Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-15 Thread Ardy Robertson
Well I haven't worried about those things, but I do keep checking Topaz' pads 
of his feet to be sure they are bright pink. I could not go through that again 
- at least for a while. Either I have been very fortunate or FeLV is getting 
more rampant in our area because I have had numerous cats throughout my life 
and other than an occasional accident (back when I let them outside), my cats 
all lived to be around 18 or 19. My Patches lived to be 21, and he was an 
in/out cat his whole life. Then one day he did not return. But he was healthy 
right up until he left. Now my cats are indoor except for Cally who just hates 
it indoors. And she has an insulated little house to go in which is built up on 
a platform and the door is only large enough for her to go through, and it is 
in a garage where the door is always open. Other animals don't seem to dare to 
go in there.
Ardy



-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 3:56 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

I am hoping Josie (Jo Jo) the new kitty gets to be the Guinness Records oldest 
cat someday. By then I too will be old enough to worry about out living the 
next one. Am I the only one who after losing a very special kitty tragically 
young and getting a new one, has little panic attacks that something bad will 
happen to the new one? She, her siblings and her mother all tested negative for 
FELV/FIV, but I find myself looking at her and thinking OMG what if she has a 
heart murmur, what if she has FIP, what if she gets cancer, what if I forget to 
put the toilet seat down and she falls in. Ok, so she is big enough to get out 
of the toilet if she fell in, but what if she bumped her head on the way in! 
Yes, I am actually constantly checking the toilets in the house.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

Check out Rustic Hollow.

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more 
> senior cat. My age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I 
> worry that if my pets outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my 
> kids say they would take them, but my daughter is more of a dog 
> person, and her hubby is very allergic to cats. And my son loves cats, 
> but is gone all the time traveling – I just don’t think either would be an 
> ideal situation.
>
>
>
> Ardy
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Margo
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
>
> Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all.
> ANY cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't 
> place the young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that 
> much more quickly. It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her.
>
> Good luck :)
>
> Margo
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
>
> Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar 
> to Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting 
> blockages.  I know I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well 
> as some friends that do rescue by admitting they are young kitties and 
> not old. I do feel a lot of guilt because I don't want any kitty to 
> not have a home, but in the end it needs to be my decision and I have 
> thought about the pros and cons a great deal. I wish I could save them 
> all.  I am praying my new kitty will get used to riding in the car and 
> will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker actually loved 
> riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to follow me 
> to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I did 
> take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively 
> content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin 
> with a huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have 
> the pet tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I 
> never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a 
> sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone 
> with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want my new 
> kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to make 
> this happen. I also hope to get her used to bru

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-14 Thread dlgegg
Thee are some of the same worries a mother has about her child.  You should be 
concerned and take steps to control what you can, BUT do not let it control 
your life.  Things happen and when they do, you deal with them, just do not 
panic. NO< you are not the only one but you can't let the worry paralyze you so 
you drive yourself and them crazy.  After all, your worries transfer to others 
in your life.  Just give yourself time to deal with this.  Yo have lost someone 
near and dear to you so it is natural to worry about others arond you for a 
while.  It will get better as time goes by, believe me after losing a lot of my 
babies, I know it will get better, never goes away, just geets easier to deal 
with.


 Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote: 
> I am hoping Josie (Jo Jo) the new kitty gets to be the Guinness Records
oldest cat someday. By then I too will be old enough to worry about out
living the next one. Am I the only one who after losing a very special kitty
tragically young and getting a new one, has little panic attacks that
something bad will happen to the new one? She, her siblings and her mother
all tested negative for FELV/FIV, but I find myself looking at her and
thinking OMG what if she has a heart murmur, what if she has FIP, what if
she gets cancer, what if I forget to put the toilet seat down and she falls
in. Ok, so she is big enough to get out of the toilet if she fell in, but
what if she bumped her head on the way in! Yes, I am actually constantly
checking the toilets in the house.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

Check out Rustic Hollow.

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more senior
> cat. My age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I worry that if
> my pets outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my kids say they
> would take them, but my daughter is more of a dog person, and her hubby is
> very allergic to cats. And my son loves cats, but is gone all the time
> traveling – I just don’t think either would be an ideal situation.
>
>
>
> Ardy
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of Margo
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
>
> Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all.
> ANY cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't place
> the young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that much more
> quickly. It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her.
>
> Good luck :)
>
> Margo
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
>
> Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to
> Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages.  I
> know I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends
> that do rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel
> a lot of guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in
> the end it needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and
> cons a great deal. I wish I could save them all.  I am praying my new
> kitty will get used to riding in the car and will take her to work to get
> her used to it. Tucker actually loved riding in the car, when he was
> homeless at work he used to follow me to my car and put his paws up on the
> door ledge to get in. When I did take him home he snuggled right in the
> crate and looked positively content. I took him to the mountains on
> vacation. We had a nice cabin with a huge screened porch so he could watch
> the wildlife. I also have the pet tracking gps collar he had to wear on
> vacation just in case. I never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I
> had her with a sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't
> trust anyone with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want
> my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to
> make this happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every
> night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play together
> like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in love with her
> antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate cats even
> more, and even fall in love with her.  I meet them tomorrow and hope I
> feel something when I do. I desperately 

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-14 Thread Rachel Dagner
I am hoping Josie (Jo Jo) the new kitty gets to be the Guinness Records
oldest cat someday. By then I too will be old enough to worry about out
living the next one. Am I the only one who after losing a very special kitty
tragically young and getting a new one, has little panic attacks that
something bad will happen to the new one? She, her siblings and her mother
all tested negative for FELV/FIV, but I find myself looking at her and
thinking OMG what if she has a heart murmur, what if she has FIP, what if
she gets cancer, what if I forget to put the toilet seat down and she falls
in. Ok, so she is big enough to get out of the toilet if she fell in, but
what if she bumped her head on the way in! Yes, I am actually constantly
checking the toilets in the house.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

Check out Rustic Hollow.

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more senior
> cat. My age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I worry that if
> my pets outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my kids say they
> would take them, but my daughter is more of a dog person, and her hubby is
> very allergic to cats. And my son loves cats, but is gone all the time
> traveling – I just don’t think either would be an ideal situation.
>
>
>
> Ardy
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of Margo
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
>
> Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all.
> ANY cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't place
> the young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that much more
> quickly. It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her.
>
> Good luck :)
>
> Margo
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
>
> Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to
> Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages.  I
> know I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends
> that do rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel
> a lot of guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in
> the end it needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and
> cons a great deal. I wish I could save them all.  I am praying my new
> kitty will get used to riding in the car and will take her to work to get
> her used to it. Tucker actually loved riding in the car, when he was
> homeless at work he used to follow me to my car and put his paws up on the
> door ledge to get in. When I did take him home he snuggled right in the
> crate and looked positively content. I took him to the mountains on
> vacation. We had a nice cabin with a huge screened porch so he could watch
> the wildlife. I also have the pet tracking gps collar he had to wear on
> vacation just in case. I never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I
> had her with a sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't
> trust anyone with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want
> my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to
> make this happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every
> night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play together
> like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in love with her
> antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate cats even
> more, and even fall in love with her.  I meet them tomorrow and hope I
> feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching
> emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a
> shelter again. Even if I  die my family would never let that happen. It
> makes me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it
> "inconvenient" for whatever reason.  They give up their animal yet end up
> getting another one later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I
> hope everyone still likes me even though I am looking at young kitties
> after all they need a good home and life too and one will have that with
> me for all of her days.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net
> <mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote:
>
> Rache

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-14 Thread dlgegg
When someone passed and the problem of what to do with cats came up, I starred 
searching.  I have no relatives or friends I wold want to leave my babies to, 
not that they would be mistreated, but for the same reason you expressed.  
Intentions are good, but the reality of daily care and expense can ruin the 
best of intentions.  That is why I chose Rustic Hollow.  They are no kill and 
will keep them for the rest of their days.  They will not be in cages, but 
allowed to roam free in their house and a caged outdoor area to roam in.  


 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote: 
> I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more senior cat. 
> My age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I worry that if my pets 
> outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my kids say they would take 
> them, but my daughter is more of a dog person, and her hubby is very allergic 
> to cats. And my son loves cats, but is gone all the time traveling – I just 
> don’t think either would be an ideal situation.
> 
>  
> 
> Ardy
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all. ANY 
> cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't place  the 
> young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that much more quickly. 
> It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her. 
> 
> Good luck :)
> 
> Margo
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Rachel Dagner 
> Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>  
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to 
> Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages.  I know 
> I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do 
> rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of 
> guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it 
> needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great 
> deal. I wish I could save them all.  I am praying my new kitty will get used 
> to riding in the car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker 
> actually loved riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to 
> follow me to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I 
> did take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively 
> content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a 
> huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet 
> tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I never left 
> Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a sitter, where I go they 
> go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone with my animals except my mom and 
> she lives in Texas. I want my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and 
> will work very hard to make this happen. I also hope to get her used to 
> brushing her teeth every night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy 
> will play together like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in 
> love with her antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate 
> cats even more, and even fall in love with her.  I meet them tomorrow and 
> hope I feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching 
> emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a 
> shelter again. Even if I  die my family would never let that happen. It makes 
> me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it "inconvenient" for 
> whatever reason.  They give up their animal yet end up getting another one 
> later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope everyone still 
> likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all they need a good 
> home and life too and one will have that with me for all of her days. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net 
> <mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote:
> 
> Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had 
> after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in 
> PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very 
> similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow 
> is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I 
>

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-14 Thread dlgegg
Check out Rustic Hollow.

 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote: 
> I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more senior cat. 
> My age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I worry that if my pets 
> outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my kids say they would take 
> them, but my daughter is more of a dog person, and her hubby is very allergic 
> to cats. And my son loves cats, but is gone all the time traveling – I just 
> don’t think either would be an ideal situation.
> 
>  
> 
> Ardy
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all. ANY 
> cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't place  the 
> young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that much more quickly. 
> It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her. 
> 
> Good luck :)
> 
> Margo
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Rachel Dagner 
> Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>  
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to 
> Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages.  I know 
> I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do 
> rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of 
> guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it 
> needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great 
> deal. I wish I could save them all.  I am praying my new kitty will get used 
> to riding in the car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker 
> actually loved riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to 
> follow me to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I 
> did take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively 
> content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a 
> huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet 
> tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I never left 
> Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a sitter, where I go they 
> go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone with my animals except my mom and 
> she lives in Texas. I want my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and 
> will work very hard to make this happen. I also hope to get her used to 
> brushing her teeth every night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy 
> will play together like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in 
> love with her antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate 
> cats even more, and even fall in love with her.  I meet them tomorrow and 
> hope I feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching 
> emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a 
> shelter again. Even if I  die my family would never let that happen. It makes 
> me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it "inconvenient" for 
> whatever reason.  They give up their animal yet end up getting another one 
> later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope everyone still 
> likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all they need a good 
> home and life too and one will have that with me for all of her days. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net 
> <mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote:
> 
> Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had 
> after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in 
> PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very 
> similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow 
> is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I 
> even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out 
> of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with 
> bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another 
> kitty…….Ardy
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-13 Thread Ardy Robertson
I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more senior cat. My 
age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I worry that if my pets 
outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my kids say they would take them, 
but my daughter is more of a dog person, and her hubby is very allergic to 
cats. And my son loves cats, but is gone all the time traveling – I just don’t 
think either would be an ideal situation.

 

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

 


Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all. ANY 
cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't place  the young 
ones the less adoptables would be out of time that much more quickly. It's hard 
to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her. 

Good luck :)

Margo

-Original Message- 
From: Rachel Dagner 
Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker 




Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to Tucker. 
I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages.  I know I will 
disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do rescue by 
admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of guilt because 
I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it needs to be my 
decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great deal. I wish I 
could save them all.  I am praying my new kitty will get used to riding in the 
car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker actually loved 
riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to follow me to my car 
and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I did take him home he 
snuggled right in the crate and looked positively content. I took him to the 
mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a huge screened porch so he 
could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet tracking gps collar he had to 
wear on vacation just in case. I never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years 
I had her with a sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't trust 
anyone with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want my new 
kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to make this 
happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every night just like 
Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play together like she and Tucker 
did. I hope that Harry will fall in love with her antics and cuteness like he 
did Tucker and come to appreciate cats even more, and even fall in love with 
her.  I meet them tomorrow and hope I feel something when I do. I desperately 
need to heal from this aching emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my 
kitty will never see a shelter again. Even if I  die my family would never let 
that happen. It makes me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it 
"inconvenient" for whatever reason.  They give up their animal yet end up 
getting another one later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope 
everyone still likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all 
they need a good home and life too and one will have that with me for all of 
her days. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net 
<mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote:

Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had after 
Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in PetSmart 
– I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very similar to 
Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow is comforting 
– even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I even had GUILT 
about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out of that glass 
enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with bringing one home. 
You will know if it is okay to help out another kitty…….Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

 

I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know if 
it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my appetite 
is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein shakes. My eyes 
are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune of looking at me, 
or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to 
the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box 
of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there 

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-12 Thread Margo
Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all. ANY cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't place  the young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that much more quickly. It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her. Good luck :)Margo-Original Message-
From: Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com>
Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages.  I know I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great deal. I wish I could save them all.  I am praying my new kitty will get used to riding in the car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker actually loved riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to follow me to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I did take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to make this happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play together like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in love with her antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate cats even more, and even fall in love with her.  I meet them tomorrow and hope I feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a shelter again. Even if I  die my family would never let that happen. It makes me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it "inconvenient" for whatever reason.  They give up their animal yet end up getting another one later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope everyone still likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all they need a good home and life too and one will have that with me for all of her days. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:<zzz!--[if gte="" mso="" 9]="">

<zzz![endif]--><zzz!--[if gte="" mso="" 9]="">


<zzz![endif]-->Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another kitty…….Ardy  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel DagnerSent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss him.  I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal with it, because that is what you do.  I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday t

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker and Kittens...

2016-06-12 Thread dlgegg
You must have my Harley, at 4 years, he still acts like a kitten and he has an 
attitude.  There are days I swear I could kill him, he wants what he wants and 
will not take no for an answer.  But then he jumps on my lap, rolls over on his 
back and grins at me, What are you going to do?

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> Rachel:
> While I would like, of course, to see more people take the animals that 
> are harder to place, you are hardly to be critiqued for giving a needy 
> animal(s) a home.   I wouldn't take Kittens at my age ( 64) simply 
> because there is a good chance that I would not outlive them ( with 
> current health concerns) and I don't have anyone to leave them with when 
> I go...  It KILLS me when I see animals that lived in a home for most of 
> their lives brought to our shelter at age 14 or older because the owner 
> passed away or became too infirm to take care of them any more.  Worse 
> still when someone finds out ,after having the animal 10 years that they 
> are " allergic " ( but I won't start on that one)  Enjoy 
> themthey add such energy to a household!!
> My one 9 month old still acts as though he is 6 weeks old and I VERY 
> much wish he weighed the same todayHe'd wreck the place if I didn't 
> keep an eye on him constantly
> 
> 
> Bob


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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker and Kittens...

2016-06-11 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL

Rachel:
While I would like, of course, to see more people take the animals that 
are harder to place, you are hardly to be critiqued for giving a needy 
animal(s) a home.   I wouldn't take Kittens at my age ( 64) simply 
because there is a good chance that I would not outlive them ( with 
current health concerns) and I don't have anyone to leave them with when 
I go...  It KILLS me when I see animals that lived in a home for most of 
their lives brought to our shelter at age 14 or older because the owner 
passed away or became too infirm to take care of them any more.  Worse 
still when someone finds out ,after having the animal 10 years that they 
are " allergic " ( but I won't start on that one)  Enjoy 
themthey add such energy to a household!!
My one 9 month old still acts as though he is 6 weeks old and I VERY 
much wish he weighed the same todayHe'd wreck the place if I didn't 
keep an eye on him constantly



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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-11 Thread dlgegg
AMEN!


 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
> Rachel my dear. You do not disappoint. Kittens need homes too. I have been 
> rescuing for years and years, and every once in a while I too decide it’s 
> time for a kitten. They perk up the whole household and it is a very 
> different experience than with an older cat. But seriously, it’s like picking 
> your favourite flower. They’re all beautiful, all have amazing unique 
> qualities, and all bring beauty and happiness into your life. You will be 
> smitten when you meet them, I am sure.
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: June-11-16 9:45 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
> 
> Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to 
> Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages.  I know 
> I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do 
> rescue by admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of 
> guilt because I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it 
> needs to be my decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great 
> deal. I wish I could save them all.  I am praying my new kitty will get used 
> to riding in the car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker 
> actually loved riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to 
> follow me to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I 
> did take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively 
> content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a 
> huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet 
> tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I never left 
> Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a sitter, where I go they 
> go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone with my animals except my mom and 
> she lives in Texas. I want my new kitty to travel too if at all possible and 
> will work very hard to make this happen. I also hope to get her used to 
> brushing her teeth every night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy 
> will play together like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in 
> love with her antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and come to appreciate 
> cats even more, and even fall in love with her.  I meet them tomorrow and 
> hope I feel something when I do. I desperately need to heal from this aching 
> emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my kitty will never see a 
> shelter again. Even if I  die my family would never let that happen. It makes 
> me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it "inconvenient" for 
> whatever reason.  They give up their animal yet end up getting another one 
> later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope everyone still 
> likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all they need a good 
> home and life too and one will have that with me for all of her days.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson 
> <ar...@centurytel.net<mailto:ar...@centurytel.net>> wrote:
> Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had 
> after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in 
> PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very 
> similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow 
> is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I 
> even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out 
> of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with 
> bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another 
> kitty…….Ardy
> 
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
> 
> I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know 
> if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my 
> appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein 
> shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune 
> of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried 
> all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed 
> with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. 
> I laid there with him and went through my pictures aga

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-11 Thread Amani Oakley
Rachel my dear. You do not disappoint. Kittens need homes too. I have been 
rescuing for years and years, and every once in a while I too decide it’s time 
for a kitten. They perk up the whole household and it is a very different 
experience than with an older cat. But seriously, it’s like picking your 
favourite flower. They’re all beautiful, all have amazing unique qualities, and 
all bring beauty and happiness into your life. You will be smitten when you 
meet them, I am sure.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: June-11-16 9:45 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to Tucker. 
I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages.  I know I will 
disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do rescue by 
admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of guilt because 
I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it needs to be my 
decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great deal. I wish I 
could save them all.  I am praying my new kitty will get used to riding in the 
car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker actually loved 
riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to follow me to my car 
and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I did take him home he 
snuggled right in the crate and looked positively content. I took him to the 
mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a huge screened porch so he 
could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet tracking gps collar he had to 
wear on vacation just in case. I never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years 
I had her with a sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't trust 
anyone with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want my new 
kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to make this 
happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every night just like 
Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play together like she and Tucker 
did. I hope that Harry will fall in love with her antics and cuteness like he 
did Tucker and come to appreciate cats even more, and even fall in love with 
her.  I meet them tomorrow and hope I feel something when I do. I desperately 
need to heal from this aching emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my 
kitty will never see a shelter again. Even if I  die my family would never let 
that happen. It makes me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it 
"inconvenient" for whatever reason.  They give up their animal yet end up 
getting another one later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope 
everyone still likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all 
they need a good home and life too and one will have that with me for all of 
her days.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson 
<ar...@centurytel.net<mailto:ar...@centurytel.net>> wrote:
Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had after 
Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in PetSmart 
– I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very similar to 
Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow is comforting 
– even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I even had GUILT 
about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out of that glass 
enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with bringing one home. 
You will know if it is okay to help out another kitty…….Ardy


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know if 
it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my appetite 
is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein shakes. My eyes 
are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune of looking at me, 
or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to 
the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box 
of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with 
him and went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my 
feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss him.

I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they 
test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no 
sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for anything 
in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not ready for 
FELV again right n

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-11 Thread dlgegg
I agree!  I never go looking for another cat, they come to me, through a 
friend, a vet or just show up at my house.  I feed them and I am sunk, they 
stay.  ZI think God is sending me another soul to rescue and a rescue for me.  


 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote: 
> Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had 
> after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in 
> PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very 
> similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow 
> is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I 
> even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out 
> of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with 
> bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another 
> kitty…….Ardy
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
> 
>  
> 
> I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know 
> if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my 
> appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein 
> shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune 
> of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried 
> all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed 
> with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. 
> I laid there with him and went through my pictures again and talked to him 
> about all of my feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much 
> I miss him. 
> 
>  
> 
> I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they 
> test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no 
> sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for 
> anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not 
> ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any illness, 
> then I deal with it, because that is what you do.  I am going to Petsmart 
> over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be 
> ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it 
> won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest 
> gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a pictures of 
> a kitty on Pet finder he said  “Is that the one you want to get?” So I know 
> now that I will never again have to live without the feel of that soft fur on 
> my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my ear. It is so hard 
> because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. I guess we will see 
> what happens…
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> <mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
> 
>  
> 
> I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your fur-baby. 
> The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even though I said 
> I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my heart, but Topaz is 
> easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had with Tigger or like 
> you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a reason to not try again, 
> and with all the little homeless kitties, I think Tigger would have wanted me 
> to help another kitty. Certainly take your time, but I hope you can open your 
> heart again at some point.
> 
>  
> 
> Ardy
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for 
> me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my 
> adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined 
> him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had 
> him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency 
> vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He 
> touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a p

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-11 Thread Rachel Dagner
Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar to Tucker. 
I figure girls have way less of chance for getting blockages.  I know I will 
disappoint a lot of people on here, as well as some friends that do rescue by 
admitting they are young kitties and not old. I do feel a lot of guilt because 
I don't want any kitty to not have a home, but in the end it needs to be my 
decision and I have thought about the pros and cons a great deal. I wish I 
could save them all.  I am praying my new kitty will get used to riding in the 
car and will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker actually loved 
riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to follow me to my car 
and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I did take him home he 
snuggled right in the crate and looked positively content. I took him to the 
mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin with a huge screened porch so he 
could watch the wildlife. I also have the pet tracking gps collar he had to 
wear on vacation just in case. I never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years 
I had her with a sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't trust 
anyone with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want my new 
kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to make this 
happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every night just like 
Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play together like she and Tucker 
did. I hope that Harry will fall in love with her antics and cuteness like he 
did Tucker and come to appreciate cats even more, and even fall in love with 
her.  I meet them tomorrow and hope I feel something when I do. I desperately 
need to heal from this aching emptiness. One thing I know for sure is that my 
kitty will never see a shelter again. Even if I  die my family would never let 
that happen. It makes me so mad that people adopt a pet only to later find it 
"inconvenient" for whatever reason.  They give up their animal yet end up 
getting another one later. Pets are forever for better or worse. Anyways I hope 
everyone still likes me even though I am looking at young kitties after all 
they need a good home and life too and one will have that with me for all of 
her days. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 10, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> 
> Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had 
> after Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in 
> PetSmart – I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very 
> similar to Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow 
> is comforting – even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I 
> even had GUILT about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out 
> of that glass enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with 
> bringing one home. You will know if it is okay to help out another 
> kitty…….Ardy
>  
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>  
> I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know 
> if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my 
> appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein 
> shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune 
> of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried 
> all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed 
> with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. 
> I laid there with him and went through my pictures again and talked to him 
> about all of my feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much 
> I miss him.
>  
> I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they 
> test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no 
> sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for 
> anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not 
> ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any illness, 
> then I deal with it, because that is what you do.  I am going to Petsmart 
> over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be 
> ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it 
> won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest 
> gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a pictures of 
> a kitty on Pet finder he said  “Is that the one you want to get?” So I know 
> now that I will never aga

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-10 Thread Ardy Robertson
Rachel – you sound like you are going through a lot of the feelings I had after 
Tigger passed away. I quite accidentally looked over at the kitties in PetSmart 
– I was NOT going to look at them that day. But Topaz looks very similar to 
Tigger even though she is a girl and Tigg was a boy. That somehow is comforting 
– even though I am determined to not compare the two of them. I even had GUILT 
about liking Topaz. But I did feel like I had to get her out of that glass 
enclosure, and heck – I have a big house, what’s wrong with bringing one home. 
You will know if it is okay to help out another kitty…….Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

 

I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know if 
it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my appetite 
is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein shakes. My eyes 
are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune of looking at me, 
or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to 
the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box 
of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with 
him and went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my 
feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss him. 

 

I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they 
test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no 
sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for anything 
in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not ready for 
FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal 
with it, because that is what you do.  I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on 
Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be ready, or if this is 
what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it won’t hurt to go meet 
them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest gifts Tucker gave me is 
that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a pictures of a kitty on Pet finder he 
said  “Is that the one you want to get?” So I know now that I will never again 
have to live without the feel of that soft fur on my face or the heart melting 
sound of purring in my ear. It is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I 
am scared not to. I guess we will see what happens…

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

 

I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your fur-baby. 
The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even though I said I 
would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my heart, but Topaz is 
easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had with Tigger or like you 
had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a reason to not try again, and with 
all the little homeless kitties, I think Tigger would have wanted me to help 
another kitty. Certainly take your time, but I hope you can open your heart 
again at some point.

 

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

 

Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for 
me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my 
adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined him 
that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had him for 
a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency vet visits, 
surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He touched my life 
and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can keep him close to 
me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved and adored more than 
anything, and he never doubted my love for him.  

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. <kaths...@gmail.com 
<mailto:kaths...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories you 
shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you. 

 

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net 
<mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote:

I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.

Ardy

-Original Message-
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<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felinele

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-10 Thread dlgegg
I know, older cats are great have a lot of love to give and given care, can 
live to 19 or more.  Give them a chance.

 Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote: 
> 
> 
> Lorrie gives you very good advice. And many rescues, and even shelters will 
> let an older cat go on a trial basis. They will sometimes go a bit farther 
> for an older cat, knowing there are few options. Most potential adopters want 
> kittens. If you are very strong, consider a senior cat. They have often been 
> loved all their lives, and when their own person dies or goes into care, for 
> some reason there is no longer a place for them. Many have 6-8 good years 
> left, but that is a tough choice knowing time is limited.
> 
> Whatever your choice, thank you for giving another cat a soft, safe place to 
> fall... 
> 
> :)
> 
> Margo
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> >From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
> >Sent: Jun 9, 2016 10:47 AM
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
> >
> >Rachel,
> >
> >You will never forget Tucker, and a new cat will not replace Tucker,
> >but it will soon make it's own place in your heart.
> >-
> >
> >I cannot imagine not having a cat to love, when I lose one. There are
> >so many wonderful, loving cats who desperately need a home, and if I
> >may offer a bit of advise from an old lady If you want to be
> >sure of a very affectionate, loving cat I'd suggest you pick a cat,
> >not a kitten.  Kittens are adorable, but their personalities are not
> >yet formed, and you could be disappointed when the kitten grows up. 
> >With an older cat who reaches out to you with paws extended, purring
> >and ready for love, you'll get the kind of cat you need and want -
> >Go for it!
> >
> >
> >Lorrie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 06-09, Rachel Dagner wrote:
> >>I picked up Tucker's ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn't
> >>know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven't eaten since
> >>Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a
> >>couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone
> >>who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that
> >>matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the
> >>way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and
> >>I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and
> >>went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my
> >>feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss
> >>him.
> >> 
> >> 
> >>I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet
> >>finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don't. I
> >>know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn't trade my
> >>time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that
> >>emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If
> >>it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal with it, because
> >>that is what you do.  I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to
> >>meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be ready, or if this is
> >>what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it won't hurt to go
> >>meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest gifts Tucker
> >>gave me is that "no cats" Harry, when I showed him a pictures of a
> >>kitty on Pet finder he said  "Is that the one you want to get?" So I
> >>know now that I will never again have to live without the feel of that
> >>soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my ear. It
> >>is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. I
> >>guess we will see what happens...
> >> 
> >> 
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-09 Thread Margo
And  that's the way. You will know in some way. It will either be instant or a cat you can't get out of your head...especially if you find yourself thinking "I must be NUTS...but..."Don't rush. Or, you can do what i did with my newest dog. Turn to a rescuer you trust, and say "find me a dog (cat) that needs me". He's perfect :)But when it's time, it will happen...Margo-Original Message-
From: Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com>
Sent: Jun 9, 2016 9:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss him.  I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal with it, because that is what you do.  I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a pictures of a kitty on Pet finder he said  “Is that the one you want to get?” So I know now that I will never again have to live without the feel of that soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my ear. It is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. I guess we will see what happens… From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy RobertsonSent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point. Ardy  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel DagnerSent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted my love for him.  Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote:I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you.  On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.Ardy-Original Message-From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf OfRachel DagnerSent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: [Felvtalk] TuckerI lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing dueto the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was sovery hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I misshim so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today,and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was layingon my desk and purring and sleeping. 

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-09 Thread Margo


Lorrie gives you very good advice. And many rescues, and even shelters will let 
an older cat go on a trial basis. They will sometimes go a bit farther for an 
older cat, knowing there are few options. Most potential adopters want kittens. 
If you are very strong, consider a senior cat. They have often been loved all 
their lives, and when their own person dies or goes into care, for some reason 
there is no longer a place for them. Many have 6-8 good years left, but that is 
a tough choice knowing time is limited.

Whatever your choice, thank you for giving another cat a soft, safe place to 
fall... 

:)

Margo


-Original Message-
>From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
>Sent: Jun 9, 2016 10:47 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>Rachel,
>
>You will never forget Tucker, and a new cat will not replace Tucker,
>but it will soon make it's own place in your heart.
>-
>
>I cannot imagine not having a cat to love, when I lose one. There are
>so many wonderful, loving cats who desperately need a home, and if I
>may offer a bit of advise from an old lady If you want to be
>sure of a very affectionate, loving cat I'd suggest you pick a cat,
>not a kitten.  Kittens are adorable, but their personalities are not
>yet formed, and you could be disappointed when the kitten grows up. 
>With an older cat who reaches out to you with paws extended, purring
>and ready for love, you'll get the kind of cat you need and want -
>Go for it!
>
>
>Lorrie
>
>
>
>
>On 06-09, Rachel Dagner wrote:
>>I picked up Tucker's ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn't
>>know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven't eaten since
>>Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a
>>couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone
>>who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that
>>matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the
>>way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and
>>I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and
>>went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my
>>feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss
>>him.
>> 
>> 
>>I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet
>>finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don't. I
>>know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn't trade my
>>time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that
>>emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If
>>it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal with it, because
>>that is what you do.  I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to
>>meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be ready, or if this is
>>what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it won't hurt to go
>>meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest gifts Tucker
>>gave me is that "no cats" Harry, when I showed him a pictures of a
>>kitty on Pet finder he said  "Is that the one you want to get?" So I
>>know now that I will never again have to live without the feel of that
>>soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my ear. It
>>is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. I
>>guess we will see what happens...
>> 
>> 
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-09 Thread Christine Dundas
Rachel
You are in my thoughts.  Our little Ruthie died in my husband's arms.  We
also have her ashes.  I will never forget her.  We only had her a short
time, almost two years.  But she was very special.  I hate FELV so much.

Christine
On Jun 9, 2016 7:50 AM, "Rachel Dagner" <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote:

> I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t
> know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday
> my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein
> shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the
> misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of
> course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I
> curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a
> little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures
> again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about
> our memories and how much I miss him.
>
>
>
> I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder,
> they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there
> is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for
> anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am
> not ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any
> illness, then I deal with it, because that is what you do.  I am going to
> Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I
> will be ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal,
> but it won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the
> greatest gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a
> pictures of a kitty on Pet finder he said  “Is that the one you want to
> get?” So I know now that I will never again have to live without the feel
> of that soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my
> ear. It is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to.
> I guess we will see what happens…
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Ardy Robertson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
> I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your
> fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even
> though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my
> heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had
> with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a
> reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think
> Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your
> time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point.
>
>
>
> Ardy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] *On Behalf Of *Rachel Dagner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
> Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard
> for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of
> my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and
> imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I
> only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much.
> Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world
> though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private
> cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in
> his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted
> my love for him.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy
> memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're
> here for you.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net>
> wrote:
>
> I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.
>
> Ardy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
> I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing
> due
> to the tumor in his chest. It was time, the

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-09 Thread Lorrie
Rachel,

You will never forget Tucker, and a new cat will not replace Tucker,
but it will soon make it's own place in your heart.
-

I cannot imagine not having a cat to love, when I lose one. There are
so many wonderful, loving cats who desperately need a home, and if I
may offer a bit of advise from an old lady If you want to be
sure of a very affectionate, loving cat I'd suggest you pick a cat,
not a kitten.  Kittens are adorable, but their personalities are not
yet formed, and you could be disappointed when the kitten grows up. 
With an older cat who reaches out to you with paws extended, purring
and ready for love, you'll get the kind of cat you need and want -
Go for it!


Lorrie




On 06-09, Rachel Dagner wrote:
>I picked up Tucker's ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn't
>know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven't eaten since
>Sunday my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a
>couple protein shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone
>who has the misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that
>matter. Well, I of course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the
>way home. But then I curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and
>I actually did feel a little more at peace. I laid there with him and
>went through my pictures again and talked to him about all of my
>feelings and my love for him, about our memories and how much I miss
>him.
> 
> 
>I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet
>finder, they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don't. I
>know that there is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn't trade my
>time with Tucker for anything in the world. I just know that
>emotionally and financially I am not ready for FELV again right now. If
>it happens, just like with any illness, then I deal with it, because
>that is what you do.  I am going to Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to
>meet their kitties, I have no idea if I will be ready, or if this is
>what I desperately need to do to help me heal, but it won't hurt to go
>meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the greatest gifts Tucker
>gave me is that "no cats" Harry, when I showed him a pictures of a
>kitty on Pet finder he said  "Is that the one you want to get?" So I
>know now that I will never again have to live without the feel of that
>soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my ear. It
>is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to. I
>guess we will see what happens...
> 
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-09 Thread Katherine K.
Rachel, That's lovely. You could try fostering or volunteering with the
shelter or the cats at Petsmart. You could help some kitties along the way
but not have to make any big decisions or commitments until you're ready.
Of course, there's nothing quite like the excitement of officially
adopting. :) Whatever you do, I'm sure Tucker would be proud.

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote:

> I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t
> know if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday
> my appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein
> shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the
> misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of
> course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I
> curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a
> little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures
> again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about
> our memories and how much I miss him.
>
>
>
> I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder,
> they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there
> is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for
> anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am
> not ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any
> illness, then I deal with it, because that is what you do.  I am going to
> Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I
> will be ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal,
> but it won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the
> greatest gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a
> pictures of a kitty on Pet finder he said  “Is that the one you want to
> get?” So I know now that I will never again have to live without the feel
> of that soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my
> ear. It is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to.
> I guess we will see what happens…
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Ardy Robertson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PM
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
> I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your
> fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even
> though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my
> heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had
> with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a
> reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think
> Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your
> time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point.
>
>
>
> Ardy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] *On Behalf Of *Rachel Dagner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
> Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard
> for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of
> my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and
> imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I
> only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much.
> Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world
> though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private
> cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in
> his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted
> my love for him.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy
> memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're
> here for you.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net>
> wrote:
>
> I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.
>
> Ardy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
> I lost him y

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-09 Thread Rachel Dagner
I picked up Tucker’s ashes yesterday. I was really worried as I didn’t know
if it would make me feel better or worse. I haven’t eaten since Sunday my
appetite is nonexistent, I have managed to choke down a couple protein
shakes. My eyes are so swollen, I feel bad for anyone who has the
misfortune of looking at me, or being around me for that matter. Well, I of
course cried all of the way to the vets, and all the way home. But then I
curled up in bed with my little box of Tucker, and I actually did feel a
little more at peace. I laid there with him and went through my pictures
again and talked to him about all of my feelings and my love for him, about
our memories and how much I miss him.



I have actually been in touch with a rescue group I found on pet finder,
they test every cat for FELV/FIV while many others don’t. I know that there
is no sure thing with testing, and I wouldn’t trade my time with Tucker for
anything in the world. I just know that emotionally and financially I am
not ready for FELV again right now. If it happens, just like with any
illness, then I deal with it, because that is what you do.  I am going to
Petsmart over in Tampa on Sunday to meet their kitties, I have no idea if I
will be ready, or if this is what I desperately need to do to help me heal,
but it won’t hurt to go meet them and see how my heart feels. One of the
greatest gifts Tucker gave me is that “no cats” Harry, when I showed him a
pictures of a kitty on Pet finder he said  “Is that the one you want to
get?” So I know now that I will never again have to live without the feel
of that soft fur on my face or the heart melting sound of purring in my
ear. It is so hard because I am scared to get one, and I am scared not to.
I guess we will see what happens…



*From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of
*Ardy Robertson
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:59 PM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker



I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your
fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even
though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my
heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had
with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a
reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think
Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your
time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point.



Ardy





*From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
<felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] *On Behalf Of *Rachel Dagner
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker



Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard
for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of
my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and
imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I
only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much.
Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world
though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private
cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in
his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted
my love for him.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories
you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for
you.



On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:

I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.

Ardy

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Dagner
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker

I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due
to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so
very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.
It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss
him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today,
and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying
on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is
gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car
door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with
me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I
know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right
now.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-09 Thread Margo
Ardy,    Thank you. No, Topaz will never take Tigger's place, but I am very sure there is room in your heart for Topaz, as well. And it's an empty home without a cat (or two).Tigger is surely relieved that you will be taken care of...Margo-Original Message-
From: Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net>
Sent: Jun 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

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<zzz![endif]-->I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had with Tigger or like you had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a reason to not try again, and with all the little homeless kitties, I think Tigger would have wanted me to help another kitty. Certainly take your time, but I hope you can open your heart again at some point. Ardy  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel DagnerSent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can keep him close to me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved and adored more than anything, and he never doubted my love for him.  Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote:I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you.  On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote:I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.Ardy-Original Message-From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf OfRachel DagnerSent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: [Felvtalk] TuckerI lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing dueto the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was sovery hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I misshim so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today,and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was layingon my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he isgone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my cardoor open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home withme. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. Iknow that those here who have gone through this understand where I am rightnow.___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-08 Thread Ardy Robertson
I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your fur-baby. 
The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even though I said I 
would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my heart, but Topaz is 
easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had with Tigger or like you 
had with Tucker, but I figured that was not a reason to not try again, and with 
all the little homeless kitties, I think Tigger would have wanted me to help 
another kitty. Certainly take your time, but I hope you can open your heart 
again at some point.

 

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:22 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

 

Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for 
me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my 
adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined him 
that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had him for 
a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency vet visits, 
surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He touched my life 
and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can keep him close to 
me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved and adored more than 
anything, and he never doubted my love for him.  

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K. <kaths...@gmail.com 
<mailto:kaths...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories you 
shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you. 

 

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net 
<mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote:

I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.

Ardy

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<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of
Rachel Dagner
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker

I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due
to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so
very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.
It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss
him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today,
and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying
on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is
gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car
door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with
me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I
know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-08 Thread dlgegg
I have several burial sites on my ground close to the house.  When I run into 
too much rock (live on a rocky bluff), I start a new cemetary.  I have 2 dogs 
and 0ver 20 cats buried in my flower gardens.

 Rachel Dagner  wrote: 
> Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for 
> me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my 
> adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined 
> him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had 
> him for a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency 
> vet visits, surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He 
> touched my life and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can 
> keep him close to me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved 
> and adored more than anything, and he never doubted my love for him.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K.  wrote:
> > 
> > I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories 
> > you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you.
> > 
> >> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson  
> >> wrote:
> >> I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.
> >> 
> >> Ardy
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Rachel Dagner
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker
> >> 
> >> I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing 
> >> due
> >> to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was 
> >> so
> >> very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.
> >> It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss
> >> him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone 
> >> today,
> >> and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was 
> >> laying
> >> on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is
> >> gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car
> >> door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with
> >> me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I
> >> know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right
> >> now.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-08 Thread dlgegg
I have been there so many times, over 20 now.  You ask yourself "what more 
could I have done?", You did all you could, loved him, gave him food and 
shelter and loved him some more.  I think I know how you feel, but not really, 
because each one is different.   It will hurt for a long time and every time 
you think about him, you will cry, but it does get a little better as time goes 
by and if you are lucky, another one will come to yo in need of help and love 
and it starts all over again.  I think that is why we are here, to provide the 
love and care needed by some whose needs are great.  We are God's ambassadors 
to the animals around us.
 
 Rachel Dagner  wrote: 
> I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing
> due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It
> was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.
> It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss
> him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone
> today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he
> was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to
> believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an
> hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside
> and come home with me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain
> is just unbearable. I know that those here who have gone through this
> understand where I am right now.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker....

2016-06-08 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL

Rachel:

Expected or otherwise there just never seems to be an adequate way to 
prepare for such a loss  I am SO sorry.  I can only wish you the 
very FAST passage of enough time to mitigate the sadness...



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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-08 Thread Rachel Dagner
Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for 
me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my 
adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined him 
that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I only had him for 
a year and a half. In that time we went through so much. Emergency vet visits, 
surgeries, worry. I wouldn't change it for the world though. He touched my life 
and heart so much. I opted for a private cremation, so I can keep him close to 
me always. I was the one person in his life that he loved and adored more than 
anything, and he never doubted my love for him.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Katherine K.  wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories 
> you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you.
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson  wrote:
>> I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.
>> 
>> Ardy
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
>> Rachel Dagner
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>> 
>> I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due
>> to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so
>> very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.
>> It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss
>> him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today,
>> and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying
>> on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is
>> gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car
>> door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with
>> me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I
>> know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right
>> now.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-08 Thread Katherine K.
I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories
you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for
you.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson  wrote:

> I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.
>
> Ardy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
> I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing
> due
> to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was
> so
> very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.
> It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss
> him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone
> today,
> and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was
> laying
> on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is
> gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car
> door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with
> me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I
> know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right
> now.
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-07 Thread Ardy Robertson
I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker.

Ardy

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Dagner
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:33 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker

I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due
to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so
very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.
It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss
him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today,
and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying
on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is
gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car
door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with
me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I
know that those here who have gone through this understand where I am right
now.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-07 Thread Sandy
Rachel, I'm so, so sorry :) Life ... 
Sandy W 

- Original Message -

From: "Rachel Dagner"  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 10:33:13 AM 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker 

I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing 
due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It 
was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since. 
It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss 
him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone 
today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he 
was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to 
believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for at least an 
hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed to get inside 
and come home with me. I know it will get better, but right now the pain 
is just unbearable. I know that those here who have gone through this 
understand where I am right now. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-07 Thread Amani Oakley
Rachel

You're right. We've all been there but it doesn't ever get any easier. I had 
tears in my eyes, reading your email and knowing exactly what you are going 
through and how broken and heavy your heart feels right now. We all know, deep 
inside, that we did a wonderful thing for our little ones - giving them lots 
and lots of love and hugs. But right now, you'll be second-guessing yourself 
and wondering if you did the right thing. Know that you did, Rachel, and there 
was one less lonely, scared, hungry cat because of your commitment and your 
caring. 

Amani 

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: June-07-16 10:33 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker

I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time breathing due to 
the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in right away. It was so very 
hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.
It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I miss him 
so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily alone today, and 
can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last week and he was laying on my 
desk and purring and sleeping. It's just so hard to believe he is gone. I sat 
in the parking lot at my vets for at least an hour with my car door open, just 
in case he spirit needed to get inside and come home with me. I know it will 
get better, but right now the pain is just unbearable. I know that those here 
who have gone through this understand where I am right now.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

2016-05-10 Thread dlgegg
Sorry for your loss, not much tht can be said to ease the loss, but will keep 
you in my prayers.


 Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> wrote: 
> Hi Rachel and everyone on this site,

Amusing story (kind of - after the happy ending) about Tucker's Saturday 
morning stroll and then asking for a snack!

Unfortunately, I lost my baby boy Tigger last Friday evening. I have not been 
able to talk much about it since then, but since you asked, and also since I 
have been planning to send a message about him, here goes  Tigger was doing 
wonderfully up until about Thursday afternoon, improving every day, eating on 
his own, not dependent on his pain medication for nearly a month. His bloodwork 
was absolutely astonishing to say the least from the nearly flatline it had 
been! Even the pathologist at the lab put a note on his report that he re-ran 
the tests because he could not believe what he was seeing -- Tigg's 
non-regenerative leukemia was now regenerative!! Thursday evening, he didn't 
seem quite comfortable, and by Friday morning he did not want anything to eat 
and I started to worry. My husband watched him during the day on Friday and I 
came home early from work because I was worried. He passed away quietly at 
home, with us stroking him and telling him how much we love him. I am so 
thankful that I did not have to take him in to be put down. He did not like 
going to the vet at all and he was terrified of shots and needles such as blood 
draws.

I do feel that if I had started him on the Winstrol and Prednisolone sooner, 
along with a diet of the Hills Prescription A/D canned food he may have made 
it. I also now know that had I used the antibiotic Doxycycline rather than 
Convenia, it may have helped to prevent the virus from replicating. There are a 
lot of "what ifs" and "if onlys" but I do feel wholeheartedly that the Winstrol 
was what kept him going from early March until now. I also know that the 
veterinary field offers no other alternative in my area, other than 
euthanization which I would not consider doing to this wonderful little orange 
furball who rescued us five and a half years ago.

I also appreciate very much the time and effort Amani put in to help me with 
her experience of successfully treating an FeLV positive kitty, her expertise 
in interpreting lab results, and her friendship in supporting me on the roller 
coaster of his illness, cheering with me at his achievements, laughing with me 
at his antics, and finally crying with me as I lost him.

For me, there will be other kitties perhaps. I do have two others, but there 
will never ever be anything close to another cat like our Tigger Babe. Yes, we 
can keep the bathroom doors open now and not have shredded TP, we can open 
windows and doors and not get scratch marks in the screens, we don't have to 
lock the door when we're gone because we are crazy cat-people and afraid he 
would get out and be lost, we don't have to put chairs in front of the cupboard 
doors so he doesn't go in them, we don't have exorbitant vet bills, but I would 
gladly go back to all of that to have him back.

I thank everyone who commented on things to try to help him, for all your 
suggestions - I did try several of them. For now, I just have to remember the 
five wonderful years Tigger spent with us!

Thank you,
Ardy


-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky
cat)
and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him, 
tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do his 
supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing 
lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my worries. 
I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would get curious 
and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I know he's out 
and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is impossible. She says to 
let her try, she walks over to my door I had open for him and says come here 
Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes it behind him. I think she 
was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her.
Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would 
like a snack.

Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to improve...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Hi Rachel

There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is an 
anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids, corticos

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

2016-05-10 Thread Rachel Dagner
I am so very sorry Ardy. What a blessing that he got to be at home and with his 
family at the end. Feline Leukemia is a hard battle to fight, and a million 
times harder to win. I hope that someday they do more research on  Winstrol and 
other protocols that will help those like us in the future. Tigger was so lucky 
to have you as his mommy, you went above and beyond what many would do for 
their kitty, you fought a good fight, you should not question it for even one 
second. I believe with all of my heart that our spirits human and furry alike 
are always here with us, and that when it is our time we will all be reunited. 
I pray that time and all of your wonderful memories of Tigger will help to ease 
your pain. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> 
> I am still beyond heart-broken at Tigger's loss. Ardy was and is amazing - so 
> dedicated and loving to Tigger. As that sad and so-true saying goes, "if love 
> could have saved you, you would have lived forever". 
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
> Robertson
> Sent: May-09-16 8:52 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger
> 
> Hi Rachel and everyone on this site,
> 
> Amusing story (kind of - after the happy ending) about Tucker's Saturday 
> morning stroll and then asking for a snack!
> 
> Unfortunately, I lost my baby boy Tigger last Friday evening. I have not been 
> able to talk much about it since then, but since you asked, and also since I 
> have been planning to send a message about him, here goes  Tigger was 
> doing wonderfully up until about Thursday afternoon, improving every day, 
> eating on his own, not dependent on his pain medication for nearly a month. 
> His bloodwork was absolutely astonishing to say the least from the nearly 
> flatline it had been! Even the pathologist at the lab put a note on his 
> report that he re-ran the tests because he could not believe what he was 
> seeing -- Tigg's non-regenerative leukemia was now regenerative!! Thursday 
> evening, he didn't seem quite comfortable, and by Friday morning he did not 
> want anything to eat and I started to worry. My husband watched him during 
> the day on Friday and I came home early from work because I was worried. He 
> passed away quietly at home, with us stroking him and telling him how much we 
> love him. I am so thankful that I did not have to take him in to be put down. 
> He did not like going to the vet at all and he was terrified of shots and 
> needles such as blood draws.
> 
> I do feel that if I had started him on the Winstrol and Prednisolone sooner, 
> along with a diet of the Hills Prescription A/D canned food he may have made 
> it. I also now know that had I used the antibiotic Doxycycline rather than 
> Convenia, it may have helped to prevent the virus from replicating. There are 
> a lot of "what ifs" and "if onlys" but I do feel wholeheartedly that the 
> Winstrol was what kept him going from early March until now. I also know that 
> the veterinary field offers no other alternative in my area, other than 
> euthanization which I would not consider doing to this wonderful little 
> orange furball who rescued us five and a half years ago.
> 
> I also appreciate very much the time and effort Amani put in to help me with 
> her experience of successfully treating an FeLV positive kitty, her expertise 
> in interpreting lab results, and her friendship in supporting me on the 
> roller coaster of his illness, cheering with me at his achievements, laughing 
> with me at his antics, and finally crying with me as I lost him.
> 
> For me, there will be other kitties perhaps. I do have two others, but there 
> will never ever be anything close to another cat like our Tigger Babe. Yes, 
> we can keep the bathroom doors open now and not have shredded TP, we can open 
> windows and doors and not get scratch marks in the screens, we don't have to 
> lock the door when we're gone because we are crazy cat-people and afraid he 
> would get out and be lost, we don't have to put chairs in front of the 
> cupboard doors so he doesn't go in them, we don't have exorbitant vet bills, 
> but I would gladly go back to all of that to have him back.
> 
> I thank everyone who commented on things to try to help him, for all your 
> suggestions - I did try several of them. For now, I just have to remember the 
> five wonderful years Tigger spent with us!
> 
> Thank you,
> Ardy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Monday, 

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

2016-05-09 Thread Amani Oakley
I am still beyond heart-broken at Tigger's loss. Ardy was and is amazing - so 
dedicated and loving to Tigger. As that sad and so-true saying goes, "if love 
could have saved you, you would have lived forever". 

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: May-09-16 8:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

Hi Rachel and everyone on this site,

Amusing story (kind of - after the happy ending) about Tucker's Saturday 
morning stroll and then asking for a snack!

Unfortunately, I lost my baby boy Tigger last Friday evening. I have not been 
able to talk much about it since then, but since you asked, and also since I 
have been planning to send a message about him, here goes  Tigger was doing 
wonderfully up until about Thursday afternoon, improving every day, eating on 
his own, not dependent on his pain medication for nearly a month. His bloodwork 
was absolutely astonishing to say the least from the nearly flatline it had 
been! Even the pathologist at the lab put a note on his report that he re-ran 
the tests because he could not believe what he was seeing -- Tigg's 
non-regenerative leukemia was now regenerative!! Thursday evening, he didn't 
seem quite comfortable, and by Friday morning he did not want anything to eat 
and I started to worry. My husband watched him during the day on Friday and I 
came home early from work because I was worried. He passed away quietly at 
home, with us stroking him and telling him how much we love him. I am so 
thankful that I did not have to take him in to be put down. He did not like 
going to the vet at all and he was terrified of shots and needles such as blood 
draws.

I do feel that if I had started him on the Winstrol and Prednisolone sooner, 
along with a diet of the Hills Prescription A/D canned food he may have made 
it. I also now know that had I used the antibiotic Doxycycline rather than 
Convenia, it may have helped to prevent the virus from replicating. There are a 
lot of "what ifs" and "if onlys" but I do feel wholeheartedly that the Winstrol 
was what kept him going from early March until now. I also know that the 
veterinary field offers no other alternative in my area, other than 
euthanization which I would not consider doing to this wonderful little orange 
furball who rescued us five and a half years ago.

I also appreciate very much the time and effort Amani put in to help me with 
her experience of successfully treating an FeLV positive kitty, her expertise 
in interpreting lab results, and her friendship in supporting me on the roller 
coaster of his illness, cheering with me at his achievements, laughing with me 
at his antics, and finally crying with me as I lost him.

For me, there will be other kitties perhaps. I do have two others, but there 
will never ever be anything close to another cat like our Tigger Babe. Yes, we 
can keep the bathroom doors open now and not have shredded TP, we can open 
windows and doors and not get scratch marks in the screens, we don't have to 
lock the door when we're gone because we are crazy cat-people and afraid he 
would get out and be lost, we don't have to put chairs in front of the cupboard 
doors so he doesn't go in them, we don't have exorbitant vet bills, but I would 
gladly go back to all of that to have him back.

I thank everyone who commented on things to try to help him, for all your 
suggestions - I did try several of them. For now, I just have to remember the 
five wonderful years Tigger spent with us!

Thank you,
Ardy


-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky
cat)
and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him, 
tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do his 
supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing 
lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my worries. 
I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would get curious 
and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I know he's out 
and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is impossible. She says to 
let her try, she walks over to my door I had open for him and says come here 
Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes it behind him. I think she 
was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her.
Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would 
like a snack.

Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to improve...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] O

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

2016-05-09 Thread Ardy Robertson
Hi Rachel and everyone on this site,

Amusing story (kind of - after the happy ending) about Tucker's Saturday 
morning stroll and then asking for a snack!

Unfortunately, I lost my baby boy Tigger last Friday evening. I have not been 
able to talk much about it since then, but since you asked, and also since I 
have been planning to send a message about him, here goes  Tigger was doing 
wonderfully up until about Thursday afternoon, improving every day, eating on 
his own, not dependent on his pain medication for nearly a month. His bloodwork 
was absolutely astonishing to say the least from the nearly flatline it had 
been! Even the pathologist at the lab put a note on his report that he re-ran 
the tests because he could not believe what he was seeing -- Tigg's 
non-regenerative leukemia was now regenerative!! Thursday evening, he didn't 
seem quite comfortable, and by Friday morning he did not want anything to eat 
and I started to worry. My husband watched him during the day on Friday and I 
came home early from work because I was worried. He passed away quietly at 
home, with us stroking him and telling him how much we love him. I am so 
thankful that I did not have to take him in to be put down. He did not like 
going to the vet at all and he was terrified of shots and needles such as blood 
draws.

I do feel that if I had started him on the Winstrol and Prednisolone sooner, 
along with a diet of the Hills Prescription A/D canned food he may have made 
it. I also now know that had I used the antibiotic Doxycycline rather than 
Convenia, it may have helped to prevent the virus from replicating. There are a 
lot of "what ifs" and "if onlys" but I do feel wholeheartedly that the Winstrol 
was what kept him going from early March until now. I also know that the 
veterinary field offers no other alternative in my area, other than 
euthanization which I would not consider doing to this wonderful little orange 
furball who rescued us five and a half years ago.

I also appreciate very much the time and effort Amani put in to help me with 
her experience of successfully treating an FeLV positive kitty, her expertise 
in interpreting lab results, and her friendship in supporting me on the roller 
coaster of his illness, cheering with me at his achievements, laughing with me 
at his antics, and finally crying with me as I lost him.

For me, there will be other kitties perhaps. I do have two others, but there 
will never ever be anything close to another cat like our Tigger Babe. Yes, we 
can keep the bathroom doors open now and not have shredded TP, we can open 
windows and doors and not get scratch marks in the screens, we don't have to 
lock the door when we're gone because we are crazy cat-people and afraid he 
would get out and be lost, we don't have to put chairs in front of the cupboard 
doors so he doesn't go in them, we don't have exorbitant vet bills, but I would 
gladly go back to all of that to have him back.

I thank everyone who commented on things to try to help him, for all your 
suggestions - I did try several of them. For now, I just have to remember the 
five wonderful years Tigger spent with us!

Thank you,
Ardy


-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky
cat)
and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him, 
tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do his 
supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing 
lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my worries. 
I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would get curious 
and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I know he's out 
and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is impossible. She says to 
let her try, she walks over to my door I had open for him and says come here 
Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes it behind him. I think she 
was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her.
Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would 
like a snack.

Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to improve...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Hi Rachel

There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is an 
anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids, corticosteroids like 
Prednisone are used in inflammatory condition to reduce inflammation. They 
start acting quickly and they reduce inflammation and tamp down the immune 
s

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

2016-05-09 Thread Rachel Dagner
Cats. You gotta love them! Ouch on your broken arm, that makes EVERYTHING
more difficult. Ugh.

-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Rachel Dagner
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

How many times has someone gotten out and I spent hours wandering up and
down the road calling, hoping and prying, no results.  I come in, give up
and then notice the culprit standing at the window scratching at it and
meowing, acting like i had pushed them out and refused to let them in. At
this point, I do not know if I should punish them or pick them up and love
the life out of them.  Dee did this the other day and she never runs of,
always wants back in within 1/2 hour.  And me with a broken arm, having to
use a cane!  I wanted to kill her but was so glad she was back home all I
could do was hug her.

 Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote:
> My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one
> sneaky
cat)
and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him,
tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do
his supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing
lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my
worries. I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would
get curious and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I
know he's out and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is
impossible. She says to let her try, she walks over to my door I had open
for him and says come here Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes
it behind him. I think she was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her.
Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would
like a snack.

Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to
improve...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Hi Rachel

There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is
an anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids, corticosteroids like
Prednisone are used in inflammatory condition to reduce inflammation. They
start acting quickly and they reduce inflammation and tamp down the immune
system. Anabolic steroids, like Winstrol, on the other hand, build muscle
and tissue, speed up healing, increase appetite and strength, and are also
used in humans (and cats) to up red cell production in profound anemia.
Unlike prednisone, Winstrol does not damp down the immune system. Using the
two together works well in cats, and one thing about cats - they have a VERY
different responses to steroids than humans and dogs. Cats have a very good
response to prednisone and they do not suffer most of the side effects one
sees in people and dogs and you don’t need to be nearly as careful in with
the use of corticosteroids in cats (especially the need to gradually taper
them off as you do with people and dogs).

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Dagner
Sent: May-06-16 11:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Yes, he is on a long acting prednisone right now due to the lymphoma, my vet
(not holistic) has always cringed when we put him steroids because they say
it has bad side effects to begin with, and with FELV it suppresses the
immune system, yes I know, completely contradictory to what your experience
with steroids has been. One of the three parts of his Vitality Science
protocol is an herbal anti-inflammatory that I give him twice a day one hour
after the other treatments. I also put him on NVH Tripsy which a lot of
positive reviews for UTIs and crystals. But definitely if I notice even the
smallest amount of urination problems I will take your advice and discuss
with my vet keeping him on it long term. I also have metacam at home in my
arsenal of just in case of a urinary issue from my vet, it is a non
steroidal anti-inflammatory. My vet cringes about that to, I think because
they feel it is not as safe in cats as it is in dogs...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 11:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Rachel

I think you mentioned before that you had had Tucker on prednisone, and if
you haven’t, then my suggestion would be having him on that for sure, on an
ongoing basis. Sounds like one of the problems is that the area may be
inflamed and thus, the whole blocks up again and again. Keeping the swelling
down with prednisone may be effectiv

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

2016-05-09 Thread dlgegg
How many times has someone gotten out and I spent hours wandering up and down 
the road calling, hoping and prying, no results.  I come in, give up and then 
notice the culprit standing at the window scratching at it and meowing, acting 
like i had pushed them out and refused to let them in. At this point, I do not 
know if I should punish them or pick them up and love the life out of them.  
Dee did this the other day and she never runs of, always wants back in within 
1/2 hour.  And me with a broken arm, having to use a cane!  I wanted to kill 
her but was so glad she was back home all I could do was hug her.

 Rachel Dagner  wrote: 
> My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky
cat)
and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him,
tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do
his supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing
lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my
worries. I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would
get curious and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I
know he's out and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is
impossible. She says to let her try, she walks over to my door I had open
for him and says come here Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes
it behind him. I think she was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her.
Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would
like a snack.

Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to
improve...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Hi Rachel

There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is
an anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids, corticosteroids like
Prednisone are used in inflammatory condition to reduce inflammation. They
start acting quickly and they reduce inflammation and tamp down the immune
system. Anabolic steroids, like Winstrol, on the other hand, build muscle
and tissue, speed up healing, increase appetite and strength, and are also
used in humans (and cats) to up red cell production in profound anemia.
Unlike prednisone, Winstrol does not damp down the immune system. Using the
two together works well in cats, and one thing about cats - they have a VERY
different responses to steroids than humans and dogs. Cats have a very good
response to prednisone and they do not suffer most of the side effects one
sees in people and dogs and you don’t need to be nearly as careful in with
the use of corticosteroids in cats (especially the need to gradually taper
them off as you do with people and dogs).

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Dagner
Sent: May-06-16 11:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Yes, he is on a long acting prednisone right now due to the lymphoma, my vet
(not holistic) has always cringed when we put him steroids because they say
it has bad side effects to begin with, and with FELV it suppresses the
immune system, yes I know, completely contradictory to what your experience
with steroids has been. One of the three parts of his Vitality Science
protocol is an herbal anti-inflammatory that I give him twice a day one hour
after the other treatments. I also put him on NVH Tripsy which a lot of
positive reviews for UTIs and crystals. But definitely if I notice even the
smallest amount of urination problems I will take your advice and discuss
with my vet keeping him on it long term. I also have metacam at home in my
arsenal of just in case of a urinary issue from my vet, it is a non
steroidal anti-inflammatory. My vet cringes about that to, I think because
they feel it is not as safe in cats as it is in dogs...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 11:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Rachel

I think you mentioned before that you had had Tucker on prednisone, and if
you haven’t, then my suggestion would be having him on that for sure, on an
ongoing basis. Sounds like one of the problems is that the area may be
inflamed and thus, the whole blocks up again and again. Keeping the swelling
down with prednisone may be effective. This wouldn’t require you to
discontinue the holistic or alternative therapies.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Dagner
Sent: May-06-16 9:21 AM
To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

2016-05-09 Thread dlgegg
You are the first one I have heard from for a couple of days.


 Rachel Dagner  wrote: 
> My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky
cat)
and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him,
tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do
his supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing
lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my
worries. I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would
get curious and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I
know he's out and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is
impossible. She says to let her try, she walks over to my door I had open
for him and says come here Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes
it behind him. I think she was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her.
Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would
like a snack.

Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to
improve...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Hi Rachel

There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is
an anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids, corticosteroids like
Prednisone are used in inflammatory condition to reduce inflammation. They
start acting quickly and they reduce inflammation and tamp down the immune
system. Anabolic steroids, like Winstrol, on the other hand, build muscle
and tissue, speed up healing, increase appetite and strength, and are also
used in humans (and cats) to up red cell production in profound anemia.
Unlike prednisone, Winstrol does not damp down the immune system. Using the
two together works well in cats, and one thing about cats - they have a VERY
different responses to steroids than humans and dogs. Cats have a very good
response to prednisone and they do not suffer most of the side effects one
sees in people and dogs and you don’t need to be nearly as careful in with
the use of corticosteroids in cats (especially the need to gradually taper
them off as you do with people and dogs).

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Dagner
Sent: May-06-16 11:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Yes, he is on a long acting prednisone right now due to the lymphoma, my vet
(not holistic) has always cringed when we put him steroids because they say
it has bad side effects to begin with, and with FELV it suppresses the
immune system, yes I know, completely contradictory to what your experience
with steroids has been. One of the three parts of his Vitality Science
protocol is an herbal anti-inflammatory that I give him twice a day one hour
after the other treatments. I also put him on NVH Tripsy which a lot of
positive reviews for UTIs and crystals. But definitely if I notice even the
smallest amount of urination problems I will take your advice and discuss
with my vet keeping him on it long term. I also have metacam at home in my
arsenal of just in case of a urinary issue from my vet, it is a non
steroidal anti-inflammatory. My vet cringes about that to, I think because
they feel it is not as safe in cats as it is in dogs...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 11:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Rachel

I think you mentioned before that you had had Tucker on prednisone, and if
you haven’t, then my suggestion would be having him on that for sure, on an
ongoing basis. Sounds like one of the problems is that the area may be
inflamed and thus, the whole blocks up again and again. Keeping the swelling
down with prednisone may be effective. This wouldn’t require you to
discontinue the holistic or alternative therapies.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Dagner
Sent: May-06-16 9:21 AM
To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

Yes, it was that group, and they continued to make me feel horrible even
after I tried to explain my circumstances, and why I was trying something
else. I was told over and over flat out that holistic does not work and my
cat would die soon. If my situation with Tucker was different I would have
done chemo, I would never tell someone not to do chemo on their pet. Even if
someone said they would do nothing at all "palliative care" I would support
them, as it is so painful to lose an animal no matter what you choose. I
pray every day that I am giving 

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker escapade, & Tigger

2016-05-09 Thread Rachel Dagner
My boyfriend accidentally let him out Saturday morning (he is one sneaky
cat)
and I spent an hour and a half following him around and trying to get him,
tried every trick in the book, I was upset because I was just about to do
his supplements when he made his escape. He stayed well out of reach chasing
lizards and bugs and very much enjoying himself with no concern for my
worries. I finally gave up and decided to work in the yard thinking he would
get curious and I could snatch him. My neighbor comes over and asked me if I
know he's out and I tell her yes and that I can't get him, that it is
impossible. She says to let her try, she walks over to my door I had open
for him and says come here Tucker. He walks right in the door and she closes
it behind him. I think she was pretty surprised by the big hug I gave her.
Then I came in and he acted as if nothing had happened and told me he would
like a snack.

Has anyone heard from Ardy about Tigger. I hope he is continuing to
improve...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 12:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Hi Rachel

There are TWO types of steroids. Prednisone is corticosteroid. Winstrol is
an anabolic steroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids, corticosteroids like
Prednisone are used in inflammatory condition to reduce inflammation. They
start acting quickly and they reduce inflammation and tamp down the immune
system. Anabolic steroids, like Winstrol, on the other hand, build muscle
and tissue, speed up healing, increase appetite and strength, and are also
used in humans (and cats) to up red cell production in profound anemia.
Unlike prednisone, Winstrol does not damp down the immune system. Using the
two together works well in cats, and one thing about cats - they have a VERY
different responses to steroids than humans and dogs. Cats have a very good
response to prednisone and they do not suffer most of the side effects one
sees in people and dogs and you don’t need to be nearly as careful in with
the use of corticosteroids in cats (especially the need to gradually taper
them off as you do with people and dogs).

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Dagner
Sent: May-06-16 11:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Yes, he is on a long acting prednisone right now due to the lymphoma, my vet
(not holistic) has always cringed when we put him steroids because they say
it has bad side effects to begin with, and with FELV it suppresses the
immune system, yes I know, completely contradictory to what your experience
with steroids has been. One of the three parts of his Vitality Science
protocol is an herbal anti-inflammatory that I give him twice a day one hour
after the other treatments. I also put him on NVH Tripsy which a lot of
positive reviews for UTIs and crystals. But definitely if I notice even the
smallest amount of urination problems I will take your advice and discuss
with my vet keeping him on it long term. I also have metacam at home in my
arsenal of just in case of a urinary issue from my vet, it is a non
steroidal anti-inflammatory. My vet cringes about that to, I think because
they feel it is not as safe in cats as it is in dogs...

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 11:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urinary Tract Issues

Rachel

I think you mentioned before that you had had Tucker on prednisone, and if
you haven’t, then my suggestion would be having him on that for sure, on an
ongoing basis. Sounds like one of the problems is that the area may be
inflamed and thus, the whole blocks up again and again. Keeping the swelling
down with prednisone may be effective. This wouldn’t require you to
discontinue the holistic or alternative therapies.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Dagner
Sent: May-06-16 9:21 AM
To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

Yes, it was that group, and they continued to make me feel horrible even
after I tried to explain my circumstances, and why I was trying something
else. I was told over and over flat out that holistic does not work and my
cat would die soon. If my situation with Tucker was different I would have
done chemo, I would never tell someone not to do chemo on their pet. Even if
someone said they would do nothing at all "palliative care" I would support
them, as it is so painful to lose an animal no matter what you choose. I
pray every day that I am giving Tucker QOL and that he defies the odds and
lasts as long as he would have with Chemo. My parents did (very