subject:"\[Finale\] MIDI"

Thanks chuck 
Maybe I could ask how your keyboard short cuts work
Thanks

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> On 7 May 2017, at 20:46, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> No experience with Sibelius, but I find my method (much the same as 
> Christopher’s) pretty damn quick. It takes me far longer to think of what I 
> want than to enter it in Finale, but maybe I’m a slow thinker.
> 
> I also have keyboard shortcuts to toggle between coping everything and 
> copying only chords, and that is invaluable.
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> Shame finale can't be like Sibelius when it comes to entering changes quickly
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 7 May 2017, at 20:34, Christopher Smith  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I write a lot of jazz, and I never was able to get that to work properly. I 
>>> would have to play the chord in the exact same voicing every time for it to 
>>> work, and it’s hard to remember (and finger!) all those extensions. Plus, 
>>> there are always chords that I don’t use very often and would have to stop 
>>> and figure out a never-before-played voicing for them. I only have five 
>>> fingers! Your method works okay up to 7th chords.
>>> 
>>> I generally type into score. When I have a chord suffix with stacked 
>>> extensions, I have a Postit on my monitor with all my most-used suffixes 
>>> and their numbers. Say 7(#11b13) is suffix number 103, then I type C:103 
>>> and get the proper suffix on a C. If I ever forget (or don’t know) a suffix 
>>> number, I type C:0 (zero) and the suffix selector box pops up, where I 
>>> choose my suffix. The suffix number is right there in the niche.
>>> 
>>> Christopher
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 7, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
 
 Hi there was wondering if anybody that predominately writes big-band 
 charts 
 Do they enter the changes by playing the cord on a midi keyboard ?
 May I ask if they have built up a library of the complex chords e.g. flat 
 13 sharp 11s etc
 Thanks
 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI/jazz changes

Thanks for that any chance you could send your library 
Martin

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> On 7 May 2017, at 20:35, Skjalg Bjørstad  wrote:
> 
> I use complex chords a lot andI have made my own suffix libraries.  MIDI 
> input of chords with 5 or more notes is far too unreliable, so I use the 
> Mac's keyboard to type chords with my suffix libraries' shortcuts.  Much 
> faster and more accurate.
> 
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>> Den 7. mai 2017 kl. 21.27 skrev Martin Nickless :
>> 
>> Hi there was wondering if anybody that predominately writes big-band charts 
>> Do they enter the changes by playing the cord on a midi keyboard ?
>> May I ask if they have built up a library of the complex chords e.g. flat 13 
>> sharp 11s etc
>> Thanks
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Re: [Finale] MIDI/jazz changes

2017-05-07 Thread craig







I agree with the idea of simplification, but jazz pianists tend to prefer 
certain spellings even if they may appear more complex.  E.g. #11 is almost 
always used instead of #4 these days. That is just how pianists think of that 
extension.
Likewise C13 is very meaningful and almost always used in modern jazz instead 
of C6 or C69, which was common in the swing era. Many pianists will play the C 
13 as Bb, E, A, which gives a very desirable maj7 internal tension.
So "simplification" is hard to pinpoint.



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Martin,I type in chord changes from a custom library of suffixes.  I have 
complex ones when they are needed, but I have learned to use more basic symbols 
where possible. Flat 13 is, more often than not, really #5 . If #11 is in the 
melody, it’s often superfluous to spell it in the chord. And if it’s not, it’s 
more often a choice than a necessity. I use these extensions only when I need 
them and hardly ever in bass parts. Hope this helps,Chuck> On May 7, 2017, at 
12:27 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:> > Hi there was wondering if anybody that 
predominately writes big-band charts > Do they enter the changes by playing the 
cord on a midi keyboard ?> May I ask if they have built up a library of the 
complex chords e.g. flat 13 sharp 11s etc> Thanks> > Sent from my iPhone> 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI/jazz changes

2017-05-07 Thread Chuck Israels

No experience with Sibelius, but I find my method (much the same as 
Christopher’s) pretty damn quick. It takes me far longer to think of what I 
want than to enter it in Finale, but maybe I’m a slow thinker.

I also have keyboard shortcuts to toggle between coping everything and copying 
only chords, and that is invaluable.


> On May 7, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> 
> Thanks 
> Shame finale can't be like Sibelius when it comes to entering changes quickly
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 7 May 2017, at 20:34, Christopher Smith  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I write a lot of jazz, and I never was able to get that to work properly. I 
>> would have to play the chord in the exact same voicing every time for it to 
>> work, and it’s hard to remember (and finger!) all those extensions. Plus, 
>> there are always chords that I don’t use very often and would have to stop 
>> and figure out a never-before-played voicing for them. I only have five 
>> fingers! Your method works okay up to 7th chords.
>> 
>> I generally type into score. When I have a chord suffix with stacked 
>> extensions, I have a Postit on my monitor with all my most-used suffixes and 
>> their numbers. Say 7(#11b13) is suffix number 103, then I type C:103 and get 
>> the proper suffix on a C. If I ever forget (or don’t know) a suffix number, 
>> I type C:0 (zero) and the suffix selector box pops up, where I choose my 
>> suffix. The suffix number is right there in the niche.
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there was wondering if anybody that predominately writes big-band charts 
>>> Do they enter the changes by playing the cord on a midi keyboard ?
>>> May I ask if they have built up a library of the complex chords e.g. flat 
>>> 13 sharp 11s etc
>>> Thanks
>>> 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI/jazz changes

2017-05-07 Thread Skjalg Bjørstad

If you use shortcuts, you can enter/edit chords very fast.  In my suffix 
library, just type [C:8] to get [Cmin11(b5)] etc

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> Den 7. mai 2017 kl. 21.41 skrev Martin Nickless :
> 
> Thanks 
> Shame finale can't be like Sibelius when it comes to entering changes quickly
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 7 May 2017, at 20:34, Christopher Smith  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I write a lot of jazz, and I never was able to get that to work properly. I 
>> would have to play the chord in the exact same voicing every time for it to 
>> work, and it’s hard to remember (and finger!) all those extensions. Plus, 
>> there are always chords that I don’t use very often and would have to stop 
>> and figure out a never-before-played voicing for them. I only have five 
>> fingers! Your method works okay up to 7th chords.
>> 
>> I generally type into score. When I have a chord suffix with stacked 
>> extensions, I have a Postit on my monitor with all my most-used suffixes and 
>> their numbers. Say 7(#11b13) is suffix number 103, then I type C:103 and get 
>> the proper suffix on a C. If I ever forget (or don’t know) a suffix number, 
>> I type C:0 (zero) and the suffix selector box pops up, where I choose my 
>> suffix. The suffix number is right there in the niche.
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there was wondering if anybody that predominately writes big-band charts 
>>> Do they enter the changes by playing the cord on a midi keyboard ?
>>> May I ask if they have built up a library of the complex chords e.g. flat 
>>> 13 sharp 11s etc
>>> Thanks
>>> 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI/jazz changes

Thanks 
Shame finale can't be like Sibelius when it comes to entering changes quickly

Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 May 2017, at 20:34, Christopher Smith  
> wrote:
> 
> I write a lot of jazz, and I never was able to get that to work properly. I 
> would have to play the chord in the exact same voicing every time for it to 
> work, and it’s hard to remember (and finger!) all those extensions. Plus, 
> there are always chords that I don’t use very often and would have to stop 
> and figure out a never-before-played voicing for them. I only have five 
> fingers! Your method works okay up to 7th chords.
> 
> I generally type into score. When I have a chord suffix with stacked 
> extensions, I have a Postit on my monitor with all my most-used suffixes and 
> their numbers. Say 7(#11b13) is suffix number 103, then I type C:103 and get 
> the proper suffix on a C. If I ever forget (or don’t know) a suffix number, I 
> type C:0 (zero) and the suffix selector box pops up, where I choose my 
> suffix. The suffix number is right there in the niche.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there was wondering if anybody that predominately writes big-band charts 
>> Do they enter the changes by playing the cord on a midi keyboard ?
>> May I ask if they have built up a library of the complex chords e.g. flat 13 
>> sharp 11s etc
>> Thanks
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Re: [Finale] MIDI/jazz changes

2017-05-07 Thread Skjalg Bjørstad

I use complex chords a lot andI have made my own suffix libraries.  MIDI input 
of chords with 5 or more notes is far too unreliable, so I use the Mac's 
keyboard to type chords with my suffix libraries' shortcuts.  Much faster and 
more accurate.

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> Den 7. mai 2017 kl. 21.27 skrev Martin Nickless :
> 
> Hi there was wondering if anybody that predominately writes big-band charts 
> Do they enter the changes by playing the cord on a midi keyboard ?
> May I ask if they have built up a library of the complex chords e.g. flat 13 
> sharp 11s etc
> Thanks
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Re: [Finale] MIDI/jazz changes

2017-05-07 Thread Chuck Israels

Martin,

I type in chord changes from a custom library of suffixes.  I have complex ones 
when they are needed, but I have learned to use more basic symbols where 
possible. Flat 13 is, more often than not, really #5 . If #11 is in the melody, 
it’s often superfluous to spell it in the chord. And if it’s not, it’s more 
often a choice than a necessity. I use these extensions only when I need them 
and hardly ever in bass parts. 

Hope this helps,

Chuck

> On May 7, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> 
> Hi there was wondering if anybody that predominately writes big-band charts 
> Do they enter the changes by playing the cord on a midi keyboard ?
> May I ask if they have built up a library of the complex chords e.g. flat 13 
> sharp 11s etc
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI/jazz changes

2017-05-07 Thread Christopher Smith

I write a lot of jazz, and I never was able to get that to work properly. I 
would have to play the chord in the exact same voicing every time for it to 
work, and it’s hard to remember (and finger!) all those extensions. Plus, there 
are always chords that I don’t use very often and would have to stop and figure 
out a never-before-played voicing for them. I only have five fingers! Your 
method works okay up to 7th chords.

I generally type into score. When I have a chord suffix with stacked 
extensions, I have a Postit on my monitor with all my most-used suffixes and 
their numbers. Say 7(#11b13) is suffix number 103, then I type C:103 and get 
the proper suffix on a C. If I ever forget (or don’t know) a suffix number, I 
type C:0 (zero) and the suffix selector box pops up, where I choose my suffix. 
The suffix number is right there in the niche.

Christopher

> On May 7, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> 
> Hi there was wondering if anybody that predominately writes big-band charts 
> Do they enter the changes by playing the cord on a midi keyboard ?
> May I ask if they have built up a library of the complex chords e.g. flat 13 
> sharp 11s etc
> Thanks
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Re: [Finale] MIDI/jazz changes

2017-05-07 Thread dershem

On 5/7/2017 12:27 PM, Martin Nickless wrote:
> Hi there was wondering if anybody that predominately writes big-band charts
> Do they enter the changes by playing the cord on a midi keyboard ?
> May I ask if they have built up a library of the complex chords e.g. flat 13 
> sharp 11s etc
> Thanks
I have an extensive library, but I type faster and more accurately than 
I play piano.  :)

cd

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Hi there was wondering if anybody that predominately writes big-band charts 
Do they enter the changes by playing the cord on a midi keyboard ?
May I ask if they have built up a library of the complex chords e.g. flat 13 
sharp 11s etc
Thanks

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[Finale] midi velocity issue

2016-10-02 Thread Haroldo Mauro

Changing the “Set To” value under the MIDI Tool menu has no effect on Garritan 
instruments. For that matter, neither do Scale, Percent Alter etc. Any 
suggestions? Works with SmartMusic SoftSynth only.

Finale 2014 Mac Marvericks

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Re: [Finale] MIDI keyboard Trust 49 keys

2016-07-26 Thread timothy rice


Well, maybe your best bet is a business trip for a week in Paris.

Other than that, here is a reprint of past emails on small keyboards.



> I have used the Korg MicroKey and the Korg NanoKey at different times.
> 
> The NanoKey is only 2 octaves so depending on the part you're entering,
> you'll need to use the octave shift keys frequently.
> 
> The MicroKey37 is a 3 octave keyboard so there's much less need for the
> octave shift.
> 
> The NanoKey has very small keys, very nice for single-note entry and simply
> chords, not at all close to a normal keyboard action.  Excellent for Speedy
> Entry, in my opinion.
> 
> The MicroKey37 has small keys but they're much more like a normal piano
> keyboard, just a bit narrower and shorter.
> 
> They both respond quickly.
> 
> I also have the iRig Keys mini but find that it's much more finicky than
> either of the Korgs.  I bought the iRig Keys mini because it comes with a
> cable with the lightning connector for use with my iPad, but I don't like
> the keyboard so I don't use it much.
> 
> Sweetwater.com is a great place to learn more about these keyboards.
> 
> Good luck!
> David H. Bailey





On Jul 26, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Barbara Touburg wrote:
>> 
> 
> Thank you. I'm specifically looking for a keyboard with narrow keys to 
> fit the available space at my desk. :)
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Re: [Finale] MIDI keyboard Trust 49 keys

2016-07-26 Thread Barbara Touburg

On 26-7-2016 22:18, timothy rice wrote:
> Sorry, I have not found a source for this particular controller.
> Here is an article that rates the top 49 key controllers that are available 
> here.
>
> http://www.wirerealm.com/guides/best-49-key-midi-keyboard-controller
>
> Perhaps this will have something you can use as well.
>
> tim

Thank you. I'm specifically looking for a keyboard with narrow keys to 
fit the available space at my desk. :)

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Re: [Finale] MIDI keyboard Trust 49 keys

2016-07-26 Thread timothy rice

Sorry, I have not found a source for this particular controller.
Here is an article that rates the top 49 key controllers that are available 
here.

http://www.wirerealm.com/guides/best-49-key-midi-keyboard-controller

Perhaps this will have something you can use as well.

tim

On Jul 26, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Barbara Touburg wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can buy thus keyboard?
> 
> 
> 
> (page is in French, sorry)
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[Finale] MIDI keyboard Trust 49 keys

2016-07-26 Thread Barbara Touburg

Does anyone know where I can buy thus keyboard?



(page is in French, sorry)
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Re: [Finale] midi keyboard for college lab

2016-02-21 Thread David H. Bailey

On 2/21/2016 8:18 AM, David Froom wrote:
> Hello collective wisdom,
>
> I am looking into purchasing replacement keyboards for my small college's 
> shared "arts" lab (iMac computers). This is not for piano practice, nor for 
> basic theory learning, but rather, for use with programs like Finale and 
> Logic Pro. The shared nature of the lab and the configuration of the 
> workstations means that the keyboards need to be checked out to students, 
> stored in their lockers.
>
> I've been using Garage Key 37 key keyboards. The benefit of those is 
> full-sized keys, plus the plastic risers that attach to the sides to raise 
> the keyboard a few inches. The keyboard then sits above and behind the 
> computer keyboard, between the computer keyboard and the monitor. This means 
> it does not need to be to the right or to the left. I use one myself, 
> primarily and nearly exclusively for Finale note entry. The disadvantages of 
> the Garage Key are that it has no mod/pitch wheels, and is a bit flimsy (keys 
> get knocked out of alignment and stop working, the octave change keys go bad, 
> the plastic risers break). The problems don't occur with my own Garage Key 
> because I don't move it around. The students wrap usb cords around the 
> keyboard and put it in their backpacks to carry to a locker.
>
> I'd like 37 keys and the mod/pitch wheels. I want something that takes a 
> minimum of space (so no big space behind the keys with knobs the students 
> won't use -- these are not for live performing). Most important, though, is 
> sturdiness for keyboards that might get bumped around a bit.
>
> The budget is sort-of in the $100 per keyboard range.
>
> I'm looking at the Korg 37 microKEY. Does anyone use this? If so, can you 
> vouch for its playability and sturdiness?
>
> Or does anyone have any suggestions for other keyboards I should be 
> considering?
>

It's interesting that you should ask about the Korg 37 microKEY -- I
just purchased one.

I bought the $90 version through Sweetwater, hoping to use it with my
iPad as well as with my notebook computer.  But the current version of
the keyboard includes a 2-port USB hub so that other input gear can be
used at the same time, so the iPad gave me an error message when I tried
to attach the keyboard using the Camera Connection Kit from Apple --
This device uses too much power.  So I returned it to Sweetwater and
spent the extra money for the bluetooth version, the microKEY AIR, which
can also be attached by USB cable instead of bluetooth.  The bluetooth
version works with my iPad both with the USB attachment since it's not a
hub and doesn't require extra power and it also works well with bluetooth.

When I first got the USB-only version, I tested it with my notebook
computer (HP running Win10) and it worked very nicely.  The keys have a
solid feel to them, the case is well built and it feels rugged enough to
stand up to normal use.  It's hard to say whether any keyboard will
stand up if it's just something the students sign out from the music
department and don't have an actual investment in.  But at $89.99 it's
cheaper than many college textbooks so asking the students to buy their
own shouldn't be a problem.

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Re: [Finale] midi keyboard for college lab

2016-02-21 Thread David H. Bailey

On 2/21/2016 8:18 AM, David Froom wrote:
> Hello collective wisdom,
>
> I am looking into purchasing replacement keyboards for my small college's 
> shared "arts" lab (iMac computers). This is not for piano practice, nor for 
> basic theory learning, but rather, for use with programs like Finale and 
> Logic Pro. The shared nature of the lab and the configuration of the 
> workstations means that the keyboards need to be checked out to students, 
> stored in their lockers.
>
> I've been using Garage Key 37 key keyboards. The benefit of those is 
> full-sized keys, plus the plastic risers that attach to the sides to raise 
> the keyboard a few inches. The keyboard then sits above and behind the 
> computer keyboard, between the computer keyboard and the monitor. This means 
> it does not need to be to the right or to the left. I use one myself, 
> primarily and nearly exclusively for Finale note entry. The disadvantages of 
> the Garage Key are that it has no mod/pitch wheels, and is a bit flimsy (keys 
> get knocked out of alignment and stop working, the octave change keys go bad, 
> the plastic risers break). The problems don't occur with my own Garage Key 
> because I don't move it around. The students wrap usb cords around the 
> keyboard and put it in their backpacks to carry to a locker.
>
> I'd like 37 keys and the mod/pitch wheels. I want something that takes a 
> minimum of space (so no big space behind the keys with knobs the students 
> won't use -- these are not for live performing). Most important, though, is 
> sturdiness for keyboards that might get bumped around a bit.
>
> The budget is sort-of in the $100 per keyboard range.
>
> I'm looking at the Korg 37 microKEY. Does anyone use this? If so, can you 
> vouch for its playability and sturdiness?
>
> Or does anyone have any suggestions for other keyboards I should be 
> considering?
>

It's interesting that you should ask about the Korg 37 microKEY -- I 
just purchased one.

I bought the $90 version through Sweetwater, hoping to use it with my 
iPad as well as with my notebook computer.  But the current version of 
the keyboard includes a 2-port USB hub so that other input gear can be 
used at the same time, so the iPad gave me an error message when I tried 
to attach the keyboard using the Camera Connection Kit from Apple -- 
This device uses too much power.  So I returned it to Sweetwater and 
spent the extra money for the bluetooth version, the microKEY AIR, which 
can also be attached by USB cable instead of bluetooth.  The bluetooth 
version works with my iPad both with the USB attachment since it's not a 
hub and doesn't require extra power and it also works well with bluetooth.

When I first got the USB-only version, I tested it with my notebook 
computer (HP running Win10) and it worked very nicely.  The keys have a 
solid feel to them, the case is well built and it feels rugged enough to 
stand up to normal use.  It's hard to say whether any keyboard will 
stand up if it's just something the students sign out from the music 
department and don't have an actual investment in.  But at $89.99 it's 
cheaper than many college textbooks so asking the students to buy their 
own shouldn't be a problem.

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[Finale] midi keyboard for college lab

2016-02-21 Thread David Froom

Hello collective wisdom,

I am looking into purchasing replacement keyboards for my small college's 
shared "arts" lab (iMac computers). This is not for piano practice, nor for 
basic theory learning, but rather, for use with programs like Finale and Logic 
Pro. The shared nature of the lab and the configuration of the workstations 
means that the keyboards need to be checked out to students, stored in their 
lockers.

I've been using Garage Key 37 key keyboards. The benefit of those is full-sized 
keys, plus the plastic risers that attach to the sides to raise the keyboard a 
few inches. The keyboard then sits above and behind the computer keyboard, 
between the computer keyboard and the monitor. This means it does not need to 
be to the right or to the left. I use one myself, primarily and nearly 
exclusively for Finale note entry. The disadvantages of the Garage Key are that 
it has no mod/pitch wheels, and is a bit flimsy (keys get knocked out of 
alignment and stop working, the octave change keys go bad, the plastic risers 
break). The problems don't occur with my own Garage Key because I don't move it 
around. The students wrap usb cords around the keyboard and put it in their 
backpacks to carry to a locker. 

I'd like 37 keys and the mod/pitch wheels. I want something that takes a 
minimum of space (so no big space behind the keys with knobs the students won't 
use -- these are not for live performing). Most important, though, is 
sturdiness for keyboards that might get bumped around a bit. 

The budget is sort-of in the $100 per keyboard range.

I'm looking at the Korg 37 microKEY. Does anyone use this? If so, can you vouch 
for its playability and sturdiness?

Or does anyone have any suggestions for other keyboards I should be considering?

Thank's in advance,
David Froom 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI (free piano)

2016-01-26 Thread David Froom

On 26 Jan 2016, at 1:00 PM,  wrote:

> On 1/25/2016 12:06 PM, Nick Raspa wrote:
>> Many have mentioned Garage Band which is a good basic program, but there is 
>> also another (free) program called Audacity.  Although I generally use 
>> Garage Band for recording, I usually finish it up in Audacity.  You can also 
>> record directly into Audacity just as you can with Garage Band and Audacity 
>> is available for both Mac and PC.
>> 
> 
> Audacity is an audio recording program -- it doesn't have any midi sound 
> built into it.
> 
> The original question was about a piece of software that would be free 
> that would produce sounds when the student hooked the midi keyboard up 
> to the computer.  The keyboard is simply a controller with no built-in 
> sounds at all.

Already recommended is the combination of sforzando 
(https://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando/) and Ivy Audio's Piano-in-162 patch 
in sfz format (http://ivyaudio.com/Piano-in-162).

sforzando is a vst/au plugin, which needs a host to run it. It will run in 
Finale, or in DAW programs. For mac, anyway, the smallest free application I 
could find is "Hosting AU." That works fine as a tiny "stand alone" application 
to act as the host for audio units. 

I tried downloading sforzando, piano-in-162, and hosting au. This combination 
does a good job of turning a midi keyboard controller into a pretty decent 
piano. piano-in-162 has two choices, one with ambience, one without (you get 
both). It is quite a good sound font, especially because when the sustain pedal 
is depressed it changes the tone to have a full open-string resonance (a 
subtlety that is missing from many otherwise-pretty-good stand-alone electronic 
pianos). 

The download of piano-in-162 will take a while, and, unless you pay for it, it 
will have to come through a bit-torrent program. It is all clearly explained on 
their download page.

For windows computers, you'll need to find a small vst hosting stand-alone 
application.

David Froom
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Re: [Finale] MIDI (free piano)

2016-01-26 Thread Michael

> On 26 Jan 2016, at 19:26, David Froom  wrote:
> 
> sforzando is a vst/au plugin, which needs a host to run it. It will run in 
> Finale, or in DAW programs. For mac, anyway, the smallest free application I 
> could find is "Hosting AU." That works fine as a tiny "stand alone" 
> application to act as the host for audio units. 

Sforzando will run on its own without a host. I can control it directly from my 
MIDI keyboard.
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-25 Thread David H. Bailey

On 1/25/2016 12:06 PM, Nick Raspa wrote:
> Many have mentioned Garage Band which is a good basic program, but there is 
> also another (free) program called Audacity.  Although I generally use Garage 
> Band for recording, I usually finish it up in Audacity.  You can also record 
> directly into Audacity just as you can with Garage Band and Audacity is 
> available for both Mac and PC.
>

Audacity is an audio recording program -- it doesn't have any midi sound 
built into it.

The original question was about a piece of software that would be free 
that would produce sounds when the student hooked the midi keyboard up 
to the computer.  The keyboard is simply a controller with no built-in 
sounds at all.

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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-25 Thread Nick Raspa

Many have mentioned Garage Band which is a good basic program, but there is 
also another (free) program called Audacity.  Although I generally use Garage 
Band for recording, I usually finish it up in Audacity.  You can also record 
directly into Audacity just as you can with Garage Band and Audacity is 
available for both Mac and PC.

Nick Raspa

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Dick Hauser  wrote:
> 
> 
 
> On 23 Jan 2016, at 21:54, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chuck,
> 
> I need this for a piano pupil. They don't have a piano at home, so I 
> thought I could lend her my spare MIDI keyboard, but tonight i realised 
> that she may need some software as MIDI interface. To that end I'm using 
> Finale, of course, but I was wondering if there is other (preferably 
> free) that acts as an interface.
> 
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> I don’t know the PC world, but the Mac OS includes Garageband (of course) 
> which would provide the sound.  I bet there is a similar thing in the PC 
> world (some simple music play program included with the OS).  The interface 
> is hard to answer without knowledge of your students gear.  I suppose the 
> best world would be a USB keyboard.  Well, let us know what you wind up with.
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-25 Thread Dick Hauser


>>> 
 On 23 Jan 2016, at 21:54, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
 
 Hi Chuck,
 
 I need this for a piano pupil. They don't have a piano at home, so I 
 thought I could lend her my spare MIDI keyboard, but tonight i realised 
 that she may need some software as MIDI interface. To that end I'm using 
 Finale, of course, but I was wondering if there is other (preferably 
 free) that acts as an interface.
 
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I don’t know the PC world, but the Mac OS includes Garageband (of course) which 
would provide the sound.  I bet there is a similar thing in the PC world (some 
simple music play program included with the OS).  The interface is hard to 
answer without knowledge of your students gear.  I suppose the best world would 
be a USB keyboard.  Well, let us know what you wind up with.


Dick H
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-25 Thread Nick Raspa

Whoops - you’re right.  Sorry about that!

Nick Raspa

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:36 PM, David H. Bailey 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 1/25/2016 12:06 PM, Nick Raspa wrote:
>> Many have mentioned Garage Band which is a good basic program, but there is 
>> also another (free) program called Audacity.  Although I generally use 
>> Garage Band for recording, I usually finish it up in Audacity.  You can also 
>> record directly into Audacity just as you can with Garage Band and Audacity 
>> is available for both Mac and PC.
>> 
> 
> Audacity is an audio recording program -- it doesn't have any midi sound 
> built into it.
> 
> The original question was about a piece of software that would be free 
> that would produce sounds when the student hooked the midi keyboard up 
> to the computer.  The keyboard is simply a controller with no built-in 
> sounds at all.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-25 Thread David H. Bailey

On 1/24/2016 2:51 PM, Barbara Touburg wrote:
> On 24-1-2016 18:20, Michael wrote:
>> It’s not just a question of an interface: you also need something that 
>> creates the piano sound. Here is a good free piano 
>> sample:http://www.ivyaudio.com/Piano-in-162
>>
>> As explained on the page, if you want to run it for free you need to 
>> download the SFZ version and load it into a free SFZ player such as Plogue 
>> sforzando, to be found here:http://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando/
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Michael
>
>
> Thannk you very much, Michael.
> I'll forward your message to the pupil's father.
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-25 Thread Michael

Sorry, I don’t know.  The Ivy audio piano sample should download as a zip file 
from which you extract the sfz file. It’s pretty big, around 4.5 GB, and may be 
too much for some systems. For something a bit smaller and probably more 
manageable, there’s the Salamander grand piano, to be found here: 
http://freepats.zenvoid.org/Piano/ I just tried the first version in the list: 
seems to work OK.


> On 24 Jan 2016, at 20:49, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> I tried this - hoping it might be useful to me too.  I downloaded and opened 
> sforzando, but the piano sample does not download and open.  Can you suggest 
> what I might be doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Michael  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s not just a question of an interface: you also need something that 
>> creates the piano sound. Here is a good free piano sample: 
>> http://www.ivyaudio.com/Piano-in-162
>> 
>> As explained on the page, if you want to run it for free you need to 
>> download the SFZ version and load it into a free SFZ player such as Plogue 
>> sforzando, to be found here: http://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando/
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Michael
>> 
>>> On 23 Jan 2016, at 21:54, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> 
>>> I need this for a piano pupil. They don't have a piano at home, so I 
>>> thought I could lend her my spare MIDI keyboard, but tonight i realised 
>>> that she may need some software as MIDI interface. To that end I'm using 
>>> Finale, of course, but I was wondering if there is other (preferably 
>>> free) that acts as an interface.
>>> 
>>> Barbara
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-24 Thread Michael

It’s not just a question of an interface: you also need something that creates 
the piano sound. Here is a good free piano sample: 
http://www.ivyaudio.com/Piano-in-162

As explained on the page, if you want to run it for free you need to download 
the SFZ version and load it into a free SFZ player such as Plogue sforzando, to 
be found here: http://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando/

Best wishes,
Michael

> On 23 Jan 2016, at 21:54, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chuck,
> 
> I need this for a piano pupil. They don't have a piano at home, so I 
> thought I could lend her my spare MIDI keyboard, but tonight i realised 
> that she may need some software as MIDI interface. To that end I'm using 
> Finale, of course, but I was wondering if there is other (preferably 
> free) that acts as an interface.
> 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-24 Thread Barbara Touburg

On 24-1-2016 18:20, Michael wrote:
> It’s not just a question of an interface: you also need something that 
> creates the piano sound. Here is a good free piano 
> sample:http://www.ivyaudio.com/Piano-in-162
>
> As explained on the page, if you want to run it for free you need to download 
> the SFZ version and load it into a free SFZ player such as Plogue sforzando, 
> to be found here:http://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando/
>
> Best wishes,
> Michael


Thannk you very much, Michael.
I'll forward your message to the pupil's father.
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-24 Thread Chuck Israels

Michael,

I tried this - hoping it might be useful to me too.  I downloaded and opened 
sforzando, but the piano sample does not download and open.  Can you suggest 
what I might be doing wrong?

Thanks,

Chuck


> On Jan 24, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Michael  wrote:
> 
> It’s not just a question of an interface: you also need something that 
> creates the piano sound. Here is a good free piano sample: 
> http://www.ivyaudio.com/Piano-in-162
> 
> As explained on the page, if you want to run it for free you need to download 
> the SFZ version and load it into a free SFZ player such as Plogue sforzando, 
> to be found here: http://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando/
> 
> Best wishes,
> Michael
> 
>> On 23 Jan 2016, at 21:54, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chuck,
>> 
>> I need this for a piano pupil. They don't have a piano at home, so I 
>> thought I could lend her my spare MIDI keyboard, but tonight i realised 
>> that she may need some software as MIDI interface. To that end I'm using 
>> Finale, of course, but I was wondering if there is other (preferably 
>> free) that acts as an interface.
>> 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-23 Thread Chuck Israels

Hi Barbara,

Yes, there is software that contains sound samples (I guess a piano sound is 
what you’d like - it’s what I always want).  Garage Band does this on Mac, and 
I’m sure there are others.  Whether or not they are free, I don’t know, but you 
can surely find something that will work.

Chuck




> On Jan 23, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chuck,
> 
> I need this for a piano pupil. They don't have a piano at home, so I 
> thought I could lend her my spare MIDI keyboard, but tonight i realised 
> that she may need some software as MIDI interface. To that end I'm using 
> Finale, of course, but I was wondering if there is other (preferably 
> free) that acts as an interface.
> 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-23 Thread Gippo Mercoli


Mainstage too on Mac 
I use komplete that contains kontact and several virtual pianos and organs 

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> On 23 Jan 2016, at 21:44, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> Hi Barbara,
> 
> On a Mac, you can use Garage Band, and there’s something called Ableton that 
> is also available.  It’s generally clumsy to have to use sound samples on the 
> computer.  I wish I could find a 61 key MIDI controller keyboard with good 
> piano sound and speakers so I wouldn’t have to do what you are describing.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
>> 
>> Is it possible to connect a MIDI keyboard to the computer (without 
>> notation software) and have sound?
>> 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-23 Thread Barbara Touburg

Hi Chuck,

I need this for a piano pupil. They don't have a piano at home, so I 
thought I could lend her my spare MIDI keyboard, but tonight i realised 
that she may need some software as MIDI interface. To that end I'm using 
Finale, of course, but I was wondering if there is other (preferably 
free) that acts as an interface.

Barbara
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz

On Sat, January 23, 2016 3:32 pm, Barbara Touburg wrote:
> Is it possible to connect a MIDI keyboard to the computer (without
> notation software) and have sound?

Yes, as others have said -- but you can also run the Aria player separately
from Finale and use all the Finale sounds or any soundbank. When I did my
opera, I bought a custom set of cimbalom samples (from Boulder Sounds in
Colorado). They were played live in performance using a Kurzweil MIDI
keyboard, the Aria player (on a Dell netbook), and output to a pair of
speakers below the keyboard. Very effective.

Dennis

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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2016-01-23 Thread Chuck Israels

Hi Barbara,

On a Mac, you can use Garage Band, and there’s something called Ableton that is 
also available.  It’s generally clumsy to have to use sound samples on the 
computer.  I wish I could find a 61 key MIDI controller keyboard with good 
piano sound and speakers so I wouldn’t have to do what you are describing.

Chuck

> On Jan 23, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to connect a MIDI keyboard to the computer (without 
> notation software) and have sound?
> 
> Barbara
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[Finale] MIDI

2016-01-23 Thread Barbara Touburg

Is it possible to connect a MIDI keyboard to the computer (without 
notation software) and have sound?

Barbara
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2015-07-31 Thread David H. Bailey

I'm glad these messages are getting through finally -- if I had known 
the files had 88 channels I would have told you right away that the 
problem is that midi files can only have 16 channels, which explains why 
neither of us can import the midi data properly.

So one solution would be to have your client export all the midi data in 
groups of 16 channels, from the top down.  Then you can import each 
separate file (by my guess that would make 6 different midi files) into 
its own Finale file and then work from there to combine the data into a 
single file.

I think -- this is a totally strange situation in my experience and it 
sure would be better if the person who is sending you the midi files 
understood notation and could write down what he's playing.  :-)

Good luck!
David



On 7/30/2015 10:28 AM, Barbara Touburg wrote:
 On 30-7-2015 15:37, David H. Bailey wrote:
 There are two possibilities:

 1) Finale will place all the notes which are on the same channel into a
 single staff when it imports MIDI files, to the best of my knowledge.
 So even though the original file may have had each of those chord-tones
 on different staves, Finale will put those notes on a single staff as a
 chord;

 There are (don't laugh) 88 channels, one for each key on the piano.
 This is minimal music, but not the kind that makes your ears go numb. It
 is actually very pleasing.

 2) the quantization settings in Finale are moving those notes forward
 and backwards to fit its timing grid -- try changing the quantization
 settings in Finale by telling it that the shortest note in the MIDI file
 is a 32nd note or even a 64th note.  WARNING -- while this may fix your
 chord problem, it can also result in a lot of extra weird rests and note
 values.  What you could try is importing the file as you have done, then
 selecting a measure with a chord and then have Finale quantize the
 underlying midi data with shorter note values to see if that will fix
 just that measure.  Then do the same with the next measure which has a
 chord.  This way your whole file won't have a lot of weird rests and
 note values.

 There are NO chords, since there are 88 separate channels.
 All right, there are chords, but not on one channel.
 I don't know towhat I have to change the quantization settings. I've
 tried all I know. Hence my request for help. :)
 I think it has something to do with the tempo and the note durations,
 but I dont know what. Slowing the music down or doubling the note values
 might help.

 If you want to send me the midi file off-list I'll be happy to see what
 I can come up with to help you out, although I may not have a chance to
 play around with it until this evening.

 The piece is called The first hour. It lasts for an hour! I'll send you
 the different versions. Please let me know what you think. THANKS A LOT
 for trying!



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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2015-07-31 Thread Barbara Touburg

On 31-7-2015 16:13, David H. Bailey wrote:
 I'm glad these messages are getting through finally -- if I had known
 the files had 88 channels I would have told you right away that the
 problem is that midi files can only have 16 channels, which explains why
 neither of us can import the midi data properly.

David, I'm slapping myself. Of course I knew that. It just didn't occur 
to me that that was the problem!

 So one solution would be to have your client export all the midi data in
 groups of 16 channels, from the top down.  Then you can import each
 separate file (by my guess that would make 6 different midi files) into
 its own Finale file and then work from there to combine the data into a
 single file.

I've forwarderd your solution to him. I think he'll understand.

 I think -- this is a totally strange situation in my experience and it
 sure would be better if the person who is sending you the midi files
 understood notation and could write down what he's playing.  :-)

O, o, o! He has studied composition with Klaas de Vries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaas_de_Vries_%28composer%29

and knows perfectly well what he's doing. He just hasn't much experience 
with notation software (he uses Sib.!).

Thank you very much for your trouble! We'll work it out. I always win, 
as Dennis B.-K. knows. :)

 Good luck!
 David
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

2015-07-30 Thread David H. Bailey

On 7/29/2015 11:03 AM, Barbara Touburg wrote:
 Hello all,

 A composer has sent me a MIDI file he wishes me to notate.
 Instead of separate notes, Finale creates chords in some places.
 I'm not so familiar with the MIDI format. Would someone like to take a
 look at the file and tell me what I'm doing wrong?
 Thanks!

There are two possibilities:

1) Finale will place all the notes which are on the same channel into a 
single staff when it imports MIDI files, to the best of my knowledge. 
So even though the original file may have had each of those chord-tones 
on different staves, Finale will put those notes on a single staff as a 
chord;

2) the quantization settings in Finale are moving those notes forward 
and backwards to fit its timing grid -- try changing the quantization 
settings in Finale by telling it that the shortest note in the MIDI file 
is a 32nd note or even a 64th note.  WARNING -- while this may fix your 
chord problem, it can also result in a lot of extra weird rests and note 
values.  What you could try is importing the file as you have done, then 
selecting a measure with a chord and then have Finale quantize the 
underlying midi data with shorter note values to see if that will fix 
just that measure.  Then do the same with the next measure which has a 
chord.  This way your whole file won't have a lot of weird rests and 
note values.

If you want to send me the midi file off-list I'll be happy to see what 
I can come up with to help you out, although I may not have a chance to 
play around with it until this evening.


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[Finale] MIDI

2015-07-30 Thread Barbara Touburg

Hello all,

A composer has sent me a MIDI file he wishes me to notate.
Instead of separate notes, Finale creates chords in some places.
I'm not so familiar with the MIDI format. Would someone like to take a 
look at the file and tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks!

Barbara
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[Finale] Midi problem mit OS 10.10.4 redux

2015-07-27 Thread Eric Fiedler

David and friends,
Sorry to belabor the list with our problems, but time is running out …
We now have a new MIDI interface and the computer is once again talking to the 
MIDI keyboard. Note entry is fine, but playback is very strange – possible due 
to too much fiddling around trying to fix the old system. When I enter a series 
of four-voice chords on one staff, for example, only the lowest note in each 
chord plays back! What have we messed up and/or what are we missing and how can 
we fix it?
Thanks for any and all ideas.
Eric
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Re: [Finale] Midi problems with OS 10.10.4

2015-07-27 Thread Eric Fiedler

Thanks David, I had suspected something like this. Looks like a trip to our 
local music-tech shop is the only way to go.
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 Am 27.07.2015 um 11:32 schrieb David H. Bailey dhbaile...@comcast.net:
 
 On 7/27/2015 4:54 AM, Eric Fiedler wrote:
 Friends, Fin Mac 2012c.r13, iMac late 2009. After more or less having
 to upgrade to OS 10.10.4, our MIDI interface (Midiman Midisport 2x2)
 has stopped working. Seems to have completely lost contactwith the
 computer’s USB, as no lights are lighted in the box. Are there known
 problems with this (rather old) interface? This is a major problem
 for us and has to be solved PDQ. Thanks for any suggestion pr
 thoughts you may have! Eric
 
 I'm not sure about OSx but when Windows moved to class-compliant 
 devices, many makers of older devices which required specific drivers 
 simply stopped writing updates for them.  The Midiman Midisport 2x2 was 
 one of them -- instead the manufacturers brought out new versions of the 
 devices which are class-compliant which in the Windows world at least 
 means that specific drivers are not necessary because the operating 
 system has all the necessary hooks in it for those devices to work.
 
 So I ended up having to throw my Midisport 2x2 out and buy a different 
 interface.
 
 My advice is to contact Sweetwater or a local music store which 
 understands these things and ask them for more details on the situation 
 as well as for a recommendation of a midi interface to fill your needs.
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Midi problems with OS 10.10.4

2015-07-27 Thread David H. Bailey

On 7/27/2015 4:54 AM, Eric Fiedler wrote:
 Friends, Fin Mac 2012c.r13, iMac late 2009. After more or less having
 to upgrade to OS 10.10.4, our MIDI interface (Midiman Midisport 2x2)
 has stopped working. Seems to have completely lost contactwith the
 computer’s USB, as no lights are lighted in the box. Are there known
 problems with this (rather old) interface? This is a major problem
 for us and has to be solved PDQ. Thanks for any suggestion pr
 thoughts you may have! Eric

I'm not sure about OSx but when Windows moved to class-compliant 
devices, many makers of older devices which required specific drivers 
simply stopped writing updates for them.  The Midiman Midisport 2x2 was 
one of them -- instead the manufacturers brought out new versions of the 
devices which are class-compliant which in the Windows world at least 
means that specific drivers are not necessary because the operating 
system has all the necessary hooks in it for those devices to work.

So I ended up having to throw my Midisport 2x2 out and buy a different 
interface.

My advice is to contact Sweetwater or a local music store which 
understands these things and ask them for more details on the situation 
as well as for a recommendation of a midi interface to fill your needs.



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[Finale] Midi problems with OS 10.10.4

2015-07-27 Thread Eric Fiedler

Friends,
Fin Mac 2012c.r13, iMac late 2009. After more or less having to upgrade to OS 
10.10.4, our MIDI interface (Midiman Midisport 2x2) has stopped working. Seems 
to have completely lost contactwith the computer’s USB, as no lights are 
lighted in the box. Are there known problems with this (rather old) interface? 
This is a major problem for us and has to be solved PDQ. Thanks for any 
suggestion pr thoughts you may have!
Eric
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[Finale] MIDI controllers

2015-01-22 Thread Kenneth Moore

Playback of Finale 2014 on Windows 8.1 seems to have its own ideas as to 
the relative dynamic of notes on different layers of the same stave.  I 
use non-printing expressions with MIDI controllers as the defined 
playback.  In F2004 this applied to the whole stave.  In F2014, a right 
click on an expression gives me the option to display on all layers or 
any one of them, but playback can be set to apply only to Current 
layer or any one; all layers is not offered.  I presume current 
layer means the one open for input at present, rather than anything to 
do with playback time (the documentation is unforthcoming).  How can one 
most easily apply the main volume controller to a whole stave?

TIA

Ken Moore
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[Finale] MIDI controllers

2015-01-22 Thread Kenneth Moore

Stranger and stranger: in my Finale 2014, as far as I can tell, any 
application of CC7, the Main Volume controller, reduces the volume of 
the layer to zero, whatever value you set.
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[Finale] MIDI interface question

2014-11-01 Thread Martin Banner

Has anyone use the MOTU Micro Lite midi interface to run Finale 2012 on an iMac 
(OS 10.9.5)? Any reviews on this product would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Martin
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[Finale] Midi interface

2014-10-30 Thread Martin Banner

Can someone recommend a midi interface to use with Finale 2012 on an iMac 
running OS 10.9.5?

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[Finale] MIDI note numbers for percussion?

2014-01-26 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

Sorry for asking basic questions, but I must do some misreading of the FM2014 
percussion map in the online manual.

From Garritan I have the personal orchestra as well as the marching band sound 
libraries. I prefer the quality of the GPO sounds, but will accept the band 
sounds if nothing else will work.

I have managed to make a very well sounding bass drum line. But I cannot make 
the cymbal line work at all. I want the sound of handheld orchestral cymbals 
with a long decay, if the note value tells so. Which MIDI note number should I 
go for? 

Next problem will be tenor drum.  Which MIDI note number should I go for? 

The is a tenor drum sound in the band library, but a GPO sound of a side drum 
with no snares might be the best. Which MIDI note number should I go for in 
this case?

Timpanies and Glockenspiel are so much easier to handle!

Thanks!

Klaus  
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[Finale] Midi input doesn't change to patch sounds assigned to the staves

2013-11-24 Thread Jim Fischer

It worked a few days ago. 
When i recorded w Hyperscribe the midi triggered the different sounds.
Now it stays on a human voice sound regardless od which staff i'm recording. 
Any ideas on how to get this working again?

thx, 
Jim

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Re: [Finale] Midi input doesn't change to patch sounds assigned to the staves

2013-11-24 Thread David H. Bailey

On 11/24/2013 3:47 AM, Jim Fischer wrote:
 It worked a few days ago.
 When i recorded w Hyperscribe the midi triggered the different sounds.
 Now it stays on a human voice sound regardless od which staff i'm recording.
 Any ideas on how to get this working again?


Save your work, quit Finale and reboot your computer, then restart 
Finale, open the file and see if that changes things.


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Re: [Finale] MIDI woes

2013-03-28 Thread Raymond Horton

Sorry!

I'll try it some, see how it goes and report back.

RBH


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:
 I was *trying* to play in real time...

 At 04:31 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
It sounded like Phil was likely not playing in in real time.  I have
had a USB Akai LPK25 for a couple of weeks, and the setup is
instantaneous.  I also have used an old Casio, with a midi-to-usb
adapter, and that often would take jumping through hoops to get the
computer or Finale to recognize.  Are you able to use the Casio with a
non-usb input of some sort?  I thought midi input cards had gone out
with Culture Club?

Raymond Horton
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Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
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On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Richard Yates
rich...@yatesguitar.com wrote:
  I have also found the latency in USB controllers to be too difficult to get
  used to. I tried two controllers over the years on a couple different
  machines and operating systems. For me it does not take much latency to be
  really annoying and throw off efficiency of
 note entry. (I have never played
  the tuba either!).
 
  So, I continue to use an ancient Casio (I found the initials 'W.A.M.'
  scratched in the bottom by some vandal) that has its own small amp and
  speakers built in.
 
  Richard Yates
 
  Chuck Israels:
  I don't believe that latency is a built in problem with either Finale's
  MIDI
  communication pipeline or with most conventional MIDI controller
  keyboards, so I am
  inclined to think there is something amiss in the way the software is set
  up (though I
  don't pretend to know what that might be).  It's been a long time since I
  have had
  similar difficulties, but in the past, a call to MM support has quickly
  solved the
  problem.
 
  Perhaps a 25 key keyboard will be sufficient for your needs.  You may find
  it
  annoying to have to switch octaves, so that's something to consider before
  saving a
  little money on something that may prove less than ideal after more use.
  I use an M-
  Audio Keystation 61 - reliable and efficient, but even that runs out of
  range every now
  and then.  Of course, space and portability may also be an issue.
 
  Chuck
 
 
  On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:
 
   I *think* that was what I tried before.  The
   latency made it unusable.   Maybe I didn't have
   it set up right, but there were no instructions with it - and I didn't
   have access to this fount of knowledge!
  
   I had a scan through amazon this morning, and have saved 4 or 5
   different ones in my wish list.  They are all under $100, and  most
   are
   around the $60-70 mark.   I just don't want to
   get one until I know how it is that the system should be set up to  use
  it.
  
   Phil.
  
   At 12:18 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
   You sound like a perfect candidate for the Akai LPK25.  $43 and
   change at Musicians Friend.  If you have a Guitar Center in town they
   should match that price if you show them the site:
  
  
 http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-lpk2
   5-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP
  
  
   Raymond Horton
   Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville
   (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
  
  
   On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net
  wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I have one of those cheapo roll-up
   keyboards.  I've had it for quite a while, but never tried it out.
   It's a bit too long, and
   droops off my desk, for one thing.   I have been
   thinking of getting a small keyboard for inputting to Finale.  I
   don't play piano, but I can play one line at a time.  Anyway, before
   spending any more money, I decided to try out the rubber one.
   It works, or at least it plays by itself.  Finale refuses to
   recognise it, though.  Windows recognises it as a generic usb midi
   controller, but for some reason the signal isn't being taken by
   Finale.
  
   One thing is, the usb/midi cable I have has a fork with in and out
   midi connectors on it.  The keyboard only has a single midi port.
   If I plug one end of the Y in, the led on the doodad
   flashes, but it flashes as input.   I assume that
   it is talking about input into the keyboard, but I could be wrong.
   It has happened once or twice before!  If I plug the other end in, I
   don't get either light flashing.  In both cases, it is playing the
   notes itself, but the program isn't interested.
  
   Like I said, I don't really care if this one works or not, but I
   don't want to spend money on a better one, if I can't get it to
   work.
  
   In the audio setup dialogue, I have input set to directsound - if I
   use ASIO, I don't get any output from the program at all.  For mike
   source, I have it set to primary sound capture driver - the only
   option.  When I come back into it, this field

[Finale] MIDI woes

Hi,

I have one of those cheapo roll-up 
keyboards.  I've had it for quite a while, but 
never tried it out.  It's a bit too long, and 
droops off my desk, for one thing.   I have been 
thinking of getting a small keyboard for 
inputting to Finale.  I don't play piano, but I 
can play one line at a time.  Anyway, before 
spending any more money, I decided to try out the rubber one.
It works, or at least it plays by itself.  Finale 
refuses to recognise it, though.  Windows 
recognises it as a generic usb midi controller, 
but for some reason the signal isn't being taken by Finale.

One thing is, the usb/midi cable I have has a 
fork with in and out midi connectors on it.  The 
keyboard only has a single midi port.  If I plug 
one end of the Y in, the led on the doodad 
flashes, but it flashes as input.   I assume that 
it is talking about input into the keyboard, but 
I could be wrong.  It has happened once or twice 
before!  If I plug the other end in, I don't get 
either light flashing.  In both cases, it is 
playing the notes itself, but the program isn't interested.

Like I said, I don't really care if this one 
works or not, but I don't want to spend money on 
a better one, if I can't get it to work.

In the audio setup dialogue, I have input set to 
directsound - if I use ASIO, I don't get any 
output from the program at all.  For mike source, 
I have it set to primary sound capture driver - 
the only option.  When I come back into it, this 
field has usually set itself to blank.

Is there some esoteric setting somewhere that I 
am missing?   The user guide is not a lot of help on this subject.
I tried a midi controller some years back, and 
returned it because my cakewalk would not 
recognise it.  Oh, and it also had about 2 seconds of latency!

Any advice welcome...

Phil.



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Re: [Finale] MIDI woes

2013-03-27 Thread Raymond Horton

You sound like a perfect candidate for the Akai LPK25. $43 and change
at Musicians Friend. If you have a Guitar Center in town they should
match that price if you show them the site:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-lpk25-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi,

I have one of those cheapo roll-up
keyboards. I've had it for quite a while, but
never tried it out. It's a bit too long, and
droops off my desk, for one thing. I have been
thinking of getting a small keyboard for
inputting to Finale. I don't play piano, but I
can play one line at a time. Anyway, before
spending any more money, I decided to try out the rubber one.
It works, or at least it plays by itself. Finale
refuses to recognise it, though. Windows
recognises it as a generic usb midi controller,
but for some reason the signal isn't being taken by Finale.

One thing is, the usb/midi cable I have has a
fork with in and out midi connectors on it. The
keyboard only has a single midi port. If I plug
one end of the Y in, the led on the doodad
flashes, but it flashes as input. I assume that
it is talking about input into the keyboard, but
I could be wrong. It has happened once or twice
before! If I plug the other end in, I don't get
either light flashing. In both cases, it is
playing the notes itself, but the program isn't interested.

Like I said, I don't really care if this one
works or not, but I don't want to spend money on
a better one, if I can't get it to work.

In the audio setup dialogue, I have input set to
directsound - if I use ASIO, I don't get any
output from the program at all. For mike source,
I have it set to primary sound capture driver -
the only option. When I come back into it, this
field has usually set itself to blank.

Is there some esoteric setting somewhere that I
am missing? The user guide is not a lot of help on this subject.
I tried a midi controller some years back, and
returned it because my cakewalk would not
recognise it. Oh, and it also had about 2 seconds of latency!

Any advice welcome...

Phil.

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Re: [Finale] MIDI woes

I *think* that was what I tried before. The
latency made it unusable. Maybe I didn't have
it set up right, but there were no instructions
with it - and I didn't have access to this fount of knowledge!

I had a scan through amazon this morning, and
have saved 4 or 5 different ones in my wish
list. They are all under $100, and most are
around the $60-70 mark. I just don't want to
get one until I know how it is that the system should be set up to use it.

Phil.

At 12:18 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
You sound like a perfect candidate for the Akai LPK25. $43 and change
at Musicians Friend. If you have a Guitar Center in town they should
match that price if you show them the site:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-lpk25-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi,

Like I said, I don't really care if this one
works or not, but I don't want to spend money on
a better one, if I can't get it to work.

Any advice welcome...

Phil.

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Re: [Finale] MIDI woes

2013-03-27 Thread Chuck Israels

I don't believe that latency is a built in problem with either Finale's MIDI
communication pipeline or with most conventional MIDI controller keyboards, so
I am inclined to think there is something amiss in the way the software is set
up (though I don't pretend to know what that might be). It's been a long time
since I have had similar difficulties, but in the past, a call to MM support
has quickly solved the problem.

Perhaps a 25 key keyboard will be sufficient for your needs. You may find it
annoying to have to switch octaves, so that's something to consider before
saving a little money on something that may prove less than ideal after more
use. I use an M-Audio Keystation 61 - reliable and efficient, but even that
runs out of range every now and then. Of course, space and portability may
also be an issue.

Chuck

On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:

Phil.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-lpk25-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi,

Like I said, I don't really care if this one
works or not, but I don't want to spend money on
a better one, if I can't get it to work.

Any advice welcome...

Phil.

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Re: [Finale] MIDI woes

2013-03-27 Thread Richard Yates

I have also found the latency in USB controllers to be too difficult to get
used to. I tried two controllers over the years on a couple different
machines and operating systems. For me it does not take much latency to be
really annoying and throw off efficiency of note entry. (I have never played
the tuba either!). 

So, I continue to use an ancient Casio (I found the initials 'W.A.M.'
scratched in the bottom by some vandal) that has its own small amp and
speakers built in. 

Richard Yates

 Chuck Israels:
 I don't believe that latency is a built in problem with either Finale's
MIDI
 communication pipeline or with most conventional MIDI controller
keyboards, so I am
 inclined to think there is something amiss in the way the software is set
up (though I
 don't pretend to know what that might be).  It's been a long time since I
have had
 similar difficulties, but in the past, a call to MM support has quickly
solved the
 problem.
 
 Perhaps a 25 key keyboard will be sufficient for your needs.  You may find
it
 annoying to have to switch octaves, so that's something to consider before
saving a
 little money on something that may prove less than ideal after more use.
I use an M-
 Audio Keystation 61 - reliable and efficient, but even that runs out of
range every now
 and then.  Of course, space and portability may also be an issue.
 
 Chuck
 
 
 On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  I *think* that was what I tried before.  The
  latency made it unusable.   Maybe I didn't have
  it set up right, but there were no instructions with it - and I didn't
  have access to this fount of knowledge!
 
  I had a scan through amazon this morning, and have saved 4 or 5
  different ones in my wish list.  They are all under $100, and  most
  are
  around the $60-70 mark.   I just don't want to
  get one until I know how it is that the system should be set up to  use
it.
 
  Phil.
 
  At 12:18 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
  You sound like a perfect candidate for the Akai LPK25.  $43 and
  change at Musicians Friend.  If you have a Guitar Center in town they
  should match that price if you show them the site:
 
  http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-lpk2
  5-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP
 
 
  Raymond Horton
  Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville
  (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
 
 
  On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have one of those cheapo roll-up
  keyboards.  I've had it for quite a while, but never tried it out.
  It's a bit too long, and
  droops off my desk, for one thing.   I have been
  thinking of getting a small keyboard for inputting to Finale.  I
  don't play piano, but I can play one line at a time.  Anyway, before
  spending any more money, I decided to try out the rubber one.
  It works, or at least it plays by itself.  Finale refuses to
  recognise it, though.  Windows recognises it as a generic usb midi
  controller, but for some reason the signal isn't being taken by
  Finale.
 
  One thing is, the usb/midi cable I have has a fork with in and out
  midi connectors on it.  The keyboard only has a single midi port.
  If I plug one end of the Y in, the led on the doodad
  flashes, but it flashes as input.   I assume that
  it is talking about input into the keyboard, but I could be wrong.
  It has happened once or twice before!  If I plug the other end in, I
  don't get either light flashing.  In both cases, it is playing the
  notes itself, but the program isn't interested.
 
  Like I said, I don't really care if this one works or not, but I
  don't want to spend money on a better one, if I can't get it to
  work.
 
  In the audio setup dialogue, I have input set to directsound - if I
  use ASIO, I don't get any output from the program at all.  For mike
  source, I have it set to primary sound capture driver - the only
  option.  When I come back into it, this field has usually set itself
  to blank.
 
  Is there some esoteric setting somewhere that I
  am missing?   The user guide is not a lot of help on this subject.
  I tried a midi controller some years back, and returned it because
  my cakewalk would not recognise it.  Oh, and it also had about 2
  seconds of latency!
 
  Any advice welcome...
 
  Phil.
 
 
 
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  Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
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Re: [Finale] MIDI woes

2013-03-27 Thread Raymond Horton

It sounded like Phil was likely not playing in in real time.  I have
had a USB Akai LPK25 for a couple of weeks, and the setup is
instantaneous.  I also have used an old Casio, with a midi-to-usb
adapter, and that often would take jumping through hoops to get the
computer or Finale to recognize.  Are you able to use the Casio with a
non-usb input of some sort?  I thought midi input cards had gone out
with Culture Club?

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Richard Yates rich...@yatesguitar.com wrote:
 I have also found the latency in USB controllers to be too difficult to get
 used to. I tried two controllers over the years on a couple different
 machines and operating systems. For me it does not take much latency to be
 really annoying and throw off efficiency of note entry. (I have never played
 the tuba either!).

 So, I continue to use an ancient Casio (I found the initials 'W.A.M.'
 scratched in the bottom by some vandal) that has its own small amp and
 speakers built in.

 Richard Yates

 Chuck Israels:
 I don't believe that latency is a built in problem with either Finale's
 MIDI
 communication pipeline or with most conventional MIDI controller
 keyboards, so I am
 inclined to think there is something amiss in the way the software is set
 up (though I
 don't pretend to know what that might be).  It's been a long time since I
 have had
 similar difficulties, but in the past, a call to MM support has quickly
 solved the
 problem.

 Perhaps a 25 key keyboard will be sufficient for your needs.  You may find
 it
 annoying to have to switch octaves, so that's something to consider before
 saving a
 little money on something that may prove less than ideal after more use.
 I use an M-
 Audio Keystation 61 - reliable and efficient, but even that runs out of
 range every now
 and then.  Of course, space and portability may also be an issue.

 Chuck


 On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:

  I *think* that was what I tried before.  The
  latency made it unusable.   Maybe I didn't have
  it set up right, but there were no instructions with it - and I didn't
  have access to this fount of knowledge!
 
  I had a scan through amazon this morning, and have saved 4 or 5
  different ones in my wish list.  They are all under $100, and  most
  are
  around the $60-70 mark.   I just don't want to
  get one until I know how it is that the system should be set up to  use
 it.
 
  Phil.
 
  At 12:18 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
  You sound like a perfect candidate for the Akai LPK25.  $43 and
  change at Musicians Friend.  If you have a Guitar Center in town they
  should match that price if you show them the site:
 
  http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-lpk2
  5-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP
 
 
  Raymond Horton
  Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville
  (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
 
 
  On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have one of those cheapo roll-up
  keyboards.  I've had it for quite a while, but never tried it out.
  It's a bit too long, and
  droops off my desk, for one thing.   I have been
  thinking of getting a small keyboard for inputting to Finale.  I
  don't play piano, but I can play one line at a time.  Anyway, before
  spending any more money, I decided to try out the rubber one.
  It works, or at least it plays by itself.  Finale refuses to
  recognise it, though.  Windows recognises it as a generic usb midi
  controller, but for some reason the signal isn't being taken by
  Finale.
 
  One thing is, the usb/midi cable I have has a fork with in and out
  midi connectors on it.  The keyboard only has a single midi port.
  If I plug one end of the Y in, the led on the doodad
  flashes, but it flashes as input.   I assume that
  it is talking about input into the keyboard, but I could be wrong.
  It has happened once or twice before!  If I plug the other end in, I
  don't get either light flashing.  In both cases, it is playing the
  notes itself, but the program isn't interested.
 
  Like I said, I don't really care if this one works or not, but I
  don't want to spend money on a better one, if I can't get it to
  work.
 
  In the audio setup dialogue, I have input set to directsound - if I
  use ASIO, I don't get any output from the program at all.  For mike
  source, I have it set to primary sound capture driver - the only
  option.  When I come back into it, this field has usually set itself
  to blank.
 
  Is there some esoteric setting somewhere that I
  am missing?   The user guide is not a lot of help on this subject.
  I tried a midi controller some years back, and returned it because
  my cakewalk would not recognise it.  Oh, and it also had about 2
  seconds of latency!

Re: [Finale] MIDI woes

2013-03-27 Thread Richard Yates

I use the Casio with a MIDI to USB cable. There is latency before I hear it
through the computer so I turn that down and listen to the Casio directly
while doing input. I also had some kind of Korg that was not amplified and
could not tolerate the latency.

 -Original Message-
 From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf
Of
 Raymond Horton
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:32 PM
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] MIDI woes
 
 It sounded like Phil was likely not playing in in real time.  I have had a
USB Akai
 LPK25 for a couple of weeks, and the setup is instantaneous.  I also have
used an
 old Casio, with a midi-to-usb adapter, and that often would take jumping
through
 hoops to get the computer or Finale to recognize.  Are you able to use the
Casio with
 a non-usb input of some sort?  I thought midi input cards had gone out
with Culture
 Club?
 
 Raymond Horton
 Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT
 rayhortonmusic.com
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Richard Yates rich...@yatesguitar.com
 wrote:
  I have also found the latency in USB controllers to be too difficult
  to get used to. I tried two controllers over the years on a couple
  different machines and operating systems. For me it does not take much
  latency to be really annoying and throw off efficiency of note entry.
  (I have never played the tuba either!).
 
  So, I continue to use an ancient Casio (I found the initials 'W.A.M.'
  scratched in the bottom by some vandal) that has its own small amp and
  speakers built in.
 
  Richard Yates
 
  Chuck Israels:
  I don't believe that latency is a built in problem with either
  Finale's
  MIDI
  communication pipeline or with most conventional MIDI controller
  keyboards, so I am
  inclined to think there is something amiss in the way the software is
  set
  up (though I
  don't pretend to know what that might be).  It's been a long time
  since I
  have had
  similar difficulties, but in the past, a call to MM support has
  quickly
  solved the
  problem.
 
  Perhaps a 25 key keyboard will be sufficient for your needs.  You may
  find
  it
  annoying to have to switch octaves, so that's something to consider
  before
  saving a
  little money on something that may prove less than ideal after more
use.
  I use an M-
  Audio Keystation 61 - reliable and efficient, but even that runs out
  of
  range every now
  and then.  Of course, space and portability may also be an issue.
 
  Chuck
 
 
  On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net
wrote:
 
   I *think* that was what I tried before.  The
   latency made it unusable.   Maybe I didn't have
   it set up right, but there were no instructions with it - and I
   didn't have access to this fount of knowledge!
  
   I had a scan through amazon this morning, and have saved 4 or 5
   different ones in my wish list.  They are all under $100, and  most
   are
   around the $60-70 mark.   I just don't want to
   get one until I know how it is that the system should be set up to
   use
  it.
  
   Phil.
  
   At 12:18 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
   You sound like a perfect candidate for the Akai LPK25.  $43 and
   change at Musicians Friend.  If you have a Guitar Center in town
   they should match that price if you show them the site:
  
   http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-l
   pk2 5-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP
  
  
   Raymond Horton
   Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music,
   Edwardsville
   (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
  
  
   On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass
   bloke...@comcast.net
  wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I have one of those cheapo roll-up keyboards.  I've had it for
   quite a while, but never tried it out.
   It's a bit too long, and
   droops off my desk, for one thing.   I have been
   thinking of getting a small keyboard for inputting to Finale.  I
   don't play piano, but I can play one line at a time.  Anyway,
   before spending any more money, I decided to try out the rubber
one.
   It works, or at least it plays by itself.  Finale refuses to
   recognise it, though.  Windows recognises it as a generic usb
   midi controller, but for some reason the signal isn't being taken
   by Finale.
  
   One thing is, the usb/midi cable I have has a fork with in and
   out midi connectors on it.  The keyboard only has a single midi
port.
   If I plug one end of the Y in, the led on the doodad
   flashes, but it flashes as input.   I assume that
   it is talking about input into the keyboard, but I could be wrong.
   It has happened once or twice before!  If I plug the other end
   in, I don't get either light flashing.  In both cases, it is
   playing the notes itself, but the program isn't interested.
  
   Like I said, I don't really care if this one works or not, but I
   don't want to spend money on a better

Re: [Finale] MIDI woes

I really don't know if it *is* the software at
fault. Everyone seems to think that we all know
how to set this stuff up. The controller I had
before came with no instructions at all. The
Finale manual seems to think the same. It goes
on about making sure that the midi in and midi
out connections go to the right place. This
keyboard only has a single midi socket... Then it
refers you to the keyboard manual... The manual
for this keyboard is a little pamphlet which
doesn't even *mention* the word midi. The midi
port is not even labelled in the diagram! About
90% of it consists of a list of what 'voice' is
assigned to what number on the display.

When I go into device setup-midi setup, the
autodetect option has found my usb controller, so
the program knows it is there. So how do I tell
it to accept the input? I just followed through
all the suggested steps, but it made no difference.

I guess because this keyboard only has the single
port, it is impossible to be sure just whether it
is trying to send the data or not. I was just
able to get the keyboard sounding (more or less)
through my PC. I say more or less, because I had
to hit the keys really hard to get any
effect. This still wasn't detected in Finale...

Oh, and it plays through the speakers when the
cat walks along the keyboard too!
Phil.

At 01:41 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
I don't believe that latency is a built in
problem with either Finale's MIDI communication
pipeline or with most conventional MIDI
controller keyboards, so I am inclined to think
there is something amiss in the way the software
is set up (though I don't pretend to know what
that might be). It's been a long time since I
have had similar difficulties, but in the past,
a call to MM support has quickly solved the problem.

Perhaps a 25 key keyboard will be sufficient for
your needs. You may find it annoying to have to
switch octaves, so that's something to consider
before saving a little money on something that
may prove less than ideal after more use. I use
an M-Audio Keystation 61 - reliable and
efficient, but even that runs out of range every
now and then. Of course, space and portability may also be an issue.

Chuck

On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:

Phil.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-lpk25-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil
Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi,

Like I said, I don't really care if this one
works or not, but I don't want to spend money on
a better one, if I can't get it to work.

Is there some esoteric setting somewhere that I

Re: [Finale] MIDI woes

2013-03-27 Thread Raymond Horton

Hmm - I don't have that latency problem with the Casio, using the midi
to USB cable.


Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Richard Yates rich...@yatesguitar.com wrote:
 I use the Casio with a MIDI to USB cable. There is latency before I hear it
 through the computer so I turn that down and listen to the Casio directly
 while doing input. I also had some kind of Korg that was not amplified and
 could not tolerate the latency.

 -Original Message-
 From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf
 Of
 Raymond Horton
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:32 PM
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] MIDI woes

 It sounded like Phil was likely not playing in in real time.  I have had a
 USB Akai
 LPK25 for a couple of weeks, and the setup is instantaneous.  I also have
 used an
 old Casio, with a midi-to-usb adapter, and that often would take jumping
 through
 hoops to get the computer or Finale to recognize.  Are you able to use the
 Casio with
 a non-usb input of some sort?  I thought midi input cards had gone out
 with Culture
 Club?

 Raymond Horton
 Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT
 rayhortonmusic.com


 On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Richard Yates rich...@yatesguitar.com
 wrote:
  I have also found the latency in USB controllers to be too difficult
  to get used to. I tried two controllers over the years on a couple
  different machines and operating systems. For me it does not take much
  latency to be really annoying and throw off efficiency of note entry.
  (I have never played the tuba either!).
 
  So, I continue to use an ancient Casio (I found the initials 'W.A.M.'
  scratched in the bottom by some vandal) that has its own small amp and
  speakers built in.
 
  Richard Yates
 
  Chuck Israels:
  I don't believe that latency is a built in problem with either
  Finale's
  MIDI
  communication pipeline or with most conventional MIDI controller
  keyboards, so I am
  inclined to think there is something amiss in the way the software is
  set
  up (though I
  don't pretend to know what that might be).  It's been a long time
  since I
  have had
  similar difficulties, but in the past, a call to MM support has
  quickly
  solved the
  problem.
 
  Perhaps a 25 key keyboard will be sufficient for your needs.  You may
  find
  it
  annoying to have to switch octaves, so that's something to consider
  before
  saving a
  little money on something that may prove less than ideal after more
 use.
  I use an M-
  Audio Keystation 61 - reliable and efficient, but even that runs out
  of
  range every now
  and then.  Of course, space and portability may also be an issue.
 
  Chuck
 
 
  On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
   I *think* that was what I tried before.  The
   latency made it unusable.   Maybe I didn't have
   it set up right, but there were no instructions with it - and I
   didn't have access to this fount of knowledge!
  
   I had a scan through amazon this morning, and have saved 4 or 5
   different ones in my wish list.  They are all under $100, and  most
   are
   around the $60-70 mark.   I just don't want to
   get one until I know how it is that the system should be set up to
   use
  it.
  
   Phil.
  
   At 12:18 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
   You sound like a perfect candidate for the Akai LPK25.  $43 and
   change at Musicians Friend.  If you have a Guitar Center in town
   they should match that price if you show them the site:
  
   http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-l
   pk2 5-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP
  
  
   Raymond Horton
   Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music,
   Edwardsville
   (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
  
  
   On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass
   bloke...@comcast.net
  wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I have one of those cheapo roll-up keyboards.  I've had it for
   quite a while, but never tried it out.
   It's a bit too long, and
   droops off my desk, for one thing.   I have been
   thinking of getting a small keyboard for inputting to Finale.  I
   don't play piano, but I can play one line at a time.  Anyway,
   before spending any more money, I decided to try out the rubber
 one.
   It works, or at least it plays by itself.  Finale refuses to
   recognise it, though.  Windows recognises it as a generic usb
   midi controller, but for some reason the signal isn't being taken
   by Finale.
  
   One thing is, the usb/midi cable I have has a fork with in and
   out midi connectors on it.  The keyboard only has a single midi
 port.
   If I plug one end of the Y in, the led on the doodad
   flashes, but it flashes as input.   I assume that
   it is talking about input into the keyboard, but I

Re: [Finale] MIDI woes

I was *trying* to play in real time...

At 04:31 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
It sounded like Phil was likely not playing in in real time.  I have
had a USB Akai LPK25 for a couple of weeks, and the setup is
instantaneous.  I also have used an old Casio, with a midi-to-usb
adapter, and that often would take jumping through hoops to get the
computer or Finale to recognize.  Are you able to use the Casio with a
non-usb input of some sort?  I thought midi input cards had gone out
with Culture Club?

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Richard Yates 
rich...@yatesguitar.com wrote:
  I have also found the latency in USB controllers to be too difficult to get
  used to. I tried two controllers over the years on a couple different
  machines and operating systems. For me it does not take much latency to be
  really annoying and throw off efficiency of 
 note entry. (I have never played
  the tuba either!).
 
  So, I continue to use an ancient Casio (I found the initials 'W.A.M.'
  scratched in the bottom by some vandal) that has its own small amp and
  speakers built in.
 
  Richard Yates
 
  Chuck Israels:
  I don't believe that latency is a built in problem with either Finale's
  MIDI
  communication pipeline or with most conventional MIDI controller
  keyboards, so I am
  inclined to think there is something amiss in the way the software is set
  up (though I
  don't pretend to know what that might be).  It's been a long time since I
  have had
  similar difficulties, but in the past, a call to MM support has quickly
  solved the
  problem.
 
  Perhaps a 25 key keyboard will be sufficient for your needs.  You may find
  it
  annoying to have to switch octaves, so that's something to consider before
  saving a
  little money on something that may prove less than ideal after more use.
  I use an M-
  Audio Keystation 61 - reliable and efficient, but even that runs out of
  range every now
  and then.  Of course, space and portability may also be an issue.
 
  Chuck
 
 
  On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:
 
   I *think* that was what I tried before.  The
   latency made it unusable.   Maybe I didn't have
   it set up right, but there were no instructions with it - and I didn't
   have access to this fount of knowledge!
  
   I had a scan through amazon this morning, and have saved 4 or 5
   different ones in my wish list.  They are all under $100, and  most
   are
   around the $60-70 mark.   I just don't want to
   get one until I know how it is that the system should be set up to  use
  it.
  
   Phil.
  
   At 12:18 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
   You sound like a perfect candidate for the Akai LPK25.  $43 and
   change at Musicians Friend.  If you have a Guitar Center in town they
   should match that price if you show them the site:
  
   
 http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-lpk2  
   5-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP
  
  
   Raymond Horton
   Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville
   (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
  
  
   On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net
  wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I have one of those cheapo roll-up
   keyboards.  I've had it for quite a while, but never tried it out.
   It's a bit too long, and
   droops off my desk, for one thing.   I have been
   thinking of getting a small keyboard for inputting to Finale.  I
   don't play piano, but I can play one line at a time.  Anyway, before
   spending any more money, I decided to try out the rubber one.
   It works, or at least it plays by itself.  Finale refuses to
   recognise it, though.  Windows recognises it as a generic usb midi
   controller, but for some reason the signal isn't being taken by
   Finale.
  
   One thing is, the usb/midi cable I have has a fork with in and out
   midi connectors on it.  The keyboard only has a single midi port.
   If I plug one end of the Y in, the led on the doodad
   flashes, but it flashes as input.   I assume that
   it is talking about input into the keyboard, but I could be wrong.
   It has happened once or twice before!  If I plug the other end in, I
   don't get either light flashing.  In both cases, it is playing the
   notes itself, but the program isn't interested.
  
   Like I said, I don't really care if this one works or not, but I
   don't want to spend money on a better one, if I can't get it to
   work.
  
   In the audio setup dialogue, I have input set to directsound - if I
   use ASIO, I don't get any output from the program at all.  For mike
   source, I have it set to primary sound capture driver - the only
   option.  When I come back into it, this field has usually set itself
   to blank.
  
   Is there some esoteric setting somewhere that I
   am missing?   The user guide is not a lot of

[Finale] Midi export with lyrics

2013-02-08 Thread Jan Angermüller

Is MIDI export with lyrics still not possible in Finale 2012 ?
At least I didn't get it to work...

If so, do you have a workaround via MusicXML export and
a freeware notation/midi software that can read the
MusicXML file and export to midi with lyrics ?

I tried it with Harmony Assistant but it changed the original
midi channel settings from Finale and required a lot of tweaking.

Thanks a lot,
Jan Angermueller

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Re: [Finale] MIDI to Audio tip

2012-05-15 Thread Richard Huggins

Sometimes it has seemed to me that the quality of the audio file under the 
Export Audio feature is not as good as if I use something like Wiretap to 
capture it as it plays live. Is that even technically possible, i.e. am I 
imagining that there's a difference? 

RH

On May 14, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Randolph Peters wrote:

 Hi Finale Listers,
 
 This is an old capability, but I just learned about it now.
 
 An easy way to convert MIDI files to audio is to drag the MIDI file to iTunes 
 and then convert to audio using the audio format of your choice.
 
 There's no editing, but sometimes you just want something quick. (I know you 
 can also do this within Finale as well.)
 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI to Audio tip

2012-05-15 Thread Raymond Horton

I get uneven results from Export to Audio on WinFin 2011 and GPO.
Sometimes fine, sometimes awful.  I usually try it first, because it
is faster than real time - then if it is less than successful I record
real time to Audacity.

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com


On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Sometimes it has seemed to me that the quality of the audio file under the 
 Export Audio feature is not as good as if I use something like Wiretap to 
 capture it as it plays live. Is that even technically possible, i.e. am I 
 imagining that there's a difference?

 RH

 On May 14, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Randolph Peters wrote:

 Hi Finale Listers,

 This is an old capability, but I just learned about it now.

 An easy way to convert MIDI files to audio is to drag the MIDI file to 
 iTunes and then convert to audio using the audio format of your choice.

 There's no editing, but sometimes you just want something quick. (I know you 
 can also do this within Finale as well.)

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Re: [Finale] MIDI to Audio tip

2012-05-15 Thread Eric Dannewitz

The only way I get something that sounds acceptable is to export a song out of 
Finale via Midi file and then use something like Digital Performer or Logic. I 
have spent way too much time trying to get Finale to generate my arrangements 
correctly (which it never really does) and it is 5 times faster to use a tool 
like Digital Performer to quickly fix the Midi from Finale. 

-- 
On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:


 I get uneven results from Export to Audio on WinFin 2011 and GPO.
 Sometimes fine, sometimes awful. I usually try it first, because it
 is faster than real time - then if it is less than successful I record
 real time to Audacity.
 

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Re: [Finale] Finale Midi to Encore

2011-12-02 Thread John Hinchey

Hi Linda,

The latest version of Encore does import musicXML files.  It's not as developed 
as the MusicXML built into
Finale and Sibelius.  It will not import lyrics, chords symbols and many other 
elements.  But it will give you
notes and I believe articulations and some text much better than a MIDI file. 

I've had some Encore files come through with rhythmic problems  

Best,
John

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Nashville Tennessee
Phone: 615-397-3675
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[Finale] Finale MIDI to Encore

2011-12-01 Thread Linda Worsley

I have a client who is, unfortunately, an Encore user.  I have sent him
some Standard MIDI files I made with Finale.  He has tried to open them in
Encore, so that he can see the notes  (I easily open his Encore-generated
MIDI files in Finale and see the notes just fine.)  Is there something I
am not doing right?  Or is Encore hopeless?

Thanks for any clues.

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] Finale MIDI to Encore

2011-12-01 Thread Michael Mathew

Linda,

I just went to the support area for finale and posed the question about encore 
file format and they provide some answers about supported file formats at 
Finalemusic.com, support, knowledge base, and search for encore file format and 
see if their suggestions solve the problem.

Can you save as an encore file?

Makemusic just purchase the Dolet company and their xml translator engines for 
saving in the xml format so that all the notation applications can share .xml 
files.

Michael
mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com
http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl
http://oregonmts.com/mathew/



 From: Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 1:51 PM
Subject: [Finale] Finale MIDI to Encore
 
I have a client who is, unfortunately, an Encore user.  I have sent him
some Standard MIDI files I made with Finale.  He has tried to open them in
Encore, so that he can see the notes  (I easily open his Encore-generated
MIDI files in Finale and see the notes just fine.)  Is there something I
am not doing right?  Or is Encore hopeless?

Thanks for any clues.

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] midi keyboard noise question

Experts:

I just had to trash and rebuild my preferences in order to get Finale to 
respond to Undo commands (first time that has ever stopped working for me), and 
in getting my midi Keystation 61es to reconnect fo Finale - something annoying 
has started.  When I release any key on the keyboard, a faint percussion sound 
(like a temple block tuned to C5).  I doesn't interfere with anything (except 
what remains of my sanity) - it's just annoying.  anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,

Chuck





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Portland, OR 97209-316

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Re: [Finale] midi keyboard noise question

2011-10-05 Thread Darcy James Argue

Hi Chuck,

Do you have the Audio MIDI Setup window open, by any chance? Does it go away if 
you close it or deselect Test Setup?

Cheers,

- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org



On 5 Oct 2011, at 7:58 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

 Experts:
 
 I just had to trash and rebuild my preferences in order to get Finale to 
 respond to Undo commands (first time that has ever stopped working for me), 
 and in getting my midi Keystation 61es to reconnect fo Finale - something 
 annoying has started.  When I release any key on the keyboard, a faint 
 percussion sound (like a temple block tuned to C5).  I doesn't interfere with 
 anything (except what remains of my sanity) - it's just annoying.  anyone 
 have any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 
 
 Chuck Israels
 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807
 Portland, OR 97209-316
 
 land line: (971) 255-1167
 cell phone: (360) 201-3434
 
 www.chuckisraels.com
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Re: [Finale] midi keyboard noise question

Hi Darcy,

I think it started when I was messing with this and opened that window, and 
clicked Test Setup.  Now I can't seem to get rid of it.

I opened that window again - selected and the deselected Test Setup, and it 
still does it.

Obviously - something I've done, but I don't know what.

Chuck




On Oct 5, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

 Hi Chuck,
 
 Do you have the Audio MIDI Setup window open, by any chance? Does it go away 
 if you close it or deselect Test Setup?
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 
 
 On 5 Oct 2011, at 7:58 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
 
 Experts:
 
 I just had to trash and rebuild my preferences in order to get Finale to 
 respond to Undo commands (first time that has ever stopped working for me), 
 and in getting my midi Keystation 61es to reconnect fo Finale - something 
 annoying has started.  When I release any key on the keyboard, a faint 
 percussion sound (like a temple block tuned to C5).  I doesn't interfere 
 with anything (except what remains of my sanity) - it's just annoying.  
 anyone have any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 
 
 Chuck Israels
 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807
 Portland, OR 97209-316
 
 land line: (971) 255-1167
 cell phone: (360) 201-3434
 
 www.chuckisraels.com
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Re: [Finale] midi keyboard noise question

2011-10-05 Thread Darcy James Argue

Hi Chuck,

When it's on (i.e., the button is solid blue instead of gray) Test Setup 
makes a noise somewhat like what you describe. 

If you turn it on, do you hear two separate chimes, or just the one?

Cheers,

- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org



On 5 Oct 2011, at 9:01 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

 Hi Darcy,
 
 I think it started when I was messing with this and opened that window, and 
 clicked Test Setup.  Now I can't seem to get rid of it.
 
 I opened that window again - selected and the deselected Test Setup, and it 
 still does it.
 
 Obviously - something I've done, but I don't know what.
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 5, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
 
 Hi Chuck,
 
 Do you have the Audio MIDI Setup window open, by any chance? Does it go away 
 if you close it or deselect Test Setup?
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 
 
 On 5 Oct 2011, at 7:58 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
 
 Experts:
 
 I just had to trash and rebuild my preferences in order to get Finale to 
 respond to Undo commands (first time that has ever stopped working for me), 
 and in getting my midi Keystation 61es to reconnect fo Finale - something 
 annoying has started.  When I release any key on the keyboard, a faint 
 percussion sound (like a temple block tuned to C5).  I doesn't interfere 
 with anything (except what remains of my sanity) - it's just annoying.  
 anyone have any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 
 
 Chuck Israels
 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807
 Portland, OR 97209-316
 
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 cell phone: (360) 201-3434
 
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Re: [Finale] midi keyboard noise question

2011-10-05 Thread mjolnir

 Experts:

 ... my midi Keystation 61es to reconnect fo Finale - ...
 When I release any key on the keyboard, a
 faint percussion sound (like a temple block tuned to C5).  I doesn't
 interfere with anything (except what remains of my sanity) - it's just
 annoying.  anyone have any ideas?

First thing I'd try is to turn the MIDI device off and back ion.

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Re: [Finale] midi keyboard noise question

Thanks - tried unplugging and re-plugging, no change.

Maybe I'll restart the whole computer - sometimes that's all it takes.

Chuck


On Oct 5, 2011, at 6:24 PM, mjol...@ticnet.com mjol...@ticnet.com wrote:

 Experts:
 
 ... my midi Keystation 61es to reconnect fo Finale - ...
 When I release any key on the keyboard, a
 faint percussion sound (like a temple block tuned to C5).  I doesn't
 interfere with anything (except what remains of my sanity) - it's just
 annoying.  anyone have any ideas?
 
 First thing I'd try is to turn the MIDI device off and back ion.
 
 BS
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] midi keyboard noise question


On Oct 5, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

 Hi Chuck,
 
 When it's on (i.e., the button is solid blue instead of gray) Test Setup 
 makes a noise somewhat like what you describe. 
 
 If you turn it on, do you hear two separate chimes, or just the one?


Test Setup - off (gray). One bonk - and yes, it is the same sound, on release 
of the key - not on pressing it.

- a few degrees less than cheerful,

Chuck









 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 
 
 On 5 Oct 2011, at 9:01 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
 
 Hi Darcy,
 
 I think it started when I was messing with this and opened that window, and 
 clicked Test Setup.  Now I can't seem to get rid of it.
 
 I opened that window again - selected and the deselected Test Setup, and 
 it still does it.
 
 Obviously - something I've done, but I don't know what.
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 5, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
 
 Hi Chuck,
 
 Do you have the Audio MIDI Setup window open, by any chance? Does it go 
 away if you close it or deselect Test Setup?
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 
 
 On 5 Oct 2011, at 7:58 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
 
 Experts:
 
 I just had to trash and rebuild my preferences in order to get Finale to 
 respond to Undo commands (first time that has ever stopped working for 
 me), and in getting my midi Keystation 61es to reconnect fo Finale - 
 something annoying has started.  When I release any key on the keyboard, a 
 faint percussion sound (like a temple block tuned to C5).  I doesn't 
 interfere with anything (except what remains of my sanity) - it's just 
 annoying.  anyone have any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 
 
 Chuck Israels
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