach the TMO leaders to be as big a robber as he is? Maybe he'll lend them a lawyer or two to fight the case in India. That's assuming he doesn't need them all to keep ex-editor of the News of the World, Rebecca Brooks, out of jail. What a fucking travesty politics is, David Cameron - the British prime minister- is best friends with the editor of the biggest tabloid in the country. As she texted him after his election; I look forward to working with you. I hope they throw the book at her, and him too. The whole TM world is waiting with bated breath! It's funny how the TMO treat everyone famous who does TM. When a politician in the UK admits to meditating everyone in the TMO starts taking them seriously. Doesn't matter what side of the political fence they are on, all that matters is that they are one of us. I guess that's because of the weird belief that just by meditating people are making better decisions. They really believe this stuff. It's all to do with absorbing the qualities of the unified field apparently I once had someone explain to me that the person who should be running the world is the head of the Natural Law Party because he must have the most coherent brain waves. We know that because Marshy gave him the position in the first place. Curious and rather scary circular reasoning. But I shall be checking page 3 of The Sun for signs of the rising tide of the age of enlightenment. From: Dick Mays dickmays@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Media coverage of TM new MUM press release  Fwd From: Ken Chawkin kchawkin@ You may have seen this story, but it's looking better each day! One of the lead rotating stories is on The Daily Beast website http://www.thedailybeast.com is on Transcendental Meditation. In the big box in the upper left corner of the home page, click on number 9 to see the coverage. The article appeared as a result of Rupert Murdoch learning to meditate last weekend. It was supposed to be private, but he tweeted about it so that's why it drew media attention. Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) http://thebea.st/0Pc6Y  via @thedailybeast Invision/AP; WireImage Celebs Who Meditate Transcendental Meditation made the rounds as far back as the Beatles, but it’s picking up steam again. From Rupert Murdoch to David Lynch, see the famous faces who say â€Åom.†Oprah More Stars Who Do Transcendental Meditation (PHOTOS) - The Daily Beast http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2013/04/23/oprah-more-stars-who-do-transcendental-meditation-photos.html#448ebbd1-03e5-4913-8673-cfa1da2e039a The Huffington Post: Rupert Murdoch Is Giving Transcendental Meditation A Try http://huff.to/17LsK0o via @HealthyLiving
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Share - Peter Mayer Holy Now (with lyrics in captions) - YouTube
Thanks, Rick it is so sweet and it was sweet to see you too and chat a little. Anyone ever tell you that you're a good listener (-: Anyway, I sent this to our mutual buddy in Vancouver. Yes, let's get Peter here! PS to mainstream: hi! From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Share - Peter Mayer Holy Now (with lyrics in captions) - YouTube Just ran into Share at the store and told her about this song. I think all will enjoy it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiypaURysz4
Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: LB Shriver our investors hope 4 its publication
From: wle...@aol.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: 4/24/2013 11:49:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LB Shriver our investors hope 4 its publication This conclusion of his book Re: Guru Dev is long awaited. I Wm Leed know of some 5 investors looking for its publication there as wel as my renumeration from the book sales. If he is short of funds I am able to again advance such as needed 4 the book completion. This in consert with two previous investors with L. B. Shriver. To my great regret I am NOT able to attend to hear him speak re the book. I hope some there would send here the gist or praises of his talk. Some of or even all of his investors will be most interested in this I feel this publication will be a most fitting memorial to his services not only in it long awaited publication if that is it but also for his all to short life here as shared by his friends, as well as those he has touched with his past writings in town. I regret he has chosen not to speak to me or allow me to interact with him of late perhaps he is not happy with his financial dealings with me some of his other investors. I hold NO grudges with him or to him. We will all be repaid next life time money in the bank I tell others, note we want him to succeed. Again 2 of us are presently willing to assist in supplying more dollars for it successful compleation memorial to him his life. Very best in all Bill Leed hoping some one may print this give it to him or bring up the subject so he may take advantage of our present offer. Any other investors may reach out to me so I may assist them ...US ALL ... to further our common aim hope of the books publication its success. A fine reflection of L. B's life with us. _wleed3@aol.com_ (mailto:wle...@aol.com) Best in all this L. B. In a message dated 4/23/2013 10:39:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com writes: Yep according to The Fairfield Weekly Reader, Mr. Shriver hopes to bring his notorious publication to a satisfactory state of completion and closure, beginning at 7:30pm. All are welcome. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: (The Fairfield Weekly Reader) LB Shriver to Speak at Revelations : Survival in Paradise -The Final Issue- will be the subject of live talk at Revelations, Weds., April 24. 7:30pm Thanks, Buck! That event was so buried in all the tiny print of the page that I would have totally missed it. I'm like totally there, dude! To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Muslim My Ass.....Need to read!!
NOT my heading but I did see strippers in The Lebanon Iraq Jordon as well as Egypt. From: fuller...@aol.com To: wle...@aol.com Sent: 4/24/2013 11:05:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Fwd: Muslim My Ass.Need to read!! -Original Message- From: Louis Bieronski ljpol...@hotmail.com To: alias123 alias...@ymail.com Sent: Wed, Apr 24, 2013 8:47 am Subject: FW: Muslim My Ass.Need to read!! Subject: Fwd: Muslim My Ass.Need to read!! To: Subject: FW: Muslim My Ass.Need to read!! Have you ever seen a Muslim hospital? Have you heard a Muslim orchestra? Have you seen a Muslim band march in a parade? Have you witnessed a Muslim charity? Have you shaken hands with a Muslim Girl Scout? Have you seen a Muslim Candy Striper? The answer is no, you have not. Just ask yourself WHY ??? Barack Obama, during his Cairo speech, said: I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America 's history. AN AMERICAN CITIZEN'S RESPONSE Dear Mr. Obama: Were those Muslims that were in America when the Pilgrims first landed? Funny, I thought they were Native American Indians. Were those Muslims that celebrated the first Thanksgiving day? Sorry again, those were Pilgrims and Native American Indians. Can you show me one Muslim signature on the: United States Constitution? Declaration of Independence ? Bill of Rights? Didn't think so. Did Muslims fight for this country's freedom from England ? No. Did Muslims fight during the Civil War to free the slaves in America ? No, they did not. In fact, Muslims to this day are still the largest traffickers in human slavery. Your own half-brother, a devout Muslim, still advocates slavery himself, even though Muslims of Arabic descent refer to black Muslims as pug nosed slaves. Says a lot of what the Muslim world really thinks of your family's rich Islamic heritage, doesn't it Mr. Obama? Where were Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this country? Not present. There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr. or helping to advance the cause of Civil Rights. Where were Muslims during this country's Woman's Suffrage era? Again, not present. In fact, devout Muslims demand that women are subservient to men in the Islamic culture. So much so, that often they are beaten for not wearing the 'hajib' or for talking to a man who is not a direct family member or their husband. Yep, the Muslims are all for women's rights, aren't they? Where were Muslims during World War II? They were aligned with Adolf Hitler. The Muslim grand mufti himself met with Adolf Hitler, reviewed the troops and accepted support from the Nazi's in killing Jews. Finally, Mr. Obama, where were Muslims on Sept. 11th, 2001? If they weren't flying planes into the World Trade Center , the Pentagon or a field in Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 people on our own soil, they were rejoicing in the Middle East . No one can dispute the pictures shown from all parts of the Muslim world celebrating on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and other cable news networks that day. Strangely, the very moderate Muslims who's asses you bent over backwards to kiss in Cairo, Egypt on June 4th were stone cold silent post 9-11. To many Americans, their silence has meant approval for the acts of that day. And THAT, Mr. Obama, is the rich heritage Muslims have here in America ... Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to mention the Barbary Pirates. They were Muslims. And now we can add November 5, 2009 - the slaughter of American soldiers at Fort Hood by a Muslim major who is a doctor and a psychiatrist who was supposed to be counseling soldiers returning from battle in Iraq and Afghanistan . That, Mr. Obama is the Muslim heritage in America EVERY AMERICAN MUST READ THIS !! Be sure to SEND IT TO ALL. Muslim Heritage, my ass. And if you don't share this message, you are part of the problem!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 20-Apr-13 00:15:02 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: (snip) BTW, an access number for that beautiful Jan 2012 poem from merudanda about Robin coming to FFL to heal is 302666. Thanks, I re read most of that post and it seems a long time ago; that was right after I stumbled onto FFL. It was also made the day after Robin had *left* FFL following Curtis's sadistic post to him about his Open Letter (not to return until the following June to deal with a hostile provocation from another non-well- wisher). If one actually reads *Robin's* earliest posts to FFL in June 2011 rather than the fantasies of others, he had not come here to heal but rather to give the healing he had very painfully accomplished on his own in the prior 25 years a sort of trial run. He left in January after having been rather brutally battered by some of the folks Ann goes on to describe as not getting him, whose instinct was to beat him up rather than make an effort to understand him or even just to let him do his thing. IMHO, the notion that Robin came to FFL to heal is simplistic and unobservant. Merudanda's intentions were of the best--not sentimental and smug as with some others (even passive-aggressive in some cases)--but he also missed the boat on what Robin was doing here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Source of the Sacred Ganges by William Dalrymple
I thought I had read all of my favorite travel-writer William Dalrymple's books from India. From which book is this Rick ? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: This was written by William Dalrymple, A British writer who lives in India and has written several award winning books about India. Source of the Sacred Ganges If you think it is cold now, said the holy man, you should see it in winter. Ram Sarandas and I were standing on the edge of the Ganges, not far from its source high in the Himalayas, near the Indian-Tibet border. It was May, but while in the plains the mercury was hitting close on 48 degrees, here at Cheerbasa a chill wind was blowing down from the snow peaks and I was shivering in my thermals. Ram Sarandas, however, was naked but for a saffron loincloth, and seemed completely immune to the icy winds. He stood in front of me smiling broadly, skin oiled and supple, his hair tangled in a mass of knotted dreadlocks. But even you can't live here in the winter, I said looking at the glacier glinting in the sun, only a mile down the valley. It must be completely cut off. It is, said Ram. From November to May the road is closed. Some years we get fourteen feet of snow here. So I stay in my hermitage, praying to Mother Ganga. Do you have electricity? Of course not. Just a petromax lamp. I eat dried fruit and in summer I dry green leaves and eat them as well. For sixteen years I have lived liked this. But what if you fall sick? In all these years I have never had any serious cold or fever. Don't you feel the cold? Yes! But I am used to it like the creatures and other wildlife here. I do my yoga for fourteen hours a day. But first, I take a dip in the Ganges, normally at 5 am. This sets me up for the day. A dip ? Even in winter? But isn't the Ganges frozen over? Yes, sometimes. But we cut a hole. The cold is good: it helps you concentrate more on what you want to achieve. It leads you more brightly into the path ahead. Ram paused and considered for a second. Only occasionally I have problems, he added. But then I am looked after. What do you mean? I asked. Once or twice I have taken a dip in the freezing waters, and I have stuck there, frozen to the ice. But something extraordinary happens: I have felt myself lifted by the waters. I was in the arms of the Mother Ganges, and it was Ganga herself who pulled me out, just like a mother. All the sadhus up here report the same thing. The River Goddess: she looks after us like a mother looks after her child. What Ram Das said was something I had heard again and again on my journey up the Ganges last summer to make a series, Indian Journeys, for the BBC. For Indians revere their rivers like no other nation, and of all river they revere the Ganges. According to Hindu theology, the Goddess Ganges - or Ganga as she is known in India - is the Mother Goddess of the whole Subcontinent. She is tangible, approachable and all accepting: distilled compassion in liquid form. As well as Ganga, Hindus have given the Goddess 107 other names: Daughter of the Himalaya, Cow Which Gives Much Milk, Having Beautiful Limbs, Eternally Pure, Light Amid the Darkness of Ignorance... Being brushed by a breeze containing even a drop of Ganges water is said to erase instantly all sins accumulated over a hundred lifetimes. According to the Agni Purana, written about 1,000 B.C, bathing in the waters of the Ganges is an experience similar to being in heaven. To die while being immersed in the Ganges results in moksha, final spiritual liberation. For this reason, Hindus from all over India try once in their lives to visit the Ganges and bathe in her waters. But the more hardy and devout make one more effort still. Although the entire river is held to be sacred, Hindus believe that its source is of an extra special sanctity. According to Hindu cosmography the source- the Cow's Mouth which lies hidden high in the Central Himalayas- is the most sacred place on earth. To visit it is the most auspicious act you can perform. So every summer, as the sun dries and desiccates the white-hot plains of India, a stream of pilgrims leave their farms and villages, pack their belongings into bound-up cloths, and plod their way up to Hardwar, where they bathe in the river. Most then return home. But a few, mainly sadhus (or wandering Holy Men), press on into the cool of the High Himalayas, taking the old pilgrim's route across the mountains to Gaumukh, the Cow's Mouth. The closer you get to the source, the more you find yourself surrounded by these sadhus. For years I had seen the holy men in my travels all over India and found them slightly menacing figures. But it was only seeing them in such numbers up in the wild Himalayas that made me realise
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: but but but, Judy, what about the Go to hell and bake bagels That seems like a curse to me! I'll assume you're just joking here. Â Anyway, in case it was to me, here's my reply: Bagels from hell with love, gluten free for thee and all that lies beneath your grateful belly button, etc. BTW I take everything everybody says and see how it fits with my own experience. So nobody really CONVINCES me of anything. Your self-report is duly noted. Whether it's accurate is another question. Let's just say you give every appearance of being easily swayed by those who purport to support you. As for your list of trustworthy people, I think all and all it's a really good list. But 1 or 2 people on that list often sound prejudiced against me. Yes, as I believe I said, some of us may give you a hard time now and then. I said you could trust us, not that we all thought you were a swell person (nor that we felt *we* could trust *you*, for that matter). Fine, it's their right, etc. But hopefully they'll understand why I then won't be giving their words on anything, much less on me, much credence as a result. By all means, shut out anything anyone says about you that's negative and dismiss it as prejudiced. (You might want to consult a good dictionary for the meaning of that term, BTW. I do not think it means what you think it means.) And I do realize that I might be sensitive about this so I do apologize if I'm misinterpreting someone about this. As best as I can, I resist getting sucked into the ongoing feud on FFL and I will continue to do this. I aim to take each post on its own merit, believing that people do change and grow in their ability to experience and express truth. Interesting that you believe you can change and grow in your ability to experience and express truth while dismissing without consideration anything negative about yourself as prejudice. Remember what I told you about being accountable for your behavior to the FFL community. You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. I suggest you drop the smug sense of superiority you exude when writing to Share. Share has more empathy, compassion, humor, and humility than you can even dream about. And if we are all accountable for our behavior to the FFL community, isn't it about time that we held YOU accountable for YOUR behavior? But having said that, I now mentally hear Xeno chuckling so I better shut up! From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ok, Judy I'm busted! That's what I get for being such a scaredy cat and not translating the Yiddish bellybutton sutra til just now. Anyway, I was scratching my head, wondering why you mentioned bellybutton in a later post. Mystery solved! Yes, well, you learned a little something about yourself, about me, and maybe even about your purported supporters, who apparently managed to convince you of something they knew wasn't true--that I had melted down and been reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults because I was jealous of you (??) and furious that you refused to interact with me (???). As with your friend who made up a story about my friendship with Robin being based on despising Barry, you might want to think twice before trusting in these well wishers again. Bottom line, there are people on FFL you can trust, and those you can't. The former include (but are not necessarily limited to) Alex, sparaig, doctordumbass, Bhairitu, salyavin, laughinggull, Xeno, Ann, Emily, raunchy, and me. Some of us may give you a hard time now and then, and sometimes we make inadvertent mistakes, but we'll never lie to you or try to mislead you. (And if we use irony, it isn't intended to confuse you; we expect you to get it.) Just for the record, BTW, there's no such thing as a bad transliteration of Yiddish in anything but a formal context (as Barry knows). Many Yiddish words can be and are spelled multiple ways (e.g., tukas, tukus, tucas, tucus, tochis, toches, tochas, tochus, tuchas, tuches, tuchis). Often a particular spelling reflects a regional pronunciation. Sometimes a word has come to be spelled a particular way by custom, and it's spelled like that in formal contexts even though it doesn't follow the approved scholarly transliteration system. Another reason there are so many variant spellings in Yiddish is that while the language is primarily a combination of Hebrew and medieval German, it also has
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Share - Peter Mayer Holy Now (with lyrics in captions) - YouTube
Great song, great sentiment. I sometimes feel for those who feel that the only holy things are the ones they've been told are holy. Sometimes I think that the only things on this planet that *aren't* holy are the people saying that some things aren't. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Just ran into Share at the store and told her about this song. I think all will enjoy it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiypaURysz4
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Source of the Sacred Ganges by William Dalrymple
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:11 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Source of the Sacred Ganges by William Dalrymple I thought I had read all of my favorite travel-writer William Dalrymple's books from India. From which book is this Rick ? Don't know. Someone sent it to me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote: This was written by William Dalrymple, A British writer who lives in India and has written several award winning books about India. Source of the Sacred Ganges If you think it is cold now, said the holy man, you should see it in winter. Ram Sarandas and I were standing on the edge of the Ganges, not far from its source high in the Himalayas, near the Indian-Tibet border. It was May, but while in the plains the mercury was hitting close on 48 degrees, here at Cheerbasa a chill wind was blowing down from the snow peaks and I was shivering in my thermals. Ram Sarandas, however, was naked but for a saffron loincloth, and seemed completely immune to the icy winds. He stood in front of me smiling broadly, skin oiled and supple, his hair tangled in a mass of knotted dreadlocks. But even you can't live here in the winter, I said looking at the glacier glinting in the sun, only a mile down the valley. It must be completely cut off. It is, said Ram. From November to May the road is closed. Some years we get fourteen feet of snow here. So I stay in my hermitage, praying to Mother Ganga. Do you have electricity? Of course not. Just a petromax lamp. I eat dried fruit and in summer I dry green leaves and eat them as well. For sixteen years I have lived liked this. But what if you fall sick? In all these years I have never had any serious cold or fever. Don't you feel the cold? Yes! But I am used to it like the creatures and other wildlife here. I do my yoga for fourteen hours a day. But first, I take a dip in the Ganges, normally at 5 am. This sets me up for the day. A dip ? Even in winter? But isn't the Ganges frozen over? Yes, sometimes. But we cut a hole. The cold is good: it helps you concentrate more on what you want to achieve. It leads you more brightly into the path ahead. Ram paused and considered for a second. Only occasionally I have problems, he added. But then I am looked after. What do you mean? I asked. Once or twice I have taken a dip in the freezing waters, and I have stuck there, frozen to the ice. But something extraordinary happens: I have felt myself lifted by the waters. I was in the arms of the Mother Ganges, and it was Ganga herself who pulled me out, just like a mother. All the sadhus up here report the same thing. The River Goddess: she looks after us like a mother looks after her child. What Ram Das said was something I had heard again and again on my journey up the Ganges last summer to make a series, Indian Journeys, for the BBC. For Indians revere their rivers like no other nation, and of all river they revere the Ganges. According to Hindu theology, the Goddess Ganges - or Ganga as she is known in India - is the Mother Goddess of the whole Subcontinent. She is tangible, approachable and all accepting: distilled compassion in liquid form. As well as Ganga, Hindus have given the Goddess 107 other names: Daughter of the Himalaya, Cow Which Gives Much Milk, Having Beautiful Limbs, Eternally Pure, Light Amid the Darkness of Ignorance... Being brushed by a breeze containing even a drop of Ganges water is said to erase instantly all sins accumulated over a hundred lifetimes. According to the Agni Purana, written about 1,000 B.C, bathing in the waters of the Ganges is an experience similar to being in heaven. To die while being immersed in the Ganges results in moksha, final spiritual liberation. For this reason, Hindus from all over India try once in their lives to visit the Ganges and bathe in her waters. But the more hardy and devout make one more effort still. Although the entire river is held to be sacred, Hindus believe that its source is of an extra special sanctity. According to Hindu cosmography the source- the Cow's Mouth which lies hidden high in the Central Himalayas- is the most sacred place on earth. To visit it is the most auspicious act you can perform. So every summer, as the sun dries and desiccates the white-hot plains of India, a stream of pilgrims leave their farms and villages, pack their belongings into bound-up cloths, and plod their way up to Hardwar, where they bathe in the river. Most then return home. But a few, mainly sadhus (or wandering Holy Men), press on into the cool of the High Himalayas, taking the old pilgrim's route across the mountains
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Share - Peter Mayer Holy Now (with lyrics in captions) - YouTube
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of turquoiseb Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:02 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Share - Peter Mayer Holy Now (with lyrics in captions) - YouTube Great song, great sentiment. I sometimes feel for those who feel that the only holy things are the ones they've been told are holy. Sometimes I think that the only things on this planet that *aren't* holy are the people saying that some things aren't. And even they're holy, although maybe not in the way or to the degree they may think they are. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote: Just ran into Share at the store and told her about this song. I think all will enjoy it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiypaURysz4
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 20-Apr-13 00:15:02 UTC
Ann: there are two kinds of people when it comes to Robin; those that 'get' him and those that simply will never get past a combination of puzzlement and reaction to him. Share to Ann: I usually question such a polarizing idea. I don't think such polarities serve the well being of anyone, especially the one about whom they are spoken. They imply an us and them, just for starters. And as the words puzzlement and reaction carry somewhat negative connotations, then it is implied that those who aren't in this category, that is, those who get him are the ones in the positive realm in this context. Along with this is the idea that Robin is unique. But since we all are, maybe what you're saying is that he is especially unique, more unique than the rest of us, or unique in a better way? But again, I wonder if such labels, especially if they go unchallenged, I wonder if they really serve the well being of anyone, including the one to whom they are applied. As for willingness to take life's ride, I'm content to let my unfolding track record here speak for me. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 20-Apr-13 00:15:02 UTC --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, I admit I chuckled when you say below that my description sounds contradictory and then you say that Robin is very certain within his uncertainty. I conclude that we both understand paradox. Perhaps a sort of paradox but also a sort of duality where he remains constantly open to new input (so in a way he is illustrating a kind of uncertainness) and is merely certain that he has to be this way -open to the feedback of life. It is a state of constant movement as I see it although the perceiver himself can remain still but keeps the gate open for constant feedback from the outside (and inside). That feedback back and forth from perceiver to environment, environment to perceiver is the flow, the movement. A while ago Robin told Curtis that he wants a reconciliation with me and I also want a reconciliation between us. But neither of us appreciates how the other person apologizes so I'm not sure how that would work! Nonetheless I remain available for and open to reconciliation and THAT is the action I do beyond wishing Robin happiness and well being. I stay engaged with him whereas he was the one who disengaged from our last exchange. Fine, his right to do so, etc., and perhaps that is his way of reconciling. I think we're both doing our best. Though Robin did say something recently about wanting more development so probably he disagrees with this. I asked him about it but he disengaged without replying. Anyway, it just might be as I was saying to Robin towards the end of our interactions last year: that we're simply two people too different from one another to have a viable friendship. I think that you have hit upon something that is true here, or could be. In my experience there are two kinds of people when it comes to Robin; those that 'get' him and those that simply will never get past a combination of puzzlement and reaction to him. It is as if he lives on this slightly different frequency where if you venture there you are either discombobulated and can't exit fast enough or you look around and sort of wonder at it all while at the same time appreciating the slight strangeness of it. It can cause you to have to move a little further into areas you are not used to exploring. That doesn't mean I always agree or even understand what it means to 'get to' where Robin functions from but it is unique.  Perhaps we've come to this understanding each on our own and a reconciliation of sorts already exists! That's a good way to look at it. Perhaps the reconciliation isn't happening BETWEEN the two of you but within, individually, each one of you so it is finished on some level - at least on that other subject. And there simply may not be the opportunity or means for this to happen in the future anyway so you are going to have to accept that as it is now, is how it has to be until if and when you can communicate again and that communication may never touch upon this particular subject - directly - again. This reply is very different from the reply I wrote 2 days ago. But it is an expression of my thoughts and feelings now. Just as last year my various so called discrepancies were expressions of my thoughts and feelings as I rode out a very challenging experience and came to different insights about it. So much so that even recently when Robin was attributing thoughts and feelings to me that I wasn't having, it didn't bother me. So in this sense, there has been change I think, and positive change at that. But I could be wrong and am confident
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
Lawson! Really?! Fully enlightened and able to fool one's self?! Maybe by fully enlightened you mean CC only? I don't see how a person in UC or Brahman could possibly fool themselves. Ok, maybe Nisargadatta fooled himself about the dangers of smoking cigarettes. Anyway, can you give an example? Thanks. From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras Sure. My point is that just because some theoretical state of consciousness brings with it total honesty, doesn't mean that that is really the case. I can conceive of situations where one might be fully enlightened according to some aspect of the TM definition, and still be fooling themselves. Of course, if you define enlightenment as never fooling yourself, then this doesn't make sense. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Lawson, couldn't they be having an internal dialogue and be witnessing it, not identifying with it, not being gripped by it? Something along those lines. From: sparaig LEnglish5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras  We all tell ourselves lies. Even fully enlightened people likely lie to themselves, but since they allegedly no longer have an internal dialogue, they can't catch their own lies because they appear to be intuitive truths. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am simply unafraid of the truth. But you like most extremists can't stand the truth. I was a real TM true believer and became unafraid to look clearly with no blinders on at Marshy, TMO and TM itself. I didn't like what I found, but dealing with the truth is better than continuing to tell myself lies. From: srijau@ srijau@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras  you have shown time and again here that you use any occasion to make the most extremist statement, and a good deal of plain nonsense too. So I doubt any careful observer cares much anymore.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Muslim My Ass.....Need to read!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@... wrote: NOT my heading but I did see strippers in The Lebanon Iraq Jordon as well as Egypt. Native Americans were celebrating the first Thanksgiving? Not many more after that I'll wager From: fuller791@... To: wleed3@... Sent: 4/24/2013 11:05:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Fwd: Muslim My Ass.Need to read!! -Original Message- From: Louis Bieronski ljpolski@... To: alias123 alias123@... Sent: Wed, Apr 24, 2013 8:47 am Subject: FW: Muslim My Ass.Need to read!! Subject: Fwd: Muslim My Ass.Need to read!! To: Subject: FW: Muslim My Ass.Need to read!! Have you ever seen a Muslim hospital? Have you heard a Muslim orchestra? Have you seen a Muslim band march in a parade? Have you witnessed a Muslim charity? Have you shaken hands with a Muslim Girl Scout? Have you seen a Muslim Candy Striper? The answer is no, you have not. Just ask yourself WHY ??? Barack Obama, during his Cairo speech, said: I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America 's history. AN AMERICAN CITIZEN'S RESPONSE Dear Mr. Obama: Were those Muslims that were in America when the Pilgrims first landed? Funny, I thought they were Native American Indians. Were those Muslims that celebrated the first Thanksgiving day? Sorry again, those were Pilgrims and Native American Indians. Can you show me one Muslim signature on the: United States Constitution? Declaration of Independence ? Bill of Rights? Didn't think so. Did Muslims fight for this country's freedom from England ? No. Did Muslims fight during the Civil War to free the slaves in America ? No, they did not. In fact, Muslims to this day are still the largest traffickers in human slavery. Your own half-brother, a devout Muslim, still advocates slavery himself, even though Muslims of Arabic descent refer to black Muslims as pug nosed slaves. Says a lot of what the Muslim world really thinks of your family's rich Islamic heritage, doesn't it Mr. Obama? Where were Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this country? Not present. There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr. or helping to advance the cause of Civil Rights. Where were Muslims during this country's Woman's Suffrage era? Again, not present. In fact, devout Muslims demand that women are subservient to men in the Islamic culture. So much so, that often they are beaten for not wearing the 'hajib' or for talking to a man who is not a direct family member or their husband. Yep, the Muslims are all for women's rights, aren't they? Where were Muslims during World War II? They were aligned with Adolf Hitler. The Muslim grand mufti himself met with Adolf Hitler, reviewed the troops and accepted support from the Nazi's in killing Jews. Finally, Mr. Obama, where were Muslims on Sept. 11th, 2001? If they weren't flying planes into the World Trade Center , the Pentagon or a field in Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 people on our own soil, they were rejoicing in the Middle East . No one can dispute the pictures shown from all parts of the Muslim world celebrating on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and other cable news networks that day. Strangely, the very moderate Muslims who's asses you bent over backwards to kiss in Cairo, Egypt on June 4th were stone cold silent post 9-11. To many Americans, their silence has meant approval for the acts of that day. And THAT, Mr. Obama, is the rich heritage Muslims have here in America ... Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to mention the Barbary Pirates. They were Muslims. And now we can add November 5, 2009 - the slaughter of American soldiers at Fort Hood by a Muslim major who is a doctor and a psychiatrist who was supposed to be counseling soldiers returning from battle in Iraq and Afghanistan . That, Mr. Obama is the Muslim heritage in America EVERY AMERICAN MUST READ THIS !! Be sure to SEND IT TO ALL. Muslim Heritage, my ass. And if you don't share this message, you are part of the problem!
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: but but but, Judy, what about the Go to hell and bake bagels That seems like a curse to me! I'll assume you're just joking here. Â Anyway, in case it was to me, here's my reply: Bagels from hell with love, gluten free for thee and all that lies beneath your grateful belly button, etc. BTW I take everything everybody says and see how it fits with my own experience. So nobody really CONVINCES me of anything. Your self-report is duly noted. Whether it's accurate is another question. Let's just say you give every appearance of being easily swayed by those who purport to support you. As for your list of trustworthy people, I think all and all it's a really good list. But 1 or 2 people on that list often sound prejudiced against me. Yes, as I believe I said, some of us may give you a hard time now and then. I said you could trust us, not that we all thought you were a swell person (nor that we felt *we* could trust *you*, for that matter). Fine, it's their right, etc. But hopefully they'll understand why I then won't be giving their words on anything, much less on me, much credence as a result. By all means, shut out anything anyone says about you that's negative and dismiss it as prejudiced. (You might want to consult a good dictionary for the meaning of that term, BTW. I do not think it means what you think it means.) And I do realize that I might be sensitive about this so I do apologize if I'm misinterpreting someone about this. As best as I can, I resist getting sucked into the ongoing feud on FFL and I will continue to do this. I aim to take each post on its own merit, believing that people do change and grow in their ability to experience and express truth. Interesting that you believe you can change and grow in your ability to experience and express truth while dismissing without consideration anything negative about yourself as prejudice. Remember what I told you about being accountable for your behavior to the FFL community. You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) I suggest you drop the smug sense of superiority you exude when writing to Share. Share has more empathy, compassion, humor, and humility than you can even dream about. I would far rather be a pompous, finger-wagging ass than a person overflowing with empathy, compassion, humor, and humility that are phonier than a three-dollar bill, at least as she shows up on FFL. And if we are all accountable for our behavior to the FFL community, isn't it about time that we held YOU accountable for YOUR behavior? You're missing the context of what I told her. Yes, of course I'm accountable in exactly the same way she is, which means I don't get to counter negative impressions of my behavior from folks in the FFL community by protesting that people who have known me for many years offline think of me differently and that FFL members don't know me as I really am. For the full context, see posts 340145 and 340163. They aren't long. Then maybe you can make sense of my response above to Share's claim that some FFLers are prejudiced against her so she's just going to ignore anything negative they say to or about her.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 20-Apr-13 00:15:02 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann: there are two kinds of people when it comes to Robin; those that 'get' him and those that simply will never get past a combination of puzzlement and reaction to him. Share to Ann: I usually question such a polarizing idea. I don't think such polarities serve the well being of anyone, especially the one about whom they are spoken. They imply an us and them, just for starters. And as the words puzzlement and reaction carry somewhat negative connotations, then it is implied that those who aren't in this category, that is, those who get him are the ones in the positive realm in this context. I'll comment on this, because it's one of the most commonly-pushed-out pathologies on Fairfield Life. I think that what Ann means by getting Robin is accepting his descriptions of himself and his moti- vations at face value and agreeing with them. That's not getting someone; that's being their toady. Not to mention gullible. FFL is rife with this kind of thinking, that if someone disagrees with how a person sees themselves, and proposes a different way of seeing that person, the one doing this is lying or malevolent or has a hidden agenda. Nonsense. All that is happening is that someone is viewing a person differently than they like to view themselves. Some can handle this gracefully, and others...uh... can't. They write long diatribes trying to demon- ize the people who see them differently than they see themselves, or instigate vendettas against those who see them differently, and try to urge others to see *them* as malevolent or liars or whatever. It's an evil act, and a really dumb one. I'm still surprised that anyone here falls for it, but then I'm still surprised by many things here. In my opinion, NO ONE'S view of themselves is accurate, let alone a reflection of reality. It's just the way they like to see themselves and think of themselves and, if they're as full of self-importance and ego as some of our members here, try to get others to see them that way, too. What a waste of time and life.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Last edition: 'survival in paradise' with LB shriver 7:30pm Revelations bookstore wed April 24th
Any chance it can be videoed and put on youtube.com? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: hi friends, LB will be giving a talk Last edition: survival in paradise 7:30pm wed April 24 at Revelations bookstoreplease plan to be on time! all blessings, jennifer
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendentalism
In a polycentric world Coming to meditation and large groups of people meditating, Whether diplomacy between 1900 and 1914 resembles diplomacy today: .. I mean, I must say I was struck by the opposite insight, namely that it seems to me that our world is getting more like 1914, not less like it. You know, we're just starting to come to terms with the fact that we're no longer in a world that is disciplined by the standoff between two nuclear hyperpowers. And what we're drifting back into now is a polycentric world with many potential sources of conflict. So in some ways, our world is drifting back towards 1914, even if the ocean of time between us and the First World War gets larger and larger. A Christian fundamentalist was once conversing with the noted India spiritual teacher, J. Krishnamurti. The more I listen to you, the more convinced I am that you must be an atheist, the fundamentalist said. I used to be an atheist, Krishnamurti replied, until I realized that I was God. The fundamentalist was shocked. Are you denying the divinity of Jesus Christ? Krishnamurti shrugged. I've never denied anyone their divinity. Why would I do it to Jesus Christ?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Last edition: 'survival in paradise' with LB shriver 7:30pm Revelations bookstore wed April 24th
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:22 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Last edition: 'survival in paradise' with LB shriver 7:30pm Revelations bookstore wed April 24th Any chance it can be videoed and put on youtube.com? I'll ask. Someone videotaped the last one. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote: hi friends, LB will be giving a talk Last edition: survival in paradise 7:30pm wed April 24 at Revelations bookstoreplease plan to be on time! all blessings, jennifer
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 20-Apr-13 00:15:02 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann: there are two kinds of people when it comes to Robin; those that 'get' him and those that simply will never get past a combination of puzzlement and reaction to him. Share to Ann: I usually question such a polarizing idea. I don't think such polarities serve the well being of anyone, especially the one about whom they are spoken. They imply an us and them, just for starters. And as the words puzzlement and reaction carry somewhat negative connotations, then it is implied that those who aren't in this category, that is, those who get him are the ones in the positive realm in this context.   No, no. I think you are misinterpreting what I am saying here. I put absolutely no value judgement either on Robin or on those who either 'get' him or don't 'get' him. But just for one moment, think even about what has happened here at FFL. There don't seem to be too many people who hold a middle ground with regard to him. You have those who revile him and those who like and support him pretty strongly. That has, on one level, nothing to do with him. It has to do people and how they perceive and react; it is their own subjectivity that determines how they end of feeling, irrespective of Robin. In no way am I saying because I feel I 'get' Robin more than I don't 'get' him that I am better, smarter, superior or different than those who find him pedantic, long-winded, boring, insane or deluded. I am not attempting to create sides or polarities here. I am merely stating what I have noticed in the over 30 years I have known/known of him. It is an observation, not a judgement call. Along with this is the idea that Robin is unique. But since we all are, maybe what you're saying is that he is especially unique, more unique than the rest of us, or unique in a better way? But again, I wonder if such labels, especially if they go unchallenged, I wonder if they really serve the well being of anyone, including the one to whom they are applied. I think Robin is not more or less unique than anyone else. We are all individuals. I can find him irksome, infuriating, interesting, strange and many other things just as I can feel this with other people but perhaps for other reasons. Share is Share, Ann is Ann and Robin is Robin. Some like you or me or him more or less than other people like you or me or him. That doesn't make us anything; we remain who we are and how others see us will vary from individual to individual. And that neither makes any of us better or more unique than the other. So again, I make no value judgement on 'quality' of uniqueness with regard to Robin (or you or me). As for willingness to take life's ride, I'm content to let my unfolding track record here speak for me. I made no value judgement on your ability to let life take you for a ride. Some of us go more willingly than others, that was what I was saying. My reference to heels in the dirt was an image of being dragged backwards unwillingly creating heel marks in the ground. God knows I have dug my heels in enough in my lifetime - there are drag marks all over this planet from where I've been. Thanks for your thoughts. This has been worthwhile for me. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 20-Apr-13 00:15:02 UTC  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann, I admit I chuckled when you say below that my description sounds contradictory and then you say that Robin is very certain within his uncertainty.àI conclude that we both understand paradox. Perhaps a sort of paradox but also a sort of duality where he remains constantly open to new input (so in a way he is illustrating a kind of uncertainness) and is merely certain that he has to be this way -open to the feedback of life. It is a state of constant movement as I see it although the perceiver himself can remain still but keeps the gate open for constant feedback from the outside (and inside). That feedback back and forth from perceiver to environment, environment to perceiver is the flow, the movement. A while ago Robin told Curtis that he wants a reconciliation with me and I also want a reconciliation between us.àBut neither of us appreciates how the other person apologizes so I'm not sure how that would work! Nonetheless I remain available for and open to reconciliation and THAT is the action I do beyond wishing Robin happiness and well being.àI stay engaged with him whereas he was the one who disengaged from our last exchange.àFine, his right to do so, etc., and perhaps that is his way of reconciling.àI think we're both doing our best.àThough Robin did say something recently
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 20-Apr-13 00:15:02 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann: there are two kinds of people when it comes to Robin; those that 'get' him and those that simply will never get past a combination of puzzlement and reaction to him. Share to Ann: I usually question such a polarizing idea. I don't think such polarities serve the well being of anyone, especially the one about whom they are spoken. They imply an us and them, just for starters. And as the words puzzlement and reaction carry somewhat negative connotations, then it is implied that those who aren't in this category, that is, those who get him are the ones in the positive realm in this context. I'll comment on this, because it's one of the most commonly-pushed-out pathologies on Fairfield Life. I think that what Ann means by getting Robin is accepting his descriptions of himself and his moti- vations at face value and agreeing with them. Wow. Barry sure got this embarrassingly wrong, didn't he? That's not getting someone; that's being their toady. Not to mention gullible. Now, if this isn't an amazing assertion. The only way, as far as Barry is concerned, for one to avoid being a gullible toady is to *disagree* with a person's self-descriptions and motivations. FFL is rife with this kind of thinking, that if someone disagrees with how a person sees themselves, and proposes a different way of seeing that person, the one doing this is lying or malevolent or has a hidden agenda. I don't recall Ann ever saying anything like that, do you? However, sometimes folks who say they're just proposing a different way (always negative, BTW) of seeing a person *are* malevolent and/or *do* have a hidden agenda (although it's usually pretty obvious what their agenda is). And they may well be lying if they justify this different way by supplying descriptions of the person that are at odds with the facts. Nonsense. All that is happening is that someone is viewing a person differently than they like to view themselves. Some can handle this gracefully, and others...uh... can't. They write long diatribes trying to demon- ize the people who see them differently than they see themselves, or instigate vendettas against those who see them differently, and try to urge others to see *them* as malevolent or liars or whatever. The way Barry does, in other words. The way Barry is doing in this very post. (Remember what I said this morning about Barry's projections of his own behavior onto others?) It's an evil act, and a really dumb one. I'm still surprised that anyone here falls for it, but then I'm still surprised by many things here. In my opinion, NO ONE'S view of themselves is accurate, let alone a reflection of reality. It's just the way they like to see themselves and think of themselves and, if they're as full of self-importance and ego as some of our members here, try to get others to see them that way, too. What a waste of time and life.
[FairfieldLife] What's Wrong with this Picture?
For the movie buffs in the group, here's an iconic picture of Marilyn Monroe in a powder room of a bygone era. But something is oddly out of place. http://shine.yahoo.com/photos/woman-time-travels-iconic-scenes-slideshow/#crsl=%252Fphotos%252Fwoman-time-travels-iconic-scenes-slideshow%252F-photo-2615669-174300107.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
the hurler of curses and insults spinning truth as though it is a dreidel fails again and again succeeds only in revealing inner darkness poisoned words from disturbed mind earth day echoes in native nebraskan's consciousness arbor day planting day after next desert willow- chilopsis linearis while mindful of grateful dead scarlet begonias earworm and i knew without asking she was into the blues soft smile dreams of lush lawns as owls converse too pat to open and too cool to bluff --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Earth Day is ending, the lawn of my lady-parts is still not green. Has J's curse gone astray, dear grey? From: azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 6:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: what a Sunday on FFL  Dear Share, Google has a full translation function. I'm not sure that the Jerseyese section contains all of the dialects as what I came up with is she either wants to preform sanyama on your lawn or is expressing an unnatural interest in the operation of your lady-parts. Alex might be able to help as he seen to be a native speaker. He might have to first get a refill on his ointment. Hugs, azgrey --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Share, are you familiar with the expression Blow it out your ass? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, your biases are noted. As is your continuing self delusion about the presence of those biases and your ongoing inability to see more complete truth much less express it. (snip) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: (snip) from Judy, best expression of her *hypochondria:àI'm allergic to dishonesty. (snip) *hypochondria n. The persistent conviction that one is or is likely to become ill, often involving symptoms when illness is neither present nor likely, Says the person who has to her discredit an *astounding* number of examples of the most flagrant dishonesty--most recently her combined smear of raunchy and Robin today-- including rewriting history as documented by *her own posts*, and who has been unable either to explain away the dishonesty or acknowledge it. (And by the way, the symptoms of allergy *are* the illness.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 20-Apr-13 00:15:02 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann: there are two kinds of people when it comes to Robin; those that 'get' him and those that simply will never get past a combination of puzzlement and reaction to him. Share to Ann: I usually question such a polarizing idea. I don't think such polarities serve the well being of anyone, especially the one about whom they are spoken. They imply an us and them, just for starters. And as the words puzzlement and reaction carry somewhat negative connotations, then it is implied that those who aren't in this category, that is, those who get him are the ones in the positive realm in this context. I'll comment on this, because it's one of the most commonly-pushed-out pathologies on Fairfield Life. I think that what Ann means by getting Robin is accepting his descriptions of himself and his moti- vations at face value and agreeing with them. Wow. Barry sure got this embarrassingly wrong, didn't he? That's not getting someone; that's being their toady. Not to mention gullible. Now, if this isn't an amazing assertion. The only way, as far as Barry is concerned, for one to avoid being a gullible toady is to *disagree* with a person's self-descriptions and motivations. FFL is rife with this kind of thinking, that if someone disagrees with how a person sees themselves, and proposes a different way of seeing that person, the one doing this is lying or malevolent or has a hidden agenda. I don't recall Ann ever saying anything like that, do you? However, sometimes folks who say they're just proposing a different way (always negative, BTW) of seeing a person *are* malevolent and/or *do* have a hidden agenda (although it's usually pretty obvious what their agenda is). And they may well be lying if they justify this different way by supplying descriptions of the person that are at odds with the facts. Nonsense. All that is happening is that someone is viewing a person differently than they like to view themselves. Some can handle this gracefully, and others...uh... can't. They write long diatribes trying to demon- ize the people who see them differently than they see themselves, or instigate vendettas against those who see them differently, and try to urge others to see *them* as malevolent or liars or whatever. The way Barry does, in other words. The way Barry is doing in this very post. (Remember what I said this morning about Barry's projections of his own behavior onto others?) Well, at least you ate your Cheerios this morning. I simply don't have the time, the stomach or the energy to even begin to deal with Barry's dreck. He is absolutely proving true what I said yesterday: he is never interested in mediating, clarifying any truth or making something good out of something else. He could take an angel food cake and turn it into smegma. It's an evil act, and a really dumb one. I'm still surprised that anyone here falls for it, but then I'm still surprised by many things here. In my opinion, NO ONE'S view of themselves is accurate, let alone a reflection of reality. It's just the way they like to see themselves and think of themselves and, if they're as full of self-importance and ego as some of our members here, try to get others to see them that way, too. What a waste of time and life.
[FairfieldLife] New papers on TM for lowering hypertension and Post-Traumatic Stress symptoms
From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:36 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: New papers on TM for lowering hypertension and Post-Traumatic Stress symptoms Dear Colleagues, Here is a newly reported scientific statement from the American Heart Association recommending TM practice for hypertension, and a new paper reporting that the practice is effective in reducing post-traumatic stress symptoms in Congolese refugees. 1. TM recommended for hypertension by the American Heart Association. An estimated 29% of American adults suffer from hypertension and it is projected to affect 1.5 billion people by 2025. It accounts for 13.5% of all deaths and half of all strokes and ischemic heart disease. The global hypertension-related public health burden is enormous.1 The American Heart Association just published a scientific statement on alternative approaches to reducing blood pressure, which included a critical evaluation of research on meditation techniques, including the Transcendental Meditation technique (TM). 1 Here is what they said about the TM technique and other meditation practices: * TM may be considered in clinical practice to lower BP. * Because of many negative studies or mixed results and a paucity of available trials, all other meditation techniques (including MBSR) received a Class III, no benefit, Level of Evidence C recommendation . * Thus, other meditation techniques are not recommended in clinical practice to lower BP at this time. MBSR refers to Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction. Here is a link to the full report. http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/04/22/HYP.0b013e318293645f.f ull.pdf+html?sid=0aea85a1-f240-4b68-8174-07ecc3e2cfec 2. TM reduces PTSD symptoms in Congolese refugees. The Second Congo War killed 5.4 million people and forced an estimated 80,000 refugees to flee. A new controlled study published in the Journal of Traumatic Stress of Congolese refugees in a camp near Kampala, Uganda found that TM practice markedly reduced post-traumatic stress symptoms from the severe level to the normal level at the one month and 4.5 month posttests.2 Abstract: This matched single-blind pilot study tested the effect of Transcendental Meditation R [1] (TM) practice on symptoms of posttraumatic stress (PTS) in Congolese refugees. Urban refugees (N = 102) staying around Kampala, Uganda attended introductory meetings. After initial random assignment to the TM group, 30 refugees who revealed that they were unable to attend all meetings were eliminated from the study. The remaining 21 TM group participants were then instructed in TM and matched with refugees in the control group on age, sex, and baseline scores on the Post-traumatic Stress Disorder Checklist-Civilian (PCL-C). All participants completed the PCL-C measure of PTS symptoms at baseline, and 30-day and 135-day posttests. The PCL-C scores in the control group trended upward. In contrast, the PCL-C scores in the TM group went from 65 on average at baseline indicating severe PTS symptoms to below 30 on average after 30 days of TM practice, and remained low at 135 days. Effect size was high (d 1.0). Compliance with TM practice was good; most reported regular practice throughout the study. There were no adverse events. All refugees who learned TM completed the study and were able to practice TM successfully, with subsequent substantial reduction in PTS symptoms. 1. Brook RD, Appel LJ, Rubenfire M, et al. Beyond medications and diet: Alternative approaches to lowering blood pressure : A scientific statement from the American Heart Association. Hypertension: Journal of the American Heart Association. 2013(61). 2. Rees B, Travis F, Shapiro D, Chant R. Reduction in post traumatic stress symptoms in Congolese refugees practicing Transcendental Meditation. Journal of Traumatic Stress. 2013:1-14. All the best, David David W. Orme-Johnson, PhD - From October to April 191 Dalton Dr., Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459 From May to September 1100 University Manor Dr., # 15B, Fairfield, Iowa, 52556 (850) 231-2866 (Home) (850) 830-5847 (Mobile) Skype: davidoj108 davi...@earthlink.net mailto:davi...@earthlink.net www.TruthAboutTM.com http://www.truthabouttm.com/ www.Orme-JohnsonPaintings.com http://www.orme-johnsonpaintings.com/ image003.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Interesting thing about being triggered. There is both a spectrum of responses, and a continuum of attachment, wrt being triggered. The more that one is unattached to being triggered, the response is done as soon as it is expressed. However, if there is a strong localized me, the [triggered] response is held onto, and judged, questioned, in terms of the more localized and more identified me. It becomes an entire drama, based on the more localized identity. There is really nothing wrong with reacting to any stimulus, small or large, as appropriate for the moment; being triggered. There is also no solution to be found, by questioning our reaction to something. The solution is to keep being ourselves, and reacting as appropriate, and continue to moderate our response, or at least have the choice to so so, as we ever expand our awareness [which of course means letting any current identity go]. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Wong you Wascally Wabbit, Doc! I said floats yer boat echoing what turq had said to me and OMMV because he often says YMMV. Unless I'm very triggered, I don't even think thoughts like your door phrase below. YMMV (-: From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL  Share, He trots this little drama out from time to time, when he becomes overwrought by his inability to interact gracefully on FFL. No need to fret, I assure you. He needs this place like a Turquoise Bee needs honey. However on second read, your reply does sound a bit like, sorry to see you go, but don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: well turq I would miss you if you stopped posting here but OMMV and obviously you must do whatever floats yer boat (-: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear my turqish delight and Ann who was looking forward to this reply. BTW Ann, I have another in the queue 4 u. Anyway, turq, thank you because my feelings were hurt when you gave all those kudos to Curtis and Steve yesterday. That's called 'ego,' otherwise known as 'self-importance.' You'll get over it. Either that, or you won't. :-) But I think I've learned a thing or two here at the Funny Farm Lounge so I simply enjoyed myself, hopefully not being mean spirited in the process and Bob's your uncle! Here we are! If you're saying that I shouldn't let them matter to me in an unhealthy way, then I totally agree with you. But turq, I gotta let them matter to me, you know, in a healthy way, even if I don't like how they're acting. If you feel that you have so much time remaining in your life that you feel OK spending it interacting with people who are only trying to set you up for the next time they can vent their own unhappiness on you and yell at you, so be it. You *know* in advance that this is what is going to happen. So if you continue to interact with them, some part of you *enjoys* being yelled at. Cool, I guess. Some people enjoy being tied up and whipped, or engaging in orgies with dwarves and small rodents. It's an odd planet, and there is room for pretty much any kind of kinkiness. :-) I think it might be my biggest life lesson, whatever the heck that is! In this project, FFL is a great classroom, wicked grin. As I said, whatever floats yer boat. Better you wasting your time with these people than me. Hope your project is on schedule, going well, being fun, etc. All of the above. Paris has been an utter delight, both at work and away from it. The contrast it provides to FFL and the normal conversations here makes me feel less and less like being here. To be perfectly honest, the grittiest banlieus (urban slums) of Paris are often more high-vibe. I'm not knocking your decision to keep interacting with people who you *know* intend you ill, and are only feign- ing civility in between yelling at you, hoping that *either* of these tactics will tempt you into continuing to interact with them. From my point of view, you're fortunate that one of them isn't (at the current time) Robin, because then -- like Curtis -- you'd have them writing serial short-story length diatribes at you and actually expecting you to read them. The current crop of pissants don't have the attention span to do that, so you get off relatively easy. :-) Whatever
[FairfieldLife] Just Curious
This is for Salyavin - who do you think was the better leader, Thatcher or Blair?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New papers on TM for lowering hypertension and Post-Traumatic Stress symptoms
I sent him the link to the original American Heart Association report last night... ;-) L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davidoj@...] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:36 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: New papers on TM for lowering hypertension and Post-Traumatic Stress symptoms
[FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
Well, MMYP sincerely believed that John Hagelin would win the 2000 election, from what I hear. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Lawson! Really?! Fully enlightened and able to fool one's self?! Maybe by fully enlightened you mean CC only? I don't see how a person in UC or Brahman could possibly fool themselves. Ok, maybe Nisargadatta fooled himself about the dangers of smoking cigarettes. Anyway, can you give an example? Thanks. From: sparaig LEnglish5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras  Sure. My point is that just because some theoretical state of consciousness brings with it total honesty, doesn't mean that that is really the case. I can conceive of situations where one might be fully enlightened according to some aspect of the TM definition, and still be fooling themselves. Of course, if you define enlightenment as never fooling yourself, then this doesn't make sense. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Lawson, couldn't they be having an internal dialogue and be witnessing it, not identifying with it, not being gripped by it?àSomething along those lines. From: sparaig LEnglish5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras àWe all tell ourselves lies. Even fully enlightened people likely lie to themselves, but since they allegedly no longer have an internal dialogue, they can't catch their own lies because they appear to be intuitive truths. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am simply unafraid of the truth. But you like most extremists can't stand the truth. I was a real TM true believer and became unafraid to look clearly with no blinders on at Marshy, TMO and TM itself. I didn't like what I found, but dealing with the truth is better than continuing to tell myself lies. From: srijau@ srijau@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras Ãâàyou have shown time and again here that you use any occasion to make the most extremist statement, and a good deal of plain nonsense too. So I doubt any careful observer cares much anymore.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Thu 25-Apr-13 00:15:03 UTC
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[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: but but but, Judy, what about the Go to hell and bake bagels That seems like a curse to me! I'll assume you're just joking here. Â Anyway, in case it was to me, here's my reply: Bagels from hell with love, gluten free for thee and all that lies beneath your grateful belly button, etc. BTW I take everything everybody says and see how it fits with my own experience. So nobody really CONVINCES me of anything. Your self-report is duly noted. Whether it's accurate is another question. Let's just say you give every appearance of being easily swayed by those who purport to support you. As for your list of trustworthy people, I think all and all it's a really good list. But 1 or 2 people on that list often sound prejudiced against me. Yes, as I believe I said, some of us may give you a hard time now and then. I said you could trust us, not that we all thought you were a swell person (nor that we felt *we* could trust *you*, for that matter). Fine, it's their right, etc. But hopefully they'll understand why I then won't be giving their words on anything, much less on me, much credence as a result. By all means, shut out anything anyone says about you that's negative and dismiss it as prejudiced. (You might want to consult a good dictionary for the meaning of that term, BTW. I do not think it means what you think it means.) And I do realize that I might be sensitive about this so I do apologize if I'm misinterpreting someone about this. As best as I can, I resist getting sucked into the ongoing feud on FFL and I will continue to do this. I aim to take each post on its own merit, believing that people do change and grow in their ability to experience and express truth. Interesting that you believe you can change and grow in your ability to experience and express truth while dismissing without consideration anything negative about yourself as prejudice. Remember what I told you about being accountable for your behavior to the FFL community. You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most people here appreciate her, so I wish you could stretch yourself and be a little bit nicer to her. Why should that be so hard? The incident that seems to bug you most took place so long ago, why not just forget it, let it go? You talk all the time about honesty and truth, but such things are not always as black and white as you would like us to believe. Our opinions about all kinds of things can change as we reflect on them and consider them. A person can react in a certain way at the time to some incident involving someone else, but later (days, weeks, even months), the incident might seem rather different to them than it did at first. So they start to recontextualize it, to think of it in a different light. This happens all the time in relationships. It doesn't mean the person is being dishonest. Indeed, sometimes it means that they are in fact being very honest -- to their changing feelings and understandings about what took place. Share has tried in her own way to make it right with you, so why not take a step or two toward her? I suggest you drop the smug sense of superiority you exude when writing to Share. Share has more empathy, compassion, humor, and humility than you can even dream about. I would far rather be a pompous, finger-wagging ass than a person overflowing with empathy, compassion, humor, and humility that are phonier than a three-dollar bill, at least as she shows up on FFL. And if we are all accountable for our behavior to the FFL community, isn't it about time that we held YOU accountable for YOUR behavior? You're missing the context of what I told her. Yes, of course I'm accountable in exactly the same way she is, which means I don't get to counter negative impressions of my behavior from folks in the FFL community by protesting that people who have known me for many years offline think of me differently and that FFL members don't know me as I really am. For the full context, see posts 340145 and 340163. They aren't long. Then maybe you can make
[FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
right!apparently CC, UC,...etc; don't have much bearing on strategic blunders, and fooling one'self. Such states involve transcending relative existence, not necessarily making changes or selecting certain options of behavior in relative existence. Ramakrishna smoked on occasion, although I haven't found a statement as to exactly how much. In any event, that could have been a contributing cause to his fatal throat cancer. ... Nikola Tesla by Napoleon Sarony: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52903.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Well, MMYP sincerely believed that John Hagelin would win the 2000 election, from what I hear. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Lawson! Really?! Fully enlightened and able to fool one's self?! Maybe by fully enlightened you mean CC only? I don't see how a person in UC or Brahman could possibly fool themselves. Ok, maybe Nisargadatta fooled himself about the dangers of smoking cigarettes. Anyway, can you give an example? Thanks. From: sparaig LEnglish5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras  Sure. My point is that just because some theoretical state of consciousness brings with it total honesty, doesn't mean that that is really the case. I can conceive of situations where one might be fully enlightened according to some aspect of the TM definition, and still be fooling themselves. Of course, if you define enlightenment as never fooling yourself, then this doesn't make sense. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Lawson, couldn't they be having an internal dialogue and be witnessing it, not identifying with it, not being gripped by it?àSomething along those lines. From: sparaig LEnglish5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras àWe all tell ourselves lies. Even fully enlightened people likely lie to themselves, but since they allegedly no longer have an internal dialogue, they can't catch their own lies because they appear to be intuitive truths. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am simply unafraid of the truth. But you like most extremists can't stand the truth. I was a real TM true believer and became unafraid to look clearly with no blinders on at Marshy, TMO and TM itself. I didn't like what I found, but dealing with the truth is better than continuing to tell myself lies. From: srijau@ srijau@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras Ãâàyou have shown time and again here that you use any occasion to make the most extremist statement, and a good deal of plain nonsense too. So I doubt any careful observer cares much anymore.
[FairfieldLife] Anita Moorjani's NDE
Received her book, Dying to Be Me; an account of her NDE and miraculous healing from near terminal cancer. On the whole, a purely Advaitic account, with some possibly erronous suppositions. Doesn't have the rigor of Dr. Eban Alexander's book; the latter pretty much covering his points with comments make in anticipated advance of criticisms by the likes of Shermer and others. But for those who have not read either, I'll mention a few important points. ... 1. Eben wrote his book AFTER getting involved in the Monroe Institute (uses the hemisync technology to precipitate Journey's out of the Body (Cf. book by Robert Monroe). Briefly, there are (as I recall), three Locales I - an environment similar to that of the earthhouses, people, landscapes, mountains, etc; i.e. an astral world similar to that of the earth. . Locale II. An otherworldly enviroment, mixing the usual environments with fantastical types of people, buildings, and various visionary elements akin to the more unusual categories of fantasy art. . Locale III - merges into pure realms of Light and Sound, but Intelligences may be present. ... Various Divine Beings such as Jesus may appear in all three Locales. ... Now back to Dr. Alexander: His NDE started out in Locale I after exiting a hellish environment of clashing and grating sounds. Met up with his deceased Sister. In Locale II, saw what appeared to be Angelic Beings. In Locale III, merged with the OM. He equates God with the OM and with Pure Consciousness.. .. He's a nominal Christian but didn't see Jesus, nor does he apparently accept the notion of a personal God. ... Now back to Anita Moorjani: She seems to have bypassed Locale I and II altogether, but had telepathic and feeling contact with her dead Dad and her best friend who previously died of Cancer. ... Then she seems to have merged completely (but temporarily) into Brahman, and she equates God with Being and with Universal Energy. ... That's about it for these NDE's. http://anitamoorjani.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. I never was *not* my normal self, feste, as hard as you tried to make it appear so. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. Obviously. (You can call me Judy, by the way.) It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most people here appreciate her, I'd need to see a poll, but this isn't a voting issue. In any case, I don't think many here really understand what's involved. so I wish you could stretch yourself and be a little bit nicer to her. Why should that be so hard? The incident that seems to bug you most took place so long ago, why not just forget it, let it go? Because it was a terrible, awful thing for her to say, a *malevolent* thing for her to say, something that was intended to do serious damage to a person who had done and was continuing to do his damndest to rectify the situation. It was based on Share's misunderstanding of something entirely innocuous that he had said. She needs to retract it and apologize to him, for the sake of her own soul if nothing else. You talk all the time about honesty and truth, but such things are not always as black and white as you would like us to believe. Our opinions about all kinds of things can change as we reflect on them and consider them. A person can react in a certain way at the time to some incident involving someone else, but later (days, weeks, even months), the incident might seem rather different to them than it did at first. So they start to recontextualize it, to think of it in a different light. This happens all the time in relationships. It doesn't mean the person is being dishonest. Indeed, sometimes it means that they are in fact being very honest -- to their changing feelings and understandings about what took place. Generally speaking, all this is true, but not always. I do not believe that was the case here, for a number of reasons that I've already explained *and documented* a number of times that your apologia cannot account for. I don't think Share can account for them either, and I strongly suspect that's why she has refused to provide a straightforward explanation--because if it were honest, it would reflect very badly on her, and perhaps even worse on some others. Share has tried in her own way to make it right with you, so why not take a step or two toward her? It isn't me she needs to make it right with. And the steps she has taken have been designed to get me off her back without revealing the real story. She has also refused to retract the accusation she made against Robin. She says only that she isn't making that accusation *now*--but the original accusation is still on the record. It needs to be explicitly taken *off* the record; it didn't even come close to being true in the first place. This wasn't just a minor misstep, feste. This was scandalous and entirely indefensible. I would suggest you read over my posts to Share about it and her responses, because I don't think you've retained the crucial details from when you read them the first time (assuming you did).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Anita Moorjani's NDE
I liked Moorjani's book a great deal more that Alexander's - he was trying to prove he had the experience, while she simply said this is what happened, take it or leave it. From: Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Anita Moorjani's NDE Received her book, Dying to Be Me; an account of her NDE and miraculous healing from near terminal cancer. On the whole, a purely Advaitic account, with some possibly erronous suppositions. Doesn't have the rigor of Dr. Eban Alexander's book; the latter pretty much covering his points with comments make in anticipated advance of criticisms by the likes of Shermer and others. But for those who have not read either, I'll mention a few important points. ... 1. Eben wrote his book AFTER getting involved in the Monroe Institute (uses the hemisync technology to precipitate Journey's out of the Body (Cf. book by Robert Monroe). Briefly, there are (as I recall), three Locales I - an environment similar to that of the earthhouses, people, landscapes, mountains, etc; i.e. an astral world similar to that of the earth. . Locale II. An otherworldly enviroment, mixing the usual environments with fantastical types of people, buildings, and various visionary elements akin to the more unusual categories of fantasy art. . Locale III - merges into pure realms of Light and Sound, but Intelligences may be present. ... Various Divine Beings such as Jesus may appear in all three Locales. ... Now back to Dr. Alexander: His NDE started out in Locale I after exiting a hellish environment of clashing and grating sounds. Met up with his deceased Sister. In Locale II, saw what appeared to be Angelic Beings. In Locale III, merged with the OM. He equates God with the OM and with Pure Consciousness.. .. He's a nominal Christian but didn't see Jesus, nor does he apparently accept the notion of a personal God. ... Now back to Anita Moorjani: She seems to have bypassed Locale I and II altogether, but had telepathic and feeling contact with her dead Dad and her best friend who previously died of Cancer. ... Then she seems to have merged completely (but temporarily) into Brahman, and she equates God with Being and with Universal Energy. ... That's about it for these NDE's. http://anitamoorjani.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
thx, Anita's book could be used as a text on Neo-Advaita; but unfortunately imo, contains elements of Faux Advaita which if parsed and analyzed would have parallel comments in this forum going back a few years. One example: she clearly extrapolates her personal experience of the Self with ALL dead people, assuming that all dead people merge with the Absolute and there's no place in that state; thus you will find no mention in her book of Locale I environments. ... Based on my own astral experiences in meeting up with dead people, I disagree with her presumption about the fate of the dead. (some are in dire need, trapped in purgagories and probably not in a non-dual state but at least far from happy); let alone those in actual hells as reported in about 10% of NDE's. Thus she goes too far in assuming everybody after death is happy, free of bad karma, and in a non-dual state. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/16015.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I liked Moorjani's book a great deal more that Alexander's - he was trying to prove he had the experience, while she simply said this is what happened, take it or leave it. From: Yifu yifuxero@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Anita Moorjani's NDE Â Received her book, Dying to Be Me; an account of her NDE and miraculous healing from near terminal cancer. On the whole, a purely Advaitic account, with some possibly erronous suppositions. Doesn't have the rigor of Dr. Eban Alexander's book; the latter pretty much covering his points with comments make in anticipated advance of criticisms by the likes of Shermer and others. But for those who have not read either, I'll mention a few important points. ... 1. Eben wrote his book AFTER getting involved in the Monroe Institute (uses the hemisync technology to precipitate Journey's out of the Body (Cf. book by Robert Monroe). Briefly, there are (as I recall), three Locales I - an environment similar to that of the earthhouses, people, landscapes, mountains, etc; i.e. an astral world similar to that of the earth. . Locale II. An otherworldly enviroment, mixing the usual environments with fantastical types of people, buildings, and various visionary elements akin to the more unusual categories of fantasy art. . Locale III - merges into pure realms of Light and Sound, but Intelligences may be present. ... Various Divine Beings such as Jesus may appear in all three Locales. ... Now back to Dr. Alexander: His NDE started out in Locale I after exiting a hellish environment of clashing and grating sounds. Met up with his deceased Sister. In Locale II, saw what appeared to be Angelic Beings. In Locale III, merged with the OM. He equates God with the OM and with Pure Consciousness.. .. He's a nominal Christian but didn't see Jesus, nor does he apparently accept the notion of a personal God. ... Now back to Anita Moorjani: She seems to have bypassed Locale I and II altogether, but had telepathic and feeling contact with her dead Dad and her best friend who previously died of Cancer. ... Then she seems to have merged completely (but temporarily) into Brahman, and she equates God with Being and with Universal Energy. ... That's about it for these NDE's. http://anitamoorjani.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
She also has an uncommon viewpoint of karma, surprising having been raised in a Hindu family (but went to a Catholic School). She was asked about criminals and generally those with bad karma. Her reply was that all people merge into the non-dual state and also - their karma is eradicated. ... I don't agree with this, or see how it's possible; from what I grok as the nature of karma. (with the caveat that since karma is ultimately unfathomable, nobody knows a lot about it). In any event, as cause and effect, karma seems to be a storehouse of good and bad elements, the latter roughly defined as baggage that detracts from Dharma and one's ongoing evolution toward greater Happiness. The baggage may be in the form of raw attachments and a storehouse of prior events. . But strictly in terms of cause and effect, erradicating the karma would take an input of additional causes - i.e. some effort and work put into the goal of eradicating it, as offsetting a weight. I don't see how mere death would equate to the offsetting causes sufficient to eradicate the storehouse of bad karma. But Anita doesn't even accept the concepts of good and bad. (but ymmv). ... But nor do I agree with the Christian concept of Sin and how to offset the consequences therof. Offhand, I'd say that merely accepting Jesus and one's Savior might be insuffient cause to eradicate ALL bad karma in all cases. Many criminals convert to nominal Christianity after getting into prison. Does their bad karma vanish merely because of the new profession of faith?, instantaneously? ... My hypothesis: criminals at death go to the hellish worlds inhabited by criminals, Saints to their Heaven. Death is not a free pass to nonduality or happiness; imo. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/72183.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: thx, Anita's book could be used as a text on Neo-Advaita; but unfortunately imo, contains elements of Faux Advaita which if parsed and analyzed would have parallel comments in this forum going back a few years. One example: she clearly extrapolates her personal experience of the Self with ALL dead people, assuming that all dead people merge with the Absolute and there's no place in that state; thus you will find no mention in her book of Locale I environments. ... Based on my own astral experiences in meeting up with dead people, I disagree with her presumption about the fate of the dead. (some are in dire need, trapped in purgagories and probably not in a non-dual state but at least far from happy); let alone those in actual hells as reported in about 10% of NDE's. Thus she goes too far in assuming everybody after death is happy, free of bad karma, and in a non-dual state. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/16015.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I liked Moorjani's book a great deal more that Alexander's - he was trying to prove he had the experience, while she simply said this is what happened, take it or leave it. From: Yifu yifuxero@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Anita Moorjani's NDE Â Received her book, Dying to Be Me; an account of her NDE and miraculous healing from near terminal cancer. On the whole, a purely Advaitic account, with some possibly erronous suppositions. Doesn't have the rigor of Dr. Eban Alexander's book; the latter pretty much covering his points with comments make in anticipated advance of criticisms by the likes of Shermer and others. But for those who have not read either, I'll mention a few important points. ... 1. Eben wrote his book AFTER getting involved in the Monroe Institute (uses the hemisync technology to precipitate Journey's out of the Body (Cf. book by Robert Monroe). Briefly, there are (as I recall), three Locales I - an environment similar to that of the earthhouses, people, landscapes, mountains, etc; i.e. an astral world similar to that of the earth. . Locale II. An otherworldly enviroment, mixing the usual environments with fantastical types of people, buildings, and various visionary elements akin to the more unusual categories of fantasy art. . Locale III - merges into pure realms of Light and Sound, but Intelligences may be present. ... Various Divine Beings such as Jesus may appear in all three Locales. ... Now back to Dr. Alexander: His NDE started out in Locale I after exiting a hellish environment of clashing and grating sounds. Met up with his deceased Sister. In Locale II, saw what appeared to be Angelic Beings. In Locale III, merged with the OM. He equates God with the OM and with Pure Consciousness.. .. He's a nominal Christian but didn't see Jesus, nor does he apparently accept the notion of a personal God.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
On 04/24/2013 06:38 AM, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: I hope his teachers schedule extra checking for him. OTOH, if he tweeted just after learning, then a lot of his misconceptions will have already been cleared up by now. Expecting it to improve *everything* is a tad ambitious for the first week, but good luck to him. I imagine he needs a bit of peace after all the lawsuits that have been thrown at his hideous news network. All the revelations about the phonehacking scum in his employ who probably thought they'd never get caught. And all the, two-faced, cowardly politicians who finally turned on him after years of black- mail and denied him and his lawless family of parasites at News International almost complete control of British media. He must have lost billions, if he hasn't the courts in this country should keep at him until his brand of humiliation as entertainment and his vile right-wing tabloids are as much a part of history as the woman who enabled it all, our dear departed Maggie Thatch. Just one of her major and unacknowledged mistakes. Hopefully we'll never see his like again (once we've somehow got rid of the Daily [hate] Mail). Or maybe TM will reverse his fortunes! Nature support has to work for someone after all. Yes, he probably needs a bit of peace of mind. Funny thing is that FX, the FOX cable channel has some of the best programming around. It's current hit is The Americans about KGB spies during the 1980s in America. Also Justified which I know has some fans here. American Horror Story, Louis CK, Sons of Anarchy, Legit are more of my favorites. I read an interview back in the 1990s with Rupert in Esquire magazine where he said all he was concerned about was the TV shows are profitable. He keeps hands off FOX and FX and apparently too hands on the news properties. Stu once said that FOX was the easiest to work for. Apparently not so many MBAs trying their hand at seasoning the TV series soup as with the other networks.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL
Judy if it's not, as you say below, you with whom I need to make it right, then why have you spent the last almost 8 months badgering me about it?! I'm actually starting to think that you don't want me and Robin to reconcile. In fact you said something to that effect just recently to another poster. As for the records, if you want something expunged from them, then I guess you need to speak to Rick and or Alex about it. But again, I actually don't think that's what you really want either. No, I think what you really want is an excuse to keep attacking me for some seriously neurotic reason that exists only in the depths of your neglected psyche. I'm guessing that Robin has not asked you to be his spokesperson in this matter. In that case, I have nothing further to say to you about it, Ms. Becoming More Sanctimonious Every Nanosecond! From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to azgrey was what a Sunday on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You are sounding like a pompous, finger-wagging ass, authfriend. (Says feste pompously, wagging his finger. Gee, and just yesterday I had melted down and was reduced to sputtering Yiddish insults. Pretty quick recovery, wouldn't you say?) Indeed, an excellent recovery. Back to your normal self in no time. I never was *not* my normal self, feste, as hard as you tried to make it appear so. The thing is authfriend, I actually like you, but it makes me mad when you lay into Share the way you do. Obviously. (You can call me Judy, by the way.) It seems unfair and disrespectful. Share enjoys FFL, and most people here appreciate her, I'd need to see a poll, but this isn't a voting issue. In any case, I don't think many here really understand what's involved. so I wish you could stretch yourself and be a little bit nicer to her. Why should that be so hard? The incident that seems to bug you most took place so long ago, why not just forget it, let it go? Because it was a terrible, awful thing for her to say, a *malevolent* thing for her to say, something that was intended to do serious damage to a person who had done and was continuing to do his damndest to rectify the situation. It was based on Share's misunderstanding of something entirely innocuous that he had said. She needs to retract it and apologize to him, for the sake of her own soul if nothing else. You talk all the time about honesty and truth, but such things are not always as black and white as you would like us to believe. Our opinions about all kinds of things can change as we reflect on them and consider them. A person can react in a certain way at the time to some incident involving someone else, but later (days, weeks, even months), the incident might seem rather different to them than it did at first. So they start to recontextualize it, to think of it in a different light. This happens all the time in relationships. It doesn't mean the person is being dishonest. Indeed, sometimes it means that they are in fact being very honest -- to their changing feelings and understandings about what took place. Generally speaking, all this is true, but not always. I do not believe that was the case here, for a number of reasons that I've already explained *and documented* a number of times that your apologia cannot account for. I don't think Share can account for them either, and I strongly suspect that's why she has refused to provide a straightforward explanation--because if it were honest, it would reflect very badly on her, and perhaps even worse on some others. Share has tried in her own way to make it right with you, so why not take a step or two toward her? It isn't me she needs to make it right with. And the steps she has taken have been designed to get me off her back without revealing the real story. She has also refused to retract the accusation she made against Robin. She says only that she isn't making that accusation *now*--but the original accusation is still on the record. It needs to be explicitly taken *off* the record; it didn't even come close to being true in the first place. This wasn't just a minor misstep, feste. This was scandalous and entirely indefensible. I would suggest you read over my posts to Share about it and her responses, because I don't think you've retained the crucial details from when you read them the first time (assuming you did).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: She also has an uncommon viewpoint of karma, surprising having been raised in a Hindu family (but went to a Catholic School). She was asked about criminals and generally those with bad karma. Her reply was that all people merge into the non-dual state and also - their karma is eradicated. ... I don't agree with this, or see how it's possible; from what I grok as the nature of karma. (with the caveat that since karma is ultimately unfathomable, nobody knows a lot about it). In any event, as cause and effect, karma seems to be a storehouse of good and bad elements, the latter roughly defined as baggage that detracts from Dharma and one's ongoing evolution toward greater Happiness. The baggage may be in the form of raw attachments and a storehouse of prior events. . But strictly in terms of cause and effect, erradicating the karma would take an input of additional causes - i.e. some effort and work put into the goal of eradicating it, as offsetting a weight. I don't see how mere death would equate to the offsetting causes sufficient to eradicate the storehouse of bad karma. But Anita doesn't even accept the concepts of good and bad. (but ymmv). ... But nor do I agree with the Christian concept of Sin and how to offset the consequences therof. Offhand, I'd say that merely accepting Jesus and one's Savior might be insuffient cause to eradicate ALL bad karma in all cases. Many criminals convert to nominal Christianity after getting into prison. Does their bad karma vanish merely because of the new profession of faith?, instantaneously? ... My hypothesis: criminals at death go to the hellish worlds inhabited by criminals, Saints to their Heaven. Death is not a free pass to nonduality or happiness; imo. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/8/72183.jpg I thought about the karma thing too when reading Anita's book. One way to view what happens after death, in her viewpoint a great equalizer, is that to be capable of great atrocities during one's lifetime means one is already in a sort of living hell. What could cause someone to torture animals or people or go to endless lengths in order to gain wealth, to exploit others sexually, to exploit someone's good nature or trust? What would allow someone to do that is to be living an existence devoid of feeling or empathy, to be bereft of the more subtle and sensitive impulses that guide the life that is filled with the capacity to understand and place oneself within the delicate space of another - to be able to relate and therefore to feel you can understand and want to enhance the condition of another person. To be unable to feel such things is a sort of hell, so after this life of suffering in what ways should this poor sod have to suffer more? They have already spent most of their earthly existence enacting a nightmare, probably experiencing a kind of emotional void. When is that allowed to end? Surely in death. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: thx, Anita's book could be used as a text on Neo-Advaita; but unfortunately imo, contains elements of Faux Advaita which if parsed and analyzed would have parallel comments in this forum going back a few years. One example: she clearly extrapolates her personal experience of the Self with ALL dead people, assuming that all dead people merge with the Absolute and there's no place in that state; thus you will find no mention in her book of Locale I environments. ... Based on my own astral experiences in meeting up with dead people, I disagree with her presumption about the fate of the dead. (some are in dire need, trapped in purgagories and probably not in a non-dual state but at least far from happy); let alone those in actual hells as reported in about 10% of NDE's. Thus she goes too far in assuming everybody after death is happy, free of bad karma, and in a non-dual state. http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/16015.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I liked Moorjani's book a great deal more that Alexander's - he was trying to prove he had the experience, while she simply said this is what happened, take it or leave it. From: Yifu yifuxero@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Anita Moorjani's NDE Â Received her book, Dying to Be Me; an account of her NDE and miraculous healing from near terminal cancer. On the whole, a purely Advaitic account, with some possibly erronous suppositions. Doesn't have the rigor of Dr. Eban Alexander's book; the latter pretty much covering his points with comments make in anticipated advance of criticisms by the likes of Shermer and others. But for those
[FairfieldLife] Re: Media coverage of TM new MUM press release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 04/24/2013 06:38 AM, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: I hope his teachers schedule extra checking for him. OTOH, if he tweeted just after learning, then a lot of his misconceptions will have already been cleared up by now. Expecting it to improve *everything* is a tad ambitious for the first week, but good luck to him. I imagine he needs a bit of peace after all the lawsuits that have been thrown at his hideous news network. All the revelations about the phonehacking scum in his employ who probably thought they'd never get caught. And all the, two-faced, cowardly politicians who finally turned on him after years of black- mail and denied him and his lawless family of parasites at News International almost complete control of British media. He must have lost billions, if he hasn't the courts in this country should keep at him until his brand of humiliation as entertainment and his vile right-wing tabloids are as much a part of history as the woman who enabled it all, our dear departed Maggie Thatch. Just one of her major and unacknowledged mistakes. Hopefully we'll never see his like again (once we've somehow got rid of the Daily [hate] Mail). Or maybe TM will reverse his fortunes! Nature support has to work for someone after all. Yes, he probably needs a bit of peace of mind. Funny thing is that FX, the FOX cable channel has some of the best programming around. It's current hit is The Americans about KGB spies during the 1980s in America. Also Justified which I know has some fans here. American Horror Story, Louis CK, Sons of Anarchy, Legit are more of my favorites. I read an interview back in the 1990s with Rupert in Esquire magazine where he said all he was concerned about was the TV shows are profitable. He keeps hands off FOX and FX and apparently too hands on the news properties. Stu once said that FOX was the easiest to work for. Apparently not so many MBAs trying their hand at seasoning the TV series soup as with the other networks. Fair enough but tear up a copy of the New York Post while you're watching.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anita Moorjani's NDE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: I thought about the karma thing too when reading Anita's book. One way to view what happens after death, in her viewpoint a great equalizer, is that to be capable of great atrocities during one's lifetime means one is already in a sort of living hell. What could cause someone to torture animals or people or go to endless lengths in order to gain wealth, to exploit others sexually, to exploit someone's good nature or trust? What would allow someone to do that is to be living an existence devoid of feeling or empathy, to be bereft of the more subtle and sensitive impulses that guide the life that is filled with the capacity to understand and place oneself within the delicate space of another - to be able to relate and therefore to feel you can understand and want to enhance the condition of another person. To be unable to feel such things is a sort of hell, so after this life of suffering in what ways should this poor sod have to suffer more? They have already spent most of their earthly existence enacting a nightmare, probably experiencing a kind of emotional void. When is that allowed to end? Surely in death. While I cannot disagree with what Ann says here, I should point out to her that what she has posted is pretty much the clinical definition of someone suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder or Sociopathic Disorder. Unable to feel empathy, driven only by ego and self-importance and the need to fuel it, they often become charismatic (and abusive) priests or teachers or cult leaders and use their positions of supposed authority to dominate and exploit others (for whom they can feel no pity because they can't *feel*). And all the while they're *masking* their inability to feel empathy or real emotion by talking in language that makes them appear more sensitive or empathic than others. It's a strange affliction. And one that, as I've pointed out before, is not easily reversed or cured. Therapists and mental health experts consider the condition almost irreversible, because the same ego- and self- absorption issues that drive a person to think and act like this also prevent them from ever changing. They cannot conceive of anything they might want to change *into*, because for them the overpowering sense of their own importance and center-of-the-world-ness and I-ness in the present moment often blinds them to any ability to perceive or conceive of a different modality in the future. So the disorder becomes self- perpetuating. As Ann says, it's a kind of living Hell. Sadly, it often is as well for those who have to live with or deal with NPD individuals. There have been successful treatment therapies developed for how to help the *victims* of NPD or socio- pathy, but so far almost none that can help the perpetrators of it. If they're far gone enough into the behavior to be diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, they're stuck with it for life. And possibly -- given karma -- for many lives to come...
