date:20141114

I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia positive 
cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by somebody that adopted 
out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found outdoors.  She got a call from 
the adopters that the kitten tested positive and that the people needed to 
bring him back.  She wanted help so we paid to have all 5 kittens tested this 
week.  All five are positive.  The foster is willing to hold them for 30 days 
so we can retest them but she does not want to euthanize (nor would we suggest 
that) and she can't keep them.  She has five cats of her own and can't take 
another 5.  She would like us to try to find adoptive homes for them.

We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes and 
do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We would love to 
find homes for them with people that know this disease.  We have a black, a 
blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie.  Pictures are available if 
you email me.  We will determine sex and give them names soon.  We will also 
retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA to make sure they are positive if 
somebody wants them sooner and has other leuk positives.  We wouldn't want to 
send them to a home with leukemia if there is any chance they are going to 
fight it off but will all five positive, we suspect some or all of them will 
remain positive.

These kittens will not be free.  We will do all the vetting on them - 
spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies, distemper, flea and parasite treatment, 
etc., and will charge a $115 adoption fee.  We are a rescue and will not adopt 
out animals that are not fully vetted and we don't do free adoptions.  We are 
aware that they may not live past a year or two but they still deserve a 
loving, responsible home and proper veterinary care.  

If anybody is interested in helping one of these little beauties, please let us 
know.

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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-14 Thread dlgegg

MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8 YEARS OLD 
.

 Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia 
 positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by somebody 
 that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found outdoors.  She 
 got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive and that the 
 people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help so we paid to have all 5 
 kittens tested this week.  All five are positive.  The foster is willing to 
 hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not want to 
 euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them.  She has five 
 cats of her own and can't take another 5.  She would like us to try to find 
 adoptive homes for them.
 
 We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes and 
 do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We would love to 
 find homes for them with people that know this disease.  We have a black, a 
 blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie.  Pictures are available 
 if you email me.  We will determine sex and give them names soon.  We will 
 also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA to make sure they are 
 positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other leuk positives.  We 
 wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if there is any chance 
 they are going to fight it off but will all five positive, we suspect some or 
 all of them will remain positive.
 
 These kittens will not be free.  We will do all the vetting on them - 
 spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies, distemper, flea and parasite treatment, 
 etc., and will charge a $115 adoption fee.  We are a rescue and will not 
 adopt out animals that are not fully vetted and we don't do free adoptions.  
 We are aware that they may not live past a year or two but they still deserve 
 a loving, responsible home and proper veterinary care.  
 
 If anybody is interested in helping one of these little beauties, please let 
 us know.
 
 Amy Weygandt


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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive but I 
didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten or an 
adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also got her 
around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had with leukemia 
as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can defy the odds and 
I always tell people that but I will warn people that there may be heartbreak 
ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me from helping these little 
ones though.  They are all so special.

We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and the 
specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best for 
these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!



 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
 

MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8 YEARS OLD 
.




 Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia 
 positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by somebody 
 that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found outdoors.  She 
 got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive and that the 
 people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help so we paid to have all 5 
 kittens tested this week.  All five are positive.  The foster is willing to 
 hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not want to 
 euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them.  She has five 
 cats of her own and can't take another 5.  She would like us to try to find 
 adoptive homes for them.
 
 We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes and 
 do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We would love to 
 find homes for them with people that know this disease.  We have a black, a 
 blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie.  Pictures are available 
 if you email me.  We will determine sex and give them names soon.  We will 
 also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA to make sure they are 
 positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other leuk positives.  We 
 wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if there is any chance 
 they are going to fight it off but will all five positive, we suspect some or 
 all of them will remain positive.
 
 These kittens will not be free.  We will do all the vetting on them - 
 spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies, distemper, flea and parasite treatment, 
 etc., and will charge a $115 adoption fee.  We are a rescue and will not 
 adopt out animals that are not fully vetted and we don't do free adoptions.  
 We are aware that they may not live past a year or two but they still deserve 
 a loving, responsible home and proper veterinary care.  
 
 If anybody is interested in helping one of these little beauties, please let 
 us know.
 
 Amy Weygandt


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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-14 Thread dlgegg

I GOT ANNIE AS AN ADULT OF 4 YRS, BUT THE VET THINKS SHE WAS ALWAYS POSITIVE.  
SHE HAD NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE LADY'S HOUSE AND WAS SPOILED ROTTEN.  I HAVE HAD 
NO PROBLEMS WITH MY OTHER CATS WHO WERE ANYWHERE FROM 1 YEAR TO 10 YEARS.  MOST 
DIE OF OLD AGE AT 18 OR SO.  YOU DO HAVE TO BE VERY OBSERVANT AND CATCH ANY 
PROBLEM BEFORE IT CAN GET STARTED.  
I AGREE, YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, BUT IF THEY REALLY LOVE CATS, THEY WILL TAKE 
THE CHANCE AND LOVE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE GONE.  WHAT YOU GET FROM THEM IN THAT 
SHORT TIME IS WORTH IT.

 Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive but I 
 didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten or an 
 adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also got her 
 around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had with leukemia 
 as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can defy the odds 
 and I always tell people that but I will warn people that there may be 
 heartbreak ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me from helping 
 these little ones though.  They are all so special.
 
 We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and the 
 specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best for 
 these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!
 
 
 
  From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
 To: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
  
 
 MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8 YEARS 
 OLD .
 
 
 
 
  Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: 
  I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia 
  positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by somebody 
  that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found outdoors.  She 
  got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive and that the 
  people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help so we paid to have all 5 
  kittens tested this week.  All five are positive.  The foster is willing to 
  hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not want to 
  euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them.  She has 
  five cats of her own and can't take another 5.  She would like us to try to 
  find adoptive homes for them.
  
  We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes 
  and do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We would 
  love to find homes for them with people that know this disease.  We have a 
  black, a blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie.  Pictures are 
  available if you email me.  We will determine sex and give them names soon. 
   We will also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA to make sure 
  they are positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other leuk 
  positives.  We wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if there 
  is any chance they are going to fight it off but will all five positive, we 
  suspect some or all of them will remain positive.
  
  These kittens will not be free.  We will do all the vetting on them - 
  spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies, distemper, flea and parasite 
  treatment, etc., and will charge a $115 adoption fee.  We are a rescue and 
  will not adopt out animals that are not fully vetted and we don't do free 
  adoptions.  We are aware that they may not live past a year or two but they 
  still deserve a loving, responsible home and proper veterinary care.  
  
  If anybody is interested in helping one of these little beauties, please 
  let us know.
  
  Amy Weygandt
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

I must not be getting all the posts.  FELV+ kittens are very hard to
place,and the adoption fee you are charging doesn't make it easier.  I too
do rescue.   We adopted out a double positive cat to a person on this list.
We altered her, vaccinated her, tested and retested her.  We charged $25
and today I doubt we'd charge that. She went to an excellent home, we got
pictures and updates.  She recently was euthanized due to severe
cardiomyopathy and lived 7.5 years.  I wish you the best of luck testing
your 5.  Maybe someone here has room for a new kitty:)

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I GOT ANNIE AS AN ADULT OF 4 YRS, BUT THE VET THINKS SHE WAS ALWAYS
 POSITIVE.  SHE HAD NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE LADY'S HOUSE AND WAS SPOILED
 ROTTEN.  I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH MY OTHER CATS WHO WERE ANYWHERE FROM 1
 YEAR TO 10 YEARS.  MOST DIE OF OLD AGE AT 18 OR SO.  YOU DO HAVE TO BE VERY
 OBSERVANT AND CATCH ANY PROBLEM BEFORE IT CAN GET STARTED.
 I AGREE, YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, BUT IF THEY REALLY LOVE CATS, THEY WILL
 TAKE THE CHANCE AND LOVE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE GONE.  WHAT YOU GET FROM THEM
 IN THAT SHORT TIME IS WORTH IT.

  Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive
 but I didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten
 or an adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also
 got her around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had
 with leukemia as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can
 defy the odds and I always tell people that but I will warn people that
 there may be heartbreak ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me
 from helping these little ones though.  They are all so special.
 
  We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and
 the specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best
 for these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!
 
 
  
   From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
  To: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
 
 
  MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8
 YEARS OLD .
 
 
 
 
   Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
   I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia
 positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by somebody
 that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found outdoors.  She
 got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive and that the
 people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help so we paid to have all 5
 kittens tested this week.  All five are positive.  The foster is willing to
 hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not want to
 euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them.  She has
 five cats of her own and can't take another 5.  She would like us to try to
 find adoptive homes for them.
  
   We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the
 homes and do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We
 would love to find homes for them with people that know this disease.  We
 have a black, a blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie.
 Pictures are available if you email me.  We will determine sex and give
 them names soon.  We will also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA
 to make sure they are positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other
 leuk positives.  We wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if
 there is any chance they are going to fight it off but will all five
 positive, we suspect some or all of them will remain positive.
  
   These kittens will not be free.  We will do all the vetting on them -
 spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies, distemper, flea and parasite
 treatment, etc., and will charge a $115 adoption fee.  We are a rescue and
 will not adopt out animals that are not fully vetted and we don't do free
 adoptions.  We are aware that they may not live past a year or two but they
 still deserve a loving, responsible home and proper veterinary care.
  
   If anybody is interested in helping one of these little beauties,
 please let us know.
  
   Amy Weygandt
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-14 Thread Katherine K.

Amy,
I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter of 4
positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, with no
luck, so they lived with me until they passed away, most before they were 1
year old. It was a very busy year, but they were a lovely little group and
it was nice seeing them stay together as a family for the time they had.
I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not
likely to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people just
don't want to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, a kitty
who will probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be working with a
larger rescue organization who covered their shots, spay/neuters and
testing expenses. I just provided the home, food, love and tears :)
I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make them
sound very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all it's worth!
:)
Good luck,
Katherine

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Kelley S moonv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I must not be getting all the posts.  FELV+ kittens are very hard to
 place,and the adoption fee you are charging doesn't make it easier.  I too
 do rescue.   We adopted out a double positive cat to a person on this list.
 We altered her, vaccinated her, tested and retested her.  We charged $25
 and today I doubt we'd charge that. She went to an excellent home, we got
 pictures and updates.  She recently was euthanized due to severe
 cardiomyopathy and lived 7.5 years.  I wish you the best of luck testing
 your 5.  Maybe someone here has room for a new kitty:)

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I GOT ANNIE AS AN ADULT OF 4 YRS, BUT THE VET THINKS SHE WAS ALWAYS
 POSITIVE.  SHE HAD NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE LADY'S HOUSE AND WAS SPOILED
 ROTTEN.  I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH MY OTHER CATS WHO WERE ANYWHERE FROM 1
 YEAR TO 10 YEARS.  MOST DIE OF OLD AGE AT 18 OR SO.  YOU DO HAVE TO BE VERY
 OBSERVANT AND CATCH ANY PROBLEM BEFORE IT CAN GET STARTED.
 I AGREE, YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, BUT IF THEY REALLY LOVE CATS, THEY WILL
 TAKE THE CHANCE AND LOVE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE GONE.  WHAT YOU GET FROM THEM
 IN THAT SHORT TIME IS WORTH IT.

  Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive
 but I didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten
 or an adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also
 got her around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had
 with leukemia as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can
 defy the odds and I always tell people that but I will warn people that
 there may be heartbreak ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me
 from helping these little ones though.  They are all so special.
 
  We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and
 the specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best
 for these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!
 
 
  
   From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
  To: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
 
 
  MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8
 YEARS OLD .
 
 
 
 
   Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
   I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned
 leukemia positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by
 somebody that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found
 outdoors.  She got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive
 and that the people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help so we paid
 to have all 5 kittens tested this week.  All five are positive.  The foster
 is willing to hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not
 want to euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them.  She
 has five cats of her own and can't take another 5.  She would like us to
 try to find adoptive homes for them.
  
   We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the
 homes and do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We
 would love to find homes for them with people that know this disease.  We
 have a black, a blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie.
 Pictures are available if you email me.  We will determine sex and give
 them names soon.  We will also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA
 to make sure they are positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other
 leuk positives.  We wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if
 there is any chance they are going to fight it off but will all five
 positive, we suspect some or all of them will remain positive.
  
   These kittens will not be free.  We will do all the vetting on them -
 spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies,

Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-14 Thread Jennifer Lewis

I agree with Katherine. My rescue group was just happy that I was able to take 
and keep 2 + kitties that otherwise would have gone to a sanctuary after their 
long term fosters failed and bailed on them. 
As desperate as all rescue groups are for funds, they never even suggested a 
fee for either kitty. My baby Smoosh lasted for 14 months as she inherited the 
FeLV from her mother. Brynn came to me as an adult and is still here with us. 
We often think of getting her a companion, but our living situation is tenuous 
right now and we're in a holding pattern.
On Nov 14, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 Amy,
 I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter of 4 
 positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, with no 
 luck, so they lived with me until they passed away, most before they were 1 
 year old. It was a very busy year, but they were a lovely little group and it 
 was nice seeing them stay together as a family for the time they had. 
 I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not likely 
 to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people just don't 
 want to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, a kitty who will 
 probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be working with a larger rescue 
 organization who covered their shots, spay/neuters and testing expenses. I 
 just provided the home, food, love and tears :) 
 I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make them sound 
 very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all it's worth! :)
 Good luck,
 Katherine
 
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Kelley S moonv...@gmail.com wrote:
 I must not be getting all the posts.  FELV+ kittens are very hard to 
 place,and the adoption fee you are charging doesn't make it easier.  I too do 
 rescue.   We adopted out a double positive cat to a person on this list. We 
 altered her, vaccinated her, tested and retested her.  We charged $25 and 
 today I doubt we'd charge that. She went to an excellent home, we got 
 pictures and updates.  She recently was euthanized due to severe 
 cardiomyopathy and lived 7.5 years.  I wish you the best of luck testing your 
 5.  Maybe someone here has room for a new kitty:)
 
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 I GOT ANNIE AS AN ADULT OF 4 YRS, BUT THE VET THINKS SHE WAS ALWAYS POSITIVE. 
  SHE HAD NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE LADY'S HOUSE AND WAS SPOILED ROTTEN.  I HAVE 
 HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH MY OTHER CATS WHO WERE ANYWHERE FROM 1 YEAR TO 10 YEARS. 
  MOST DIE OF OLD AGE AT 18 OR SO.  YOU DO HAVE TO BE VERY OBSERVANT AND CATCH 
 ANY PROBLEM BEFORE IT CAN GET STARTED.
 I AGREE, YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, BUT IF THEY REALLY LOVE CATS, THEY WILL 
 TAKE THE CHANCE AND LOVE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE GONE.  WHAT YOU GET FROM THEM IN 
 THAT SHORT TIME IS WORTH IT.
 
  Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive but I 
  didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten or an 
  adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also got her 
  around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had with 
  leukemia as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can defy 
  the odds and I always tell people that but I will warn people that there 
  may be heartbreak ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me from 
  helping these little ones though.  They are all so special.
 
  We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and the 
  specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best for 
  these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!
 
 
  
   From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
  To: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
 
 
  MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8 YEARS 
  OLD .
 
 
 
 
   Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
   I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia 
   positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by 
   somebody that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found 
   outdoors.  She got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested 
   positive and that the people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help 
   so we paid to have all 5 kittens tested this week.  All five are 
   positive.  The foster is willing to hold them for 30 days so we can 
   retest them but she does not want to euthanize (nor would we suggest 
   that) and she can't keep them.  She has five cats of her own and can't 
   take another 5.  She would like us to try to find adoptive homes for them.
  
   We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes 
   and do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service

Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

Some adopters may make a donation to the organization they adopt a 
zero-fee cat from.  I did.  You might make a cat low or no fee, but say, 
donations gratefully accepted.  If you list on PetFinder, consider 
adding FeLV+ to the heading, besides just listing them as special 
needs.  Some people are looking specifically for a FeLV+ cat as a 
companion for one they already have, and not putting that in the heading 
forces those people to sift through every special needs listing to find 
the FeLV+ kitty.  I turned to PetFinder after having no luck locally 
finding a companion for Harley, and did a search by zip code.  I 
specified up to 100 miles, and that's how I found Brock.  Actually, 
113 miles away, but the search goes by zip code.


There are also some listings here (up for adoption or looking to adopt 
FeLV, FIV, FIP +): 
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi

You can also get to that by the felineleukemia.org website.

One other place to list is the PurringPixie yahoo group.

Marsha
(with Harley  Brock)

On 11/14/2014 11:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

Amy,
I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter 
of 4 positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, 
with no luck, so they lived with me until they passed away, most 
before they were 1 year old. It was a very busy year, but they were a 
lovely little group and it was nice seeing them stay together as a 
family for the time they had.
I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not 
likely to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people 
just don't want to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, 
a kitty who will probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be 
working with a larger rescue organization who covered their shots, 
spay/neuters and testing expenses. I just provided the home, food, 
love and tears :)
I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make 
them sound very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all 
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There are some other places to list on Facebook, if you would like the
links.  One thing that struck me when I read your post was confusion on my
part as to what exactly you wanted.  It seemed to me reading it, and I may
be reading things into this, that you did not want the kittens to go to a
home with FELV+ cats in there already.   That, in addition to the adoption
fee, is going to make it *almost* impossible to ever find these kittens a
home (nothing is 100% impossible of course).  Also, once you adopt the
kitten out, you don't have control over what the adopters do later.  They
may bring in FELV+ cats later.  My heart kitty died of heart disease
brought on by a congenital defect.  I spent a lot of time holding her and
crying because she was going to die.  They are all going to die, we hope
after many years in a happy home.  I spent more time mourning her death
than I did celebrating her life.  This was  a grave mistake on my part.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 Some adopters may make a donation to the organization they adopt a
 zero-fee cat from.  I did.  You might make a cat low or no fee, but say,
 donations gratefully accepted.  If you list on PetFinder, consider adding
 FeLV+ to the heading, besides just listing them as special needs.  Some
 people are looking specifically for a FeLV+ cat as a companion for one they
 already have, and not putting that in the heading forces those people to
 sift through every special needs listing to find the FeLV+ kitty.  I turned
 to PetFinder after having no luck locally finding a companion for Harley,
 and did a search by zip code.  I specified up to 100 miles, and that's
 how I found Brock.  Actually, 113 miles away, but the search goes by zip
 code.

 There are also some listings here (up for adoption or looking to adopt
 FeLV, FIV, FIP +): http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/
 classifieds/classifieds.cgi
 You can also get to that by the felineleukemia.org website.

 One other place to list is the PurringPixie yahoo group.

 Marsha
 (with Harley  Brock)

 On 11/14/2014 11:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 Amy,
 I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter of 4
 positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, with no
 luck, so they lived with me until they passed away, most before they were 1
 year old. It was a very busy year, but they were a lovely little group and
 it was nice seeing them stay together as a family for the time they had.
 I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not
 likely to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people just
 don't want to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, a kitty
 who will probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be working with a
 larger rescue organization who covered their shots, spay/neuters and
 testing expenses. I just provided the home, food, love and tears :)
 I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make them
 sound very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all it's worth!
 :)



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Not directly FELV+ related, but I think it could be an important tool for
keeping up with your cats' health:

http://www.cnet.com/news/smart-litter-box-gadget-tailio-monitors-your-cats-health/
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Kelly, now *I'm* confused.  I don't want anything.  I was just sharing 
my personal experiences and putting some suggestions out there.  Some of 
the resources you or others may already know about, but others might be 
new to some people.  Feel free to list your Facebook resources so people 
here are aware of those too.   Or maybe you were really replying to the 
same person I was replying to?


Idea for everyone:  make up a flyer with some basic info about FeLV, 
with a picture of one or more or your FeLV+ cats looking happy and 
living the good life.  Maybe put a link on the flyer to 
felineleukemia.org or other resource(s).  Distribute the flyer to local 
vet offices for when the vet gets a client with a cat that tests 
positive.  The vet could show the flyer to the owner so that the owner 
can see that there is support available, and that FeLV+ cats can live a 
happy life for a variable number of years.


Marsha

On 11/14/2014 1:00 PM, Kelley S wrote:
There are some other places to list on Facebook, if you would like the 
links.  One thing that struck me when I read your post was confusion 
on my part as to what exactly you wanted.  It seemed to me reading it, 
and I may be reading things into this, that you did not want the 
kittens to go to a home with FELV+ cats in there already.   That, in 
addition to the adoption fee, is going to make it *almost* impossible 
to ever find these kittens a home (nothing is 100% impossible of 
course).  Also, once you adopt the kitten out, you don't have control 
over what the adopters do later.  They may bring in FELV+ cats later.  
My heart kitty died of heart disease brought on by a congenital 
defect.  I spent a lot of time holding her and crying because she was 
going to die.  They are all going to die, we hope after many years in 
a happy home.  I spent more time mourning her death than I did 
celebrating her life.  This was  a grave mistake on my part.


On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com 
mailto:mar...@lynxe.com wrote:


Some adopters may make a donation to the organization they adopt a
zero-fee cat from.  I did.  You might make a cat low or no fee,
but say, donations gratefully accepted.  If you list on
PetFinder, consider adding FeLV+ to the heading, besides just
listing them as special needs.  Some people are looking
specifically for a FeLV+ cat as a companion for one they already
have, and not putting that in the heading forces those people to
sift through every special needs listing to find the FeLV+ kitty. 
I turned to PetFinder after having no luck locally finding a

companion for Harley, and did a search by zip code.  I specified
up to 100 miles, and that's how I found Brock.  Actually, 113
miles away, but the search goes by zip code.

There are also some listings here (up for adoption or looking to
adopt FeLV, FIV, FIP +):
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi
You can also get to that by the felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org website.

One other place to list is the PurringPixie yahoo group.



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2014-11-14 Thread Maya D'Alessio

My cat Yang who I lost this summer made it to 3 with feline leukemia. She
had to have gotten it as a kitten, I adopted her at five months and she
hadn't been exposed since entering my care. We didn't know she had it until
she had to be put down. It was a terrible shock, but she lived an excellent
life up until two days before we put her down.
On Nov 14, 2014 2:39 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

  Kelly, now *I'm* confused.  I don't want anything.  I was just sharing
 my personal experiences and putting some suggestions out there.  Some of
 the resources you or others may already know about, but others might be new
 to some people.  Feel free to list your Facebook resources so people here
 are aware of those too.   Or maybe you were really replying to the same
 person I was replying to?

 Idea for everyone:  make up a flyer with some basic info about FeLV, with
 a picture of one or more or your FeLV+ cats looking happy and living the
 good life.  Maybe put a link on the flyer to felineleukemia.org or other
 resource(s).  Distribute the flyer to local vet offices for when the vet
 gets a client with a cat that tests positive.  The vet could show the flyer
 to the owner so that the owner can see that there is support available, and
 that FeLV+ cats can live a happy life for a variable number of years.

 Marsha

 On 11/14/2014 1:00 PM, Kelley S wrote:

 There are some other places to list on Facebook, if you would like the
 links.  One thing that struck me when I read your post was confusion on my
 part as to what exactly you wanted.  It seemed to me reading it, and I may
 be reading things into this, that you did not want the kittens to go to a
 home with FELV+ cats in there already.   That, in addition to the adoption
 fee, is going to make it *almost* impossible to ever find these kittens a
 home (nothing is 100% impossible of course).  Also, once you adopt the
 kitten out, you don't have control over what the adopters do later.  They
 may bring in FELV+ cats later.  My heart kitty died of heart disease
 brought on by a congenital defect.  I spent a lot of time holding her and
 crying because she was going to die.  They are all going to die, we hope
 after many years in a happy home.  I spent more time mourning her death
 than I did celebrating her life.  This was  a grave mistake on my part.

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 Some adopters may make a donation to the organization they adopt a
 zero-fee cat from.  I did.  You might make a cat low or no fee, but say,
 donations gratefully accepted.  If you list on PetFinder, consider adding
 FeLV+ to the heading, besides just listing them as special needs.  Some
 people are looking specifically for a FeLV+ cat as a companion for one they
 already have, and not putting that in the heading forces those people to
 sift through every special needs listing to find the FeLV+ kitty.  I turned
 to PetFinder after having no luck locally finding a companion for Harley,
 and did a search by zip code.  I specified up to 100 miles, and that's
 how I found Brock.  Actually, 113 miles away, but the search goes by zip
 code.

 There are also some listings here (up for adoption or looking to adopt
 FeLV, FIV, FIP +):
 http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi
 You can also get to that by the felineleukemia.org website.

 One other place to list is the PurringPixie yahoo group.



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Marsha..sorry..when I said I don't know what you want I was referring to
the OP, who if I recall correctly said something along the lines of we
don't want these cats in with other FELV+ cats if they could possibly be
negative.  So the way I read her post was:  we want people with no cats
who are willing to take the very probable heartbreak of a FELV+ kitten and
promise to not expose it to other FELV+ cats and who will pay us over a
hundred dollars for doing so.  This is possible, but not very likely
IMHO.   Even in our rescue, after a certain point they would eat up over
$100 worth of food and we would be losing money even if we did get $100
plus for them.  More importantly, everyone is limited in space, and an
animal in a foster home means another animal your rescue cannot help.
The facebook group is interesting, and I encourage those on Facebook to
join, not that I want to take traffic away from here, but most are very
very very very stridently against mixing.I tried to get them to come
here, but haven't had any luck that I know of.  There is a very strange
situation going on there that I'd like to get some input on.  There is a
kitten who has tested (snap and IFA) pos for FELV.  This kitten came from a
breeder who tests all her cats regularly and none has ever tested
positive.  The kitten's owner took the kitten to the vet as per contract
within 10 days of buying the cat and got a positive test.  Rechecked with
IFA, still positive.  ALL THE OTHER CATS were retested by the breeder and
are still negative.  All the other kittens in the litter have tested
negative.  HOW did this kitten contract FELV?

Anyway here is the link:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/


On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

  Kelly, now *I'm* confused.  I don't want anything.  I was just sharing
 my personal experiences and putting some suggestions out there.  Some of
 the resources you or others may already know about, but others might be new
 to some people.  Feel free to list your Facebook resources so people here
 are aware of those too.   Or maybe you were really replying to the same
 person I was replying to?

 Idea for everyone:  make up a flyer with some basic info about FeLV, with
 a picture of one or more or your FeLV+ cats looking happy and living the
 good life.  Maybe put a link on the flyer to felineleukemia.org or other
 resource(s).  Distribute the flyer to local vet offices for when the vet
 gets a client with a cat that tests positive.  The vet could show the flyer
 to the owner so that the owner can see that there is support available, and
 that FeLV+ cats can live a happy life for a variable number of years.

 Marsha

 On 11/14/2014 1:00 PM, Kelley S wrote:

 There are some other places to list on Facebook, if you would like the
 links.  One thing that struck me when I read your post was confusion on my
 part as to what exactly you wanted.  It seemed to me reading it, and I may
 be reading things into this, that you did not want the kittens to go to a
 home with FELV+ cats in there already.   That, in addition to the adoption
 fee, is going to make it *almost* impossible to ever find these kittens a
 home (nothing is 100% impossible of course).  Also, once you adopt the
 kitten out, you don't have control over what the adopters do later.  They
 may bring in FELV+ cats later.  My heart kitty died of heart disease
 brought on by a congenital defect.  I spent a lot of time holding her and
 crying because she was going to die.  They are all going to die, we hope
 after many years in a happy home.  I spent more time mourning her death
 than I did celebrating her life.  This was  a grave mistake on my part.

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 Some adopters may make a donation to the organization they adopt a
 zero-fee cat from.  I did.  You might make a cat low or no fee, but say,
 donations gratefully accepted.  If you list on PetFinder, consider adding
 FeLV+ to the heading, besides just listing them as special needs.  Some
 people are looking specifically for a FeLV+ cat as a companion for one they
 already have, and not putting that in the heading forces those people to
 sift through every special needs listing to find the FeLV+ kitty.  I turned
 to PetFinder after having no luck locally finding a companion for Harley,
 and did a search by zip code.  I specified up to 100 miles, and that's
 how I found Brock.  Actually, 113 miles away, but the search goes by zip
 code.

 There are also some listings here (up for adoption or looking to adopt
 FeLV, FIV, FIP +):
 http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi
 You can also get to that by the felineleukemia.org website.

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Kelly, I think she wants to wait until they are confirmed positive with 
an IFA before adopting them out to a home with other FeLV+ cats.  She 
did mention the hope to find homes that are familiar with FeLV.


 I kept Brock quarantined from Harley until I got a positive IFA test 
on Brock.  Brock had ony ever had a single Snap test at the shelter to 
say he was FeLV+.  Looking back, I would have requested (and paid for) a 
vet local to the shelter to do an IFA.  That would have made it  easier 
for the shelter to adopt out a negative cat, while I continued to search 
for a positive companion for Harley.  But I had already brought Brock 
home, so if he had by chance tested negative on my vet's IFA, then I 
would have kept him separate from my negatives until he got a 2nd 
negative, then be put with them instead, and I would then have searched 
for another possible companion for Harley.  Someday I may consider 
mixing negatives  positives, especially if treatments are developed 
like there are for HIV, where it's not cured, but knocks the 
transmissible virus load to near zero.  But for now I keep them 
separate, because I don't want to deal with the guilt I would have if 
just ONE negative cat got infected.


As for the lone FeLV+ kitten, that's pretty bizarre.  I don't think 
there's any way for anyone not directly involved to know what happened.  
Most likely either the breeder or the buyer knows or suspects, but isn't 
telling.  The only other possibility I can think of is that the virus 
somehow was passed genetically, and the exact right circumstances 
allowed it to manifest in one kitten. Kind of like FIP, in that the 
virus infects a large percentage of cats, but only a few have the 
genetic susceptibility, and the right circumstances for it to manifest 
into FIP disease.  But that doesn't seem so likely.


Marsha

On 11/14/2014 2:05 PM, Kelley S wrote:
Marsha..sorry..when I said I don't know what you want I was 
referring to the OP, who if I recall correctly said something along 
the lines of we don't want these cats in with other FELV+ cats if 
they could possibly be negative. So the way I read her post was:  we 
want people with no cats who are willing to take the very probable 
heartbreak of a FELV+ kitten and promise to not expose it to other 
FELV+ cats and who will pay us over a hundred dollars for doing so.  
This is possible, but not very likely IMHO.   Even in our rescue, 
after a certain point they would eat up over $100 worth of food and we 
would be losing money even if we did get $100 plus for them.  More 
importantly, everyone is limited in space, and an animal in a foster 
home means another animal your rescue cannot help.
The facebook group is interesting, and I encourage those on Facebook 
to join, not that I want to take traffic away from here, but most are 
very very very very stridently against mixing.I tried to get them 
to come here, but haven't had any luck that I know of.  There is a 
very strange situation going on there that I'd like to get some input 
on.  There is a kitten who has tested (snap and IFA) pos for FELV.  
This kitten came from a breeder who tests all her cats regularly and 
none has ever tested positive.  The kitten's owner took the kitten to 
the vet as per contract within 10 days of buying the cat and got a 
positive test.  Rechecked with IFA, still positive.  ALL THE OTHER 
CATS were retested by the breeder and are still negative.  All the 
other kittens in the litter have tested negative.  HOW did this kitten 
contract FELV?


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I thought it would be interesting to get yall involved in the discussion
there. It is CRAZY.  There is also some really hopeful anecdotal evidence
about treating non-regenerative anemia with aquapuncture.  Again, not
trying to drive traffic from this list, and I've tried to get them to come
here, but if you are interested go on over.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 Kelly, I think she wants to wait until they are confirmed positive with an
 IFA before adopting them out to a home with other FeLV+ cats.  She did
 mention the hope to find homes that are familiar with FeLV.

  I kept Brock quarantined from Harley until I got a positive IFA test on
 Brock.  Brock had ony ever had a single Snap test at the shelter to say he
 was FeLV+.  Looking back, I would have requested (and paid for) a vet local
 to the shelter to do an IFA.  That would have made it  easier for the
 shelter to adopt out a negative cat, while I continued to search for a
 positive companion for Harley.  But I had already brought Brock home, so if
 he had by chance tested negative on my vet's IFA, then I would have kept
 him separate from my negatives until he got a 2nd negative, then be put
 with them instead, and I would then have searched for another possible
 companion for Harley.  Someday I may consider mixing negatives  positives,
 especially if treatments are developed like there are for HIV, where it's
 not cured, but knocks the transmissible virus load to near zero.  But for
 now I keep them separate, because I don't want to deal with the guilt I
 would have if just ONE negative cat got infected.

 As for the lone FeLV+ kitten, that's pretty bizarre.  I don't think
 there's any way for anyone not directly involved to know what happened.
 Most likely either the breeder or the buyer knows or suspects, but isn't
 telling.  The only other possibility I can think of is that the virus
 somehow was passed genetically, and the exact right circumstances allowed
 it to manifest in one kitten. Kind of like FIP, in that the virus infects a
 large percentage of cats, but only a few have the genetic susceptibility,
 and the right circumstances for it to manifest into FIP disease.  But that
 doesn't seem so likely.

 Marsha

 On 11/14/2014 2:05 PM, Kelley S wrote:

 Marsha..sorry..when I said I don't know what you want I was referring
 to the OP, who if I recall correctly said something along the lines of we
 don't want these cats in with other FELV+ cats if they could possibly be
 negative. So the way I read her post was:  we want people with no cats who
 are willing to take the very probable heartbreak of a FELV+ kitten and
 promise to not expose it to other FELV+ cats and who will pay us over a
 hundred dollars for doing so.  This is possible, but not very likely IMHO.
  Even in our rescue, after a certain point they would eat up over $100
 worth of food and we would be losing money even if we did get $100 plus for
 them.  More importantly, everyone is limited in space, and an animal in a
 foster home means another animal your rescue cannot help.
 The facebook group is interesting, and I encourage those on Facebook to
 join, not that I want to take traffic away from here, but most are very
 very very very stridently against mixing.I tried to get them to come
 here, but haven't had any luck that I know of.  There is a very strange
 situation going on there that I'd like to get some input on.  There is a
 kitten who has tested (snap and IFA) pos for FELV.  This kitten came from a
 breeder who tests all her cats regularly and none has ever tested
 positive.  The kitten's owner took the kitten to the vet as per contract
 within 10 days of buying the cat and got a positive test.  Rechecked with
 IFA, still positive.  ALL THE OTHER CATS were retested by the breeder and
 are still negative.  All the other kittens in the litter have tested
 negative.  HOW did this kitten contract FELV?

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OK, I submitted my request to join (like I need another group to join, 
LOL).  But can't get sucked into reading right now - it's time to hang 
out with Harley and Brock!


Marsha

On 11/14/2014 3:09 PM, Kelley S wrote:
I thought it would be interesting to get yall involved in the 
discussion there. It is CRAZY.  There is also some really hopeful 
anecdotal evidence about treating non-regenerative anemia with 
aquapuncture.  Again, not trying to drive traffic from this list, and 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-14 Thread Margo

Hi Amy
Well, I can bet right now you have at least three females :).
I could never feel justified asking for fees when adopting out many special needs kittens or cats. Fortunately, I was not subject to oversight, which makes a difference. And yes, I usually had lots of money invested in those, but knowing I was asking for "above and beyond", I figured thattaking on the kind of burden I waspresenting, we were even. I have the added self-imposedconcern that I no longer believe "conversion" to negative is truly a negative. I now feel once positive, always positive, at some level.
But maybe you will have better luck. I do hope you are successful.
Margo
-Original Message- From: Amy Sent: Nov 14, 2014 8:48 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia positive cats (rescues) for years. We were recently contacted by somebody that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found outdoors. She got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive and that the people needed to bring him back. She wanted help so we paid to have all 5 kittens tested this week. All five are positive. The foster is willing to hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not want to euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them. She has five cats of her own and can't take another 5. She would like us to try to find adoptive homes for them.We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes and do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League. We would love to find homes for them with people that know this disease. We have a black, a blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie. Pictures are available if you email me. We will determine sex and give them names soon. We will also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA to make sure they are positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other leuk positives. We wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if there is any chance they are going to fight it off but will all five positive, we suspect some or all of them will remain positive.These kittens will not be free. We will do all the vetting on them - spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies, distemper, flea and parasite treatment, etc., and will charge a $115 adoption fee. We are a rescue and will not adopt out animals that are not fully vetted and we don't do free adoptions. We are aware that they may not live past a year or two but they still deserve a loving, responsible home and proper veterinary care. If anybody is interested in helping one of these little beauties, please let us know.Amy Weygandt

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Hi all,

I'm sorry that people on this board disagree about the adoption fee and I'm 
disappointed that some people are making judgmental comments.  This board has 
been a great source of support to my family over the years and I am not feeling 
that at all at the moment.  I have adopted 12 positive cats of my own and have 
been on this board since I took my first mom and 3 kittens over 10 years ago.  
I have never owned a non-leuk positive cat until this year.  It sounds to me 
like people think I'm trying to make money off these cats or that I'm asking 
people to do something unreasonable.  Do you know what I spent in the past two 
months trying to save one leuk positive?  Over $5000.  That is one of them.  
Did I not treat her because she is leuk positive?  No I treated her like I 
would any other cat and gave her every opportunity to live, despite her status. 
 I do the same with all my positives even though I know the end result is 
usually them losing the battle with
 this horrible disease.  I'm not saying that whoever adopts these cats should 
go to those lengths to save them but I know the veterinary care that is 
involved with leuk positives.  If somebody is worried about paying a $100 
adoption fee because the cat might die, are they going to say the same thing 
about vet care?  I don't want to spend the money because it might die.  And 
what about senior cats/dogs or special needs cat/dogs? Rescues charge adoption 
fees for them as well and they can die in a year or two.  Why are leuks any 
different?  I paid an adoption fee at a shelter in CT for 2 of my leuk 
positives.  I do understand there is a controversy about free adoptions vs. 
fees.  We are not a rescue that cares about numbers.  We are a no-kill and we 
commit to an animal for life.  We do the best we can for that animal and are 
committed to finding it the best home possible.  We don't do free adoptions or 
try to move cats as quickly as we can.  It just isn't
  how we operate.  We have a very selective adoption process and we try to make 
sure all our cats are going to loving forever homes.  I am trying to do the 
same for these cats, even though I am well aware of how awful this disease is.

The woman that contacted us about these kittens has placed lots of kittens, no 
vetting, no applications, no follow up.  That is not helping the situation to 
give kittens away to people that aren't going to take care of them or be 
responsible about this disease.  Asking for an adoption fee simply helps show 
that the adopters are committed and that they understand the expense involved 
in owning an animal.  It in no means makes a dent in the money that we spend to 
help them, nor is it meant to.  We are vetting these cats and we are trying to 
teach this woman about helping in a responsible way.  She was going to adopt 
these cats to anybody and just spread the disease or release them outside.  As 
it is, we are trying to get a hold of the stray mom who is probably outside and 
leuk positive.  I'm trying to help educate her and teach her about leukemia and 
everybody makes it sound like I'm doing something wrong.  I have placed 
numerous cats on this board over
 the years as people constantly call me to help the positives.  This woman 
called me and we are trying to do the right thing.  Money is not the issue.  It 
costs us about $500 to vet a kitten completely.  There are 5 of them which 
means about $2500.  I am not trying to get that money back.  We already paid to 
combo test all of them and to treat the one for a URI without any commitment to 
these cats or any thought of an adoption fee.  She could have euthanized them 
all and we would have been out that money.  We were just trying to help her out.

Anyway, I'm probably not going to convince any of you about the adoption fee 
but I would like to say that I never said anything about not placing these cats 
in homes with other FeLV positive cats.  I said I would do an IFA first because 
both Cornell and the SPCA suggest that.  I have researched this disease for the 
past 10 years of my life and talked to vets all over the country about it.  
I've talked to sanctuaries as well and many will not take a leuk positive cat 
without a positive IFA.  If the cat is going to convert and you send it to a 
home with leukemia when it is IFA negative, you could be giving that kitten a 
death sentence when it could have a happy full life leukemia free.  Right now 
we are giving them 30 days to start converting and then we will retest.  But if 
somebody wanted  one and they had cats with leukemia, I just would want to make 
sure the kitten is truly positive.  As I mentioned, we recently had 5 positives 
at our rescue and I
 posted it about it a while back.  They are now all leuk free on both the Elisa 
and IFA.  We separated them from the positive mom and we gave them 90 days to 
convert before retesting.  They have been tested 3 times as negative and 
Cornell, the SPCA and numerous vets said they are

Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

Marsha,

I would like to thank you for your suggestions, help and support.  Even though 
you may not agree with everything I'm saying, you have been very respectful and 
helpful.  It is most appreciated.

Amy



 From: Marsha mar...@lynxe.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
 

Some adopters may make a donation to the organization they adopt a 
zero-fee cat from.  I did.  You might make a cat low or no fee, but say, 
donations gratefully accepted.  If you list on PetFinder, consider 
adding FeLV+ to the heading, besides just listing them as special 
needs.  Some people are looking specifically for a FeLV+ cat as a 
companion for one they already have, and not putting that in the heading 
forces those people to sift through every special needs listing to find 
the FeLV+ kitty.  I turned to PetFinder after having no luck locally 
finding a companion for Harley, and did a search by zip code.  I 
specified up to 100 miles, and that's how I found Brock.  Actually, 
113 miles away, but the search goes by zip code.

There are also some listings here (up for adoption or looking to adopt 
FeLV, FIV, FIP +): 
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi
You can also get to that by the felineleukemia.org website.

One other place to list is the PurringPixie yahoo group.

Marsha
(with Harley  Brock)




On 11/14/2014 11:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
 Amy,
 I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter 
 of 4 positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, 
 with no luck, so they lived with me until they passed away, most 
 before they were 1 year old. It was a very busy year, but they were a 
 lovely little group and it was nice seeing them stay together as a 
 family for the time they had.
 I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not 
 likely to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people 
 just don't want to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, 
 a kitty who will probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be 
 working with a larger rescue organization who covered their shots, 
 spay/neuters and testing expenses. I just provided the home, food, 
 love and tears :)
 I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make 
 them sound very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all 
 it's worth! :)



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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

Katherine,

I as well tried adopting out a mom and 3 kittens.  No response.  I kept them 
all and that was my start to a life of leuk positives.  I wouldn't change it 
for anything!  I have a son now, though, and the constant heartbreak on him is 
too much.  I wish I could save these 5 but I have a senior with leukemia and my 
vet thinks it would be unfair to him.

Amy


 From: Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Cc: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
 


Amy,

I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter of 4 
positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, with no luck, 
so they lived with me until they passed away, most before they were 1 year old. 
It was a very busy year, but they were a lovely little group and it was nice 
seeing them stay together as a family for the time they had. 

I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not likely 
to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people just don't want 
to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, a kitty who will 
probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be working with a larger rescue 
organization who covered their shots, spay/neuters and testing expenses. I just 
provided the home, food, love and tears :) 

I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make them sound 
very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all it's worth! :)

Good luck,
Katherine





On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Kelley S moonv...@gmail.com wrote:

I must not be getting all the posts.  FELV+ kittens are very hard to place,and 
the adoption fee you are charging doesn't make it easier.  I too do rescue.   
We adopted out a double positive cat to a person on this list. We altered her, 
vaccinated her, tested and retested her.  We charged $25 and today I doubt we'd 
charge that. She went to an excellent home, we got pictures and updates.  She 
recently was euthanized due to severe cardiomyopathy and lived 7.5 years.  I 
wish you the best of luck testing your 5.  Maybe someone here has room for a 
new kitty:)



On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

I GOT ANNIE AS AN ADULT OF 4 YRS, BUT THE VET THINKS SHE WAS ALWAYS POSITIVE.  
SHE HAD NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE LADY'S HOUSE AND WAS SPOILED ROTTEN.  I HAVE 
HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH MY OTHER CATS WHO WERE ANYWHERE FROM 1 YEAR TO 10 YEARS.  
MOST DIE OF OLD AGE AT 18 OR SO.  YOU DO HAVE TO BE VERY OBSERVANT AND CATCH 
ANY PROBLEM BEFORE IT CAN GET STARTED.
I AGREE, YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, BUT IF THEY REALLY LOVE CATS, THEY WILL 
TAKE THE CHANCE AND LOVE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE GONE.  WHAT YOU GET FROM THEM IN 
THAT SHORT TIME IS WORTH IT.

 Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive but I 
 didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten or an 
 adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also got her 
 around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had with 
 leukemia as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can defy 
 the odds and I always tell people that but I will warn people that there 
 may be heartbreak ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me from 
 helping these little ones though.  They are all so special.

 We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and the 
 specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best for 
 these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!


 
  From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
 To: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens



 MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8 YEARS 
 OLD .




  Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia 
  positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by 
  somebody that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found 
  outdoors.  She got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested 
  positive and that the people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help 
  so we paid to have all 5 kittens tested this week.  All five are 
  positive.  The foster is willing to hold them for 30 days so we can 
  retest them but she does not want to euthanize (nor would we suggest 
  that) and she can't keep them.  She has five cats of her own and can't 
  take another 5.  She would like us to try to find adoptive homes for them.
 
  We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes 
  and do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We would 
  love to find homes for them

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