Re: [Felvtalk] Need suggestions help for 2 yr old leuk cat
My first positive cat had severe uri's. I took her to a homeopathic vet in addition to her regular vet and it got her through two really bad ones (almost pneumonia). The last time she got sick I had to let her go. She was just too hard to medicate and too miserable to go on. She lived to 7 or 8 years old though. tonya Claudia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I need your help!!! I just joined this website. I'm so glad something like this exists as a resource for people with feline leuk cats. I have a young cat (she's 2) who was feral, I started feeding her over the winter. She's been with me almsot 2 years now. I decided to bring her in the hosue 'cause she was a little kitten then, and I was worried about her being aout in the cold. She was fine for a while ( at least 5 moths) then developed a couph. I brought her to the vet, she was tested adn they said she had feline leukemia. She's been tested tiwce, so I guess she fdoes have it. I didn't knwo anything about thsi illness in cats. Since then, in the past 10 months, she's had a cold or upper respiratory problems, inclding possibly asthma and allergies chronically. It seems she's been getting sick evry 2-3 months. She's been on anitbiotics which has worked so far.In the past 3 weeks she's had an occasional couph, and he rbreathing ahsn't been normal. Sh's been on Clavamox anibiotic for 10 days, it's helped a little, but this apst Tuesday and Today, she had a coupel of episodes where she began a couphing fit, then started weezing, and panting for air, with her outh opening for a few seconds for air. IT was scary, I'd never seen her like that. I turned ont humidifier and that seemd to help her.One thig though was that when I've had the humidifier on for too long, I found mold on the windown int he room, and that's not good either. I'm planning on taking her to the vet tomorrow. I don't know what they'll tell me. I want to keep her healthy for as long as I can. HEr vet told me that she might have ashtma, but it was hard to tell form her X ray because she also has the Leukemia. The vet didn't want to put her on Steroids because it's deadly for leukemia cats. I'm wondering what to do??? I was told people ont his board know a lot about feline Leuk. Please offer any suggestions, recommendations. Thank you so much!!! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New member, advice needed please!
It sounds like you're doing everything you can. My first positive went through 2 very bad periods and recovered to live to 7 or 8 years old. I hope Tora pulls through. take care, tonya amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , my kitten ' 'Tora' aged about 5 months was diagnosed with FeLV yesterday, he was sick since last friday which I mistaked for food poisoning! That time he had antibiotics and interferon injection and sub fluids which helped him alot, he had swollen lypm node on one side of throat which got much better, but on Tuesday he started getting ill again, quiet ect, so yesterday we tested for FeLV and he come out full possitive. I live in Japan and they suggested interefon injections for the next five days and sub fluids with vitamins and antibiotics, since yesterday he hasn`t been eating, has been dribbling sometimes and looks like he has inflamation of the intestines, when we touch him, he cries in pain. My husband is an accupunturist and we are doing that too and I asking the advice of a homeopath too. Is there anything else that I can try? Will he have a chance to pull through? It`s not the first time I`ve had FeLV possitive cats, I had two before, one lived a long normal life and the other pulled through the first bout of sickness like Tora, maybe not as bad, but I remember she didn`t eat for days too! But I lost her to Lymphoma cancer a year later. Any advice help, information would be truely appreciated!! hugs and purrs Amanda and Tora. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death
Kelley, Wouldn't they spend their remaining lives in cages at Texas AM? I'd believe I'd rather see my cats euthanized than living in a cage. Lorrie On 10-31, Kelley Saveika wrote: My plan is not to leave them to a sanctuary, but to the Stevenson Companion Animal Life-Care Center at Texas AM University. Vet students live on the premises to care for them and they also receive great care from the University's Vet Medical Center, which is right next door. You can leave any excess money that is not needed for their care, should they cross the bridge before their funds run out, to whichever medical program you want - for me it would probably be studying feline heart disease, for yall it would probably be studying FELV (depending on how they plan to study it, some of the studies have been...not good). http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/ I do not plan to leave to relatives, I have seen too many relatives dump the pets at the kill shelter before the person is cold in the ground. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death
Thanks for the link Laurie. By the time I read thru the web site I ended up sponsoring Felicio. Sounds like a wonderful sanctuary. I'll definitely be checking into their Safety Net Program. Just wish it wasn't 1000 miles away. Sharyl --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 10:24 PM Friends of mine have CW Rustic Hollow Shelter (a sanctuary) in Iowa. It is an amazing place where the kitties are well cared for by a group of employees and visited every night by the women who run the shelter. Every kitty has access to a screened in porch area off their particular building or living space. These women have been at it for a number of years and know how to keep things clean and provide a stimulating environment for the kitties. Check out their website for info about sponsorships and estate planning (best to consult with them first, of course). One woman built her own building there for her cats (paid for by her estate). http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/ Laurie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten chronic loose stool
Kerry, I have had a little experience with the loose stools you're talking about. A few months ago I found a kitten (Abbey) who was near death who tested +. She had uncontrollable diarrhea, I mean it was everywhere and she didn't even seem to know it was coming out. Of course she had been starving and eating God knows what. But I fed her only the best food (Wellness canned) to try to get her healthy. She was wormed and was on antibiotics for 10 days initially. Gradually over the first few weeks she got better and better, but she would still 'ooze' frequently outside the litter box, and inside the box it was still extremely loose like babyfood. So I started giving her Fortiflora (recommended by the vet) for 30 days. It did help a little bit, but it was never solid like it should have been. I have 3 other cats, all -'s and I have fed them a homemade raw chicken and bones diet for the last 9 months. I was reluctant to give it to her (Abbey) because I was hoping to find her a home and it would be very unlikely that anyone else would give her that same diet, so I didn't want her system to have to get used to a different diet. Anyway, after about 6 weeks of dealing with the diarrhea, I started feeding her the raw diet. It was amazing! Within a week it was solid as can be, and she is really the picture of health. Another cat I took in a year ago (Missy), a stray starving kitten, also had diarrhea issues, but hers also had blood in it (bright red). Of course I had her stools checked and they never found anything wrong, which is terribly frustrating. You know there has to be something wrong if there is blood in it. My vets could never find anything though. She is the reason I started researching cat foods. I took me a long time to make the decision to make my own food and it also took a while to get them switched over to this new diet, but it was well worth the effort! They are so healthy! Their coats are extremely shiny and softer, their temperaments are better, they are much more active (playing more than they ever did), and my 16 lb 'fat cat' has lost a little weight. I just couldn't believe it could make such a difference. I got my recipe form catinfo.com and catnutrition.com. These are awesome websites, one is even a veterinarian. It is 'complete' if you make it right and use the right ingredients and supplements. It is not that expensive. I make 15 pounds of it at a time and freeze it. Making the food is a bit intimidating at first, but I have it down pat now. I will never feed dryfood again, or use anything but a high quality food. It does makes all the difference. Good luck! Tracey (Indiana) - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:56 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitten chronic loose stool Hi all, My FeLV foster kitten, Daisy (about 14 weeks old now) has had soft stools, and sometimes uncontrollable diarrhea, ever since she was found in the street at 3 weeks. When I began fostering her about 5 weeks ago she had been taking meds for coccidia for several weeks without improvement. I took her to my vet, who has state of the art everything, including feces-testing methods, and he found that her coccidia had cleared up (it never actually goes away) and what she had was (bad) bacterial growth. He put her on a 3-meds treatment plan that included 5 days Panacure. She has control now, but her stool is still baby food consistency. My question is---have any of you ever used an exclusive diet of broiled or raw chicken to treat a *kitten's* diarrhea/loose stool? I've used it successfully with my former adult FeLV, Snoball, but I'm worried about the effects of an incomplete (albeit temporary) diet of this kind on a kitten. I'd also welcome hearing of any other successful ways that anyone may have found in treating kittens' loose stools. Thanks! Kerry M. _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list
Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Lorrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Wouldn't they spend their remaining lives in cages at Texas AM? I'd believe I'd rather see my cats euthanized than living in a cage. Lorrie Lorrie, They are not caged at all - possibly for feeding purposes as they all get individual diets tailored to the needs of the animals, but not other than that.. The cats are free-roaming in the cat area, and the dogs are free-roaming in the dog area, the birds are free-flying in the bird area - for obvious reasons they do not allow the cats into the bird area or the dogs into the cat area. They can go into the student living quarters with the students to watch TV or whatever. I would not want my cats in cages either. They also have a barn and pasture for horses, ponies, donkeys, llamas, etc. Please check out the link. http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/ I do not plan to leave to relatives, I have seen too many relatives dump the pets at the kill shelter before the person is cold in the ground. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death
I know Felicio and love him. When I go to CW, we have lunch and Felicio always sits on my lap. He is gorgeous and sweet. I have agreed to take him if they ever need a place for him to go. He touched my heart with his braveryit isn't easy being blind and living with other cats (my Frankie is blind...). Bless you! Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 7:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death Thanks for the link Laurie. By the time I read thru the web site I ended up sponsoring Felicio. Sounds like a wonderful sanctuary. I'll definitely be checking into their Safety Net Program. Just wish it wasn't 1000 miles away. Sharyl --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 10:24 PM Friends of mine have CW Rustic Hollow Shelter (a sanctuary) in Iowa. It is an amazing place where the kitties are well cared for by a group of employees and visited every night by the women who run the shelter. Every kitty has access to a screened in porch area off their particular building or living space. These women have been at it for a number of years and know how to keep things clean and provide a stimulating environment for the kitties. Check out their website for info about sponsorships and estate planning (best to consult with them first, of course). One woman built her own building there for her cats (paid for by her estate). http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/ Laurie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death
Looks like a great setup--but the endownment fees are steep Still, for those who can afford it, it looks like a pretty good situation.. at least from their web sit... http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/index.htm Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 2:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Lorrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Wouldn't they spend their remaining lives in cages at Texas AM? I'd believe I'd rather see my cats euthanized than living in a cage. Lorrie Lorrie, They are not caged at all - possibly for feeding purposes as they all get individual diets tailored to the needs of the animals, but not other than that.. The cats are free-roaming in the cat area, and the dogs are free-roaming in the dog area, the birds are free-flying in the bird area - for obvious reasons they do not allow the cats into the bird area or the dogs into the cat area. They can go into the student living quarters with the students to watch TV or whatever. I would not want my cats in cages either. They also have a barn and pasture for horses, ponies, donkeys, llamas, etc. Please check out the link. http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/ I do not plan to leave to relatives, I have seen too many relatives dump the pets at the kill shelter before the person is cold in the ground. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death
I have been there, and it is a good setup. It is right next door to the clinic where I take Missy to see the cardiologist. So if there is ever a problem they can be at the ER within 2-3 minutes time. On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like a great setup--but the endownment fees are steep Still, for those who can afford it, it looks like a pretty good situation.. at least from their web sit... http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/index.htm Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 2:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Lorrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Wouldn't they spend their remaining lives in cages at Texas AM? I'd believe I'd rather see my cats euthanized than living in a cage. Lorrie Lorrie, They are not caged at all - possibly for feeding purposes as they all get individual diets tailored to the needs of the animals, but not other than that.. The cats are free-roaming in the cat area, and the dogs are free-roaming in the dog area, the birds are free-flying in the bird area - for obvious reasons they do not allow the cats into the bird area or the dogs into the cat area. They can go into the student living quarters with the students to watch TV or whatever. I would not want my cats in cages either. They also have a barn and pasture for horses, ponies, donkeys, llamas, etc. Please check out the link. http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/ I do not plan to leave to relatives, I have seen too many relatives dump the pets at the kill shelter before the person is cold in the ground. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death
That's why I picked him to sponsor. Mattie, one of the FeLV+ babies I rescued this summer, is blind. She is the bravest of the 4 kittens. Has absolutely no fear. She climbs where the others wouldn't even dream of going. Sharyl --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 4:38 PM I know Felicio and love him. When I go to CW, we have lunch and Felicio always sits on my lap. He is gorgeous and sweet. I have agreed to take him if they ever need a place for him to go. He touched my heart with his braveryit isn't easy being blind and living with other cats (my Frankie is blind...). Bless you! Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 7:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death Thanks for the link Laurie. By the time I read thru the web site I ended up sponsoring Felicio. Sounds like a wonderful sanctuary. I'll definitely be checking into their Safety Net Program. Just wish it wasn't 1000 miles away. Sharyl --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 10:24 PM Friends of mine have CW Rustic Hollow Shelter (a sanctuary) in Iowa. It is an amazing place where the kitties are well cared for by a group of employees and visited every night by the women who run the shelter. Every kitty has access to a screened in porch area off their particular building or living space. These women have been at it for a number of years and know how to keep things clean and provide a stimulating environment for the kitties. Check out their website for info about sponsorships and estate planning (best to consult with them first, of course). One woman built her own building there for her cats (paid for by her estate). http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/ Laurie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten chronic loose stool
Tracey thanks for this post. I bought everything, using the recipe and resources on catinfo.org, during the food scare. I never got the courage to make the foodmaybe I will at some point. Soon, I hope. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 8:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten chronic loose stool A few months ago I found a kitten (Abbey) who was near death who tested +. She had uncontrollable diarrhea, I mean it was everywhere and I have 3 other cats, all -'s and I have fed them a homemade raw chicken and bones diet for the last 9 months. I started feeding her the raw diet. It was amazing! Within a week it was solid as can be, and she is really the picture of health. I took me a long time to make the decision to make my own food and it also took a while to get them switched over to this new diet, but it was well worth the effort! They are so healthy! Their coats are extremely shiny and softer, their temperaments are better, they are much more active (playing more than they ever did), and my 16 lb 'fat cat' has lost a little weight. I just couldn't believe it. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten chronic loose stool
Kerry, I've used one of Dr. Pitcairn's recipes for diarrhea, quite a few years ago - had rice in it, and some other ingredients I dont recall. I used it for Mr. Black Kitty, who was FELV/FIV positive. IT worked really well. I didn't use it exactly, used canned chicken rather than raw, and it still worked well. After a few weeks, I switched to a canned lamb and rice food, and he still did well on it. Just fyi - Gloria On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:56 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Hi all, My FeLV foster kitten, Daisy (about 14 weeks old now) has had soft stools, and sometimes uncontrollable diarrhea, ever since she was found in the street at 3 weeks. When I began fostering her about 5 weeks ago she had been taking meds for coccidia for several weeks without improvement. I took her to my vet, who has state of the art everything, including feces-testing methods, and he found that her coccidia had cleared up (it never actually goes away) and what she had was (bad) bacterial growth. He put her on a 3-meds treatment plan that included 5 days Panacure. She has control now, but her stool is still baby food consistency. My question is---have any of you ever used an exclusive diet of broiled or raw chicken to treat a *kitten's* diarrhea/loose stool? I've used it successfully with my former adult FeLV, Snoball, but I'm worried about the effects of an incomplete (albeit temporary) diet of this kind on a kitten. I'd also welcome hearing of any other successful ways that anyone may have found in treating kittens' loose stools. Thanks! Kerry M. _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten chronic loose stool
and i just have to add here that if any group of people should know that just because a vet says it, it does NOT make it so, it's this group. PLEASE read both sides of the raw-food debate, from various sources, before accepting someone else's word. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten chronic loose stool
That's an EXCELLENT website. Nothing straightens out cats and kittens like the recipe from catinfo.org. CRF, LK, cancer, symptomatic FIV, healthy cats, you name it, we've had cats on this diet with tremendous success and never once a bad result. You just have to treat the raw meat with respect.And nothing beats the entertainment of watching a kitten eat it. The growling, the sheer delight - very funny! --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten chronic loose stool To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 10:02 PM Tracey thanks for this post. I bought everything, using the recipe and resources on catinfo.org, during the food scare. I never got the courage to make the foodmaybe I will at some point. Soon, I hope. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 8:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten chronic loose stool A few months ago I found a kitten (Abbey) who was near death who tested +. She had uncontrollable diarrhea, I mean it was everywhere and I have 3 other cats, all -'s and I have fed them a homemade raw chicken and bones diet for the last 9 months. I started feeding her the raw diet. It was amazing! Within a week it was solid as can be, and she is really the picture of health. I took me a long time to make the decision to make my own food and it also took a while to get them switched over to this new diet, but it was well worth the effort! They are so healthy! Their coats are extremely shiny and softer, their temperaments are better, they are much more active (playing more than they ever did), and my 16 lb 'fat cat' has lost a little weight. I just couldn't believe it. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death
that is my problem, rural area about 2hrs drive from St. Louis, with no no kill sanctuary. i don't know about your area, but around here, a bullet is cheaper and easier than dealing with the animal is the general opinion. they all think i am nuts for taking in stray cats and dogs. ly take them in, but bring them in my house and take them to the vet and spend all that money! dorlis Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tamara, good advise. I'd love to volunteer at an organization that provides a final home for cats. My problem is I live in a rural area in VA with no sanctuaries within 100 miles. The local SPCA is pretty worthless when it comes to cats. Sharyl --- On Fri, 10/31/08, tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Seeking homes for cats after death To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 1:29 PM Just a word of advice, watch where you wind up leaving your cats. If it is to be to an organization, I would suggest you become active volunteers of the organization NOW and keep up a face to face envolvement throughout the rest of your life! By volunteering I have gathered intimate knowledge of an organization that I once thought was wonderful...and grew to knew it to be a place were I wouldn't leave a bug, much less a loved one, but you'd NEVER know it to visit or to read the newsletter. The more I volunteered at different organizations the more I have become convinced that as I go through life, I (and I'm only speaking of myself here, not passing judgement on anyone else or meaning to preach) have to be certain to only take in as many animals at a time as I have friends and relatives to take care of them should something happen to me. Even then, there is no guarantee. But if you are active, involved physcially NOT just financially, you will make contacts with others who have the same interests and concern as you do. Then, even should the organization take a turn for the worse, you still have personal contacts who may take a personal interest in your cats and do everything in their power to make certain they get a fair shake...even if the organization is full and can't take any more animals at the time you need them to. Remember, being physcially involved can be a low stress as you need it to befrom just visiting every week or so, to perhaps groom or play with the cats being sheltered to answering phones to working the occasional weekend adoption events. Tamara ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Essential oil for calming cats
hi, the aspca has some good information on essential oils and cats. their physiology is different form all others and they are extremely sensitive, especially tea tree oil. i have been trying to get defining research on the subject for a few years now. so far, aspca has best answer. dorlis MacKenzie wrote: Thanks MC. My plan was always to diffuse, not to apply to cat. I'll check out holisticat! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Essential oil for calming cats my understanding is that cats aren't able to break down the actual oils themselves in the same manner that other species are, so that they act as much more powerful concentrates--there are safe and effective ways to dilute the oils into various forms that aren't harmful (they've been years for centuries, after all, especially for pest-relief), but you can't just assume that one form will work for each oil. so i'd go with the no direct contact, and look information on the specific oil before making it into any sort of a topical (the new line of paul mitchell flea shampoos contains tea tree oil, which is considered toxic to cats--in a higher than, i think, 1% concentration.. so you really DO need to look around.) i'd check out WELL-ESTABLISHED herbalist sites, or someplace like www.holisticat.com, rather than any place that SELLS the products. just my bias. and then do a search for lavender essential oil toxicity in felines or something similar, just to see what comes up. i've never, however, heard that the diffused oils are harmful, tho there is always the question of the plug-in diffusers and whether THEY are safe. MC On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would never put a drop of essential oil on a cat. There probably are safe ones to use but the majority are harmful. I don't know about using a diffuser. Some cats are sensitive/allergic to fragrances. It would depend on your cat. Sharyl --- On Fri, 10/31/08, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Essential oil for calming cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, felvpositivecats [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 9:29 AM Dear all Does anyone know anything about the safety of using essential oils in a kitty household? My aromatherapist friend says: There seem to be two schools of thought, one of which (internet) is that essential oils in a diffuser can be too strong for cats, but that hydrosols (also called hydrolats or floral waters) are safe to use, simply sprayed into the air. The other source said that a single drop of essential oil [sweet orange] in a diffuser was useful to calm cats. I don't think myself that a drop of essential oil in a diffuser could do cats much harm. If this was harmful, I'm sure it would be well known. I've never seen any warning about not using a diffuser if you have a cat - or two! Thanks! Kerry M. _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing
Re: [Felvtalk] Essential oil for calming cats
i would not even diffuse oils in a room where my cats spend time. i used to a diffuser for myself, but stopped it. i put oils on myself, but am careful that the cats don't lick or sniff at it. just too risky. my chiropractor uses oils all the time on her Tennessee Walkers, but not cats. dorlis MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my understanding is that cats aren't able to break down the actual oils themselves in the same manner that other species are, so that they act as much more powerful concentrates--there are safe and effective ways to dilute the oils into various forms that aren't harmful (they've been years for centuries, after all, especially for pest-relief), but you can't just assume that one form will work for each oil. so i'd go with the no direct contact, and look information on the specific oil before making it into any sort of a topical (the new line of paul mitchell flea shampoos contains tea tree oil, which is considered toxic to cats--in a higher than, i think, 1% concentration.. so you really DO need to look around.) i'd check out WELL-ESTABLISHED herbalist sites, or someplace like www.holisticat.com, rather than any place that SELLS the products. just my bias. and then do a search for lavender essential oil toxicity in felines or something similar, just to see what comes up. i've never, however, heard that the diffused oils are harmful, tho there is always the question of the plug-in diffusers and whether THEY are safe. MC On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would never put a drop of essential oil on a cat. There probably are safe ones to use but the majority are harmful. I don't know about using a diffuser. Some cats are sensitive/allergic to fragrances. It would depend on your cat. Sharyl --- On Fri, 10/31/08, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Essential oil for calming cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, felvpositivecats [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 9:29 AM Dear all Does anyone know anything about the safety of using essential oils in a kitty household? My aromatherapist friend says: There seem to be two schools of thought, one of which (internet) is that essential oils in a diffuser can be too strong for cats, but that hydrosols (also called hydrolats or floral waters) are safe to use, simply sprayed into the air. The other source said that a single drop of essential oil [sweet orange] in a diffuser was useful to calm cats. I don't think myself that a drop of essential oil in a diffuser could do cats much harm. If this was harmful, I'm sure it would be well known. I've never seen any warning about not using a diffuser if you have a cat - or two! Thanks! Kerry M. _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Essential oil for calming cats
no, hydrosols are just as bad. see aspca info on that dorlis MacKenzie wrote: Thanks Sharyl-- I think I'll disregard oils and look at hydrosols instead. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:57 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Essential oil for calming cats I would never put a drop of essential oil on a cat. There probably are safe ones to use but the majority are harmful. I don't know about using a diffuser. Some cats are sensitive/allergic to fragrances. It would depend on your cat. Sharyl --- On Fri, 10/31/08, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Essential oil for calming cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, felvpositivecats [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 9:29 AM Dear all Does anyone know anything about the safety of using essential oils in a kitty household? My aromatherapist friend says: There seem to be two schools of thought, one of which (internet) is that essential oils in a diffuser can be too strong for cats, but that hydrosols (also called hydrolats or floral waters) are safe to use, simply sprayed into the air. The other source said that a single drop of essential oil [sweet orange] in a diffuser was useful to calm cats. I don't think myself that a drop of essential oil in a diffuser could do cats much harm. If this was harmful, I'm sure it would be well known. I've never seen any warning about not using a diffuser if you have a cat - or two! Thanks! Kerry M. _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
