[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-08 Thread shukra69
SriSri gives chanting Om to one and all. Incompatible.
In his meditation practice you DON'T always come back to the mantra if
you are aware you aren't doing it.

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 --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
  program. it is
  incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
 
 Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of
 SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program
 and it is completely compatable with MMY's program.
 You don't know what you're talking about. 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-08 Thread Peter
What do you mean by incompatible? What do you mean by
SSRS gives chanting Om to one and all. He hasn't
given it to me. What is your knowledge of SSRS based
on, direct experience or hearsay? 

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 SriSri gives chanting Om to one and all.
 Incompatible.
 In his meditation practice you DON'T always come
 back to the mantra if
 you are aware you aren't doing it.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
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  --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
   program. it is
   incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
  
  Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole
 of
  SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis
 program
  and it is completely compatable with MMY's
 program.
  You don't know what you're talking about. 
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
 
  
  On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:
  
   --- shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote:
  
  
   A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
   program. it is
   incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
  
   Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of
   SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program
   and it is completely compatable with MMY's program.
   You don't know what you're talking about.
  
 I wasn't speaking on whether the techniques which Ravi teaches are 
 compatible or not;
 I assume they would be, since I was inferring that they are what 
 Maharishi teaches;
 I was just wondering how much credit he gives to Maharishi, for 
this 
 teaching;
 In the same way, I was wondering, how much credit Deepak Chopra;
 Gives to Maharishi, for all the knowledge he plagerized from him.
 That's all.
 I just wanted to bitch.
 Nothing personal;
 I just think it's strange that these people teach what Maharishi 
 teaches, and just never give him any credit.
 

Deepak Chopra is a persona-non-grata in the TMO. As a TM-Teacher we 
were not allowed to even mention his name - and use any tape or book 
that could refer to him. I think it is the same with Chopra. He is 
not allowed to refer to MMY - because the TMO is afraid to be mixed 
with Chopra. Chopra use a lot of techniques that obviously not comes 
from MMY - just read his books - and you will see that.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Peter


--- rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:
   
What is the official position of the art of
 living
   organization
regarding whether Maharishi approves of what
 SSRS
   is doing?  I tried
to ask him directly once and he skirted the
   question.
I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY
 said
   of SSRS candy
coated poison
   
   
   I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where
 he
   says (gross  
   paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM
   should go ahead and  
   do it as long they do it correctly, is actually
   meant to refer to  
   SSRS, not independent non-recertified TM
 teachers
   (as is often  
   presupposed).
   
   Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock
 of
   pranayama and  
   meditation instruction in India where he
 initiated
   more people into  
   inner space than any known human in historical
   times: millions of  
   humans. All at once.
   
   I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event.
  
  SSRS loves MMY dearly and MMY loves SSRS dearly.
 As
  SSRS said once about gurus, those who know, know
 and
  those who don't, don't. 
  
  
  IF SSRS loves MMY so much, how come its never
 mentioned in any of 
 their publicity materials that he was MMY's
 disciple?

He is  MMY's disciple, not was. As to why he doesn't
say anything, unless he is directly asked by someone,
you'll have to ask him and MMY about that. Anything I
or you would say would just be speculation at best and
projection at worst. 




  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread rmy108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 
 --- rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
  drpetersutphen@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   
   --- Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
   

On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:

 What is the official position of the art of
  living
organization
 regarding whether Maharishi approves of what
  SSRS
is doing?  I tried
 to ask him directly once and he skirted the
question.
 I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY
  said
of SSRS candy
 coated poison


I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where
  he
says (gross  
paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM
should go ahead and  
do it as long they do it correctly, is actually
meant to refer to  
SSRS, not independent non-recertified TM
  teachers
(as is often  
presupposed).

Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock
  of
pranayama and  
meditation instruction in India where he
  initiated
more people into  
inner space than any known human in historical
times: millions of  
humans. All at once.

I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event.
   
   SSRS loves MMY dearly and MMY loves SSRS dearly.
  As
   SSRS said once about gurus, those who know, know
  and
   those who don't, don't. 
   
   
   IF SSRS loves MMY so much, how come its never
  mentioned in any of 
  their publicity materials that he was MMY's
  disciple?
 
 He is  MMY's disciple, not was. As to why he doesn't
 say anything, unless he is directly asked by someone,
 you'll have to ask him and MMY about that. Anything I
 or you would say would just be speculation at best and
 projection at worst. 
 
 
 I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me that if he were 
really still MMY's disciple that he would be proud enough of that 
fact to use it to his advantage.  MMY is world famous, as is TM.  By 
mentioning that, it would give him credibility in some people's 
mind.  But besides that, it is traditional in India to always ,at 
least mention your master.  Look at how MMY always does that.
It seems that there is an assumption among SSRS teachers that he has 
a positive relationship with MMY, but yet mothing official has ever 
been said.  I think this could be a belief system among his followers 
(especially TM people who are with him), so they don't have to deal 
with the conflict of, what if he is, in fact, not approved of by MMY?
 
   
   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Peter


--- rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me
 that if he were 
 really still MMY's disciple that he would be proud
 enough of that 
 fact to use it to his advantage.  MMY is world
 famous, as is TM.  By 
 mentioning that, it would give him credibility in
 some people's 
 mind.

I don't think it really would. I don't think that the
TMO and MMY have the best image in the world and there
are many people who are now getting involved in
spiritual pursuits that have never heard of MMY or TM.



  But besides that, it is traditional in India
 to always ,at 
 least mention your master.  Look at how MMY always
 does that.
 It seems that there is an assumption among SSRS
 teachers that he has 
 a positive relationship with MMY, but yet mothing
 official has ever 
 been said.  I think this could be a belief system
 among his followers 
 (especially TM people who are with him), so they
 don't have to deal 
 with the conflict of, what if he is, in fact, not
 approved of by MMY?

I'm sure some former or current TM with SSRS might
have some cognitive dissonance and might be using the
above to lessen the dissonance. But the relationship
between MMY and SSRS is something between them. What
MMY says about SSRS publically is one thing and what
he says about him privately is another. By the way, I
always thought that MMY's comment about SSRS,
Meditators should watch out for sugar-coated poison.
was quite the compliment. This is one of those
guru-speak things. I say this because of my direct
experiences with MMY as Blazing Brahman and my
direct experiences with SSRS as Blazing Brahman. MMY
couldn't say something negative about SSRS if he
tried. How could he? MMY made SSRS just like Guru
Dev made MMY. Someone like MMY, and SSRS for that
matter, use everything to facilitate realization in
those who have a relationship with them. MMY and SSRS
are just two faces of Brahman. Brahman has lots of
shiny, bright, glowing faces and its own amazing
dharma of Self-Realization.



  


   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me
  that if he were 
  really still MMY's disciple that he would be proud
  enough of that 
  fact to use it to his advantage.  MMY is world
  famous, as is TM.  By 
  mentioning that, it would give him credibility in
  some people's 
  mind.
 
 I don't think it really would. I don't think that the
 TMO and MMY have the best image in the world and there
 are many people who are now getting involved in
 spiritual pursuits that have never heard of MMY or TM.
 
 
 
   But besides that, it is traditional in India
  to always ,at 
  least mention your master.  Look at how MMY always
  does that.
  It seems that there is an assumption among SSRS
  teachers that he has 
  a positive relationship with MMY, but yet mothing
  official has ever 
  been said.  I think this could be a belief system
  among his followers 
  (especially TM people who are with him), so they
  don't have to deal 
  with the conflict of, what if he is, in fact, not
  approved of by MMY?
 
 I'm sure some former or current TM with SSRS might
 have some cognitive dissonance and might be using the
 above to lessen the dissonance. But the relationship
 between MMY and SSRS is something between them. What
 MMY says about SSRS publically is one thing and what
 he says about him privately is another. By the way, I
 always thought that MMY's comment about SSRS,
 Meditators should watch out for sugar-coated poison.
 was quite the compliment. This is one of those
 guru-speak things. I say this because of my direct
 experiences with MMY as Blazing Brahman and my
 direct experiences with SSRS as Blazing Brahman. MMY
 couldn't say something negative about SSRS if he
 tried. How could he? MMY made SSRS just like Guru
 Dev made MMY. Someone like MMY, and SSRS for that
 matter, use everything to facilitate realization in
 those who have a relationship with them. MMY and SSRS
 are just two faces of Brahman. Brahman has lots of
 shiny, bright, glowing faces and its own amazing
 dharma of Self-Realization.

So, for people in the know, MMY was paying SSRS quite a complement, but for 
virtually 
everyone else, he was giving out a deadly insult?

Um... God created the world in 7 24-hour days, but you must have faith to 
believe 
this because God created all the evidence of evolution and geological age in 
order to weed 
out the ones that will choose reason over faith

Have I got that right?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Does this man, from India, who looks like Maharishi, when he was
younger;

really?

   Did he get the techniques he sells, from Maharishi

no
...
   Well the TM technique, we know for sure, he got from Maharishi
He doesn't teach TM
...
   But what about this 'breath' technique, where does that come from...
   I say, from my observation, it comes from his observing Maharishi
breath;
SriSri showed me it once in the 80's.No. 
   While in Samahdhi...
   While I was on the video team, taping Maharishi in Fairfield;
   Back in the Day, (we thought they'd never end!),
   Anyway, I would look at him, sitting on the couch;
   And he would be barely breathing with his eyes closed;
Its nothing like that.
   I can see, how through observation, one could come up,
   With a breath technique, that would mimic-
   A Holy Man's breathing, Maharishi's breath...
   R.G.
A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is
incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
 
   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj


On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:59 AM, shukra69 wrote:A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Incompatible in what way?We have a number of SSRI initiates here: is it really incompatible?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Peter


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 A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
 program. it is
 incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.

Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of
SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program
and it is completely compatable with MMY's program.
You don't know what you're talking about. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj


On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:--- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.  Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about.  Thanks Dr. Pete!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:
 
  --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
  program. it is
  incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
 
  Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of
  SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program
  and it is completely compatable with MMY's program.
  You don't know what you're talking about.
 
I wasn't speaking on whether the techniques which Ravi teaches are 
compatible or not;
I assume they would be, since I was inferring that they are what 
Maharishi teaches;
I was just wondering how much credit he gives to Maharishi, for this 
teaching;
In the same way, I was wondering, how much credit Deepak Chopra;
Gives to Maharishi, for all the knowledge he plagerized from him.
That's all.
I just wanted to bitch.
Nothing personal;
I just think it's strange that these people teach what Maharishi 
teaches, and just never give him any credit.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Peter


--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:
 
  --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
  program. it is
  incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
 
  Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole
 of
  SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis
 program
  and it is completely compatable with MMY's
 program.
  You don't know what you're talking about.
 
 
 Thanks Dr. Pete!

I love these people that talk about something they
have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think
I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation
technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat
Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world
will co-author the article with me.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Peter


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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
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  On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:
  
   --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
   program. it is
   incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
  
   Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole
 of
   SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis
 program
   and it is completely compatable with MMY's
 program.
   You don't know what you're talking about.
  
 I wasn't speaking on whether the techniques which
 Ravi teaches are 
 compatible or not;
 I assume they would be, since I was inferring that
 they are what 
 Maharishi teaches;
 I was just wondering how much credit he gives to
 Maharishi, for this 
 teaching;
 In the same way, I was wondering, how much credit
 Deepak Chopra;
 Gives to Maharishi, for all the knowledge he
 plagerized from him.
 That's all.
 I just wanted to bitch.
 Nothing personal;
 I just think it's strange that these people teach
 what Maharishi 
 teaches, and just never give him any credit.

I understand. SSRS primary emphasis is on teaching his
Sudarshan Kriya and secondarily on what he calls Sahaj
Samadhi meditation.





 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj


On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:  --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.  Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about.  I wasn't speaking on whether the techniques which Ravi teaches are  compatible or not; I assume they would be, since I was inferring that they are what  Maharishi teaches; I was just wondering how much credit he gives to Maharishi, for this  teaching; In the same way, I was wondering, how much credit Deepak Chopra; Gives to Maharishi, for all the knowledge he plagerized from him. That's all. I just wanted to bitch. Nothing personal; I just think it's strange that these people teach what Maharishi  teaches, and just never give him any credit. It's generic dude. 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj


On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Peter wrote:--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:  --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.  Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about.   Thanks Dr. Pete!  I love these people that talk about something they have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world will co-author the article with me. Dude, you should let Spairag and Authfriend footnote it just to be sure to maintain purity!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread randymeltzer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Peter wrote:
 
  --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:
 
  --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
  program. it is
  incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
 
  Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole
  of
  SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis
  program
  and it is completely compatable with MMY's
  program.
  You don't know what you're talking about.
 
 
  Thanks Dr. Pete!
 
  I love these people that talk about something they
  have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think
  I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation
  technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat
  Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world
  will co-author the article with me.
 
 
 Dude, you should let Spairag and Authfriend footnote it just to be  
 sure to maintain purity!

What is the official position of the art of living organization 
regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing?  I tried 
to ask him directly once and he skirted the question.
I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS candy 
coated poison






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread shempmcgurk
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 --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
  program. it is
  incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
 
 Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of
 SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program
 and it is completely compatable with MMY's program.
 You don't know what you're talking about. 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj


On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:What is the official position of the art of living organization  regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing?  I tried  to ask him directly once and he skirted the question. I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS "candy  coated poison" I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he says (gross paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM should go ahead and do it as long they do it correctly, is actually meant to refer to SSRS, not "independent" non-recertified TM teachers (as is often presupposed).Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of pranayama and meditation instruction in India where he initiated more people into inner space than any known human in historical times: millions of humans. All at once.I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:
 
  What is the official position of the art of living organization
  regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing?  I tried
  to ask him directly once and he skirted the question.
  I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS candy
  coated poison
 
 
 I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he says (gross  
 paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM should go ahead and  
 do it as long they do it correctly, is actually meant to refer to  
 SSRS, not independent non-recertified TM teachers (as is often  
 presupposed).
 
 Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of pranayama and  
 meditation instruction in India where he initiated more people into  
 inner space than any known human in historical times: millions of  
 humans. All at once.
 
 I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event.

And when we have thoughts, we silently, effortless come back to the
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
I've taken and practiced the whole of SSRS's program -- at least as 
taught in week long advanced courses -- not TTCs, and done other tape
courses -- Bhakti sutras, Ashtavakra Gita, etc. as far as was
available up to 2001 or so (has a lot changed?). And have done TM for
almost 40 years (yikes) and TM siddhis program. 

AoL is compatable with MMY's program in a strict sense. Many AoLers
who are from TMland do TM meditation -- and do not take the  the Aol
Meditation initiation. 

But, in my experience, this does not mean a two-ways street of
combatibility. TMO things (meditation, AV, etc...) are generally
accepted in Aol (they now have there AV, so maybe there is some bias
now). 

But Aol things would hardly be accepted in the TMO: bajans, hugging
saints (pundit-ji), estatic stuff, guided meditations, mood making
(per TM POV, not AoL's, eg. I belong to you embrace of 500 CPs, new
age / traditional exercises of staring in to others eyes, telling
life stories, sitting down and findingnothing but good things in
a partner/stranger, etc.  

And, when I was active in AoL, it was clear there was a line. Many
Aolers, when i was introduced  to them as a TMer, said, another one
crosses the line.. The presumption was, there is no going back. The
TMO will never accept you back now. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
  program. it is
  incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
 
 Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of
 SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program
 and it is completely compatable with MMY's program.
 You don't know what you're talking about. 







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Peter


--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:
 
  What is the official position of the art of living
 organization
  regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS
 is doing?  I tried
  to ask him directly once and he skirted the
 question.
  I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said
 of SSRS candy
  coated poison
 
 
 I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he
 says (gross  
 paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM
 should go ahead and  
 do it as long they do it correctly, is actually
 meant to refer to  
 SSRS, not independent non-recertified TM teachers
 (as is often  
 presupposed).
 
 Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of
 pranayama and  
 meditation instruction in India where he initiated
 more people into  
 inner space than any known human in historical
 times: millions of  
 humans. All at once.
 
 I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event.

SSRS loves MMY dearly and MMY loves SSRS dearly. As
SSRS said once about gurus, those who know, know and
those who don't, don't. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread rmy108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 
 --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:
  
   What is the official position of the art of living
  organization
   regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS
  is doing?  I tried
   to ask him directly once and he skirted the
  question.
   I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said
  of SSRS candy
   coated poison
  
  
  I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he
  says (gross  
  paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM
  should go ahead and  
  do it as long they do it correctly, is actually
  meant to refer to  
  SSRS, not independent non-recertified TM teachers
  (as is often  
  presupposed).
  
  Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of
  pranayama and  
  meditation instruction in India where he initiated
  more people into  
  inner space than any known human in historical
  times: millions of  
  humans. All at once.
  
  I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event.
 
 SSRS loves MMY dearly and MMY loves SSRS dearly. As
 SSRS said once about gurus, those who know, know and
 those who don't, don't. 
 
 
 IF SSRS loves MMY so much, how come its never mentioned in any of 
their publicity materials that he was MMY's disciple?
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:
 
  What is the official position of the art of living organization
  regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing?  I tried
  to ask him directly once and he skirted the question.
  I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS candy
  coated poison
 
 
 I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he says (gross  
 paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM should go ahead and  
 do it as long they do it correctly, is actually meant to refer to  
 SSRS, not independent non-recertified TM teachers (as is often  
 presupposed).
 
 Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of pranayama and  
 meditation instruction in India where he initiated more people into  
 inner space than any known human in historical times: millions of  
 humans. All at once.
 
 I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event.


Except, as far as I can tell, he initiated them into his breathing technique, 
not meditation...





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