Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
very very true! On 7/13/05, Sue Feldbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the cement is sealed with say polyurethane. Otherwise, cement is very porous. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:52:18 EDT That sounds great especially the drain in the middle of the floor. A couple years ago I spent 8,000.00 to tear up carpet and replace with top of the line wood laminate all through my house. One month later the seams starting lifting and now I have messed up floors. The manufacturer said the warranty does not cover cat urine. I need something I can clean with bleach and soap. Guess cement would be good. -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
how do you put the tape on the door frames? doesn't it ruin the paint? t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clawing used to be an issue for me, they still shred the couch, but not the door frames anymore. I put long strips of regular clear packaging tape over all the door frames in scratching reach, and they decided they didn't like the feel of it anymore, because it's slippery and they can't dig in like on the bare wood, plus if they try too hard, the tape comes off and usually sticks on them, and they are running through the house with tape stuck on their bodies, like they are being attacked by a pack of coyotes... absolutely scares the bejesus out of them! I also, a few years back, invested in a absolutely WONDERFUL cat tree, I HIGHLY recommend the company to everyone now, my cats have SHREDDED this thing, and it still looks good, after 3 years and 5 cats. It was a bit pricey though http://www.4yourcat.com/pussicat/index.php I have the Mont Blanc tree, with the optional large base, plus I've added on a few extra parts over the years, which is what is so cool about these, they are completely modular, and you can re-arrange them and add on endlessly. I can send anyone who is interested in seeing my current set up a picture in private emails... my pics are too big to send via the list. If you wanna see it (and my livingroom) send me a private email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I am getting the idea slowly but surely, I have leather kitchen chairs that of course are ripped beyond repairthe door jams in the house are ripped beyond repair, (even though I do try) even the new rug I just put down is already snaggedclawing does not bother me PEE bothers me big time.No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
I agree! TOO funny! I tried putting one in my bedroom where they go in 2 corners. Well then EVERYONE started using it and my bedroom smelled to high heavens. 7 cats using 2 litterpans! tTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and your point is? hee heeOn 7/12/05, Tad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: This conversation reminds meJenn stopped by my house the other day and I didn't think anything of it at the time but I am sure she must have noticed the litter box on top of the dresser in the window... For some reason my cat with both hind legs crippled doesn't like to use a litter box on the floor...I have found that often times it easier to just put a litter box where they choose to go rather than have them go all around trying to find the place they are comfortable.Of coarse this box that's right up in plain sight for any humans coming by becomes everybody favorite box...but on the other hand its the easiest one to scoop too Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, the first thing I did when I moved into this apartment was peel back all the carpeting and see if there was any usable floor underneath. Luckily, in the bedroom there was decent wood floor, so I was able to toss the carpet in that room. The office has a very thin indoor/outdoor type of carpet with no padding over industrial tile, and the cats don't seem to like to pee on it (if they do, I'll take the carpet out). The livingroom is an issue, under it, is plain plywood, and it has, literally, about 5000 nails all across the entire floor. it would LOOK HORRIBLE if I pulled up the carpet. Since I rent, I'm not going to sink a ton of money into adding nice flooring myself, so we just deal with spots as they occur in there. That's why I paid a deposit :) Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet in the house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (I highly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively for Lowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles and hour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you can pick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to pee on and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: "if it can't be ruined, we don't buy it" and "we can't have anything nice!" :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005 -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
get the sheet vinyl like i'm getting. the top of the line stuff has a 15 year guarantee not to scratch, tear, scuff, etc the color goes all the way through. it's 'textured' to make it look like wood grain. it really doesn't look bad. if i could afford it i would tear up the laminate in the living areas and just do the whole house in it right now, but since i can't, i'm going to keep the laminate until it starts giving me problems. You can bleach the vinyl, etc and water can't get through it. t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds great especially the drain in the middle of the floor. A couple years ago I spent 8,000.00 to tear up carpet and replace with top of the line wood laminate all through my house. One month later the seams starting lifting and now I have messed up floors. The manufacturer said the warranty does not cover cat urine. I need something I can clean with bleach and soap. Guess cement would be good. jpgk7csUPGGZQ.jpg Description: JPEG image
Re: Tad's Special Needs Cat was: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
Tad: She is beautiful - can't even tell she is disabled. I loved the last picture of you and the meezers. Love that you have a houseful. I love them - especially the old apple heads and sealpoints are my favorite! We have a bluepoint himmy/siamese mix owner surrender and I love him to pieces and would have a house full however I am not allowed to rescue Siamese by my partner cuz of their tude - LOL. However we do have an inordinately large number of tabbies - which I also love but are king of the 'tudes and even worse four torties (your baby is beautiful) that have even worse tudes that Siamese or tabbies ever thought of having. And when you have a single kitten bottle baby tortie need I say more? Thanks for sharing your pictures. Now I am going to go look at your rescues and the other photos in the group. On 7/12/05, Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK..Took a bunch of brand new pictures and put them on Aforeverhome Group... -- /mari (SpiritCat)Until there are none, adopt one.SpiritCat and the Mooseheart Mumpkeesof southeastern Texas[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tad's Special Needs Cat was: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
Hi Mari Yes..The torti is a very special kitty...She not only is one of my FeLV+ kitties but she was very feral when she arrived here...I have had lots of strays the love a person that takes them in right away but she was my 1st feral... But I guess one big difference with ferals they need to be able to join a colony readily for their survivle...I had to hide on the couch under a blanket to watch her but I have never seen a new kitty just go around the room and rub and chirp to all my other cats in the room...It took a couple months before I could even look at her with out her taking cover...After 6 months that is the 1st good picture of her that she has let us takeWe can sneak a couple pats while she has her head in the food bowl but then she backs off and give us an angry stare like why do you try and do that look But beside that she is one of the most fun cats that I have had..just to watch her and watch her play with my 2 other playful boys..all about 2 years old... Tad Mari Kolbe wrote: Tad: even worse four torties (your baby is beautiful) that have even worse tudes that Siamese or tabbies ever thought of having. And when you have a single kitten bottle baby tortie need I say more? Thanks for sharing your pictures. Now I am going to go look at your rescues and the other photos in the group. On 7/12/05, Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK..Took a bunch of brand new pictures and put them on Aforeverhome Group... -- /mari (SpiritCat) Until there are none, adopt one. SpiritCat and the Mooseheart Mumpkees of southeastern Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
My frames are not painted, they are finished wood. The tape might ruin a BAD paint job, but shouldn't hurt a decent job if it was sanded and primed before painting. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.13/47 - Release Date: 7/12/2005
Re: Tad's Special Needs Cat was: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
Yes..The torti is a very special kitty...She not only is one of my FeLV+ kitties but she was very feral when she arrived here...I have had lots of strays the love a person that takes them in right away but she was my 1st feral... Tad: Yet another of us that are owned by house ferals. We have several sharing our home. We got Chicky Feathers and his littermates (also leuk +) when they were about 12 or 14 weeks. Chicky and a couple of the littermates lived behind our refrigerator for three years (hence his name). If we were in the room, you'd never know that they were there. We too used to watch them behind the cover of something. Like you said, there must be a colony instinct as they didn't take long at all to greet and adjust to the other kitchen kitties. After about six months, they would come out to eat at the feed tray if we were in the room and like you we'd get a couple of pets in before we were admonished. Chicky is the last remaining one of that group - we lost his sister, Earth Mother, this spring. Chicky is going on 14 yrs old now and will sometimes allow us to pet him if we bring food - LOL - or he is sitting in the group on top of the cages. While Earth Mother actually got to where she would come to us for pets from time to time, Chicky never has. He recently injured his ear and we thought for sure that it would be a major undertaking getting him into a carrier and to the vet. He actually let us pick him up and put him in the carrier and while at the vet he was totally docile during treatment. He has to be sprayed with this medication twice a day and he let us. But the sore is almost healed and he is getting tired of it - now when we come towards him, he backs up, turns his head away so we can't reach it and gives us a large his and the look. Hang in there - you are making great progress in only six months. Again, thanks for sharing pictures of your family. Now I'll know where to go when I need a Meezer fix. -- /mari (SpiritCat)Until there are none, adopt one.SpiritCat and the Mooseheart Mumpkeesof southeastern Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
If the cement is sealed with say polyurethane. Otherwise, cement is very porous. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:52:18 EDT That sounds great especially the drain in the middle of the floor. A couple years ago I spent 8,000.00 to tear up carpet and replace with top of the line wood laminate all through my house. One month later the seams starting lifting and now I have messed up floors. The manufacturer said the warranty does not cover cat urine. I need something I can clean with bleach and soap. Guess cement would be good.
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
You BOUGHT a $450 area rug?!!!??? (Oo) You must not be as much of a crazy cat lady as some of the rest of us. We don't even have cheap $6 bath mats on the floor. I have one, but I keep it thrown up over the shower bar, and only use it during showers, as soon as I am dry, I pick it up and throw it back up out of "cat pee reach". I forgot to put it up yesterday, and now I have to wash it today, it's in the "cat pee" hamper now. I wouldn't suggest replacing the rug it will just be ruined again.Rugs are areal waste of money if you have cats. I have a "rug" at the door entrance. It's a2 foot long cut section of heavy-dutyrubber backed high traffic carpet runner (the industrial stuff you see at businesses in the aisles). If they pee on it, the pee stays on it, and doesn't soak through to the carpet under it. I take it to the car wash down the road, pour a gallon of undiluted vinegar on it, let it soak for 5 minutes, and then spray it with the high pressure car soap (it's hot), then rinse it with the high pressure rinse. I got it at a reducedprice at the hardware store, because it was a remnant, cost me $12 ($6 a foot). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~yeah, I used quite a bit, they seem to hit two corners only, regretfully they ruined a $450 area rug by the front door, that will now need to be replaced ;-(( No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
I already replaced it an hour ago, I cleaned the floor and the wall, with 409, Oxy clean for pet stains and odors then I sprayed Zero Odor, then lastly I sprayed Feliway...I am keeping my fingers crossed...I did get the rug on sale foraround$305.00 yeah ;-))[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You BOUGHT a $450 area rug?!!!??? (Oo) You must not be as much of a crazy cat lady as some of the rest of us. We don't even have cheap $6 bath mats on the floor. I have one, but I keep it thrown up over the shower bar, and only use it during showers, as soon as I am dry, I pick it up and throw it back up out of "cat pee reach". I forgot to put it up yesterday, and now I have to wash it today, it's in the "cat pee" hamper now. I wouldn't suggest replacing the rug it will just be ruined again.Rugs are areal waste of money if you have cats. I have a "rug" at the door entrance. It's a2 foot long cut section of heavy-dutyrubber backed high traffic carpet runner (the industrial stuff you see at businesses in the aisles). If they pee on it, the pee stays on it, and doesn't soak through to the carpet under it. I take it to the car wash down the road, pour a gallon of undiluted vinegar on it, let it soak for 5 minutes, and then spray it with the high pressure car soap (it's hot), then rinse it with the high pressure rinse. I got it at a reducedprice at the hardware store, because it was a remnant, cost me $12 ($6 a foot). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~yeah, I used quite a bit, they seem to hit two corners only, regretfully they ruined a $450 area rug by the front door, that will now need to be replaced ;-((No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet in the house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (I highly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively for Lowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles and hour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you can pick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to pee on and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: if it can't be ruined, we don't buy it and we can't have anything nice! :) But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George You BOUGHT a $450 area rug?!!!??? (Oo) You must not be as much of a crazy cat lady as some of the rest of us. We don't even have cheap $6 bath mats on the floor. I have one, but I keep it thrown up over the shower bar, and only use it during showers, as soon as I am dry, I pick it up and throw it back up out of "cat pee reach". I forgot to put it up yesterday, and now I have to wash it today, it's in the "cat pee" hamper now. I wouldn't suggest replacing the rug it will just be ruined again.Rugs are areal waste of money if you have cats. I have a "rug" at the door entrance. It's a2 foot long cut section of heavy-dutyrubber backed high traffic carpet runner (the industrial stuff you see at businesses in the aisles). If they pee on it, the pee stays on it, and doesn't soak through to the carpet under it. I take it to the car wash down the road, pour a gallon of undiluted vinegar on it, let it soak for 5 minutes, and then spray it with the high pressure car soap (it's hot), then rinse it with the high pressure rinse. I got it at a reducedprice at the hardware store, because it was a remnant, cost me $12 ($6 a foot). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~yeah, I used quite a bit, they seem to hit two corners only, regretfully they ruined a $450 area rug by the front door, that will now need to be replaced ;-(( No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
my ideal would be to have a concrete floor, radiant heating, with a DRAIN in the middle of said floor to make washing so much easier. would artfully stencil the floor to create room divisions. (you know, oval flower border around the dining room table, faux marble for the bathroom.)-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
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I am getting the idea slowly but surely, I have leather kitchen chairs that of course are ripped beyond repairthe door jams in the house are ripped beyond repair, (even though I do try) even the new rug I just put down is already snaggedclawing doea not bother me PEE bothers me big time.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet inthe house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (Ihighly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively forLowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles andhour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you canpick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to peeon and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: "if itcan't be ruined, we don't buy it" and "we can't have anything nice!" :)"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief DanGeorge You BOUGHT a $450 area rug?!!!??? (Oo) You must not be as much of a crazy cat lady as some of the rest of us. We don't even have cheap $6 bath mats on the floor. I have one, but I keep it thrown up over the shower bar, and only use it during showers, as soon as I am dry, I pick it up and throw it back up out of "cat pee reach". I forgot to put it up yesterday, and now I have to wash it today, it's in the "cat pee" hamper now. I wouldn't suggest replacing the rug it will just be ruined again.Rugs are areal waste of money if you have cats. I have a "rug" at the door entrance. It's a2 foot long cut section of heavy-dutyrubber backed high traffic carpet runner (the industrial stuff you see at businesses in the aisles). If they pee on it, the pee stays on it, and doesn't soak through to the carpet under it. I take it to the car wash down the road, pour a gallon of undiluted vinegar on it, let it soak for 5 minutes, and then spray it with the high pressure car soap (it's hot), then rinse it with the high pressure rinse. I got it at a reducedprice at the hardware store, because it was a remnant, cost me $12 ($6 a foot). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~yeah, I used quite a bit, they seem to hit two corners only, regretfully they ruined a $450 area rug by the front door, that will now need to be replaced ;-((No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
Creates a funny pitcure ;-))TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my ideal would be to have a concrete floor, radiant heating, with a DRAIN in the middle of said floor to make washing so much easier. would artfully stencil the floor to create room divisions. (you know, oval flower border around the dining room table, faux marble for the bathroom.)-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
i just recently adopted out a darling little maine coon foster--he's an absolute sweetheart, but like many, he was allowed to play with teeth and claws as a tiny one and doesn't realize he's a BIG cat now he went to a home with a $3000 couch, and fancy wool rugs! (oh, my, let me tell you, that was NOT what he lived with here fur sure!).. hee hee... so he is now happily wearing his soft paws to protect his new home!-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
I have to remind ya'll about 2 products. Anti-Icky Poo (honest!) - my vet has it but I haven't had to use it yet: http://www.antiickypoo.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.displaycategory_ID=12OVRAW=anti-icky%20pooOVKEY=anti%20icky%20pooOVMTC=standard Liqui-Zyme - my vet carries it, had stopped for a while, but started again. One of them used it to get INTACT male spray out of a suitcase. Worked perfectly. I LOVE this product! United Laboratories website is www.beearthsmart.com here's a link to the Material Safety Data Sheet for Liqui-Zyme: http://www.beearthsmart.com/msdslist/pdf/455msds.pdf#search='liquizyme'Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already replaced it an hour ago, I cleaned the floor and the wall, with 409, Oxy clean for pet stains and odors then I sprayed Zero Odor, then lastly I sprayed Feliway...I am keeping my fingers crossed...I did get the rug on sale foraround$305.00 yeah ;-))[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You BOUGHT a $450 area rug?!!!??? (Oo) You must not be as much of a crazy cat lady as some of the rest of us. We don't even have cheap $6 bath mats on the floor. I have one, but I keep it thrown up over the shower bar, and only use it during showers, as soon as I am dry, I pick it up and throw it back up out of "cat pee reach". I forgot to put it up yesterday, and now I have to wash it today, it's in the "cat pee" hamper now. I wouldn't suggest replacing the rug it will just be ruined again.Rugs are areal waste of money if you have cats. I have a "rug" at the door entrance. It's a2 foot long cut section of heavy-dutyrubber backed high traffic carpet runner (the industrial stuff you see at businesses in the aisles). If they pee on it, the pee stays on it, and doesn't soak through to the carpet under it. I take it to the car wash down the road, pour a gallon of undiluted vinegar on it, let it soak for 5 minutes, and then spray it with the high pressure car soap (it's hot), then rinse it with the high pressure rinse. I got it at a reducedprice at the hardware store, because it was a remnant, cost me $12 ($6 a foot). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~yeah, I used quite a bit, they seem to hit two corners only, regretfully they ruined a $450 area rug by the front door, that will now need to be replaced ;-((No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005 Have a purrfect day Cherie Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items.
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
As many of us probally have ruined furniture...it is not even worth getting the soft pawsmy cats are happy as clams to get their claws in any new piece I get ;-))TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just recently adopted out a darling little maine coon foster--he's an absolute sweetheart, but like many, he was allowed to play with teeth and claws as a tiny one and doesn't realize he's a BIG cat nowhe went to a home with a $3000 couch, and fancy wool rugs! (oh, my, let me tell you, that was NOT what he lived with here fur sure!).. hee hee... so he is now happily wearing his soft paws to protect his new home!-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 Have a purrfect day Cherie
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Ok, I ordered the Anti-Icky Poo and the Liqui-Zyme from the internet.my Vet will not fix her, until she is over being in heat...how long is this going to last.I hope all this crap worksBarb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to remind ya'll about 2 products. Anti-Icky Poo (honest!) - my vet has it but I haven't had to use it yet: http://www.antiickypoo.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.displaycategory_ID=12OVRAW=anti-icky%20pooOVKEY=anti%20icky%20pooOVMTC=standard Liqui-Zyme - my vet carries it, had stopped for a while, but started again. One of them used it to get INTACT male spray out of a suitcase. Worked perfectly. I LOVE this product! United Laboratories website is www.beearthsmart.com here's a link to the Material Safety Data Sheet for Liqui-Zyme: http://www.beearthsmart.com/msdslist/pdf/455msds.pdf#search='liquizyme'Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already replaced it an hour ago, I cleaned the floor and the wall, with 409, Oxy clean for pet stains and odors then I sprayed Zero Odor, then lastly I sprayed Feliway...I am keeping my fingers crossed...I did get the rug on sale foraround$305.00 yeah ;-))[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You BOUGHT a $450 area rug?!!!??? (Oo) You must not be as much of a crazy cat lady as some of the rest of us. We don't even have cheap $6 bath mats on the floor. I have one, but I keep it thrown up over the shower bar, and only use it during showers, as soon as I am dry, I pick it up and throw it back up out of "cat pee reach". I forgot to put it up yesterday, and now I have to wash it today, it's in the "cat pee" hamper now. I wouldn't suggest replacing the rug it will just be ruined again.Rugs are areal waste of money if you have cats. I have a "rug" at the door entrance. It's a2 foot long cut section of heavy-dutyrubber backed high traffic carpet runner (the industrial stuff you see at businesses in the aisles). If they pee on it, the pee stays on it, and doesn't soak through to the carpet under it. I take it to the car wash down the road, pour a gallon of undiluted vinegar on it, let it soak for 5 minutes, and then spray it with the high pressure car soap (it's hot), then rinse it with the high pressure rinse. I got it at a reducedprice at the hardware store, because it was a remnant, cost me $12 ($6 a foot). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~yeah, I used quite a bit, they seem to hit two corners only, regretfully they ruined a $450 area rug by the front door, that will now need to be replaced ;-((No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005 Have a purrfect day Cherie Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items.Have a purrfect day Cherie
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Oh, the first thing I did when I moved into this apartment was peel back all the carpeting and see if there was any usable floor underneath. Luckily, in the bedroom there was decent wood floor, so I was able to toss the carpet in that room. The office has a very thin indoor/outdoor type of carpet with no padding overindustrial tile, and the cats don't seem to like to pee on it (if they do, I'll take the carpet out). The livingroom is an issue, under it, is plain plywood, and it has, literally, about 5000 nails all across the entire floor. it would LOOK HORRIBLE if I pulled up the carpet. Since I rent, I'm not going to sink a ton of money into adding nice flooring myself, so we just deal with spots as they occur in there. That's why I paid a deposit :) Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet inthe house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (Ihighly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively forLowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles andhour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you canpick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to peeon and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: "if itcan't be ruined, we don't buy it" and "we can't have anything nice!" :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
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we can't have anything nice! sure you can--isn't that what the CATS are for? i have AUTHENTIC persian rugs, gleefully shed daily in copious quantities, and absolutely EVERYTHING goes with calico, and who can beat basic black, or tuxedo? with a little red-and-white tossed in for contrast? someone reminded me that our cats add, ambience--which the decorating firms charge highly for! -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Clawing used to be an issue for me, they still shred the couch, but not the door frames anymore. I put long strips of regular clear packaging tape over all the door frames in scratching reach, and they decided they didn't like the feel of it anymore, because it's slippery and they can't dig in like on the bare wood, plus if they try too hard, the tape comes off and usually sticks on them, and they are running through the house with tape stuck on their bodies, like they are being attacked by a pack of coyotes... absolutely scares the bejesus out of them! I also, a few years back, invested in a absolutely WONDERFUL cat tree, I HIGHLY recommend the company to everyone now, my cats have SHREDDED this thing, and it still looks good, after 3 years and 5 cats. It was a bit pricey though http://www.4yourcat.com/pussicat/index.php I have the Mont Blanc tree, with the optional large base, plus I've added on a few extra parts over the years, which is what is so cool about these, they are completely modular, and you can re-arrange them and add on endlessly. I can send anyone who is interested in seeing my current set up a picture in private emails... my pics are too big to send via the list. If you wanna see it (and my livingroom) send me a private email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I am getting the idea slowly but surely, I have leather kitchen chairs that of course are ripped beyond repairthe door jams in the house are ripped beyond repair, (even though I do try) even the new rug I just put down is already snaggedclawing does not bother me PEE bothers me big time. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
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here here you said it.TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "we can't have anything nice!" sure you can--isn't that what the CATS are for? i have AUTHENTICpersian rugs, gleefully shed daily in copious quantities, andabsolutely EVERYTHING goes with calico, and who can beat basic black,or tuxedo? with a little red-and-white tossed in for contrast?someone reminded me that our cats add, "ambience"--which thedecorating firms charge highly for!-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
This conversation reminds meJenn stopped by my house the other day and I didn't think anything of it at the time but I am sure she must have noticed the litter box on top of the dresser in the window... For some reason my cat with both hind legs crippled doesn't like to use a litter box on the floor...I have found that often times it easier to just put a litter box where they choose to go rather than have them go all around trying to find the place they are comfortable.Of coarse this box that's right up in plain sight for any humans coming by becomes everybody favorite box...but on the other hand its the easiest one to scoop too Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, the first thing I did when I moved into this apartment was peel back all the carpeting and see if there was any usable floor underneath. Luckily, in the bedroom there was decent wood floor, so I was able to toss the carpet in that room. The office has a very thin indoor/outdoor type of carpet with no padding overindustrial tile, and the cats don't seem to like to pee on it (if they do, I'll take the carpet out). The livingroom is an issue, under it, is plain plywood, and it has, literally, about 5000 nails all across the entire floor. it would LOOK HORRIBLE if I pulled up the carpet. Since I rent, I'm not going to sink a ton of money into adding nice flooring myself, so we just deal with spots as they occur in there. That's why I paid a deposit :) Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet in the house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (I highly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively for Lowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles and hour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you can pick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to pee on and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: "if it can't be ruined, we don't buy it" and "we can't have anything nice!" :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
and your point is? hee hee On 7/12/05, Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This conversation reminds meJenn stopped by my house the other day and I didn't think anything of it at the time but I am sure she must have noticed the litter box on top of the dresser in the window... For some reason my cat with both hind legs crippled doesn't like to use a litter box on the floor...I have found that often times it easier to just put a litter box where they choose to go rather than have them go all around trying to find the place they are comfortable.Of coarse this box that's right up in plain sight for any humans coming by becomes everybody favorite box...but on the other hand its the easiest one to scoop too Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, the first thing I did when I moved into this apartment was peel back all the carpeting and see if there was any usable floor underneath. Luckily, in the bedroom there was decent wood floor, so I was able to toss the carpet in that room. The office has a very thin indoor/outdoor type of carpet with no padding over industrial tile, and the cats don't seem to like to pee on it (if they do, I'll take the carpet out). The livingroom is an issue, under it, is plain plywood, and it has, literally, about 5000 nails all across the entire floor. it would LOOK HORRIBLE if I pulled up the carpet. Since I rent, I'm not going to sink a ton of money into adding nice flooring myself, so we just deal with spots as they occur in there. That's why I paid a deposit :) Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet in the house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (I highly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively for Lowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles and hour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you can pick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to pee on and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: if it can't be ruined, we don't buy it and we can't have anything nice! :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005 -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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TOO FUNNY ;-))Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This conversation reminds meJenn stopped by my house the other day and I didn't think anything of it at the time but I am sure she must have noticed the litter box on top of the dresser in the window...For some reason my cat with both hind legs crippled doesn't like to use a litter box on the floor...I have found that often times it easier to just put a litter box where they choose to go rather than have them go all around trying to find the place they are comfortable.Of coarse this box that's right up in plain sight for any humans coming by becomes everybody favorite box...but on the other hand its the easiest one to scoop tooTad[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, the first thing I did when I moved into this apartment was peel back all the carpeting and see if there was any usable floor underneath. Luckily, in the bedroom there was decent wood floor, so I was able to toss the carpet in that room. The office has a very thin indoor/outdoor type of carpet with no padding overindustrial tile, and the cats don't seem to like to pee on it (if they do, I'll take the carpet out). The livingroom is an issue, under it, is plain plywood, and it has, literally, about 5000 nails all across the entire floor. it would LOOK HORRIBLE if I pulled up the carpet. Since I rent, I'm not going to sink a ton of money into adding nice flooring myself, so we just deal with spots as they occur in there. That's why I paid a deposit :) Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet inthe house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (Ihighly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively forLowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles andhour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you canpick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to peeon and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: "if itcan't be ruined, we don't buy it" and "we can't have anything nice!" :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005 Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
Well...I was wondering if Jenn noticed it and didn't say anything...or like me didn't think anything of it Tad TenHouseCats wrote: and your point is? hee hee On 7/12/05, Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This conversation reminds meJenn stopped by my house the other day and I didn't think anything of it at the time but I am sure she must have noticed the litter box on top of the dresser in the window... For some reason my cat with both hind legs crippled doesn't like to use a litter box on the floor...I have found that often times it easier to just put a litter box where they choose to go rather than have them go all around trying to find the place they are comfortable.Of coarse this box that's right up in plain sight for any humans coming by becomes everybody favorite box...but on the other hand its the easiest one to scoop too Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, the first thing I did when I moved into this apartment was peel back all the carpeting and see if there was any usable floor underneath. Luckily, in the bedroom there was decent wood floor, so I was able to toss the carpet in that room. The office has a very thin indoor/outdoor type of carpet with no padding over industrial tile, and the cats don't seem to like to pee on it (if they do, I'll take the carpet out). The livingroom is an issue, under it, is plain plywood, and it has, literally, about 5000 nails all across the entire floor. it would LOOK HORRIBLE if I pulled up the carpet. Since I rent, I'm not going to sink a ton of money into adding nice flooring myself, so we just deal with spots as they occur in there. That's why I paid a deposit :) Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet in the house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (I highly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively for Lowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles and hour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you can pick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to pee on and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: "if it can't be ruined, we don't buy it" and "we can't have anything nice!" :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
That sounds great especially the drain in the middle of the floor. A couple years ago I spent 8,000.00 to tear up carpet and replace with top of the line wood laminate all through my house. One month later the seams starting lifting and now I have messed up floors. The manufacturer said the warranty does not cover cat urine. I need something I can clean with bleach and soap. Guess cement would be good.
Tad's Special Needs Cat was: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
You really should post a picture of her online, so everyone can see her.It is fascinating how well she copes with her legs deformed as they are. I would very much like to see pictures of your baby Tad. You may send them to me off list since this topic is an OT, but we currently have several babies with missing and/or deformed rear legs and are in the process of adopting another little one who has only 1/2 stubbs for legs. While the ones we have are doing fine (one has about 2/3 of her rear legs and no feet) I am a little concerned about the new baby coming who has only a small amount of leg and no feet. His current care giver says he is using a modified litter box and zipping around the house with his bonded litter mate doing regular kitten things. -- /mari (SpiritCat)Until there are none, adopt one.SpiritCat and the Mooseheart Mumpkeesof southeastern Texas[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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She has never known anything else...When I 1st noticed when she was a day old I worried that she would get pushed away at the milk bar...7 in the litter...But when you think about it front paws are more effective at pushing others out of her way...At he end of the 1st week she was the fattest one of all...Cats always land front paws 1st..She just puts a little more weight on them...She climbs up just like a jimnast...Gab with the front paws and pull herself up over...She can reach the desk chair seat from the floor and the top of the dresser from the seat...and she gets up on the perch on the climbing tree that was beside the litter box... People have asked if she could be fitted with dolly wheels...But she couldn't climb with those..She would be very unhappy Cats are wonderfully adaptable to their environment and she is the best proof Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I quite honestly did not even notice it, as the forth mentioned "crippled" cat was basically clobbering me with attention and throwing itself at me in an effort to get me to pet her... LOL... I was a bit preoccupied with trying to keep the crazy sweet thing from throwing herself off the headboard of your bed in a effort to be in my arms! I'm never met a cat so unaware of her own limitations! I know you SAID she can jump down and land OK, but I'm still going to be a bit skeptical on that issue... You really should post a picture of her online, so everyone can see her.It is fascinating how well she copes with her legs deformed as they are. I said I wasn't going to reply to this thread on the list again, because it's so off topic now LOL! You guys are making me break the rules! Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Well...I was wondering if Jenn noticed it and didn't say anything...or like me didn't think anything of it Tad No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Tad's Special Needs Cat was: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
I have pictures of her but none that show her handicap or her in action...As Jenn said she is a big love bug and I have a lot of pictures of her sitting and posing for the camera...When she does anything its just like any cat...1..2 and its done...no time to grab the cameraIts was a long time before we even saw how she was able to get on the perch on the climbing tree...Its a big stretch but if she can reach it she can pull herself up on it... Tad Mari Kolbe wrote: You really should post a picture of her online, so everyone can see her.It is fascinating how well she copes with her legs deformed as they are. I would very much like to see pictures of your baby Tad. You may send them to me off list since this topic is an OT, but we currently have several babies with missing and/or deformed rear legs and are in the process of adopting another little one who has only 1/2" stubbs for legs. While the ones we have are doing fine (one has about 2/3 of her rear legs and no feet) I am a little concerned about the new baby coming who has only a small amount of leg and no feet. His current care giver says he is using a modified litter box and zipping around the house with his bonded litter mate doing regular kitten things. -- /mari (SpiritCat) Until there are none, adopt one. SpiritCat and the Mooseheart Mumpkees of southeastern Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You mean your cats don't eat scotch tape? A couple of mine love it. They take it off any boxes, wherever. Sancho chews on it ... eats it ... throws it up :) He goes nuts for styrofoam ... eats it, throws it up. Any soft plastic bags, same routine! Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs) Clawing used to be an issue for me, they still shred the couch, but not the door frames anymore. I put long strips of regular clear packaging tape over all the door frames in scratching reach, and they decided they didn't like the feel of it anymore, because it's slippery and they can't dig in like on the bare wood, plus if they try too hard, the tape comes off and usually sticks on them, and they are running through the house with tape stuck on their bodies, like they are being attacked by a pack of coyotes... absolutely scares the bejesus out of them! I also, a few years back, invested in a absolutely WONDERFUL cat tree, I HIGHLY recommend the company to everyone now, my cats have SHREDDED this thing, and it still looks good, after 3 years and 5 cats. It was a bit pricey though http://www.4yourcat.com/pussicat/index.php I have the Mont Blanc tree, with the optional large base, plus I've added on a few extra parts over the years, which is what is so cool about these, they are completely modular, and you can re-arrange them and add on endlessly. I can send anyone who is interested in seeing my current set up a picture in private emails... my pics are too big to send via the list. If you wanna see it (and my livingroom) send me a private email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I am getting the idea slowly but surely, I have leather kitchen chairs that of course are ripped beyond repairthe door jams in the house are ripped beyond repair, (even though I do try) even the new rug I just put down is already snaggedclawing does not bother me PEE bothers me big time. No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
I'm not talking about scotch office tape, I mean the 2 inch wide clear packaging tape, just to be clear, I know that's what you are referring to also. And no, my cats don't touch it, they think it will attack them and kill them. They are very paranoid when it comes to things that stick to them. They hate having their hair pulled out by the stuff, or getting it stuck to their paws. Doobie DOES eat paper and other such things. I had a stray for a while (Moogie's mom) that ate plastic bags. Doobie sticks with generally digestible things, mostly toilet paper or junk mail. He rarely throws it up, he seems to digest it well, though it does make him anemic occasionally, so I have to dose him with what I fondly refer to as "vity-mighty-mins!" I say "Dbie, it's time for your Vity-mighty-mins!!!" and he RUNS as fast as he can and hides... LOL! I think it must taste really horrible... Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ You mean your cats don't eat scotch tape? A couple of mine love it. They take it off any boxes, wherever. Sancho chews on it ... eats it ... throws it up :) He goes nuts for styrofoam ... eats it, throws it up. Any soft plastic bags, same routine! Del No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Tad's Special Needs Cat was: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
OK..Took a bunch of brand new pictures and put them on Aforeverhome Group... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aforeverhome/ just click join if you haven't already and go to photos... The album is Tad's siamese...Look at them all if you want and start your own album too Tad Mari Kolbe wrote: You really should post a picture of her online, so everyone can see her.It is fascinating how well she copes with her legs deformed as they are. I would very much like to see pictures of your baby Tad. You may send them to me off list since this topic is an OT, but we currently have several babies with missing and/or deformed rear legs and are in the process of adopting another little one who has only 1/2" stubbs for legs. While the ones we have are doing fine (one has about 2/3 of her rear legs and no feet) I am a little concerned about the new baby coming who has only a small amount of leg and no feet. His current care giver says he is using a modified litter box and zipping around the house with his bonded litter mate doing regular kitten things. -- /mari (SpiritCat) Until there are none, adopt one. SpiritCat and the Mooseheart Mumpkees of southeastern Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
