Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes
below From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:06:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes It's interesting to read this bearing in mind how attached Barry is to defeating his own enemies. The majority of his posts here are devoted to it (including this one). But he doesn't seem to realize that in this regard, he's no different than anyone else here. Except that he does it *at least* as much as anybody else. A few comments interspersed below... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip In battle (or pseudo-battle, such as Judo matches), people who throw themselves off balance by pushing *against* their opponent...uh...LOSE. End of story. They have in essence defeated *themselves* by allowing their self to become so attached to defeating the person they're pushing against. In politics, this same Judo Theory Of Everything explains (at least to me) the whole sad story of revolution/counterrevolution over the ages. Think the Russian Revolution. Everybody was so fixated on pushing *against* the czars that when they went away, they suddenly found themselves in the position of having nothing else to push against. And with that realization came another -- they'd never thought about what was going to happen if the czars went away. They were so obsessive about what they were *against* that they'd never put any thought into what they were *for*. Therefore, when their enemy was withdrawn from them, they had no idea what to do. So they made up *new* enemies, from within their own ranks, and created a *new* revolution against *them*. This scenario has repeated itself over and over and over throughout the centuries. On social media, you see exactly the same thing. Think FFL. There are people here who *still* fly into a rage and lash out *against* someone like Andrew Skolnick, with whom they have not interacted for more than a decade, and who never once posted to this forum. Actually nobody flies into a rage over Andrew. Interestingly, though, it's Barry who mentions him most often here. There are still people who cannot go a month without lashing out *against* someone like Curtis or Vaj or Sally Sunshine or Ruth or others who gave up on this place as a waste of their valuable time long ago. Since Robin gave up on this place on April 8, Advanced Search shows 93 posts from Barry that mention him. (This is subject to the same caveats as those for Barry's search for posts mentioning himself, of course, but these are posts from a single person, not the entire forum; and we all know Barry does mention Robin quite frequently.) And I would suggest that the reason is that the people who do this are Lazy Fucks, who have never put any thought into what they're *for* in life. For most of those lives, they've pursued the Easy Path, of only focusing on the things and people they're *against*. When those things or people are withdrawn *from* their focus, they panic, and keep pushing against them anyway. Exactly the case with Barry vis-a-vis Robin. NOT that I'm suggesting this might be happening on FFL the last few days, since their favorite push against victim stopped posting as much. It *can't* be that the folks who rag on him non-stop (or who emerged from the woodwork like roaches just so that they could rag on him again) Hey, Bob, Barry called you a roach! That couldn't mean he's pushing against you, could it? Barry, As a cockroach and member *under consideration* of the MGC, I hope you noticed the kiss I blew you as I scampered across your laptop screen recently; I was a little concerned to see you attempting those martial art moves as if your laptop was attacking you; as I believe Ann (Grand Poobah of the MGC) has mentioned: its only the Internet, and we're not actually real; at least in the sense that having a girl with you---in Provence in August---would be considered real; just between you and me (and the floorboards), your laptop is not the same thing as a lap dancer---or a blow up doll for that matter---no matter how much you squint at it. Share loved your Bee Gees link and asked me to pass this on to you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3091MHksLM4 Personally, I think she might be getting close to suggesting the two of you curl up in front of the fire channel together; I hear you can do that over SKYPE. can't think of anything else to do. That would be *embarrassing* for them, and we all know that their whole lives revolve around micromanaging their images to pretend that they're *never* embarrassed by their own behavior. :-) How often does Barry admit to being embarrassed by his own behavior? Gee, I can't think of a single instance. Anybody? Anyway, that's my theory, which is mine. You may agree with it, or disagree with it, and -- either way -- I don't really give a fuck. As much as it may pain those who
[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes
below From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:06:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes It's interesting to read this bearing in mind how attached Barry is to defeating his own enemies. The majority of his posts here are devoted to it (including this one). But he doesn't seem to realize that in this regard, he's no different than anyone else here. Except that he does it *at least* as much as anybody else. A few comments interspersed below... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip In battle (or pseudo-battle, such as Judo matches), people who throw themselves off balance by pushing *against* their opponent...uh...LOSE. End of story. They have in essence defeated *themselves* by allowing their self to become so attached to defeating the person they're pushing against. In politics, this same Judo Theory Of Everything explains (at least to me) the whole sad story of revolution/counterrevolution over the ages. Think the Russian Revolution. Everybody was so fixated on pushing *against* the czars that when they went away, they suddenly found themselves in the position of having nothing else to push against. And with that realization came another -- they'd never thought about what was going to happen if the czars went away. They were so obsessive about what they were *against* that they'd never put any thought into what they were *for*. Therefore, when their enemy was withdrawn from them, they had no idea what to do. So they made up *new* enemies, from within their own ranks, and created a *new* revolution against *them*. This scenario has repeated itself over and over and over throughout the centuries. On social media, you see exactly the same thing. Think FFL. There are people here who *still* fly into a rage and lash out *against* someone like Andrew Skolnick, with whom they have not interacted for more than a decade, and who never once posted to this forum. Actually nobody flies into a rage over Andrew. Interestingly, though, it's Barry who mentions him most often here. There are still people who cannot go a month without lashing out *against* someone like Curtis or Vaj or Sally Sunshine or Ruth or others who gave up on this place as a waste of their valuable time long ago. Since Robin gave up on this place on April 8, Advanced Search shows 93 posts from Barry that mention him. (This is subject to the same caveats as those for Barry's search for posts mentioning himself, of course, but these are posts from a single person, not the entire forum; and we all know Barry does mention Robin quite frequently.) And I would suggest that the reason is that the people who do this are Lazy Fucks, who have never put any thought into what they're *for* in life. For most of those lives, they've pursued the Easy Path, of only focusing on the things and people they're *against*. When those things or people are withdrawn *from* their focus, they panic, and keep pushing against them anyway. Exactly the case with Barry vis-a-vis Robin. NOT that I'm suggesting this might be happening on FFL the last few days, since their favorite push against victim stopped posting as much. It *can't* be that the folks who rag on him non-stop (or who emerged from the woodwork like roaches just so that they could rag on him again) Hey, Bob, Barry called you a roach! That couldn't mean he's pushing against you, could it? Barry, As a cockroach and member *under consideration* of the MGC, I hope you noticed the kiss I blew you as I scampered across your laptop screen recently; I was a little concerned to see you attempting those martial art moves as if your laptop was attacking you; as I believe Ann (Grand Poobah of the MGC) has mentioned: its only the Internet, and we're not actually real; at least in the sense that having a girl with you---in Provence in August---would be considered real; just between you and me (and the floorboards), your laptop is not the same thing as a lap dancer---or a blow up doll for that matter---no matter how much you squint at it. Share loved your Bee Gees link and asked me to pass this on to you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3091MHksLM4 Personally, I think she might be getting close to suggesting the two of you curl up in front of the fire channel together; I hear you can do that over SKYPE. can't think of anything else to do. That would be *embarrassing* for them, and we all know that their whole lives revolve around micromanaging their images to pretend that they're *never* embarrassed by their own behavior. :-) How often does Barry admit to being embarrassed by his own behavior? Gee, I can't think of a single instance. Anybody? Anyway, that's my theory, which is mine. You may agree with it, or disagree with it, and -- either way -- I don't really give a fuck. As much as it may pain those who focus
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
So it's all about collusion (smile). Sorry about the embalming crack, I thought everyone knew which FFL contributor employs the on-line voice of an undertaker; don’t get me wrong, I like some of Xeno's contributions; for example, I wish he had contributed more about engrams; but he easily slides into pomposity, at which point Ravi enjoys making him look like the energizerbunny after he just got hit by lightening. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4FEn-ZKdDg From: sharelong60 sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:41:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent observation? PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc From: Bob Price bobpriced@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.  Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
The Chairman of the board, and Ravi---before there was a Ravi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5_V9RT8aR8 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:45:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Yes, I was practicing up on my irony. Your ironing you say? We need to get a ruling from the Ironing Board.
[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
So it's all about collusion (smile). Sorry about the embalming crack, I thought everyone knew which FFL contributor employs the on-line voice of an undertaker; don’t get me wrong, I like some of Xeno's contributions; for example, I wish he had contributed more about engrams; but he easily slides into pomposity, at which point Ravi enjoys making him look like the energizer bunny after he just got hit by lightening. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4FEn-ZKdDg From: sharelong60 sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:41:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Bob Price D, how you do stumble into brilliance, pointing out one of the most fun aspects of studying literature: different interpretations of the same piece! You with your vain and deluded king, me with my trembling in their boots subjects who consequently are willing to collude with their sovereign in his vanity and delusion. Does the child's utterance not sweep all characters up in one innocent observation? PS I promise you on our sacred literary partnership that I have never sold any fluids, embalming or otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Price, I often enjoy when Ravi gets upset. All I'm asking for is a little consistency. I realize it's very silly of me. ***I would say Raja Ravi is consistent about encouraging self awareness; I can see where that might seem inconsistent, to old embalming fluid salesmen---with little or no sense of humour. PS I think that child was making a deep observation as in: you grown ups are cracked! ***and here I thought it was about the Emperor's vanity, thanks for the clarification; what the hell was Hans Christian Andersen thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCJt6aTiAc From: Bob Price bobpriced@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  Share, are you saying when the child said: But he isn't wearing anything at all!, he was making a fashion statement? I've never noticed Raja Ravi get upset, although he does quite often seem to make a meal out of Xeno's vanity. From: Share Long sharelong60@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Ravi, I realize you weren't talking about physical vulnerability. But why not? After all, you get quite upset when Xeno gets abstract! Of course, some folks also got upset when Xeno got not so abstract. Go figure! From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Hi dear SHare - as Judy says, it's irrelevant, I was not talking about physical vulnerability. Plus you are Saint Share - you are the queen of vulnerability, always accountable, responsible to your actions, your emotions - the epitome of my dream woman - accountability, responsibility and self-honesty are thy attributes. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.  Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
I can only hope this means Emily and I are being considered for full membership in the mean girls, because, frankly, we're finding being on the boring list---well, you know, pretty boring; don't get us wrong, we're flattered to be on any list in Voldemort's book of lists, we just think we've earned consideration for a higher calling. And to prove my personal commitment, I've ordered my first SPANX Men's starter kit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0QVBi112A From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:29:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) May I just say that I can go to bed tonight happy? In fact, I'm positively giddy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I believe it was the cinematography, with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than anything else was essential
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Judy, Judy, Judy, it's always a pleasure to hear from you, regret this will only be a drive-by appearance as I'm now fully employed, and the wife expects me to work for the salary she pays me; no more management consulting for me (shouldn't complain, I had a good 27 year run pretending that was work); my present retirement strategy is to work till I drop and then meet Robin in the big Starbucks in the sky (hope Melville will be there too), and find out what the hell happened at the bombing of Monte Cassino. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:36:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) BobbyBobbyBobbyBobby! What a treat to see you again. Like a big frosty tart-sweet glass of limeade, you are. Clears the palate and the sinuses. And boy, we needed that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnb7-nVKzLE From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:08:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) Bob, welcome back - are you here to restore musicality? Raise the bar a bit? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I believe it was the cinematography, with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than anything else was essential to making the experience possible for me. Another component of the film that worked the same way for me was Joaquin Phoenix's characterization of Freddie Quell, which allowed me to experience---as if for the first time---character types that I met as a child who were friends of my father that had served with him in WW2; JP's characterization of Quell had the same effect on me as a number
Fw: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnb7-nVKzLE From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:08:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) Bob, welcome back - are you here to restore musicality? Raise the bar a bit? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I believe it was the cinematography, with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than anything else was essential to making the experience possible for me. Another component of the film that worked the same way for me was Joaquin Phoenix's characterization of Freddie Quell, which allowed me to experience---as if for the first time---character types that I met as a child who were friends of my father that had served with him in WW2; JP's characterization of Quell had the same effect on me as a number
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Ravi, You will always be the man*. No one can make an insult sing and dance the way you can. I believe you should be required reading for anyone who believes they arrived anywhere. With the drawing of this Love and the voice of this Calling We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. Through the unknown, remembered gate When the last of earth left to discover Is that which was the beginning; At the source of the longest river The voice of the hidden waterfall And the children in the appletree Not known, because not looked for But heard, halfheard, in the stillness Between two waves of the sea. Quick now, here, now, always- A condition of complete simplicity (Costing not less than everything) And all shall be well and All manner of thing shall be well When the tongues of flame are infolded Into the crowned knot of fire And the fire and the rose are one. - T.S. Elliot Little Gidding (Quartet No. 4) *This forum has seen many explorers; you and Robin are two of them. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 11:13:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) Now where the fuck is Robin? :-) Damn that was good Bob - how can I be like you? You are one of most creative persons to have graced this list - you leave me with the dissonant feelings of delight, wonder coupled with envy !!! On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing. :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Since death is all we can count on (if taxes are not your thing, there's always Dubai or life as an illegal alien in the Netherlands) I think the key to picking a female householder is finding one with a shared belief in unicorns.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCz0mLFsSFE From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Dear Bob, Greetings to you and yours. Cherishing this moment to share this message. I mischievously piled on top of Ann's post last evening due to similar requirements of need, sleep and dreams. Please give the wife my well wishes, and please tell her not to worry about anything, because, even though John was married, he too had fans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLvTq6FdOj4 and may the post limits be dropped forever, and may the members monitor each other, just like the buddy system on a course, of course. -Obbajeeba http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54sZ8TFFAmY
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd5dYQHoZS0 From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:46:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) You came home! Welcome back, Bob. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I believe it was the cinematography, with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than anything else was essential to making the experience possible for me. Another component of the film that worked the same way for me was Joaquin Phoenix's characterization of Freddie Quell, which allowed me to experience---as if for the first time---character types that I met as a child who were friends of my father that had served with him in WW2; JP's characterization of Quell had the same effect on me as a number of characters Jim Thompson (writer of The Getaway
Fw: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Since death is all we can count on (if taxes are not your thing, there's always Dubai or life as an illegal alien in the Netherlands) I think the key to picking a female householder is finding one with a shared belief in unicorns. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCz0mLFsSFE From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Dear Bob, Greetings to you and yours. Cherishing this moment to share this message. I mischievously piled on top of Ann's post last evening due to similar requirements of need, sleep and dreams. Please give the wife my well wishes, and please tell her not to worry about anything, because, even though John was married, he too had fans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLvTq6FdOj4 and may the post limits be dropped forever, and may the members monitor each other, just like the buddy system on a course, of course. -Obbajeeba http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54sZ8TFFAmY
Fw: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd5dYQHoZS0 From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:46:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) You came home! Welcome back, Bob. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I believe it was the cinematography, with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than anything else was essential to making the experience possible for me. Another component of the film that worked the same way for me was Joaquin Phoenix's characterization of Freddie Quell, which allowed me to experience---as if for the first time---character types that I met as a child who were friends of my father that had served with him in WW2; JP's characterization of Quell had the same effect on me as a number of characters Jim Thompson (writer of The Getaway
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing. :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I believe it was the cinematography, with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than anything else was essential to making the experience possible for me. Another component of the film that worked the same way for me was Joaquin Phoenix's characterization of Freddie Quell, which allowed me to experience---as if for the first time---character types that I met as a child who were friends of my father that had served with him in WW2; JP's characterization of Quell had the same effect on me as a number of characters Jim Thompson (writer of The Getaway and The Grifters) created that felt as new, when I read about them in his novels, but reminded me of some psychopathic cowboy's my father socialized with. I wouldn't disagree that Voldemort's posts are full of conflict (more than one detective has found creative uses for the Yellow Pages, when interviewing a suspect)---and that conflict is essential to drama, but conflict without art is no more than conflict; Voldemort is also capable of irony, although I've yet to read anything ironic in his posts that was not
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Utopia (for NEMO)
the comment with a reply or a defense, I can keep my stress levels lower. Of course, this is not easy, and it takes a lot of practice! The other way is through creating an auric shield. To do this, I imagine my aura growing, expanding, and sparkling. It is a protective bubble that I envision, through which negativity simply cannot penetrate. From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Utopia From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:21:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Utopia --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/30/2013 12:52 PM, turquoiseb wrote: The Killing was SO much better in its Danish original that it makes the American remake pale by comparison, and I actually *liked* the remake...for what it was. The best TV series I saw last year, The Bridge, or Bron/Broen, also from Denmark, looks as if it will never get an American release. Instead they are going to remake it. I shudder to imagine the result. Both of these series were *enormous* hits in the UK, although subtitled. The thing is, the American networks somehow believe that Americans are too stupid to follow even the Brit accents in English-language UK series (and they might be right), so they remake *them*, too. This one (Utopia) is quite interesting, at least judging by the first episode that I just watched. You'd really enjoy it. A pity that it will probably be remade for the US market as well... The American general public unless it's PBS or BBC America can't tolerate accents much at all. So the remakes. Yup, dumbing down for the stupid. They don't like subtitles either so The Killing got a remake. People are going to think I'm being cynical when I say this, but I really don't think I am. I believe that the primary reason that subtitled movies have lost their market in the US is that many Americans, as many as 50-60%, simply can't read well enough or fast enough to enjoy a subtitled movie. ***BP: As a committed member of the great unwashed, is it me or did one the above informants, who appears to watch television a lot, call Danish an accent; and another informant, who also appears to watch a lot of TV, not only agreed, but also informed us that the reason viewers in America won't watch programming with Danish accents is that they can't read well enough? As a side bar, I consulted my thesaurus and for the life of me I couldn't find cynical as a synonym for *clueless*. Now, Share Long, if I've been ironic inadvertently, behaved like an attention vampire, or, much worse---violated the bounds of Whimsical Wednesday, please don't come after me, as I would hate to be forced to use Emily as a human shield; she may not be as clueless as I am, but I'm sure she's a lot more cynical (smiley face). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRR5YrpbBe4
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Utopia (for NEMO)
the comment with a reply or a defense, I can keep my stress levels lower. Of course, this is not easy, and it takes a lot of practice! The other way is through creating an auric shield. To do this, I imagine my aura growing, expanding, and sparkling. It is a protective bubble that I envision, through which negativity simply cannot penetrate. From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Utopia From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:21:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Utopia --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/30/2013 12:52 PM, turquoiseb wrote: The Killing was SO much better in its Danish original that it makes the American remake pale by comparison, and I actually *liked* the remake...for what it was. The best TV series I saw last year, The Bridge, or Bron/Broen, also from Denmark, looks as if it will never get an American release. Instead they are going to remake it. I shudder to imagine the result. Both of these series were *enormous* hits in the UK, although subtitled. The thing is, the American networks somehow believe that Americans are too stupid to follow even the Brit accents in English-language UK series (and they might be right), so they remake *them*, too. This one (Utopia) is quite interesting, at least judging by the first episode that I just watched. You'd really enjoy it. A pity that it will probably be remade for the US market as well... The American general public unless it's PBS or BBC America can't tolerate accents much at all. So the remakes. Yup, dumbing down for the stupid. They don't like subtitles either so The Killing got a remake. People are going to think I'm being cynical when I say this, but I really don't think I am. I believe that the primary reason that subtitled movies have lost their market in the US is that many Americans, as many as 50-60%, simply can't read well enough or fast enough to enjoy a subtitled movie. ***BP: As a committed member of the great unwashed, is it me or did one the above informants, who appears to watch television a lot, call Danish an accent; and another informant, who also appears to watch a lot of TV, not only agreed, but also informed us that the reason viewers in America won't watch programming with Danish accents is that they can't read well enough? As a side bar, I consulted my thesaurus and for the life of me I couldn't find cynical as a synonym for *clueless*. Now, Share Long, if I've been ironic inadvertently, behaved like an attention vampire, or, much worse---violated the bounds of Whimsical Wednesday, please don't come after me, as I would hate to be forced to use Emily as a human shield; she may not be as clueless as I am, but I'm sure she's a lot more cynical (smiley face). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRR5YrpbBe4
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Utopia
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:21:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Utopia --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/30/2013 12:52 PM, turquoiseb wrote: The Killing was SO much better in its Danish original that it makes the American remake pale by comparison, and I actually *liked* the remake...for what it was. The best TV series I saw last year, The Bridge, or Bron/Broen, also from Denmark, looks as if it will never get an American release. Instead they are going to remake it. I shudder to imagine the result. Both of these series were *enormous* hits in the UK, although subtitled. The thing is, the American networks somehow believe that Americans are too stupid to follow even the Brit accents in English-language UK series (and they might be right), so they remake *them*, too. This one (Utopia) is quite interesting, at least judging by the first episode that I just watched. You'd really enjoy it. A pity that it will probably be remade for the US market as well... The American general public unless it's PBS or BBC America can't tolerate accents much at all. So the remakes. Yup, dumbing down for the stupid. They don't like subtitles either so The Killing got a remake. People are going to think I'm being cynical when I say this, but I really don't think I am. I believe that the primary reason that subtitled movies have lost their market in the US is that many Americans, as many as 50-60%, simply can't read well enough or fast enough to enjoy a subtitled movie. ***BP: As a committed member of the great unwashed, is it me or did one the above informants, who appears to watch television a lot, call Danish an accent; and another informant, who also appears to watch a lot of TV, not only agreed, but also informed us that the reason viewers in America won't watch programming with Danish accents is that they can't read well enough? As a side bar, I consulted my thesaurus and for the life of me I couldn't find cynical as a synonym for *clueless*. Now, Share Long, if I've been ironic inadvertently, behaved like an attention vampire, or, much worse---violated the bounds of Whimsical Wednesday, please don't come after me, as I would hate to be forced to use Emily as a human shield; she may not be as clueless as I am, but I'm sure she's a lot more cynical (smiley face). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRR5YrpbBe4
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: (snip) The addition of asanas to program on courses didn't do anything to stop these negative side effects, however, as anyone who was on the Fiuggi course should remember. The first 2-3 rows at that course were reserved for heavy unstressers, and it was a real zoo. It looked like a convention of people suffering from epilepsy, Tourettes Syndrome, or both. Arms jerking and flying around, people grunting and yelling and moaning -- and all of this *in activity*, sitting in a lecture hall, not during program. In fact, most of these people were told to *stop* rounding and meditate normally, and *the symptoms did not go away*. For some of them these tics and jerks and uncontrollable spasms lasted for months. (Please note that all of this was the result of plain, vanilla TM, *long* before the Sidhis and *their* brand of grunting and twitching appeared upon the scene.) (snip) Personally, I believe that the basic laziness of the basic TM technique is at fault. The techniques of meditation at these other courses involved more focus. *Not*, as TMers were often told, concentrating on the mantra or other point of meditational focus, just being aware enough not to sit there for long periods time -- or for the whole meditation session -- lost in thoughts and daydreams. MMY thought this was OK, but most other traditions -- those based on *real* traditions as opposed to having been made up, like TM -- say that the lazy, effortless approach characterized by TM is debilitating, because long-term, this practice causes people to get stuck in the astral and become spaced out and reclusive and incapable of being grounded in activity. That's certainly what I saw on TM courses, but *never* on courses from these other traditions whose courses I attended. ***BP: Do you mean if I concentrated more I'd stop taking the Lords name in vain and saying WTF so much, thank God you cleared that the fuck up; in Calla Millor and Fiuggi, God (I mean Maharishi) put me in the back row to help me deal with my feelings of terminal uniqueness; which, in Fiuggi, in that God damn big event center, pretty much put me in the next county, which I think was God's plan in the first place; BTW, I thought all that arm waving at the front of the auditorium in Fiuggi was just the other acid heads letting me know they had arrived for the lecture (smiley face).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Good article about bad writing
Barry, Have I got this right; Ms. Ros published three novels, two while she was with us and one posthumously (as well as two books of poetry), and with the winnings from her second opus she bought herself a house (naming it after her first novel), and currently first editions of her work sell for up to $500 a pop? By comparison, you rent communally, and your output includes one e-book that is available online for free, and judging from today’s posts and the fact that you rarely miss a day of posting on FFL, I would conservatively estimate that you post 80-100k words (the length of a novel) annually on FFL; so by my reckoning you've written ten novels, with basically the same theme: (to steal from Groucho) I wouldn't want to belong to a club that would have me as a member, with no compensation, in the past ten years (how am I doing so far)? Considering the fact that you're in a small group of FFL posters that charge a fee for their writing services, would it be fair for some of us to think you're the poster (she seems to have no discernible similarities to Judy or Feste) best compared to Ms. Ros, and therefore wonder why you haven't taken a page or two from her writing, and learned how to get paid better for your efforts; or were you just being ironic, type, type, type (smiley face)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergraphia From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:18:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Good article about bad writing On a number of forums I haunt, I've noticed lately a number of wannabee writers who seem...uh...as unaware of the paucity of their writing talent as they are their obvious, overwhelming need for attention. On some of these forums they have developed the same kind of ironic following that Mark O'Connell speaks of below, and equally without noticing that the praise they were so desperate for is being delivered tongue in cheek. It's all very amusing. Up to now I've been calling this style of writing the PMP (Praise me, please) school of writing, but thanks to this article I now realize that there's more to it than that. Ros sounds as if she'd fit right in on Fairfield Life, because the standards are so low here that she'd probably develop a non-ironic following, and become the star she always imagined herself to be, so I pass the article along for amusement purposes. Bolding below is mine, merely to highlight great insights: Amanda McKittrick Ros, the Worst Novelist in History … Maybe. An excerpt from Mark O'Connell's Epic Fail. This is an excerpt from Mark O'Connell's Epic Fail, anoriginal e-book published by The Millions. Who was the worst novelist in history? A definitive answer is probably impossible, given that total artistic failure traditionally results in total obscurity. But it would be foolish to even consider the question without taking into account a very notable exception to that rule—a schoolmistress from Northern Ireland whose novels were so uniquely and thrillingly terrible that, in the early years of the last century, she became an ironic cause célèbre among the cultural luminaries of her time. Her story gives us some perspective on what we tend to think of as a uniquely contemporary phenomenon: the ironic appreciation of bad art—of monkey-faced frescos and multichapter RB melodramas. This terrible novelist was a sort of early avatar of the spirit of the Epic Fail. She was born Anna McKittrick in the village of Drumaness in 1860 and became Anna Ross when, after taking up a teaching position in Larne, she married the town's stationmaster, Andrew Ross. When she began to write novels, she did so under the pseudonym Amanda McKittrick Ros, taking the name Amanda from an Irish romantic novel and dropping the second S in her husband's surname in order to imply a connection with the noble de Ros family of County Down. For their 10th wedding anniversary, she convinced Andrew to put up the cash to have her first novel, Irene Iddesleigh, printed in Dublin. The novel isn't, in any conventional sense, a page-turner. Over 189 pages, Irene Iddesleigh tells the story of a young Canterbury lady who marries an older man, realizes she doesn't love him, and then elopes to America with her tutor. The tutor in question, Oscar Otwell, turns out to be a total boozehound and gets sacked for being oiled up on the job. That night, he comes home drunk and either rapes Irene or just says a lot of horrible things to her. (It's not clear from Ros' narration, which is nominally omniscient but still frequently leaves the reader unenlightened.) He then drowns himself, and Irene decides to cut her losses and return to England. At least, I think that's what happens; I wouldn't want to fully commit to that interpretation. But it hardly matters either way. It isn't for their plots that people read Ros' novels. They read them for their
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up
Emily, As you thought, Playa is much less like that than Cancun. We're staying with friends that own a nice place near the water. Although it's warm, it's been cloudy, but, as the wife likes to reminds me, I need to work on my gratitude. I have noticed that it's impossible to be angry (or fearful), and grateful at the same time. My only requirement for a therapist is a sense of humor, how else could they understand God (smiley face). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVAnlke_xUY From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:09:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up Thanks Bob. I love Marc Cohn. When I was turning 40, a friend, whose birthday was 5 days from mine set up a trip to Cancun with a couple of other friends of hers. One of those timeshare deals. My first trip to Mexico. She flew us first class - my first time on first class - what a great thing. We were assaulted with the program once we got there, but we did make it to chitzen itza and did some snorkeling and I loved the pool. The hotel grounds had a pervasive smell of septic, in that the system was failing, which ruined the beach - too much development on that spit to put it mildly. After a couple of nights of being herded around like cattle to the different clubs, where waitresses tried to force shots of very bad tequila down us, I ditched. I was carrying around a Spanish/English dictionary and hailed a cab to go the older part of town and found a jazz club run by an expat with live music - the best night I had. We all determined that Playa Del Carmen was where we would go next time, but that time never came, as is often the case. Nice place to be right now. As an aside, I saw the family counselor yesterday, who took one look at me in my Sun Valley wool hat, two scarves, and raincoat covered in dog hair, and informed me that it's a myth that motivation precedes action. I must get going (smiley face). From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up Too bad about the link, it played just fine in Playa Del Carmen; how about these: OBBA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwR0n87v2BQ EMILY: http://tinyurl.com/ah6ye8j ONCE UPON A TIME: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvDJ5a6KZj4 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:41:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up I noted the same about the link, but know the song and thus moved to Bob's other link of the book. What a great book; a great offering with wonderful drawings. The pages turn for you, which is very cool. That is a pertinent link to what Curtis posted and I have saved it to peruse. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up FFL, the endless battle of who did what, and how come I am not fucking enlightened yet. Hey Bob, the link you put at the end of your post below on this thread, it does not work if one lives in the States. I love Purple rain to go along with those purple high stretch stiletto boots, please share a link we can see from here, the States.. Emily would most likely appreciate it too! The mention in a post to the Turq, I do not live in Fairfield, and not in Manhattan (deduct my non response of 72nd and 4th)(nor the L train from Willamsburg) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhgjEObtrWE Oh,Give me a ticket on an Air-o-plane. you now have minus three areas I may or may not live,at certain times. :) I live in my skin, the blanket of FFL. You guys and ladies, are my warmth. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: MILAREPA once sent three of his devotees, each with a blanket, into the mountains of Tibet with the instruction to not return until they had mastered their inner heat. The monks found an ice field, laid out their blankets, and began to mediate; windstorms and angry blizzards pummeled the three adherents and covered them with ice and snow, but the three continued to mediate without interruption. Finally, after ten years had passed, one of the monks opened his eyes and glared at the monk beside him and angrily shouted: You're sitting on my blanket! The angry monk then closed his eyes and the three continued to mediate. More wind
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article about bad writing
Judy, This proves, once again, that you truly can't make some things up (smiley face). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV3u6kS2mmE From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:39:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article about bad writing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: Considering the fact that you're in a small group of FFL posters that charge a fee for their writing services, would it be fair for some of us to think you're the poster (she seems to have no discernible similarities to Judy or Feste) best compared to Ms. Ros, and therefore wonder why you haven't taken a page or two from her writing, and learned how to get paid better for your efforts; or were you just being ironic, type, type, type (smiley face)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergraphia Could be worse, Bob. From the page at the link: The Reverend Robert Shields maintained a diary chronicling every 5 minutes of his life from 1972 until a stroke disabled him in 1997. The diary fills 81 boxes and contains approximately 37.5 million words. This gargantuan work details every minutae of Shields' life, including extensive details of his bowel movements, blood pressure, body temperature, and various medications, as well as extensive lists of the groceries he bought and their prices. Many entries consist of 'I was at the keyboard of the IBM Wheelwriter, making entries for the diary.'
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up
Too bad about the link, it played just fine in Playa Del Carmen; how about these: OBBA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwR0n87v2BQ EMILY: http://tinyurl.com/ah6ye8j ONCE UPON A TIME: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvDJ5a6KZj4 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:41:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up I noted the same about the link, but know the song and thus moved to Bob's other link of the book. What a great book; a great offering with wonderful drawings. The pages turn for you, which is very cool. That is a pertinent link to what Curtis posted and I have saved it to peruse. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up FFL, the endless battle of who did what, and how come I am not fucking enlightened yet. Hey Bob, the link you put at the end of your post below on this thread, it does not work if one lives in the States. I love Purple rain to go along with those purple high stretch stiletto boots, please share a link we can see from here, the States.. Emily would most likely appreciate it too! The mention in a post to the Turq, I do not live in Fairfield, and not in Manhattan (deduct my non response of 72nd and 4th)(nor the L train from Willamsburg) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhgjEObtrWE Oh,Give me a ticket on an Air-o-plane. you now have minus three areas I may or may not live,at certain times. :) I live in my skin, the blanket of FFL. You guys and ladies, are my warmth. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: MILAREPA once sent three of his devotees, each with a blanket, into the mountains of Tibet with the instruction to not return until they had mastered their inner heat. The monks found an ice field, laid out their blankets, and began to mediate; windstorms and angry blizzards pummeled the three adherents and covered them with ice and snow, but the three continued to mediate without interruption. Finally, after ten years had passed, one of the monks opened his eyes and glared at the monk beside him and angrily shouted: You're sitting on my blanket! The angry monk then closed his eyes and the three continued to mediate. More wind, snow and ice storms hit the mountain and froze the monks solid, but still they continued their practice without interruption. After another ten years had passed the second monk opened his eyes and shouted: No I'm not! The second angry monk then closed his eyes again, and the three continued to mediate peacefully. More blizzards and wind storms hit the mountain and covered the three monks with freezing rain and snow; the howling wind was deafening, and at times the three mediating monks were encased in solid blocks of ice, but they remained immoveable and continued to mediate uninterrupted. Finally, after another ten years had passed (making it thirty years since they had arrived), the third monk suddenly jumped up, grabbed his blanket, and ran down the mountain, back to the monastery where MILAREPA was waiting. MILAREPA asked the devotee: Why have you returned, have you mastered your inner heat? And the third monk answered: No master, I'm back because I got sick and tired of all the bickering and fighting! For OBBA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bydB3-k-qU From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:44:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up Just so this doesn't get buried inside a topic many people weren't reading, here it is with a new title, and under a new thread. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote: What makes you think that this negatively charged tone is in THEM? It seems to me that a large number of people *project* such things ONTO the TM critics, because they're heavily attached to Maharishi and TM, and *their* buttons got pushed. They're experiencing emotions inside themselves that they perceive as negative, so they project the source of that perceived negativity onto the critic. To expand upon this, Share, here's what I saw happen in this thread about the fundraising for Vedaland. Based upon what Michael and Salyavin have said about this incident, it seems clear that the TM organization not only was guilty of selling shares in a venture they knew was not going to happen because
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....to Michael
Steve, I believe you know my fondness for you; this post of yours implies that, in her exchanges with him, Judy *demeaned* Navashok by stating the fact that English does not appear to be his first language; are you suggesting that she was being intolerant and that her comments were gratuitous despite the fact Navashok was *attempting* to insult her, and that she should be a better sport and when Navashok shows up to a gunfight with a cudgel, she should spot him her ammo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DzcOCyHDqc From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:49:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.to Michael Hey Share, For the record, I had no idea that Navashok was the same as Irantea. But rather being made to feel that I am stupid, as Judy would seem to imply, I chalk it up to just not being dialed in to the characteristics of people's posting style. And as well, I thought his command of english was quite good, and his analysis of the puja, excellent. And along these same lines, it would not occur to me to try to demean a person who is not a native speaker, because they make ocassional errors in how they write. Or when I diagree with them, to use that as some kind of crudgel. You know, faint level of feeling and all that. No response needed Share. Just saying this for my benefit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Steve, like I said... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Judy, what I gather is that a big part of your personality is to engage in petty, mean spirited, meaningless debates. So, I am sorry if I don't accord your opinions much respect. But, to borrow a line from Share, still wishing you healing in this regard. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Steve, the great advantage of the macro I suggested is that it wouldn't reveal the deficiencies in your thinking processes that show up when you attempt to construct reasons for your conclusions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Guess it turns out that Share and Michael are able to communicate in a civil way, and iron out any differences. Sure a far cry from the way Barry and Judy wished to charactorize the interaction. But I guess if you see an opening to push your agenda you're going to do it, whether it makes sense or not. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Thanks for the good wishes, Share - being on FFL has been a learning experience for me in many ways. In part it has helped me to deal with the unresolved understandings of how something that appeared to be so good for me could come in the context of what in the past was odd and incomprehensible behavior from Maha and his TM Movement. I have now a clear understanding of all my TM experiences and understand it now. I am still learning some things about what has gone down with the TMO in years past and for my part I do not have the feeling it does me any good to hear all these things (like TMO reps pressing people to give $50,000 minimum payment for a Vedaland project the TMO knew was not going to be built AND using films of Doug Henning when they knew he was dying) and talk sweetness and light about Marsh-hee and the TMO. The negativity you experience was and is created by Mar-ha-ree-shee and his organization. Myself and a few others here who speak about this aren't the creators of the negative energy. As I have said before, if a man robs a bank and you call him a robber it isn't negativity. If a man masquerades as a spiritual leader claiming to have no interest in women, power and money and is a liar, a womanizer, a money hungry self aggrandizing charlatan who needed his title and picture on everything under the sun and someone describes that person and his organization in just that way, it isn't negative, just reporting the truth. But when such truth feels negative, maybe it is bumping up against the illusions some hold about Maha being the spiritual savior of Mother Earth. One never knows what a post here on FFL will bring forth from others - its always interesting! I read what everyone has said so far and I agree with Barry - why not discuss the incident itself - one reason I had such a reaction was I had never heard of TMO deliberately soliciting rounding sidhas/governors to make a major financial decision while doing long term rounding - it surely goes against every rule of rounding I ever heard of. But perhaps I should appreciate the TMO and Marshy more fully - maybe they took and take the John Jones approach
Re: [FairfieldLife] In space no one will hear you scream. Because you won't.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXPgd3CiQ6Y Sorry Share Long, I wasn't ignoring you, I've been attending a course in Mexico: An alchemists guide to quantity surveying, general relativity, scent development and compassionate list making; I'm presently on a break before we get started on the next module: The specific gravity of an ECHO. Something that may not have come through in my previous communications is how much of a fan of yours I am, I think you're one of the originals on this list; as an unrepentant capitalist (granted, with anarchist leanings), I'm drawn to the countless forms of human consumption (except, of course, the wasting disease kind); I see the truth in eat more, as a remedy for constipation (offered by witch doctors to their patients), and encourage whenever possible all forms of consumption (economic and spiritual). In short, I consider heroic consumption the Holy Grail of what makes capitalism such a stand out system for bringing out the best in people. I think your whole approach to the consumption of spiritual techniques, amulets, essence oils, counselors, motivational speakers, cranial adjustments, and astrologers, has more than a few legs, and may be what so many of us are looking for; not unlike participating in Black Friday at Best Buy needs legs, if you're not going to end up on the wrong end of the stampede. So Share Long, I say go for it, and know you have a friend in old grumpy boots, who is watching your back with all these mono Mayan types on FFL, who wouldn't know a true seeker from a bag of Erewhon rice: I say, why be a sniper when you can defoliate the jungle with bullets. And BTW, presently (changes daily) my own practice includes: mantras used in Aryan twelve step programs to treat soma addiction in their pre Merv settlements, Nigerian sea foam tourmaline light therapy, cedar ship baths, tantric techniques for sand boarding as taught by Malikat Saba (the Queen of Sheba) in Mareb prior to her rendezvous with Solomon, a Coptic tutor who is helping me with the discourses of Athanasius on the short comings of the Arian heresy, fluttering visualization of newborn glass wing butterflies, Norman Mailer's THE ARMIES OF THE NIGHT*, and why Oprah couldn't get Lance to get real;-)**. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBSrBqogPY *A Pulitzer Prize winning example of the *non-fiction novel*, (arguably, a genre invented by Truman Capote with IN COLD BLOOD, please don't mention this to the Dutch poster who believes Capote couldn't write, particularly compared to Kerouac; the writer the Dutch poster most wants to be when he grows up---type, type, type) where the author referred to himself (the protagonist) in the third person as Mailer; IMO, a technique used just as effectively in ALL THE PRESIDENTS MEN. **Instead of teaching her judo; I'm attempting to convince the daughter that *smiley faces* are the canary in the coal mine of our rapid descent into illiteracy, but, after way too long, I've figured out that smiley faces on FFL are used the way some lawyers use the term without prejudice;-). All paradises, all utopias are designed by who is not there, by the people who are not allowed in. -Toni Morrison From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 4:28:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] In space no one will hear you scream. Because you won't. Salyavin, as I read this tiny muscles around the base of each hair folicle tensed and the hair stood up. But that's ok because I now know that whenever I'm sitting, I'm also floating. Yay! BTW, you and Bob Price tie for Best Post of 2013 IMHO (-: From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] In space no one will hear you scream. Because you won't. 20 amazing facts about the human body Many of the most exciting discoveries in all fields of science are being played out in the human body * The Observer, Sunday 27 January 2013 * From DNA to the atoms inside us, the human body is a scientific marvel. Photograph: David Smith/Alamy 1 APPENDIX TO LIFE The appendix gets a bad press. It is usually treated as a body part that lost its function millions of years ago. All it seems to do is occasionally get infected and cause appendicitis. Yet recently it has been discovered that the appendix is very useful to the bacteria that help your digestive system function. They use it to get respite from the strain of the frenzied activity of the gut, somewhere to breed and help keep the gut's bacterial inhabitants topped up. So treat your appendix with respect. 2 SUPERSIZED MOLECULES Practically everything we experience is made up of molecules. These vary in size from simple pairs of atoms, like an oxygen molecule, to complex organic
Re: [FairfieldLife] Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up
MILAREPA once sent three of his devotees, each with a blanket, into the mountains of Tibet with the instruction to not return until they had mastered their inner heat. The monks found an ice field, laid out their blankets, and began to mediate; windstorms and angry blizzards pummeled the three adherents and covered them with ice and snow, but the three continued to mediate without interruption. Finally, after ten years had passed, one of the monks opened his eyes and glared at the monk beside him and angrily shouted: You're sitting on my blanket! The angry monk then closed his eyes and the three continued to mediate. More wind, snow and ice storms hit the mountain and froze the monks solid, but still they continued their practice without interruption. After another ten years had passed the second monk opened his eyes and shouted: No I'm not! The second angry monk then closed his eyes again, and the three continued to mediate peacefully. More blizzards and wind storms hit the mountain and covered the three monks with freezing rain and snow; the howling wind was deafening, and at times the three mediating monks were encased in solid blocks of ice, but they remained immoveable and continued to mediate uninterrupted. Finally, after another ten years had passed (making it thirty years since they had arrived), the third monk suddenly jumped up, grabbed his blanket, and ran down the mountain, back to the monastery where MILAREPA was waiting. MILAREPA asked the devotee: Why have you returned, have you mastered your inner heat? And the third monk answered: No master, I'm back because I got sick and tired of all the bickering and fighting! For OBBA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bydB3-k-qU From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:44:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up Just so this doesn't get buried inside a topic many people weren't reading, here it is with a new title, and under a new thread. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: What makes you think that this negatively charged tone is in THEM? It seems to me that a large number of people *project* such things ONTO the TM critics, because they're heavily attached to Maharishi and TM, and *their* buttons got pushed. They're experiencing emotions inside themselves that they perceive as negative, so they project the source of that perceived negativity onto the critic. To expand upon this, Share, here's what I saw happen in this thread about the fundraising for Vedaland. Based upon what Michael and Salyavin have said about this incident, it seems clear that the TM organization not only was guilty of selling shares in a venture they knew was not going to happen because Doug was dying, they did so *on long-term residence courses*, sending people to solicit partnerships/donations from people who were rounding, and thus had been instructed to not make any serious decisions while rounding. OK, that strikes me as a pretty big WTF moment. And so far, in my quick re-read of the thread, it seems that other than Michael, Salyavin and myself, no one from the still-loyal-to-TM camp has really commented *on the issue itself*. Buck came the closest. Most others have been playing one form or another of Kill the messenger, either suggesting that something is wrong with Michael or the other critics, or that something was wrong with their tone, that it was negative. Here's what I think. The negativity is in the Kill the messenger types. They heard something *that they didn't want to hear*. It caused cognitive dissonance in them. They knew that if they dealt with it directly and said what this news made them *feel* about the organization they've been part of for so long, and said it honestly, they'd be perceived by other TBs as negative. So they stayed as far away from the real issue as possible. Instead they projected the inner turmoil they were feeling about the issue onto the people who *were* talking about the issue, and tried to turn the thread into talking about *them* instead. Classic Kill the messenger, and classic cult. You seem to be full of advice today on how Michael or others could clean up their negatively charged tone. Well, here's some advice from me. Try not to project the button-pushed turmoil inside yourself onto other people, and lash out at them rather than dealing with what they said. It's not whether Michael is outraged over this issue. That's fairly obvious. The bigger question is, Why aren't you? How 'bout it, TM-supporters? Take this issue and discuss it *AS* issue, no personalities, and no attempts at well-poisoning and slander. Please explain how what the TM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…
This link will take you to the book: The Grammar of Painting and Engraving -Written in the 19th century by Charles Blanc, whose theories (particularly on color) were studied closely by Van Gogh, Gaugin and Seurat: http://archive.org/stream/grammarofpaintin00blaniala#page/n0/mode/2up From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 4:16:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie… Very nice. Paid off for you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Excellent post, Curtis - I grew up an admirer of comics - ie, the art, and wanted to draw - couldn't even draw a stick figure hardly - discovered Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, bought it, worked with it - about 3 or 4 months later the enclosed attachment came forth - it was the last thing I drew back in 1996. For whatever its worth, when I would spend an hour or so drawing according to the techniques she set forth, I would always go into that silent mind place she talks about (I forget her name for it) when I would come out of the drawing session and went back to verbal left brain functioning I would experience GC and UC big time for a couple hours at least - the more often I drew the more intense and obvious the GC/UC experiences became - dunno why I quit. The light was not great when I snapped the pic of my drawing and yep I was a big Star Trek fan From: curtisdeltablues To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: When I stopped believing my own lie…  It makes me wonder how much of education is just giving kids with a natural inclination a track to run on rather than educating everyone up to a certain level of competence in everything. What is interesting to me is how persistent these self limiting ideas about ourselves are. Some of it may have to do with our cultural focus on people who are amazing at certain things. It makes it all seem far from our reach. We need more exposure to the road from sucking at things maybe. A focus on the process rather than the outcome. But letting a kid go through the whole educational system without ever giving him or her a chance with some decent instruction seems like a set up to me now. I had no idea what I didn't know but needed to in order to draw. I have another book I am going into after this one that is really inspiring artistically that made me think of your life in Europe. Lessons in Classical Drawing:Essential Techniques from Inside the Atelier by Juliette Aristides (Great artist name, huh?!) It goes more deeply into the kind of perceptions necessary to appreciate and create fine art, but she is still geared to beginners. She uses many classic examples and it is inspiring me in a more ethereal way. Check out this intro video for her system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tYbd9DnuyA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: Excellent rap. I, too, missed the essential parts of education that can teach one how to draw, or that one can. The fact that I can use words to create art (or as close to it as I want to get) is directly due to a few teachers who conveyed their sense of word-magic to me, and taught me how to use them. I agree with you that a large part (up to 80%, the remaining 20% being what we call talent) in almost any artform reflects what people were taught, not what they are. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues wrote: I know, a little Man Bites Dog headline, huh? But since you are here anyway… I was lying to some little kids again. I mean not lying, lying but tossing some bullshit that all of a sudden I began to smell. I was in a Title One school (poorest kids in their county) teaching them to write a blues song to help them understand the difference between character traits and feelings, which for a first grader is at the top of their cognitive limits. (Feelings change in the story, but character traits persist to define how a character will behave in the story. Hopefully character traits can also change through education, or we are all kinda screwed, but you see the simple difference right?) I was drawing a picture web of ideas using characters from their story about a fox and a mouse and was drawing a really, really shitty fox. I mean worse than cave man on cave wall shitty. (No offense to our ancestors meant some of them drew better than I did.) I told the kids that as a musician I tend to pay more attention to my ears so I practice music but not drawing. All this is sort of true, but what was a stinking lie was the implication that somehow this preference defined my character trait as a musician guy who
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Obba, Any man able to fog a mirror would know only a city as great as Manhattan could contain a woman of your qualities; TB is still upset about getting caught mood making while he was doing PUJA, if he had any class, he'd offer to buy you a new pair of shoes: http://pinterest.com/priscill/outrageous-shoes/ “Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind, And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.” -A Midsummer Night's Dream. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX2wybAIAHU From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 4:41:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while Lipstick does not remove a dick. Unless the bitch licks with a strap on? (last I read, Barry appears to still be a man, regardless the shade he glamors his lips with.) LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: If he had the lipstick on, wouldn't the roles be reversed, wrt the dog? I dunno -- Once you threw cross dressing and/or gender bending into the mix, it became weirder than a david lynch movie. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Turq, In a sexy way, I thought you were pretty smart, cute, etc. Now, it is like I caught you putting lipstick on and fucking the dog. hahaha. Ex-Patiot http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/why-the-ex-patriot-act-is-a-creepy-law/257368/ Number two: I do not live in Fairfield. Never have, never will. Number three: The Jobs or employers you mentioned. I would never apply for, and if I was hired, it would be from headhunters begging me to come and work for their clients. :) Social security will not exist by the time I get to have it. Dear, you could send more private emails to me and we can share pictures, then you won't say nothin. LOL Peace handsome -Obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Barry, I mean, Turq. No one cyberstalks on FFL. It is fair exchange of knowledge and ignorance. Knowledge, by which you ignore and play accusation games. Judy is not a cyberstalker. You would fall in a minor sort of that category by trying to claim any statements on this board are attempting to derail a person's cyber history, for future employer's eyes. hahaha. Pointing fingers all day long, month after month, year after year, yawn, would bore any employer. Any employer, who would base hiring on any of these posts would be someone, no one should work for! LOL. What grant department did they earn their business dollars LOL. Any entrepreneur who develops their own company without outside governmental aid, would see right past all the bullshit. Any others, are not worthy the tax dollar wasted supporting their authority? lol. I understand now why you live in Fairfield. You would never be able to survive in the real world. In recent studies, 80% of all employers surveyed said that they perform Internet background searches on all potential employees, examining their posts on Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter, etc. Many government jobs *require* that such a search be performed. Turq, one day there may be a requirement, to collect your social security, you have to be in living within the 50 US States, if you post on the internet on forums, in case we are all funding terrorists living abroad as ex patriots :) Just saying, dear. Love you. OXO Unlike you, I will never need to rely on American Social Security. Nor, hopefully, ever need to live in your third world bankrupt nation again. :-) BTW, the word is expatriate, not ex patriot. I have never been a patriot, and would sooner die than be considered one. If I had to choose between betraying my friend or my country, I hope I'd have the guts to betray my country. - E.M. Forster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. I am not so sure about that. I searched for the word victim and victimized in Barry's posts to see how he applied the word to himself, and he does not seem to have used the word in reference to himself. There were some 400+ references to the word 'victim' and some 41 for
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ciFTP_KRy4 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:42:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Em - yes I got it after Alex's hilarious post. Just spending time with my family, all mundane tasks here seem to involve so much drama that you don't have time for cyber dramas :-) - not to mention all my family drama. Will send more pictures later. To be honest, Ravi, I admit to having read some of your posts from this vacation, and I have wanted before to remark that I feel it's done you a world of good. Whether it is a result of being with your family, or having touched base with India again, or just the passage of time, your posts during this pilgrimage have been the most grounded of the entire time I've been exposed to you on the Internet. May this trend continue. Good on you, guy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers)
emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: snip Hey now, I think Barry is making a change . ***BP: Famous bridges for sale: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnGsBvFQSI PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTnEyRLMvqk PPS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXQGLjBYLUU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ciFTP_KRy4 From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:42:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote: Dear Em - yes I got it after Alex's hilarious post. Just spending time with my family, all mundane tasks here seem to involve so much drama that you don't have time for cyber dramas :-) - not to mention all my family drama. Will send more pictures later. To be honest, Ravi, I admit to having read some of your posts from this vacation, and I have wanted before to remark that I feel it's done you a world of good. Whether it is a result of being with your family, or having touched base with India again, or just the passage of time, your posts during this pilgrimage have been the most grounded of the entire time I've been exposed to you on the Internet. May this trend continue. Good on you, guy. Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Nature Of Obsession
turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com snip They never learn that when someone calls them obsessive, the way to rebut or disprove this is NOT to demonstrate exactly how obsessed they are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJpPsUEnRwY
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jubilee today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yyofgq2l30 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 7:38:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Jubilee today. Say, Happy Birthday, Obba. :) -obba
Re: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH97lImrr0Q From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:59:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: WTF?LOL(to channel the traveling RC - same initials as RC - this must be a sign). Dear Em - traveling RC here - one hell of a channeling :-) but what do you mean by same initials as RC? - what am I missing? From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) Barry, You must know how hurtful is was for you to neglect to include me on your list, you of all people know how hard I've worked to be close to you; it was a bit of a challenge for me, but I gave it shot, and it appears 89% of my posts have been about you (unfortunately, I tried the same search with Robin and hit 96%); in any event, with your help, I'm going to work harder in 2013 to be the kind of person you think I am. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lafu642uq8Q From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 2:42:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: I can remember when you [Judy] used to work out what time Barry made his first post of the day, you'd then triumphantly post this fact as though it proved some point. Dead creepy behaviour, kind of worrying you don't have the self-awareness to realise it. Maybe Carol shouldn't take your analyses at face value? Hmmm...besides the tracking of what time I get up in the morning, what *else* might indicate that Judy is a...uh...bit of a cyberstalker? Let's see... Oh, I've got it. In her 7.7 years on Fairfield Life, Judy has made around 22,600 posts, an average of over eight posts a day. Of those posts, the number that contain either Barry OR Turq OR TurquoiseB, meaning that she was either talking about me or replying to something I posted or replying to something that someone else posted about me was 7,626 posts. That means that she's spent 33.74% of her entire history of posts on FFL obsessing about me. Nope...certainly no evidence of stalking there, eh? :-) Speaking of Fun With Statistics :-), here are some about a few of Judy's trainees in her ongoing course, called How To Become An Obsessed Cyberstalker. So far, Jim (doctordumbass) is winning, but Ann is a close second. The first number is the total number of posts they've made to FFL, at least under their current ID. The second is the number of those posts that contain Barry OR Turq OR TurquoiseB. The third number is the percentage of their overall posts that seem a tad...uh...obsessed (or at the very least overfocused) on Barry, just as their trainer intended them to be: Jim -- 330 posts / 181 mention me -- 54.8% Ann -- 1172 posts / 586 mention me -- 50% Ravi -- 2276 posts / 907 mention me -- 39.8% Emily -- 1805 posts / 683 mention me -- 37.8% Raunchy -- 3847 posts / 909 mention me -- 23.6%
Re: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers)
Barry, You must know how hurtful is was for you to neglect to include me on your list, you of all people know how hard I've worked to be close to you; it was a bit of a challenge for me, but I gave it shot, and it appears 89% of my posts have been about you (unfortunately, I tried the same search with Robin and hit 96%); in any event, with your help, I'm going to work harder in 2013 to be the kind of person you think I am. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lafu642uq8Q From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 2:42:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Cyberstalker Trainees (Turq's Occult Theory Of What Motivates Cyberstalkers) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: I can remember when you [Judy] used to work out what time Barry made his first post of the day, you'd then triumphantly post this fact as though it proved some point. Dead creepy behaviour, kind of worrying you don't have the self-awareness to realise it. Maybe Carol shouldn't take your analyses at face value? Hmmm...besides the tracking of what time I get up in the morning, what *else* might indicate that Judy is a...uh...bit of a cyberstalker? Let's see... Oh, I've got it. In her 7.7 years on Fairfield Life, Judy has made around 22,600 posts, an average of over eight posts a day. Of those posts, the number that contain either Barry OR Turq OR TurquoiseB, meaning that she was either talking about me or replying to something I posted or replying to something that someone else posted about me was 7,626 posts. That means that she's spent 33.74% of her entire history of posts on FFL obsessing about me. Nope...certainly no evidence of stalking there, eh? :-) Speaking of Fun With Statistics :-), here are some about a few of Judy's trainees in her ongoing course, called How To Become An Obsessed Cyberstalker. So far, Jim (doctordumbass) is winning, but Ann is a close second. The first number is the total number of posts they've made to FFL, at least under their current ID. The second is the number of those posts that contain Barry OR Turq OR TurquoiseB. The third number is the percentage of their overall posts that seem a tad...uh...obsessed (or at the very least overfocused) on Barry, just as their trainer intended them to be: Jim -- 330 posts / 181 mention me -- 54.8% Ann -- 1172 posts / 586 mention me -- 50% Ravi -- 2276 posts / 907 mention me -- 39.8% Emily -- 1805 posts / 683 mention me -- 37.8% Raunchy -- 3847 posts / 909 mention me -- 23.6%
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mind-To-Mind vs. Personality-To-Personality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0j2dVuhr6s From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 5:08:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Mind-To-Mind vs. Personality-To-Personality Turq, I think your analysis is a good starting point but would have to be filled out a bit to reflect the richness of writing styles that one encounters on FFL. I'm thinking a 3x3 grid. Predominant content: ideas, people, events. Predominant style: Mental, emotional, somatic. Even such a schematic does not do justice to the writing of many posters here. And just to throw another ingredient in the stew, I do think there is a general difference between men and women both in style and content. Lastly, if we were to do a little experiment, all write anonymously on the same topic, leaving out any of our go to phrases like Richard's Go figure and LOL, I bet many of us could identify each other's writing. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Mind-To-Mind vs. Personality-To-Personality OK, now here's a potentially interesting topic for discussion. Or, at least I think it might be onewhich is several people on this forum's cue to click Next now. :-) What triggered this rap was noticing that some on this forum seem to repeatedly try to turn the discussions between themselves and other posters into Personality-To-Personality discussions. Such people seem to thrive on finding out as much as possible about the other people's lives and families and backstories and presentstories as possible, and basically interacting on a very personal and thus personality-driven level, as if they would if they met face-to-face. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just that I'm comparing and contrasting this approach to communication on the Net -- which is, after all, a remarkably NON-face-to-face medium -- to other approaches I've seen on other Net forums, and occasionally on this one. That latter approach is, as I see it, more based in Mind-To-Mind than it is Personality-To-Personality. Those who pursue this latter approach seem to relate to others almost as if they're really communicating Mind-To-Mind, on the *level* of Mind and Ideas, without all of that Personality-To-Personality shit getting in the way. NOT that either approach is better than the other, or superior to any other. I just noticed the different approaches tonight, that's all. Carry on...it's just a rap...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNcjvlKufHg From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 10:19:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Let's, however, note that Barry had no objection to Lord Knows or Bill and Brahmi barging in and going after Robin. In fact, Barry, you loved it. Please document this claim. Ann has done exactly this. Will Barry admit it? Don't be ridiculous. I just love assigning homework to obsessives. It keeps them busy for hours, and then they feel so triumphant afterwards, as if the original idea was theirs. Thanks for jumping through hoops, girls. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuhLtH_Jg1U From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2013 2:21:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Let's, however, note that Barry had no objection to Lord Knows or Bill and Brahmi barging in and going after Robin. In fact, Barry, you loved it. Please document this claim. Ann has done exactly this. Will Barry admit it? Don't be ridiculous. I just love assigning homework to obsessives. It keeps them busy for hours, and then they feel so triumphant afterwards, as if the original idea was theirs. Thanks for jumping through hoops, girls. :-) Just for fun, and as an excuse to order a second cup of really *excellent* coffee here at a cafe I hadn't tried before, I'm going to explain the nature of the game to these gals, knowing in advance that they won't hear a word of the explanation, and that they'll fall for it again the next time I run it. Knowing that their mindset (Judy's originally, and Ann's because she's trying to emulate Judy) is to either 1) prove one of their perceived opponents WRONG, 2) prove themselves RIGHT, or 3) get the opponent to actually APOLOGIZE, what you do is assign them a task. Hopefully the task will involve digging into the past, hopefully for quite some time (so that they feel they've done their due diligence), at which point they trot out their research, hoping for the outcome they were looking for -- a win. And then nothing happens. The only people they impress are those who think the same way they do, in terms of opponents and wins. They never notice that they've been assigned yet another make work project, and leapt upon it like salivating dogs. :-) The thing is, I had *no earthly idea* whether I'd interacted with Lord Knows the way Ann said I had, and for a very simple reason -- nothing about Robin sticks in my memory, because nothing about him is interesting enough enough *to* stick in my memory. But I figured Ann wouldn't be able to resist, so I assigned her a task that she would believe that -- if she completed it -- she'd win. So she wasted a bunch of time trying to win, while I watched a couple of good TV series with my housemates. I leave it up to you to decide who won in this scenario, or whether winning is even possible. Both of the TV shows were finds I discovered on a UK list of best TV of 2012. These shows have not (to my knowledge) been aired in the US, although they might someday, so I'll tell you about them just in case they are. The first was an episode of a series called Accused. As I understand it (having seen no other episodes but the one I watched), it's...uh...non-episodic, in that there are no continuing characters or plotlines. Each week's episode is standalone. The one that got flagged as among the best of the year got that honor because it starred Sean Bean (from LotR and Game Of Thrones) *as a transvestite*. The reviewer called his performance -- dressed in complete drag, and looking remarkably like...uh...a man dressed in drag, whom no one on earth would ever mistake for a woman -- a career best. She was right. The second was a mini-series (two 90-minute episodes) called Restless. What drew me to it was the cast, including actors of the quality of Hayley Atwell, Rufus Sewell, Michelle Dockery, Michael Gambon, and (the clincher for me) Charlotte Rampling. It turned out to be a well-written, tightly-crafted spy drama set both in modern time and in flashbacks to the WWII era. Charlotte Rampling plays the spy in modern times, having to explain to her daughter (Dockery) that back during the war she worked as a spy, and that people from that era were now trying to find and kill her. This leads to flashbacks of that era, with the young spy being played by Hayley Atwell. This sorta thing can be really lame and pedestrian in the wrong hands, but Restless kinda clicked for me on all levels. There. That's how I spent my day yesterday. Doesn't that sound more productive than diving into the past digging through old posts made to a tiny Internet forum that almost no one reads trying to get someone and win something that can never be won? :-) Priorities. For the cyberstalker/obsessive mentality, *nothing* is more important than going for the win. For others, watching TV is much more fun. Different strokes for different folks. :-)
[FairfieldLife] I love the man from Holland (was Happy Christmas FFL)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leohcvmf8kM Barry, Please ignore these ungrateful wretches, I'm not like them; I know how much love and effort you've put into our edification this past year, and I love you for it; I know how much you've sacrificed to make us better human beings, and I'm ashamed how ungrateful they are. I know how many other things you could be doing with your time; watching TV, walking the dogs, writing manuals, and visiting Beavis and Butthead; not to mention spending more quality time with Maya and your modern family. I know what its like to give till you have no more to give and the ingrates you're trying to help just don't get it (makes you wonder about this whole bodhisattva thing); they don't understand how hard it is to be as beautiful as you are, to be as good a person as you are; I know you know this, you show it to me everyday, and I would never have figured it out without your help. You see Barry, I really have fallen in love with you, not that platonic love I used to feel for Curtis, no, not that tepid tea, the real stuff, with all its messiness. And I don't know what I'd do if you gave up on us and stayed with Beavis and Butthead; frankly (please don't think this sounds like stalking), if you left I would have to move to Holland, and do whatever was in my power to find you, and serve you in any small way I could; and if you went all Roshi on me, and hit me with a stick or called the police, I would know it was just a test and your way of teaching me the real meaning of love. I know I have a lot to learn from you, but from what I feel today, on the day after Boxing Day 2012, I know I've made an incredible start, and I could not have done it without you. If only the others could see and understand what I've found on this mountain of my love for you; I know what they say about you is not true, your post was not Barry's Christmas enemies list; I know it's a Christmas *love and affection* list, like a wallop from the great cane of the Roshi of Ryoan-ji; producing welts of love and affection as deep as the resting place of the Titanic. Please stay Barry; Beavis and Butthead don't deserve you as much as we do; please give us another chance, and please ignore what they say about your message view; that it's shaped like the derriere of that fine young lady who begged you to message her behind; I know its not true that she was a lap dancer and you've likely been banned from the Yum Yum for stiffing (sorry, I know you could never stiff anybody) the dancers for their gratuities. I don't think what they say about you is true; that you have no life beyond your manuals, pirated TV, and FFL (I also don't believe its true that Maya is an imaginary friend, and her name is one of your more inspired unintended ironies---I know Maya exists!). I also don't believe them when they cruelly say you are a compulsive name dropper who never met one of Tim Leary's ex-wives. I'm sure the angels shed a tear every time that Judy woman hurts your feelings; she's a piece of work and I for one want nothing else to do with her; I love you Barry. Please ignore Obba; she's doesn't know how to speak to a real man like you. And please ignore Emily; she doesn't deserve the hand of loving kindness you've extended to her (the fact she would give some old Jack Russell a home says everything you need to know about her). And Ann, what can I say about her, she's obviously one of these women that has far too much education for her own good, and lives by that old maxim the more I know about Barry, the more I love my horses. I just can't believe how cruel these women are to you, with everything you've done for them; I'm hoping that the tiny point of light that I am can somehow make up for them, and convince you to stay; I think its cruel for them to say that when you go through this vale of tears FFL will pass before your eyes; I have no doubt there is a special place in the after life for you, and these women are all going to hell if they don't straighten up and begin to understand what you're trying to do for them. I only have one favor to ask, I know it's a lot to ask with the way you've been treated around here lately, but would it be at all possible to include me on Bucks list; I really do not want to be associated with that Judy woman and all the heart ache she's brought you. I know it's a lot to ask, but please give it some serious consideration; with your help, I've changed. Happy New Year, please don't give up on us, you've helped me to get real and get honest with myself; all my journey and suffering could never have gotten me anywhere near where you've taken me in the last 18 months; thank you, I love you. Your friend, Robin PS: Would you consider collaborating on a film review with Bob; if so, how about Its a Wonderful Life or The Hour; I don't think he's intelligent enough to understand to the beauty of Firefly? PPS: In case Bob tries to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X9NFknjTRE From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:30:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL Bathtubs and sesame oil..I vaguely remember...bubbles and bathtubs, hmmm, I never sent pictures to you of that! Alright, is this a hint that someone shared those pics? Spitting...blowing bubbles? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Also, I've never made any reference to his wife and moisture, or said I was in my thirties (The Wife is in her thirties); I'm in my sixties, and the best description of me, on this forum, was Obba's where she mentioned something about bathtubs and spitting out sesame seed oil. My theory on Doctor Dumbass is that he's been channeling Turqb so much lately we may have to give Max a call, and get a quote for an online exorcism; if we're too cheap for that, we always have emptybill. http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12101 From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:48:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: No, no Bob, this is a distinction you made to me, awhile back, regarding your absolute preference for the *moistness* of a younger woman - someone thirty-ish, was I believe your cut off point. You weren't talking about cake, you were talking about *pussy*. Remember? FWIW, the only post from Bob I can find in the archives that contains the string moist was one in which he attributed a liking for moist young women to Barry. As far as I can tell, Bob never expressed a preference for same himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I've never thought of Judy as a piece of cake; if you're asking me if I admire her, absolutely (I admire everyone with talent). Are roses any less beautiful when they have fully bloomed; I guess it depends on your taste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbMYzdjuBs From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:23:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. The Wife sends her best, and my family wishes you a very Happy Christmas and fantabulous 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWbcosJdtU From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL BOB!!! What a treat you've brought us (including a glimpse of your charming self, even if it's just a quickie). Thank you so much for the video. I won't have time to watch the whole thing until after Christmas (I'm getting ready to go out of town tomorrow), but I took a look at the first few minutes, and I know I'm going to enjoy it a lot. Most cordial wishes to you and The Wife for a superb holiday. You sure have started ours out with a bang.   Â   Â Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
Also, I've never made any reference to his wife and moisture, or said I was in my thirties (The Wife is in her thirties); I'm in my sixties, and the best description of me, on this forum, was Obba's where she mentioned something about bathtubs and spitting out sesame seed oil. My theory on Doctor Dumbass is that he's been channeling Turqb so much lately we may have to give Max a call, and get a quote for an online exorcism; if we're too cheap for that, we always have emptybill. http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12101 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:48:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: No, no Bob, this is a distinction you made to me, awhile back, regarding your absolute preference for the *moistness* of a younger woman - someone thirty-ish, was I believe your cut off point. You weren't talking about cake, you were talking about *pussy*. Remember? FWIW, the only post from Bob I can find in the archives that contains the string moist was one in which he attributed a liking for moist young women to Barry. As far as I can tell, Bob never expressed a preference for same himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I've never thought of Judy as a piece of cake; if you're asking me if I admire her, absolutely (I admire everyone with talent). Are roses any less beautiful when they have fully bloomed; I guess it depends on your taste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbMYzdjuBs From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:23:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. The Wife sends her best, and my family wishes you a very Happy Christmas and fantabulous 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWbcosJdtU From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL BOB!!! What a treat you've brought us (including a glimpse of your charming self, even if it's just a quickie). Thank you so much for the video. I won't have time to watch the whole thing until after Christmas (I'm getting ready to go out of town tomorrow), but I took a look at the first few minutes, and I know I'm going to enjoy it a lot. Most cordial wishes to you and The Wife for a superb holiday. You sure have started ours out with a bang.   Â Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas
Steve, I enjoyed your story; I was reminded of the schism that developed between Jung and Freud where a similar phenomenon played a part. As you may know, early in their relationship, Freud saw Jung as his heir apparent, but could not accept Jung's theories on the collective unconscious. In Jung's biography Memoires, Dreams, and Reflections and the film A Dangerous Method, there are references to an incident in Freud's study, during an argument they were having about whether consciousness existed beyond the physical plane, when a loud shot came from Freud's bookcase as if the bookcase was about to split in two. Jung looked at Freud as if to say: you see, and not missing a beat Freud said it was a completely natural phenomenon for wood to do that. I know intellectually Freud was right; when I was in the timber business I shipped kiln-dried wood from Oregon to Jeddah via Panama, and the fluctuation of the moist (ure) content (moving from temperate to tropic to desert climates) could cause some fairly severe checking and cracks in the wood; that said, Jung's theories, and his insights, explain more to me about the inner life I've experienced, in different waking, dreaming, meditative, and psychedelic states, than Freud’s more scientific explanation does. I say that as an agnostic. http://adangerousmethod-themovie.com/ From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:41:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Hey Bob, Guess I was trying to be too clever in my reply. What I was trying to say, is that I could stand a steady diet of posting from you. Re: Mountains. What a hassle to be carrying around an extra 25 pounds. Even if I could lose 10, it would help out. Strange occurrence I'll share: This morning the whole family was up early to open presents so we could get out the enjoy the newly fallen snow. At one point, I tried to dim some of the lights, but they wouldn't dim and kept flickering. I kept trying and they kept flickering. I thought, oh, another repair. Later in the afternoon, I mentioned it to my sister when she was getting ready to go back to N.M., and she said it might have been my mom and dad saying hello. She mentioned in a light-hearted, joking fashion. That did not occur to me, and I still don't see it. But it was interesting, since the lights were working great when we got back for lunch. Anyway, thinking of you with your tribe, brought this to mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: Steve, A treat to hear from you; I will always cherish your comment that my posts were like foie gras; something to look forward to, but not every day (or something like that). I also remember you create employment when Hermes smiles in your direction. I wish you, your family, and your business, a Merry Christmas and a very, very prosperous New Year. Enjoy the mountains: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFHujvkacNY From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 1:14:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Thanks Bob, We're here in Colorado right now, and my sister brought along her little Dachshund, Acorn, so it's sort of letting everyone focus on this cutie. Oh, and Bob, praise me, or scold me, but just keep talking to me every once in a while.  Nice to have you back for at least a visit. (and hopefully more) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Steve, I was sorry to hear about Buttons, if something happened to my Jack Russell (Jackie Chan), the world would be a much darker place; like the bumper sticker says: I'm trying to be the person my dog thinks I am. Jackie suggested I send you this link, when he's feeling down he likes to watch Orson Wells doing magic tricks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ajM3tVzoU From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:37:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Yeah too many posts last week and I had to have my 18 year old cat put to sleep - I was very attached to her - so I been kinda quiet since then. From http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330439 where Steve wrote: Well, my wife just called. Our black and white long hair kitty, Buttons, has cancer is going to have to be put down. The daughter just went upstairs crying. I'll likely start crying as soon as I see my wife. We had Buttons for about 15 years. Dear Michael Steve, Please accept my sincerest condolences on the loss of a family member. I'm gently
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
Dear Doctor Dumbass, A belated Happy Christmas. I'm in the middle of a tribal gathering so I may be a bit slow in responding fully to your inquiry; among other activities, I'm presently attempting to keep my Jack Russell from burying my favorite gift from a Santa in the garden (VEGAN COOKING FOR CARNIVORES-over 125 recipes so tasty you won't miss the meat). The question of moisture and women (and cake for that matter) is an important one, and I believe it deserves a considered response; I want to give it my all, so please be patient, I'll get back to you. In the meantime, I don't remember communicating with a Doctor Dumbass during my last visit; can you help me out? From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:27:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL No, no Bob, this is a distinction you made to me, awhile back, regarding your absolute preference for the *moistness* of a younger woman - someone thirty-ish, was I believe your cut off point. You weren't talking about cake, you were talking about *pussy*. Remember? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I've never thought of Judy as a piece of cake; if you're asking me if I admire her, absolutely (I admire everyone with talent). Are roses any less beautiful when they have fully bloomed; I guess it depends on your taste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbMYzdjuBs From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:23:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. The Wife sends her best, and my family wishes you a very Happy Christmas and fantabulous 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWbcosJdtU From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL BOB!!! What a treat you've brought us (including a glimpse of your charming self, even if it's just a quickie). Thank you so much for the video. I won't have time to watch the whole thing until after Christmas (I'm getting ready to go out of town tomorrow), but I took a look at the first few minutes, and I know I'm going to enjoy it a lot. Most cordial wishes to you and The Wife for a superb holiday. You sure have started ours out with a bang.   Â Â
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Obba, The Wife says no problem, but wanted to warn you to get the gratuity up front. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUC9hygkhMEfeature=endscreen From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 4:10:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL Oh dear Bob, How well you know me. You hit home with this gift. Just he was missing his Harley and Christian Church banner and red home! Engelbert reminds me of England and Humperdinck reminds me of...humping on a dinky? Ravi enticed you with his beautiful welcoming me back and all I can say, you are like Santa and please ask your wife if it is okay that I sit on your lap? I prefer that the wife is okay with it first, because she is who controls who is in the dog house or not for the winter. Mrs. Bob, please may I sit in your presence and ask Santa for a wish? I wish to be enlightened and have one man in my life and heart and the rest all in my head? Thank you for sharing, I love that song! Ravi, you are not jealous are you? You are the first. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Obba, As I hope you know, you are one of my favorite posters on FFL; other than me, you're likely the only person who read all my Rowing to Doha series and encouraged me to continue. How could I ever forget that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFrpHyE5Rp8 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:28:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL My narcissistic self is waiting for Bob to acknowledge me. Didn't I send you enough nudes to make you happy? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Thank you dear Bob - even though you titillated my narcissistic cells a little bit I don't know why I still feel dissatisfied. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and the family !!! P.S. And where's the gift for our charming, delightful, darling Obba? On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: ** Raja Ravi, After Tim Leary, Orson Wells, and Robin, you continue to be my favorite performance artist. Remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8zoB8nAIWo From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:18:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL Welcome to FFL dear Obba, I don't think Bob is a real person - he, like Robin said, is Santa, now with email access. If he is indeed a real person he better meet me when I'm in the Bay area mid-January. On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 10:59 AM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Happy Christmas all you guys and gals! Is this Bob I see as I troll FFL? Welcome Bob or is that bOB? Happy giggles of happiness to you all! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Bob - welcome back to FFL !!! Excellent choice of video - one for Raja Ravi that is :-) - don't have time to watch the rest - surely later or read Robin's comments. Love, Ravi On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: ** Happy Christmas FFL For TURQB http://www.spike.com/video-clips/ifl7g8/snl-christopher-walken For EMILY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEq0NNH1AM For SEVENTHRAY27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVGMsMws9Y For LORDKNOWS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m60s70qX-xw For CM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj5Egv0GYG4feature=endscreen For RAUNCHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbvtB_0pKk For RAJA RAVI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f-K-XnHi9I For EMPTYBILL: http://www.archive.org/stream/interpersonaldia00learrich#page/n0/mode/2up For AUTHFRIEND: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMa38CZCSU For SHARE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWwgwytdzk For LG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP15EEaEQrU For ANN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_7l87prmI For BUCK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZcHLpjiEdw For MASKEDZEBRA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI HAPPY CHRISTMAS FFL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwHyuraau4Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_WSQpewNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j_ZcdxAAkc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2iAkqtylY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d11s0w9UNlg http://www.youtube.com/watch
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Steve, A treat to hear from you; I will always cherish your comment that my posts were like foie gras; something to look forward to, but not every day (or something like that). I also remember you create employment when Hermes smiles in your direction. I wish you, your family, and your business, a Merry Christmas and a very, very prosperous New Year. Enjoy the mountains: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFHujvkacNY From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 1:14:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas Thanks Bob, We're here in Colorado right now, and my sister brought along her little Dachshund, Acorn, so it's sort of letting everyone focus on this cutie. Oh, and Bob, praise me, or scold me, but just keep talking to me every once in a while. Nice to have you back for at least a visit. (and hopefully more) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Steve, I was sorry to hear about Buttons, if something happened to my Jack Russell (Jackie Chan), the world would be a much darker place; like the bumper sticker says: I'm trying to be the person my dog thinks I am. Jackie suggested I send you this link, when he's feeling down he likes to watch Orson Wells doing magic tricks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ajM3tVzoU From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:37:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Yeah too many posts last week and I had to have my 18 year old cat put to sleep - I was very attached to her - so I been kinda quiet since then. From http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330439 where Steve wrote: Well, my wife just called. Our black and white long hair kitty, Buttons, has cancer is going to have to be put down. The daughter just went upstairs crying. I'll likely start crying as soon as I see my wife. We had Buttons for about 15 years. Dear Michael Steve, Please accept my sincerest condolences on the loss of a family member. I'm gently weeping as I write this because I feel your loss. I'm an animal lover also...cats are my choice...and have been through losses throughout the years, however not having to have a loved one euthanized as yet. The first cat I ever owned (acquired by me and my ex...I kept the cat after the divorce) died while I was away for my father's funeral. The caretakers left me a note to call them as soon as I got back to my home, and I still had plenty of leftover tears to shed. I lost another one when he just didn't show back up at the end of a day out exploring...his name was Scamp because that's exactly what he was. And I found out about my third loss when I checked in with my caretaker while at MERU in Vlodrop who broke the news to me. I cried for the first and third, and spent many hours looking for the second before finally giving up. Now I have four under my care, the oldest being probably between 10-11 years old (I adopted her when she showed up at my doorstep pregnant). If I ever *do* have to make the decision to have one euthanized I suppose I'll react as both of you have reacted with discomfort, tears, self-doubt, etc. but I hope that I handle it with the love and grace that both of you have shown. And I am earmarking the responses from others here on FFL to read again because I know that they will bring me the same comfort that they must have brought to both of you. The best to you and your families, and kudos to everyone else. snip Â
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Ann, Thank you for your thoughtful gesture: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. -Matthew 5:9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkGH8YtIbic From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:42:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: No, no Bob, this is a distinction you made to me, awhile back, regarding your absolute preference for the *moistness* of a younger woman - someone thirty-ish, was I believe your cut off point. You weren't talking about cake, you were talking about *pussy*. Remember? Wha-ho, what is this? Some old historical remnant being brought forth? Maybe we should let the subject of moistness just drop seeing as whatever anyone was talking about was at least 11 months ago. Whadya say Doc? It's almost Christmas. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I've never thought of Judy as a piece of cake; if you're asking me if I admire her, absolutely (I admire everyone with talent). Are roses any less beautiful when they have fully bloomed; I guess it depends on your taste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbMYzdjuBs From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:23:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. The Wife sends her best, and my family wishes you a very Happy Christmas and fantabulous 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWbcosJdtU From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL BOB!!! What a treat you've brought us (including a glimpse of your charming self, even if it's just a quickie). Thank you so much for the video. I won't have time to watch the whole thing until after Christmas (I'm getting ready to go out of town tomorrow), but I took a look at the first few minutes, and I know I'm going to enjoy it a lot. Most cordial wishes to you and The Wife for a superb holiday. You sure have started ours out with a bang.   Â Â
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Robin, Thank you for your warm response, I'm always impressed by the way you fearlessly share your experience and insight, despite the envy and resentment directed your way by some; if I was limited to one word to describe you, I would say you're *original* (a found gift IMHO). Like Ravi, and many others on FFL, those who say we must be your followers, if we think of you as a friend, amuse me; in 40+ years of commercial traveling, I've met few people who are selling their wares less than you are. Merry Christmas Masked Zebra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZQYg0vjLxE From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 5:58:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen wrote: What a brilliant conversation here. Nothing better. Bob Price has demonstrated the knowledge of the character and mind of our resident editor. I think the Dove should descend. Let us have a discussion which will wallow in agreement: This video was superb. I think Authfriend just received the highest compliment. Jesus Christ. Did you just borrow the Pope's Chair of Infallibility of something? Steve: Bob Price has a video for you for Christmas too. You should see it. It's very good, I think. Merry Christmas to you. No, no ex cathedra here; just plain common sense. Did you actually listen to the conversation here, Steve? I need to know. It was just an intuitive judgment based upon having enjoyed every word of that conversation. But believe me: have a look at Santa's video. And Merry Christmas, Steve. The one-liner temptation, it usually is funny on one level, but ironically insensitive on every other level. That's me being defensive, Steve. Share loves you, this the Veda tells me so. Have some pity on Canada, please: we are without hockey right now and some of us are over-compensating. Don't select what you think you can say something to, Steve; take in everything, and then when you want to get a good line off you can hold it all inside of you; that way, you will have something a little more in your song. We love you anyhow. Truth for me, Stevie, is a moment-to-moment thing. If you really meant that I misinterpreted Santa's present to authfriend, give us your interpretation. Reality is the target. That's what we're all trying to hit. Whether we know it or not. Get into the guts of it all, Steve. Not one fingernail. Love to you and your family at Christmas. Robin
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(Should read) Robin, Thank you for your warm response, I'm always impressed by the way you fearlessly share your experience and insight, despite the envy and resentment directed your way by some; if I was limited to one word to describe you, I would say you're *original* (a found gift IMHO). Like Ravi, and many others on FFL, I'm amused by those who say we must be your followers, if we think of you as a friend; in 40+ years of commercial traveling, I've met few people who are selling their wares less than you are. Merry Christmas Masked Zebra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZQYg0vjLxE From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 5:58:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen wrote: What a brilliant conversation here. Nothing better. Bob Price has demonstrated the knowledge of the character and mind of our resident editor. I think the Dove should descend. Let us have a discussion which will wallow in agreement: This video was superb. I think Authfriend just received the highest compliment. Jesus Christ. Did you just borrow the Pope's Chair of Infallibility of something? Steve: Bob Price has a video for you for Christmas too. You should see it. It's very good, I think. Merry Christmas to you. No, no ex cathedra here; just plain common sense. Did you actually listen to the conversation here, Steve? I need to know. It was just an intuitive judgment based upon having enjoyed every word of that conversation. But believe me: have a look at Santa's video. And Merry Christmas, Steve. The one-liner temptation, it usually is funny on one level, but ironically insensitive on every other level. That's me being defensive, Steve. Share loves you, this the Veda tells me so. Have some pity on Canada, please: we are without hockey right now and some of us are over-compensating. Don't select what you think you can say something to, Steve; take in everything, and then when you want to get a good line off you can hold it all inside of you; that way, you will have something a little more in your song. We love you anyhow. Truth for me, Stevie, is a moment-to-moment thing. If you really meant that I misinterpreted Santa's present to authfriend, give us your interpretation. Reality is the target. That's what we're all trying to hit. Whether we know it or not. Get into the guts of it all, Steve. Not one fingernail. Love to you and your family at Christmas. Robin
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Emily, Reading your posts over the past year has been a pleasure; if, as I suspect, the posters on FFL are characters in a novel (conflict being everything), and if Forster was right that the ability to *surprise* is what makes *round* characters different from flat ones; I nominate you as the roundest character on FFL for 2012;-). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th1kQER770M Good luck with your costume shopping, and the next phase it promises; my favorite consumers are the Emiratis who dispense with the ritual and ceremony, and get right to the point of it all at the Dubai Shopping Festival; I particularly like their logo of a nuclear family suspended in a shopping bag. http://www.dubaievents.ae/en/festival/festivals/dubai-shopping-festival From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:35:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Christmas FFL Dear Bob, so nice to hear from you and thank you for the great song. I wish the most wonderful days to you and your family - this Christmas and all days. I am off on my daily dog walk - my older daughter has decided to go with me...gotta keep Mom from wandering too far from home. And, she wants a massage and some of that high-end facial cleanser for Christmas, the kind that can only be purchased from the mall of the 1%, so off we will go. It's unfortunate I have nothing appropriate to wear on the shopping expedition, but I'll do what I can. It *is* time to buy clothes and get ready for the next phase Best regards, Emily From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Happy Christmas FFL Happy Christmas FFL For TURQB http://www.spike.com/video-clips/ifl7g8/snl-christopher-walken For EMILY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEq0NNH1AM For SEVENTHRAY27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVGMsMws9Y For LORDKNOWS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m60s70qX-xw For CM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj5Egv0GYG4feature=endscreen For RAUNCHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbvtB_0pKk For RAJA RAVI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f-K-XnHi9I For EMPTYBILL: http://www.archive.org/stream/interpersonaldia00learrich#page/n0/mode/2up For AUTHFRIEND: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMa38CZCSU For SHARE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWwgwytdzk For LG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP15EEaEQrU For ANN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_7l87prmI For BUCK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZcHLpjiEdw For MASKEDZEBRA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI HAPPY CHRISTMAS FFL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwHyuraau4Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_WSQpewNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j_ZcdxAAkc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2iAkqtylY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d11s0w9UNlg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knau6er2yow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47lNr5jK8QE
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Steve, I was sorry to hear about Buttons, if something happened to my Jack Russell (Jackie Chan), the world would be a much darker place; like the bumper sticker says: I'm trying to be the person my dog thinks I am. Jackie suggested I send you this link, when he's feeling down he likes to watch Orson Wells doing magic tricks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ajM3tVzoU From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:37:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Christmas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Yeah too many posts last week and I had to have my 18 year old cat put to sleep - I was very attached to her - so I been kinda quiet since then. From http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/330439 where Steve wrote: Well, my wife just called. Our black and white long hair kitty, Buttons, has cancer is going to have to be put down. The daughter just went upstairs crying. I'll likely start crying as soon as I see my wife. We had Buttons for about 15 years. Dear Michael Steve, Please accept my sincerest condolences on the loss of a family member. I'm gently weeping as I write this because I feel your loss. I'm an animal lover also...cats are my choice...and have been through losses throughout the years, however not having to have a loved one euthanized as yet. The first cat I ever owned (acquired by me and my ex...I kept the cat after the divorce) died while I was away for my father's funeral. The caretakers left me a note to call them as soon as I got back to my home, and I still had plenty of leftover tears to shed. I lost another one when he just didn't show back up at the end of a day out exploring...his name was Scamp because that's exactly what he was. And I found out about my third loss when I checked in with my caretaker while at MERU in Vlodrop who broke the news to me. I cried for the first and third, and spent many hours looking for the second before finally giving up. Now I have four under my care, the oldest being probably between 10-11 years old (I adopted her when she showed up at my doorstep pregnant). If I ever *do* have to make the decision to have one euthanized I suppose I'll react as both of you have reacted with discomfort, tears, self-doubt, etc. but I hope that I handle it with the love and grace that both of you have shown. And I am earmarking the responses from others here on FFL to read again because I know that they will bring me the same comfort that they must have brought to both of you. The best to you and your families, and kudos to everyone else. snip
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Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. The Wife sends her best, and my family wishes you a very Happy Christmas and fantabulous 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWbcosJdtU From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL BOB!!! What a treat you've brought us (including a glimpse of your charming self, even if it's just a quickie). Thank you so much for the video. I won't have time to watch the whole thing until after Christmas (I'm getting ready to go out of town tomorrow), but I took a look at the first few minutes, and I know I'm going to enjoy it a lot. Most cordial wishes to you and The Wife for a superb holiday. You sure have started ours out with a bang.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
LG, There's also the possibility that I'm Chance, and you're Schubert's Unfinished Symphony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2VFgHGKzx4 From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:54:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Happy Christmas FFL For TURQB http://www.spike.com/video-clips/ifl7g8/snl-christopher-walken For EMILY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEq0NNH1AM For SEVENTHRAY27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVGMsMws9Y For LORDKNOWS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m60s70qX-xw For CM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj5Egv0GYG4feature=endscreen For RAUNCHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbvtB_0pKk For RAJA RAVI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f-K-XnHi9I For EMPTYBILL: http://www.archive.org/stream/interpersonaldia00learrich#page/n0/mode/2up For AUTHFRIEND: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMa38CZCSU For SHARE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWwgwytdzk For LG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP15EEaEQrU Nailed it Bob! I quess we could say The Price is Right, eh? Of course I went straight to mine (thanks for the inclusion) and I'm looking forward to watching the others. And right back atcha on the Christmas wishes! P.S. Now I guess I'll have to change my nom de plume to Chauncey? (Oops, there I go again...oh well.) For ANN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_7l87prmI For BUCK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZcHLpjiEdw For MASKEDZEBRA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI HAPPY CHRISTMAS FFL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwHyuraau4Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_WSQpewNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j_ZcdxAAkc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2iAkqtylY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d11s0w9UNlg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knau6er2yow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47lNr5jK8QE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
King Baby, Are you sure you want to do this, the last time you gave it a go your spine got a little wobbly. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 10:58:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. Heh. I wondered how long it would be until we saw the real reason for this asshole's return. :-) Boring then, boring now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
Dudette, The Dude is honored to share the crown with such a worthy co-conspirator; my favorite FFL post of 2012 was the one in which the Dudette called a certain *continental* a douche bag! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gwc4UizUc Merry Christmas and Happy 2013 to you and your family. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 4:57:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL Wussup with the Christmas Cheer, Dude? Look, let me explain something to you before high tail it to the North Pole we don't hear from you until next year. You're the Dude. That's what we call you on FFLife. That, or His Dudeness … Duder … or El Duderino, if, you know, you're not into the whole brevity thing. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, Christmas Mead for Wassailing regimen to keep my mind limber. So be careful, man, there's a beverage here! XXXOOO Dudette, RD http://youtu.be/iMuFYnvSsZg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Happy Christmas FFL For TURQB http://www.spike.com/video-clips/ifl7g8/snl-christopher-walken For EMILY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEq0NNH1AM For SEVENTHRAY27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVGMsMws9Y For LORDKNOWS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m60s70qX-xw For CM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj5Egv0GYG4feature=endscreen For RAUNCHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbvtB_0pKk For RAJA RAVI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f-K-XnHi9I For EMPTYBILL: http://www.archive.org/stream/interpersonaldia00learrich#page/n0/mode/2up For AUTHFRIEND: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMa38CZCSU For SHARE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWwgwytdzk For LG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP15EEaEQrU For ANN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_7l87prmI For BUCK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZcHLpjiEdw For MASKEDZEBRA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI HAPPY CHRISTMAS FFL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwHyuraau4Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_WSQpewNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j_ZcdxAAkc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2iAkqtylY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d11s0w9UNlg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knau6er2yow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47lNr5jK8QE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
Raja Ravi, After Tim Leary, Orson Wells, and Robin, you continue to be my favorite performance artist. Remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8zoB8nAIWo From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:18:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL Welcome to FFL dear Obba, I don't think Bob is a real person - he, like Robin said, is Santa, now with email access. If he is indeed a real person he better meet me when I'm in the Bay area mid-January. On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 10:59 AM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Happy Christmas all you guys and gals! Is this Bob I see as I troll FFL? Welcome Bob or is that bOB? Happy giggles of happiness to you all! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Dear Bob - welcome back to FFL !!! Excellent choice of video - one for Raja Ravi that is :-) - don't have time to watch the rest - surely later or read Robin's comments. Love, Ravi On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: ** Happy Christmas FFL For TURQB http://www.spike.com/video-clips/ifl7g8/snl-christopher-walken For EMILY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEq0NNH1AM For SEVENTHRAY27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVGMsMws9Y For LORDKNOWS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m60s70qX-xw For CM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj5Egv0GYG4feature=endscreen For RAUNCHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbvtB_0pKk For RAJA RAVI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f-K-XnHi9I For EMPTYBILL: http://www.archive.org/stream/interpersonaldia00learrich#page/n0/mode/2up For AUTHFRIEND: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMa38CZCSU For SHARE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWwgwytdzk For LG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP15EEaEQrU For ANN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_7l87prmI For BUCK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZcHLpjiEdw For MASKEDZEBRA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI HAPPY CHRISTMAS FFL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwHyuraau4Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_WSQpewNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j_ZcdxAAkc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2iAkqtylY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d11s0w9UNlg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knau6er2yow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47lNr5jK8QE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
Ann, Thank you for your response, I'm pleased you liked the documentary. I've enjoyed reading your posts, and got the impression you like to dance; like architecture, I see sculpture as a performance art, and no one did it better than Bernini. Are you familiar with the Performing Arts Center in Abu Dhabi; the architect, Zaha Hadid, is a very talented lady. http://tinyurl.com/ctc4235 Merry Christmas to you and your family. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:40:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL Dear Bob, We have yet to meet as you were no longer posting when I hopped aboard FFL. But if this written 'offering', these 'gifts', are anything to go by I certainly hope you stick around posting, not just reading! 'My' Bernini piece is astounding and I have only watched a mere 16:34 worth. As a man and as an artist Bernini just thrills me to the bone. Having graduated with an art major, I am familiar with his work but this particular documentary is exceptional and the camera work captures the power and tactile nature of the marble, truly extraordinary. This appears to be a man who felt so deeply he was able to restructure marble with his very intention and his zest for life, his understanding of energy and force of emotion. Brilliant. I will continue to watch the rest today as a highlight of my afternoon. Thank you again and have a magnificent Christmastime. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Happy Christmas FFL For TURQB http://www.spike.com/video-clips/ifl7g8/snl-christopher-walken For EMILY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEq0NNH1AM For SEVENTHRAY27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVGMsMws9Y For LORDKNOWS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m60s70qX-xw For CM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj5Egv0GYG4feature=endscreen For RAUNCHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbvtB_0pKk For RAJA RAVI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f-K-XnHi9I For EMPTYBILL: http://www.archive.org/stream/interpersonaldia00learrich#page/n0/mode/2up For AUTHFRIEND: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMa38CZCSU For SHARE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWwgwytdzk For LG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP15EEaEQrU For ANN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_7l87prmI For BUCK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZcHLpjiEdw For MASKEDZEBRA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI HAPPY CHRISTMAS FFL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwHyuraau4Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_WSQpewNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j_ZcdxAAkc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2iAkqtylY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d11s0w9UNlg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knau6er2yow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47lNr5jK8QE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
Obba, As I hope you know, you are one of my favorite posters on FFL; other than me, you're likely the only person who read all my Rowing to Doha series and encouraged me to continue. How could I ever forget that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFrpHyE5Rp8 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:28:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL My narcissistic self is waiting for Bob to acknowledge me. Didn't I send you enough nudes to make you happy? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Thank you dear Bob - even though you titillated my narcissistic cells a little bit I don't know why I still feel dissatisfied. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and the family !!! P.S. And where's the gift for our charming, delightful, darling Obba? On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: ** Raja Ravi, After Tim Leary, Orson Wells, and Robin, you continue to be my favorite performance artist. Remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8zoB8nAIWo From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:18:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL Welcome to FFL dear Obba, I don't think Bob is a real person - he, like Robin said, is Santa, now with email access. If he is indeed a real person he better meet me when I'm in the Bay area mid-January. On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 10:59 AM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Happy Christmas all you guys and gals! Is this Bob I see as I troll FFL? Welcome Bob or is that bOB? Happy giggles of happiness to you all! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Dear Bob - welcome back to FFL !!! Excellent choice of video - one for Raja Ravi that is :-) - don't have time to watch the rest - surely later or read Robin's comments. Love, Ravi On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: ** Happy Christmas FFL For TURQB http://www.spike.com/video-clips/ifl7g8/snl-christopher-walken For EMILY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEq0NNH1AM For SEVENTHRAY27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVGMsMws9Y For LORDKNOWS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m60s70qX-xw For CM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj5Egv0GYG4feature=endscreen For RAUNCHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbvtB_0pKk For RAJA RAVI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f-K-XnHi9I For EMPTYBILL: http://www.archive.org/stream/interpersonaldia00learrich#page/n0/mode/2up For AUTHFRIEND: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMa38CZCSU For SHARE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWwgwytdzk For LG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP15EEaEQrU For ANN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_7l87prmI For BUCK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZcHLpjiEdw For MASKEDZEBRA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI HAPPY CHRISTMAS FFL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwHyuraau4Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_WSQpewNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j_ZcdxAAkc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2iAkqtylY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d11s0w9UNlg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knau6er2yow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47lNr5jK8QE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
I've never thought of Judy as a piece of cake; if you're asking me if I admire her, absolutely (I admire everyone with talent). Are roses any less beautiful when they have fully bloomed; I guess it depends on your taste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbMYzdjuBs From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:23:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL But, Bob, would Judy be *moist* enough for you?? ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Judy, Thank you for your warm wishes, I never tire of the laughter I get from reading your posts when you box the ears of the veracity challenged. The Wife sends her best, and my family wishes you a very Happy Christmas and fantabulous 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWbcosJdtU From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:02:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL BOB!!! What a treat you've brought us (including a glimpse of your charming self, even if it's just a quickie). Thank you so much for the video. I won't have time to watch the whole thing until after Christmas (I'm getting ready to go out of town tomorrow), but I took a look at the first few minutes, and I know I'm going to enjoy it a lot. Most cordial wishes to you and The Wife for a superb holiday. You sure have started ours out with a bang. Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL
Ravi, Watching your rebirth on FFL has been a guilty pleasure of mine; if I ever go back to my outlaw ways I would still want you as my wheel man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z5LXyWn3-w Merry Christmas old friend. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 12:25:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL Thank you dear Bob - even though you titillated my narcissistic cells a little bit I don't know why I still feel dissatisfied. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and the family !!! P.S. And where's the gift for our charming, delightful, darling Obba? On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote: Raja Ravi, After Tim Leary, Orson Wells, and Robin, you continue to be my favorite performance artist. Remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8zoB8nAIWo From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:18:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Christmas FFL Welcome to FFL dear Obba, I don't think Bob is a real person - he, like Robin said, is Santa, now with email access. If he is indeed a real person he better meet me when I'm in the Bay area mid-January. On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 10:59 AM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Happy Christmas all you guys and gals! Is this Bob I see as I troll FFL? Welcome Bob or is that bOB? Happy giggles of happiness to you all! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Dear Bob - welcome back to FFL !!! Excellent choice of video - one for Raja Ravi that is :-) - don't have time to watch the rest - surely later or read Robin's comments. Love, Ravi On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: ** Happy Christmas FFL For TURQB http://www.spike.com/video-clips/ifl7g8/snl-christopher-walken For EMILY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEq0NNH1AM For SEVENTHRAY27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVGMsMws9Y For LORDKNOWS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m60s70qX-xw For CM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj5Egv0GYG4feature=endscreen For RAUNCHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbvtB_0pKk For RAJA RAVI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f-K-XnHi9I For EMPTYBILL: http://www.archive.org/stream/interpersonaldia00learrich#page/n0/mode/2up For AUTHFRIEND: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMa38CZCSU For SHARE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWwgwytdzk For LG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP15EEaEQrU For ANN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_7l87prmI For BUCK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZcHLpjiEdw For MASKEDZEBRA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI HAPPY CHRISTMAS FFL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwHyuraau4Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_WSQpewNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j_ZcdxAAkc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2iAkqtylY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d11s0w9UNlg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knau6er2yow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47lNr5jK8QE
[FairfieldLife] Happy Christmas FFL
Happy Christmas FFL For TURQB http://www.spike.com/video-clips/ifl7g8/snl-christopher-walken For EMILY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEq0NNH1AM For SEVENTHRAY27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVGMsMws9Y For LORDKNOWS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m60s70qX-xw For CM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj5Egv0GYG4feature=endscreen For RAUNCHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbvtB_0pKk For RAJA RAVI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f-K-XnHi9I For EMPTYBILL: http://www.archive.org/stream/interpersonaldia00learrich#page/n0/mode/2up For AUTHFRIEND: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMa38CZCSU For SHARE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWwgwytdzk For LG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP15EEaEQrU For ANN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95_7l87prmI For BUCK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZcHLpjiEdw For MASKEDZEBRA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI HAPPY CHRISTMAS FFL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwHyuraau4Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_WSQpewNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j_ZcdxAAkc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2iAkqtylY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d11s0w9UNlg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knau6er2yow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47lNr5jK8QE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Prometheus trailer
below From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 8:03:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Prometheus trailer Ridley Scott is a sometimes great filmmaker, but he got his start in advertising, so he is a genius at trailers. Here's his first trailer for the upcoming prequel to Alien, which manages to entice without giving away any of the plot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sftuxbvGwiU Turn it up to 720p and go full screen. The trailer is so good, there is actually a trailer for the trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch_hhDLtrFE Check out the credits. Noomi Rapace (the original Girl With A Dragon Tattoo), Charlize Theron, Michael Fassbender, Guy Pearce, and Idris Elba. One to look forward to. ***BP: Barry, Happy New Year Bro, hope that *hot* date didn't disappoint. I apologize for my neglect over the holidays, but I'm back and enthusiastically ready to follow you where no poster has gone before. I trust you know how much some of us are rooting for you to make it as a film reviewer. I think its completely understandable for you to be practicing to be a film reviewer on a forum about spirituality, that is named for a town, where many people practice a technique you stopped practicing nearly *40* years ago. I also believe the voice you employ, which seems to assume there are no televisions in America, may have legs. For this reason I think it's important, whenever we can, that we lend you a hand with the reviews: The forum that reviews together, stays together, sort of thing. For starters, mentioning that Ridley Scott got his start in advertising might be considered one of those duh moments since most current Hollywood directors have made television commercials at one time or another during their careers. Your readers might find it more interesting if you mentioned RS actually got his start as a *production designer* in the early 60's, a good ten years before his television commercial period, and that the quality of the *production design*, in his films, is what sets his work apart from many of his peers. You could also mention that this was more than demonstrated in Blade Runner (many production designers consider this an immersion course in production design) and Alien, where Scott's artistic sense as a *production designer* lead to his brilliant decision to attach Swiss graphic artist HR GIGER to the Alien project, whose work, in many ways, made the film so visually exceptional. You might also point out that prior to Giger's work, on Alien, most people had never considered the fusion of organisms, and organic materials with industrial machinery, and technology; today, because of Alien, and the many movies that copied it's pioneering work, the public take this sort of visual fantasy for granted. You could also point out that Scott has been quoted as saying Texas Chainsaw Massacre, not Star Wars was the antecedent he referenced in making Alien. It might also be of interest to mention the script was kicked around Hollywood for nearly ten years, and almost everything from the original story changed except for the chest bursting scene which kept the Producers trying to green light it. . Scott was a British unknown when he was invited to Hollywood and offered the project with a $2 million budget, which obviously (good to throw in a few of these in your style of review) in 1978, was not the micro budget it is today. After reading the script it took Scott a week to produce a storyboard (again the production design thang) that convinced the producers to increase the budget from 2M to 11M. One of the reasons the Alien sequels, with much bigger budgets, have never achieved the brilliance of the original is that they have never achieved the authenticity of the world Scott, and Giger created. Scott does not pretend to be a writer; his noble failures can usually be traced to a weak script, whereas his great successes like Alien, Blade Runner, Thelma and Louise, and Gladiator had exceptionally strong source material; he knows what a strong narrative is, and his is smart enough to hire great actors and let them do their job, but his brilliance is in creating *places* (production design) where the magic can unfold (the fog and rain in Blade Runner). And just a heads up, a trailer of a trailer is called a *teaser*. And finally, as we all know, as often as not, an inverse relationship exists between the quality of a trailer and the film it's advertising. For this reason, you may want to stick to reviewing films you have actually seen, at least until you get your reviewing sea legs. As one of your fans; it seems to me you have two choices going forward, stop being so lazy, or don't give up your day job. http://www.hrgiger.com/frame.htm Spoiler alerts. (If you're one of the three people on the planet who have not seen Alien or Blade Runner.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
Vague, You and Barry give new meaning to the epithet Pond Scum, first you go after Robin's ex-wife, speculating on their love life, and now its his mother (neither of whom would give either of you the time of day---opps, I guess that may be your problem). Your poorly written fictions obviously have nothing to do with reality and everything to do with the shared Oedipus complex that draws the two of you together. If you're going to continue to *attempt* to write fiction you must look into a few courses; you *must* realize, its a discipline. vague |vāg| adjective of uncertain, indefinite, or unclear character or meaning : many patients suffer vague symptoms. • thinking or communicating in an unfocused or imprecise way : he had been very vague about his activities. DERIVATIVES vaguely adverb vagueness noun vaguish adjective ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, or from Latin vagus ‘wandering, uncertain.’ From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 6:09:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula On Dec 26, 2011, at 7:12 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: According to Maharishi and according to tradition this [losing Unity Consciousness] is not possible. In this case it wasn't fully established. Either that or it never happened in the first place. That is, from everything that has been reported here that I've read, the entire episode sounds like a classic case of NPD/hypmania augmented by moodmaking and a desire to become the focus of other people's attention. There's more evidence to suggest this, as a common 'bragging claim' of Carlsen followers was the fact that he wrote The Discovery of Grace with commentary (I believe, or one of his tomes) by staying up all night and simply dictating it, in one go. To us rabid TMers this was just more evidence of enlightenment when, in 20/20 retrospect it was more evidence of hypomania run amuck. I've seen it happen before to other gurus who set up shop based on self-announced (and never verfied, even by their own teachers) enlightenment. While some passing remarks of Maheshiji were at first used to prop up his claim of Unity, later this was not enough. This culminated in RWC's court case against M. where it was required that M. respond on tape declaring or denying RWC's enlightenment. This was done and a tape was delivered to the court in Ottumwa, as with baited breath they awaited the final verdict, - which consisted of Maheshiji grunting a noew to the tape recorder. So the claim from his guru is that no, he was not enlightened. His behaviors continued to escalate and I believe, to this very day, if RWC sets foot in the state of Iowa, he would be detained for 40 days in the Jefferson Co. prison - possibly longer, since he skipped off to Victoria to escape his fate. The thing that causes me to believe in this theory is the fact that RWC refuses to even consider it, even as a possibility. *His* subjective view is the only possible explanation. That's pretty much classic NPD/hypomania. Yep. I wonder what his mother Norah - an esteemed and groundbreaking Ph.D. psychologist - would have said? I cannot help hear her voice in the psychobabble of Robin interspersed in his lingo back then. But if IIRC, she did not approve. She may have even been declared demonic - a certain, real shunning for anyone in the World Teacher Seminar. She left this world however in 2000, so we may not ever know, but it's an interesting part of the RWC story: boy raised by glass ceiling breaking female psychologist. And I wonder how many present day psychologists she inspired? Perhaps many. IMO, Dr. Norah Carlsen, Ph.D. is the more interesting story I'd like to hear. My belated condolences on the passing of this incredible woman.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
And what about my accusation that you're pond scum? From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 10:44:28 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula Hey Boob: On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Bob Price wrote: Vague, You and Barry give new meaning to the epithet Pond Scum, first you go after Robin's ex-wife, speculating on their love life, and now its his mother (neither of whom would give either of you the time of day---opps, I guess that may be your problem). Actually, she did give me the time of day, and an answer to whether R. was still alive - contrary to the disinformation that was coming from TM types like yourself. boob1 |boōb|informal noun 1 a foolish or stupid person : why was that boob given a key investigation? 2 Brit. an embarrassing mistake. ORIGIN early 20th cent.: abbreviation ofbooby 1 .
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net snip Actually, she did give me the time of day ***BP: Now we're getting somewhere, Dr. Carlsen treated you and Barry for your Oedipus complex. Vague, Don't ever let anyone tell you you're not terminally unique, I am absolutely convinced you're the only person on the planet pretending to be a TM initiator.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
vajradh...@earthlink.net snip Actually, she did give me the time of day vajradh...@earthlink.net snip Alas, we never met. But a relative did send me the family tree. ***BP: Your VAGUENESS, Like I said: vague |vāg| adjective of uncertain, indefinite, or unclear character or meaning : many patients suffer vague symptoms. • thinking or communicating in an unfocused or imprecise way : he had been very vague about his activities. DERIVATIVES vaguely adverb vagueness noun vaguish adjective ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, or from Latin vagus ‘wandering, uncertain.’
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prometheus trailer
Many thanks Judy, Hope you had a great Christmas and the very best for 2012. Like our American Caesar (except he's a Canadian) MZ has returned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6WioCDbC-Afeature=related From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 10:58:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prometheus trailer --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: snip ***This next one is for Robin and Ravi; without you two, this place just isn’t the same. I have a bad feeling neither of them is coming back. What a loss, if so. Thank goodness you and Emily are still here. For spirituality, IMO, in the same league as Space Odyssey 2001. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_saUN4j7Gw Well beyond, by me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image)
The wife said to tell you that if I hadn't had this effect on so many of her predecessors, we'd be happily retired in Napa by now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8myNz7SwUgEfeature=related From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 5:56:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image) Bob, I would have married you too. From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image) Emily, The wife said: I'm not sure about you, but from that cartoon I think Emily is psychic.'The wife asked me to send you this link to a song I courted her with; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLNF32bKed0 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 12:24:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image) Merry Christmas Bob! Yes, I was just telling the kids that wouldn't it be nice if we could spend next Christmas in Hawaii. Perhaps I'll move there in advance and pursue a new path as an abstract painter/beach bum bunny. Now, a little context for the comic below. I stopped in my favorite used bookstore the other day in the University District, Magus Books - the oldest independent used book store in Seattle, buying and selling used and rare books - right around the corner from my favorite brick storefront hole-in-the-wall coffee house, located in an alley a few doors down from where the the homeless youth congregate for a daily free meal...and, anywayI was looking for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (yes, I'm going to read it before seeing the movie). They had one copy, a 1974 hardcover, which I grabbed off the shelf. While perusing, I noticed that they were also selling New Yorker cards and the line on this comic grabbed my attention as it includes several pertinent references and gave me a good laugh. I thought to myself, hmmm I should send this to HotBob (now referred to as Semi-PsychicBob)...he's been s helpful, after all. So, in searching the internet for this comic, I found it and was shocked to see upon reading the explanation that I had completely missed the subtext. I thought OMG, I can't possibly send this now...what message will I be sending...not the one I was amused at on the face of it...what will FFL think...I already made this big deal about not dating married menthis will be all wrong. I will have to cower in shame for weeks after this. And then, I looked more closely at the comic and it occurred to me that this woman is not even your type - her ankles are not nearly narrow enough and there is no armani in sight and I think you said you still have some hair left on your head and that's just the beginning of my analysis. So, I'm going to go out on a limb here and post it anyway. Now, back to a few final gift wraps and the best to you and yours :). From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE33l8JrFlQ A groan, a yell, and a loud crash startled me from my brandy eggnog stupor, the after burn from the nutmeg on my tongue reminded me what night it was; the tiny red, green, and gold lights, strung along the mantel, continued to blink through the dust coming from the fireplace, which had just disgorged what looked like a large red and white fur ball wrapped in a large black leather belt. In the shadows, I sat in the lazy comfort of my easy chair; the warmth from the computer on my lap felt as good as any Christmas quilt. Sure, he looked a lot like Santa (except for the tan), and since I didn't believe in Santa, how dangerous could a man in a Santa suit be, with what looked like a sack of gifts---who had just crashed down my chimney. I decided to sit still, and see what he was up to. He reached into his sack, and pulled out a bunch of stockings, and started to hang them---lovingly, one by one. He then took packages and bundles of papers that looked like contracts, from his bag, and carefully filled each stocking. In what seemed like a flash he finished filling the stockings; he walked over and helped himself to the burfi and lassi the daughter had left for him, and just as fast as he had arrived he was up the chimney and gone. After he left I unfolded myself, and went over and peeked
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image)
Steve, Like my cranberry sauce at Christmas; I look forward to your posts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkmP7TApdMQ From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 5:39:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image) Bob, thanks. I remembered shortly after I posted last night, my other Christmas present. Skull Candy headphones. And I can't wait to use them to listen you the links you post. But I can't do so right now, cause the wife just finished grilling some filets, and I have to help set the table. But of all the posting, I've been clicking on only yours. Ciao for now. Christkas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Steve, The very best of the season to you and yours; i still think you're one of the funniest people on this forum. Happy 2012 Thanks Bob. I remembered shortly after I posted last night, my other Christmas gift. Skull Candy headphones. And I can't wait to use them to listen to your links. But truthfully, the wife just finished grilling some filets on the back porch at 7,200 ft., and she also made some mashed potatoes, so I''m gonna have to listen to the link later. But of all the postings, I am clicking on only yours. So, I'm gonna help set the table. Ciao again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Ql1284QLw From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:53:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: In a sock marked *Steve* I found a box of DVD's called:  The collected works of Danny Kaye, and the following link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw8ZL_gcTSMfeature=fvwrel Bob, Thanks for including me in what sounds like a Christmas gift.  I am on vacation with the family and can't do much FFLing. I will tell you that Santa was very generous to me this year.  I got a new pillow pet which I use when I lean against the dining room table, where I often do computer work.  I got a bad of the local smoke house beef jerky.  I got a $45.00 gift certificate to Quizos, and one other item I can't remember right now, cause moma just fixed dinner.  Ciao for now. Â
[FairfieldLife] ...and the winner is ....(was the longest thread in FFL history)
It's that time of year again, the time we have all been waiting for, the thirty-six annual, FFL Unintended Irony Award ---for exceptionally unintended and unconscious irony in a post reaching for intellectual splendor. We must state upfront that this year, 2011, we *witnessed* a ferocity of competiveness rarely seen on FFL. This was particularly true of a couple of late entries by our very own Barry who in previous years has made this competition virtually a one-man affair, but this year we *witnessed* the entry of a dark horse who's looks to make this much more than a one horse race for many, many years to come, but before we announce this years winner we must announce the runners up; Second runner up: turquoiseb snip Wishing you well, both as Doug and as Buck. May your stockings be full of what you wish them to be full of. I have a hot date later, and know that hers will be. :-) ***BP: Given his need to share this type of information with his fellow FFL posters one assumes Barry was hoping for some speculation on who he might be referring to; given his obvious respect and hope for the future of their relationship with the fortunate lady---I think this receptionist is one possibility. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDxIFQLOiV0 First runner up: turquoiseb snip irony mode ON irony mode OFF This late entry made this year's award almost impossible to adjudicate; in one short post Barry has showed us how to addresses this nagging FFL issue of how to explain irony to an emotional eight year old well into his sixties. So I hope everyone will joint me in giving Barry a heart felt round of applause with his entry of: The Barry Wright Irony Meta Tags which its my sincere hope everyone will learn to use liberally. And now without further delay; and the winner is of this years Unintended Irony Award. zarzari_786 snip Judy, your post was brilliant, and I never had a doubt that your intellect is among the sharpest here, and that's why I can say to you, I have the clear feeling, there is some love-bombing going on here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_bombing I can understand that this is luring, especially when one has been through very dry online discussions, with mostly men. Besides that, the whole culture in the TM movement isn't really geared toward the heart, so I can understand, if somebody comes, and touches you on a wholly differnt level, it is a kind of transcending itself. Yet, it is the same effect, if you simply fall in love -it can be as simple as that. This mingling of ideas about love, and spiritual ideas is quite common in the spiritual field, it does happen a lot, with gurus and their disciples, ladies - of all ages -fall in love with their male gurus, and men fall in love with their lady Matajis. But it does not substitue discrimination and real discernment about the ultimate state of enlightenment. And I know about it - yes I do know about it - only in real life, not on internet forums. You rightly say, that it is not possible to judge an enlightened according to his behaviour, especially not on the net, because how would you know? Because the internet puts a layer between us, that doesn't exist in real life. And that's exactly the point: As you are not in the physical proximity of the other person, it is more difficult to make a judgement, and therefore, what's the whole point of such a connection then? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/298524 Dear zarzar_739, On behalf of the group I wanted to tell you how much you have impressed in such a short time (this award is no where near the half of it); at first I thought you seemed like Xeno on valium, but then you seemed to get a second wind which I can only describe: as if Cliff Clavin came back as a Pashtun; please don't get me wrong I think you are coming into your own and I've been more than a little dazzled with your polemics dressed up as dialogues (no doubt MZ is a little dazzled as well), and having worked with more than one German in my career, I'm impressed. I just have one question, and I would appreciate if you don't give your answer a lot of thought, although it could impact our interactions going forward. Did you can me a Moonie? From: zarzari_786 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 2:31:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 12/26/2011 04:12 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786no_reply@ wrote: According to Maharishi and according to tradition this [losing Unity Consciousness] is not possible. In this case it wasn't fully established. Either that or it never happened in the first place. That is, from everything that has been reported here that I've read, the entire episode
Re: [FairfieldLife] The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image)
Emily, The wife said: I'm not sure about you, but from that cartoon I think Emily is psychic.'The wife asked me to send you this link to a song I courted her with; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLNF32bKed0 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 12:24:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image) Merry Christmas Bob! Yes, I was just telling the kids that wouldn't it be nice if we could spend next Christmas in Hawaii. Perhaps I'll move there in advance and pursue a new path as an abstract painter/beach bum bunny. Now, a little context for the comic below. I stopped in my favorite used bookstore the other day in the University District, Magus Books - the oldest independent used book store in Seattle, buying and selling used and rare books - right around the corner from my favorite brick storefront hole-in-the-wall coffee house, located in an alley a few doors down from where the the homeless youth congregate for a daily free meal...and, anywayI was looking for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (yes, I'm going to read it before seeing the movie). They had one copy, a 1974 hardcover, which I grabbed off the shelf. While perusing, I noticed that they were also selling New Yorker cards and the line on this comic grabbed my attention as it includes several pertinent references and gave me a good laugh. I thought to myself, hmmm I should send this to HotBob (now referred to as Semi-PsychicBob)...he's been s helpful, after all. So, in searching the internet for this comic, I found it and was shocked to see upon reading the explanation that I had completely missed the subtext. I thought OMG, I can't possibly send this now...what message will I be sending...not the one I was amused at on the face of it...what will FFL think...I already made this big deal about not dating married menthis will be all wrong. I will have to cower in shame for weeks after this. And then, I looked more closely at the comic and it occurred to me that this woman is not even your type - her ankles are not nearly narrow enough and there is no armani in sight and I think you said you still have some hair left on your head and that's just the beginning of my analysis. So, I'm going to go out on a limb here and post it anyway. Now, back to a few final gift wraps and the best to you and yours :). From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE33l8JrFlQ A groan, a yell, and a loud crash startled me from my brandy eggnog stupor, the after burn from the nutmeg on my tongue reminded me what night it was; the tiny red, green, and gold lights, strung along the mantel, continued to blink through the dust coming from the fireplace, which had just disgorged what looked like a large red and white fur ball wrapped in a large black leather belt. In the shadows, I sat in the lazy comfort of my easy chair; the warmth from the computer on my lap felt as good as any Christmas quilt. Sure, he looked a lot like Santa (except for the tan), and since I didn't believe in Santa, how dangerous could a man in a Santa suit be, with what looked like a sack of gifts---who had just crashed down my chimney. I decided to sit still, and see what he was up to. He reached into his sack, and pulled out a bunch of stockings, and started to hang them---lovingly, one by one. He then took packages and bundles of papers that looked like contracts, from his bag, and carefully filled each stocking. In what seemed like a flash he finished filling the stockings; he walked over and helped himself to the burfi and lassi the daughter had left for him, and just as fast as he had arrived he was up the chimney and gone. After he left I unfolded myself, and went over and peeked in the stocking. In a sock marked *Barry* I found a small Dictaphone, and the following link: http://www.stenold.org/Cour_secretary.asp In a sock marked *Curtis* I found a telephone numbers with the name Robert Johnson written under it, and the following link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBqfZ5d5zw8feature=related In a sock marked *MZ* I found a leather bound copy of a book called: Tractatus Logico Philosophicus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CICjJpyz55ofature=fvwrel In a sock marked *Judy*, he put a copy of The Conversations, and the following link: http://www.iofilm.co.uk/io/mit/001/murch.php In a sock marked *Alex*, I found a old 45 of this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HJ7w9MTCqs In a sock marked *RD* I found a book called The truth is highly
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image)
Obbajeeba, On behalf of the wife and myself, kiss kiss back at you, and a very happy boxing day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U24g88GNgMI From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 9:18:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image) Oh Bob and wife, KISS KISS KISS and HUG! My other favorite thing to do is press the Try Me, buttons on all the electronic noisy, dancing, blinking toys, all stacked upon and around each other. The goal is to see how many toys one can get going consecutively and also to see who gets pissed off first, the employees or the customers, when one pushes, Try Me, on the displayed toys. Thank you so very much. Mr. Bean is awesome. : ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE33l8JrFlQ A groan, a yell, and a loud crash startled me from my brandy eggnog stupor, the after burn from the nutmeg on my tongue reminded me what night it was; the tiny red, green, and gold lights, strung along the mantel, continued to blink through the dust coming from the fireplace, which had just disgorged what looked like a large red and white fur ball wrapped in a large black leather belt. In the shadows, I sat in the lazy comfort of my easy chair; the warmth from the computer on my lap felt as good as any Christmas quilt. Sure, he looked a lot like Santa (except for the tan), and since I didn't believe in Santa, how dangerous could a man in a Santa suit be, with what looked like a sack of gifts---who had just crashed down my chimney. I decided to sit still, and see what he was up to. He reached into his sack, and pulled out a bunch of stockings, and started to hang them---lovingly, one by one. He then took packages and bundles of papers that looked like contracts, from his bag, and carefully filled each stocking. In what seemed like a flash he finished filling the stockings; he walked over and helped himself to the burfi and lassi the daughter had left for him, and just as fast as he had arrived he was up the chimney and gone. After he left I unfolded myself, and went over and peeked in the stocking. In a sock marked *Barry* I found a small Dictaphone, and the following link: http://www.stenold.org/Cour_secretary.asp In a sock marked *Curtis* I found a telephone numbers with the name Robert Johnson written under it, and the following link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBqfZ5d5zw8feature=related In a sock marked *MZ* I found a leather bound copy of a book called: Tractatus Logico Philosophicus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CICjJpyz55ofature=fvwrel   In a sock marked *Judy*, he put a copy of The Conversations, and the following link: http://www.iofilm.co.uk/io/mit/001/murch.php In a sock marked *Alex*, I found a old 45 of this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HJ7w9MTCqs In a sock marked *RD* I found a book called The truth is highly overrated: The Autobiography of Roger Ailes. In a sock marked *Rick* I found a term sheet for Batgap from Harpo Inc. In a sock marked *Bob* I found a memo from CAA stating: LSD, The Inside Story has been green lit by WB. In a sock marked *Steve* I found a box of DVD's called:  The collected works of Danny Kaye, and the following link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw8ZL_gcTSMfeature=fvwrel In a sock marked *Emily* I found a paint set and a ticket to Maui. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7KbXH67zIgfeature=related In a sock marked *emptybill* I found this: So Agni stands on earth's most central station, invested in well-decorated garments. Born, red of hue, where men pour out libations, O King, as great High Priest bring the Gods hither. - Rig Veda/ HYMN I. / Book 10 In a sock marked *Jim* I found this quote from of Romero and Juliet: And when I shall die, take him and cut him up in little stars, and he will make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will fall in love with night and pay no worship to the garish sun.  In a sock marked *obeewan* I found this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpv=Se5CBogDuYUNR=1 Suddenly, the sound of gunfire spit the silence of the Christmas Eve night; I ran to the window and threw open the curtain; I was amazed to see Santa, the Reindeer, and his sled, racing down the icy street being chased by a couple of aging endomorph's dropping ammunition everywhere as they struggled to reload what looked like a couple of elephant guns. Santa shouted: Now Dasher! now, Dancer! now, Prancer and Vixen! On, Comet! On, Cupid! on, on Donner and Blitzen! To the top of the porch! to the top of the wall! Now dash away! Dash away! Dash away all
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image)
Steve, The very best of the season to you and yours; i still think you're one of the funniest people on this forum. Happy 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Ql1284QLw From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:53:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: In a sock marked *Steve* I found a box of DVD's called: Â The collected works of Danny Kaye, and the following link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw8ZL_gcTSMfeature=fvwrel Bob, Thanks for including me in what sounds like a Christmas gift. I am on vacation with the family and can't do much FFLing. I will tell you that Santa was very generous to me this year. I got a new pillow pet which I use when I lean against the dining room table, where I often do computer work. I got a bad of the local smoke house beef jerky. I got a $45.00 gift certificate to Quizos, and one other item I can't remember right now, cause moma just fixed dinner. Ciao for now.
[FairfieldLife] The two guys that tried to shoot Santa (was *something* about their image)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE33l8JrFlQ A groan, a yell, and a loud crash startled me from my brandy eggnog stupor, the after burn from the nutmeg on my tongue reminded me what night it was; the tiny red, green, and gold lights, strung along the mantel, continued to blink through the dust coming from the fireplace, which had just disgorged what looked like a large red and white fur ball wrapped in a large black leather belt. In the shadows, I sat in the lazy comfort of my easy chair; the warmth from the computer on my lap felt as good as any Christmas quilt. Sure, he looked a lot like Santa (except for the tan), and since I didn't believe in Santa, how dangerous could a man in a Santa suit be, with what looked like a sack of gifts---who had just crashed down my chimney. I decided to sit still, and see what he was up to. He reached into his sack, and pulled out a bunch of stockings, and started to hang them---lovingly, one by one. He then took packages and bundles of papers that looked like contracts, from his bag, and carefully filled each stocking. In what seemed like a flash he finished filling the stockings; he walked over and helped himself to the burfi and lassi the daughter had left for him, and just as fast as he had arrived he was up the chimney and gone. After he left I unfolded myself, and went over and peeked in the stocking. In a sock marked *Barry* I found a small Dictaphone, and the following link: http://www.stenold.org/Cour_secretary.asp In a sock marked *Curtis* I found a telephone numbers with the name Robert Johnson written under it, and the following link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBqfZ5d5zw8feature=related In a sock marked *MZ* I found a leather bound copy of a book called: Tractatus Logico Philosophicus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CICjJpyz55ofature=fvwrel In a sock marked *Judy*, he put a copy of The Conversations, and the following link: http://www.iofilm.co.uk/io/mit/001/murch.php In a sock marked *Alex*, I found a old 45 of this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HJ7w9MTCqs In a sock marked *RD* I found a book called The truth is highly overrated: The Autobiography of Roger Ailes. In a sock marked *Rick* I found a term sheet for Batgap from Harpo Inc. In a sock marked *Bob* I found a memo from CAA stating: LSD, The Inside Story has been green lit by WB. In a sock marked *Steve* I found a box of DVD's called: The collected works of Danny Kaye, and the following link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw8ZL_gcTSMfeature=fvwrel In a sock marked *Emily* I found a paint set and a ticket to Maui. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7KbXH67zIgfeature=related In a sock marked *emptybill* I found this: So Agni stands on earth's most central station, invested in well-decorated garments. Born, red of hue, where men pour out libations, O King, as great High Priest bring the Gods hither. - Rig Veda/ HYMN I. / Book 10 In a sock marked *Jim* I found this quote from of Romero and Juliet: And when I shall die, take him and cut him up in little stars, and he will make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will fall in love with night and pay no worship to the garish sun. In a sock marked *obeewan* I found this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpv=Se5CBogDuYUNR=1 Suddenly, the sound of gunfire spit the silence of the Christmas Eve night; I ran to the window and threw open the curtain; I was amazed to see Santa, the Reindeer, and his sled, racing down the icy street being chased by a couple of aging endomorph's dropping ammunition everywhere as they struggled to reload what looked like a couple of elephant guns. Santa shouted: Now Dasher! now, Dancer! now, Prancer and Vixen! On, Comet! On, Cupid! on, on Donner and Blitzen! To the top of the porch! to the top of the wall! Now dash away! Dash away! Dash away all! And up the mighty sleigh, overloaded with love and gifts, lifted into the safety of the clear black sky, but before they were out of earshot I heard Santa laugh very loudly in his strong, and loving voice and yell: The Bobsled was right about you two *BITCHES*; the way you two shot, there's no way I'd take you on Safari. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:05:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shroud of Turin Image --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I know, how dare I! As I told you I did answer it in detail before my computer got thrashed. I am still working on that so I have to type on a mushy Ipad. When I considered going back to recreate it all I realized that the quote I used was the best focal point of our different perspectives. I felt that you 5 pager had really just been a rehash of what I had already answered, basically ignoring what I had written and
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Third Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula
Barry, For you to fully absorb this Niagara (or possibly Viagra) of truth and illumination you must take a page out of Emily's book and read it out loud. I have no doubt this will give you the strongest of urges to strip naked and run between the Christmas shoppers of Amsterdam, while shouting it out loud; I say: Don't fight this urge---go for it, and we can only hope you're been working out! Merry Christmas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XMpTlGVjbMfeature=related From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:10:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Third Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula An Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula Dear Ravi, I have been intending to write this third open letter to you for some time now, but something has balked me. I have entertained some interesting and seemingly meaningful theories, intuitions about you—in the aim of catching at what you are all about—but none of them has made it. And I am asking myself the question: Why is it taking you so long, Robin, to write back to Ravi, and to pursue this investigation to its end: Who is Ravi Chivukula and what is he all about? I have decided not to proceed with any fixed idea or specific orientation; I am just, as it were, going to try to find out where to go with this—addressing Ravi Chivukula—as I enter into the act: writing again to Ravi Chivukula: by my account my 5th analysis. This one better be better than the first four. So, here goes: I think you are in possession of a quite extraordinary gift, Ravi. What is that gift? a certain spontaneous audacity and unconditioned perceptiveness which can rock the psyche of anyone not prepared to be ambushed by 'the truth'. What you say about certain people is not, in my estimation, the whole truth; not nearly so. But it certainly is *the* truth that is the key to seeing how they are conducting their lives within a certain fixed mode which insulates them from reality and keeps them from a certain kind of self-knowledge. I think, for the most part, they are unconscious of their defensiveness in the face of your radical ambushes of their boundaries and their privatized sense of selfhood. But the accuracy—if I may judge by the uncontrollable responses—of your violent and unasked for apercus is indisputable: there is altogether too much of The lady doth protest too much to believe that you are off in your unorthodox and unanticipated transgressions. When you go at someone in your inimitable way, a person has no means, really, of refuting you: I notice this, because although you obviously generate tremendous reaction and retaliation, I never have sensed that any given individual is actually honestly and innocently experiencing that you are wrong where you have struck them where they are most vulnerable (vulnerable here means some susceptibility to self-deception, where they feel they have to keep reality at bay). So, the first thing I need to make clear is that, for all your antics and drama and outrageousness—and *transgressiveness*—you are, after all, from where you say these things about people, totally quiescent and composed inside of you: the proverbially eye of the hurricane. Of course people are compelled (how could they not be?) to diagnose you as pathological, as frail, as unstable—and certainly from what I gather from your past, they have some justifiable basis to proceed under this assumption;—however, when it really comes down to refuting you, of facing you, of taking you on where you are coming from, they utterly fail. At least this is the impression I have taken away from this most recent episode, which led to your ostracism and opprobrium. There was very much a vigilante mind-set here at FFL in the attempt to shut you up. Not that you had not violated the first person ontology of each of your victims; of course you had. That was your intention. But was that violation a violation of the truth, of the the actual integrity of that person? I think not, even as I would never consider doing what you did; and I wonder in your inspiration to do it what purpose it fulfilled. After all, merely telling the truth about someone, what good can that do unless there is some remedial principle that is offered at the same time? But I suppose that is not in your 'dharma' [:-)]. I could not, however, fail to notice the gracious and sincere way in which you apologized to certain persons whom you had sabotaged: and the thing is you *meant* it. But this was not in the end an apology based upon contradicting what you had said to these various persons; it was a sensitivity to how you had hurt them, offended them, caused them grief. And the very fact that you would apologize, it seems to me, is even more evidence of the balance of your personality—appearances to the contrary. To have said the things you said to these people—and meant them;
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry
From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:42:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: snip In the following five scenes, which ones show the talent of a writer, and which show the talent of a choreographer? authfriend jst...@panix.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVax8051zZkfeature=related This isn't what you're after, but I had an interesting experience with this one (from Casino Royale). Normally action sequences like this bore me silly, and I almost turned it off after the first minute. But then something grabbed me, and it took me another 30 seconds or so to figure it out: the product of the choreography plus the editing made the sequence *visually musical* in a way I don't ever recall seeing in a film (not talking about the audio track). Presumably the choreography came first and was turned into music by the editing, unlike with a dance composition, where the choreography is usually done to fit the music. But a really brilliant collaboration between the director and the editor (I assume that's what I was seeing, anyway; if I'm wrong, educate me, please. Cinematography too, I guess.) BP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXjbI3kRus Barry, I apologize that this post is not more about *you*; its mostly a bank shot for Judy, I'm sure you'll agree she brought up a number of interesting points. I'll be back soon, so in the meantime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT9EXNhV-gkfeature=related Judy, What makes the Casino Royale scene work for me is the juxtaposition of the physical styles of Bond and the gentleman he's chasing; Bond is comedic in his clumsiness, whereas the man he's pursuing has the elegance of a Cirque Soleil headliner. The escalation of the action (you use a gun, I use an earthmover) helps too. I agree with you about the way their moves are choreographed; to answer your question, the choreography starts with a collaboration between the art director, the DP, and director, and ends with a collaboration between the director, composer, and editor. IMO, editors are, in effect, the second director; some producers think of them as their safety net and protection against the artistic excesses of the director; this mentality has lead to some real disasters in Hollywood. You're correct, in an action film, in the genre I as comparing, the music comes after the steps, and sequences, in comparison to a musical where the music comes before the choreography. My original point was that many espionage thrillers are *action* films with flat characters, and relatively thin narratives; much of the time what is appealing to us is the choreographed *ride* rather than the story; I was comparing this type of action film, in the same genre, with the fully rounded anti-hero’s, in a le Carre or Graham Greene story (The Third Man), where the protagonist is like us, and much of what the main character is seeking is communicated through subtext, and happens in the characters internal world, and is open to interpretation. There are good films in both types, but one is more like ride at the fair, where the other is more like a puzzle, that can keep coming back to us until we resolve it in some way (IMO, a bit like life). I brought this up because our intrepid film reviewer seems to have an allergy to musical theatre, which I find a little odd, for a numbers of reasons; first, as a martial arts practitioner, I'm surprised that he apparently can't see the musicality, like you did, in the Casino Royale scene; and secondly, even with work he praises, like Pulp Fiction', he doesn't seem to perceive the underlying operatic quality of Quentin Tarantino's stylized violence (I guess he missed A Clockwork Orange). My impression is that he uses Don Siegel and Dirty Harry as kind of a gold standard to compare everything to, violence, melodrama, with a pinch of humor, and he thinks we have the next .Conversation. I believe; to harvest what's on offer in the spy genre, it's important to understand the choreography, and it's vital to understand the difference between a stereotype like Bond and a fully round character like Smiley. The basic theme of all espionage is *betrayal*, and to really drill down on that theme you need round characters that are human and frail, like we are, and demonstrate an inner landscape. Greene, le Carre and Fleming were all professional spy's; the first two gave their audiences access to the humanity of intelligence professionals, Fleming, on the other hand, created a comic book super hero, and as much as I love the character Jason Bourne, he is closer to Bond, and no where near Smiley. For the edification of our house reviewer, and Steve, possibly this link will help them understand what you saw right away: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OxQ-2gR1DU In case that is not enough
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry
From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:42:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: snip In the following five scenes, which ones show the talent of a writer, and which show the talent of a choreographer? authfriend jst...@panix.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVax8051zZkfeature=related This isn't what you're after, but I had an interesting experience with this one (from Casino Royale). Normally action sequences like this bore me silly, and I almost turned it off after the first minute. But then something grabbed me, and it took me another 30 seconds or so to figure it out: the product of the choreography plus the editing made the sequence *visually musical* in a way I don't ever recall seeing in a film (not talking about the audio track). Presumably the choreography came first and was turned into music by the editing, unlike with a dance composition, where the choreography is usually done to fit the music. But a really brilliant collaboration between the director and the editor (I assume that's what I was seeing, anyway; if I'm wrong, educate me, please. Cinematography too, I guess.) BP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXjbI3kRus Barry, I apologize that this post is not more about *you*; its mostly a bank shot for Judy, I'm sure you'll agree she brought up a number of interesting points. I'll be back soon, so in the meantime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT9EXNhV-gkfeature=related Judy, What makes the Casino Royale scene work for me is the juxtaposition of the physical styles of Bond and the gentleman he's chasing; Bond is comedic in his clumsiness, whereas the man he's pursuing has the elegance of a Cirque Soleil headliner. The escalation of the action (you use a gun, I use an earthmover) helps too. I agree with you about the way their moves are choreographed; to answer your question, the choreography starts with a collaboration between the art director, the DP, and director, and ends with a collaboration between the director, composer, and editor. IMO, editors are, in effect, the second director; some producers think of them as their safety net and protection against the artistic excesses of the director; this mentality has lead to some real disasters in Hollywood. You're correct, in an action film, in the genre I as comparing, the music comes after the steps, and sequences, in comparison to a musical where the music comes before the choreography. My original point was that many espionage thrillers are *action* films with flat characters, and relatively thin narratives; much of the time what is appealing to us is the choreographed *ride* rather than the story; I was comparing this type of action film, in the same genre, with the fully rounded anti-hero’s, in a le Carre or Graham Greene story (The Third Man), where the protagonist is like us, and much of what the main character is seeking is communicated through subtext, and happens in the characters internal world, and is open to interpretation. There are good films in both types, but one is more like ride at the fair, where the other is more like a puzzle, that can keep coming back to us until we resolve it in some way (IMO, a bit like life). I brought this up because our intrepid film reviewer seems to have an allergy to musical theater, which I find a little odd, for a numbers of reasons; first, as a martial arts practitioner, I'm surprised that he apparently can't see the musicality, like you did, in the Casino Royale scene; and secondly, even with work he praises, like Pulp Fiction', he doesn't seem to perceive the underlying operatic quality of Quentin Tarantino's stylized violence (I guess he missed A Clockwork Orange). My impression is that he uses Don Siegel and Dirty Harry as kind of a gold standard to compare everything to, violence, melodrama, with a pinch of humor, and he thinks we have the next .Conversation. I believe; to harvest what's on offer in the spy genre, it's important to understand the choreography, and it's vital to understand the difference between a stereotype like Bond and a fully round character like Smiley. The basic theme of all espionage is *betrayal*, and to really drill down on that theme you need round characters that are human and frail, like we are, and demonstrate an inner landscape. Greene, le Carre and Fleming were all professional spy's; the first two gave their audiences access to the humanity of intelligence professionals, Fleming, on the other hand, created a comic book super hero, and as much as I love the character Jason Bourne, he is closer to Bond, and no where near Smiley. For the edification of our house reviewer, and Steve, possibly this link will help them understand what you saw right away: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OxQ-2gR1DU In case that is not enough
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry (Emily)
real self is packed away) for my Graham Greene and hit the nearest used bookstore to look for le Carre. I remember I read The Quiet American and The End of the Affair but the story details escape me. ***BP: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2011/12/12/111212crat_atlarge_lane EMILY: I'm settling with corporate america so this will be my last post on that topic. It is all a game, anyway..geez. I was definitely in the trenches at varying levels...didn't have that special skill set you've got - wasn't one of the chosen ones. Didn't get a membership to the cigar bar on the 34th floor of the Columbia Tower. In closing on that topic, however, I'm going to say that I executed some beautiful plays along the way - none quite worthy enough to get written up in a novel, but maybe pretty close :). It wasn't all bad, I loved what I did for a long time and I was very good at it. I was a star for a short while. Work always came first, I missed out on a lot. The kids learned how to bake cookies at their friend's houses. ***BP: Far be it from me to draw you back into your commercial experiences; do you mentor, its been my experience that mentoring is one of the best antidotes for the corporate PTSD. I agree with you about it being a game, that's what always attracted me to it. Certainly aptitudes, like a facility for numbers, procedures, and systems, can help to get started, but, IMO, you have to be competitive to be any good at it---in my experience, business is sports for the physically lazy. EMILY: I've decided not to wallow in being a victim, although I am having PTSD responses still. Woke up in a cold sweat the other morning after dreaming of a lynching (meeting), one of the worst - where I took a big hit for my incompetent boss. They couldn't go after him, so they went after me. How pathetic, and he was at the table, too scared to stand up for me. They underestimated me. I underestimated me. I used to go all the way to the mat, again and again, as necessary. No exceptions. Rough on the nervous system. Ah well, I gave a few people and a few companies a real run for their money and delivered the goods at the same time. The clients depended on me. The lawyers loved me. ***BP: IMO, The Prince should be required reading for executives, as a general rule there is an inverse relationship between trust, and the liquidity of a companies equity. In other words, in business, try to be democratic, distrust everyone equally. These days, the only metric I use for judging the success of of a commercial activity is whether it is creating employment or skills training, as much as I love negotiating, the transaction side of it seems no more important then a football game, and I am not talking the finals. EMILY: I should be proud of myself. In general, I had a lot of fun, a lot of success and worked on some great projects. I learned so much. I met my closest friend at my first company. That's worth it all. I have been having a very hard time forgiving myself for falling apart so completely the last couple of years. That Dante picture Yifu posted barely scratches the surface. But, I'm going to listen to a little Joan and give it up...it's really O.K. Thank you so much for helping me through this. The rest of my recovery for lingering PTSD will be off-forum. ***BP: Yes you should, watching you around this gin joint I'd say you were not only good, but fun to work with. EMILY: This is one of my favorites of hers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oag3I4VRXyMfeature=related ***BP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjydOI4MEIw EMILY: Oh yeah, and I'll have that cigar now :). http://www.flickr.com/photos/71633812@N08/6468519363/in/photostream/ ***BP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKC0PPZbfE8 From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 2:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com snip I've been spending my birthday and the day leading up to it, interestingly enough, exploring one of the most awesome paens to the joys of old age ever, the BBC versions of John Le Carre's Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and Smiley's People. Sir Alec Guinness was several years older than moi when he made the latter, and yet he's by far the most intelligent and (quietly) dynamic spy I can think of in the cinema. James Bond may have gotten more pussy, but George Smiley could have out- thought him with one lobe of his brain tied behind his back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM ***BP: Barry, you might also mention that what makes the performance so exceptional, is that Guinness, like Peter Egan in A Perfect Spy, and unlike Connery in The Russia House, does not get in the way of the writing, which is what makes this series so
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV yawns, plus TV kudos
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com snip I agree. Interestingly, hearkening back to the former friend I've mentioned recently, who was the head of a mental institution, one one of the things he mentioned to me over coffee was that he had to continually warn his staff at the institution about the communicable charisma of patients suffering from certain disorders. In other words, he had to warn them not to get too close, because some of the mindstates they were dealing with were infectious, and they might be picking up insanity from their charges, instead of them picking up sanity from them. I think this was good advice. ***BP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UqEhUm2B_8 Barry, before we get started, I need to mention a few things; first, kudos for getting yawn into your review; I believe an inability to understand irony is no barrier to being ironic. And secondly, I'm wondering if ZZ would consider this post of yours a form of Moonie love bombing; what else should I call a gift like this? Although I'm concerned this *friend* of yours seems to have slipped onto a former list; I think most of us would agree, a psychiatrist (one would assume he's attained that qualification if he's running a mental hospital) that thinks mental illness is infectious, is a keeper. I mean we all know many of them think that way, but to get one to actually say it, out loud, that's impressive. I'm just wondering if you can give us a few more specifics; for example did he mean insanity is infectious like laughter, or more like venereal disease, did he have to sleep with the patients or just have a good laugh with them? Is it something you pick up from kissing or can you get it from a toilet seat? The possibilities seem endless; I mean, why stop there, if mental illness is infectious, or, if you prefer, contagious, why can't you pick it up over the Internet, or more to the point on a forum like FFL? And if that's the case, am I in danger or are you? And since it seems like we will be skating in hell before you find something else to do, it's more likely I'm the vulnerable one. OMG, you see what I mean; I hope the hell you have not done a Barry on this guy, and you're still able to get in touch with him, because I think I speak for a number of us, when I say: We have some questions. Do I also understand correctly that one of your psychiatrists concerns is infection from charisma, or to put it another way from people with an unnatural amount of attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others, as in: he enchanted guests with his charisma? Is it safe to say you're not infected? Barry, this has been a huge help for me, it explains something I've been wondering about; I've wondered why you constantly use sexual imagery when describing Maharishi. Is this a way to fight off possible infections? Although, I guess, and, I don't want to oversimplify here, it's also possible that you just need to get laid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZucJAkzCNq8 PS: I hope you're as excited as I am about getting to our other posts concerning choreography, and all kinds of other fun stuff, but before I nod off, you really don't think that 'Pulp Fiction' wasn't musical theater do you? BTW, you might want to look up what Mandy Patinkin does for a living. More soon!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Barry
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com snip I've been spending my birthday and the day leading up to it, interestingly enough, exploring one of the most awesome paens to the joys of old age ever, the BBC versions of John Le Carre's Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and Smiley's People. Sir Alec Guinness was several years older than moi when he made the latter, and yet he's by far the most intelligent and (quietly) dynamic spy I can think of in the cinema. James Bond may have gotten more pussy, but George Smiley could have out- thought him with one lobe of his brain tied behind his back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM ***BP: Barry, you might also mention that what makes the performance so exceptional, is that Guinness, like Peter Egan in A Perfect Spy, and unlike Connery in The Russia House, does not get in the way of the writing, which is what makes this series so watchable; in his greatness, Guinness was the kind of actor that knew he must serve the writing, that shows le Carre's talent for creating the most compelling anti-hero's in this genre; his only real competition was Graham Greene. Smiley, like Magnus Pym in A Perfect Spy, could so easily be boring, but he is anything but boring, and it's not his exceptional intelligence that makes him compelling, it's his flaws, and his humanity; unlike Bond, George Smiley is just like us, with all our messy limitations. If your readers are interested in Sir Alex Guinness you might want to direct them to his relationship with David Lean; Lean's relationship with Guinness was abusive at best, but the two of them brought out each other's best work. Lean described Guinness as his favorite canvas to paint on, and Guinness didn't disagree; unlike what your review implies about you, Guinness understood that writers, not actors, create characters. You could also suggest to your audience that they read the novels and then compare Guinness in Tinker Tailor..., and Smiley's People, to Egan in Perfect Spy, to Ralph Fiennes in The Constant Gardener . All four are brilliant, but in the first three you have a great actor serving the writer, but in the fourth you have a great actor and writer serving a great director. I'm looking forward to seeing the re make of Ticker Tailor next week; as much as I love Gary Oldman, I'm not optimistic. I believe it would have been a much better investment to produce The Honorable School Boy, the third book of the Karla Trilogy that BBC never produced due to the relative costs of shooting in Asia. IMO, its as good as the other two books, and as someone who lived for a number of years, where it takes place, I look forward it being produced as a film. Creating comic book hero's, like Bond or Jason Bourne is relatively easy compared to what le Carre does; IMO, comparing le Carre to Ian Fleming is a bit lazy, like comparing a spitball to getting away with murder, one makes some noise, the other engages the mind, like a chess game. What makes le Carre's stand apart in his genre is that he creates compelling characters, and lets them create the plot; pretty much the opposite of what is normally done in most over plotted spy novels. In the following five scenes, which ones show the talent of a writer, and which show the talent of a choreographer? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVax8051zZkfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYrsn_JzfIM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9GWPiDl0a8feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aco15ScXCwA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwaxFAC6rzkfeature=relmfu PS: You might want to let your buddy Vaj know that he is not helping your case that you don't read the posts of those on your * No Fly list;-) *. Like Vaj, I know nothing about SC; I liked the quote, and thought the fact he was a body builder would appeal to a martial arts expert like yourself, frankly, the fact he could have been Rama's guru was just gravy; that said, you could suggest to Vaj that if he's trying to establish his pedigree, he might want to delete the reference hotlinks from his Wikipedia cut and pastes. I have to admit that Vaj is the one poster on FFL that I did not really follow till MZ started slumming with him; please don't get me wrong, I have nothing against making things up, I think I've mentioned, I enjoy reading people that make things up, as long as they don't bore the hell out of everyone (as I'm sure you know, manuals can do that). The reason I stopped reading Vaj was that in the beginning I found him quite novel; most of us know initiators that, after finding success in other fields, pretend they were never initiators, I know a few myself, but Vaj is the only person I've ever come across that pretends he *was* an initiator. I certainly found that hilarious when I first read it, but after a month or two it got a bit, you know, tired. I must state categorically that the only guru for me is his Holiness Maharishi
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Christmas haiku from Whole Foods...
Happy Birthday Barry, am I correct, you've chosen *tolerance* as the theme for this very special day? Let us try to know the spiritual significance of tolerance. Tolerance is not conscious submission to a superior power. Real tolerance is compassion in disguise. When we have real tolerance, the seeker in us sees the expansion of his loving heart, his illumining soul and his fulfilling goal. -Sri Chinmoy From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 1:33:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Christmas haiku from Whole Foods... ...that reminded me of Fairfield Life: 'Tis the season to have your life choices mocked at the dinner table. Passive aggressive comments , decades old grudges, with festive cheese spread.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeShHAZk3to Barry, Sorry to sneak up on you like this, I don't mean to startle you; I'd hate to see you react with one of those martial art moves and hurt the waitress in your coffee shop. I know, I know, I'm supposed to be in purgatory; I've been given a day pass, which could well be extended to a week---if I limit my posting to responding to your posts. And although Alex was gracious enough to allow me to re subscribe (he's a bigger man than I am), he did not increase my posts from 50 for the week; I'm sure this is a disappointment to you, since I will be limited to 50 posts, either celebrating or asking for clarification, on your *crazy wisdom*. No need to thank me, thank the angel, who granted me the day pass, who guards the rather long line, I'm a part of, in purgatory. Don't get me wrong, the cue is a good deal shorter since Ravi arrived (to help me, as he does not *have* to be here), and started oiling some wheels; he arrived with a sack of skulls, and what looks like Steve's and Curtis's privates, which I'm surprised are getting top dollar. Of course, being limited to exchanging posts with you does not mean that I can't employ one of your tried and true techniques---sending nasty messages, to someone on your *list*, through Curtis---to let all my other friends on FFL know I'm still thinking of them. And while we're on the topic of Curtis, please give him my sincere apologies for calling him a twerp, and class president, I never imagined it would cause him such pain, comparing it to some of the sharing (much from your good self) that goes on around here. Hell (pun intended), the reason I'm in purgatory is that Judy was kind enough to point out that I was a Jihadist and hypocrite, and that I was behaving with ill-will, if not malice, toward Alex and RD, and, as if that was not enough, implied I was behaving like you. And according to Steve, that was just a 2 out of a 9 that Judy could have let me have it with. Now, I know I'm a hypocrite and passive aggressive (I've never denied the former, and, I've stated, on more than one occasion, that I believe that the latter is true of all aggression, sorry Oprah, on a forum like FFL. Also, I have no problem with the ill-will, malice and/ or the Jihadist labels; as I've stated on many occasions, I'm here for whatever help I can get with my fiction, and frankly I think the one thing you can't stylize out of fiction (even if you write manuals) is *conflict*; so, as I'm sure you can appreciate, the arrow that struck deep in my cold cold heart, was the possibility that I might be behaving like you, and that is why I'm in purgatory till I figure out what can be done to save my immortal soul. On a brighter note, it's rumored that Raja Ravi Yogi (I like to call him *Himself* for short) will soon be launching a channel on youtube; working title: The Raja Knowledge Net; that Works, and, in preparation for this celestial event, I've decided that Himself needs a *lingam* worthy of his place in the pantheon. Now, of course, Himself is far too humble to name a lingam after himself, he would find The Ravi Lingam, a bit tacky so in his truly infinite wisdom he has decided to call it frankie; please don't ask me what that means, after all, I've never been enlightened although I am hoping to pick up some darshan for my efforts. So please, visit this link; Himself is dedicating the frankie to all those souls in their 50's and 60's that have found their consciousness in a state of constipation and he feels frankie is just the ticket for loosen things up, and encourages you to use the zoom and loupe functions on the frankie image to fully appreciate the possibilities for frankie to deal with consciousness constipation. http://www.farlang.com/profiles/matt-casteen/product.2011-02-22.2962915257 Well Barry, as always, it's been a slice, but I need to move on as I have a whole week of your past posts to enjoy, and share my thoughts on; before I go, a couple of housekeeping items. Steve, I hope you know how much I love you, and I'm sincerely sorry about my shot about the, new found, length of your sentences; besides the wife, the daughter, and of course---the Jack Russell, there is no one I'm looking forward to spending Christmas with as much as you. So to explain my feelings, this song is for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RmgiSL1djgfeature=related Emily, in a past life I spent a couple of seasons in Idar-Oberstein; one of the many things the wife, and I share is a passion for fine jewelry, her for the finished work, me for the loose stones (I'm particularly drawn to the internal world of colored stones, but that’s for another post); we thought since the three of us share a delight in the work of Marc Chagall you might also enjoy this clip at the Van Cleef and Arpels site, click on the film clip icon in the lower left hand corner of the image.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com snip Much more eloquent than my simple Whatever, while conveying the same sentiment. But it led to you creating and posting the perfect metaphor for what it's like to deal with this shit, so the virus may have been dharmic. ***BP: Barry, I have no doubt Curtis appreciates your support, but I'm thinking, if at a time like this, he isn't wondering: With friends like you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN69_DFySJAfeature=fvsr
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi's unconditional apology to raunchydog
Judy, I've been expecting you to box my ears for my exchanges with RD, I can live with that; I respect you too much to get into an argument about it, and you might be right that I was over the line with RD, I can also live with that. That said, I did not say Ravi was performing in May/June 2010, what I said to RD, about Ravi being a performing artist (which she knows): ***BP1: I think you're full of it; reread your posts to Robin. I'll let you in on a little secret, don't tell anyone else; Ravi is an performance artist, and some day you'll be able to tell people you knew him: back in the day. And BTW, watch your language, Steve's wife might be lurking. You're absolutely entitled to our opinions on RD, I hope my daughter grows up to have the kind of integrity I've grown to understand you have; but I see no light between the hypocrisy of RD, HH, and Bubbles during this weeks scapegoating (sic) of Ravi. I thought Bubbles and his Vagueness going after Gemma Cowhig was the most disgusting thing I'd seen on FFL, till I watched RD and her cohorts go after Ravi; she's been concerned for Ravi (at anytime), yeah right. And the breathtaking graciousness of her acceptance of Ravi's apology has not lead me to regret anything I posted to her. I think she has more in common with HH and Bubbles than some seem to think. From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:42:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi's unconditional apology to raunchydog --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: I didn't get the July message until you sent it to me today. So it wasn't a hoax after all? He really was crazy for awhile? He really wasn't faking it? Right. Sorry, my bad. He said he admitted himself to a psychiatric hospital but didn't go. What was that about? Not sure; he'll have to explain that one. Seems to me it was a response to our being so worried about him, but what he intended to accomplish by it, I don't know. He told Bob it was a surprise to him that I thought he was suicidal. I thought his denial meant that it was all a big act. If it was an act, he fooled you. If it wasn't an act, he didn't fool you. Yeah, it wasn't an act. I think he understands now where you got the idea. It puts me in quite a quandary because I got a lot of flack from Bob for telling Robin about Ravi's meltdown last year. Bob has been *way* out of line in his posts to you, IMHO. When Bob told me Ravi was a performance artist, I took that to mean Ravi's meltdown last year was all a hoax. Now you tell me it wasn't an act. Fuck it. I'm sorry for stepping into Ravi's shit. It's understandable that you got confused. If Bob thinks Ravi's meltdown last year was just a performance, *he's* confused. I'm sorry for all the bullshit on all sides of the story. Fuck it. Seems to me Ravi is sorry too and is doing his best to clarify, apologize, and make amends. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: snip I found the thread for May 2010, by searching Rick's posts. I read a few of them just enough to know you even fooled Judy, which is really quite an accomplishment. The thread starts here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/247869 Excuse me, in what sense did Ravi fool me, raunchy? He's acknowledged that he was *psychotic* during those few days: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/282658 We were right to be concerned. He wasn't crying wolf, he was genuinely freaking out. But he did not, to the best of my recollection, ever actually threaten suicide. The worst of those posts are now gone from the archive, by the way (both Yahoo's and the Mail Archive). Either Ravi or one of the moderators deleted them at some point. One of the reasons I'm pretty confident he didn't threaten suicide was that I emailed Rick privately during that time to express my concerns, and I called Rick's attention to Ravi's having mentioned several times the possibility of dying. *I* said I thought that might indicate he was thinking of suicide, but it wasn't an explicit threat. He was in such psychic turmoil it may well have seemed to him that he was dying. He wasn't trying to fool anybody that he was in a bad way. He *was* in a bad way. Thank God he came through it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fascinating Facts About Smiles
Just when I thought something as simple and life affirming as a human smile might be safe from your rather odd obsession with all things TMO, you again prove me a wrong. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:19:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fascinating Facts About Smiles From one of the TED talks, a series of amazing scientific facts about the human smile. Did you know that your smile can predict how long you live, or the length and happiness of your marriage? Did you know that one smile produces the same level of brain pleasure center feel good activity as 2000 bars of chocolate? And smiling doesn't make you fat. :-) What these facts suggest to me is that adding a few smiles to your day will probably do more to expand the level of happiness in the world -- both yours and others -- than any amount of buttbouncing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9cGdRNMdQQ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Painting with light
In case anyone is under the mistaken impression that Bubbles had an original thought; you might want to check out: Painting With Light by John Alton. http://www.amazon.com/Painting-Light-John-Alton/dp/0520089499 John Alton was one of the greatest cinematographers that ever lived, and no doubt Bubbles came across his book when he was crashing at those screenwriters place in Malibu. For *as good* a book on film editing, I recommend Walter Murch: In the Blink of an Eye. No doubt Bubbles will be quoting soon, if he hasn't already. http://www.amazon.com/Blink-Eye-Revised-2nd/dp/1879505622 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Murch From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:21:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Painting with light Combine ultralong exposures with light wands and LEDs and other high-tech light sources, and you've got yerself a new kind of photography. And it doesn't hurt if you can use Stonehenge as your photo backdrop. *Stunning* photos: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/12/09/stonehenge-light-show_n_1138928.html?ref=uk#s531798 I don't know if you've ever been to Stonehenge, but it's a bit of a letdown. They won't let you into the place. You have to peer at it -- 50 feet away -- over a fence. They had to end people being able to walk up and touch the stones because of wear and vandalism. But one of these photographers got permission to shoot his light art photos there. Lucky him. Here's one of my favorite stonehenge photos, from the days before they put up the fence:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dulcie Dee artwork ( Ravi)
Emily, Stunning; I see what you mean by layers---among other things, its like an offering to Shiva's Lingam; I love the Eiffel tower in the lower right although the skyline behind it reminds me more of the Upper East side from Central Park. It reminds me a bit of Georgia O'Keeffe and Marc Chagall who I always felt had a quality of religious worship to their work as well (Judaism in MC's case and nature in GO's case). Thank you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7-6uECx3DEfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyMIvUE9xqUfeature=related From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 5:10:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Dulcie Dee artwork ( Ravi) Ravi, fyi, I studied this painting all week. YMMV. http://www.flickr.com/photos/71633812@N08/6468519451 In an email, Dulcie Dee announced that in her next series of paintings, she will “glorify” the penis. Known for her provocative erotic art – she has a collage collection called the ‘foreplay series’ and another where she unrobes and fetishizes the Geisha — Dulcie’s penis collection has been submitted to the Paris Erotic Museum. “I know the American market is very prude and conservative,” said Dulcie. “Penises are somehow a taboo thing, whereas women’s breasts aren’t.” Born in New York to a prominent Filipino-Chinese family engaged in banking, Dulcie was raised in Manila where her Chinese roots are. She earned a bachelor’s degree in fine arts from the University of the Philippines, got her master’s from the Academy of Art University in San Francisco and returned to New York to find work. She worked as designer for ad agencies, but always found time to be creatively expressive. Her paintings have appeared in the U.S. and internationally, including the Alameda Historical Museum in California, the FusionArts Museum in New York, and the Museum of the Americas in Miami. She is represented by Monkdogz Urban Art Gallery in Chelsea. Her deep interest in Japanese ‘shunga’ (erotic art) is evident in her Geisha series and now her penis art. Unveiled for the first time are some of Dulcie’s sweet painted penises. If you looked long enough – and I did – the penis dissolves into something else. Especially where the shaft is hidden behind all the artistic graffiti, it appears like a manicured finger, a slithering snake or truffle salami aged in its casing. – Cristina DC Pastor FilAm Magazine
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Ravi
http://goodinaroom.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7S6Z6F4ceg From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 5:13:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Dear Ravi Dear Ravi: I haven't read your posts yet, but because I expended a fair amount of energy on you last week and couldn't post, I am going to send this. Re: raunchydog and your posts last weekend. In fact, I thrashed pretty hard about it all while I was off, and I will say, as usual, the gamut of my thoughts and emotions showed up on the forum, as the responses flowed in over the week. I witnessed the many faces of my reality boomerang again and again for reprocessing. I appreciate that about this forum. 1) As a woman, my initial, instinctual reaction was worry for raunchydog because of what presented itself as an extremely personal and vitriolic response by you. In no way does it elicit a single thought in my head that we should apply standards or censorship to this forum or that you should leave. I am unequivocally and completely against any of that. Nor is it my intention to appear like a sex nazi. I would hate not to be able to appreciate HotBob's new gal over in Britain. I initially missed all the subtext, subterfuge, hypocrisy, symbology, etc. I couldn't figure out what you were trying to say; I was too distracted by how you were trying to say it. You acknowledge that I was raging and went about insulting and humiliating her. Same thing here, I don't tolerate any attacks on the yogi energy, the beloved. Defending your beloved or no, when a male describes explicit sex acts such as you did, in the *personal* and *raging* manner you did, to a female without her consent, he has crossed the line, IMO. I'm not shaming you, btw. Next time, I would suggest you wait 10 seconds before hitting the send button and ask first. Raunchydog, I want to send you a raging angry, sexually explicit email with references to the two of us engaged in fellatio to communicate how hypocritical you seem to me, to defend my beloved, or whatever. Is this O.K. with you? Maybe she'll say Bring it on, Ravi, bring it on. Maybe she won't. I don't believe you can't control yourself. You sent a perfectly calm response back to Robin. You sent a follow-up explanation to Judy, asking for her feedback. You respect the posting limits. You've been sensitive from the beginning to my non-enlightened and sanskrit-challenged self. 2) As a woman, my second reaction was that perhaps you need to do some self-care. I don't know, but it crossed my mind. Raunchydog has acknowledged her piece in the exchange and is clearly capable of using the same power tools everyone else here uses with considerable aplomb. I have no intention of jumping on some lynching bandwagon for either you or her. As witnessed by the forum, it has been opened up for multiple perspectives and other angles to be explored. HotBob was triggered all over the place; I am happy to have been introduced to Lenny Bruce. All ultimately a good thing, IMHO. In my experience, hypocrisy flourishes when ego and judgment prevail. I can find no reason to *judge* or *condemn* you, Ravi, however I retain my right to my female opinion. I absolutely want you to stay. You are such an intelligent and interesting man - and extremely entertaining - you give a lot to this forum and have unique perspectives and I would miss you. Your existence is a big help to me. ~Em P.S. The next time you get that mad, feel free to divert the email in my direction, if you haven't decided that the email should marinate in the Draft box overnight before a possible rewrite later. My response will likely be huh? And that will be it. Or, I'll have to put on my Sting song :) Or, here's a strategysend it to HotBob, the quintessential marketing man. He'll be able to consult with his HR department (wife) and spin it into a fresh perspective for you and the rest of us, alike.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi's unconditional apology to raunchydog
You need a few lessons from HH on taking things out of context. The *point* is, if you had, as you claim, any of the concern for Ravi's welfare you would hardly discuss it on a public forum; on the other hand, you might have contacted Rick, as Judy described she did, rather then becoming part of the pile on; obviously you have an agenda, and that's to get even with Ravi. Feel free to post as much as you like on this, slice and dice my posts as you need to, I'm done; my posts on you, and the whole episode speak for them selves. You're a hypocrite and a passive aggressive one at that. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:35:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi's unconditional apology to raunchydog --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Judy, I've been expecting you to box my ears for my exchanges with RD, I can live with that; I respect you too much to get into an argument about it, and you might be right that I was over the line with RD, I can also live with that. That said, I did not say Ravi was performing in May/June 2010, what I said to RD, about Ravi being a performing artist (which she knows): ***BP1: I think you're full of it; reread your posts to Robin. I'll let you in on a little secret, don't tell anyone else; Ravi is an performance artist, and some day you'll be able to tell people you knew him: back in the day. And BTW, watch your language, Steve's wife might be lurking. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Judy, I've been expecting you to box my ears for my exchanges with RD, I can live with that; I respect you too much to get into an argument about it, and you might be right that I was over the line with RD, I can also live with that. That said, I did not say Ravi was performing in May/June 2010, what I said to RD, about Ravi being a performing artist (which she knows): ***BP1: I think you're full of it; reread your posts to Robin. I'll let you in on a little secret, don't tell anyone else; Ravi is an performance artist, and some day you'll be able to tell people you knew him: back in the day. And BTW, watch your language, Steve's wife might be lurking. Bob, just to refresh your memory, prior to saying Ravi was a performance artist: ***BP: Since most of us didn't know Raja Ravi Yogi was attempting to off himself (including Ravi) the fact that you and the Alex have his back, will make all of us rest much easier. RD: I'm fairly certain it was Ravi who had an emotional meltdown. If it was someone else, I'm truly sorry if I am mistaken. As I recall Ravi's meltdown was soon after Rick interviewed him for BATGAP. If anyone can find a timeline for this, I'd like to see it. Given Ravi's penchant for playing tricks, perhaps he was perfectly fine all along and he was just jerking our chain. If that's the case, he has officially disowned any responsibility for having taken advantage of our natural human response to save his life and has no appreciation for our compassion and willingness to help him in anyway we could. RD: Up until the time you created doubt that Ravi tried to off himself by saying it was a surprise to Ravi, I had believed that people had actually feared for his life. It was a very dramatic event and I felt sorry for Rick that he got caught in the middle of it. Even if Ravi didn't explicitly say, I am going to commit suicide, it sure felt like it. You weren't there at the time so, I'm not clear whether you knew anything about it or if you thought it was an act or if you innocently or intentionally lead me to believe Ravi had faked the whole event. Regardless, you did not dissuade me from suspecting Ravi was faking a meltdown. In fact you enhanced the notion by saying he was a performance artist. Even after I went off on you about it, you allowed me to continue to believe it was a hoax. It wasn't until Judy posted Ravi's July 2010 post did I realize he wasn't faking it. Because of the confusion you created on the issue, I wrote to Ravi saying I had difficulty trusting him or believing anything he said. I even went so far as to say Judy had been taken in by Ravi's hoax. I'm doing my best to make amends with Ravi. I've haven't written an apology to him yet, but I will. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. You're absolutely entitled to our opinions on RD, I hope my daughter grows up to have the kind of integrity I've grown to understand you have; but I see no light between the hypocrisy of RD, HH, and Bubbles during this weeks scapegoating (sic) of Ravi. I thought Bubbles and his Vagueness going after Gemma Cowhig was the most disgusting thing I'd seen on FFL, till I watched RD and her cohorts go after Ravi; she's been concerned for Ravi (at anytime), yeah right. And the breathtaking graciousness of her acceptance of Ravi's apology has
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi's unconditional apology to raunchydog
From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:17:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi's unconditional apology to raunchydog --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: And Bob may have gone over the line in defending me, but it was because of his love for me, trusting I would never have any ill will towards anyone and not because any malice towards Raunchy or Alex. And that should be quite clear in his posts to Alex and Raunchy. authfriend jst...@panix.com He accused them both of hypocrisy. That constitutes ill will on his part, snip if not malice per se, in my book. ***BP: Judy, I meant what I said about you, I think you're an exceptional human being; I also meant what I said about RD, Rick Archer, Alex, Curtis, Bubbles, Steve, Jim, and everyone else that *attempted* to cyber lynch Ravi this week. I know you love words as much as I do, and that you are a lot more careful, then I am, about the ones you use. So if you're right (at this point I don't believe so) that my exchanges to the lady of *de* nile constituted malice per se , I think its time for me to hang it up. This will be my last post, and I wish you nothing but good things. If I ever actually meet Bubbles I promise to let you know if there is any truth to his martial arts claims. Ravi and I will be getting together in Venice and I plan to have him take a snap of me to prove to Cliff Clavin I have a full head of hair. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5evKY5n0GMfeature=related The others he accused of hypocrisy--Curtis et al.--deserved it; raunchy and Alex didn't. They lashed out at you because you attacked them without provocation, from their perspective, but they also criticize Barry and Vaj when they get out of line, unlike Curtis and Rick and others. I have to acknowledge something: I went back and looked again at some of my posts, and toward the end I *did* refer to your having made suicide threats. I think by that time I had convinced myself you were suicidal and turned that in my mind into your having made threats when you hadn't. That wasn't the thread raunchy referenced in her recent post, but if she assumed I said you had made suicide threats, she'd have been correct. On Dec 10, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: To add - Bob wasn't even there in May 2010 and he didn't read all my emails because I had them deleted here by Rick and on the mail archive because it contained lot of personal references to others including my ex. He could have come to different conclusions if he had all this information. So it's purely hypothetical to judge Bob on this account. Thank you, Ravi On Dec 10, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Dear Judy, raunchy, I wouldn't judge Bob too harshly. There was the performance artist there as well, even as there were serious elements missef by everyone but Judy. My stories with links to Jefferson city mental hospitals were all done to confuse people on this list. I know Steve was hurt by it all because I made up a story on how I was on way to St. Liuis to meet him and ended up in Jefferson City. I have clarified and apologized to Steve, though he may have not been convinced. But Judy, yes I have respected you since you were the only person to detect how I was losing it, I liked the way in which your clear intellect parsed my final emails, detecting my psychosis, which ended being the vehicle through which my body, mind, intellect and ego transitioned and integrated this energy. Yeah sorry for all this bullshit but as hard as it may sound it was not my choice eventhough I participated with total zest. On Dec 10, 2011, at 10:42 AM, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: I didn't get the July message until you sent it to me today. So it wasn't a hoax after all? He really was crazy for awhile? He really wasn't faking it? Right. Sorry, my bad. He said he admitted himself to a psychiatric hospital but didn't go. What was that about? Not sure; he'll have to explain that one. Seems to me it was a response to our being so worried about him, but what he intended to accomplish by it, I don't know. He told Bob it was a surprise to him that I thought he was suicidal. I thought his denial meant that it was all a big act. If it was an act, he fooled you. If it wasn't an act, he didn't fool you. Yeah, it wasn't an act. I think he understands now where you got the idea. It puts me in quite a quandary because I got a lot of flack from Bob for telling Robin about Ravi's meltdown last year. Bob has been *way* out of line in his posts to you, IMHO. When Bob told me Ravi was a performance artist, I took that
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
How refreshing, an honest reaction. I guess calling this a pattern might be just a tad obvious. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 2:55:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: RD Then come to find out the mutherfucker was just jerking our chain. Ha Ha. The joke was on me for caring the son of a bitch tried to off himself. That type of behavior isn't just the worst type of manipulation of human emotion to feel compassion for another human being, it was down right evil. ***BP1: I think you're full of it; reread your posts to Robin. I'll let you in on a little secret, don't tell anyone else; Ravi is an performance artist, and some day you'll be able to tell people you knew him: back in the day. And BTW, watch your language, Steve's wife might be lurking. Ravi is a performance artist? À la Lady GaGa? That's a good one. Got me again. I thought The Existence wrote his script. Now I find out he writes his own material. What a hack. He needs a bigger venue then FFLife. Here's a thought. You could promote him by having him take a dump on your lawn. Then you say, Good Doggie and everyone joins in the hilarity celebrating his brilliance. Good to know you have such high standards for funny.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
RD, What was that u said about lawns? I love old Bubbles, he rarely disappoints; normally he needs a bit of editing to save the audience from hanging themselves, but I think I'll just leave this one *as is* because I can't imagine a post that better illustrates everything that's been said about you and your homeys. And a word to the wise, when you're having some doubts about where you're coming from, take a look around and check out who's agreeing with you. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 3:41:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Ravi is a performance artist? la Lady GaGa? That's a good one. Got me again. I thought The Existence wrote his script. Now I find out he writes his own material. What a hack. He needs a bigger venue then FFLife. Here's a thought. You could promote him by having him take a dump on your lawn. Then you say, Good Doggie and everyone joins in the hilarity celebrating his brilliance. Good to know you have such high standards for funny. Raunchy, I've been trying to stay out of the dump on Ravi thang because, as stated before, I consider him somewhat mentally ill. Have since Day One. This may be an inaccurate assessment on my part, because after all I am not a trained therapist, but it is my honest assessment. He may actually from time to time consider his many flip-flops to be schtick, but his very choice of material suggests to me serious personality disorder. As does his *memory* of what he has claimed in one post versus the next. He'll say outright one day that his whole presentation to Rick of having had an enlightenment experience was a put-on and that he was just taking advan- tage of Rick's naivete, and then the next day claim to be enlightened again. And by far the overriding aspect of his posts is a near-pathological craving for attention, whether positive or negative. This really just isn't something a fully sane person would do IMO. I think long- term TMers are cutting him too much slack because they've seen such behavior around them in TM environments so often over the years that they've come to consider it almost normal, writing it off as either mere eccentricity or unstressing. I don't hold to that view. I don't think he was in any way faking the excesses of his early days on this forum, and how close he was to the ragged edge of insanity or suicide. I think that's a claim he made up afterwards, after the manic episodes had subsided to some extent. I similarly don't think he was faking any of the more recent compulsive lashing out he did at you, or Alex, or others here. It reads to me (now that I've gone back and read some of it) as hypomania, or just plain mania. He gets into a manic state and just dashes off anything that makes sense to his disordered mind in that particular manic state, and then presses Send. I personally don't think it's safe to interact with him, so I have limited such interactions pretty much since the beginning. Others here seem to be taken in by how he appears during his less manic periods, and feel no qualms about either praising him (that is, amplifying his narcissism and thus inflating it) or ragging on him (provoking a hysterical overreaction that we are by now all too familiar with). I don't think it's schtick. I don't think he has any control whatsoever over this acting out of his. And I, for one, am not willing to provoke it by interacting with him personally. I take the same approach when dealing with such behavior that a psychiatrist I once knew took to dealing with patients who had demonstrated similar behavior in the past. If the behavior seems to have cleared up, give them at least a year before you believe it thoroughly. Otherwise they could just be 'laying low' and trying to sucker you back into former patterns that have been proven unproductive. Ravi's one year clock hasn't even *started* ticking for me. If others feel differently, that's their business. Then again, I feel pretty much the same about MZ/Robin (with slightly different pathologies and forms of acting out, of course), so you should either weight or dismiss my theories about Ravi accordingly. Thanks for your mainly common-sense comments on all of this.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com snip Excellent comments, Curtis. You cut right through bullshit and get right to the heart of the matter. I simply can't wait Me, I'm still getting over the shock of learning... Who IS this old man I used to know and work with him back in 70's L.A. More below... ***You two realize, black belt co dependents that you are, when Bubbles dies, Maharishi's life will pass before her eyes, and when Curtis drops his mortal coil, Bubbles challenging Chuck Norris to a wrestling match, will pass before his eyes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
RD, I'm flattered you if you think I'm a member of Ravi's *team*, although I don't think he works that way, this link may better capture who the Raja is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqNmz0y2_tg The Germans thought they were winning at Stalingrad and Ardennes as well; good luck with that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Bulge PS: I'm not the kind of manboy that needs the last word, so go for it. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 8:15:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: RD, What was that u said about lawns? I love old Bubbles, he rarely disappoints; normally he needs a bit of editing to save the audience from hanging themselves, but I think I'll just leave this one *as is* because I can't imagine a post that better illustrates everything that's been said about you and your homeys. And a word to the wise, when you're having some doubts about where you're coming from, take a look around and check out who's agreeing with you. So how many players are on your team, Captain? I'd say you're outnumbered. Sorry, you lose. http://youtu.be/JerVrbLldXw From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 3:41:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Ravi is a performance artist? la Lady GaGa? That's a good one. Got me again. I thought The Existence wrote his script. Now I find out he writes his own material. What a hack. He needs a bigger venue then FFLife. Here's a thought. You could promote him by having him take a dump on your lawn. Then you say, Good Doggie and everyone joins in the hilarity celebrating his brilliance. Good to know you have such high standards for funny. Raunchy, I've been trying to stay out of the dump on Ravi thang because, as stated before, I consider him somewhat mentally ill. Have since Day One. This may be an inaccurate assessment on my part, because after all I am not a trained therapist, but it is my honest assessment. He may actually from time to time consider his many flip-flops to be schtick, but his very choice of material suggests to me serious personality disorder. As does his *memory* of what he has claimed in one post versus the next. He'll say outright one day that his whole presentation to Rick of having had an enlightenment experience was a put-on and that he was just taking advan- tage of Rick's naivete, and then the next day claim to be enlightened again. And by far the overriding aspect of his posts is a near-pathological craving for attention, whether positive or negative. This really just isn't something a fully sane person would do IMO. I think long- term TMers are cutting him too much slack because they've seen such behavior around them in TM environments so often over the years that they've come to consider it almost normal, writing it off as either mere eccentricity or unstressing. I don't hold to that view. I don't think he was in any way faking the excesses of his early days on this forum, and how close he was to the ragged edge of insanity or suicide. I think that's a claim he made up afterwards, after the manic episodes had subsided to some extent. I similarly don't think he was faking any of the more recent compulsive lashing out he did at you, or Alex, or others here. It reads to me (now that I've gone back and read some of it) as hypomania, or just plain mania. He gets into a manic state and just dashes off anything that makes sense to his disordered mind in that particular manic state, and then presses Send. I personally don't think it's safe to interact with him, so I have limited such interactions pretty much since the beginning. Others here seem to be taken in by how he appears during his less manic periods, and feel no qualms about either praising him (that is, amplifying his narcissism and thus inflating it) or ragging on him (provoking a hysterical overreaction that we are by now all too familiar with). I don't think it's schtick. I don't think he has any control whatsoever over this acting out of his. And I, for one, am not willing to provoke it by interacting with him personally. I take the same approach when dealing with such behavior that a psychiatrist I once knew took to dealing with patients who had demonstrated similar behavior in the past. If the behavior seems to have cleared up, give them at least a year before you believe it thoroughly. Otherwise they could just be 'laying low' and trying to sucker you back into former patterns that have been proven unproductive. Ravi's one year clock hasn't even *started* ticking
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
As a gesture of good will. Sal will confirm; shameless exhibitionist that I am; that's me running across the screen at 1:43. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTJHsQWNRrg From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 9:42:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: RD, I'm flattered you if you think I'm a member of Ravi's *team*, although I don't think he works that way, this link may better capture who the Raja is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqNmz0y2_tg Hmmm...just as I thought. Ravi is a fantasy cartoon animated by The Existence and you're his movie mogul, Obie. Enjoy the boobs in bling. http://youtu.be/wDIRKAvkES0 The Germans thought they were winning at Stalingrad and Ardennes as well; good luck with that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Bulge PS: I'm not the kind of manboy that needs the last word, so go for it. War is Hell. My father served under Patton. Peace, out. From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 8:15:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: RD, What was that u said about lawns? I love old Bubbles, he rarely disappoints; normally he needs a bit of editing to save the audience from hanging themselves, but I think I'll just leave this one *as is* because I can't imagine a post that better illustrates everything that's been said about you and your homeys. And a word to the wise, when you're having some doubts about where you're coming from, take a look around and check out who's agreeing with you. So how many players are on your team, Captain? I'd say you're outnumbered. Sorry, you lose. http://youtu.be/JerVrbLldXw From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 3:41:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Ravi is a performance artist? la Lady GaGa? That's a good one. Got me again. I thought The Existence wrote his script. Now I find out he writes his own material. What a hack. He needs a bigger venue then FFLife. Here's a thought. You could promote him by having him take a dump on your lawn. Then you say, Good Doggie and everyone joins in the hilarity celebrating his brilliance. Good to know you have such high standards for funny. Raunchy, I've been trying to stay out of the dump on Ravi thang because, as stated before, I consider him somewhat mentally ill. Have since Day One. This may be an inaccurate assessment on my part, because after all I am not a trained therapist, but it is my honest assessment. He may actually from time to time consider his many flip-flops to be schtick, but his very choice of material suggests to me serious personality disorder. As does his *memory* of what he has claimed in one post versus the next. He'll say outright one day that his whole presentation to Rick of having had an enlightenment experience was a put-on and that he was just taking advan- tage of Rick's naivete, and then the next day claim to be enlightened again. And by far the overriding aspect of his posts is a near-pathological craving for attention, whether positive or negative. This really just isn't something a fully sane person would do IMO. I think long- term TMers are cutting him too much slack because they've seen such behavior around them in TM environments so often over the years that they've come to consider it almost normal, writing it off as either mere eccentricity or unstressing. I don't hold to that view. I don't think he was in any way faking the excesses of his early days on this forum, and how close he was to the ragged edge of insanity or suicide. I think that's a claim he made up afterwards, after the manic episodes had subsided to some extent. I similarly don't think he was faking any of the more recent compulsive lashing out he did at you, or Alex, or others here. It reads to me (now that I've gone back and read some of it) as hypomania, or just plain mania. He gets into a manic state and just dashes off anything that makes sense to his disordered mind in that particular manic state, and then presses Send. I personally don't think it's safe to interact with him, so I have limited such interactions pretty much since the beginning. Others here seem to be taken in by how he appears during his less manic periods, and feel no qualms about either praising him (that is, amplifying his narcissism
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology
From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com snip Americans are what he called the mix-ups and that we would require more purification than Indians to get enlightened ***I can confirm the veracity of this statement.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnagemulucw From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 10:23:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Dear Barry Wright, You make me hopeful that Ravi will somehow demonstrate to those of us in good faith, that the collective judgment of him may not justify its definitiveness. I did follow your analysis of Ravi—impartial and disinterested as it was—up until you brought this in: Then again, I feel pretty much the same way about MZ/Robin (with slightly different pathologies and forms of acting out, of course). Well, then, you can imagine my explosion of emotion and outrage. You mean, Barry, that I evoke in you (in principle) the same reaction, mutatis mutandis, you have to Ravi? You have spent some time here diagnosing Ravi. Would you consider doing the same for me, seeing as how you have determined that I too suffer from a *pathology*? We Canadians are not as proud and confident as you Americans, but that does not mean we don't have *amour propre*. Surely you realize it is only natural for me, Barry, to challenge you on this characterization of me as exhibiting symptoms of mental illness which you attribute to Ravi. But unless and until you do this, I am going to say you are using this controversy about Ravi as the opportunity to retaliate against me for having challenged you so many times to explain, defend, justify your appalling behaviour. How could you resist the temptation, when you see that dear raunchydog, under the stress of answering to one of Ravi's supporters, is thereby placing herself in a position where the meta-politics of this issue suddenly and fortuitously coincide with your own psychological need to strike back at Canada? Whenever one of your critics goes head to head with another one of your critics, you opportunistically seize upon this situation to take one person's side against the other; ingratiating yourself with one of your enemies in the form of coming to their defence; meanwhile disposing of (or at least attempting to dispose) of one of your other critics in this cynical—but helpless to resist—manoeuvre. You walk away from Judy; you walk away from Bob Price; you walk away from whynotnow; you walk away from raunchydog; you walk away from MZ; you walk away from others; you are only willing to take notice of those who have stood up to your abuse if somehow one of them becomes entangled in some dispute with someone else—both of whom have made known their judgment of your malevolence and cowardice. Now raunchydog picked up on one of Vaj's video posts mocking me and someone else; I forget who. She expressed some delight in the humour of that video. And wouldn't you know it: immediately this provided the pretext for you to reinforce raunchydog in her appreciation for this mocking of MZ. Even as I don't believe—this is quite self-serving I realize—Vaj warrants quite this much applause until he ceases this charade of pretending he did TM, knew Maharishi personally, and was an initiator. Now mind you, Barry, it is always possible that someone who is engaged in an extraordinary project of deceit (Walter Mitty-ism) may from time to time say things that are quite extraordinary. I have enjoyed Vaj's posts when they stick to discussing other Eastern traditions. But when he has the temerity to describe his flying experience, when clearly he is making this up, I tend to be suspicious of anything directed against those of us who would make of him an honest human being. Because, as you see, Barry, in posting that video of MZ whoever I was cuddling up to at the time, was attempting to deflect some of the fire away from himself, and by making fun of me he essentially was implicitly questioning my right to bring him to justice. Are you still with me here, Barry? Let us say, for instance, that Judy suddenly and inexplicably turned on the most severe of your critics. Do you see what kind of dilemma that would put you in? Because immediately the tendency would be to praise Judy in order to take advantage of the circumstance whereby she was—after turning on you for so long—going after one of your enemies. Now this is what happened with raunchydog and her dispute with Ravi. I think it only fair, then, Barry, that you do me the courtesy—since you judge Ravi and myself to be pretty much the same—of writing to raunchydog again, only this time providing the kind of thorough and believable analysis of me that you have done of Ravi. What is unreasonable about this request, Barry? Look at it this way: If indeed I am suffering from a pathology that is pretty much the same (in principle) as we have determined—most of us—that Ravi is suffering under, what would prevent you from having some mercy on me by considering this: I don't much like
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hphwfq1wLJs From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 11:34:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi Bob, your bird costume hides your true beauty and athleticism. Lest anyone be deprived of your spectacular physique, I wanted to share videos from your celebrity portfolio with everyone. Let fly! Unfetter your feathers! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ial0-l8jIw http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8873859/Lady-Gaga-Justin-Bieber-and-Coldplay-at-MTV-Europe-Music-Awards.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: As a gesture of good will. Sal will confirm; shameless exhibitionist that I am; that's me running across the screen at 1:43. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTJHsQWNRrg From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 9:42:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: RD, I'm flattered you if you think I'm a member of Ravi's *team*, although I don't think he works that way, this link may better capture who the Raja is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqNmz0y2_tg Hmmm...just as I thought. Ravi is a fantasy cartoon animated by The Existence and you're his movie mogul, Obie. Enjoy the boobs in bling. http://youtu.be/wDIRKAvkES0 The Germans thought they were winning at Stalingrad and Ardennes as well; good luck with that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Bulge PS: I'm not the kind of manboy that needs the last word, so go for it. War is Hell. My father served under Patton. Peace, out. From: raunchydog raunchydog@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 8:15:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: RD, What was that u said about lawns? I love old Bubbles, he rarely disappoints; normally he needs a bit of editing to save the audience from hanging themselves, but I think I'll just leave this one *as is* because I can't imagine a post that better illustrates everything that's been said about you and your homeys. And a word to the wise, when you're having some doubts about where you're coming from, take a look around and check out who's agreeing with you. So how many players are on your team, Captain? I'd say you're outnumbered. Sorry, you lose. http://youtu.be/JerVrbLldXw From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 3:41:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Ravi is a performance artist? la Lady GaGa? That's a good one. Got me again. I thought The Existence wrote his script. Now I find out he writes his own material. What a hack. He needs a bigger venue then FFLife. Here's a thought. You could promote him by having him take a dump on your lawn. Then you say, Good Doggie and everyone joins in the hilarity celebrating his brilliance. Good to know you have such high standards for funny. Raunchy, I've been trying to stay out of the dump on Ravi thang because, as stated before, I consider him somewhat mentally ill. Have since Day One. This may be an inaccurate assessment on my part, because after all I am not a trained therapist, but it is my honest assessment. He may actually from time to time consider his many flip-flops to be schtick, but his very choice of material suggests to me serious personality disorder. As does his *memory* of what he has claimed in one post versus the next. He'll say outright one day that his whole presentation to Rick of having had an enlightenment experience was a put-on and that he was just taking advan- tage of Rick's naivete, and then the next day claim to be enlightened again. And by far the overriding aspect of his posts is a near-pathological craving for attention, whether positive or negative. This really just isn't something a fully sane person would do IMO. I think long- term TMers are cutting him too much slack because they've seen such behavior around them in TM environments so often over the years that they've come to consider it almost normal, writing it off as either mere eccentricity or unstressing. I don't hold to that view. I don't think he was in any way faking the excesses of his early days on this forum, and how close he was to the ragged edge
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How To Dump A Dick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhzNP83GiEsfeature=related From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 11:59:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How To Dump A Dick --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Presented for a laugh, and as a kind of remedial education training video for those who really don't know how to react when they've been dumped, consider this. Amy gets it right...after less than a minute of protest and disbelief, just walk away. http://digg.com/news/offbeat/how_to_dump_a_dick_video In the same educational vein, does this remind you of anyone? http://www.modernman.com/1615-words-of-wisdom-from-a-bonehead/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ravi Yogi's (video) response to Curtis
of HH Gandhi King Curtis to whom he always worshipped. Rick has been asked to shepherd his brethren and extend his vocal approval for Ravi Yogi's ban. Rick's feeling very nervous at the prospect of dealing with Ravi Yogi, wondering the impact this would have to his meteoric rise. He started having second thoughts about his long avowed principles of Intellectual honesty. Jim Whyevennow7 is furiously relying on his Intellectually aroused Enlightened states to bail him out of this tricky scenario, but he was drawing a blank. He is in the worst quandary; though he had always positioned himself above the Church members, he had constant run-ins with them as he yearned for their love, appreciation and trust. He finally had it but was in a tricky situation having watched a man he supported in the past, Ravi Yogi, go berserk in the intensity of his humiliations targeting apparently random Church members, none of whom were his prior tormentors - this was clearly beyond his intellectual powers. Jim starts to hyperventilate as his mind finally starts forming pictures, which he slowly but clearly recognizes to be resembling the perfect demolition of a painstakingly constructed beautiful building clearly missing the foundation. Unbeknownst to the congregation a nondescript man known simply as Agent MaskedZebra, in a long overcoat, wide brimmed hat and dark sunglasses walks out with the favorite cup of coffee from his favorite Starbucks in Toronto to settle down in his favorite chair, in his favorite corner. MaskedZebra unzips his black duffel bag and retrieves the most powerful set of binoculars, the only piece known to the mankind, product perfected and remnant of his glory days, which would enable to witness the gatherings like a hawk. He fondled his binoculars, smiled as he reminisced his interactions with Ravi Yogi, he loved that man. He was going to use his legendary intellectual powers to swoop on the congregation with his analysis, yet another product perfected during his glory days. He finally had a project that enabled him to use his skills which he sorely misses in his self imposed exile as a simple schoolteacher. Ravi Yogi's most raw, prison style humiliation. http://youtu.be/jwTpgTcsjnA From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 7, 2011 10:03:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; the hypocrite slayer) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLb213lak5s Curtis, So nice (I hope you don't mind being called nice; I can't think of a *word* that better captures your posting voice) to have you back posting on FFL, unless your post to RAVI was just a drive by, we were completely adrift without the steadying hand of your moral compass; I do have one housekeeping item though, before we proceed; you and BUBBLES owe me $3.18; that said, I'll let it ride---I now have $3.18 that says yours, Bubbles, and/or one of your ciphers, fingerprints, are all over the email that Rick received, complaining about Ravi's choice of *words*. Do I have this right; you figure Ravi's colorful and entertaining communications should be stopped, at any cost, but anything Bubbles says is AOK in your book; is it me, or is this a rerun? And it's completely all right, in your book, to mock people behind their backs, as long as we don't allow Ravi to do it to their faceseven when he was so obviously provoked. If nothing else, you've proven what a number of us have suspected, for sometime now; that unlike Ravi, you're not cool---as in completely un-cool. In fact, lets not pussy (OMG, does that mean what I think it means) foot around, you're actually a bit of a twerp, aren't you, and I doubt I'm the first to say so; I certainty wouldn't call you a hypocrite, you don't need any help with that handle, and I know I have to be very careful with my choice of *words* around you; we know how some *words* set you off (we'd hate to have to post out again): The Most Disgusting thing I ever read on FFL. But I would be remiss if I didn't point out your shameless attempt at reconstruction by attempting to assassinate Ravi's character, while giving your Bubbles a free pass. Anybody with a brain knows you've been gunning for Ravi because he never bought into your class president shtick. And, of course, you've never forgiven him for not taking your religious worship of your *POV* very seriously: My God, he called you a Buddhist, no less. I used to get a good chuckle at how easy it was to get you, Bubbles, and your ciphers, to line up single file, to avoid wasting ammo; I've now decided---watching the work of a real master like Ravi, I need to get over myself: A bright flash, a loud ka-boom, building's shake and stay standing (without so much as a broken window), and every hypocrite on FFL is sent to kingdom-come by the neutron bomb, formally know as Raja Ravi Yogi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How To Dump A Dick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIB_hD_pf8Y From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 11:59:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How To Dump A Dick --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Presented for a laugh, and as a kind of remedial education training video for those who really don't know how to react when they've been dumped, consider this. Amy gets it right...after less than a minute of protest and disbelief, just walk away. http://digg.com/news/offbeat/how_to_dump_a_dick_video In the same educational vein, does this remind you of anyone? http://www.modernman.com/1615-words-of-wisdom-from-a-bonehead/
