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I just wanted to give thanks to all of the wonderful people here for all your heartfelt thoughts and wishes. Sherry - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
Re: hypothethical question....
You absolutely have to tell them. We ran into this with a hoarding case. Some of the cats still have to be restested. 8 out of 28 were FeLV positive. I adopted out 3 cats that were negative to a couple who had other cats. I made it very clear the cats they were getting had been exposed and needed to be retested by their vet in 3 months. Even if they were negative after 3 months I would have told them. They said it was fine as their cats were well vaccinated. They even discussed it with their vet. If you are educated about FeLV and pass that education along to the people who are getting the cats you will be suprised. I thought there would be a lot of resistence, but there wasn't as much as I thought when I thoroughly explained the situation to them. 2 cats also went to households where there were no other animals. I encouraged them to retest in 3 months. I told them that if the cats still test negative they probably had a natural immunity, though we vaccinated them anyway. Education is key Beth JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was discussing feluk and feluk exposed cats and someone asked me this question and what would I do, I still am thinking of the answer, and was curious what other people would answer; question: feluk exposed cat 6 months, that was neg on ifa and elisa, but liter mate was postive on both tests, and then seperated, after being together for 6 months. would you feel that it was ethical to place the cat up for adoption with no mention of the cat being feluk exposed or do you feel it is your ethical duty to let the adopter know that it was exposed to feluk(also take into consideration that the cat might be up for adoption a long time, since a lot of people shy away from feluk) and also if placing with a rescue, telling or not and also if telling they wouldn't take the cat? I was curious what other people would do... Thanks Jeni _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07 - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
Re: Slinky - Please add to the CLS
Marissa, I am so sorry you had to go through this. I know Slinky knows how much you loved him. I pray you find peace in the days ahead. Dede and Ki --- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I guess I need to complete the updates on Slinky, huh? When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: Slinky - Please add to the CLS
Hey Marissa, I cried reading your post this morning. I am hoping the kids who are testing across the library from me aren't watching. That old familiar lump kept popping up in my throat as I read along, first when you talked about giving him the only gift you could at that point, then when you spoke of laying him on his pillow while they did the catheter and crying, and then again when you spoke of your dad, and how wonderfully understanding and kind he was to you. That kind of kindness is just invaluable. I laughed when you said that you thought half the u.s. population is praying for you. I felt that way too when I came here when Cricket was sick. After he died, people here told me that he would visit me again. A few mornings after Cricket died, I woke up and looked down beside my bed and there was a cricket there. Granted, it was not alive, but still...usually we have a lot of crickets around november in texas and we just didn't have a cricket season that year. I hadn't seen any, so it shocked me to see this lone cricket by my bed. And Cricket was always 'different'...lol, so it would not surprise me that he would leave a dead cricket by my bed to try to communicate with me. I just want to tell you how much I think of you that you did all you could for Slinky. Bless you for your unconditional and endless love for Slinky. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS
Hey Sherry, I'm sorry to hear about little Hammy. He sounds like a love. Prayers going out for Lucinda. :) Wendy --- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little Hammy.He is now with all the Angel fur kids. Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much Sherry - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091
Re: hypothethical question....
Hi Jeni, Keep in mind that this is coming from a person who is ignorant of shelter procedures, but if it were me and I knew that kitty had tested negative twice over a span of at least six months (meaning six months or more between negative tests), then I would not disclose the information as I would feel there is nothing to disclose. :) Wendy --- JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was discussing feluk and feluk exposed cats and someone asked me this question and what would I do, I still am thinking of the answer, and was curious what other people would answer; question: feluk exposed cat 6 months, that was neg on ifa and elisa, but liter mate was postive on both tests, and then seperated, after being together for 6 months. would you feel that it was ethical to place the cat up for adoption with no mention of the cat being feluk exposed or do you feel it is your ethical duty to let the adopter know that it was exposed to feluk(also take into consideration that the cat might be up for adoption a long time, since a lot of people shy away from feluk) and also if placing with a rescue, telling or not and also if telling they wouldn't take the cat? I was curious what other people would do... Thanks Jeni _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php
Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty
Dear Elizabeth, I am so sorry for Mama Kitty's passing. Her picture is just beautiful. I know she is doing better now (rolling in the sun somewhere just as I pictured her on her last day). The hard part is knowing the pain that you, her kind, generous, loving caretaker must struggle with in her crossing. Now I am picturing you, sitting with a cup of tea on the porch in Mama's favorite spot, feeling the warmth of the sun and knowing that it is really a big hug from Mama and all of us on this list. Ok, now I have to go blow my nose... Hugs, Beth On 3/28/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leslie, thank you. By the time we got to the vets office, she was having really bad seizures every few minutes. She really did not know where she was. She had lost over a pound this week and her gums were just white. The vet felt that she was not getting enough oxygen to her brain. She couldn't stand - she was just like a little rag doll. Her back was very sensitive - she was obviously in pain - I am not sure why. I talked to her. She was ready to go. She didn't want to be kept alive by extreme measures only to waste away and be in pain. It was a very hard decision but I believe it was the right one for her. She was very close to death and she was gone in no more than a second or two - she was very calm. There is nothing I wouldn't have done for her - no matter how much it cost...but no amount of money could have given her back her quality of life. I believe that to have kept going by extreme measures would have been selfish of me. She made it almost a year after her first crash with an excellent quality of life. This all happened so fast. I am so glad she slept with me last night. She knew that she was loved. I am so grateful for the time we had together. This is so very hard. We had such a close bond. Every day is a gift. elizabeth On 3/28/07, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *I think I missed something... wasn't she having seizures? Did you find out what caused them? * ** *I'm sooo sorry Elizabeth... When I read about the seizures I felt so bad... I went through that with our Tikki (double positive) last year. We never did find out what was causing them. * *I'm sooo sorry for your loss. * ** *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/28/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:27 AM 3/28/2007, you wrote: OhElizabeth I hurts so much I know, You are not alone and it is good Mama Kitty is in no more pain, and you have taken that pain for her. Time will ease the pain and the happy memories will take over, but that will take a while,] You are not alone in this, all of our thoughts are with you now, Kelly L Mama Kitty, You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much. You are surrounded by roses. I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms. It hurts so much to say goodbye. You will forever be alive in my heart. I love you. elizabeth No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/734 - Release Date: 3/26/2007 -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS
Hi Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss of Hammy. Prayers going out for dear Lucinda. Beth On 3/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little Hammy.He is now with all the Angel fur kids. Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much Sherry -- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Ratinghttp://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/;_ylc=X3oDMTE4MGw4Z2hlBF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDZ3JlZW5jZW50ZXI-at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
RE: Hammy Please add to the CLS
Sherry, my condolences on Hammy's passing. Gentle Bridge vibes to him, and hugs to you. Vibes that Lucinda is okay. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beth Noren Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:32 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS Hi Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss of Hammy. Prayers going out for dear Lucinda. Beth On 3/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little Hammy.He is now with all the Angel fur kids. Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much Sherry Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/;_ylc=X3oDMTE4MGw4Z2hlBF9TAzk3MTA3M Dc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDZ3JlZW5jZW50ZXI- at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Hideyo - Please send her strength
Hideyo, sending strength and good thoughts to you in this difficult time. Beth On 3/28/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm writing to the list for prayers, strength and love to be sent to our dear friend Hideyo. She has had so many losses, so much pain and sadness, so much strife, she could so use our strength right now. It has been difficult for her to find time to participate in the list lately. She has stoically been dealing with loss after loss, and still, when I asked for her help in interpreting Joey's test results she wrote back immediately. I have never met a more giving unselfish heart as Hideyo. You may not agree with where her decisions take her, but they are always made from a place of love and giving. I wish there was more that I could do to relieve her burdens. Sometimes knowing that you are not alone, knowing that others care and are sending good thoughts and blessings your way can help rally our fortitude and get us through the worst of times. Hideyo is such an unsung hero and I'm proud to call her friend. Hang in there Hideyo, you are loved, Nina
Re: hypothethical question....
It would be unethical for a shelter. If they had been separate for a year and retested Elisa and IFA I wouldn't feel obligated, although I personally still would. Beth wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jeni, Keep in mind that this is coming from a person who is ignorant of shelter procedures, but if it were me and I knew that kitty had tested negative twice over a span of at least six months (meaning six months or more between negative tests), then I would not disclose the information as I would feel there is nothing to disclose. :) Wendy --- JENI RECA wrote: Hi, I was discussing feluk and feluk exposed cats and someone asked me this question and what would I do, I still am thinking of the answer, and was curious what other people would answer; question: feluk exposed cat 6 months, that was neg on ifa and elisa, but liter mate was postive on both tests, and then seperated, after being together for 6 months. would you feel that it was ethical to place the cat up for adoption with no mention of the cat being feluk exposed or do you feel it is your ethical duty to let the adopter know that it was exposed to feluk(also take into consideration that the cat might be up for adoption a long time, since a lot of people shy away from feluk) and also if placing with a rescue, telling or not and also if telling they wouldn't take the cat? I was curious what other people would do... Thanks Jeni _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty
I'm so sorry that Mama Kitty had to leave you. You were a great mom to her. Gina elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mama Kitty, You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much. You are surrounded by roses. I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms. It hurts so much to say goodbye. You will forever be alive in my heart. I love you. elizabeth Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS
You and Hammy are in my thoughts. Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little Hammy.He is now with all the Angel fur kids. Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much Sherry - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty
My condolences on Mama Kitty's passing. It is VERY hard to lose a loved one. -Original Message- From: Gina WN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Mar 29, 2007 10:53 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty I'm so sorry that Mama Kitty had to leave you. You were a great mom to her. Ginaelizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mama Kitty, You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much. You are surrounded by roses. I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms. It hurts so much to say goodbye. You will forever be alive in my heart. I love you. elizabeth Visit my Tigger Tales site! Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
Re: hypothethical question....
I would tell them if they asked, but other than that, no. It is pretty likely that any cat who comes through a high volume shelter has been exposed anyway. On 3/29/07, Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be unethical for a shelter. If they had been separate for a year and retested Elisa and IFA I wouldn't feel obligated, although I personally still would. Beth *wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Hi Jeni, Keep in mind that this is coming from a person who is ignorant of shelter procedures, but if it were me and I knew that kitty had tested negative twice over a span of at least six months (meaning six months or more between negative tests), then I would not disclose the information as I would feel there is nothing to disclose. :) Wendy --- JENI RECA wrote: Hi, I was discussing feluk and feluk exposed cats and someone asked me this question and what would I do, I still am thinking of the answer, and was curious what other people would answer; question: feluk exposed cat 6 months, that was neg on ifa and elisa, but liter mate was postive on both tests, and then seperated, after being together for 6 months. would you feel that it was ethical to place the cat up for adoption with no mention of the cat being feluk exposed or do you feel it is your ethical duty to let the adopter know that it was exposed to feluk(also take into consideration that the cat might be up for adoption a long time, since a lot of people shy away from feluk) and also if placing with a rescue, telling or not and also if telling they wouldn't take the cat? I was curious what other people would do... Thanks Jeni _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php -- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
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I joined this list because my kitty died on Sunday from feline lukemia she also had feline hiv. She was a stray I adopted two years ago, and when I first adopted her I tested her and she came back negative. I think she contracted it before I adopted her, and I have kept her up to date on all her shots. It has been very very hard for me. I don't know if I will ever heal. I miss having her around, am wondering if I can ever have another kitty. I would make sure if I adopted they would be negative and have all their shots and not be a stray- but I don't know if my apartment will be safe or if it will have the virus still around. How long should I wait? - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: Slinky - Please add to the CLS
Marissa, My heart aches for your loss of Slinky. Gina Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I guess I need to complete the updates on Slinky, huh? Yes, he went to the bridge last night. I was having second thoughts all day yesterday...he, of course, perked up a bit, sat in the window sill again (hadn't done that in ages), and was still drinking, eating, and breathing fine. I even started to wonder if his nose looked pinker. But I decided to go to the vet appointment and ask her what she thought - and that all important question, what would you do if he were your kitty? Right before we left I think I finally understood that it really was time. It occurred to me that on Sunday he was very cuddly with me and initiating some cuddle time on his own. But yesterday he didn't want anything to do with me. And when we left the vet on Monday, someone said he'd tell me when it was time, and I remember thinking, I think he already has told me but I didn't want to believe it. I think his spirit left on Sunday...I think all that cuddling was him saying goodbye and beginning to get ready for the journey. So we went to the vet and I asked her if she thought his nose looked pinker. She looked at his gums, etc. and assured me that they were not. I was tempted to have her do another CBC, but that seemed like just adding to the torture he'd already been through. Without my even asking, the vet said, If this were my cat, this is what I would be doing. Not only is he not getting any better, but he's actually getting steadily worse...and he's just going to suffer if we wait much longer. She of course pointed out that I had the option of waiting, but that seemed like it would just drag out the inevitable. He was so weak the last couple days that he couldn't even get back on the bed once he'd gotten down. The vet explained everything in detail and even shaved some of his fur for me since I'd forgotten I wanted a sample (good cuz what she got was way better than anything I could've gotten with a scissors). Then she gave him the tranquilizer (I think she did it quickly so I wouldn't have time to change my mind...knowing that was best for me and for Slinky). She said it would take a few minutes for it to work, so they left and I just held him and cried and told him how much I loved him. Thanked him for letting me share in his life and told him I was giving him the only gift I could at this point. The room we were in had a beautiful painting of the bridge, so I showed it to him and told him that was where he was going. They had put a sheep skin-like pad on the table and when they came back I laid him on that and put his head on his favorite pillow (he loved to knead on this sqush pillow I have). She thought they might have to put a catheter in his front leg to get the needle in since his veins were so small, but she was able to do it in his back leg. Once it was in, I just held him and cried and cried some more. But I know he was in peace. He visited me this morning - as I was waking up I could hear the birds outside my window and I distinctly heard a meow (I remember thinking that I didn't know of a bird that meowed). When it happened I got chills. And when I woke up fully I realized that he was letting me know that he's happy and he loves me. I'm actually doing much better than I expected to be. After the vet appointment my friend took me out to dinner and then to ben and jerry's (self-medicating is always good!), which distracted me and that helped a lot. Of course when I got home I completely lost it, but I knew that would happen. I called dad and he was wondeful about telling me I did all the right things, that he loves me, and not to worry about paying all those bills back 'till some time in the future. Today I relaxed in the morning and then went and got my hair cut (my stylist is dad's partner and the owner of the salon...so he has lots of experience with losing kitties) and did some shopping. I got a stuffed kitty that looks just like Slinky, so he'll be my new sleeping buddy. I thought I would lose it when I came home tonight, but I just choked up for a bit and really was okay. I know all the prayers and thoughts everyone is sending me are helping a ton!!! I think half the population of the US is praying for me and checking on me! You guys have been absolutely amazing and having people to talk to who've been there and understand how this is has been an unbelievable help! Thank you all so much for all your support!!! I know this is kinda long, but since you've all been reading so much about Slink, I thought you might want to know some of the details of his crossing. Thanks again for everything...I know I couldn't get through this without you!! Love to you and all your furkids! MJ -
Re: satine
Don't worry too much about this. I would toss old food and water bowls and either bleach clean or replace the litterbox. Also, think about what a good life you gave that cat for the past two years. What would hre life have been had you not taken her in? Hard as it is to lose someone you love, you made her life so much better. Would you rather erase those two years? Give yourself some time to grieve but don't rule out another stray or special needs cat. If you made that choice years ago you would not have had Satine at all. Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I joined this list because my kitty died on Sunday from feline lukemia she also had feline hiv. She was a stray I adopted two years ago, and when I first adopted her I tested her and she came back negative. I think she contracted it before I adopted her, and I have kept her up to date on all her shots. It has been very very hard for me. I don't know if I will ever heal. I miss having her around, am wondering if I can ever have another kitty. I would make sure if I adopted they would be negative and have all their shots and not be a stray- but I don't know if my apartment will be safe or if it will have the virus still around. How long should I wait? - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: satine
*Jenna, I'm very sorry for your loss... it is never easy. Please know that your house is safe... the virus does not live very long outside the body. Leslie =^..^=* On 3/29/07, Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I joined this list because my kitty died on Sunday from feline lukemia she also had feline hiv. She was a stray I adopted two years ago, and when I first adopted her I tested her and she came back negative. I think she contracted it before I adopted her, and I have kept her up to date on all her shots. It has been very very hard for me. I don't know if I will ever heal. I miss having her around, am wondering if I can ever have another kitty. I would make sure if I adopted they would be negative and have all their shots and not be a stray- but I don't know if my apartment will be safe or if it will have the virus still around. How long should I wait? -- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty
Thank you, Gina. On 3/29/07, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so sorry that Mama Kitty had to leave you. You were a great mom to her. Gina *elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Mama Kitty, You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much. You are surrounded by roses. I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms. It hurts so much to say goodbye. You will forever be alive in my heart. I love you. elizabeth *Visit my **Tigger Tales* http://tiggerwiggins.com/* site!* -- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty
Thank you, Debbie On 3/29/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My condolences on Mama Kitty's passing. It is VERY hard to lose a loved one. -Original Message- From: Gina WN Sent: Mar 29, 2007 10:53 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty I'm so sorry that Mama Kitty had to leave you. You were a great mom to her. Gina *elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Mama Kitty, You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much. You are surrounded by roses. I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms. It hurts so much to say goodbye. You will forever be alive in my heart. I love you. elizabeth *Visit my **Tigger Tales* http://tiggerwiggins.com/* site!* -- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail#news with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail#news
Re: Slinky - Please add to the CLS
I'm so sorry.. I know how hard it is. If my boyfriend hadn't bee holding me when I put my second FeLV kitty to sleep I really think I would have snatched her from the table and ran, even though I knew it was the right thing to do. I had the vet shave some hair from the belly of one of my FeLV cats after he was PTS. He had the most beautiful golden belly fur. I put it in the jar with his ashes. Now I can pet him any time I want. Beth Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I guess I need to complete the updates on Slinky, huh? Yes, he went to the bridge last night. I was having second thoughts all day yesterday...he, of course, perked up a bit, sat in the window sill again (hadn't done that in ages), and was still drinking, eating, and breathing fine. I even started to wonder if his nose looked pinker. But I decided to go to the vet appointment and ask her what she thought - and that all important question, what would you do if he were your kitty? Right before we left I think I finally understood that it really was time. It occurred to me that on Sunday he was very cuddly with me and initiating some cuddle time on his own. But yesterday he didn't want anything to do with me. And when we left the vet on Monday, someone said he'd tell me when it was time, and I remember thinking, I think he already has told me but I didn't want to believe it. I think his spirit left on Sunday...I think all that cuddling was him saying goodbye and beginning to get ready for the journey. So we went to the vet and I asked her if she thought his nose looked pinker. She looked at his gums, etc. and assured me that they were not. I was tempted to have her do another CBC, but that seemed like just adding to the torture he'd already been through. Without my even asking, the vet said, If this were my cat, this is what I would be doing. Not only is he not getting any better, but he's actually getting steadily worse...and he's just going to suffer if we wait much longer. She of course pointed out that I had the option of waiting, but that seemed like it would just drag out the inevitable. He was so weak the last couple days that he couldn't even get back on the bed once he'd gotten down. The vet explained everything in detail and even shaved some of his fur for me since I'd forgotten I wanted a sample (good cuz what she got was way better than anything I could've gotten with a scissors). Then she gave him the tranquilizer (I think she did it quickly so I wouldn't have time to change my mind...knowing that was best for me and for Slinky). She said it would take a few minutes for it to work, so they left and I just held him and cried and told him how much I loved him. Thanked him for letting me share in his life and told him I was giving him the only gift I could at this point. The room we were in had a beautiful painting of the bridge, so I showed it to him and told him that was where he was going. They had put a sheep skin-like pad on the table and when they came back I laid him on that and put his head on his favorite pillow (he loved to knead on this sqush pillow I have). She thought they might have to put a catheter in his front leg to get the needle in since his veins were so small, but she was able to do it in his back leg. Once it was in, I just held him and cried and cried some more. But I know he was in peace. He visited me this morning - as I was waking up I could hear the birds outside my window and I distinctly heard a meow (I remember thinking that I didn't know of a bird that meowed). When it happened I got chills. And when I woke up fully I realized that he was letting me know that he's happy and he loves me. I'm actually doing much better than I expected to be. After the vet appointment my friend took me out to dinner and then to ben and jerry's (self-medicating is always good!), which distracted me and that helped a lot. Of course when I got home I completely lost it, but I knew that would happen. I called dad and he was wondeful about telling me I did all the right things, that he loves me, and not to worry about paying all those bills back 'till some time in the future. Today I relaxed in the morning and then went and got my hair cut (my stylist is dad's partner and the owner of the salon...so he has lots of experience with losing kitties) and did some shopping. I got a stuffed kitty that looks just like Slinky, so he'll be my new sleeping buddy. I thought I would lose it when I came home tonight, but I just choked up for a bit and really was okay. I know all the prayers and thoughts everyone is sending me are helping a ton!!! I think half the population of the US is praying for me and checking on me! You guys have been absolutely amazing and having people to talk to who've been there and understand how this is has been an unbelievable
In memory of Bagheera
I was shifting thru pics the other day and found this one of Bagheera. I brought this fella home from the airport where I worked. We had a lot of temps working at that time and they were hitting at him, licking, etc... At the same time I had just got married and we bought a new home. I scooped Bagheera up and took him home. He lived with us for nearly 2 years. He weighed 20+ pounds. He had been someone's pet because he had been neutered, however they also discovered a bb lodged in his skull where someone had shot him. He was the most lovable, gentle giant around. Unfortunately we believe a coyote may have got him. He went out one morning and never returned. Normally he never left the yard. We miss him dearly and he left his mark upon our hearts. http://picasaweb.google.com/justadreamer1021/MoreCatsKittens/photo#5045947101674979682
RE: In memory of Bagheera
What a lovely boy. Thanks. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: In memory of Bagheera I was shifting thru pics the other day and found this one of Bagheera. I brought this fella home from the airport where I worked. We had a lot of temps working at that time and they were hitting at him, licking, etc... At the same time I had just got married and we bought a new home. I scooped Bagheera up and took him home. He lived with us for nearly 2 years. He weighed 20+ pounds. He had been someone's pet because he had been neutered, however they also discovered a bb lodged in his skull where someone had shot him. He was the most lovable, gentle giant around. Unfortunately we believe a coyote may have got him. He went out one morning and never returned. Normally he never left the yard. We miss him dearly and he left his mark upon our hearts. http://picasaweb.google.com/justadreamer1021/MoreCatsKittens/photo#50459 47101674979682 This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: satine
Hi Jenna, First, I am so sorry to hear about your beloved Satine. What a beautiful name. We all know here how hard it is to lose a beloved furbaby. The good news is that with time, your grief will become less. The trick is to think about all the wonderful memories you have of Satine and to allow yourself to grieve. This group helped me so much when I lost my Cricket, and even though I don't have anymore FeLV+ kitties, I've never left the group. Cricket died a year and a half ago. You have found a good place for information and healing. Also, there is a pet loss support website you should check out: http://rainbowsbridge.com/Grief_Support_Center/Grief_Support_Home.htm This poem, on the same website, really helped me too: http://rainbowsbridge.com/Poem.htm As far as opening your home to another kitty, I think that is a wonderful idea. I adopted our Smookie in Feb. and had lost Cricket the Nov. before, so it was about 4 months. Smookie really helped to take my mind off losing Cricket. I was not worried about the virus being in the home. Most of us here believe that the virus is very hard to pass without direct blood contact. The virus can't live long outside it's host, so I would think after a couple of weeks and getting new food/water bowls and a new litter box (or bleach the one you have); you shouldn't have much to worry about. Please keep us posted if you adopt another furbaby. And if you need anything or just to vent/talk, we're here. :) Wendy Dallas, Tx Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
To Belinda: Re: Fred Update
Hey Belinda, I called my vet yesterday to ask if he thought that I should start adding potassium to Julie's subQ fluids. She is hyperT, and gets Tapazole/Meth. compounded 2x per day. Her back legs are pretty weak, and after reading about Fred's weak back legs, and that you are supplementing him with potassium, I called to check with my vet. He said not to do that because potassium overdoses are serious and happen often, and that we'd have to take her blood all the time to check the potassium levels. I don't think he looked at her potassium numbers though. My questions are these: 1) When I go home tonight to check her numbers off the last bloodwork she had, which number am I looking for? Is potassium pk? 2) If her numbers are low, do you think it would be wise for me to supplement some considering the weakness in her hind legs? I do agree that I don't want to take her blood more than we already are, about every four months. She's so old and small. 3) If I do supplement, where do I get potassium and how much should I do? Thanks for your advice, Julie and I really appreciate it, :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
Re: hypothethical question....
Answering what I would do in my personal circumstances and answering what I might do if I were part of an organized rescue might yield different answers... First, let me say, from my personal experience of having a healthy neg kitten from a felv litter, (he's now 3yrs and has never been sick); having mixed for years without a single neg turning pos; from the extensive reports of the same from the members of this list, I'd be fairly confident that this kitten would not turn up pos someday. That said, I would still disclose his history to any potential adopters, (along with a brief education about felv, suggestions about re-testing and to be watchful for any signs of illness). I understand the logic of placing as many animals as possible, about how any home is better than the alternative of life on the street, or being killed in a shelter, but I get far too attached to my charges to not do everything in my power to insure they will be safe and happy in their new homes. I would just consider it as part of making sure that the potential home and the kitten are a good match. Each animal is an individual to me, not just a statistic. This little fellow is even more special because he has beaten the odds of an early death and he has found himself in the hands of someone that cares enough to give him a chance at a full life. I would plan on telling his potential adopters his full history and have faith that this little guy would continue to be blessed in finding a forever home with someone that would appreciate how very special he is. I have a feeling that there is someone out there that would recognize how blessed they are to have him. Nina JENI RECA wrote: Hi, I was discussing feluk and feluk exposed cats and someone asked me this question and what would I do, I still am thinking of the answer, and was curious what other people would answer; question: feluk exposed cat 6 months, that was neg on ifa and elisa, but liter mate was postive on both tests, and then seperated, after being together for 6 months. would you feel that it was ethical to place the cat up for adoption with no mention of the cat being feluk exposed or do you feel it is your ethical duty to let the adopter know that it was exposed to feluk(also take into consideration that the cat might be up for adoption a long time, since a lot of people shy away from feluk) and also if placing with a rescue, telling or not and also if telling they wouldn't take the cat? I was curious what other people would do... Thanks Jeni _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07
Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS
GLOW continues all the time for the kids, and humans, who give so much at crash's and sid's MC On 3/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little Hammy.He is now with all the Angel fur kids. Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much Sherry -- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Ratinghttp://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/;_ylc=X3oDMTE4MGw4Z2hlBF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDZ3JlZW5jZW50ZXI-at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: In memory of Bagheera
oh, that photo needs to be a card... loved the other photos, too! they come to us for a reason, and sometimes i think it may just be to remind us that there's always love enough to go around MC On 3/29/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was shifting thru pics the other day and found this one of Bagheera. I brought this fella home from the airport where I worked. We had a lot of temps working at that time and they were hitting at him, licking, etc... At the same time I had just got married and we bought a new home. I scooped Bagheera up and took him home. He lived with us for nearly 2 years. He weighed 20+ pounds. He had been someone's pet because he had been neutered, however they also discovered a bb lodged in his skull where someone had shot him. He was the most lovable, gentle giant around. Unfortunately we believe a coyote may have got him. He went out one morning and never returned. Normally he never left the yard. We miss him dearly and he left his mark upon our hearts. http://picasaweb.google.com/justadreamer1021/MoreCatsKittens/photo#5045947101674979682 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Hammy Please add to the CLS
So sorry to hear about your babies. I hope Lucinda gets better. Beth Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little Hammy.He is now with all the Angel fur kids. Could you also put Lucinda in your prayers too? she is at Dr. Jens house possibly with some brain problems due to the felv.My boyfriend loves this beautiful orange tiger girl.Thank you all so much Sherry - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
Re: satine
There is no waiting period. The FELV virus dies within minutes to hours outside the cat's body. AIR kills it. Bleach and disinfectants are not needed, just letting it DRY completely kills it. I'm sorry for your loss. But you really don't have anything to worry about. Just change the litterbox, wash it well, and let it dry in the sun, and wash and dry all the bowls, and that's really all that is needed. Beds, perches, etc, cannot carry the virus because they are not wet and warm. Lysol, however is TOXIC to cats, so DON'T try to disinfect the carpeted and cloth surfaces, as you'll be doing much more harm than good. It takes time to heal, but when I lost my Moogie girl in 2001, I went out and got another cat to take her place. While Tigger will never be Moogie, he did fill up that big painful hole in my heart with his cute and crazy kitten antics. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: In memory of Bagheera
I just love the big boys. Mine have always been such momma's boys.
Beth
Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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this one of Bagheera. I brought this fella home from the airport where I
worked. We had a lot of temps working at that time and they were hitting at
him, licking, etc... At the same time I had just got married and we bought a
new home. I scooped Bagheera up and took him home. He lived with us for nearly
2 years. He weighed 20+ pounds. He had been someone's pet because he had been
neutered, however they also discovered a bb lodged in his skull where someone
had shot him. He was the most lovable, gentle giant around. Unfortunately we
believe a coyote may have got him. He went out one morning and never returned.
Normally he never left the yard. We miss him dearly and he left his mark upon
our hearts.
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Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty
I'm so sorry to hear about Mama Kitty. tonya elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mama Kitty, You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much. You are surrounded by roses. I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms. It hurts so much to say goodbye. You will forever be alive in my heart. I love you. elizabeth
Re: satine
What a beautiful name for a kitty! I'm so sorry you had to lose her. The virus is not supposed to stay alive outside the body in a dry environment more than an hour. I never throw anything out. I wash my bowls just like normal. I will put a non-FeLV cat in a carrier I just had a positive cat in as long as the healthy cat is vaccinated without ever cleaning it. I have always mixed my FeLV cats with my healthy cats. Even my FIV cat has never caught it, but they are all vaccinated. Most vets will tell you to throw everything out and wait 6 months. I think they do that so they won't get sued if the new cat ends up positive, which it may just have bee harboring anyway. I no longer fear FeLV and try to spread the work so others won't, either. If you are worried about a new cat getting it, you might want to consider giving another FeLV cat a chance at life. Beth Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I joined this list because my kitty died on Sunday from feline lukemia she also had feline hiv. She was a stray I adopted two years ago, and when I first adopted her I tested her and she came back negative. I think she contracted it before I adopted her, and I have kept her up to date on all her shots. It has been very very hard for me. I don't know if I will ever heal. I miss having her around, am wondering if I can ever have another kitty. I would make sure if I adopted they would be negative and have all their shots and not be a stray- but I don't know if my apartment will be safe or if it will have the virus still around. How long should I wait? - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
Re: hypothethical question....
I agree. People should be informed. If they recoil even after you tell them the cat is negative and probably will never turn positive, then what would they do if the cat gets sick with something else? I don't know about other states, but in GA rescues are regulated by the Dept of Agriculture. We have to maintain records on every cat entering or leaving the shelter - Where they came from - signed surrender forms or forms from AC - testing dates, where the tests were done and the results, shot records with vaccine vile labels, dewormings, proof of spay/neuter by sexual maturity. If cats test positive we have to quarenteen them or put in a foster home. These things are all put in the records for the adopter. If that cat ended up testing positive and started looking through records and saw the sibling was positive, the shelter could be shut down. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Answering what I would do in my personal circumstances and answering what I might do if I were part of an organized rescue might yield different answers... First, let me say, from my personal experience of having a healthy neg kitten from a felv litter, (he's now 3yrs and has never been sick); having mixed for years without a single neg turning pos; from the extensive reports of the same from the members of this list, I'd be fairly confident that this kitten would not turn up pos someday. That said, I would still disclose his history to any potential adopters, (along with a brief education about felv, suggestions about re-testing and to be watchful for any signs of illness). I understand the logic of placing as many animals as possible, about how any home is better than the alternative of life on the street, or being killed in a shelter, but I get far too attached to my charges to not do everything in my power to insure they will be safe and happy in their new homes. I would just consider it as part of making sure that the potential home and the kitten are a good match. Each animal is an individual to me, not just a statistic. This little fellow is even more special because he has beaten the odds of an early death and he has found himself in the hands of someone that cares enough to give him a chance at a full life. I would plan on telling his potential adopters his full history and have faith that this little guy would continue to be blessed in finding a forever home with someone that would appreciate how very special he is. I have a feeling that there is someone out there that would recognize how blessed they are to have him. Nina JENI RECA wrote: Hi, I was discussing feluk and feluk exposed cats and someone asked me this question and what would I do, I still am thinking of the answer, and was curious what other people would answer; question: feluk exposed cat 6 months, that was neg on ifa and elisa, but liter mate was postive on both tests, and then seperated, after being together for 6 months. would you feel that it was ethical to place the cat up for adoption with no mention of the cat being feluk exposed or do you feel it is your ethical duty to let the adopter know that it was exposed to feluk(also take into consideration that the cat might be up for adoption a long time, since a lot of people shy away from feluk) and also if placing with a rescue, telling or not and also if telling they wouldn't take the cat? I was curious what other people would do... Thanks Jeni _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07 - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: satine
Don't rule out rescue even though your heart is breaking in to. Imagine what a wonderful life you gave Satine, a cat who might never have known love without you. I understand that you never want to go thru anything like this again. However, there are no guarantees in life except that we will all leave this world one day. Satine was sent to teach you this and the wonders of total giving. Learn the lesson when your heart is calmer. Until then, know how very much she loves you and how grateful she is for all your love.Ask her and she will visit you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Jenna To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: satine I joined this list because my kitty died on Sunday from feline lukemia she also had feline hiv. She was a stray I adopted two years ago, and when I first adopted her I tested her and she came back negative. I think she contracted it before I adopted her, and I have kept her up to date on all her shots. It has been very very hard for me. I don't know if I will ever heal. I miss having her around, am wondering if I can ever have another kitty. I would make sure if I adopted they would be negative and have all their shots and not be a stray- but I don't know if my apartment will be safe or if it will have the virus still around. How long should I wait? -- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: To Belinda: Re: Fred Update
Hi Wendy, Sorry for your troubles with Julie. I am almost positive my vet told me when I was in there 2 days ago that when giving oral potassium any they don't need is discarded through their urine which I had never heard before. I posted this question on the vet list I'm on but haven't gotten a reply yet, I'll let you know soon as I do. I do know my other vet told me not to worry about the other cats eating Fred's food with the potassium in it, so who knows. I was worried about that too. Fred is not doing good today, he isn't eating at all and he vomited about 4 hours after he got his meds this morning. He hasn't eaten anything since. I just gave him some pepcid, I have to give him his clavamox at 9PM so I guess I'll have to syringe feed him enough to coat his tummy, we have to get rid of that infection. Looks like as soon as we can, we'll be doing another tube since Fred isn't cooperating. His kidney values are all almost back to normal, I will not sit by and let him slowly starve to death or worse yet get hepatic lipidosis. It's his choice, eat on his own or get a tube so I won't feel bad about it. I'm will assist feed but I've never been good at it so in the 2 or 3 weeks we have to wait before we can do another tube he'll probably be in horrible shape again, that's what upsets me so. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Good Bye Mama Kitty
thank you, tonya. elizabeth On 3/29/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so sorry to hear about Mama Kitty. tonya *elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Mama Kitty, You will forever rest in this yard that you loved so much. You are surrounded by roses. I covered your grave with tulips and apple blossoms. It hurts so much to say goodbye. You will forever be alive in my heart. I love you. elizabeth
Re: In memory of Bagheera
What a wonderful, wonderful picture. Thank you for sharing this with us. He was so dear. elizabeth On 3/29/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was shifting thru pics the other day and found this one of Bagheera. I brought this fella home from the airport where I worked. We had a lot of temps working at that time and they were hitting at him, licking, etc... At the same time I had just got married and we bought a new home. I scooped Bagheera up and took him home. He lived with us for nearly 2 years. He weighed 20+ pounds. He had been someone's pet because he had been neutered, however they also discovered a bb lodged in his skull where someone had shot him. He was the most lovable, gentle giant around. Unfortunately we believe a coyote may have got him. He went out one morning and never returned. Normally he never left the yard. We miss him dearly and he left his mark upon our hearts. http://picasaweb.google.com/justadreamer1021/MoreCatsKittens/photo#5045947101674979682
Update on Chief
Well. My parents decided to keep Chief when it came right down to it. So, he's got a good, safe home as an only kitty. :D And, I am interviewing with the airlines to be a flight attendant!! I AM SO EXCITED!!! Steph
Re: To Belinda: Re: Fred Update
Sorry Wendy should have read the whole email before I sent. I get the potassium gluconate at the local pharmacy, it's over the counter Nature Made brand and for 100, 550mg tablets it is $4.00 a bottle. Fred weighted 8lbs 9ozs when he started getting it and he was getting 1 and 1/4 tablet twice a day. His potassium got to the normal range 4.5, it was 3.8 when we started, while this is the low end of normal, it is too low for a CRF cat, they should be in the mid 4 range. After he was at 4.5, I lowered his dose to 3/4 tablet twice a day and he dropped back down to 3.8 again so for the last week or so he's been getting 1 and 1/2 tablet twice a day to try and get him up again, haven't done blood work yet to see where we are. * He is a page where it helps you figure what you need as far as a dose:* http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2r6qt/supplies/potassium.htm#PotassiumGluconate *Lots of info here, high phosphorus can also cause back end weakness:* http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms.htm#minerals * More info:* http://www.felinecrf.org/treatments.htm#low_potassium That whole website is very informational. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Update on Chief
great news on both fronts! (hm. have we mentioned lately how nice it is to have flight attendants who use their passes to help transport special-needs kitties?) MC On 3/29/07, Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well… My parents decided to keep Chief when it came right down to it. So, he's got a good, safe home as an only kitty. :D And, I am interviewing with the airlines to be a flight attendant!! I AM SO EXCITED!!! Steph -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Update on Chief
Such good news Steph, thanks for letting us know. Good luck on the interview! Nina Stephanie E Caldwell wrote: Well… My parents decided to keep Chief when it came right down to it. So, he’s got a good, safe home as an only kitty. :D And, I am interviewing with the airlines to be a flight attendant!! I AM SO EXCITED!!! Steph
Re: To Wendy: Re: Fred Update
Wendy here is the reply I got about the potassium supplements from one of the vets on the vet list I'm on: They potentially will as long as there is enough kidney function to do so. While most cats with CRF waste potassium, those nearing end stage or with acute on chronic disease may not be able to get rid of excess potassium very well. It is probably hard to over do it with oral potassium, but proper monitoring should be done in order to assess therapy. My questions as posted: Hi Vets, I have a question, I am giving Fred potassium supplements, he is CRF and his potassium was low. I'm positive I heard my vet say you can't give too much orally because they will pee out what they don't need. I know this is the case with vitamin B but had not heard that about potassium, is that true, they will pee out what they don't need? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Jenna, I am so very sorry. I know it hurts so much. elizabeth On 3/29/07, Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I joined this list because my kitty died on Sunday from feline lukemia she also had feline hiv. She was a stray I adopted two years ago, and when I first adopted her I tested her and she came back negative. I think she contracted it before I adopted her, and I have kept her up to date on all her shots. It has been very very hard for me. I don't know if I will ever heal. I miss having her around, am wondering if I can ever have another kitty. I would make sure if I adopted they would be negative and have all their shots and not be a stray- but I don't know if my apartment will be safe or if it will have the virus still around. How long should I wait? -- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Just found out :(
I just found out my 3 year old indoor only cat Hannah has the leukemia virus! The vet thinks she's had it since birth because I've kept her indoors all of her life and she's the only cat I've ever had. It was a fluke that I even found out, somehow she got worms so I took her to the vet yesterday and they did blood work and told me this disturbing news. She's been healthy and happy all of ther life, never been sick once until the worms. I've been frantically researching the disease on the internet scared to death that she's going to get sick! I read somewhere that the average life expectancy after infection is 4 years. If she's had it since birth that would only be one more year! I love her so much and I can't imagine my life without her. All of the web pages I've looked at are so confusing and contradicting. Please give me any advice you can offer! I would really appreciate it! Kimber - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: Just found out :(
Relax. You've come to the right place. A lot of FeLV+ cats live very long normal lives. What test was used? ELISA? If so, retest with the IFA in a few months. The ELISA has a high false positive rate. Kimber Gieseke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just found out my 3 year old indoor only cat Hannah has the leukemia virus! The vet thinks she's had it since birth because I've kept her indoors all of her life and she's the only cat I've ever had. It was a fluke that I even found out, somehow she got worms so I took her to the vet yesterday and they did blood work and told me this disturbing news. She's been healthy and happy all of ther life, never been sick once until the worms. I've been frantically researching the disease on the internet scared to death that she's going to get sick! I read somewhere that the average life expectancy after infection is 4 years. If she's had it since birth that would only be one more year! I love her so much and I can't imagine my life without her. All of the web pages I've looked at are so confusing and contradicting. Please give me any advice you can offer! I would really appreciate it! Kimber - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: Just found out :(
I know how you feel, I received the same terrible news 3 weeks ago that my two kitties have the virus. If your kitty is healthy right now, she may be lucky and never show the symptoms of the disease. She may just be a carrier and never get sick. Make sure you feed her a healthy diet and keep a close eye on her, because if she ever does show signs of getting sick, it would be a good idea to get her treated by a vet quickly. - Original Message - From: Kimber Gieseke To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Just found out :( I just found out my 3 year old indoor only cat Hannah has the leukemia virus! The vet thinks she's had it since birth because I've kept her indoors all of her life and she's the only cat I've ever had. It was a fluke that I even found out, somehow she got worms so I took her to the vet yesterday and they did blood work and told me this disturbing news. She's been healthy and happy all of ther life, never been sick once until the worms. I've been frantically researching the disease on the internet scared to death that she's going to get sick! I read somewhere that the average life expectancy after infection is 4 years. If she's had it since birth that would only be one more year! I love her so much and I can't imagine my life without her. All of the web pages I've looked at are so confusing and contradicting. Please give me any advice you can offer! I would really appreciate it! Kimber -- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 3/28/2007 4:23 PM
Re: Re: Update on Chief
MC, It's my understanding that if I get the job I can fly free anytime there is avaliable room. So, we can transport kitties on my days off. I'm single with one extreme geriatric kitty and a horse who is soon to be boarded with a good friend. I WANT to travel so bad... :) Look out world, here I come!! Steph From: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/29 Thu PM 08:10:48 EST To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Update on Chief great news on both fronts! (hm. have we mentioned lately how nice it is to have flight attendants who use their passes to help transport special-needs kitties?) MC On 3/29/07, Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well? My parents decided to keep Chief when it came right down to it. So, he's got a good, safe home as an only kitty. :D And, I am interviewing with the airlines to be a flight attendant!! I AM SO EXCITED!!! Steph -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Re: Update on Chief
be careful what you wish for. we just flew a visually impaired kitten from Cleveland to Dallas, TX that way!!! On 3/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MC, It's my understanding that if I get the job I can fly free anytime there is avaliable room. So, we can transport kitties on my days off. I'm single with one extreme geriatric kitty and a horse who is soon to be boarded with a good friend. I WANT to travel so bad... :) Look out world, here I come!! Steph From: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/29 Thu PM 08:10:48 EST To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Update on Chief great news on both fronts! (hm. have we mentioned lately how nice it is to have flight attendants who use their passes to help transport special-needs kitties?) MC On 3/29/07, Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well? My parents decided to keep Chief when it came right down to it. So, he's got a good, safe home as an only kitty. :D And, I am interviewing with the airlines to be a flight attendant!! I AM SO EXCITED!!! Steph -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Just found out :(
Thanks for the advice! I only have fed her nature made for indoor cats since she was born. It's expensive but is said to be good, so i think I'm okay. C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know how you feel, I received the same terrible news 3 weeks ago that my two kitties have the virus. If your kitty is healthy right now, she may be lucky and never show the symptoms of the disease. She may just be a carrier and never get sick. Make sure you feed her a healthy diet and keep a close eye on her, because if she ever does show signs of getting sick, it would be a good idea to get her treated by a vet quickly. - Original Message - From: Kimber Gieseke To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Just found out :( I just found out my 3 year old indoor only cat Hannah has the leukemia virus! The vet thinks she's had it since birth because I've kept her indoors all of her life and she's the only cat I've ever had. It was a fluke that I even found out, somehow she got worms so I took her to the vet yesterday and they did blood work and told me this disturbing news. She's been healthy and happy all of ther life, never been sick once until the worms. I've been frantically researching the disease on the internet scared to death that she's going to get sick! I read somewhere that the average life expectancy after infection is 4 years. If she's had it since birth that would only be one more year! I love her so much and I can't imagine my life without her. All of the web pages I've looked at are so confusing and contradicting. Please give me any advice you can offer! I would really appreciate it! Kimber - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 3/28/2007 4:23 PM - Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.
Re: Just found out :(
It was the ELISA. I read about the false positives and called my vet, she said they did the test twice to make sure but she can send it out if I want. I definately am going to have the IFA done, but I don't want to get my hopes up. Thanks for writing me! Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax. You've come to the right place. A lot of FeLV+ cats live very long normal lives. What test was used? ELISA? If so, retest with the IFA in a few months. The ELISA has a high false positive rate. Kimber Gieseke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just found out my 3 year old indoor only cat Hannah has the leukemia virus! The vet thinks she's had it since birth because I've kept her indoors all of her life and she's the only cat I've ever had. It was a fluke that I even found out, somehow she got worms so I took her to the vet yesterday and they did blood work and told me this disturbing news. She's been healthy and happy all of ther life, never been sick once until the worms. I've been frantically researching the disease on the internet scared to death that she's going to get sick! I read somewhere that the average life expectancy after infection is 4 years. If she's had it since birth that would only be one more year! I love her so much and I can't imagine my life without her. All of the web pages I've looked at are so confusing and contradicting. Please give me any advice you can offer! I would really appreciate it! Kimber - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.
Re: Just found out :(
I'm sorry to here about your kitties. C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know how you feel, I received the same terrible news 3 weeks ago that my two kitties have the virus. If your kitty is healthy right now, she may be lucky and never show the symptoms of the disease. She may just be a carrier and never get sick. Make sure you feed her a healthy diet and keep a close eye on her, because if she ever does show signs of getting sick, it would be a good idea to get her treated by a vet quickly. - Original Message - From: Kimber Gieseke To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Just found out :( I just found out my 3 year old indoor only cat Hannah has the leukemia virus! The vet thinks she's had it since birth because I've kept her indoors all of her life and she's the only cat I've ever had. It was a fluke that I even found out, somehow she got worms so I took her to the vet yesterday and they did blood work and told me this disturbing news. She's been healthy and happy all of ther life, never been sick once until the worms. I've been frantically researching the disease on the internet scared to death that she's going to get sick! I read somewhere that the average life expectancy after infection is 4 years. If she's had it since birth that would only be one more year! I love her so much and I can't imagine my life without her. All of the web pages I've looked at are so confusing and contradicting. Please give me any advice you can offer! I would really appreciate it! Kimber - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 3/28/2007 4:23 PM - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
Re: Just found out :(
Don't get your hopes up that you'll get a negative. You may. You can't rely on the ELISA alone. But realize that a lot of FeLV+ cats have a really good life span. (Someone who adopted a special needs kitten from me had an FeLV+ cat -- who the vet told her to euthanize -- who lived to be at least 13. I had one who tested positive for FIV and FeLV who was around 18 when viral pneumonia finally took her. And a lot of people on this list have had OLD feLV+ cats too.) So don't let a positive rattle you. Feed her well, love her a lot, and she'll live well. Kimber Gieseke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:It was the ELISA. I read about the false positives and called my vet, she said they did the test twice to make sure but she can send it out if I want. I definately am going to have the IFA done, but I don't want to get my hopes up. Thanks for writing me! Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relax. You've come to the right place. A lot of FeLV+ cats live very long normal lives. What test was used? ELISA? If so, retest with the IFA in a few months. The ELISA has a high false positive rate. Kimber Gieseke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just found out my 3 year old indoor only cat Hannah has the leukemia virus! The vet thinks she's had it since birth because I've kept her indoors all of her life and she's the only cat I've ever had. It was a fluke that I even found out, somehow she got worms so I took her to the vet yesterday and they did blood work and told me this disturbing news. She's been healthy and happy all of ther life, never been sick once until the worms. I've been frantically researching the disease on the internet scared to death that she's going to get sick! I read somewhere that the average life expectancy after infection is 4 years. If she's had it since birth that would only be one more year! I love her so much and I can't imagine my life without her. All of the web pages I've looked at are so confusing and contradicting. Please give me any advice you can offer! I would really appreciate it! Kimber - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.
Re: Re: Update on Chief
Keep in mind that some airlines (Southwest for one) do not allow the transport of live animals. Gary - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: Re: Re: Update on Chief MC, It's my understanding that if I get the job I can fly free anytime there is avaliable room. So, we can transport kitties on my days off. I'm single with one extreme geriatric kitty and a horse who is soon to be boarded with a good friend. I WANT to travel so bad... :) Look out world, here I come!! Steph
Re: Re: Update on Chief
true enough... but some do! On 3/30/07, gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that some airlines (Southwest for one) do not allow the transport of live animals. Gary - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: Re: Re: Update on Chief MC, It's my understanding that if I get the job I can fly free anytime there is avaliable room. So, we can transport kitties on my days off. I'm single with one extreme geriatric kitty and a horse who is soon to be boarded with a good friend. I WANT to travel so bad... :) Look out world, here I come!! Steph -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
