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Yes, John, Maharishi has said about the loss of knowledge, that one factor is simply the long lapse of time. Sobering... On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:03 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, From the vedic perspective, the demise of Atlantis may have been due to the devolution of the its people due to the Yuga cycle. The cycle is estimated to be 24,000 years. From what I've read Atlantis may be older than this period. So, its civilization may have existed a few cyscles before our age. Here is an explanation of Sri Yukteshwar's yuga cycle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE From this explanation, we are supposedly now in the ascending cycle of the Dwapara cycle or the Copper Age. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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What! How do explain atlantean-healing? http://askangels.com/atlantean-healing/ http://askangels.com/atlantean-healing/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Atlantis is a myth. The only mention of it is in a STORY by Plato. Perhaps it refers to a volcano in the Aegean that destroyed the island of Thera (Santorini) which affected the entire area. Folk memories would keep a story alive. The mythical elements of a vast civilisation were added later, possibly as a warning to us that we are slaves to nature no matter how important we think we are.. The new age idea that they were some sort of superior seed civilisation was added much later. The UFO/alien myth was added after people invented UFOs and aliens. What a creative and fascinating species we are! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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LOL, I wish I could explain it! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: What! How do explain atlantean-healing? http://askangels.com/atlantean-healing/ http://askangels.com/atlantean-healing/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Atlantis is a myth. The only mention of it is in a STORY by Plato. Perhaps it refers to a volcano in the Aegean that destroyed the island of Thera (Santorini) which affected the entire area. Folk memories would keep a story alive. The mythical elements of a vast civilisation were added later, possibly as a warning to us that we are slaves to nature no matter how important we think we are.. The new age idea that they were some sort of superior seed civilisation was added much later. The UFO/alien myth was added after people invented UFOs and aliens. What a creative and fascinating species we are! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Yes, I think John Esq. is correct - human civilization may be much older Maybe but how come they left no archaeological remains for us to date and ponder over? How come we have evidence of a move to simple agriculture from our previous hunter/gatherer lifestyle and then, after thousands of years, a sudden growth of larger towns, then cities. Why does the evidence point to a different explanation to the one some people seem so keen to believe in, don't we trust actual evidence any more? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Yes, I think John Esq. is correct - human civilization may be much older, but you have to understand that *recorded history* in India begins with the historical Buddha, circa 563 BC - everything before that is considered to be pre-historical. From what I've read, the first written inscriptions in India date from the time of Ashoka, circa 200 BC, and the erection of the Ashoka Pillar at Sarnath. Campbell was probably referring to the *oral history* in the words contained in the Rig Veda, circa 1200-1500 BC. Certainly there is epigraphic evidence before 1500 BC in the form of monuments, but the remains of edifice architecture in India is dated around 200 BC at the Lomas Rishi cave in Malabar, except for some megalithic structure that were apparently erected before that. The starting point for South Asian pre-history is the neolithic, megalith builders of Dravidian (Mediteranean), Souteast Asian, and Malayan cultures, among many of the cultures that existed in the Indus Valley Civilization around 2400 B.C. On 12/2/2013 5:55 PM, wgm4u wrote: I think he mentioned 'recorded' history; at any rate, if you trace back the genesis of man you'd have to go back before Atlantis and Lemuria, and even before that. Swami Yogananda has said that the human being was a special creation by God; the only creature having all 7 power centers (chakras), thereby the only one having the ability to 'fully' reflect consciousness (God). The consciousness of the highest evolved animals were given the opportunity to take on these special bodies, hence consciousness has evolved from as far back as the mineral, plant, animal and finally man. As it is sometimes said, from clod, to God. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, Ancient civilization could be older than the dates you mentioned. Some current researchers, like John Anthony West and Robert Bauval, are thinking that the Sphinx in Egypt may have been constructed around 30,000 BC. Here's a video about the Pyramid Code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Thanks for the link! According to Joseph Campbell, recorded history begins with the Rig Veda around 1200 B.C. Within the Rig Veda is contained perhaps the first human prophecy, the sayings of the first human progenitor called Manu. Apparently, the Aryans who invaded and destroyed India in 1500 B.C. came from the Middle East; not for nothing is the land they came from called Iran (Campbell 262). It is an interesting fact that all the Vedic Gods are armed to the teeth, including Vishnu himself. Campbell describes the work of James Darmiester, the translator of the Zend Avesta, and notes that Zoroaster was one of the earliest prophets to preach an apocalypse within monotheism. Eschatological teachings were widely disseminated in Persia around 750 B.C. by this famous Persian prophet. Zoroaster's cosmology was based on the concept of a struggle between good and evil (Campbell 269)). Alexander he Great of Macedonia destroyed the Persian Empire, fulfilling the prophecy of Zoroaster. Go figure. Campbell, Joseph. The Masks of God. London: Hammondsworth: 1986 On 12/2/2013 11:36 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: Yes, I think John Esq. is correct - human civilization may be much older Maybe but how come they left no archaeological remains for us to date and ponder over? How come we have evidence of a move to simple agriculture from our previous hunter/gatherer lifestyle and then, after thousands of years, a sudden growth of larger towns, then cities. Why does the evidence point to a different explanation to the one some people seem so keen to believe in, don't we trust actual evidence any more? I think that the tendency to believe in things like Atlantis and Lemuria and the like can all be attributed to self-importance on the part of the people believing in these things. They heard something or read something that makes them feel special and self-important because *they* know these things, and the people they look down on as not as special don't.
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turq! This is exactly what you used to say when we were all in Atlantis together! PS to emptybill: wonder what they ate for Thanksgiving in Atlantis... PS to Emily: I never heard of atlantean healing.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: What! How do explain atlantean-healing? http://askangels.com/atlantean-healing/ http://askangels.com/atlantean-healing/ Birkan Tore has the answer Emily. I think we might be missing something if we don't book a seminar or at least a private consultation. I'm game if you are. OTOH, he certainly looks like a candidate for FF. I can see the women flocking to the man in droves with their walkers and in their Earth Shoes as he wanders the town square. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Atlantis is a myth. The only mention of it is in a STORY by Plato. Perhaps it refers to a volcano in the Aegean that destroyed the island of Thera (Santorini) which affected the entire area. Folk memories would keep a story alive. The mythical elements of a vast civilisation were added later, possibly as a warning to us that we are slaves to nature no matter how important we think we are.. The new age idea that they were some sort of superior seed civilisation was added much later. The UFO/alien myth was added after people invented UFOs and aliens. What a creative and fascinating species we are! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: Yes, I think John Esq. is correct - human civilization may be much older Maybe but how come they left no archaeological remains for us to date and ponder over? How come we have evidence of a move to simple agriculture from our previous hunter/gatherer lifestyle and then, after thousands of years, a sudden growth of larger towns, then cities. Why does the evidence point to a different explanation to the one some people seem so keen to believe in, don't we trust actual evidence any more? I think that the tendency to believe in things like Atlantis and Lemuria and the like can all be attributed to self-importance on the part of the people believing in these things. They heard something or read something that makes them feel special and self-important because *they* know these things, and the people they look down on as not as special don't. Yes, absolutely Barry. When one investigates and is curious about the possibility of the existence of earlier cultures or other mysteries concerning the history of the human race, real or simply the product of myth, it must mean those people are full, simply choc-a-bloc, with self-importance. Why didn't I realize that? How logical, how obvious, how ridiculous and laugh-worthy such people are. You have provided me with a real insight here, Bare, and one I know would make the historians, not to mention the entire psychiatric community, reel by its obvious profundity.
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Oh noes! Salyavin wrote: Atlantis is a myth. The only mention of it is in a STORY by Plato. Perhaps it refers to a volcano in the Aegean that destroyed the island of Thera (Santorini) which affected the entire area. Folk memories would keep a story alive. The mythical elements of a vast civilisation were added later, possibly as a warning to us that we are slaves to nature no matter how important we think we are.. The new age idea that they were some sort of superior seed civilisation was added much later. The UFO/alien myth was added after people invented UFOs and aliens. What a creative and fascinating species we are! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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snip Barry wrote: I think that the tendency to believe in things like Atlantis and Lemuria and the like can all be attributed to self-importance on the part of the people believing in these things. They heard something or read something that makes them feel special and self-important because *they* know these things, and the people they look down on as not as special don't. Ann wrote: Yes, absolutely Barry. When one investigates and is curious about the possibility of the existence of earlier cultures or other mysteries concerning the history of the human race, real or simply the product of myth, it must mean those people are full, simply choc-a-bloc, with self-importance. Why didn't I realize that? How logical, how obvious, how ridiculous and laugh-worthy such people are. You have provided me with a real insight here, Bare, and one I know would make the historians, not to mention the entire psychiatric community, reel by its obvious profundity. It's amazing how many human tendencies are due simply to self-importance, innit? It's the answer to pretty much everything. And we'd never have known if Barry hadn't told us. I guess he's able to see it so clearly because he himself has never felt even the slightest twinge of self-importance. We just aren't as special as he is, alas.
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Ann, I knew you would pick up on the important thing in that link and I'm game if you are. Yes, he is a real looker, a real charmer I'm betting. Personally, I'd like to know what products he uses on his hair. Although Share has never heard of this healing therapy, I'm pretty sure that it would do her good; he probably has something valuable to say about better sex for women and bodily fluids too (did I just cross a boundary?)
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Oh, hey, you guys, if you want to save a few bucks, you can just get this CD: Atlantean Healing Meditation CD Always wanted to visit Atlantis? Here’s your chance! Atlantean Healing Meditation takes you to a healing temple in the Golden Atlantis where you will meet with Archangels and Ascended Masters and have the opportunity to ask your most pressing questions. It has been channeled to help you re-connect and work with these powerful light beings and healing energies of Atlantis in the privacy of your own home. The meditation has several segments which will help you experience relaxation and healing on various levels. The segments are focused on: Forgiveness, Healing the inner-child Clearing negativity Cutting cords Receiving messages from the Ascended Masters and the Archangels Oh, man, I'm in! This is just what Feste said I needed. (He didn't mention messages from the Ascended Masters and the Archangels, but I'm sure he wouldn't disapprove.). And only 15 Euros for the CD! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: What! How do explain atlantean-healing? http://askangels.com/atlantean-healing/ http://askangels.com/atlantean-healing/ Birkan Tore has the answer Emily. I think we might be missing something if we don't book a seminar or at least a private consultation. I'm game if you are. OTOH, he certainly looks like a candidate for FF. I can see the women flocking to the man in droves with their walkers and in their Earth Shoes as he wanders the town square.
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Emily, This is something new to me. Good research. But who is that guy? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: What! How do explain atlantean-healing? http://askangels.com/atlantean-healing/ http://askangels.com/atlantean-healing/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Atlantis is a myth. The only mention of it is in a STORY by Plato. Perhaps it refers to a volcano in the Aegean that destroyed the island of Thera (Santorini) which affected the entire area. Folk memories would keep a story alive. The mythical elements of a vast civilisation were added later, possibly as a warning to us that we are slaves to nature no matter how important we think we are.. The new age idea that they were some sort of superior seed civilisation was added much later. The UFO/alien myth was added after people invented UFOs and aliens. What a creative and fascinating species we are! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Well John, I don't know who he is. Certainly, he is a man who loves his hair; a man who carefully cultivates his persona. A guy who is selling himself and his unique skill-set in the pursuit of giving to others, helping heal the pain of living in this world. An expert, I am guessing and maybe even an enlightened expert. He cavorts with supposed angels, does he not? Positive entities in the astral plane, trying to help humanity, and take us to the next level? Are we not suffering in the Dark Age of Kali Yuga right now? He is here to help.
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How does one go about working with light beings the name implies they will be forever moving away from you at 186,000 miles per second. And surely ascended masters should have, you know, ascended somewhere? Yours Baffled of England...
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Now Sal! You jist tryin' to stir thangs up! On Tue, 12/3/13, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 6:11 PM How does one go about working with light beings the name implies they will be forever moving away from you at 186,000 miles per second. And surely ascended masters should have, you know, ascended somewhere? Yours Baffled of England...
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heh heh...
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Well John, I don't know who he is. Certainly, he is a man who loves his hair; a man who carefully cultivates his persona. A guy who is selling himself and his unique skill-set in the pursuit of giving to others, helping heal the pain of living in this world. An expert, I am guessing and maybe even an enlightened expert. He cavorts with supposed angels, does he not? Positive entities in the astral plane, trying to help humanity, and take us to the next level? Are we not suffering in the Dark Age of Kali Yuga right now? He is here to help. Nicely and reverently spoken, dear Em. I think you may be worthy of a visitation with him. You will have to discipline yourself, however, to keep your mind off his hair and on the more spiritual and healing aspects of what he will have to offer. In the meantime, I have made him my screen saver.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: How does one go about working with light beings the name implies they will be forever moving away from you at 186,000 miles per second. And surely ascended masters should have, you know, ascended somewhere? Yours Baffled of England... Dear Baffled of England, You appear a doubter to me. You seem to possess a scientist's sensibility. This may be prohibiting you from opening yourself up to the endless possibilities that exist around us. Focus on the blond hair of Birkan and imagine yourself in the echoing halls of the great Vikings, feasting on the foot of some Descended Master. Or perhaps you should spend the 15 Euro to procure the CD, I am sure it will be worth its weight in photons.
[FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel
Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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And it's all true, Share. Every last bit of it. I read a book about it. And I saw The Matrix too. Share enthused: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all is but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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We may have to leave it up to Empty or BillyG to explain Atlantis. But, I do know a little about the Levant. The question is, did the Hindus help write the Bible? The entire Levant is probably Vedic influenced. A long time ago the Sanskrit speaking Aryans came out of the Caucasus and into Persia on their way to India. Their ideology may have given rise to Zoroaster and Mani. According to the Bible, Abraham came out of UR and went to Mari to marry Sarah (apparently he also had a cook named Hagar) and then they went to the Levant with some camels. Not for nothing did they call him 'Abrahm' and her, 'Sarai (Brahma and Saraswati). But, in fact, there is probably no historical 'Abraham' or 'Sarah' who came from Ur or Mari, or a Hagar for that matter; it's just a myth, a story, to illustrate a political point. There are many myths surrounding the person of 'Abraham'. Read more: False testament: archaeology refutes the Bible's claim to history by Daniel Lazare Harper's Magazine , March 2002 Titles of interest: Unearthing the Bible by Israel Finklestein and Neil Asher Siberman The Free Press, 2001 The Mythic Past by Thomas L. Thompson Basic Books, 2001 On 12/2/2013 9:19 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Well, it looks like our resident editor is not quite ready to post anything except more prattle today. Go figure. Apparently speech recognition not quite ready for prime time either. So, I dictated a reply using Dragon Naturally Speaking with not a single key touch, and this makes more sense than what Judy has posted all weekend. LoL! Fertile crash ant Uruk Sumer a remarkably innovative despot resume area is constructed, elaborate irrigation systems, the racket monumental temple zignots to their gods and devise the first law codes to protect property and lost her social order. By wheel and rite and they do we all in the fourth millennium B.C. they facilitated travel, trade, and economic prosperity. Number the sums sixty divide our circle three sixty a brickbat stair link earth to inhab sky anon. On 12/2/2013 9:43 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: And it's all true, Share. Every last bit of it. I read a book about it. And I saw The Matrix too. Share enthused: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about allis but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Richard, This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Oops, my mistake. THIS is the least likely news story of the decade. This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Judy, Scientists have been discussing the possibility that the universe is the ultimate computer, as shown in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKkiy24LqBQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKkiy24LqBQ But, ultimately, the underlying concept that they're trying to say is that consciousness (the computer) is the basis of the universe IMO. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: And it's all true, Share. Every last bit of it. I read a book about it. And I saw The Matrix too. Share enthused: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all is but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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And, the chariots of the Gods? As it happens, the only evidence which establishes any kind of antiquity for the Aryan gods, as a matter of certainty and not mere supposition, is epigraphic (ancient inscriptions). It has however been found not in India but in Asia Minor. The reference is in a tablet in Hittite cuneiform and written in the Akkadian language, discovered at Boghazkoy. The document is an adjunct to a treaty between the Hittite king Suppiluliuma and his son-in-law, the Mitannian king Kurtiwaza, and it contains a long list of the gods of the peoples who were parties to it. The date of the tablet must be some year within the reign of Suppiluliuma, which was from 1370 B.C. to 1335 B.C. According to Hittite cuneiform written in the Akkadian language. The gods are invoked to witness the conclusion of the treaty and guarantee its observance. The gods of the Mitannians are named in these forms: Mi-it-ra, U-ru-ua-na, In-da-ra, and Na-sa-at-ti-ia-an-na. It is evident that these names correspond to Mitra, Varuna, Indra, and Nasatuau of the Vedic pantheon. The following curse is pronounced against the Mitannians: If you, Kurtiwaza, the prince, and the sons of the Hurri country do not fulfill the words of the treaty, may the gods, the lords of earth, blot you out, you and the Hurri men together with your country, your wives, and all that you have. This suggests that these gods were deities of local principalities. There is also a close linguistic affinity between the Mitannians and the Indo-Aryans in respect to cuneiform, which contains the so-called Horse Treatise by a Mitannian named Kikkuli. This was also found at Boghazkoy. Reference: Hinduism by Nirad Chaudhuri Oxford University Press, 1979 pg 42. Notes: 1. For the original document see Keilschrifttexte aus Boghazkoy (1916-68). Translation by A. Goetze is in Ancient Near Texts relating to the Old Testamant, edited by J.B. Pritchard. Third Edition (1969), p.205. 2. For the Horse Treatise see Hippologica Hethitica by Annelies Kammenhuber (1961). On 12/2/2013 10:36 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Thanks for the link! According to Joseph Campbell, recorded history begins with the Rig Veda around 1200 B.C. Within the Rig Veda is contained perhaps the first human prophecy, the sayings of the first human progenitor called Manu. Apparently, the Aryans who invaded and destroyed India in 1500 B.C. came from the Middle East; not for nothing is the land they came from called Iran (Campbell 262). It is an interesting fact that all the Vedic Gods are armed to the teeth, including Vishnu himself. Campbell describes the work of James Darmiester, the translator of the Zend Avesta, and notes that Zoroaster was one of the earliest prophets to preach an apocalypse within monotheism. Eschatological teachings were widely disseminated in Persia around 750 B.C. by this famous Persian prophet. Zoroaster's cosmology was based on the concept of a struggle between good and evil (Campbell 269)). Alexander he Great of Macedonia destroyed the Persian Empire, fulfilling the prophecy of Zoroaster. Go figure. Campbell, Joseph. The Masks of God. London: Hammondsworth: 1986 On 12/2/2013 11:36 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Salyavin, FWIW, here's a brief summary of Sitchin's ideas regarding the Annunakis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa5r0nQ8ms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa5r0nQ8ms ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oops, my mistake. THIS is the least likely news story of the decade. This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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FWIW? Not much, but highly entertaining. I used to like Erich von Daniken but then I learned critical thinking and the importance of checking sources. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Salyavin, FWIW, here's a brief summary of Sitchin's ideas regarding the Annunakis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa5r0nQ8ms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa5r0nQ8ms ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oops, my mistake. THIS is the least likely news story of the decade. This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Maybe so, but that doesn't answer the question of how and why the ancients built Stonehenge in Wiltshire, England or how workers constructed Machu Picchu in Cusco, Peru. It seems like we've had a lot of help from someone, at some time in the past in order to drill straight through solid granite without a metal tool. And, why? That's a very large public works project! We all came from somewhere; almost everything on the planet came from outer space. So, it's not a stretch to think there are other entities much more advanced than ourselves out there that could come here in the future and came here in the past. There's no logical reason I can think of that would indicate that we are alone in the universe. Anyone can disbelieve the scriptures written by humans, but you can't deny the existence of rocks made of space minerals. I've never seen a UFO myself, but I'm convinced that there are spiritual beings out there that we can't see right now - it would be very earth-centric to think that we are alone in space with billions and billions of stars and galaxies out there. So many questions, so few answers. On 12/2/2013 12:40 PM, salyavin808 wrote: FWIW? Not much, but highly entertaining. I used to like Erich von Daniken but then I learned critical thinking and the importance of checking sources. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Salyavin, FWIW, here's a brief summary of Sitchin's ideas regarding the Annunakis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa5r0nQ8ms ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oops, my mistake. THIS is the least likely news story of the decade. This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, This sounds like Zachariah Sitchin's idea of the Annunakis, who supposedly performed genetic engineering on prehistoric human ancestors to make them look like them. So, in short, the human beings today look like the Annunakis, who were the gods that came from the skies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Maybe so, but that doesn't answer the question of how and why the ancients built Stonehenge in Wiltshire, England or how workers constructed Machu Picchu in Cusco, Peru. How and why? How=they dragged stones from elsewhere. Not difficult to work out, at stonehenge they know where they all came from, some from as far as south Wales! Why? Good question, many theories exist from an ancient meeting place for healing rituals to site for human sacrifice at solstices. The difference between actual archaeology and the Sitchin/von Daniken crowd is that theories are put forward based on evidence that is discovered, as we learn more about our ancestors we can come up with better ideas about how they saw the world and what they were trying to achieve. Trouble is they lived so long ago we can only make educated guesses, certainty is right out of the equation. Which isn't the case with the ancient astronaut theorists, the list of intellectual errors and sloppy science that this lot indulge in drives proper archaeologists crazy, especially as their books outsell credible research by a thousand to one! What accounts for this? Why do people have a need to believe that we came from some ancient super-race? It's a much more interesting mystery that anything von Daniken came up with... It seems like we've had a lot of help from someone, at some time in the past in order to drill straight through solid granite without a metal tool. And, why? That's a very large public works project! That's just it, nothing I've seen (and I have visited a great many ancient sites) makes me think that the builders had some sort of supernormal help. In fact I think it's an insult our forefathers to think they must have had UFOs levitating stones to the top of the pyramids or whatever. This was all done by cunning, brute force and devotion. Give them some credit. Remember it's YOU that needs to believe in a golden age we've descended from. I think psychologists call it the legend of the fall and it stems from our natural sense of dislocation from nature that arises from birth and the awareness that we've lost our mother. Everyone gets it, we all think life was better once and seek ways to regain what we instinctively feel we've lost. It's just life guys. We all came from somewhere; almost everything on the planet came from outer space. So, it's not a stretch to think there are other entities much more advanced than ourselves out there that could come here in the future and came here in the past. There's no logical reason I can think of that would indicate that we are alone in the universe. Well maybe not, but that isn't any sort of logical proof that we've been visited. I think you need proof that some people did something that actually couldn't have been done with what they had available. Or, even better, a buried spaceship or something. All von Daniken had was his woeful misinterpretations of ancient carvings. For some reason he thought that because something looked like what we would call spaceship now it must have been a spaceship then. It's his own ignorance about what people can achieve with simple tools that led him to think they must have aliens we couldn't do this now is a common refrain from this crowd. Probably not, we'd just do it differently. If the ancients had built something that still seems like advanced technology to us, then we'd know they had some help but everything they did was in phase one building materials. Rocks and stuff they could melt out of them. No plastics or synthetic compounds. Just stuff you find on the ground, are you suggesting ancient astronauts flew here on logs? Where is their legacy other than things we don't seem able to give credit to our earlier selves for?
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Richard, Ancient civilization could be older than the dates you mentioned. Some current researchers, like John Anthony West and Robert Bauval, are thinking that the Sphinx in Egypt may have been constructed around 30,000 BC. Here's a video about the Pyramid Code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Thanks for the link! According to Joseph Campbell, recorded history begins with the Rig Veda around 1200 B.C. Within the Rig Veda is contained perhaps the first human prophecy, the sayings of the first human progenitor called Manu. Apparently, the Aryans who invaded and destroyed India in 1500 B.C. came from the Middle East; not for nothing is the land they came from called Iran (Campbell 262). It is an interesting fact that all the Vedic Gods are armed to the teeth, including Vishnu himself. Campbell describes the work of James Darmiester, the translator of the Zend Avesta, and notes that Zoroaster was one of the earliest prophets to preach an apocalypse within monotheism. Eschatological teachings were widely disseminated in Persia around 750 B.C. by this famous Persian prophet. Zoroaster's cosmology was based on the concept of a struggle between good and evil (Campbell 269)). Alexander he Great of Macedonia destroyed the Persian Empire, fulfilling the prophecy of Zoroaster. Go figure. Campbell, Joseph. The Masks of God. London: Hammondsworth: 1986 On 12/2/2013 11:36 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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I think he mentioned 'recorded' history; at any rate, if you trace back the genesis of man you'd have to go back before Atlantis and Lemuria, and even before that. Swami Yogananda has said that the human being was a special creation by God; the only creature having all 7 power centers (chakras), thereby the only one having the ability to 'fully' reflect consciousness (God). The consciousness of the highest evolved animals were given the opportunity to take on these special bodies, hence consciousness has evolved from as far back as the mineral, plant, animal and finally man. As it is sometimes said, from clod, to God. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, Ancient civilization could be older than the dates you mentioned. Some current researchers, like John Anthony West and Robert Bauval, are thinking that the Sphinx in Egypt may have been constructed around 30,000 BC. Here's a video about the Pyramid Code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Thanks for the link! According to Joseph Campbell, recorded history begins with the Rig Veda around 1200 B.C. Within the Rig Veda is contained perhaps the first human prophecy, the sayings of the first human progenitor called Manu. Apparently, the Aryans who invaded and destroyed India in 1500 B.C. came from the Middle East; not for nothing is the land they came from called Iran (Campbell 262). It is an interesting fact that all the Vedic Gods are armed to the teeth, including Vishnu himself. Campbell describes the work of James Darmiester, the translator of the Zend Avesta, and notes that Zoroaster was one of the earliest prophets to preach an apocalypse within monotheism. Eschatological teachings were widely disseminated in Persia around 750 B.C. by this famous Persian prophet. Zoroaster's cosmology was based on the concept of a struggle between good and evil (Campbell 269)). Alexander he Great of Macedonia destroyed the Persian Empire, fulfilling the prophecy of Zoroaster. Go figure. Campbell, Joseph. The Masks of God. London: Hammondsworth: 1986 On 12/2/2013 11:36 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Share, you might like this, though watch out, it's over an hour long, but worth the effort. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY Manly Hall is probably the best read and most knowledgeable of esoteric writings and myth. He travelled the World over seeking all the great libraries and books of the World. He has his own collectors Library, truly a unique individual. (In case you didn't already know) . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Yes, Share, that's what happened. Whoever told you that knew exactly how it all fell out. Share pondered: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed.
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Come on Judy, don't be so cynical. You used to be more courteous, what happened? Generally, I like you, you like to engage, I like that! :-) (BTW, you might like this too, Mr. Hall was the best informed on Atlantis, bar none! He basis his observations on his own research) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yes, Share, that's what happened. Whoever told you that knew exactly how it all fell out. Share pondered: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed.
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Cynical? Moi? What makes you think I'm cynical? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Come on Judy, don't be so cynical. You used to be more courteous, what happened? Generally, I like you, you like to engage, I like that! :-) (BTW, you might like this too, Mr. Hall was the best informed on Atlantis, bar none! He basis his observations on his own research) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yes, Share, that's what happened. Whoever told you that knew exactly how it all fell out. Share pondered: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed.
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Share, From the vedic perspective, the demise of Atlantis may have been due to the devolution of the its people due to the Yuga cycle. The cycle is estimated to be 24,000 years. From what I've read Atlantis may be older than this period. So, its civilization may have existed a few cyscles before our age. Here is an explanation of Sri Yukteshwar's yuga cycle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE From this explanation, we are supposedly now in the ascending cycle of the Dwapara cycle or the Copper Age. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
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Yes, I think John Esq. is correct - human civilization may be much older, but you have to understand that *recorded history* in India begins with the historical Buddha, circa 563 BC - everything before that is considered to be pre-historical. From what I've read, the first written inscriptions in India date from the time of Ashoka, circa 200 BC, and the erection of the Ashoka Pillar at Sarnath. Campbell was probably referring to the *oral history* in the words contained in the Rig Veda, circa 1200-1500 BC. Certainly there is epigraphic evidence before 1500 BC in the form of monuments, but the remains of edifice architecture in India is dated around 200 BC at the Lomas Rishi cave in Malabar, except for some megalithic structure that were apparently erected before that. The starting point for South Asian pre-history is the neolithic, megalith builders of Dravidian (Mediteranean), Souteast Asian, and Malayan cultures, among many of the cultures that existed in the Indus Valley Civilization around 2400 B.C. On 12/2/2013 5:55 PM, wgm4u wrote: I think he mentioned 'recorded' history; at any rate, if you trace back the genesis of man you'd have to go back before Atlantis and Lemuria, and even before that. Swami Yogananda has said that the human being was a special creation by God; the only creature having all 7 power centers (chakras), thereby the only one having the ability to 'fully' reflect consciousness (God). The consciousness of the highest evolved animals were given the opportunity to take on these special bodies, hence consciousness has evolved from as far back as the mineral, plant, animal and finally man. As it is sometimes said, from clod, to God. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, Ancient civilization could be older than the dates you mentioned. Some current researchers, like John Anthony West and Robert Bauval, are thinking that the Sphinx in Egypt may have been constructed around 30,000 BC. Here's a video about the Pyramid Code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JZHyWpyzDo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Thanks for the link! According to Joseph Campbell, recorded history begins with the Rig Veda around 1200 B.C. Within the Rig Veda is contained perhaps the first human prophecy, the sayings of the first human progenitor called Manu. Apparently, the Aryans who invaded and destroyed India in 1500 B.C. came from the Middle East; not for nothing is the land they came from called Iran (Campbell 262). It is an interesting fact that all the Vedic Gods are armed to the teeth, including Vishnu himself. Campbell describes the work of James Darmiester, the translator of the Zend Avesta, and notes that Zoroaster was one of the earliest prophets to preach an apocalypse within monotheism. Eschatological teachings were widely disseminated in Persia around 750 B.C. by this famous Persian prophet. Zoroaster's cosmology was based on the concept of a struggle between good and evil (Campbell 269)). Alexander he Great of Macedonia destroyed the Persian Empire, fulfilling the prophecy of Zoroaster. Go figure. Campbell, Joseph. The Masks of God. London: Hammondsworth: 1986 On 12/2/2013 11:36 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as
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Duh ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Cynical? Moi? What makes you think I'm cynical? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Come on Judy, don't be so cynical. You used to be more courteous, what happened? Generally, I like you, you like to engage, I like that! :-) (BTW, you might like this too, Mr. Hall was the best informed on Atlantis, bar none! He basis his observations on his own research) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBoA1686BQY ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yes, Share, that's what happened. Whoever told you that knew exactly how it all fell out. Share pondered: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yes, Share, that's what happened. Whoever told you that knew exactly how it all fell out. Share pondered: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed.
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Atlantis is a myth. The only mention of it is in a STORY by Plato. Perhaps it refers to a volcano in the Aegean that destroyed the island of Thera (Santorini) which affected the entire area. Folk memories would keep a story alive. The mythical elements of a vast civilisation were added later, possibly as a warning to us that we are slaves to nature no matter how important we think we are.. The new age idea that they were some sort of superior seed civilisation was added much later. The UFO/alien myth was added after people invented UFOs and aliens. What a creative and fascinating species we are! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, I wonder what really happened in Atlantis. They were so evolved but then they turned to the dark side. I've heard that's why they were destroyed. On Monday, December 2, 2013 11:37 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, You might find the ideas of Michael Cremo, who supports the antiquity of the vedic civilization, interesting. In short, he is stating that humans today are a product of a devolution from highly evolved humans in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZL7tcLgX8 So, IMO Atlantis and its people can be considered as part of this vedic civilization. They were supposedly highly developed in consciousness and technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, John or anyone, where does Atlantis fit into this scenario of Sumerians? It seems they were an advanced race with highly developed technologies. I've not read much about all this but find it fascinating. I also wonder how the ancient Vedic civilization fits in with all this. On Monday, December 2, 2013 8:54 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: The idea that human beings are a slave race, forced to work inside a human body, owned and operated by an alien or extraterrestrial society, is not a new one. The Book of Genesis, based on ideas contained in the Sumerian religion, describes an advanced society, which flourished around 3500 B.C. Aliens posing as the Gods for a custodial race? Like other ancient societies, the Sumerians left records stating that human-like creatures of extraterrestrial origin had ruled early human society as Earth's first monarchs. Those alien people were often thought of as gods. Some people believe that a Supreme Being is behind the vicious Machiavellian intentions described in the Bible. However, the idea that a Custodial race posing as a Supreme Being seems to provide a true breakthrough by pointing to a brutal technological society, not a Supreme Being, as the more likely source of such warlike machinations. On 12/2/2013 2:22 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Santos Bonacci believes that these tribes refer to the twelve signs of the zodiac. So, the tribes refer to all human beings who are or were born on earth during the 12 months of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkyrQcQzEg If there are ETs or other human beings in the universe, IMO these entities can be classified according to various sectors of the skies that belong to each zodiac sign. Specifically, if there are ETs in the star group of Pleiades, they would belong to the sign of Taurus since the star group is located in this constellation.
