Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
It's not judicious that Richard keeps calling me a liar, actually. That's just trolling, stuff Richard made up. It's interesting, though, that he hasn't said a word about your having told falsehoods about my September 2012 post that you refuse to admit to. Why do you think that is? As to whether Maharishi had affairs with his students, have you read Judith Bourque's book? Or the many accounts from his skinboys? Share pandered: Buck I agree that Richard's was judicious writing on a tough subject. Thanks to both you guys... On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:10 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: By now I think we know who the real ankle-biters on FFL are: one is the owner, one is the editor, and the other two have left the group for their own reasons. We will probably never know for sure what happened between the participants because MMY is gone, and he can't be cross-examined. I think it was very unfair that Judith waited until after MMY passed to make her claims - that way she could not be be contradicted. There are a few still left here who would take any opportunity to denigrate our teacher and try to confuse us as to the truth about our spiritual path and MMY's teachings. One is a long-time informant who persists in her insidious and false claims on this and other subjects. Go figure. On 12/10/2013 9:42 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks for the short take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a lot of people now look back on it this way too. I feel he did some pretty large great things with lasting affect and may have blown the potential of it all also with this too. Evidently he was also a high risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real hurt neganauts will proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people filter and deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you write here is fair reconciliation of a middle ground between complete deniers on the one hand and complete haters on the other. Thanks, I appreciate the writing attempt at some rationale in between. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure. So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that MMY engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations with his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback book? It just doesn't make any sense. It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson. Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC. According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the academy - she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact, Judith says she fell in love with the Maharishi! At the completion of the course Judith was appointed to be the Maharishi's private secretary, although Judith had exactly zero experience or training to do secretarial work having no training higher than that of a clerk, if that. Go figure. So, Bourque spent two years working for the MMY, first at the TTC in Rishikesh in 1968, and later in Switzerland, until TTC 1970. According to Bourque, she had sexual relations with the him, on numerous occasions during that time. Apparently she was infatuated with MMY. As part of her compensation MMY bought her a few saris and some jewelry to wear in order to cover up her nakedness. She was one of the Maharishi's 'inner circle', which included Jerry Jarvis and Ms. Jemima Pittman. This was after the Beatles and after the formation of SIMS. But, the real question is: Is there anything wrong with getting naked and having naked sex on a bear-skin rug? Why not just be open about it and tell everyone you want to screw the guru so you can get closer to him than anyone else - get some power so you can boss people around? Work cited: 'Robes of Silk Feet of Clay' By Judith Bourque p. 34 Ned to Casey: FairfieldLife/message/251652 Other titles of interest: 'God's Little Clown' By Conny Larsson On 12/9/2013 10:44 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: The next biggest favor I ever got
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. Richard trolled: Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are Rick, Judy, Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've read, there's no basis for their accusations. It's interesting to read Gail's book which is supported by that Gena character. In my opinion, it's mostly about eating sour grapes, except in Judy's case, she is probably just projecting her own sexual insecurities. But, so be it for me to be the only defender of MMY on this list - the rest of the ankle-biters around here can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
If you needed any proof that Judy is an ankle-biter, here you have it. Here you have Judy defending a paperback book and some disgruntled skin-boys, and she wants you to believe things based on hearsay. Nobody has any proof that MMY had sexual relations with anyone. And, that's the bottom line. It's all stuff made up by rumor-mongers of the lowest sort. Judy is no TMer, that's obvious. Let's put her files in the FFL dump folder and just ignore her. That's what I think, and I've read every book about MMY that has ever been published, Judy has not. On 12/11/2013 8:03 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: It's not judicious that Richard keeps calling me a liar, actually. That's just trolling, stuff Richard made up. It's interesting, though, that he hasn't said a word about your having told falsehoods about my September 2012 post that you refuse to admit to. Why do you think that is? As to whether Maharishi had affairs with his students, have you read Judith Bourque's book? Or the many accounts from his skinboys? Share pandered: Buck I agree that Richard's was judicious writing on a tough subject. Thanks to both you guys... On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:10 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: By now I think we know who the real ankle-biters on FFL are: one is the owner, one is the editor, and the other two have left the group for their own reasons. We will probably never know for sure what happened between the participants because MMY is gone, and he can't be cross-examined. I think it was very unfair that Judith waited until after MMY passed to make her claims - that way she could not be be contradicted. There are a few still left here who would take any opportunity to denigrate our teacher and try to confuse us as to the truth about our spiritual path and MMY's teachings. One is a long-time informant who persists in her insidious and false claims on this and other subjects. Go figure. On 12/10/2013 9:42 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: *RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks for the short take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a lot of people now look back on it this way too. I feel he did some pretty large great things with lasting affect and may have blown the potential of it all also with this too. Evidently he was also a high risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real hurt neganauts will proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people filter and deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you write here is fair reconciliation of a middle ground between complete deniers on the one hand and complete haters on the other. Thanks, I appreciate the writing attempt at some rationale in between. * *-Buck * ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure. So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that MMY engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations with his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback book? It just doesn't make any sense. It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson. Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC. According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the academy - she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact, Judith says she fell in love with the Maharishi! At the completion of the course Judith was appointed to be the Maharishi's private secretary, although Judith had exactly zero experience or training to do secretarial work having no training higher than that of a clerk, if that. Go figure. So, Bourque spent two years working for the MMY, first at the TTC in Rishikesh in 1968, and later in Switzerland, until TTC 1970. According to Bourque, she had sexual relations with the him, on numerous occasions during that time. Apparently she was infatuated with MMY. As part of her compensation MMY bought her a few saris and some jewelry to wear in order to cover up her nakedness. She was one of the Maharishi's 'inner circle', which included Jerry Jarvis and Ms. Jemima Pittman. This was after the Beatles and after the formation of SIMS. But, the real question is: Is
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure. On 12/11/2013 8:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.* * * *Richard trolled:* Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are Rick, Judy, Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've read, there's no basis for their accusations. It's interesting to read Gail's book which is supported by that Gena character. In my opinion, it's mostly about eating sour grapes, except in Judy's case, she is probably just projecting her own sexual insecurities. But, so be it for me to be the only defender of MMY on this list - the rest of the ankle-biters around here can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure. Who put the bug up your ass lately Ricky? Buck, Ricky's being mean and annoying again... On 12/11/2013 8:21 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. Richard trolled: Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are Rick, Judy, Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've read, there's no basis for their accusations. It's interesting to read Gail's book which is supported by that Gena character. In my opinion, it's mostly about eating sour grapes, except in Judy's case, she is probably just projecting her own sexual insecurities. But, so be it for me to be the only defender of MMY on this list - the rest of the ankle-biters around here can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. (Except that you ought to be able to tell just from reading what I've said and what he says.) Richard trolled: If you needed any proof that Judy is an ankle-biter, here you have it. Here you have Judy defending a paperback book and some disgruntled skin-boys, and she wants you to believe things based on hearsay. Nobody has any proof that MMY had sexual relations with anyone. And, that's the bottom line. It's all stuff made up by rumor-mongers of the lowest sort. Judy is no TMer, that's obvious. Let's put her files in the FFL dump folder and just ignore her. That's what I think, and I've read every book about MMY that has ever been published, Judy has not. On 12/11/2013 8:03 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: It's not judicious that Richard keeps calling me a liar, actually. That's just trolling, stuff Richard made up. It's interesting, though, that he hasn't said a word about your having told falsehoods about my September 2012 post that you refuse to admit to. Why do you think that is? As to whether Maharishi had affairs with his students, have you read Judith Bourque's book? Or the many accounts from his skinboys? Share pandered: Buck I agree that Richard's was judicious writing on a tough subject. Thanks to both you guys... On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:10 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: By now I think we know who the real ankle-biters on FFL are: one is the owner, one is the editor, and the other two have left the group for their own reasons. We will probably never know for sure what happened between the participants because MMY is gone, and he can't be cross-examined. I think it was very unfair that Judith waited until after MMY passed to make her claims - that way she could not be be contradicted. There are a few still left here who would take any opportunity to denigrate our teacher and try to confuse us as to the truth about our spiritual path and MMY's teachings. One is a long-time informant who persists in her insidious and false claims on this and other subjects. Go figure. On 12/10/2013 9:42 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks for the short take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a lot of people now look back on it this way too. I feel he did some pretty large great things with lasting affect and may have blown the potential of it all also with this too. Evidently he was also a high risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real hurt neganauts will proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people filter and deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you write here is fair reconciliation of a middle ground between complete deniers on the one hand and complete haters on the other. Thanks, I appreciate the writing attempt at some rationale in between. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure. So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that MMY engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations with his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback book? It just doesn't make any sense. It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson. Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC. According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the academy - she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact, Judith says she fell in love with the Maharishi! At the completion of the course Judith was appointed to be the Maharishi's private secretary, although Judith had exactly zero experience or training to do secretarial work having no training higher than that of a clerk, if that. Go figure. So, Bourque spent two years working for the MMY, first at the TTC in Rishikesh in 1968, and later in Switzerland, until TTC 1970. According to Bourque, she had sexual
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. Richard trolled: Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure. On 12/11/2013 8:21 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. Richard trolled: Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are Rick, Judy, Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've read, there's no basis for their accusations. It's interesting to read Gail's book which is supported by that Gena character. In my opinion, it's mostly about eating sour grapes, except in Judy's case, she is probably just projecting her own sexual insecurities. But, so be it for me to be the only defender of MMY on this list - the rest of the ankle-biters around here can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
Rick, the owner of this site, would probably be the first, if he wasn't so busy with other things, to complain about Gail's book. There may be a place to discuss the private sex life of others, like in a bowling alley or at a bar frequented by cross-dressing, gay and lesbian neo-nazi skinheads, but nothing is going to be proved here based on a paperback book you can buy at a news stand in Jersey. On 12/11/2013 8:45 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure. Who put the bug up your ass lately Ricky? Buck, Ricky's being mean and annoying again... On 12/11/2013 8:21 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: *This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.* * * *Richard trolled:* Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are Rick, Judy, Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've read, there's no basis for their accusations. It's interesting to read Gail's book which is supported by that Gena character. In my opinion, it's mostly about eating sour grapes, except in Judy's case, she is probably just projecting her own sexual insecurities. But, so be it for me to be the only defender of MMY on this list - the rest of the ankle-biters around here can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
If anyone wants to discuss my private sex life they can be addressing me directly. Judy should keep her pie hole shut about what other people do, or don't do, in their own bedroom, even if they don't have a bedroom, or a bathroom, or a tiger skin, or a picture of SBS hanging on the wall. If Judy wants to reveal her own sexual proclivities, if there are any, she can say whatever she wants to say about them. But, probably NOBODY cares, and that's the bottom line (no pun intended). On 12/11/2013 8:49 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. (Except that you ought to be able to tell just from reading what I've said and what he says.) Richard trolled: If you needed any proof that Judy is an ankle-biter, here you have it. Here you have Judy defending a paperback book and some disgruntled skin-boys, and she wants you to believe things based on hearsay. Nobody has any proof that MMY had sexual relations with anyone. And, that's the bottom line. It's all stuff made up by rumor-mongers of the lowest sort. Judy is no TMer, that's obvious. Let's put her files in the FFL dump folder and just ignore her. That's what I think, and I've read every book about MMY that has ever been published, Judy has not. On 12/11/2013 8:03 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: It's not judicious that Richard keeps calling me a liar, actually. That's just trolling, stuff Richard made up. It's interesting, though, that he hasn't said a word about your having told falsehoods about my September 2012 post that you refuse to admit to. Why do you think that is? As to whether Maharishi had affairs with his students, have you read Judith Bourque's book? Or the many accounts from his skinboys? Share pandered: Buck I agree that Richard's was judicious writing on a tough subject. Thanks to both you guys... On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:10 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: By now I think we know who the real ankle-biters on FFL are: one is the owner, one is the editor, and the other two have left the group for their own reasons. We will probably never know for sure what happened between the participants because MMY is gone, and he can't be cross-examined. I think it was very unfair that Judith waited until after MMY passed to make her claims - that way she could not be be contradicted. There are a few still left here who would take any opportunity to denigrate our teacher and try to confuse us as to the truth about our spiritual path and MMY's teachings. One is a long-time informant who persists in her insidious and false claims on this and other subjects. Go figure. On 12/10/2013 9:42 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: *RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks for the short take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a lot of people now look back on it this way too. I feel he did some pretty large great things with lasting affect and may have blown the potential of it all also with this too. Evidently he was also a high risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real hurt neganauts will proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people filter and deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you write here is fair reconciliation of a middle ground between complete deniers on the one hand and complete haters on the other. Thanks, I appreciate the writing attempt at some rationale in between. * *-Buck * ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure. So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that MMY engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations with his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback book? It just doesn't make any sense. It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson. Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC. According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the academy - she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact,
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
Actually, as Richard well knows, Rick has always been one of the strongest supporters of Judith Bourque's book. And as Richard also well knows, you can't buy it at a newsstand in Jersey. Richard trolled: Rick, the owner of this site, would probably be the first, if he wasn't so busy with other things, to complain about Gail's book. There may be a place to discuss the private sex life of others, like in a bowling alley or at a bar frequented by cross-dressing, gay and lesbian neo-nazi skinheads, but nothing is going to be proved here based on a paperback book you can buy at a news stand in Jersey. On 12/11/2013 8:45 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure. Who put the bug up your ass lately Ricky? Buck, Ricky's being mean and annoying again...
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
Ooops, sorry, I misread. It's Gail Treadwell's book about Amma he's talking about here, not Judith Bourque's book about her and Maharishi. My bad. I wrote: Actually, as Richard well knows, Rick has always been one of the strongest supporters of Judith Bourque's book. And as Richard also well knows, you can't buy it at a newsstand in Jersey. Richard trolled: Rick, the owner of this site, would probably be the first, if he wasn't so busy with other things, to complain about Gail's book. There may be a place to discuss the private sex life of others, like in a bowling alley or at a bar frequented by cross-dressing, gay and lesbian neo-nazi skinheads, but nothing is going to be proved here based on a paperback book you can buy at a news stand in Jersey.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
If you've read Gail's book, what's on page 89? On 12/11/2013 9:03 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. Richard trolled: Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure. On 12/11/2013 8:21 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: *This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.* * * *Richard trolled:* Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are Rick, Judy, Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've read, there's no basis for their accusations. It's interesting to read Gail's book which is supported by that Gena character. In my opinion, it's mostly about eating sour grapes, except in Judy's case, she is probably just projecting her own sexual insecurities. But, so be it for me to be the only defender of MMY on this list - the rest of the ankle-biters around here can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
As you well know, Rick does not approve of Gail's book slamming Amma. And, as you well know, you have not read Gail's book; or Nancy's book; or Paul's book; or Helen's book; or Mia's book. Why you read Judith's book is known only to you - prurient interest I am guessing. And, stop the fibbing - you have not been to every news stand in Jersey. Go figure. On 12/11/2013 9:31 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Actually, as Richard well knows, Rick has always been one of the strongest supporters of Judith Bourque's book. And as Richard also well knows, you can't buy it at a newsstand in Jersey.* * Richard trolled: * Rick, the owner of this site, would probably be the first, if he wasn't so busy with other things, to complain about Gail's book. There may be a place to discuss the private sex life of others, like in a bowling alley or at a bar frequented by cross-dressing, gay and lesbian neo-nazi skinheads, but nothing is going to be proved here based on a paperback book you can buy at a news stand in Jersey. On 12/11/2013 8:45 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Get a load of this shyster - she hasn't even read Gail's book. Go figure. Who put the bug up your ass lately Ricky? Buck, Ricky's being mean and annoying again...
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure. So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that MMY engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations with his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback book? It just doesn't make any sense. It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson. Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC. According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the academy - she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact, Judith says she fell in love with the Maharishi! At the completion of the course Judith was appointed to be the Maharishi's private secretary, although Judith had exactly zero experience or training to do secretarial work having no training higher than that of a clerk, if that. Go figure. So, Bourque spent two years working for the MMY, first at the TTC in Rishikesh in 1968, and later in Switzerland, until TTC 1970. According to Bourque, she had sexual relations with the him, on numerous occasions during that time. Apparently she was infatuated with MMY. As part of her compensation MMY bought her a few saris and some jewelry to wear in order to cover up her nakedness. She was one of the Maharishi's 'inner circle', which included Jerry Jarvis and Ms. Jemima Pittman. This was after the Beatles and after the formation of SIMS. But, the real question is: Is there anything wrong with getting naked and having naked sex on a bear-skin rug? Why not just be open about it and tell everyone you want to screw the guru so you can get closer to him than anyone else - get some power so you can boss people around? Work cited: 'Robes of Silk Feet of Clay' By Judith Bourque p. 34 Ned to Casey: FairfieldLife/message/251652 Other titles of interest: 'God's Little Clown' By Conny Larsson On 12/9/2013 10:44 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: The next biggest favor I ever got was when Rick shared here on FFL and with me in a couple messages he reasons for believing Marshy was a sexual active person
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks for the short take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a lot of people now look back on it this way too. I feel he did some pretty large great things with lasting affect and may have blown the potential of it all also with this too. Evidently he was also a high risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real hurt neganauts will proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people filter and deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you write here is fair reconciliation of a middle ground between complete deniers on the one hand and complete haters on the other. Thanks, I appreciate the writing attempt at some rationale in between. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure. So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that MMY engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations with his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback book? It just doesn't make any sense. It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson. Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC. According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the academy - she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact, Judith says she fell in love with the Maharishi! At the completion of the course Judith was appointed to be the Maharishi's private secretary, although Judith had exactly zero experience or training to do secretarial work having no training higher than that of a clerk, if that. Go figure. So, Bourque spent two years working for the MMY, first at the TTC in Rishikesh in 1968, and later in Switzerland, until TTC 1970. According to Bourque, she had sexual relations with the him, on numerous occasions during that time. Apparently she was infatuated with MMY. As part of her compensation MMY bought her a few saris and some jewelry to wear in order to cover up her nakedness. She was one of the Maharishi's 'inner circle', which included Jerry Jarvis and Ms. Jemima Pittman. This was after the Beatles and after the formation of SIMS. But, the real question is: Is there anything wrong with getting naked and having naked sex on a bear-skin rug? Why not just be open about it and tell everyone you want to screw the guru so you can get closer to him than anyone else - get some power so you can boss people around? Work cited: 'Robes of Silk Feet of Clay' By Judith Bourque p. 34 Ned to Casey: FairfieldLife/message/251652 Other titles of interest: 'God's Little Clown' By Conny Larsson On 12/9/2013 10:44 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: The next biggest favor I ever got was when Rick shared here on FFL and with me in a couple messages he reasons for believing Marshy was a sexual active person
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
By now I think we know who the real ankle-biters on FFL are: one is the owner, one is the editor, and the other two have left the group for their own reasons. We will probably never know for sure what happened between the participants because MMY is gone, and he can't be cross-examined. I think it was very unfair that Judith waited until after MMY passed to make her claims - that way she could not be be contradicted. There are a few still left here who would take any opportunity to denigrate our teacher and try to confuse us as to the truth about our spiritual path and MMY's teachings. One is a long-time informant who persists in her insidious and false claims on this and other subjects. Go figure. On 12/10/2013 9:42 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: *RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks for the short take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a lot of people now look back on it this way too. I feel he did some pretty large great things with lasting affect and may have blown the potential of it all also with this too. Evidently he was also a high risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real hurt neganauts will proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people filter and deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you write here is fair reconciliation of a middle ground between complete deniers on the one hand and complete haters on the other. Thanks, I appreciate the writing attempt at some rationale in between. * *-Buck * ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure. So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that MMY engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations with his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback book? It just doesn't make any sense. It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson. Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC. According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the academy - she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact, Judith says she fell in love with the Maharishi! At the completion of the course Judith was appointed to be the Maharishi's private secretary, although Judith had exactly zero experience or training to do secretarial work having no training higher than that of a clerk, if that. Go figure. So, Bourque spent two years working for the MMY, first at the TTC in Rishikesh in 1968, and later in Switzerland, until TTC 1970. According to Bourque, she had sexual relations with the him, on numerous occasions during that time. Apparently she was infatuated with MMY. As part of her compensation MMY bought her a few saris and some jewelry to wear in order to cover up her nakedness. She was one of the Maharishi's 'inner circle', which included Jerry Jarvis and Ms. Jemima Pittman. This was after the Beatles and after the formation of SIMS. But, the real question is: Is there anything wrong with getting naked and having naked sex on a bear-skin rug? Why not just be open about it and tell everyone you want to screw the guru so you can get closer to him than anyone else - get some power so you can boss people around? Work cited: 'Robes of Silk Feet of Clay' By Judith Bourque p. 34 Ned to Casey: FairfieldLife/message/251652 Other titles of interest: 'God's Little Clown' By Conny Larsson On 12/9/2013 10:44 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: The next biggest favor I ever got was when Rick shared here on FFL and with me in a couple messages he reasons for believing Marshy was a sexual active person
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
Generalizing, in paraphrase: .. pretended to uphold the party and leader but was engrossed in such factional acts as dreaming different dreams and involving himself in double-dealing behind the scenes. It accused him of offenses such as financial mismanagement and selling off resources for his personal gain, but it also denounced him for leading what it called a dissolute and depraved life. Buck wrote: Dealing with “Neganauts” : Rare moments like these are perhaps the closest we'll come, at least for now, to observing directly the workings of the state.. News of his dismissal filtered out last week along with reports that two of his close aides had been executed for corruption. It is unclear when these latest images date from.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
Ideologically sick and extremely idle and easy-going, he used drugs and squandered currency at casinos while he was receiving medical treatment in a foreign country under the care of the party, the report said. It added that he had improper relations with several women and was wined and dined at back parlours of deluxe restaurants. Dealing with “Neganauts” : Rare moments like these are perhaps the closest we'll come, at least for now, to observing directly the workings of the state.. News of his dismissal filtered out last week along with reports that two of his close aides had been executed for corruption. It is unclear when these latest images date from.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
Abstracting paraphrase reports, Almost overnight, ..has morphed from mentor to anti-revolutionary criminal outcast, .this could be seen as the latest in a series of carefully calibrated moves to demonstrate control, yet another sign of authority, assertion of dependence. ..is reported to have been stripped of all his positions and expelled from the party. Ideologically sick and extremely idle and easy-going, he used drugs and squandered currency at casinos while he was receiving medical treatment in a foreign country under the care of the party, the report said. It added that he had improper relations with several women and was wined and dined at back parlours of deluxe restaurants. Dealing with “Neganauts” : Rare moments like these are perhaps the closest we'll come, at least for now, to observing directly the workings of the state.. News of his dismissal filtered out last week along with reports that two of his close aides had been executed for corruption. It is unclear when these latest images date from.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
dramatic images show being escorted from a party session by uniformed guards. Analysts say such a public dismissal is unique and could signal a wider purge. Abstracting paraphrase reports, Almost overnight, ..has morphed from mentor to anti-revolutionary criminal outcast, .this could be seen as the latest in a series of carefully calibrated moves to demonstrate control, yet another sign of authority, assertion of dependence. ..is reported to have been stripped of all his positions and expelled from the party. Ideologically sick and extremely idle and easy-going, he used drugs and squandered currency at casinos while he was receiving medical treatment in a foreign country under the care of the party, the report said. It added that he had improper relations with several women and was wined and dined at back parlours of deluxe restaurants. Dealing with “Neganauts” : Rare moments like these are perhaps the closest we'll come, at least for now, to observing directly the workings of the state.. News of his dismissal filtered out last week along with reports that two of his close aides had been executed for corruption. It is unclear when these latest images date from.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
People out in the world ask me on occasion what is going on in meditating FF? The example of state run communism I feel gives a good vision of how it works. A narrow administrative top and a wide organizational chart that flows out to the elements of TM. TM is now run a lot by committee work of people within elements of the flow chart. The by-laws of how it works are not clear from the outside, sort of like state-run communalism in red china or north korea. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: dramatic images show being escorted from a party session by uniformed guards. Analysts say such a public dismissal is unique and could signal a wider purge. Abstracting paraphrase reports, Almost overnight, ..has morphed from mentor to anti-revolutionary criminal outcast, .this could be seen as the latest in a series of carefully calibrated moves to demonstrate control, yet another sign of authority, assertion of dependence. ..is reported to have been stripped of all his positions and expelled from the party. Ideologically sick and extremely idle and easy-going, he used drugs and squandered currency at casinos while he was receiving medical treatment in a foreign country under the care of the party, the report said. It added that he had improper relations with several women and was wined and dined at back parlours of deluxe restaurants. Dealing with “Neganauts” : Rare moments like these are perhaps the closest we'll come, at least for now, to observing directly the workings of the state.. News of his dismissal filtered out last week along with reports that two of his close aides had been executed for corruption. It is unclear when these latest images date from. paraphrase notes taken from BBC report on N. Korea http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25295312 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25295312
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
Ah, the point of these posts. Why not just do it in one post, so people know what you are thinking rather than supposing you are just running your usual spammy unified field posts? Might be nice to give credit to the sources. Our Michael Jackson, I think, still seems to feel the sting of having been purged. His situation was less amenable as he was actively trying to stay out of the dome for health reasons. Although things may have changed from years back, I have heard of ways people managed to stay out of the dome using subterfuge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: People out in the world ask me on occasion what is going on in meditating FF? The example of state run communism I feel gives a good vision of how it works. A narrow administrative top and a wide organizational chart that flows out to the elements of TM. TM is now run a lot by committee work of people within elements of the flow chart. The by-laws of how it works are not clear from the outside, sort of like state-run communalism in red china or north korea. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: dramatic images show being escorted from a party session by uniformed guards. Analysts say such a public dismissal is unique and could signal a wider purge. Abstracting paraphrase reports, Almost overnight, ..has morphed from mentor to anti-revolutionary criminal outcast, .this could be seen as the latest in a series of carefully calibrated moves to demonstrate control, yet another sign of authority, assertion of dependence. ..is reported to have been stripped of all his positions and expelled from the party. Ideologically sick and extremely idle and easy-going, he used drugs and squandered currency at casinos while he was receiving medical treatment in a foreign country under the care of the party, the report said. It added that he had improper relations with several women and was wined and dined at back parlours of deluxe restaurants. Dealing with “Neganauts” : Rare moments like these are perhaps the closest we'll come, at least for now, to observing directly the workings of the state.. News of his dismissal filtered out last week along with reports that two of his close aides had been executed for corruption. It is unclear when these latest images date from. paraphrase notes taken from BBC report on N. Korea http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25295312 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25295312
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
yep locally different people have been escorted from the movement too in various ways for various reasons. In Vlodrop around Maharishi it was said any neganaut hinting or talking the wrong way would find their bags packed for them at the door. I met an old movement meditator the other day who was escorted to the door for embarrassing the administration a long time ago. Any group can expect order and discipline from its members if they want to belong. No one said due process of law is fair in every culture. anartaxius@... wrote: Our Michael Jackson, I think, still seems to feel the sting of having been purged. His situation was less amenable as he was actively trying to stay out of the dome for health reasons. Although things may have changed from years back, I have heard of ways people managed to stay out of the dome using subterfuge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: People out in the world ask me on occasion what is going on in meditating FF? The example of state run communism I feel gives a good vision of how it works. A narrow administrative top and a wide organizational chart that flows out to the elements of TM. TM is now run a lot by committee work of people within elements of the flow chart. The by-laws of how it works are not clear from the outside, sort of like state-run communalism in red china or north korea. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: dramatic images show being escorted from a party session by uniformed guards. Analysts say such a public dismissal is unique and could signal a wider purge. Abstracting paraphrase reports, Almost overnight, ..has morphed from mentor to anti-revolutionary criminal outcast, .this could be seen as the latest in a series of carefully calibrated moves to demonstrate control, yet another sign of authority, assertion of dependence. ..is reported to have been stripped of all his positions and expelled from the party. Ideologically sick and extremely idle and easy-going, he used drugs and squandered currency at casinos while he was receiving medical treatment in a foreign country under the care of the party, the report said. It added that he had improper relations with several women and was wined and dined at back parlours of deluxe restaurants. Dealing with “Neganauts” : Rare moments like these are perhaps the closest we'll come, at least for now, to observing directly the workings of the state.. News of his dismissal filtered out last week along with reports that two of his close aides had been executed for corruption. It is unclear when these latest images date from. paraphrase notes taken from BBC report on N. Korea http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25295312 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25295312
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
Seems in similarity (simile) as with the North Koreans and the Red Chinese most any movements' pr production of media presentation like those big communist meetings being broadcast is as much for internal cultural re-enforcement even as it could seem apparent for general public release, like staged press-conferences or something published really glossy for release. ..dramatic images show being escorted from a party session by uniformed guards. yep locally different people have been escorted from the movement too in various ways for various reasons. In Vlodrop around Maharishi it was said any neganaut hinting or talking the wrong way would find their bags packed for them at the door. I met an old movement meditator the other day who was escorted to the door for embarrassing the administration a long time ago. Any group can expect order and discipline from its members if they want to belong. No one said due process of law is fair in every culture. anartaxius@... wrote: Our Michael Jackson, I think, still seems to feel the sting of having been purged. His situation was less amenable as he was actively trying to stay out of the dome for health reasons. Although things may have changed from years back, I have heard of ways people managed to stay out of the dome using subterfuge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: People out in the world ask me on occasion what is going on in meditating FF? The example of state run communism I feel gives a good vision of how it works. A narrow administrative top and a wide organizational chart that flows out to the elements of TM. TM is now run a lot by committee work of people within elements of the flow chart. The by-laws of how it works are not clear from the outside, sort of like state-run communalism in red china or north korea. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: dramatic images show being escorted from a party session by uniformed guards. Analysts say such a public dismissal is unique and could signal a wider purge. Abstracting paraphrase reports, Almost overnight, ..has morphed from mentor to anti-revolutionary criminal outcast, .this could be seen as the latest in a series of carefully calibrated moves to demonstrate control, yet another sign of authority, assertion of dependence. ..is reported to have been stripped of all his positions and expelled from the party. Ideologically sick and extremely idle and easy-going, he used drugs and squandered currency at casinos while he was receiving medical treatment in a foreign country under the care of the party, the report said. It added that he had improper relations with several women and was wined and dined at back parlours of deluxe restaurants. Dealing with “Neganauts” : Rare moments like these are perhaps the closest we'll come, at least for now, to observing directly the workings of the state.. News of his dismissal filtered out last week along with reports that two of his close aides had been executed for corruption. It is unclear when these latest images date from. paraphrase notes taken from BBC report on N. Korea http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25295312 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25295312
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
Defining the 'Neganauts', I was asked on the street recently to define a 'neganaut'. The N Korean writer quoted in that BBC article says it pretty good for our purposes here: someone, a NEGANAUT is “engrossed in such [anti-TM] factional acts as dreaming different dreams and involving himself in double-dealing behind the scenes.” You bet, damned ignorant 'bush-whackers' from another era. -Buck yep locally different people have been escorted from the movement too in various ways for various reasons. In Vlodrop around Maharishi it was said any neganaut hinting or talking the wrong way would find their bags packed for them at the door. I met an old movement meditator the other day who was escorted to the door for embarrassing the administration a long time ago. Any group can expect order and discipline from its members if they want to belong. No one said due process of law is fair in every culture. anartaxius@... wrote: Our Michael Jackson, I think, still seems to feel the sting of having been purged. His situation was less amenable as he was actively trying to stay out of the dome for health reasons. Although things may have changed from years back, I have heard of ways people managed to stay out of the dome using subterfuge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: People out in the world ask me on occasion what is going on in meditating FF? The example of state run communism I feel gives a good vision of how it works. A narrow administrative top and a wide organizational chart that flows out to the elements of TM. TM is now run a lot by committee work of people within elements of the flow chart. The by-laws of how it works are not clear from the outside, sort of like state-run communalism in red china or north korea. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: dramatic images show being escorted from a party session by uniformed guards. Analysts say such a public dismissal is unique and could signal a wider purge. Abstracting paraphrase reports, Almost overnight, ..has morphed from mentor to anti-revolutionary criminal outcast, .this could be seen as the latest in a series of carefully calibrated moves to demonstrate control, yet another sign of authority, assertion of dependence. ..is reported to have been stripped of all his positions and expelled from the party. Ideologically sick and extremely idle and easy-going, he used drugs and squandered currency at casinos while he was receiving medical treatment in a foreign country under the care of the party, the report said. It added that he had improper relations with several women and was wined and dined at back parlours of deluxe restaurants. Dealing with “Neganauts” : Rare moments like these are perhaps the closest we'll come, at least for now, to observing directly the workings of the state.. News of his dismissal filtered out last week along with reports that two of his close aides had been executed for corruption. It is unclear when these latest images date from. paraphrase notes taken from BBC report on N. Korea http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25295312 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25295312
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
Be sure you check under your bed for communists, Buck. They've got to be hiding there. On 12/09/2013 06:57 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: *Seems in similarity (simile) as with the North Koreans and the Red Chinese most any movements' pr production of media presentation like those big communist meetings being broadcast is as much for internal cultural re-enforcement even as it could seem apparent for general public release, like staged press-conferences or something published really glossy for release.* * * ..dramatic images show being escorted from a party session by uniformed guards. yep locally different people have been escorted from the movement too in various ways for various reasons. In Vlodrop around Maharishi it was said any neganaut hinting or talking the wrong way would find their bags packed for them at the door. I met an old movement meditator the other day who was escorted to the door for embarrassing the administration a long time ago. Any group can expect order and discipline from its members if they want to belong. No one said due process of law is fair in every culture. anartaxius@... wrote: Our Michael Jackson, I think, still seems to feel the sting of having been purged. His situation was less amenable as he was actively trying to stay out of the dome for health reasons. Although things may have changed from years back, I have heard of ways people managed to stay out of the dome using subterfuge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: People out in the world ask me on occasion what is going on in meditating FF? The example of state run communism I feel gives a good vision of how it works. A narrow administrative top and a wide organizational chart that flows out to the elements of TM. TM is now run a lot by committee work of people within elements of the flow chart. The by-laws of how it works are not clear from the outside, sort of like state-run communalism in red china or north korea. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: dramatic images show being escorted from a party session by uniformed guards.** Analysts say such a public dismissal is unique and could signal a wider purge.** Abstracting paraphrase reports, Almost overnight, ..has morphed from mentor to anti-revolutionary criminal outcast, .this could be seen as the latest in a series of carefully calibrated moves to demonstrate control, yet another sign of authority, assertion of dependence. ..is reported to have been stripped of all his positions and expelled from the party. Ideologically sick and extremely idle and easy-going, he used drugs and squandered currency at casinos while he was receiving medical treatment in a foreign country under the care of the party, the report said. It added that he had improper relations with several women and was wined and dined at back parlours of deluxe restaurants. *Dealing with “Neganauts” :* Rare moments like these are perhaps the closest we'll come, at least for now, to observing directly the workings of the state.. News of his dismissal filtered out last week along with reports that two of his close aides had been executed for corruption. It is unclear when these latest images date from. paraphrase notes taken from BBC report on N. Korea http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25295312
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
I was glad to remain at MIU and had asked Bill Sands to let me join the meditators so I could do my part to maintain coherence in collective awareness, but the hide-bound ossified idiot would have no part of it, because of course the meditators are just potential sidhas in the making, if they know what's good for them. As I see it now, Bill did me the greatest favor of my life, to get me out of guru worship land. The next biggest favor I ever got was when Rick shared here on FFL and with me in a couple messages he reasons for believing Marshy was a sexual active person, which helped convince me, and that helped me to see the wide range and enormity of Marshy's megalomania and his lyin' cheatin' fraudulent ways - see how one never sees the good in something till after it has come to you? On Tue, 12/10/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2013, 2:25 AM yep locally different people have been escorted from the movement too in various ways for various reasons. In Vlodrop around Maharishi it was said any neganaut hinting or talking the wrong way would find their bags packed for them at the door. I met an old movement meditator the other day who was escorted to the door for embarrassing the administration a long time ago. Any group can expect order and discipline from its members if they want to belong. No one said due process of law is fair in every culture. anartaxius@... wrote: Our Michael Jackson, I think, still seems to feel the sting of having been purged. His situation was less amenable as he was actively trying to stay out of the dome for health reasons. Although things may have changed from years back, I have heard of ways people managed to stay out of the dome using subterfuge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: People out in the world ask me on occasion what is going on in meditating FF? The example of state run communism I feel gives a good vision of how it works. A narrow administrative top and a wide organizational chart that flows out to the elements of TM. TM is now run a lot by committee work of people within elements of the flow chart. The by-laws of how it works are not clear from the outside, sort of like state-run communalism in red china or north korea.-Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: dramatic images show being escorted from a party session by uniformed guards. Analysts say such a public dismissal is unique and could signal a wider purge. Abstracting paraphrase reports, Almost overnight, ..has morphed from mentor to anti-revolutionary criminal outcast, .this could be seen as the latest in a series of carefully calibrated moves to demonstrate control, yet another sign of authority, assertion of dependence. ..is reported to have been stripped of all his positions and expelled from the party. Ideologically sick and extremely idle and easy-going, he used drugs and squandered currency at casinos while he was receiving medical treatment in a foreign country under the care of the party, the report said. It added that he had improper relations with several women and was wined and dined at back parlours of deluxe restaurants. Dealing with “Neganauts” : Rare moments like these are perhaps the closest we'll come, at least for now, to observing directly the workings of the state.. News of his dismissal filtered out last week along with reports that two of his close aides had been executed for corruption. It is unclear when these latest images date from. paraphrase notes taken from BBC report on N. Koreahttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25295312
[FairfieldLife] RE: Fealty, Neganauts, and #39;Dissolute#39; life
Re I have heard of ways people managed to stay out of the Dome using subterfuge.: What's the story here? In Fairfield it's not compulsory to go to the Dome is it? Aren't people keen to get in turned away? The way self-important bouncers decide who is hip enough to get into a popular night club.
