[FairfieldLife] geese

2009-05-30 Thread yifuxero
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[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle at Waylands Smithy, Oxfordshire. Reported 29th May.

2009-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008







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[FairfieldLife] The mosquitos of Sitges / The mosquitos of FFL

2009-05-30 Thread TurquoiseB
It's now summer here in Sitges, even if the rest
of you have to wait until the Solstice for it to
be official in your part of the world. The skies
are blue, the sun is out, and it's starting to
get not just comfortably warm, but occasionally
uncomfortably hot. The tourists are starting to
arrive in droves.

Unfortunately, so are the mosquitoes. Comes with
having a big garden and liking to keep my patio
doors open during the day to feel the breeze. The 
little bastards sneak in during the day and like 
to try to torment me during the night. I'll be 
in bed, just about to drop off into sleep, and 
I'll hear this BZZZ as one of them
dive-bombs my head. 

I spent some time in defend myself mode, cruis-
ing the house with a flyswatter before going to
sleep, but it never helped. They just hid; they're
that smart. So I wound up taking the opposite 
approach with them. I started dropping garlic 
tablets before bedtime and spraying myself with 
an herbal mosquito repellent. Works like a charm;
I haven't been bitten since. 

The mosquitoes understand that they can no longer
actually land on me and feed, and it makes them
CRAZY. They persist in dive-bombing my head while
I'm sleeping, trying to disturb my peace of mind.
But they don't. I've learned to ignore them as
the petty pissants they are.

There is a similar situation here on Fairfield Life.

A number of posters on this forum -- like mosquitoes
-- seem to feed off of the other posters. Whereas
the mosquitoes are *needy* and must suck blood to 
live, the mosquito-posters on FFL are equally needy,
but suck attention. They live to force their way
into other posters' attention and get them to focus
on them. These mosquito-posters don't seem to care
what the nature of the attention is; be it positive
or negative, it doesn't matter as long as they're
getting attention. Ignore them, and they keep buzz-
ing past your head, hoping that you'll get up and
chase them with a verbal flyswatter again.

No more. 

I've started taking my metaphorical garlic pills,
and hopefully they'll work as well on these vampires
as they do on the mosquitoes. And yes, I *know* that
they'll keep buzzing me, trying to get my attention.

But I don't have to give it to them.

I've been taking this approach with Willytex for
some time, and it's seemed to work. He rarely even
tries to get my attention any more. It's worked to
some extent on ed11; he/she rarely bothers to buzz
me any more, except to play pile on to others'
attempts at buzzing. A good start.

Now comes the real experiment. If I consign Judy 
and Edg to the same genus of bothersome insectae 
and ignore their needy asses and desire to suck 
attention, what will happen? 

My bet is that they'll react just like the Sitges
mosquitoes. They'll redouble their efforts at buzz-
ing me, trying to get me to get up and try to chase 
them with a flyswatter. But if I don't, what will 
they do then? Will they *still* keep buzzing me? 
Will they continue to act so needy even when it 
becomes apparent to everyone on this forum *that* 
all that's being played out is their own neediness?

We'll see. 

A new experiment. Gulp...down the FFL garlic tablets.
Spritz...spray on the herbal mosquito repellent. Now
kick back and wait for the buzzing to begin. And
ignore it if I can. 

They can't bite me and feed on the attention they 
need to survive unless I allow them to. That I know. 
But like the mosquitoes they'll try their best to 
make my life miserable *because* they can no longer 
feed. My only recourse at this point seems to be to 
do what I did with the mosquitoes and ignore their 
needy asses.

P.S. I might still swat at them from time to time,
just for the fun of it, but on my own terms, not
on theirs. It's weak of me I know, but I do the
same thing with the mosquitoes. A big fat one lands
on the wall while I'm sitting on the sofa, and lured
into a sense of complacency since I don't get up
and chase them at night, just sits there thinking
it's safe. Swat. Big bloody smear on the wall, Yes,
I have to get up and clean the wall afterwards, but 
it's worth it.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Who is Rush Limbaugh?'

2009-05-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of sparaig
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 7:18 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Who is Rush Limbaugh?'
  
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ]
  On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
  Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:41 PM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
 
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Who is Rush Limbaugh?'
  
  He says in this transcript that he doesn't meditate, but that he knows
 about
  it because friends do it, but I got a call from a friend this morning, who
  read this thread, who said he meditated with Rush just recently.
 
 So who you going to believe, the Great Rush Limbaugh, or your anonymous 
 friend?
 My friend is reliable. In fact, before posting my comment, I showed him what
 I was going to post, and it included an additional sentence which reflected
 my opinion, but might have been misconstrued as factual. My friend suggested
 I delete it, and only post what he knew from his experience to be factual,
 e.g., that he had meditated with Limbaugh last month. April 17, to be
 precise.



'twas a joke, Rick, a joke. I generally don't call Rush great and you know 
who your friend is so he/she is not anonymous.


L.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Hollywoods Fastest Growing Religion

2009-05-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu buttspli...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  Stu wrote:
  
   I have been working on The Office.  Just finished the 
   season.  Been taking it easy for the last month or so, 
   have a few irons in the fire.  All in all I am living 
   the dream in the 'wood.
  
  Good to hear that.  I've been hearing about cutbacks in 
  productions due to the economy. Must be hitting Hollywood 
  hard.  I'm hoping that leaner budgets may put more of an 
  emphasis on writing to carry a show. Lower budget projects 
  like Burn Notice are very entertaining.  I also liked 
  the pilot for Mental which is lean more in a BBC way.
 
 I wish I could be so positive about the budget cuts. Generally 
 it means they are less likely to hire writers to come up with 
 fresh ideas, instead the suits look to remake old shows or hope 
 star power will carry a series. They cut back on writing staffs.

Stu, is there anything general you can say about
the percentages in a show's budget? Like how much
is spent on star power, how much on writers, and
how much on actual production?

One of the reasons I ask is that I can only imagine
that on the loathsome US version of life On Mars
they spent their entire budget on Harvey Keitel and
had nothing left over to hire writers with, so they
made do with an infinite number of monkeys chained
to typewriters.  :-)

 The corporate world hates taking chances in the best of times.  
 Now innovation and surprise are dead.

As shown by the fate so far of Kings. One of the
most interesting shows I've seen come from mainstream
television in years, and it's toast. Then again, no
one seems to have watched it, which shows the if the
audience prefers to eat shit, few are going to try to 
serve them more nourishing meals.

On the other hand, Dollhouse survived. That's encour-
aging. I liked it.

For the upcoming summer season I really don't know if 
there is anything I look forward to except True Blood
and Californication. The HBO series Into The Storm
looks good, mainly because it's the great Brendan
Gleeson playing Churchill. 

 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Vaj

On May 29, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:

 Jay Randolph Coplin, in his dissertation on the history of the SRM,  
 writes that in an interview with the then-Shankaracharya of Jyotir  
 Math, Vasudevananda (the successor to Guru Dev's successor,  
 Shantanand, and predecessor of the current Shankaracharya,  
 Vishnudevananda, in Shantanand's line) -- Vasudevananda told Coplin  
 that it was the Jyotir Math Peeth, itself, that bestowed the title  
 Maharishi.


Interesting, nothing I've read by Coplin recently includes that, nor  
does it appear to be mentioned in any official movement history. Being  
a hardcore TB, I consider Coplin a questionable source. It also seems  
questionable for a low caste person in the Shankaracharya. It also  
goes against the fact that some Shankaracharyas refused to call him  
Maharishi, instead referring to him simply as Mahesh. I suspect this  
probably came from one of the bought Shankaracharyas. Given that the  
people I've met at the Shankaracharya considered MMY some sort of  
demon who was destined for hell, I have to question the utter  
disparity. With no independent source to verify this, I'd have to  
consider the assertion TB tinkering or just tinkering from the  
broken and embattled lineage of the north. Certainly the most  
reputable remaining Math, Srinigiri, doesn't recognize him. In fact  
the Shankaracharya of the south didn't even know who he was and  
commented that his mind seemed like a supermarket. None of the silence  
and bliss he loved to brag about.

It would be interesting to see this manuscript. I've notice a number  
of questionable claims from Coplin on the web. It's curious that the  
manuscript can be found nowhere. Perhaps someone could post it to the  
files section?


RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hollywood's Fastest Growing Religion

2009-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Stu
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 7:42 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hollywood's Fastest Growing Religion

I have been working on The Office. Just finished the season. Been taking
it easy for the last month or so, have a few irons in the fire. All in all I
am living the dream in the 'wood.
 
Cool. My wife and I love that show and watch it regularly. What was your
job? Writing?
 


[FairfieldLife] Obama makes a compelling case for Judge Sotomayor

2009-05-30 Thread do.rflex


Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKYi6nM_Wx0



[FairfieldLife] Re: When propaganda and trying to spin your image backfires

2009-05-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
snip
 It would be interesting to see if we could get the
 same Wikipedia supreme court ruling against the TMO
 and TM cultists who tirelessly edit and remove any
 controversial or fact-finding entries regarding the
 Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation. It would
 be nice to see more factual entries for both of these,
 without interference from TM-biased revisionists,
 Neo-Vedic fundamentalists and mythologists.

snicker

If we got the same Wikipedia court ruling as that
with regard to Scientology, it wouldn't be just the
TMO folks who'd be banned. It would also be the
TM-haters like Vaj and Knapp and Skolnick (see below).

But interestingly, as I posted Friday, the people
working on the TM-related sites don't seem to require
that sort of drastic action. Contrary to Vaj's claim
above, and unlike the Scientology situation, the TM
pro and con factions have been able to forge a working
arrangement to settle disputes and forestall hit-and-
run editing by either side.

Note the third paragraph below:

Wikipedia blocks Scientology from altering entries

by Glenn Chapman

Fri May 29, 2009 6:21PM EDT 

SAN FRANCISCO (AFP) - Wikipedia has blocked the Church of
Scientology from editing entries at the communally-
crafted online encyclopedia due to an unrelenting battle 
over the group's image.

A longstanding struggle between admirers of Scientology 
and critics of the group prompted Wikipedia on Thursday 
to bar online edits from computer addresses owned or 
operated by the Church of Scientology and its 
associates.

*
An array of editors believed to have taken sides in a 
Scientology public-image war at Wikipedia have also been 
barred from tinkering with topics related to the church.
*

Each side wishes the articles within this topic to 
reflect their point of view and have resorted to 
battlefield editing tactics, senior Wikipedia editors 
said in arbitration committee findings backing the 
decision.

The worst casualties have been biographies of living 
people, where attempts have been repeatedly made to slant 
the article either towards or against the subject, 
depending on the point of view of the contributing 
editor.

A church spokeswoman downplayed the development, saying 
the Wikipedia arbitration committee is part of a routine 
process for handling conflicts at the website.

Do Scientologists care what has been posted on 
Wikipedia? Of course, said Karin Pouw. Some of it has 
been very hateful and erroneous. We hope all this will 
result in more accurate and useful articles on 
Wikipedia.




[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Puritanism: Thou shalt not suffer a critic to be thought well of

2009-05-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 I propose, given the evidence of the TMO's long
 history and this discussion group, that Maharishi
 Mahesh Yogi's and the TM movement's variant of this
 tried and still untrue piece of shit...uh, sorry...
 dogma is Thou shalt not suffer a TM critic to be
 thought well of.

Completely unlike the dogma of some TM critics here
with regard to TM supporters, right?

guffaw

 Is this not the recurring theme we see over and 
 over in the TMO? Is it not the recurring theme we
 see on this group?

So if you weren't a TM critic, no TMer would ever
accuse you of being a vicious, dishonest, shallow,
fraudulent, contemptible creep, a thoroughly crappy
human being with no redeeming social value, right?
No TMer would ever complain about your being a
particularly foul sexist pig, right? The only thing
really wrong with you, from the TMers' perspective,
is that you're a TM critic.

Right?

Wait. boo_lives, may he rest in peace, was a very
sharp critic of TM. But I can't seem to recall any
attempts to make folks think badly of him.

Gosh, now how could that possibly be, I wonder?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry Judy

2009-05-30 Thread authfriend
Barry engages in extended self-defense of his
sexism, but his agitation, as is so frequently
the case, keeps him from making any sense:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ 
  wrote:
  
  [snip]
   Lawson, Politicians define themselves ideologically
   by their words and deeds on a political spectrum 
   ranging from left to right. Left is the big Mommy 
   government, I'll share mine with you.  Right is 
   the small Daddy government, I've got mine, too 
   bad about you.
  
  What a contentious way to set the scene! 
  
  Surely not right=daddy=male=selfish=bad? 
  
  And if you're gonna think of it as Mommy v Daddy values,
  don't we probably need BOTH? We could do with the
  strengths of each without the weaknesses of each (value)?
 
 It's why most of us ignore Raunchy and Judy
 when they get like this. They're both old
 school feminists, in that their schtick is
 all about BLAME.

Of course, what Raunchy was saying in the quote
has to do with left vs. right, Democrats vs.
Republicans, not male vs. female. The Daddy vs.
Mommy party distinction isn't something she
dreamed up, as Barry would know if he had any
knowledge of U.S. politics. In fact, it's a
cliche by now; it was first used back in 1994 by
a political economist and has been embraced by
both Democrats and Republicans.

 Me, I've worked with and been friends with
 for several decades now *real* feminists.
 None of them would waste any time or energy
 whining about sexism or pointing fingers at
 the people they BLAME for it. They're too
 busy doing something with their lives, and
 proving that sexism is no barrier to anyone
 except those who allow it to be.

Of course, with regard to Hillary, neither of
us is saying sexism was why she lost. That doesn't
mean the appalling sexism with which she and her
supporters were treated during the campaign somehow
doesn't matter.

But Barry doesn't want it mentioned or discussed,
because he was part of it, and he knows how bad it
made him look.

snip
 If either of them *really* wanted to change
 things, they'd have developed by this time
 some awareness of how they are *perceived*
 when they get like this, and that it has the
 effect of turning people OFF to the issue,
 not increasing their awareness of it.

Well, it certainly turns *Barry* off. But as
usual, he assumes that whatever emotions he's
feeling must be what everyone else is feeling
as well. Unfortunately for him, the sexism of
the primary campaign made strong feminists of
many *men*--men who, unlike Barry, aren't
threatened by powerful women.

Barry thinks his distaste for feminism means
feminists should just shut up. The only
feminists who are acceptable to him are those
who obligingly remain silent about sexism, because
that lets him off the hook and leaves him free
to indulge in it whenever he feels like it.

Now he goes off into *another* ridiculous non
sequitur that is not only wildly inaccurate on
its own terms but has zero to do with what Raunchy
and I have been talking about:

snip
 I see the pragmatic elimination of sexism in
 the workplace every time I see women in confer-
 ence rooms being just one of the guys. NOT 
 meaning that they're acting like guys, just
 meaning that they're not trying to either 
 stand out or be submissive. These successful 
 women do not perceive themselves as being *any 
 different* than the guys, and as a result the 
 guys don't treat them any differently. Some-
 times I think that the women who still cling 
 to BLAME and the tenets of radical feminism 
 just don't get out much, and haven't worked 
 in offices for years. If they had, they would 
 have seen how real women have found a way to 
 deal with sexism without it being a big issue 
 for them. It's only the shut-ins who only 
 think *about* succeeding instead of doing it,
 and who seem to still be stuck in this mindset 
 of men are keeping us down.

Um, trouble is, Barry has never seen either
Raunchy or me say Men are keeping us down.

Raunchy can speak for herself, but I certainly
consider myself successful, having supported
myself by running my own business since 1976.

Sexism is *not* a big issue for me personally.
In fact, the only place I've encountered it
directed at me in decades has been on this
forum, in connection with my support for Hillary,
the bulk of it from Barry.

 They are keeping themselves down.

Nope, neither of us is down, sorry.

 By desperately clinging to wrongs done in the
 past and dwelling on them, they keep themselves
 locked firmly in the victim mindset. By spend-
 ing all their time assigning BLAME and seeking
 some kind of revenge, they piss all that time
 and all that energy away on being angry instead
 of being successful.

Er, no. I don't consider myself a victim, nor do
I seek revenge, even on Hillary's behalf.

Barry is so frantic in his self-defense 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The mosquitos of Sitges / The mosquitos of FFL

2009-05-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 Now comes the real experiment. If I consign Judy 
 and Edg to the same genus of bothersome insectae 
 and ignore their needy asses and desire to suck 
 attention, what will happen? 
 
 My bet is that they'll react just like the Sitges
 mosquitoes. They'll redouble their efforts at buzz-
 ing me, trying to get me to get up and try to chase 
 them with a flyswatter. But if I don't, what will 
 they do then? Will they *still* keep buzzing me? 
 Will they continue to act so needy even when it 
 becomes apparent to everyone on this forum *that* 
 all that's being played out is their own neediness?

Barry, you're not getting it. You've tried this
before with me any number of times, and it's
never worked.

That's because what I post about you has nothing
to do with getting your attention. As we all know,
you don't consider yourself accountable for
anything you say, so there'd be no point.

What I post has to do with putting on the record
what a scumbag you are.

The way to stop me from doing that, as I've 
explained to you many times, is to *stop being a
scumbag*.

Why don't you give it a shot?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Marek Reavis
Like you, I've only read the few chapters of Coplin's dissertation that appear 
in a google search.  I'd like to read the rest, too.

And these titles, like referring to Guru Dev as His Divinity, all seem to be 
purely honorific.  I hadn't heard about the use of maharishi as a pathfinder 
title, but I agree that it's appropriate should that be so.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote:
 
  Jay Randolph Coplin, in his dissertation on the history of the SRM, writes 
  that in an interview with the then-Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, 
  Vasudevananda (the successor to Guru Dev's successor, Shantanand, and 
  predecessor of the current Shankaracharya, Vishnudevananda, in Shantanand's 
  line) -- Vasudevananda told Coplin that it was the Jyotir Math Peeth, 
  itself, that bestowed the title Maharishi.  
  
  Whether that happened before or after Maharishi began teaching in southern 
  India wasn't written.  It may have been an after-the-fact recognition by 
  the Jyotir Math organization, or it may have actually been given shortly 
  after Guru Dev died when Shantanand first ascended the seat.
  
  Ramana Maharishi's elevation to maharishi-hood was based on one person's 
  insistence that it was the appropriate appellation for him, Ganapati Muni.  
  All this stuff is made up anyway.
 
 According to the chap who edited the book Collected
 Works of Ramana Maharshi--not sure if this is the
 same person you're talking about--the title Maharishi
 is traditionally bestowed by followers on those who
 are perceived to have inaugurated a new path. But
 it's a sort of courtesy title rather than some
 official indication of spiritual rank, as I
 understand it.
 
 If that's all true, it would seem to have been an
 entirely appropriate appellation for MMY. It was
 an indication that he was a freelancer, so to
 speak.
 
 Marek, is Coplin's dissertation available in full
 anywhere, do you know? There are a few chapters from
 it on the Web, but I'd love to read the rest of it.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Marek Reavis
Vaj, I've got no idea whether Coplin's comment is true, but it's the only thing 
I've ever read that explained the origin of the title for Maharishi.  And it's 
not inconceivable that the honorific was given, in part at least, to reward 
Maharishi for his support (political and monetary) of the Shankaracharya 
lineage of Shantanand.

The only thing I ever heard Maharishi say about it was that people started 
using it, and he didn't object.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On May 29, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
 
  Jay Randolph Coplin, in his dissertation on the history of the SRM,  
  writes that in an interview with the then-Shankaracharya of Jyotir  
  Math, Vasudevananda (the successor to Guru Dev's successor,  
  Shantanand, and predecessor of the current Shankaracharya,  
  Vishnudevananda, in Shantanand's line) -- Vasudevananda told Coplin  
  that it was the Jyotir Math Peeth, itself, that bestowed the title  
  Maharishi.
 
 
 Interesting, nothing I've read by Coplin recently includes that, nor  
 does it appear to be mentioned in any official movement history. Being  
 a hardcore TB, I consider Coplin a questionable source. It also seems  
 questionable for a low caste person in the Shankaracharya. It also  
 goes against the fact that some Shankaracharyas refused to call him  
 Maharishi, instead referring to him simply as Mahesh. I suspect this  
 probably came from one of the bought Shankaracharyas. Given that the  
 people I've met at the Shankaracharya considered MMY some sort of  
 demon who was destined for hell, I have to question the utter  
 disparity. With no independent source to verify this, I'd have to  
 consider the assertion TB tinkering or just tinkering from the  
 broken and embattled lineage of the north. Certainly the most  
 reputable remaining Math, Srinigiri, doesn't recognize him. In fact  
 the Shankaracharya of the south didn't even know who he was and  
 commented that his mind seemed like a supermarket. None of the silence  
 and bliss he loved to brag about.
 
 It would be interesting to see this manuscript. I've notice a number  
 of questionable claims from Coplin on the web. It's curious that the  
 manuscript can be found nowhere. Perhaps someone could post it to the  
 files section?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote:

 Like you, I've only read the few chapters of Coplin's
 dissertation that appear in a google search.  I'd like
 to read the rest, too.
 
 And these titles, like referring to Guru Dev as His
 Divinity, all seem to be purely honorific.  I hadn't
 heard about the use of maharishi as a pathfinder
 title, but I agree that it's appropriate should that
 be so.

The flip side may be that, as I suggested, it would
indicate he wasn't claiming either an official
spiritual rank or to be the successor in a *lineage*
per se. I'd bet such subtleties would be fairly obvious
to Indians familiar with the spiritual-title game.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The mosquitos of Sitges / The mosquitos of FFL

2009-05-30 Thread Duveyoung
Turq, um, seems to me you just promised to remain the same fucked up, 
conniving, shit-for-heart, bastard.  You reserved the right to do whatever you 
want whenever to whomever, so your new year's resolution comes off as the 
Turq-smarn we've all come to know.

If you can be silent about Judy or myself, I'll be VERY VERY impressed.  

Consider this the last time I ever post anything about you until you once again 
mention me by name or indirectly by your usual someone here who's name I shall 
not mention but you all know who I'm trying to piss off tactic.

The contest is on, and I'll win it easily.

Mention me again, and you lose, got it?

Don't bother replying to this post -- either you shut the fuck up or you don't.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 It's now summer here in Sitges, even if the rest
 of you have to wait until the Solstice for it to
 be official in your part of the world. The skies
 are blue, the sun is out, and it's starting to
 get not just comfortably warm, but occasionally
 uncomfortably hot. The tourists are starting to
 arrive in droves.
 
 Unfortunately, so are the mosquitoes. Comes with
 having a big garden and liking to keep my patio
 doors open during the day to feel the breeze. The 
 little bastards sneak in during the day and like 
 to try to torment me during the night. I'll be 
 in bed, just about to drop off into sleep, and 
 I'll hear this BZZZ as one of them
 dive-bombs my head. 
 
 I spent some time in defend myself mode, cruis-
 ing the house with a flyswatter before going to
 sleep, but it never helped. They just hid; they're
 that smart. So I wound up taking the opposite 
 approach with them. I started dropping garlic 
 tablets before bedtime and spraying myself with 
 an herbal mosquito repellent. Works like a charm;
 I haven't been bitten since. 
 
 The mosquitoes understand that they can no longer
 actually land on me and feed, and it makes them
 CRAZY. They persist in dive-bombing my head while
 I'm sleeping, trying to disturb my peace of mind.
 But they don't. I've learned to ignore them as
 the petty pissants they are.
 
 There is a similar situation here on Fairfield Life.
 
 A number of posters on this forum -- like mosquitoes
 -- seem to feed off of the other posters. Whereas
 the mosquitoes are *needy* and must suck blood to 
 live, the mosquito-posters on FFL are equally needy,
 but suck attention. They live to force their way
 into other posters' attention and get them to focus
 on them. These mosquito-posters don't seem to care
 what the nature of the attention is; be it positive
 or negative, it doesn't matter as long as they're
 getting attention. Ignore them, and they keep buzz-
 ing past your head, hoping that you'll get up and
 chase them with a verbal flyswatter again.
 
 No more. 
 
 I've started taking my metaphorical garlic pills,
 and hopefully they'll work as well on these vampires
 as they do on the mosquitoes. And yes, I *know* that
 they'll keep buzzing me, trying to get my attention.
 
 But I don't have to give it to them.
 
 I've been taking this approach with Willytex for
 some time, and it's seemed to work. He rarely even
 tries to get my attention any more. It's worked to
 some extent on ed11; he/she rarely bothers to buzz
 me any more, except to play pile on to others'
 attempts at buzzing. A good start.
 
 Now comes the real experiment. If I consign Judy 
 and Edg to the same genus of bothersome insectae 
 and ignore their needy asses and desire to suck 
 attention, what will happen? 
 
 My bet is that they'll react just like the Sitges
 mosquitoes. They'll redouble their efforts at buzz-
 ing me, trying to get me to get up and try to chase 
 them with a flyswatter. But if I don't, what will 
 they do then? Will they *still* keep buzzing me? 
 Will they continue to act so needy even when it 
 becomes apparent to everyone on this forum *that* 
 all that's being played out is their own neediness?
 
 We'll see. 
 
 A new experiment. Gulp...down the FFL garlic tablets.
 Spritz...spray on the herbal mosquito repellent. Now
 kick back and wait for the buzzing to begin. And
 ignore it if I can. 
 
 They can't bite me and feed on the attention they 
 need to survive unless I allow them to. That I know. 
 But like the mosquitoes they'll try their best to 
 make my life miserable *because* they can no longer 
 feed. My only recourse at this point seems to be to 
 do what I did with the mosquitoes and ignore their 
 needy asses.
 
 P.S. I might still swat at them from time to time,
 just for the fun of it, but on my own terms, not
 on theirs. It's weak of me I know, but I do the
 same thing with the mosquitoes. A big fat one lands
 on the wall while I'm sitting on the sofa, and lured
 into a sense of complacency since I don't get up
 and chase them at night, just sits there thinking
 it's safe. Swat. Big bloody smear on the wall, Yes,
 I have to get up and clean the wall afterwards, but 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Randy Meltzer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
Hey Vaj, 
I would like to respond to your comment in this post about the bought 
shankaracharyas.  Please correct me if I am wrong, but I am assumming that you 
mean that the Shantinand-VishnuDevand-Vasudevananda line has been somehow 
manipulated by Maharishi by money he has given them.  I can not speak for 
Shantinand or Vishnu Devanand but I do know that Vasudevanand was not bought 
by Maharishi.
Deepak Chopra did a course in India back in 1998 or so and Vasudevanad was 
invited and attended.  Deepak told me that Maharishi did not want Vasudevanand 
to attend, but he went away, saying to Maharishi, You are a good yogi, but I 
do what I want!.  Deepak also told me that Maharishi does give Vasudevanand 
some money, but it is very little.  I have no idea about the finacial 
arrangements now.
I am sure you will have your own spin on this story based on your knowledge and 
experience of the Shankaracharyas, but I thought I would just put this out 
there for you and everyone else.
 
 On May 29, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
 
  Jay Randolph Coplin, in his dissertation on the history of the SRM,  
  writes that in an interview with the then-Shankaracharya of Jyotir  
  Math, Vasudevananda (the successor to Guru Dev's successor,  
  Shantanand, and predecessor of the current Shankaracharya,  
  Vishnudevananda, in Shantanand's line) -- Vasudevananda told Coplin  
  that it was the Jyotir Math Peeth, itself, that bestowed the title  
  Maharishi.
 
 
 Interesting, nothing I've read by Coplin recently includes that, nor  
 does it appear to be mentioned in any official movement history. Being  
 a hardcore TB, I consider Coplin a questionable source. It also seems  
 questionable for a low caste person in the Shankaracharya. It also  
 goes against the fact that some Shankaracharyas refused to call him  
 Maharishi, instead referring to him simply as Mahesh. I suspect this  
 probably came from one of the bought Shankaracharyas. Given that the  
 people I've met at the Shankaracharya considered MMY some sort of  
 demon who was destined for hell, I have to question the utter  
 disparity. With no independent source to verify this, I'd have to  
 consider the assertion TB tinkering or just tinkering from the  
 broken and embattled lineage of the north. Certainly the most  
 reputable remaining Math, Srinigiri, doesn't recognize him. In fact  
 the Shankaracharya of the south didn't even know who he was and  
 commented that his mind seemed like a supermarket. None of the silence  
 and bliss he loved to brag about.
 
 It would be interesting to see this manuscript. I've notice a number  
 of questionable claims from Coplin on the web. It's curious that the  
 manuscript can be found nowhere. Perhaps someone could post it to the  
 files section?





[FairfieldLife] Crop Circle: Peaks Down, nr Swindon, Wiltshire. Reported 9th May.

2009-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008



Image Lucy Pringle http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/  Copyright 2009

  http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer09c.html

CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST CROP CIRCLE CONNECTOR DVD
http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer09c.html





Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009

  http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/

  http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/
Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you



FOR VISITING THE CROP CIRCLES.

  http://cropcircleconnector.com/forum/index.php



Images  Russell Stannard Copyright 2009




[FairfieldLife] Barbury Castle, nr Wroughton, Wiltshire. Reported 24th May.

2009-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008



Image Jack Turner Copyright 2009

  http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/
Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you



Image Olivier Morel  (WCCSG) Copyright 2009 http://www.wccsg.com/

  http://cropcircleconnector.com/forum/index.php



Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009

  http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/




[FairfieldLife] Yet another Circle made by dr.pete's friends from the Pub. Reported 25. May 2009

2009-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008





Images Jack Turner Copyright 2009

SENSE OF PEACE ON WINDMILL

There are very few occasions when you can experience a Crop Circle
without any wind around in England. The sense of peace and tranquillity
on Windmill Hill was tangible, as none of the wonderful light Barley was
flowing in waves as would be the case on a normal windy day. Just
complete stillness, with the added impact of the ancient Windmill Hill
settlement. These types of events close to such powerful ancient places,
are what makes the County of Wiltshire so unique. There is no doubt that
the design itself was creating an atmosphere all of its own.

One curious feature of its positioning within the field, was a
mysterious track that can be viewed on the aerial images and pole shots.
The track appears to be made by some type of vehicle, however the
formation's axis is directly on the track itself. The question we have
to ask is, was this track already in the field before the formation was
made? If so, then this is another example of how the Circle makers use
natural reference points to create their designs.
   See new Crop Circle Connector documentary. CROP CIRCLES: HIDDEN
MYSTERIES http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer09c.html
  http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer09c.html

CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST CROP CIRCLE CONNECTOR DVD
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  http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/
Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you





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[FairfieldLife] A film resource for age-inappropriate sex

2009-05-30 Thread TurquoiseB
Continuing in my ongoing role here as Satan, I thought
I'd provide a list of instructional films on the fine art
of older men seducing younger women. Only for those
who are interested in such things, of course...

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-man-younger-woman/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-man-younger-woman/
and
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-man-younger-woman-relationship/
  http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-man-younger-woman-relationship/
And for those dirty old women and aspiring cougars in
the FFL reading audience who don't want to miss out
on all the fun:

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-woman-younger-man/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-woman-younger-man/
and
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-woman-younger-man-relationship/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-woman-younger-man-relationship/
and
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-woman-teenage-boy/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-woman-teenage-boy/

Not to leave out our gay or bi-curious friends:

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-man-younger-man/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-man-younger-man/
and
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-man-younger-man-relationship/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-man-younger-man-relationship/
and
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-woman-younger-woman/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-woman-younger-woman/

That should keep you all busy for a while.

Signed,

Satan
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/satan/ http://www.imdb.com/keyword/satan/









[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Randy Meltzer rm...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 Hey Vaj, 
 I would like to respond to your comment in this post about the bought 
 shankaracharyas.  Please correct me if I am wrong, but I am assumming that 
 you mean that the Shantinand-VishnuDevand-Vasudevananda line has been somehow 
 manipulated by Maharishi by money he has given them.  I can not speak for 
 Shantinand or Vishnu Devanand but I do know that Vasudevanand was not 
 bought by Maharishi.
 Deepak Chopra did a course in India back in 1998 or so and Vasudevanad was 
 invited and attended.  Deepak told me that Maharishi did not want 
 Vasudevanand to attend, but he went away, saying to Maharishi, You are a 
 good yogi, but I do what I want!.  Deepak also told me that Maharishi does 
 give Vasudevanand some money, but it is very little.  I have no idea about 
 the finacial arrangements now.
 I am sure you will have your own spin on this story based on your knowledge 
 and experience of the Shankaracharyas, but I thought I would just put this 
 out there for you and everyone else.

Good idea indeed. 
But why on earth do you believe that this trickster Vaj knows anything about 
the Shankaracharya traditions beyond what he has Googeled ? He never learned TM 
and does not even understand the basic dynamics of that technique.

He is a simple Buddhist. And a Maharishi/Shankara hater on a mission. That's 
all. 



[FairfieldLife] A film resource for spiritual topics

2009-05-30 Thread TurquoiseB
Just to show you that even Satan isn't above watching
a good flick about the ways that people try to avoid my
evil clutches, here are sets of films about:

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/meditation/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/meditation/

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/enlightenment/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/enlightenment/

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/spirituality/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/spirituality/

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/religion/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/religion/

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/guru/ http://www.imdb.com/keyword/guru/

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/fake-guru/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/fake-guru/

And, just so that I can have *some* fun posting this:

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/celibacy/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/celibacy/

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/fraud/ http://www.imdb.com/keyword/fraud/

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/religious-cult/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/religious-cult/

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/fundamentalism/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/fundamentalism/

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/religious-fundamentalism/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/religious-fundamentalism/

And the obligatory plug for myself:

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/satanic-cult/
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/satanic-cult/





[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
Marek wrote:
 Vaj, I've got no idea whether Coplin's 
 comment is true, but it's the only thing 
 I've ever read that explained the origin 
 of the title for Maharishi.  And it's not 
 inconceivable that the honorific was 
 given, in part at least, to reward 
 Maharishi for his support (political 
 and monetary) of the Shankaracharya 
 lineage of Shantanand...
 
According to Jay Randolph Coplin, the name 
Mahesh indicated that the Maharishi came from 
a Hindu family that worshipped Shiva. Cynthia 
Ann Humes writes that his family was of the 
Kayastha (scribal) caste. Contrary to some 
reports, caste rules allow the honorific terms 
yogi or maharishi to be applied to those of 
the Kayastha caste... - Wikepedia

Read more:

'Gurus In America'
by Cynthia Ann Humes and Thomas A. Forsthoefel 
State University of New York Press, 2005



[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Rush Limbaugh

2009-05-30 Thread Mike Dixon
Robert, I would suggest to you that you are investing too much energy into 
hate in order to appear Holy. Hatred is a fiber in the cloth of humanity that 
makes it week and human, not devine. I was told, and I'm not absolutely 
sure, that one of the original sutras M taught was Indifference. Indifference 
allows one to reject or not embrace something unhealthy  or unwise  without the 
emotional intangelment of hating it. If someone is going to invest their Soul 
with hatred, they should be absolutely sure beyond a reasonable doubt that they 
KNOW exactly what they are hating and why and still, at best, that only makes 
them human. Just my humble opinion though.:)


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote:
 In fact the Shankaracharya of the south didn't 
 even know who he was...
 
You are incorrect, Vaj. According to Paul van 
Owen, the Shankaracharya of Sringeri knew 
exactly who the Marshy was:

He also emphatically confirmed that in his 
opinion - and in the opinion of Shringeri Matha 
- Shrî Shantânanda Sarasvatî had been the lawful 
and respected Pîthapati of Jyotirmath. In their 
view Shrî Shantânanda Sarasvatî had been a 
disciple of Shrî Shantânanda Sarasvatî, maybe 
even a rather disobedient and naughty disciple... 

Read more:

From: Willytex
Subject: Report of a visit to the Shankaracharya
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: June 8 2005 
http://tinyurl.com/2usju3

 I've notice a number of questionable claims 
 from Coplin on the web...

The questionable claims come from your own 
Shankaracharya Guru, Vaj; 

'Sri Jayendra Saraswati cannot be regarded as a 
Sankaracharya at all, because the Kanchi math
is not one of the four peethas constituted by 
Adi Sankaracharya. It is only a shakha (branch) 
of the Sringeri peetham.' 

Read more:

From: Willytex
Subject: A South Indian Bigman
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: March 17, 2006
http://tinyurl.com/nkq9fn





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Rush Limbaugh

2009-05-30 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Dixon
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:18 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Rush Limbaugh
 

Robert, I would suggest to you that you are investing too much energy into
hate in order to appear Holy. Hatred is a fiber in the cloth of humanity
that makes it week and human, not devine. I was told, and I'm not
absolutely sure, that one of the original sutras M taught was
Indifference. Indifference allows one to reject or not embrace something
unhealthy  or unwise  without the emotional intangelment of hating it. If
someone is going to invest their Soul with hatred, they should be absolutely
sure beyond a reasonable doubt that they KNOW exactly what they are hating
and why and still, at best, that only makes them human. Just my humble
opinion though.:)
 
Cultivating the attitudes of friendliness to all, compassion for the
suffering, sharing in the gladness of the happy, indifference towards the
wicked and equanimity towards virtue and vice and the vicissitudes of life
purifies the mind of its obstacles to liberation. 1:30-33. - Patanjali


[FairfieldLife] New Rules - Bill Maher: ' Greed is Good '

2009-05-30 Thread do.rflex


Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFvtQjUE2kY



[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote:
 
  Like you, I've only read the few chapters of Coplin's
  dissertation that appear in a google search.  I'd like
  to read the rest, too.
  
  And these titles, like referring to Guru Dev as His
  Divinity, all seem to be purely honorific.  I hadn't
  heard about the use of maharishi as a pathfinder
  title, but I agree that it's appropriate should that
  be so.
 
 The flip side may be that, as I suggested, it would
 indicate he wasn't claiming either an official
 spiritual rank or to be the successor in a *lineage*
 per se. I'd bet such subtleties would be fairly obvious
 to Indians familiar with the spiritual-title game.


I seem to recall that in MMY's explanation for why MIU had 
an M in it, that he referred to a rishi as someone who
was enlightened, and a maharishi as someone who could
teach others to be enlightened, and that therefore, the
name was to refer to the goal of the school (and maybe as
an hommage to all [other?] maharishis throughout the ages).


Lawson







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hollywoods Fastest Growing Religion

2009-05-30 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 For the upcoming summer season I really don't know if 
 there is anything I look forward to except True Blood
 and Californication. The HBO series Into The Storm
 looks good, mainly because it's the great Brendan
 Gleeson playing Churchill. 

Try  Showtime's Nurse Jackie with Edie Falco (The Sopranos).  I 
watched the first episode OnDemand last night.  Great show with some 
good writing.

Then the second half season of Burn Notice plays with your favorite 
Bruce Campbell.



Re: [FairfieldLife] A film resource for age-inappropriate sex

2009-05-30 Thread Sal Sunshine

On May 30, 2009, at 9:45 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Continuing in my ongoing role here as Satan, I thought
I'd provide a list of instructional films on the fine art
of older men seducing younger women. Only for those
who are interested in such things, of course...

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-man-younger-woman/
and
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-man-younger-woman-relationship/


I can't believe they left out one of the
best!  Roman Holiday


And for those dirty old women and aspiring cougars in
the FFL reading audience who don't want to miss out
on all the fun:

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-woman-younger-man/
and
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/older-woman-younger-man-relationship/


Lilies Of The Field would have gone nicely in here..

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] A film resource for spiritual topics

2009-05-30 Thread Sal Sunshine

On May 30, 2009, at 10:03 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/fake-guru/

They missed the boat again!  Leap Of Faith
was one of the best movies about phony
gurus/preachers ever made...and one
of the funniest, too.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Hollywood's Fastest Growing Religion

2009-05-30 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Stu
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 7:42 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hollywood's Fastest Growing Religion
 
  I have been working on The Office. Just finished the season. 
  Been taking it easy for the last month or so, have a few irons
  in the fire. All in all I am living the dream in the 'wood.
  
 Cool. My wife and I love that show and watch it regularly. What
 was your job? Writing?

Editing.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0060111/



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Vaj

On May 30, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Marek Reavis wrote:

 The only thing I ever heard Maharishi say about it was that people  
 started using it, and he didn't object.


Exactly. So someone must be lying.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Rush Limbaugh

2009-05-30 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Mike Dixon
 Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:18 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Rush Limbaugh
  
 
 Robert, I would suggest to you that you are investing too much energy into
 hate in order to appear Holy. Hatred is a fiber in the cloth of humanity
 that makes it week and human, not devine. I was told, and I'm not
 absolutely sure, that one of the original sutras M taught was
 Indifference. Indifference allows one to reject or not embrace something
 unhealthy  or unwise  without the emotional intangelment of hating it. If
 someone is going to invest their Soul with hatred, they should be absolutely
 sure beyond a reasonable doubt that they KNOW exactly what they are hating
 and why and still, at best, that only makes them human. Just my humble
 opinion though.:)
  
 Cultivating the attitudes of friendliness to all, compassion for the
 suffering, sharing in the gladness of the happy, indifference towards the
 wicked and equanimity towards virtue and vice and the vicissitudes of life
 purifies the mind of its obstacles to liberation. 1:30-33. - Patanjali

Thanks for the Information...I intuitively felt that...
I'm still working out Karma, on this issue, of political manipulation, from a 
past time...
But, it's good to know, that this reaction only spikes more karma, on the same 
issue...
I will contemplate the values of indifference in this case...

One thing about indifference during the 'Nazi Era',though,
It contributed to the catastrophe...
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: A film resource for spiritual topics

2009-05-30 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 Just to show you that even Satan isn't above watching
 a good flick about the ways that people try to avoid my
 evil clutches, here are sets of films about:
 (snip)
Satan, Lucifer and Beelzebub...these are lower vibrations of unconsciousness...
Satan is associated with the 'Temptations of the World'
Lucifer is associated with 'Dictatorship and Murder'
Beelzebub is associated with 'Drunkenness and Suicide'

These form the vibrations, in the earth sphere, that have caused the havoc and 
disharmony, since the beginning

There are 'pockets' of this energy created when people are confused, scared, 
drunk, starving and all the things that lead people down the path away from the 
Divine...

Simply put, these lower vibrations, are being wiped from the planet now, as the 
vibration of light increases, and there is no place for these feeling to 
reside
R.G.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Vaj


On May 30, 2009, at 12:01 PM, sparaig wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@  
wrote:


Like you, I've only read the few chapters of Coplin's
dissertation that appear in a google search.  I'd like
to read the rest, too.

And these titles, like referring to Guru Dev as His
Divinity, all seem to be purely honorific.  I hadn't
heard about the use of maharishi as a pathfinder
title, but I agree that it's appropriate should that
be so.


The flip side may be that, as I suggested, it would
indicate he wasn't claiming either an official
spiritual rank or to be the successor in a *lineage*
per se. I'd bet such subtleties would be fairly obvious
to Indians familiar with the spiritual-title game.



I seem to recall that in MMY's explanation for why MIU had
an M in it, that he referred to a rishi as someone who
was enlightened, and a maharishi as someone who could
teach others to be enlightened, and that therefore, the
name was to refer to the goal of the school (and maybe as
an hommage to all [other?] maharishis throughout the ages).



I think you're missing the point. Is it a self-serving title, coming  
from the ego, or one given by the guru or some institution?  
Unfortunately, without any official announcement in the historical  
record we're forced to assume the former. And certainly for someone  
without any spiritual accomplishment prior, it seems even more  
suspect, esp. say when compared to a spiritual giant like Ramana  
Maharishi who had a long history of spiritual accomplishment prior.  
Since we know the other aliases, Yogi and His Holiness were self- 
assumed, it's further support for a self-aggrandizing person taking  
lofty titles. A more honest one might read Mahesh Varma, meditation  
teacher, philosopher, businessman and former secretary of Swami  
Brahamananda Saraswati.


It also raises the question of all the other titles like The world's  
foremost scientist in the field of consciousness. Are appellations  
like these from Mahesh or from his disciples? I would assume his  
disciples, but ones does start to wonder. At a certain point, a person  
would start sounding like any number of whacky dictators the world has  
seen.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On May 30, 2009, at 12:01 PM, sparaig wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@  
  wrote:
 
  Like you, I've only read the few chapters of Coplin's
  dissertation that appear in a google search.  I'd like
  to read the rest, too.
 
  And these titles, like referring to Guru Dev as His
  Divinity, all seem to be purely honorific.  I hadn't
  heard about the use of maharishi as a pathfinder
  title, but I agree that it's appropriate should that
  be so.
 
  The flip side may be that, as I suggested, it would
  indicate he wasn't claiming either an official
  spiritual rank or to be the successor in a *lineage*
  per se. I'd bet such subtleties would be fairly obvious
  to Indians familiar with the spiritual-title game.
 
 
  I seem to recall that in MMY's explanation for why MIU had
  an M in it, that he referred to a rishi as someone who
  was enlightened, and a maharishi as someone who could
  teach others to be enlightened, and that therefore, the
  name was to refer to the goal of the school (and maybe as
  an hommage to all [other?] maharishis throughout the ages).
 
 
 I think you're missing the point. Is it a self-serving title, coming  
 from the ego, or one given by the guru or some institution?  
 Unfortunately, without any official announcement in the historical  
 record we're forced to assume the former. And certainly for someone  
 without any spiritual accomplishment prior, it seems even more  
 suspect, esp. say when compared to a spiritual giant like Ramana  
 Maharishi who had a long history of spiritual accomplishment prior.  
 Since we know the other aliases, Yogi and His Holiness were self- 
 assumed, it's further support for a self-aggrandizing person taking  
 lofty titles. A more honest one might read Mahesh Varma, meditation  
 teacher, philosopher, businessman and former secretary of Swami  
 Brahamananda Saraswati.
 
 It also raises the question of all the other titles like The world's  
 foremost scientist in the field of consciousness. Are appellations  
 like these from Mahesh or from his disciples? I would assume his  
 disciples, but ones does start to wonder. At a certain point, a person  
 would start sounding like any number of whacky dictators the world has  
 seen.

This sounds like the conversation Pontious Pilot had with Jesus...
So, who gave you this title: 'King of the Jews'...
'Could you prove to me that you are the 'King'...
Obviously not!
So, we have to crucify you now, sorry!

Maharishi is known as Maharishi, around the globe...
However you think he got the name, that is what he is known by...
The name means what he was, a great sage.
There is nothing dubious about the name.
He is Maharishi and Maharishi is him.

Why do you put so much faith in institutions...
Just because an institution puts a title on someone, what does it mean?
Hitler had the title of Der Fuhrer.
Bush had the title of President...
See the point...
What do titles really mean, anyway...
Aren't they all just name of things...inventions...

Who cares about titles anyway...
I certainly don't.
It's what's behind the title that counts...
R.g.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
snip
 I think you're missing the point. Is it a self-serving
 title, coming from the ego, or one given by the guru or
 some institution? Unfortunately, without any official
 announcement in the historical record we're forced to 
 assume the former.

Actually, no, we're not forced to assume any such
thing. What we're forced to assume is that we don't
know for sure. If we're honest, we're forced to assume
that one possibility is that Jyotir Math started
referring to him as Maharishi, as per Coplin's account;
or that his followers did, and it caught on; or that
Jyotir Math decided to go along with what his followers
were calling him.

It doesn't appear that Maharishi is a title that is
ever conferred by the guru or an institution, so one
of the two possibilities Vaj is willing to acknowledge
is invalid anyway. And that there are no official
records of a title that wouldn't have been officially
bestowed certainly doesn't constitute a basis for the
assumption that it must have been ego.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Robert
 (snip)
 It also raises the question of all the other titles like The world's  
 foremost scientist in the field of consciousness.  
 (snip)
These titles have more to do with Bevan and John...they are so into titles it's 
not even funny...
Bevan especially likes titles...
For some reason, Beaver, I mean Bevan put Maharishi under a hypnotic spell, 
some time after Maharishi's heart attack...
He made Maharishi completely dependent on him for everything, in Maharishi 
weakened state...
I am not sure, how or why this happened, except to say, that there's always a 
bug in the system somewhere...
I think in Australia they call it 'Gremlins!'...
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama makes a compelling case for Judge Sotomayor

2009-05-30 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 
 
 Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKYi6nM_Wx0

  What are the odds her income tax is current?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
babajii wrote:
 ...they are so into titles it's not even funny...
 
You mean titles like 'babajii'?

LOL!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... 
wrote:

 babajii wrote:
  ...they are so into titles it's not even funny...
  
 You mean titles like 'babajii'?
 
 LOL!

Yes, exactly...
I chose the name, not that I made it up...I heard it before...
But, after a while, if I really start believing I'm Babajii, then others around 
me, will start calling me Babajii, and then, if I start performing some 
miracles, the word will get out, that I am 'The Babajii'...
See how it works..

It's all in the mind!

Last time around, I think I chose the name: Hanussen.
Look it up!
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
  It also raises the question of all the 
  other titles like The world's foremost 
  scientist in the field of consciousness. 
  Are appellations like these from Mahesh 
  or from his disciples? I would assume his  
  disciples, but ones does start to wonder. 
  At a certain point, a person would start 
  sounding like any number of whacky 
  dictators the world has seen.
 
Robert wrote:
 This sounds like the conversation Pontious 
 Pilot had with Jesus...

It sure does, Robert. Are you related to that
other guy, 'Robert the Bruce'? Now that's a 
real title, but what does it mean? I once had
a long dialog with a TMer scientist named 
'Steve Ralph' - he had two first names, and 
one of them was his last name. Go figure.

 So, who gave you this title: 'King of the 
 Jews'...
 'Could you prove to me that you are the 
 'King'...Obviously not!
 So, we have to crucify you now, sorry!
 
 Maharishi is known as Maharishi, around 
 the globe...However you think he got the 
 name, that is what he is known by...
 The name means what he was, a great sage.
 There is nothing dubious about the name.
 He is Maharishi and Maharishi is him.
 
 Why do you put so much faith in institutions...
 Just because an institution puts a title on 
 someone, what does it mean?
 Hitler had the title of Der Fuhrer.
 Bush had the title of President...
 See the point...
 What do titles really mean, anyway...
 Aren't they all just name of things...
 inventions...
 
 Who cares about titles anyway...
 I certainly don't.
 It's what's behind the title that counts...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Marek Reavis
Not necessarily, but that's not the point.  However he got the honorific, 
Maharishi certainly felt it was appropriate and never demurred.  Many agreed 
with him and lots didn't.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On May 30, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Marek Reavis wrote:
 
  The only thing I ever heard Maharishi say about it was that people  
  started using it, and he didn't object.
 
 
 Exactly. So someone must be lying.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Vaj


On May 30, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:

Not necessarily, but that's not the point.  However he got the  
honorific, Maharishi certainly felt it was appropriate and never  
demurred.  Many agreed with him and lots didn't.


Sorry to be a stickler but you're assuming it's honorific without any  
evidence to support that. All we truly know is that it's an alias  
(esp. since it's not the actual name on his passport). What would be  
helpful is to see a transcript of the alleged Cochlin interview or to  
hear an MP3 of a recording!





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hollywoods Fastest Growing Religion

2009-05-30 Thread Bhairitu
Stu wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
   
 Stu wrote:
 
 I have been working on The Office.  Just finished the season.  Been 
 taking it easy for the last month or so, have a few irons in the fire.  All 
 in all I am living the dream in the 'wood.
   
 Good to hear that.  I've been hearing about cutbacks in productions due 
 to the economy.  Must be hitting Hollywood hard.  I'm hoping that leaner 
 budgets may put more of an emphasis on writing to carry a show.  Lower 
 budget projects like Burn Notice are very entertaining.   I also liked 
 the pilot for Mental which is lean more in a BBC way.

 
 I wish I could be so positive about the budget cuts.  Generally it means they 
 are less likely to hire writers to come up with fresh ideas, instead the 
 suits look to remake old shows or hope star power will carry a series.  They 
 cut back on writing staffs.  The corporate world hates taking chances in the 
 best of times.  Now innovation and surprise are dead.
   

Here's the NBC suit on the issue:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10251116-56.html

It will also be interesting to see what happens two weeks from today 
when the analog TV channels go completely off the air (in some areas 
they're already off).  It will be interesting to see how much longer 
shows are shot still in 4:3 safe frame appease the black bar haters 
who will want to zoom in on their analog converter boxes.  Of course 
there is a new version of pan-and-scan to hate and that is the cropping 
of 2:35:1 aspect films to 1:77:1 to fill 16:9 HD screens.

 They squeeze production to shoot more shows in less days, so it all looks 
 like crap.  They tighten post schedules so we don't have time to finesse the 
 shows.  The stories suffer.
   

But then as I mentioned before BBC productions seem to work well on 
restricted budgets. 

I am enjoying some of the productions like Breaking Bad which is shot 
in Albuquerque.  Of course that is an outstandingly produced series with 
great writing, actors, directing and overall excellent production.  Of 
course New Mexico offered tax breaks to lure productions there as did 
Louisiana, Florida (Burn Notice) and even Massachusetts (Fringe) 
though it has had to cut back on those breaks or tax credits making 
Fringe get shifted to Canada.

 Reality is cheaper so we will see more of it.  So far I have not seen any 
 good come of this new economy.

And I never watch reality which is often not because it is somewhat 
scripted too.  But then if everyone were like me advertising as a 
business model to sponsor shows would have failed a lot time ago.  Love 
that 30 second skip button (I always DVR never watch live).  They take 
that away and I won't watch period.  It will be just Blu-Rays and DVDs 
only.  :-)



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A film resource for spiritual topics

2009-05-30 Thread Bhairitu
Robert wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
   
 Just to show you that even Satan isn't above watching
 a good flick about the ways that people try to avoid my
 evil clutches, here are sets of films about:
 
  (snip)
 Satan, Lucifer and Beelzebub...these are lower vibrations of 
 unconsciousness...
 Satan is associated with the 'Temptations of the World'
 Lucifer is associated with 'Dictatorship and Murder'
 Beelzebub is associated with 'Drunkenness and Suicide'

 These form the vibrations, in the earth sphere, that have caused the havoc 
 and disharmony, since the beginning

 There are 'pockets' of this energy created when people are confused, scared, 
 drunk, starving and all the things that lead people down the path away from 
 the Divine...

 Simply put, these lower vibrations, are being wiped from the planet now, as 
 the vibration of light increases, and there is no place for these feeling to 
 reside
 R.G.

Aren't they really just forms of the ego?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hollywoods Fastest Growing Religion

2009-05-30 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 Stu wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

  Stu wrote:
  
  I have been working on The Office.  Just finished the season.  Been 
  taking it easy for the last month or so, have a few irons in the fire.  
  All in all I am living the dream in the 'wood.

  Good to hear that.  I've been hearing about cutbacks in productions due 
  to the economy.  Must be hitting Hollywood hard.  I'm hoping that leaner 
  budgets may put more of an emphasis on writing to carry a show.  Lower 
  budget projects like Burn Notice are very entertaining.   I also liked 
  the pilot for Mental which is lean more in a BBC way.
 
  
  I wish I could be so positive about the budget cuts.  Generally it means 
  they are less likely to hire writers to come up with fresh ideas, instead 
  the suits look to remake old shows or hope star power will carry a series.  
  They cut back on writing staffs.  The corporate world hates taking chances 
  in the best of times.  Now innovation and surprise are dead.

 
 Here's the NBC suit on the issue:
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10251116-56.html
 
 It will also be interesting to see what happens two weeks from today 
 when the analog TV channels go completely off the air (in some areas 
 they're already off).  It will be interesting to see how much longer 
 shows are shot still in 4:3 safe frame appease the black bar haters 
 who will want to zoom in on their analog converter boxes.  Of course 
 there is a new version of pan-and-scan to hate and that is the cropping 
 of 2:35:1 aspect films to 1:77:1 to fill 16:9 HD screens.
 
  They squeeze production to shoot more shows in less days, so it all looks 
  like crap.  They tighten post schedules so we don't have time to finesse 
  the shows.  The stories suffer.

 
 But then as I mentioned before BBC productions seem to work well on 
 restricted budgets. 
 
 I am enjoying some of the productions like Breaking Bad which is shot 
 in Albuquerque.  Of course that is an outstandingly produced series with 
 great writing, actors, directing and overall excellent production.  Of 
 course New Mexico offered tax breaks to lure productions there as did 
 Louisiana, Florida (Burn Notice) and even Massachusetts (Fringe) 
 though it has had to cut back on those breaks or tax credits making 
 Fringe get shifted to Canada.
 
  Reality is cheaper so we will see more of it.  So far I have not seen any 
  good come of this new economy.
 
 And I never watch reality which is often not because it is somewhat 
 scripted too.  But then if everyone were like me advertising as a 
 business model to sponsor shows would have failed a lot time ago.  Love 
 that 30 second skip button (I always DVR never watch live).  They take 
 that away and I won't watch period.  It will be just Blu-Rays and DVDs 
 only.  :-)


Same here - never see any adverts any more! That business model's
certainly going to have to change.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On May 30, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Marek Reavis wrote:
 
  The only thing I ever heard Maharishi say about it was that people  
  started using it, and he didn't object.
 
 
 Exactly. So someone must be lying.



Has it ever occurred to you that you have substituted one Fundamentalist
World View for another?



L



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Vaj


On May 30, 2009, at 5:31 PM, sparaig wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:



On May 30, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Marek Reavis wrote:


The only thing I ever heard Maharishi say about it was that people
started using it, and he didn't object.



Exactly. So someone must be lying.




Has it ever occurred to you that you have substituted one  
Fundamentalist

World View for another?



Has it occurred to you I'm laughing or smiling my ass off as I'm  
writing!


I actually find the psychological and psycho-sexual ramifications of  
spiritual leaders who take grandiose titles themselves, have numerous  
product lines named after them, absurd titles lauded on them by their  
students (in the absence of any major outside recognition or objective  
validity) and huge phallic buildings built/planned in 'their  
honor' (yet control freashishly designed by them) to be really just SO  
interesting in a weird Kim Jong-Il sorta way. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Rush Limbaugh

2009-05-30 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:

 Robert, I would suggest to you that you are investing too much energy into 
 hate in order to appear Holy. Hatred is a fiber in the cloth of humanity 
 that makes it week and human, not devine. I was told, and I'm not 
 absolutely sure, that one of the original sutras M taught was Indifference. 
 Indifference allows one to reject or not embrace something unhealthy  or 
 unwise  without the emotional intangelment of hating it. If someone is going 
 to invest their Soul with hatred, they should be absolutely sure beyond a 
 reasonable doubt that they KNOW exactly what they are hating and why and 
 still, at best, that only makes them human. Just my humble opinion though.:)

I do remember seeing a scene in a war movie, one time, 
Where the soldiers were overrunning a village, in Viet Nam...
and, They were wiping out every life form they ran by...
And, this guy was sitting there, in meditation, and it was as if he were 
invisible, 
Because they did not see him, and he just continued on meditating as though 
nothing was going on around him!
It even looked as if his pulse rate was lowered, as well as his breath rate...
He was maintaining his centered, peaceful composure, in the midst of chaos, war 
and death...
Thanks for reminding me, of that extraordinary...
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread authfriend
I just uploaded the Coplin dissertation material to
the Files section. It's under Miscellaneous Writings.

I can't figure out how to make the system send an
announcement to the group, so perhaps someone could
tell Vaj, as he claims not to read my posts.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
 
 On May 29, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
 
  Jay Randolph Coplin, in his dissertation on the
  history of the SRM, writes that in an interview
  with the then-Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math,
  Vasudevananda (the successor to Guru Dev's
  successor, Shantanand, and predecessor of the
  current Shankaracharya, Vishnudevananda, in
  Shantanand's line) -- Vasudevananda told Coplin  
  that it was the Jyotir Math Peeth, itself, that
  bestowed the title Maharishi.
 
 Interesting, nothing I've read by Coplin recently
 includes that

And your recent reading of Coplin was what, exactly?

Because it seems he's never actually published anything,
you see.

Obviously you never bothered to read the chapters from
his dissertation on the Web.

Note 49, chapter 3:

This is given by the titles Maharishi Bala 
Brahmachari Mahesh Yogi Maharaj by which he was 
addressed at the Spiritual Development Conference in 
Cochin (1955). When asked about the sources of 
Maharishi's status designations, the Shankaracharya 
of Jyotir Math replied, From his sadhana(discipline 
for spiritual growth). Given by the society. He 
followed the teachings, sadhana, devoted completely 
to Guru Dev's teachings. He became equal in sorrow 
and pain and happiness. Thus the people realized him, 
that he has achieved the qualities of a Maharishi. It 
is an honor by the pitha(matha), and by the society. 
(Interview of June 11, 1983, at Joshimath)

, nor  
 does it appear to be mentioned in any official movement
 history. Being a hardcore TB, I consider Coplin a
 questionable source.

Naturally!

 It also seems  
 questionable for a low caste person in the Shankaracharya.

According to the New York Times, the titles Maharishi
and Yogi are indeed given to persons of Maharishi's
caste.

snip 
 It would be interesting to see this manuscript.
 I've notice a number of questionable claims from
 Coplin on the web.

Really? What claims were these, Vaj, that you notice
on the Web?

 It's curious that the manuscript can be found nowhere.

Ah, but it can. Just, apparently, not by you.

 Perhaps someone could post it to the files section?

It's under Miscellaneous Writings.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Marek Reavis
You're right, I am assuming that someone other than Maharishi himself actually 
called him that first, and not that he introduced himself as a maharishi.  That 
being said, I'm not arguing that it was some authority or math that first 
honored him with that.  Like Judy pointed out, it's totally common for Indian 
devotees to extol assumed enlightened saints and gurus with over the top 
honorifics, and the idea that one of Maharishi's early followers gave him that 
designation out of their own reverence and pride.

But you may be correct, too, and that Maharishi assumed that appelation 
entirely on his own initiative.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On May 30, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
 
  Not necessarily, but that's not the point.  However he got the  
  honorific, Maharishi certainly felt it was appropriate and never  
  demurred.  Many agreed with him and lots didn't.
 
 Sorry to be a stickler but you're assuming it's honorific without any  
 evidence to support that. All we truly know is that it's an alias  
 (esp. since it's not the actual name on his passport). What would be  
 helpful is to see a transcript of the alleged Cochlin interview or to  
 hear an MP3 of a recording!





[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
 
 On May 30, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
 
  Not necessarily, but that's not the point.  However
  he got the honorific, Maharishi certainly felt it
  was appropriate and never demurred.  Many agreed
  with him and lots didn't.
 
 Sorry to be a stickler but you're assuming it's honorific
 without any evidence to support that.

An honorific as opposed to *what*? What else could
it be?

 All we truly know is that it's an alias 

It's obviously not something MMY made up (Ramana
Maharshi, Maharishi Patanjali, etc.).
 
 (esp. since it's not the actual name on his passport).
 What would be helpful is to see a transcript of the
 alleged Cochlin interview or to hear an MP3 of a
 recording!

Unbelievable. (And it's Coplin, not Cochlin. I guess
you just forgot his name after having read all that
recent Coplin material on the Web.)

The note I posted from his dissertation contains a
transcript of Vasudevanda's response to Coplin's
question about how MMY got the title Maharishi.




[FairfieldLife] Coplin dissertation material

2009-05-30 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 I just uploaded the Coplin dissertation material to
 the Files section. It's under Miscellaneous Writings.
 
 I can't figure out how to make the system send an
 announcement to the group, so perhaps someone could
 tell Vaj, as he claims not to read my posts.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Miscellaneous%20Writings/Coplin%20dissertation/

http://tinyurl.com/lgayzz



[FairfieldLife] Re: Coplin dissertation material

2009-05-30 Thread authfriend
Thanks, Alex!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  I just uploaded the Coplin dissertation material to
  the Files section. It's under Miscellaneous Writings.
  
  I can't figure out how to make the system send an
  announcement to the group, so perhaps someone could
  tell Vaj, as he claims not to read my posts.
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Miscellaneous%20Writings/Coplin%20dissertation/
 
 http://tinyurl.com/lgayzz





[FairfieldLife] Palast des Okkulten (was Marshy: All Hat, No cattle)

2009-05-30 Thread billy jim
Herr Babaji said:
Last time around, I think I chose the name: Hanussen.
Look it up!  

I think is a weak way to propose that something is actual.
What could be your basis other than sheer wishfulness?
Although you call yourself babaji you don't stage yourself
like a 20th Century Magician. 

So the Palast des Okkulten is in your back bedroom?



  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Rush Limbaugh

2009-05-30 Thread Mike Dixon
Robert, I think we all get carried away to some degree or another when it comes 
to politics.  Political rhetoric is very divisive and cutting whether it is 
from the left or right and we as meditators need to try to rise above that and 
be able to disagree politically without unsheathing knives and daggers. Right 
now, most of the people on FFL should be elated at their new found  government 
power. Enjoy it while you can. The resistance is organizing and will take it 
back. Jai Guru Dev.

--- On Sat, 5/30/09, Robert babajii...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Robert babajii...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Rush Limbaugh
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 10:07 PM








--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:

 Robert, I would suggest to you that you are investing too much energy into 
 hate in order to appear Holy. Hatred is a fiber in the cloth of humanity 
 that makes it week and human, not devine. I was told, and I'm not 
 absolutely sure, that one of the original sutras M taught was Indifference 
 . Indifference allows one to reject or not embrace something unhealthy  or 
 unwise  without the emotional intangelment of hating it. If someone is going 
 to invest their Soul with hatred, they should be absolutely sure beyond a 
 reasonable doubt that they KNOW exactly what they are hating and why and 
 still, at best, that only makes them human. Just my humble opinion though.:)

I do remember seeing a scene in a war movie, one time, 
Where the soldiers were overrunning a village, in Viet Nam...
and, They were wiping out every life form they ran by...
And, this guy was sitting there, in meditation, and it was as if he were 
invisible, 
Because they did not see him, and he just continued on meditating as though 
nothing was going on around him!
It even looked as if his pulse rate was lowered, as well as his breath rate
He was maintaining his centered, peaceful composure, in the midst of chaos, war 
and death...
Thanks for reminding me, of that extraordinary. ..
R.G.

















  

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Rush Limbaugh

2009-05-30 Thread Robert
-My Dear Sir:
  Mr. Dixon,
...I am so glad you took the time to advise me on these:
...Most serious of  matters...
As my karmic political instincts, sometimes get me all too 'Over-shadowed...
As The Maharishi would say
R.G.




-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:

 Robert, I think we all get carried away to some degree or another when it 
 comes to politics.  Political rhetoric is very divisive and cutting whether 
 it is from the left or right and we as meditators need to try to rise above 
 that and be able to disagree politically without unsheathing knives and 
 daggers. Right now, most of the people on FFL should be elated at their new 
 found  government power. Enjoy it while you can. The resistance is organizing 
 and will take it back. Jai Guru Dev.
 
 --- On Sat, 5/30/09, Robert babajii...@... wrote:
 
 
 From: Robert babajii...@...
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Rush Limbaugh
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 10:07 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
 
  Robert, I would suggest to you that you are investing too much energy into 
  hate in order to appear Holy. Hatred is a fiber in the cloth of humanity 
  that makes it week and human, not devine. I was told, and I'm not 
  absolutely sure, that one of the original sutras M taught was 
  Indifference . Indifference allows one to reject or not embrace something 
  unhealthy  or unwise  without the emotional intangelment of hating it. If 
  someone is going to invest their Soul with hatred, they should be 
  absolutely sure beyond a reasonable doubt that they KNOW exactly what they 
  are hating and why and still, at best, that only makes them human. Just my 
  humble opinion though.:)
 
 I do remember seeing a scene in a war movie, one time, 
 Where the soldiers were overrunning a village, in Viet Nam...
 and, They were wiping out every life form they ran by...
 And, this guy was sitting there, in meditation, and it was as if he were 
 invisible, 
 Because they did not see him, and he just continued on meditating as though 
 nothing was going on around him!
 It even looked as if his pulse rate was lowered, as well as his breath 
 rate
 He was maintaining his centered, peaceful composure, in the midst of chaos, 
 war and death...
 Thanks for reminding me, of that extraordinary. ..
 R.G.





[FairfieldLife] Re: What were the lawsuits against MMY?

2009-05-30 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:

 My own pet theory is that MMY knew the feds were a-comin' for him, so
 he made himself sick unto death using his yogic control over his body,
 and had himself flown to ENgland to get away from the Indian legal system.
 
 Whereupon he had a miraculous full recovery
 
 
 
 Hey, perfectly logical.
 
 
 L


Good one, Lawson. But I think I would pass on giving myself  pancreatitis.  
Hurts too damn bad.




[FairfieldLife] 'Breaking News: Mercury Just Went Direct!'

2009-05-30 Thread Robert

Hi Everyone,

At 6:22pm PDST on May 30th, Mercury turns back to its direct motion at 22 
degrees of Taurus. The few days before and after this date can often feel like 
we are intensely focused on certain issues or thoughts that have us captivated. 
What's happening is that Mercury is barely moving or completely stationary, 
which is akin to the needle of a turntable being stuck in groove. There can be 
a tendency to react strongly to whatever we are thinking, and approach these 
with an all-or-nothing attitude. Also, our thoughts may be intense because they 
are actually revealing an aspect of our unconscious, inner world struggling to 
see the light of day. Usually, it is best to try to work out our own thoughts 
by ourselves before expressing them as they could come out quite strongly. And 
yet, it is simultaneously important to recognize that whatever is coming up 
really could be quite important. It's just a matter of separating 'what' you 
are dealing with from the 'way'
 you decide to deal with it. If necessary allow a process to take place within 
yourself before expressing it outwardly, unless, of course, it simply cannot be 
done. The truth is that life often doesn't allow us to take time out and we 
have to do the best we can to deal with whatever is coming out into the open. 
Things should smooth out and feel like we can move forward by early Monday or 
Tuesday.

Jupiter Aligns with Neptune (and Chiron too)

This major transit has officially begun. Jupiter conjuncted Neptune for the 
first time on May 27th (Wednesday) at 1:12pm PDST, and will do so two more 
times before Jupiter moves on into Pisces. This transit will last until early 
January and is already having a very significant effect on how we are 
perceiving the world. There are some wonderful characteristics of this transit 
but first let's look at the more negative ones.

Neptune can create illusion, fog, uncertainty, and idealism and alongside 
Jupiter's optimism we can feel that things are much better than they really 
are. Perception is important, but in a case like this, it can also lead to a 
severe letting down or bubble bursting later. Let's give a specific example. 
Right now, the price of gas is going up and people are wondering how this can 
be. The common view is that it's the coming of summer. But take a look at this 
article.

http://www.realclearmarkets.com/news/ap/finance_business/2009/May/29/oil__gas_prices_defy_recession__crude_hits__66.html

The view presented in this article is that the rise in prices is not due to 
increasing demand, but to the BELIEF that demand will increase. This is because 
it has become common to think that the recession will be over by the end of the 
year. So production is being ramped up and the prices rise as we get ready for 
things to return to normal. Things are going to return to normal?? Huh!!

To astrologers this is to be expected and has nothing to do with what is 
actually going on but with the Jupiter/Neptune lens through which the society 
is looking. If we examine the actual data, we see that unemployment is rising, 
large business credit card companies are going bankrupt, more layoffs are 
expected in many industries and our car companies are declaring bankruptcy with 
no one knowing what the future landscape for this area of our economy will look 
like. The list of unresolved problems is huge. So, why are we so optimistic? 
Well, part of it is that we want to be. We are tired of feeling negative, so we 
decide to feel better, even if there's no evidence for it. But the 
'environment' astrologically encourages us to do just this. Have faith and 
it'll all be fine. Even blind faith is OK, at least for now.

The real problem with this, as I see it, is that the fundamental issues that 
got us into this mess have not been addressed, both economically and in the 
larger societal context. The needed reforms are not being made and will not be 
made as long as people believe that things will turn around without these  
changes. The transits that follow this Jupiter alignment with Neptune are far 
more serious than any we've seen so far, so unless the proper steps are taken 
to deal with the causes of the problems that got us here, we are still open to 
a major falling apart of our economic and governmental systems. Just look at 
what's happening in California and you'll see how serious things are becoming. 
No one can know what would happen if things got even worse.

On a personal level however, things are very different. This transit is a 
beautiful one for the development of compassion and sympathetic understanding. 
We may find that we are engaged in the emergence of a new faith and 
understanding towards Life itself and our connection to something higher, 
whatever terminology we use for that. This is a time for healing of old wounds 
(Chiron) by forgiveness and the adoption of a greater understanding of others 
that is impersonal and universal. There is a chance that our health 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation: Mechanics of the technique

2009-05-30 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/kl8q8y


Good footage.
He certainly was persistant, one poionted. Jai Guru Dev. Fun to see those 
earlier times with him again.

Now juxtapose this 1967 video agin that recent video of Girish '-ji'.

from:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/220138







[FairfieldLife] Upgrade your FFL Meditator Status

2009-05-30 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Move over to
`yes'=meditator


Anybody writing here would like their non-meditation status reviewed or 
upgraded for the FFL posting list?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY

2009-05-30 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... 
wrote:

 babajii wrote:
  ...they are so into titles it's not even funny...
  
 You mean titles like 'babajii'?
 
 LOL!

Yeah, Babaji's a good one...heck anyone can claim he's Babaji...

One I really like though,  is the Marque of De Sade!

R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Upgrade your FFL Meditator Status

2009-05-30 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 Move over to
 `yes'=meditator
 
 
 Anybody writing here would like their non-meditation status reviewed or 
 upgraded for the FFL posting list?
 
 Posters: 98
 
 
  `Yes' = meditators
(snip)

Do I need to reboot? Is this TM 2.0?
Which TM is it?

R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Palast des Okkulten (was Marshy: All Hat, No cattle)

2009-05-30 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim emptyb...@... wrote:

 Herr Babaji said:
 Last time around, I think I chose the name: Hanussen.
 Look it up!  
 
 I think is a weak way to propose that something is actual.
 What could be your basis other than sheer wishfulness?
 Although you call yourself babaji you don't stage yourself
 like a 20th Century Magician. 
 
 So the Palast des Okkulten is in your back bedroom?

Hey Billy,
What the heck is a Palast des Okkulten?
I have no idea what kind of person you think I am...
We have never met, as far as I can remember...
I had a horrible death last time around, so I had to heal up a lot.
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Palast des Okkulten (was Marshy: All Hat, No cattle)

2009-05-30 Thread Robert
 (snip)
  Although you call yourself babaji you don't stage yourself
  like a 20th Century Magician. 
 (snip)
Hey Billy,
Last time I looked, it is the 21st. Century...
Did you miss the last 100 years, Mr. Empty? or What?
R.g.



[FairfieldLife] 'The Maharishi of Carson Nebraska'

2009-05-30 Thread Robert

 
The Magnificent Carnac Great 20th Century Magician


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Breaking News: Mercury Just Went Direct!'

2009-05-30 Thread off_world_beings

'Breaking News: Mercury Just Went Direct! '

I'm feelin' it bigtime.  Mercury's my homeboy !

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: Upgrade your FFL Meditator Status

2009-05-30 Thread off_world_beings

Ha ha, this list is funny !  Only the anti-TM crowd feel the need to
shout out that they are still meditators. What a silly bunch of needy,
attention-desperate, ego-attached children. This really gets to the crux
of the fundamentalist trait that the born-again christian, muslim
fanatics, and anti-TM OCD mental cases are all about.

Pathetic.

OffWorld


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 Move over to
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 Anybody writing here would like their non-meditation status reviewed
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Upgrade your FFL Meditator Status

2009-05-30 Thread at_man_and_brahman
I'm a yes, since 1976.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 Move over to
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 Anybody writing here would like their non-meditation status reviewed or 
 upgraded for the FFL posting list?
 
 Posters: 98
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Upgrade your FFL Meditator Status

2009-05-30 Thread Duveyoung
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 Move over to
 `yes'=meditator
 
 
 Anybody writing here would like their non-meditation status reviewed or 
 upgraded for the FFL posting list?

Yes, I want a review of my status.

I do not know what your meaning is for meditator.

Edg


 
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 50 authfriend jstein@
 `Yes' 50 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 `Yes' 45 Vaj vajradhatu@
 `Yes' 44 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 32 grate.swan no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 `Yes'  31 Bhairitu noozguru@
 29 sparaig LEnglish5@
 27 ruthsimplicity no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 27 Richard J. Williams willytex@
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 22 off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 `Yes' 22 dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@
 21 enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 `Yes' 20 Rick Archer rick@
 `Yes' 20 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 18 do.rflex do.rflex@
 17 bob_brigante no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 16 Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
 `Yes' 15 BillyG. wgm4u@
 13 Richard M compost1uk@
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'Yes' 10 satvadude108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
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 10 lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@
 9 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 8 WLeed3@
 8 Nelson nelsonriddle2001@
 7 geezerfreak geezerfreak@
 3 drpetersutphen drpetersutphen@
 3 William108 william108wm@
 3 Dick Richardson somerset_2@
 `Yes' 3 Dick Mays dickmays@
 3 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
 2 sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 2 scienceofabundance no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 2 beno beno mynameisbeno@
 2 Tom azgrey@
 2 Marek Reavis reavismarek@
 2 Hugo richardhughes103@
 1 uns_tressor uns_tressor@
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 1 pranamoocher bhrma@
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 1 Joe Smith msilver1951@
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   2 tomwalsh23 tomwalsh23@
   2 It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@
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   2 Stu buttsplicer@
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   1 emptybill emptybill@
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   1 Devanath Saraswati devnath9@
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   1 Darrylle darrystaff@
   1 Thomas Walsh tomwalsh23@
   1 fflmod@
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   1 jim_falkenstern jimfalkenstern@
   1 at_man_and_brahman at_man_and_brahman@
   1 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
   4 It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@
   4 I am the eternal L.Shaddai@
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Upgrade your FFL Meditator Status

2009-05-30 Thread shempmcgurk
How does this help me look down my nose at those who practise some form of 
meditation other than the TM technique, as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

Do you think we could have all the participants make that distinction?

I really need to feel better about myself.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman 
at_man_and_brah...@... wrote:

 I'm a yes, since 1976.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  Move over to
  `yes'=meditator
  
  
  Anybody writing here would like their non-meditation status reviewed or 
  upgraded for the FFL posting list?
  
  Posters: 98
  
  
   `Yes' = meditators
  
  
 
  Fairfield Life Post Counter, Meditator Status:
 
  50 authfriend jstein@
  `Yes' 50 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  `Yes' 45 Vaj vajradhatu@
  `Yes' 44 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  32 grate.swan no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  `Yes'  31 Bhairitu noozguru@
  29 sparaig LEnglish5@
  27 ruthsimplicity no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  27 Richard J. Williams willytex@
  `yes' 24  Robert babajii_99@
  22 off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  `Yes' 22 dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@
  21 enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  `Yes' 20 Rick Archer rick@
  `Yes' 20 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  18 do.rflex do.rflex@
  17 bob_brigante no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  16 Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
  `Yes' 15 BillyG. wgm4u@
  13 Richard M compost1uk@
  `Yes' 12 shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 'Yes' 10 satvadude108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  `Yes' 10 raunchydog raunchydog@
  10 lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@
  9 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  8 WLeed3@
  8 Nelson nelsonriddle2001@
  7 geezerfreak geezerfreak@
  3 drpetersutphen drpetersutphen@
  3 William108 william108wm@
  3 Dick Richardson somerset_2@
  `Yes' 3 Dick Mays dickmays@
  3 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
  2 sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  2 scienceofabundance no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  2 beno beno mynameisbeno@
  2 Tom azgrey@
  2 Marek Reavis reavismarek@
  2 Hugo richardhughes103@
  1 uns_tressor uns_tressor@
  1 tkrystofiak krysto@
  1 pranamoocher bhrma@
  1 nelson lafrancis nelsonriddle2001@
  1 metoostill metoostill@
  1 Peter drpetersutphen@
  1 Paul Mason premanandpaul@
  1 Patrick Gillam jpgillam@
  1 Mike Doughney mike@
  1 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@
  1 Joe Smith msilver1951@
  1 Barbara Thomas barbara_thomas73@
  1 min.pige min.pige@
  1 wayback71 wayback71@
  1 jyouells2000 john_youells@ 
 
  1 shukra69 shukra69@
  1 sanosh2002 sanosh2002@
  1 Zoran Krneta krneta.zoran@
  1 John jr_esq@
   `Yes'  1 enpai enpai@
2 Jason jedi_spock@
2 tomwalsh23 tomwalsh23@
2 It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@
3 kaladevi93 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
2 Stu buttsplicer@
6 Ben brbenjaminassisi@
 1 kuldip jhala kulls2005@ 
1 ve-da@
1 ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
1 sanosh2002 sanosh2002@
1 horashastra ve-da@
1 feste37 feste37@
1 emptybill emptybill@
1 WLeed3@
   yes'  1 Dick Mays dickmays@
1 Devanath Saraswati devnath9@
1 uns_tressor uns_tressor@
1 jimjim5886 jimjim5886@
1 Darrylle darrystaff@
1 Thomas Walsh tomwalsh23@
1 fflmod@
`yes'  1 bhawani_shank2000 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
1 jim_falkenstern jimfalkenstern@
1 at_man_and_brahman at_man_and_brahman@
1 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
4 It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@
4 I am the eternal L.Shaddai@
1 gullible fool fflmod@
1 vedamerlin@
3 metoostill metoostill@
1 alex52556 alex.at.52556@
1 Randy Meltzer rm108@
  
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  Don't meditate?
  
  Not close.  Sorry. 
  
  
  
  
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  Are these writers, all meditators? Of some kind?
 
 
 
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recent times.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hollywood's Fastest Growing Religion

2009-05-30 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Stu
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 7:42 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hollywood's Fastest Growing Religion
 
 I have been working on The Office. Just finished the season. Been taking
 it easy for the last month or so, have a few irons in the fire. All in all I
 am living the dream in the 'wood.
  
 Cool. My wife and I love that show and watch it regularly. What was your
 job? Writing?

Film editor.  On a show like The Office it is practically like being one of the 
writers.  I working on the first 6 back in 2005 and came back this year.  Its a 
a lot of fun but the hours are very intense.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hollywoods Fastest Growing Religion

2009-05-30 Thread Stu

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu buttsplicer@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
   Stu wrote:
   
I have been working on The Office.  Just finished the
season.  Been taking it easy for the last month or so,
have a few irons in the fire.  All in all I am living
the dream in the 'wood.
  
   Good to hear that.  I've been hearing about cutbacks in
   productions due to the economy. Must be hitting Hollywood
   hard.  I'm hoping that leaner budgets may put more of an
   emphasis on writing to carry a show. Lower budget projects
   like Burn Notice are very entertaining.  I also liked
   the pilot for Mental which is lean more in a BBC way.
 
  I wish I could be so positive about the budget cuts. Generally
  it means they are less likely to hire writers to come up with
  fresh ideas, instead the suits look to remake old shows or hope
  star power will carry a series. They cut back on writing staffs.

 Stu, is there anything general you can say about
 the percentages in a show's budget? Like how much
 is spent on star power, how much on writers, and
 how much on actual production?

A film budget is broken into two parts.  Above the line and Below the
line.  The Above the line group are the producers, actors, director,
and writers.  The Below the line are the crew and production costs
like camera rentals, stages, location fees, and so on.  Generally in
Hollywood the Above the line costs are slightly more than 50% of
total.

For the most part the writers get screwed and much more money will go to
big a name actors because a high paid actor can bring a project more
money and publicity.  There are a few good books on this subject.  
Adventures in the Screen Trade: William  Goldman
http://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Screen-Trade-William-Goldman/dp/044639\
1174  is a pretty good one.

One of the reasons British remakes are the fashion these days is that
they don't have to pay a writer development fees to come up with
something new.  Much easier to license a British show and a pay a writer
a few weeks work to adapt it.


 One of the reasons I ask is that I can only imagine
 that on the loathsome US version of life On Mars
 they spent their entire budget on Harvey Keitel and
 had nothing left over to hire writers with, so they
 made do with an infinite number of monkeys chained
 to typewriters.  :-)

Yes.  And also there are only so many talents like David Kelly and Joss
Whedon around.  Most of them would rather work on something original so
they can have profit participation in the project.  Also I often see
talented showrunners who don't have the budget to pay for an A team
writing staff and have to make do with new writers and limited schedules
to develop scripts.  When a good show is made these days its success is
in spite of the best efforts of the media conglomerates to foil it.


  The corporate world hates taking chances in the best of times.
  Now innovation and surprise are dead.

 As shown by the fate so far of Kings. One of the
 most interesting shows I've seen come from mainstream
 television in years, and it's toast. Then again, no
 one seems to have watched it, which shows the if the
 audience prefers to eat shit, few are going to try to
 serve them more nourishing meals.

I tried watching Kings and lost interest quickly.  Seemed very Bush
era once we moved passed it.


 On the other hand, Dollhouse survived. That's encour-
 aging. I liked it.

I didn't like the premise of Dollhouse.  The situation was sort of a
high tech whore house.


 For the upcoming summer season I really don't know if
 there is anything I look forward to except True Blood
 and Californication. The HBO series Into The Storm
 looks good, mainly because it's the great Brendan
 Gleeson playing Churchill.

Watched Into The Storm last night and enjoyed it.  It was a little
dry, but a very interesting look at the War through British eyes.

Saw The Soloist yesterday and really enjoyed it.  I liked Joe Wrights
other movies like Atonement and Pride and Prejudice, this film had some
really nice musical moments that got abstract.  The story of the
reporter and the homeless guy had a lot of heart.  It takes you into a
world one rarely gets a glimpse at.  Robert Downey and Jamie Fox were
really good.  I had been following Steve Lopez's colomns about Nathaniel
Ayers when it was happening.  I had the opportunity of meeting Steve
Lopez at a fund raising event so I was quite familiar with the story.