Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo
Thank you all for the kind words. It's been a rough couple of days. I loved Mo so much, it's hard to come to grips with losing him. We visited our other FeLV friends at the rescue yesterday. A couple of other volunteers came in and would you believe they stared talking amongst themselves about missing Mo? I teared up and my daughter explained to them what happened, they all said Mo was their favorite and were so sad to hear he didn't make it but so glad he finally had a home. Little Mo really did touch as many lives as he could and we were lucky to be his family in the end. I miss my little boy, I know you all miss your departed fur-babies too. It helps to have people understand how hard this is. I hope everyone has a wonderful Easter weekend. Sheri On Sat, Apr 15, 2017, 1:45 PM rosebudcocopuff <rosebudcocop...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Oh Sheri.I am so very sorryI have lost 4 FELV positive babies in > the past 6 months. Currently my boy, Clayton is fighting. I KNOW the > heartache and emptinessmy very deepest sympathies > Powered by Cricket Wireless > > "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Good-by, sweet, brave little Mo. > > Thanks, Sheri, for giving him the best care and love. May you find some > comfort in the memories of your happy times together. > On Apr 14, 2017 9:30 PM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: > >> Sheri I am so sorry. I know the heartbreak only too well. When my mother >> used to ask me why I was so crazy to keep going out there and getting >> another cat to break my heart, and why I would want to keep going through >> this, I would reply that if those of us who love them so much aren’t >> willing to suffer in order to help them, it certainly won’t be those who >> don’t care, who will take them in. >> >> >> >> You are one of the good guys. Mo was lucky to have this time with you. >> >> >> >> Amani >> >> >> > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf >> Of *Sheri Burbridge >> *Sent:* April-14-17 8:37 PM >> > >> *To:* Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo >> > >> >> We had to take Mo in and have him put to sleep tonight. I've never been >> more sure of a decision in my life. We spent every good moment he had left >> with him over this week but he was obviously suffering and confused and he >> was ready. >> >> >> >> My heart is broken, I'll miss him so very much. He had a heart of gold >> and more love in his little body than the oceans could hold. I'm so >> thankful he got to be with us even for a short time. >> >> >> >> Thank you for the support and information. I really hope Violet never >> goes through this but at least I'm more educated about it now. >> >> >> >> Nothing can take fill the void Mo has left in our hearts and home. He was >> truly one of a kind. >> >> >> >> Sheri >> > >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo
Oh Sheri.I am so very sorryI have lost 4 FELV positive babies in the past 6 months. Currently my boy, Clayton is fighting. I KNOW the heartache and emptinessmy very deepest sympathies Powered by Cricket Wireless "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote: >Good-by, sweet, brave little Mo. > >Thanks, Sheri, for giving him the best care and love. May you find some >comfort in the memories of your happy times together. > >On Apr 14, 2017 9:30 PM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: > >> Sheri I am so sorry. I know the heartbreak only too well. When my mother >> used to ask me why I was so crazy to keep going out there and getting >> another cat to break my heart, and why I would want to keep going through >> this, I would reply that if those of us who love them so much aren’t >> willing to suffer in order to help them, it certainly won’t be those who >> don’t care, who will take them in. >> >> >> >> You are one of the good guys. Mo was lucky to have this time with you. >> >> >> >> Amani >> >> >> >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf >> Of *Sheri Burbridge >> *Sent:* April-14-17 8:37 PM >> *To:* Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo >> >> >> >> We had to take Mo in and have him put to sleep tonight. I've never been >> more sure of a decision in my life. We spent every good moment he had left >> with him over this week but he was obviously suffering and confused and he >> was ready. >> >> >> >> My heart is broken, I'll miss him so very much. He had a heart of gold and >> more love in his little body than the oceans could hold. I'm so thankful he >> got to be with us even for a short time. >> >> >> >> Thank you for the support and information. I really hope Violet never goes >> through this but at least I'm more educated about it now. >> >> >> >> Nothing can take fill the void Mo has left in our hearts and home. He was >> truly one of a kind. >> >> >> >> Sheri >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo
So very sorry that Mo had to lose his battle with the awful FeLV…….. but still so happy that he got to know a loving family – that there was more to life than a shelter, or being alone out in the cold. He had a loving family and he can rest in peace now without pain. He will never be forgotten. There are some kitties (I found this out through having our Tigger) that are always going to be in our hearts, right at the top where we can pull out the memories. Thank you for being Mo’s loving family! Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 7:37 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo We had to take Mo in and have him put to sleep tonight. I've never been more sure of a decision in my life. We spent every good moment he had left with him over this week but he was obviously suffering and confused and he was ready. My heart is broken, I'll miss him so very much. He had a heart of gold and more love in his little body than the oceans could hold. I'm so thankful he got to be with us even for a short time. Thank you for the support and information. I really hope Violet never goes through this but at least I'm more educated about it now. Nothing can take fill the void Mo has left in our hearts and home. He was truly one of a kind. Sheri ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo
Good-by, sweet, brave little Mo. Thanks, Sheri, for giving him the best care and love. May you find some comfort in the memories of your happy times together. On Apr 14, 2017 9:30 PM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: > Sheri I am so sorry. I know the heartbreak only too well. When my mother > used to ask me why I was so crazy to keep going out there and getting > another cat to break my heart, and why I would want to keep going through > this, I would reply that if those of us who love them so much aren’t > willing to suffer in order to help them, it certainly won’t be those who > don’t care, who will take them in. > > > > You are one of the good guys. Mo was lucky to have this time with you. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Sheri Burbridge > *Sent:* April-14-17 8:37 PM > *To:* Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo > > > > We had to take Mo in and have him put to sleep tonight. I've never been > more sure of a decision in my life. We spent every good moment he had left > with him over this week but he was obviously suffering and confused and he > was ready. > > > > My heart is broken, I'll miss him so very much. He had a heart of gold and > more love in his little body than the oceans could hold. I'm so thankful he > got to be with us even for a short time. > > > > Thank you for the support and information. I really hope Violet never goes > through this but at least I'm more educated about it now. > > > > Nothing can take fill the void Mo has left in our hearts and home. He was > truly one of a kind. > > > > Sheri > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo
Sheri I am so sorry. I know the heartbreak only too well. When my mother used to ask me why I was so crazy to keep going out there and getting another cat to break my heart, and why I would want to keep going through this, I would reply that if those of us who love them so much aren’t willing to suffer in order to help them, it certainly won’t be those who don’t care, who will take them in. You are one of the good guys. Mo was lucky to have this time with you. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: April-14-17 8:37 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo We had to take Mo in and have him put to sleep tonight. I've never been more sure of a decision in my life. We spent every good moment he had left with him over this week but he was obviously suffering and confused and he was ready. My heart is broken, I'll miss him so very much. He had a heart of gold and more love in his little body than the oceans could hold. I'm so thankful he got to be with us even for a short time. Thank you for the support and information. I really hope Violet never goes through this but at least I'm more educated about it now. Nothing can take fill the void Mo has left in our hearts and home. He was truly one of a kind. Sheri ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo
Sheri, I'm so sorry it was little Mo's time to leave. One of the greatest acts of Love is helping them leave their "broken" bodies behind even though their hearts were so so very big & beautiful. Sleep Soft, little Mo. Kat (Mew Jersey) Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 at 8:37 PM From: "Sheri Burbridge" <sheri7...@gmail.com> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo We had to take Mo in and have him put to sleep tonight. I've never been more sure of a decision in my life. We spent every good moment he had left with him over this week but he was obviously suffering and confused and he was ready. My heart is broken, I'll miss him so very much. He had a heart of gold and more love in his little body than the oceans could hold. I'm so thankful he got to be with us even for a short time. Thank you for the support and information. I really hope Violet never goes through this but at least I'm more educated about it now. Nothing can take fill the void Mo has left in our hearts and home. He was truly one of a kind. Sheri ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo
Sheri, I'm so sorry. Peace be with you. Sandy W - Original Message - From: "Sheri Burbridge" <sheri7...@gmail.com> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 8:37:13 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo We had to take Mo in and have him put to sleep tonight. I've never been more sure of a decision in my life. We spent every good moment he had left with him over this week but he was obviously suffering and confused and he was ready. My heart is broken, I'll miss him so very much. He had a heart of gold and more love in his little body than the oceans could hold. I'm so thankful he got to be with us even for a short time. Thank you for the support and information. I really hope Violet never goes through this but at least I'm more educated about it now. Nothing can take fill the void Mo has left in our hearts and home. He was truly one of a kind. Sheri ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Goodbye to sweet Mo
We had to take Mo in and have him put to sleep tonight. I've never been more sure of a decision in my life. We spent every good moment he had left with him over this week but he was obviously suffering and confused and he was ready. My heart is broken, I'll miss him so very much. He had a heart of gold and more love in his little body than the oceans could hold. I'm so thankful he got to be with us even for a short time. Thank you for the support and information. I really hope Violet never goes through this but at least I'm more educated about it now. Nothing can take fill the void Mo has left in our hearts and home. He was truly one of a kind. Sheri ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Said goodbye to Terence (and also got a bite!)
We said good bye to one of our 8 month old FeLV kittens, Terence, yesterday. He had been declining for a couple of weeks and was very thin, and definitely not as active has his 3 siblings still are. We tried making him eat wet food but it just wasn't working and the last day or two we didn't hear any purring. So we felt it was time for him to be in a better place. As the vet was giving him the first injection to anesthetize him he squirmed around and bit me on the first knuckle and cuticle area of my finger. I've been scratched millions of times by cats and know how to clean scratches, but had never actually been bitten. I had been following this thread all weekend so I let it bleed out, then cleaned it up after we got home with him. Overnight my finger swelled up and looks infected, and I have a strange pain in my armpit (same arm) that I'm wondering if it's related. I took a couple of Cephalexin doses but I'm going to the doc this morning since it's still pretty painful and swollen. We've had Terence and his siblings since they were 2 weeks old back in April. Yesterday was a bittersweet day but I'm relieved knowing he's no longer languishing. I'm also grateful for this listserv. Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Said goodbye to Terence (and also got a bite!)
It is hard to let them go, but now he is in a better place and knows no pain. We are the only ones suffering. I am sure that God will send you another soul to look after, He always does for me. You won't forget Terence, but a new one gives you someone else to love and eases the pain. Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: We said good bye to one of our 8 month old FeLV kittens, Terence, yesterday. He had been declining for a couple of weeks and was very thin, and definitely not as active has his 3 siblings still are. We tried making him eat wet food but it just wasn't working and the last day or two we didn't hear any purring. So we felt it was time for him to be in a better place. As the vet was giving him the first injection to anesthetize him he squirmed around and bit me on the first knuckle and cuticle area of my finger. I've been scratched millions of times by cats and know how to clean scratches, but had never actually been bitten. I had been following this thread all weekend so I let it bleed out, then cleaned it up after we got home with him. Overnight my finger swelled up and looks infected, and I have a strange pain in my armpit (same arm) that I'm wondering if it's related. I took a couple of Cephalexin doses but I'm going to the doc this morning since it's still pretty painful and swollen. We've had Terence and his siblings since they were 2 weeks old back in April. Yesterday was a bittersweet day but I'm relieved knowing he's no longer languishing. I'm also grateful for this listserv. Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Said goodbye to Terence (and also got a bite!)
so very sorry about baby terrence. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Katherine K. wrote: We said good bye to one of our 8 month old FeLV kittens, Terence, yesterday. He had been declining for a couple of weeks and was very thin, and definitely not as active has his 3 siblings still are. We tried making him eat wet food but it just wasn't working and the last day or two we didn't hear any purring. So we felt it was time for him to be in a better place. As the vet was giving him the first injection to anesthetize him he squirmed around and bit me on the first knuckle and cuticle area of my finger. I've been scratched millions of times by cats and know how to clean scratches, but had never actually been bitten. I had been following this thread all weekend so I let it bleed out, then cleaned it up after we got home with him. Overnight my finger swelled up and looks infected, and I have a strange pain in my armpit (same arm) that I'm wondering if it's related. I took a couple of Cephalexin doses but I'm going to the doc this morning since it's still pretty painful and swollen. We've had Terence and his siblings since they were 2 weeks old back in April. Yesterday was a bittersweet day but I'm relieved knowing he's no longer languishing. I'm also grateful for this listserv. Katherine -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Said goodbye to Terence (and also got a bite!)
I'm so sorry for your loss. We have all been there and it's heartbreaking to have to go through this! God bless you, Sent from my iPhone. On Dec 16, 2013, at 20:13, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: so very sorry about baby terrence. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Katherine K. wrote: We said good bye to one of our 8 month old FeLV kittens, Terence, yesterday. He had been declining for a couple of weeks and was very thin, and definitely not as active has his 3 siblings still are. We tried making him eat wet food but it just wasn't working and the last day or two we didn't hear any purring. So we felt it was time for him to be in a better place. As the vet was giving him the first injection to anesthetize him he squirmed around and bit me on the first knuckle and cuticle area of my finger. I've been scratched millions of times by cats and know how to clean scratches, but had never actually been bitten. I had been following this thread all weekend so I let it bleed out, then cleaned it up after we got home with him. Overnight my finger swelled up and looks infected, and I have a strange pain in my armpit (same arm) that I'm wondering if it's related. I took a couple of Cephalexin doses but I'm going to the doc this morning since it's still pretty painful and swollen. We've had Terence and his siblings since they were 2 weeks old back in April. Yesterday was a bittersweet day but I'm relieved knowing he's no longer languishing. I'm also grateful for this listserv. Katherine -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper
I am heartbroken to say that this afternoon my sweet Casper lost his battle. He was one of the most sweet tempered cats I have ever known. He never ever bit or clawed anyone in anger, not for any reason. He used to come to bed and make bread in the middle of the night right into my stomach until I got in the habit of sleeping while holding his paws gently in my hands. He loved nothing more then to be brushed with an old blue hairbrush. In the middle of the night last night I was spending what I was pretty sure was my last few hours with him brushing him with it. He was still pushing against it with the sides of his face and purring. This morning when I left for work I told him goodbye and thanked him for coming to live with me and being such a special kitty. My mother in law sat with him today and he passed around 2:30. She told me the rest of the cats in the house came and sat in a circle around him, almost like a vigil. Orlando has slept near him for the last several days and through the night. I hope now Casper is in a place where there is no more feline leukemia and he can run free and watch the birds and chipmunks all he wants. Whenever I lose one of these sweet kitties they take a piece of my heart. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper
And they give you their hearts..I am so glad Casper could leave this world loved and at home with his friends. I know he is sending you the very best kind of love and warmth...a warmth that will make your heart heal and grow so you can continue loving little ones. On Apr 7, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Frank Sue Koren wrote: I am heartbroken to say that this afternoon my sweet Casper lost his battle. He was one of the most sweet tempered cats I have ever known. He never ever bit or clawed anyone in anger, not for any reason. He used to come to bed and make bread in the middle of the night right into my stomach until I got in the habit of sleeping while holding his paws gently in my hands. He loved nothing more then to be brushed with an old blue hairbrush. In the middle of the night last night I was spending what I was pretty sure was my last few hours with him brushing him with it. He was still pushing against it with the sides of his face and purring. This morning when I left for work I told him goodbye and thanked him for coming to live with me and being such a special kitty. My mother in law sat with him today and he passed around 2:30. She told me the rest of the cats in the house came and sat in a circle around him, almost like a vigil. Orlando has slept near him for the last several days and through the night. I hope now Casper is in a place where there is no more feline leukemia and he can run free and watch the birds and chipmunks all he wants. Whenever I lose one of these sweet kitties they take a piece of my heart. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper
I am so very sorry!!! You are in my heart prayers!!! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper
So sorry to hear of your loss.I love mine everyday and tell her how special she is A failure is just a stopover on the way to SUCCESS. --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: From: Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper To: FeLV talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 5:28 PM I am heartbroken to say that this afternoon my sweet Casper lost his battle. He was one of the most sweet tempered cats I have ever known. He never ever bit or clawed anyone in anger, not for any reason. He used to come to bed and make bread in the middle of the night right into my stomach until I got in the habit of sleeping while holding his paws gently in my hands. He loved nothing more then to be brushed with an old blue hairbrush. In the middle of the night last night I was spending what I was pretty sure was my last few hours with him brushing him with it. He was still pushing against it with the sides of his face and purring. This morning when I left for work I told him goodbye and thanked him for coming to live with me and being such a special kitty. My mother in law sat with him today and he passed around 2:30. She told me the rest of the cats in the house came and sat in a circle around him, almost like a vigil. Orlando has slept near him for the last several days and through the night. I hope now Casper is in a place where there is no more feline leukemia and he can run free and watch the birds and chipmunks all he wants. Whenever I lose one of these sweet kitties they take a piece of my heart. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper
I am sorry for your loss. What a sweet tribute. While he may have taken a piece of your heart, it sounds like having him in your life added to your heart, too. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:28:57 To: FeLV talkfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper I am heartbroken to say that this afternoon my sweet Casper lost his battle. He was one of the most sweet tempered cats I have ever known. He never ever bit or clawed anyone in anger, not for any reason. He used to come to bed and make bread in the middle of the night right into my stomach until I got in the habit of sleeping while holding his paws gently in my hands. He loved nothing more then to be brushed with an old blue hairbrush. In the middle of the night last night I was spending what I was pretty sure was my last few hours with him brushing him with it. He was still pushing against it with the sides of his face and purring. This morning when I left for work I told him goodbye and thanked him for coming to live with me and being such a special kitty. My mother in law sat with him today and he passed around 2:30. She told me the rest of the cats in the house came and sat in a circle around him, almost like a vigil. Orlando has slept near him for the last several days and through the night. I hope now Casper is in a place where there is no more feline leukemia and he can run free and watch the birds and chipmunks all he wants. Whenever I lose one of these sweet kitties they take a piece of my heart. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper
Sue, I'm so sorry. I'm glad you were able to let him pass at home on his own and that the sib-kits were all there. GLOW to light his path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com To: FeLV talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 7:28:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper I am heartbroken to say that this afternoon my sweet Casper lost his battle. He was one of the most sweet tempered cats I have ever known. He never ever bit or clawed anyone in anger, not for any reason. He used to come to bed and make bread in the middle of the night right into my stomach until I got in the habit of sleeping while holding his paws gently in my hands. He loved nothing more then to be brushed with an old blue hairbrush. In the middle of the night last night I was spending what I was pretty sure was my last few hours with him brushing him with it. He was still pushing against it with the sides of his face and purring. This morning when I left for work I told him goodbye and thanked him for coming to live with me and being such a special kitty. My mother in law sat with him today and he passed around 2:30. She told me the rest of the cats in the house came and sat in a circle around him, almost like a vigil. Orlando has slept near him for the last several days and through the night. I hope now Casper is in a place where there is no more feline leukemia and he can run free and watch the birds and chipmunks all he wants. Whenever I lose one of these sweet kitties they take a piece of my heart. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper
Sue so sorry that your sweet Casper lost his battle to this awful disease.I know what you mean when you say they take a little piece of your heart.I dont know how we have any heart left.Hugs to you, Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: From: Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper To: FeLV talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:28 PM I am heartbroken to say that this afternoon my sweet Casper lost his battle. He was one of the most sweet tempered cats I have ever known. He never ever bit or clawed anyone in anger, not for any reason. He used to come to bed and make bread in the middle of the night right into my stomach until I got in the habit of sleeping while holding his paws gently in my hands. He loved nothing more then to be brushed with an old blue hairbrush. In the middle of the night last night I was spending what I was pretty sure was my last few hours with him brushing him with it. He was still pushing against it with the sides of his face and purring. This morning when I left for work I told him goodbye and thanked him for coming to live with me and being such a special kitty. My mother in law sat with him today and he passed around 2:30. She told me the rest of the cats in the house came and sat in a circle around him, almost like a vigil. Orlando has slept near him for the last several days and through the night. I hope now Casper is in a place where there is no more feline leukemia and he can run free and watch the birds and chipmunks all he wants. Whenever I lose one of these sweet kitties they take a piece of my heart. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper
Sue I was saddened to read that Casper has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. Casper was loved and loved you. That's as good as it gets. He is now happily romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies with all our angels. Hugs Sharyl --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: From: Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper To: FeLV talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:28 PM I am heartbroken to say that this afternoon my sweet Casper lost his battle. He was one of the most sweet tempered cats I have ever known. He never ever bit or clawed anyone in anger, not for any reason. He used to come to bed and make bread in the middle of the night right into my stomach until I got in the habit of sleeping while holding his paws gently in my hands. He loved nothing more then to be brushed with an old blue hairbrush. In the middle of the night last night I was spending what I was pretty sure was my last few hours with him brushing him with it. He was still pushing against it with the sides of his face and purring. This morning when I left for work I told him goodbye and thanked him for coming to live with me and being such a special kitty. My mother in law sat with him today and he passed around 2:30. She told me the rest of the cats in the house came and sat in a circle around him, almost like a vigil. Orlando has slept near him for the last several days and through the night. I hope now Casper is in a place where there is no more feline leukemia and he can run free and watch the birds and chipmunks all he wants. Whenever I lose one of these sweet kitties they take a piece of my heart. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Goodbye, Olive...
Megan, You did all you could. Olive knew that. take care, tonya Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, I had to resort to PTS. It was probably the toughest decision of my life--or at least, the second toughest, the first being to decide to let Olive go in the first place. I spent most of the day yesterday and today with her, and it was miserable watching her fade away. My roommate and I sat by her for hours today. I kept thinking she was about to go, that she'd take one last looking like she'd already passed. At one point she looked like she was really gone, aside from the very slight rising of her chest, and then she rolled over and stretched out, almost as if she were alright... it was heartbreaking. This morning I had thought about trying to save her, but in my heart I feel that it would have done more harm than good. Perhaps there was a slight chance I truly could have saved her and reversed the anemia--but I have a feeling it wouldn't have worked out that way, and I didn't want to put Olive through more suffering. She was too young to succumb to this, but if I had tried to keep her alive, I feel that it would've been out of my own selfish reasons. I will miss her so much, but I am glad that she went out easy. I am sorry that I could not give her a longer life, but at least the one she had was a great one. She was one of the best kitties ever. The vet called me this afternoon asking for an update, and I told him of my decision, but that I still didn't know which way to go about it. He told me he'd be at the clinic for about 20 more minutes, so I told him I might call back. After discussing it with my roommate and boyfriend, I called back. It was terrible. But at least Olive got to enjoy a last meal of tuna before parting this world. She'd not eaten in a while, and I was happy to see her gobble up quite a bit of it. Here are some photos of Olive, if you're interested: http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive2.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/babyolive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/kittens.JPG (Juniper on left, Kudzu on right) She was not very photogenic, so I don't have many good photos of her... Thank you guys for all of your help. I did not mean to come off as ungrateful in one of my previous emails. I was in so much pain, and so confused. I'm feeling better now, because I know I did the right thing, as awful as it was. I wish you and all your kitties good luck. I may eventually leave this list, as I should hopefully no longer have use of it for some time being... But I'll stay on for a bit. Thank you, everyone, so much. -Megan
RE: Goodbye, Olive...
Megan, I'm so sad to hear about Olive, but she's at peace and you can be too. Sometimes the hardest part is not knowing. It's easier to know what's going to happen-good or bad. Then we can deal with it-it's the not knowing part that's so hard. Now that this hardest part is over, you can heal and come to terms with the situation. I loved the pictures of Olive-thanks for sharing. She was very beautiful! I no longer have an FeLV kitty, but I still read and post on this site mainly because I want to open a sanctuary someday, and I want to know as much as I can about FeLV and how to treat it. Of course I can't afford to open a sanctuary now, but someday. So, you could stay on this list if you want. Sometimes it's just nice to know you have friends out there. Unfortunately, my posts tend to be off-topic since I'm not treating an FeLV kitty, but I'm still able to learn quite a bit from these guys. Best of luck in school! I certainly miss taking and teaching classes. I might need to sign up for a class for fun to take care of my school-addiction! The workplace is so overrated. Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Megan Heikkinen Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:56 PM To: felvtalk Subject: Goodbye, Olive... Unfortunately, I had to resort to PTS. It was probably the toughest decision of my life--or at least, the second toughest, the first being to decide to let Olive go in the first place. I spent most of the day yesterday and today with her, and it was miserable watching her fade away. My roommate and I sat by her for hours today. I kept thinking she was about to go, that she'd take one last looking like she'd already passed. At one point she looked like she was really gone, aside from the very slight rising of her chest, and then she rolled over and stretched out, almost as if she were alright... it was heartbreaking. This morning I had thought about trying to save her, but in my heart I feel that it would have done more harm than good. Perhaps there was a slight chance I truly could have saved her and reversed the anemia--but I have a feeling it wouldn't have worked out that way, and I didn't want to put Olive through more suffering. She was too young to succumb to this, but if I had tried to keep her alive, I feel that it would've been out of my own selfish reasons. I will miss her so much, but I am glad that she went out easy. I am sorry that I could not give her a longer life, but at least the one she had was a great one. She was one of the best kitties ever. The vet called me this afternoon asking for an update, and I told him of my decision, but that I still didn't know which way to go about it. He told me he'd be at the clinic for about 20 more minutes, so I told him I might call back. After discussing it with my roommate and boyfriend, I called back. It was terrible. But at least Olive got to enjoy a last meal of tuna before parting this world. She'd not eaten in a while, and I was happy to see her gobble up quite a bit of it. Here are some photos of Olive, if you're interested: http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive2.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/babyolive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/kittens.JPG (Juniper on left, Kudzu on right) She was not very photogenic, so I don't have many good photos of her... Thank you guys for all of your help. I did not mean to come off as ungrateful in one of my previous emails. I was in so much pain, and so confused. I'm feeling better now, because I know I did the right thing, as awful as it was. I wish you and all your kitties good luck. I may eventually leave this list, as I should hopefully no longer have use of it for some time being... But I'll stay on for a bit. Thank you, everyone, so much. -Megan
Re: Goodbye, Olive...
Hang around a while. The support here is great and you sound like you really need it. Olive is beautiful and very grateful that you loved her and took good care of her. Let her visit you and calm you.just ask her to drop in one night while you are asleep and receptive to her. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:56 PM Subject: Goodbye, Olive... Unfortunately, I had to resort to PTS. It was probably the toughest decision of my life--or at least, the second toughest, the first being to decide to let Olive go in the first place. I spent most of the day yesterday and today with her, and it was miserable watching her fade away. My roommate and I sat by her for hours today. I kept thinking she was about to go, that she'd take one last looking like she'd already passed. At one point she looked like she was really gone, aside from the very slight rising of her chest, and then she rolled over and stretched out, almost as if she were alright... it was heartbreaking. This morning I had thought about trying to save her, but in my heart I feel that it would have done more harm than good. Perhaps there was a slight chance I truly could have saved her and reversed the anemia--but I have a feeling it wouldn't have worked out that way, and I didn't want to put Olive through more suffering. She was too young to succumb to this, but if I had tried to keep her alive, I feel that it would've been out of my own selfish reasons. I will miss her so much, but I am glad that she went out easy. I am sorry that I could not give her a longer life, but at least the one she had was a great one. She was one of the best kitties ever. The vet called me this afternoon asking for an update, and I told him of my decision, but that I still didn't know which way to go about it. He told me he'd be at the clinic for about 20 more minutes, so I told him I might call back. After discussing it with my roommate and boyfriend, I called back. It was terrible. But at least Olive got to enjoy a last meal of tuna before parting this world. She'd not eaten in a while, and I was happy to see her gobble up quite a bit of it. Here are some photos of Olive, if you're interested: http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive2.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/babyolive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/kittens.JPG (Juniper on left, Kudzu on right) She was not very photogenic, so I don't have many good photos of her... Thank you guys for all of your help. I did not mean to come off as ungrateful in one of my previous emails. I was in so much pain, and so confused. I'm feeling better now, because I know I did the right thing, as awful as it was. I wish you and all your kitties good luck. I may eventually leave this list, as I should hopefully no longer have use of it for some time being... But I'll stay on for a bit. Thank you, everyone, so much. -Megan
Re: Goodbye, Olive...
I'm so sorry, Megan. She was a very lucky cat to have you. And we are all so blessed to have them in our lives for the short time that we do. Please take care of yourself. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:56 PM Subject: Goodbye, Olive... Unfortunately, I had to resort to PTS. It was probably the toughest decision of my life--or at least, the second toughest, the first being to decide to let Olive go in the first place. I spent most of the day yesterday and today with her, and it was miserable watching her fade away. My roommate and I sat by her for hours today. I kept thinking she was about to go, that she'd take one last looking like she'd already passed. At one point she looked like she was really gone, aside from the very slight rising of her chest, and then she rolled over and stretched out, almost as if she were alright... it was heartbreaking. This morning I had thought about trying to save her, but in my heart I feel that it would have done more harm than good. Perhaps there was a slight chance I truly could have saved her and reversed the anemia--but I have a feeling it wouldn't have worked out that way, and I didn't want to put Olive through more suffering. She was too young to succumb to this, but if I had tried to keep her alive, I feel that it would've been out of my own selfish reasons. I will miss her so much, but I am glad that she went out easy. I am sorry that I could not give her a longer life, but at least the one she had was a great one. She was one of the best kitties ever. The vet called me this afternoon asking for an update, and I told him of my decision, but that I still didn't know which way to go about it. He told me he'd be at the clinic for about 20 more minutes, so I told him I might call back. After discussing it with my roommate and boyfriend, I called back. It was terrible. But at least Olive got to enjoy a last meal of tuna before parting this world. She'd not eaten in a while, and I was happy to see her gobble up quite a bit of it. Here are some photos of Olive, if you're interested: http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive2.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/babyolive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/kittens.JPG (Juniper on left, Kudzu on right) She was not very photogenic, so I don't have many good photos of her... Thank you guys for all of your help. I did not mean to come off as ungrateful in one of my previous emails. I was in so much pain, and so confused. I'm feeling better now, because I know I did the right thing, as awful as it was. I wish you and all your kitties good luck. I may eventually leave this list, as I should hopefully no longer have use of it for some time being... But I'll stay on for a bit. Thank you, everyone, so much. -Megan
Re: Goodbye, Olive...
Ahhh, a beautiful little tuxie girl. Siamese tuxies, my favorites. :) Tuxies are all dressed up in their party clothes all the time.. But I love them all. Thank you for sharing her photos w/us. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:56 PM Subject: Goodbye, Olive... Unfortunately, I had to resort to PTS. It was probably the toughest decision of my life--or at least, the second toughest, the first being to decide to let Olive go in the first place. I spent most of the day yesterday and today with her, and it was miserable watching her fade away. My roommate and I sat by her for hours today. I kept thinking she was about to go, that she'd take one last looking like she'd already passed. At one point she looked like she was really gone, aside from the very slight rising of her chest, and then she rolled over and stretched out, almost as if she were alright... it was heartbreaking. This morning I had thought about trying to save her, but in my heart I feel that it would have done more harm than good. Perhaps there was a slight chance I truly could have saved her and reversed the anemia--but I have a feeling it wouldn't have worked out that way, and I didn't want to put Olive through more suffering. She was too young to succumb to this, but if I had tried to keep her alive, I feel that it would've been out of my own selfish reasons. I will miss her so much, but I am glad that she went out easy. I am sorry that I could not give her a longer life, but at least the one she had was a great one. She was one of the best kitties ever. The vet called me this afternoon asking for an update, and I told him of my decision, but that I still didn't know which way to go about it. He told me he'd be at the clinic for about 20 more minutes, so I told him I might call back. After discussing it with my roommate and boyfriend, I called back. It was terrible. But at least Olive got to enjoy a last meal of tuna before parting this world. She'd not eaten in a while, and I was happy to see her gobble up quite a bit of it. Here are some photos of Olive, if you're interested: http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive2.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/babyolive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/kittens.JPG (Juniper on left, Kudzu on right) She was not very photogenic, so I don't have many good photos of her... Thank you guys for all of your help. I did not mean to come off as ungrateful in one of my previous emails. I was in so much pain, and so confused. I'm feeling better now, because I know I did the right thing, as awful as it was. I wish you and all your kitties good luck. I may eventually leave this list, as I should hopefully no longer have use of it for some time being... But I'll stay on for a bit. Thank you, everyone, so much. -Megan
Re: Goodbye, Olive...
I am so sorry Megan. It is heartbreaking. Olive was lucky to have found you to experience your love and care. She was a beautiful kittie. Jane tunately, I had to resort to PTS. It was probably the toughest decision of my life--or at least, the second toughest, the first being to decide to let Olive go in the first place. I spent most of the day yesterday and today with her, and it was miserable watching her fade away. My roommate and I sat by her for hours today. I kept thinking she was about to go, that she'd take one last looking like she'd already passed. At one point she looked like she was really gone, aside from the very slight rising of her chest, and then she rolled over and stretched out, almost as if she were alright... it was heartbreaking. This morning I had thought about trying to save her, but in my heart I feel that it would have done more harm than good. Perhaps there was a slight chance I truly could have saved her and reversed the anemia--but I have a feeling it wouldn't have worked out that way, and I didn't want to put Olive through more suffering. She was too young to succumb to this, but if I had tried to keep her alive, I feel that it would've been out of my own selfish reasons. I will miss her so much, but I am glad that she went out easy. I am sorry that I could not give her a longer life, but at least the one she had was a great one. She was one of the best kitties ever. The vet called me this afternoon asking for an update, and I told him of my decision, but that I still didn't know which way to go about it. He told me he'd be at the clinic for about 20 more minutes, so I told him I might call back. After discussing it with my roommate and boyfriend, I called back. It was terrible. But at least Olive got to enjoy a last meal of tuna before parting this world. She'd not eaten in a while, and I was happy to see her gobble up quite a bit of it. Here are some photos of Olive, if you're interested: http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive2.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/babyolive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/kittens.JPG (Juniper on left, Kudzu on right) She was not very photogenic, so I don't have many good photos of her... Thank you guys for all of your help. I did not mean to come off as ungrateful in one of my previous emails. I was in so much pain, and so confused. I'm feeling better now, because I know I did the right thing, as awful as it was. I wish you and all your kitties good luck. I may eventually leave this list, as I should hopefully no longer have use of it for some time being... But I'll stay on for a bit. Thank you, everyone, so much. -Megan When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 __ __ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: Goodbye, Olive...
Megan, I'm so sorry. She was a beautiful little girl. It is so unfair. Her siblings are very beautiful too. Make sure you give them extra vitamins and iron just to make sure they stay strong. I think it is very lucky they have tested negative. This means they did not contract this disease through their mom. You have been a great joy to me, just because it is so wonderful to see a person so full of love and compassion. People like the people here on this list do restore my faith in people. There is so much unkindness in this world. Hearing about how all this has ended did break my heart. My eyes get cleaned out every morning here...I know we were all hoping so badly everything would turn out perfect. Your other little guys deserve your attention now. I'm sure this has been awful for them too. You have learned so much here ,as have we all. You have also made a lot of friends. I'm sure you will always be able to find a friend here who will remember you. I really loved your pictures! They were very easy to access too! Thank you Megan. Now it is back to thinking about school. You will have a wonderful life. Sending our love and best wishes always, Glenda and family --- Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, I had to resort to PTS. It was probably the toughest decision of my life--or at least, the second toughest, the first being to decide to let Olive go in the first place. I spent most of the day yesterday and today with her, and it was miserable watching her fade away. My roommate and I sat by her for hours today. I kept thinking she was about to go, that she'd take one last looking like she'd already passed. At one point she looked like she was really gone, aside from the very slight rising of her chest, and then she rolled over and stretched out, almost as if she were alright... it was heartbreaking. This morning I had thought about trying to save her, but in my heart I feel that it would have done more harm than good. Perhaps there was a slight chance I truly could have saved her and reversed the anemia--but I have a feeling it wouldn't have worked out that way, and I didn't want to put Olive through more suffering. She was too young to succumb to this, but if I had tried to keep her alive, I feel that it would've been out of my own selfish reasons. I will miss her so much, but I am glad that she went out easy. I am sorry that I could not give her a longer life, but at least the one she had was a great one. She was one of the best kitties ever. The vet called me this afternoon asking for an update, and I told him of my decision, but that I still didn't know which way to go about it. He told me he'd be at the clinic for about 20 more minutes, so I told him I might call back. After discussing it with my roommate and boyfriend, I called back. It was terrible. But at least Olive got to enjoy a last meal of tuna before parting this world. She'd not eaten in a while, and I was happy to see her gobble up quite a bit of it. Here are some photos of Olive, if you're interested: http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive2.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/babyolive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/kittens.JPG (Juniper on left, Kudzu on right) She was not very photogenic, so I don't have many good photos of her... Thank you guys for all of your help. I did not mean to come off as ungrateful in one of my previous emails. I was in so much pain, and so confused. I'm feeling better now, because I know I did the right thing, as awful as it was. I wish you and all your kitties good luck. I may eventually leave this list, as I should hopefully no longer have use of it for some time being... But I'll stay on for a bit. Thank you, everyone, so much. -Megan Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
RE: Goodbye, Olive...
Oh megan, My heart breaks for you. Little Olive was indeed a beautiful girl as her siblings. She is out of pain. May your heart heal fast and memories always fill your heart with absolute love. kayte and Crackers ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Goodbye, Olive...
Unfortunately, I had to resort to PTS. It was probably the toughest decision of my life--or at least, the second toughest, the first being to decide to let Olive go in the first place. I spent most of the day yesterday and today with her, and it was miserable watching her fade away. My roommate and I sat by her for hours today. I kept thinking she was about to go, that she'd take one last looking like she'd already passed. At one point she looked like she was really gone, aside from the very slight rising of her chest, and then she rolled over and stretched out, almost as if she were alright... it was heartbreaking. This morning I had thought about trying to save her, but in my heart I feel that it would have done more harm than good. Perhaps there was a slight chance I truly could have saved her and reversed the anemia--but I have a feeling it wouldn't have worked out that way, and I didn't want to put Olive through more suffering. She was too young to succumb to this, but if I had tried to keep her alive, I feel that it would've been out of my own selfish reasons. I will miss her so much, but I am glad that she went out easy. I am sorry that I could not give her a longer life, but at least the one she had was a great one. She was one of the best kitties ever. The vet called me this afternoon asking for an update, and I told him of my decision, but that I still didn't know which way to go about it. He told me he'd be at the clinic for about 20 more minutes, so I told him I might call back. After discussing it with my roommate and boyfriend, I called back. It was terrible. But at least Olive got to enjoy a last meal of tuna before parting this world. She'd not eaten in a while, and I was happy to see her gobble up quite a bit of it. Here are some photos of Olive, if you're interested: http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive2.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/babyolive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/kittens.JPG (Juniper on left, Kudzu on right) She was not very photogenic, so I don't have many good photos of her... Thank you guys for all of your help. I did not mean to come off as ungrateful in one of my previous emails. I was in so much pain, and so confused. I'm feeling better now, because I know I did the right thing, as awful as it was. I wish you and all your kitties good luck. I may eventually leave this list, as I should hopefully no longer have use of it for some time being... But I'll stay on for a bit. Thank you, everyone, so much. -Megan
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I am so sorry..I was watching these threads to see how things went with Olive bec. I am dealing something similar right now. But the fact that you struggled and finally arrived at PTS simply says that you cared enough to make the best decision and sometimes PTS is the best choice. Olive most likely would not have recovered although I know that some folks here have had success dealing with anemia, I never have. Olive at least had the opportunity to be loved and cared for, even for a short time, so many cats and especially, FeLV+ never have that chance. Don't be sad too long. tracy
RE: Goodbye, Olive...
Olive was a beautiful little cat! The baby picture is great. Remember her like that.
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Megan, I'm so sorry. She's beautiful and your love for her has come through all of your message loud and clear. GLOW to light her path and ease your heart. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message From: Megan Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:56:23 PM Subject: Goodbye, Olive... Unfortunately, I had to resort to PTS. It was probably the toughest decision of my life--or at least, the second toughest, the first being to decide to let Olive go in the first place. I spent most of the day yesterday and today with her, and it was miserable watching her fade away. My roommate and I sat by her for hours today. I kept thinking she was about to go, that she'd take one last looking like she'd already passed. At one point she looked like she was really gone, aside from the very slight rising of her chest, and then she rolled over and stretched out, almost as if she were alright... it was heartbreaking. This morning I had thought about trying to save her, but in my heart I feel that it would have done more harm than good. Perhaps there was a slight chance I truly could have saved her and reversed the anemia--but I have a feeling it wouldn't have worked out that way, and I didn't want to put Olive through more suffering. She was too young to succumb to this, but if I had tried to keep her alive, I feel that it would've been out of my own selfish reasons. I will miss her so much, but I am glad that she went out easy. I am sorry that I could not give her a longer life, but at least the one she had was a great one. She was one of the best kitties ever. The vet called me this afternoon asking for an update, and I told him of my decision, but that I still didn't know which way to go about it. He told me he'd be at the clinic for about 20 more minutes, so I told him I might call back. After discussing it with my roommate and boyfriend, I called back. It was terrible. But at least Olive got to enjoy a last meal of tuna before parting this world. She'd not eaten in a while, and I was happy to see her gobble up quite a bit of it. Here are some photos of Olive, if you're interested: http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/olive2.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/babyolive.JPG http://web.utk.edu/~mheikkin/kittens.JPG (Juniper on left, Kudzu on right) She was not very photogenic, so I don't have many good photos of her... Thank you guys for all of your help. I did not mean to come off as ungrateful in one of my previous emails. I was in so much pain, and so confused. I'm feeling better now, because I know I did the right thing, as awful as it was. I wish you and all your kitties good luck. I may eventually leave this list, as I should hopefully no longer have use of it for some time being... But I'll stay on for a bit. Thank you, everyone, so much. -Megan Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: goodbye.
Ya know what? I don't mind repeating things! Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation. On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Jane Lyons wrote: I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come back. Love ya M.C. elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori, shakiti, othello On 7/1/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Jane, I am so glad MeMe is improved! Give her a little kiss for me :) Gina Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come back. Love ya M.C. elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori, shakiti, othello On 7/1/07, MaryChristine wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
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I know I haven't been on here much in awhile so I don't really know what is going on at this point..But if it weren't for the people on this list Bandy and I would'nt have made it as far as we did. I agree that this list should be for the purpose of us sharing our knowledge about what we have each been through with our Felv, fip, and fiv kitties...Each and everyone of us get a different response with our kitties but with all the knowledge on this list, it gives us much more hope and many more things to try for our kitties.. I have been on many other lists while Bandy was with me, but I learned more right here than anywhere else...the people on this list are more caring and pull together when needed..It, to me, has been like one big family so I really hope it will stay that way..I try to read when I can. I hope all the group will stay as I have known it since 2005. I will always be available to help when I can.. Kerry, Angel Bandy, Angel Buster, Angel Lil Rascal, Angel Alberta, Angel Albert, Angel Striper, Angel Snoopy, and Inky and all the young ones..too many to list. - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.
goodbye.
enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come back. Love ya M.C. elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori, shakiti, othello On 7/1/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Dear MC, lI'm not THAT active on this list anymore- too much cat/dog stuff to do I guess. But sure am sorry that you feel a need to leave - it's always been such a great group, none of the supersensitive/squabble stuff on some other lists, none of the rigid control by moderators, always caring - as it should be. I know where you are though :) Gloria At 02:22 PM 7/1/2007, MaryChristine wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: goodbye.
I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come back. Love ya M.C. elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori, shakiti, othello On 7/1/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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A, thanks Jane for the story on MeMe (what a cute name!). I bet she is adorable and if I could just give her squeeze through cyberspace :) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe)
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I'm sure I am repeating myself but please try the Brush Away from Petzlife as well as Just Born with colostrum. A lady on the stomatitis board thinks extremely highly of it and so do I. I have human friends who use colostrum and it has really improved their healing ability and immune system. One example is a 70s + lady with a broken bone who healed like a 10 year old. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come back. Love ya M.C. elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori, shakiti, othello On 7/1/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Agreed, I feel very sad about this - MC has been a wonderful member for quite a while, and a wealth of good information. We've had a great group for so long. There are many times that we need to be gentle with each other. Need to remember that all we see here are typed messages, and there's lots more going on with each one than that. But I'm glad you're here and think things will settle down. Glad to hear about MeME. I have a sick Li Won (mouth), Toby (mouth), Rufus(diabetes) and Hambone(uri and whatever) - none are FELV however. Wondering what you did for the stomatitis...? Gloria - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jane Lyons To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe)
Re: goodbye. MC ~ please read if you are still around
I agree with Jane. I have been here a week or less and already rely on this group. My Isabella isn't doing so well and I need the help. MC you have been a great resource already. Please, can we put principles above personalities and focus on the felines we are here to help? Just a suggestion. I wish everyone the best, Laurie - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come back. Love ya M.C. elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori, shakiti, othello On 7/1/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: stomatitis/colostrum , was goodbye.
Repeating is good sometimes - thanks much - Gloria At 04:06 PM 7/1/2007, you wrote: I'm sure I am repeating myself but please try the Brush Away from Petzlife as well as Just Born with colostrum. A lady on the stomatitis board thinks extremely highly of it and so do I. I have human friends who use colostrum and it has really improved their healing ability and immune system. One example is a 70s + lady with a broken bone who healed like a 10 year old. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jane Lyons To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come back. Love ya M.C. elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori, shakiti, othello On 7/1/07, ?fontfamily?param HelveticaMaryChristine?/fontfamily ?color?param ,,[EMAIL PROTECTED]?/color wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: ?color?param ,,[EMAIL PROTECTED]?/color ICQ: 289856892
Re: goodbye. MC ~ please read if you are still around
At 02:15 PM 7/1/2007, you wrote: For those of us belonging to many forums this is perhaps the most informative and the saddest with continual loses. All families argue..and the best thing we can do is to send our private discussions in a private email. that way our insults can be directed at the proper persons This a very informative knowledgeable group and so supportive,,, We are all different in many aspects. many call the powers of their god to help,, Me, an atheist do not do god,,or animal communicators. but the most important thing is WE ALL LOVE AND CARE FOR OUR FELINE FRIENDS ...we are all here for each other. this a good place Kelly I agree with Jane. I have been here a week or less and already rely on this group. My Isabella isn't doing so well and I need the help. MC you have been a great resource already. Please, can we put principles above personalities and focus on the felines we are here to help? Just a suggestion. I wish everyone the best, Laurie - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jane Lyons To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come back. Love ya M.C. elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori, shakiti, othello On 7/1/07, ?fontfamily?param HelveticaMaryChristine?/fontfamily ?color?param ,,[EMAIL PROTECTED]?/color wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: ?color?param ,,[EMAIL PROTECTED]?/color ICQ: 289856892 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 0.0.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/875 - Release Date: 6/27/2007 9:08 PM
Re: goodbye AKAS Stomatitis
So, how much of the Just Born to you feed them? I mean, I know it won't hurt them, and it comes in little cartons a powder form too. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm sure I am repeating myself but please try the Brush Away from Petzlife as well as Just Born with colostrum. A lady on the stomatitis board thinks extremely highly of it and so do I. I have human friends who use colostrum and it has really improved their healing ability and immune system. One example is a 70s + lady with a broken bone who healed like a 10 year old. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis .
Re: goodbye AKAS Stomatitis
When I give it to Dixie I mix a couple of scoops in her food. That amounts to about a scoop a meal. There are some directions on the can for infirmed and pregnant cats. To be honest, sometimes--most of the time--I go by what feels right at that time on that day etc. And it can't hurt but I watch her weight (by feel not by scales) to make sure she isn't getting too many calories. The way she burns them up running from window to window I have had no problem but I am aware of the extra calories involved. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:27 PM Subject: Re: goodbye AKAS Stomatitis So, how much of the Just Born to you feed them? I mean, I know it won't hurt them, and it comes in little cartons a powder form too. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm sure I am repeating myself but please try the Brush Away from Petzlife as well as Just Born with colostrum. A lady on the stomatitis board thinks extremely highly of it and so do I. I have human friends who use colostrum and it has really improved their healing ability and immune system. One example is a 70s + lady with a broken bone who healed like a 10 year old. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis .
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MC -- you hard headed woman ... get yourself back on here before I have to come up there with a big can of you know what!.. elizabeth in alabama...phelix, antonio,tiffy, alexsis, tori, shaktit,othello... On 7/1/07, Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, I feel very sad about this - MC has been a wonderful member for quite a while, and a wealth of good information. We've had a great group for so long. There are many times that we need to be gentle with each other. Need to remember that all we see here are typed messages, and there's lots more going on with each one than that. But I'm glad you're here and think things will settle down. Glad to hear about MeME. I have a sick Li Won (mouth), Toby (mouth), Rufus(diabetes) and Hambone(uri and whatever) - none are FELV however. Wondering what you did for the stomatitis...? Gloria - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jane Lyons To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe)
Re: goodbye. MC ~ please read if you are still around
I've already told MC she's being a butt...I hope she comes back because we need her. e. On 7/1/07, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Jane. I have been here a week or less and already rely on this group. My Isabella isn't doing so well and I need the help. MC you have been a great resource already. Please, can we put principles above personalities and focus on the felines we are here to help? Just a suggestion. I wish everyone the best, Laurie - Original Message - *From:* Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, July 01, 2007 2:34 PM *Subject:* Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come back. Love ya M.C. elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori, shakiti, othello On 7/1/07, *MaryChristine* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: goodbye. MC ~ please read if you are still around
As a person who firmly believes in her God and in animal communications I have to second Kelly's comments. It is truly about the cats and support. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. MC ~ please read if you are still around At 02:15 PM 7/1/2007, you wrote: For those of us belonging to many forums this is perhaps the most informative and the saddest with continual loses. All families argue..and the best thing we can do is to send our private discussions in a private email. that way our insults can be directed at the proper persons This a very informative knowledgeable group and so supportive,,, We are all different in many aspects. many call the powers of their god to help,, Me, an atheist do not do god,,or animal communicators. but the most important thing is WE ALL LOVE AND CARE FOR OUR FELINE FRIENDS ...we are all here for each other. this a good place Kelly I agree with Jane. I have been here a week or less and already rely on this group. My Isabella isn't doing so well and I need the help. MC you have been a great resource already. Please, can we put principles above personalities and focus on the felines we are here to help? Just a suggestion. I wish everyone the best, Laurie - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, elizabeth trent wrote: Maybe when you stop being an air head and an @$$ you will come back. Love ya M.C. elizabeth in alabama, phelix, antonio, tiffany, lexie, tori, shakiti, othello On 7/1/07, ?fontfamily?param HelveticaMaryChristine?/fontfamily ?color?param ,,[EMAIL PROTECTED]?/color wrote: enough. if you want to talk with me, you know where i am. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: ?color?param ,,[EMAIL PROTECTED]?/color ICQ: 289856892 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 0.0.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/875 - Release Date: 6/27/2007 9:08 PM
Re: goodbye.
What is going on here? I didn't even know there were 2 lists. So many hot headed folks lately. I know I am fairly new, but You all helped me an awful lot with KI. Just the support alone meant so much. Gloria, I am pretty good with the mouth thing...have a diabetic, too, unless you are already involved with a list for that. Dede --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MC -- you hard headed woman ... get yourself back on here before I have to come up there with a big can of you know what!.. elizabeth in alabama...phelix, antonio,tiffy, alexsis, tori, shaktit,othello... On 7/1/07, Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, I feel very sad about this - MC has been a wonderful member for quite a while, and a wealth of good information. We've had a great group for so long. There are many times that we need to be gentle with each other. Need to remember that all we see here are typed messages, and there's lots more going on with each one than that. But I'm glad you're here and think things will settle down. Glad to hear about MeME. I have a sick Li Won (mouth), Toby (mouth), Rufus(diabetes) and Hambone(uri and whatever) - none are FELV however. Wondering what you did for the stomatitis...? Gloria - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jane Lyons To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
Re: goodbye AKAS Stomatitis
That makes sense, read the can, Susan. :) I should have remembered that, there are instructions on the back for adults. And w/ as many bottle kittens as I have nursed, I really should have known that. This is the first year that I have not taken in bottle babies in many years. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: Re: goodbye AKAS Stomatitis When I give it to Dixie I mix a couple of scoops in her food. That amounts to about a scoop a meal. There are some directions on the can for infirmed and pregnant cats. To be honest, sometimes--most of the time--I go by what feels right at that time on that day etc. And it can't hurt but I watch her weight (by feel not by scales) to make sure she isn't getting too many calories. The way she burns them up running from window to window I have had no problem but I am aware of the extra calories involved. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis
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That wasn't meant to be smart and I hope no one took it that way. There are just some decisions a person has to make with more information than my personal opinion. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: Re: goodbye AKAS Stomatitis That makes sense, read the can, Susan. :) I should have remembered that, there are instructions on the back for adults. And w/ as many bottle kittens as I have nursed, I really should have known that. This is the first year that I have not taken in bottle babies in many years. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: Re: goodbye AKAS Stomatitis When I give it to Dixie I mix a couple of scoops in her food. That amounts to about a scoop a meal. There are some directions on the can for infirmed and pregnant cats. To be honest, sometimes--most of the time--I go by what feels right at that time on that day etc. And it can't hurt but I watch her weight (by feel not by scales) to make sure she isn't getting too many calories. The way she burns them up running from window to window I have had no problem but I am aware of the extra calories involved. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis
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Please post any mouth information. That was Dixie's only symptom and, while I am satisfied it is under control, I would appreciate anything that might help keep it that way. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:21 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. What is going on here? I didn't even know there were 2 lists. So many hot headed folks lately. I know I am fairly new, but You all helped me an awful lot with KI. Just the support alone meant so much. Gloria, I am pretty good with the mouth thing...have a diabetic, too, unless you are already involved with a list for that. Dede --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MC -- you hard headed woman ... get yourself back on here before I have to come up there with a big can of you know what!.. elizabeth in alabama...phelix, antonio,tiffy, alexsis, tori, shaktit,othello... On 7/1/07, Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, I feel very sad about this - MC has been a wonderful member for quite a while, and a wealth of good information. We've had a great group for so long. There are many times that we need to be gentle with each other. Need to remember that all we see here are typed messages, and there's lots more going on with each one than that. But I'm glad you're here and think things will settle down. Glad to hear about MeME. I have a sick Li Won (mouth), Toby (mouth), Rufus(diabetes) and Hambone(uri and whatever) - none are FELV however. Wondering what you did for the stomatitis...? Gloria - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jane Lyons To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
OT: Re: mouth and diabetes -Dede - (was goodbye.)
Nope - I've a little exp with diabetic, but not must. For the mouth - one got a dex shot (19 yr old siamese) as depo can be hard on the kidneys. I'm going to find my colostrum or lactoferrin and try that. The other mouth one had a depo shot, but not as effective as last time. Giving him vitamins. The diabetic - vet prescribed Lantus. And Science Diet W/D. Seems better after just a weekend of W/D. I won't start the Lantus till Monday, when the vet office is open (just in case). Am somewhat concerned about it hmmm. Gloria At 05:21 PM 7/1/2007, you wrote: What is going on here? I didn't even know there were 2 lists. So many hot headed folks lately. I know I am fairly new, but You all helped me an awful lot with KI. Just the support alone meant so much. Gloria, I am pretty good with the mouth thing...have a diabetic, too, unless you are already involved with a list for that. Dede --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MC -- you hard headed woman ... get yourself back on here before I have to come up there with a big can of you know what!.. elizabeth in alabama...phelix, antonio,tiffy, alexsis, tori, shaktit,othello... On 7/1/07, Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, I feel very sad about this - MC has been a wonderful member for quite a while, and a wealth of good information. We've had a great group for so long. There are many times that we need to be gentle with each other. Need to remember that all we see here are typed messages, and there's lots more going on with each one than that. But I'm glad you're here and think things will settle down. Glad to hear about MeME. I have a sick Li Won (mouth), Toby (mouth), Rufus(diabetes) and Hambone(uri and whatever) - none are FELV however. Wondering what you did for the stomatitis...? Gloria - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jane Lyons To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
Re: goodbye.
Me too about two lists...what is the other one?? - Original Message - From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. What is going on here? I didn't even know there were 2 lists. So many hot headed folks lately. I know I am fairly new, but You all helped me an awful lot with KI. Just the support alone meant so much. Gloria, I am pretty good with the mouth thing...have a diabetic, too, unless you are already involved with a list for that. Dede --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MC -- you hard headed woman ... get yourself back on here before I have to come up there with a big can of you know what!.. elizabeth in alabama...phelix, antonio,tiffy, alexsis, tori, shaktit,othello... On 7/1/07, Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, I feel very sad about this - MC has been a wonderful member for quite a while, and a wealth of good information. We've had a great group for so long. There are many times that we need to be gentle with each other. Need to remember that all we see here are typed messages, and there's lots more going on with each one than that. But I'm glad you're here and think things will settle down. Glad to hear about MeME. I have a sick Li Won (mouth), Toby (mouth), Rufus(diabetes) and Hambone(uri and whatever) - none are FELV however. Wondering what you did for the stomatitis...? Gloria - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jane Lyons To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
Re: goodbye....now stomatitis
As I said Marylyn, her condition is much improved, her upper gums are still red, but not as inflamed and utterly raw as they had been. Her lower gums now look completely normal. Her breath is now odorless. When we first got her it was really awful. She's been on FortiFlora which my vet was convinced would help. (I guess it is the digestive tract that really impacts the mouth) Maitake-DMG liquid (vet's recommendation) Transfer Factor (this group's recommendation) l-lycine (this group's recommendation) spring water raw diet (she will not eat anything except Fancy Feast grilled turkey) I've been mixing bits of raw into the wet food ...also I have been mixing Archetype into Fancy Feast dry and she has eaten it. she was on Panacur for the giardia. My vet ordered IR, but is holding off because she has made good progress without it. Her glands had been very swollen. One gland in particular seemed to be the size of a ping pong ball and when Caroline posted about Monkee's tumor, I thought for sure that was it. I made an appointment with my vet (who is on vacation) and just two days ago, it disappeared. All her glands are completely normal. The ping pong ball is gone. My husband has checked her over very thoroughly and he cannot find it either. So ...I do not know what did what...but she is so much better. I have been reading the Archives here and I realize that a young cat (a year old) who is as symptomatic as MeMe has been does not have great odds. I am relieved that she seems so content and comfortable. I am hoping that since her life is so improved, she'll want to stick around. Marylyn thanks for the: Brush Away from Petzlife as well as Just Born with colostrum. I will try both of them. Jane On Jul 1, 2007, at 6:38 PM, Marylyn wrote: Please post any mouth information. That was Dixie's only symptom and, while I am satisfied it is under control, I would appreciate anything that might help keep it that way. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:21 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. What is going on here? I didn't even know there were 2 lists. So many hot headed folks lately. I know I am fairly new, but You all helped me an awful lot with KI. Just the support alone meant so much. Gloria, I am pretty good with the mouth thing...have a diabetic, too, unless you are already involved with a list for that. Dede --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MC -- you hard headed woman ... get yourself back on here before I have to come up there with a big can of you know what!.. elizabeth in alabama...phelix, antonio,tiffy, alexsis, tori, shaktit,othello... On 7/1/07, Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, I feel very sad about this - MC has been a wonderful member for quite a while, and a wealth of good information. We've had a great group for so long. There are many times that we need to be gentle with each other. Need to remember that all we see here are typed messages, and there's lots more going on with each one than that. But I'm glad you're here and think things will settle down. Glad to hear about MeME. I have a sick Li Won (mouth), Toby (mouth), Rufus(diabetes) and Hambone(uri and whatever) - none are FELV however. Wondering what you did for the stomatitis...? Gloria - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jane Lyons To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot
Re: goodbye AKAS Stomatitis
Oh, I know Marylyn, I was being smart w/ myself. I had a bad day today, very stressful, so my brain is fried. I should have remembered though, and when I forget something so simple, I am rather hard on myself. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:36 PM Subject: Re: goodbye AKAS Stomatitis That wasn't meant to be smart and I hope no one took it that way. There are just some decisions a person has to make with more information than my personal opinion. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: Re: goodbye AKAS Stomatitis That makes sense, read the can, Susan. :) I should have remembered that, there are instructions on the back for adults. And w/ as many bottle kittens as I have nursed, I really should have known that. This is the first year that I have not taken in bottle babies in many years. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: Re: goodbye AKAS Stomatitis When I give it to Dixie I mix a couple of scoops in her food. That amounts to about a scoop a meal. There are some directions on the can for infirmed and pregnant cats. To be honest, sometimes--most of the time--I go by what feels right at that time on that day etc. And it can't hurt but I watch her weight (by feel not by scales) to make sure she isn't getting too many calories. The way she burns them up running from window to window I have had no problem but I am aware of the extra calories involved. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis
Re: goodbye....now stomatitis
A few days back, someone mentioned the Lysine ( I am using it, have been for quite a few months) but they said there was a bit of a protocal to follow? MaryLyn, I think you did? What is the protocal? As of now, I buy the 4lbs. tubs of Lysine that you get for horses, highly concentrated. It is much cheaper this way when you are dealing w/ the numbers that Kelly I and some others on this list are dealing with. It's just a matter of a few grains being sprinkled onto the food. Another multi cat household that I know puts it into a saltshaker and shakes it out voila! Breakfast is served...! My vet uses the same type of Lysine, his dosage is a few grains also. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: Re: goodbyenow stomatitis As I said Marylyn, her condition is much improved, her upper gums are still red, but not as inflamed and utterly raw as they had been. Her lower gums now look completely normal. Her breath is now odorless. When we first got her it was really awful. She's been on FortiFlora which my vet was convinced would help. (I guess it is the digestive tract that really impacts the mouth) Maitake-DMG liquid (vet's recommendation) Transfer Factor (this group's recommendation) l-lycine (this group's recommendation) spring water raw diet (she will not eat anything except Fancy Feast grilled turkey) I've been mixing bits of raw into the wet food ...also I have been mixing Archetype into Fancy Feast dry and she has eaten it. she was on Panacur for the giardia. My vet ordered IR, but is holding off because she has made good progress without it. Her glands had been very swollen. One gland in particular seemed to be the size of a ping pong ball and when Caroline posted about Monkee's tumor, I thought for sure that was it. I made an appointment with my vet (who is on vacation) and just two days ago, it disappeared. All her glands are completely normal. The ping pong ball is gone. My husband has checked her over very thoroughly and he cannot find it either. So ...I do not know what did what...but she is so much better. I have been reading the Archives here and I realize that a young cat (a year old) who is as symptomatic as MeMe has been does not have great odds. I am relieved that she seems so content and comfortable. I am hoping that since her life is so improved, she'll want to stick around. Marylyn thanks for the: Brush Away from Petzlife as well as Just Born with colostrum. I will try both of them. Jane
Re: OT: Re: mouth and diabetes -Dede - (was goodbye.)
OK, this is NOT about FELV, so I will respond to Gloria privately. Dede --- Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope - I've a little exp with diabetic, but not must. For the mouth - one got a dex shot (19 yr old siamese) as depo can be hard on the kidneys. I'm going to find my colostrum or lactoferrin and try that. The other mouth one had a depo shot, but not as effective as last time. Giving him vitamins. The diabetic - vet prescribed Lantus. And Science Diet W/D. Seems better after just a weekend of W/D. I won't start the Lantus till Monday, when the vet office is open (just in case). Am somewhat concerned about it hmmm. Gloria At 05:21 PM 7/1/2007, you wrote: What is going on here? I didn't even know there were 2 lists. So many hot headed folks lately. I know I am fairly new, but You all helped me an awful lot with KI. Just the support alone meant so much. Gloria, I am pretty good with the mouth thing...have a diabetic, too, unless you are already involved with a list for that. Dede --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MC -- you hard headed woman ... get yourself back on here before I have to come up there with a big can of you know what!.. elizabeth in alabama...phelix, antonio,tiffy, alexsis, tori, shaktit,othello... On 7/1/07, Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, I feel very sad about this - MC has been a wonderful member for quite a while, and a wealth of good information. We've had a great group for so long. There are many times that we need to be gentle with each other. Need to remember that all we see here are typed messages, and there's lots more going on with each one than that. But I'm glad you're here and think things will settle down. Glad to hear about MeME. I have a sick Li Won (mouth), Toby (mouth), Rufus(diabetes) and Hambone(uri and whatever) - none are FELV however. Wondering what you did for the stomatitis...? Gloria - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jane Lyons To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo
Re: goodbye....now stomatitis
I give 250 mg twice a day ~ I crush 500 mg tablets and sprinkle on canned food. Viralys is already powder form and flavored. My cats like it. the other L-lysine (human) is unflavored. There is a scoop in the Viralys but it's the same dose. If my cats are symptomatic I increase to 500mg twice a day. Laurie - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: Re: goodbyenow stomatitis A few days back, someone mentioned the Lysine ( I am using it, have been for quite a few months) but they said there was a bit of a protocal to follow? MaryLyn, I think you did? What is the protocal? As of now, I buy the 4lbs. tubs of Lysine that you get for horses, highly concentrated. It is much cheaper this way when you are dealing w/ the numbers that Kelly I and some others on this list are dealing with. It's just a matter of a few grains being sprinkled onto the food. Another multi cat household that I know puts it into a saltshaker and shakes it out voila! Breakfast is served...! My vet uses the same type of Lysine, his dosage is a few grains also. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: Re: goodbyenow stomatitis As I said Marylyn, her condition is much improved, her upper gums are still red, but not as inflamed and utterly raw as they had been. Her lower gums now look completely normal. Her breath is now odorless. When we first got her it was really awful. She's been on FortiFlora which my vet was convinced would help. (I guess it is the digestive tract that really impacts the mouth) Maitake-DMG liquid (vet's recommendation) Transfer Factor (this group's recommendation) l-lycine (this group's recommendation) spring water raw diet (she will not eat anything except Fancy Feast grilled turkey) I've been mixing bits of raw into the wet food ...also I have been mixing Archetype into Fancy Feast dry and she has eaten it. she was on Panacur for the giardia. My vet ordered IR, but is holding off because she has made good progress without it. Her glands had been very swollen. One gland in particular seemed to be the size of a ping pong ball and when Caroline posted about Monkee's tumor, I thought for sure that was it. I made an appointment with my vet (who is on vacation) and just two days ago, it disappeared. All her glands are completely normal. The ping pong ball is gone. My husband has checked her over very thoroughly and he cannot find it either. So ...I do not know what did what...but she is so much better. I have been reading the Archives here and I realize that a young cat (a year old) who is as symptomatic as MeMe has been does not have great odds. I am relieved that she seems so content and comfortable. I am hoping that since her life is so improved, she'll want to stick around. Marylyn thanks for the: Brush Away from Petzlife as well as Just Born with colostrum. I will try both of them. Jane
Re: OT: Re: mouth and diabetes -Dede - (was goodbye.)
If it's something that could be helpful to the others, respond via the list - just put the OT in the Subject. Gloria At 07:20 PM 7/1/2007, you wrote: OK, this is NOT about FELV, so I will respond to Gloria privately. Dede --- Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope - I've a little exp with diabetic, but not must. For the mouth - one got a dex shot (19 yr old siamese) as depo can be hard on the kidneys. I'm going to find my colostrum or lactoferrin and try that. The other mouth one had a depo shot, but not as effective as last time. Giving him vitamins. The diabetic - vet prescribed Lantus. And Science Diet W/D. Seems better after just a weekend of W/D. I won't start the Lantus till Monday, when the vet office is open (just in case). Am somewhat concerned about it hmmm. Gloria At 05:21 PM 7/1/2007, you wrote: What is going on here? I didn't even know there were 2 lists. So many hot headed folks lately. I know I am fairly new, but You all helped me an awful lot with KI. Just the support alone meant so much. Gloria, I am pretty good with the mouth thing...have a diabetic, too, unless you are already involved with a list for that. Dede --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MC -- you hard headed woman ... get yourself back on here before I have to come up there with a big can of you know what!.. elizabeth in alabama...phelix, antonio,tiffy, alexsis, tori, shaktit,othello... On 7/1/07, Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, I feel very sad about this - MC has been a wonderful member for quite a while, and a wealth of good information. We've had a great group for so long. There are many times that we need to be gentle with each other. Need to remember that all we see here are typed messages, and there's lots more going on with each one than that. But I'm glad you're here and think things will settle down. Glad to hear about MeME. I have a sick Li Won (mouth), Toby (mouth), Rufus(diabetes) and Hambone(uri and whatever) - none are FELV however. Wondering what you did for the stomatitis...? Gloria - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jane Lyons To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: goodbye. I'm not sure what is going on here, but for a new person (me) it is very sad since I've come to rely on this list as a lifeline for my Felv positive cat. I use two vets, one of them well known nationally, and neither of them have the knowledge and experience that you guys (collectively) have of Feline Leukemia. This is a priceless resource, especially for people like myself, who come here shell shocked and need to hear the reality from the frontline, not theory nor statistics. My little cat, who came from an over burdened colony situation, having been thrown on their porch from a moving car, is so much better and it is largely the result of the information that I got here. Also, I was so grateful to be able to express the grief and fear I initially felt, knowing I was with people who really loved their cats, and who would (hopefully) understand. It must be difficult repeating the same information over and over again, and having to adjust to a lot of personalities and dysfunction, but if the bottom line is helping cats, your time is not in vain. I came here four weeks ago with a kitten suffering from giardia, stomatitis, very badly swollen glands, constant sneezing, runny nose, diarrhea and very poor appetite. I am happy to report we now have formed stools, no swollen glands, an occasional sneeze and wet nose and a ravenous appetite. The stomatitis seems to be healed on the bottom of her mouth, although the top is still red, but not as inflamed as it had been. For the first time in her little life she seems comfortable and very content. I hope things here can be worked out. We are very grateful to all of you. Jane (and a much improved MeMe) When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 ___ _ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Finding fabulous
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Thanks! That's the dosage I have heard to use. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: Re: goodbyenow stomatitis I give 250 mg twice a day ~ I crush 500 mg tablets and sprinkle on canned food. Viralys is already powder form and flavored. My cats like it. the other L-lysine (human) is unflavored. There is a scoop in the Viralys but it's the same dose. If my cats are symptomatic I increase to 500mg twice a day. Laurie - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: Re: goodbyenow stomatitis A few days back, someone mentioned the Lysine ( I am using it, have been for quite a few months) but they said there was a bit of a protocal to follow? MaryLyn, I think you did? What is the protocal? As of now, I buy the 4lbs. tubs of Lysine that you get for horses, highly concentrated. It is much cheaper this way when you are dealing w/ the numbers that Kelly I and some others on this list are dealing with. It's just a matter of a few grains being sprinkled onto the food. Another multi cat household that I know puts it into a saltshaker and shakes it out voila! Breakfast is served...! My vet uses the same type of Lysine, his dosage is a few grains also. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent
Re: Saying Goodbye
Allie,I'm so sorry. You've done everything you could for Lola. I think it's a great idea to go ahead and take in the foster. It will probably make you feel better and keep you busy. take care, tonya.Allie Deaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I took Lola in to get re-evaluated, regarless of the fact that she has been going downhill fast. The results of the second test and bloodpanel were not nice, especially with her emerging symptoms. The fluid in her chest is continuing to accumulate, she stopped eating (Ive been syringe feeding her a high-cal prescription diet), she is very anemic and very jaundiced. Her breathing has become very labored and she isn't really moving around much. After discussions with 2 vets and quite a few other sources of research (including this list), we've decided to help her over the bridge after we've had a chance to say goodbye. She has too many things off in her bloodwork, her red blood cells appear to be committing suicide, kidney enzymes are elevated, despite my efforts (pedialyte) to keep her hydrated and her liver enzymes are high despite my efforts to keep her fed (Hill's a/d). She is so weak, and since she is a just a kitten, who was born with the disease, it looks highly unlikely that aggressive treatment would do anything except buy her a little time. I think I'm at peace with my decision. I had plans to take a foster in this weekend, which I think I'll go through with since it will give me something to do and a place to direct all of my love. Plus, what better tribute to Lola than to save the life of another cat in need? I've requested that the foster be vaccinated against FeLV this once, just to be extra careful.Thanks, everyone.Allie
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Allie bless you,and my thoughts are with you in this hard time,she will always be a part of you. sherryAllie Deaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone for all of your support. I wish, wish, wish that this could have been treated and that we could have spent more time together, but she was just a tiny kitten, and not very (physically) strong, though she was a fighter. She gave this her best shot, with all the tests and care we gave her, but unfortunately, too many things were going wrong and she began to suffer within a few weeks of diagnosis. She will go over the bridge tomorrow, in my arms. We could've treated individual symptoms, and we tried so hard for her,and I did so much research, but it wasn't meant to be.I'm looking forward to my foster kitty, because he or she will be a reminder to me of all of the life that is still out there, even if my little Lola can only be with me in spirit. I know that saving the life of another kitty, even only days after her departure, would be exactly what my sweet, graceful, loving girl would want for me and Leo (my remaining cat). I truly think that this will help me keep her loss of life in perspective, with being surrounded by a vibrant new presence in my life. I think it will remind me that Lola hasn't died, but just gone away for awhile. She will never, ever be replaced and I will miss her every single day of my life. My heart just aches because it will be a lifetime before I see those sweet gold eyes and that soft blue fur again. I love her with all my heart. Thanks again for all of your support. It really means a lot.Allie On 12/1/05, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so sorry to hear about Lola, Allie. I'm glad, though, that she was lucky enough to find you. I agree, what better tributetothe sweet soulthan to save the life of another. I think it's wonderful that you're able to transcend your grief and remember all the other needy furballs out there. So many folks I know/hear of whose kitty passed away say they won't get another one. I think that is so sad. Hugs to you and Lola. take care, Kerry-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allie DeaverSent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:58 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Saying GoodbyeWell, I took Lola in to get re-evaluated, regarless of the fact that she has been going downhill fast. The results of the second test and bloodpanel were not nice, especially with her emerging symptoms. The fluid in her chest is continuing to accumulate, she stopped eating (Ive been syringe feeding her a high-cal prescription diet), she is very anemic and very jaundiced. Her breathing has become very labored and she isn't really moving around much. After discussions with 2 vets and quite a few other sources of research (including this list), we've decided to help her over the bridge after we've had a chance to say goodbye. She has too many things off in her bloodwork, her red blood cells appear to be committing suicide, kidney enzymes are elevated, despite my efforts (pedialyte) to keep her hydrated and her liver enzymes are high despite my efforts to keep her fed (Hill's a/d). She is so weak, and since she is a just a kitten, who was born with the disease, it looks highly unlikely that aggressive treatment would do anything except buy her a little time. I think I'm at peace with my decision. I had plans to take a foster in this weekend, which I think I'll go through with since it will give me something to do and a place to direct all of my love. Plus, what better tribute to Lola than to save the life of another cat in need? I've requested that the foster be vaccinated against FeLV this once, just to be extra careful.Thanks, everyone.Allie=00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Yahoo! Personals Let fate take it's course directly to your email. See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals
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allie, i couldn't even respond to this when i first read it yesterday. thank you for so much--for your eloquence, for your compassion, for your deep understanding of how important it is to gift our furcompanions with a gentle passing when their time has come. and for the knowing that the greatest tribute we pay those who gave us so much love is to pass that on to the next needy critter just waiting for the life they so deserve. blessings on lola that her last hours will be spent with such wonderful energy, on the new kitty that will benefit from your love and all you've learned from lola and others, and on you to heal from the pain of her leaving. MC -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Allie,I'm so sorry you must part with Lola, but you must do what is best for her. Hugs,SharonAllie Deaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I took Lola in to get re-evaluated, regarless of the fact that she has been going downhill fast. The results of the second test and bloodpanel were not nice, especially with her emerging symptoms. The fluid in her chest is continuing to accumulate, she stopped eating (Ive been syringe feeding her a high-cal prescription diet), she is very anemic and very jaundiced. Her breathing has become very labored and she isn't really moving around much. After discussions with 2 vets and quite a few other sources of research (including this list), we've decided to help her over the bridge after we've had a chance to say goodbye. She has too many things off in her bloodwork, her red blood cells appear to be committing suicide, kidney enzymes are elevated, despite my efforts (pedialyte) to keep her hydrated and her liver enzymes are high despite my efforts to keep her fed (Hill's a/d). She is so weak, and since she is a just a kitten, who was born with the disease, it looks highly unlikely that aggressive treatment would do anything except buy her a little time. I think I'm at peace with my decision. I had plans to take a foster in this weekend, which I think I'll go through with since it will give me something to do and a place to direct all of my love. Plus, what better tribute to Lola than to save the life of another cat in need? I've requested that the foster be vaccinated against FeLV this once, just to be extra careful.Thanks, everyone.Allie Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
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Allie, I am so sorry that Lola is in such dire straits. You are probably making the right decision about helping her over the bridge, even though it's such a hard decision to make. But especially if she is suffering, then you are doing the right thing. I will keep you and Lola in my prayers. And you are right, what a wonderful tribute to Lola to save another kitty's life. I am sending you peace, strength, and asking for blessings for you for being such a wonderful person. Thank you for what you did for Lola, taking her in when no one else wanted her. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Sherry, What a wonderful tribute as well to Maizee Grace to help out other kitties just like her!!! You guys are amazing :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Allie, I'm so sorry about your baby Lola. Words fail me, it's so very hard to lose them. Please try to take some comfort in the fact you gave her a warm and loving home. She had someone to care for her and to care about, in that you were both blessed. Bless you for helping others, and for making your corner of the world a soft place to land. Love and sympathy, Nina Allie Deaver wrote: Well, I took Lola in to get re-evaluated, regarless of the fact that she has been going downhill fast. The results of the second test and bloodpanel were not nice, especially with her emerging symptoms. The fluid in her chest is continuing to accumulate, she stopped eating (Ive been syringe feeding her a high-cal prescription diet), she is very anemic and very jaundiced. Her breathing has become very labored and she isn't really moving around much. After discussions with 2 vets and quite a few other sources of research (including this list), we've decided to help her over the bridge after we've had a chance to say goodbye. She has too many things off in her bloodwork, her red blood cells appear to be committing suicide, kidney enzymes are elevated, despite my efforts (pedialyte) to keep her hydrated and her liver enzymes are high despite my efforts to keep her fed (Hill's a/d). She is so weak, and since she is a just a kitten, who was born with the disease, it looks highly unlikely that aggressive treatment would do anything except buy her a little time. I think I'm at peace with my decision. I had plans to take a foster in this weekend, which I think I'll go through with since it will give me something to do and a place to direct all of my love. Plus, what better tribute to Lola than to save the life of another cat in need? I've requested that the foster be vaccinated against FeLV this once, just to be extra careful. Thanks, everyone. Allie
Saying Goodbye
Well, I took Lola in to get re-evaluated, regarless of the fact that she has been going downhill fast. The results of the second test and bloodpanel were not nice, especially with her emerging symptoms. The fluid in her chest is continuing to accumulate, she stopped eating (Ive been syringe feeding her a high-cal prescription diet), she is very anemic and very jaundiced. Her breathing has become very labored and she isn't really moving around much. After discussions with 2 vets and quite a few other sources of research (including this list), we've decided to help her over the bridge after we've had a chance to say goodbye. She has too many things off in her bloodwork, her red blood cells appear to be committing suicide, kidney enzymes are elevated, despite my efforts (pedialyte) to keep her hydrated and her liver enzymes are high despite my efforts to keep her fed (Hill's a/d). She is so weak, and since she is a just a kitten, who was born with the disease, it looks highly unlikely that aggressive treatment would do anything except buy her a little time. I think I'm at peace with my decision. I had plans to take a foster in this weekend, which I think I'll go through with since it will give me something to do and a place to direct all of my love. Plus, what better tribute to Lola than to save the life of another cat in need? I've requested that the foster be vaccinated against FeLV this once, just to be extra careful. Thanks, everyone. Allie
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Allie my thoughts are with you and your Lola,it sounds like you have her best interests in mind.Good for you to foster a recue kitty,I have volunteered at a kitty rescue here,one place is healthy adoptable furbabies and the other place is for Felv pos and Fiv kitties,I just got home from my second night from the felv babies and I just love them to pieces.There are about 50 or more there and over 100 at the other.I needed something to do after work since my Maizee passed 2 weeks ago,I just hate being home,so in her honor I am helping out other sick kitties.You are in my prayers,kiss your baby for me. SherryAllie Deaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I took Lola in to get re-evaluated, regarless of the fact that she has been going downhill fast. The results of the second test and bloodpanel were not nice, especially with her emerging symptoms. The fluid in her chest is continuing to accumulate, she stopped eating (Ive been syringe feeding her a high-cal prescription diet), she is very anemic and very jaundiced. Her breathing has become very labored and she isn't really moving around much. After discussions with 2 vets and quite a few other sources of research (including this list), we've decided to help her over the bridge after we've had a chance to say goodbye. She has too many things off in her bloodwork, her red blood cells appear to be committing suicide, kidney enzymes are elevated, despite my efforts (pedialyte) to keep her hydrated and her liver enzymes are high despite my efforts to keep her fed (Hill's a/d). She is so weak, and since she is a just a kitten, who was born with the disease, it looks highly unlikely that aggressive treatment would do anything except buy her a little time. I think I'm at peace with my decision. I had plans to take a foster in this weekend, which I think I'll go through with since it will give me something to do and a place to direct all of my love. Plus, what better tribute to Lola than to save the life of another cat in need? I've requested that the foster be vaccinated against FeLV this once, just to be extra careful.Thanks, everyone.Allie Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
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Allie, My thoughts and prayers go out to you and Lola. Sometimes knowing when tolet go is the greatest gift we give our furbabies, and the most unselfish thing we can do for them. Wishing you both a peaceful time during your last hours together. And what better way to honor Lola's memory than providing a home for a needy furbaby Hugs, Patti
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Peace in passing to Lola, and to you in your time of grief. It sounds like you've made a good decision, and I think that honoring her by saving another cat right away is a great tribute to her. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to!~Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has your cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD? Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it curable. Ask me today how you can test for Trich! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/186 - Release Date: 11/29/2005
Saying goodbye to Bramble
I thought I'd better update - it saddens me to say that on Monday I will most likely be saying goodbye to my boy Bramble. I know I've been here before wondering if I should put to sleep or not - at all other times I had doubt and it felt wrong - now it feels right. He hasn't taken well to assisted feeding and is just getting scared of feeding time despite being as gentle as possible with the syringe - I'm getting less and less food in him each time. The interferon Omega has not killed off the calici like it did last time. He refuses to eat unassisted and is trying hide himself away. After going through so much I think he is now suffering and has had enough. He is alos being affectionate in a different manner than normal when I put him on my knee. When I asked him if he'd had enough he purred and nuzzled me - last time he got very restless. I think it's time - part of me hopes he passes quietly in his sleep before Monday but I doubt he will. Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel Buddy
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oh, i'm sorry to hear this--but, in an odd way, rejoice that he trusts you so very much that he could be honest about his wanting to go on. you have loved him so well and so deeply, and that will never be forgotten by him, by the critters that have gone before and will follow after, nor by the people whose story his life has touched. i wish i could make the pain go away... -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Michelle, I am so sorry to hear about this, you will know what is best for your beloved Bramble, but in case you wanted to ask him, I have recently had Kat ( Kathleen A. Berard,Animal Communicator, Vibrational Essences Practitioner and Holistic Care Consultant KATALYST FOR ANIMAL WHOLENESS, INC. www.katberard.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Communicatewith Venus about the whole peeing thing, and we are working on Venus's issues. You might want to give her a call, and see if she can squeeze you in, if not I am sure you know in your heart of hearts that this is the right thing to do...I am so sorry you have to make this choice, even though rest assured what ever you choose is the best for your baby. Good luck Huggs Cherie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I'd better update - it saddens me to say that on Monday I will most likely be saying goodbye to my boy Bramble. I know I've been here before wondering if I should put to sleep or not - at all other times I had doubt and it felt wrong - now it feels right. He hasn't taken well to assisted feeding and is just getting scared of feeding time despite being as gentle as possible with the syringe - I'm getting less and less food in him each time. The interferon Omega has not killed off the calici like it did last time. He refuses to eat unassisted and is trying hide himself away. After going through so much I think he is now suffering and has had enough. He is alos being affectionate in a different manner than normal when I put him on my knee. When I asked him if he'd had enough he purred and nuzzled me - last time he got very restless. I think it's time - part of me hopes he passes quietly in his sleep before Monday but I doubt he will. Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel BuddyHave a purrfect day Cherie
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Oh, Michelle, I'm so, sosorry. My heart goes out to you and Bramble. Like everyone else on the list, I'm sure, I feel I've grown to know Bramble so well. He is such a sweet, plucky, gutsy little guy. You two have such a strong bond, and it's been such an intense and tough time for you both...you both have worked so hard, and fought the good fight with such tremendous love and determinationand dedication. Like you, I hope if it is time, that Bramble passes peacefully in his sleep. But if that is not the case, you are so attuned to your little guy that there is no doubt you will make the right decision, whatever that may be, and that he will completely trust you to do that. Sending tons of positive healing vibes for Bramble and praying that he rebounds over the weekend--miracles do happen. I'm glad he has such a devoted and loving mom. much love and big hugs to you both and please know I'm thinking of you both, Kerry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: Saying goodbye to Bramble I thought I'd better update - it saddens me to say that on Monday I will most likely be saying goodbye to my boy Bramble. I know I've been here before wondering if I should put to sleep or not - at all other times I had doubt and it felt wrong - now it feels right. He hasn't taken well to assisted feeding and is just getting scared of feeding time despite being as gentle as possible with the syringe - I'm getting less and less food in him each time. The interferon Omega has not killed off the calici like it did last time. He refuses to eat unassisted and is trying hide himself away. After going through so much I think he is now suffering and has had enough. He is alos being affectionate in a different manner than normal when I put him on my knee. When I asked him if he'd had enough he purred and nuzzled me - last time he got very restless. I think it's time - part of me hopes he passes quietly in his sleep before Monday but I doubt he will. Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel Buddy
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Michelle, did you stop giving him that ringworm medication? I saw on the FIV list that it's been known to kill FIV+ cats. Just want to be sure he's not just having another bad medication reaction like last time Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/Adopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005
