Re: Fire update/Sprinkler systems
ADT is fine if you are home. The sprinkler system gives my little friends a really good chance if I am not here which, unfortunately, if a lot of the time. I really can't say enough good things about B B. They have made so many trips down herethey even sent Gary when I had trouble with the bell refusing to shut up (I believe this was due to the electrician screwing up). I would encourage anyone to price out retrofitting. My contractor let ceilings be installed before B B was called in (he did everything backwards) and the price was still under $9000. FYI this is a house designed as a possible duplexpromises made to my father before he left this world + possible needs of my own in my old age. Appx 2400 square feet on the main floor with a comparable walkout basement and appx 1100 square foot attached and sprinkled garage. (OK.there is enough room in the garage for some critter areas + a drain and sink for critter bathing when Dixie gets a dog). Again, really cheap but something no one thinks about unless they have seen body bags coming out of a fire. I know I am repeating myself but hopefully someone will check it out. It is the one thing about this house that has gone right. The only thing I should say. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Fire update Marilyn, you smart cookie, or should I say, you smart kitty treat, you are SO RIGHT! One of the cheapest things you can do to avert a major fire tragedy is to install sprinklers. Losing everything and everyone is much more painful. Also, if you are retrofitting an already built house it will cost more but if you're lucky enough to live in a ranch not that much more. Thanks for the excellent tips--I'm keeping them in mind. And, now that I think of it, sprinklers should work out much better than ADT--which scares me and my mom straight up in the air when it goes off--for instance, when a spider walks into one of the smoke detectors--they're so spider-cozy. Waking up to a faceful of cold water would be much less alarming--and won't scare the kitties to death, either! Tee Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Aug 11, 2007, at 4:18 PM, Marylyn wrote: A thought to those who are building or remodeling: fire suppression sprinkler systems are available for very reasonable prices. Check it out. And don't be put off by jerks in the business . I have had approximately 6000 square feet (basement, house, garage and partial attic) done for well under $9000 and they traveled appx 120 miles one way to install and maintain the system. B and B out of Louisville Ky did my home and I got an equal or better quote from Bullitt. B B was able to do the ceiling/glycol system that included the garage (important for animals) and it is a property saving system (more head and not dependent on people/animals getting out of the structure). However, one jerk quoted me a system that, according to him, was the only one that met state requirements, cost appx $40,000.00. Several fire chiefs/assistant fire chiefs used B B and are extremely pleased with the coverage...and so are the insurance companies. All of this is to say, check it out. And check it out with more than one company if you get someone who is being a total jerk. It really may fit in your budget. It certainly makes me sleep a lot easier. The volunteer fire department here is totally wonderful and I support it 110 per cent but there is only so much you can do in a rural area. These systems are becoming more common in metro areas too. Mine is a new build and I could not bare the though of leaving my little ones here alone without protection I could provide. Take what you can use and leave the rest. As for the missing little ones, please try to calm yourself and send out wonderful, strong beams of light to them so them know where to come and be with you. They are confused as are you. And blessings to you and all of them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis
Re: Fire update
and lots and lots of paws On 8/11/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears the kitten has been discovered so now down to only 2 missing adults, Please keep all fingers and toes crossed for Susan.. Kelly -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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blessings. I love that she is still trying to find them. Prayers and head butts to Susan and all her furries. - Original Message - From: MaryChristine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Fire update and lots and lots of paws On 8/11/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears the kitten has been discovered so now down to only 2 missing adults, Please keep all fingers and toes crossed for Susan.. Kelly -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Fire update
A thought to those who are building or remodeling: fire suppression sprinkler systems are available for very reasonable prices. Check it out. And don't be put off by jerks in the business . I have had approximately 6000 square feet (basement, house, garage and partial attic) done for well under $9000 and they traveled appx 120 miles one way to install and maintain the system. B and B out of Louisville Ky did my home and I got an equal or better quote from Bullitt. B B was able to do the ceiling/glycol system that included the garage (important for animals) and it is a property saving system (more head and not dependent on people/animals getting out of the structure). However, one jerk quoted me a system that, according to him, was the only one that met state requirements, cost appx $40,000.00. Several fire chiefs/assistant fire chiefs used B B and are extremely pleased with the coverage...and so are the insurance companies. All of this is to say, check it out. And check it out with more than one company if you get someone who is being a total jerk. It really may fit in your budget. It certainly makes me sleep a lot easier. The volunteer fire department here is totally wonderful and I support it 110 per cent but there is only so much you can do in a rural area. These systems are becoming more common in metro areas too. Mine is a new build and I could not bare the though of leaving my little ones here alone without protection I could provide. Take what you can use and leave the rest. As for the missing little ones, please try to calm yourself and send out wonderful, strong beams of light to them so them know where to come and be with you. They are confused as are you. And blessings to you and all of them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Fire update blessings. I love that she is still trying to find them. Prayers and head butts to Susan and all her furries. - Original Message - From: MaryChristine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Fire update and lots and lots of paws On 8/11/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears the kitten has been discovered so now down to only 2 missing adults, Please keep all fingers and toes crossed for Susan.. Kelly -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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At 02:18 PM 8/11/2007, you wrote: I live in an area with a well that will not support a sprinkler system so I use intumescent paint ,,,expensive but gives a bit of peace of mind,,Fire is always my big fear, fortunately all my cats have access to the outdoors, enclosure,,,but I live with that fear and so every fire protection thing I can do Kelly A thought to those who are building or remodeling: fire suppression sprinkler systems are available for very reasonable prices. Check it out. And don't be put off by jerks in the business . I have had approximately 6000 square feet (basement, house, garage and partial attic) done for well under $9000 and they traveled appx 120 miles one way to install and maintain the system. B and B out of Louisville Ky did my home and I got an equal or better quote from Bullitt. B B was able to do the ceiling/glycol system that included the garage (important for animals) and it is a property saving system (more head and not dependent on people/animals getting out of the structure). However, one jerk quoted me a system that, according to him, was the only one that met state requirements, cost appx $40,000.00. Several fire chiefs/assistant fire chiefs used B B and are extremely pleased with the coverage...and so are the insurance companies. All of this is to say, check it out. And check it out with more than one company if you get someone who is being a total jerk. It really may fit in your budget. It certainly makes me sleep a lot easier. The volunteer fire department here is totally wonderful and I support it 110 per cent but there is only so much you can do in a rural area. These systems are becoming more common in metro areas too. Mine is a new build and I could not bare the though of leaving my little ones here alone without protection I could provide. Take what you can use and leave the rest. As for the missing little ones, please try to calm yourself and send out wonderful, strong beams of light to them so them know where to come and be with you. They are confused as are you. And blessings to you and all of them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]laurieskatz To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Fire update blessings. I love that she is still trying to find them. Prayers and head butts to Susan and all her furries. - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]MaryChristine To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Fire update and lots and lots of paws On 8/11/07, Kelly L mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears the kitten has been discovered so now down to only 2 missing adults, Please keep all fingers and toes crossed for Susan.. Kelly -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/946 - Release Date: 8/10/2007 3:50 PM
Re: Fire update
What is the paint situation??? I have never heard of this but, if I put out buildings up, it may be useful. I am very lucky here. The fire chief is a friend and able to tell me what size water line I had to put in etc. Don't even ask what it cost but it was well worth it. Please know I am 1/2 mile off the road and we won't go any further than that. I really hope people will explore their options. I traded granite counter tops and /// well you get the idea for safety and security items. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Fire update At 02:18 PM 8/11/2007, you wrote: I live in an area with a well that will not support a sprinkler system so I use intumescent paint ,,,expensive but gives a bit of peace of mind,,Fire is always my big fear, fortunately all my cats have access to the outdoors, enclosure,,,but I live with that fear and so every fire protection thing I can do Kelly A thought to those who are building or remodeling: fire suppression sprinkler systems are available for very reasonable prices. Check it out. And don't be put off by jerks in the business . I have had approximately 6000 square feet (basement, house, garage and partial attic) done for well under $9000 and they traveled appx 120 miles one way to install and maintain the system. B and B out of Louisville Ky did my home and I got an equal or better quote from Bullitt. B B was able to do the ceiling/glycol system that included the garage (important for animals) and it is a property saving system (more head and not dependent on people/animals getting out of the structure). However, one jerk quoted me a system that, according to him, was the only one that met state requirements, cost appx $40,000.00. Several fire chiefs/assistant fire chiefs used B B and are extremely pleased with the coverage...and so are the insurance companies. All of this is to say, check it out. And check it out with more than one company if you get someone who is being a total jerk. It really may fit in your budget. It certainly makes me sleep a lot easier. The volunteer fire department here is totally wonderful and I support it 110 per cent but there is only so much you can do in a rural area. These systems are becoming more common in metro areas too. Mine is a new build and I could not bare the though of leaving my little ones here alone without protection I could provide. Take what you can use and leave the rest. As for the missing little ones, please try to calm yourself and send out wonderful, strong beams of light to them so them know where to come and be with you. They are confused as are you. And blessings to you and all of them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Fire update blessings. I love that she is still trying to find them. Prayers and head butts to Susan and all her furries. - Original Message - From: MaryChristine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Fire update and lots and lots of paws On 8/11/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears the kitten has been discovered so now down to only 2 missing adults, Please keep all fingers and toes crossed for Susan.. Kelly -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/946 - Release Date: 8/10/2007 3:50 PM
Re: Fire update
At 05:15 PM 8/11/2007, you wrote: It is called intumescent paint and it pretty fire proof, I ordered mine out of Canada,..you can have it tinted or use it as a base coat,,,I did much research,,,years,,,It is expensive, I did my kitchen on the inside,,,just google fireproof paint,, It is a start,, I will try to find where I got mine but it has ben about 2 years nowIt has to be put on so many millimeters thick to be effective..As I said I did the entire interior kitchen ,,lest someone start a kitchen fire which is mu big concern Kelly What is the paint situation??? I have never heard of this but, if I put out buildings up, it may be useful. I am very lucky here. The fire chief is a friend and able to tell me what size water line I had to put in etc. Don't even ask what it cost but it was well worth it. Please know I am 1/2 mile off the road and we won't go any further than that. I really hope people will explore their options. I traded granite counter tops and /// well you get the idea for safety and security items. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kelly L To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Fire update At 02:18 PM 8/11/2007, you wrote: I live in an area with a well that will not support a sprinkler system so I use intumescent paint ,,,expensive but gives a bit of peace of mind,,Fire is always my big fear, fortunately all my cats have access to the outdoors, enclosure,,,but I live with that fear and so every fire protection thing I can do Kelly A thought to those who are building or remodeling: fire suppression sprinkler systems are available for very reasonable prices. Check it out. And don't be put off by jerks in the business . I have had approximately 6000 square feet (basement, house, garage and partial attic) done for well under $9000 and they traveled appx 120 miles one way to install and maintain the system. B and B out of Louisville Ky did my home and I got an equal or better quote from Bullitt. B B was able to do the ceiling/glycol system that included the garage (important for animals) and it is a property saving system (more head and not dependent on people/animals getting out of the structure). However, one jerk quoted me a system that, according to him, was the only one that met state requirements, cost appx $40,000.00. Several fire chiefs/assistant fire chiefs used B B and are extremely pleased with the coverage...and so are the insurance companies. All of this is to say, check it out. And check it out with more than one company if you get someone who is being a total jerk. It really may fit in your budget. It certainly makes me sleep a lot easier. The volunteer fire department here is totally wonderful and I support it 110 per cent but there is only so much you can do in a rural area. These systems are becoming more common in metro areas too. Mine is a new build and I could not bare the though of leaving my little ones here alone without protection I could provide. Take what you can use and leave the rest. As for the missing little ones, please try to calm yourself and send out wonderful, strong beams of light to them so them know where to come and be with you. They are confused as are you. And blessings to you and all of them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]laurieskatz To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Fire update blessings. I love that she is still trying to find them. Prayers and head butts to Susan and all her furries. - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]MaryChristine To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Fire update and lots and lots of paws On 8/11/07, Kelly L mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears the kitten has been discovered so now down to only 2 missing adults, Please keep all fingers and toes crossed for Susan.. Kelly -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine
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Yup! Ours are STILL crossed! Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Aug 11, 2007, at 2:22 PM, MaryChristine wrote: and lots and lots of paws On 8/11/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears the kitten has been discovered so now down to only 2 missing adults, Please keep all fingers and toes crossed for Susan.. Kelly -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Marilyn, you smart cookie, or should I say, you smart kitty treat, you are SO RIGHT! One of the cheapest things you can do to avert a major fire tragedy is to install sprinklers. Losing everything and everyone is much more painful. Also, if you are retrofitting an already built house it will cost more but if you're lucky enough to live in a ranch not that much more. Thanks for the excellent tips--I'm keeping them in mind. And, now that I think of it, sprinklers should work out much better than ADT-- which scares me and my mom straight up in the air when it goes off-- for instance, when a spider walks into one of the smoke detectors-- they're so spider-cozy. Waking up to a faceful of cold water would be much less alarming--and won't scare the kitties to death, either! Tee Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Aug 11, 2007, at 4:18 PM, Marylyn wrote: A thought to those who are building or remodeling: fire suppression sprinkler systems are available for very reasonable prices. Check it out. And don't be put off by jerks in the business . I have had approximately 6000 square feet (basement, house, garage and partial attic) done for well under $9000 and they traveled appx 120 miles one way to install and maintain the system. B and B out of Louisville Ky did my home and I got an equal or better quote from Bullitt. B B was able to do the ceiling/glycol system that included the garage (important for animals) and it is a property saving system (more head and not dependent on people/animals getting out of the structure). However, one jerk quoted me a system that, according to him, was the only one that met state requirements, cost appx $40,000.00. Several fire chiefs/assistant fire chiefs used B B and are extremely pleased with the coverage...and so are the insurance companies. All of this is to say, check it out. And check it out with more than one company if you get someone who is being a total jerk. It really may fit in your budget. It certainly makes me sleep a lot easier. The volunteer fire department here is totally wonderful and I support it 110 per cent but there is only so much you can do in a rural area. These systems are becoming more common in metro areas too. Mine is a new build and I could not bare the though of leaving my little ones here alone without protection I could provide. Take what you can use and leave the rest. As for the missing little ones, please try to calm yourself and send out wonderful, strong beams of light to them so them know where to come and be with you. They are confused as are you. And blessings to you and all of them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Fire update blessings. I love that she is still trying to find them. Prayers and head butts to Susan and all her furries. - Original Message - From: MaryChristine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Fire update and lots and lots of paws On 8/11/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears the kitten has been discovered so now down to only 2 missing adults, Please keep all fingers and toes crossed for Susan.. Kelly -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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I think that a sprinkler system for granite counter tops is a very fair trade. Besides, think of all those wine glasses you won't break! Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Aug 11, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Marylyn wrote: What is the paint situation??? I have never heard of this but, if I put out buildings up, it may be useful. I am very lucky here. The fire chief is a friend and able to tell me what size water line I had to put in etc. Don't even ask what it cost but it was well worth it. Please know I am 1/2 mile off the road and we won't go any further than that. I really hope people will explore their options. I traded granite counter tops and /// well you get the idea for safety and security items. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Fire update At 02:18 PM 8/11/2007, you wrote: I live in an area with a well that will not support a sprinkler system so I use intumescent paint ,,,expensive but gives a bit of peace of mind,,Fire is always my big fear, fortunately all my cats have access to the outdoors, enclosure,,,but I live with that fear and so every fire protection thing I can do Kelly A thought to those who are building or remodeling: fire suppression sprinkler systems are available for very reasonable prices. Check it out. And don't be put off by jerks in the business . I have had approximately 6000 square feet (basement, house, garage and partial attic) done for well under $9000 and they traveled appx 120 miles one way to install and maintain the system. B and B out of Louisville Ky did my home and I got an equal or better quote from Bullitt. B B was able to do the ceiling/glycol system that included the garage (important for animals) and it is a property saving system (more head and not dependent on people/animals getting out of the structure). However, one jerk quoted me a system that, according to him, was the only one that met state requirements, cost appx $40,000.00. Several fire chiefs/assistant fire chiefs used B B and are extremely pleased with the coverage...and so are the insurance companies. All of this is to say, check it out. And check it out with more than one company if you get someone who is being a total jerk. It really may fit in your budget. It certainly makes me sleep a lot easier. The volunteer fire department here is totally wonderful and I support it 110 per cent but there is only so much you can do in a rural area. These systems are becoming more common in metro areas too. Mine is a new build and I could not bare the though of leaving my little ones here alone without protection I could provide. Take what you can use and leave the rest. As for the missing little ones, please try to calm yourself and send out wonderful, strong beams of light to them so them know where to come and be with you. They are confused as are you. And blessings to you and all of them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Fire update blessings. I love that she is still trying to find them. Prayers and head butts to Susan and all her furries. - Original Message - From: MaryChristine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Fire update and lots and lots of paws On 8/11/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears the kitten has been discovered so now down to only 2 missing adults, Please keep all fingers and toes crossed for Susan.. Kelly -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/946 - Release Date: 8/10/2007 3:50 PM
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Cool! Thanks! Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Aug 11, 2007, at 7:47 PM, Kelly L wrote: At 05:15 PM 8/11/2007, you wrote: It is called intumescent paint and it pretty fire proof, I ordered mine out of Canada,..you can have it tinted or use it as a base coat,,,I did much research,,,years,,,It is expensive, I did my kitchen on the inside,,,just google fireproof paint,, It is a start,, I will try to find where I got mine but it has ben about 2 years nowIt has to be put on so many millimeters thick to be effective..As I said I did the entire interior kitchen ,,lest someone start a kitchen fire which is mu big concern Kelly What is the paint situation??? I have never heard of this but, if I put out buildings up, it may be useful. I am very lucky here. The fire chief is a friend and able to tell me what size water line I had to put in etc. Don't even ask what it cost but it was well worth it. Please know I am 1/2 mile off the road and we won't go any further than that. I really hope people will explore their options. I traded granite counter tops and /// well you get the idea for safety and security items. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Fire update At 02:18 PM 8/11/2007, you wrote: I live in an area with a well that will not support a sprinkler system so I use intumescent paint ,,,expensive but gives a bit of peace of mind,,Fire is always my big fear, fortunately all my cats have access to the outdoors, enclosure,,,but I live with that fear and so every fire protection thing I can do Kelly A thought to those who are building or remodeling: fire suppression sprinkler systems are available for very reasonable prices. Check it out. And don't be put off by jerks in the business . I have had approximately 6000 square feet (basement, house, garage and partial attic) done for well under $9000 and they traveled appx 120 miles one way to install and maintain the system. B and B out of Louisville Ky did my home and I got an equal or better quote from Bullitt. B B was able to do the ceiling/glycol system that included the garage (important for animals) and it is a property saving system (more head and not dependent on people/animals getting out of the structure). However, one jerk quoted me a system that, according to him, was the only one that met state requirements, cost appx $40,000.00. Several fire chiefs/assistant fire chiefs used B B and are extremely pleased with the coverage...and so are the insurance companies. All of this is to say, check it out. And check it out with more than one company if you get someone who is being a total jerk. It really may fit in your budget. It certainly makes me sleep a lot easier. The volunteer fire department here is totally wonderful and I support it 110 per cent but there is only so much you can do in a rural area. These systems are becoming more common in metro areas too. Mine is a new build and I could not bare the though of leaving my little ones here alone without protection I could provide. Take what you can use and leave the rest. As for the missing little ones, please try to calm yourself and send out wonderful, strong beams of light to them so them know where to come and be with you. They are confused as are you. And blessings to you and all of them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Fire update blessings. I love that she is still trying to find them. Prayers and head butts to Susan and all her furries. - Original Message - From: MaryChristine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Fire update and lots and lots of paws On 8/11/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears the kitten has been discovered so now down to only 2 missing adults, Please keep all fingers and toes crossed for Susan.. Kelly -- Spay Neuter Your
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Just set up a photobucket account with photos of (a) fire damage, (b) missing cats and (c) adoptables in foster care. PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY. The link is http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/susan4233/ I will gather more photos as I can but I want to start circulating what I have. Need adoption assistance with cats in foster care. Need good trapping vibes for the ones who are still missing. Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far there are now only 5 cats she has not found as yet,,Susan's really big need is for fosters who can assist with adoptions and anyone knowing of animal friendly rentals between Vallejo and San Francisco,,she said she could go up to 1500 per month,, If you can't reach her you can contact me also p.m. and I will reach her, thanks Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Susan, all I can really help you with is the vibes, I'm afraid, but I'm sending them big time! What a blessing that nobody (and nokitty) was killed or hurt. Here's hoping the missing ones find their way to your traps today! Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FIRE! Just set up a photobucket account with photos of (a) fire damage, (b) missing cats and (c) adoptables in foster care. PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY. The link is http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/susan4233/ I will gather more photos as I can but I want to start circulating what I have. Need adoption assistance with cats in foster care. Need good trapping vibes for the ones who are still missing. Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far there are now only 5 cats she has not found as yet,,Susan's really big need is for fosters who can assist with adoptions and anyone knowing of animal friendly rentals between Vallejo and San Francisco,,she said she could go up to 1500 per month,, If you can't reach her you can contact me also p.m. and I will reach her, thanks Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
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Susan, Are you getting responses from others? I have sent all the info regarding your situation to many other groups and private people. As I have forwarded your latest to them as well. Wish I was closer I would help you locate your missing kitties. You remain in my thoughts and prayers! Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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Susan, What is the story for Bailey and Johnny? Are they Felv postive? Ages? Thanks! Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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Susan, I have crossposted to the hyperT group. I can also send to my cousin in L.A. who knows people, but she's out of town until the middle of this month. I am so, so sorry this has happened to you, but so, so happy that none of your kitties were killed in the fire. I have a dumb question: are the five lost cats just lost/hiding in the house in the rubble or are they outside somewhere? Also, are all your personal cats accounted for or are some of them part of the missing five? Sending good vibes your way to find those lost kitties and that you find a place soon to rent until you're able to get settled again. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 11:03:14 AM Subject: Re: FIRE! Just set up a photobucket account with photos of (a) fire damage, (b) missing cats and (c) adoptables in foster care. PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY. The link is http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/susan4233/ I will gather more photos as I can but I want to start circulating what I have. Need adoption assistance with cats in foster care. Need good trapping vibes for the ones who are still missing. Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far there are now only 5 cats she has not found as yet,,Susan's really big need is for fosters who can assist with adoptions and anyone knowing of animal friendly rentals between Vallejo and San Francisco,,she said she could go up to 1500 per month,, If you can't reach her you can contact me also p.m. and I will reach her, thanks Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
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Susan, There are many of us who cant' help you from a distance with foster homes, adoptions, etc. We can and want to help with material items, kitty items, etc. Surely you need litter boxes, scoops, bowls, something...so we can at least delude ourselves into thinking we are helping. On 8/7/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just set up a photobucket account with photos of (a) fire damage, (b) missing cats and (c) adoptables in foster care. PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY. The link is http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/susan4233/ I will gather more photos as I can but I want to start circulating what I have. Need adoption assistance with cats in foster care. Need good trapping vibes for the ones who are still missing. Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far there are now only 5 cats she has not found as yet,,Susan's really big need is for fosters who can assist with adoptions and anyone knowing of animal friendly rentals between Vallejo and San Francisco,,she said she could go up to 1500 per month,, If you can't reach her you can contact me also p.m. and I will reach her, thanks Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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Once we find permanent housing we will definitely need litter pans, cat toys, scoops, etc. (Cat trees -- my three are absolutely ruined) My traps and carriers melted in the fire. But until we find a decent sized rental we're functioning with one giant litterbox (3 ft x 20 inches or so.) Petco, Petsmart, etc. giftcards wil come in handy too. Thanks everyone. (If anyone wants to play the lottery, try the date of the fire (08/04/07) and my birthdate (12/23/60) in combination. I'm going to do the same. I'm feeling pretty lucky. Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, There are many of us who cant' help you from a distance with foster homes, adoptions, etc. We can and want to help with material items, kitty items, etc. Surely you need litter boxes, scoops, bowls, something...so we can at least delude ourselves into thinking we are helping. On 8/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote: Just set up a photobucket account with photos of (a) fire damage, (b) missing cats and (c) adoptables in foster care. PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY. The link is http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/susan4233/ I will gather more photos as I can but I want to start circulating what I have. Need adoption assistance with cats in foster care. Need good trapping vibes for the ones who are still missing. Kelly L wrote: So far there are now only 5 cats she has not found as yet,,Susan's really big need is for fosters who can assist with adoptions and anyone knowing of animal friendly rentals between Vallejo and San Francisco,,she said she could go up to 1500 per month,, If you can't reach her you can contact me also p.m. and I will reach her, thanks Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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Once we find permanent housing we will definitely need litter pans, cat toys, scoops, etc. (Cat trees -- my three are absolutely ruined) My traps and carriers melted in the fire. But until we find a decent sized rental we're functioning with one giant litterbox (3 ft x 20 inches or so.) Petco, Petsmart, etc. giftcards wil come in handy too. Thanks everyone. (If anyone wants to play the lottery, try the date of the fire (08/04/07) and my birthdate (12/23/60) in combination. I'm going to do the same. I'm feeling pretty lucky. Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, There are many of us who cant' help you from a distance with foster homes, adoptions, etc. We can and want to help with material items, kitty items, etc. Surely you need litter boxes, scoops, bowls, something...so we can at least delude ourselves into thinking we are helping. On 8/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote: Just set up a photobucket account with photos of (a) fire damage, (b) missing cats and (c) adoptables in foster care. PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY. The link is http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/susan4233/ I will gather more photos as I can but I want to start circulating what I have. Need adoption assistance with cats in foster care. Need good trapping vibes for the ones who are still missing. Kelly L wrote: So far there are now only 5 cats she has not found as yet,,Susan's really big need is for fosters who can assist with adoptions and anyone knowing of animal friendly rentals between Vallejo and San Francisco,,she said she could go up to 1500 per month,, If you can't reach her you can contact me also p.m. and I will reach her, thanks Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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Two of the missing cats -- Buddy and Lil Mister -- are my personal cats, two former feral brothers. (I have their sister YoYo with me right now.) Buddy has been seen inside since the fire but he is really freaked, reverted to feral. Lil Mister has not. Sugar is in the house, also a former feral, and she's pretty smug about not going into those traps we've set. Gustine (also known as Yard Fodder) is a VERY feral lynxpoint siamese girl, a foster, and she has been seen after the fire inside the house. Tuffy is a sweet fearful former feral foster girl, a little tabby. Have not seen her. Widget is a very shy all black kitten, maybe 4 months old. Have not seen her. (She's the only one of the kittens still missing.) There are still 3 outside feral cats, all of whom have been seen. We have traps set inside and out. Going back with a drop trap in a few days to get the outside cats. Planning on camping out there overnight soon to try to get the remaining inside cats. The general consensus is that they are hiding inside the house and, after trapping Rooster overnight and Tanner yesterday, and finding Ember hiding in the burned out basement, I suspect they are all still inside. If I keep going back and keep baiting those traps, eventually I should be able to get them all. No one has been found dead so I have to assume they are alive and in there somewhere. wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, I have crossposted to the hyperT group. I can also send to my cousin in L.A. who knows people, but she's out of town until the middle of this month. I am so, so sorry this has happened to you, but so, so happy that none of your kitties were killed in the fire. I have a dumb question: are the five lost cats just lost/hiding in the house in the rubble or are they outside somewhere? Also, are all your personal cats accounted for or are some of them part of the missing five? Sending good vibes your way to find those lost kitties and that you find a place soon to rent until you're able to get settled again. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 11:03:14 AM Subject: Re: FIRE! Just set up a photobucket account with photos of (a) fire damage, (b) missing cats and (c) adoptables in foster care. PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY. The link is http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/susan4233/ I will gather more photos as I can but I want to start circulating what I have. Need adoption assistance with cats in foster care. Need good trapping vibes for the ones who are still missing. Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far there are now only 5 cats she has not found as yet,,Susan's really big need is for fosters who can assist with adoptions and anyone knowing of animal friendly rentals between Vallejo and San Francisco,,she said she could go up to 1500 per month,, If you can't reach her you can contact me also p.m. and I will reach her, thanks Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
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Thank God, Susan, all but a few have been seen alive. Prayers going out for you to find all 9 (?) of these furbabies. Too bad the electrical isn't working or you could plug in some Feliway...lol. I can't imagine what these kitties are thinking right now, but I know it's good that you are coming around because they know you. Please keep us posted when you are able. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 12:57:40 PM Subject: Re: FIRE! Two of the missing cats -- Buddy and Lil Mister -- are my personal cats, two former feral brothers. (I have their sister YoYo with me right now.) Buddy has been seen inside since the fire but he is really freaked, reverted to feral. Lil Mister has not. Sugar is in the house, also a former feral, and she's pretty smug about not going into those traps we've set. Gustine (also known as Yard Fodder) is a VERY feral lynxpoint siamese girl, a foster, and she has been seen after the fire inside the house. Tuffy is a sweet fearful former feral foster girl, a little tabby. Have not seen her. Widget is a very shy all black kitten, maybe 4 months old. Have not seen her. (She's the only one of the kittens still missing.) There are still 3 outside feral cats, all of whom have been seen. We have traps set inside and out. Going back with a drop trap in a few days to get the outside cats. Planning on camping out there overnight soon to try to get the remaining inside cats. The general consensus is that they are hiding inside the house and, after trapping Rooster overnight and Tanner yesterday, and finding Ember hiding in the burned out basement, I suspect they are all still inside. If I keep going back and keep baiting those traps, eventually I should be able to get them all. No one has been found dead so I have to assume they are alive and in there somewhere. wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, I have crossposted to the hyperT group. I can also send to my cousin in L.A. who knows people, but she's out of town until the middle of this month. I am so, so sorry this has happened to you, but so, so happy that none of your kitties were killed in the fire. I have a dumb question: are the five lost cats just lost/hiding in the house in the rubble or are they outside somewhere? Also, are all your personal cats accounted for or are some of them part of the missing five? Sending good vibes your way to find those lost kitties and that you find a place soon to rent until you're able to get settled again. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 11:03:14 AM Subject: Re: FIRE! Just set up a photobucket account with photos of (a) fire damage, (b) missing cats and (c) adoptables in foster care. PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY. The link is http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/susan4233/ I will gather more photos as I can but I want to start circulating what I have. Need adoption assistance with cats in foster care. Need good trapping vibes for the ones who are still missing. Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far there are now only 5 cats she has not found as yet,,Susan's really big need is for fosters who can assist with adoptions and anyone knowing of animal friendly rentals between Vallejo and San Francisco,,she said she could go up to 1500 per month,, If you can't reach her you can contact me also p.m. and I will reach her, thanks Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
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Susan, I am sorry that some of your kitties are still missing - I wish I were close so that I could help them being reunited with you. It must be such a traumatizing experience for them. but I am sure that all will be found and be reuinted with you soon. When maddie (feral kitty) went on missing at a her new adopted house, I thought I would never found her, but after 5 weeks, search after search, I was finally able to trap her in a drop trap -- I was glad that I never gave up a hope. I will be praying that all of them will be safely back in your care very very soon. Hideyo - Original Message - From: Susan Hoffmanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Re: FIRE! Two of the missing cats -- Buddy and Lil Mister -- are my personal cats, two former feral brothers. (I have their sister YoYo with me right now.) Buddy has been seen inside since the fire but he is really freaked, reverted to feral. Lil Mister has not. Sugar is in the house, also a former feral, and she's pretty smug about not going into those traps we've set. Gustine (also known as Yard Fodder) is a VERY feral lynxpoint siamese girl, a foster, and she has been seen after the fire inside the house. Tuffy is a sweet fearful former feral foster girl, a little tabby. Have not seen her. Widget is a very shy all black kitten, maybe 4 months old. Have not seen her. (She's the only one of the kittens still missing.) There are still 3 outside feral cats, all of whom have been seen. We have traps set inside and out. Going back with a drop trap in a few days to get the outside cats. Planning on camping out there overnight soon to try to get the remaining inside cats. The general consensus is that they are hiding inside the house and, after trapping Rooster overnight and Tanner yesterday, and finding Ember hiding in the burned out basement, I suspect they are all still inside. If I keep going back and keep baiting those traps, eventually I should be able to get them all. No one has been found dead so I have to assume they are alive and in there somewhere. wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, I have crossposted to the hyperT group. I can also send to my cousin in L.A. who knows people, but she's out of town until the middle of this month. I am so, so sorry this has happened to you, but so, so happy that none of your kitties were killed in the fire. I have a dumb question: are the five lost cats just lost/hiding in the house in the rubble or are they outside somewhere? Also, are all your personal cats accounted for or are some of them part of the missing five? Sending good vibes your way to find those lost kitties and that you find a place soon to rent until you're able to get settled again. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 11:03:14 AM Subject: Re: FIRE! Just set up a photobucket account with photos of (a) fire damage, (b) missing cats and (c) adoptables in foster care. PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY. The link is http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/susan4233/http://s207.photobucketcom/albums/bb3/susan4233/ I will gather more photos as I can but I want to start circulating what I have. Need adoption assistance with cats in foster care. Need good trapping vibes for the ones who are still missing. Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far there are now only 5 cats she has not found as yet,,Susan's really big need is for fosters who can assist with adoptions and anyone knowing of animal friendly rentals between Vallejo and San Francisco,,she said she could go up to 1500 per month,, If you can't reach her you can contact me also p.m. and I will reach her, thanks Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48254/*http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/_ylc=X3oDMTI5MGx2aThyBF9TAzIxMTU1MDAzNTIEX3MDMzk2NTQ1MTAzBHNlYwNCQUJwaWxsYXJfTklfMzYwBHNsawNQcm9kdWN0X3F1ZXN0aW9uX3BhZ2U-?link=listsid=396545469from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
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Hi Susan, We went through this 4 yrs ago with our largest foster home. It's really a nightmare. Looking back I can see we did a few things wrong. Beating the bushes and calling their names was the wrong thing to do, esp with the more feral cats. Setting traps is really a better idea. You might pick up tips from catsinthebag.org too. The leftover smell of the fire and smoke might discourage them from coming too close to the house - talk about a bad memory! - so maybe setting traps in neighbor's yards might be helpful. A very few neighbors put food and water out on back porches or near bushes where a frightened cat could sneak in and eat and the neighbor would let us know if that happened so we would then set a trap right there. If your neighbors are helpful, that's half the battle. Those 2 things were important to recognize, in hindsight - the home that now smelled like a nightmare and the calm, calculated drawing in of the cats in the surrounding area. Thinking of you and your cats, Janine --- Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two of the missing cats -- Buddy and Lil Mister -- are my personal cats, two former feral brothers. (I have their sister YoYo with me right now.) Buddy has been seen inside since the fire but he is really freaked, reverted to feral. Lil Mister has not. Sugar is in the house, also a former feral, and she's pretty smug about not going into those traps we've set. Gustine (also known as Yard Fodder) is a VERY feral lynxpoint siamese girl, a foster, and she has been seen after the fire inside the house. Tuffy is a sweet fearful former feral foster girl, a little tabby. Have not seen her. Widget is a very shy all black kitten, maybe 4 months old. Have not seen her. (She's the only one of the kittens still missing.) There are still 3 outside feral cats, all of whom have been seen. We have traps set inside and out. Going back with a drop trap in a few days to get the outside cats. Planning on camping out there overnight soon to try to get the remaining inside cats. The general consensus is that they are hiding inside the house and, after trapping Rooster overnight and Tanner yesterday, and finding Ember hiding in the burned out basement, I suspect they are all still inside. If I keep going back and keep baiting those traps, eventually I should be able to get them all. No one has been found dead so I have to assume they are alive and in there somewhere. wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, I have crossposted to the hyperT group. I can also send to my cousin in L.A. who knows people, but she's out of town until the middle of this month. I am so, so sorry this has happened to you, but so, so happy that none of your kitties were killed in the fire. I have a dumb question: are the five lost cats just lost/hiding in the house in the rubble or are they outside somewhere? Also, are all your personal cats accounted for or are some of them part of the missing five? Sending good vibes your way to find those lost kitties and that you find a place soon to rent until you're able to get settled again. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 11:03:14 AM Subject: Re: FIRE! Just set up a photobucket account with photos of (a) fire damage, (b) missing cats and (c) adoptables in foster care. PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY. The link is http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/susan4233/ I will gather more photos as I can but I want to start circulating what I have. Need adoption assistance with cats in foster care. Need good trapping vibes for the ones who are still missing. Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far there are now only 5 cats she has not found as yet,,Susan's really big need is for fosters who can assist with adoptions and anyone knowing of animal friendly rentals between Vallejo and San Francisco,,she said she could go up to 1500 per month,, If you can't reach her you can contact me also p.m. and I will reach her, thanks Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
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Feliway makes a spray that I like a lot better than the plug in. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: FIRE! Thank God, Susan, all but a few have been seen alive. Prayers going out for you to find all 9 (?) of these furbabies. Too bad the electrical isn't working or you could plug in some Feliway...lol. I can't imagine what these kitties are thinking right now, but I know it's good that you are coming around because they know you. Please keep us posted when you are able. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 12:57:40 PM Subject: Re: FIRE! Two of the missing cats -- Buddy and Lil Mister -- are my personal cats, two former feral brothers. (I have their sister YoYo with me right now.) Buddy has been seen inside since the fire but he is really freaked, reverted to feral. Lil Mister has not. Sugar is in the house, also a former feral, and she's pretty smug about not going into those traps we've set. Gustine (also known as Yard Fodder) is a VERY feral lynxpoint siamese girl, a foster, and she has been seen after the fire inside the house. Tuffy is a sweet fearful former feral foster girl, a little tabby. Have not seen her. Widget is a very shy all black kitten, maybe 4 months old. Have not seen her. (She's the only one of the kittens still missing.) There are still 3 outside feral cats, all of whom have been seen. We have traps set inside and out. Going back with a drop trap in a few days to get the outside cats. Planning on camping out there overnight soon to try to get the remaining inside cats. The general consensus is that they are hiding inside the house and, after trapping Rooster overnight and Tanner yesterday, and finding Ember hiding in the burned out basement, I suspect they are all still inside. If I keep going back and keep baiting those traps, eventually I should be able to get them all. No one has been found dead so I have to assume they are alive and in there somewhere. wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, I have crossposted to the hyperT group. I can also send to my cousin in L.A. who knows people, but she's out of town until the middle of this month. I am so, so sorry this has happened to you, but so, so happy that none of your kitties were killed in the fire. I have a dumb question: are the five lost cats just lost/hiding in the house in the rubble or are they outside somewhere? Also, are all your personal cats accounted for or are some of them part of the missing five? Sending good vibes your way to find those lost kitties and that you find a place soon to rent until you're able to get settled again. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 11:03:14 AM Subject: Re: FIRE! Just set up a photobucket account with photos of (a) fire damage, (b) missing cats and (c) adoptables in foster care. PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY. The link is http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/susan4233/ I will gather more photos as I can but I want to start circulating what I have. Need adoption assistance with cats in foster care. Need good trapping vibes for the ones who are still missing. Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far there are now only 5 cats she has not found as yet,,Susan's really big need is for fosters who can assist with adoptions and anyone knowing of animal friendly rentals between Vallejo and San Francisco,,she said she could go up to 1500 per month,, If you can't reach her you can contact me also p.m. and I will reach her, thanks Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -- Looking for a deal? Find
