Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids
Also, check out this site. http://bricomedicalsupplies.com/ I had a wonderful cat with CRF who passed away a few years ago at 21. From quick liver failure. I have a set of great CRF links. Let me know if you want to see them! Holly and Oliver (FELV positive) -Original Message- From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 8:41 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids Try this link for info on sub q fluid supplies http://www.zzcat.com/CRF/supplies/index.html#Top Sharyl From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net To: dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids I don't remember offhand, it was over a year ago, but I think I may have gotten the link from the files at the FCRF yahoo group they have to give fluids all the time so some good advice and links on there. you can google it and check prices, you may need a script for the fluids as they want to make sure you are getting the right type of fluid. I always use lactated ringers. Gary -- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 12:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: gary gcru...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids Gary, you say you get fluids, etc from a medical supply house. May I ask their name or will just any supply house do? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats
I am far from being an expert here. My cat Oliver (6) was diagnosed with the leukemia virus back in December after my cat Daisy (4) suddenly got ill and passed away. Turns out that she had leukemia even though she was vaccinated against it and showed no prior signs of having it. Oliver mixes with 4 of my other cats and nobody has tested positive. Holly -Original Message- From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 3:18 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats I personally have known about a dozen people who mix their positves to negatives - and negatives are not vaccinated either - and some of the cats have lived together, meaning share everything - grooming..etc.. amazingly, none of their negatives have become positives - though I have to say, all of they are adults cats - I am sure that kittens are more susceptible - and some of them are lving together for several years. Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 15:12:49 -0700 From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats Well.. I don't think there is a definitive answer to your question(not just yours most of us came accross it at some point)..basically if negative cats don't come into contact with positives they won't get infected. Also infection results from long time exposure, ie if a negative licks a postive dish once in a blue moon he won't get infected, however if he does clean the + plate every day, he could. If a positive grooms a negative once the negative won't get it but if he does it everyday or several times a day he could, same as for sharing beds, litterboxes, etc. I recently read on internet that infection thru aerosol/ airborne virus is rare in cats but common in dogs.., I don't know abt it. While the virus live for a few hrs out of the host if a - cat happens to absorb a + sneeze right after the + sneezed he could be infected. I've two FeLV+ one lives in a room by himself though during the day I put him in a LG crate in the garage for a change, he loves it. The other one is in a crate in another room(reason for crate is that it is the basement and other cats are around, however he doesn't sneeze so I'm not concerned somebody that just happens to pass by could get a droplet or two., The first one does have a chronic sinus infection so he sneezes quite a bit. I keep a litter in another room, young and senior are most vulnerable to infection. All the cats except the new litter are vaccinated. M http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ From: Jo gypsyj...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:45 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats Is mixing like this recommended? In my brood I have a 15-year old tiny girl who tested positive for FeLV, a 12-year old blind boy and 10-year old girl who have not been tested, and a 2-year old girl and 6-month old girl who both tested negative and are vaccinated. I recently lost my beautiful 2-year old blond boy to FeLV in January and have since been trying to learn as much as possible about it. The older cats do not really interact with the younger ones. I know it's too late now if I can't mix them and I'm taking my chances but I'd really like to know if it can be done. Thank you in advance for all your help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Picked up Orlandos ashes today
Sending good thoughts to you. He sounds a lot like my Oliver, a six year old Siamese who tested positive for the virus. Holly -Original Message- From: Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 21, 2012 4:47 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Picked up Orlandos ashes today It has been one week since I took Orlando to the vets for the last time. His tumor had gotten large enough to be causing him pain and he had stoppedeating. He was such a wonderful cat, my loving flame point Siameseboy. The first time I met him in the rescues FeLV room he reached up andgave me a hug. From then on he was my boy and I can't believe he is goneand I will never see him again in this world. He was about 10 when Iadopted him and that was four years ago. He would come up and bite me inthe butt for attention when I was working on the computer. If I got up atnight to go to the bathroom he would accompany me. Always. I guessthat was how I knew it was time. On the last night he didn't dothat. He will be SO missed. I hate hate hate this disease. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mama died in my arms last night
Sorry to hear this. My thoughts are with you. Holly -Original Message- From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, May 19, 2012 6:59 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mama died in my arms last night Amen to that, Diane! I'm so sorry for your loss Czadna! Lynda - Original Message - From: Diane Rosenfeldt To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mama died in my arms last night Im sorry to hear this, Czadna, but Im sure Mama was exactly where she wanted to be at the end. May your beautiful Mama have a joyous reunion with BreAnne, TorieRose and Isaac at the Bridge. Hugs to you. Diane R. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 4:22 PM To: feline leukemia list Subject: [Felvtalk] Mama died in my arms last night Her eyes were clear and wonderfully green and her fur luxurious; her teeth were good. Mama was highly anemic. She crashed in about a 10-day period. Mama wasn't Isaac's mama. He left in Feburary 2011. Some of you will remember his story. Mama was his acting mama. Now he and Mama and BreAnne and TorieRose are together. Thank you for being with us. purrsrubs cz ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids
When my renal cat, Spader was alive, I used the Monoject 20's and my vets matched the prices from Brico Online. Holly -Original Message- From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, May 7, 2012 7:05 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids What about the 23 gauge? That's even smaller, correct? Does it work okay or does it take forever to get the fluids in because the needle is so small? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 21:45:03 -0400 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids Maureen, I never use those “ horse” needles for cats; I prefer the 20x1”, and often use 18x1” as well – it may take a little bit longer, but goes in a lot easier, especially for kittens. Some cats have tough skin, and others have super soft skin and the needle just glides right in. Getting the needles from the vet gets a bit expensive and they’re not as sharp as the ones that I get here (no prescription needed) – a box of 100 is $6.45 http://www.thrivingpets.com/index.php/terumo-needles-box-of-100.html The company is www.thrivingpets.com Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 8:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids For you guys that give sub-q fluids - What size needle do you use? A friend showed me how to do it yesterday but she has these huge 18 gauge needles. I'm wondering if I can use a smaller size. It's for my 6 month old kitten so I hate stabbing her with that huge thing. Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] sick FLV+ kitty, worried owner
Hi, I am new to the list and just learning about FELK. I lost my four year old cat, Daisy to leukemia in December and then found out that one of my five cats tested positive for the virus shortly after. When my diabetic/renal cat was inappetent, I busted out pieces of a plain McDonald's hamburger, lunchmeat, cheese, tuna, any smelly cat food. fish flakes, sprinkled Fortiflora on the food, plain meat baby food and also tried boiled chicken. I am so sorry that you are dealing with all of this. Best of luck. Holly -Original Message- From: Anna Waltman anna.walt...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, Apr 21, 2012 10:26 am Subject: [Felvtalk] sick FLV+ kitty, worried owner Dear all, I've been a member of this list since 2009, when Sylvia, the older of my two (strictly indoor-only) cats, was first diagnosed with FLV (she'd tested negative twice as a kitten, then at just over a year old came up positive on both the snap and IFA tests). We have a great vet, and she's been a happy, healthy, fat, and sassy calico cat for most of her life. I haven't been very active on this list in the last year or so because Sylvia has been so healthy, apart from a case of gingivitis that our vet and I were monitoring carefully. She's about four years old now, and was originally a stray kitten in an urban area. I adopted her from an ASPCA in New Jersey. The vet thinks she got the virus from her mama and it was dormant in her system until the stress of moving from NJ to MA caused it to turn active. Unfortunately, her run of good health seems to be over. Toward the end of March, she started having diarrhea and seemed lethargic, so I took her to the vet, who said she didn't have a fever, but gave her a shot of systemic antibiotics and some subcutaneous fluids anyway. Her energy levels rose and the diarrhea resolved itself. However, Sylvia's energy levels took a nosedive again this past week, and she's been totally lethargic. She started hiding in my roommate's closet and spent an entire night in there on Wednesday. She's been refusing to play with my other cat, Beatrice, and hissed last time Beatrice tried to convince her to play chase (not normal at all-- these two have always been good buddies and playmates). Yesterday, we went back to the vet. This time, she did have a high fever (105) and the vet did blood work, which showed anemia and a high white blood cell count. The vet said all signs point to infection and suggested antibiotics and fluids, but she also wanted to do x-rays to check for tumors...then she also said that even if a tumor showed itself, there would be no treatment options and we'd have to discuss euthanasia. I opted against the x-rays as I'm on a limited budget and couldn't really see the point if the tests wouldn't lead to treatment. We decided to do another round of the injected systemic antibiotics and sub-Q fluids, and the vet also gave me an oral antibiotic to dose Sylvia with once a day. I'm going to purchase a thermometer so I can monitor her temperature daily, as well. I'm under strict instructions to bring her back in if her temp rises or stays where it is. We go back on Wednesday for another round of blood work, to see if the anemia and white blood cell count are improving or getting worse. I'm a mess. I'm so worried; I broke down crying in the vet's office yesterday before the vet even came in to see Sylvia. And poor Sylvia has been hiding under my bed since we got home yesterday. She's not interested in cuddles or attention (which is not even a little normal for her-- most of the time, she'd spend her whole evening curled up on my lap if given the chance). She'll come out to eat (she's still interested in treats) and get a drink of water, and then she goes right back under the bed to sleep. I realize that this is instinct...when animals are very sick they have to hide to protect themselves from predators...but she's never been so adamant about being out of sight before this week. Have any of you dealt with this in a FLV+ cat before? Any advice for how to cope? Is there some other remedy I should be giving her (Lysine, pet-tinic, etc) in addition to the antibiotics while she's sick to bolster her immune system? She eats high-quality food to begin with (Wellness CORE and occasionally Wellness wet food). Also...how do I know when her quality of life has deteriorated to the point that euthanasia is something to consider? She's not herself now, that's for sure, but she doesn't seem to be in pain, either. When she's been in pain in the past because of her mouth/gums, she's been quite vocal about it. I just don't want her to suffer needlessly. This has been breaking my heart. Sylvia is my first cat as an adult (I'm 25 and in grad school); she's outlived two serious relationships, the whole of my Master's degree work, and a major move. I'm more attached to her than I've ever been to an animal.
Re: [Felvtalk] Tiddle E. Winks Please Add to the CLS :(
so sorry. Holly -Original Message- From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Apr 18, 2012 7:49 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Tiddle E. Winks Please Add to the CLS :( Friday we lost Sids kid Winks to this awful disease he will be missed by many volunteers.He was a sweet fluffy orange boy. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list again
Got it. holly Sent from out and about On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:43 PM, James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net wrote: Hey all, Let me know if you get this message. I think there are still some problems with the list. Haven't received any mail since the host said they fixed the problem. Sorry for the inconvenience. Best. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Brando and Luna Please add to the CLS :( :(
So sorry to hear this news. Fly free, Brando and Luna. -Original Message- From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:17 am Subject: [Felvtalk] Brando and Luna Please add to the CLS :( :( Monday we lost two wonderful fur friends Brando,well he was one of my boyfriends at Sids..We had MANY make out sessions which was me holding him while he slobbered all overr my hair face neck :) He was a lover thats for sure,he will ALWAYS have a special place in my heart...I had a special connection with him and knew when he was in need of his medication for his awful stomatitis that MANY of our Sids kids get. I will forever miss this awesome guy! Luna,but as I lovingly called her Tuna Pishes :) Well this wonderful girl was lucky enough to have gotten herself a home around Christmas time almost 2 years ago with a wonderful family. I had considered adopting her but I believe she was in her meant to be home,she too will ALWAYS have a special place in my heart. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Oliver/eye update
Oliver and I went to the vet's and everything checked out normal with his eyes. Whew. We had a good chat about everything to look out for in the future. I mentioned that everyone here was very helpful. Holly___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] eye issues
I just got off the phone with the front office. Our favorite vet is not in until Wednesday so I think that I will wait to bring Oliver in until then. Our second favorite senior vet is on vacation this week. The vet working today is ok, but I would rather wait and see the same vet who has been treating Oliver since the FeLV diagnosis. Since I understand that this may just be one of those things that happens with FeLV and he doesn't seem to be in any pain, I'll wait. I will email him some links and comments so he can see them in the meantime. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, Apr 2, 2012 6:31 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] eye issues I've heard of it before, too. Interested to see what the vet says today! Keep us posted. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] eye issues One of our cats at about age 7 or 8, started having spots on his eye, and they were moving around. Sometimes they look like a lot less, other times more. Eye was checked, it was nothing to worry about and doesn’t at all interfere with his vision. He will be 17 yrs old in July. Spook’s eyes are dark amber and spots are brown. Since your cat has blue eyes, and spots are blue, it could be the same thing. I would still have it checked, because no two things are ever the same. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Holly Shelton Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 10:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] eye issues Hi there. Oliver had an eye infection that was treated successfully about a month ago. Last Thursday, he and another one of my cats had dentals. All seemed to go well, Today, I noticed that one of his eyes looked off He has these huge blue Siamese eyes so you notice when something is weird. I can't quite describe it, but it seems like his pupils look like there are spots of blue from the blue part of his eyes in there on the edge, if that makes sense. He is eating ok and of course isn't going to let me get as good of a look at it his eyes as I want to. I plan on calling the vet first thing tomorrow morning. I wonder if he has some kind of delayed reaction to the anesthesia? I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts. Thanks, Holly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] eye issues
Hi there. Oliver had an eye infection that was treated successfully about a month ago. Last Thursday, he and another one of my cats had dentals. All seemed to go well, Today, I noticed that one of his eyes looked off He has these huge blue Siamese eyes so you notice when something is weird. I can't quite describe it, but it seems like his pupils look like there are spots of blue from the blue part of his eyes in there on the edge, if that makes sense. He is eating ok and of course isn't going to let me get as good of a look at it his eyes as I want to. I plan on calling the vet first thing tomorrow morning. I wonder if he has some kind of delayed reaction to the anesthesia? I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts. Thanks, Holly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Gulliver Please add to the CLS :(
so sorry to hear this Holly -Original Message- From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, Mar 23, 2012 8:38 am Subject: [Felvtalk] Gulliver Please add to the CLS :( Heaven received another former Sids kid today Gully was lucky enough to of had a loving home for over a year with a great catmom... He was a sweet beautiful fluffy boylove you Gully Gully.. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Gulliver Please add to the CLS :(
And I wanted to add, you have a huge heart. Bless you. Holly -Original Message- From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, Mar 23, 2012 8:38 am Subject: [Felvtalk] Gulliver Please add to the CLS :( Heaven received another former Sids kid today Gully was lucky enough to of had a loving home for over a year with a great catmom... He was a sweet beautiful fluffy boylove you Gully Gully.. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] (no subject)
My six year old Siamese cat, Oliver tested positive for the leukemia virus back in December. He's been doing great, other than having an eye infection a few weeks back, which cleared up pretty well. I have noticed that there is a ring of gray hair around the eye that had the infection. Has anyone else had that happen after an eye infection? So weird. My vet has never seen that happen. Oliver did have a blood panel done two weeks ago as he is due for a dental next week. All of the values, especially the ones that related to leukemia virus were great. Thanks, Holly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
Oh, perhaps, thanks for that. And I can't believe that I forgot to put a subject. -Original Message- From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com Sent: Thu, Mar 22, 2012 9:46 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) JUST A GUESS, did the infection affect the hair follicles? Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: My six year old Siamese cat, Oliver tested positive for the leukemia virus back in December. He's been doing great, other than having an eye infection a few weeks back, which cleared up pretty well. I have noticed that there is a ring of gray hair around the eye that had the infection. Has anyone else had that happen after an eye infection? So weird. My vet has never seen that happen. Oliver did have a blood panel done two weeks ago as he is due for a dental next week. All of the values, especially the ones that related to leukemia virus were great. Thanks, Holly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Coco Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I am so sorry. Sounds like she was a real special lady.Holly -Original Message- From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, Mar 12, 2012 7:13 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Coco Please add to the CLS :( We just learned tonight that we lost our sweet little black girl Coco. She was a dainty lady with a big heartwe will miss you Coco And my heart goes out to all of you who have lost a furry friend recently also. Thank you all for loving these special babies and thank you for being here for me... Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Oliver has an eye infection
Hi everyone. I am an infrequent poster, except maybe for giving some CRF info, but I read every post. My cat Oliver, a 6 year old Siamese, was diagnosed with the leukemia virus back in December. My Siamese mix, Daisy (4), got really sick suddenly and after two blood transfusions and a lot of meds, she was helped ahead. What an awful experience. Cut to: all of my other cats, including some fosters, were tested and vaccinated. Oliver was the only one out of five cats who came back with positive results after both tests. He has been doing great since then. He is on Pet-Tinic and Omega 3 treats. I tried the Omega 3 oil and he didn't go for it. Today, I noticed that he has a weepy eye and we went straight to the vet's office, it turns out he has an eye infection and is on triple antibiotic ointment. We go back for a check up on Saturday. I am a bit nervous as I know that he has a compromised immune system and I want to make sure that he stays comfortable for a long time. And I am working some long hours so I am not around as much as I would like to be to monitor him. Any words of wisdom are very welcomed. Holly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lucky Louie and Britta Please add to the CLS :(
I am so sorry to hear this. Holly -Original Message- From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 5:37 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Lucky Louie and Britta Please add to the CLS :( Well it was another heartbreaking day for us today at Sids...Lucky Louie was a sweet little orange guy that had a rough start before coming to us.His story was a hawk has dropped him in his rescuers yard. Somehow he ended up with us and we had a short time to have had the chance to love this great little guy. Britta today when I was having my valentine visit with the Sids kids had a seizure right in front of me,it was the strangest thing I ever saw...but she came out of it,crawled into my lap and proceeded to purr and kneed my lapwas such a sweet moment for us. Well I just received an e-mail from Dr. Jen that little Britta collapsed and could not be helped...I will cherish that sweet moment I got to share with her today after she had scared me so. Heart is heavy tonight, Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Oliver has an eye infection
Hi everyone. I am an infrequent poster, except maybe for giving some CRF info, but I read every post. My cat Oliver, a 6 year old Siamese, was diagnosed with the leukemia virus back in December. My Siamese mix, Daisy (4), got really sick suddenly and after two blood transfusions and a lot of meds, she was helped ahead. What an awful experience. Cut to: all of my other cats, including some fosters, were tested and vaccinated. Oliver was the only one out of five cats who came back with positive results after both tests. He has been doing great since then. He is on Pet-Tinic and Omega 3 treats. I tried the Omega 3 oil and he didn't go for it. Today, I noticed that he has a weepy eye and we went straight to the vet's office, it turns out he has an eye infection and is on triple antibiotic ointment. We go back for a check up on Saturday. I am a bit nervous as I know that he has a compromised immune system and I want to make sure that he stays comfortable for a long time. And I am working some long hours so I am not around as much as I would like to be to monitor him. Any words of wisdom are very welcomed. Holly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Tanya's CRF Site
Oh and Spader was on aluminum hydroxide as a phos binder. It really helped. I have a word doc with all sorts of CRF links that I can email anyone who wants it. I put it together to help people. Also as an aside, I train people on giving fluids and the tips to give a cat a longer life. I also talk to local vets about what I did to change Spader's CRF and FD turned around. I am working 14 hour days and I may not be checking tis email more than a couple of times a day. Holly -Original Message- From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:12 am Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Tanya's CRF Site This was 23 KB, am erasing bottom and resending. This is very annoying – why do they have a such a tiny limit in this group? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of GRAS YES, not good at all, especially for CRF patients, however, sometimes they won’t eat anything else, and something is better than nothing. One of mine will not eat K-D canned food – so I mix it half/half with another food…better that, than losing weight and dying. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research more on this. Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Otto Please add to the CLS :(
Sorry to hear this. -Original Message- From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2012 12:23 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Otto Please add to the CLS :( We lost Otto this past Friday. He was a sweet black boy that always made me make out with him before I could give him his medicine...he was a lover thats for sure...he will be missed by many of us volunteers...I love you Otto Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests:
Hi, I am new to all of this. My cat Oliver had the PCR after testing positive with the ELISA. Sadly, he tested positive after getting the PCR test. He is a 6 year old Siamese. My vet had a chat with some hoity toity vet either at Davis or Cornell who said that it was more accurate. Everyone else in the house tested negative and just had their booster shots. Follow up blood work for all is in Mid March. Thanks for all of the info here! Holly -Original Message- From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:02 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests: That's what I found when I googled it, Lorrie :) This was in response to Kathryns thread. She said she meant a PCR test. I've never heard of this either. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests: On 02-06, Lynda Wilson wrote: I've never heard of a PSA. Is this new? L I thought PSA was a prostate check for men. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holly -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
Dry food isn't great for a renal cat. KD isn't the best either. I fed my Spader wet food with lower phosphorus levels. All of the Friskies Special Diet foods and even the Fancy Feast Chicken and Tuna. I stayed around 230-240 in the phos level on these great charts: http://binkyspage.tripod.com/CanFoodNew.html Holly -Original Message- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:11 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research more on this. Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Macke Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - From: Val Green To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiss The Cat Prescriptions
Sending you both good thoughts. I am new at this. Holly -Original Message- From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, Feb 3, 2012 10:32 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiss The Cat Prescriptions I just read all of your threads. I wish you and Kiss's the best of luck too! I sure hope he feels better soon! Thanks for the update! Lynda - Original Message - From: Amanda Vollaro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiss The Cat Prescriptions So the vet prescribed Azithromycin, Clavamox, and Inteferon to start, with a Sub-Q Ringers Lactate with B-Vitamins added.Yesterday he ate despite having all those drugs, but he had a bad night last night (fainted and scared himself) and today he's being cranky. I was able to get his meds down him today, and feeding him in small meals whenever he will take them. I'm guessing getting through the first three days will be the toughest. Per the vet we'll see if he's responding well by then. So far it's been touch-and-go. Wish us luck! Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net - Original Message - ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: new to the group
Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome. I look forward to learning from all of you. Holly -Original Message- From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, Dec 30, 2011 2:24 am Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: new to the group I would highly recommend adding CoQ10 to their food, keeps their gums, heart, etc healthy. Gums and teeth are impacted greatly by immuno depressive viruses. GNC has the vegetarian formula that is powder in capsules, open capsule and sprinkle/mix into food (tasteless!). Use between 30-50 mg daily. I have been using CoQ10 for years, and have dealt mostly with FIV+ cats, and only a few FeLV+ cats…it kept them in great shape for a long time.l Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 9:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new to the group So sorry about Daisy. I had a brother sister FeLV positive. I lost the sister about a year ago to lymphoma, but the brother is doing well, so every cat is different in how they react to this virus. I don't do anything special except feed them well. They get Blue Buffalo dry food. You can give interferon as a preventative.L-Lysine can be sprinkled on their food. My feeling is if it doesn't stress them out to give them a supplement then do it. But if you have to chase them down to give them something, you are stressing them out doing more harm than good. I don't go through any heroic measures. The one time I did that it broke my heart because I put the cat through so much needless pain at the end. That being said, some people here do, it works out. It is a personal choice. BTW this is Feline Leukemia (FeLV) not Leukemia. They are totally different. I had a friend with a cat who had Leukemia. Beth From: Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new to the group Hi. Not exactly sure with Daisy as it all happened so quickly. The vet ran what I assume was the ELISA, as she was dying. He did not do the IFA. I am interested in seeing how I can make Oliver's life as full of a life as it can be. I was told that he has leukemia. I can confirm that with the vet when we go over treatment tomorrow. -Original Message- From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2011 1:23 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new to the group There is a difference between leukemia and Feline Leukemia Virus; which did Daisy have? I’ve had cats with either one. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] new to the group
Hi there. I just wanted to take a moment and introduce myself. I am a huge cat lover. I volunteer at an animal sanctuary and take care of the cats there as well. I have extensive knowledge of diabetes and CRF, but leukemia is new to me. About a month ago, I noticed that my 4 year old Siamese mix, Daisy, was feeling a bit off so we ran some blood work and she came back severely anemic. I rushed her into the ER, where she stayed for three days and had two blood transfusions and put on various types of meds. Unfortunately, her body just gave out and my cat sitter, who works with my vet, called me when I was out of town with my dad in the hospital, and said that they thought it was Daisy's time. We believe that she had leukemia. She was vaccinated, but perhaps it was dormant until recently. (Dad's ok). I have three other cats of my own and had them tested and subsequently vaccinated. My 6 year old Siamese, Oliver, tested positive after having the ELISA and IFA tests. I want to see what I can do to help give him a good quality of life. I am checking out this website and look forward to gaining the knowledge I need to. My vet and I were talking about interferon, omega fatty 3's, pet-tinic, etc. He is used to me doing my own research as I reversed the CRF and diabetes with an older cat who passed of liver failure, mainly by seeing what real people did to help their cats. I also have three foster cats, who live in their own room, and they tested negative and were also vaccinated. I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts, and of course, pouring over the website. Thanks, Holl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] new to the group
Hi. Not exactly sure with Daisy as it all happened so quickly. The vet ran what I assume was the ELISA, as she was dying. He did not do the IFA. I am interested in seeing how I can make Oliver's life as full of a life as it can be. I was told that he has leukemia. I can confirm that with the vet when we go over treatment tomorrow. -Original Message- From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2011 1:23 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new to the group There is a difference between leukemia and Feline Leukemia Virus; which did Daisy have? I’ve had cats with either one. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Holly Shelton Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] new to the group Hi there. I just wanted to take a moment and introduce myself. I am a huge cat lover. I volunteer at an animal sanctuary and take care of the cats there as well. I have extensive knowledge of diabetes and CRF, but leukemia is new to me. About a month ago, I noticed that my 4 year old Siamese mix, Daisy, was feeling a bit off so we ran some blood work and she came back severely anemic. I rushed her into the ER, where she stayed for three days and had two blood transfusions and put on various types of meds. Unfortunately, her body just gave out and my cat sitter, who works with my vet, called me when I was out of town with my dad in the hospital, and said that they thought it was Daisy's time. We believe that she had leukemia. She was vaccinated, but perhaps it was dormant until recently. (Dad's ok). I have three other cats of my own and had them tested and subsequently vaccinated. My 6 year old Siamese, Oliver, tested positive after having the ELISA and IFA tests. I want to see what I can do to help give him a good quality of life. I am checking out this website and look forward to gaining the knowledge I need to. My vet and I were talking about interferon, omega fatty 3's, pet-tinic, etc. He is used to me doing my own research as I reversed the CRF and diabetes with an older cat who passed of liver failure, mainly by seeing what real people did to help their cats. I also have three foster cats, who live in their own room, and they tested negative and were also vaccinated. I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts, and of course, pouring over the website. Thanks, Holly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
