Using Interferon

2007-08-30 Thread Laura Keith
Hello all. I've been reading the message board for weeks after I came across 
the sweetest abandoned white, fluffy kitten with one blue eye and one amber 
eye. Since you know I found this message board, you can guess that when I 
brought her to the vet she tested positive for felv with the ELISA test. After 
receiving the crushing news, and not knowing a lot about the disease, my vet 
encourgaed me to do research and to see if I could take care of her so we can 
test her again in three months.
   
  I have another 7 year old cat at home that is negative, so I've been keeping 
them seaparted. At first it was hard, but I have a little routine down now. I 
have learned so much in reading this message board and feel supported by 
reading your stories and sharing in your expereinces. Thank you to everyone. 
I'm actually finding this a little theraputic to finally write and find that 
I'm kind of rambling, so let me focus.
   
  I've been giving Grace daily medicine, liquid Interferon and powdered 
L-Lysine. I was feeling really good about this until I realized that the 
Interferon needs to be refrigerated. I feel foolish for even admitting that I 
didn't put it in the refrigerator after I received it. After all, the 
Interferon was delivered in the mail with an ice pack!  I think I know the 
answer, but have the weeks of administering the unrefrigerated Interferon been 
pointless? I plan on calling my vet tomorrow to have her call in another 
perscription for Grace. I guess since it's so late right now, I'm turning to 
the board.
   
  Thank you!
  Laura

   
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Re: Nova Please add to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Marylyn
I am so sorry.   






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry DeHaan 
  To: Felvtalk 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:01 PM
  Subject: Nova Please add to the CLS


  Well poor Nova has now crossed the bridge.will this aweful disease ever 
cured? Only in our dreams. :(
  Jen sent out an e-mail to all the volunteers tonight about Genevieve and 
Nova.I am getting many e-mails from all the wonderful volunteers that knew how 
much I loved my VitterVits


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Re: 1 YEAR!!

2007-08-30 Thread Marylyn
Send the photo.  But with a nice note.  It might make the vet reconsider and 
help another little cat.

Way to go!!!  Congratulations Crackers!!






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exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:38 AM
  Subject: 1 YEAR!!


  Hi everyone! I haven't been on in awhile but I use to post! My cat Crackers 
is FELV POS Found out 1 yr ago. His 1 yr anniversary of being positive. In the 
last year he has only had 1 eye infection 11 months ago.and has gained 3 1/2 
lbs making him a whooping 22lbs now. He is happy healthy and enjoying life with 
his new brother Blue (8 month American Bulldog) We got him at 9 weeks old. 
Having Blue to play with has been a wonderful experience in Crackers life. They 
play together,eat and sleep together. Just wanted to share the great news and 
THANK everyone again for all the great advice and info I got last year when I 
was going crazy! You guys are the best. And my devilish side wants to so bad 
send his EX Vet Crackers pix and say this is the Baby doll you wanted to put to 
sleep last year with no illness signs just the diagnois of being FELV Pos. Much 
love and Happiness to everyone!
  Kayte and Crackers





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Re: Using Interferon

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Dubose
Hi Laura,

Iamsorry that your kitten is felv+, but I am so glad that she has 
you...  :)

Yes, you certainly have come to the right place for advice and just to network 
if need be.

As far as the interferon, I would probably just buy more, but yes, ask your vet 
to be sure.

Good luck  keep us posted, let us know what he says about the interferon also.

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: Laura Keith 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:49 AM
  Subject: Using Interferon


  Hello all. I've been reading the message board for weeks after I came across 
the sweetest abandoned white, fluffy kitten with one blue eye and one amber 
eye. Since you know I found this message board, you can guess that when I 
brought her to the vet she tested positive for felv with the ELISA test. After 
receiving the crushing news, and not knowing a lot about the disease, my vet 
encourgaed me to do research and to see if I could take care of her so we can 
test her again in three months.

  I have another 7 year old cat at home that is negative, so I've been keeping 
them seaparted. At first it was hard, but I have a little routine down now. I 
have learned so much in reading this message board and feel supported by 
reading your stories and sharing in your expereinces. Thank you to everyone. 
I'm actually finding this a little theraputic to finally write and find that 
I'm kind of rambling, so let me focus.

  I've been giving Grace daily medicine, liquid Interferon and powdered 
L-Lysine. I was feeling really good about this until I realized that the 
Interferon needs to be refrigerated. I feel foolish for even admitting that I 
didn't put it in the refrigerator after I received it. After all, the 
Interferon was delivered in the mail with an ice pack!  I think I know the 
answer, but have the weeks of administering the unrefrigerated Interferon been 
pointless? I plan on calling my vet tomorrow to have her call in another 
perscription for Grace. I guess since it's so late right now, I'm turning to 
the board.

  Thank you!
  Laura


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to Marylyn

2007-08-30 Thread Jane Lyons

Is the name of the product you use for stomatitis called Brush Away?
Can you describe it and tell me where you get it?

I've not been able to clear up two areas on MeMe's upper gum.
I've been giving her First Born and several other immune supplements,  
but

these two areas are difficult.

Thanks
Jane



RE: 1 YEAR!!

2007-08-30 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Kayte, it sounds like Crackers is doing fabulously well -- and I'm glad
he's so happy with Blue.  Congratulations on being such a great
kitty-and-puppy-mommy!
 
Diane R.
 
 
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Quarles  Brady LLP 
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Suite 2040 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: 1 YEAR!!


Hi everyone! I haven't been on in awhile but I use to post! My cat
Crackers is FELV POS Found out 1 yr ago. His 1 yr anniversary of being
positive. In the last year he has only had 1 eye infection 11 months
ago.and has gained 3 1/2 lbs making him a whooping 22lbs now. He is
happy healthy and enjoying life with his new brother Blue (8 month
American Bulldog) We got him at 9 weeks old. Having Blue to play with
has been a wonderful experience in Crackers life. They play together,eat
and sleep together. Just wanted to share the great news and THANK
everyone again for all the great advice and info I got last year when I
was going crazy! You guys are the best. And my devilish side wants to so
bad send his EX Vet Crackers pix and say this is the Baby doll you
wanted to put to sleep last year with no illness signs just the diagnois
of being FELV Pos. Much love and Happiness to everyone!
Kayte and Crackers





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Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Loesch
  Thank you.  Sherpa and Autumn and Jingles have all been ill together - 
and they have, I believe, been a great comfort to each other.  
  

Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Poor dear Jingles.  Sherpa 
and Autumn took great care to be with him on Saturday for you.  I'm so sorry 
that this awful thing happened.   
Consciousness is Causal 
   and Physicality is its
   Manifestation.



On Aug 29, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Susan Loesch wrote:

My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking 
about the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night.  He was 
fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part of this 
week.  He was eating and cuddling up with me then.   Sat. morning I didn't 
bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with Sherpa and Autumn - they all 
looked so comfortable that I just left them.  Was gone most of the day and when 
I went back iin and Jingles was still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him 
up.  His eye looked like it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue 
comiing out and the eye dripping.  The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him 
because he wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation.  I 
sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized.  I have never ever seen 
anything like that.
   
  Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me.  He had gone 
downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was coming to an 
end, but I sure didn't expect this.  He was adopted from a kill shelter by an 
elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk positive.  Then she died and 
I've had him about 5 years.  Such a sweetheart.  
  






Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Loesch
My feleuk babies are MY angels!   Such precious lives - I know everyone 
here feels that way, which is such a comfort when I lose one.  I fear that he 
was in major pain when the eye exploded but it wasn't but a couple of minutes 
after I found him before he was sedated.  
   
  I haven't had a chance to talke with my vet about this yet but definitely 
will. Had seen nothing like that before.
   
  Thanks so much.
  
  

wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
  Susan,
   
  I am so sorry to hear about Jingles.  I hope his passing was an easy one.  It 
was kind of you to let him go.  
   
  I couldn't believe it when I read about what happened to his little eye.  
What in the world do you think it was?  
   
  Again, I am so, so sorry.  How wonderful that you took him in after his 
caregiver died and loved him even knowing he had FeLV and might not be around 
for long.  You're an angel.
   
  :)
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Re: Nova Please add to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Loesch
  Sherry, I am so sorry.  Maybe one day - hopefully in our lifetime - we 
won't have to say goodbye to our precious babies because of this disease.  
  

Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well poor Nova has now crossed the 
bridge.will this aweful disease ever cured? Only in our dreams. :(
  Jen sent out an e-mail to all the volunteers tonight about Genevieve and 
Nova.I am getting many e-mails from all the wonderful volunteers that knew how 
much I loved my VitterVits

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Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Loesch
  Thank you.  What a wonderful way to think about him now.  
  

Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
Sleep soft, dear Jingles...

Dear Susan,
I'm so sorry for your loss. But I am sure your sweet little boy is now
looking down on you with both eyes in perfect shape, sending you lots
of kitty love.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, Susan Loesch wrote:

 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:02:04 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Susan Loesch 

 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Please add Jingles to the CLS
 
 My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week
 asking about the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday
 night. He was fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the
 vet the first part of this week. He was eating and cuddling up with
 me then. Sat. morning I didn't bother him when he was curled up in a
 cat bed with Sherpa and Autumn - they all looked so comfortable that I
 just left them. Was gone most of the day and when I went back iin and
 Jingles was still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him up. His
 eye looked like it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue
 comiing out and the eye dripping. The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option
 for him because he wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an
 enucleation. I sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized. 
 I have never ever seen anything like that.
 
 Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me. He had
 gone downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life
 was coming to an end, but I sure didn't expect this. He was adopted
 from a kill shelter by an elderly lady who didn't care that he was
 feleuk positive. Then she died and I've had him about 5 years. Such
 a sweetheart.
 
 





Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Loesch
  Thanks so much.  I am grateful that I was with him at the last and that I 
was able to sedate him quickly.  
  

Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I am so very sorry Susan to 
hear about Jingles.  You were both so lucky to have found each other.  I'm 
sorry your parting was so traumatic.  Best to you and all your other babies.
- Original Message - 
  From: Susan Loesch 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:02 PM
  Subject: Please add Jingles to the CLS
  

  My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking 
about the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night.  He was 
fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part of this 
week.  He was eating and cuddling up with me then.   Sat. morning I didn't 
bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with Sherpa and Autumn - they all 
looked so comfortable that I just left them.  Was gone most of the day and when 
I went back iin and Jingles was still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him 
up.  His eye looked like it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue 
comiing out and the eye dripping.  The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him 
because he wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation.  I 
sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized.  I have never ever seen 
anything like that.
   
  Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me.  He had gone 
downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was coming to an 
end, but I sure didn't expect this.  He was adopted from a kill shelter by an 
elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk positive.  Then she died and 
I've had him about 5 years.  Such a sweetheart.  
  



Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Loesch
  Thanks, Sherry.  And many hugs back to you - I know you are hurting, too, 
with your loss.  
  

Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: susan I am so sorry to hear about 
your Jingles.How aweful for you to see him like that.He was lucky to have 
you.Hugs to you.
  Sherry

Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking 
about the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night.  He was 
fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part of this 
week.  He was eating and cuddling up with me then.   Sat. morning I didn't 
bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with Sherpa and Autumn - they all 
looked so comfortable that I just left them.  Was gone most of the day and when 
I went back iin and Jingles was still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him 
up.  His eye looked like it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue 
comiing out and the eye dripping.  The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him 
because he wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation.  I 
sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized.  I have never ever seen 
anything like that.
   
  Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me.  He had gone 
downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was coming to an 
end, but I sure didn't expect this.  He was adopted from a kill shelter by an 
elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk positive.  Then she died and 
I've had him about 5 years.  Such a sweetheart.  
  


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Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Loesch
  Thanks, Susan.  I is truly horrible.  
  

Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I am so sorry, Susan.
   
  This is just such a horrible disease.
   
   
  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent
   
   
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Susan Loesch 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:02 PM
  Subject: Please add Jingles to the CLS
  

  My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking 
about the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night.  He was 
fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part of this 
week.  He was eating and cuddling up with me then.   Sat. morning I didn't 
bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with Sherpa and Autumn - they all 
looked so comfortable that I just left them.  Was gone most of the day and when 
I went back iin and Jingles was still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him 
up.  His eye looked like it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue 
comiing out and the eye dripping.  The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him 
because he wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation.  I 
sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized.  I have never ever seen 
anything like that.
   
  Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me.  He had gone 
downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was coming to an 
end, but I sure didn't expect this.  He was adopted from a kill shelter by an 
elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk positive.  Then she died and 
I've had him about 5 years.  Such a sweetheart.  
  



Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Loesch
  Thanks, Susan.  I is truly horrible.  
  

Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I am so sorry, Susan.
   
  This is just such a horrible disease.
   
   
  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent
   
   
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Susan Loesch 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:02 PM
  Subject: Please add Jingles to the CLS
  

  My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking 
about the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night.  He was 
fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part of this 
week.  He was eating and cuddling up with me then.   Sat. morning I didn't 
bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with Sherpa and Autumn - they all 
looked so comfortable that I just left them.  Was gone most of the day and when 
I went back iin and Jingles was still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him 
up.  His eye looked like it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue 
comiing out and the eye dripping.  The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him 
because he wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation.  I 
sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized.  I have never ever seen 
anything like that.
   
  Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me.  He had gone 
downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was coming to an 
end, but I sure didn't expect this.  He was adopted from a kill shelter by an 
elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk positive.  Then she died and 
I've had him about 5 years.  Such a sweetheart.  
  



RE: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Loesch
  Thank you, Kerry. Being able to offer him immediate sedation is something 
that ws truly a blessiing.  
  

MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so sorry Susan. 
And I'm so very sorry too that you and Jingles had such a traumatic last time 
together. I'm just glad he was so loved, and that he knew it. It's wonderful 
that he had two such loving homes--that might easily have not been the case. It 
must be comforting that you had the wherewithal and knowhow to at least sedate 
him. Please know you're in my thoughts, hugs, Kerry


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Please add Jingles to the CLS


  
  My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking 
about the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night.  He was 
fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part of this 
week.  He was eating and cuddling up with me then.   Sat. morning I didn't 
bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with Sherpa and Autumn - they all 
looked so comfortable that I just left them.  Was gone most of the day and when 
I went back iin and Jingles was still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him 
up.  His eye looked like it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue 
comiing out and the eye dripping.  The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him 
because he wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation.  I 
sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized.  I have never ever seen 
anything like that.
   
  Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me.  He had gone 
downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was coming to an 
end, but I sure didn't expect this.  He was adopted from a kill shelter by an 
elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk positive.  Then she died and 
I've had him about 5 years.  Such a sweetheart.  
  

   
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RE: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
No you isn't.  (Sorry, had to!)  ;-)
 
Diane R.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:07 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS


Thanks, Susan.  I is truly horrible.



Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I am so sorry, Susan.
 
This is just such a horrible disease.
 
 
Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
http://www.petgirlspetsitting.com/ 
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
http://www.tx.siameserescue.org/ 
www.shadowcats.net http://www.shadowcats.net/ 
  As Cleopatra lay in
state,
   Faithful Bast at her
side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of
soft applause,
   Ever guarding with
sharpened claws.
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Tennent
 
 
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: Susan Loesch
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:02 PM
Subject: Please add Jingles to the CLS

My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking about
the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night.  He was
fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part
of this week.  He was eating and cuddling up with me then.   Sat.
morning I didn't bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with
Sherpa and Autumn - they all looked so comfortable that I just left
them.  Was gone most of the day and when I went back iin and Jingles was
still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him up.  His eye looked like
it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue comiing out and
the eye dripping.  The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him because he
wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation.  I
sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized.  I have never ever
seen anything like that.
 
Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me.  He had gone
downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was
coming to an end, but I sure didn't expect this.  He was adopted from a
kill shelter by an elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk
positive.  Then she died and I've had him about 5 years.  Such a
sweetheart.  



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RE: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Loesch
  That made me laugh!!   I've just turned 60 and I swear I don't see the 
screen like I used to!!!   Or at least that is the excuse I'm using for 
everything these days!!!  
  

Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   No you isn't.  (Sorry, had 
to!)  ;-)
   
  Diane R.

-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:07 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS


  
Thanks, Susan.  I is truly horrible.  
  

Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I am so sorry, Susan.
   
  This is just such a horrible disease.
   
   
  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent
   
   
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Susan Loesch 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:02 PM
  Subject: Please add Jingles to the CLS
  

  My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking 
about the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night.  He was 
fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part of this 
week.  He was eating and cuddling up with me then.   Sat. morning I didn't 
bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with Sherpa and Autumn - they all 
looked so comfortable that I just left them.  Was gone most of the day and when 
I went back iin and Jingles was still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him 
up.  His eye looked like it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue 
comiing out and the eye dripping.  The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him 
because he wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation.  I 
sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized.  I have never ever seen 
anything like that.
   
  Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me.  He had gone 
downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was coming to an 
end, but I sure didn't expect this.  He was adopted from a kill shelter by an 
elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk positive.  Then she died and 
I've had him about 5 years.  Such a sweetheart.  
  


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RE: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Loesch
  Thank you. He was very sweet, very quiet and calm.  A total joy!  
  

Stray Cat Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   P  {  margin:0px;  
padding:0px  }  body  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }I'm so 
sorry! Jingles sounds like a sweet little angel.
 
  
-
  Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:02:04 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Please add Jingles to the CLS
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

  My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking 
about the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night.  He was 
fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part of this 
week.  He was eating and cuddling up with me then.   Sat. morning I didn't 
bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with Sherpa and Autumn - they all 
looked so comfortable that I just left them.  Was gone most of the day and when 
I went back iin and Jingles was still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him 
up.  His eye looked like it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue 
comiing out and the eye dripping.  The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him 
because he wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation.  I 
sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized.  I have never ever seen 
anything like that.
   
  Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me.  He had gone 
downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was coming to an 
end, but I sure didn't expect this.  He was adopted from a kill shelter by an 
elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk positive.  Then she died and 
I've had him about 5 years.  Such a sweetheart.  
  


  
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RE: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I hear ya.  I'm 58 and it's nice to have an excuse when needed ;-)

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:35 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Please add Jingles to the CLS


That made me laugh!!   I've just turned 60 and I swear I don't see the
screen like I used to!!!   Or at least that is the excuse I'm using for
everything these days!!!



Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

No you isn't.  (Sorry, had to!)  ;-)
 
Diane R.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:07 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS


Thanks, Susan.  I is truly horrible.



Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I am so sorry, Susan.
 
This is just such a horrible disease.
 
 
Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
http://www.petgirlspetsitting.com/ 
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
http://www.tx.siameserescue.org/ 
www.shadowcats.net
http://www.shadowcats.net/ 
  As
Cleopatra lay in state,

Faithful Bast at her side did wait,

Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever
guarding with sharpened claws.

Trajan Tennent
 
 
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: Susan Loesch
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:02 PM
Subject: Please add Jingles to the CLS

My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking about
the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night.  He was
fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part
of this week.  He was eating and cuddling up with me then.   Sat.
morning I didn't bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with
Sherpa and Autumn - they all looked so comfortable that I just left
them.  Was gone most of the day and when I went back iin and Jingles was
still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him up.  His eye looked like
it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue comiing out and
the eye dripping.  The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him because he
wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation.  I
sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized.  I have never ever
seen anything like that.
 
Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me.  He had gone
downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was
coming to an end, but I sure didn't expect this.  He was adopted from a
kill shelter by an elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk
positive.  Then she died and I've had him about 5 years.  Such a
sweetheart.  


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RE: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Loesch
  And boy, do I ever need it often!  
  

Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I hear ya.  I'm 58 and 
it's nice to have an excuse when needed ;-)
  
 

-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:35 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Please add Jingles to the CLS


  
That made me laugh!!   I've just turned 60 and I swear I don't see the 
screen like I used to!!!   Or at least that is the excuse I'm using for 
everything these days!!!  
  

Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   No you isn't.  (Sorry, had 
to!)  ;-)
   
  Diane R.

-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:07 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS


  
Thanks, Susan.  I is truly horrible.  
  

Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I am so sorry, Susan.
   
  This is just such a horrible disease.
   
   
  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent
   
   
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Susan Loesch 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:02 PM
  Subject: Please add Jingles to the CLS
  

  My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking 
about the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night.  He was 
fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part of this 
week.  He was eating and cuddling up with me then.   Sat. morning I didn't 
bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with Sherpa and Autumn - they all 
looked so comfortable that I just left them.  Was gone most of the day and when 
I went back iin and Jingles was still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him 
up.  His eye looked like it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue 
comiing out and the eye dripping.  The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him 
because he wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation.  I 
sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized.  I have never ever seen 
anything like that.
   
  Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me.  He had gone 
downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was coming to an 
end, but I sure didn't expect this.  He was adopted from a kill shelter by an 
elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk positive.  Then she died and 
I've had him about 5 years.  Such a sweetheart.  
  


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RE: To Megan: Re: Olive

2007-08-30 Thread glenda Goodman
Megan, You are a very special young lady. I feel very
glad you are able to get the best help possible from
the great people on this list. I see those wheels
turning in your head. You are going to be successful
in what ever you do in life. 
Olive is so lucky to have you fighting for her.
Everyone is going to be wishing the best for your
other two. If by chance they are neg. this is good for
Olive too. There is that small chance she could beat
it. I know this is all very draining on you, but
please focus on your school work so you do not get
behind...Maybe somehow, this could make you even more
functional...sometimes ,under pressure things can kick
in we did not even know we had, to pull us through.
 The best to all of you! Glenda
--- Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess I figured it was NRA, just because that
 seems most likely to me. If 
 she tested positive on the IFA, doesn't that mean
 the infection's spread to 
 her bone marrow, and therefore she can't produce new
 RBCs? The vet didn't tell 
 me which one it was, but I'll ask tomorrow, if he
 even knows.
 
 Olive did have her blood typed, and she's type A,
 fortunately. That's what you 
 were asking, right? The reason her brother Kudzu had
 to give her blood was 
 that there was apparently no blood stored up
 anywhere nearby. This now seems 
 slightly ridiculous to me, what with the vet school
 and all. Surely there 
 would be available blood somewhere in Knoxville or
 the surrounding area. 
 Still, I think Kudzu would've had to have been used
 regardless at the time, 
 because Olive would probably have died within a few
 hours if not for the 
 transfusion. Her packed cell count had gotten down
 to 4.5%.
 
 As for how she's doing today She's still up and
 active, behaving pretty 
 normally. She does seem slightly slower today,
 unfortunately, and the 
 coloration in her pads has gone down. Although, I
 think they may actually look 
 a bit better now than they did earlier today. I
 don't know, it may just be my 
 imagination.
 
 I left a message with my vet today, but
 unfortunately he did not get to talk 
 to the vet school today. He will tomorrow, and we'll
 also be getting my other 
 cats' results back. I'm also trying to get in touch
 with another vet who is 
 supposedly very passionate and will do whatever he
 can to save an animal. This 
 sounds like the type of vet I need, and hopefully I
 will talk to him tomorrow. 
 We'll see.
 
 Please keep Olive in your thoughts. Hopefully she
 will be alright for the next 
 few days, so we can prepare to give her another
 blood transfusion if need be. 
 It seems like we might have to just to get her cell
 count back up, and then we 
 can start giving her meds. I am definitely going to
 push for the 
 haemobartonella meds, and I will ask about
 interferon, too.
 
 Thank you all for your help so far. You give me hope
 when I'm feeling more 
 lost than ever. Keep your fingers crossed that my
 other two turn out to be 
 negative.
 
 -Megan
 
 = Original Message From wendy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
 Hey Megan,
 
 How are you doing tonight?  And how is Olive?  Did
 you find anything else out 
 today?
 
 As far as what type of anemia it is, Belinda is
 right that it probably needs 
 to be typed.  But, no matter what, get her on that
 doxy asap if you can.  
 Hemobart is treatable and it could very easily be
 that.  I'm not sure why you 
 think it's non-regenerative anemia.  Did the vet
 tell you that?  As far as I 
 know, you don't have to do a bone aspirate to find
 out.  My vet looked at 
 whether or not Cricket had reticulocytes in his
 blood when he was anemic.  If 
 there are reticulocytes, then the body is trying to
 make rbc's, and it is 
 regenerative anemia.  Cricket had regenerative, but
 the vet said something 
 about autohemolytic anemia, which means the body is
 killing off the blood 
 cells as they are made.  Whether or not that was
 from hemobart, I'll never 
 know.  When Cricket was sick, the vet never
 mentioned doxycycline or hemobart 
 (or maybe the did the test and said he was
 negative), so I didn't know about 
 the doxy.  Sometimes I wonder if Cricket would still
 be
  here had he been on doxy.  I didn't learn about
 hemobart until it was too 
 late.
 
 If your vet seems like he's willing to learn, and
 you like him, then it's ok 
 to stay with him.  BUT, make sure you still get
 Olive seen at the university 
 as soon as possible.  Olive might be a learning
 experience for your current 
 vet and maybe his experience with her will help save
 someone else's beloved 
 kitty.  However, if you feel he feels Olive's a lost
 cause, run.  Find another 
 vet.  You need someone who will fight for her.  You
 can also show him or share 
 with him the info. you are learning here.  It might
 also help.
 
 You don't have to get the the next transfusion from
 one of your cats, however 
 you will probably have to have Olive blood typed for
 the next one.  I think 
 you can only give cats 

Update on Olive: Not good...

2007-08-30 Thread Megan Heikkinen
Fortunately, the other two are negative. Unfortunately, I don't think Olive is 
going to have much of a chance. The vet told me that her anemia is 
non-regenerative, and this was confirmed by the vet school. Additionally, she 
is much slower this morning, and if I don't get her another transfusion today, 
I don't think she'll last past the night, or at the very latest, through 
tomorrow. I'm starting to suspect that this is a lost cause. My vet put in an 
emergency referral to the vet school, but this will cost me $2000. I simply 
cannot afford that. I have the money at the moment, but I need to save it up.

Part of me thinks that it might just be easier to let her go, but the other 
part of me can't stand to let that happen without giving her a chance. Maybe 
with meds she could be okay, I don't know. Probably not. But maybe; and it's 
that slight possibility that makes me want to do what I can for her. Maybe if 
she is given a fresh start on some new blood, she'll be strong enough that 
meds will actually help her. I kind of doubt this, but like I said, I want to 
do what I can for her. I don't want to just give up. Though at the same time, 
I hate putting her through this She is suffering for the second time 
within a week, and I feel horrible for it. I wonder if I should just let 
nature take its course... Going to the vet again and undergoing sedation and 
another blood transfusion might just wear her out.

I know that, ultimately, it's my own choice as to what I choose to do. I could 
get blood from Juniper, but I hate to put her at risk. I also don't know if it 
would do any real good for Olive, besides perhaps extending her life for 
another week. I think I may just let her rest, although I don't know if I'd 
rather let her go on her own or go the route of euthanasia. I hate to do 
either, and I'm not sure which would be optimal.

I feel so completely lost right now.

= Original Message From glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Megan, You are a very special young lady. I feel very
glad you are able to get the best help possible from
the great people on this list. I see those wheels
turning in your head. You are going to be successful
in what ever you do in life.
Olive is so lucky to have you fighting for her.
Everyone is going to be wishing the best for your
other two. If by chance they are neg. this is good for
Olive too. There is that small chance she could beat
it. I know this is all very draining on you, but
please focus on your school work so you do not get
behind...Maybe somehow, this could make you even more
functional...sometimes ,under pressure things can kick
in we did not even know we had, to pull us through.
 The best to all of you! Glenda
--- Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess I figured it was NRA, just because that
 seems most likely to me. If
 she tested positive on the IFA, doesn't that mean
 the infection's spread to
 her bone marrow, and therefore she can't produce new
 RBCs? The vet didn't tell
 me which one it was, but I'll ask tomorrow, if he
 even knows.

 Olive did have her blood typed, and she's type A,
 fortunately. That's what you
 were asking, right? The reason her brother Kudzu had
 to give her blood was
 that there was apparently no blood stored up
 anywhere nearby. This now seems
 slightly ridiculous to me, what with the vet school
 and all. Surely there
 would be available blood somewhere in Knoxville or
 the surrounding area.
 Still, I think Kudzu would've had to have been used
 regardless at the time,
 because Olive would probably have died within a few
 hours if not for the
 transfusion. Her packed cell count had gotten down
 to 4.5%.

 As for how she's doing today She's still up and
 active, behaving pretty
 normally. She does seem slightly slower today,
 unfortunately, and the
 coloration in her pads has gone down. Although, I
 think they may actually look
 a bit better now than they did earlier today. I
 don't know, it may just be my
 imagination.

 I left a message with my vet today, but
 unfortunately he did not get to talk
 to the vet school today. He will tomorrow, and we'll
 also be getting my other
 cats' results back. I'm also trying to get in touch
 with another vet who is
 supposedly very passionate and will do whatever he
 can to save an animal. This
 sounds like the type of vet I need, and hopefully I
 will talk to him tomorrow.
 We'll see.

 Please keep Olive in your thoughts. Hopefully she
 will be alright for the next
 few days, so we can prepare to give her another
 blood transfusion if need be.
 It seems like we might have to just to get her cell
 count back up, and then we
 can start giving her meds. I am definitely going to
 push for the
 haemobartonella meds, and I will ask about
 interferon, too.

 Thank you all for your help so far. You give me hope
 when I'm feeling more
 lost than ever. Keep your fingers crossed that my
 other two turn out to be
 negative.

 -Megan

 = Original Message From wendy
 [EMAIL 

RE: Update on Olive: Not good...

2007-08-30 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I'm so sorry, Megan.  It's always hard, and everybody on this list is
painfully aware that as much as none of us WANTS money to be a
consideration, in fact it VERY often is.  I can't give words of wisdom
here on what to do about nature vs. euthanasia, but I guess the
guideline is, if she's suffering help her along.  It's the final
kindness we can give them, not to let them suffer.  If you don't think
she's in pain or distress, and is likely just to fade peacefully, then
maybe nature's way is best -- I just wouldn't leave her by herself if
possible.  You might want to get some Feliway or Rescue Remedy, which
has a calming effect.   

I'm glad the other two are negative.

Diane R.
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Megan
Heikkinen
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:42 AM
To: felvtalk
Subject: Update on Olive: Not good...

Fortunately, the other two are negative. Unfortunately, I don't think
Olive is 
going to have much of a chance. The vet told me that her anemia is 
non-regenerative, and this was confirmed by the vet school.
Additionally, she 
is much slower this morning, and if I don't get her another transfusion
today, 
I don't think she'll last past the night, or at the very latest, through

tomorrow. I'm starting to suspect that this is a lost cause. My vet put
in an 
emergency referral to the vet school, but this will cost me $2000. I
simply 
cannot afford that. I have the money at the moment, but I need to save
it up.

Part of me thinks that it might just be easier to let her go, but the
other 
part of me can't stand to let that happen without giving her a chance.
Maybe 
with meds she could be okay, I don't know. Probably not. But maybe; and
it's 
that slight possibility that makes me want to do what I can for her.
Maybe if 
she is given a fresh start on some new blood, she'll be strong enough
that 
meds will actually help her. I kind of doubt this, but like I said, I
want to 
do what I can for her. I don't want to just give up. Though at the same
time, 
I hate putting her through this She is suffering for the second time

within a week, and I feel horrible for it. I wonder if I should just let

nature take its course... Going to the vet again and undergoing sedation
and 
another blood transfusion might just wear her out.

I know that, ultimately, it's my own choice as to what I choose to do. I
could 
get blood from Juniper, but I hate to put her at risk. I also don't know
if it 
would do any real good for Olive, besides perhaps extending her life for

another week. I think I may just let her rest, although I don't know if
I'd 
rather let her go on her own or go the route of euthanasia. I hate to do

either, and I'm not sure which would be optimal.

I feel so completely lost right now.

= Original Message From glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=
Megan, You are a very special young lady. I feel very
glad you are able to get the best help possible from
the great people on this list. I see those wheels
turning in your head. You are going to be successful
in what ever you do in life.
Olive is so lucky to have you fighting for her.
Everyone is going to be wishing the best for your
other two. If by chance they are neg. this is good for
Olive too. There is that small chance she could beat
it. I know this is all very draining on you, but
please focus on your school work so you do not get
behind...Maybe somehow, this could make you even more
functional...sometimes ,under pressure things can kick
in we did not even know we had, to pull us through.
 The best to all of you! Glenda
--- Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess I figured it was NRA, just because that
 seems most likely to me. If
 she tested positive on the IFA, doesn't that mean
 the infection's spread to
 her bone marrow, and therefore she can't produce new
 RBCs? The vet didn't tell
 me which one it was, but I'll ask tomorrow, if he
 even knows.

 Olive did have her blood typed, and she's type A,
 fortunately. That's what you
 were asking, right? The reason her brother Kudzu had
 to give her blood was
 that there was apparently no blood stored up
 anywhere nearby. This now seems
 slightly ridiculous to me, what with the vet school
 and all. Surely there
 would be available blood somewhere in Knoxville or
 the surrounding area.
 Still, I think Kudzu would've had to have been used
 regardless at the time,
 because Olive would probably have died within a few
 hours if not for the
 transfusion. Her packed cell count had gotten down
 to 4.5%.

 As for how she's doing today She's still up and
 active, behaving pretty
 normally. She does seem slightly slower today,
 unfortunately, and the
 coloration in her pads has gone down. Although, I
 think they may actually look
 a bit better now than they did earlier today. I
 don't know, it may just be my
 imagination.

 I left a message with my vet today, but
 unfortunately he did not get to talk
 to 

Re: to Marylyn

2007-08-30 Thread Marylyn
I get it from a holistic vet, Susan Maier, in Simpsonville, KY.  However you 
can order directly from PetzLife if you can't find it.  Here is the link: 
http://www.petzlife.com/category/


You can work your way back and forth thru it to get additional information. 
They are calling it Oral Care Gel now--probably to avoid confusion with the 
Mr. Clean and other brush away ads.


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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:32 AM
Subject: to Marylyn



Is the name of the product you use for stomatitis called Brush Away?
Can you describe it and tell me where you get it?

I've not been able to clear up two areas on MeMe's upper gum.
I've been giving her First Born and several other immune supplements,  but
these two areas are difficult.

Thanks
Jane






***Important question about reticulocytes***

2007-08-30 Thread Megan Heikkinen
The vet told me that Olive's number of reticulocytes was low--but she does 
have SOME. He and the vet school seem to think it's nonregenerative anemia, 
but if that's so, wouldn't there be no reticulocytes whatsoever? Or could they 
possibly be leftovers from the blood transfusion? I'm really confused. I don't 
want to give up if there's still a chance.

-Megan





Re: ***Important question about reticulocytes***

2007-08-30 Thread Megan Heikkinen
Actually, I think her blood was tested before the transfusion. So what does 
that mean? I would like to think that both my vet and the vet school know what 
they're talking about... but what if they're wrong?

-Megan





Papillon

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Dubose
Papillon seems to be sleeping more than normal.

Papillon is my flamepoint Balinese Top Cat that is felv+.

He is eating the same w/ the exception of not quite as much moist food in the 
mornings (but still eating some), fur looks good, hasn't lost weight, still 
over stimulates easily when I go to him and pet him,which makes him grab my 
hand, bite it while bunny kicking.

On the other side, he seems to be sleeping ALOT more, not singing like he 
used to, not jumping on the 3 girls and playing a bit rough anymore.

I checked his lymph nodes and they are not swollen.

I noticed the change about the same time that I brought in Percival, but after 
about 2 days Pappy no longer hissed at him, and while they are not preening 
each other, they like each other.

Yesterday when Percival sniffedPappy, Pappy just rolled over and put a 
softpawon Pappy's face, just looked into his eyes, very sweetly

Should I be concerned?

Does this come  go?

While I have lots of experince w/ felv+ cats ( I used to care for Dr. Smith's 5 
to 6 days a week and I also have a couple of clients that have felv+ cats), I 
have never actually had one in my home until last year.

I will be @ the Cat Hospital picking up my usual supply of Zithromax for 
Paloma, Princess Purr-la  Sugar Buggars (all felv-,just chronically ill..) so, 
I will talk to Dr. Smith and see what he says.

Has anyone else noticed their felv+ cats having off time, on time?).

Would bloodwork be the next step?

Sorry so many questions, I am just very worried about him.

I love them all so much and I am not ready to lose him.



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www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
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Re: Pics of Genevieve

2007-08-30 Thread Watsdadillyo
I am soo sorry for your loss. I cried when I looked at beautiful Genevieve  
little face. She looked so happy and full of love. She had a great life and  
looked so loved. May your heart heal.



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Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread TatorBunz
Sorry all my newer computer crashed so I'm using the old one.

Susan,
I'm so sorry to hear about your Jingles. How horrible for you to find him 
this way. Bless you for being his mom. He knows you love and always will. Just 
as 
he loved you.
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RE: Sylvester died at home this morning

2007-08-30 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thinking of you and your sweetie Sylvester, Tracy. It's so hard losing a
beloved kitty. I'm just glad he passed away at home, in a stress-free
environment, with his favorite human caring for him. hugs, Kerry

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Dear Tracy: 

I was so sad to read your story of your wonderful Sylvester and his
peaceful passing up in your box spring.  And also, how he showed the
doctor that he was just fine--I think he was thanking his vet, in a way,
for all the help he had been given there.  And thanking you and the
other kitties for all the happy life he had with you--even if some of
them terrorized him!  He clearly wanted to pass away with you--and he
did!

My very BEST thoughts for Sylvester and for you and the other kitties,
too.

xxx, Tee 'n' the Wildlife


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On Aug 25, 2007, at 8:11 AM, Tracy Weese wrote:



My giant (well, he used to be) ol' farm cat died this morning at
home.
 
Sylvester came off a farm where I take care of a dwindling
(thanks to TNR) cat colony.  He got very sick about 2 years ago and I
took him to the vet...of course it was more than being sick, he had
FeLV+.  So he came home with my other cats (I had few other positives
then, after today down to two now and soon to be one-CW is anemic and
fading, too).
 
He was big when I got him, about 16 pounds despite being so ill.
After many  at the vets' and then living at home, he was up to 22
lbs!  He stayed pretty healthy for about 1 year and  4 months (he was
probably 7 when I got him).  He always had a little cough the vets
thought was asthma (and yes, we checked and re-checked this).  But
recently, he was not the same, more coughing, high fever, not
eatingturns out his blood counts were all haywire.  Low RBC, Low
white count and low plateletsthe antibiotics for the fever made his
tummy hurt, too.  So at the vet yesterday I asked if it was time to let
him go (he lost 2 lbs in a week), the vet didn't think so bec. of
course, he perked up at the vets' and purred and pranced...He got a
vitamin B12 shot and his very first steroid shot (yes, we discussed that
steriods in a FeLV+ cat were a last resort).  When we got home, he had a
good night.  He ate some, and hung out with me and the others (he had
been staying under the bed except when I would drag him out for meds).
He even played some and tried to squeeze into a tiny box like he used
to.
 
This morning I awoke to a few sounds of slight distresshe
was sleeping under the bed again (actually, the cats tore the bottom
fabric of the box springs and he would sleep inside the box springs).  I
reached down and touched him and told him I was there and then went to
get a carrier to go to the vet.  In the seconds it took for me to run
downstairs and get the carrier and come back up, he was
gone.
 
I had to cut the rest of the fabric to get him since he would
lay furtherst from the opening.  I pulled him out and he was still, he
looked very peaceful--no signs of struggle on him or under the bed.
 
This is the very first cat I have had that died at home (and I
have a cabinet full of cremated remains)...it was not terrible, but I
did not plan it.  Last night was so good for him, I guess he had only
one last good night in him.
 
He died with me nearby and in the place he felt safest, under
the bed.  I took him to the vets' so he can be cremated.
I don't think he suffered but a few short seconds if that.  I
gave him permission several days ago to leave if he needed to, I guess
he needed to go today.
 
Although I will miss him, several of my other cats will not.  He
was a gentle giant, but a few of my smaller cats  terrorized him if they
got the chance.  He never struck out first and usually retreated, but he
was always a sweetie to people.
 
Please think good thoughts for Sylvester.
 
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Re: 1 YEAR!!

2007-08-30 Thread TatorBunz
WOOHOO Crackers!
So happy to hear this.
Was wondering on how you guys were doing anyway.


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Re: 1 YEAR!!

2007-08-30 Thread Kelley Saveika
I had been wondering about Crackers.  Glad he is doing well.



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Re: 1 YEAR!!

2007-08-30 Thread wendy
Kayte,

Good to hear from you!  I'm so happy that Crackers is doing so well!  And that 
he has a friend to play with.  I would love to see pics of that!  I think it 
would be great to send a photo to the vet; he might learn something that helps 
someone else's kitty who tests positive.  You can send him a nicely worded card 
with the photo.

Here's to twenty more good years for Cracker!!!

:)
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- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:38:01 AM
Subject: 1 YEAR!!


Hi everyone! I haven't been on in awhile but I use to post! My cat Crackers is 
FELV POS Found out 1 yr ago. His 1 yr anniversary of being positive. In the 
last year he has only had 1 eye infection 11 months ago.and has gained 3 1/2 
lbs making him a whooping 22lbs now. He is happy healthy and enjoying life with 
his new brother Blue (8 month American Bulldog) We got him at 9 weeks old. 
Having Blue to play with has been a wonderful experience in Crackers life. They 
play together,eat and sleep together. Just wanted to share the great news and 
THANK everyone again for all the great advice and info I got last year when I 
was going crazy! You guys are the best. And my devilish side wants to so bad 
send his EX Vet Crackers pix and say this is the Baby doll you wanted to put to 
sleep last year with no illness signs just the diagnois of being FELV Pos. Much 
love and Happiness to everyone!
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Re: Update on Olive: Not good...

2007-08-30 Thread wendy
Dear Megan,

Most of us here know exactly the heartwrenching decisions that have to be made 
regarding money and care for our kitties.  I would not have $2000 to see the 
veterinary school, and I think it's absolutely dastardly of them to charge that 
type of fee.  What does it include, for heaven's sake?  Please don't feel that 
any of us are going to judge you if you don't go into the hole $2k for 
treatment.  And to be perfectly honest, the anemia is a horrible, horrible 
thing to fight, and most of the time, it does not turn around.  I would still 
put Olive on the doxy, no matter what.  But if she doesn't do better with it, 
and I think it takes a little while to work, then you may have to let her go.  
I am so sorry.  If you want to give her the transfusion and the meds to see 
what will happen, go for it.  But just know it might not work.  The one very 
important thing here is if you can avoid it, and your belief system allows for 
pts, don't wait to let her die on her
 own.  You will regret seeing it and much worse, allowing it to get that far 
for her sake.  You will see her suffer.  The guilt is horrible too.  Caroline 
and I can both attest to that.  Go with your heart, Megan.  And ask Olive what 
she wants.  Search her eyes.  If you need more time and want to do that one 
last thing that might help her, don't feel selfish for doing it.  It will give 
you a few more days with her if it doesn't work, and you can prepare better for 
what might lie ahead.  This has been so fast for both of you, and again, I'm so 
sorry.  It's heartwrenching, even for us here to know you and Olive are going 
through this.

I am glad your other two have tested negative.  That is a blessing.  Only sad 
that Olive's prognosis isn't looking better. Please keep us posted.  We're here 
for you right now.  Prayers going out for healing for little Olive.  And peace 
for you.

:)
Wendy
 
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Re: ***Important question about reticulocytes***

2007-08-30 Thread wendy
Here are a few articles:

 
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/10200.htm
 
:explains that the reticulocyte count greater than 1% indicates regeneration.
 
http://www.2ndchance.info/anemia.htm

http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00043.htm

http://www.walthamusa.com/articles/COUTO97.pdf


Basically, at this point, which is one of the problems with anemia, is that 
it's a crapshoot because you can't tell.  Low reticulocytes can go either way.  
If you can swing the transfusion, do it and get her on doxy asap.  Precious 
time has been lost already waiting for the doxy to take effect.  I hope it 
works Megan.

:)
Wendy
 
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- Original Message 
From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:08:52 PM
Subject: ***Important question about reticulocytes***


The vet told me that Olive's number of reticulocytes was low--but she does 
have SOME. He and the vet school seem to think it's nonregenerative anemia, 
but if that's so, wouldn't there be no reticulocytes whatsoever? Or could they 
possibly be leftovers from the blood transfusion? I'm really confused. I don't 
want to give up if there's still a chance.

-Megan


  

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Re: Papillon

2007-08-30 Thread wendy
What color are his gums?

:)
Wendy
 
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- Original Message 
From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:53:33 PM
Subject: Papillon


Papillon seems to be sleeping more than normal.
 
Papillon is my flamepoint Balinese Top Cat that is felv+.
 
He is eating the same w/ the exception of not quite as much moist food in the 
mornings (but still eating some), fur looks good, hasn't lost weight, still 
over stimulates easily when I go to him and pet him,which makes him grab my 
hand, bite it while bunny kicking.
 
On the other side, he seems to be sleeping ALOT more, not singing like he 
used to, not jumping on the 3 girls and playing a bit rough anymore.
 
I checked his lymph nodes and they are not swollen.
 
I noticed the change about the same time that I brought in Percival, but after 
about 2 days Pappy no longer hissed at him, and while they are not preening 
each other, they like each other.
 
Yesterday when Percival sniffedPappy, Pappy just rolled over and put a 
softpawon Pappy's face, just looked into his eyes, very sweetly
 
Should I be concerned?
 
Does this come  go?
 
While I have lots of experince w/ felv+ cats ( I used to care for Dr. Smith's 5 
to 6 days a week and I also have a couple of clients that have felv+ cats), I 
have never actually had one in my home until last year.
 
I will be @ the Cat Hospital picking up my usual supply of Zithromax for 
Paloma, Princess Purr-la  Sugar Buggars (all felv-,just chronically ill..) so, 
I will talk to Dr. Smith and see what he says.
 
Has anyone else noticed their felv+ cats having off time, on time?).
 
Would bloodwork be the next step?
 
Sorry so many questions, I am just very worried about him.
 
I love them all so much and I am not ready to lose him.
 
 
 
Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
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   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
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Re: Papillon

2007-08-30 Thread Susan Dubose
nice  pink.

Sheila ( Dr.Smith's wife) told me this today...I will be @ the Cat 
Hospital tomorrow,so I will see if he would like to do some bloodwork.

Next week is a killer for me, Labor Day clients outta town.


I think if he is eating and eliminating ok and he seems to be
generally doing well, then he is probably ok. Its when the appetite
fails,his coat looks ragged,etc that they seem to go into that usually
fatal decline.

I hope he is just having a down time and he bounces back to his perky
self soon. Sometimes what I have seen is a very gradual slowing down.
My Cookie Princess is doing that now. She has lost two pounds over the
last few months.

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: wendy 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:11 PM
  Subject: Re: Papillon


  What color are his gums?

  :)
  Wendy
   
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



  - Original Message 
  From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:53:33 PM
  Subject: Papillon


  Papillon seems to be sleeping more than normal.

  Papillon is my flamepoint Balinese Top Cat that is felv+.

  He is eating the same w/ the exception of not quite as much moist food in the 
mornings (but still eating some), fur looks good, hasn't lost weight, still 
over stimulates easily when I go to him and pet him,which makes him grab my 
hand, bite it while bunny kicking.

  On the other side, he seems to be sleeping ALOT more, not singing like he 
used to, not jumping on the 3 girls and playing a bit rough anymore.

  I checked his lymph nodes and they are not swollen.

  I noticed the change about the same time that I brought in Percival, but 
after about 2 days Pappy no longer hissed at him, and while they are not 
preening each other, they like each other.

  Yesterday when Percival sniffedPappy, Pappy just rolled over and put a 
softpawon Pappy's face, just looked into his eyes, very sweetly

  Should I be concerned?

  Does this come  go?

  While I have lots of experince w/ felv+ cats ( I used to care for Dr. Smith's 
5 to 6 days a week and I also have a couple of clients that have felv+ cats), I 
have never actually had one in my home until last year.

  I will be @ the Cat Hospital picking up my usual supply of Zithromax for 
Paloma, Princess Purr-la  Sugar Buggars (all felv-,just chronically ill..) so, 
I will talk to Dr. Smith and see what he says.

  Has anyone else noticed their felv+ cats having off time, on time?).

  Would bloodwork be the next step?

  Sorry so many questions, I am just very worried about him.

  I love them all so much and I am not ready to lose him.



  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
  www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
  www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
  www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
 Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
 Purring welcomes of soft applause,
 Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
   Trajan Tennent








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Megan, be careful...

2007-08-30 Thread glenda Goodman
Megan, I just got home and saw the update on Olive's
situation and your other two kitties. It is wonderful
your two have tested negative...I feel very sad to
hear of how your little Olive is doing. 
I just read Wendy's letter to you and it was perfect,
right on, as is usual for Wendy! Yeah! Wendy! 
Like Wendy I cannot believe they would have the guts
to tell you the fee for helping Olive would be
$2,000.00. They do not even know if they will be able
to help her...This is a learning thing for those
guys...They should be grateful you have evenconsidered
bringing Olive to them...It seems someone is praying
on your heartache and desperation here.
 You have picked up and retained so much information
in these last few days from the experienced and very
kind people here. 
If I were you I would gather my senses and go through
the basic steps to make Olive comfortable and build up
her system with the supplements that might help her
that you can afford. I cannot imagine what the vet
school would be thinking to put Olive through for
$2,000.00. I would imagine it would be horribly
stessfull for her and there would be a lot of
strangers around and that would be very scary for
her... There is nothing out there that is going to
save her if she is at a certain point with this
disease and for these guys to be putting a 2,000.00
price tag on what the treatment is, they are trying to
sell you on, is just not very nice at all. 
 I'm sure Wendy and some others here would love to
hear their ideas for treatment...They would be a lot
more in touch than I might be or some of the newer
people here. I wish you could ask those vet school
people what they are thinking on selling you and then
let these guys decide if their price tag is in line
with their treatment options...
Meanwhile, I am wondering how Michael is doing with
his vet school situation???
I'm really sorry for you and Olive, but your other
guys need you too... and you need to keep strong! Be
careful with your money and study hard in school...The
mother in me is coming out here...Glenda


  

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RE: ***Important question about reticulocytes***

2007-08-30 Thread Megan Heikkinen
I left a message for my vet today regarding her reticulocytes, but he never 
got back to me. If he had, maybe I could've gotten another transfusion done. 
Now I'm afraid I've missed my chance, and I feel absolutely horrible. I had 
decided to let Olive go, but now I'm wondering if I could've saved her. I 
don't know if there's time, now. I feel like I didn't try hard enough...

= Original Message From wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Here are a few articles:

 
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/10200.htm
 
:explains that the reticulocyte count greater than 1% indicates regeneration.
 
http://www.2ndchance.info/anemia.htm

http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00043.htm

http://www.walthamusa.com/articles/COUTO97.pdf


Basically, at this point, which is one of the problems with anemia, is that 
it's a crapshoot because you can't tell.  Low reticulocytes can go either way.
 If you can swing the transfusion, do it and get her on doxy asap.  Precious 
time has been lost already waiting for the doxy to take effect.  I hope it 
works Megan.

:)
Wendy
 
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- Original Message 
From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:08:52 PM
Subject: ***Important question about reticulocytes***


The vet told me that Olive's number of reticulocytes was low--but she does 
have SOME. He and the vet school seem to think it's nonregenerative anemia, 
but if that's so, wouldn't there be no reticulocytes whatsoever? Or could they 
possibly be leftovers from the blood transfusion? I'm really confused. I don't 
want to give up if there's still a chance.

-Megan


  
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Re: Nova Please add to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread glenda Goodman
Sherry, 
Sending hugs for all you have been through these last
few days...I'm sorry Nova's life was cut short too, by
this awful disease. I know we all want to thank you
for all you do for these poor , deserving little
guys... and especially, for the love you give to
them...My heart breaks for each and every one. Any one
of them could have been one of mine...I know how
special each one is...
Love from us here in Nebraska, 
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--- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well poor Nova has now crossed the bridge.will this
 aweful disease ever cured? Only in our dreams. :(
   Jen sent out an e-mail to all the volunteers
 tonight about Genevieve and Nova.I am getting many
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Re: Nova Please add to the CLS

2007-08-30 Thread Sally Davis
Sherry

I am so very sorry to hear about both Genevieve's and Nova's crossings. I
looks at Genevieve's pics she is such a pretty girl. You are doing the best
you can for these kitties. They may not be cured on this earth but they are
cured in heaven.

Hugs

Sally


On 8/29/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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RE: ***Important question about reticulocytes***

2007-08-30 Thread glenda Goodman
Megan, All you have been doing is trying! How many
hours are there in a day? You have not let an hour go
by, except maybe when you have been asleep, that you
have not been doing everything humanly possible to
help your Olive. 
Your grade is nothing less than an A+ on your test as
a care giver for your kitties...Glenda
--- Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I left a message for my vet today regarding her
 reticulocytes, but he never 
 got back to me. If he had, maybe I could've gotten
 another transfusion done. 
 Now I'm afraid I've missed my chance, and I feel
 absolutely horrible. I had 
 decided to let Olive go, but now I'm wondering if I
 could've saved her. I 
 don't know if there's time, now. I feel like I
 didn't try hard enough...
 
 = Original Message From wendy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
 Here are a few articles:
 
  

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/10200.htm
  
 :explains that the reticulocyte count greater than
 1% indicates regeneration.
  
 http://www.2ndchance.info/anemia.htm
 

http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00043.htm
 
 http://www.walthamusa.com/articles/COUTO97.pdf
 
 
 Basically, at this point, which is one of the
 problems with anemia, is that 
 it's a crapshoot because you can't tell.  Low
 reticulocytes can go either way.
  If you can swing the transfusion, do it and get her
 on doxy asap.  Precious 
 time has been lost already waiting for the doxy to
 take effect.  I hope it 
 works Megan.
 
 :)
 Wendy
  
 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
 committed citizens can change 
 the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever
 has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:08:52 PM
 Subject: ***Important question about
 reticulocytes***
 
 
 The vet told me that Olive's number of reticulocytes
 was low--but she does 
 have SOME. He and the vet school seem to think it's
 nonregenerative anemia, 
 but if that's so, wouldn't there be no reticulocytes
 whatsoever? Or could they 
 possibly be leftovers from the blood transfusion?
 I'm really confused. I don't 
 want to give up if there's still a chance.
 
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Re: Update on Olive: Not good...

2007-08-30 Thread Belinda
I do not all animals or people suffer when they are dying and I can tell 
you for a fact unless any of my furkids are in a great deal of pain and 
I clearly get from them they want help passing I will let all of them 
pass on their own, I personally believe most prefer it.  It may not be 
pretty for me but I don't think they suffer as we think they do, once 
the process gets to a certain point the body goes into shock and I don't 
think you feel much of anything.  Of course I have never died, that is 
just my sense of the process and I could be as right as anyone who 
insists helping an animal pass is the best and kindest thing you can do 
for them, I don't think that is always the case.  I personally would 
never want to be euthanized if that was an option humans had.



You will regret seeing it and much worse, allowing it to get that far for her 
sake.  You will see her suffer.


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Re: Megan, be careful...

2007-08-30 Thread OfALegend
Hey guys.   I can't possibly imagine what could cost $2000 other  than a very 
extensive hospitalization.  Their prices and fees for labs and  diagnostic 
tests run pretty average...$15 to $40 for most testsand a  
consultation/exam/visit is only $60.  My appointment is on the 11th.   I'll be 
sure to let you 
all know how it goes.
 
Megan, who gave you the 2k figure?  The vet, or the hospital  itself?  I'm 
sorry, but you and I have talked a bit outside the group, and  I must say, I'm 
just not digging your vet, Megan. I'm not sure what his motives  or intentions 
are.  I dunno if he's really clueless, or what. :(  
 
I still recommend another vet.  And I'd find out from the hosptial  itself if 
they're wanting to charge that much.  I know I've heard a lot of  people 
around here say their vets will try to discourage people from going to UT  for 
various reasons...the biggest of which I truly think is they lose  money.  

Do keep us updated on whats going on.  :(

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Re: 1 YEAR!!

2007-08-30 Thread Watsdadillyo
Thank you everyone. Your kind words and wishes are inspiring! MEOW!
Kayte  Crackers



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Re: Megan, be careful...

2007-08-30 Thread Watsdadillyo
My cat crackers had contracted the FELV POS from a stray beautiful girl  
Pokemon. Long story short Pokemon was a gorgeous black and white long hair  
beauty who walked into our lifes at park. I was dense and didn't know anything  
about FELV or FIV in cats. My son and niece fell in love and I brought her  
home 
and brought her right in the house. She was so lovable , beautiful, had  
extra toes on all her paws. Well 10 months later she was sick and I rush her to 
 
the Emergency Animal Hospital in Philly. I knew NOTHING at all about anything.  
They wanted $1,300 to admit her and said her stay in ICU would be between  
$6,000-$7,000. I was in shock. They wouldn't tell me what was wrong and even if 
 
they would I was so naive. Finally after struggling with Demons inside, they  
told me she had lyphomia and would prob not make it. And that she probally 
had  FELV or FIV, and I should test my other cat, Crackers. I wish I had been 
aware  of these diseases because I would have said do the 5 minute test and 
see. 
That  was such a rotten time in my life. I ended up putting Pokemon down. My 
last  memory was of her breathing sweetly and sleeping in an oxygen incubator. 
I pet  her and told her I loved her. The next week I took Crackers and he was 
Positive  and his vet told meput him down , he prob wont make it another 
month. That I  WAS NOT going to hear. I with the help of this wonderful group 
got a new Vet.  That was 1 yr ago. He will go for his 6 month check up in 2 
weeks. He has  been so healthy, happy and loved this last year. This is your 
personal battle I  think we all would do something a little different. Me I 
look at 
quality of  life, but would spend every penny I had to make Crackers well, 
free of pain.  Then again he is stretched out on my diner room table next to 
me. 
SPOLIED  LOL! LOL. He is 6 years old and considered my son. I would sell my 
blood to  help him. But I also would not make him suffer for my satisfaction! 
Good luck  and my your heart guilde you and your sweet baby Megan.
Kayte
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