Re: [Felvtalk] 2nd holistic vet visit
one of the best sources of omega-3 fatty acids, EPA and DHA is fish oil. But, it is relatively difficult for the body to convert it because it comes in the form of triglyceride in a majority of the supplements. The body has to convert the complex triglyceride form of omega-3 fatty acids into ester form before they can be used by it. Therefore, when we take esterified fatty acids in the form of fish oil supplements for our Omega 3 requirements, the body has to do less work and achieves greater benefit from esterified fatty acids, which are more readily usable by our body. In order to maximize the benefits from them, you should look for Omega 3 esters that are made from purified and molecularly distilled fish oil. Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/2365386 On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: Thanks! I'm an Amazon.com fan too - On Mar 27, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Periodontal-Health-Advance-Formula-Softgels/dp/B004BAY9ZW On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:10 PM, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Sounds good! The web shows it's esterified fatty acids, but it's hard to find an understandable definition. How/where can one get it Michelle? Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:46 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: Esterilized Fatty Acids for oral health seriously helped my FIV+ cat with horrible stomatitis. Was like a miracle. A veterinary dentist put him on it. Michelle -Original Message- From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Mar 26, 2014 10:20 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] 2nd holistic vet visit Took Merls in today. Could not afford it but I was really worried about his mouth. He has nasty lesions but is still eating. He will be on the feline immune booster as well as a holistic concoction for his mouth. Recheck in 3 weeks. Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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the periodontal ones are specifically formulated and are rubbed onto the gums, not pilled. Michelle -Original Message- From: WarmFuzzy's fuz...@warmfuzzys.org To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, Mar 29, 2014 12:49 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2nd holistic vet visit one of the best sources of omega-3 fatty acids, EPA and DHA is fish oil. But, it is relatively difficult for the body to convert it because it comes in the form of triglyceride in a majority of the supplements. The body has to convert the complex triglyceride form of omega-3 fatty acids into ester form before they can be used by it. Therefore, when we take esterified fatty acids in the form of fish oil supplements for our Omega 3 requirements, the body has to do less work and achieves greater benefit from esterified fatty acids, which are more readily usable by our body. In order to maximize the benefits from them, you should look for Omega 3 esters that are made from purified and molecularly distilled fish oil. Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/2365386 On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: Thanks! I'm an Amazon.com fan too - On Mar 27, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Periodontal-Health-Advance-Formula-Softgels/dp/B004BAY9ZW On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:10 PM, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Sounds good! The web shows it's esterified fatty acids, but it's hard to find an understandable definition. How/where can one get it Michelle? Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:46 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: Esterilized Fatty Acids for oral health seriously helped my FIV+ cat with horrible stomatitis. Was like a miracle. A veterinary dentist put him on it. Michelle -Original Message- From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Mar 26, 2014 10:20 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] 2nd holistic vet visit Took Merls in today. Could not afford it but I was really worried about his mouth. He has nasty lesions but is still eating. He will be on the feline immune booster as well as a holistic concoction for his mouth. Recheck in 3 weeks. Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have been looking for a Holistic Vet in the Dallas Fort Worth area and The only one I can find on the Internet has gotten terrible reviews. If anyone around this area is using one please respond. I already have my 2 (brother sister) 10 month old FELV positive kitties on a no-grain wet and dry food plus an an immune booster. My vet really doesn't seem to know a lot about FELV and that's scary. Thank you, Lori Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Kelley moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Took Merls in today. Could not afford it but I was really worried about his mouth. He has nasty lesions but is still eating. He will be on the feline immune booster as well as a holistic concoction for his mouth. Recheck in 3 weeks. Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Esterilized Fatty Acids for oral health seriously helped my FIV+ cat with horrible stomatitis. Was like a miracle. A veterinary dentist put him on it. Michelle -Original Message- From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Mar 26, 2014 10:20 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] 2nd holistic vet visit Took Merls in today. Could not afford it but I was really worried about his mouth. He has nasty lesions but is still eating. He will be on the feline immune booster as well as a holistic concoction for his mouth. Recheck in 3 weeks. Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sounds good! The web shows it's esterified fatty acids, but it's hard to find an understandable definition. How/where can one get it Michelle? Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:46 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: Esterilized Fatty Acids for oral health seriously helped my FIV+ cat with horrible stomatitis. Was like a miracle. A veterinary dentist put him on it. Michelle -Original Message- From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Mar 26, 2014 10:20 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] 2nd holistic vet visit Took Merls in today. Could not afford it but I was really worried about his mouth. He has nasty lesions but is still eating. He will be on the feline immune booster as well as a holistic concoction for his mouth. Recheck in 3 weeks. Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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http://www.amazon.com/Periodontal-Health-Advance-Formula-Softgels/dp/B004BAY9ZW On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:10 PM, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Sounds good! The web shows it's esterified fatty acids, but it's hard to find an understandable definition. How/where can one get it Michelle? Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:46 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: Esterilized Fatty Acids for oral health seriously helped my FIV+ cat with horrible stomatitis. Was like a miracle. A veterinary dentist put him on it. Michelle -Original Message- From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Mar 26, 2014 10:20 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] 2nd holistic vet visit Took Merls in today. Could not afford it but I was really worried about his mouth. He has nasty lesions but is still eating. He will be on the feline immune booster as well as a holistic concoction for his mouth. Recheck in 3 weeks. Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I got it from a veterinary dentist, but I believe I later ordered it online. Michelle -Original Message- From: Gblane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, Mar 27, 2014 6:10 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2nd holistic vet visit Sounds good! The web shows it's esterified fatty acids, but it's hard to find an understandable definition. How/where can one get it Michelle? Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:46 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: Esterilized Fatty Acids for oral health seriously helped my FIV+ cat with horrible stomatitis. Was like a miracle. A veterinary dentist put him on it. Michelle -Original Message- From: Kelley moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Mar 26, 2014 10:20 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] 2nd holistic vet visit Took Merls in today. Could not afford it but I was really worried about his mouth. He has nasty lesions but is still eating. He will be on the feline immune booster as well as a holistic concoction for his mouth. Recheck in 3 weeks. Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] 2nd holistic vet visit
Took Merls in today. Could not afford it but I was really worried about his mouth. He has nasty lesions but is still eating. He will be on the feline immune booster as well as a holistic concoction for his mouth. Recheck in 3 weeks. Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Wonderful, Kelley, glad to hear the good news, and great price. Wish she was closer to me. Gloria in Arkansas On Mar 19, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Kelley wrote: Hi everyone, Coco and I had our first visit to the holistic vet today. I was very excited. It was very different from a traditional vet visit. No exam tables - just cushions on the floor. She gave coco a very thorough exam with plenty of time for questions. She recommends against any further vaccinations (coco has had fvrcp and rabies vaccines) and will write me a waiver for future rabies exams. She recommends a raw diet and supplementation with feline immune system support tablets by standard process. Total bill today was $55.92 including the exam and supplement. I got discounts of $15 for the exam and $2.30 for the supplement. So far we have been donated $45 so that comes close to covering all of it If you live on the gulf coast I highly recommend her. Www.creatingwellbeings.com I will be posting pics on their website later Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Holistic vet visit today
Hi everyone, Coco and I had our first visit to the holistic vet today. I was very excited. It was very different from a traditional vet visit. No exam tables - just cushions on the floor. She gave coco a very thorough exam with plenty of time for questions. She recommends against any further vaccinations (coco has had fvrcp and rabies vaccines) and will write me a waiver for future rabies exams. She recommends a raw diet and supplementation with feline immune system support tablets by standard process. Total bill today was $55.92 including the exam and supplement. I got discounts of $15 for the exam and $2.30 for the supplement. So far we have been donated $45 so that comes close to covering all of it If you live on the gulf coast I highly recommend her. Www.creatingwellbeings.com I will be posting pics on their website later Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Gary, All my husband did was go to their website at http://www.imulan.com/. You can look under Feline Leukemia and download their brochures. I hope this link help you. If not, please let me know, Thanks From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:45:33 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet Hi Christy, Thanks, I would appreciate the info. WOW, $140 a shot is OUTRAGEOUS. When I started looking into it the shots were $50 to $65 (I think that was about double what the original company was charging)and I just saw a recent post where someone was paying $85. Either Imulan has gotten very greedy or your vet is making a handsome profit for giving a shot. Gary - Original Message - From: Christy Buchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet Gary, I will ask my husband where he found all the research information. He spent hours upon hours researching this as well as much as he could find on the Feline Leukemia in general. Our Family vet called and spoke to one of the doctors there and was told that they had some very good results. I do agree that the shots are costly, at $140 weekly. We even had gone through UC Davis here in California, where we live and they knew nothing about the Imulan. Of course, we found they did not know quite a bit. We figured that why not try. As soon as I find out the specific research information, I will forward it___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Holistic vet
I am taking my kitten, Tommy, to a holistic vet this morning. After speaking with her yesterday, I am very encouraged! Like some of you have told me, she said that a separation would be too stressful on ALL of the cats, which is the worst thing for their little immune systems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We just started our cat, Gray Kitty, on an holistic medication called Ashwagandha drops, as well as, Bioplasma tablets. These are supposed to help rebuild their Red Blood Cells. They were recommeded by our family Vet. Also, we have him on a weekly regiman of LTIC, Immulan injections. Our Vet had never heard of the LTCI until my husband did a lot of research. He called the company and they have had good results with Feline Leukemia patients. They have documented studies. These seem to be bringing his Hematocrit numbers back up! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:20:33 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet I am taking my kitten, Tommy, to a holistic vet this morning. After speaking with her yesterday, I am very encouraged! Like some of you have told me, she said that a separation would be too stressful on ALL of the cats, which is the worst thing for their little immune systems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Oh, so you have him on the Immulan! My holistic vet gave me info on that, but has never used it before, so I am still thinking about it. Would you mind sharing cost info with me? Tommy was started on two new medicines - DMG to boost his immune system, and a homeopathic mixture of Engystol and Galium as an anti-viral. I am very encouraged! On Tue 18/11/08 1:45 PM , Christy Buchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: We just started our cat, Gray Kitty, on an holistic medication called Ashwagandha drops, as well as, Bioplasma tablets. These are supposed to help rebuild their Red Blood Cells. They were recommeded by our family Vet. Also, we have him on a weekly regiman of LTIC, Immulan injections. Our Vet had never heard of the LTCI until my husband did a lot of research. He called the company and they have had good results with Feline Leukemia patients. They have documented studies. These seem to be bringing his Hematocrit numbers back up! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Christy, Do you know if these items will work if the anemia is already in the bone marrow? My Buzz is taking Prednesolone, Leukeran and has been on Doxycycline and they are no longer working - my vet says it is because the problem is in his bone marrow. He does not have more then a few days to live if that. If these thiings would help him and if I could get them REALLY fast maybe he would have a chance? Thank you, Sue Christy Buchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just started our cat, Gray Kitty, on an holistic medication called Ashwagandha drops, as well as, Bioplasma tablets. These are supposed to help rebuild their Red Blood Cells. They were recommeded by our family Vet. Also, we have him on a weekly regiman of LTIC, Immulan injections. Our Vet had never heard of the LTCI until my husband did a lot of research. He called the company and they have had good results with Feline Leukemia patients. They have documented studies. These seem to be bringing his Hematocrit numbers back up! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:20:33 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet I am taking my kitten, Tommy, to a holistic vet this morning. After speaking with her yesterday, I am very encouraged! Like some of you have told me, she said that a separation would be too stressful on ALL of the cats, which is the worst thing for their little immune systems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Christy, Hope it all helps Gray Kitty get better. If you know of any specific studies done on LTCI and where one could look at the documentation of those studies, I would greatly appreciate it. I have heard of cases where it seemed to help and others where it did not. When I called them they would not discuss any testing results with a non-vet. My vet called and he said they had very little in the way of test results. I am upset that Imulan took over this drug (bought it from the company that developed it) and raised the price to a level that most people cannot afford. I know they were seeking cats for a 30 day trial of LTCI, I'm not sure a 30 day trial will yield a valid result about the drug. Gary - Original Message - From: Christy Buchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet We just started our cat, Gray Kitty, on an holistic medication called Ashwagandha drops, as well as, Bioplasma tablets. These are supposed to help rebuild their Red Blood Cells. They were recommeded by our family Vet. Also, we have him on a weekly regiman of LTIC, Immulan injections. Our Vet had never heard of the LTCI until my husband did a lot of research. He called the company and they have had good results with Feline Leukemia patients. They have documented studies. These seem to be bringing his Hematocrit numbers back up! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:20:33 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet I am taking my kitten, Tommy, to a holistic vet this morning. After speaking with her yesterday, I am very encouraged! Like some of you have told me, she said that a separation would be too stressful on ALL of the cats, which is the worst thing for their little immune systems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3622 (20081118) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Gary, You are right about the studies not being long enough. The company is still testing the drug. It may be possible though your vet to get it as part of a trial. I have no idea what is involved. I have heard from someone on another group that her vet used to be in the trial for immulan and he feels the drug is useful. He continues to use it for FELV cats. He however opted not to continue with the studies because of the issue you bring up. Sue I am not sure about a cat who critically ill whether this would pull them out. Is it the anemia that is the problem, if so would a transfusion buy you some time so you can get this treatment? When my Felv kitties crashed they crashed hard. The choice was easy then, not to have them suffer. I was lucky to have been able to buy Junior 1.5 years of time with us. He did not suffer. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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not all snake oil is good snake oil. see where the data comes from, and whether or not the studies, and trials meet scientific criteria before taking the word of any manufacturer of ANYTHING. think pet food. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The cost of each shot is $140.00. We have him on weekly injections as he seems to do better. My husband was insistent about starting him on these since he had researched it so intensely. We also have him on the homeopathic meds as well. He is a true fighter. We know that since the leukemia has gone into his bone marrow, we have a limited time with him, however, we are taking each day that we have. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:44:28 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet Oh, so you have him on the Immulan! My holistic vet gave me info on that, but has never used it before, so I am still thinking about it. Would you mind sharing cost info with me? Tommy was started on two new medicines - DMG to boost his immune system, and a homeopathic mixture of Engystol and Galium as an anti-viral. I am very encouraged! On Tue 18/11/08 1:45 PM , Christy Buchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: We just started our cat, Gray Kitty, on an holistic medication called Ashwagandha drops, as well as, Bioplasma tablets. These are supposed to help rebuild their Red Blood Cells. They were recommeded by our family Vet. Also, we have him on a weekly regiman of LTIC, Immulan injections. Our Vet had never heard of the LTCI until my husband did a lot of research. He called the company and they have had good results with Feline Leukemia patients. They have documented studies. These seem to be bringing his Hematocrit numbers back up! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Gary, I will ask my husband where he found all the research information. He spent hours upon hours researching this as well as much as he could find on the Feline Leukemia in general. Our Family vet called and spoke to one of the doctors there and was told that they had some very good results. I do agree that the shots are costly, at $140 weekly. We even had gone through UC Davis here in California, where we live and they knew nothing about the Imulan. Of course, we found they did not know quite a bit. We figured that why not try. As soon as I find out the specific research information, I will forward it. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:40:46 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet Hi Christy, Hope it all helps Gray Kitty get better. If you know of any specific studies done on LTCI and where one could look at the documentation of those studies, I would greatly appreciate it. I have heard of cases where it seemed to help and others where it did not. When I called them they would not discuss any testing results with a non-vet. My vet called and he said they had very little in the way of test results. I am upset that Imulan took over this drug (bought it from the company that developed it) and raised the price to a level that most people cannot afford. I know they were seeking cats for a 30 day trial of LTCI, I'm not sure a 30 day trial will yield a valid result about the drug. Gary - Original Message - From: Christy Buchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet We just started our cat, Gray Kitty, on an holistic medication called Ashwagandha drops, as well as, Bioplasma tablets. These are supposed to help rebuild their Red Blood Cells. They were recommeded by our family Vet. Also, we have him on a weekly regiman of LTIC, Immulan injections. Our Vet had never heard of the LTCI until my husband did a lot of research. He called the company and they have had good results with Feline Leukemia patients. They have documented studies. These seem to be bringing his Hematocrit numbers back up! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:20:33 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet I am taking my kitten, Tommy, to a holistic vet this morning. After speaking with her yesterday, I am very encouraged! Like some of you have told me, she said that a separation would be too stressful on ALL of the cats, which is the worst thing for their little immune systems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3622 (20081118) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the “I’m a PC” Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Christy, Thanks, I would appreciate the info. WOW, $140 a shot is OUTRAGEOUS. When I started looking into it the shots were $50 to $65 (I think that was about double what the original company was charging)and I just saw a recent post where someone was paying $85. Either Imulan has gotten very greedy or your vet is making a handsome profit for giving a shot. Gary - Original Message - From: Christy Buchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet Gary, I will ask my husband where he found all the research information. He spent hours upon hours researching this as well as much as he could find on the Feline Leukemia in general. Our Family vet called and spoke to one of the doctors there and was told that they had some very good results. I do agree that the shots are costly, at $140 weekly. We even had gone through UC Davis here in California, where we live and they knew nothing about the Imulan. Of course, we found they did not know quite a bit. We figured that why not try. As soon as I find out the specific research information, I will forward it ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Dr. Maier at http://www.horizonvetserv.com/ She does phone and email consultations. She usually has you fax records to her. She's great. Phone and Fax: (502) 722-8231 7021 Shelbyville RdSimpsonville, KY 40067 Caroline K. Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:05:22 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Holistic VetDoes anyone have a holistic vet that is willing to consult via phone or email? Autumn has uveitis in both eyes and we are currently treating with topical steroids. Her vet is afraid she may lose sight in her left eye or both as the problem seems to be sympathetic. This just flared up in the left eye yesterday and I got her into the vet today. I am very concerned that she may lose her sight. She's such and active and curious little person. It scares me. I know a lot of people have had great luck with lysine - I just need to speak to someone about these things so that I feel comfortable with what I'm doing. First thing, I want to do no harm. She's plumped up to 7.1 lbs and other than her head and eyes hurting she seems happy. We have to do a sight test twice a day and record the results. I'm still sort of numb over this, I thought we had vanquished the inflammation in her right eye. Please help.~Susan A. _ Watch “Cause Effect,” a show about real people making a real difference. Learn more. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause
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Here are two wonderful vets. Betty Boswell: 502.499.9663 Betty can be hard to reach since she rarely has office staff during the day. Just keep trying. Susan Maier can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 502.722.8231. She has a nice website that I will try to attach to this but I am having computer fits. Carolyn has had Susan's help too. She did some sort of internship under Betty. If I don't get to attach the website Google Simpsonville KY and Horizon Vet and it should pop up. I have complete faith in both of these doctors. Both have a lot of practise with Felv+ cats. Good luck and blessings to you and Autumn. She is very lucky and knows it. On Mar 20, 2008, at 10:05 PM, Susan Ang wrote: Does anyone have a holistic vet that is willing to consult via phone or email? Autumn has uveitis in both eyes and we are currently treating with topical steroids. Her vet is afraid she may lose sight in her left eye or both as the problem seems to be sympathetic. This just flared up in the left eye yesterday and I got her into the vet today. I am very concerned that she may lose her sight. She's such and active and curious little person. It scares me. I know a lot of people have had great luck with lysine - I just need to speak to someone about these things so that I feel comfortable with what I'm doing. First thing, I want to do no harm. She's plumped up to 7.1 lbs and other than her head and eyes hurting she seems happy. We have to do a sight test twice a day and record the results. I'm still sort of numb over this, I thought we had vanquished the inflammation in her right eye. Please help. ~Susan A.
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Thank you both, Caroline and Marylyn, for these recommendations. I have been looking for a holistic vet for Missy. On 3/21/08, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are two wonderful vets. Betty Boswell: 502.499.9663 Betty can be hard to reach since she rarely has office staff during the day. Just keep trying. Susan Maier can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 502.722.8231. She has a nice website that I will try to attach to this but I am having computer fits. Carolyn has had Susan's help too. She did some sort of internship under Betty. If I don't get to attach the website Google Simpsonville KY and Horizon Vet and it should pop up. I have complete faith in both of these doctors. Both have a lot of practise with Felv+ cats. Good luck and blessings to you and Autumn. She is very lucky and knows it. On Mar 20, 2008, at 10:05 PM, Susan Ang wrote: Does anyone have a holistic vet that is willing to consult via phone or email? Autumn has uveitis in both eyes and we are currently treating with topical steroids. Her vet is afraid she may lose sight in her left eye or both as the problem seems to be sympathetic. This just flared up in the left eye yesterday and I got her into the vet today. I am very concerned that she may lose her sight. She's such and active and curious little person. It scares me. I know a lot of people have had great luck with lysine - I just need to speak to someone about these things so that I feel comfortable with what I'm doing. First thing, I want to do no harm. She's plumped up to 7.1 lbs and other than her head and eyes hurting she seems happy. We have to do a sight test twice a day and record the results. I'm still sort of numb over this, I thought we had vanquished the inflammation in her right eye. Please help. ~Susan A. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties
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Does anyone have a holistic vet that is willing to consult via phone or email? Autumn has uveitis in both eyes and we are currently treating with topical steroids. Her vet is afraid she may lose sight in her left eye or both as the problem seems to be sympathetic. This just flared up in the left eye yesterday and I got her into the vet today. I am very concerned that she may lose her sight. She's such and active and curious little person. It scares me. I know a lot of people have had great luck with lysine - I just need to speak to someone about these things so that I feel comfortable with what I'm doing. First thing, I want to do no harm. She's plumped up to 7.1lbs and other than her head and eyes hurting she seems happy. We have to do a sight test twice a day and record the results. I'm still sort of numb over this, I thought we had vanquished the inflammation in her right eye. Please help. ~Susan A.
