[FairfieldLife] Proposal: Curtis in exchange for Richard
The banning of Richard from FFL was done by Rick for reasons of Richard's behavior toward Curtis. With Curtis now effectively banned from FFL, there is no longer any reason to keep Richard out of FFL. I propose that Richard be allowed back on FFL and removed from FFL2 so that Curtis can feel safe joining FFL2.
[FairfieldLife] To Curtis
Hey again, I seem to have started something when I wrote my little message to you last night. I certainly didn't expect the negative reaction I got for expressing to you some of my thoughts. I sort of skimmed bawee's rather incendiary comments (not sure why he got all flummoxed) but couldn't get past the first post on this but I think it went on a bit with Sal chiming in. Anyway, this place does seem to bring out the 'interesting' in people and I like Buck's post a lot. It was a chance to see him in a way I have yet to have witnessed and his message was a good one. Kindness seems to be one of those things that should be kept ready in one's bag of goodies as one goes about one's day. Kindness is a keeper - it isn't one of those things that goes over the top very often, it sort of sits in the middle of those things we could call good deeds and intentions. It is often not too cloying nor does it seem to slip into the saccharine or overly sentimental. Yes, I will embrace kindness today; Buck has inspired me. Have a good one - inspire the little ones (your students) today with some insight and magic that comes with living and loving art.
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Funnily enough, Fleetwood, lemon cake with vanilla frosting and organic, mango ice cream (-: On Monday, June 30, 2014 4:54 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Happy Birthday, Share, and Curtis! What flavor cake?? I used to get a birthday *pie* - lemon meringue ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, you guys ARE the party! Well, much of the time... (-: On Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth? Happy Birthday! Can we come to the party?
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Sounds perfect!! I had a black truffle cheeseburger yesterday that was amazing - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Funnily enough, Fleetwood, lemon cake with vanilla frosting and organic, mango ice cream (-: On Monday, June 30, 2014 4:54 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Happy Birthday, Share, and Curtis! What flavor cake?? I used to get a birthday *pie* - lemon meringue ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, you guys ARE the party! Well, much of the time... (-: On Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth? Happy Birthday! Can we come to the party?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
Nadi astrology actually is NOT that much different from other techniques. They just ad some supplemental features or shadings. I think some of this stuff develops as crutches for bad astrologers of which there are quite a few. Basically all astrology does is crudely recognize certain patterns that occur in nature. It should be used like a weather report. On 06/30/2014 10:52 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Nadi astrology is fascinating in that it considers the sub-lords of the nakshatra to be more powerful than the placement of the planets themselves for analysing the timing of events. Nonetheless, it's a good technique to use especially when many planets are in dusthanas. How can it be a good technique if it differs from other methods which also claim to be having an effect on human affairs? The planets can't be having a different effect in different systems as they are in the same place. The easiest explanation is that all astrological systems are wrong, they have no effect and therefore you can have whatever vague system you like as any claimed hits are always designated after the events anyway. If it was dependable you could set up a test of which - if any - was the superior system. If there was anything to it at all you wouldn't get different results from the same planetary placements. You wouldn't be considering it interesting you would be able to show that one of them is wrong, but as it's all open to interpretation you can't tell if any of them work at all! Since Nadi astrology uses the Placidus system or it's equivalent, planets can be placed differently than using the typical sidereal system in vedic astrology. For example, if a person has the Moon in the 8th house in the regular jyotish method, the Moon can be placed in the 7th using Nadi astrology. So, the placement of the Moon has improved and the readings for the individual would change as well. So the planets can be in different places, which changes the readings. Can you really not work out from that that astrology is a load of nonsense? Just to underline it, the planets aren't in different places. They are where they always are, orbiting the sun with the Earth, which is just another planet. If they have an effect in one place, they will have a different effect in another place. They can't both be right. This is the trouble (one of them anyway) with inadequate theories, you can vary entities and get the same claimed effect. This should be a way of sorting one from the other. They can't both be right and are therefore most likely both wrong. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology. Nakshatras are icing on the cake and not the cake itself. Foolish astrologers like use them to look sophisticated when real astrologers just use simple techniques. Regarding Nadi astrology there is a system in it of apply 9 years to each of the planets from birth instead of using dashas. Given there is research confirming recurring 80 year cycles found for over a millennium there might be something too it. But you can always apply it to charts and see if it plays out. On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube. However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi. I labored by listening through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi. From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another dimension to understand the birth chart. The technique basically uses the sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing the tendencies of the entire kundali. It's another version of the Krishnamurti Padhati system. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in others a first class malefic. Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a first class malefic and is following the description of such. You'll have to wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation. My Rahu is exalted in the 8th and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my life so far. As Richard would say, go figger. On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. Yay! On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, May you have abundant blessings in all of your
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
Bhairitu, I've noticed that when they say 30% chance of rain, it almost never rains! On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 10:59 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Nadi astrology actually is NOT that much different from other techniques. They just ad some supplemental features or shadings. I think some of this stuff develops as crutches for bad astrologers of which there are quite a few. Basically all astrology does is crudely recognize certain patterns that occur in nature. It should be used like a weather report. On 06/30/2014 10:52 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Nadi astrology is fascinating in that it considers the sub-lords of the nakshatra to be more powerful than the placement of the planets themselves for analysing the timing of events. Nonetheless, it's a good technique to use especially when many planets are in dusthanas. How can it be a good technique if it differs from other methods which also claim to be having an effect on human affairs? The planets can't be having a different effect in different systems as they are in the same place. The easiest explanation is that all astrological systems are wrong, they have no effect and therefore you can have whatever vague system you like as any claimed hits are always designated after the events anyway. If it was dependable you could set up a test of which - if any - was the superior system. If there was anything to it at all you wouldn't get different results from the same planetary placements. You wouldn't be considering it interesting you would be able to show that one of them is wrong, but as it's all open to interpretation you can't tell if any of them work at all! Since Nadi astrology uses the Placidus system or it's equivalent, planets can be placed differently than using the typical sidereal system in vedic astrology. For example, if a person has the Moon in the 8th house in the regular jyotish method, the Moon can be placed in the 7th using Nadi astrology. So, the placement of the Moon has improved and the readings for the individual would change as well. So the planets can be in different places, which changes the readings. Can you really not work out from that that astrology is a load of nonsense? Just to underline it, the planets aren't in different places. They are where they always are, orbiting the sun with the Earth, which is just another planet. If they have an effect in one place, they will have a different effect in another place. They can't both be right. This is the trouble (one of them anyway) with inadequate theories, you can vary entities and get the same claimed effect. This should be a way of sorting one from the other. They can't both be right and are therefore most likely both wrong. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology. Nakshatras are icing on the cake and not the cake itself. Foolish astrologers like use them to look sophisticated when real astrologers just use simple techniques. Regarding Nadi astrology there is a system in it of apply 9 years to each of the planets from birth instead of using dashas. Given there is research confirming recurring 80 year cycles found for over a millennium there might be something too it. But you can always apply it to charts and see if it plays out. On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube. However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi. I labored by listening through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi. From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another dimension to understand the birth chart. The technique basically uses the sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing the tendencies of the entire kundali. It's another version of the Krishnamurti Padhati system. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in others a first class malefic. Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a first class malefic and is following the description of such. You'll have to wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation. My Rahu is exalted in the 8th and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my life so far. As Richard would say, go figger. On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. Yay! On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, May you have abundant blessings in all of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
Salyavin, The main purpose of jyotish is find the best path to take in life and understand the consequences of your actions or decisions. Each system in jyotish can give a person different perspectives which can give a person a better idea of what action to take. The only way to appreciate these different systems are to see how each system can reveal certain truths about your own life. The Parasara system gives the traditional interpretation of the chart. However, the Nadi system takes into consideration the modern fact that the planets do not revolve around the Sun in a perfect circle. These planets actually travel an elliptical path around the Sun. Thus, the actual placement of the planets would vary from the traditional method of computation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Nadi astrology is fascinating in that it considers the sub-lords of the nakshatra to be more powerful than the placement of the planets themselves for analysing the timing of events. Nonetheless, it's a good technique to use especially when many planets are in dusthanas. How can it be a good technique if it differs from other methods which also claim to be having an effect on human affairs? The planets can't be having a different effect in different systems as they are in the same place. The easiest explanation is that all astrological systems are wrong, they have no effect and therefore you can have whatever vague system you like as any claimed hits are always designated after the events anyway. If it was dependable you could set up a test of which - if any - was the superior system. If there was anything to it at all you wouldn't get different results from the same planetary placements. You wouldn't be considering it interesting you would be able to show that one of them is wrong, but as it's all open to interpretation you can't tell if any of them work at all! Since Nadi astrology uses the Placidus system or it's equivalent, planets can be placed differently than using the typical sidereal system in vedic astrology. For example, if a person has the Moon in the 8th house in the regular jyotish method, the Moon can be placed in the 7th using Nadi astrology. So, the placement of the Moon has improved and the readings for the individual would change as well. So the planets can be in different places, which changes the readings. Can you really not work out from that that astrology is a load of nonsense? Just to underline it, the planets aren't in different places. They are where they always are, orbiting the sun with the Earth, which is just another planet. If they have an effect in one place, they will have a different effect in another place. They can't both be right. This is the trouble (one of them anyway) with inadequate theories, you can vary entities and get the same claimed effect. This should be a way of sorting one from the other. They can't both be right and are therefore most likely both wrong. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology. Nakshatras are icing on the cake and not the cake itself. Foolish astrologers like use them to look sophisticated when real astrologers just use simple techniques. Regarding Nadi astrology there is a system in it of apply 9 years to each of the planets from birth instead of using dashas. Given there is research confirming recurring 80 year cycles found for over a millennium there might be something too it. But you can always apply it to charts and see if it plays out. On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube. However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi. I labored by listening through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi. From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another dimension to understand the birth chart. The technique basically uses the sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing the tendencies of the entire kundali. It's another version of the Krishnamurti Padhati system. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in others a first class malefic. Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a first class malefic and is following the description of such. You'll have to wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation. My Rahu is exalted in the 8th and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my life so far. As Richard would say, go figger. On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, The main purpose of jyotish is find the best path to take in life and understand the consequences of your actions or decisions. Each system in jyotish can give a person different perspectives which can give a person a better idea of what action to take. The only way to appreciate these different systems are to see how each system can reveal certain truths about your own life. The Parasara system gives the traditional interpretation of the chart. However, the Nadi system takes into consideration the modern fact that the planets do not revolve around the Sun in a perfect circle. These planets actually travel an elliptical path around the Sun. Thus, the actual placement of the planets would vary from the traditional method of computation. As long as you get the point that it isn't the planets telling you anything useful if different systems give you different results. It's all in your mind, but if it makes you happy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Nadi astrology is fascinating in that it considers the sub-lords of the nakshatra to be more powerful than the placement of the planets themselves for analysing the timing of events. Nonetheless, it's a good technique to use especially when many planets are in dusthanas. How can it be a good technique if it differs from other methods which also claim to be having an effect on human affairs? The planets can't be having a different effect in different systems as they are in the same place. The easiest explanation is that all astrological systems are wrong, they have no effect and therefore you can have whatever vague system you like as any claimed hits are always designated after the events anyway. If it was dependable you could set up a test of which - if any - was the superior system. If there was anything to it at all you wouldn't get different results from the same planetary placements. You wouldn't be considering it interesting you would be able to show that one of them is wrong, but as it's all open to interpretation you can't tell if any of them work at all! Since Nadi astrology uses the Placidus system or it's equivalent, planets can be placed differently than using the typical sidereal system in vedic astrology. For example, if a person has the Moon in the 8th house in the regular jyotish method, the Moon can be placed in the 7th using Nadi astrology. So, the placement of the Moon has improved and the readings for the individual would change as well. So the planets can be in different places, which changes the readings. Can you really not work out from that that astrology is a load of nonsense? Just to underline it, the planets aren't in different places. They are where they always are, orbiting the sun with the Earth, which is just another planet. If they have an effect in one place, they will have a different effect in another place. They can't both be right. This is the trouble (one of them anyway) with inadequate theories, you can vary entities and get the same claimed effect. This should be a way of sorting one from the other. They can't both be right and are therefore most likely both wrong. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology. Nakshatras are icing on the cake and not the cake itself. Foolish astrologers like use them to look sophisticated when real astrologers just use simple techniques. Regarding Nadi astrology there is a system in it of apply 9 years to each of the planets from birth instead of using dashas. Given there is research confirming recurring 80 year cycles found for over a millennium there might be something too it. But you can always apply it to charts and see if it plays out. On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube. However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi. I labored by listening through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi. From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another dimension to understand the birth chart. The technique basically uses the sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing the tendencies of the entire kundali. It's another version of the Krishnamurti Padhati system. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in others a first class malefic. Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a first class malefic and is following the description of such. You'll have to wait a few years for Rahu and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
Nadi astrology is fascinating in that it considers the sub-lords of the nakshatra to be more powerful than the placement of the planets themselves for analysing the timing of events. Nonetheless, it's a good technique to use especially when many planets are in dusthanas. Since Nadi astrology uses the Placidus system or it's equivalent, planets can be placed differently than using the typical sidereal system in vedic astrology. For example, if a person has the Moon in the 8th house in the regular jyotish method, the Moon can be placed in the 7th using Nadi astrology. So, the placement of the Moon has improved and the readings for the individual would change as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology. Nakshatras are icing on the cake and not the cake itself. Foolish astrologers like use them to look sophisticated when real astrologers just use simple techniques. Regarding Nadi astrology there is a system in it of apply 9 years to each of the planets from birth instead of using dashas. Given there is research confirming recurring 80 year cycles found for over a millennium there might be something too it. But you can always apply it to charts and see if it plays out. On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube. However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi. I labored by listening through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi. From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another dimension to understand the birth chart. The technique basically uses the sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing the tendencies of the entire kundali. It's another version of the Krishnamurti Padhati system. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in others a first class malefic. Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a first class malefic and is following the description of such. You'll have to wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation. My Rahu is exalted in the 8th and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my life so far. As Richard would say, go figger. On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. Yay! On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the entire year. (Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house) Regards, JR ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Nadi astrology is fascinating in that it considers the sub-lords of the nakshatra to be more powerful than the placement of the planets themselves for analysing the timing of events. Nonetheless, it's a good technique to use especially when many planets are in dusthanas. How can it be a good technique if it differs from other methods which also claim to be having an effect on human affairs? The planets can't be having a different effect in different systems as they are in the same place. The easiest explanation is that all astrological systems are wrong, they have no effect and therefore you can have whatever vague system you like as any claimed hits are always designated after the events anyway. If it was dependable you could set up a test of which - if any - was the superior system. If there was anything to it at all you wouldn't get different results from the same planetary placements. You wouldn't be considering it interesting you would be able to show that one of them is wrong, but as it's all open to interpretation you can't tell if any of them work at all! Since Nadi astrology uses the Placidus system or it's equivalent, planets can be placed differently than using the typical sidereal system in vedic astrology. For example, if a person has the Moon in the 8th house in the regular jyotish method, the Moon can be placed in the 7th using Nadi astrology. So, the placement of the Moon has improved and the readings for the individual would change as well. So the planets can be in different places, which changes the readings. Can you really not work out from that that astrology is a load of nonsense? Just to underline it, the planets aren't in different places. They are where they always are, orbiting the sun with the Earth, which is just another planet. If they have an effect in one place, they will have a different effect in another place. They can't both be right. This is the trouble (one of them anyway) with inadequate theories, you can vary entities and get the same claimed effect. This should be a way of sorting one from the other. They can't both be right and are therefore most likely both wrong. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology. Nakshatras are icing on the cake and not the cake itself. Foolish astrologers like use them to look sophisticated when real astrologers just use simple techniques. Regarding Nadi astrology there is a system in it of apply 9 years to each of the planets from birth instead of using dashas. Given there is research confirming recurring 80 year cycles found for over a millennium there might be something too it. But you can always apply it to charts and see if it plays out. On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube. However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi. I labored by listening through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi. From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another dimension to understand the birth chart. The technique basically uses the sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing the tendencies of the entire kundali. It's another version of the Krishnamurti Padhati system. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in others a first class malefic. Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a first class malefic and is following the description of such. You'll have to wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation. My Rahu is exalted in the 8th and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my life so far. As Richard would say, go figger. On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. Yay! On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the entire year. (Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house) Regards, JR ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
I've taken workshops on Nadi astrology. Nakshatras are icing on the cake and not the cake itself. Foolish astrologers like use them to look sophisticated when real astrologers just use simple techniques. Regarding Nadi astrology there is a system in it of apply 9 years to each of the planets from birth instead of using dashas. Given there is research confirming recurring 80 year cycles found for over a millennium there might be something too it. But you can always apply it to charts and see if it plays out. On 06/29/2014 05:17 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube. However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi. I labored by listening through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi. From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another dimension to understand the birth chart. The technique basically uses the sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing the tendencies of the entire kundali. It's another version of the Krishnamurti Padhati system. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in others a first class malefic. Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a first class malefic and is following the description of such. You'll have to wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation. My Rahu is exalted in the 8th and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my life so far. As Richard would say, go figger. On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. Yay! On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the entire year. (Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house) Regards, JR ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
Happy Birthday, Share, and Curtis! What flavor cake?? I used to get a birthday *pie* - lemon meringue ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, you guys ARE the party! Well, much of the time... (-: On Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth? Happy Birthday! Can we come to the party?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
Share, May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the entire year. (Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house) Regards, JR ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. Yay! On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the entire year. (Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house) Regards, JR ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in others a first class malefic. Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a first class malefic and is following the description of such. You'll have to wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation. My Rahu is exalted in the 8th and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my life so far. As Richard would say, go figger. On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. Yay! On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the entire year. (Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house) Regards, JR ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth? Happy Birthday! Can we come to the party?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
salyavin, you guys ARE the party! Well, much of the time... (-: On Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth? Happy Birthday! Can we come to the party?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, you guys ARE the party! Well, much of the time... (-: Oh no! I'll raise a glass in your honour tonight... On Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:18 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth? Happy Birthday! Can we come to the party?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Share
Bhairitu, You should learn Nadi Astrology as presented by Umang Taneja on YouTube. However, he presents his lectures mostly in Hindi. I labored by listening through his lectures, even though I don't speak or understand a word of Hindi. From what I could gather by inference, Nadi astrology gives a person another dimension to understand the birth chart. The technique basically uses the sub-lords of the nakshatra as the basis for making predictions and assessing the tendencies of the entire kundali. It's another version of the Krishnamurti Padhati system. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : In some schools of Jyotish Jupiter is a benefic for Libra ascedants but in others a first class malefic. Now in my Jupiter dasha I would say it is a first class malefic and is following the description of such. You'll have to wait a few years for Rahu and Ketu to move into exaltation. My Rahu is exalted in the 8th and the recently completed Rahu dasha was the most successful of my life so far. As Richard would say, go figger. On 06/29/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks, John, all those exalted and at home planets feel pretty good these days. Now just looking forward to Rahu and Ketu moving into exaltation too. Yay! On Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:51 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, May you have abundant blessings in all of your activities for the entire year. (Exalted Jupiter in your 10th house) Regards, JR ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : Today is their birthday. Happy birthday! Twins separated at birth?
Re: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis, on witnessing
On 5/17/2014 3:09 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: A rap for Curtis, now that the Jim-bot has shouted himself out and probably fallen asleep... Maybe it's time to review the protocols for posting messages to news forums: 1. Don't include a person's real name in the subject line of your post. 2. If it's a personal note to someone in particular, switch to private email for your message. 3. Try to avoid sending flames or trying to pick a fight with other respondents. 4. Try to make yourself look good when posting text messages - take some pride in your work. 5. The use of blue text is usually reserved for hyper text links. 6. Don't send email to people in the middle of the night when they are trying to get some sleep. Thanks. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis, on witnessing
Richard, I added to your netiquette list. Go figure! 0. Don't snip so that something written by A looks like it was written by B! 1. Don't include a person's real name in the subject line of your post. 2. If it's a personal note to someone in particular, switch to private email for your message. 3. Try to avoid sending flames or trying to pick a fight with other respondents. 4. Try to make yourself look good when posting text messages - take some pride in your work. 5. The use of blue text is usually reserved for hyper text links. 6. Don't send email to people in the middle of the night when they are trying to get some sleep. On Sunday, May 18, 2014 10:11 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 5/17/2014 3:09 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: A rap for Curtis, now that the Jim-bot has shouted himself out and probably fallen asleep... Maybe it's time to review the protocols for posting messages to news forums: 1. Don't include a person's real name in the subject line of your post. 2. If it's a personal note to someone in particular, switch to private email for your message. 3. Try to avoid sending flames or trying to pick a fight with other respondents. 4. Try to make yourself look good when posting text messages - take some pride in your work. 5. The use of blue text is usually reserved for hyper text links. 6. Don't send email to people in the middle of the night when they are trying to get some sleep. Thanks. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
[FairfieldLife] To Curtis, on witnessing
A rap for Curtis, now that the Jim-bot has shouted himself out and probably fallen asleep. For obvious reasons, I didn't want to get involved with Jim while he was busy doing his Biff Tanner imitation. He's clearly-out-of-control angry over the fact that he can't get me to react to his taunts, and that out-of-control-ness amuses me, so I'll allow him to continue to rant later when when he wakes up with a Boy-I-sure-shouted-them-down-didn't-I hangover. :-) But I do wish to comment on some of Curtis' comments, to add in my two centimes. Yes, I *do* agree with him in believing that Maharishi was WAY off in coming up with any meaningful interpretations of and descriptions of consciousness and what it means. And one of the key indicators of this to me is his reliance on a phenomenon that is seen as so meaningless in other meditation traditions that it is almost never spoken about, let alone suggested as a criterion for enlightenment. I am speaking, of course, of witnessing. In Tibetan and other more traditional forms of meditation teaching, this phenomenon is so commonplace and is considered so meaningless that it is almost never mentioned, except with a passing warning. The warning is to not get hung up on it, because it's so easy to (in MMY terminology) mood make the sensation to convince oneself that they're more advanced than they really are. That, interestingly enough, is the same finding that neuroscientists have gleaned from lab experiments. The phenomenon of witnessnessing can be *generated*, merely by stimulating the proper areas of the brain. Furthermore, once the subject has experienced it via stimulation, it is possible for them to bring on that experience again just by making a mood of it. That's what I honestly think happened to the Jim-bot. He had some minor experiences of witnessing, and having a shitload of ego problems and wanting some attention, he kept mood-making the experience again so that he could use it to justify his oneupsmanship games. This is *exactly* why teachers in more legitimate traditions don't focus on witnessing as anything more than a beginner's perception, and don't try to convince students it's meaningful. The phenomenon is so easy to simulate subjectively that people get themselves in trouble *trying* to simulate it, and wind up wandering around in a state of classical psychological dissociation, unable to tell fantasy from reality. I might suggest that this pattern is very evident in the Jim-bot. Surely most people have noticed his compulsion to always try to one-up anyone in the realm of what he feebly considers spiritual experience. Someone mentions an experience on Batgap or FFL, and he *can't help himself* and has to come roaring in claiming to have had that experience years ago. I've often been tempted to make up some experience that Maharishi supposedly talked about out of whole cloth and post it, just to see how long it would take Jimbo to claim he'd had the made-up experience, too. :-) Anyway, my point is that this compulsion to play oneupsmanship games with one's supposed advanced consciousness is considered by older, more established meditation traditions as *pretty much what happens* when one emphasizes witnessing and pretends that it's anything but the fleeting, everyday, beginner's experience it is. Witnessing is so easy to mood-make that these teachers don't want their students going down that path and losing themselves in delusion. Jim is the perfect example of what happens when they do.
[FairfieldLife] To Curtis - Sam Harris
I have this idea kicking around in my head to try to interview Sam Harris, or someone like him. An intelligent atheist, as I understand him. I’d want to read all his books first, and then hash out the likely points of discussion with you beforehand. We could do it on FFL. My perspective is very SCI-like – that intelligence is omnipresent, all-pervading, and obvious if one looks closely enough. I’m interviewing a guy named Bernardo Kastrup in a couple of months who has written a book called “Why Materialism is Baloney”, but it would be fun to interview an intelligent materialist, if that’s what Harris is, and see if we could find any common ground. What do you think?
[FairfieldLife] To Curtis - were you trying to PR me?
Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his psychological rape post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis referred me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably should have then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed his boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was teasing him; he got angry God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not pick up on that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You never did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. If you were, than I say Fuck you, man, fuck you. If you weren't than maybe you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a song from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a performance period that would be best left forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE
[FairfieldLife] Hey Curtis--- very cool video I think you'll like
Curtis, with your passion for musical education as a tool for personal and social development and your love of cigar box guitars, I couldn't help but think of you when I saw this story of some musicians in Paraguay who found a way to craft instruments from trash when they didn't have enough for their school programs--a whole orchestra's worth. Don't know if you've heard of them but it's very cool and inspiring. Landfill Harmonic Amazing and Inspirational https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJxxdQox7n0feature=youtube_gdata_player\ Cheers.
[FairfieldLife] To Curtis
Hi Curtis: What do you think of this song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQVOvRpI3rElist=ALHTd1VmZQRNqgzJoiD3jr0XCh5QpQKiJa
[FairfieldLife] Yo, Curtis...
Ann, it would be best if you skip this post. Curtis, what did Jesus really say while on the cross? Peter, come to me Peter! Yes Lord, I'm here. Peter, I can see your house from up here!
[FairfieldLife] Hey, Curtis...
...not that I'm picking on you or anything, it's just that I thought you'd be a good person to aim this generic rap at, because I think you'll get it, whereas many here will not. :-) Have you ever noticed that the Hater Tots on Fairfield Life tend to react the most strongly, the most vehemently, and the most out-of-control angrily when we post something creative, something that reflects the FUN we're having in the moment of having written it? It's like something in them feels the need to warp reality into their shadow view of it: [http://i.huffpost.com/gen/867522/thumbs/s-ILLUSION-large300.jpg?4] In this case (the illusion), the chair is bent but as the result of careful spotlight placement the shadow seems normal. The Hater Tots tend to do the opposite -- they see an interesting reality, and transform it in their minds (and in their posted words) into something misshapen, something hateful. Go figure. I sometimes wonder about this phenomenon. It's not -- obviously -- as if I lose any sleep over this pondering, or actually spend any time actually pondering it, but I sometimes wonder what it IS in some people that makes them believe that because they post something on an Internet forum, someone OWES them for their efforts. They see something that someone else has written and they react to it. Sometimes rather strongly. Rather than deal with the essence of what the other person said that pushed their buttons and that put them into reactive mode, they focus all of their button-pushéd wrath on the person who said it. It's like on some level they're screaming, How DARE they be having FUN with their lives when we've spent so much time and energy trying to prevent that? How DARE they get positive feedback from other posters here *for* having FUN with their lives when we've done all that we could possibly do over the years to poison the well and try to insure that no one EVER views them positively? Go figure. I've always identified with the title of a great little book about American expats in Paris during the Golden Age of Expats. It was all about the era that Woody Allen romanticized so well in his film Midnight In Paris, the era of Hemingway and F. Scott Fitzgerald and Cole Porter and Alice B. Toklas and Gertrude Stein and Picasso and Dali and Bunuel and Man Ray and Josephine Baker together in Paris, the last era in which the City Of Lights really blazed with creative light. I always loved the title of the book. It seemed to get the point, especially when it came to these free-thinkers, hounded and chased out of their native lands, only to end up in a Better Place, having a Better Time than those who had chased them away. The name of the book was Living Well Is The Best Revenge. Here's my thinking...if the people who seem to have dedicated their lives to hounding US, and to trying to make us feel as bummed out and dead-ended as they must feel seem to be so powerfully affected by indications that we're having a good time with our lives, we should just strive to have even MORE of a good time with our lives, and to post about these good times on FFL. Is that mean of me? Does that make me look like a sadist, or as some would suggest, a psychopath? I think it just makes me look like someone who cares more about having a good time than about the opinions of those who have never -- in some cases given over 22, 550 posts to FFL -- demonstrated their ability to have one. They can live in the past and base their lives and their behavior on past impressions if they want to. I, for one, feel no need to do so. Today is today, and damn!...it's kinda groovy. Given any luck, it could turn into a groovy future. :-) [https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/12155_5162658650\ 73531_151404639_n.jpg] http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0064569/
[FairfieldLife] Thanks, Curtis- Summer Eggplant recipe
Thanks, Curtis for your Summer Eggplant recipe, posted to FFL some time ago. I am enjoying a dish of it now, and despite the calendar showing we're into the Fall Season, the dish is wonderful !Kudos! -Mainstream Summer Eggplant recipe contributed to FFL by Curtis (delta blues) I associate eggplant with this season. I layer them with perorino And mozzarella with vadalia onions and slices of stale bread that the Tuscans use as an ingredient in lots of dishes. Sometimes I sacrificesome tomatoes and of course shower each layer with olive oil and fresh marjoram, oregano and basil. (Again not subtle, I want to taste them!) I might pour a can of crushed tomatoes over the top before topping it all with cheese. Bake it hot 400 to brown the edges in a glass pan. I want to see brown when I open the oven 30-40 minutes later. Let it set a bit and then carve away and let it wash over the plate because waiting didn't set it up as you hoped, it is one glorious mess. You can throw it on top of pasta if you want. Top with the best olive oil you can find Mario Battali style and some more fresh basil leaves and inhale. I mean breathe baby, this is Summer so fill your lungs.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Curtis -- writing for the Church of $cientology
Curtis, I LOVE Snicker Doodles! But perhaps snickering was from name and form phenomena happening? (-: Share From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Raunchy -- writing for the Church of $cientology --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@... wrote: I can't believe they resurrected this old routine. Not so easy to spin if we look at Sal's exact words: #296961 On Nov 30, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: Hello everyone: We wanted to let you know that you have another chance to see Jennifer's ceramics and paintings at our house this Thursday night, 1 December, at 7pm. See map attached. We will provide cookies and milk. Sal: Presumably along with lollipops, balloons, and a game of duck-duck-goose as well. Unbelievable. Sal Alex: That's Jennifer Blair, whose studio was in the Depot Building that just burned to the ground. What is so unbelievable about trying to raise some money after experiencing a loss like that? Sal: Nothing at all, Alex, and it should be obvious that's not what I meant. Jesus! Clearly I didn't know that~~ it wasn't obvious from the email, you know. I just meant the cookies and milk bit. Well, I hope she raises some. Sal M: Yeah that's 'Ol Sal the bully making fun of cookies and milk at Fairfield events again. Poor cookies and milk, how can they stand this abuse? So what was Raunchy's comment about the above interaction: When artist, Jennifer Blair lost everything in a fire Sal heartlessly, gratuitously, derided a fundraiser for her. M: Yeah, nothing to apologize for there, I remember the weeping and wailing of those poor Ginger Snaps. Glad they have two people to stick up for them here on FFL. If they don't hold the line next there will be snickering over the Snicker Doodles. Heartlessly Gratuitously Bullying --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: snip I didn't think you'd acknowledge you had been wrong, even when presented with the evidence. This has become your story Judy. For a long time, this has been your story.
[FairfieldLife] for Curtis just in case
Hi Curtis, funnily enough they're talking about publishing over on Buddha At the Gas Pump aka Batgap aka Bat. Great info just in case you start moving in that direction. PS By any chance are you the Curtis who hopped a freighter with Mermer the poet downhill racer and Jack the genius scientist during MIU 1975-76 school year? Only asking because that Curtis has a good friend living in northern Virginia. And there you are. Share neurons connecting, etc. Let the tech do most it: A free blog (selling page and more) courtesy of WordPress or Blogger, a free PayPal account, do your own layout or get someone to help. Save as .PDF (and if you can/get someone to do the books in HTML (chapters navigable as links/web pages) you can convert to MOBI (Kindle) and EPUB (Nook and others) with free conversion software. Automate the selling via self publishing sites and/or electronic file distribution sites (some 'free' [taking a small cut), some cheap [setup fees, etc.], some not). If you want physical books many of the self-pub sites specialize in that - help with ISBN, etc. All of this can be done incrementally, testing and adjusting as you go. MANY web sites about this stuff to offer ideas/resources. If any of it works - THEN you might be able to interest a publisher. They're not interested in writers, only in product they can move. Right now you don't have that. If any of this works reasonably well, you may not want a publisher. Point being, others have already done this in countless ways, and many are willing to share how. Standard eMarketing tip - offer a free ebook (PDF of something smaller. Another piece, or a sample chapter). This has come to be expected to some degree. Related blog articles serve a similar function. This may seem redundant... - but that's Marketing 101. Everything can be re-spun, never produce anything that can't be sold a dozen ways (both venues and form of offerings). Blog articles become book chapters and vice versa. Titles, chapter heads, and salient points become Tweets, slightly longer bits become Facebook postings and such. All cross linked/shared. Interactions with people on those site generate ideas for new content, etc., etc...
[FairfieldLife] To Curtis II: Neville Brothers - Brother Jake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFSIHld7jDsfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] To Curtis
You know, in case you're lurking. http://www.curtisblues.com/ You need a marketing manager. Seriously. This is euphoric.
[FairfieldLife] To Curtis and Ravi, lover's forever.
A joke sent to my email to share with you. [A magician was working on a cruise ship in the Caribbean. The audience would be different each week, so the magician allowed himself to do the same tricks over and over again. There was only one problem: The captain's parrot saw the shows every week and began to understand what the magician did in every trick. Once he understood that, he started shouting in the middle of the show. Look, it's not the same hat! Look, he's hiding the flowers under the table! Hey, why are all the cards the Ace of Spades? The magician was furious but couldn't do anything, it was the captain's parrot after all. One day the ship had an accident and sank. The magician found himself on a piece of wood, in the middle of the ocean, and of course the parrot was by his side. They stared at each other with hate, but did not utter a word. This went on for several days. After a week the parrot finally said, Okay, I give up. What'd you do with the boat?]
[FairfieldLife] For Curtis and Barry
Not really my topic, but I came across it in my searches, I thought you might like it. [cult-poster.jpg (251×299)]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; the hypocrite slayer)
Let me get back to you after your meeting with Dickens' three ghosts Bob. But if I run into Santa at the mall, I'll mention your request for an emotional punching bag this Christmas. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLb213lak5s Curtis, So nice (I hope you don't mind being called nice; I can't think of a *word* that better captures your posting voice) to have you back posting on FFL, unless your post to RAVI was just a drive by, we were completely adrift without the steadying hand of your moral compass; I do have one housekeeping item though, before we proceed; you and BUBBLES owe me $3.18; that said, I'll let it ride---I now have $3.18 that says yours, Bubbles, and/or one of your ciphers, fingerprints, are all over the email that Rick received, complaining about Ravi's choice of *words*. Do I have this right; you figure Ravi's colorful and entertaining communications should be stopped, at any cost, but anything Bubbles says is AOK in your book; is it me, or is this a rerun? And it's completely all right, in your book, to mock people behind their backs, as long as we don't allow Ravi to do it to their faceseven when he was so obviously provoked. If nothing else, you've proven what a number of us have suspected, for sometime now; that unlike Ravi, you're not cool---as in completely un-cool. In fact, lets not pussy (OMG, does that mean what I think it means) foot around, you're actually a bit of a twerp, aren't you, and I doubt I'm the first to say so; I certainty wouldn't call you a hypocrite, you don't need any help with that handle, and I know I have to be very careful with my choice of *words* around you; we know how some *words* set you off (we'd hate to have to post out again): The Most Disgusting thing I ever read on FFL. But I would be remiss if I didn't point out your shameless attempt at reconstruction by attempting to assassinate Ravi's character, while giving your Bubbles a free pass. Anybody with a brain knows you've been gunning for Ravi because he never bought into your class president shtick. And, of course, you've never forgiven him for not taking your religious worship of your *POV* very seriously: My God, he called you a Buddhist, no less.  I used to get a good chuckle at how easy it was to get you, Bubbles, and your ciphers, to line up single file, to avoid wasting ammo; I've now decided---watching the work of a real master like Ravi, I need to get over myself: A bright flash, a loud ka-boom, building's shake and stay standing (without so much as a broken window), and every hypocrite on FFL is sent to kingdom-come by the neutron bomb, formally know as Raja Ravi Yogi, the hunter-outster of the sociopathically dull---in all shapes and sizes.  I know you're the kind of guy that makes your mind up about *everything*, before entering into a conversation about *anything*, so you must be wondering who the hell Bubbles is. Well, let me tell you how hard it's been trying to find just the right handle for your buddy---I've lost count of the number we've tried; that fit, but not perfectly; till KB and the Vajette handed it to me as they continue to do the same thing over and over and expect different results; the break through came a couple of days ago when his KB-ness threatened to stop posting on FFL (as if he had somewhere else to go) and we discovered that what both he and the Vajette seemed to be saying: I think it's very important to know when to stop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpDgRzzTE-Ifeature=related PS: Please let me know if you consider any of this bullying; I'm still pondering that KOAN you shared with us that bullying was impossible on FFL, but, at the same time, I was obviously bullying MZ, quite the paradox that one. BTW, how is your relationship with MZ going these days, your dialogues are missed. The *nice* thing about the handle *Bubbles* is it pretty much fits all the hypocrites Ravi outs on a regular basis; most of them without even aiming, the man is truly a wonder. And thank goodness, since binary makes granite look mushy, your attempt to slander Ravi, and your response to Judy---pointing out your spelling mistake, and your Most disgusting... post to me will forever weld you to your *Bubbles*, and your behavior of choice (starts with an h and ends with an y). PPS: Bubbles, be careful about twisting your neck into a pretzel pretending you don't spend your life reading everything posted on FFL; the chiropractor was right, you're not exactly a spring chicken. I hadn't realized how much Willy was upsetting you with those photos of Rama, those Dutch people are pretty tolerant, why don't you try telling the waitress what's upsetting you so much. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; the hypocrite slayer)
Bob Price: Willy was upsetting you with those photos of Rama... Barry himself has written the most embarassing Rama stories. There's something funny about almost every guru or teacher. http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/index.html But, I actually liked Fred Lenz - I love almost all gurus. I mean if you can't laugh at yourself and your guru, who can you laugh at? After Trungpa died, we had a big ceremony just before he was about to be cremated. All the senior students gathered inside the enormous, orange-pillared big Dharmadhatu shrine hall, with its blue, red and gold trim. It was standing room only with the Trungpa disciples sitting in rows, upon the softy pillows, in practiced posture, evoking the mantras and the visualizations just like the lama had instructed. There were rows and rows of solemn meditators sitting with eyes half closed. Everything was in acordance with Tibetan tradition, down to the clicking of the prayer beads and the empty throne where a photograph of the late Rinpoche had been placed. Up on the dais sat the Vajra Regent, appointed by the Trungpa Rinpoche, Osel Tendzin; and the visiting high lamas of the Tibetan Kagya sect; the monks and the VIPs and the laity. I got to sit down in front because I, among six others, had taken the Vajrayana vows and had been intitiated into Shambala training by the lama himself. In the back of the temple a special cadre of advanced students sat in a circle grinding the bones of the Trungpa Tulku, once the spiritual leader of the Surmang group of monesteries in Tibet. We recited a hundred thousand dharanis, performed a thousand bows in order to empowered the Rinpoche's bones. And to what avail? Years later, I learned that both the Trungpa and his Vajra Regent were gay alcoholics who had built, out of money donated by hapless students, a vast beaucratic organization in the form of a co-dependent support group, i.e., both the Trungpa and the Vajra Regent literally drank and screwed themselves to death right in front of the whole organization! And they called it Tantra, blessed by none other than the great Kalu, himself a Tibetan philanderer. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; the hypocrite slayer)
Golly Curtis, You're slipping, the same rubber arrow, two days in a row (emotional punching bag), what are you getting *Bubbles* for Christmas: Geraldine loves diamonds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEgHpvcg0o8 ***Have to run, I have an appointment for the nails. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:54:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and Bubbles: Our Moral Compass (was...Ravi; the hypocrite slayer) Let me get back to you after your meeting with Dickens' three ghosts Bob. But if I run into Santa at the mall, I'll mention your request for an emotional punching bag this Christmas. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLb213lak5s Curtis, So nice (I hope you don't mind being called nice; I can't think of a *word* that better captures your posting voice) to have you back posting on FFL, unless your post to RAVI was just a drive by, we were completely adrift without the steadying hand of your moral compass; I do have one housekeeping item though, before we proceed; you and BUBBLES owe me $3.18; that said, I'll let it ride---I now have $3.18 that says yours, Bubbles, and/or one of your ciphers, fingerprints, are all over the email that Rick received, complaining about Ravi's choice of *words*. Do I have this right; you figure Ravi's colorful and entertaining communications should be stopped, at any cost, but anything Bubbles says is AOK in your book; is it me, or is this a rerun? And it's completely all right, in your book, to mock people behind their backs, as long as we don't allow Ravi to do it to their faceseven when he was so obviously provoked. If nothing else, you've proven what a number of us have suspected, for sometime now; that unlike Ravi, you're not cool---as in completely un-cool. In fact, lets not pussy (OMG, does that mean what I think it means) foot around, you're actually a bit of a twerp, aren't you, and I doubt I'm the first to say so; I certainty wouldn't call you a hypocrite, you don't need any help with that handle, and I know I have to be very careful with my choice of *words* around you; we know how some *words* set you off (we'd hate to have to post out again): The Most Disgusting thing I ever read on FFL. But I would be remiss if I didn't point out your shameless attempt at reconstruction by attempting to assassinate Ravi's character, while giving your Bubbles a free pass. Anybody with a brain knows you've been gunning for Ravi because he never bought into your class president shtick. And, of course, you've never forgiven him for not taking your religious worship of your *POV* very seriously: My God, he called you a Buddhist, no less.  I used to get a good chuckle at how easy it was to get you, Bubbles, and your ciphers, to line up single file, to avoid wasting ammo; I've now decided---watching the work of a real master like Ravi, I need to get over myself: A bright flash, a loud ka-boom, building's shake and stay standing (without so much as a broken window), and every hypocrite on FFL is sent to kingdom-come by the neutron bomb, formally know as Raja Ravi Yogi, the hunter-outster of the sociopathically dull---in all shapes and sizes.  I know you're the kind of guy that makes your mind up about *everything*, before entering into a conversation about *anything*, so you must be wondering who the hell Bubbles is. Well, let me tell you how hard it's been trying to find just the right handle for your buddy---I've lost count of the number we've tried; that fit, but not perfectly; till KB and the Vajette handed it to me as they continue to do the same thing over and over and expect different results; the break through came a couple of days ago when his KB-ness threatened to stop posting on FFL (as if he had somewhere else to go) and we discovered that what both he and the Vajette seemed to be saying: I think it's very important to know when to stop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpDgRzzTE-Ifeature=related PS: Please let me know if you consider any of this bullying; I'm still pondering that KOAN you shared with us that bullying was impossible on FFL, but, at the same time, I was obviously bullying MZ, quite the paradox that one. BTW, how is your relationship with MZ going these days, your dialogues are missed. The *nice* thing about the handle *Bubbles* is it pretty much fits all the hypocrites Ravi outs on a regular basis; most of them without even aiming, the man is truly a wonder. And thank goodness, since binary makes granite look mushy, your attempt to slander Ravi, and your response to Judy---pointing out your spelling mistake, and your Most disgusting... post to me will forever weld you to your *Bubbles*, and your behavior
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis and The Walking Blues -- Occupy the Domes!!
Tart, Curtis wears white when he sings bhajans for the Rajas. He's very politic I have heard. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: - Curtis does a wonderful version of Walkin' Blues (well, I am sure many many versions, but I heard the one from his CD or site.) Maybe as good, though very different style, to Paul Butterfield, which I am partial to -- probably having to do with the times, those days, of my first darshan with that version (new dimensions opened up). But you be the judge (non judgmentally, ha). Erichttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THPXoLjQX-Y Roberthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sml8W5SAwo Paulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8TNYEJmnF4http://www.youtube.com/wat\ ch?v=VoNJysPjjtchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kpz-1qpNBwfeature=fvst Bonniehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z65oAMwWq54 Susanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I1AH5Bshukfeature=related Deadhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPYml9xO-E Quicksilverhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBBtIPvU3t0 And for the grand finale, our own Headliner: Curtis Blues! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-arnwUV2VI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-arnwUV2VI http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm http://www.curtisblues.com/videos.htm
[FairfieldLife] Hey Curtis, how does this work?
Seems to me he's several feet in front of the curtain, and there's no disturbance in the curtain, so it seems unlikely that there's some device hidden behind it lifting him up. http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/the-supernaturalist-levitation.html
[FairfieldLife] For Curtis Others
A friend sent me this. Not exactly your kind of music, but you may enjoy it. i highly recommend viewing this episode of austin city limits starring allen toussaint, an american icon of the new orleans music sound. he is a big big favorite of mine! some months ago i was lucky enough to catch this show--every minute of it is pure high quality musical entertainment. it runs about an hour--for those of you who don't have that kind of time i strongly urge you to forward to the 38:38 mark and relax and let allen tell you a little story. this intro has got to be one of my all time favorites--along with bruce springteen's phenomenal story telling days! this is a little gentler and nostalgic, this TRANSPORTED me to a time in my life when i ALWAYS felt safe, back when i was little jerry. while it was the south side of chicago and not the country of louisiana that allen reminisces about, it was the same kind of feeling--mother is at home. this is beautiful, his voice is so calming to listen to, along with the accompanying piano which is SO in sync with his words. i got so lost in the intro i that i was surprised when i realize what the song he was going into was... it forever changed the way i hear this song. this intro for me was like a masterpiece painting, so vivid that i felt as if i were there back in time with him. i hope this is as beautiful for you as it is for me. http://video.klru.tv/video/1378867539/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis - a reply sent to you.
Thanks for the heads up.. Very interesting stuff and I will respond. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: I sent an email reply to your return address as suggested. However, since you don't check it much, I'm noting it here just to let you know. Nothing too special, just some follow-up. emptybill
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis, did you make it to this festival in DC?
Damn I missed it! I was performing at a local blues festival yesterday. If I didn't have a gig I would have considered going. I am always up for a challenge to my pallet and my straightness and this seems to combine both in one stroke. (Unfortunate term but unavoidable I am afraid!) The local Fox station shot me for the festival promo a few days ago. If you click under the video on the second video link with my picture you can see my few minutes of local fame play out: http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/mornings/tinner-hill-blues-festival-060911 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Sounds like it was a ball. Or several. http://weirdnews.aol.com/2011/06/10/testicle-festival-2011_n_875049.html :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis, did you make it to this festival in DC?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Damn I missed it! I was performing at a local blues festival yesterday. If I didn't have a gig I would have considered going. I am always up for a challenge to my pallet and my straightness and this seems to combine both in one stroke. (Unfortunate term but unavoidable I am afraid!) The local Fox station shot me for the festival promo a few days ago. If you click under the video on the second video link with my picture you can see my few minutes of local fame play out: http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/mornings/tinner-hill-blues-festival-060911 Cool. Always good to see da man playin' da blues. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Sounds like it was a ball. Or several. http://weirdnews.aol.com/2011/06/10/testicle-festival-2011_n_875049.html :-)
[FairfieldLife] YO! Curtis, if you're listening..
I've been turning everyone I know onto the Decorah Eagles. We've got them on at work as an occassional diversion. Today after I took my Dad to the doctor I came in and said, Dad, I think you might enjoy this. Two and half hours later when I came to return the wallet he gave me (before his dr. visit), there he was sitting in the same place fixated on the eagles. I haven't been this interested in something since The New Yorker Scientology article. Thanks for the heads up on that one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Very informative Joe! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: I'll definitely check it out later today. Paul has always had a very keen appreciation for the sound of his records, whether solo or duo. For years he worked with the amazing sound engineer Roy Halee. Here's a decent article about Roy: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep08/articles/classictracks_0908.htm I see that Phil Ramone mixed the new album, another sure indication of quality. I'll want to get this on vinyl when it comes out (as it surely will) or high-rez digital. Audio is really going through a time of rebirth right now, not just with the vinyl revival, but also (and primarily with) computer audio. Its fun to watch the reactions of people who only know their music from MP3's or CDs when first exposed to a really good vinyl rig or 24/96 digital. Eyes widen and jaws drop as the realization sets in that real fresh squeezed orange juice is available instead of the audio Tang that they've become accustomed to. The price of entry into the high-rez world has been steadily coming down as well. Excellent quality asynchronous digital to analog converters (DACs) are available for under $200. Good times brother! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: Way to go Bill! Bill was one of my favorites from the regional coordinator days. He's been into the sky for many years.way back when he lived in (I think) the New Mexico desert where he did many beautiful cloud formation paintings. New Mexico will do that to you. :-) Even as a confirmed non-God-ist, there were sunsets that caused me to stand, clap, and shout Author! Joe, I don't know whether Paul Simon's new album is your kinda music these days, but listening to it tonight on my studio headphones, I found myself longing to hear it on your beyond-state- of-the-art sound system. It's just the most remarkably *mixed* album I've heard in years. An amazing collection of instruments, from all over the world, somehow blended and mixed such that they don't overwhelm the vocals and his still-amazing lyrics. Many thanks to Rick for posting the listen free link to this album. What a revelation. Paul is four years older than I am, and at the top of his form. I don't know about anyone else, but I find that inspiring. Dude's got chops at 69 that mus- icians a third of his age would kill for. My faves so far are The Afterlife (hilarious), the stunningly beautiful Dazzling Blue, and the Knopfler-like guitar riffs on Love and Blessings. Here are the funny lyrics to The Afterlife, clueing us all in to what we've got to look forward to. :-) After I died and the makeup had dried I went back to my place No moon that night, but a heavenly light Shown on my face Still I thought it was odd there was no sign of God Just to usher me in Then a voice from above sugarcoated with love Said, Let us begin You got to fill out a form first And then you wait in the line You got to fill out a form first And then you wait in the line Okay, new kid in school Got to follow the rule You got to learn the routine Whoa! There's a girl over there With the sunshiny hair like a homecoming queen I said Hey, what'cha say, it's a glorious day By the way, how long you been dead? Maybe you, maybe me, maybe baby makes three But she just shook her head You got to fill out a form first And then you wait in the line You got to fill out a form first And then you wait in the line Buddha and Moses and all the noses From narrow to flat Had to stand in the line Just to glimpse the divine What'cha think about that? Well, it seems like our fate To suffer and wait for the knowledge we seek It's all His design No one cuts in the line No one here likes a sneak You got to fill out a form first And then you wait in the line You got to fill out a form first And then you wait in the line After you climb up the ladder of time The Lord God is near Face-to-face in the vastness of space Your words disappear And you feel like you're swimming in an ocean of love And the current is strong But all
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Curtis and Sal - Best Nude Beaches
On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:38 PM, tartbrain wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/22/best-nude-beaches-in-the_n_652087.html#s117115 Merci, monsieur! I can see, with Barry, our usual guide to nudity and other vices, falling down a bit on the job here, that you, tart, have him covered (so to speak, of course). Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis, this sounds a lot like you... :)
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... Thanks for thinking of me Sal and if it wasn't for the being Satan thing I would jump on it! wrote: MAHARISHI UNIVERSITY OF MANAGEMENT ALUMNI ASSOCIATION OPEN POSITION ALUMNI ASSOCIATION DIRECTOR We are looking for someone who would love to work with fellow alumni! Job Description The primary job of the Director will be to build an alumni network from the ground up. This will include building the alumni database, overseeing continued development and management of the website and job network, developing an Alumni Representative program for each graduating class, managing and expanding the alumcard, organizing events, and marketing MUM to inspire, connect and reconnect alumni to the University and to each other for mutual enjoyment, growth and expansion. The Alumni Association Director will also take part in strategic planning projects with the University Administration and Trustees. Qualifications: M.U.M. Graduate Passionate about the University and working with Alumni Public Relations skills: outgoing, good communicator who can relate well to people of all ages Computer/Internet Expertise: able to work with databases, websites, Facebook, and other networking internet programs Good organizational skills: to oversee and organize projects and events Management and Leadership skills Marketing skills Be able to meet benchmarks for completing projects in designated time frames as set forth by the Alumni Board of Directors Good speaking abilities CONTACT MAHARISHI UNIVERSITY OF MANAGEMENT HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AT: Phone: 641-472-1104 Email: h...@... FOR MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT: alu...@... M.U.M., MR 455, Fairfield, Iowa 52557 641-472-1228, vm #7167
[FairfieldLife] Attention Curtis, I may have found God for you.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627550.200-enter-the-matrix-the-deep-law-that-shapes-our-reality.html?page=1 This article is for non-mathematicians. So no fears! Come on read it. Though not even mentioned in the article as a possible application of its notions, I think that the concepts of this article are extremely spiritual; they show just how deeply reality can be found to be structural. And where's there's structure, there's the possibility of instrumentality, and if that, then the word God is invigorated thereby with what might be a behind the scenes look at how a divine Mind can be operative without any restraints of materiality burdening it. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis has some tough competition
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: One man band (cigo man band) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2xOw-VXe_g Yeah, guys like this do a lot for the field's image problem! Very funny.
[FairfieldLife] For curtis
learn to play the guitar ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8Ebcx-mTnsfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Attn Curtis: 8-Year-Old Blues Guitar Prodigy Stuns Audiences
Not your ordinary second-grader - Eight-year-old Tallan Latz, of Elkhorn, is billed as the youngest performing blues guitarist in the world. and is playing gigs and racking up endorsement deals. Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGTfDf4b5oE
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on CNN
Yay Curtis! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/10/01/aif.keeping.the.blues.cnn?ire f=videosearch
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on CNN
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/10/01/aif.keeping.the.blues.cnn?ire f=videosearch Shining like a National Guitar -- Graceland, by Paul Simon From the video, it appears that at least two of Curtis' instruments are National Guitars, although there wasn't a good enough shot to see the top of the guitar to see the name of the manufacturer. Am I right, Rick? I also noted the overflowing busking basket of bills. Good for him. I wish him all the success in the world.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on CNN
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 1:06 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis Blues on CNN --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/10/01/aif.keeping.the.blues.cnn?ire f=videosearch Shining like a National Guitar -- Graceland, by Paul Simon From the video, it appears that at least two of Curtis' instruments are National Guitars, although there wasn't a good enough shot to see the top of the guitar to see the name of the manufacturer. Am I right, Rick? I don't know. Don't know much about guitars.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis is dead? Very sad news...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated. - Mark Twain and Curtis Rick, you beat me to it. Curtis, if you don't show up pretty soon, FFLife will become a cult site reporting sightings of you. No kidding. Nabby will say he spotted you in one of his crop circles. Barry will say you kicked sand in the face of a 97 pound weakling on the beaches of Sitges. Alex will say you mooned him at the University Amaco and I'll say, I hope you are well and will write home soon. Peace Brother. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated. - Mark Twain and Curtis Rick, you beat me to it. Curtis, if you don't show up pretty soon, FFLife will become a cult site reporting sightings of you. No kidding. Nabby will say he spotted you in one of his crop circles. Barry will say you kicked sand in the face of a 97 pound weakling on the beaches of Sitges. Alex will say you mooned him at the University Amaco and I'll say, I hope you are well and will write home soon. Peace Brother. And I'll say he got his ass kicked by a Shotokan master. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis is dead? Very sad news...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated. - Mark Twain and Curtis Rick, you beat me to it. Curtis, if you don't show up pretty soon, FFLife will become a cult site reporting sightings of you. No kidding. Nabby will say he spotted you in one of his crop circles. Barry will say you kicked sand in the face of a 97 pound weakling on the beaches of Sitges. Alex will say you mooned him at the University Amaco and I'll say, I hope you are well and will write home soon. Peace Brother. I fucking miss 'im thass fer shur. I had the premonition when he left for Italy -- how ya gunna keep him down on the FFL farm after he's seen that, amazing, he has two more hours in his day in which he doesn't have to spar with someone -- fucking heaven! You go boy -- soar into the light and forget the flickers of shadow here. Wingless, yet do we imagine your heights. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis is dead? Very sad news...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: [snip] Happy Birthday Curtisdeltablues. Even though he is passed away, we can still celebrate his birthday ! OffWorld Yes, we can. But I am sorry to hear that he has died. Wonderful guy. How did it happen? He just stopped posting. And that was end of it. OffWorld
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis is dead? Very sad news...
The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated. - Mark Twain and Curtis
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis is dead? Very sad news...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated. - Mark Twain and Curtis Rick, you beat me to it. Curtis, if you don't show up pretty soon, FFLife will become a cult site reporting sightings of you. No kidding. Nabby will say he spotted you in one of his crop circles. Barry will say you kicked sand in the face of a 97 pound weakling on the beaches of Sitges. Alex will say you mooned him at the University Amaco and I'll say, I hope you are well and will write home soon. Peace Brother.
[FairfieldLife] Where's Curtis? was: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip The place has kinda lost its interest for me, now that Curtis has chosen to focus on doing creative things vs. pissing his energy away here, Did Curtis formally announce his departure? What's he doing?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: So, by my definition, Sal cannot be sexy to me until I've fallen in love with all of her, not just her great tits and ass -- and I think I speak for all here that Sal MUST have great tits and ass because God wouldn't be so mean as to create a human who is so lacking in all other respects without tossing in something to balance the scales. Edg HeHe, you are probably right ! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite spiritual in a meditative way. Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience. For instance, the power of music: http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2 Thanks for the link -- she slings some neatso keeno lingo. Have you listened to her stuff and found it living up to her hype? Edg Om yeah, is a weekly group meditation with her that is by far the hottest spiritual thing going in FF. Has been for a long time. Of course, happens under the movement radar and by a word of mouth is small. Like so much of all the real spiritual practice work that is going on in the FF meditating community now. Is really pretty fabulous that way in FF as a place. Is part of the spiritual practice community. In her case she has been very helpful here in FF and also out around towards opening people's inner experience. Is a real deal. She is more humble and not really a cult-builder. Has her experience and does her work. But is good at her modalities in helping folks with their spiritual practice things life. Don't actually have to travel to far places necessarily when FF has saints like this living here. She is masterful. Has helped a lot of even the top TM people through their spiritual dull drums or energetic problems. Also helpful to people in meditation problems, where TM might leave off. Is quite experienced and is multi-faceted as a spiritual healer that way. Amazing musician talent too. That's the review from the street, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
Now, ya see? -- Doug, what with your recent flood of posts that seem to be from a true believer, and with your being in everyone's face about are you a meditator, your below review of Janet Sussman seems so extra sweet that I'm thinkin' you're pulling my leg. I finally found a sample of her piano playing, and frankly, I can play like that all day long while answering Cash Cab questions. That aside, note that I do understand that being in the presence of the artist is a whole 'nother deal, and that, given my general state of consciousness, it wouldn't be a surprise that I was unable to appreciate an ethereal artist. So, just to push you a bit further, er, would you call yourself a Sussman true believer? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite spiritual in a meditative way. Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience. For instance, the power of music: http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2 Thanks for the link -- she slings some neatso keeno lingo. Have you listened to her stuff and found it living up to her hype? Edg Om yeah, is a weekly group meditation with her that is by far the hottest spiritual thing going in FF. Has been for a long time. Of course, happens under the movement radar and by a word of mouth is small. Like so much of all the real spiritual practice work that is going on in the FF meditating community now. Is really pretty fabulous that way in FF as a place. Is part of the spiritual practice community. In her case she has been very helpful here in FF and also out around towards opening people's inner experience. Is a real deal. She is more humble and not really a cult-builder. Has her experience and does her work. But is good at her modalities in helping folks with their spiritual practice things life. Don't actually have to travel to far places necessarily when FF has saints like this living here. She is masterful. Has helped a lot of even the top TM people through their spiritual dull drums or energetic problems. Also helpful to people in meditation problems, where TM might leave off. Is quite experienced and is multi-faceted as a spiritual healer that way. Amazing musician talent too. That's the review from the street, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: Edg has one of the most commonly occurring illnesses affecting those retirees bored to tears, Vaj: a chronic and usually incurable condition known as Verbal Diarrhea, or in the case of people who can't stop typing, Keyboardus Boringitis Maximus. This condition usually manifests itself in incomprehensible, long-winded diatribes that spew forth from the sufferer's keyboard, usually without regard to the fact that almost nobody actually *reads* said tracts, and always with regard to the fact that by the end of said tracts, the sufferer is so bored himself (or herself, as the case may be) with his own nonsense that he has totally blanked out on what the original point was, and hence keeps typing away aimlessly. There is so far no known cure for this sad condition, but there is one upside (so to speak): it works as an excellent sleeping pill for those unfortunates (or saints, depending on your POV) who might actually attempt to make sense of one of these tracts, rather than simply yawning and pressing the delete button. Sal Is that so? Edg
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dhamiltony2k5 Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 7:47 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music? Om yeah, is a weekly group meditation with her that is by far the hottest spiritual thing going in FF. Has been for a long time. Of course, happens under the movement radar and by a word of mouth is small. Like so much of all the real spiritual practice work that is going on in the FF meditating community now. Is really pretty fabulous that way in FF as a place. Is part of the spiritual practice community. When and where is that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
quick Edg, call her sexy like Turqy did, and just as she now sees his verbal diarrhea as brilliant and insightful, she will see your far superior writing for what it is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Edg has one of the most commonly occurring illnesses affecting those retirees bored to tears, Vaj: a chronic and usually incurable condition known as Verbal Diarrhea, or in the case of people who can't stop typing, Keyboardus Boringitis Maximus. This condition usually manifests itself in incomprehensible, long-winded diatribes that spew forth from the sufferer's keyboard, usually without regard to the fact that almost nobody actually *reads* said tracts, and always with regard to the fact that by the end of said tracts, the sufferer is so bored himself (or herself, as the case may be) with his own nonsense that he has totally blanked out on what the original point was, and hence keeps typing away aimlessly. There is so far no known cure for this sad condition, but there is one upside (so to speak): it works as an excellent sleeping pill for those unfortunates (or saints, depending on your POV) who might actually attempt to make sense of one of these tracts, rather than simply yawning and pressing the delete button. Sal Is that so? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
In all fairness, in a moment of astoundingly rare humility, let me admit that my power of music query was, even for me, fluffy, scattered, ambling and all around Edg lite. So much so, that even Vaj had to complain. That said, what the hey, eh? If I blog here, if I overly indulge in promoting Trikkes, if I snort about the imagined-up look in some expat's eye, really, what the hey -- where's the harm? Here's my prevailing theory about why, say, Sal is so eager to be a critic about my posts: she knows that even thousands of years from now, I'll be recognized as one of the wisest of posters ever in existence, and she figure's she'll at least get some footnote in history as one of the trolls who attach themselves to Edg's greatest by any means. Ahh, that was fun just typing it! As for anyone seeming sexy to me, geeze, I don't even pick up the swimsuit edition of Sports Illustrated at the newstand and fan it for a quickie titter-giggle. I don't know how it happened, but I turned into an old man somewhere along the line, such that, while a hawt bod can get me to pause when viewing a bevy, the second thought never comes now. The parts of me that once invested in such fantasies have discovered that investment in such entertainments always leads to a final reality check that poofs the thought balloon above my cartoon head. Nope, me needs a real relationship if I'm going to see someone as sexy. It's the same deal with being a side-walk artist with one's wares hung on a fence for passers-by -- the viewers that pause and peer closely, those are the ones to whom the artist introduces him/herself. Just so, who wants a stranger sucking on your dick when you can have someone who really really really knows all about your darkside and yet still wants physical intimacy? No competition at all, see? So, by my definition, Sal cannot be sexy to me until I've fallen in love with all of her, not just her great tits and ass -- and I think I speak for all here that Sal MUST have great tits and ass because God wouldn't be so mean as to create a human who is so lacking in all other respects without tossing in something to balance the scales. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: quick Edg, call her sexy like Turqy did, and just as she now sees his verbal diarrhea as brilliant and insightful, she will see your far superior writing for what it is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Edg has one of the most commonly occurring illnesses affecting those retirees bored to tears, Vaj: a chronic and usually incurable condition known as Verbal Diarrhea, or in the case of people who can't stop typing, Keyboardus Boringitis Maximus. This condition usually manifests itself in incomprehensible, long-winded diatribes that spew forth from the sufferer's keyboard, usually without regard to the fact that almost nobody actually *reads* said tracts, and always with regard to the fact that by the end of said tracts, the sufferer is so bored himself (or herself, as the case may be) with his own nonsense that he has totally blanked out on what the original point was, and hence keeps typing away aimlessly. There is so far no known cure for this sad condition, but there is one upside (so to speak): it works as an excellent sleeping pill for those unfortunates (or saints, depending on your POV) who might actually attempt to make sense of one of these tracts, rather than simply yawning and pressing the delete button. Sal Is that so? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite spiritual in a meditative way. Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience. For instance, the power of music: http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2 Thanks for the link -- she slings some neatso keeno lingo. I tried to get one of her songs to play, but my computer started choking on the process, and after about ten minutes of futzing around, I gave up getting Rhapsody to run correctly on my machine. I tried google and still couldn't find any online samples of her stuff. I cannot imagine that her singing/playing has any instantly magical dynamics that are self-evidently validating her dogmaso many singers in history and not one yet has grabbed my psyche in any therapeutically obvious way, so what are the chances that she has mojo? Have you listened to her stuff and found it living up to her hype? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Curtis, Hopefully you're lurking. There's a mystery about music that perhaps you've considered far more deeply than I have; it's that music is so unfailingly meaningful yet has such severe limitations on where its buzz-yer-brain qualities are useful for impacting reality. Play even one measure of ANY piece of music and have ANYONE listen to it, and that person will have a point of view about the music's meaning to him/her. The music will be easily characterized by any listener in a fashion that is consistent within for them -- but not necessarily mono-meaningfully consistent socially speaking. Even a young child can tell you if a few notes are happy or sad, or whatever, and their inner musical-Rosetta-Stone will be remarkably consistent in labeling other musical passages. Whether it is merely the beat or the voices/instruments used or whatever, it seems that each piece of music is utterly unique and unwaveringly precise in its presentation of message to listeners, yet everyone understands any music the very first time it is played. Not that any two listeners will agree on what words best describe a piece of music, but that each person will have some sort of inner process that seems to be rule driven and idiosyncratic. Given the absolutism of music on a personal level -- meaning: the same music will produce the same brain response for at least a few repetitions before jaded becomes an eroding dynamic -- I'm mystified that music has not been very potent as a psychologically therapeutic tool. It's the old music soothes the savage breast concept. Why can't music be used to impact psychology very strongly when it seems to have such power to symbolize -- nay, even embody and be -- emotions? Music is so emotional that I find it hard to believe that emotions in general are not perceived as musical. If I'm feeling an emotion, say, love, it seems like music is playing in that my mind has a soundtrack that harmonizes with conceptual content (lyrics?) Yet, it is rare to have folks describe their feelings with musical terminology, e.g. I'm feeling sotto voce stacatto love. It might be a cool thingie, eh? My main question is: we know that we can get a crowd all tapping their feet and seemingly having the same emotions when listening to a piece, but we also know that the priest along with the serial killer in the crowd -- though sharing a musically triggered mood -- do not come away from the listening experience with any measurable change in their personalities -- so, WHY NOT? How can music have such power to trigger one's inner state, but be so seemingly impotent when it comes to having a measurable impact. I don't see any school of psychology doing anything like, say, the torture technique in A Clockwork Orange by pouring music and imagery into a brain and having that impact personality. I see no evidence of music soothing any breasts at all except while the music is being actually played. To me it is astounding that someone can listen to a full orchestration of a symphony by Mozart and not be driven sane. Where's the beef, ya know? Why doesn't music stick? My working theory is that music, like ordinary life experiences, can have a power to gradually nudge a personality, but that it would take a hell of a lot to get measurable results. Maybe if a person tried to mindfully listen to Mozart in a nuanced fashion like initiators are trained to be mindfully listening to the puja as they sing it, then Mozart could be a great healer. Don't know -- and so I ask your opinion. Edg in that music that they interpret as, say, happy, will be found The innate ability to appreciate music...to appreciate harmony or disharmony... The power of sound, in and of itself...the power of the sound quality of the mantras. The way emotion gets involved with sound... The way the art of music reflects the culture... 'The music of the Sixties'. A feeling for a second: Love is all you need. The music of the lately... 'Gansta Rap' 'Heavy Metal'... 'Grunge Punk' Yucky Music of no harmony... Reflects pants down around the knees... Prison population, feelings of anger and hopelessness... Confusion, chaos, meaninglessness Like everything is a joke man, just ask Jon Stewart of the C.Report... Everything is just a video game man! Nothing is real...it's all electronic images on a screeen... 'Don't ask, don't tell, man... Shut up, and listen to the rap, man... You can listen to Mozart all you want, But when they tell you to eat cake, when you have no bread... Things start getting out of hand... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite spiritual in a meditative way. Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience. For instance, the power of music: http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2
[FairfieldLife] Where's Curtis? (was: Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: I think Curtis could put your commie list to blues music and it would be a side splitter. Speaking of Curtis, he hasn't posted since April 28. I hope everything's OK in the Curtis Continuum.
[FairfieldLife] Where's Curtis? (was: Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind)
He went to Italy for a couple weeks. We should have a welcome home party when he returns. But will he return? How ya gunna keep Curt down in the harm after he's see 'taly? Come Christmas, if he's not back, we'll miss our Little Strummer Boy. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I think Curtis could put your commie list to blues music and it would be a side splitter. Speaking of Curtis, he hasn't posted since April 28. I hope everything's OK in the Curtis Continuum.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where's Curtis? (was: Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind)
He's in northern Italy. I just heard from him last week and he had just played at a jazz festival there and was digging the food immensely. Leaves today I believe. On May 11, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: I think Curtis could put your commie list to blues music and it would be a side splitter. Speaking of Curtis, he hasn't posted since April 28. I hope everything's OK in the Curtis Continuum.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where's Curtis? (was: Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind)
On May 11, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: Speaking of Curtis, he hasn't posted since April 28. I hope everything's OK in the Curtis Continuum. He's in Florence, undoubtedly doing the same unspeakable things to the minds of innocent young women there that Barry is doing in Spain. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Where's Curtis? (was: Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On May 11, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: Speaking of Curtis, he hasn't posted since April 28. I hope everything's OK in the Curtis Continuum. He's in Florence, undoubtedly doing the same unspeakable things to the minds of innocent young women there that Barry is doing in Spain. Not *exactly* the same unspeakable things. :-) We decided to team up on this one. Curtis will find young, weak, impressionable young women there in Florence and seduce them using his wise old man ways, leaving them almost completely shattered from his evilnessitude. Then he'll pass them along to me, and I'll finish the job. Then we intend to coerce them into working for us as strippers in a club near where Edg lives. We know that'll drive him even more crazy than usual, knowing they're there being predated upon and that he can't do anything to save them. It's all part of our master plan to help him with his plan to control how much oomph he puts into attachments. When he can finally deal with this one with a shrug or laugh instead of anger, he'll be ready to leave the monastery and walk the earth, like Caine in Kung-fu. Then again, the day Edg can control how much oomph he puts into his attachments and react to stuff like this with a shrug or laugh instead of anger, he'll be ready to drop in to one of our strip clubs and get a lap dance. But we're not going to tell the ladies to expect him anytime soon... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Where's Curtis? (was: Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On May 11, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: Speaking of Curtis, he hasn't posted since April 28. I hope everything's OK in the Curtis Continuum. He's in Florence, undoubtedly doing the same unspeakable things to the minds of innocent young women there that Barry is doing in Spain. Sal Curtis is a very holistic guy. He is doing unspeakable things with the totality of these fortunate young women.
Re: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar
Thanks - will check it out. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:18 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar Kirk, here's a guitar recommendation from a friend of mine: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation/silver-creek-violins-stands-upright-bass?N=11+202733 open the above link and scroll down past the violins to the guitars. the brand is silver creek and it's available at musiciansfriend.com. i still play mine everyday and it sounds better than any guitar i've ever owned, including a vintage martin i once had. there's one caveat, you need to do your own set up (not hard), which is always the case on a mail order guitar. this means you need to adjust the neck and shave the bridge down to the proper height, and if you're really picky level the frets too. if you don't know how a luthier will do this for a very reasonable price, just ask for a set up. i have the silver creek t-160 (mahogany) for $299. i dickered over the phone and got a substantial discount off even this great price. these are solid wood tops, sides and backs with a dovetailed one-piece neck which makes them sound great. i'd buy another one in heartbeat if i had to replace mine. read the reviews on the t-170 (rosewood). it's sound like it's even better than mine for just a little more money. the d-160 and d-170 (d is for dreadnought) are big a have good volume for strumming a flat picking. the t-160 and t-170 are smaller bodied, have a tight bass and sweet sound for finger picking, which is my style of playing, like led zeppelin, beatles, lynard skynard, clapton, pink floyd, etc. even and expensive mail order guitar will usually need a set up. otherwise, you'll be somewhat disappointed. read the reviews.
Re: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar
Alright far out. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:14 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar you may want to post this too. the basic set up i do is to tighten the truss rod fully by turning the screw in the sound hole counter clockwise all the way. don't over tighten or you'll strip the threads. you can then check the arc of the neck by pressing the strings at the first fret and last fret for clearance. then i remove and shave or sand the bottom of the bridge saddle until the strings are low enough for easy play without fret buzz. (a good luthier will measure the string heights during each step of the process, but i never measure. he'll also put a straight edge on the frets and tap the high ones to the right height, but i'm not that picky.) over sand the saddle and you can shim it back up, or buy a new saddle and start again. that's usually all you need to do. i leave the truss rod fully tightened and lower the saddle more to compensate, but that's just my preferrence. i seem to get less fret buzz and lower clearance that way. if you do a search, i'm sure the proper measurements and procedures are available all over the internet. this is a cheap guitar. if i had an expensive guitar, i'd let a pro do the set up for me.
RE: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar
Kirk, here's a guitar recommendation from a friend of mine: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation/silver-creek-violins-stands-uprigh t-bass?N=11+202733 open the above link and scroll down past the violins to the guitars. the brand is silver creek and it's available at musiciansfriend.com. i still play mine everyday and it sounds better than any guitar i've ever owned, including a vintage martin i once had. there's one caveat, you need to do your own set up (not hard), which is always the case on a mail order guitar. this means you need to adjust the neck and shave the bridge down to the proper height, and if you're really picky level the frets too. if you don't know how a luthier will do this for a very reasonable price, just ask for a set up. i have the silver creek t-160 (mahogany) for $299. i dickered over the phone and got a substantial discount off even this great price. these are solid wood tops, sides and backs with a dovetailed one-piece neck which makes them sound great. i'd buy another one in heartbeat if i had to replace mine. read the reviews on the t-170 (rosewood). it's sound like it's even better than mine for just a little more money. the d-160 and d-170 (d is for dreadnought) are big a have good volume for strumming a flat picking. the t-160 and t-170 are smaller bodied, have a tight bass and sweet sound for finger picking, which is my style of playing, like led zeppelin, beatles, lynard skynard, clapton, pink floyd, etc. even and expensive mail order guitar will usually need a set up. otherwise, you'll be somewhat disappointed. read the reviews.
Re: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar
Made in China. On Mar 2, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Kirk, here's a guitar recommendation from a friend of mine: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation/silver-creek-violins- stands-upright-bass?N=11+202733 open the above link and scroll down past the violins to the guitars. the brand is silver creek and it's available at musiciansfriend.com. i still play mine everyday and it sounds better than any guitar i've ever owned, including a vintage martin i once had. there's one caveat, you need to do your own set up (not hard), which is always the case on a mail order guitar. this means you need to adjust the neck and shave the bridge down to the proper height, and if you're really picky level the frets too. if you don't know how a luthier will do this for a very reasonable price, just ask for a set up. i have the silver creek t-160 (mahogany) for $299. i dickered over the phone and got a substantial discount off even this great price. these are solid wood tops, sides and backs with a dovetailed one-piece neck which makes them sound great. i'd buy another one in heartbeat if i had to replace mine. read the reviews on the t-170 (rosewood). it's sound like it's even better than mine for just a little more money. the d-160 and d-170 (d is for dreadnought) are big a have good volume for strumming a flat picking. the t-160 and t-170 are smaller bodied, have a tight bass and sweet sound for finger picking, which is my style of playing, like led zeppelin, beatles, lynard skynard, clapton, pink floyd, etc. even and expensive mail order guitar will usually need a set up. otherwise, you'll be somewhat disappointed. read the reviews.
RE: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar
Made in China. Maybe so, but this guy raves about it. On Mar 2, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Kirk, here's a guitar recommendation from a friend of mine: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation/silver-creek-violins-stands-uprigh t-bass?N=11+202733 open the above link and scroll down past the violins to the guitars. the brand is silver creek and it's available at musiciansfriend.com. i still play mine everyday and it sounds better than any guitar i've ever owned, including a vintage martin i once had. there's one caveat, you need to do your own set up (not hard), which is always the case on a mail order guitar. this means you need to adjust the neck and shave the bridge down to the proper height, and if you're really picky level the frets too. if you don't know how a luthier will do this for a very reasonable price, just ask for a set up. i have the silver creek t-160 (mahogany) for $299. i dickered over the phone and got a substantial discount off even this great price. these are solid wood tops, sides and backs with a dovetailed one-piece neck which makes them sound great. i'd buy another one in heartbeat if i had to replace mine. read the reviews on the t-170 (rosewood). it's sound like it's even better than mine for just a little more money. the d-160 and d-170 (d is for dreadnought) are big a have good volume for strumming a flat picking. the t-160 and t-170 are smaller bodied, have a tight bass and sweet sound for finger picking, which is my style of playing, like led zeppelin, beatles, lynard skynard, clapton, pink floyd, etc. even and expensive mail order guitar will usually need a set up. otherwise, you'll be somewhat disappointed. read the reviews. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.5/1979 - Release Date: 03/01/09 17:46:00
RE: [FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar
you may want to post this too. the basic set up i do is to tighten the truss rod fully by turning the screw in the sound hole counter clockwise all the way. don't over tighten or you'll strip the threads. you can then check the arc of the neck by pressing the strings at the first fret and last fret for clearance. then i remove and shave or sand the bottom of the bridge saddle until the strings are low enough for easy play without fret buzz. (a good luthier will measure the string heights during each step of the process, but i never measure. he'll also put a straight edge on the frets and tap the high ones to the right height, but i'm not that picky.) over sand the saddle and you can shim it back up, or buy a new saddle and start again. that's usually all you need to do. i leave the truss rod fully tightened and lower the saddle more to compensate, but that's just my preferrence. i seem to get less fret buzz and lower clearance that way. if you do a search, i'm sure the proper measurements and procedures are available all over the internet. this is a cheap guitar. if i had an expensive guitar, i'd let a pro do the set up for me.
[FairfieldLife] To Curtis re Guitar
So say you decided to learn guitar at 50. Do you suppose a good sounding guitar wuld proote practice and how as a non music reader would you go about it. consider because as a fan you would just wanto to do it but to do it well. Or something. Sory if this is too basic. What's a really good lesser expensive guitar, probably acoustic or steel string.
[FairfieldLife] Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek -- copywrite morals?
ruthsimplicity wrote: Reproducing an entire article without permission of the author is copyright infringement, even if you give the author credit. Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek, I would be grateful if you folks would do some posting about the copyright issue. I have read about this online, but each of you have some credentials that pertain, so I'm asking you if each of you have come to terms with your own morality about this. I think Ruth told the above to our Osho dude to smack him for his morals -- calling attention to the fact that he is using the words of others for spamming us, but how much does she ACTUALLY resonate with the copyright laws? Ruth? I don't have clarity about my own stance on this since I am an owner of copyright material that enjoys a cash flow from the Internet, but I will cut and paste just about anything from anyone if it suits me, say, for public posting purposes. Many here do this. However, I would never pass off the writing of others as my own or try to include copyrighted material in any money making effort without getting full permission from the author. My worse sin: I sometimes do not always included a copyright notice with my cut and pastes. My morals are shaky at best, eh? Hard to toss a stone at our newest spammer therefore. Stone him for spamming, yes, but for copyright infringement? Eh, not so much. When I google my copy-written material, almost never do I find that the unauthorized online use of it is offensive to me -- even if someone is deriding it or not including my name as the author. I figure, while the stealing is at its present low level, it serves mainly to advertise and build my brand. That said, if any of my stuff got hot, and suddenly everyone was using it, then I would begin to fret that this over-use was diverting paying-customers to where they can get my stuff for free. What to do? Practically speaking, I've opted to put stuff out there and let the material be used in any way -- brand building -- and if an audience is discovered, then, I will still have my brain and will still be able to produce yet more NEW material that can be more tightly controlled and sold -- this is the porn industry strategy, yes? Tease 'em, then sell 'em. However, those kids who enjoy cash flow from, say, a parent's one-hit-wonder would disagree since they would have no new material to sell. I'm still at odds for how I would set up today's laws. I really want creative artists to own their material, but I think they have to be far more liberal in how their stuff is used. There's tons of artists like that graffiti guy who literally painted on buildings for free but finally got discovered and now can get boo-koo bux for his original, NEW, material. I like this model, because those who have the chops can build a market and then finally make a decent living, whereas others who do not get an audience will have to see their material being used without any permission. This way, the world decides what is valuable enough, tells the author so, and the author then can stop the flow of freebies and start cashing in. For instance, at youtube, I've put up trikking videos using popular songs for the background music. So far, four of those have been contested by the copyright owners. Okay, fair enough, so I don't use those songs again, but is this a solution -- no harm/no foul but cease use of material upon demand? No, I can think of loop holes in that scenario too. I'm using songs that long ago were marketed so the main profits were gained when the song first hit the streets, but they still enjoy some revenues from various sources, and the estate owners issue thereby arises, so, yep, I'm possibly reducing their cash flow, but not really, because I would never be their customer and put out the bux they'd want for the small use I have for their songs. And, there's scant mechanism to buy limited use rights from most of the owners out there. If there was some sort of set-up where I could purchase use for up to, say, 50,000 youtube views, for, say, $10, I'd pay it! So there my solution -- a micro-marketing, penny collecting, system. I've actually done that, by the way. I paid thousands for the use of a few dozens photographs, so I have been legal when dollars were afoot. Trying to be legal and fair, but I feel that the present laws are not fit for today's massive communication structures and the present state of democracy on the Internet. Also, it's a spiritual problem in that authorship rights becomes questionable in certain scenarios -- who really owns their thoughts that arise from nowhere? -- and, if I discover a cancer cure, and I only dole out the medicine for a million dollars a dose, I might be legal, but surely I am immoral, yes? Suggestions? Edg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek -- copywrite morals?
Duveyoung wrote: ruthsimplicity wrote: Reproducing an entire article without permission of the author is copyright infringement, even if you give the author credit. Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek, I would be grateful if you folks would do some posting about the copyright issue. I have read about this online, but each of you have some credentials that pertain, so I'm asking you if each of you have come to terms with your own morality about this. I think Ruth told the above to our Osho dude to smack him for his morals -- calling attention to the fact that he is using the words of others for spamming us, but how much does she ACTUALLY resonate with the copyright laws? Ruth? I don't have clarity about my own stance on this since I am an owner of copyright material that enjoys a cash flow from the Internet, but I will cut and paste just about anything from anyone if it suits me, say, for public posting purposes. Many here do this. However, I would never pass off the writing of others as my own or try to include copyrighted material in any money making effort without getting full permission from the author. My worse sin: I sometimes do not always included a copyright notice with my cut and pastes. My morals are shaky at best, eh? Hard to toss a stone at our newest spammer therefore. Stone him for spamming, yes, but for copyright infringement? Eh, not so much. When I google my copy-written material, almost never do I find that the unauthorized online use of it is offensive to me -- even if someone is deriding it or not including my name as the author. I figure, while the stealing is at its present low level, it serves mainly to advertise and build my brand. That said, if any of my stuff got hot, and suddenly everyone was using it, then I would begin to fret that this over-use was diverting paying-customers to where they can get my stuff for free. What to do? Practically speaking, I've opted to put stuff out there and let the material be used in any way -- brand building -- and if an audience is discovered, then, I will still have my brain and will still be able to produce yet more NEW material that can be more tightly controlled and sold -- this is the porn industry strategy, yes? Tease 'em, then sell 'em. However, those kids who enjoy cash flow from, say, a parent's one-hit-wonder would disagree since they would have no new material to sell. I'm still at odds for how I would set up today's laws. I really want creative artists to own their material, but I think they have to be far more liberal in how their stuff is used. There's tons of artists like that graffiti guy who literally painted on buildings for free but finally got discovered and now can get boo-koo bux for his original, NEW, material. I like this model, because those who have the chops can build a market and then finally make a decent living, whereas others who do not get an audience will have to see their material being used without any permission. This way, the world decides what is valuable enough, tells the author so, and the author then can stop the flow of freebies and start cashing in. For instance, at youtube, I've put up trikking videos using popular songs for the background music. So far, four of those have been contested by the copyright owners. Okay, fair enough, so I don't use those songs again, but is this a solution -- no harm/no foul but cease use of material upon demand? No, I can think of loop holes in that scenario too. I'm using songs that long ago were marketed so the main profits were gained when the song first hit the streets, but they still enjoy some revenues from various sources, and the estate owners issue thereby arises, so, yep, I'm possibly reducing their cash flow, but not really, because I would never be their customer and put out the bux they'd want for the small use I have for their songs. And, there's scant mechanism to buy limited use rights from most of the owners out there. If there was some sort of set-up where I could purchase use for up to, say, 50,000 youtube views, for, say, $10, I'd pay it! So there my solution -- a micro-marketing, penny collecting, system. I've actually done that, by the way. I paid thousands for the use of a few dozens photographs, so I have been legal when dollars were afoot. Trying to be legal and fair, but I feel that the present laws are not fit for today's massive communication structures and the present state of democracy on the Internet. Also, it's a spiritual problem in that authorship rights becomes questionable in certain scenarios -- who really owns their thoughts that arise from nowhere? -- and, if I discover a cancer cure, and I only dole out the medicine for a million dollars a dose, I might be legal, but surely I am immoral, yes? Suggestions? Edg The Mickey Mouse Law or what is known as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) took away
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
Curtis wrote: I have a vague memory of him accusing that person of being someone else? I haven't followed that closely enough to comment... Steve Perino DID NOT have sleep apnea. Judy wrote: That's the double standard I was talking about. The double standard of Vaj, Barry, and Curtis? During TM practice he displayed exceptionally high ampli-tude alpha spindles across all EEG channels and periods of respiratory suspension (Kesterson, 1985). Source: Psychological Content of Consciousness During Sleep in a TM Practitioner: Jayne Gackenbach and William Moorecraft http://tinyurl.com/6mtkjn 'Conscious Mind, Sleeping Brain' by J. Gackenbach Springer, 1988 http://tinyurl.com/59dnne Kesterson and Clinch report that the reduction in respiration during the breath slowing is not due to a reduction in metabolic rate, as was previously thought, 2 but rather due to a significant drop in the respiratory exchange ratio (the ratio of the amount of carbon dioxide produced by the body to the amount of oxygen consumed). Read more: 'The Issue: Isn't transcendental consciousness just a metaphysical concept?' http://tinyurl.com/6pl4xv 'The Physical and Psychological Effects of Meditation' http://tinyurl.com/5ndtzv
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Curtis wrote: I have a vague memory of him accusing that person of being someone else? I haven't followed that closely enough to comment... Steve Perino DID NOT have sleep apnea. Actually he did. And as predicted by Ruth and me: the TMO was cherry-picking sleep witnessers and got a sleep apnea patient. In his case probably central sleep apnea, which fits his subjective description to a tee. Actual true sleep witnessing is quite pleasurable, the opposite of his experience! Go figure. Surprise, surprise: more phony TM research.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
My point is that you let all kinds of crap, flat-out lying and gross unfairness, go by with Barry and Vaj because, as you told me recently, you have offlist contact with them and therefore know them better as people. But I don't lie, and I do my best not to be unfair, and you jump on me when your idea of fairness doesn't happen to quite coincide with mine. That's the double standard I was talking about. I gave what you wrote some thought Judy. I was thinking about how I relate to different people here and why I would challenge you on what I perceive to be a falsehood, but I don't approach some other writers here with that filter on. Barry and Vaj and many other people here never make personal comments about me in that personal evaluation style that characterizes so many of your posts. For example in this exchange I basically said you are lying and you are commenting on me having a double standard because I don't write this way to some others. We are communicating in the same personally accusing style. I would not call Barry and Vaj on something like this because they don't communicate with me that way ever. I read your posts with this filter on, sort of a petty gotcha game. There are only a few other writers who I communicate in such a petty way. I'm not blaming you for how I am acting, I am trying to understand why I do it, and I think this is it. I'm ready to own my part of what is going on. Even though I have respectful interesting discussions with you here, I am never sure that your next response wont be a personal comment on my character or just some negitive spin on who I am or how I present myself here. So you have not established personal trust in the way some others have. Barry and Vaj know that even when I disagree with them, I will always make sure they understand that it is in the context of liking them, so it stays very friendly. Neither of them have ever taken a personal shot at me. We post to each other within a bubble of good will and I trust it. As I go though the list of how I communicate with people here I can pretty much group them that way. Those who have taken a personal shot in varying degrees of vitriol, and those who have not. And for anyone who has, I tend to respond to what they write in a petty way as in gotcha. And the cycle goes on and on. With you we have plenty of good exchanges that don't end this way, but when you break the ceasefire, I feel a bit betrayed. Perhaps you do too when I make such a comment on you. But I am always aware that the next post may be an unflattering characterization of me and a dismissal of me personally. I'm sure there are other useful distinctions to make. And none of this is about you changing. It is about the choices I am making with how I communicate with everyone here and how I want that to look for this New Year. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip and you don't seem to have any problem with Vaj making up a story about coldbluice out of whole cloth. I have a vague memory of him accusing that person of being someone else? I haven't followed that closely enough to comment. I've made at least a half-dozen posts on that, two of them containing quotes from the contradictory posts. How could you have missed all of them? No, it has nothing to do with accusing coldbluice of being someone else. It has to do with Vaj having blatantly misrepresented what coldbluice had reported of his experiences, telling an entirely different story, as if from what coldbluice had said, when in fact he had said something virtually the opposite. But if I use the word tweak rather than shot to describe one of my posts, that's dishonest and warrants a long scolding from you. That got my attention because I read almost all your posts not directed to Barry. Except those directed at Vaj, apparently. I thought that you were being unfair by taunting John, and then when he responded in defense, you claimed he STARTED it. Well, we never finished that discussion. You didn't respond to my last post in it. I think you way exaggerated my sin in that instance. My point is that you let all kinds of crap, flat-out lying and gross unfairness, go by with Barry and Vaj because, as you told me recently, you have offlist contact with them and therefore know them better as people. But I don't lie, and I do my best not to be unfair, and you jump on me when your idea of fairness doesn't happen to quite coincide with mine. That's the double standard I was talking about.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: snip Steve Perino DID NOT have sleep apnea. Actually he did. Not according to Steve Perino (aka coldbluice). In April, Vaj asked him if he had ever been diagnosed with sleep apnea. Here's what he said: About 1-1/2 yrs ago by a anathesiologist and a ER nurse said i had 'sleep apnea'..when i went in the hospital for a routine minor surgery..The doctors could not figure out why i did not breath when i was sleeping. It's pretty clear from the way he phrases this that he thought the diagnosis was absurd. But Vaj wants us to believe otherwise: And as predicted by Ruth and me: the TMO was cherry- picking sleep witnessers and got a sleep apnea patient. In his case probably central sleep apnea, which fits his subjective description to a tee. But in the very same post, just before he responds to Vaj's question about sleep apnea, SP says: - The study i was involved in was in regards to witnessing during sleep..i told the researchers that i could from deep sleep control autonomic funtions. Dr. Skip Alexander, PhD miu..first interviewed me for that study-(witnessing deep sleep)..which i proved conclusively that i was being honest. Later (in Summer or 1988) i advised Dr. Skip Alexander, PhD miunot use any of my research for tmo federally funded grants. The scientifically validated control of autonomic functions that i demonstrated i.e.-- g.s.r/core body temp. heart rate breath suspension were done from deep sleep. The study's original protocal-,i was to use a pre- determined signal(as series of rapid eye movements) to indicate to the researchers when i as witnessing deep sleep. Then i suggested that i would signal from 'witnessing sleep that i was to begin controlled periods of breath suspension lowered core body temp heart rate. Later the study evolved into something completely different..Dr. Steven La Berge, PhD of Stanford Univ. (now the with Lucidity Instiute) wanted me to do all sorts of things that the tmo did NOT APPROVE of.. Interestingly, Dr La Berge said at that time that of the thousands of magnetic sleep records he examined mine was the MOST UNIQUE!! - As far as SP is concerned, whether it's true or not, he was not only intentionally controlling his breathing while in deep sleep, but was signaling with eye movements that he was about to suspend his breathing. And this is the description that Vaj thinks fits central sleep apnea to a tee?? In his recent post, Vaj goes even further: From our conversations, it wasn't he who was so interested in the breath suspension, other than to get some understanding of what was going on. He was lead to believe it was related to his state of consciousness. Sadly, that was not the case--he was mislead. It turned out he wasn't in some 'higher' state of consciousness, but one suffering from a severe form of sleep apnea. Nor was he someone who was yogically conscious during deep sleep. Again, this is completely contrary to what SP told Vaj in their April conversation. The point here isn't whether the TMO boggled or fudged the research, nor is it whether SP actually had sleep apnea. It's that Vaj has attributed to SP things he never said, when SP in fact (and on the record) said *to the contrary*. Maybe SP did have sleep apnea. But Vaj doesn't *know* that, he's just guessing, despite claiming a number of times that he did as if it were a matter of established fact. And again, SP himself clearly thinks otherwise. He believes he was able to control his autonomic functions, including by suspending his breathing, in a deep sleep state, and believes he proved it scientifically.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: As I go though the list of how I communicate with people here I can pretty much group them that way. Those who have taken a personal shot in varying degrees of vitriol, and those who have not. What I have noticed, Curtis (and making this a generic rap, not about anyone in particular), is that the personal shots tend to happen immediately after you have presented an idea that causes the personal shotters some cognitive dissonance because it conflicts with and challenges an idea that they hold to be true. I think I know you well enough to know that most of the time when you present such ideas, to you they are Just Ideas. They're an interesting new way of approaching a subject and looking at it. But it's as if a few people here react to them as if the idea itself *caused them pain*. And in a sense it did. Cognitive dissonance -- encountering an idea that, if true, renders one of your own ideas false or at the very least not as true -- is perceived by some AS pain. I think the issue is that we don't perceive these ideas that way. To us they're Just Ideas. And after all this time thinking about and analyzing our exper- iences with meditation and various follies along the spiritual path or just life path, the out of the box ideas are Just Another Way Of Looking At Things, no biggie. When we think about one of these ideas -- say the implicit wrongness of the caste system, or the unden- iable sexism of a tradition that wouldn't even allow women to be near it -- we DON'T tend to feel pain. No cognitive dissonance arises at all because we are years or decades away from justifying the caste system just because Maharishi did, or ignoring the sexism of the Shankaracharya tradition because we still identify with it and consider ourselves part of it. But others don't have that distance on things, and when they encounter ideas that to us are Just Ideas, they perceive them as ATTACKS, because what they feel inside when they hear these ideas is pain. We didn't cause the pain; all we did is present an idea. But to them the idea ITSELF causes pain, because it causes cognitive dissonance. So in their mindes we are very definitely the cause of their pain, because we said the horrible, offensive, unforgivable thing that they consider heresy. If our idea that the caste system is wrong has merit, then Maharishi's defense of it his entire life may have less merit, or be actually w...w...w...wrong. If our idea that Guru Dev and other teachers within the Shankaracharya tradition just might have been being less than honest about their desire for the liberation of their fellow man by restricting their teachings to...uh... their fellow MAN, with no women allowed, then maybe they weren't the perfect saints they've been portrayed to be. I suspect that contemplating either of these ideas doesn't raise a single hair on your neck or cause you the least amount of pain. They certainly don't cause me any dis- comfort in the least. But these same ideas cause some people so MUCH pain that their first impulse -- an impulse that they seemingly cannot control -- is to lash out and aim a well-placed personal shot across your bow. On the whole, I think you've dealt with such cheap shots better than I have, and with consistent grace and humor. A great deal more grace and humor than the ones *taking* the cheap shots have, that's fer damned sure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: snip For example in this exchange I basically said you are lying and you are commenting on me having a double standard because I don't write this way to some others. We are communicating in the same personally accusing style. I would not call Barry and Vaj on something like this because they don't communicate with me that way ever. I read your posts with this filter on, sort of a petty gotcha game. There are only a few other writers who I communicate in such a petty way. I'm not blaming you for how I am acting, I am trying to understand why I do it, and I think this is it. I'm ready to own my part of what is going on. I appreciate your taking the time to ponder this and to take responsibility for it, but from my perspective, I don't think you're owning all of your part in it yet. Several points: As far as I'm concerned, a person who aims to be fair gets only partial credit if they respond to unfairness only when it's directed at them. But you're not even consistent along that line. It's one thing for you to retaliate in kind in a discussion you're having with me. (I very rarely give you a basis for retaliating except when we're in the middle of a discussion and I think you aren't playing fair with me.) In this case, though--and in several others recently--you jumped on me because you thought I was being unfair *to others*. Further, I object to your suggestion of moral equivalency. What Vaj and, especially, Barry say in their attacks on me and others is far, far worse than anything I've ever said to them or to anybody else, including to you. I guess I don't understand how you can be so sanguine and jolly about your friendship wih Barry and Vaj when they're both so vicious and dishonest. How can you form a genuine friendship with people like that, even if they restrain themselves when they're interacting with you? To me, that seems grossly hypocritical. snip Neither of them have ever taken a personal shot at me. We post to each other within a bubble of good will and I trust it. I'm not sure Barry's recent criticism of you for your purportedly hewing to the TM mindset in the discussion of reincarnation was all that full of good will, and it seemed awfully personal to me. I thought it was grossly unfair and off target when I read it, and I'd have pointed that out if you hadn't done so yourself. snip I'm sure there are other useful distinctions to make. And none of this is about you changing. It is about the choices I am making with how I communicate with everyone here and how I want that to look for this New Year. I respect that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: As I go though the list of how I communicate with people here I can pretty much group them that way. Those who have taken a personal shot in varying degrees of vitriol, and those who have not. What I have noticed, Curtis (and making this a generic rap, not about anyone in particular), is that the personal shots tend to happen immediately after you have presented an idea that causes the personal shotters some cognitive dissonance because it conflicts with and challenges an idea that they hold to be true. You mean, like this? Curtis, do you realize how much of the 'TM mindset' underlies what you are saying above? Both you and Stu are going on and on about the 'burden of proof.' That might be relevant to New Jim, who is making some silly claims about 'proof' of reincarnation, but you are extending it to anyone who happens to quietly believe in reincarnation and doesn't really give a rat's ass what you believe. We don't owe you 'proof.' We don't owe you jack shit.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
On Dec 15, 2008, at 1:28 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: An anesthesiologist told him of the sleep apnea, yes? (If you don't breathe for 10 seconds when sleeping, that is apnea.) I haven't read much of what coldblueice has written, so I don't know all of what he has described. In any event, physical causes for his experiences cannot be ruled out, including the witnessing experiences. Sleep apnea effects brain waves as well as having other physical effects, so he shouldn't be a TM research subject. If I were him, I would have a sleep study. He already has. As I said before, you would (of course) have to rule out any incidence of obstructive or central sleep apnea (or other possible etiologies) before making any further observations and conclusion. They'd have to clear certain Somnological criteria. This is especially the case when people are self-selecting in a anyone who witnesses during sleep, please contact us -type fashion. The experiential difference between yoganidra--yogic sleep--and the I'm almost awake, I'm almost asleep limbo quality of sleep in sleep apnea is easy to differentiate. In one it's like torture, in the other you rest in the bliss-sheath and abide over a calm void. In one you wake up groggy or with a headache, in the other you're more energized than the deepest of regular sleep. There are other anecdotal reports of TM night technique practitioners who also experienced the results of that practice as a sleep disturbance. I have been trying to track down some TM research subjects. If anyone knows of any, email me at ruthsimplic...@yahoo.com. I did talk to one person who was asked a bunch of questions and then rejected as a subject. Still trying to pin that one down. Anyone know an email for coldblueice? I have no evil plan, I am just searching for facts. Keep in mind, it appears a lot of the people snagged for TM research are Purusha, MD and or hard-core TM/TMSP TB's. They will likely perceive ANYONE outside the TMO questioning them as suspect or tainted. Some of the most interesting TM studies were done on people who were outside the mainstream TB practitioners (e.g. people in Seattle who went to a TM center there). Good luck!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Keep in mind, it appears a lot of the people snagged for TM research are Purusha, MD and or hard-core TM/TMSP TB's. They will likely perceive ANYONE outside the TMO questioning them as suspect or tainted. Some of the most interesting TM studies were done on people who were outside the mainstream TB practitioners (e.g. people in Seattle who went to a TM center there). Good luck! Yeah, I know. I know of two Parusha guys who have participated in several studies but they won't talk to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
snip I appreciate your taking the time to ponder this and to take responsibility for it, but from my perspective, I don't think you're owning all of your part in it yet. Several points: As far as I'm concerned, a person who aims to be fair gets only partial credit if they respond to unfairness only when it's directed at them. This sounds like way too much of a judgmental place for me to live in. This place is not my life. I'm not interested in taking most of the word wars that go in here that seriously. This is a big difference between us. You see that kind of correction as having a real value outside yourself. For me when I run the tisk tisk routine, it is for my own enjoyment and self-righteousness buzz. I'm real clear that I am not doing any real good. But I have noted that you consider the fact that I have different communication relationships here a lack of fairness. I don't see it that way. But you're not even consistent along that line. It's one thing for you to retaliate in kind in a discussion you're having with me. (I very rarely give you a basis for retaliating except when we're in the middle of a discussion and I think you aren't playing fair with me.) Consistency in how I interact here is probably not a goal for me. I enjoy reacting spontaneously as a sort of a Rorschach test for myself at any given time to a specific poster. Sometimes things bug me, sometimes I shrug them off. That seems normal. In this case, though--and in several others recently--you jumped on me because you thought I was being unfair *to others*. Yeah,me being a busybody. I'm reassessing this behavior. Further, I object to your suggestion of moral equivalency. What Vaj and, especially, Barry say in their attacks on me and others is far, far worse than anything I've ever said to them or to anybody else, including to you. The intention to hurt feelings is the same in my opinion. That is the quality that matters to me. You are more interested in the content. You have different styles of expressing your contempt for each other but the intention is the same. I understand that you believe that what they say is worse in some way that you can rate. From outside it isn't as obvious or maybe I haven't cared enough to judge it that way. There is a higher level of drama going on than I can relate to. I can get off on hating here and am not above it. But I pick those battles pretty carefully because I get an unpleasant blowback that I don't dig. I guess I don't understand how you can be so sanguine and jolly about your friendship wih Barry and Vaj when they're both so vicious and dishonest. First of all I try to avoid posts that have that vibe from anyone here when it isn't directed towards me. That is called minding my own business. I am trying to do that more and include you in that rather than mind their business more. I judge people by how they treat me. This framework is a very limited slice of their lives and I know that. Most people are posting with a persona that they would not have in their real lives. So the nature of online communication is to amplify negitive traits. I accept that with the medium. I am trying to get less judgmental, not more. I am really only interested in how a person interacts with me for good reason. I work at bringing my communication with each poster to a level I can enjoy. That is my personal agenda here. Taking your point of view on them serves no purpose for me. And frankly many times I disagree with how you are characterizing them in the worst possible light. I think you have a little self-fulfilling prophesy going on with them. Your contempt is so unrelenting it dehumanizes them, and vice versa. So neither side is encouraged to show up in a sensitive, appreciative way. I've been in that place so I know how it feels. How can you form a genuine friendship with people like that, even if they restrain themselves when they're interacting with you? To me, that seems grossly hypocritical. Again your judgmentalness is ratcheted up to high for me. This is not a friendship in the world, these are all online communications within a very limited scope. But a guy like Barry who has taken the time to listen to my music and communicate with me about it and has shared more about his life onffline in emails with me, has earned more closeness than someone who has not. So my perspective on him is not influenced by how you two relate. I know you feel victimized by him but I have trouble seeing it that way. You have created the relationship with him that you want,and so have I. They are not connected. Judging me as a hypocrite because I am focusing on a different and vastly more pleasant side of him seems like a very sour philosophy Judy. It sounds like a POV that would make you pissed off a lot at people. I want no part of that. snip Neither of them have ever taken a personal shot at me. We post to each other
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: For extra credit, if you're so inclined: Do you think Barry really believes this? If so, what might his basis be for believing it? If I assume Turq is just fucking with you on 100 posts to you, just to get a rise, I'll be right 99. So it's perfectly OK with you if Barry lies about me (and raunchy) because he's just fucking with us; and you don't seem to have any problem with Vaj making up a story about coldbluice out of whole cloth. But if I use the word tweak rather than shot to describe one of my posts, that's dishonest and warrants a long scolding from you. Curtis, I think you really believe you try to be fair, but you're too often blind to your own double standards.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: For extra credit, if you're so inclined: Do you think Barry really believes this? If so, what might his basis be for believing it? If I assume Turq is just fucking with you on 100 posts to you, just to get a rise, I'll be right 99. So it's perfectly OK with you if Barry lies about me (and raunchy) because he's just fucking with us; First of all you are assuming I read beyond the first shot fired between you guys, I rarely do. It is not my battle, I enjoy each of you for different reasons and don't enjoy the ill will between you. But my point was that you are taking the content seriously when in fact I believe it is mostly a formulaic attack designed to get you to fire back. You want me to take the content seriously and I can't do that. Plus you are assuming that each of us has a some kind of police role here. You guys seem to be doing a good enough job on your own of defending yourselves. I can't get into the oneupsmanship aspect of that particular fight, although I am not immune to its charms in some other exchanges.. and you don't seem to have any problem with Vaj making up a story about coldbluice out of whole cloth. I have a vague memory of him accusing that person of being someone else? I haven't followed that closely enough to comment. But if I use the word tweak rather than shot to describe one of my posts, that's dishonest and warrants a long scolding from you. That got my attention because I read almost all your posts not directed to Barry. I thought that you were being unfair by taunting John, and then when he responded in defense, you claimed he STARTED it. I made my point. It was not about you taking the shot is was how you tried to play it off as his fault that I didn't buy. It was my unsolicited busybody opinion and I gave you a chance to give your side, which you did. Curtis, I think you really believe you try to be fair, but you're too often blind to your own double standards. I find that easy to believe. This is a bit of a mosh pit and I'm not above anything that goes on here. But by your standard of fairness you could be accused of not speaking out about Nabby being aggressive personally against me and other posters. But we each pick our battles here don't we? There is a limit to how much busy body activities I can tolerate in myself. I'm not trying to post out at the beginning of the week so I'm not going to speak up in situations that I don't care about. So in that little skirmish, I had some history of feeling that Nabby is a name-caller and a mean-spirited personal attacker. So when I saw him pulling that on Paul I spoke up. Likewise you have a history with Paul and corrected me in my attempt to saint him. All valid choices IMO. I enjoyed your points and agreed with some of them that corrected my POV. That process is what makes this place fun for me. You are one of my most reliable responders to make me think about what I am writing in a different way. Can you really blame me that I spend most of my time in that kind of exchange here and pick my dogfights carefully?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: I find that easy to believe. This is a bit of a mosh pit and I'm not above anything that goes on here. But by your standard of fairness you could be accused of not speaking out about Nabby being aggressive Curtis; I'm sorry that I hurt your feeling by calling you a Hillbilly. But agressive ? Not so much...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I find that easy to believe. This is a bit of a mosh pit and I'm not above anything that goes on here. But by your standard of fairness you could be accused of not speaking out about Nabby being aggressive Curtis; I'm sorry that I hurt your feeling by calling you a Hillbilly. But agressive ? Not so much... And I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings when I called you a mean-spirited old coot whose only pleasure comes from feeling superior to other people through your spiritual delusions Nabby.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I find that easy to believe. This is a bit of a mosh pit and I'm not above anything that goes on here. But by your standard of fairness you could be accused of not speaking out about Nabby being aggressive Curtis; I'm sorry that I hurt your feeling by calling you a Hillbilly. But agressive ? Not so much... And I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings when I called you a mean-spirited old coot whose only pleasure comes from feeling superior to other people through your spiritual delusions Nabby. Don't worry about it curtis, I rather enjoyed it ! :-)
