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The only thing you left out is felv can be beaten. The cat throws off the virus on its own or it gets help from a human. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy looks great. She has had so far only the snap test as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her give her good loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair objective so that they can make an informed compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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And remember, even with FeLV neg cats we never know how long we will have them either. There are many people who lose their healthy cats to all kinds of things. I have seen many people's FeLV kitty outlive their neg kitty! :) Tanya --- On Sun, 6/5/11, Mark thecatresc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Mark thecatresc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 6:12 AM The only thing you left out is felv can be beaten. The cat throws off the virus on its own or it gets help from a human. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy looks great. She has had so far only the snap test as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her give her good loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair objective so that they can make an informed compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Pam, You don't have to wait 3 weeks to do an IFA test. I believe you can do it now. Here is a link that you can have them read, it is helpful... http://www.acfacat.com/felv.htm Since she is still a kitten her chances of clearing the virus is lower than if she was an adult. My kitten tested negative for it on the ELISA test when he was 5 mos, then at 9 mos tested a light positive, but was severely ill (anemic, heart murmur, very low oxygen level, and weakness) and we had to put him to sleep. He also had coccidia. In my opinion, what you plan on telling her is correct. However, you may want to mention that it may effect them financially. Even though she appears healthy now, she could need expensive meds later. Remember that cats hide their symptoms really well, but she could be able to clear the virus. I hope this is exactly what happens, then no worries either way. How old their kids are, in my opinion, would depend on how they would learn from this experience. You're heart is in the right place and she is very lucky to have you be so compassionate and eager to find her the home she deserves. Good luck! Keep us posted. I hope this helped. Lynda - Original Message - From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:35 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Questiions Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy looks great. She has had so far only the snap test as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her give her good loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair objective so that they can make an informed compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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If she is 5 months old and has been diagnosed with FeLV, she must not have been born with it, especially since she has no symptoms. I am no expert, and have had little experience - one kitten that was born with it to a positive mother - Nemo had symptoms, was treated with interferon and other things, got convulsions and died at age 3 months. I had an adult cat that tested positive, and was retested 3 months later, was negative. Now, I have two approx. 4 yr old males, very healthy, asymptomatic, most likely NOT born with it, but infected later - or, just carriers, although I'm not sure what exactly that means. Based on what I have experienced, Sabrina would fall into the second or third category; with good food, supplements, no stress and a lot of TLC, she may turn out to be negative, and if not, still have a long and healthy life! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 6:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions The only thing you left out is felv can be beaten. The cat throws off the virus on its own or it gets help from a human. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy looks great. She has had so far only the snap test as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her give her good loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair objective so that they can make an informed compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I disagree that if she is 5 mos old and has been diagnosed withFeLV, she must not have been born with it. I don't see how that could ever be proven. All kittens/cats have immune systems that can breakdown at different times. Here is my experience: My 3 mos old kitten that I fostered from the Humane Society, until it was 5 1/2 mos, tested negative after being neutered at 5 1/2 mos. It was then I adopted it. Within 4 mos he was deathly ill with the virus. I was told he was probably born with it and it did not show up yet, or the test was a false negative. He's always been in my house and never anywhere else except for the vet that takes care of the HS kitties. He could have been born with it because his immune systems was already weak because the entire litter had coccidia. Otherwise, the only thing I can guess is that he contracted it at the HS vet's office either when he got neutered or when he got his vaccinations. My adult cat that is strictly an indoor cat, has had 3 ELISA tests and has tested negative on all of them. But I am going to test him again in 3 more months (that would make the 6 mos period) just to be absolutely sure. - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions If she is 5 months old and has been diagnosed with FeLV, she must not have been born with it, especially since she has no symptoms. I am no expert, and have had little experience - one kitten that was born with it to a positive mother - Nemo had symptoms, was treated with interferon and other things, got convulsions and died at age 3 months. I had an adult cat that tested positive, and was retested 3 months later, was negative. Now, I have two approx. 4 yr old males, very healthy, asymptomatic, most likely NOT born with it, but infected later - or, just carriers, although I'm not sure what exactly that means. Based on what I have experienced, Sabrina would fall into the second or third category; with good food, supplements, no stress and a lot of TLC, she may turn out to be negative, and if not, still have a long and healthy life! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 6:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions The only thing you left out is felv can be beaten. The cat throws off the virus on its own or it gets help from a human. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy looks great. She has had so far only the snap test as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her give her good loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair objective so that they can make an informed compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list
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I know it can't be proven; but when they are born with it, they are usually sickish and die soon - most don't make it past a few months (that I have know of at my friend's rescue group). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions I disagree that if she is 5 mos old and has been diagnosed withFeLV, she must not have been born with it. I don't see how that could ever be proven. All kittens/cats have immune systems that can breakdown at different times. Here is my experience: My 3 mos old kitten that I fostered from the Humane Society, until it was 5 1/2 mos, tested negative after being neutered at 5 1/2 mos. It was then I adopted it. Within 4 mos he was deathly ill with the virus. I was told he was probably born with it and it did not show up yet, or the test was a false negative. He's always been in my house and never anywhere else except for the vet that takes care of the HS kitties. He could have been born with it because his immune systems was already weak because the entire litter had coccidia. Otherwise, the only thing I can guess is that he contracted it at the HS vet's office either when he got neutered or when he got his vaccinations. My adult cat that is strictly an indoor cat, has had 3 ELISA tests and has tested negative on all of them. But I am going to test him again in 3 more months (that would make the 6 mos period) just to be absolutely sure. - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions If she is 5 months old and has been diagnosed with FeLV, she must not have been born with it, especially since she has no symptoms. I am no expert, and have had little experience - one kitten that was born with it to a positive mother - Nemo had symptoms, was treated with interferon and other things, got convulsions and died at age 3 months. I had an adult cat that tested positive, and was retested 3 months later, was negative. Now, I have two approx. 4 yr old males, very healthy, asymptomatic, most likely NOT born with it, but infected later - or, just carriers, although I'm not sure what exactly that means. Based on what I have experienced, Sabrina would fall into the second or third category; with good food, supplements, no stress and a lot of TLC, she may turn out to be negative, and if not, still have a long and healthy life! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 6:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions The only thing you left out is felv can be beaten. The cat throws off the virus on its own or it gets help from a human. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net wrote: Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy looks great. She has had so far only the snap test as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her give her good loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know
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Pam My $0.02 is that you have all the right reasoning. I would just emphasis that we never know what may happen in the future, to ourselves or our pets. And that while tough things may happen, wonderful things will happen too. And the experience of opening one's home and heart to an ill being (human or animal) is an act of great generosity and kindness, which usually has its rewards. But, in the end, these folks must make the decision best for their family. The only thing worse than no home is the wrong home. I wish you luck. Blessings to you for trying to help little Sabriina. ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 9:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Questiions Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy looks great. She has had so far only the snap test as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her give her good loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair objective so that they can make an informed compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Very well said, Bonnie!! - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions Pam My $0.02 is that you have all the right reasoning. I would just emphasis that we never know what may happen in the future, to ourselves or our pets. And that while tough things may happen, wonderful things will happen too. And the experience of opening one's home and heart to an ill being (human or animal) is an act of great generosity and kindness, which usually has its rewards. But, in the end, these folks must make the decision best for their family. The only thing worse than no home is the wrong home. I wish you luck. Blessings to you for trying to help little Sabriina. ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 9:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Questiions Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy looks great. She has had so far only the snap test as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her give her good loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair objective so that they can make an informed compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My vet always thought that they never were actually born with it but were infected moments after birth... And the mother who was very sick would pass soon after giving birth... The kittens would be in poor health because of poor nutrition from the sick mother... One of my first rescues was a litter of 4 kittens that were found alone at about one day old and were hand raised till at 8 weeks they were tested and found to be pos Again at 12 weeks and again at 16 weeks when they came to live with me They were all very healthy kittens... The first one passed at about 6 months... The second at 9 months and the last 2 at 11 and 12 months I have always thought that was average for kittens exposed at a very young age I have had several older pos. cats live for about 6 years Tad On 6/5/2011 12:48 PM, Natalie wrote: I know it can't be proven; but when they are born with it, they are usually sickish and die soon - most don't make it past a few months (that I have know of at my friend's rescue group). ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Heartbreaking :( - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions My vet always thought that they never were actually born with it but were infected moments after birth... And the mother who was very sick would pass soon after giving birth... The kittens would be in poor health because of poor nutrition from the sick mother... One of my first rescues was a litter of 4 kittens that were found alone at about one day old and were hand raised till at 8 weeks they were tested and found to be pos Again at 12 weeks and again at 16 weeks when they came to live with me They were all very healthy kittens... The first one passed at about 6 months... The second at 9 months and the last 2 at 11 and 12 months I have always thought that was average for kittens exposed at a very young age I have had several older pos. cats live for about 6 years Tad On 6/5/2011 12:48 PM, Natalie wrote: I know it can't be proven; but when they are born with it, they are usually sickish and die soon - most don't make it past a few months (that I have know of at my friend's rescue group). ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Here's a slightly different view, on a different situation: http://www.vetinfo.com/cfeleuk.html It's obvious that after so many years, there are still too many questions about FeLV! Between all of us, we could probably fill a book with different scenarios! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 8:37 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions Pam, You don't have to wait 3 weeks to do an IFA test. I believe you can do it now. Here is a link that you can have them read, it is helpful... http://www.acfacat.com/felv.htm Since she is still a kitten her chances of clearing the virus is lower than if she was an adult. My kitten tested negative for it on the ELISA test when he was 5 mos, then at 9 mos tested a light positive, but was severely ill (anemic, heart murmur, very low oxygen level, and weakness) and we had to put him to sleep. He also had coccidia. In my opinion, what you plan on telling her is correct. However, you may want to mention that it may effect them financially. Even though she appears healthy now, she could need expensive meds later. Remember that cats hide their symptoms really well, but she could be able to clear the virus. I hope this is exactly what happens, then no worries either way. How old their kids are, in my opinion, would depend on how they would learn from this experience. You're heart is in the right place and she is very lucky to have you be so compassionate and eager to find her the home she deserves. Good luck! Keep us posted. I hope this helped. Lynda - Original Message - From: Pam Norman pam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:35 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Questiions Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy looks great. She has had so far only the snap test as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her give her good loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair objective so that they can make an informed compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Gosh, Tad, I read something like this and think, could I go through that? You're some kind of hero! Peace ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:04 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Questiions My vet always thought that they never were actually born with it but were infected moments after birth... And the mother who was very sick would pass soon after giving birth... The kittens would be in poor health because of poor nutrition from the sick mother... One of my first rescues was a litter of 4 kittens that were found alone at about one day old and were hand raised till at 8 weeks they were tested and found to be pos Again at 12 weeks and again at 16 weeks when they came to live with me They were all very healthy kittens... The first one passed at about 6 months... The second at 9 months and the last 2 at 11 and 12 months I have always thought that was average for kittens exposed at a very young age I have had several older pos. cats live for about 6 years Tad On 6/5/2011 12:48 PM, Natalie wrote: I know it can't be proven; but when they are born with it, they are usually sickish and die soon - most don't make it past a few months (that I have know of at my friend's rescue group). ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Questiions
Hi all, We are trying to give little Sabriina a chance. She is an approximately 5 month old lynx Siamese. She was pulled from a dope house was going to come to us as a foster until she was tested positive for FeLeuk. At the moment she is at a sanctuary about 75 miles from here. We are desperately trying to find someone who will take her for the approximately 6 months that I understand will give a good idea whether she can beat this virus or not. She is healthy looks great. She has had so far only the snap test as I understand it, the IFA test should follow in about 3 weeks. Is this correct? We have a daughter of a friend who MAY take her. But she has two small children the family had to put down their 2 Siamese about a year ago they are not anxious to take in a kitty that they will have to euthanize soon. I have not spoken to her yet but will be tomorrow I am planning on telling her pretty much the following: There are no guarantees as to how long a kitty will live who has tested positive for FeLeuk. It depends on a lot of factors - her general health how she is cared for - diet, freedom from stress, etc. Some kitties will not live long at all; others can live for years: still others will fall somewhere in between. No guarantees. They have no other cats right now I can tell them for sure that they will never have to euthanize her. If she continues to test positive, they have the option of having us take her to the sanctuary where she is not she would join the other FeLeuk cats in that part of the sanctuary. Or they can keep her give her good loving care for as long as she has, knowing that they played a huge part in making her life one filled with love. It would be hard on the kids but it would teach them something about compassion, about caring for an animal that they may lose, that it will hurt them to lose her, but that they know they have done a good beautiful thing. Please tell me if there is more I can tell her. I have never had a FeLeuk kitty before I am no expert on this. So I am very much in need to information I can provide that is fair objective so that they can make an informed compassionate decision. I very much want them to take her but I do not want to mislead them either. Please help me. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
