Re: Caroline still not eating or drinking
Fish-flavor, liver-flavor and chicken-flavor pedialyte! Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Jun 5, 2007, at 9:47 PM, MaryChristine wrote: well, foster kittens REGULARLY get pediatlyte, and whenever someone is really punk i'll give it--it's just not a big money-maker for vets, so no one's constantly reminding them of it, like the drug companies are with meds? On 6/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and yes, any cat can have an electrolyte imbalance, but giving too many fluids can cause it, definitely. The balance is very delicate. I never really understood why cats and dogs don't get routine electrolyte supplements like all other mammals do when ill or over-worked. Think pedalyte for human babies - gatorade for human adults, they make similar stuff for supplementing livestock (horses) and it's routine to give it after any competition or in illnesses. But cats and dogs don't seem to get these things. I don't understand why not. Maybe there is a reason I am unaware of. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals! -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Caroline still not eating or drinking
Is pedialyte the only brand? Or can we just start a brand! I like the Purr-o-lyte name. How many of us are actively in the group now? We could all be shareholders. Omigod, this is even crazier than the feline lymphoma discussion group trip to Seattle to the vet conference! Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Jun 5, 2007, at 10:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But they could label it specifically for cats, add chicken flavor (or tuna, or milk, etc), etc... it COULD be good money, if it was marketed. Catty-o-lyte. Maybe Purr-a-lyte? I dunno, but it could be done. Easily. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals!
Belinda ...Giardia information
Thanks very much for the research on Giardia. My vet has sent us Panacur as the Metronidazole did not work and she (MeMe) could not tolerate Drontal. We're taking all the recommended precautions to prevent transmission. It is a really difficult one. I appreciate the time you spent on getting us this information. Jane
Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients
I believe, from all the other info out there, that it is the GREEN tomatoes, stems and leaves that are the poisonous parts. The red/ripe tomatoes thet we normally consume and that are used in tomato juice contain only trace amounts of Solanine and are not poisonous. From the ASPCA: http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pro_apcc_ask_peoplefoods_state=tomatoes The green parts of the tomato plant are considered toxic because they contain solanine, which has the potential to produce significant gastrointestinal and central nervous system effects. However ripe tomatoes, the part of the plant typically used in food products, are not toxic. Therefore, we would not expect any poisoning-related issues with the tomato content of your cat food. Here are a few other sites with info on Solanine Tomaotes: http://ntp-server.niehs.nih.gov/index.cfm?objectid=6F5F05AB-F1F6-975E-79F11EF81F6A5475 http://www.whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=georgedbid=62 http://www.floridata.com/ref/l/lyco_lyc.cfm http://www.trustedhands.com/content/id267.html http://www.cfainc.org/articles/plants.html If you can find any other info - NOT taken from the Feline Future stories, I would be very interested in it. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:22:20 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients Then WHY on earth does our liver shake call for TOMATO JUICE?!!?!?! Phaewryn Think I would stick with the carrot juice or leave the veggies out all together. Just my opinion. Tomatoes can be toxic to cats: http://cats.about.com/cs/catfood/a/humanfood.htm Tomatoes, Green (raw Potatoes) These foods are members of the Solanaceae family of plants, which includes the Deadly Nightshade, and contain a bitter, poisonous alkaloid called Glycoalkaloid Solanine, which can cause violent lower gastrointestinal symptoms. The Feline Future web site offers a rare description of a cat which was close to death from ingesting just one cherry tomato. http://site.pawshop.com/blog/archive/2006_08_20_archive.html Tomatoes and tomato plants: Tomatoes of all kinds are toxic to cats, as are parts of the tomato plant. Ingesting as little as a cherry tomato can cause severe gastrointestinal upset. http://www.dietbites.com/Diet-123/dog-cat-foods-to-avoid.html Tomatoes - May cause heart disturbances. http://www.petshealth.com/dr_library/cattox.html#t -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ...
Re: Belinda ...Giardia information
FYI, I started using Panacur late last year, I think it was, with a couple of kitties with loose stool and l really ilke it. I didn't have any problem with transmission. Didn't do anything extraordinary, just kept the litter boxes clean. Gloria On Jun 6, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Jane Lyons wrote: Thanks very much for the research on Giardia. My vet has sent us Panacur as the Metronidazole did not work and she (MeMe) could not tolerate Drontal. We're taking all the recommended precautions to prevent transmission. It is a really difficult one. I appreciate the time you spent on getting us this information. Jane
FortiFlora
Phaewryn, I think you are right about the success of FortiFlora having to do with the fact that cats actually like it and eat it. My vet is suspicious of anything out of Purina, but thinks that they got this one right. A friend found it on line for $16.00 a box (of 30 packets) with an $8.00 shipping rate. She ordered several boxes to reduce the price per box. She's counting on the 'money back guarantee', as her vet was also high on it. I'll post the site here (she is traveling) when I get it. I am hoping that it is helping MeMe's stomatitis. It is impossible to really examine her gums but her bad breath is really so much better. Jane
Kisa
Cassandra, thinking of you and Kisa. Hoping that you had a good night. Jane
Re: Update on my rescued amish babies...
I am hoping that is true Phaewryn...the mom is a wonderful kitty...just shy at first but she will need someone to love her forever...not a sanctuary... Sheryl --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, yes, that is good, FIV is not as bad as FELV, and even cats with FIV are getting easier to place due to good education efforts by the FIV community. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals! Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
Re: Belinda ...Giardia information
Jane, I just hope she can get over the giardia without too much problem. Prayers for it to work right away and MeMe to start feeling better. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients
I've never seen a green cherry tomato, but that aside *and this is my opinion only* why tempt fate when dealing with an already compromised immune system. Yes it may be safe for most cats, even positive cats, but I would die if *my cat* was the one cat it wasn't safe for. It just isn't worth it to me when it can be left out. *To be honest with you I will always wonder if Bailey didn't get sick because of the raw food I was feeding him*, yes he did very well for about 6 months, got chubby, seemed to feel good but then he got very sick and and less than 6 months later was gone. He had *NEVER* been sick in all his 11 years before that, so was it just a coincidence ... possibly, but I will NEVER know for sure and I will never feed raw again, just in case. I believe, from all the other info out there, that it is the GREEN tomatoes, stems and leaves that are the poisonous parts. The red/ripe tomatoes thet we normally consume and that are used in tomato juice contain only trace amounts of Solanine and are not poisonous. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: FortiFlora
I ordered the FlortiFlora from another site--I'd be interested in the $16.00 price--much better! Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: FortiFlora Phaewryn, I think you are right about the success of FortiFlora having to do with the fact that cats actually like it and eat it. My vet is suspicious of anything out of Purina, but thinks that they got this one right. A friend found it on line for $16.00 a box (of 30 packets) with an $8.00 shipping rate. She ordered several boxes to reduce the price per box. She's counting on the 'money back guarantee', as her vet was also high on it. I'll post the site here (she is traveling) when I get it. I am hoping that it is helping MeMe's stomatitis. It is impossible to really examine her gums but her bad breath is really so much better. Jane
RE: Caroline still not eating or drinking
Sounds like a plan-we could get rich, quit our jobs, and dedicate all our time and money to our fur babies, and maybe our human families on the side :-) Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taylor Scobie Humphrey Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Caroline still not eating or drinking Is pedialyte the only brand? Or can we just start a brand! I like the Purr-o-lyte name. How many of us are actively in the group now? We could all be shareholders. Omigod, this is even crazier than the feline lymphoma discussion group trip to Seattle to the vet conference! Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Jun 5, 2007, at 10:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But they could label it specifically for cats, add chicken flavor (or tuna, or milk, etc), etc... it COULD be good money, if it was marketed. Catty-o-lyte. Maybe Purr-a-lyte? I dunno, but it could be done. Easily. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals!
RE: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Ha Ha! I've never had a cat stuck to the carpet either-but frequently to the screen door. They panic a little when they see me come to rescue them off the screen since they know they're not supposed to be scratching at it anyway! Those flies are so tempting! Even though I have a few scratch marks on our screen door-we've got no flies in the house! (Is it dangerous for the cats to eat the flies?) Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned. Your cats get STUCK to the carpet? Bizarre! I never trim claws here (I'm morally opposed to the idea) unless there's a medical necessity, and I can honestly say my cats have NEVER gotten stuck to the carpet. I have occasionally seen one get stuck on the side of the sofa while scratching it, but even that is rare. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals!
To Cassandra and Kisa
Cassandra and Kisa: You two are in my thoughts today! Hope all is well and Kisa is eating more! Melissa
Re: FortiFlora
I found it at Calvet Supply for 65 cents a gram packet, so 30 packets works out to be 19.50 plus 4.25 postal shipping. Can't find the $16.00/$8.00 price anywhere, but the Calvet Supply price is about the same. http://www.calvetsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=1252 -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients
Belinda, I hear you, and understand where you're coming from. Raw feeding can be tricky, especially for our positives, because it's easy to be unbalanced. A great resource (online) for me has been the HolistiCat Forum - http://www.holisticat.com/ Besides raw, they share recipes for cooked and have discussions about the better commercial foods as well as pre-made frozen raw, etc. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Belinda wrote: I've never seen a green cherry tomato, but that aside *and this is my opinion only* why tempt fate when dealing with an already compromised immune system. Yes it may be safe for most cats, even positive cats, but I would die if *my cat* was the one cat it wasn't safe for. It just isn't worth it to me when it can be left out. *To be honest with you I will always wonder if Bailey didn't get sick because of the raw food I was feeding him*, yes he did very well for about 6 months, got chubby, seemed to feel good but then he got very sick and and less than 6 months later was gone. He had *NEVER* been sick in all his 11 years before that, so was it just a coincidence ... possibly, but I will NEVER know for sure and I will never feed raw again, just in case.
Re: FortiFlora
Just ordered mine. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients
Thanks Kat, I just joined :) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
you're morally opposed to TRIMMING claws, dear? explain, please. (thinking that i would long ago have bled to death--not to mention having had to pay enormous vet bills for ingrown claws).. On 6/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your cats get STUCK to the carpet? Bizarre! I never trim claws here (I'm morally opposed to the idea) unless there's a medical necessity, and I can honestly say my cats have NEVER gotten stuck to the carpet. I have occasionally seen one get stuck on the side of the sofa while scratching it, but even that is rare. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals! -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
link for FortiFlora
http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/product_detail.asp? pf%5Fid=30153417dept%5Fid=5brand%5Fid=885mscssid=8VLQ49G57W198N3SDFLV K5Q1B5KSBXN9 It is 18.00, not 16.00 I really have not been using it long enough to recommend it, but the vet I use has had very good results. to be continued Jane
Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Actually I have never had to trim claws either, my guys are pretty good about using there cardboard scratchy posts, or the wood steps outside. No in grown nails here :) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
OT - FDA investigating pain killer found in pet food
Here we go...again Full story:http://www.itchmo.com/read/texas-lab-finds-acetaminophen-in-pet-food_20070605ExperTox, a Texas lab, found acetaminophen (a fifth possible contaminant) in at least five samples of pet food that were submitted by pet owners and pet manufacturers. The medication was mostly found with cyanuric acid, and hundreds of other samples that were sent in tested positive for melamine. The contaminants were found in pet foods that have not been recalled.ExperTox said that the highest level of acetaminophen was found in a dog food sample submitted by a pet food manufacturer, but the lab is not identifying the company. The FDA is now investigating the findings from the lab and a FDA spokesperson says that: what's significant is these things are there. They don't belong there. _ Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! Check out the New MSN Mobile! http://mobile.msn.com
Re: was - Update on Kisa, now raw feeding
I started feeding raw about 2 months ago, and now i'm having some second thoughts. I'm just not sure about it yet. It sounds so much healthier, and i'm hoping my two older, fatter cats will lose some weight on the raw. Most of my cats love the food more than they ever liked canned/dry, but then I read about Salmonella and intestinal parasites that could be in raw. Plus Koda died a month ago of organ failure due to unknown causes. She was old and diabetic, but I have that lingering uncertainty that possibly the raw food may have harmed her. I'm still trying to read more info on the raw, but it is the same as everything else, you have people strongly for or against it, both with good arguments. I just want to do what is healthiest for my babies. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Belinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:50 AM Subject: Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients I've never seen a green cherry tomato, but that aside and this is my opinion only why tempt fate when dealing with an already compromised immune system. Yes it may be safe for most cats, even positive cats, but I would die if my cat was the one cat it wasn't safe for. It just isn't worth it to me when it can be left out. To be honest with you I will always wonder if Bailey didn't get sick because of the raw food I was feeding him, yes he did very well for about 6 months, got chubby, seemed to feel good but then he got very sick and and less than 6 months later was gone. He had NEVER been sick in all his 11 years before that, so was it just a coincidence ... possibly, but I will NEVER know for sure and I will never feed raw again, just in case. I believe, from all the other info out there, that it is the GREEN tomatoes, stems and leaves that are the poisonous parts. The red/ripe tomatoes thet we normally consume and that are used in tomato juice contain only trace amounts of Solanine and are not poisonous.-- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM
Re: Kisa
Thank you. It is very slow, but Kisa is getting a bit stronger everyday. How is MeMe doing now with the new meds for Giardia? Cassandra - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:42 AM Subject: Kisa Cassandra, thinking of you and Kisa. Hoping that you had a good night. Jane -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM
Re: To Cassandra and Kisa
Thank you. So far so good. Kisa is eating mainly felidae canned right now, though she only eats when I hand feed her. When I try the foods she ate before she got sick, she shows an aversion to them now, even to the Tempations treats she absolutely loved before. She still wants to hide under the bed all day, and her lips/gums are very pale, but she is getting a little bit stronger each day. Hopefully she can get more of those red blood cells back into circulation soon. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: To Cassandra and Kisa Cassandra and Kisa: You two are in my thoughts today! Hope all is well and Kisa is eating more! Melissa -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM
Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients
Do you have to pay to read the HolistiCat forum? Cassandra - Original Message - From: Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients Belinda, I hear you, and understand where you're coming from. Raw feeding can be tricky, especially for our positives, because it's easy to be unbalanced. A great resource (online) for me has been the HolistiCat Forum - http://www.holisticat.com/ Besides raw, they share recipes for cooked and have discussions about the better commercial foods as well as pre-made frozen raw, etc. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Belinda wrote: I've never seen a green cherry tomato, but that aside *and this is my opinion only* why tempt fate when dealing with an already compromised immune system. Yes it may be safe for most cats, even positive cats, but I would die if *my cat* was the one cat it wasn't safe for. It just isn't worth it to me when it can be left out. *To be honest with you I will always wonder if Bailey didn't get sick because of the raw food I was feeding him*, yes he did very well for about 6 months, got chubby, seemed to feel good but then he got very sick and and less than 6 months later was gone. He had *NEVER* been sick in all his 11 years before that, so was it just a coincidence ... possibly, but I will NEVER know for sure and I will never feed raw again, just in case. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM
RE: To Cassandra and Kisa
Good news! Happy thoughts for Kisa! As for feeding the raw food-I don't think I could do it. I won't cook my husband steaks or hamburger that are pinkish just because of the parasite issue (I don't any meat or fish-but he and the fur kids do). Of course I've been told that it's much worse in chicken and pork anyway-that pork is horrifically loaded with parasites-but that wasn't told to me by an expert. But, I think with all the problems with cat food (and the waste products used in it), I'm going to start making my own-or at least experimenting with it. Does anyone have any ideas about what I could give Bandit to promote urinary health? He takes Science Diet C/D to prevent crystals from forming in his urinary tract/bladder or something like that. So far it's helped tremendously. I don't want to go back to those problems, but I do want to feed him fresher food that I know where it is coming from. Plus his food is so expensive, and I feed it to all the cats for simplicity in feeding arrangements. Are there supplements I can give him to prevent the crystals/neutralize his pee? Sorry this is better suited for the off topic place-I can move there once I get home from work (my home computer checks those messages). Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C J Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: To Cassandra and Kisa Thank you. So far so good. Kisa is eating mainly felidae canned right now, though she only eats when I hand feed her. When I try the foods she ate before she got sick, she shows an aversion to them now, even to the Tempations treats she absolutely loved before. She still wants to hide under the bed all day, and her lips/gums are very pale, but she is getting a little bit stronger each day. Hopefully she can get more of those red blood cells back into circulation soon. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: To Cassandra and Kisa Cassandra and Kisa: You two are in my thoughts today! Hope all is well and Kisa is eating more! Melissa _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM
Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients
You can have a 7 day free trial but you can't post, I just went ahead and joined for the 90 day period and will go from there. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients
Hi Cassandra, This is from the HolistiCat forum: Unregistered users can see broad categories and the topics covered, but must register in order to go further. If you wish to read and/or post, you must first register by choosing a userID and password. Should you ever lose it, you can request it by visiting the Bulletin Board. Please use a working email address because in order for your registration to be complete, it will have to be validated first by the administrators - Jules or Sandy. Be sure you check your Junk folder in case the welcome message doesn't come to you in 3-4 hrs. Once registered and validated, you can choose to be a: Trial user - If your check has not cleared or you haven't yet decided if you wish to be a member and thus have not paid. Trial period is 7 days. During this period, one can read current messages but not post. -OR- Member - Registered for an account, and paid subscription dues. Can read and post messages. If you wish to have access to older posts on our Yahoogroups, feel free to join there (w/ nomail option) until archives get moved over here. If 1 week after registering and being validated, your membership dues have not been received, your account will be deleted. You can come back at a later date, and join us if you wish. So, yes - for FULL access, you have to register the fees is either $25 annually or $10 per quarter, but the info and support is well worth it for me. Besides the food info, there is a wealth of info on homeopathic support and holistic health care. And they are just as committed and caring as the members of this list!! Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, C J wrote: Do you have to pay to read the HolistiCat forum? Cassandra - Original Message - From: Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients Belinda, I hear you, and understand where you're coming from. Raw feeding can be tricky, especially for our positives, because it's easy to be unbalanced. A great resource (online) for me has been the HolistiCat Forum - http://www.holisticat.com/ Besides raw, they share recipes for cooked and have discussions about the better commercial foods as well as pre-made frozen raw, etc. Kat (Mew Jersey)
Re: To Cassandra and Kisa
Just be sure she gets her doxy! Pam C J wrote: Thank you. So far so good. Kisa is eating mainly felidae canned right now, though she only eats when I hand feed her. When I try the foods she ate before she got sick, she shows an aversion to them now, even to the Tempations treats she absolutely loved before. She still wants to hide under the bed all day, and her lips/gums are very pale, but she is getting a little bit stronger each day. Hopefully she can get more of those red blood cells back into circulation soon. Cassandra - Original Message - *From:* Melissa Lind mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:00 AM *Subject:* To Cassandra and Kisa Cassandra and Kisa: You two are in my thoughts today! Hope all is well and Kisa is eating more! Melissa No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM
Re: outdoor enclosures
I can tell you what worked wonderfully for me long before people considered cat enclosures. My father took a 12 foot long chain link dog kennel that was 6 foot wide and 6 foot tall, cut a hole in it very high and fit ductwork into the hole. The cats (Ebony and Mitu) were able to go thru a pet door on the inside of a bathroom window, go thru the ductwork onto a platform then down a ramp. I used an extra piece of chain link for the topper but there are better and easier things available now. This was almost 18 years ago. I am just now having the kennel taken down (I will reuse it on the farm). All of it is in great condition. I put plastic milk boxes and other stuff in it to keep them entertained. They would sleep in the ductwork during the hottest times and really worry me. Now I would have a door to block it off then as well as during cold winter days (heating costs have really gone up). These are easy to put up, strong enough to provide protection to your little friends (dogs, cats, hawks whatever), portable, and generally great. Especially if you put some cat safe plants in there (Dixie has a large goat feeder filled with catnip + cat grass to roll around in the sunroomwhen she gets an outdoor enclosure it will have a small child's wading pool full of such if I can't put the enclosure on grass). A note on thatif you do put the enclosure on dirt, make sure nothing can dig in. (You can tell I've moved back to the country). And don't forget to check on her a lot. I put a padlock on the gate in the city because of kids. I don't know your circumstances but please feel free to ask about this if you think it will meet your needs. Ebony was a feral who decided to live with me (I didn't like cats but he didn't give a %^*((^%% since I had the only central a/c in the neighborhood and the softest heart). He remained indoor/outdoor after he convinced me he was the emperor of my universe until we moved. It was one thing for him to wander the alleys he grew up in. It was another to wander an entirely foreign area. By the time we moved he was around 9 (best guess) and ready to stay in most of the time anyway. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:36 AM Subject: Re: outdoor enclosures MeMe is SUCH a lucky little furchild! Can you do a fence or do you want an enclosure? Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Jun 3, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Jane Lyons wrote: I'm sorry to be constantly asking questions, but hopefully we can get the newness of this diagnosis and all the issues it raises on the right path ... Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for cats that works well. Again, I Googled the category and there are hundreds of choices. I was hoping someone might have experience with a design or quality that works. I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young life on her own because she can climb trees better than squirrels and seems to know her way around the terrain. I need an enclosure that will allow her some measure of freedom and activity. I appreciate any information or leads someone might have. Jane
Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Thank you so much. We are both much better. Phelix's eye looks 110% better and he's not scratching himself like crazy. The vet says it's his allergies -- I need to be better about applying his transdermal compounded benedryl. We have a severe drought here in the south and the air quality is just terrible. We need a good soaking rain to wash all the allergens out of the air for me and Mr. Phelix. elizabeth On 6/5/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you are both feeling better. I usually don't remember to clip claws around here until someone scratches me (accidentally) or get's stuck scratching the sofa! t *elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Phelix was taking care of me today because I home and not feeling well. He's always by my side and took a nap with me. He's the one with allergies that was born with only one eye. He's been scratching a lot lately and I woke up and looked at him and he couldn't open his eye! And there was blood. I nearly panicked. I didn't care how bad I felt - I was getting that boy to the doctor. By the time we got there - he was looking a lot better and looking around - no bleeding - but I was so worried and I really need to protect his one good eye. They examined it and put drops in and looked to make sure he hadn't scratched his cornea. They also checked his ears - they look good...and checked for fleas (he doesn't have any). The vet thinks that when Phelix was scratching, his dew claw caught his eye and ripped through the bottom eyelid. They trimmed those for me and gave him a steroid shot because he's really been itchy lately (his tummy is bald but his ears have really been itchy). They gave him some salve for me to use in his eye 2-3 times a day -- it just says 'BNP-HC ophth. ointment'. It has an antibiotic and a steroid in it. Since Phelix's ears are so itchy, we're going to do the tresoderm a few days too just to be extra sure. I feel bad because I'm not very good about keeping toenails trimmedbut I sure will from now on! Thank goodness I was home when that happened. It looks much, much better now and Phelix keeps telling me it was no big deal. Just thought I'd pass that along in case it would help someone else. Phelix thinks it is his god-given right to go outside everyday when I get home and roll in the lavender. He'll let me know if I'm not fast enough letting him out. Today when I took him in the girls kept saying --- Phelix smells like lavender!! :0) He's such a ladies man. All good thoughts to you and your fur babies. elizabeth
Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
He's a happy boy right now :0) I picked up a nice pair of toe nail clippers for the kids today. Getting them to be still with no one to help is going to be an adventure for all of us! elizabeth On 6/5/07, Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OH, POOR PHELIX! And poor you! It's awful to feel guilty so don't do that! Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Jun 4, 2007, at 10:03 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Phelix was taking care of me today because I home and not feeling well. He's always by my side and took a nap with me. He's the one with allergies that was born with only one eye. He's been scratching a lot lately and I woke up and looked at him and he couldn't open his eye! And there was blood. I nearly panicked. I didn't care how bad I felt - I was getting that boy to the doctor. By the time we got there - he was looking a lot better and looking around - no bleeding - but I was so worried and I really need to protect his one good eye. They examined it and put drops in and looked to make sure he hadn't scratched his cornea. They also checked his ears - they look good...and checked for fleas (he doesn't have any). The vet thinks that when Phelix was scratching, his dew claw caught his eye and ripped through the bottom eyelid. They trimmed those for me and gave him a steroid shot because he's really been itchy lately (his tummy is bald but his ears have really been itchy). They gave him some salve for me to use in his eye 2-3 times a day -- it just says 'BNP-HC ophth. ointment'. It has an antibiotic and a steroid in it. Since Phelix's ears are so itchy, we're going to do the tresoderm a few days too just to be extra sure. I feel bad because I'm not very good about keeping toenails trimmedbut I sure will from now on! Thank goodness I was home when that happened. It looks much, much better now and Phelix keeps telling me it was no big deal. Just thought I'd pass that along in case it would help someone else. Phelix thinks it is his god-given right to go outside everyday when I get home and roll in the lavender. He'll let me know if I'm not fast enough letting him out. Today when I took him in the girls kept saying --- Phelix smells like lavender!! :0) He's such a ladies man. All good thoughts to you and your fur babies. elizabeth
Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
We have a bit of sibling rivalry here and it can get out of hand from time to time. Always scares me when the boys play rough. I hope Bandit is doing better, Melissa. Please give him a kiss for me. elizabeth On 6/5/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elizabeth, What a cute story about the lavender! I'm glad you included this information—I'm so bad at trying to clip their claws, and I really need to—poor Bandit (our 10 yr. old) got swiped the other day and it drew a little blood by his nose—poor guy—he never wants to really fight hard, just wrestle around a little, but the little fur kids sometimes don't understand. Melissa -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *elizabeth trent *Sent:* Monday, June 04, 2007 10:03 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* OT - Phelix...and lessons learned. Phelix was taking care of me today because I home and not feeling well. He's always by my side and took a nap with me. He's the one with allergies that was born with only one eye. He's been scratching a lot lately and I woke up and looked at him and he couldn't open his eye! And there was blood. I nearly panicked. I didn't care how bad I felt - I was getting that boy to the doctor. By the time we got there - he was looking a lot better and looking around - no bleeding - but I was so worried and I really need to protect his one good eye. They examined it and put drops in and looked to make sure he hadn't scratched his cornea. They also checked his ears - they look good...and checked for fleas (he doesn't have any). The vet thinks that when Phelix was scratching, his dew claw caught his eye and ripped through the bottom eyelid. They trimmed those for me and gave him a steroid shot because he's really been itchy lately (his tummy is bald but his ears have really been itchy). They gave him some salve for me to use in his eye 2-3 times a day -- it just says 'BNP-HC ophth. ointment'. It has an antibiotic and a steroid in it. Since Phelix's ears are so itchy, we're going to do the tresoderm a few days too just to be extra sure. I feel bad because I'm not very good about keeping toenails trimmedbut I sure will from now on! Thank goodness I was home when that happened. It looks much, much better now and Phelix keeps telling me it was no big deal. Just thought I'd pass that along in case it would help someone else. Phelix thinks it is his god-given right to go outside everyday when I get home and roll in the lavender. He'll let me know if I'm not fast enough letting him out. Today when I took him in the girls kept saying --- Phelix smells like lavender!! :0) He's such a ladies man. All good thoughts to you and your fur babies. elizabeth
Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Cassandra, I've been bad about keeping up with the list lately but I know you've had a lot going on lately. My heart is with you even though I've been bad about replies. I hope these new clippers will do the trick. If I get in a pinch, I know my neighbor will help me. Love and hugs to you and your babies. elizabeth On 6/5/07, C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope Phelix is doing well. I find that dew claw the worst to cut, its hard to get ahold of, and difficult to get the right angle on it with the clippers. I find having my husband hold the cats at chest level while I clip is the easiest. I usually only remember to trim their nails when they start getting stuck to the carpet as they walk across it. Cassandra - Original Message - *From:* elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Monday, June 04, 2007 10:03 PM *Subject:* OT - Phelix...and lessons learned. Phelix was taking care of me today because I home and not feeling well. He's always by my side and took a nap with me. He's the one with allergies that was born with only one eye. He's been scratching a lot lately and I woke up and looked at him and he couldn't open his eye! And there was blood. I nearly panicked. I didn't care how bad I felt - I was getting that boy to the doctor. By the time we got there - he was looking a lot better and looking around - no bleeding - but I was so worried and I really need to protect his one good eye. They examined it and put drops in and looked to make sure he hadn't scratched his cornea. They also checked his ears - they look good...and checked for fleas (he doesn't have any). The vet thinks that when Phelix was scratching, his dew claw caught his eye and ripped through the bottom eyelid. They trimmed those for me and gave him a steroid shot because he's really been itchy lately (his tummy is bald but his ears have really been itchy). They gave him some salve for me to use in his eye 2-3 times a day -- it just says 'BNP-HC ophth. ointment'. It has an antibiotic and a steroid in it. Since Phelix's ears are so itchy, we're going to do the tresoderm a few days too just to be extra sure. I feel bad because I'm not very good about keeping toenails trimmedbut I sure will from now on! Thank goodness I was home when that happened. It looks much, much better now and Phelix keeps telling me it was no big deal. Just thought I'd pass that along in case it would help someone else. Phelix thinks it is his god-given right to go outside everyday when I get home and roll in the lavender. He'll let me know if I'm not fast enough letting him out. Today when I took him in the girls kept saying --- Phelix smells like lavender!! :0) He's such a ladies man. All good thoughts to you and your fur babies. elizabeth -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 6/3/2007 12:47 PM
Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Still have the scented laundry, eh? It just blows me away - how creative these guys can be. I just wish I knew something to tell you that would help! It's so hard to get mad at a cat for being a cat too. Almost makes me think it might pay to flip the circuit breaker to the dryer and take off the back and clean off what parts you could get tooor better yet...get a handy friend to do it. I think of all those holes in the drum...places for sneaky pee pee. Just hard to get to. And yes -- before Phelix's incident...I was in bed...hardly felt that I could get up because I'd been up all night the night before fighting for a good breath with this asthma...probably should have gone to ER. I opened my eyes laying there in bed - and saw Phelix's eye and I might as well have levitated out of that bed! That shot of adrenalin restored any breathing trouble I might have been having! LOL My whole world revolves around those babies -- I think I was still wearing half of my pajamas when we showed up at the vet's. He's much, much better -- and I'm eating prednisone like breath mints so I'm bouncing off the walls and getting a ton of work done. Everybody just got a freeze dried shrimp snack so it's happyville over here. elizabeth On 6/5/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elizabeth, I hope you are feeling better today. Isn't it amazing that no matter how bad we feel, we can gather the energy from somewhere when our loved ones need us? I'm glad to hear that Phelix is okay and that it was just a nasty scare. It's so sweet the way the two of you are taking care of each other. Speaking as someone with a urine entrenched dryer situation, I have to say that the scent-association of lavender sounds a hell of a lot more pleasant! Hugs sweetie, Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Phelix was taking care of me today because I home and not feeling well. He's always by my side and took a nap with me. He's the one with allergies that was born with only one eye. He's been scratching a lot lately and I woke up and looked at him and he couldn't open his eye! And there was blood. I nearly panicked. I didn't care how bad I felt - I was getting that boy to the doctor. By the time we got there - he was looking a lot better and looking around - no bleeding - but I was so worried and I really need to protect his one good eye. They examined it and put drops in and looked to make sure he hadn't scratched his cornea. They also checked his ears - they look good...and checked for fleas (he doesn't have any). The vet thinks that when Phelix was scratching, his dew claw caught his eye and ripped through the bottom eyelid. They trimmed those for me and gave him a steroid shot because he's really been itchy lately (his tummy is bald but his ears have really been itchy). They gave him some salve for me to use in his eye 2-3 times a day -- it just says 'BNP-HC ophth. ointment'. It has an antibiotic and a steroid in it. Since Phelix's ears are so itchy, we're going to do the tresoderm a few days too just to be extra sure. I feel bad because I'm not very good about keeping toenails trimmedbut I sure will from now on! Thank goodness I was home when that happened. It looks much, much better now and Phelix keeps telling me it was no big deal. Just thought I'd pass that along in case it would help someone else. Phelix thinks it is his god-given right to go outside everyday when I get home and roll in the lavender. He'll let me know if I'm not fast enough letting him out. Today when I took him in the girls kept saying --- Phelix smells like lavender!! :0) He's such a ladies man. All good thoughts to you and your fur babies. elizabeth
Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
I can relate, Phaewryn. Never thought of the soft paws as a solution -- not a bad idea. I worry so about those sores -- Phelix has such a bald tummy and doesn't miss the inside of his back legs either. I just want him to be comfortablebut I worry when he starts chewing. He's rubbed a few places raw. I know he truly itches a lot -- and I've tried so many things...but I do wonder if there isn't a compulsive component to the behavior. Habits are so hard to break. Still...I'm so afraid that any drug that would modify a compulsive behavior might have an effect on his purrrfect personality. I need to do a better job of staying on top of things to keep him as symptom-free as possible. elizabeth On 6/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a fairly typical antibiotic/steroid eye ointment. Sounds logical to me. I have an itchy boy here too, he digs bleeding sores all over his body. It's not bad yet this year, we are hoping it wont flare up as more plants begin to bloom in summer. I'm considering soft paws for his back paws, so he can't do so much self-damage this year if it does flare up. The problem is that he is very independent, and I will probably have to take him to the vet to get them installed as he's not the cat to try to mess with if it's not his idea to be messed with (and I have the scars to prove it). Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303http://www.igive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals!
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It's very dangerous for the flies -- this I do know Haha. They love their moths too, Melissa :0) The treasured ancient llama sweater is a favorite 'get stuck' place here...along with curtains and the blankets hanging off the bed. I had a man here at the house yesterday looking over the outside of my house for repairs. I'm replacing ALL the windows in my house. Every one of my screens has holes put there by my dear fur family. I asked him about getting windows that open from the top (or screens that aren't so flimsy I could push a hole in them with my fingernail). He really didn't get it until I started pointing to the evidence (i.e. -- big shredded holes). I even asked if we could install the windows upside down! (The windows have to be replaced for reasons other than my poor shredded screens...but I want this to be a consideration). He's going to research the options for me and give me an itemized list of options in about a week. I'm still thinking about what Phaewryn said about chicken wire over the windows... I wish I had a big window seat in every window for the babies. I think I have about 12-15 bird feeders of various types and a wonderful variety of birds. I keep a copy of Sibley's handy --- it's cat tv. It gives them hours of entertainment. elizabeth On 6/6/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha Ha! I've never had a cat stuck to the carpet either—but frequently to the screen door. They panic a little when they see me come to rescue them off the screen since they know they're not supposed to be scratching at it anyway! Those flies are so tempting! Even though I have a few scratch marks on our screen door—we've got no flies in the house! (Is it dangerous for the cats to eat the flies?) Melissa -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:31 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned. Your cats get STUCK to the carpet? Bizarre! I never trim claws here (I'm morally opposed to the idea) unless there's a medical necessity, and I can honestly say my cats have NEVER gotten stuck to the carpet. I have occasionally seen one get stuck on the side of the sofa while scratching it, but even that is rare. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303http://www.igive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals!
Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Hey MC...I may be morally opposed after I try it once ;0) Pass the bandaids... Half of my furniture is cat furniture. The wonderful thing is they seem to know where it's ok to sharpen and where it isn't (at least when I'm here LOL) elizabeth On 6/6/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you're morally opposed to TRIMMING claws, dear? explain, please. (thinking that i would long ago have bled to death--not to mention having had to pay enormous vet bills for ingrown claws).. On 6/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your cats get STUCK to the carpet? Bizarre! I never trim claws here (I'm morally opposed to the idea) unless there's a medical necessity, and I can honestly say my cats have NEVER gotten stuck to the carpet. I have occasionally seen one get stuck on the side of the sofa while scratching it, but even that is rare. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303http://www.igive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals! -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Sasquatch Please add to the CLS :(
This sweet gray handsome boy will be missed by all the volunteers at Sids.Dr. Jen had to let him go with dignity today.Thank you all for being here. Sherry - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Re: Sasquatch Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I am so sorry you had to say goodbye to Sasquatch. Thank you for letting him go with dignity and for caring so much for him. You have a beautiful heart. Love to you, elizabeth On 6/6/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sweet gray handsome boy will be missed by all the volunteers at Sids.Dr. Jen had to let him go with dignity today.Thank you all for being here. Sherry -- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48255/*http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/_ylc=X3oDMTI5MGx2aThyBF9TAzIxMTU1MDAzNTIEX3MDMzk2NTQ1MTAzBHNlYwNCQUJwaWxsYXJfTklfMzYwBHNsawNQcm9kdWN0X3F1ZXN0aW9uX3BhZ2U-?link=listsid=396545433from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Poor Scooter :-/ It's so frustrating when they itch like that -- you just want them to be comfortable. We've tried everything trying to figure out the cause of Phelix's allergies - to no avail. Thank you for the kind wishes, Beth. Happy, peaceful, itch-free days to you guys. Please give Scooter a kiss from me. elizabeth On 6/6/07, Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, haven't been on list much lately but I wanted to chime in about the soft paws. I have an itchy boy here, (Scooter, food allergies) and I still have to e-collar him even with the soft-paws on his back feet. If I take the collar off he kicks his head right open. Also, he likes to chew the caps off. I am so against declawing, but might be desperate enough to have a rear-declaw done on him someday if I can't figure out what's making him itch... Elizabeth, I'm glad that Phelix's eye is going to be ok, and I hope the Benadryl will help him again. And I hope you get some rain to ease your breathing too (although the burst of energy from the pred sounds nice!) Take care, Beth On 6/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a fairly typical antibiotic/steroid eye ointment. Sounds logical to me. I have an itchy boy here too, he digs bleeding sores all over his body. It's not bad yet this year, we are hoping it wont flare up as more plants begin to bloom in summer. I'm considering soft paws for his back paws, so he can't do so much self-damage this year if it does flare up. The problem is that he is very independent, and I will probably have to take him to the vet to get them installed as he's not the cat to try to mess with if it's not his idea to be messed with (and I have the scars to prove it). Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303http://www.igive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals!
Re: Sasquatch Please add to the CLS :(
At 06:36 PM 6/6/2007, you wrote: I am so sorry Sasquatch had to leave, but so glad he was surrounded with those that loved him. I am so sorry Kelly This sweet gray handsome boy will be missed by all the volunteers at Sids.Dr. Jen had to let him go with dignity today.Thank you all for being here. Sherry Be a better Heartthrob. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48255/*http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/_ylc=X3oDMTI5MGx2aThyBF9TAzIxMTU1MDAzNTIEX3MDMzk2NTQ1MTAzBHNlYwNCQUJwaWxsYXJfTklfMzYwBHNsawNQcm9kdWN0X3F1ZXN0aW9uX3BhZ2U-?link=listsid=396545433Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM
RE: Sasquatch Please add to the CLS :(
I've not been able to be on the list for a while but I too wanted to say I'm so very sorry to hear about your sweet Sasquatch and thank you for all you do Sherry. You're an angel. love and hugs, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:37 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: Sasquatch Please add to the CLS :( This sweet gray handsome boy will be missed by all the volunteers at Sids.Dr. Jen had to let him go with dignity today.Thank you all for being here. Sherry _ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48255/*http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/_ylc=X3o DMTI5MGx2aThyBF9TAzIxMTU1MDAzNTIEX3MDMzk2NTQ1MTAzBHNlYwNCQUJwaWxsYXJfTkl fMzYwBHNsawNQcm9kdWN0X3F1ZXN0aW9uX3BhZ2U-?link=listsid=396545433 from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
my thoughts are with you all
Wanted to say to all the wonderful folks on the list that although I'm unable to participate much these days, my heart and thoughts are always with you. You are the most special group of people I've ever had the privilege of meeting. (I include Michelle (Lerner) here, who I think is still unsubscribed and will copy this to her separately.) My condolences as always to all those that have lost a furbabe, and my heartfelt wishes for a speedy and full recovery to those that are sick. much love and big hugs to you all, Kerry M. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: my thoughts are with you all
The same goes to you Kerry,thank YOU too, Sherry MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanted to say to all the wonderful folks on the list that although I'm unable to participate much these days, my heart and thoughts are always with you. You are the most special group of people I've ever had the privilege of meeting. (I include Michelle (Lerner) here, who I think is still unsubscribed and will copy this to her separately.) My condolences as always to all those that have lost a furbabe, and my heartfelt wishes for a speedy and full recovery to those that are sick. much love and big hugs to you all, Kerry M. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Yeah, no kidding. I always have scratches somewhere. I'm always using Neosporin on some part of my bod! Especially as the triplets are still growing and getting new ideas about what they can (as much as possible) and cannot do (we can't?). Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Jun 6, 2007, at 9:57 AM, MaryChristine wrote: you're morally opposed to TRIMMING claws, dear? explain, please. (thinking that i would long ago have bled to death--not to mention having had to pay enormous vet bills for ingrown claws).. On 6/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your cats get STUCK to the carpet? Bizarre! I never trim claws here (I'm morally opposed to the idea) unless there's a medical necessity, and I can honestly say my cats have NEVER gotten stuck to the carpet. I have occasionally seen one get stuck on the side of the sofa while scratching it, but even that is rare. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals! -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Sasquatch Please add to the CLS :(
Peace to him and to all who cared for him. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:36 PM Subject: Sasquatch Please add to the CLS :( This sweet gray handsome boy will be missed by all the volunteers at Sids.Dr. Jen had to let him go with dignity today.Thank you all for being here. Sherry -- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients
I'm feeding Dixie Primal raw. Mixed with carrots and broccoli no yet. And she loves it. It comes in cubes, pre-mixed and balanced and easy for those of us who are vegetarian. I mix hers with some bottled water too. It is pretty concentrated and Dixie is accustomed to Fancy Feast and foods like that --- lots of water and not as much real food. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:53 AM Subject: Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients Do you have to pay to read the HolistiCat forum? Cassandra - Original Message - From: Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: was - Update on Kisa, now liver shake ingredients Belinda, I hear you, and understand where you're coming from. Raw feeding can be tricky, especially for our positives, because it's easy to be unbalanced. A great resource (online) for me has been the HolistiCat Forum - http://www.holisticat.com/ Besides raw, they share recipes for cooked and have discussions about the better commercial foods as well as pre-made frozen raw, etc. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Belinda wrote: I've never seen a green cherry tomato, but that aside *and this is my opinion only* why tempt fate when dealing with an already compromised immune system. Yes it may be safe for most cats, even positive cats, but I would die if *my cat* was the one cat it wasn't safe for. It just isn't worth it to me when it can be left out. *To be honest with you I will always wonder if Bailey didn't get sick because of the raw food I was feeding him*, yes he did very well for about 6 months, got chubby, seemed to feel good but then he got very sick and and less than 6 months later was gone. He had *NEVER* been sick in all his 11 years before that, so was it just a coincidence ... possibly, but I will NEVER know for sure and I will never feed raw again, just in case. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM
