[FairfieldLife] Grenouille avec parapluie :-)

[turquoiseb]

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Om, So what is the connection between GMO's and the larger matters of 
> spirituality we discuss on FFL?  So why would Buck a conservative meditator 
> be spending any time on FFL writing about GMO's  where FFL and FF as a 
> community more ideally are about and well should be about things spiritual 
> and spiritual Fairfield.  Well, obviously firstly I am most interested in the 
> welfare of the Dome meditation and the numbers of meditators meditating 
> together.  Science and our long spiritual experience here clearly shows us 
> that meditating together is of paramount spiritual practice.  Now that the 
> health threatening mechanisms of GMO's to the human system is figured out I 
> certainly feel it is urgent and fair warning to meditators on this forum and 
> everywhere to be aware of the danger GMO's may pose to our Dome group 
> meditation numbers. Forewarned is forearmed; Avert the danger before it 
> arrives,
> -Buck

And don't forget that Maharishi was the first to point out the dangers of GMO 
and proposed a ban on all GMO products.

[FairfieldLife] The Real Thing

[turquoiseb]

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Total. Complete. Astouding. Absolute. Paradigm. Shift.

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sound of stillness" 
 wrote:
>
> God is not an object that can be seen. God is the subject. He is the seer. 
> Don't concern your­self with objects that can be seen. Find out who the seer 
> is.
> 
> - Ramana Maharishi
> 
> The awareness that I am does not belong to me. I am it because I belong to 
> it, because I am a part of it.
> 
> It is what is constantly selving, bodying, sensing, feeling and thinking 
> itself both as`me' and as all that is `not-me'.
> 
> — Peter Wilberg
> 
> Very deep is the well of the past. Should we call it bottomless?
> 
> The deeper we sound the further down into the lower world of the past we 
> probe and press, the more do we find that the earliest foundations of 
> humanity, its history and culture, reveal themselves unfathomable.
> 
> — Thomas Mann
> 
> If every effect has a cause and every cause an effect, is there a chance for 
> chance?
> 
> — Anon
> 
> Avoid the danger that has not yet arisen.
> 
> — Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> 
> God is not an object that can be seen. God is the subject. He is the seer. 
> Don't concern your­self with objects that can be seen. Find out who the seer 
> is.
> 
> - Ramana Maharishi

Oops, I think this should have been posted on the "dream" thread.


 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> >
> > http://m.guardiannews.com/science/2013/may/23/eric-weinstein-answer-physics-problems
> > 
> > Holy moly what a breakthrough.  
> > 
> > What are the physics of Shiva's bones, now, eh?
> > 
> > It is like we just like when Einstein published his theory in 1905 -- this 
> > changes everything.
> > 
> > I'm squirming in delight.
> > 
> > Edg
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[turquoiseb]

Bottom line, Judy, is that there are only four 
of you. With an occasional "pile on" from Nabby
and Raunchydog. No one else really bothers with
you, unless one of you actually says something
interesting by accident. :-)

You're preaching *to each other*. If you really
had a case to make about my (and Curtis' and
Steve's and Vaj's) evilnessitude, it seems to
me that you could have made it and gotten a 
hearty round of approval by now. If you haven't,
after all these years, you should get used to
the idea that the only people you're EVER going
to get that round of approval from are your
own minions. 

I mean, haven't you ever considered how utterly
EMBARRASSING it is to have Ravi, Ann, Jimbo,
Raunchydog, and Nabby as your only fans? Low
hanging fruit. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> Have you ever noticed how important Barry, FFL's one-man
> Hate Brigade, feels it is to let us all know how little
> he's affected by what the folks who are trying to clue
> him in to himself are saying?
> 
> If he were really not affected, he wouldn't worry about
> whether we thought he was. But he obviously cares a great
> deal about convincing us that he doesn't care.
> 
> Jumping up and down and screaming, "I don't give a shit
> what you horrible people say about me! I don't care, I
> don't care, I'm not affected. Look, damn it, I'm not
> paying you any attention, can't you see? I'm being just
> as hateful as you all keep saying I am!" doesn't quite
> convey the impression he wants it to.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Have you ever noticed that the Hate Brigade tends to
> > justify why they obsess on me by coming up with 
> > metaphors for how *much* what I say *bothers* them?
> > 
> > And then they give speeches about "non-attachment."
> > Go figure. 
> > 
> > If I were to come up with a metaphor for how much
> > the things Ann or Jimbo or Judy or Ravi say affect
> > me...uh...let's see. Using Ann's tortured metaphor
> > syntax (she really *did* learn to Write Badly from
> > Robin, didn't she?):
> > 
> > * Think of a gnat flying through a room, making so
> > little impact on the room that the only ones who
> > even notice its existence are other gnats. 
> > 
> > That's all I can come up with. Sorry...  :-)
> > 
> > Really. Does the spoiled little rich girl think 
> > that people actually CARE what she thinks of them?
> > Or that they have any reaction whatsoever?
> > 
> > THAT is the whole issue. They are convinced that
> > people CARE about the things they say, as if they
> > "mattered." They don't. They're gnats. The only
> > thing one can do with gnats -- out of compassion,
> > you understand -- is to remind them every so often
> > of their gnatitudeness.  :-)
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Barry Wright wants attention
> > > > 
> > > > Why do you lot give him so much if you object to it?
> > > 
> > > Let's see if I can explain it.
> > > 
> > > Think of a dead rat in the wall and what it smells like.
> > > Imagine sawdust in your underwear.
> > > Cogitate on those times when you got a bug in your eye and it burns.
> > > Recollect that cucumber you leave about three weeks too long in the 
> > > fridge.
> > > Put your mind back to the time you have a pebble in your shoe on a long 
> > > hike.
> > > Reminisce on those instances when the party upstairs keeps you awake 
> > > until 3 am and you have to get up at 6. 
> > > 
> > > In all these instances you wish it would just go away and leave you 
> > > alone. The longer you wait and do nothing the worse it will get or at 
> > > least stay the same (unpleasant). So in the spirit of optimism and hope 
> > > one takes action. In most instances one can rectify any one of the above 
> > > situations. In Barry's case the smell, the itch, the burn, the slime, the 
> > > ache and noise (in that order from the examples above)is a lot harder to 
> > > make go away/stop. And anyway, he loves the attention so at least there 
> > > is that. I don't begrudge him a little attention, I've got lots to give.
> > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Barry Wright loves attention
> > > > > 
> > > > > Barry Wright would kill for attention
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he 
> > > > > accuses others of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, 
> > > > > psychologist who follow attachment theory may call him 
> > > > > dismissive-avoidant.
> > > > > 
> > > > > He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at others being 
> > > > > TB's.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Share and Xeno are his fans.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Pathetic.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On May 23, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> Perhaps me meant Witnessing Dreaming?

Then say so. I was quibbling over the sloppy use 
of language, that's all. If you're going to use
the word "transcendental," and in a MMY context,
at least have the grace to use it as he defined
it. 

> Though, I've no reason to think that an arbitrary 
> dream, enlightened or no, is going to be more 
> important to the waking state if one is enlightened 
> or not.

There are some (myself among them) who feel that
developing the ability to do lucid dreaming (also
referred to as Tibetan Dream Yoga) can be useful
in teaching skills that will become useful when
traversing the Bardo between death and rebirth.
But to believe that, you have to believe in such
transitions, and in reincarnation. 

There are also those (Native American shamans,
for example) who believe that confronting one's
fears in the dream plane help to develop the
ability to do so more effectively when awake.

But, as you say, none of these things have 
anything to do with enlightenment per se, and
can be done by people who've never heard of 
the concept of enlightenment, and who do not
seek it. 


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I was thinking that if a person had transcendental dreams, 
> > > then the solutions to problems in the waking consciousness 
> > > would be rehearsed and reenacted during the dream state in 
> > > a blissful way. He or she would then actually perform a 
> > > creative solution during the waking state to fix the 
> > > problem, whether it be in relationships or work issues.
> > 
> > Sometimes John's cluelessness amazes me, even after 
> > all this time. There can never be any such thing as
> > a remembered "transcendental dream," because if it
> > had any attributes you can remember, it wasn't 
> > transcendental. 
> > 
> > If you disagree, describe a period of "transcendence" 
> > that you experienced in TM for me. In detail. I'll 
> > wait...  :-)
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > I was thinking that if a person had transcendental dreams, 
> > then the solutions to problems in the waking consciousness 
> > would be rehearsed and reenacted during the dream state in 
> > a blissful way. He or she would then actually perform a 
> > creative solution during the waking state to fix the 
> > problem, whether it be in relationships or work issues.
> 
> Sometimes John's cluelessness amazes me, even after 
> all this time. There can never be any such thing as
> a remembered "transcendental dream," because if it
> had any attributes you can remember, it wasn't 
> transcendental. 
> 
> If you disagree, describe a period of "transcendence" 
> that you experienced in TM for me. In detail. I'll 
> wait...  :-)

Barry,

We're impressed that you still know the TM terminology.  Are you still teaching 
TM as a renegade?

Anyway, my point was that transcendental consciousness, once attained by 
meditation, can coexist with the waking, sleeping, and dreaming states of 
consciousness.  By transcendental dream, I meant the state in which 
transcendental consciousness and the dreaming consciousness are both maintained 
at the same time.

This state of consciousness results in lucid dreaming which Richard and Lawson 
have mentioned.

To answer your other question, transcendence can be attained every time the 
mantra is invoked during meditation.  Pure consciousness lies in the gaps of 
the mantra syllables.

When the mind transcends or attains pure consciousness, the mind experiences 
bliss.  In his commentary to the Gita, MMY stated that this bliss is 
experienced at the juncture between the relative and absolute life.  This bliss 
can also be experienced at the juncture between waking, sleeping, and dreaming 
states of consciousness.

If you had watched the video clip, you will understand why I made the comment 
to Carde.  IOW, the REM and non-REM states of sleeping can be beneficially 
affected by the experience of bliss during these states.  Thus, the person can 
find creative solutions to problems that are present during the active and 
waking consciousness.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> 
>  I was thinking that if a person had transcendental dreams, 
>  then the solutions to problems in the waking consciousness 
>  would be rehearsed and reenacted during the dream state in 
>  a blissful way. He or she would then actually perform a 
>  creative solution during the waking state to fix the 
>  problem, whether it be in relationships or work issues.
> >>> 
> >>> Sometimes John's cluelessness amazes me, even after 
> >>> all this time. There can never be any such thing as
> >>> a remembered "transcendental dream," because if it
> >>> had any attributes you can remember, it wasn't 
> >>> transcendental. 
> >>> 
> >>> If you disagree, describe a period of "transcendence" 
> >>> that you experienced in TM for me. In detail. I'll 
> >>> wait...  :-)
> >>>
> >> Okay, I'll start, but it might be a while before you hear anything, 
> >> perhaps forever, so in the spirit of anticipation, hold your breath until 
> >> you hear from me.
> >> 
> >> This tread got me thinking 'is anything transcendental'? The mind imagines 
> >> that there is a 'transcendent', but is there? Whatever we might think 
> >> about the nature of consciousness, we all have experiences, which in 
> >> aggregate is just experience. If we define experience in general, as a 
> >> field, nothing happens outside experience in general whether the 
> >> experience is something like a coffee pot, or what we call transcendence 
> >> in meditation. But transcendence is not outside experience, it is just 
> >> another flavour or qualia of experience.
> > 
> > If you want to *redefine* experience as a "field,"
> > maybe you could get away with this. But by the normal
> > definition of "experience," transcendental pure
> > consciousness in meditation (no thoughts, no mantra)
> > isn't "an experience," it's the *absence* of experience,
> > beyond experience. As Barry points out, it's
> > attributeless, qualia-less.
> 
> I was kinda playing with the words. We use these words a lot, but exactly how 
> do all these words that we refer to consciousness, being, pure consciousness, 
> transcendence, relate to one another, and that depends on how we define them, 
> and understand those definitions.
> 
> Does 'pure consciousness' equal 'being' or is there some subtle difference? 
> Is the absence of experience conscious or not? Is there such a thing as 
> non-existence as opposed to existence if were are on the level of being?
> > 
> > By "transcendental dream," John was most likely
> > referring to witnessing the experience of dreaming,
> > not having a dream of the transcendent. Barry could
> > have figured that out, but he preferred to ignore
> > what John wrote ("problems...rehearsed and reenacted
> > during the dream state in a blissful way") so he
> > could put John down.
> >
> My first comment was primarily aimed at Turq's last paragraph. 
> 
> As for dreams, I was thinking if one has a vision, is that real, or just a 
> dream one had a vision. Was it an hallucination? Are spiritual experiences 
> just hallucinations?

Define "real." 

> Because individual minds seem so different and interpret the world with such 
> different perspectives, are we just local realities in a larger reality, or 
> hallucinations in a larger reality?

Whose hallucinations?

> I tend to think that thought creates a reality or the appearance of reality, 
> if the thoughts are taken at least as seriously as what they point to. 
> 
> I also think most take thoughts more seriously than what they point to and 
> mask the underlying reality, which while it seems to have a texture, so to 
> speak, is undefined, except when we think. No thoughts, no mantra in 
> meditation gives an experiential clue as to that undefined reality, of which 
> one cannot speak, but that is just the beginning step in the process of 
> attempting to discover what that 'what one cannot define' is. The real goal 
> is to apprehend that undefined value when wide awake and in activity in every 
> aspect of experience.

Er, yes, TM 101.

But also throughout the range of nonwaking state, including
dreaming and deep sleep. John was speculating about whether 
"apprehension of the undefined value" while dreaming would
enable solutions to waking-state problems. Barry didn't get
this, or chose to misunderstand John as referring to a dream
of transcendence, i.e., a dream of the absence of experience
as that state occurs in meditation when there are no thoughts
and no mantra, an impossibility by definition (but not what
John had in mind at all).

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> wrote:
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:

 I was thinking that if a person had transcendental dreams, 
 then the solutions to problems in the waking consciousness 
 would be rehearsed and reenacted during the dream state in 
 a blissful way. He or she would then actually perform a 
 creative solution during the waking state to fix the 
 problem, whether it be in relationships or work issues.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes John's cluelessness amazes me, even after 
>>> all this time. There can never be any such thing as
>>> a remembered "transcendental dream," because if it
>>> had any attributes you can remember, it wasn't 
>>> transcendental. 
>>> 
>>> If you disagree, describe a period of "transcendence" 
>>> that you experienced in TM for me. In detail. I'll 
>>> wait...  :-)
>>>
>> Okay, I'll start, but it might be a while before you hear anything, perhaps 
>> forever, so in the spirit of anticipation, hold your breath until you hear 
>> from me.
>> 
>> This tread got me thinking 'is anything transcendental'? The mind imagines 
>> that there is a 'transcendent', but is there? Whatever we might think about 
>> the nature of consciousness, we all have experiences, which in aggregate is 
>> just experience. If we define experience in general, as a field, nothing 
>> happens outside experience in general whether the experience is something 
>> like a coffee pot, or what we call transcendence in meditation. But 
>> transcendence is not outside experience, it is just another flavour or 
>> qualia of experience.
> 
> If you want to *redefine* experience as a "field,"
> maybe you could get away with this. But by the normal
> definition of "experience," transcendental pure
> consciousness in meditation (no thoughts, no mantra)
> isn't "an experience," it's the *absence* of experience,
> beyond experience. As Barry points out, it's
> attributeless, qualia-less.

I was kinda playing with the words. We use these words a lot, but exactly how 
do all these words that we refer to consciousness, being, pure consciousness, 
transcendence, relate to one another, and that depends on how we define them, 
and understand those definitions.

Does 'pure consciousness' equal 'being' or is there some subtle difference? Is 
the absence of experience conscious or not? Is there such a thing as 
non-existence as opposed to existence if were are on the level of being?
> 
> By "transcendental dream," John was most likely
> referring to witnessing the experience of dreaming,
> not having a dream of the transcendent. Barry could
> have figured that out, but he preferred to ignore
> what John wrote ("problems...rehearsed and reenacted
> during the dream state in a blissful way") so he
> could put John down.
>
My first comment was primarily aimed at Turq's last paragraph. 

As for dreams, I was thinking if one has a vision, is that real, or just a 
dream one had a vision. Was it an hallucination? Are spiritual experiences just 
hallucinations? 

Because individual minds seem so different and interpret the world with such 
different perspectives, are we just local realities in a larger reality, or 
hallucinations in a larger reality? I tend to think that thought creates a 
reality or the appearance of reality, if the thoughts are taken at least as 
seriously as what they point to. 

I also think most take thoughts more seriously than what they point to and mask 
the underlying reality, which while it seems to have a texture, so to speak, is 
undefined, except when we think. No thoughts, no mantra in meditation gives an 
experiential clue as to that undefined reality, of which one cannot speak, but 
that is just the beginning step in the process of attempting to discover what 
that 'what one cannot define' is. The real goal is to apprehend that undefined 
value when wide awake and in activity in every aspect of experience.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[Buck]

Remember the classic 1960's film, The Graduate and *plastics*.  Now it is 
*epigenetics* in the 21st Century.  In our case it explains a lot about the 
virtues of meditation and why everyone should be meditating more.  It is 
amazing to understand the underlying science.  GMO's unlike meditation 
evidently are an experience we do not need to have on our health.  It is a fair 
warning to protect the Dome numbers meditating, 
-Buck in the Dome 



> >
> > Om, So what is the connection between GMO's and the larger matters of 
> > spirituality we discuss on FFL?  So why would Buck a conservative meditator 
> > be spending any time on FFL writing about GMO's  where FFL and FF as a 
> > community more ideally are about and well should be about things spiritual 
> > and spiritual Fairfield.  Well, obviously firstly I am most interested in 
> > the welfare of the Dome meditation and the numbers of meditators meditating 
> > together.  Science and our long spiritual experience here clearly shows us 
> > that meditating together is of paramount spiritual practice.  Now that the 
> > health threatening mechanisms of GMO's to the human system is figured out I 
> > certainly feel it is urgent and fair warning to meditators on this forum 
> > and everywhere to be aware of the danger GMO's may pose to our Dome group 
> > meditation numbers. Forewarned is forearmed; Avert the danger before it 
> > arrives,
> > -Buck
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> But secondly for FFL, I think it is interesting that epigenetics becomes the 
> more subtle mechanism in the physiology with either the case of GMO's 
> activating the negative and unhealthy expression of genes like the most 
> progressive science on meditation now is revealing the positive and healthful 
> influence of meditation at the epigenetic level of the physiology.  Like, 
> along with readings in the Upanishads also read epigenetics.
> -Buck
 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > On 05/23/2013 03:40 PM, Buck wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > >> Hey Buck, been meaning to ask you how many farmers in the Fairfield 
> > > >> area
> > > >> are still using Monsanto products and raising GMO crops especially 
> > > >> corn?
> > > >>
> > > > How many?  The vast majority plant GMO corn or soy.  Either by number 
> > > > of farmers or acreage. Corn crop more than soy usually.  Farmers are 
> > > > driven by markets.  There are some who do not plant GMO corn or soy 
> > > > either planting organic or conventional corn or soy.  Driven by market 
> > > > price they still plant GMO mostly.  That will change as consumers 
> > > > realize the problem with eating GMO fed meat and GMO ingredients in 
> > > > food otherwise.  Smart farmers are hedging already what they plant.
> > > >
> > > > Organic corn and soy has not worked out so well economically so a lot 
> > > > of farmers have pulled back from that.  Corn and soy are commodity 
> > > > grains the planting of which is mostly driven by price. Corn and soy 
> > > > prices have been going crazy as commodity the last few years which has 
> > > > pulled a lot more acres back in to row crop production and out of 
> > > > forage production.  Quite visibly there is a lot of highly erodible 
> > > > ground that has no business being with row crops on it being farmed 
> > > > with corn and soy this year.  It is really obscene to see what is 
> > > > happening and how fast the soil is going downhill.
> > > >
> > > > About the markets, I called a buyer yesterday and he said there was 
> > > > more buzz around this subject of GMO crop from his consumer buyers 
> > > > asking.  There is starting to be an awareness of the problem.  GMO crop 
> > > > farmers well could be left holding the bag by next winter.
> > > > -Buck
> > > >  
> > > >   
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the info.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[Buck]

But secondly for FFL, I think it is interesting that epigenetics becomes the 
more subtle mechanism in the physiology with either the case of GMO's 
activating the negative and unhealthy expression of genes like the most 
progressive science on meditation now is revealing the positive and healthful 
influence of meditation at the epigenetic level of the physiology.  Like, along 
with readings in the Upanishads also read epigenetics.
-Buck
>
> Om, So what is the connection between GMO's and the larger matters of 
> spirituality we discuss on FFL?  So why would Buck a conservative meditator 
> be spending any time on FFL writing about GMO's  where FFL and FF as a 
> community more ideally are about and well should be about things spiritual 
> and spiritual Fairfield.  Well, obviously firstly I am most interested in the 
> welfare of the Dome meditation and the numbers of meditators meditating 
> together.  Science and our long spiritual experience here clearly shows us 
> that meditating together is of paramount spiritual practice.  Now that the 
> health threatening mechanisms of GMO's to the human system is figured out I 
> certainly feel it is urgent and fair warning to meditators on this forum and 
> everywhere to be aware of the danger GMO's may pose to our Dome group 
> meditation numbers. Forewarned is forearmed; Avert the danger before it 
> arrives,
> -Buck
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > On 05/23/2013 03:40 PM, Buck wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >> Hey Buck, been meaning to ask you how many farmers in the Fairfield area
> > >> are still using Monsanto products and raising GMO crops especially corn?
> > >>
> > > How many?  The vast majority plant GMO corn or soy.  Either by number of 
> > > farmers or acreage. Corn crop more than soy usually.  Farmers are driven 
> > > by markets.  There are some who do not plant GMO corn or soy either 
> > > planting organic or conventional corn or soy.  Driven by market price 
> > > they still plant GMO mostly.  That will change as consumers realize the 
> > > problem with eating GMO fed meat and GMO ingredients in food otherwise.  
> > > Smart farmers are hedging already what they plant.
> > >
> > > Organic corn and soy has not worked out so well economically so a lot of 
> > > farmers have pulled back from that.  Corn and soy are commodity grains 
> > > the planting of which is mostly driven by price. Corn and soy prices have 
> > > been going crazy as commodity the last few years which has pulled a lot 
> > > more acres back in to row crop production and out of forage production.  
> > > Quite visibly there is a lot of highly erodible ground that has no 
> > > business being with row crops on it being farmed with corn and soy this 
> > > year.  It is really obscene to see what is happening and how fast the 
> > > soil is going downhill.
> > >
> > > About the markets, I called a buyer yesterday and he said there was more 
> > > buzz around this subject of GMO crop from his consumer buyers asking.  
> > > There is starting to be an awareness of the problem.  GMO crop farmers 
> > > well could be left holding the bag by next winter.
> > > -Buck
> > >  
> > >   
> > 
> > Thanks for the info.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[Buck]

Om, So what is the connection between GMO's and the larger matters of 
spirituality we discuss on FFL?  So why would Buck a conservative meditator be 
spending any time on FFL writing about GMO's  where FFL and FF as a community 
more ideally are about and well should be about things spiritual and spiritual 
Fairfield.  Well, obviously firstly I am most interested in the welfare of the 
Dome meditation and the numbers of meditators meditating together.  Science and 
our long spiritual experience here clearly shows us that meditating together is 
of paramount spiritual practice.  Now that the health threatening mechanisms of 
GMO's to the human system is figured out I certainly feel it is urgent and fair 
warning to meditators on this forum and everywhere to be aware of the danger 
GMO's may pose to our Dome group meditation numbers. Forewarned is forearmed; 
Avert the danger before it arrives,
-Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 05/23/2013 03:40 PM, Buck wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> Hey Buck, been meaning to ask you how many farmers in the Fairfield area
> >> are still using Monsanto products and raising GMO crops especially corn?
> >>
> > How many?  The vast majority plant GMO corn or soy.  Either by number of 
> > farmers or acreage. Corn crop more than soy usually.  Farmers are driven by 
> > markets.  There are some who do not plant GMO corn or soy either planting 
> > organic or conventional corn or soy.  Driven by market price they still 
> > plant GMO mostly.  That will change as consumers realize the problem with 
> > eating GMO fed meat and GMO ingredients in food otherwise.  Smart farmers 
> > are hedging already what they plant.
> >
> > Organic corn and soy has not worked out so well economically so a lot of 
> > farmers have pulled back from that.  Corn and soy are commodity grains the 
> > planting of which is mostly driven by price. Corn and soy prices have been 
> > going crazy as commodity the last few years which has pulled a lot more 
> > acres back in to row crop production and out of forage production.  Quite 
> > visibly there is a lot of highly erodible ground that has no business being 
> > with row crops on it being farmed with corn and soy this year.  It is 
> > really obscene to see what is happening and how fast the soil is going 
> > downhill.
> >
> > About the markets, I called a buyer yesterday and he said there was more 
> > buzz around this subject of GMO crop from his consumer buyers asking.  
> > There is starting to be an awareness of the problem.  GMO crop farmers well 
> > could be left holding the bag by next winter.
> > -Buck
> >  
> >   
> 
> Thanks for the info.
>

[FairfieldLife] Pope Francis Says Atheists Who Do Good Are Redeemed

[srijau]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/pope-francis-good-atheists_n_3320757.html

[FairfieldLife] double consciousness of Christ

[srijau]

a new Roman Catholicism is being born
"God is infinite, eternal consciousness"
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/resources/apologetics/jesus/the-double-consciousness-of-christ-by-bertrand-de-margerie-sj/

[FairfieldLife] organized-crime-related-homicides-in-mexico-down-18-pct

[srijau]

http://www.laprensasa.com/309_america-in-english/2046436_organized-crime-related-homicides-in-mexico-down-18-pct.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Total. Complete. Astouding. Absolute. Paradigm. Shift.

[sound of stillness]

God is not an object that can be seen. God is the subject. He is the seer. 
Don't concern your­self with objects that can be seen. Find out who the seer is.

- Ramana Maharishi

The awareness that I am does not belong to me. I am it because I belong to it, 
because I am a part of it.

It is what is constantly selving, bodying, sensing, feeling and thinking itself 
both as`me' and as all that is `not-me'.

— Peter Wilberg

Very deep is the well of the past. Should we call it bottomless?

The deeper we sound the further down into the lower world of the past we probe 
and press, the more do we find that the earliest foundations of humanity, its 
history and culture, reveal themselves unfathomable.

— Thomas Mann

If every effect has a cause and every cause an effect, is there a chance for 
chance?

— Anon

Avoid the danger that has not yet arisen.

— Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

God is not an object that can be seen. God is the subject. He is the seer. 
Don't concern your­self with objects that can be seen. Find out who the seer is.

- Ramana Maharishi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
>
> http://m.guardiannews.com/science/2013/may/23/eric-weinstein-answer-physics-problems
> 
> Holy moly what a breakthrough.  
> 
> What are the physics of Shiva's bones, now, eh?
> 
> It is like we just like when Einstein published his theory in 1905 -- this 
> changes everything.
> 
> I'm squirming in delight.
> 
> Edg
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Total. Complete. Astouding. Absolute. Paradigm. Shift.

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 05/23/2013 04:43 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
> > http://m.guardiannews.com/science/2013/may/23/eric-weinstein-answer-physics-problems
> >
> > Holy moly what a breakthrough.
> >
> > What are the physics of Shiva's bones, now, eh?
> >
> > It is like we just like when Einstein published his theory in 1905 -- this 
> > changes everything.
> >
> > I'm squirming in delight.
> >
> > Edg
> 
> /Weinstein begins the paper in which he explains his proposal with a 
> quote from Einstein: "What really interests me is whether God had any 
> choice in the creation of the world." Weinstein's theory answers this in 
> spades. Very little in the universe is arbitrary. The mathematics 
> explains why it should work the way it does. If this isn't a description 
> of how our universe works then frankly I'd prefer to move to the 
> universe where it does!/
> 
> Still thinking the universe was created by a magic man in the sky? God 
> is just being.

This is just science, Bhairitu, relax. (And Einstein's remark
was metaphorical.)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Total. Complete. Astouding. Absolute. Paradigm. Shift.

[Bhairitu]

On 05/23/2013 04:43 PM, Duveyoung wrote:

http://m.guardiannews.com/science/2013/may/23/eric-weinstein-answer-physics-problems

Holy moly what a breakthrough.

What are the physics of Shiva's bones, now, eh?

It is like we just like when Einstein published his theory in 1905 -- this 
changes everything.

I'm squirming in delight.

Edg




/Weinstein begins the paper in which he explains his proposal with a 
quote from Einstein: "What really interests me is whether God had any 
choice in the creation of the world." Weinstein's theory answers this in 
spades. Very little in the universe is arbitrary. The mathematics 
explains why it should work the way it does. If this isn't a description 
of how our universe works then frankly I'd prefer to move to the 
universe where it does!/


Still thinking the universe was created by a magic man in the sky? God 
is just being.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I was thinking that if a person had transcendental dreams, 
> > > then the solutions to problems in the waking consciousness 
> > > would be rehearsed and reenacted during the dream state in 
> > > a blissful way. He or she would then actually perform a 
> > > creative solution during the waking state to fix the 
> > > problem, whether it be in relationships or work issues.
> > 
> > Sometimes John's cluelessness amazes me, even after 
> > all this time. There can never be any such thing as
> > a remembered "transcendental dream," because if it
> > had any attributes you can remember, it wasn't 
> > transcendental. 
> > 
> > If you disagree, describe a period of "transcendence" 
> > that you experienced in TM for me. In detail. I'll 
> > wait...  :-)
> >
> Okay, I'll start, but it might be a while before you hear anything, perhaps 
> forever, so in the spirit of anticipation, hold your breath until you hear 
> from me.
> 
> This tread got me thinking 'is anything transcendental'? The mind imagines 
> that there is a 'transcendent', but is there? Whatever we might think about 
> the nature of consciousness, we all have experiences, which in aggregate is 
> just experience. If we define experience in general, as a field, nothing 
> happens outside experience in general whether the experience is something 
> like a coffee pot, or what we call transcendence in meditation. But 
> transcendence is not outside experience, it is just another flavour or qualia 
> of experience.

If you want to *redefine* experience as a "field,"
maybe you could get away with this. But by the normal
definition of "experience," transcendental pure
consciousness in meditation (no thoughts, no mantra)
isn't "an experience," it's the *absence* of experience,
beyond experience. As Barry points out, it's
attributeless, qualia-less.

By "transcendental dream," John was most likely
referring to witnessing the experience of dreaming,
not having a dream of the transcendent. Barry could
have figured that out, but he preferred to ignore
what John wrote ("problems...rehearsed and reenacted
during the dream state in a blissful way") so he
could put John down.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Free Burgers for life! :-)

[Mike Dixon]

Wow! Does he get fries and a drink? What about super size? I think it would be 
great if the Raj would offer a free PK once a year to *purge* some of the 
effects of all those burgers.


From: wgm4u 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:56 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Free Burgers for life! :-)

  
Charles Ramsey, who helped free Cleveland kidnap victims, gets burgers for life
Print  By Joe Crea, The Plain Dealer Follow on Twitter on May 22, 2013 at 3:45 
PM, updated May 22, 2013 at 4:01 PM 

 

  

 
 Email 
  
The Ramsey Burger, created by chef Chris Hodgson to honor hero Charles Ramsey, 
was only the beginning...Courtesy, Driftwood Restaurants 
Apparently, creating a special hamburger to honor Charles Ramsey was just the 
beginning. 
Now, the hero in the rescue of four kidnap victims held captive on Cleveland's 
West Side for roughly 10 years will enjoy free burgers for life. 
More than a dozen Northeast Ohio restaurants have pledged an offer of a burger 
anytime Ramsey wants to stop by and dig in. AMP 150 at the Marriott Cleveland 
Airport; Washington Place Bistro and Inn in Little Italy; Fahrenheit restaurant 
in Tremont; Market Garden Brewery, Bier Markt, Bar Cento and Nano Brew in Ohio 
City; Welshfield Inn in Troy Township; Hodges and Pura Vida in downtown 
Cleveland; 87 West at Crocker Park in Westlake; Orchard House restaurant in 
Brunswick; Flour restaurant in Moreland Hills, and the Allegheny Grille in 
Foxburg, Pennsylvania, have joined in the offer. 
The burger tribute was inspired by Ramsey, who stopped eating his meal of a Big 
Mac to intervene and aid the escape of Amanda Berry and her daughter, along 
with Gina DeJesus and Michelle Knight. 
Onlookers, media speak to Charles Ramsey (center) after he helped free Amanda 
Berry from 10 years being held captive in a west side Cleveland home.Scott 
Shaw, The Plain Dealer 
Soon afterward, Hodges restaurant, where Ramsey works as a dishwasher, created 
the Ramsey Burger, a play on a Big Mac. 
"It's an 8-ounce burger of Certified Angus Beef, with a secret sauce," says 
chef-co-owner Chris Hodgson. Initially offered as a weeklong special, the 
sandwich has been promoted to permanent status on Hodges' menu. 
Which got Hodgson's partner, Scott Kuhn of Driftwood Restaurant Group, thinking 
a bigger tribute was due. 
"We want to honor our local hero with local food," said Kuhn, who operates four 
of the restaurants participating in the offer. "He stopped his meal midway 
through to help those women. We're now making sure he has other opportunities 
to go out and fully enjoy his burger." 
A single-edition "Chuck Card," good for life, is being stamped in Ramsey's 
honor. Anytime that Ramsey takes the card into one of the participating 
restaurants, he'll get a free burger. 
"I'm sure some places will give him more -- maybe add fries and a soft drink -- 
but that will be up to them," Kuhn says. 
Ramsey, who has been traveling during a paid leave from his job at Hodges, was 
not available for comment. The Chuck Card will be formally presented to him 
when he returns to Cleveland. 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Total. Complete. Astouding. Absolute. Paradigm. Shift.

[Duveyoung]

And the paralax view is:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Physics/comments/1ewuiq/eric_weinstein_may_have_found_the_answer_to/

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
>
> http://m.guardiannews.com/science/2013/may/23/eric-weinstein-answer-physics-problems
> 
> Holy moly what a breakthrough.  
> 
> What are the physics of Shiva's bones, now, eh?
> 
> It is like we just like when Einstein published his theory in 1905 -- this 
> changes everything.
> 
> I'm squirming in delight.
> 
> Edg
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[Bhairitu]

On 05/23/2013 03:40 PM, Buck wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> Hey Buck, been meaning to ask you how many farmers in the Fairfield area
>> are still using Monsanto products and raising GMO crops especially corn?
>>
> How many?  The vast majority plant GMO corn or soy.  Either by number of 
> farmers or acreage. Corn crop more than soy usually.  Farmers are driven by 
> markets.  There are some who do not plant GMO corn or soy either planting 
> organic or conventional corn or soy.  Driven by market price they still plant 
> GMO mostly.  That will change as consumers realize the problem with eating 
> GMO fed meat and GMO ingredients in food otherwise.  Smart farmers are 
> hedging already what they plant.
>
> Organic corn and soy has not worked out so well economically so a lot of 
> farmers have pulled back from that.  Corn and soy are commodity grains the 
> planting of which is mostly driven by price. Corn and soy prices have been 
> going crazy as commodity the last few years which has pulled a lot more acres 
> back in to row crop production and out of forage production.  Quite visibly 
> there is a lot of highly erodible ground that has no business being with row 
> crops on it being farmed with corn and soy this year.  It is really obscene 
> to see what is happening and how fast the soil is going downhill.
>
> About the markets, I called a buyer yesterday and he said there was more buzz 
> around this subject of GMO crop from his consumer buyers asking.  There is 
> starting to be an awareness of the problem.  GMO crop farmers well could be 
> left holding the bag by next winter.
> -Buck
>  
>   

Thanks for the info.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Total. Complete. Astouding. Absolute. Paradigm. Shift.

[Duveyoung]

Yeah yeah, "astounding."  Sigh.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
>
> http://m.guardiannews.com/science/2013/may/23/eric-weinstein-answer-physics-problems
> 
> Holy moly what a breakthrough.  
> 
> What are the physics of Shiva's bones, now, eh?
> 
> It is like we just like when Einstein published his theory in 1905 -- this 
> changes everything.
> 
> I'm squirming in delight.
> 
> Edg
>

[FairfieldLife] Total. Complete. Astouding. Absolute. Paradigm. Shift.

[Duveyoung]

http://m.guardiannews.com/science/2013/may/23/eric-weinstein-answer-physics-problems

Holy moly what a breakthrough.  

What are the physics of Shiva's bones, now, eh?

It is like we just like when Einstein published his theory in 1905 -- this 
changes everything.

I'm squirming in delight.

Edg  

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > I was thinking that if a person had transcendental dreams, 
> > then the solutions to problems in the waking consciousness 
> > would be rehearsed and reenacted during the dream state in 
> > a blissful way. He or she would then actually perform a 
> > creative solution during the waking state to fix the 
> > problem, whether it be in relationships or work issues.
> 
> Sometimes John's cluelessness amazes me, even after 
> all this time. There can never be any such thing as
> a remembered "transcendental dream," because if it
> had any attributes you can remember, it wasn't 
> transcendental. 
> 
> If you disagree, describe a period of "transcendence" 
> that you experienced in TM for me. In detail. I'll 
> wait...  :-)
>
Okay, I'll start, but it might be a while before you hear anything, perhaps 
forever, so in the spirit of anticipation, hold your breath until you hear from 
me.

This tread got me thinking 'is anything transcendental'? The mind imagines that 
there is a 'transcendent', but is there? Whatever we might think about the 
nature of consciousness, we all have experiences, which in aggregate is just 
experience. If we define experience in general, as a field, nothing happens 
outside experience in general whether the experience is something like a coffee 
pot, or what we call transcendence in meditation. But transcendence is not 
outside experience, it is just another flavour or qualia of experience. 

So it is not really outside or beyond, and hence, no transcendence, except as a 
name applied with a certain slant as to meaning. That means experience is all 
we have, and there is nothing else in general except this, and we have had it 
all our lives. While the mind can imagine something more than this exists, 
those thoughts are just within experience in general, and so do not signify 
anything, other than perhaps we are crazy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Hey Buck, been meaning to ask you how many farmers in the Fairfield area 
> are still using Monsanto products and raising GMO crops especially corn?
>

How many?  The vast majority plant GMO corn or soy.  Either by number of 
farmers or acreage. Corn crop more than soy usually.  Farmers are driven by 
markets.  There are some who do not plant GMO corn or soy either planting 
organic or conventional corn or soy.  Driven by market price they still plant 
GMO mostly.  That will change as consumers realize the problem with eating GMO 
fed meat and GMO ingredients in food otherwise.  Smart farmers are hedging 
already what they plant.  

Organic corn and soy has not worked out so well economically so a lot of 
farmers have pulled back from that.  Corn and soy are commodity grains the 
planting of which is mostly driven by price. Corn and soy prices have been 
going crazy as commodity the last few years which has pulled a lot more acres 
back in to row crop production and out of forage production.  Quite visibly 
there is a lot of highly erodible ground that has no business being with row 
crops on it being farmed with corn and soy this year.  It is really obscene to 
see what is happening and how fast the soil is going downhill.  

About the markets, I called a buyer yesterday and he said there was more buzz 
around this subject of GMO crop from his consumer buyers asking.  There is 
starting to be an awareness of the problem.  GMO crop farmers well could be 
left holding the bag by next winter.
-Buck  

 
> On 05/23/2013 12:09 PM, Buck wrote:
> > Read what is coming out.  You'd be nuts to be buying and consuming food 
> > that has GMO ingredients in it.  It's like no wonder.
> > -B
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Free Burgers for life! :-)

[wgm4u]

Charles Ramsey, who helped free Cleveland kidnap victims, gets burgers
for lifePrint
   [Joe Crea, The
Plain Dealer]
  By
Joe Crea, The Plain Dealer 

Follow on Twitter 
on May 22, 2013 at  3:45 PM, updated May 22, 2013 at  4:01 PM




Email
 


  [charles-ramsey-burger-hodges-crop.jpg] The Ramsey Burger, created by
chef Chris Hodgson to honor hero Charles Ramsey, was only the
beginning...Courtesy, Driftwood Restaurants

Apparently, creating a special hamburger to honor Charles Ramsey was
just the beginning.

Now, the hero in the rescue of four kidnap victims held captive on 
Cleveland's West Side for roughly 10 years will enjoy free burgers for 
life.

More than a dozen Northeast Ohio restaurants have pledged an offer of a
burger anytime Ramsey wants to stop by and dig in. AMP 150
  at the Marriott Cleveland Airport; Washington
Place Bistro and Inn   in
Little Italy; Fahrenheit   restaurant
in Tremont; Market Garden Brewery 
, Bier Markt  , Bar Cento
  and Nano Brew
  in Ohio City; Welshfield Inn
  in Troy Township; Hodges
  and Pura Vida
  in downtown Cleveland; 87 West at
Crocker Park   in Westlake; Orchard House
  restaurant in Brunswick; Flour
  restaurant in Moreland Hills, and the
Allegheny Grille   in Foxburg,
Pennsylvania, have joined in the offer.

The burger tribute was inspired by Ramsey, who stopped eating his  meal
of a Big Mac to intervene and aid the escape of Amanda Berry and  her
daughter, along with Gina DeJesus and Michelle Knight.


  [RAMSEY-CROWD_SHOT.JPG] Onlookers,  media speak to Charles Ramsey
(center) after he helped free Amanda  Berry from 10 years being held
captive in a west side Cleveland home.Scott Shaw, The Plain Dealer

Soon afterward, Hodges restaurant, where Ramsey works as a dishwasher,
created the Ramsey Burger, a play on a Big Mac.

"It's an 8-ounce burger of Certified Angus Beef, with a secret  sauce,"
says chef-co-owner Chris Hodgson. Initially offered as a  weeklong
special, the sandwich has been promoted to permanent status on  Hodges'
menu.

Which got Hodgson's partner, Scott Kuhn of Driftwood Restaurant Group
 , thinking a bigger
tribute was due.

"We want to honor our local hero with local food," said Kuhn, who 
operates four of the restaurants participating in the offer. "He stopped
his meal midway through to help those women. We're now making sure he 
has other opportunities to go out and fully enjoy his burger."

A single-edition "Chuck Card," good for life, is being stamped in 
Ramsey's honor. Anytime that Ramsey takes the card into one of the 
participating restaurants, he'll get a free burger.

"I'm sure some places will give him more -- maybe add fries and a soft
drink -- but that will be up to them," Kuhn says.

Ramsey, who has been traveling during a paid leave from his job at 
Hodges, was not available for comment. The Chuck Card will be formally 
presented to him when he returns to Cleveland.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Have you ever noticed that the Hate Brigade tends to
> justify why they obsess on me by coming up with 
> metaphors for how *much* what I say *bothers* them?
> 
> And then they give speeches about "non-attachment."
> Go figure. 
> 
> If I were to come up with a metaphor for how much
> the things Ann or Jimbo or Judy or Ravi say affect
> me...uh...let's see. Using Ann's tortured metaphor
> syntax (she really *did* learn to Write Badly from
> Robin, didn't she?):
> 
> * Think of a gnat flying through a room, making so
> little impact on the room that the only ones who
> even notice its existence are other gnats. 
> 
> That's all I can come up with. Sorry...  :-)

> 
> Really. Does the spoiled little rich girl

Hey, I thought you liked rich. She bought you drinks and dinner the other night 
under the stars of Gay Pareee. Granted, I've never bought you anything but 
that's no reason to pick on me. :-((

 
>think that people actually CARE what she thinks of them?
> Or that they have any reaction whatsoever?
> 
> THAT is the whole issue. They are convinced that
> people CARE about the things they say, as if they
> "mattered." They don't. They're gnats. The only
> thing one can do with gnats -- out of compassion,
> you understand -- is to remind them every so often
> of their gnatitudeness.  :-)
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Barry Wright wants attention
> > > 
> > > Why do you lot give him so much if you object to it?
> > 
> > Let's see if I can explain it.
> > 
> > Think of a dead rat in the wall and what it smells like.
> > Imagine sawdust in your underwear.
> > Cogitate on those times when you got a bug in your eye and it burns.
> > Recollect that cucumber you leave about three weeks too long in the fridge.
> > Put your mind back to the time you have a pebble in your shoe on a long 
> > hike.
> > Reminisce on those instances when the party upstairs keeps you awake until 
> > 3 am and you have to get up at 6. 
> > 
> > In all these instances you wish it would just go away and leave you alone. 
> > The longer you wait and do nothing the worse it will get or at least stay 
> > the same (unpleasant). So in the spirit of optimism and hope one takes 
> > action. In most instances one can rectify any one of the above situations. 
> > In Barry's case the smell, the itch, the burn, the slime, the ache and 
> > noise (in that order from the examples above)is a lot harder to make go 
> > away/stop. And anyway, he loves the attention so at least there is that. I 
> > don't begrudge him a little attention, I've got lots to give.
> > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Barry Wright loves attention
> > > > 
> > > > Barry Wright would kill for attention
> > > > 
> > > > Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he accuses 
> > > > others of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, psychologist 
> > > > who follow attachment theory may call him dismissive-avoidant.
> > > > 
> > > > He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at others being 
> > > > TB's.
> > > > 
> > > > Share and Xeno are his fans.
> > > > 
> > > > Pathetic.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On May 23, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
> > > > > > really give much of a shit what other people think
> > > > > > of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
> > > > > > that while he claims he doesn't give much of
> > > > > > a shit what other people think of what he is,
> > > > > > he still obviously wants to make absolutely
> > > > > > sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well that worked. :-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> > > > > > > always the same -- "**I** am > > being enlightened or even 
> > > > > > > halfway intelligent here> and 
> > > > > > > you're not!!!" 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
> > > > > > > week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and 
> > > > > > > reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I 
> > > > > > > figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your 
> > > > > > > buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm 
> > > > > > > not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
> > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Monsanto Has Been Removed And Banned By:

[nablusoss1008]

Monsanto Has Been Removed And Banned By: Austria, Bulgaria, Germany,
Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Japan, Luxembourg, Madeira, New Zealand, Peru,
South Australia, Russia, France, and Switzerland!
  Posted on  March 23, 2013
  by Volubrjotr 
  [monsanto] 


(NaturalNews) By now, most of us are aware of the GMO problem and the
political corruption akin to it.

Monsanto   claims that GMOs
  are safe.

This was the same comment made by the tobacco companies back in the 40s
and early 50s regarding cigarette smoking.

* Take Action: Repeal the Monsanto Protection Act!

* New Zealand's Food And Environment Is GMO Free: Petition For
Continued Moratorium On GMOs!




  [gmo monsanto] 


Now we know without a doubt that smoking and lung and throat cancer are
kissing cousins. Because GMOs have been around for 15 years or so, with
no long-term studies other than Monsanto's being done, we only have
Monsanto's word that GMOs are safe.

1. Monsanto Killer Cults: Obama USA & Harper Canada ~ Deregulates
International Borders For Streamlining Monsanto GMO Foods That Are
Linked To Organ Failure.

2. Alabama & Oklahoma Ban NWO Agenda 21 Banking Scheme: States At War
With Their Over Taken Federal Corporation!


  [monsanto-children-of-the-corn.jpg.pagespeed.ce.RtQAzZKGJU] 


Fortunately, there have been studies done by Michael Antoniou of Earth
Open Source and Dr. Giles-Eric Seralini of the University of Caan in
France that say otherwise.

1. Big Milk & Big Dairy To Add Monsanto's Aspartame!


What Antoniou and Seralini have found is that GMOs, which are inundated
with pesticides like RoundUp Ready
  containing
glyphosate and 2-4-D, the active ingredient in Agent Orange
 , create numerous health
problems, including birth defects, cancer, neurological imbalances,
embryonic deaths, DNA damage, and fetal death. It's not rocket
science to understand that when you eat a steady diet of these horrible
chemicals, you will suffer disastrous health ramifications despite the
fact that the GMO crops are designed to resist the heavy poisoning of
the pesticides and herbicides.

So, where does the corruption tie in? Obviously with the politicians.

We know that when Obama campaigned in 2008, he promised he would label
GMOs. When elected, not only did he renege on that promise but
immediately appointed former Monsanto VP and attorney Michael Taylor,
aka "Monsanto   Mike",
as the Head of Food Safety at the Fraud and Drug Administration and Tom
Vilsack  , another biotech
hooker, as the Secretary of Agriculture.

I don't know about other States, but in Hawaii
 , from the Governor on
down, almost all the Legislators have been bought, with none wanting to
bite the hand that feeds them.

In Hawaii, Monsanto has six registered lobbyists – John Radcliffe,
George "Red" Morris, Dawn Bicoy, Paul Koehler, Alan Takemoto,
Fred Perlak, and Alicia Maluafiti. Radcliffe and Morris have an iron
grip on our politicians and Maluafiti is the Executive Director of the
Hawaii Crop Improvement Association and along with Radcliffe and Morris,
they have bought off with thousands of dolla

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote:
>
> http://www.foodrevolution.org/blog/former-pro-gmo-scientist/
>
> Former Pro-GMO Scientist Speaks Out On The Real Dangers of Genetically
> Engineered Food Published May 11, 2013 | By Ocean Robbins
>
>
> By Thierry Vrain
>
> I retired 10 years ago after a long career as a research scientist for
> Agriculture Canada. When I was on the payroll, I was the designated
> scientist of my institute to address public groups and reassure them
that
> genetically engineered crops and foods were safe. There is, however, a
> growing body of scientific research - done mostly in Europe, Russia,
and
> other countries - showing that diets containing engineered corn or
soya
> cause serious health problems in laboratory mice and rats.
>
> I don't know if I was passionate about it but I was knowledgeable. I
> defended the side of technological advance, of science and progress.
>
> In the last 10 years I have changed my position. I started paying
attention
> to the flow of published studies coming from Europe, some from
prestigious
> labs and published in prestigious scientific journals, that questioned
the
> impact and safety of engineered food.
>
> I refute the claims of the biotechnology companies that their
engineered
> crops yield more, that they require less pesticide applications, that
they
> have no impact on the environment and of course that they are safe to
eat.
>
> There are a number of scientific studies that have been done for
Monsanto by
> universities in the U.S., Canada, and abroad. Most of these studies
are
> concerned with the field performance of the engineered crops, and of
course
> they find GMOs safe for the environment and therefore safe to eat.
>
> Individuals should be encouraged to make their decisions on food
safety
> based on scientific evidence and personal choice, not on emotion or
the
> personal opinions of others.
>
> We should all take these studies seriously and demand that government
> agencies replicate them rather than rely on studies paid for by the
biotech
> companies.
>
> The Bt corn and soya plants that are now everywhere in our environment
are
> registered as insecticides. But are these insecticidal plants
regulated and
> have their proteins been tested for safety? Not by the federal
departments
> in charge of food safety, not in Canada and not in the U.S.
>
> There are no long-term feeding studies performed in these countries to
> demonstrate the claims that engineered corn and soya are safe. All we
have
> are scientific studies out of Europe and Russia, showing that rats fed
> engineered food die prematurely.
>
> These studies show that proteins produced by engineered plants are
different
> than what they should be. Inserting a gene in a genome using this
technology
> can and does result in damaged proteins. The scientific literature is
full
> of studies showing that engineered corn and soya contain toxic or
allergenic
> proteins.
>
> Genetic engineering is 40 years old. It is based on the naive
understanding
> of the genome based on the One Gene - one protein hypothesis of 70
years
> ago, that each gene codes for a single protein. The Human Genome
project
> completed in 2002 showed that this hypothesis is wrong.
>
> The whole paradigm of the genetic engineering technology is based on a
> misunderstanding. Every scientist now learns that any gene can give
more
> than one protein and that inserting a gene anywhere in a plant
eventually
> creates rogue proteins. Some of these proteins are obviously
allergenic or
> toxic.
>
> I have drafted a reply to Paul Horgen's letter to the Comox Valley
> Environmental Council. It is my wish that it goes viral as to educate
as
> many people as possible rapidly. Any and all social media is fine by
me.
> This can also be used as a briefing note for the councilors of AVICC
or
> anywhere else. Thank you for your help. [Click here for original
source with
> replies from Dr. Paul Horgen]
>
> I am turning you towards a recent compilation (June 2012) of over 500
> government reports and scientific articles published in peer reviewed
> Journals, some of them with the highest recognition in the world. Like
The
> Lancet in the medical field, or Advances in Food and Nutrition
Research, or
> Biotechnology, or Scandinavian Journal of Immunology, European Journal
of
> Histochemistry, Journal of Proteome Research, etc â?¦ This
compilation was
> made by a genetic engineer in London, and an investigative journalist
who
> summarized the gist of the publications for the lay public.
>
> GMO Myths and Truths - an evidence based examination of the claims
made for
> the safety and efficacy of genetically modified crops. A report of 120
> pages, it can be downloaded for free from Earth Open Source. "GMO
Myths and
> Truths" disputes the claims of the Biotech industry that GM crops
yield
> better and more nutritious food, that they save on the use of
pesticides,
> have no environmental impact whatsoever and are p

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[Bhairitu]

Hey Buck, been meaning to ask you how many farmers in the Fairfield area 
are still using Monsanto products and raising GMO crops especially corn?

On 05/23/2013 12:09 PM, Buck wrote:
> Read what is coming out.  You'd be nuts to be buying and consuming food that 
> has GMO ingredients in it.  It's like no wonder.
> -B
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Hungary Destroys All Monsanto GMO Corn Fields

[nablusoss1008]

  [burning-gmo] 

Hungary has taken a bold stand against biotech giant Monsanto
  and genetic modification by destroying 1000
acres of maize found to have been grown with genetically modified seeds,
according to Hungary deputy state secretary of the Ministry of Rural
Development Lajos Bognar. Unlike many European Union countries, Hungary
is a nation where genetically modified (GM) seeds are banned. In a
similar stance against GM ingredients, Peru has also passed a 10 year
ban
  on GM foods.

Almost 1000 acres of maize found to have been ground with genetically
modified seeds have been destroyed throughout Hungary, deputy state
secretary of the Ministry of Rural Development Lajos Bognar said. The
GMO maize has been ploughed under, said Lajos Bognar, but pollen has not
spread from the maize, he added.

Unlike several EU members, GMO seeds are banned in Hungary. The checks
will continue despite the fact that seek traders are obliged to make
sure that their products are GMO free, Bognar said.

During the invesigation, controllers have found Pioneer Monsanto
products among the seeds planted.

The free movement of goods within the EU means that authorities will not
investigate how the seeds arrived in Hungary, but they will check where
the goods can be found, Bognar said. Regional public radio reported that
the two biggest international seed producing companies are affected in
the matter and GMO seeds could have been sown on up to the thousands of
hectares in the country. Most of the local farmers have complained since
they just discovered they were using GMO seeds.

With season already under way, it is too late to sow new seeds, so this
years harvest has been lost.

And to make things even worse for the farmers, the company that
distributed the seeds in Baranya county is under liquidation. Therefore,
if any compensation is paid by the international seed producers, the
money will be paid primarily to that company's creditors, rather
than the farmers.

Read more at
http://www.realfarmacy.com/hungary-destroys-all-monsanto-gmo-corn-fields\
/#5ljaBmr22G6eQye5.99
 

[FairfieldLife] Mike Judge: Idiocracy is Happening Now

[Bhairitu]

Mike Judge interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NzR_bfvxDZM

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[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[Richard J. Williams]

sparaig:
> Perhaps me meant Witnessing Dreaming?
> 
> Though, I've no reason to think that an 
> arbitrary dream, enlightened or no, is 
> going to be more important to the waking 
> state if one is enlightened or not.
>
A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper 
is aware that he or she is dreaming. 

Lucid dreaming has been researched and its 
existence is apparently very well established.

According to what I've read, in the eighth 
century, Tibetan Buddhists and Bonpo were 
practicing a form of Dream Yoga held to 
maintain full waking consciousness while in 
the dream state. 

One of the important messages of the book is 
the distinction between the Dzogchen meditation 
of Awareness and Dream Yoga. 

The Dzogchen Awareness meditation has also 
been referred to by the terms Rigpa Awareness, 
Contemplation, and Presence. Awareness during
the sleep and dream states is associated with 
the Dzogchen practice of natural light. 

This practice only achieves lucid dreams as a 
secondary effect—in contrast to Dream yoga 
which is aimed primarily at lucid dreaming. 

According to Buddhist teachers, the experience 
of lucidity helps us to understand the 
unreality of phenomena, which would otherwise 
be overwhelming during dream or the death 
experience.

SAMA Screens Film Series: 

'Waking Life' (2001)
Q&A with film director Richard Linklater
San Antonio Museum of Art, May 11, 2001
http://tinyurl.com/2c7wvgc 

> > > I was thinking that if a person had transcendental dreams, 
> > > then the solutions to problems in the waking consciousness 
> > > would be rehearsed and reenacted during the dream state in 
> > > a blissful way. He or she would then actually perform a 
> > > creative solution during the waking state to fix the 
> > > problem, whether it be in relationships or work issues.
> > 
> > Sometimes John's cluelessness amazes me, even after 
> > all this time. There can never be any such thing as
> > a remembered "transcendental dream," because if it
> > had any attributes you can remember, it wasn't 
> > transcendental. 
> > 
> > If you disagree, describe a period of "transcendence" 
> > that you experienced in TM for me. In detail. I'll 
> > wait...  :-)
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Food Replicator

[Bhairitu]

On 05/23/2013 11:42 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>
>> The funny part is whenever I argue biochemical individuality those who
>> don't like the idea assume I'm a big meat eater.  I'm not.  I actually
>> more or less follow the advice the naturopath gave me.  And by metabolic
>> testing I am slightly a carb type.  If I do a low carb diet for any more
>> than a few days I get morose and can't work.  This field of biochemical
>> individuality has been an interest for me since the 1970s.
>>
> I only tried going very low carb a couple times, and I could not get past the 
> brain-splitting headaches that would quickly go away completely after eating 
> a single apple or carrot. One thing I've noticed in my own life and in the 
> written experiences of others in the "paleosphere" is that some people handle 
> fruit (i.e., sugars) better than starches, and vice versa.
>
> Starch digests into pure glucose, and that wreaks havoc on my blood sugar. If 
> I eat the big bowl of rice they sometimes serve with a sashimi platter, I'm 
> likely to fall asleep afterward. But, I just ate three very sweet tangelos, 
> and I'm fine. The sugars found in non-starchy fruits and veggies tend to be a 
> mix of glucose and fructose, which would have less effect on blood sugar than 
> a huge slug of pure glucose. At one point, I was confused because I'd seen 
> two foods I handle just fine described as starchy (carrots and winter 
> squash), but the nutrition databases actually describe them both as being 
> very low in starch.

If one wants more flexibility in their diet then that's where the herbs 
in ayurveda and supplements in metabolic typing come in.  They adjust 
the metabolic rate so carbs don't get absorbed too slow or too fast.  
And you have to keep in mind doing that the metabolic rate may fluctuate 
a bit on it's own and that's why using these may seem difficult for some 
people.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > I was thinking that if a person had transcendental dreams, 
> > then the solutions to problems in the waking consciousness 
> > would be rehearsed and reenacted during the dream state in 
> > a blissful way. He or she would then actually perform a 
> > creative solution during the waking state to fix the 
> > problem, whether it be in relationships or work issues.
> 
> Sometimes John's cluelessness amazes me, even after 
> all this time. There can never be any such thing as
> a remembered "transcendental dream," because if it
> had any attributes you can remember, it wasn't 
> transcendental.

And it likely wasn't a dream, either.

It would have been smarter, Barry, to have asked John
what he meant by "transcendental dream" before labeling
him clueless. It could be that it's you, not him.

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sparaig
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:12 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion â€â€Å" John 
> Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
> , "Rick Archer" mailto:rick@> > wrote:
> >
> > The meditation teacher in the center, I believe, was a long-term TM 
> > teacher, but now perhaps an independent teacher of his own set of 
> > techniques?
> > 
> > Mark McCooey? Nope. Not an independent teacher. No set of techniques.
> > 
> >
> 
> OK, my mistake:
> 
> http://batgap.com/sand-panel-discussion/
> 
> "Mark McCooey is a businessman and has been a teacher of Transcendental 
> Meditation for over 30 years. He and his family live in Vancouver, Canada."
> 
> I just assumed that a TM teacher would have made some mention of MMY if he 
> was still active as a TM teacher.
> 
> Hagelin didn’t, right?
>

True, but Hagelin doesn't teach any more, as far as I know.

It's a very strange thing to see people whose only reason for involvement in 
such a situation was being taught by a man whose sole reason for existence was 
to honor his teacher, not bothering to mention who taught them.

Sad commentary on things.


L

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[authfriend]

The big mystery with Barry is why, after all these years,
he STILL does not realize that folks have seen through him
long since. That's why he can't laugh at himself--he
genuinely does not understand why the rest of us (except
Xeno) find his pathetically obvious fraudulence so hilarious.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Yep - he will scream, yell that he is not affected, that he is not serious, 
> he is having a life, having fun, rapping in cafes, spying on couples, 
> Parisians, Dutch having fun and providing live feeds on FFL. He's being 
> playful, he's a spiritual warrior, Castaneda, tantric Guru, stoic, 
> invulnerable, always aware of other's secondary attention levels, aware of 
> petty tyrants, attention sluts trying to steal his psychic energy.
> 
> Gury Xeno is convinced.
> 
> 
> On May 23, 2013, at 12:16 PM, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > Have you ever noticed how important Barry, FFL's one-man
> > Hate Brigade, feels it is to let us all know how little
> > he's affected by what the folks who are trying to clue
> > him in to himself are saying?
> > 
> > If he were really not affected, he wouldn't worry about
> > whether we thought he was. But he obviously cares a great
> > deal about convincing us that he doesn't care.
> > 
> > Jumping up and down and screaming, "I don't give a shit
> > what you horrible people say about me! I don't care, I
> > don't care, I'm not affected. Look, damn it, I'm not
> > paying you any attention, can't you see? I'm being just
> > as hateful as you all keep saying I am!" doesn't quite
> > convey the impression he wants it to.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you ever noticed that the Hate Brigade tends to
> > > justify why they obsess on me by coming up with 
> > > metaphors for how *much* what I say *bothers* them?
> > > 
> > > And then they give speeches about "non-attachment."
> > > Go figure. 
> > > 
> > > If I were to come up with a metaphor for how much
> > > the things Ann or Jimbo or Judy or Ravi say affect
> > > me...uh...let's see. Using Ann's tortured metaphor
> > > syntax (she really *did* learn to Write Badly from
> > > Robin, didn't she?):
> > > 
> > > * Think of a gnat flying through a room, making so
> > > little impact on the room that the only ones who
> > > even notice its existence are other gnats. 
> > > 
> > > That's all I can come up with. Sorry... :-)
> > > 
> > > Really. Does the spoiled little rich girl think 
> > > that people actually CARE what she thinks of them?
> > > Or that they have any reaction whatsoever?
> > > 
> > > THAT is the whole issue. They are convinced that
> > > people CARE about the things they say, as if they
> > > "mattered." They don't. They're gnats. The only
> > > thing one can do with gnats -- out of compassion,
> > > you understand -- is to remind them every so often
> > > of their gnatitudeness. :-)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Barry Wright wants attention
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why do you lot give him so much if you object to it?
> > > > 
> > > > Let's see if I can explain it.
> > > > 
> > > > Think of a dead rat in the wall and what it smells like.
> > > > Imagine sawdust in your underwear.
> > > > Cogitate on those times when you got a bug in your eye and it burns.
> > > > Recollect that cucumber you leave about three weeks too long in the 
> > > > fridge.
> > > > Put your mind back to the time you have a pebble in your shoe on a long 
> > > > hike.
> > > > Reminisce on those instances when the party upstairs keeps you awake 
> > > > until 3 am and you have to get up at 6. 
> > > > 
> > > > In all these instances you wish it would just go away and leave you 
> > > > alone. The longer you wait and do nothing the worse it will get or at 
> > > > least stay the same (unpleasant). So in the spirit of optimism and hope 
> > > > one takes action. In most instances one can rectify any one of the 
> > > > above situations. In Barry's case the smell, the itch, the burn, the 
> > > > slime, the ache and noise (in that order from the examples above)is a 
> > > > lot harder to make go away/stop. And anyway, he loves the attention so 
> > > > at least there is that. I don't begrudge him a little attention, I've 
> > > > got lots to give.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Barry Wright loves attention
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Barry Wright would kill for attention
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he 
> > > > > > accuses others of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, 
> > > > > > psychologist who follow attachment theory may call him 
> > > > > > dismissive-avoidant.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Ravi Chivukula]

Yep - he will scream, yell that he is not affected, that he is not serious, he 
is having a life, having fun, rapping in cafes, spying on couples, Parisians, 
Dutch having fun and providing live feeds on FFL. He's being playful, he's a 
spiritual warrior, Castaneda, tantric Guru, stoic, invulnerable, always aware 
of other's secondary attention levels, aware of petty tyrants, attention sluts 
trying to steal his psychic energy.

Gury Xeno is convinced.


On May 23, 2013, at 12:16 PM, "authfriend"  wrote:

> Have you ever noticed how important Barry, FFL's one-man
> Hate Brigade, feels it is to let us all know how little
> he's affected by what the folks who are trying to clue
> him in to himself are saying?
> 
> If he were really not affected, he wouldn't worry about
> whether we thought he was. But he obviously cares a great
> deal about convincing us that he doesn't care.
> 
> Jumping up and down and screaming, "I don't give a shit
> what you horrible people say about me! I don't care, I
> don't care, I'm not affected. Look, damn it, I'm not
> paying you any attention, can't you see? I'm being just
> as hateful as you all keep saying I am!" doesn't quite
> convey the impression he wants it to.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Have you ever noticed that the Hate Brigade tends to
> > justify why they obsess on me by coming up with 
> > metaphors for how *much* what I say *bothers* them?
> > 
> > And then they give speeches about "non-attachment."
> > Go figure. 
> > 
> > If I were to come up with a metaphor for how much
> > the things Ann or Jimbo or Judy or Ravi say affect
> > me...uh...let's see. Using Ann's tortured metaphor
> > syntax (she really *did* learn to Write Badly from
> > Robin, didn't she?):
> > 
> > * Think of a gnat flying through a room, making so
> > little impact on the room that the only ones who
> > even notice its existence are other gnats. 
> > 
> > That's all I can come up with. Sorry... :-)
> > 
> > Really. Does the spoiled little rich girl think 
> > that people actually CARE what she thinks of them?
> > Or that they have any reaction whatsoever?
> > 
> > THAT is the whole issue. They are convinced that
> > people CARE about the things they say, as if they
> > "mattered." They don't. They're gnats. The only
> > thing one can do with gnats -- out of compassion,
> > you understand -- is to remind them every so often
> > of their gnatitudeness. :-)
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Barry Wright wants attention
> > > > 
> > > > Why do you lot give him so much if you object to it?
> > > 
> > > Let's see if I can explain it.
> > > 
> > > Think of a dead rat in the wall and what it smells like.
> > > Imagine sawdust in your underwear.
> > > Cogitate on those times when you got a bug in your eye and it burns.
> > > Recollect that cucumber you leave about three weeks too long in the 
> > > fridge.
> > > Put your mind back to the time you have a pebble in your shoe on a long 
> > > hike.
> > > Reminisce on those instances when the party upstairs keeps you awake 
> > > until 3 am and you have to get up at 6. 
> > > 
> > > In all these instances you wish it would just go away and leave you 
> > > alone. The longer you wait and do nothing the worse it will get or at 
> > > least stay the same (unpleasant). So in the spirit of optimism and hope 
> > > one takes action. In most instances one can rectify any one of the above 
> > > situations. In Barry's case the smell, the itch, the burn, the slime, the 
> > > ache and noise (in that order from the examples above)is a lot harder to 
> > > make go away/stop. And anyway, he loves the attention so at least there 
> > > is that. I don't begrudge him a little attention, I've got lots to give.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Barry Wright loves attention
> > > > > 
> > > > > Barry Wright would kill for attention
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he 
> > > > > accuses others of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, 
> > > > > psychologist who follow attachment theory may call him 
> > > > > dismissive-avoidant.
> > > > > 
> > > > > He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at others being 
> > > > > TB's.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Share and Xeno are his fans.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Pathetic.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On May 23, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
> > > > > > > really give much of a shit what other people think
> > > > > > > of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
> > > > > 

[FairfieldLife] 71 worthless souls who voted against GMO labeling

[Bhairitu]

Bought and paid for by big agra here are the 71 worthless Senators who 
voted against Senator Bernie Sanders amendment which would have allowed 
GMO labeling:

Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Baldwin (D-WI)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Brown (D-OH)
Burr (R-NC)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Coons (D-DE)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Cowan (D-MA)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Durbin (D-IL)
 Enzi (R-WY)
Fischer (R-NE)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hagan (D-NC)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kaine (D-VA)
Kirk (R-IL)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lee (R-UT)
Levin (D-MI)
McCain (R-AZ)
 McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Moran (R-KS)
Nelson (D-FL)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Pryor (D-AR)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Scott (R-SC)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Shelby (R-AL)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Udall (D-CO)
Vitter (R-LA)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Wicker (R-MS)

BTW, my two Senators supported the amendment.  More here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/23/gmo-labeling-bill-genetically-modified-food_n_3325972.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[Buck]

The harmful mechanisms of GMO's in the food system for humans ends up being in 
epigenetics.  Jeesuus, people should get religion on this subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics

> 
> >
> > Read what is coming out.  You'd be nuts to be buying and consuming food 
> > that has GMO ingredients in it.  It's like no wonder.
> > -B  
> 
> Yep, at least learn to read food labels and figure out what you are buying 
> and eating. -B   
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > It's true, you proly cannot trust our Ag and bio-tech research coming out 
> > > from USA universities and US research institutes cause it is so paid for 
> > > by Monsanto.  Science and technology is quickly shifting to other places 
> > > anyway.  The sequester is only accelerating that.
> > > -Buck outstanding in his field
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.foodrevolution.org/blog/former-pro-gmo-scientist/
> > > > 
> > > > Former Pro-GMO Scientist Speaks Out On The Real Dangers of Genetically
> > > > Engineered Food Published May 11, 2013 | By Ocean Robbins
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > By Thierry Vrain
> > > > 
> > > > I retired 10 years ago after a long career as a research scientist for
> > > > Agriculture Canada. When I was on the payroll, I was the designated
> > > > scientist of my institute to address public groups and reassure them 
> > > > that
> > > > genetically engineered crops and foods were safe. There is, however, a
> > > > growing body of scientific research - done mostly in Europe, Russia, and
> > > > other countries - showing that diets containing engineered corn or soya
> > > > cause serious health problems in laboratory mice and rats.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know if I was passionate about it but I was knowledgeable. I
> > > > defended the side of technological advance, of science and progress.
> > > > 
> > > >  In the last 10 years I have changed my position. I started paying 
> > > > attention
> > > > to the flow of published studies coming from Europe, some from 
> > > > prestigious
> > > > labs and published in prestigious scientific journals, that questioned 
> > > > the
> > > > impact and safety of engineered food.
> > > > 
> > > > I refute the claims of the biotechnology companies that their engineered
> > > > crops yield more, that they require less pesticide applications, that 
> > > > they
> > > > have no impact on the environment and of course that they are safe to 
> > > > eat.
> > > > 
> > > > There are a number of scientific studies that have been done for 
> > > > Monsanto by
> > > > universities in the U.S., Canada, and abroad. Most of these studies are
> > > > concerned with the field performance of the engineered crops, and of 
> > > > course
> > > > they find GMOs safe for the environment and therefore safe to eat.
> > > > 
> > > > Individuals should be encouraged to make their decisions on food safety
> > > > based on scientific evidence and personal choice, not on emotion or the
> > > > personal opinions of others.
> > > > 
> > > > We should all take these studies seriously and demand that government
> > > > agencies replicate them rather than rely on studies paid for by the 
> > > > biotech
> > > > companies.
> > > > 
> > > > The Bt corn and soya plants that are now everywhere in our environment 
> > > > are
> > > > registered as insecticides. But are these insecticidal plants regulated 
> > > > and
> > > > have their proteins been tested for safety? Not by the federal 
> > > > departments
> > > > in charge of food safety, not in Canada and not in the U.S.
> > > > 
> > > > There are no long-term feeding studies performed in these countries to
> > > > demonstrate the claims that engineered corn and soya are safe. All we 
> > > > have
> > > > are scientific studies out of Europe and Russia, showing that rats fed
> > > > engineered food die prematurely.
> > > > 
> > > > These studies show that proteins produced by engineered plants are 
> > > > different
> > > > than what they should be. Inserting a gene in a genome using this 
> > > > technology
> > > > can and does result in damaged proteins. The scientific literature is 
> > > > full
> > > > of studies showing that engineered corn and soya contain toxic or 
> > > > allergenic
> > > > proteins.
> > > > 
> > > > Genetic engineering is 40 years old. It is based on the naive 
> > > > understanding
> > > > of the genome based on the One Gene - one protein hypothesis of 70 years
> > > > ago, that each gene codes for a single protein. The Human Genome project
> > > > completed in 2002 showed that this hypothesis is wrong.
> > > > 
> > > > The whole paradigm of the genetic engineering technology is based on a
> > > > misunderstanding. Every scientist now learns that any gene can give more
> > > > than one protein and that inserting a gene anywhere in a plant 
> > > > eventually
> > > > creates rogue proteins. Some of these proteins are obviously allerg

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of sparaig
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:12 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, 
Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

 

  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , 
"Rick Archer" mailto:rick@...> > wrote:
>
> The meditation teacher in the center, I believe, was a long-term TM teacher, 
> but now perhaps an independent teacher of his own set of techniques?
> 
> Mark McCooey? Nope. Not an independent teacher. No set of techniques.
> 
>

OK, my mistake:

http://batgap.com/sand-panel-discussion/

"Mark McCooey is a businessman and has been a teacher of Transcendental 
Meditation for over 30 years. He and his family live in Vancouver, Canada."

I just assumed that a TM teacher would have made some mention of MMY if he was 
still active as a TM teacher.

Hagelin didn’t, right?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[Buck]

>
> Read what is coming out.  You'd be nuts to be buying and consuming food that 
> has GMO ingredients in it.  It's like no wonder.
> -B  

Yep, at least learn to read food labels and figure out what you are buying and 
eating. -B   

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > It's true, you proly cannot trust our Ag and bio-tech research coming out 
> > from USA universities and US research institutes cause it is so paid for by 
> > Monsanto.  Science and technology is quickly shifting to other places 
> > anyway.  The sequester is only accelerating that.
> > -Buck outstanding in his field
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.foodrevolution.org/blog/former-pro-gmo-scientist/
> > > 
> > > Former Pro-GMO Scientist Speaks Out On The Real Dangers of Genetically
> > > Engineered Food Published May 11, 2013 | By Ocean Robbins
> > > 
> > > 
> > > By Thierry Vrain
> > > 
> > > I retired 10 years ago after a long career as a research scientist for
> > > Agriculture Canada. When I was on the payroll, I was the designated
> > > scientist of my institute to address public groups and reassure them that
> > > genetically engineered crops and foods were safe. There is, however, a
> > > growing body of scientific research - done mostly in Europe, Russia, and
> > > other countries - showing that diets containing engineered corn or soya
> > > cause serious health problems in laboratory mice and rats.
> > > 
> > > I don't know if I was passionate about it but I was knowledgeable. I
> > > defended the side of technological advance, of science and progress.
> > > 
> > >  In the last 10 years I have changed my position. I started paying 
> > > attention
> > > to the flow of published studies coming from Europe, some from prestigious
> > > labs and published in prestigious scientific journals, that questioned the
> > > impact and safety of engineered food.
> > > 
> > > I refute the claims of the biotechnology companies that their engineered
> > > crops yield more, that they require less pesticide applications, that they
> > > have no impact on the environment and of course that they are safe to eat.
> > > 
> > > There are a number of scientific studies that have been done for Monsanto 
> > > by
> > > universities in the U.S., Canada, and abroad. Most of these studies are
> > > concerned with the field performance of the engineered crops, and of 
> > > course
> > > they find GMOs safe for the environment and therefore safe to eat.
> > > 
> > > Individuals should be encouraged to make their decisions on food safety
> > > based on scientific evidence and personal choice, not on emotion or the
> > > personal opinions of others.
> > > 
> > > We should all take these studies seriously and demand that government
> > > agencies replicate them rather than rely on studies paid for by the 
> > > biotech
> > > companies.
> > > 
> > > The Bt corn and soya plants that are now everywhere in our environment are
> > > registered as insecticides. But are these insecticidal plants regulated 
> > > and
> > > have their proteins been tested for safety? Not by the federal departments
> > > in charge of food safety, not in Canada and not in the U.S.
> > > 
> > > There are no long-term feeding studies performed in these countries to
> > > demonstrate the claims that engineered corn and soya are safe. All we have
> > > are scientific studies out of Europe and Russia, showing that rats fed
> > > engineered food die prematurely.
> > > 
> > > These studies show that proteins produced by engineered plants are 
> > > different
> > > than what they should be. Inserting a gene in a genome using this 
> > > technology
> > > can and does result in damaged proteins. The scientific literature is full
> > > of studies showing that engineered corn and soya contain toxic or 
> > > allergenic
> > > proteins.
> > > 
> > > Genetic engineering is 40 years old. It is based on the naive 
> > > understanding
> > > of the genome based on the One Gene - one protein hypothesis of 70 years
> > > ago, that each gene codes for a single protein. The Human Genome project
> > > completed in 2002 showed that this hypothesis is wrong.
> > > 
> > > The whole paradigm of the genetic engineering technology is based on a
> > > misunderstanding. Every scientist now learns that any gene can give more
> > > than one protein and that inserting a gene anywhere in a plant eventually
> > > creates rogue proteins. Some of these proteins are obviously allergenic or
> > > toxic.
> > > 
> > > I have drafted a reply to Paul Horgen's letter to the Comox Valley
> > > Environmental Council. It is my wish that it goes viral as to educate as
> > > many people as possible rapidly. Any and all social media is fine by me.
> > > This can also be used as a briefing note for the councilors of AVICC or
> > > anywhere else. Thank you for your help. [Click here for original source 
> > > with
> > > replies from Dr. Paul Horgen]
> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[authfriend]

Have you ever noticed how important Barry, FFL's one-man
Hate Brigade, feels it is to let us all know how little
he's affected by what the folks who are trying to clue
him in to himself are saying?

If he were really not affected, he wouldn't worry about
whether we thought he was. But he obviously cares a great
deal about convincing us that he doesn't care.

Jumping up and down and screaming, "I don't give a shit
what you horrible people say about me! I don't care, I
don't care, I'm not affected. Look, damn it, I'm not
paying you any attention, can't you see? I'm being just
as hateful as you all keep saying I am!" doesn't quite
convey the impression he wants it to.








--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Have you ever noticed that the Hate Brigade tends to
> justify why they obsess on me by coming up with 
> metaphors for how *much* what I say *bothers* them?
> 
> And then they give speeches about "non-attachment."
> Go figure. 
> 
> If I were to come up with a metaphor for how much
> the things Ann or Jimbo or Judy or Ravi say affect
> me...uh...let's see. Using Ann's tortured metaphor
> syntax (she really *did* learn to Write Badly from
> Robin, didn't she?):
> 
> * Think of a gnat flying through a room, making so
> little impact on the room that the only ones who
> even notice its existence are other gnats. 
> 
> That's all I can come up with. Sorry...  :-)
> 
> Really. Does the spoiled little rich girl think 
> that people actually CARE what she thinks of them?
> Or that they have any reaction whatsoever?
> 
> THAT is the whole issue. They are convinced that
> people CARE about the things they say, as if they
> "mattered." They don't. They're gnats. The only
> thing one can do with gnats -- out of compassion,
> you understand -- is to remind them every so often
> of their gnatitudeness.  :-)
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Barry Wright wants attention
> > > 
> > > Why do you lot give him so much if you object to it?
> > 
> > Let's see if I can explain it.
> > 
> > Think of a dead rat in the wall and what it smells like.
> > Imagine sawdust in your underwear.
> > Cogitate on those times when you got a bug in your eye and it burns.
> > Recollect that cucumber you leave about three weeks too long in the fridge.
> > Put your mind back to the time you have a pebble in your shoe on a long 
> > hike.
> > Reminisce on those instances when the party upstairs keeps you awake until 
> > 3 am and you have to get up at 6. 
> > 
> > In all these instances you wish it would just go away and leave you alone. 
> > The longer you wait and do nothing the worse it will get or at least stay 
> > the same (unpleasant). So in the spirit of optimism and hope one takes 
> > action. In most instances one can rectify any one of the above situations. 
> > In Barry's case the smell, the itch, the burn, the slime, the ache and 
> > noise (in that order from the examples above)is a lot harder to make go 
> > away/stop. And anyway, he loves the attention so at least there is that. I 
> > don't begrudge him a little attention, I've got lots to give.
> > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Barry Wright loves attention
> > > > 
> > > > Barry Wright would kill for attention
> > > > 
> > > > Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he accuses 
> > > > others of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, psychologist 
> > > > who follow attachment theory may call him dismissive-avoidant.
> > > > 
> > > > He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at others being 
> > > > TB's.
> > > > 
> > > > Share and Xeno are his fans.
> > > > 
> > > > Pathetic.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On May 23, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
> > > > > > really give much of a shit what other people think
> > > > > > of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
> > > > > > that while he claims he doesn't give much of
> > > > > > a shit what other people think of what he is,
> > > > > > he still obviously wants to make absolutely
> > > > > > sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well that worked. :-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> > > > > > > always the same -- "**I** am > > being enlightened or even 
> > > > > > > halfway intelligent here> and 
> > > > > > > you're not!!!" 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Because you

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[sparaig]

Perhaps me meant Witnessing Dreaming?

Though, I've no reason to think that an arbitrary dream, enlightened or no, is 
going to be more important to the waking state if one is enlightened or not.

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > I was thinking that if a person had transcendental dreams, 
> > then the solutions to problems in the waking consciousness 
> > would be rehearsed and reenacted during the dream state in 
> > a blissful way. He or she would then actually perform a 
> > creative solution during the waking state to fix the 
> > problem, whether it be in relationships or work issues.
> 
> Sometimes John's cluelessness amazes me, even after 
> all this time. There can never be any such thing as
> a remembered "transcendental dream," because if it
> had any attributes you can remember, it wasn't 
> transcendental. 
> 
> If you disagree, describe a period of "transcendence" 
> that you experienced in TM for me. In detail. I'll 
> wait...  :-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> The meditation teacher in the center, I believe, was a long-term TM teacher, 
> but now perhaps an independent teacher of his own set of techniques?
> 
> Mark McCooey? Nope. Not an independent teacher. No set of techniques.
> 
>

OK, my mistake:

http://batgap.com/sand-panel-discussion/

"Mark McCooey is a businessman and has been a teacher of Transcendental 
Meditation for over 30 years. He and his family live in Vancouver, Canada."

I just assumed that a TM teacher would have made some mention of MMY if he was 
still active as a TM teacher.


L

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[Buck]

Read what is coming out.  You'd be nuts to be buying and consuming food that 
has GMO ingredients in it.  It's like no wonder.
-B  
  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> It's true, you proly cannot trust our Ag and bio-tech research coming out 
> from USA universities and US research institutes cause it is so paid for by 
> Monsanto.  Science and technology is quickly shifting to other places anyway. 
>  The sequester is only accelerating that.
> -Buck outstanding in his field
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.foodrevolution.org/blog/former-pro-gmo-scientist/
> > 
> > Former Pro-GMO Scientist Speaks Out On The Real Dangers of Genetically
> > Engineered Food Published May 11, 2013 | By Ocean Robbins
> > 
> > 
> > By Thierry Vrain
> > 
> > I retired 10 years ago after a long career as a research scientist for
> > Agriculture Canada. When I was on the payroll, I was the designated
> > scientist of my institute to address public groups and reassure them that
> > genetically engineered crops and foods were safe. There is, however, a
> > growing body of scientific research - done mostly in Europe, Russia, and
> > other countries - showing that diets containing engineered corn or soya
> > cause serious health problems in laboratory mice and rats.
> > 
> > I don't know if I was passionate about it but I was knowledgeable. I
> > defended the side of technological advance, of science and progress.
> > 
> >  In the last 10 years I have changed my position. I started paying attention
> > to the flow of published studies coming from Europe, some from prestigious
> > labs and published in prestigious scientific journals, that questioned the
> > impact and safety of engineered food.
> > 
> > I refute the claims of the biotechnology companies that their engineered
> > crops yield more, that they require less pesticide applications, that they
> > have no impact on the environment and of course that they are safe to eat.
> > 
> > There are a number of scientific studies that have been done for Monsanto by
> > universities in the U.S., Canada, and abroad. Most of these studies are
> > concerned with the field performance of the engineered crops, and of course
> > they find GMOs safe for the environment and therefore safe to eat.
> > 
> > Individuals should be encouraged to make their decisions on food safety
> > based on scientific evidence and personal choice, not on emotion or the
> > personal opinions of others.
> > 
> > We should all take these studies seriously and demand that government
> > agencies replicate them rather than rely on studies paid for by the biotech
> > companies.
> > 
> > The Bt corn and soya plants that are now everywhere in our environment are
> > registered as insecticides. But are these insecticidal plants regulated and
> > have their proteins been tested for safety? Not by the federal departments
> > in charge of food safety, not in Canada and not in the U.S.
> > 
> > There are no long-term feeding studies performed in these countries to
> > demonstrate the claims that engineered corn and soya are safe. All we have
> > are scientific studies out of Europe and Russia, showing that rats fed
> > engineered food die prematurely.
> > 
> > These studies show that proteins produced by engineered plants are different
> > than what they should be. Inserting a gene in a genome using this technology
> > can and does result in damaged proteins. The scientific literature is full
> > of studies showing that engineered corn and soya contain toxic or allergenic
> > proteins.
> > 
> > Genetic engineering is 40 years old. It is based on the naive understanding
> > of the genome based on the One Gene - one protein hypothesis of 70 years
> > ago, that each gene codes for a single protein. The Human Genome project
> > completed in 2002 showed that this hypothesis is wrong.
> > 
> > The whole paradigm of the genetic engineering technology is based on a
> > misunderstanding. Every scientist now learns that any gene can give more
> > than one protein and that inserting a gene anywhere in a plant eventually
> > creates rogue proteins. Some of these proteins are obviously allergenic or
> > toxic.
> > 
> > I have drafted a reply to Paul Horgen's letter to the Comox Valley
> > Environmental Council. It is my wish that it goes viral as to educate as
> > many people as possible rapidly. Any and all social media is fine by me.
> > This can also be used as a briefing note for the councilors of AVICC or
> > anywhere else. Thank you for your help. [Click here for original source with
> > replies from Dr. Paul Horgen]
> > 
> > I am turning you towards a recent compilation (June 2012) of over 500
> > government reports and scientific articles published in peer reviewed
> > Journals, some of them with the highest recognition in the world. Like The
> > Lancet in the medical field, or Advances in Food and Nutrition Research, or
> > Biotechnology, or Scandinavian Jo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[Buck]

It's true, you proly cannot trust our Ag and bio-tech research coming out from 
USA universities and US research institutes cause it is so paid for by 
Monsanto.  Science and technology is quickly shifting to other places anyway.  
The sequester is only accelerating that.
-Buck outstanding in his field

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> http://www.foodrevolution.org/blog/former-pro-gmo-scientist/
> 
> Former Pro-GMO Scientist Speaks Out On The Real Dangers of Genetically
> Engineered Food Published May 11, 2013 | By Ocean Robbins
> 
> 
> By Thierry Vrain
> 
> I retired 10 years ago after a long career as a research scientist for
> Agriculture Canada. When I was on the payroll, I was the designated
> scientist of my institute to address public groups and reassure them that
> genetically engineered crops and foods were safe. There is, however, a
> growing body of scientific research - done mostly in Europe, Russia, and
> other countries - showing that diets containing engineered corn or soya
> cause serious health problems in laboratory mice and rats.
> 
> I don't know if I was passionate about it but I was knowledgeable. I
> defended the side of technological advance, of science and progress.
> 
>  In the last 10 years I have changed my position. I started paying attention
> to the flow of published studies coming from Europe, some from prestigious
> labs and published in prestigious scientific journals, that questioned the
> impact and safety of engineered food.
> 
> I refute the claims of the biotechnology companies that their engineered
> crops yield more, that they require less pesticide applications, that they
> have no impact on the environment and of course that they are safe to eat.
> 
> There are a number of scientific studies that have been done for Monsanto by
> universities in the U.S., Canada, and abroad. Most of these studies are
> concerned with the field performance of the engineered crops, and of course
> they find GMOs safe for the environment and therefore safe to eat.
> 
> Individuals should be encouraged to make their decisions on food safety
> based on scientific evidence and personal choice, not on emotion or the
> personal opinions of others.
> 
> We should all take these studies seriously and demand that government
> agencies replicate them rather than rely on studies paid for by the biotech
> companies.
> 
> The Bt corn and soya plants that are now everywhere in our environment are
> registered as insecticides. But are these insecticidal plants regulated and
> have their proteins been tested for safety? Not by the federal departments
> in charge of food safety, not in Canada and not in the U.S.
> 
> There are no long-term feeding studies performed in these countries to
> demonstrate the claims that engineered corn and soya are safe. All we have
> are scientific studies out of Europe and Russia, showing that rats fed
> engineered food die prematurely.
> 
> These studies show that proteins produced by engineered plants are different
> than what they should be. Inserting a gene in a genome using this technology
> can and does result in damaged proteins. The scientific literature is full
> of studies showing that engineered corn and soya contain toxic or allergenic
> proteins.
> 
> Genetic engineering is 40 years old. It is based on the naive understanding
> of the genome based on the One Gene - one protein hypothesis of 70 years
> ago, that each gene codes for a single protein. The Human Genome project
> completed in 2002 showed that this hypothesis is wrong.
> 
> The whole paradigm of the genetic engineering technology is based on a
> misunderstanding. Every scientist now learns that any gene can give more
> than one protein and that inserting a gene anywhere in a plant eventually
> creates rogue proteins. Some of these proteins are obviously allergenic or
> toxic.
> 
> I have drafted a reply to Paul Horgen's letter to the Comox Valley
> Environmental Council. It is my wish that it goes viral as to educate as
> many people as possible rapidly. Any and all social media is fine by me.
> This can also be used as a briefing note for the councilors of AVICC or
> anywhere else. Thank you for your help. [Click here for original source with
> replies from Dr. Paul Horgen]
> 
> I am turning you towards a recent compilation (June 2012) of over 500
> government reports and scientific articles published in peer reviewed
> Journals, some of them with the highest recognition in the world. Like The
> Lancet in the medical field, or Advances in Food and Nutrition Research, or
> Biotechnology, or Scandinavian Journal of Immunology, European Journal of
> Histochemistry, Journal of Proteome Research, etc â?¦ This compilation was
> made by a genetic engineer in London, and an investigative journalist who
> summarized the gist of the publications for the lay public.
> 
> GMO Myths and Truths - an evidence based examination of the claims made for
> the safety and efficacy of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Food Replicator

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> 
> The funny part is whenever I argue biochemical individuality those who 
> don't like the idea assume I'm a big meat eater.  I'm not.  I actually 
> more or less follow the advice the naturopath gave me.  And by metabolic 
> testing I am slightly a carb type.  If I do a low carb diet for any more 
> than a few days I get morose and can't work.  This field of biochemical 
> individuality has been an interest for me since the 1970s.
>

I only tried going very low carb a couple times, and I could not get past the 
brain-splitting headaches that would quickly go away completely after eating a 
single apple or carrot. One thing I've noticed in my own life and in the 
written experiences of others in the "paleosphere" is that some people handle 
fruit (i.e., sugars) better than starches, and vice versa. 

Starch digests into pure glucose, and that wreaks havoc on my blood sugar. If I 
eat the big bowl of rice they sometimes serve with a sashimi platter, I'm 
likely to fall asleep afterward. But, I just ate three very sweet tangelos, and 
I'm fine. The sugars found in non-starchy fruits and veggies tend to be a mix 
of glucose and fructose, which would have less effect on blood sugar than a 
huge slug of pure glucose. At one point, I was confused because I'd seen two 
foods I handle just fine described as starchy (carrots and winter squash), but 
the nutrition databases actually describe them both as being very low in starch.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Ravi Chivukula]

Yeah dear Dr RC, Psy. D, UCLA - the compassionate, empathetic therapist. I love 
the man, he has a hard job to do. The pain, suffering, sacrifice the man had to 
endure.

But don't forget the other two RC's - fucking fundamentalists, cultists both. 
I'm telling you dear, they are out to get you - beware !!!


On May 23, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Share Long  wrote:

> thanks for being patient with me, Dr. RC
> 
> From: Ravi Chivukula 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion
> 
>  
> Salyavin,
> 
> You missed my point, I was addressing Barry's unhealthy attention seeking 
> behavior not denying his or anyone's need for attention.
> 
> Every one needs attention. I myself learned to find emotionally healthy ways 
> to express my need for attention which requires a healthy display of 
> vulnerability and I also learned to express empathy - as in acknowledge 
> others need for attention and their vulnerability.
> 
> I learned all this, in a very hard way though, by my 30th year, and here's 
> Barry a 65 plus old adult emotionally stunted, no healthy of expressing 
> attention, no healthy ways of empathizing with others.
> 
> Vulnerability equates to weakness, empathy equates to weakness. Share's 
> another - she is afraid she will be controlled by fundamentalists if she 
> displays any vulnerability.
> 
> 
> On May 23, 2013, at 9:25 AM, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Barry Wright wants attention
>> 
>> Why do you lot give him so much if you object to it?
>> 
>> > 
>> > Barry Wright loves attention
>> > 
>> > Barry Wright would kill for attention
>> > 
>> > Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he accuses 
>> > others of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, psychologist who 
>> > follow attachment theory may call him dismissive-avoidant.
>> > 
>> > He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at others being TB's.
>> > 
>> > Share and Xeno are his fans.
>> > 
>> > Pathetic.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On May 23, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Ann"  wrote:
>> > 
>> > > 
>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
>> > > > really give much of a shit what other people think
>> > > > of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
>> > > > 
>> > > > The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
>> > > > that while he claims he doesn't give much of
>> > > > a shit what other people think of what he is,
>> > > > he still obviously wants to make absolutely
>> > > > sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Well that worked. :-)
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
>> > > > > always the same -- "**I** am > > being enlightened or even halfway 
>> > > > > intelligent here> and 
>> > > > > you're not!!!" 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
>> > > > > week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and 
>> > > > > reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I 
>> > > > > figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your 
>> > > > > buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm 
>> > > > > not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
>> > > > > In fact, do so more often, and at the beginning of a 
>> > > > > week, so we don't have to listen to them all week. :-)
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > But I'll stand on the posts I make themselves. If any-
>> > > > > one actually *believes* that I was affected by anything
>> > > > > you said in your button-pushed rants this week, that is
>> > > > > their prerogative, and their folly. I just saw an oppor-
>> > > > > tunity to get you out of our hair, and took it. 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > And I might do it again next week, because frankly you're
>> > > > > too stupid to realize what's being done to you and learn
>> > > > > from it. Or I might just ignore your silly ass entirely, 
>> > > > > which will have exactly the same effect. :-)
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > It's YOU that yearns for attention, for pats on the back, 
>> > > > > and for "support" from your fellow minions, not me. THAT
>> > > > > is what put you on the bench. 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > While you're on the No Self Control Bench for the next
>> > > > > few days, say hello to all of your other multiple FFL
>> > > > > personalities for me. I, for one, can't wait to meet
>> > > > > the next one, when you discover that you've exhausted
>> > > > > the doctordumbass one. :-)
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Do you have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Ravi Chivukula]

Barry, the stoic, invulnerable patriarch. The stoicism, the invulnerability - 
hallmark of the spiritual warrior, of Castaneda, fighting evil, petty tyrants.

Yet we know underneath the stoicism, the invulnerablility is the stunted child, 
the dismissive-avoidant attachment style - lashing out at others in sadistic 
rage.

Dr. RC


On May 23, 2013, at 11:21 AM, turquoiseb  wrote:

> Have you ever noticed that the Hate Brigade tends to
> justify why they obsess on me by coming up with 
> metaphors for how *much* what I say *bothers* them?
> 
> And then they give speeches about "non-attachment."
> Go figure. 
> 
> If I were to come up with a metaphor for how much
> the things Ann or Jimbo or Judy or Ravi say affect
> me...uh...let's see. Using Ann's tortured metaphor
> syntax (she really *did* learn to Write Badly from
> Robin, didn't she?):
> 
> * Think of a gnat flying through a room, making so
> little impact on the room that the only ones who
> even notice its existence are other gnats. 
> 
> That's all I can come up with. Sorry... :-)
> 
> Really. Does the spoiled little rich girl think 
> that people actually CARE what she thinks of them?
> Or that they have any reaction whatsoever?
> 
> THAT is the whole issue. They are convinced that
> people CARE about the things they say, as if they
> "mattered." They don't. They're gnats. The only
> thing one can do with gnats -- out of compassion,
> you understand -- is to remind them every so often
> of their gnatitudeness. :-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Barry Wright wants attention
> > > 
> > > Why do you lot give him so much if you object to it?
> > 
> > Let's see if I can explain it.
> > 
> > Think of a dead rat in the wall and what it smells like.
> > Imagine sawdust in your underwear.
> > Cogitate on those times when you got a bug in your eye and it burns.
> > Recollect that cucumber you leave about three weeks too long in the fridge.
> > Put your mind back to the time you have a pebble in your shoe on a long 
> > hike.
> > Reminisce on those instances when the party upstairs keeps you awake until 
> > 3 am and you have to get up at 6. 
> > 
> > In all these instances you wish it would just go away and leave you alone. 
> > The longer you wait and do nothing the worse it will get or at least stay 
> > the same (unpleasant). So in the spirit of optimism and hope one takes 
> > action. In most instances one can rectify any one of the above situations. 
> > In Barry's case the smell, the itch, the burn, the slime, the ache and 
> > noise (in that order from the examples above)is a lot harder to make go 
> > away/stop. And anyway, he loves the attention so at least there is that. I 
> > don't begrudge him a little attention, I've got lots to give.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Barry Wright loves attention
> > > > 
> > > > Barry Wright would kill for attention
> > > > 
> > > > Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he accuses 
> > > > others of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, psychologist 
> > > > who follow attachment theory may call him dismissive-avoidant.
> > > > 
> > > > He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at others being 
> > > > TB's.
> > > > 
> > > > Share and Xeno are his fans.
> > > > 
> > > > Pathetic.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On May 23, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
> > > > > > really give much of a shit what other people think
> > > > > > of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
> > > > > > that while he claims he doesn't give much of
> > > > > > a shit what other people think of what he is,
> > > > > > he still obviously wants to make absolutely
> > > > > > sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well that worked. :-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> > > > > > > always the same -- "**I** am > > being enlightened or even 
> > > > > > > halfway intelligent here> and 
> > > > > > > you're not!!!" 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
> > > > > > > week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and 
> > > > > > > reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I 
> > > > > > > figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your 
> > > > > > > buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm 
> > > > > > > not." That's my counter

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[turquoiseb]

Have you ever noticed that the Hate Brigade tends to
justify why they obsess on me by coming up with 
metaphors for how *much* what I say *bothers* them?

And then they give speeches about "non-attachment."
Go figure. 

If I were to come up with a metaphor for how much
the things Ann or Jimbo or Judy or Ravi say affect
me...uh...let's see. Using Ann's tortured metaphor
syntax (she really *did* learn to Write Badly from
Robin, didn't she?):

* Think of a gnat flying through a room, making so
little impact on the room that the only ones who
even notice its existence are other gnats. 

That's all I can come up with. Sorry...  :-)

Really. Does the spoiled little rich girl think 
that people actually CARE what she thinks of them?
Or that they have any reaction whatsoever?

THAT is the whole issue. They are convinced that
people CARE about the things they say, as if they
"mattered." They don't. They're gnats. The only
thing one can do with gnats -- out of compassion,
you understand -- is to remind them every so often
of their gnatitudeness.  :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Barry Wright wants attention
> > 
> > Why do you lot give him so much if you object to it?
> 
> Let's see if I can explain it.
> 
> Think of a dead rat in the wall and what it smells like.
> Imagine sawdust in your underwear.
> Cogitate on those times when you got a bug in your eye and it burns.
> Recollect that cucumber you leave about three weeks too long in the fridge.
> Put your mind back to the time you have a pebble in your shoe on a long hike.
> Reminisce on those instances when the party upstairs keeps you awake until 3 
> am and you have to get up at 6. 
> 
> In all these instances you wish it would just go away and leave you alone. 
> The longer you wait and do nothing the worse it will get or at least stay the 
> same (unpleasant). So in the spirit of optimism and hope one takes action. In 
> most instances one can rectify any one of the above situations. In Barry's 
> case the smell, the itch, the burn, the slime, the ache and noise (in that 
> order from the examples above)is a lot harder to make go away/stop. And 
> anyway, he loves the attention so at least there is that. I don't begrudge 
> him a little attention, I've got lots to give.
> >  
> > > 
> > > Barry Wright loves attention
> > > 
> > > Barry Wright would kill for attention
> > > 
> > > Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he accuses 
> > > others of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, psychologist who 
> > > follow attachment theory may call him dismissive-avoidant.
> > > 
> > > He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at others being TB's.
> > > 
> > > Share and Xeno are his fans.
> > > 
> > > Pathetic.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On May 23, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
> > > > > really give much of a shit what other people think
> > > > > of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
> > > > > 
> > > > > The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
> > > > > that while he claims he doesn't give much of
> > > > > a shit what other people think of what he is,
> > > > > he still obviously wants to make absolutely
> > > > > sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well that worked. :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> > > > > > always the same -- "**I** am > > being enlightened or even halfway 
> > > > > > intelligent here> and 
> > > > > > you're not!!!" 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
> > > > > > week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and 
> > > > > > reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I 
> > > > > > figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your 
> > > > > > buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm 
> > > > > > not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
> > > > > > In fact, do so more often, and at the beginning of a 
> > > > > > week, so we don't have to listen to them all week. :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But I'll stand on the posts I make themselves. If any-
> > > > > > one actually *believes* that I was affected by anything
> > > > > > you said in your button-pushed rants this week, that is
> > > > > > their prerogative, and their folly. I just saw an oppor-
> > > > > > tunity to get you out of our hair, and took it. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > And I might do it again 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Richard J. Williams]

Ravi Chivukula:
> Barry Wright wants attention 
> 
> Barry Wright loves attention
> 
> Barry Wright would kill for attention
> 
> Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, 
> attention slut he accuses others of. I call 
> him emotionally stunted - a therapist, 
> psychologist who follow attachment theory may 
> call him dismissive-avoidant.
> 
> He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and 
> scream at others being TB's.
> 
> Share and Xeno are his fans.
> 
> Pathetic.
> 
Some people, especially expats, just feel better 
when they have someone to talk to, and if they 
can speak your language the more the better, Ravi.

You have to understand that it can be a lonely 
world out there if you're a TB - there's probably 
only a few on each city block that would agree 
with your own TB-ness. Barry can probably count 
his spiritual friends on one hand. Go figure.  

> > > "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
> > > really give much of a shit what other people think
> > > of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
> > > 
> > > The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
> > > that while he claims he doesn't give much of
> > > a shit what other people think of what he is,
> > > he still obviously wants to make absolutely
> > > sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Richard J. Williams]

authfriend:
> "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
> really give much of a shit what other people think
> of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
> 
> The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
> that while he claims he doesn't give much of
> a shit what other people think of what he is,
> he still obviously wants to make absolutely
> sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.
> 
"Energy is food. Most people on earth feed on 
each other's energy, all of the time, seven 
days a week..." - Zen Master Rama

http://www.ramaquotes.com/html/psychic_self_defense.html 

turquoiseb:
> > Well that worked.  :-)
> > 
> > Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> > always the same -- "**I** am  > being enlightened or even halfway intelligent here> and 
> > you're not!!!" 
> > 
> > Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
> > week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and 
> > reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I 
> > figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your 
> > buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm 
> > not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
> > 
> > You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
> > In fact, do so more often, and at the beginning of a 
> > week, so we don't have to listen to them all week. :-)
> > 
> > But I'll stand on the posts I make themselves. If any-
> > one actually *believes* that I was affected by anything
> > you said in your button-pushed rants this week, that is
> > their prerogative, and their folly. I just saw an oppor-
> > tunity to get you out of our hair, and took it. 
> > 
> > And I might do it again next week, because frankly you're
> > too stupid to realize what's being done to you and learn
> > from it. Or I might just ignore your silly ass entirely, 
> > which will have exactly the same effect. :-)
> > 
> > It's YOU that yearns for attention, for pats on the back, 
> > and for "support" from your fellow minions, not me. THAT
> > is what put you on the bench. 
> > 
> > While you're on the No Self Control Bench for the next
> > few days, say hello to all of your other multiple FFL
> > personalities for me. I, for one, can't wait to meet
> > the next one, when you discover that you've exhausted
> > the doctordumbass one.  :-)
> > 

[FairfieldLife] Butt Calls - Go Figure

[Richard J. Williams]

"It was a butt-dialing blunder that led police to 
the man they say orchestrated the fatal shooting."

'Suspect Accidently Calls 911, Recording His Murder Plan'
CBS Miami:
http://tinyurl.com/p9z8u6x

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[Richard J. Williams]

John jr_esq:
> > I was thinking that if a person had transcendental dreams, 
> > then the solutions to problems in the waking consciousness 
> > would be rehearsed and reenacted during the dream state in 
> > a blissful way. He or she would then actually perform a 
> > creative solution during the waking state to fix the 
> > problem, whether it be in relationships or work issues.
> >
turquoise:
> Sometimes John's cluelessness amazes me, even after 
> all this time. There can never be any such thing as
> a remembered "transcendental dream," because if it
> had any attributes you can remember, it wasn't 
> transcendental. 
>
Barry seems not to be aware that Dream Yoga has been
practiced by Tibetan Buddhists for hundreds of years.
So, I would assume that Barry has not had any Tibetan 
Buddhist training.

This is what happens when you're just a dilettante, not
a student of Yoga with a teacher. 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dilettante

In a recent exchange  Barry didn't seem to be even 
aware of Trungpa's Shamballa project and Alan Wallace's
'directed attention'. Go figure.

The Attention Revolution:
http://tinyurl.com/yc2koab 

In Tibetan Dream Yoga, maintaining full consciousness 
while in the dream state is part of Dzogchen training.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzogchen

> If you disagree, describe a period of "transcendence" 
> that you experienced in TM for me. In detail. I'll 
> wait...  :-)
>
This training is described by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche 
as 'Rigpa Awareness'. Lucid dreaming is secondary to 
the experience of 'Diamond Light'. Rigpa Awareness is 
very similar to 'witnessing sleep' in 'TM', which 
helps the individual understand the unreality of waking 
consciousness as phenomena. From what I've read the 
EEG patterns are the same in Rigpa Awareness as in TM. 

Read more:

'Tibetan Yoga Of Dream And Sleep'
by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche
Snow Lion, 1998 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> >
> > Barry Wright wants attention
> 
> Why do you lot give him so much if you object to it?

Let's see if I can explain it.

Think of a dead rat in the wall and what it smells like.
Imagine sawdust in your underwear.
Cogitate on those times when you got a bug in your eye and it burns.
Recollect that cucumber you leave about three weeks too long in the fridge.
Put your mind back to the time you have a pebble in your shoe on a long hike.
Reminisce on those instances when the party upstairs keeps you awake until 3 am 
and you have to get up at 6. 

In all these instances you wish it would just go away and leave you alone. The 
longer you wait and do nothing the worse it will get or at least stay the same 
(unpleasant). So in the spirit of optimism and hope one takes action. In most 
instances one can rectify any one of the above situations. In Barry's case the 
smell, the itch, the burn, the slime, the ache and noise (in that order from 
the examples above)is a lot harder to make go away/stop. And anyway, he loves 
the attention so at least there is that. I don't begrudge him a little 
attention, I've got lots to give.
>  
> > 
> > Barry Wright loves attention
> > 
> > Barry Wright would kill for attention
> > 
> > Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he accuses 
> > others of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, psychologist who 
> > follow attachment theory may call him dismissive-avoidant.
> > 
> > He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at others being TB's.
> > 
> > Share and Xeno are his fans.
> > 
> > Pathetic.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On May 23, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Ann"  wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
> > > > really give much of a shit what other people think
> > > > of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
> > > > 
> > > > The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
> > > > that while he claims he doesn't give much of
> > > > a shit what other people think of what he is,
> > > > he still obviously wants to make absolutely
> > > > sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well that worked. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> > > > > always the same -- "**I** am > > being enlightened or even halfway 
> > > > > intelligent here> and 
> > > > > you're not!!!" 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
> > > > > week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and 
> > > > > reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I 
> > > > > figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your 
> > > > > buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm 
> > > > > not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
> > > > > In fact, do so more often, and at the beginning of a 
> > > > > week, so we don't have to listen to them all week. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > But I'll stand on the posts I make themselves. If any-
> > > > > one actually *believes* that I was affected by anything
> > > > > you said in your button-pushed rants this week, that is
> > > > > their prerogative, and their folly. I just saw an oppor-
> > > > > tunity to get you out of our hair, and took it. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > And I might do it again next week, because frankly you're
> > > > > too stupid to realize what's being done to you and learn
> > > > > from it. Or I might just ignore your silly ass entirely, 
> > > > > which will have exactly the same effect. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's YOU that yearns for attention, for pats on the back, 
> > > > > and for "support" from your fellow minions, not me. THAT
> > > > > is what put you on the bench. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > While you're on the No Self Control Bench for the next
> > > > > few days, say hello to all of your other multiple FFL
> > > > > personalities for me. I, for one, can't wait to meet
> > > > > the next one, when you discover that you've exhausted
> > > > > the doctordumbass one. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you have the hots for me, or something, Barry Wright? All this 
> > > > > > about wanting me to be a woman. Dude, last night may not have gone 
> > > > > > well for you, but I think now lusting after my ass is a bit much, 
> > > > > > don't you?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You have no substantial reaction to my posts this week, except the 
> > > > > > feeling like ice water running down your back, and the tightening 
> > > > > > of your sphincter. You have made po

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Share Long]

thanks for being patient with me, Dr. RC





 From: Ravi Chivukula 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion
 


  
Salyavin,

You missed my point, I was addressing Barry's unhealthy attention seeking 
behavior not denying his or anyone's need for attention.

Every one needs attention. I myself learned to find emotionally healthy ways to 
express my need for attention which requires a healthy display of vulnerability 
and I also learned to express empathy - as in acknowledge others need for 
attention and their vulnerability.

I learned all this, in a very hard way though, by my 30th year, and here's 
Barry a 65 plus old adult emotionally stunted, no healthy of expressing 
attention, no healthy ways of empathizing with others.

Vulnerability equates to weakness, empathy equates to weakness. Share's another 
- she is afraid she will be controlled by fundamentalists if she displays any 
vulnerability.



On May 23, 2013, at 9:25 AM, "salyavin808"  wrote:


  
>
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
>wrote:
>>
>> Barry Wright wants attention
>
>Why do you lot give him so much if you object to it?
>
>> 
>> Barry Wright loves attention
>> 
>> Barry Wright would kill for attention
>> 
>> Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he accuses 
>> others of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, psychologist who 
>> follow attachment theory may call him dismissive-avoidant.
>> 
>> He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at others being TB's.
>> 
>> Share and Xeno are his fans.
>> 
>> Pathetic.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 23, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Ann"  wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
>> > > really give much of a shit what other people think
>> > > of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
>> > > 
>> > > The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
>> > > that while he claims he doesn't give much of
>> > > a shit what other people think of what he is,
>> > > he still obviously wants to make absolutely
>> > > sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Well that worked. :-)
>> > > > 
>> > > > Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
>> > > > always the same -- "**I** am > > being enlightened or even halfway 
>> > > > intelligent here> and 
>> > > > you're not!!!" 
>> > > > 
>> > > > Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
>> > > > week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and 
>> > > > reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I 
>> > > > figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your 
>> > > > buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm 
>> > > > not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
>> > > > 
>> > > > You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
>> > > > In fact, do so more often, and at the beginning of a 
>> > > > week, so we don't have to listen to them all week. :-)
>> > > > 
>> > > > But I'll stand on the posts I make themselves. If any-
>> > > > one actually *believes* that I was affected by anything
>> > > > you said in your button-pushed rants this week, that is
>> > > > their prerogative, and their folly. I just saw an oppor-
>> > > > tunity to get you out of our hair, and took it. 
>> > > > 
>> > > > And I might do it again next week, because frankly you're
>> > > > too stupid to realize what's being done to you and learn
>> > > > from it. Or I might just ignore your silly ass entirely, 
>> > > > which will have exactly the same effect. :-)
>> > > > 
>> > > > It's YOU that yearns for attention, for pats on the back, 
>> > > > and for "support" from your fellow minions, not me. THAT
>> > > > is what put you on the bench. 
>> > > > 
>> > > > While you're on the No Self Control Bench for the next
>> > > > few days, say hello to all of your other multiple FFL
>> > > > personalities for me. I, for one, can't wait to meet
>> > > > the next one, when you discover that you've exhausted
>> > > > the doctordumbass one. :-)
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Do you have the hots for me, or something, Barry Wright? All this 
>> > > > > about wanting me to be a woman. Dude, last night may not have gone 
>> > > > > well for you, but I think now lusting after my ass is a bit much, 
>> > > > > don't you?
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > You have no substantial reaction to my posts this week, except the 
>> > > > > feeling like ice water running down your back, and the tightening of 
>> > > > > your sphincter. You have made poor choices in your life, and you are 
>> > > > > all bent out of shape when I point them out to you. Your life here 
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Ravi Chivukula]

Salyavin,

You missed my point, I was addressing Barry's unhealthy attention seeking 
behavior not denying his or anyone's need for attention.

Every one needs attention. I myself learned to find emotionally healthy ways to 
express my need for attention which requires a healthy display of vulnerability 
and I also learned to express empathy - as in acknowledge others need for 
attention and their vulnerability.

I learned all this, in a very hard way though, by my 30th year, and here's 
Barry a 65 plus old adult emotionally stunted, no healthy of expressing 
attention, no healthy ways of empathizing with others.

Vulnerability equates to weakness, empathy equates to weakness. Share's another 
- she is afraid she will be controlled by fundamentalists if she displays any 
vulnerability.


On May 23, 2013, at 9:25 AM, "salyavin808"  wrote:

> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> wrote:
> >
> > Barry Wright wants attention
> 
> Why do you lot give him so much if you object to it?
> 
> > 
> > Barry Wright loves attention
> > 
> > Barry Wright would kill for attention
> > 
> > Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he accuses 
> > others of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, psychologist who 
> > follow attachment theory may call him dismissive-avoidant.
> > 
> > He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at others being TB's.
> > 
> > Share and Xeno are his fans.
> > 
> > Pathetic.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On May 23, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Ann"  wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
> > > > really give much of a shit what other people think
> > > > of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
> > > > 
> > > > The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
> > > > that while he claims he doesn't give much of
> > > > a shit what other people think of what he is,
> > > > he still obviously wants to make absolutely
> > > > sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well that worked. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> > > > > always the same -- "**I** am > > being enlightened or even halfway 
> > > > > intelligent here> and 
> > > > > you're not!!!" 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
> > > > > week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and 
> > > > > reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I 
> > > > > figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your 
> > > > > buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm 
> > > > > not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
> > > > > In fact, do so more often, and at the beginning of a 
> > > > > week, so we don't have to listen to them all week. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > But I'll stand on the posts I make themselves. If any-
> > > > > one actually *believes* that I was affected by anything
> > > > > you said in your button-pushed rants this week, that is
> > > > > their prerogative, and their folly. I just saw an oppor-
> > > > > tunity to get you out of our hair, and took it. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > And I might do it again next week, because frankly you're
> > > > > too stupid to realize what's being done to you and learn
> > > > > from it. Or I might just ignore your silly ass entirely, 
> > > > > which will have exactly the same effect. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's YOU that yearns for attention, for pats on the back, 
> > > > > and for "support" from your fellow minions, not me. THAT
> > > > > is what put you on the bench. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > While you're on the No Self Control Bench for the next
> > > > > few days, say hello to all of your other multiple FFL
> > > > > personalities for me. I, for one, can't wait to meet
> > > > > the next one, when you discover that you've exhausted
> > > > > the doctordumbass one. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you have the hots for me, or something, Barry Wright? All this 
> > > > > > about wanting me to be a woman. Dude, last night may not have gone 
> > > > > > well for you, but I think now lusting after my ass is a bit much, 
> > > > > > don't you?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You have no substantial reaction to my posts this week, except the 
> > > > > > feeling like ice water running down your back, and the tightening 
> > > > > > of your sphincter. You have made poor choices in your life, and you 
> > > > > > are all bent out of shape when I point them out to you. Your life 
> > > > > > here is a never ending rant against your core unhappiness. Please, 
> > > > > > go back to sleep, dreaming deeply, and all will 

[FairfieldLife] Former Pro-GMO Scientist Refutes Genetically Engineered Food

[Rick Archer]

http://www.foodrevolution.org/blog/former-pro-gmo-scientist/

Former Pro-GMO Scientist Speaks Out On The Real Dangers of Genetically
Engineered Food Published May 11, 2013 | By Ocean Robbins


By Thierry Vrain

I retired 10 years ago after a long career as a research scientist for
Agriculture Canada. When I was on the payroll, I was the designated
scientist of my institute to address public groups and reassure them that
genetically engineered crops and foods were safe. There is, however, a
growing body of scientific research - done mostly in Europe, Russia, and
other countries - showing that diets containing engineered corn or soya
cause serious health problems in laboratory mice and rats.

I don't know if I was passionate about it but I was knowledgeable. I
defended the side of technological advance, of science and progress.

 In the last 10 years I have changed my position. I started paying attention
to the flow of published studies coming from Europe, some from prestigious
labs and published in prestigious scientific journals, that questioned the
impact and safety of engineered food.

I refute the claims of the biotechnology companies that their engineered
crops yield more, that they require less pesticide applications, that they
have no impact on the environment and of course that they are safe to eat.

There are a number of scientific studies that have been done for Monsanto by
universities in the U.S., Canada, and abroad. Most of these studies are
concerned with the field performance of the engineered crops, and of course
they find GMOs safe for the environment and therefore safe to eat.

Individuals should be encouraged to make their decisions on food safety
based on scientific evidence and personal choice, not on emotion or the
personal opinions of others.

We should all take these studies seriously and demand that government
agencies replicate them rather than rely on studies paid for by the biotech
companies.

The Bt corn and soya plants that are now everywhere in our environment are
registered as insecticides. But are these insecticidal plants regulated and
have their proteins been tested for safety? Not by the federal departments
in charge of food safety, not in Canada and not in the U.S.

There are no long-term feeding studies performed in these countries to
demonstrate the claims that engineered corn and soya are safe. All we have
are scientific studies out of Europe and Russia, showing that rats fed
engineered food die prematurely.

These studies show that proteins produced by engineered plants are different
than what they should be. Inserting a gene in a genome using this technology
can and does result in damaged proteins. The scientific literature is full
of studies showing that engineered corn and soya contain toxic or allergenic
proteins.

Genetic engineering is 40 years old. It is based on the naive understanding
of the genome based on the One Gene - one protein hypothesis of 70 years
ago, that each gene codes for a single protein. The Human Genome project
completed in 2002 showed that this hypothesis is wrong.

The whole paradigm of the genetic engineering technology is based on a
misunderstanding. Every scientist now learns that any gene can give more
than one protein and that inserting a gene anywhere in a plant eventually
creates rogue proteins. Some of these proteins are obviously allergenic or
toxic.

I have drafted a reply to Paul Horgen's letter to the Comox Valley
Environmental Council. It is my wish that it goes viral as to educate as
many people as possible rapidly. Any and all social media is fine by me.
This can also be used as a briefing note for the councilors of AVICC or
anywhere else. Thank you for your help. [Click here for original source with
replies from Dr. Paul Horgen]

I am turning you towards a recent compilation (June 2012) of over 500
government reports and scientific articles published in peer reviewed
Journals, some of them with the highest recognition in the world. Like The
Lancet in the medical field, or Advances in Food and Nutrition Research, or
Biotechnology, or Scandinavian Journal of Immunology, European Journal of
Histochemistry, Journal of Proteome Research, etc â?¦ This compilation was
made by a genetic engineer in London, and an investigative journalist who
summarized the gist of the publications for the lay public.

GMO Myths and Truths - an evidence based examination of the claims made for
the safety and efficacy of genetically modified crops. A report of 120
pages, it can be downloaded for free from Earth Open Source. "GMO Myths and
Truths" disputes the claims of the Biotech industry that GM crops yield
better and more nutritious food, that they save on the use of pesticides,
have no environmental impact whatsoever and are perfectly safe to eat.
Genetic pollution is so prevalent in North and South America where GM crops
are grown that the fields of conventional and organic grower are regularly
contaminated with engineered pollen and losing cert

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[Share Long]

Thanks, Xeno, I actually got the quote from my ex in Vancouver who did a 
presentation on SCI 8 in 2010.  I knew he'd remember the phrases and it's fun 
to see via Michael Goodman that Maharishi has said it both ways though I still 
prefer:  when existence becomes conscious, then intelligence becomes 
intelligent.  Ex further explained that this can be thought about in terms of 
Purusha and Prakriti, Shiva and Shakti, infinite silence and infinite dynamism. 
 Can't help but wonder what it would be called in the observerse (-:





 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel 
Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S
 


  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> >
> > Good Lord, Lawson, life is fascinating!  I was just 
> > asking a friend if there is ever a time when existence 
> > is not conscious. This was in the context of the famous 
> > phrase from SCI Lesson 8: when existence becomes 
> > conscious, then intelligence becomes intelligent.
> 
> Careful, Share...you are cruisin' for a bruisin'
> from the Nitpick Police. Someone (no need to say
> who) will come roaring in declaring that the actual
> quote was, "When consciousness becomes conscious,
> intelligence becomes intelligent." 
> 
> Forget losing your Dome Badge. If you persist in
> such transgressions, someone may take away your
> Maharishi Parrot Merit Badge. :-)
>
I always remembered this quotation as 'when pure consciousness becomes 
conscious...' So now on this page there are three variations. Fodder for an 
editor. I like Share's version even if it is a misquote because it eliminates 
the ambiguity of using the word conscious in different shades of meaning 
(logical equivocation). Isn't it fascinating that while we all seem to 
appreciate that we are conscious, all our talk about it always seems to get us 
nowhere in particular. Perhaps we are conscious, and while so, that is it.

Below: thought processes in the brain - scientific view.
Source article on Science Daily

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Food Replicator

[Bhairitu]

On 05/22/2013 05:17 PM, Susan wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 05/22/2013 01:19 PM, Ann wrote:
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
 On 05/22/2013 09:56 AM, John wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 05/22/2013 06:58 AM, raunchydog wrote:
>>> A Star Trek food replicator that can feed astronauts on a mission to 
>>> Mars is in the works. I can't wait for this technology to hit the 
>>> retail market. We won't shop for food. We'll just order powders for our 
>>> replicating printers from Amazon.com and Voilà, duck a l'orange! 
>>> Hmm...What do you think will be the powder? I'm guessing Soylent Green.
>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/nasa-asks-could-3-d-printed-food-fuel-a-mission-to-mars/2013/05/21/76fc3668-c224-11e2-914f-a7aba60512a7_story.html
>>>
>>>
>> Enjoy variety in food now.  It's probably not a sustainable in a world
>> of more than 7 billion.  In the future you'll be eating "science diet
>> for humans."  But I'm sure they'll have "taco flavored", "italian
>> flavored", "beef flavored", etc.  The future's so bright you'll need to
>> wear shades.
>>
> Srila Prabhupada stated that the world can be adequately fed by eating 
> healthy foods, such as grains, beans, milk, and vegetables.
 So Prabhupada was a nutritionist?  Indians might be able to live on that
 diet but not people who have had generations of ancestors living on
 animal protein.  Nutrition is NOT an ideology.  You HAVE to eat what
 your body needs.  Otherwise that might be like putting water in your gas
 tank and hoping your car will run.

>>> I guarantee you that there is not a soul on this planet who would die of 
>>> starvation eating "just" grains, beans, milk and vegetables. After all, 
>>> most of America exists on non foods already. In fact, leaving out animal 
>>> proteins and dairy would greatly enhance the average person's diet as well 
>>> as that coupled with the reduction of processed and fast food most of the 
>>> population scarfs down daily. How do you explain the ability of thousands 
>>> of people choosing a strictly vegetarian diet after eating a lifetime of 
>>> meat and dairy to do so as successfully and healthily as they do? I believe 
>>> the human body capable of great adaptation; just look at how we have been 
>>> able to survive the extinction of the Twinkie - and live.
>> I don't think you can guarantee that  at all.  They wouldn't die of
>> starvation but  they might not be healthy.  They might lack the strength
>> and endurance.   I know people who claim they are doing great on an all
>> veg diet but need 10 hours of sleep a day.  And I bet they would fail
>> standard strength and endurance tests.
>>
>> So I think you are being idealistic.  But I regularly piss off
>> nutritional idealists with information on biochemical individuality.  Of
>> course that's been around for centuries with Asian medicine but also
>> over the last century with western medicine.  It's like people who live
>> nearer the equator where a meat eating diet might make them more acid
>> have genes for a vegetarian diet and can maintain a strong endocrine
>> system especially thyroid and adrenals on that diet.
>>
>> Back in the 1970s I knew a lot  of meditators and TM teachers who tried
>> to survive on a vegetarian diet.  Many suffered from hypoglycemia.  Many
>> gave up the vegetarian diet and didn't look back and went on to live
>> healthy lives.
> That's me.  All veg diet due to TM influence and then really awful 
> hypoglycemia. Anxiety, fatigue, even odd thinking.  I did not feel myself.  
> It took me 2 years to figure out that was what was going on.  And when I went 
> back to protein, chicken, fish, no or low carbs, the difference was 
> incredible in just 4 days.After that experience, I know how important it is 
> to eat what your own body needs, not follow some generic plan.
>

In 1972, a friend who was attending naturopathic college suggested I get 
a physical there.  At the physical examination the doctor asked me if I 
was a vegetarian?  I said no, but that I had been trying it for a couple 
weeks.  He replied that I was already showing signs of anemia and 
recommended having so fish or chicken 2 or 3 times a week.  Also my 
mother had bouts with hypoglycemia and so I was aware of that problem.

The funny part is whenever I argue biochemical individuality those who 
don't like the idea assume I'm a big meat eater.  I'm not.  I actually 
more or less follow the advice the naturopath gave me.  And by metabolic 
testing I am slightly a carb type.  If I do a low carb diet for any more 
than a few days I get morose and can't work.  This field of biochemical 
individuality has been an interest for me since the 1970s.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Afghan Students Protest Women's Rights Decree

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > The decree on Elimination of Violence Against Women, which includes a ban 
> > on child marriage and forced marriage, makes domestic violence a crime and 
> > says rape victims cannot be prosecuted for adultery. It also outlaws 
> > "ba'ad," a traditional practice of exchanging women or girls to settle 
> > disputes or debts.
> >
> 
> It is called civilizing; bringing equal rights to all.  Including the 
> inalienable fundemental human right to transcend in all.  Enlarging equal 
> rights is a large part and duty of Being American.  It is good we are there 
> with the civilized part of the world in force.  It would be better if we 
> could get the David Lynch Foundation in there too teaching the children in 
> the schools how to meditate. 
> -Buck in the Dome

Buck,

This is a noble idea, but could be potentially dangerous for those who are 
practicing TM over there.  If the imams or an Islamist determines that TM is 
contrary to sharia law, someone could easily throw a stick of dynamite among 
those involved in group meditation.

They've done these barbarous acts to Christian churches during their worship 
services in Afghan, Iraq and Pakistan.

IMO, these acts show how the evil forces manifest in the world in the guise of 
religious fervor.

JR



 
>  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Fundamentalism is hard to erase.  But Afghans now realize that they are 
> > > under the watchful eyes of the modern world.  Will they eventually change?
> > > 
> > > http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-students-protest-womens-rights-decree-073905010.html
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> I was thinking that if a person had transcendental dreams, 
> then the solutions to problems in the waking consciousness 
> would be rehearsed and reenacted during the dream state in 
> a blissful way. He or she would then actually perform a 
> creative solution during the waking state to fix the 
> problem, whether it be in relationships or work issues.

Sometimes John's cluelessness amazes me, even after 
all this time. There can never be any such thing as
a remembered "transcendental dream," because if it
had any attributes you can remember, it wasn't 
transcendental. 

If you disagree, describe a period of "transcendence" 
that you experienced in TM for me. In detail. I'll 
wait...  :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Changed Land in Iowa

[Bhairitu]

On 05/22/2013 05:11 PM, Susan wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 05/22/2013 09:32 AM, Buck wrote:
>>> What is going on?  The cash payments along with accelerated depreciation 
>>> schedules in the farm program.  Extra cash to the guys that 'farm' the farm 
>>> program allows them downpayment to buy more land and also get more 
>>> equipment to shield the added tax burden [depreciation against income] of 
>>> the free cash payment.  Also the incredible benefit of Federal (free) 
>>> subsidized crop insurance.  This has gone on for decades and allowed for a 
>>> class of farmers to get bigger all the time to the point where there are 
>>> very few people in farming anymore. Yes, Has kept heavy industry (pick-up 
>>> trucks and tractors) in business during hard times too.  The problem is the 
>>> free cash coming in to the system.
>>> Fewer landholders now and now a class of equipment owners looking for land 
>>> to farm at the margin.  That right there is driving rents crazy.  Perceived 
>>> tight rents related to supposed commodity prices are driving land prices.  
>>> In the mean time there is an incredible amount of land that has been 
>>> brought in to row crop right now that new acres added to row cropping.  
>>> Planted with the new high tech incredibly high yielding seed that is way 
>>> more productive in crop yields than just a few years ago.  Average yield is 
>>> up even in drought times of the last summers.  If they get a decent year 
>>> they will be way over-produced.  Loan Payments will stumble on land, 
>>> equipment and inputs.  Land will consolidate further in to the hands of 
>>> holding companies from outside of farming.  Banks and insurance companies 
>>> hold title to a lot of ground already and this class of equipment owning 
>>> tenants is running around frantically trying to rent it. Even the younger 
>>> generation X members of the Adam family hunt ground and scwabble over land 
>>> rents to farm.  It is extremely competitive.
>>>
>>> This is what is going on.  It is a big deal that is a fast re-shaping in 
>>> the landscape.  Huge loss of private land owners has already happened.  
>>> Serfs and landowners.  Very few people own the land they farm in a typical 
>>> Iowa county anymore.  It is shocking and will never go back without some 
>>> kind of revolution to allow for access to own land by people.  The time of 
>>> the corporation has come and is here now.  Private ownership is really not 
>>> possible now.  The soil erosion of this big row-cropping is huge as an 
>>> added consequent of this farming.  Really a lot of soil has gone downhill.  
>>> Most anything with slope has really thinned to clay in the last few years 
>>> of these rains visible even to the naked eye.  These land holding entities 
>>> are sitting on thinning assets that way.  It is stunning.  Drive any 
>>> direction right now and you can see it.  We are getting repeated 
>>> rain-events and have been since late winter.  There is nothing on the 
>>> landscape holding the soil right now from this kind of large scale 
>>> mono-cropping row crop farming.  Welcome to the future,
>>> -Buck out standing in his field
>>>
>>>
>> Sounds like the future is the past.  After a brief reprise of a couple
>> centuries the landed gentry is taking back the land from the serfs.
>> After all weren't they deemed by God to rule over other humans.
>> Obviously because they were able to accrue lots of money which God wants
>> them to have.
>>
>> But probably with the observed increase of CO2 the party is over for
>> life on earth.  The future's so bright you're gonna need shades...
>>
> Yep, and this is coming much sooner than most experts expected.  We are 
> seeing the beginnings of the changes.  Do you have any dates from jyotish 
> that seem likely for major shifts or events?

I guess you would need a chart for the earth or humanity for that. But 
in our known history the planet has never experienced this large a human 
population.   It is like an infestation.  The population should have 
been capped at about 2 billion, humanely of course.   We are living in 
interesting times, though most prefer to ignore it. Ignorance is still 
bliss for many.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > This is a study about the dreams of most people.  But it did not mention 
> > anything about transcendental dreams or hypnogogia.
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i539ynXmh-c&feature=endscreen&NR=1
> >
> 
> Seems to suggest having flying dreams might be beneficial
> for learning the eventual actual levitation, for instance
> by practicing YF!
> 
> As I recall it now, I'd never had flying dreams or OBE (druring sleep) before 
> my sidhis course... LoL and go figure.

I was thinking that if a person had transcendental dreams, then the solutions 
to problems in the waking consciousness would be rehearsed and reenacted during 
the dream state in a blissful way.  He or she would then actually perform a 
creative solution during the waking state to fix the problem, whether it be in 
relationships or work issues.

>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Barry Wright wants attention

Why do you lot give him so much if you object to it?
 
> 
> Barry Wright loves attention
> 
> Barry Wright would kill for attention
> 
> Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he accuses 
> others of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, psychologist who 
> follow attachment theory may call him dismissive-avoidant.
> 
> He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at others being TB's.
> 
> Share and Xeno are his fans.
> 
> Pathetic.
> 
> 
> 
> On May 23, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Ann"  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
> > > really give much of a shit what other people think
> > > of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
> > > 
> > > The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
> > > that while he claims he doesn't give much of
> > > a shit what other people think of what he is,
> > > he still obviously wants to make absolutely
> > > sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well that worked. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> > > > always the same -- "**I** am > > being enlightened or even halfway 
> > > > intelligent here> and 
> > > > you're not!!!" 
> > > > 
> > > > Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
> > > > week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and 
> > > > reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I 
> > > > figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your 
> > > > buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm 
> > > > not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
> > > > In fact, do so more often, and at the beginning of a 
> > > > week, so we don't have to listen to them all week. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > But I'll stand on the posts I make themselves. If any-
> > > > one actually *believes* that I was affected by anything
> > > > you said in your button-pushed rants this week, that is
> > > > their prerogative, and their folly. I just saw an oppor-
> > > > tunity to get you out of our hair, and took it. 
> > > > 
> > > > And I might do it again next week, because frankly you're
> > > > too stupid to realize what's being done to you and learn
> > > > from it. Or I might just ignore your silly ass entirely, 
> > > > which will have exactly the same effect. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > It's YOU that yearns for attention, for pats on the back, 
> > > > and for "support" from your fellow minions, not me. THAT
> > > > is what put you on the bench. 
> > > > 
> > > > While you're on the No Self Control Bench for the next
> > > > few days, say hello to all of your other multiple FFL
> > > > personalities for me. I, for one, can't wait to meet
> > > > the next one, when you discover that you've exhausted
> > > > the doctordumbass one. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you have the hots for me, or something, Barry Wright? All this 
> > > > > about wanting me to be a woman. Dude, last night may not have gone 
> > > > > well for you, but I think now lusting after my ass is a bit much, 
> > > > > don't you?
> > > > > 
> > > > > You have no substantial reaction to my posts this week, except the 
> > > > > feeling like ice water running down your back, and the tightening of 
> > > > > your sphincter. You have made poor choices in your life, and you are 
> > > > > all bent out of shape when I point them out to you. Your life here is 
> > > > > a never ending rant against your core unhappiness. Please, go back to 
> > > > > sleep, dreaming deeply, and all will be well. Perhaps you can even 
> > > > > fantasize you and I having sex?? Whatever works...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Two things, TB: I am enlightened, established in infinite silence 
> > > > > during activity, and...and...you aren't. Your narcissism gives new 
> > > > > meaning to the expression, "Go fuck your [small] self".:-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > PS Your arithmetic is off. That's 50 for me. Thanks for all the 
> > > > > feedback from Message View, genius!!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sez the guy with only two posts left for the week,
> > > > > > after demonstrating a veritable orgy of attachment
> > > > > > and defensiveness all week. :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I must admit to one belief. The best thing that 
> > > > > > *ever* happened on Fairfield Life was Rick being
> > > > > > convinced to institute -- and enforce -- the 
> > > > > > Posting Limits. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Try to imagine what this forum would be like without
> > > > > > them. A few compuls

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Ravi Chivukula]

Barry Wright wants attention 

Barry Wright loves attention

Barry Wright would kill for attention

Yet he can't reveal it. He is the very troll, attention slut he accuses others 
of. I call him emotionally stunted - a therapist, psychologist who follow 
attachment theory may call him dismissive-avoidant.

He is a Rama/Lenz TB - now he had to yell and scream at others being TB's.

Share and Xeno are his fans.

Pathetic.



On May 23, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Ann"  wrote:

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
> > really give much of a shit what other people think
> > of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
> > 
> > The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
> > that while he claims he doesn't give much of
> > a shit what other people think of what he is,
> > he still obviously wants to make absolutely
> > sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Well that worked. :-)
> > > 
> > > Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> > > always the same -- "**I** am > > being enlightened or even halfway 
> > > intelligent here> and 
> > > you're not!!!" 
> > > 
> > > Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
> > > week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and 
> > > reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I 
> > > figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your 
> > > buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm 
> > > not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
> > > 
> > > You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
> > > In fact, do so more often, and at the beginning of a 
> > > week, so we don't have to listen to them all week. :-)
> > > 
> > > But I'll stand on the posts I make themselves. If any-
> > > one actually *believes* that I was affected by anything
> > > you said in your button-pushed rants this week, that is
> > > their prerogative, and their folly. I just saw an oppor-
> > > tunity to get you out of our hair, and took it. 
> > > 
> > > And I might do it again next week, because frankly you're
> > > too stupid to realize what's being done to you and learn
> > > from it. Or I might just ignore your silly ass entirely, 
> > > which will have exactly the same effect. :-)
> > > 
> > > It's YOU that yearns for attention, for pats on the back, 
> > > and for "support" from your fellow minions, not me. THAT
> > > is what put you on the bench. 
> > > 
> > > While you're on the No Self Control Bench for the next
> > > few days, say hello to all of your other multiple FFL
> > > personalities for me. I, for one, can't wait to meet
> > > the next one, when you discover that you've exhausted
> > > the doctordumbass one. :-)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Do you have the hots for me, or something, Barry Wright? All this about 
> > > > wanting me to be a woman. Dude, last night may not have gone well for 
> > > > you, but I think now lusting after my ass is a bit much, don't you?
> > > > 
> > > > You have no substantial reaction to my posts this week, except the 
> > > > feeling like ice water running down your back, and the tightening of 
> > > > your sphincter. You have made poor choices in your life, and you are 
> > > > all bent out of shape when I point them out to you. Your life here is a 
> > > > never ending rant against your core unhappiness. Please, go back to 
> > > > sleep, dreaming deeply, and all will be well. Perhaps you can even 
> > > > fantasize you and I having sex?? Whatever works...
> > > > 
> > > > Two things, TB: I am enlightened, established in infinite silence 
> > > > during activity, and...and...you aren't. Your narcissism gives new 
> > > > meaning to the expression, "Go fuck your [small] self".:-)
> > > > 
> > > > PS Your arithmetic is off. That's 50 for me. Thanks for all the 
> > > > feedback from Message View, genius!!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sez the guy with only two posts left for the week,
> > > > > after demonstrating a veritable orgy of attachment
> > > > > and defensiveness all week. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > I must admit to one belief. The best thing that 
> > > > > *ever* happened on Fairfield Life was Rick being
> > > > > convinced to institute -- and enforce -- the 
> > > > > Posting Limits. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Try to imagine what this forum would be like without
> > > > > them. A few compulsives could -- and would -- be
> > > > > flooding the place with post after post after post
> > > > > after post, trying to "win" their imaginary ego-
> > > > > battles with sheer volume alone. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hereby nominate Rick for sainthood. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Unless the "post flood" consisted of hundreds of
> > > > > posts from Doc "explaining" why 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> "I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
> really give much of a shit what other people think
> of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week
>
> The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
> that while he claims he doesn't give much of
> a shit what other people think of what he is,
> he still obviously wants to make absolutely
> sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.




>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > Well that worked.  :-)
> >
> > Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> > always the same -- "**I** am > > being enlightened or even halfway
intelligent here> and
> > you're not!!!"
> >
> > Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
> > week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and
> > reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I
> > figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your
> > buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm
> > not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
> >
> > You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
> > In fact, do so more often, and at the beginning of a
> > week, so we don't have to listen to them all week. :-)
> >
> > But I'll stand on the posts I make themselves. If any-
> > one actually *believes* that I was affected by anything
> > you said in your button-pushed rants this week, that is
> > their prerogative, and their folly. I just saw an oppor-
> > tunity to get you out of our hair, and took it.
> >
> > And I might do it again next week, because frankly you're
> > too stupid to realize what's being done to you and learn
> > from it. Or I might just ignore your silly ass entirely,
> > which will have exactly the same effect. :-)
> >
> > It's YOU that yearns for attention, for pats on the back,
> > and for "support" from your fellow minions, not me. THAT
> > is what put you on the bench.
> >
> > While you're on the No Self Control Bench for the next
> > few days, say hello to all of your other multiple FFL
> > personalities for me. I, for one, can't wait to meet
> > the next one, when you discover that you've exhausted
> > the doctordumbass one.  :-)
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Do you have the hots for me, or something, Barry Wright? All this
about wanting me to be a woman. Dude, last night may not have gone well
for you, but I think now lusting after my ass is a bit much, don't you?
> > >
> > > You have no substantial reaction to my posts this week, except the
feeling like ice water running down your back, and the tightening of
your sphincter. You have made poor choices in your life, and you are all
bent out of shape when I point them out to you. Your life here is a
never ending rant against your core unhappiness. Please, go back to
sleep, dreaming deeply, and all will be well. Perhaps you can even
fantasize you and I having sex?? Whatever works...
> > >
> > > Two things, TB: I am enlightened, established in infinite silence
during activity, and...and...you aren't. Your narcissism gives new
meaning to the expression, "Go fuck your [small] self".:-)
> > >
> > > PS Your arithmetic is off. That's 50 for me. Thanks for all the
feedback from Message View, genius!!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sez the guy with only two posts left for the week,
> > > > after demonstrating a veritable orgy of attachment
> > > > and defensiveness all week. :-)
> > > >
> > > > I must admit to one belief. The best thing that
> > > > *ever* happened on Fairfield Life was Rick being
> > > > convinced to institute -- and enforce -- the
> > > > Posting Limits.
> > > >
> > > > Try to imagine what this forum would be like without
> > > > them. A few compulsives could -- and would -- be
> > > > flooding the place with post after post after post
> > > > after post, trying to "win" their imaginary ego-
> > > > battles with sheer volume alone.
> > > >
> > > > I hereby nominate Rick for sainthood.  :-)
> > > >
> > > > Unless the "post flood" consisted of hundreds of
> > > > posts from Doc "explaining" why he encouraged people
> > > > here to believe he was female for all those months.
> > > > I'd never get tired of that. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Who else feels Doc building up to a new "identity
> > > > change?" It's about time for one, after all...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On the other hand, Barry is not the one who has
> > > > > > > pissed away 40 posts so far this week trying
> > > > > > > to play spiritual one-upsmanship games and
> > > > > > > convince himself that someone -- ANYONE --
> > > > > > > actually believes he's enlightened.
> > > > > >
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[Share Long]

Which side of a coin is the true side, heads or tails?
Reminds me of a wonderful Twilight Zone episode in which a young bank teller, 
after buying a newspaper, begins to hear the thoughts of others.  He hears that 
an elderly worker in the bank is planning to rob it.  He reports this and chaos 
ensues resulting in the young man getting carted away.  Before he goes, the 
elderly man tells him that he's been thinking of robbing the bank every day for 
60 years.  Then flash back to where the young man purchased his newspaper.  The 
coin he used to buy it is resting on its edge.





 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel 
Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
> > ---  Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Salyavin, I still think all this has something to do with WHOLE brain 
> > > functioning.  I still think either there's no brain that does this and 
> > > or science doesn't have instruments to measure such.  I postulate that 
> > > if both of these happened, it would be obvious that consciousness gives 
> > > rise to matter. 
> > >
> > >
> ---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > I think the phrase "whole brain functioning" refers to the
> > communication of different parts of the brain with each other.
> > TM scientists claim that doing TM improves the way the left
> > and right hemispheres work together making us more mentally 
> > flexible.
> > 
> > It doesn't extend to the atoms or molecules that make up the
> > cells in your brain. They just pass the electromagnetic impulses
> > along.
> > 
> > 
> > Am I totally brain washed?! 
> > 
> > I doubt it, but the new agers are so full of shit they want
> > you to believe so they can justify their latest BS quantum 
> > chakra rebalancing course that it's tricky to sort the wheat
> > from the chaff, especially now the internet has proved itself
> > such a fertile breeding ground for nonsense.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Allow me to rephrase the topic.
> 
> Judy's thesis is this.  There is a dark room. You are inside 
> it in darkness.  There is bright light outside. The windows 
> are covered with blinds with no light coming in.
> 
> You slowly open it a little bit with very dim light coming 
> in. Later you let some more light come in.  it's brighter. 
> Again later you allow a little more light to come in.
> 
> The room slowly become brighter and brighter until it's 
> fully illuminated from the light outside.
> 
> Salyawin's thesis is this.  You are in a dark room.  You 
> have a bulb and very tiny batteries.  You connect the 
> batteries to the bulb and get a very dim light. 
> 
> Later, you connect it to a bigger set of batteries and the 
> light is slightly brighter.  A little later, you connect it 
> to a even larger battery and so on.
> 
> The room becomes brighter and brighter untill it's fully 
> illuminated with powerfull batteries.
> 
> Which is could be correct?
> 
> If consciousness is an emergent phenomena that comes from 
> the ability to sense the outside universe, it would need the 
> hardware. It would be objective.
> 
> If consciousness came from the intelligence of the totality 
> of nature's laws, it's a software issue.  The Qualia aspect 
> of reality is interesting. It's subjective.
> 
> Bring it on, Xeno Taxius, Judy, Salyawin. 
> 
Which side of a coin is the true side, heads or tails? 
> 
> 
> > > 
> > >  From: salyavin808 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:57 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, 
> > > Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---  "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What is consciousness?
> > > > 
> > > > Tononi's Integrated Information Theory asserts that the level 
> > > > consciousness depends on a certain sophistication in the interaction of 
> > > > parts of a system. People point out that this means that even rocks are 
> > > > conscious, but Tononi doesn't like that interpretation and tries to 
> > > > make exceptions so that his theory can't be interpreted that way.
> > > 
> > > Why doesn't he just dump the whole stupid thing and be done with it?
> > > 
> > > > Even so, the level of interaction at the vacuum state is such that you 
> > > > can't deny a certain consciousness-like aspect to that particuar system.
> > > 
> > > Except that it isn't conscious in any meaningful way.
> > > 
> > > > What is fun, is that in the early moments of the universe, the universe 
> > > > was so small that you could think of it as one single system that 
> > > > interacted fast enough due to its small size, that the entire thing 
> > > > could be seen as one system.
> > > 
> > > For almost a trillionth of a second, yes. This is the same thing
> > > Hagelin uses to justify astrology and reading tea leaves. It is BS
> > > that 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

[Rick Archer]

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of sparaig
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:14 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., 
Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

 

  

I watched the 57 minute version of this panel discussion and a few things that 
I noted:

Apparently it is ok to mention Ramana Maharishi but not Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. 

Hagelin is careful at that conference, and probably others, not to come across 
as a TM/MMY proselytizer. Ramana is universally respected. MMY is not.

The meditation teacher in the center, I believe, was a long-term TM teacher, 
but now perhaps an independent teacher of his own set of techniques?

Mark McCooey? Nope. Not an independent teacher. No set of techniques.

John, I think, was biting his tongue almost continuously.

See above.

All the panelists seem to have fallen prey to the shortcoming that they mention 
where they assume they have arrived somewhere.

At least some of them have. They don’t have to assume. The critique was of 
those who mistake understanding for realization. These guys are quite well 
realized. Their understanding is just icing on the cake.



L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , 
"Rick Archer" mailto:rick@...> > wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> New post on Buddha at the Gas Pump 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  175. Panel Discussion â€" John 
> Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer
> 
> 
> by  Rick 
> 
> PANEL: The Three Simultaneously True Levels of Nondual Reality; Don't Mistake 
> Understanding for Realization, Don't Mistake Realization for Liberation. John 
> Hagelin, Ph.D., is a world-renowned quantum physicist, educator, public 
> policy expert, and leading proponent of peace. Dr. Hagelin received his A.B. 
> summa cum laude from Dartmouth College and his M.A. and Ph.D. from Harvard 
> University, […]
> 
>  Read more of this post
> 
>  Rick | May 20, 2013 at 7:06 am | Categories: 
>   &term=guests> Guests | 
> URL:  http://wp.me/p1q1S0-IB 
> 
> 
>  Comment
> 
>  See all comments
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: 
>  
> http://batgap.com/sand-panel-discussion/ 
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>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Quantum Metastabilistic Neutronium Apocalypse.

[Share Long]

Jeez, you have a nice holiday weekend too Universe!  (-:





 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:38 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Quantum Metastabilistic Neutronium Apocalypse.
 


  


Be afraid:

http://www.cracked.com/article_19117_7-horrible-ways-universe-can-destroy-us-without-warning.html

But not too much


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

[Share Long]

I was just rereading that Michael Goodman post on Brahman that you sent 
recently.  Brahman as the Knower jumped out at me.  My guess is the EEG you 
mention is indicating development from UC to BC.  I wish they could do some 
fMRI readings on all this.  Meanwhile it's fun to speculate and play with all 
these ideas.  For example, I've heard that food is Brahman.  I've also heard 
that Brahman is the Eater.  As Richard would say, go figure!  I've also heard 
that one of the jobs of the master is to break down all our concepts about all 
this.





 From: sparaig 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 7:47 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, 
Ph.D.,  Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer
 


  
Well, looking at both the EEG of pure consciousness, and my own admittedly 
crude personal experience, I'd say that only the see-er remains.

Of course, this goes back to the kind of meditation practice you engage in.

Virtually all the well-studied practices other than TM lead to a decrease in 
alpha (associated with non-directed attention or self-reflection) and an 
increase in gamma (associated with objects) or beta (associated with paying 
attention).

Long-term TM looks like short-term TM, but moreso: the simple alpha EEG of pure 
consciousness starts to become a trait outside of pure consciousness while 
gamma becomes less obvious.

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> L, I've heard others say that about only seeing remains.  I understand it 
> from the perspective of the development from GC to UC.  Both subject and 
> object of knowing get subsumed by and thus united by, the process of 
> knowing.  I prefer to call that knowingness.  It's kind of a funny combo of 
> statis and activity.  I've had glimpses only, not claiming anything other 
> than early morning waking state.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: sparaig 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:13 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John 
> Hagelin, Ph.D.,  Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer
> 
> 
> 
>   
> I watched the 57 minute version of this panel discussion and a few things 
> that I noted:
> 
> Apparently it is ok  to mention Ramana Maharishi but not Maharishi Mahesh 
> Yogi. The meditation teacher in the center, I believe, was a long-term TM 
> teacher, but now perhaps an independent teacher of his own set of techniques?
> 
> John, I think, was biting his tongue almost continuously.
> 
> The artist had some interesting things to say, but a couple of things he said 
> I fould off:   if I heard him correctly, he said that samadhi is where the 
> seeing is all that is left? That seer, process of seeing and seen merge and 
> only the seeing is left? Di he say or mean seer and I misheard?
> 
> Also, he made mention several times of breath suspension, but in fact, if you 
> can be aware that your breath has suspended, that is an awareness OF the body 
> or at least awareness of breath-suspension, and is not samadhi.
> 
> All the panelists seem to have fallen prey to the shortcoming that they 
> mention where they assume they have arrived somewhere.
> 
> L
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > New post on Buddha at the Gas Pump 
> > 
> >    
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> >   175. Panel Discussion â€" 
> > John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick 
> > Archer
> > 
> > 
> > by   Rick 
> > 
> > PANEL: The Three Simultaneously True Levels of Nondual Reality; Don't 
> > Mistake Understanding for Realization, Don't Mistake Realization for 
> > Liberation. John Hagelin, Ph.D., is a world-renowned quantum physicist, 
> > educator, public policy expert, and leading proponent of peace. Dr. Hagelin 
> > received his A.B. summa cum laude from Dartmouth College and his M.A. and 
> > Ph.D. from Harvard University, […]
> > 
> >   Read more of this post
> > 
> >   Rick | May 20, 2013 at 7:06 am | Categories: 
> >   Guests | URL:  
> >  http://wp.me/p1q1S0-IB 
> > 
> > 
> >   Comment
> > 
> >  See all comments
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: 
> >   
> > http://batgap.com/sand-panel-discussion/ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 

[FairfieldLife] Welcome to the Observerse?

[salyavin808]

Roll over Einstein: meet Weinstein
What are we to make of a man who left academia more than two decades ago
but claims to have solved some of the most intractable problems in
physics?

  [Dark matter]

There are a lot of open questions in modern physics
 .

Most of the universe is missing, for example. The atoms we know about
account for less than 5% of the mass of the observable universe - the
rest is dark matter (around 25% of the mass of the universe) and dark
energy (a whopping 70%). No one knows what either of these things
actually is.

At the subatomic scale, we know there are three families of fundamental
particles - called "generations" - and each one contains two quarks, a
neutrino and a negatively charged particle (the lightest being the
electron). But why are there three generations in the first place?

And the big one: why do the two pillars of 20th century physics, quantum
mechanics and Albert Einstein
 's general theory of
relativity, not agree with each other?

Solving these problems, the last one in particular, has been the goal of
many generations of scientists. A final theory of nature would have to
explain all of the outstanding questions and, though many (including
Albert Einstein himself) have tried, no one has come close to an answer.

At 4pm on Thursday at the University of Oxford, the latest attempt to
fill the biggest holes in physics will be presented in a lecture at the
prestigious Clarendon Laboratory
 . The man behind the ideas, Eric Weinstein
 , is not someone you might normally
expect to be probing the very edge of theoretical physics. After a PhD
in mathematical physics at Harvard University, he left academia more
than two decades ago (via stints at the Massachusetts Institute of
Technology and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem) and is now an
economist and consultant at the Natron Group, a New York hedge fund.

He may have an impressive CV, but Weinstein is in no way part of the
academic physics community. He will speak in Oxford at the invitation
ofMarcus du Sautoy  , one of the
university's most famous and accomplished mathematicians who also holds
Richard Dawkins's former academic position as the Simonyi professor of
the public understanding of science  .
Weinstein and du Sautoy met as postdoctoral mathematics students at the
Hebrew University in the 1990s.

Weinstein has been working on his ideas to unify physics for more than
two decades, but he only shared them two years ago with du Sautoy, who
since then has been keenly studying the mathematics. "I get so many
letters and emails to me explaining big theories of the universe and I
don't take them all so seriously," says du Sautoy. "Eric's been telling
me the story of his ideas and what I immediately found appealing about
them was the naturalness of them. You don't have to put in extraneous
things. There's a beauty about it that gives you a feeling that there's
a truth about it."

In Weinstein's theory, called Geometric Unity, he proposes a
14-dimensional "observerse" that has our familiar four-dimensional
space-time continuum embedded within it. The interaction between the two
is something like the relationship between the people in the stands and
those on the pitch at a football stadium - the spectators (limited to
their four-dimensional space) can see and are affected by the action on
the pitch (representing all 14 dimensions) but are somewhat removed from
it and cannot detect every detail.

In the mathematics of the observerse there is no missing dark matter.
Weinstein explains that the mass only seems to be missing because of the
"handedness" of our current understanding of the universe, the Standard
Model of particle physics
 . This is the most
complete mathematical description physicists have of the universe at the
quantum level and describes 12 particles of matter (called leptons) and
12 force-carrying particles (called bosons), in addition to their
antimatter partners.

"The Standard Model relies on a fundamental asymmetry between
left-handedness and right-handedness in order to keep the observed
particles very light in the mass scale of the universe," says Weinstein.

He says his theory does not have the asymmetry associated with the
Standard Model. The reason we cannot easily detect the dark matter is
that, in the observerse, when space is relatively flat, the left-handed
and right-handed spaces would become disconnected and the two sides
would not be aware of each other.

"Imagine a neurological patient whose left and right hand sides were not
aware of each other," he says. "You'd have a situation where each side
felt itself to be asymmetric, even though anyone looking at bo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[Share Long]

Jason, I liked your analogy and I think Judy asks a valid question.  What say 
you?





 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 7:42 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel 
Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>
(snip)
> Allow me to rephrase the topic.
> 
> Judy's thesis is this.  There is a dark room. You are inside 
> it in darkness.  There is bright light outside. The windows 
> are covered with blinds with no light coming in.
> 
> You slowly open it a little bit with very dim light coming 
> in. Later you let some more light come in.  it's brighter. 
> Again later you allow a little more light to come in.
> 
> The room slowly become brighter and brighter until it's 
> fully illuminated from the light outside.
> 
> Salyawin's thesis is this.  You are in a dark room.  You 
> have a bulb and very tiny batteries.  You connect the 
> batteries to the bulb and get a very dim light. 
> 
> Later, you connect it to a bigger set of batteries and the 
> light is slightly brighter.  A little later, you connect it 
> to a even larger battery and so on.
> 
> The room becomes brighter and brighter untill it's fully 
> illuminated with powerfull batteries.
> 
> Which is could be correct?
> 
> If consciousness is an emergent phenomena that comes from 
> the ability to sense the outside universe, it would need the 
> hardware. It would be objective.
> 
> If consciousness came from the intelligence of the totality 
> of nature's laws, it's a software issue.  The Qualia aspect 
> of reality is interesting. It's subjective.
> 
> Bring it on, Xeno Taxius, Judy, Salyawin. 

How do you account for the "you" in either of the above
scenarios? Where did it come from?


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[authfriend]

"I yam what I yam, as Popeye used to say. I don't
really give much of a shit what other people think
of what I yam."--Barry Wright, last week

The interesting thing about Barry's posts is
that while he claims he doesn't give much of
a shit what other people think of what he is,
he still obviously wants to make absolutely
sure we know what *he* thinks of what he is.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Well that worked.  :-)
> 
> Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> always the same -- "**I** am  being enlightened or even halfway intelligent here> and 
> you're not!!!" 
> 
> Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
> week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and 
> reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I 
> figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your 
> buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm 
> not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
> 
> You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
> In fact, do so more often, and at the beginning of a 
> week, so we don't have to listen to them all week. :-)
> 
> But I'll stand on the posts I make themselves. If any-
> one actually *believes* that I was affected by anything
> you said in your button-pushed rants this week, that is
> their prerogative, and their folly. I just saw an oppor-
> tunity to get you out of our hair, and took it. 
> 
> And I might do it again next week, because frankly you're
> too stupid to realize what's being done to you and learn
> from it. Or I might just ignore your silly ass entirely, 
> which will have exactly the same effect. :-)
> 
> It's YOU that yearns for attention, for pats on the back, 
> and for "support" from your fellow minions, not me. THAT
> is what put you on the bench. 
> 
> While you're on the No Self Control Bench for the next
> few days, say hello to all of your other multiple FFL
> personalities for me. I, for one, can't wait to meet
> the next one, when you discover that you've exhausted
> the doctordumbass one.  :-)
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Do you have the hots for me, or something, Barry Wright? All this about 
> > wanting me to be a woman. Dude, last night may not have gone well for you, 
> > but I think now lusting after my ass is a bit much, don't you?
> > 
> > You have no substantial reaction to my posts this week, except the feeling 
> > like ice water running down your back, and the tightening of your 
> > sphincter. You have made poor choices in your life, and you are all bent 
> > out of shape when I point them out to you. Your life here is a never ending 
> > rant against your core unhappiness. Please, go back to sleep, dreaming 
> > deeply, and all will be well. Perhaps you can even fantasize you and I 
> > having sex?? Whatever works...
> > 
> > Two things, TB: I am enlightened, established in infinite silence during 
> > activity, and...and...you aren't. Your narcissism gives new meaning to the 
> > expression, "Go fuck your [small] self".:-)
> > 
> > PS Your arithmetic is off. That's 50 for me. Thanks for all the feedback 
> > from Message View, genius!!
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sez the guy with only two posts left for the week,
> > > after demonstrating a veritable orgy of attachment
> > > and defensiveness all week. :-)
> > > 
> > > I must admit to one belief. The best thing that 
> > > *ever* happened on Fairfield Life was Rick being
> > > convinced to institute -- and enforce -- the 
> > > Posting Limits. 
> > > 
> > > Try to imagine what this forum would be like without
> > > them. A few compulsives could -- and would -- be
> > > flooding the place with post after post after post
> > > after post, trying to "win" their imaginary ego-
> > > battles with sheer volume alone. 
> > > 
> > > I hereby nominate Rick for sainthood.  :-)
> > > 
> > > Unless the "post flood" consisted of hundreds of
> > > posts from Doc "explaining" why he encouraged people 
> > > here to believe he was female for all those months. 
> > > I'd never get tired of that. :-)
> > > 
> > > Who else feels Doc building up to a new "identity
> > > change?" It's about time for one, after all...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the other hand, Barry is not the one who has 
> > > > > > pissed away 40 posts so far this week trying 
> > > > > > to play spiritual one-upsmanship games and 
> > > > > > convince himself that someone -- ANYONE -- 
> > > > > > actually believes he's enlightened.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My sense is that DrD doesn't give a shit whether
> > > > > anybody considers him enlightened.
> > > > > 
> > > > Yeah, Denial and acceptance, vs. non-attachment. Denial and acc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Well that worked.  :-)
>
> Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> always the same -- "**I** am > being enlightened or even halfway
intelligent here> and
> you're not!!!"
>
> Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
> week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and
> reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I
> figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your
> buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm
> not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
>
> You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
> In fact, do so more often, and at the beginning of a
> week, so we don't have to listen to them all week. :-)
>
> But I'll stand on the posts I make themselves. If any-
> one actually *believes* that I was affected by anything
> you said in your button-pushed rants this week, that is
> their prerogative, and their folly. I just saw an oppor-
> tunity to get you out of our hair, and took it.
>
> And I might do it again next week, because frankly you're
> too stupid to realize what's being done to you and learn
> from it. Or I might just ignore your silly ass entirely,
> which will have exactly the same effect. :-)
>
> It's YOU that yearns for attention, for pats on the back,
> and for "support" from your fellow minions, not me. THAT
> is what put you on the bench.
>
> While you're on the No Self Control Bench for the next
> few days, say hello to all of your other multiple FFL
> personalities for me. I, for one, can't wait to meet
> the next one, when you discover that you've exhausted
> the doctordumbass one.  :-)





>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > Do you have the hots for me, or something, Barry Wright? All this
about wanting me to be a woman. Dude, last night may not have gone well
for you, but I think now lusting after my ass is a bit much, don't you?
> >
> > You have no substantial reaction to my posts this week, except the
feeling like ice water running down your back, and the tightening of
your sphincter. You have made poor choices in your life, and you are all
bent out of shape when I point them out to you. Your life here is a
never ending rant against your core unhappiness. Please, go back to
sleep, dreaming deeply, and all will be well. Perhaps you can even
fantasize you and I having sex?? Whatever works...
> >
> > Two things, TB: I am enlightened, established in infinite silence
during activity, and...and...you aren't. Your narcissism gives new
meaning to the expression, "Go fuck your [small] self".:-)
> >
> > PS Your arithmetic is off. That's 50 for me. Thanks for all the
feedback from Message View, genius!!
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sez the guy with only two posts left for the week,
> > > after demonstrating a veritable orgy of attachment
> > > and defensiveness all week. :-)
> > >
> > > I must admit to one belief. The best thing that
> > > *ever* happened on Fairfield Life was Rick being
> > > convinced to institute -- and enforce -- the
> > > Posting Limits.
> > >
> > > Try to imagine what this forum would be like without
> > > them. A few compulsives could -- and would -- be
> > > flooding the place with post after post after post
> > > after post, trying to "win" their imaginary ego-
> > > battles with sheer volume alone.
> > >
> > > I hereby nominate Rick for sainthood.  :-)
> > >
> > > Unless the "post flood" consisted of hundreds of
> > > posts from Doc "explaining" why he encouraged people
> > > here to believe he was female for all those months.
> > > I'd never get tired of that. :-)
> > >
> > > Who else feels Doc building up to a new "identity
> > > change?" It's about time for one, after all...
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the other hand, Barry is not the one who has
> > > > > > pissed away 40 posts so far this week trying
> > > > > > to play spiritual one-upsmanship games and
> > > > > > convince himself that someone -- ANYONE --
> > > > > > actually believes he's enlightened.
> > > > >
> > > > > My sense is that DrD doesn't give a shit whether
> > > > > anybody considers him enlightened.
> > > > >
> > > > Yeah, Denial and acceptance, vs. non-attachment. Denial and
acceptance are choices made by the mind. Non-attachment, on the other
hand, is a condition of the mind. Denial and acceptance are willful
acts. Non-attachment simply is. Non-attachment is a functioning of the
mind and body that is automatic. To attempt to fake it, quickly becomes
awkward.
> > > >
> > > > Without silence always present in the mind, the only correlate
for non-attachment, is some willful act of the mind. Without the
presence of ongoing sil

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good spiritual advice even for just TM'ers on today's Zen 
> > > > calendar, "Stop your wandering, look penetratingly into 
> > > > your inherent nature, concentrate your spiritual energy, 
> > > > sit in zazen, and break through."  
> > > > Come to meditation while you can,
> > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > 
> > > Buck, since you seem to be collecting quotes that
> > > espouse your viewpoint on all of this, here's one
> > > for you:
> > > 
> > > "New spectacular and symbolic actions are needed 
> > > to wake up the sleepwalkers and shake the anaesthetised 
> > > consciousness. We are entering a time when acts must 
> > > follow words."
> > 
> > Dear Turq, Thanks.  Good quote.  
> 
> I thought you'd like it. 
> 
> The quote is the last thing written on his blog by
> the right-wing nut job who shot himself in the 
> Cathedral of Notre Dame to protest the legalization
> of same-sex marriage in France. 
> 
> Still like the quote?

LOL, don't give him ideas!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Ann]

Xeno's paragon of I-am-not-sure-what giving us a glowing example below of who 
he is and what motivates him each and every day of his life. Any other 
spiritual takers on becoming just like Barry?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Well that worked.  :-)
> 
> Doc, I have no interest in anything you say because it's
> always the same -- "**I** am  being enlightened or even halfway intelligent here> and 
> you're not!!!" 
> 
> Because you'd obviously gotten *your* buttons pushed this
> week by me stating obvious truths about the TMO and 
> reminding people of your somewhat sordid FFL past, I 
> figured I'd just "help you out the door" by pushing your 
> buttons even more. And it worked. "You're toast, and I'm 
> not." That's my counterpart of your act. :-)
> 
> You can rant your fantasies about my life all you want.
> In fact, do so more often, and at the beginning of a 
> week, so we don't have to listen to them all week. :-)
> 
> But I'll stand on the posts I make themselves. If any-
> one actually *believes* that I was affected by anything
> you said in your button-pushed rants this week, that is
> their prerogative, and their folly. I just saw an oppor-
> tunity to get you out of our hair, and took it. 
> 
> And I might do it again next week, because frankly you're
> too stupid to realize what's being done to you and learn
> from it. Or I might just ignore your silly ass entirely, 
> which will have exactly the same effect. :-)
> 
> It's YOU that yearns for attention, for pats on the back, 
> and for "support" from your fellow minions, not me. THAT
> is what put you on the bench. 
> 
> While you're on the No Self Control Bench for the next
> few days, say hello to all of your other multiple FFL
> personalities for me. I, for one, can't wait to meet
> the next one, when you discover that you've exhausted
> the doctordumbass one.  :-)
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Do you have the hots for me, or something, Barry Wright? All this about 
> > wanting me to be a woman. Dude, last night may not have gone well for you, 
> > but I think now lusting after my ass is a bit much, don't you?
> > 
> > You have no substantial reaction to my posts this week, except the feeling 
> > like ice water running down your back, and the tightening of your 
> > sphincter. You have made poor choices in your life, and you are all bent 
> > out of shape when I point them out to you. Your life here is a never ending 
> > rant against your core unhappiness. Please, go back to sleep, dreaming 
> > deeply, and all will be well. Perhaps you can even fantasize you and I 
> > having sex?? Whatever works...
> > 
> > Two things, TB: I am enlightened, established in infinite silence during 
> > activity, and...and...you aren't. Your narcissism gives new meaning to the 
> > expression, "Go fuck your [small] self".:-)
> > 
> > PS Your arithmetic is off. That's 50 for me. Thanks for all the feedback 
> > from Message View, genius!!
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sez the guy with only two posts left for the week,
> > > after demonstrating a veritable orgy of attachment
> > > and defensiveness all week. :-)
> > > 
> > > I must admit to one belief. The best thing that 
> > > *ever* happened on Fairfield Life was Rick being
> > > convinced to institute -- and enforce -- the 
> > > Posting Limits. 
> > > 
> > > Try to imagine what this forum would be like without
> > > them. A few compulsives could -- and would -- be
> > > flooding the place with post after post after post
> > > after post, trying to "win" their imaginary ego-
> > > battles with sheer volume alone. 
> > > 
> > > I hereby nominate Rick for sainthood.  :-)
> > > 
> > > Unless the "post flood" consisted of hundreds of
> > > posts from Doc "explaining" why he encouraged people 
> > > here to believe he was female for all those months. 
> > > I'd never get tired of that. :-)
> > > 
> > > Who else feels Doc building up to a new "identity
> > > change?" It's about time for one, after all...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the other hand, Barry is not the one who has 
> > > > > > pissed away 40 posts so far this week trying 
> > > > > > to play spiritual one-upsmanship games and 
> > > > > > convince himself that someone -- ANYONE -- 
> > > > > > actually believes he's enlightened.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My sense is that DrD doesn't give a shit whether
> > > > > anybody considers him enlightened.
> > > > > 
> > > > Yeah, Denial and acceptance, vs. non-attachment. Denial and acceptance 
> > > > are choices made by the mind. Non-attachment, on the other hand, is a 
> > > > condition of the mind. Denial and acceptance are willful acts. 
> > > > Non-a

[FairfieldLife] Forever young...rock and roll... ;)

[Carol]

Thought some folks here might appreciate this youtube. 

It left me grinnin' and bouncin'. 

http://youtu.be/zqfFrCUrEbY

"The amazing hit from the world's oldest rock band and most unlikely global 
superstars - The Zimmers - with a 90-year-old lead singer and a combined age of 
more than 3,000. This cover of The Who's My Generation is filmed in the 
Beatles' studio at Abbey Road. This is the band that showed the world that 
you're never too old to rock..."

[FairfieldLife] Quantum Metastabilistic Neutronium Apocalypse.

[salyavin808]

Be afraid:

http://www.cracked.com/article_19117_7-horrible-ways-universe-can-destroy-us-without-warning.html

But not too much

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros
Anartaxius"  wrote:
> > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > That he replies in kind to taunts is more of a mirror. If
> > > > > > he invents taunts on his own, that might bring him flack,
> > > > > > but here on FFL, it is impossible to avoid flack no matter
> > > > > > how spiritual you are. Anyone who questions sacred cows is
> > > > > > considered fair game by spiritual people who are perhaps
> > > > > > not so centred in their mindset as they would like to
appear.
> > > > >
> > > > > Barry doesn't get flak because he "questions sacred cows,"
> > > > > he gets flak because he's sadistic and obnoxious in the
> > > > > extreme, and because he's constantly inventing entirely
> > > > > gratuitous taunts on his own. Plus which, he doesn't tell
> > > > > the truth and has a penchant for projecting his own
> > > > > faults onto others.
> > > > >
> > > > > My opinion: You, Xeno, defend Barry because you want to
> > > > > appear more "spiritual" by setting yourself apart from the
> > > > > rest of us with regard to your expressed view of Barry.
> > > >
> > > > Considering what everyone thinks of him, how could that
> > > > possibly make me appear more spiritual?
> > >
> > > If I thought you didn't know, I'd tell you.
> >
> > Translation: the junkyard dog failed to get her rabies
> > shot this year.
>
> Isn't it fascinating that she seems to consider herself
> the Internet version of James Bond -- "Double-O Dog" --
> endowed with the "right to snarl."  :-)
>
> SHE has the "right" to light into anyone she doesn't like,
> and the corollary "right" to try to get everyone else on
> a forum to light into them the way she wants them to.
> But no one else has this right.
>
> The thing that's fascinating is that most of the people
> on her Enemies List don't even *try* to get other people
> to think the way they do. They just state their opinions
> on a subject or another poster, and then allow people
> to make up their own minds.
>
> For Judy -- and her minions -- that doesn't seem to be
> *enough*. They seem to feel that they have not only the
> "right" but the "duty" to try to make others think the
> way they do about posters they don't like. And when
> they don't, *they* get added to the Enemies List as
> well.
>
> And so the sad, sick cycle continues...





>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego distortion

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > (snip)
> > > > > That he replies in kind to taunts is more of a mirror. If
> > > > > he invents taunts on his own, that might bring him flack,
> > > > > but here on FFL, it is impossible to avoid flack no matter
> > > > > how spiritual you are. Anyone who questions sacred cows is
> > > > > considered fair game by spiritual people who are perhaps
> > > > > not so centred in their mindset as they would like to appear.
> > > > 
> > > > Barry doesn't get flak because he "questions sacred cows,"
> > > > he gets flak because he's sadistic and obnoxious in the
> > > > extreme, and because he's constantly inventing entirely
> > > > gratuitous taunts on his own. Plus which, he doesn't tell
> > > > the truth and has a penchant for projecting his own
> > > > faults onto others.
> > > > 
> > > > My opinion: You, Xeno, defend Barry because you want to
> > > > appear more "spiritual" by setting yourself apart from the
> > > > rest of us with regard to your expressed view of Barry.
> > > 
> > > Considering what everyone thinks of him, how could that
> > > possibly make me appear more spiritual?
> > 
> > If I thought you didn't know, I'd tell you.
> 
> Translation: the junkyard dog failed to get her rabies shot this year. 

Translation: Monsieur Grey only appears when he has a bug up his ass. I suggest 
you get an anti-rabies vaccine if you are worried about the dog. Other than 
that, take a moment to read authfriend's statement again and although there 
might be a touch of distemper there I think the dog is otherwise in excellent 
health. 
> 
> > 
> > > > (snip)
> > > > > I consider his taunts, if you want to call them that, more
> > > > > useful than getting into an argument with Judy, or Ravi's
> > > > > insane comments, because they are better aimed at the core
> > > > > of one's delusions.
> > > > 
> > > > Speak for your own delusions, please.
> > > 
> > > I do. I have a whole case full.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
> > ---  Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Salyavin, I still think all this has something to do with WHOLE brain 
> > > functioning.  I still think either there's no brain that does this and 
> > > or science doesn't have instruments to measure such.  I postulate that 
> > > if both of these happened, it would be obvious that consciousness gives 
> > > rise to matter. 
> > >
> > >
> ---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > I think the phrase "whole brain functioning" refers to the
> > communication of different parts of the brain with each other.
> > TM scientists claim that doing TM improves the way the left
> > and right hemispheres work together making us more mentally 
> > flexible.
> > 
> > It doesn't extend to the atoms or molecules that make up the
> > cells in your brain. They just pass the electromagnetic impulses
> > along.
> >  
> > 
> > Am I totally brain washed?! 
> > 
> > I doubt it, but the new agers are so full of shit they want
> > you to believe so they can justify their latest BS quantum 
> > chakra rebalancing course that it's tricky to sort the wheat
> > from the chaff, especially now the internet has proved itself
> > such a fertile breeding ground for nonsense.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Allow me to rephrase the topic.
> 
> Judy's thesis is this.  There is a dark room. You are inside 
> it in darkness.  There is bright light outside. The windows 
> are covered with blinds with no light coming in.
> 
> You slowly open it a little bit with very dim light coming 
> in. Later you let some more light come in.  it's brighter. 
> Again later you allow a little more light to come in.
> 
> The room slowly become brighter and brighter until it's 
> fully illuminated from the light outside.
> 
> Salyawin's thesis is this.  You are in a dark room.  You 
> have a bulb and very tiny batteries.  You connect the 
> batteries to the bulb and get a very dim light.  
> 
> Later, you connect it to a bigger set of batteries and the 
> light is slightly brighter.  A little later, you connect it 
> to a even larger battery and so on.
> 
> The room becomes brighter and brighter untill it's fully 
> illuminated with powerfull batteries.
> 
> Which is could be correct?
> 
> If consciousness is an emergent phenomena that comes from 
> the ability to sense the outside universe, it would need the 
> hardware. It would be objective.
> 
> If consciousness came from the intelligence of the totality 
> of nature's laws, it's a software issue.  The Qualia aspect 
> of reality is interesting. It's subjective.
> 
> Bring it on, Xeno Taxius, Judy, Salyawin. 
> 
Which side of a coin is the true side, heads or tails? 
> 
> 
> > > 
> > >  From: salyavin808 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:57 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, 
> > > Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---  "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What is consciousness?
> > > > 
> > > > Tononi's Integrated Information Theory asserts that the level 
> > > > consciousness depends on a certain sophistication in the interaction of 
> > > > parts of a system. People point out that this means that even rocks are 
> > > > conscious, but Tononi doesn't like that interpretation and tries to 
> > > > make exceptions so that his theory can't be interpreted that way.
> > > 
> > > Why doesn't he just dump the whole stupid thing and be done with it?
> > > 
> > > > Even so, the level of interaction at the vacuum state is such that you 
> > > > can't deny a certain consciousness-like aspect to that particuar system.
> > > 
> > > Except that it isn't conscious in any meaningful way.
> > > 
> > > > What is fun, is that in the early moments of the universe, the universe 
> > > > was so small that you could think of it as one single system that 
> > > > interacted fast enough due to its small size, that the entire thing 
> > > > could be seen as one system.
> > > 
> > > For almost a trillionth of a second, yes. This is the same thing
> > > Hagelin uses to justify astrology and reading tea leaves. It is BS
> > > that it means anything of the sort or consciousness or anything
> > > other than a bunch of hot whirly bits that know nothing about 
> > > themselves or each other.
> > > 
> > > > Interestingly enough, MMY describes the loss of consciousness of the 
> > > > entire system as the time at which matter and energy manifest, and in 
> > > > fact, at a certain point in the expansion of the universe, it cooled 
> > > > due to expansion to the point that what we call normal matter and 
> > > > energy came to be. So the universe got too big for the entire thing to 
> > > > communicate in a conscious way somewhere along the same time that 
> > > > matter and energy manifested.
> > > > 
> > > > Fascinating. I wonder if he had that description in mind all along when 
> > > > he worded things that way in his description of Vedic Cosmology.
> > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

[sparaig]

Well, looking at both the EEG of pure consciousness, and my own admittedly 
crude personal experience, I'd say that only the see-er remains.

Of course, this goes back to the kind of meditation practice you engage in.

Virtually all the well-studied practices other than TM lead to a decrease in 
alpha (associated with non-directed attention or self-reflection) and an 
increase in gamma (associated with objects) or beta (associated with paying 
attention).

Long-term TM looks like short-term TM, but moreso: the simple alpha EEG of pure 
consciousness starts to become a trait outside of pure consciousness while 
gamma becomes less obvious.

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> L, I've heard others say that about only seeing remains.  I understand it 
> from the perspective of the development from GC to UC.  Both subject and 
> object of knowing get subsumed by and thus united by, the process of 
> knowing.  I prefer to call that knowingness.  It's kind of a funny combo of 
> statis and activity.  I've had glimpses only, not claiming anything other 
> than early morning waking state.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: sparaig 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:13 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John 
> Hagelin, Ph.D.,  Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer
>  
> 
> 
>   
> I watched the 57 minute version of this panel discussion and a few things 
> that I noted:
> 
> Apparently it is ok  to mention Ramana Maharishi but not Maharishi Mahesh 
> Yogi. The meditation teacher in the center, I believe, was a long-term TM 
> teacher, but now perhaps an independent teacher of his own set of techniques?
> 
> John, I think, was biting his tongue almost continuously.
> 
> The artist had some interesting things to say, but a couple of things he said 
> I fould off:   if I heard him correctly, he said that samadhi is where the 
> seeing is all that is left? That seer, process of seeing and seen merge and 
> only the seeing is left? Di he say or mean seer and I misheard?
> 
> Also, he made mention several times of breath suspension, but in fact, if you 
> can be aware that your breath has suspended, that is an awareness OF the body 
> or at least awareness of breath-suspension, and is not samadhi.
> 
> All the panelists seem to have fallen prey to the shortcoming that they 
> mention where they assume they have arrived somewhere.
> 
> L
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > New post on Buddha at the Gas Pump 
> > 
> >    
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> >   175. Panel Discussion â€" 
> > John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick 
> > Archer
> > 
> > 
> > by   Rick 
> > 
> > PANEL: The Three Simultaneously True Levels of Nondual Reality; Don't 
> > Mistake Understanding for Realization, Don't Mistake Realization for 
> > Liberation. John Hagelin, Ph.D., is a world-renowned quantum physicist, 
> > educator, public policy expert, and leading proponent of peace. Dr. Hagelin 
> > received his A.B. summa cum laude from Dartmouth College and his M.A. and 
> > Ph.D. from Harvard University, […]
> > 
> >   Read more of this post
> > 
> >   Rick | May 20, 2013 at 7:06 am | Categories: 
> >   Guests | URL:  
> >  http://wp.me/p1q1S0-IB 
> > 
> > 
> >   Comment
> > 
> >  See all comments
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: 
> >   
> > http://batgap.com/sand-panel-discussion/ 
> > 
> > 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>
(snip)
> Allow me to rephrase the topic.
> 
> Judy's thesis is this.  There is a dark room. You are inside 
> it in darkness.  There is bright light outside. The windows 
> are covered with blinds with no light coming in.
> 
> You slowly open it a little bit with very dim light coming 
> in. Later you let some more light come in.  it's brighter. 
> Again later you allow a little more light to come in.
> 
> The room slowly become brighter and brighter until it's 
> fully illuminated from the light outside.
> 
> Salyawin's thesis is this.  You are in a dark room.  You 
> have a bulb and very tiny batteries.  You connect the 
> batteries to the bulb and get a very dim light.  
> 
> Later, you connect it to a bigger set of batteries and the 
> light is slightly brighter.  A little later, you connect it 
> to a even larger battery and so on.
> 
> The room becomes brighter and brighter untill it's fully 
> illuminated with powerfull batteries.
> 
> Which is could be correct?
> 
> If consciousness is an emergent phenomena that comes from 
> the ability to sense the outside universe, it would need the 
> hardware. It would be objective.
> 
> If consciousness came from the intelligence of the totality 
> of nature's laws, it's a software issue.  The Qualia aspect 
> of reality is interesting. It's subjective.
> 
> Bring it on, Xeno Taxius, Judy, Salyawin. 

How do you account for the "you" in either of the above
scenarios? Where did it come from?

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[Jason]

> 
> ---  Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Salyavin, I still think all this has something to do with WHOLE brain 
> > functioning.  I still think either there's no brain that does this and or 
> > science doesn't have instruments to measure such.  I postulate that if 
> > both of these happened, it would be obvious that consciousness gives rise 
> > to matter. 
> >
> >
---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> I think the phrase "whole brain functioning" refers to the
> communication of different parts of the brain with each other.
> TM scientists claim that doing TM improves the way the left
> and right hemispheres work together making us more mentally 
> flexible.
> 
> It doesn't extend to the atoms or molecules that make up the
> cells in your brain. They just pass the electromagnetic impulses
> along.
>  
> 
> Am I totally brain washed?! 
> 
> I doubt it, but the new agers are so full of shit they want
> you to believe so they can justify their latest BS quantum 
> chakra rebalancing course that it's tricky to sort the wheat
> from the chaff, especially now the internet has proved itself
> such a fertile breeding ground for nonsense.
> 
> 

Allow me to rephrase the topic.

Judy's thesis is this.  There is a dark room. You are inside 
it in darkness.  There is bright light outside. The windows 
are covered with blinds with no light coming in.

You slowly open it a little bit with very dim light coming 
in. Later you let some more light come in.  it's brighter. 
Again later you allow a little more light to come in.

The room slowly become brighter and brighter until it's 
fully illuminated from the light outside.

Salyawin's thesis is this.  You are in a dark room.  You 
have a bulb and very tiny batteries.  You connect the 
batteries to the bulb and get a very dim light.  

Later, you connect it to a bigger set of batteries and the 
light is slightly brighter.  A little later, you connect it 
to a even larger battery and so on.

The room becomes brighter and brighter untill it's fully 
illuminated with powerfull batteries.

Which is could be correct?

If consciousness is an emergent phenomena that comes from 
the ability to sense the outside universe, it would need the 
hardware. It would be objective.

If consciousness came from the intelligence of the totality 
of nature's laws, it's a software issue.  The Qualia aspect 
of reality is interesting. It's subjective.

Bring it on, Xeno Taxius, Judy, Salyawin. 




> > 
> >  From: salyavin808 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:57 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel 
> > Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > ---  "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > What is consciousness?
> > > 
> > > Tononi's Integrated Information Theory asserts that the level 
> > > consciousness depends on a certain sophistication in the interaction of 
> > > parts of a system. People point out that this means that even rocks are 
> > > conscious, but Tononi doesn't like that interpretation and tries to make 
> > > exceptions so that his theory can't be interpreted that way.
> > 
> > Why doesn't he just dump the whole stupid thing and be done with it?
> > 
> > > Even so, the level of interaction at the vacuum state is such that you 
> > > can't deny a certain consciousness-like aspect to that particuar system.
> > 
> > Except that it isn't conscious in any meaningful way.
> > 
> > > What is fun, is that in the early moments of the universe, the universe 
> > > was so small that you could think of it as one single system that 
> > > interacted fast enough due to its small size, that the entire thing could 
> > > be seen as one system.
> > 
> > For almost a trillionth of a second, yes. This is the same thing
> > Hagelin uses to justify astrology and reading tea leaves. It is BS
> > that it means anything of the sort or consciousness or anything
> > other than a bunch of hot whirly bits that know nothing about 
> > themselves or each other.
> > 
> > > Interestingly enough, MMY describes the loss of consciousness of the 
> > > entire system as the time at which matter and energy manifest, and in 
> > > fact, at a certain point in the expansion of the universe, it cooled due 
> > > to expansion to the point that what we call normal matter and energy came 
> > > to be. So the universe got too big for the entire thing to communicate in 
> > > a conscious way somewhere along the same time that matter and energy 
> > > manifested.
> > > 
> > > Fascinating. I wonder if he had that description in mind all along when 
> > > he worded things that way in his description of Vedic Cosmology.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > L
> > > 
> > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Afghan Students Protest Women's Rights Decree

[Buck]

Yep, these struggles are the steps of progress in enlarging equal rights for 
all.  Om yes, How is Girish Varma and the TM movement doing in India with 
women's rights?  Our India partners?  In the end even Girish will have been 
seen to have helped in the fight for equal rights even for women.  Enlargement 
in the human experience of equal rights is the force of change inherent in the 
Unified Field.  That is the human story on this planet.  It is right and 
natural law that every human is born with, to experience the Self as the 
Unified Field.  We must all fight to open this even for our neighbor.  The 
Meissnner Effect [ME] of coherent consciousness now is a powerful weapon on our 
side.  We should deploy it aggressively and more widely.   Our public policy in 
science, technology, and human spirituality as Americans should be that 
everyone should come now to meditation.
Our's is a liberation army on the move.
-Buck in the Dome

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> >
> > The decree on Elimination of Violence Against Women, which includes a ban 
> > on child marriage and forced marriage, makes domestic violence a crime and 
> > says rape victims cannot be prosecuted for adultery. It also outlaws 
> > "ba'ad," a traditional practice of exchanging women or girls to settle 
> > disputes or debts.
> >
> 
> It is called civilizing; bringing equal rights to all.  Including the 
> inalienable fundamental human right to transcend in all.  Enlarging equal 
> rights is a large part and duty of Being American.  It is good we are there 
> with the civilized part of the world in force.  It would be better if we 
> could get the David Lynch Foundation in there too teaching the children in 
> the schools how to meditate. 
> -Buck in the Dome 
>  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Fundamentalism is hard to erase.  But Afghans now realize that they are 
> > > under the watchful eyes of the modern world.  Will they eventually change?
> > > 
> > > http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-students-protest-womens-rights-decree-073905010.html
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

[Share Long]

L, I've heard others say that about only seeing remains.  I understand it from 
the perspective of the development from GC to UC.  Both subject and object of 
knowing get subsumed by and thus united by, the process of knowing.  I prefer 
to call that knowingness.  It's kind of a funny combo of statis and activity.  
I've had glimpses only, not claiming anything other than early morning waking 
state.  





 From: sparaig 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:13 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D.,  
Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer
 


  
I watched the 57 minute version of this panel discussion and a few things that 
I noted:

Apparently it is ok  to mention Ramana Maharishi but not Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. 
The meditation teacher in the center, I believe, was a long-term TM teacher, 
but now perhaps an independent teacher of his own set of techniques?

John, I think, was biting his tongue almost continuously.

The artist had some interesting things to say, but a couple of things he said I 
fould off:   if I heard him correctly, he said that samadhi is where the seeing 
is all that is left? That seer, process of seeing and seen merge and only the 
seeing is left? Di he say or mean seer and I misheard?

Also, he made mention several times of breath suspension, but in fact, if you 
can be aware that your breath has suspended, that is an awareness OF the body 
or at least awareness of breath-suspension, and is not samadhi.

All the panelists seem to have fallen prey to the shortcoming that they mention 
where they assume they have arrived somewhere.

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> New post on Buddha at the Gas Pump 
> 
>    
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>   175. Panel Discussion â€" John 
> Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer
> 
> 
> by   Rick 
> 
> PANEL: The Three Simultaneously True Levels of Nondual Reality; Don't Mistake 
> Understanding for Realization, Don't Mistake Realization for Liberation. John 
> Hagelin, Ph.D., is a world-renowned quantum physicist, educator, public 
> policy expert, and leading proponent of peace. Dr. Hagelin received his A.B. 
> summa cum laude from Dartmouth College and his M.A. and Ph.D. from Harvard 
> University, […]
> 
>   Read more of this post
> 
>   Rick | May 20, 2013 at 7:06 am | Categories:  
>  Guests | URL:  
>  http://wp.me/p1q1S0-IB 
> 
> 
>   Comment
> 
>  See all comments
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: 
>   
> http://batgap.com/sand-panel-discussion/ 
> 
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> 
> 
>   
> 
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > Good spiritual advice even for just TM'ers on today's Zen 
> > > calendar, "Stop your wandering, look penetratingly into 
> > > your inherent nature, concentrate your spiritual energy, 
> > > sit in zazen, and break through."  
> > > Come to meditation while you can,
> > > -Buck in the Dome
> > 
> > Buck, since you seem to be collecting quotes that
> > espouse your viewpoint on all of this, here's one
> > for you:
> > 
> > "New spectacular and symbolic actions are needed 
> > to wake up the sleepwalkers and shake the anaesthetised 
> > consciousness. We are entering a time when acts must 
> > follow words."
> 
> Dear Turq, Thanks.  Good quote.  

I thought you'd like it. 

The quote is the last thing written on his blog by
the right-wing nut job who shot himself in the 
Cathedral of Notre Dame to protest the legalization
of same-sex marriage in France. 

Still like the quote?  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Afghan Students Protest Women's Rights Decree

[Buck]

>
> The decree on Elimination of Violence Against Women, which includes a ban on 
> child marriage and forced marriage, makes domestic violence a crime and says 
> rape victims cannot be prosecuted for adultery. It also outlaws "ba'ad," a 
> traditional practice of exchanging women or girls to settle disputes or debts.
>

It is called civilizing; bringing equal rights to all.  Including the 
inalienable fundemental human right to transcend in all.  Enlarging equal 
rights is a large part and duty of Being American.  It is good we are there 
with the civilized part of the world in force.  It would be better if we could 
get the David Lynch Foundation in there too teaching the children in the 
schools how to meditate. 
-Buck in the Dome 
 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > Fundamentalism is hard to erase.  But Afghans now realize that they are 
> > under the watchful eyes of the modern world.  Will they eventually change?
> > 
> > http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-students-protest-womens-rights-decree-073905010.html
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

[sparaig]

I watched the 57 minute version of this panel discussion and a few things that 
I noted:

Apparently it is ok  to mention Ramana Maharishi but not Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. 
The meditation teacher in the center, I believe, was a long-term TM teacher, 
but now perhaps an independent teacher of his own set of techniques?

John, I think, was biting his tongue almost continuously.

The artist had some interesting things to say, but a couple of things he said I 
fould off:   if I heard him correctly, he said that samadhi is where the seeing 
is all that is left? That seer, process of seeing and seen merge and only the 
seeing is left? Di he say or mean seer and I misheard?

Also, he made mention several times of breath suspension, but in fact, if you 
can be aware that your breath has suspended, that is an awareness OF the body 
or at least awareness of breath-suspension, and is not samadhi.


All the panelists seem to have fallen prey to the shortcoming that they mention 
where they assume they have arrived somewhere.

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> New post on Buddha at the Gas Pump 
> 
>    
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>   175. Panel Discussion â€" John 
> Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer
> 
> 
> by   Rick 
> 
> PANEL: The Three Simultaneously True Levels of Nondual Reality; Don't Mistake 
> Understanding for Realization, Don't Mistake Realization for Liberation. John 
> Hagelin, Ph.D., is a world-renowned quantum physicist, educator, public 
> policy expert, and leading proponent of peace. Dr. Hagelin received his A.B. 
> summa cum laude from Dartmouth College and his M.A. and Ph.D. from Harvard 
> University, […]
> 
>   Read more of this post
> 
>   Rick | May 20, 2013 at 7:06 am | Categories:  
>  Guests | URL:  
>  http://wp.me/p1q1S0-IB 
> 
> 
>   Comment
> 
>  See all comments
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: 
>   
> http://batgap.com/sand-panel-discussion/ 
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Afghan Students Protest Women's Rights Decree

[Buck]

The decree on Elimination of Violence Against Women, which includes a ban on 
child marriage and forced marriage, makes domestic violence a crime and says 
rape victims cannot be prosecuted for adultery. It also outlaws "ba'ad," a 
traditional practice of exchanging women or girls to settle disputes or debts.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Fundamentalism is hard to erase.  But Afghans now realize that they are under 
> the watchful eyes of the modern world.  Will they eventually change?
> 
> http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-students-protest-womens-rights-decree-073905010.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > Good spiritual advice even for just TM'ers on today's Zen 
> > calendar, "Stop your wandering, look penetratingly into 
> > your inherent nature, concentrate your spiritual energy, 
> > sit in zazen, and break through."  
> > Come to meditation while you can,
> > -Buck in the Dome
> 
> Buck, since you seem to be collecting quotes that
> espouse your viewpoint on all of this, here's one
> for you:
> 
> "New spectacular and symbolic actions are needed 
> to wake up the sleepwalkers and shake the anaesthetised 
> consciousness. We are entering a time when acts must 
> follow words."
>

Dear Turq, Thanks.  Good quote.  Yes, certainly life is for the living while we 
got it and life can be an incredible opportunity for transformation employing 
discipline and action.  Certainly there are not a few people who are 
irresponsible in their life work, preferring the light to the heavy, shoving 
the heavy loads on to others and choosing the easy ones for themselves.  At 
every turn they think of themselves before others.  When they make some small 
contribution, they swell with pride and brag about it for fear that others will 
not know.  They feel no warmth towards practicing meditators and the meditator 
in community but are cold, indifferent and apathetic.  In fact such people are 
not part of the community. Or at least cannot be counted as true.  
-Buck

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > This is a study about the dreams of most people.  But it did not mention 
> > anything about transcendental dreams or hypnogogia.
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i539ynXmh-c&feature=endscreen&NR=1
> >
> 
> Seems to suggest having flying dreams might be beneficial
> for learning the eventual actual levitation, for instance
> by practicing YF!
> 
> As I recall it now, I'd never had flying dreams or OBE (druring 

er, during!

sleep) before my sidhis course... LoL and go figure.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are Dreams?

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> This is a study about the dreams of most people.  But it did not mention 
> anything about transcendental dreams or hypnogogia.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i539ynXmh-c&feature=endscreen&NR=1
>

Seems to suggest having flying dreams might be beneficial
for learning the eventual actual levitation, for instance
by practicing YF!

As I recall it now, I'd never had flying dreams or OBE (druring sleep) before 
my sidhis course... LoL and go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Everest the Hard Way

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Excellent set of pics from the first ascent of Everest by Hillary:
> 
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/gallery/2013/may/23/mount-everest-first-successful-ascent-in-pictures#/?picture=409328719&index=0
>


oops, it was of a training run, I was too amazed by the scenery
and lack of gore tex clad bodies to read the captions.

[FairfieldLife] Everest the Hard Way

[salyavin808]

Excellent set of pics from the first ascent of Everest by Hillary:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/gallery/2013/may/23/mount-everest-first-successful-ascent-in-pictures#/?picture=409328719&index=0