Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts issue
I load 12 shared fonts in a different swf's separately. I have tested the application in a different pc. The player version is 8. I think the problem is when I load the swf's in one movie , his content needs to redistribute it to the others movies(similar to use any Macromedia component). I put a real example: My swf movie that contains the shared fonts is loaded in a content of other movie. This movie also is loaded in my main movie with another loadMovie. The real situation is that my shared fonts movie is loaded in the third level of my main application( after 2 loadMovies), so I think that when I load the fonts, they need to do a copy of the library on his father movie, so, for this reason, the shared fonts are temporally located in the 3 library movies. Is it true? How you will do this? Best regards, David. Marcelo de Moraes Serpa escribió: Hello David, How many fonts in the shared library swf? Maybe the player version, pc specs and browser would also be good for us to try to help you. - Marcelo. On 5/24/06, David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I have a big problem with shared fonts. I am doing an editor that has a list of fonts to choose. This fonts are dynamically loaded from a swf with his embed font. When I try to load 10 fonts in a movieclip, with his preload for each one, the application runs well, but if I load this movie from my main movie, via loadMovie, my application turns very slowly. In my main I haven't any shared font. Any clue? David. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] PDF generation Though Flash
Hi All, I am a new bee to this forum. I have a small query as follows : Does anybody know how to generate a PDF through flash? Is there any 3rd party tool available which will take the Flash Content and generate pdf out of it? Thanks and Regards, Sachin M Desai ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] PDF generation Though Flash
Hi, There could be components like blazePDF available to generate pdf from flash Which may generate jpg and then pdf Check out http://www.blazepdf.com/ it's a ready made component Mayur -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sachin Desai Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:22 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] PDF generation Though Flash Hi All, I am a new bee to this forum. I have a small query as follows : Does anybody know how to generate a PDF through flash? Is there any 3rd party tool available which will take the Flash Content and generate pdf out of it? Thanks and Regards, Sachin M Desai ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Image loading issue
Hi all,
I have a quiz that I created 2 years ago (in Flash MX) that brings in different
question types (text type, single image question type, 3ximage question type
etc) from an XML file.
Only now when coming to use the quiz again and needing to have a couple of
'3ximage questions' appear one after another have I spotted an issue. The copy
is updating for the question but the images are not re-loading.
There is a lot of code, so without sharing it all I think the issue is with the
code below. Can anyone spot anything obvious that would stop the images
re-loading?
FRAME 1 OF 3xIMAGE QUESTION MC
--
stop();
--
FRAME 2 OF 3xIMAGE QUESTION MC
--
currentQuestion = _root.quiz.questions[_root.cq-1];
//Gets current question data and puts in variable
myLoader = new com.qlod.LoaderClass();
for( var i=1; i4; i++){
currentImage = currentQuestion.childNodes[i].attributes.src;
//Gets url for image
var mc = createEmptyMovieClip(holder + i, i);
var url = currentImage;
myLoader.load(mc, url);
}
holder1._x = 11;
holder1._y = 119;
holder2._x = 177;
holder2._y = 119;
holder3._x = 343;
holder3._y = 119;
stop();
--
Many thanks for reading. Any pointers much appreciated.
Adrian
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[Flashcoders] Problems with Tween Class
Hi all,
Basically i attachMovie my character (which is an AS2.0 class extended
MovieClip) to _root, then move it back and forwards across the screen
using the Tween class, unloadMovie my character, go to a different
frame, attachMovie my character back again, but this time it seems as
though there are two or more Tween objects trying to control my
character. If i reattachMovie using a different instance name, then
it will work fine.
So how do i completely unload my MC and my Tween so that there are no
references hanging around ?? How can i find out how many references
there are for a given object (similar to the ref count in lingo
objects in Director) ?? And is this only happening because of AS 2.0
?
Heres my stripped down test movie:
mc with ID of idRedbelly1, AS2.0 class of code.Crawlie2 which contains:
--
import mx.transitions.Tween;
import mx.transitions.easing.*;
class code.Crawlie2 extends MovieClip {
private var Walker:Tween;
public function StartWalking(){
Walker = new Tween(this, _x,None.easeNone,this._x,this._x +
200,1,true);
Walker.onMotionFinished = function(){this.yoyo();};
};
};
--
frame 1, symbol named btn on the stage, the following as a frame script:
--
btn.onPress = function() {
_root.test.removeMovieClip();
_root.test.unloadMovie();
_root.gotoAndPlay(part2);
}
_root.attachMovie(idRedbelly1,test,_root.getNextHighestDepth(),{_x:50,_y:50});
_root.test.StartWalking();
stop();
--
frame 10 with marker name of part2, following frame script:
--
_root.attachMovie(idRedbelly1,test,_root.getNextHighestDepth(),{_x:50,_y:25});
_root.test.StartWalking();
stop();
--
I also tried a version that set Walker to null before i unloaded the
MC but that didn't work either.
Any help is greatly appreciated,
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Re: [Flashcoders] Problems with Tween Class
It's early in the morning, but it seems to me your not finishing the
tween in your test. Try calling the stop() method before you unload.
There may be a call to setInterval that doesn't get cleared if you
don't.
That begs the question of why you want to unload and reload it. there
must be a way for you to save the extra load. What about setting
visible to false or moving it off stage?
On 5/25/06, Nik Derewianka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
Basically i attachMovie my character (which is an AS2.0 class extended
MovieClip) to _root, then move it back and forwards across the screen
using the Tween class, unloadMovie my character, go to a different
frame, attachMovie my character back again, but this time it seems as
though there are two or more Tween objects trying to control my
character. If i reattachMovie using a different instance name, then
it will work fine.
So how do i completely unload my MC and my Tween so that there are no
references hanging around ?? How can i find out how many references
there are for a given object (similar to the ref count in lingo
objects in Director) ?? And is this only happening because of AS 2.0
?
Heres my stripped down test movie:
mc with ID of idRedbelly1, AS2.0 class of code.Crawlie2 which contains:
--
import mx.transitions.Tween;
import mx.transitions.easing.*;
class code.Crawlie2 extends MovieClip {
private var Walker:Tween;
public function StartWalking(){
Walker = new Tween(this, _x,None.easeNone,this._x,this._x +
200,1,true);
Walker.onMotionFinished = function(){this.yoyo();};
};
};
--
frame 1, symbol named btn on the stage, the following as a frame script:
--
btn.onPress = function() {
_root.test.removeMovieClip();
_root.test.unloadMovie();
_root.gotoAndPlay(part2);
}
_root.attachMovie(idRedbelly1,test,_root.getNextHighestDepth(),{_x:50,_y:50});
_root.test.StartWalking();
stop();
--
frame 10 with marker name of part2, following frame script:
--
_root.attachMovie(idRedbelly1,test,_root.getNextHighestDepth(),{_x:50,_y:25});
_root.test.StartWalking();
stop();
--
I also tried a version that set Walker to null before i unloaded the
MC but that didn't work either.
Any help is greatly appreciated,
--
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:: freelance director programmer ::
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[Flashcoders] cellRender with comboBox: setting the dropdown.rowHeight?
Hey again. I'm trying to set the comboBox cellRenderer I'm using to have a dropdown.rowHeight of 60 (big text) -- since I'm using the cellRender in a dataGrid, this slows everything down to a crawl. Is this the only way that I can set a comboBox's rowHeight? Is there anyway I can do it with setStyle? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts issue
What about loading those fonts into the main movie? I did it on my flash site and it worked just fine. -- Anggie Bratadinata Web|Graphic|Flash Jl. Raya Langsep 21 Malang - East Java I N D O N E S I A http://design.ibshastautama.com David Serrano wrote: I load 12 shared fonts in a different swf's separately. I have tested the application in a different pc. The player version is 8. I think the problem is when I load the swf's in one movie , his content needs to redistribute it to the others movies(similar to use any Macromedia component). I put a real example: My swf movie that contains the shared fonts is loaded in a content of other movie. This movie also is loaded in my main movie with another loadMovie. The real situation is that my shared fonts movie is loaded in the third level of my main application( after 2 loadMovies), so I think that when I load the fonts, they need to do a copy of the library on his father movie, so, for this reason, the shared fonts are temporally located in the 3 library movies. Is it true? How you will do this? Best regards, David. Marcelo de Moraes Serpa escribió: Hello David, How many fonts in the shared library swf? Maybe the player version, pc specs and browser would also be good for us to try to help you. - Marcelo. On 5/24/06, David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I have a big problem with shared fonts. I am doing an editor that has a list of fonts to choose. This fonts are dynamically loaded from a swf with his embed font. When I try to load 10 fonts in a movieclip, with his preload for each one, the application runs well, but if I load this movie from my main movie, via loadMovie, my application turns very slowly. In my main I haven't any shared font. Any clue? David. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Obviously this may sound harsh, but because the app you wrote was buggier or harder to build isn't a reflection of the technology in my opinion. I've been following this thread pretty closely and have begun going through all the responses. Flex to me has seemed to discredit a lot of the flash developers out there buy putting advanced functionality at the finger tips of the average user. I do think that flex will eventually be leveraged correctly, but the idea that a whole new IDE must be built simply to build form based applications is bizarre to me. I have to imagine that the potential for Flex would extend far beyond Form RIA or else it wouldn't exist. But then again, that's macromedia for you. The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Merrill, Jason wrote: At my previous employer, wanted to build a project with Flex 1.5, client couldn't/wouldn't pay for it, so we built it with Flash - took 5 times longer, and was 5-times buggier but it was do-able. Basically had to write the same kinds of classes for Flash that macromedia already built for Flex, and make it renderable by descriptive XML. It was a fun project, but I wish I had Flex. It was a very large interactive portal with different elements which also displayed metrics dashboards. Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Coning Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:45 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE This may be a dumb question, but has anyone ever developed a project in Flex and towards the end decided that Flash would have been a better tool for the project? Or vice-a-versa? If so, why? I'm trying to determine if there are any pitfalls of deciding to use Flex over Flash for larger projects. Hope that makes sense... Doug Coning Senior Web Development Programmer FORUM Solutions, LLC This e-mail and any attachment(s) are intended for the specified recipient(s) only and are legally protected. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to sender's e-mail address with notification of the error and then destroy this message in all electronic and physical forms. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Hi, I' trying to get the class name of a class in order to serialize a scene.
Since I don´'t have a traditional programming background I have a hard time
searching for this since I really don't know the vocabulary.
In this code I'd like the trace function to output MyClass:
class MyClass extends MovieClip {
function MyClass (){
trace (this.className)
}
Is this possible? Or is this information lost when the code is compiled?
Thanks for any help!
/David
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Obviously this may sound harsh, but because the app you wrote was buggier or harder to build isn't a reflection of the technology in my opinion. It is to me. There are a lot of things you can do with Flex in a day that would take weeks to do in straight Flash/Actionscript. This is a fact. For an example, one of the features of the application I worked on required a Flex-like panel (if you know what I mean by a Flex panel) to contain content that could be built on the fly, to any size, look, feel, etc. Flex has a built in Panel renderer to host content. You create a panel with a single XML statement - takes literally 5 seconds. To do this in Flash, it required me to build and test a large Panel class that would scale and render the panel correctly - I won't tell you how long it took, but it was a lot longer than 45 seconds. The result was the same, but the time spent was drastically different. Now, the Actionscript class I built was far more customizable than the Flex one because I had access to everything that rendered the panel, but I didn't need all that for the project. That to me is a representation of the different strengths each app has. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:44 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Obviously this may sound harsh, but because the app you wrote was buggier or harder to build isn't a reflection of the technology in my opinion. I've been following this thread pretty closely and have begun going through all the responses. Flex to me has seemed to discredit a lot of the flash developers out there buy putting advanced functionality at the finger tips of the average user. I do think that flex will eventually be leveraged correctly, but the idea that a whole new IDE must be built simply to build form based applications is bizarre to me. I have to imagine that the potential for Flex would extend far beyond Form RIA or else it wouldn't exist. But then again, that's macromedia for you. The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Merrill, Jason wrote: At my previous employer, wanted to build a project with Flex 1.5, client couldn't/wouldn't pay for it, so we built it with Flash - took 5 times longer, and was 5-times buggier but it was do-able. Basically had to write the same kinds of classes for Flash that macromedia already built for Flex, and make it renderable by descriptive XML. It was a fun project, but I wish I had Flex. It was a very large interactive portal with different elements which also displayed metrics dashboards. Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Coning Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:45 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE This may be a dumb question, but has anyone ever developed a project in Flex and towards the end decided that Flash would have been a better tool for the project? Or vice-a-versa? If so, why? I'm trying to determine if there are any pitfalls of deciding to use Flex over Flash for larger projects. Hope that makes sense... Doug Coning Senior Web Development Programmer FORUM Solutions, LLC This e-mail and any attachment(s) are intended for the specified recipient(s) only and are legally protected. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to sender's e-mail address with notification of the error and then destroy this message in all electronic and physical forms. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Given:
class MyClass extends MovieClip {
function MyClass (){
trace (this.className)
}
The name of the class is MyClass - or do you mean the instance name?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Well, I think you should just stick with the tool that works for you. I´m currently using Flash 8 IDE to build the layout and assets, and, for me, it is pretty good to build forms as well. The rest I do outside Flash, in FlashDevelop and compile with MTASC ;) It´s just another way to build the views... and there are tons of ways you can do that... what really matters to me is the advent of AS3 that is for sure above all this discussion... Marcelo. On 5/25/06, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously this may sound harsh, but because the app you wrote was buggier or harder to build isn't a reflection of the technology in my opinion. I've been following this thread pretty closely and have begun going through all the responses. Flex to me has seemed to discredit a lot of the flash developers out there buy putting advanced functionality at the finger tips of the average user. I do think that flex will eventually be leveraged correctly, but the idea that a whole new IDE must be built simply to build form based applications is bizarre to me. I have to imagine that the potential for Flex would extend far beyond Form RIA or else it wouldn't exist. But then again, that's macromedia for you. The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Merrill, Jason wrote: At my previous employer, wanted to build a project with Flex 1.5, client couldn't/wouldn't pay for it, so we built it with Flash - took 5 times longer, and was 5-times buggier but it was do-able. Basically had to write the same kinds of classes for Flash that macromedia already built for Flex, and make it renderable by descriptive XML. It was a fun project, but I wish I had Flex. It was a very large interactive portal with different elements which also displayed metrics dashboards. Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Coning Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:45 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE This may be a dumb question, but has anyone ever developed a project in Flex and towards the end decided that Flash would have been a better tool for the project? Or vice-a-versa? If so, why? I'm trying to determine if there are any pitfalls of deciding to use Flex over Flash for larger projects. Hope that makes sense... Doug Coning Senior Web Development Programmer FORUM Solutions, LLC This e-mail and any attachment(s) are intended for the specified recipient(s) only and are legally protected. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to sender's e-mail address with notification of the error and then destroy this message in all electronic and physical forms. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Obviously this may sound harsh, but because the app you wrote was buggier or harder to build isn't a reflection of the technology in my opinion. It is to me. There are a lot of things you can do with Flex in a day that would take weeks to do in straight Flash/Actionscript. This is a fact. For an example, one of the features of the application I worked on required a Flex-like panel (if you know what I mean by a Flex panel) to contain content that could be built on the fly, to any size, look, feel, etc. Flex has a built in Panel renderer to host content. You create a panel with a single XML statement - takes literally 5 seconds. To do this in Flash, it required me to build and test a large Panel class that would scale and render the panel correctly - I won't tell you how long it took, but it was a lot longer than 45 seconds. The result was the same, but the time spent was drastically different. Now, the Actionscript class I built was far more customizable than the Flex one because I had access to everything that rendered the panel, but I didn't need all that for the project. That to me is a representation of the different strengths each app has. I would say it's far from being an advantage of Flex itself, but more of the component library with MXML representation. The same thing can be done in Flash/ActionScript2. For instance the people of the ActionStep project worked on such an XML representation that could instanciate the UI. Nicolas ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
would say it's far from being an advantage of Flex itself, but more of the component library with MXML representation. The same thing can be done in Flash/ActionScript2. For instance the people of the ActionStep project worked on such an XML representation that could instanciate the UI. Nicolas Yes. I think the technology (flash platform) should be put above all this and then adobe can build different IDE´s gueared towards different needs, so, for example, form-based RIA´s would be faster to build with FlexBuilder and more customized apps with Flash IDE, but both would use the SAME framework and compiler ;) Just my 2 cents, - Marcelo. On 5/25/06, Nicolas Cannasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously this may sound harsh, but because the app you wrote was buggier or harder to build isn't a reflection of the technology in my opinion. It is to me. There are a lot of things you can do with Flex in a day that would take weeks to do in straight Flash/Actionscript. This is a fact. For an example, one of the features of the application I worked on required a Flex-like panel (if you know what I mean by a Flex panel) to contain content that could be built on the fly, to any size, look, feel, etc. Flex has a built in Panel renderer to host content. You create a panel with a single XML statement - takes literally 5 seconds. To do this in Flash, it required me to build and test a large Panel class that would scale and render the panel correctly - I won't tell you how long it took, but it was a lot longer than 45 seconds. The result was the same, but the time spent was drastically different. Now, the Actionscript class I built was far more customizable than the Flex one because I had access to everything that rendered the panel, but I didn't need all that for the project. That to me is a representation of the different strengths each app has. I would say it's far from being an advantage of Flex itself, but more of the component library with MXML representation. The same thing can be done in Flash/ActionScript2. For instance the people of the ActionStep project worked on such an XML representation that could instanciate the UI. Nicolas ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
For instance the people of the ActionStep project worked on such an XML representation that could instanciate the UI. Funny, that's essentially the same thing I was doing on this project - the Panel was defined in XML, and a Panel class I wrote rendered it in the player. It just took a whole lot longer than it would have if I could have done it in Flex. In Flex, you skip the class writing and go straight to the XML. You just miss out on some of the added customization you get with Flash/Actionscript rendering. Christian, if you think I'm somehow bashing traditional Flash development, you're completely missing my point. :) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cannasse Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:03 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Obviously this may sound harsh, but because the app you wrote was buggier or harder to build isn't a reflection of the technology in my opinion. It is to me. There are a lot of things you can do with Flex in a day that would take weeks to do in straight Flash/Actionscript. This is a fact. For an example, one of the features of the application I worked on required a Flex-like panel (if you know what I mean by a Flex panel) to contain content that could be built on the fly, to any size, look, feel, etc. Flex has a built in Panel renderer to host content. You create a panel with a single XML statement - takes literally 5 seconds. To do this in Flash, it required me to build and test a large Panel class that would scale and render the panel correctly - I won't tell you how long it took, but it was a lot longer than 45 seconds. The result was the same, but the time spent was drastically different. Now, the Actionscript class I built was far more customizable than the Flex one because I had access to everything that rendered the panel, but I didn't need all that for the project. That to me is a representation of the different strengths each app has. I would say it's far from being an advantage of Flex itself, but more of the component library with MXML representation. The same thing can be done in Flash/ActionScript2. For instance the people of the ActionStep project worked on such an XML representation that could instanciate the UI. Nicolas ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Yes, i know that the class name is MyClass when writing the code, but does
the object know what class it is constucted from at runtime?
I want to save out scene objects to a XML-file and need to save what class
the objects are constructed from (or their linkage ID in set in the Flash
IDE).
/David
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Given:
class MyClass extends MovieClip {
function MyClass (){
trace (this.className)
}
The name of the class is MyClass - or do you mean the instance name?
Jason Merrill
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RE: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
You mean the Class type then - for a custom class, I think you would
have to create a property to hold that.
class MyClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyClass
}
class MyOtherClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyOtherClass
}
In Flash:
var a:MyClass = new MyClass();
var b:MyClass = new MyOtherClass();
trace(a.type)
trace(b.type)
Name usually refers to the instance name.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
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Of David Skoglund
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Yes, i know that the class name is MyClass when writing the
code, but does the object know what class it is constucted
from at runtime?
I want to save out scene objects to a XML-file and need to
save what class the objects are constructed from (or their
linkage ID in set in the Flash IDE).
/David
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Given:
class MyClass extends MovieClip {
function MyClass (){
trace (this.className)
}
The name of the class is MyClass - or do you mean the
instance name?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Have you looked into FDS? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flexdata_services2/ When you say: develop the front ends in flash You mean the Flash IDE? What makes you think developing in Flex does not allow you to communicate with any traditional back-end? Flex Builder is just an IDE. The end result is an swf the same as with the Flash IDE. It's just that an swf published from Flash is currently a different version. regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] PHP :: Dimensions of a SWF file?
Hi Eric, Is there a way to know via PHP the dimensions (height width) of a SWF file? I need this information to construct an html interface with all kinds of SWF loaded via UFO script! The built-in getimagesize() function supports SWF files: http://uk.php.net/getimagesize Enjoy! -- Steve Webster Head of Development Featurecreep Ltd. http://www.featurecreep.com 14 Orchard Street, Bristol, BS1 5EH 0117 905 5047 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Object's popertys definition prob lem ¿?
Hi there, I have a problem. This class doesn't work correctly.
When I create an Object, all it's property's values become undefined even if I
Insert Items trough the Nueva_Ruta method. When I Call the SHOW ALL method
for tracing , all Array items are empty/undefined.
I really need help about it.
I don't understand this behavior. I'm Using Flash Develop.
Thanks a lot.
//--CLASS --
class Ruta
{
//-
private var cantidad:Number;
private var ruta:Array;
private var nombre_ruta:Array;
//-CONSTRUCTOR
public function Ruta() {
cantidad = 0;
}
//- INSERT METHOD
public function Nueva_Ruta(nombre:String, pruta:String):Void{
ruta.push(pruta);
nombre_ruta.push(nombre);
cantidad++;
}
//-- SHOW ALL
public function Todas_las_Rutas():Array {
var nombres_rutas:Array = new Array;
for(var i:Number = 0; i cantidad ; i++){
nombres_rutas[i] = nombre_ruta[i] + ( + ruta[i] + );
}
return nombres_rutas;
}
}
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Re: [Flashcoders] PHP :: Dimensions of a SWF file?
Well, you learn something new every day... *throws away existing code*. Thanks, Steve! Ian On 5/25/06, Steve Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The built-in getimagesize() function supports SWF files: http://uk.php.net/getimagesize Enjoy! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] PHP :: Dimensions of a SWF file?
Thanks! That ASP class reads the header of the SWF file. Is this header the same between flash versions and stable for a while ;-) A+ Ashwan Wadhwa a écrit : This is in ASP, but you could find alternative commands in PHP: http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/webtech/tips/t102001-1.shtml Ashwan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Éric Thibault Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:42 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] PHP :: Dimensions of a SWF file? Hello all! Is there a way to know via PHP the dimensions (height width) of a SWF file? I need this information to construct an html interface with all kinds of SWF loaded via UFO script! Thanks a million! -- === Éric Thibault Programmeur analyste Réseau de valorisation de l'enseignement Université Laval, pavillon Félix-Antoine Savard Québec, Canada Tel.: 656-2131 poste 18015 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Avis relatif à la confidentialité / Notice of Confidentiality / Advertencia de confidencialidad http://www.rec.ulaval.ca/lce/securite/confidentialite.htm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- === Éric Thibault Programmeur analyste Réseau de valorisation de l'enseignement Université Laval, pavillon Félix-Antoine Savard Québec, Canada Tel.: 656-2131 poste 18015 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Avis relatif à la confidentialité / Notice of Confidentiality / Advertencia de confidencialidad http://www.rec.ulaval.ca/lce/securite/confidentialite.htm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] PHP :: Dimensions of a SWF file?
SUPER! Thanks! 8-) Steve Webster a écrit : Hi Eric, Is there a way to know via PHP the dimensions (height width) of a SWF file? I need this information to construct an html interface with all kinds of SWF loaded via UFO script! The built-in getimagesize() function supports SWF files: http://uk.php.net/getimagesize Enjoy! --Steve Webster Head of Development Featurecreep Ltd. http://www.featurecreep.com 14 Orchard Street, Bristol, BS1 5EH 0117 905 5047 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- === Éric Thibault Programmeur analyste Réseau de valorisation de l'enseignement Université Laval, pavillon Félix-Antoine Savard Québec, Canada Tel.: 656-2131 poste 18015 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Avis relatif à la confidentialité / Notice of Confidentiality / Advertencia de confidencialidad http://www.rec.ulaval.ca/lce/securite/confidentialite.htm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Object's popertys definition pro blem ¿?
If i`m correct, your constructor should contain:
nombre_ruta = new Array();
HTH
Wouter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge
Antonio Diaz Gutierrez
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:53 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: [Flashcoders] Object's popertys definition problem ¿?
Hi there, I have a problem. This class doesn't work correctly.
When I create an Object, all it's property's values become undefined even if
I Insert Items trough the Nueva_Ruta method. When I Call the SHOW ALL
method for tracing , all Array items are empty/undefined.
I really need help about it.
I don't understand this behavior. I'm Using Flash Develop.
Thanks a lot.
//--CLASS -- class Ruta
{
//-
private var cantidad:Number;
private var ruta:Array;
private var nombre_ruta:Array;
//-CONSTRUCTOR
public function Ruta() {
cantidad = 0;
}
//- INSERT METHOD
public function Nueva_Ruta(nombre:String, pruta:String):Void{
ruta.push(pruta);
nombre_ruta.push(nombre);
cantidad++;
}
//-- SHOW ALL
public function Todas_las_Rutas():Array {
var nombres_rutas:Array = new Array;
for(var i:Number = 0; i cantidad ; i++){
nombres_rutas[i] = nombre_ruta[i] + ( + ruta[i] + );
}
return nombres_rutas;
}
}
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RE: [Flashcoders] PHP :: Dimensions of a SWF file?
I haven't tried that code for version 8 swf. It worked fine for version 7 and 6 when we used it with C#. A- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Éric Thibault Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:03 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] PHP :: Dimensions of a SWF file? Thanks! That ASP class reads the header of the SWF file. Is this header the same between flash versions and stable for a while ;-) A+ Ashwan Wadhwa a écrit : This is in ASP, but you could find alternative commands in PHP: http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/webtech/tips/t102001-1.shtml Ashwan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Éric Thibault Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:42 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] PHP :: Dimensions of a SWF file? Hello all! Is there a way to know via PHP the dimensions (height width) of a SWF file? I need this information to construct an html interface with all kinds of SWF loaded via UFO script! Thanks a million! -- === Éric Thibault Programmeur analyste Réseau de valorisation de l'enseignement Université Laval, pavillon Félix-Antoine Savard Québec, Canada Tel.: 656-2131 poste 18015 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Avis relatif à la confidentialité / Notice of Confidentiality / Advertencia de confidencialidad http://www.rec.ulaval.ca/lce/securite/confidentialite.htm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- === Éric Thibault Programmeur analyste Réseau de valorisation de l'enseignement Université Laval, pavillon Félix-Antoine Savard Québec, Canada Tel.: 656-2131 poste 18015 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Avis relatif à la confidentialité / Notice of Confidentiality / Advertencia de confidencialidad http://www.rec.ulaval.ca/lce/securite/confidentialite.htm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Object's popertys definition p roblem ¿?
Thanks Muzak, I'm blind. Thanks a lot.
-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Muzak
Enviado el: jueves, 25 de mayo de 2006 10:13
Para: Flashcoders mailing list
Asunto: Re: [Flashcoders] Object's popertys definition problem ¿?
you have to create/set the array's in the constructor.
private var cantidad:Number;
private var ruta:Array;
private var nombre_ruta:Array;
//-CONSTRUCTOR
public function Ruta() {
ruta = new Array();
nombre_ruta = new Array();
cantidad = 0;
}
regards,
Muzak
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From: Jorge Antonio Diaz Gutierrez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:52 PM
Subject: [Flashcoders] Object's popertys definition problem ¿?
Hi there, I have a problem. This class doesn't work correctly.
When I create an Object, all it's property's values become undefined even if I
Insert Items trough the Nueva_Ruta method. When I
Call the SHOW ALL method for tracing , all Array items are empty/undefined.
I really need help about it.
I don't understand this behavior. I'm Using Flash Develop.
Thanks a lot.
//--CLASS --
class Ruta
{
//-
private var cantidad:Number;
private var ruta:Array;
private var nombre_ruta:Array;
//-CONSTRUCTOR
public function Ruta() {
cantidad = 0;
}
//- INSERT METHOD
public function Nueva_Ruta(nombre:String, pruta:String):Void{
ruta.push(pruta);
nombre_ruta.push(nombre);
cantidad++;
}
//-- SHOW ALL
public function Todas_las_Rutas():Array {
var nombres_rutas:Array = new Array;
for(var i:Number = 0; i cantidad ; i++){
nombres_rutas[i] = nombre_ruta[i] + ( + ruta[i] + );
}
return nombres_rutas;
}
}
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Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
im not entirely sure but can you use instanceof against a switch statement
to check if its of a particular class?
On 25/05/06, eka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello :)
you can use my ContructorUtil class with the statics getName, getPackage
and
getPath methods :
http://live.burrrn.com/browser/projects/VEGAS/AS2/trunk/src/vegas/util/ConstructorUtil.as
More precision in http://osflash.org/vegas to install VEGAS with SVN :)
you
can read in french my TRAC : http://live.burrrn.com/wiki/VEGAS
now for the custom object's serialization you can use EDEN :
http://live.burrrn.com/wiki/eden
EKA+ :)
2006/5/25, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
You mean the Class type then - for a custom class, I think you would
have to create a property to hold that.
class MyClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyClass
}
class MyOtherClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyOtherClass
}
In Flash:
var a:MyClass = new MyClass();
var b:MyClass = new MyOtherClass();
trace(a.type)
trace(b.type)
Name usually refers to the instance name.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of David Skoglund
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:17 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Yes, i know that the class name is MyClass when writing the
code, but does the object know what class it is constucted
from at runtime?
I want to save out scene objects to a XML-file and need to
save what class the objects are constructed from (or their
linkage ID in set in the Flash IDE).
/David
- Original Message -
From: Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Given:
class MyClass extends MovieClip {
function MyClass (){
trace (this.className)
}
The name of the class is MyClass - or do you mean the
instance name?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
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Re: [Flashcoders] PHP :: Dimensions of a SWF file?
http://getid3.sourceforge.net/ This will get you not only width and height, but a lot of really useful information such as bg color, frame rate, etc... And here's my (somewhat old) php code for rendering the swf: $fileInfo = GetAllFileInfo($filePath,'swf'); $version = $fileInfo[swf][header][version]; $width = $fileInfo[video][resolution_x]; $height = $fileInfo[video][resolution_y]; $bgcolor = $fileInfo[video][bgcolor]; $html = EOD OBJECT classid=clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354 codebase=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=$version,0,0,0; WIDTH=$width HEIGHT=$height ALIGN= PARAM NAME=movie VALUE=$fileSrc PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high PARAM NAME=bgcolor VALUE=$bgcolor EMBED src=$fileSrc quality=high bgcolor=$bgcolor WIDTH=$width HEIGHT=$height ALIGN= TYPE=application/x-shockwave-flash PLUGINSPAGE=http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer;/EMBED /OBJECT EOD; Peace Chris Éric Thibault wrote: Hello all! Is there a way to know via PHP the dimensions (height width) of a SWF file? I need this information to construct an html interface with all kinds of SWF loaded via UFO script! Thanks a million! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Class Newb Question
I've been asked to build increasingly more complex flash-based pieces for my employer - and I would really like to begin to componentize my code as much as possible to minimize me having to reinvent the wheel with each project. I've never coded using class files…all of the code that I've created has been inside of the 1st frame of the movie. I haven't really had the time that I think I need to understand the concepts behind using class files and the different OOP-designs that are commonly used, so I've sort of built up a complex against them. Does anyone have any URL's or books that they can suggest that may help me out to get a good understanding? If it helps, I'm particularly interested in the best approach toward building a media player that can handle mp3 or flv's. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
so you could do:
var myClassName:String;
var xx= new myClass();
if (xx instanceof myClass){myClassName=myClass;}
else if (xx instanceof someOtherClass){myClassName=someOtherClass;}
maybe?
On 25/05/06, Arul Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
instanceof does not return anything - It is not a method, but an operator.
You can use instanceof only to compare - like this:
var xx:XML = new XML();
trace (xx instanceof XML);
// output will be true.
~Arul Prasad.
On 5/25/06, mike cann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
im not entirely sure but can you use instanceof against a switch
statement
to check if its of a particular class?
On 25/05/06, eka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello :)
you can use my ContructorUtil class with the statics getName,
getPackage
and
getPath methods :
http://live.burrrn.com/browser/projects/VEGAS/AS2/trunk/src/vegas/util/ConstructorUtil.as
More precision in http://osflash.org/vegas to install VEGAS with SVN
:)
you
can read in french my TRAC : http://live.burrrn.com/wiki/VEGAS
now for the custom object's serialization you can use EDEN :
http://live.burrrn.com/wiki/eden
EKA+ :)
2006/5/25, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
You mean the Class type then - for a custom class, I think you would
have to create a property to hold that.
class MyClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyClass
}
class MyOtherClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyOtherClass
}
In Flash:
var a:MyClass = new MyClass();
var b:MyClass = new MyOtherClass();
trace(a.type)
trace(b.type)
Name usually refers to the instance name.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of David Skoglund
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:17 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Yes, i know that the class name is MyClass when writing the
code, but does the object know what class it is constucted
from at runtime?
I want to save out scene objects to a XML-file and need to
save what class the objects are constructed from (or their
linkage ID in set in the Flash IDE).
/David
- Original Message -
From: Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Given:
class MyClass extends MovieClip {
function MyClass (){
trace (this.className)
}
The name of the class is MyClass - or do you mean the
instance name?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
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[Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
Flashcoders, So this is one of those things I wonder about. If I type a var to a custom type, doesn't the compiler automatically import the associated class files? When or why would I need to explicitly need to use the import directive? Thanks in advance! -g ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Class Newb Question
Essential Actionscript 2.0 : Colin Moock. Thats all you need... Marlon Harrison wrote: I've been asked to build increasingly more complex flash-based pieces for my employer - and I would really like to begin to componentize my code as much as possible to minimize me having to reinvent the wheel with each project. I've never coded using class files…all of the code that I've created has been inside of the 1st frame of the movie. I haven't really had the time that I think I need to understand the concepts behind using class files and the different OOP-designs that are commonly used, so I've sort of built up a complex against them. Does anyone have any URL's or books that they can suggest that may help me out to get a good understanding? If it helps, I'm particularly interested in the best approach toward building a media player that can handle mp3 or flv's. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Getting the Symbol Name?
The other thread reminded me of a question I have. I know you can retrieve the instance name of a clip by accessing the _name property. But is it possible to get the symbol name of a clip at runtime as well? Thanks, August -- - August Gresens Technical Director Black Hammer Productions, NYC [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
:)
that will work - but won't be feasible, unless you are checking against a
selected set of classes.
If they are classes that you write, the best thing to do would be have a
variable inside ur class right away called 'ClassName' and use it. ( like
how macromedia did in V2 component classes ;-) )
~Arul Prasad.
On 5/25/06, mike cann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so you could do:
var myClassName:String;
var xx= new myClass();
if (xx instanceof myClass){myClassName=myClass;}
else if (xx instanceof someOtherClass){myClassName=someOtherClass;}
maybe?
On 25/05/06, Arul Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
instanceof does not return anything - It is not a method, but an
operator.
You can use instanceof only to compare - like this:
var xx:XML = new XML();
trace (xx instanceof XML);
// output will be true.
~Arul Prasad.
On 5/25/06, mike cann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
im not entirely sure but can you use instanceof against a switch
statement
to check if its of a particular class?
On 25/05/06, eka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello :)
you can use my ContructorUtil class with the statics getName,
getPackage
and
getPath methods :
http://live.burrrn.com/browser/projects/VEGAS/AS2/trunk/src/vegas/util/ConstructorUtil.as
More precision in http://osflash.org/vegas to install VEGAS with SVN
:)
you
can read in french my TRAC : http://live.burrrn.com/wiki/VEGAS
now for the custom object's serialization you can use EDEN :
http://live.burrrn.com/wiki/eden
EKA+ :)
2006/5/25, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
You mean the Class type then - for a custom class, I think you
would
have to create a property to hold that.
class MyClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyClass
}
class MyOtherClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyOtherClass
}
In Flash:
var a:MyClass = new MyClass();
var b:MyClass = new MyOtherClass();
trace(a.type)
trace(b.type)
Name usually refers to the instance name.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of David Skoglund
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:17 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Yes, i know that the class name is MyClass when writing the
code, but does the object know what class it is constucted
from at runtime?
I want to save out scene objects to a XML-file and need to
save what class the objects are constructed from (or their
linkage ID in set in the Flash IDE).
/David
- Original Message -
From: Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list
flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Given:
class MyClass extends MovieClip {
function MyClass (){
trace (this.className)
}
The name of the class is MyClass - or do you mean the
instance name?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
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Re: [Flashcoders] Problems with Tween Class
So how do i completely unload my MC and my Tween so that there are no references hanging around ?? How can i find out how many references there are for a given object (similar to the ref count in lingo objects in Director) ?? And is this only happening because of AS 2.0 It sounds like a scope issue. In cases like this, I just take the easiest route, and declare my Tween variable(s) at an upper level scope, outside of any functions/methods, and sometimes on _global (when not in an AS 2.0 class). That way, I always know exactly where to find it/them when it comes time to reset it/them. Since #Walker is a property of your function (local scope), it's difficult to assign a null value. Where/what is the proper reference/handle for #Walker when the function exits? It would otherwise be garbage collected, except that it remains active somehow and persists in memory. I scratched my head over this too. It's a bit of a black box IMO. I skip the wondering by simply making the Tween reference explicit (as described above). - pixelTwiddler, a.k.a. Jason ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Hello :)
i think it's more easy to use my class :)
[code]
import vegas.util.ConstructorUtil ;
import myPackage.MyConstructor ;
var instance = new MyConstructor() ;
var name:String = ConstructorUtil.getName( instance ) ;
trace(class name : + name) ; // output : 'MyClass'
var package:String = ConstructorUtil.getPackage(instance) ;
trace(class package : + package) ; // output : 'myPackage'
var path:String = ConstructorUtil.getPath(instance) ;
trace(class path : + path) ; // output : 'myPackage.MyConstructor'
[/code]
EKA+ :)
2006/5/25, mike cann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
so you could do:
var myClassName:String;
var xx= new myClass();
if (xx instanceof myClass){myClassName=myClass;}
else if (xx instanceof someOtherClass){myClassName=someOtherClass;}
maybe?
On 25/05/06, Arul Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
instanceof does not return anything - It is not a method, but an
operator.
You can use instanceof only to compare - like this:
var xx:XML = new XML();
trace (xx instanceof XML);
// output will be true.
~Arul Prasad.
On 5/25/06, mike cann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
im not entirely sure but can you use instanceof against a switch
statement
to check if its of a particular class?
On 25/05/06, eka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello :)
you can use my ContructorUtil class with the statics getName,
getPackage
and
getPath methods :
http://live.burrrn.com/browser/projects/VEGAS/AS2/trunk/src/vegas/util/ConstructorUtil.as
More precision in http://osflash.org/vegas to install VEGAS with SVN
:)
you
can read in french my TRAC : http://live.burrrn.com/wiki/VEGAS
now for the custom object's serialization you can use EDEN :
http://live.burrrn.com/wiki/eden
EKA+ :)
2006/5/25, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
You mean the Class type then - for a custom class, I think you
would
have to create a property to hold that.
class MyClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyClass
}
class MyOtherClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyOtherClass
}
In Flash:
var a:MyClass = new MyClass();
var b:MyClass = new MyOtherClass();
trace(a.type)
trace(b.type)
Name usually refers to the instance name.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of David Skoglund
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:17 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Yes, i know that the class name is MyClass when writing the
code, but does the object know what class it is constucted
from at runtime?
I want to save out scene objects to a XML-file and need to
save what class the objects are constructed from (or their
linkage ID in set in the Flash IDE).
/David
- Original Message -
From: Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Given:
class MyClass extends MovieClip {
function MyClass (){
trace (this.className)
}
The name of the class is MyClass - or do you mean the
instance name?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
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Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
If you are talking about flash, no i believe it doesnt automatically import your class for you. You may be getting confused with the new Flex Builder 2 which does infact import automatically for you. On 25/05/06, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flashcoders, So this is one of those things I wonder about. If I type a var to a custom type, doesn't the compiler automatically import the associated class files? When or why would I need to explicitly need to use the import directive? Thanks in advance! -g ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Class Newb Question
I've been trying to teach myself good OOP approaches with flash (in a hurry). I've bought a number of books, so far the two I'd recommend most are: Essential ActionScript 2.0 by Colin Moock (O'REILLY) - has several chapters devoted to actionscript implementation of commonly used design patterns. I believe a chapter or two of it is available on the adobe site as a pdf for preview. Flash 8 ActionScript Bible by Joey Lott and Robert Reinhardt (WILEY). - a good reference with basic examples of pretty much everything. - phaedrus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon Harrison Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:15 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Class Newb Question I've been asked to build increasingly more complex flash-based pieces for my employer - and I would really like to begin to componentize my code as much as possible to minimize me having to reinvent the wheel with each project. I've never coded using class files.all of the code that I've created has been inside of the 1st frame of the movie. I haven't really had the time that I think I need to understand the concepts behind using class files and the different OOP-designs that are commonly used, so I've sort of built up a complex against them. Does anyone have any URL's or books that they can suggest that may help me out to get a good understanding? If it helps, I'm particularly interested in the best approach toward building a media player that can handle mp3 or flv's. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
So this is one of those things I wonder about. If I type a var to a custom type, doesn't the compiler automatically import the associated class files? When or why would I need to explicitly need to use the import directive? Because if Flash imported every class available to it automatically, then your .swf files would be huge and unnecessarily bloated. Do you really want the code to all the Remoting classes imported into your .swf if you're not using them? When you include, the actionscript cotained in the class is embedded in the .swf. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rifled Cloaca Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:23 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? Flashcoders, So this is one of those things I wonder about. If I type a var to a custom type, doesn't the compiler automatically import the associated class files? When or why would I need to explicitly need to use the import directive? Thanks in advance! -g ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] XML Parsing
I'm building my menus dynamically from xml docs, but I'm having a problem with a lag while the xml parses. I have a graphic indicating that the xml is loading, but it isn't showing up for me on broadband. I'm assuming that this is because the xml file is so small, it loads instantly. I still have the lag though, so it must be coming from the parsing time. Is there any way I can indicate or show progress of parsing? I'm sure this has been a common topic in the past, but I haven't been able to find anything online. For reference, the URL is: http://www.jurgmeyer.com http://www.jurgmeyer.com/ - after the page loads, click on any of the four options to see what I'm talking about. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
What are you basing that on? The underlying Player, not framework handles the low level connections, so it is the same regsardless of whether the content was built in Flash Authoring or the Flex Framework. In fact, Flex was originally built and designed with scalability as a primary goal (as it was originally focused at the Enterprise space). And Flex based apps can easily communicate with backends such as ASP, PHP, etc... mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 25, 2006, at 5:43 AM, Christian wrote: The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] SOLVED Loading Child SWF Files in a swfPanel
Okay- Nevermind- The answer is yes you can On 5/25/06, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm building a custom panel that needs a child swf file to be loaded- How does one reach the child swf files from a custom panel. Will I be able to just call the loadMovie() function as usual and just call a folder relative to my parent swf location or are there some special circumstances because it's in the windowSWF/Panle? Thanks Mani ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] IDE Fonts problem
Hi all ! I have the most strange behavior in flash IDE, I have just changed PC, so I passed my project installed the fonts from one PC to the other, well, the thing is: when I open the FLA, if the textfield is using the font normal* (defined by me, and sharing it from fontlibrary.swf) show's up like garbled in the IDE, but when I compile it shows normally, If I change the font to Bavaria (the not shared font) it shows correctly in the IDE, what do you think that may cause this ? of course, if I open the file in the old PC it show's normally. Rodrigo ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Hi, I've been too busy developping in Flash lately to give a try to the new Flex yet, so excuse me if the following question sounds stupid: Flex use to be a server product, but with the new Flex Builder can you simply build a swf file like you do with flash and include it in regular html page? (and therefore php,etc...) Or do you absolutely need to have a specific Flex server of some sort running in order to deliver those files? Thank you, Frank -Original Message- From: Muzak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:45 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Have you looked into FDS? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flexdata_services2/ When you say: develop the front ends in flash You mean the Flash IDE? What makes you think developing in Flex does not allow you to communicate with any traditional back-end? Flex Builder is just an IDE. The end result is an swf the same as with the Flash IDE. It's just that an swf published from Flash is currently a different version. regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
???
you speak about my ConstructorUtil class ? :)
My methods search in the _global object the instance and this Constructor
and build a little private property __path__.
I use a pattern of reflexion and a storage of the result to avoid seeking
the name and the namespace of the class each time. It's automatic :)
For me the method of macromedia is not at all functional and clean ;)
I Use this method in all toString() methods with an enormous framework and
it's perfect.
EKA+ :)
2006/5/25, Arul Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
:)
that will work - but won't be feasible, unless you are checking against a
selected set of classes.
If they are classes that you write, the best thing to do would be have a
variable inside ur class right away called 'ClassName' and use it. ( like
how macromedia did in V2 component classes ;-) )
~Arul Prasad.
On 5/25/06, mike cann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so you could do:
var myClassName:String;
var xx= new myClass();
if (xx instanceof myClass){myClassName=myClass;}
else if (xx instanceof someOtherClass){myClassName=someOtherClass;}
maybe?
On 25/05/06, Arul Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
instanceof does not return anything - It is not a method, but an
operator.
You can use instanceof only to compare - like this:
var xx:XML = new XML();
trace (xx instanceof XML);
// output will be true.
~Arul Prasad.
On 5/25/06, mike cann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
im not entirely sure but can you use instanceof against a switch
statement
to check if its of a particular class?
On 25/05/06, eka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello :)
you can use my ContructorUtil class with the statics getName,
getPackage
and
getPath methods :
http://live.burrrn.com/browser/projects/VEGAS/AS2/trunk/src/vegas/util/ConstructorUtil.as
More precision in http://osflash.org/vegas to install VEGAS with
SVN
:)
you
can read in french my TRAC : http://live.burrrn.com/wiki/VEGAS
now for the custom object's serialization you can use EDEN :
http://live.burrrn.com/wiki/eden
EKA+ :)
2006/5/25, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
You mean the Class type then - for a custom class, I think you
would
have to create a property to hold that.
class MyClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyClass
}
class MyOtherClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyOtherClass
}
In Flash:
var a:MyClass = new MyClass();
var b:MyClass = new MyOtherClass();
trace(a.type)
trace(b.type)
Name usually refers to the instance name.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of David Skoglund
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:17 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Yes, i know that the class name is MyClass when writing the
code, but does the object know what class it is constucted
from at runtime?
I want to save out scene objects to a XML-file and need to
save what class the objects are constructed from (or their
linkage ID in set in the Flash IDE).
/David
- Original Message -
From: Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list
flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Given:
class MyClass extends MovieClip {
function MyClass (){
trace (this.className)
}
The name of the class is MyClass - or do you mean the
instance name?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Flex to me has seemed to discredit a lot of the flash developers out there buy putting advanced functionality at the finger tips of the average user. This is the nature of programming; what was once difficult becomes simple, and what was once impossible becomes difficult! Once upon a time, if you wanted to build Windows applications, you used C/C++ and MFC. Then, you could use Visual Basic, and now, you can use .NET. The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Flex 2 has no required server component. There are optional server components, which based on what I've seen scale incredibly well, but you can use Flex 2 to build interfaces that talk to any server-side application you want. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
import in AS2, is to help you avoid typing in the complete package name everytime u reference a class. The following code import mx.controls.Button; var playBtn:Button; ... var stopBtn:Button; var pauseBtn:Button; will look like this: var playBtn:mx.controls.Button; ... var stopBtn:mx.controls.Button; var pauseBtn:mx.controls.Button; if you don't use an import. Please refer flash help for more details.. :) ~Arul Prasad On 5/25/06, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flashcoders, So this is one of those things I wonder about. If I type a var to a custom type, doesn't the compiler automatically import the associated class files? When or why would I need to explicitly need to use the import directive? Thanks in advance! -g ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Class Newb Question
I concur with regard to Essential Actionscript by Colin Moock Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phaedrus Sent: 25 May 2006 16:43 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Class Newb Question I've been trying to teach myself good OOP approaches with flash (in a hurry). I've bought a number of books, so far the two I'd recommend most are: Essential ActionScript 2.0 by Colin Moock (O'REILLY) - has several chapters devoted to actionscript implementation of commonly used design patterns. I believe a chapter or two of it is available on the adobe site as a pdf for preview. Flash 8 ActionScript Bible by Joey Lott and Robert Reinhardt (WILEY). - a good reference with basic examples of pretty much everything. - phaedrus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon Harrison Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:15 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Class Newb Question I've been asked to build increasingly more complex flash-based pieces for my employer - and I would really like to begin to componentize my code as much as possible to minimize me having to reinvent the wheel with each project. I've never coded using class files.all of the code that I've created has been inside of the 1st frame of the movie. I haven't really had the time that I think I need to understand the concepts behind using class files and the different OOP-designs that are commonly used, so I've sort of built up a complex against them. Does anyone have any URL's or books that they can suggest that may help me out to get a good understanding? If it helps, I'm particularly interested in the best approach toward building a media player that can handle mp3 or flv's. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Frank, You are correct - with 2.0 you don't need the server. The server components are only required for certain functionalities such as messaging. I'm just starting with Flex myself, and so far I like it. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:51 AM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Hi, I've been too busy developping in Flash lately to give a try to the new Flex yet, so excuse me if the following question sounds stupid: Flex use to be a server product, but with the new Flex Builder can you simply build a swf file like you do with flash and include it in regular html page? (and therefore php,etc...) Or do you absolutely need to have a specific Flex server of some sort running in order to deliver those files? Thank you, Frank -Original Message- From: Muzak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:45 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Have you looked into FDS? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flexdata_services2/ When you say: develop the front ends in flash You mean the Flash IDE? What makes you think developing in Flex does not allow you to communicate with any traditional back-end? Flex Builder is just an IDE. The end result is an swf the same as with the Flash IDE. It's just that an swf published from Flash is currently a different version. regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Yes, the new Flex will come with a free compiler to take your regular old .swf files created with it and upload to your server. No Flex server required as it is now. Download the Flexbuilder2 beta and check it out - you can make .swf files with it. Pretty cool. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:51 AM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Hi, I've been too busy developping in Flash lately to give a try to the new Flex yet, so excuse me if the following question sounds stupid: Flex use to be a server product, but with the new Flex Builder can you simply build a swf file like you do with flash and include it in regular html page? (and therefore php,etc...) Or do you absolutely need to have a specific Flex server of some sort running in order to deliver those files? Thank you, Frank -Original Message- From: Muzak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:45 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Have you looked into FDS? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flexdata_services2/ When you say: develop the front ends in flash You mean the Flash IDE? What makes you think developing in Flex does not allow you to communicate with any traditional back-end? Flex Builder is just an IDE. The end result is an swf the same as with the Flash IDE. It's just that an swf published from Flash is currently a different version. regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] sending HTML image map data to Flash
Anyone have tips on making Flash read the image map on the host html page and parse it into a multi-dimensonal array (as would happen if we were importing xml)? In a web-based project, we provide non-flash browsers with a jpg and image map. We want to grab the image map data directly from the html and send it to the swf so that Flash can construct hit areas and URLs from that data (it's too cumbersome to copy this data manually into the .fla). I'm having trouble parsing the image map data inside Flash. For one thing, I have to account for the way I.E. rewrites html (different quoting conventions, for example). It would be nice if the image map data were sent to Flash in more of an xml format. Does this already exist? Any thoughts? TIA, Marc ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML Parsing
How many nodes are in the XML file? Can you post the code that does the parsing? Mike ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
With Flex 2.0, there is no need for a server, the swf's can be deployed in the same way as Flash swf's. Adobe are even going to release a command line compiler if you dont want to pay the (rumoured) $1000 for Flex Builder 2.0. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've been too busy developping in Flash lately to give a try to the new Flex yet, so excuse me if the following question sounds stupid: Flex use to be a server product, but with the new Flex Builder can you simply build a swf file like you do with flash and include it in regular html page? (and therefore php,etc...) Or do you absolutely need to have a specific Flex server of some sort running in order to deliver those files? Thank you, Frank -Original Message- From: Muzak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:45 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Have you looked into FDS? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flexdata_services2/ When you say: develop the front ends in flash You mean the Flash IDE? What makes you think developing in Flex does not allow you to communicate with any traditional back-end? Flex Builder is just an IDE. The end result is an swf the same as with the Flash IDE. It's just that an swf published from Flash is currently a different version. regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] XML Parsing
Oops ... misspelled my link: http://www.jurgemeyer.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jurgemeyer Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:53 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] XML Parsing I'm building my menus dynamically from xml docs, but I'm having a problem with a lag while the xml parses. I have a graphic indicating that the xml is loading, but it isn't showing up for me on broadband. I'm assuming that this is because the xml file is so small, it loads instantly. I still have the lag though, so it must be coming from the parsing time. Is there any way I can indicate or show progress of parsing? I'm sure this has been a common topic in the past, but I haven't been able to find anything online. For reference, the URL is: http://www.jurgmeyer.com http://www.jurgmeyer.com/ - after the page loads, click on any of the four options to see what I'm talking about. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] MXI Files
Muzak, would I be able to email you about an MXI issue? I'm pulling my hair out over here. phaedrus wrote: Thank You! http://www.muzakdeezign.com/mxi_creator/ (And Thank You!) - phaedrus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muzak Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:55 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] MXI Files Here's the mxi file format specs: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/exchange/mxi_file_format.pdf And here's a tool that helps with creating mxi files (pc only). http://www.muzakdeezign.com/mxi_creator/ regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: phaedrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:37 AM Subject: [Flashcoders] MXI Files Can someone point me at a good tutorial or writeup on making MXI files? I want to be able to package a component so that when one includes it in their project, they also get access to a folder of the resources they may wish to edit. It seems like these MXI files are the way to do it, but my reference books don't have anything to say on them and I'm having trouble filtering out the noise on google searches. Thanks! - phaedrus ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML Parsing
Yes im having the same problem, but with Flash Remoting. Matt Jurgemeyer wrote: I'm building my menus dynamically from xml docs, but I'm having a problem with a lag while the xml parses. I have a graphic indicating that the xml is loading, but it isn't showing up for me on broadband. I'm assuming that this is because the xml file is so small, it loads instantly. I still have the lag though, so it must be coming from the parsing time. Is there any way I can indicate or show progress of parsing? I'm sure this has been a common topic in the past, but I haven't been able to find anything online. For reference, the URL is: http://www.jurgmeyer.com http://www.jurgmeyer.com/ - after the page loads, click on any of the four options to see what I'm talking about. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
i agree, i just tested your class eka and it works very well, nicely done
mate :)
On 25/05/06, eka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
???
you speak about my ConstructorUtil class ? :)
My methods search in the _global object the instance and this Constructor
and build a little private property __path__.
I use a pattern of reflexion and a storage of the result to avoid seeking
the name and the namespace of the class each time. It's automatic :)
For me the method of macromedia is not at all functional and clean ;)
I Use this method in all toString() methods with an enormous framework and
it's perfect.
EKA+ :)
2006/5/25, Arul Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
:)
that will work - but won't be feasible, unless you are checking against
a
selected set of classes.
If they are classes that you write, the best thing to do would be have a
variable inside ur class right away called 'ClassName' and use it. (
like
how macromedia did in V2 component classes ;-) )
~Arul Prasad.
On 5/25/06, mike cann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so you could do:
var myClassName:String;
var xx= new myClass();
if (xx instanceof myClass){myClassName=myClass;}
else if (xx instanceof someOtherClass){myClassName=someOtherClass;}
maybe?
On 25/05/06, Arul Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
instanceof does not return anything - It is not a method, but an
operator.
You can use instanceof only to compare - like this:
var xx:XML = new XML();
trace (xx instanceof XML);
// output will be true.
~Arul Prasad.
On 5/25/06, mike cann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
im not entirely sure but can you use instanceof against a switch
statement
to check if its of a particular class?
On 25/05/06, eka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello :)
you can use my ContructorUtil class with the statics getName,
getPackage
and
getPath methods :
http://live.burrrn.com/browser/projects/VEGAS/AS2/trunk/src/vegas/util/ConstructorUtil.as
More precision in http://osflash.org/vegas to install VEGAS with
SVN
:)
you
can read in french my TRAC : http://live.burrrn.com/wiki/VEGAS
now for the custom object's serialization you can use EDEN :
http://live.burrrn.com/wiki/eden
EKA+ :)
2006/5/25, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
You mean the Class type then - for a custom class, I think you
would
have to create a property to hold that.
class MyClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyClass
}
class MyOtherClass extends MovieClip{
public var type:String = MyOtherClass
}
In Flash:
var a:MyClass = new MyClass();
var b:MyClass = new MyOtherClass();
trace(a.type)
trace(b.type)
Name usually refers to the instance name.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of David Skoglund
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:17 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Yes, i know that the class name is MyClass when writing the
code, but does the object know what class it is constucted
from at runtime?
I want to save out scene objects to a XML-file and need to
save what class the objects are constructed from (or their
linkage ID in set in the Flash IDE).
/David
- Original Message -
From: Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list
flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Getting the class name?
Given:
class MyClass extends MovieClip {
function MyClass (){
trace (this.className)
}
The name of the class is MyClass - or do you mean the
instance name?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
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Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
ok its early for me but I think you dont actually need to import if you provide the full classpath for your datatypes: private var myVar:com.blah.MyDataType will work just fine, without an import, i beleive. however, if you wanted to do: private var myVar:MyDataType; then you would need to tell flash which class you were referring to, by importing the pakcage/class info. import com.blah.MyDataType; basically, 'import' is almost like setting a shortcut to refer to a particular class without using its full package name. On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this is one of those things I wonder about. If I type a var to a custom type, doesn't the compiler automatically import the associated class files? When or why would I need to explicitly need to use the import directive? Because if Flash imported every class available to it automatically, then your .swf files would be huge and unnecessarily bloated. Do you really want the code to all the Remoting classes imported into your .swf if you're not using them? When you include, the actionscript cotained in the class is embedded in the .swf. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rifled Cloaca Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:23 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? Flashcoders, So this is one of those things I wonder about. If I type a var to a custom type, doesn't the compiler automatically import the associated class files? When or why would I need to explicitly need to use the import directive? Thanks in advance! -g ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
Errm - actually that's not such a good reason. The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. You could just type com.fred.MyClass throughout the body of your code instead of typing import at the top of the file. 'import' is simply a disambiguation helper for the compiler. It's got nothing to do with what code actually gets included in the resultant .swf. You can prove this by typing: import com.fred.* // Replace with some set of classes you're not using in your current project And recompiling. The .swf file size won't go up until you actually _reference_ an object that belongs to one of those packages. As soon as you typed: var f:MyClass=new MyClass(); or, in fact var f:com.fred.MyClass=new com.fred.MyClass(); The file size would go up. So - in answer to RifledCloaca - no, you don't need to type 'import' at all, as long as you refer to all your classes by full packagename. Ian On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because if Flash imported every class available to it automatically, then your .swf files would be huge and unnecessarily bloated. Do you really want the code to all the Remoting classes imported into your .swf if you're not using them? When you include, the actionscript cotained in the class is embedded in the .swf. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
I think what he is asking is if this is the same as import: var myObj:mx.core.UIObject = new mx.core.UIObject; I think one of the answers is that it saves on typing out the class info for every reference. Any other benefits to import? On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this is one of those things I wonder about. If I type a var to a custom type, doesn't the compiler automatically import the associated class files? When or why would I need to explicitly need to use the import directive? Because if Flash imported every class available to it automatically, then your .swf files would be huge and unnecessarily bloated. Do you really want the code to all the Remoting classes imported into your .swf if you're not using them? When you include, the actionscript cotained in the class is embedded in the .swf. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Strings, ANSI and UTF8
I've got a string that's been passed to Director, which is encoded with UTF8 but as far as Director is concerned is just a string of ANSI characters. Now I want to pass the string to Flash and have Flash interpret it as a Unicode string. I've written my own UTF8 decoder function, but unfortunately, I've got a problem somewhere. I'm trying hard to pin it down to a single issue, but I think the problem is that String.fromCharCode() and String.charCodeAt() use Unicode rather than ANSI. So the process is: Director reads a piece of text encoded as a binary string. It turns it into a sequence of bytes. It reads, say, the byte 142. It turns it into the character Ž (under my local ANSI codepage) It passes that to Flash. Flash then runs String.charCodeAt() to turn this back into a number. Unfortunately, this is using Unicode, so instead of 142 it ends up with 381. Now when I run my UTF8 translation system, of course the whole thing is using the wrong numbers and it goes kerblooey. Am I reading the problem right? It's hurting my brain. If I've diagnosed the problem correctly, then I can see a few potential solutions: Can I pass the binary string data directly to Flash without converting it to text? Can Flash read the character as ANSI instead of Unicode, getting the same value as Director? Otherwise I'm going to have to turn the whole string into an array of numbers in Director, and pass that array to Flash. And that's going to annoy me... What a mess. Danny ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] sending HTML image map data to Flash
[My apologies if you receive this twice -- didn't seem to go through the first time.] Anyone have tips on making Flash read the image map on the host html page and parse it into a multi-dimensonal array (as would happen if we were importing xml)? In a web-based project, we provide non-flash browsers with a jpg and image map. We want to grab the image map data directly from the html and send it to the swf so that Flash can construct hit areas and URLs from that data (it's too cumbersome to copy this data manually into the .fla). I'm having trouble parsing the image map data inside Flash. For one thing, I have to account for the way I.E. rewrites html (different quoting conventions, for example). It would be nice if the image map data were sent to Flash in more of an xml format. Does this already exist? Any thoughts? TIA, Marc ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: Well, I think you should just stick with the tool that works for you. I´m currently using Flash 8 IDE to build the layout and assets, and, for me, it is pretty good to build forms as well. The rest I do outside Flash, in FlashDevelop and compile with MTASC ;) It´s just another way to build the views... and there are tons of ways you can do that... what really matters to me is the advent of AS3 that is for sure above all this discussion... Marcelo. It's exactly this kind of thing that has me looking into Flex - It seems like Flash IDE is very good for some of the things it tries to do (animation, assets production, etc.) but falls apart when you need to actually make a swf that works like an application. From the replies to this thread it sounds like others have found this to be true as well, and so people are using the Flash IDE in the way you've described, while resorting to outside tools to get the application level work done (like FlashDevelop and MTASC - and eventually, Adobe's free compiler I would imagine). This situation for me answers pretty clearly the question of where Flex Builder fits in. This thread has been very informative. Thanks a bunch. :-) Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] XML Parsing
Below are examples of my xml and the code I use to parse it.
THIS IS ONE OF MY XML FILES:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1?
INTERACTIVE
BUTTON title=website client=CNE
buttonIMAGE=webSite_CNE.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_CNE(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_CNE(2).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=direct emails client=Dell
buttonIMAGE=directEmail_Dell.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEemail_Dell(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEemail_Dell(2).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEemail_Dell(3).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEemail_Dell(4).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=enews client=Dell
buttonIMAGE=enews_Dell.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEenews_Dell(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEenews_Dell(2).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=corporate website client=Dell
buttonIMAGE=webSite_Dell.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Dell(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Dell(2).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Dell(3).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=band website client=Dickie Lee Erwin
buttonIMAGE=webSite_Dickie.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Dickie(1).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=banner ads client=Hoover's Online
buttonIMAGE=banners_Hoovers.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEbanners_Hoovers(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEbanners_Hoovers(2).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=website client=Impath
buttonIMAGE=webSite_Impath.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Impath(1).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=website client=Radiant Research
buttonIMAGE=webSite_Radiant.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Radiant(1).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=brand guidelines client=Temple Inland
buttonIMAGE=webSite_Inland.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Inland(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Inland(2).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Inland(3).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=snapshot metrics client=Tocquigny
buttonIMAGE=Metrics.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Metrics(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Metrics(2).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Metrics(3).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=website client=Tocquigny
buttonIMAGE=webSite_Tocquigny.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Tocquigny(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Tocquigny(2).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=direct email client=Toshiba
buttonIMAGE=directEmail_Toshiba.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEemail_Toshiba(1).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=enews client=Vignette
buttonIMAGE=enews_Vignette.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEenews_Vignette(1).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=banner ads client=Winding Road
buttonIMAGE=banners_Windingroad.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEbanners_Windingroad(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEbanners_Windingroad(2).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEbanners_Windingroad(3).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEbanners_Windingroad(4).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
/INTERACTIVE
--
THIS IS MY CODE:
//hide the flash menu until the XML loads
_parent._visible = false;
// xml processing
menu_interactive_xml = new XML();
menu_interactive_xml.load(xml/interactive.xml);
menu_interactive_xml.ignoreWhite = 1;
//
menu_interactive_xml.onLoad = function(ok) {
// create main menu after successful loading of XML
if (ok) {
this._parent._parent.loading._alpha = 0;
create_menu();
} else {
trace(menu_interactive_xml.getBytesLoaded());
}
};
//
counter = 0;
function create_menu() {
RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. Err...that has not been my understanding at all. If that is the case, then why do you NOT need to include your class files on the server with the .swf? Since reality is you don't, all that code has to be in the .swf upon compiling, otherwise, the .swf wouldn't know what to do with Myvar:MyCoolClass = new MyCoolClass(); If it's not included with the .swf, how would the .swf know what MyCoolClass is otherwise? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:27 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? Errm - actually that's not such a good reason. The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. You could just type com.fred.MyClass throughout the body of your code instead of typing import at the top of the file. 'import' is simply a disambiguation helper for the compiler. It's got nothing to do with what code actually gets included in the resultant .swf. You can prove this by typing: import com.fred.* // Replace with some set of classes you're not using in your current project And recompiling. The .swf file size won't go up until you actually _reference_ an object that belongs to one of those packages. As soon as you typed: var f:MyClass=new MyClass(); or, in fact var f:com.fred.MyClass=new com.fred.MyClass(); The file size would go up. So - in answer to RifledCloaca - no, you don't need to type 'import' at all, as long as you refer to all your classes by full packagename. Ian On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because if Flash imported every class available to it automatically, then your .swf files would be huge and unnecessarily bloated. Do you really want the code to all the Remoting classes imported into your .swf if you're not using them? When you include, the actionscript cotained in the class is embedded in the .swf. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] eLearning built in Flex
Jason and the other guy that mentioned building e-learning in Flex, Did you bring a link to the e-learning that you mentioned that was built in Flex? Would love to see it :-) Dan Thatcher Online Learning The American Academy of Professional Coders 801-238-9893 (office) 801-879-9253 (mobile) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] SWF Ecnrypt, ASO or both?
I´m thinking about buying SWF Encrypt, but as there´s also ASO (ActionScript Obfuscator Pro) I would like to ask your suggestion about what to use? What is better? Or are they complementary (use both)? Thanks, Marcelo. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Yes OpenLaszlo is a great solution. Ive used it quite a bit. They have a awesome community for help and getting started with it. jcanistrum wrote: and what about OpenLaszlo, has someone given it a try ? I saw some very good demos overthere http://www.openlaszlo.org/demos 2006/5/25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've been too busy developping in Flash lately to give a try to the new Flex yet, so excuse me if the following question sounds stupid: Flex use to be a server product, but with the new Flex Builder can you simply build a swf file like you do with flash and include it in regular html page? (and therefore php,etc...) Or do you absolutely need to have a specific Flex server of some sort running in order to deliver those files? Thank you, Frank -Original Message- From: Muzak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:45 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Have you looked into FDS? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flexdata_services2/ When you say: develop the front ends in flash You mean the Flash IDE? What makes you think developing in Flex does not allow you to communicate with any traditional back-end? Flex Builder is just an IDE. The end result is an swf the same as with the Flash IDE. It's just that an swf published from Flash is currently a different version. regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Controlling an Embedded SWF
Hi: I have a SWF (SWF A) that I'm loading into a movieclip (Movieclip C)which is part of another SWF (SWF B). Basically, SWF B functions as a player, with play and pause controls. These controls control Movieclip C where the external SWF A is loaded into. Normally, I have had no problem with this and it always works. At run time, when you click the pause button on SWF B, a stop() command is issued to Movieclip C, which stops the play of the external movieclip (SWF A) loaded into it. However, I did a screen capture with Captivate and published it as a SWF. I loaded this SWF (SWF A) into Movieclip C in SWF B at run time. However, clicking the controls on SWF I created has NO EFFECT on the SWF I created in Captivate. It just keeps playing. I guess all SWFs are NOT created equal. How can I make this work? Loren The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing. - John Powell ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
I spent some time evaluating OpenLaszlo for my employer, and it's very nice. We nearly chose it over Flex. However, Flex turned out to be the winner for us. Here are some of the reasons: - Flex has native XML socket server support - Flex supports SOAP in compiled SWF deployments (Laszlo only supports it if you use the server component) - The Flex IDE has a traditional debugger built in - The Flex IDE is more powerful and mature than the Laszlo IDE (even though it's still in Beta, it blows the Laszlo eclipse plugin away) - Flex has a much larger and more active developer community - Adobe is a well-known name, and brings a certain comfort level to clients and prospective clients - Flex supports SVG - FA Bridge - ActionScript 3.0 is preferable to JavaScript -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jcanistrum Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:31 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE and what about OpenLaszlo, has someone given it a try ? I saw some very good demos overthere http://www.openlaszlo.org/demos 2006/5/25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've been too busy developping in Flash lately to give a try to the new Flex yet, so excuse me if the following question sounds stupid: Flex use to be a server product, but with the new Flex Builder can you simply build a swf file like you do with flash and include it in regular html page? (and therefore php,etc...) Or do you absolutely need to have a specific Flex server of some sort running in order to deliver those files? Thank you, Frank -Original Message- From: Muzak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:45 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Have you looked into FDS? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flexdata_services2/ When you say: develop the front ends in flash You mean the Flash IDE? What makes you think developing in Flex does not allow you to communicate with any traditional back-end? Flex Builder is just an IDE. The end result is an swf the same as with the Flash IDE. It's just that an swf published from Flash is currently a different version. regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- João Carlos ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
I think Ian stated that Importing a class will not affect the swf, but instanciating an object contained in the class will. So: import MyCoolNewClass; does not affect swf var MyCoolNewClass:MyCoolNewClass = new MyCoolNewClass(); does affect swf Merrill, Jason wrote: The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. Err...that has not been my understanding at all. If that is the case, then why do you NOT need to include your class files on the server with the .swf? Since reality is you don't, all that code has to be in the .swf upon compiling, otherwise, the .swf wouldn't know what to do with Myvar:MyCoolClass = new MyCoolClass(); If it's not included with the .swf, how would the .swf know what MyCoolClass is otherwise? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:27 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? Errm - actually that's not such a good reason. The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. You could just type com.fred.MyClass throughout the body of your code instead of typing import at the top of the file. 'import' is simply a disambiguation helper for the compiler. It's got nothing to do with what code actually gets included in the resultant .swf. You can prove this by typing: import com.fred.* // Replace with some set of classes you're not using in your current project And recompiling. The .swf file size won't go up until you actually _reference_ an object that belongs to one of those packages. As soon as you typed: var f:MyClass=new MyClass(); or, in fact var f:com.fred.MyClass=new com.fred.MyClass(); The file size would go up. So - in answer to RifledCloaca - no, you don't need to type 'import' at all, as long as you refer to all your classes by full packagename. Ian On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because if Flash imported every class available to it automatically, then your .swf files would be huge and unnecessarily bloated. Do you really want the code to all the Remoting classes imported into your .swf if you're not using them? When you include, the actionscript cotained in the class is embedded in the .swf. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] XML Parsing
At first glance it seems to be doing a lot inside the while statement. That
could account for the lag. 15 times through the loop could slow things
down, especially if you're instantiating a moviecliploader each time around.
Mike
On 5/25/06, Matt Jurgemeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Below are examples of my xml and the code I use to parse it.
THIS IS ONE OF MY XML FILES:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1?
INTERACTIVE
BUTTON title=website client=CNE
buttonIMAGE=webSite_CNE.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_CNE(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_CNE(2).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=direct emails client=Dell
buttonIMAGE=directEmail_Dell.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEemail_Dell(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEemail_Dell(2).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEemail_Dell(3).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEemail_Dell(4).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=enews client=Dell
buttonIMAGE=enews_Dell.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEenews_Dell(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEenews_Dell(2).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=corporate website client=Dell
buttonIMAGE=webSite_Dell.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Dell(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Dell(2).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Dell(3).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=band website client=Dickie Lee Erwin
buttonIMAGE=webSite_Dickie.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Dickie(1).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=banner ads client=Hoover's Online
buttonIMAGE=banners_Hoovers.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEbanners_Hoovers(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEbanners_Hoovers(2).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=website client=Impath
buttonIMAGE=webSite_Impath.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Impath(1).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=website client=Radiant Research
buttonIMAGE=webSite_Radiant.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Radiant(1).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=brand guidelines client=Temple Inland
buttonIMAGE=webSite_Inland.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Inland(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Inland(2).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Inland(3).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=snapshot metrics client=Tocquigny
buttonIMAGE=Metrics.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Metrics(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Metrics(2).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Metrics(3).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=website client=Tocquigny
buttonIMAGE=webSite_Tocquigny.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEwebsite_Tocquigny(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEwebsite_Tocquigny(2).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=direct email client=Toshiba
buttonIMAGE=directEmail_Toshiba.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEemail_Toshiba(1).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=enews client=Vignette
buttonIMAGE=enews_Vignette.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEenews_Vignette(1).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
BUTTON title=banner ads client=Winding Road
buttonIMAGE=banners_Windingroad.jpg
IMAGES
IMAGEbanners_Windingroad(1).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEbanners_Windingroad(2).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEbanners_Windingroad(3).jpg/IMAGE
IMAGEbanners_Windingroad(4).jpg/IMAGE
/IMAGES
/BUTTON
/INTERACTIVE
--
THIS IS MY CODE:
//hide the flash menu until the XML loads
_parent._visible = false;
// xml processing
menu_interactive_xml = new XML();
menu_interactive_xml.load(xml/interactive.xml);
menu_interactive_xml.ignoreWhite = 1;
//
menu_interactive_xml.onLoad = function(ok) {
//
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
I think what he is saying is that if you had a dozen imports or imported an entire package (*) it would not include the specific classes until you actually referenced them. On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. Err...that has not been my understanding at all. If that is the case, then why do you NOT need to include your class files on the server with the .swf? Since reality is you don't, all that code has to be in the .swf upon compiling, otherwise, the .swf wouldn't know what to do with Myvar:MyCoolClass = new MyCoolClass(); If it's not included with the .swf, how would the .swf know what MyCoolClass is otherwise? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:27 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? Errm - actually that's not such a good reason. The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. You could just type com.fred.MyClass throughout the body of your code instead of typing import at the top of the file. 'import' is simply a disambiguation helper for the compiler. It's got nothing to do with what code actually gets included in the resultant .swf. You can prove this by typing: import com.fred.* // Replace with some set of classes you're not using in your current project And recompiling. The .swf file size won't go up until you actually _reference_ an object that belongs to one of those packages. As soon as you typed: var f:MyClass=new MyClass(); or, in fact var f:com.fred.MyClass=new com.fred.MyClass(); The file size would go up. So - in answer to RifledCloaca - no, you don't need to type 'import' at all, as long as you refer to all your classes by full packagename. Ian On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because if Flash imported every class available to it automatically, then your .swf files would be huge and unnecessarily bloated. Do you really want the code to all the Remoting classes imported into your .swf if you're not using them? When you include, the actionscript cotained in the class is embedded in the .swf. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Jonathan Berry, M.A. IT Consultant 619.306.1712(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mindarc.com --- This E-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ?? 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. This information is confidential information and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. --- ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] eLearning built in Flex
I got busy last night and forgot. It was the season finale of Lost, and I'm hoping they made it out of the hatch alive. I'll try and dig it up tonight. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Thatcher Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:29 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] eLearning built in Flex Jason and the other guy that mentioned building e-learning in Flex, Did you bring a link to the e-learning that you mentioned that was built in Flex? Would love to see it :-) Dan Thatcher Online Learning The American Academy of Professional Coders 801-238-9893 (office) 801-879-9253 (mobile) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
Hi, it is included, but not solely becoz of the import statement. I might be wrong, but I believe this is even a 'bug'. Expected behavior: import MyClass causes inclusion of MyClass in the swf Real behavior: import MyClass still requires you to use MyClass somewhere in the code as in var myClass:MyClass, in order for it to be included. Note that we are talking about the Flash IDE here, with mtasc you can include exclude any class you like whether or not it is referenced in the code. greetz Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:25 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. Err...that has not been my understanding at all. If that is the case, then why do you NOT need to include your class files on the server with the .swf? Since reality is you don't, all that code has to be in the .swf upon compiling, otherwise, the .swf wouldn't know what to do with Myvar:MyCoolClass = new MyCoolClass(); If it's not included with the .swf, how would the .swf know what MyCoolClass is otherwise? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:27 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? Errm - actually that's not such a good reason. The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. You could just type com.fred.MyClass throughout the body of your code instead of typing import at the top of the file. 'import' is simply a disambiguation helper for the compiler. It's got nothing to do with what code actually gets included in the resultant .swf. You can prove this by typing: import com.fred.* // Replace with some set of classes you're not using in your current project And recompiling. The .swf file size won't go up until you actually _reference_ an object that belongs to one of those packages. As soon as you typed: var f:MyClass=new MyClass(); or, in fact var f:com.fred.MyClass=new com.fred.MyClass(); The file size would go up. So - in answer to RifledCloaca - no, you don't need to type 'import' at all, as long as you refer to all your classes by full packagename. Ian On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because if Flash imported every class available to it automatically, then your .swf files would be huge and unnecessarily bloated. Do you really want the code to all the Remoting classes imported into your .swf if you're not using them? When you include, the actionscript cotained in the class is embedded in the .swf. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
great review I will use it from here 2006/5/25, Jim Robson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I spent some time evaluating OpenLaszlo for my employer, and it's very nice. We nearly chose it over Flex. However, Flex turned out to be the winner for us. Here are some of the reasons: - Flex has native XML socket server support - Flex supports SOAP in compiled SWF deployments (Laszlo only supports it if you use the server component) - The Flex IDE has a traditional debugger built in - The Flex IDE is more powerful and mature than the Laszlo IDE (even though it's still in Beta, it blows the Laszlo eclipse plugin away) - Flex has a much larger and more active developer community - Adobe is a well-known name, and brings a certain comfort level to clients and prospective clients - Flex supports SVG - FA Bridge - ActionScript 3.0 is preferable to JavaScript -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jcanistrum Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:31 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE and what about OpenLaszlo, has someone given it a try ? I saw some very good demos overthere http://www.openlaszlo.org/demos 2006/5/25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've been too busy developping in Flash lately to give a try to the new Flex yet, so excuse me if the following question sounds stupid: Flex use to be a server product, but with the new Flex Builder can you simply build a swf file like you do with flash and include it in regular html page? (and therefore php,etc...) Or do you absolutely need to have a specific Flex server of some sort running in order to deliver those files? Thank you, Frank -Original Message- From: Muzak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:45 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Have you looked into FDS? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flexdata_services2/ When you say: develop the front ends in flash You mean the Flash IDE? What makes you think developing in Flex does not allow you to communicate with any traditional back-end? Flex Builder is just an IDE. The end result is an swf the same as with the Flash IDE. It's just that an swf published from Flash is currently a different version. regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- João Carlos ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- João Carlos ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
I see - gotcha. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Berry Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:58 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? I think what he is saying is that if you had a dozen imports or imported an entire package (*) it would not include the specific classes until you actually referenced them. On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. Err...that has not been my understanding at all. If that is the case, then why do you NOT need to include your class files on the server with the .swf? Since reality is you don't, all that code has to be in the .swf upon compiling, otherwise, the .swf wouldn't know what to do with Myvar:MyCoolClass = new MyCoolClass(); If it's not included with the .swf, how would the .swf know what MyCoolClass is otherwise? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:27 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? Errm - actually that's not such a good reason. The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. You could just type com.fred.MyClass throughout the body of your code instead of typing import at the top of the file. 'import' is simply a disambiguation helper for the compiler. It's got nothing to do with what code actually gets included in the resultant .swf. You can prove this by typing: import com.fred.* // Replace with some set of classes you're not using in your current project And recompiling. The .swf file size won't go up until you actually _reference_ an object that belongs to one of those packages. As soon as you typed: var f:MyClass=new MyClass(); or, in fact var f:com.fred.MyClass=new com.fred.MyClass(); The file size would go up. So - in answer to RifledCloaca - no, you don't need to type 'import' at all, as long as you refer to all your classes by full packagename. Ian On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because if Flash imported every class available to it automatically, then your .swf files would be huge and unnecessarily bloated. Do you really want the code to all the Remoting classes imported into your .swf if you're not using them? When you include, the actionscript cotained in the class is embedded in the .swf. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Jonathan Berry, M.A. IT Consultant 619.306.1712(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mindarc.com --- This E-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ?? 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. This information is confidential information and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. --- ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
The import statement embeds, but so does this: var a:mx.controls.Button; import also allows you to use a shortcut as has been mentioned already. From the docs: Lets you access classes without specifying their fully qualified names. .. You must issue the import statement before you try to access the imported class without fully specifying its name. If you import a class but don't use it in your script, the class isn't exported as part of the SWF file. This means you can import large packages without being concerned about the size of the SWF file; the bytecode associated with a class is included in a SWF file only if that class is actually used. If you import but don't use it it's not included ... however, in practice you can definitely see that the SWF file size has changed. I took a blank FLA and published for a SWF size of 43 bytes. I then used this code: import mx.controls.Button; import mx.controls.List; import mx.controls.Tree; import mx.controls.DataGrid; import mx.containers.Accordion; File size: 42.5 KB I then used this code: var b:mx.controls.Button; var l:mx.controls.List; var t:mx.controls.Tree; var d:mx.controls.DataGrid; var a:mx.containers.Accordion; FileSize: 48.3 KB I then used this code: import mx.controls.Button; import mx.controls.List; import mx.controls.Tree; import mx.controls.DataGrid; import mx.containers.Accordion; var b:Button; var l:List; var t:Tree; var d:DataGrid; var a:Accordion; FileSize: 48.3 KB So the classes seem to be included in the SWF with just the import statements. Of course there is no difference if you import and use them compared to using them with explicit reference to the classes. Now the docs say that import by itself doesn't include the classes, but I used this code: import mx.controls.Button; import mx.controls.List; import mx.controls.Tree; import mx.controls.DataGrid; import mx.containers.Accordion; trace(_global['mx']['controls']['Button']); The output panel displays [type Function] telling me that the class was indeed included. The compiler doesn't understand the [] notation as a reference to the class during compile-time, so I don't think that's why it worked. I think the classes are indeed included. However, someone could prove me wrong. Incidentally, the file size was 42.5 KB ... so, trim the fat and use [] notation! Derek Vadneau - Original Message - From: Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. Err...that has not been my understanding at all. If that is the case, then why do you NOT need to include your class files on the server with the .swf? Since reality is you don't, all that code has to be in the swf upon compiling, otherwise, the .swf wouldn't know what to do with Myvar:MyCoolClass = new MyCoolClass(); If it's not included with the .swf, how would the .swf know what MyCoolClass is otherwise? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Image alpha fade
I'm creating a slideshow. I've accomplished creating an alpha fade in
to 100 when the image loads. I need to also have the alpha fade back
to zero *before* the next image loads. I'd like to call this from the
nextImage() function below. Ideas?
this.onEnterFrame = function() {
filesize = picture.getBytesTotal();
loaded = picture.getBytesLoaded();
preloader._visible = true;
if (loaded != filesize) {
preloader.preload_bar._xscale = 100*loaded/filesize;
} else {
preloader._visible = false;
if (picture._alpha100) {
picture._alpha += 5;
}
}
};
function nextImage() {
if (p(total-1)) {
p++;
if (loaded == filesize) {
picture._alpha = 0;
picture.loadMovie(image[p], 1);
desc_txt.text = description[p];
title_txt.text = imagetitle[p];
picture_num();
}
}
};
Thanks,
Corey
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Re: [Flashcoders] TextInput disabled when loaded into a Window Component into a child swf
On 25/05/06, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a window that is loading a swf file which has a movieclip with a TextInput in it that refuses to work- Is this a known bug and is there a workaround? Thanks Mani ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
import in flash is only used to save you some typing. when you use import com.package.Class; the class is *not* included in the swf until you reference that class in your code somewhere. like var blah:Class; you don't have to use import, you can also use: var blah:com.package.Class; and it will behave exactly the same way, only every time you reference the class, you'll need to type the full path instead of just 'Class' it's just a typing shortcut. On May 25, 2006, at 2:01 PM, j.c.wichman wrote: Hi, it is included, but not solely becoz of the import statement. I might be wrong, but I believe this is even a 'bug'. Expected behavior: import MyClass causes inclusion of MyClass in the swf Real behavior: import MyClass still requires you to use MyClass somewhere in the code as in var myClass:MyClass, in order for it to be included. Note that we are talking about the Flash IDE here, with mtasc you can include exclude any class you like whether or not it is referenced in the code. greetz Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:25 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. Err...that has not been my understanding at all. If that is the case, then why do you NOT need to include your class files on the server with the .swf? Since reality is you don't, all that code has to be in the .swf upon compiling, otherwise, the .swf wouldn't know what to do with Myvar:MyCoolClass = new MyCoolClass(); If it's not included with the .swf, how would the .swf know what MyCoolClass is otherwise? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:27 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? Errm - actually that's not such a good reason. The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. You could just type com.fred.MyClass throughout the body of your code instead of typing import at the top of the file. 'import' is simply a disambiguation helper for the compiler. It's got nothing to do with what code actually gets included in the resultant .swf. You can prove this by typing: import com.fred.* // Replace with some set of classes you're not using in your current project And recompiling. The .swf file size won't go up until you actually _reference_ an object that belongs to one of those packages. As soon as you typed: var f:MyClass=new MyClass(); or, in fact var f:com.fred.MyClass=new com.fred.MyClass(); The file size would go up. So - in answer to RifledCloaca - no, you don't need to type 'import' at all, as long as you refer to all your classes by full packagename. Ian On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because if Flash imported every class available to it automatically, then your .swf files would be huge and unnecessarily bloated. Do you really want the code to all the Remoting classes imported into your .swf if you're not using them? When you include, the actionscript cotained in the class is embedded in the .swf. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] eLearning built in Flex
Well... I don't know about Eko, Desmond and Locke...but Charlie made it. My brain is still crunching on what exactly happened last night. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:59 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] eLearning built in Flex I got busy last night and forgot. It was the season finale of Lost, and I'm hoping they made it out of the hatch alive. I'll try and dig it up tonight. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Thatcher Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:29 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] eLearning built in Flex Jason and the other guy that mentioned building e-learning in Flex, Did you bring a link to the e-learning that you mentioned that was built in Flex? Would love to see it :-) Dan Thatcher Online Learning The American Academy of Professional Coders 801-238-9893 (office) 801-879-9253 (mobile) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Mike, I didn't have much luck with the Laszlo community. I posted several questions, and most of them went unanswered. Maybe they just don't like ignorant newbies? I also couldn't get Laszlo Systems to answer all of my questions. They sent me a nice email when I joined their forum, but when I asked some questions, they only answered some of them (and the answers they did send were a long time coming). Overall, it seemed to me that the Laszlo support was lacking compared to what I've found with Flex. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Boutin Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:34 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Yes OpenLaszlo is a great solution. Ive used it quite a bit. They have a awesome community for help and getting started with it. jcanistrum wrote: and what about OpenLaszlo, has someone given it a try ? I saw some very good demos overthere http://www.openlaszlo.org/demos 2006/5/25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've been too busy developping in Flash lately to give a try to the new Flex yet, so excuse me if the following question sounds stupid: Flex use to be a server product, but with the new Flex Builder can you simply build a swf file like you do with flash and include it in regular html page? (and therefore php,etc...) Or do you absolutely need to have a specific Flex server of some sort running in order to deliver those files? Thank you, Frank -Original Message- From: Muzak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:45 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Have you looked into FDS? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flexdata_services2/ When you say: develop the front ends in flash You mean the Flash IDE? What makes you think developing in Flex does not allow you to communicate with any traditional back-end? Flex Builder is just an IDE. The end result is an swf the same as with the Flash IDE. It's just that an swf published from Flash is currently a different version. regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] movie clip load order FIFO or FILO
Hi, I recently purchased Zinc to simply have more control over the window
(placement, title, icon - that's all I wanted for this project!!) and it is
causing issues with my program.
I use the following code to create some movie clips:
for (var i=0;icount;i++)
{
filePath = pstrFolderPath + swatchNameArray[i];
paLoadedSwatchClips.push(new swatch(this, pobjMainRef, pmcSWFHolder, i,
filePath, theCounterValues[i]));
}
The swatch class has the following code that actually creates the clips:
loadListener.onLoadInit = function(target_mc:MovieClip)
{
trace(target_mc + ' is done loading' + ' !! ' + thisRef.pnID);
var mdm = _global.mdm;
mdm.Exception.DebugWindow.trace(target_mc + ' is done loading' + ' !! ' +
thisRef.pnID, mdm.ASYNC)
thisRef.pmcLoadedClip = target_mc; // Set reference for calling play and stop
thisRef.pobjSetRef.mClipDone();
// Store height before we put textfield on there
thisRef.pnMyHeight = target_mc._height;
thisRef.mCreateCounter(initialCount);
}
mcLoader.addListener(loadListener);
var thePath = _global.mdm.Application.path + swfPath;
mcLoader.loadClip(swfPath, pmcButton);
My trace statements in Flash are in order - 0,1,2.
I am using Flash MX 2004.
When I run it through Zinc, and when customer support runs my files, the trace
statements are reversed - 2,1,0
I guess I'm wondering if load order has changed since 2004 version... This
problem is breaking this part of my program when I run it through Zinc, and
want to know if it is Zinc, or an issue with Flash?
Any help would be appreciated,
Jason
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RE: [Flashcoders] XML Parsing
Matt, On a reasonably fast computer, a file of 4600+ XML nodes can be slurped in under one second, required download time aside. Your XML requirements are not that steep, so it seems to me that your issue is likely something else not completely obvious in your code sample. Suggestions: 1. If you're placing incoming XML text content into HTML-rendered text fields (primarily using CSS formatting) this can account for a delay. Flash handles tasks related to HTML text very inefficiently (compared to a browser, for example). This can create a significant delay. I've seen this in things I've created that display instantly until I apply text formatting, then it takes a couple of seconds to load. 2. If you're using a pre-loading mechanism, you need to be sure to import class code and Library assets that are exporting for ActionScript on a frame subsequent to the one used to display pre-loader graphics and/or load in your XML data. Loading a bunch of class code and object data, which likely have little or nothing to do with your XML, on the first frame -- the default, can create a significant delay. - pixelTwiddler, a.k.a. Jason ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Controlling an Embedded SWF
What number do you get if you trace the total number of frames that your SWF (A) contains ? Maybe it's a path issue :-\ A+ Loren R. Elks a écrit : Hi: I have a SWF (SWF A) that I'm loading into a movieclip (Movieclip C)which is part of another SWF (SWF B). Basically, SWF B functions as a player, with play and pause controls. These controls control Movieclip C where the external SWF A is loaded into. Normally, I have had no problem with this and it always works. At run time, when you click the pause button on SWF B, a stop() command is issued to Movieclip C, which stops the play of the external movieclip (SWF A) loaded into it. However, I did a screen capture with Captivate and published it as a SWF. I loaded this SWF (SWF A) into Movieclip C in SWF B at run time. However, clicking the controls on SWF I created has NO EFFECT on the SWF I created in Captivate. It just keeps playing. I guess all SWFs are NOT created equal. How can I make this work? Loren The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing. - John Powell ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- === Éric Thibault Programmeur analyste Réseau de valorisation de l'enseignement Université Laval, pavillon Félix-Antoine Savard Québec, Canada Tel.: 656-2131 poste 18015 Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Avis relatif à la confidentialité / Notice of Confidentiality / Advertencia de confidencialidad http://www.rec.ulaval.ca/lce/securite/confidentialite.htm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
Also interesting to note here. If you make two layers in the timeline and in the top layer you put x = 10; And the bottom layer you put trace(x); you'll get 10. However, if in the top layer you put import SomeStaticClass; And in the bottom layer you put SomeStaticClass.someMethod(); It doesn't work. Imports only work in the scope of the specific script itself, not the clip those scripts are in, even though scripts in layers in Flash allegedly work from top to bottom as if they were one big script. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
The import statements tell the compiler where to find the classes your going to use, it compiles into the byte code only the classes you use. You could also do it by giving the full package.class of the class too. Import statements aren't strictly necessary, but they save a lot of typing if your using the library a lot. On 5/25/06, Derek Vadneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The import statement embeds, but so does this: var a:mx.controls.Button; import also allows you to use a shortcut as has been mentioned already. From the docs: Lets you access classes without specifying their fully qualified names. .. You must issue the import statement before you try to access the imported class without fully specifying its name. If you import a class but don't use it in your script, the class isn't exported as part of the SWF file. This means you can import large packages without being concerned about the size of the SWF file; the bytecode associated with a class is included in a SWF file only if that class is actually used. If you import but don't use it it's not included ... however, in practice you can definitely see that the SWF file size has changed. I took a blank FLA and published for a SWF size of 43 bytes. I then used this code: import mx.controls.Button; import mx.controls.List; import mx.controls.Tree; import mx.controls.DataGrid; import mx.containers.Accordion; File size: 42.5 KB I then used this code: var b:mx.controls.Button; var l:mx.controls.List; var t:mx.controls.Tree; var d:mx.controls.DataGrid; var a:mx.containers.Accordion; FileSize: 48.3 KB I then used this code: import mx.controls.Button; import mx.controls.List; import mx.controls.Tree; import mx.controls.DataGrid; import mx.containers.Accordion; var b:Button; var l:List; var t:Tree; var d:DataGrid; var a:Accordion; FileSize: 48.3 KB So the classes seem to be included in the SWF with just the import statements. Of course there is no difference if you import and use them compared to using them with explicit reference to the classes. Now the docs say that import by itself doesn't include the classes, but I used this code: import mx.controls.Button; import mx.controls.List; import mx.controls.Tree; import mx.controls.DataGrid; import mx.containers.Accordion; trace(_global['mx']['controls']['Button']); The output panel displays [type Function] telling me that the class was indeed included. The compiler doesn't understand the [] notation as a reference to the class during compile-time, so I don't think that's why it worked. I think the classes are indeed included. However, someone could prove me wrong. Incidentally, the file size was 42.5 KB ... so, trim the fat and use [] notation! Derek Vadneau - Original Message - From: Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. Err...that has not been my understanding at all. If that is the case, then why do you NOT need to include your class files on the server with the .swf? Since reality is you don't, all that code has to be in the swf upon compiling, otherwise, the .swf wouldn't know what to do with Myvar:MyCoolClass = new MyCoolClass(); If it's not included with the .swf, how would the .swf know what MyCoolClass is otherwise? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Weldon MacDonald ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] eLearning built in Flex
Locke has to make it - he's an even better character than Hurley, also one of my favs. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Thatcher Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:41 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] eLearning built in Flex Well... I don't know about Eko, Desmond and Locke...but Charlie made it. My brain is still crunching on what exactly happened last night. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:59 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] eLearning built in Flex I got busy last night and forgot. It was the season finale of Lost, and I'm hoping they made it out of the hatch alive. I'll try and dig it up tonight. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Thatcher Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:29 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] eLearning built in Flex Jason and the other guy that mentioned building e-learning in Flex, Did you bring a link to the e-learning that you mentioned that was built in Flex? Would love to see it :-) Dan Thatcher Online Learning The American Academy of Professional Coders 801-238-9893 (office) 801-879-9253 (mobile) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Controlling an Embedded SWF
clicking the controls on SWF I created has NO EFFECT on the SWF I created in Captivate. It just keeps playing. I believe that's a Captivate-produced-.swf thing. You're assuming the main timeline of the Captivate .swf is where the animation happens, and that the animation can be stopped with a simple stop() command. There is some documentation out there - (I don't know where, maybe Google, maybe in the Capitvate help docs, not sure) - that tells you about the Captivate .swf timeline and what you can call and do to it. But just telling the Captivate.swf to stop I'm guessing probably isn't going to work anyway - you might have to target some other timeline or property in the .swf to make it stop. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] eLearning built in Flex
The writing on the show (I'm a huge fan and have suspended disbelief for a long time) has become extremely weak over the past few episodes. They force extremely unrealistic reactions from people and have characters completely ignore stuff going on around them. Tell me. If the earth shook, there was a deafening buzz and the sky turned white and violet and eventually it went away, would you say Hm. What was that? Doesn't matter. Better clean up this mess. Give me a freaking break. I guess only the main characters are allowed to be humans with brains and the rest of the people are only animated paintings in the backdrop. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
There is a bit of an anomaly with importing classes... For example you have 3 classes. Let's call them FirstClass, SecondClass and ThirdClass. Within FirstClass you import and create an instance of SecondClass and within SecondClass you import and create an instance of ThirdClass, creating a chain. On the main timeline of the fla, you import FirstClass, but don't create an instance of it. Because you didn't create an instance of it, rightfully it is not compiled. But, both SecondClass AND ThirdClass are compiled. You can check it either by file size or by clicking Debug--List Variables in the player window. Most likely because there is an instance of SecondClass created within FirstClass and an instance of ThirdClass created within SecondClass. It would make sense though that because an Instance of FirstClass was not created, that the compiler should just stop right there, but that isn't the case. Perhaps that's why there is the flaName_exclude.xml trick, but even then you have to explicitly exclude each class. It's not really a trick, but may be a little known concept. - James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Stearns Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:36 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? import in flash is only used to save you some typing. when you use import com.package.Class; the class is *not* included in the swf until you reference that class in your code somewhere. like var blah:Class; you don't have to use import, you can also use: var blah:com.package.Class; and it will behave exactly the same way, only every time you reference the class, you'll need to type the full path instead of just 'Class' it's just a typing shortcut. On May 25, 2006, at 2:01 PM, j.c.wichman wrote: Hi, it is included, but not solely becoz of the import statement. I might be wrong, but I believe this is even a 'bug'. Expected behavior: import MyClass causes inclusion of MyClass in the swf Real behavior: import MyClass still requires you to use MyClass somewhere in the code as in var myClass:MyClass, in order for it to be included. Note that we are talking about the Flash IDE here, with mtasc you can include exclude any class you like whether or not it is referenced in the code. greetz Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:25 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. Err...that has not been my understanding at all. If that is the case, then why do you NOT need to include your class files on the server with the .swf? Since reality is you don't, all that code has to be in the .swf upon compiling, otherwise, the .swf wouldn't know what to do with Myvar:MyCoolClass = new MyCoolClass(); If it's not included with the .swf, how would the .swf know what MyCoolClass is otherwise? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:27 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? Errm - actually that's not such a good reason. The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. You could just type com.fred.MyClass throughout the body of your code instead of typing import at the top of the file. 'import' is simply a disambiguation helper for the compiler. It's got nothing to do with what code actually gets included in the resultant .swf. You can prove this by typing: import com.fred.* // Replace with some set of classes you're not using in your current project And recompiling. The .swf file size won't go up until you actually _reference_ an object that belongs to one of those packages. As soon as you typed: var f:MyClass=new MyClass(); or, in fact var f:com.fred.MyClass=new com.fred.MyClass(); The file size would go up. So - in answer to RifledCloaca - no, you don't need to type 'import' at all, as long as you refer to all your classes by full packagename. Ian On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because if Flash imported every class available to it automatically, then your .swf files would be huge and unnecessarily bloated. Do you really want the code to all the Remoting classes imported into your .swf if you're not using them? When you include, the actionscript
RE: [Flashcoders] Controlling an Embedded SWF
In Captivate Help, search for Controlling Captivate movies with variables. Matthew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:06 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Controlling an Embedded SWF clicking the controls on SWF I created has NO EFFECT on the SWF I created in Captivate. It just keeps playing. I believe that's a Captivate-produced-.swf thing. You're assuming the main timeline of the Captivate .swf is where the animation happens, and that the animation can be stopped with a simple stop() command. There is some documentation out there - (I don't know where, maybe Google, maybe in the Capitvate help docs, not sure) - that tells you about the Captivate .swf timeline and what you can call and do to it. But just telling the Captivate.swf to stop I'm guessing probably isn't going to work anyway - you might have to target some other timeline or property in the .swf to make it stop. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com This e-mail and its attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, displaying, copying, or use of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please inform the sender immediately and delete and destroy any record of this message. Thank you. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
Then how do you explain my results? 43 bytes for a SWF with nothing in it compared to 42.5 KB (that's kilobytes) with only 5 import statements. How do you account for the ~42.4 KB? And how do you account for the fact that a trace of the class using [] notation traces out [type Function]? If the classes were in fact not included, would it not return undefined? The compiler doesn't know that I've referenced the class when I use [] notation. Derek Vadneau - Original Message - From: Weldon MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? The import statements tell the compiler where to find the classes your going to use, it compiles into the byte code only the classes you use. You could also do it by giving the full package.class of the class too. Import statements aren't strictly necessary, but they save a lot of typing if your using the library a lot. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
Derek, Where did you place those imports? On the timeline, or in an external AS class file? Would it make a difference? -g ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
I found the Laszlo mailinglist to be very helpful. I got a quicker response rather than using the forums. I believe the sign up is at openlaszlo.org Mike Jim Robson wrote: Mike, I didn't have much luck with the Laszlo community. I posted several questions, and most of them went unanswered. Maybe they just don't like ignorant newbies? I also couldn't get Laszlo Systems to answer all of my questions. They sent me a nice email when I joined their forum, but when I asked some questions, they only answered some of them (and the answers they did send were a long time coming). Overall, it seemed to me that the Laszlo support was lacking compared to what I've found with Flex. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Boutin Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:34 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Yes OpenLaszlo is a great solution. Ive used it quite a bit. They have a awesome community for help and getting started with it. jcanistrum wrote: and what about OpenLaszlo, has someone given it a try ? I saw some very good demos overthere http://www.openlaszlo.org/demos 2006/5/25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've been too busy developping in Flash lately to give a try to the new Flex yet, so excuse me if the following question sounds stupid: Flex use to be a server product, but with the new Flex Builder can you simply build a swf file like you do with flash and include it in regular html page? (and therefore php,etc...) Or do you absolutely need to have a specific Flex server of some sort running in order to deliver those files? Thank you, Frank -Original Message- From: Muzak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:45 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE The other issue i see with flex is it's ability to scale. It doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a ton of simultaneous connections very well, ala Flash Media Server. Perhaps I'm off base here, but I'd prefer to develop the front ends in flash and communicate back and forth with a traditional back-end I.E. ASP, PHP, etc. Those things are free to develop on, more prove and seemingly scale a hell of a lot better. Yes, it's not as simple as an EASY button, but if work was easy it'd be fun and we'd all be broke. Have you looked into FDS? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flexdata_services2/ When you say: develop the front ends in flash You mean the Flash IDE? What makes you think developing in Flex does not allow you to communicate with any traditional back-end? Flex Builder is just an IDE. The end result is an swf the same as with the Flash IDE. It's just that an swf published from Flash is currently a different version. regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
Adding...Importing it as a package does properly exclude the classes. From my example, obviously why import a class and not use it, but I'm trying to understand the logic of the compiler. - James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Booth Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:17 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? There is a bit of an anomaly with importing classes... For example you have 3 classes. Let's call them FirstClass, SecondClass and ThirdClass. Within FirstClass you import and create an instance of SecondClass and within SecondClass you import and create an instance of ThirdClass, creating a chain. On the main timeline of the fla, you import FirstClass, but don't create an instance of it. Because you didn't create an instance of it, rightfully it is not compiled. But, both SecondClass AND ThirdClass are compiled. You can check it either by file size or by clicking Debug--List Variables in the player window. Most likely because there is an instance of SecondClass created within FirstClass and an instance of ThirdClass created within SecondClass. It would make sense though that because an Instance of FirstClass was not created, that the compiler should just stop right there, but that isn't the case. Perhaps that's why there is the flaName_exclude.xml trick, but even then you have to explicitly exclude each class. It's not really a trick, but may be a little known concept. - James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Stearns Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:36 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? import in flash is only used to save you some typing. when you use import com.package.Class; the class is *not* included in the swf until you reference that class in your code somewhere. like var blah:Class; you don't have to use import, you can also use: var blah:com.package.Class; and it will behave exactly the same way, only every time you reference the class, you'll need to type the full path instead of just 'Class' it's just a typing shortcut. On May 25, 2006, at 2:01 PM, j.c.wichman wrote: Hi, it is included, but not solely becoz of the import statement. I might be wrong, but I believe this is even a 'bug'. Expected behavior: import MyClass causes inclusion of MyClass in the swf Real behavior: import MyClass still requires you to use MyClass somewhere in the code as in var myClass:MyClass, in order for it to be included. Note that we are talking about the Flash IDE here, with mtasc you can include exclude any class you like whether or not it is referenced in the code. greetz Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:25 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. Err...that has not been my understanding at all. If that is the case, then why do you NOT need to include your class files on the server with the .swf? Since reality is you don't, all that code has to be in the .swf upon compiling, otherwise, the .swf wouldn't know what to do with Myvar:MyCoolClass = new MyCoolClass(); If it's not included with the .swf, how would the .swf know what MyCoolClass is otherwise? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Thomas Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:27 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary? Errm - actually that's not such a good reason. The 'import' statement doesn't actually embed a class into the .swf. All it does is tell the compiler that when you type (for example) MyClass, you are actually referring to com.fred.MyClass. You could just type com.fred.MyClass throughout the body of your code instead of typing import at the top of the file. 'import' is simply a disambiguation helper for the compiler. It's got nothing to do with what code actually gets included in the resultant .swf. You can prove this by typing: import com.fred.* // Replace with some set of classes you're not using in your current project And recompiling. The .swf file size won't go up until you actually _reference_ an object that belongs to one of those packages. As soon as you typed: var f:MyClass=new MyClass(); or, in fact var f:com.fred.MyClass=new com.fred.MyClass(); The file size would go up. So - in answer to RifledCloaca - no, you don't need to
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
Yep - just to reiterate (and hopefully make it more clear): The line: import com.fred.MyClass; Is _not enough_ to get Flash to compile MyClass into your .swf file. You need to actually _reference_ MyClass for it to be included. e.g. var a:MyClass=new MyClass(); In fact, import is _nothing to do_ with getting Flash to include compiled code into a .swf. All import does is to tell the compiler that whenever you refer to a class by a short name (MyClass) that it doesn't know anything about, it should check through the list of imports and try and match it up with one of them; and when it gets a successful match it should use the full package name and class. It's kind of when I _say_ MyClass, I really _mean_ com.fred.MyClass, but can't be bothered typing it That's all. :-) And that's why import com.fred.*; works. The compiler is just using that line (when you refer to a class by it's short name later on) to do a simple pattern match to try to work out what the package name for the class really is. import com.fred.* doesn't include all the _code_ of com.fred.*. It just means when I mention a class you haven't heard of before and can't find, check it against everything under com.fred. If it _did_ include all the code, your swfs would be bloated beyond belief. It's the actual usage of references to the object - declaration, instantiation, method calling - that makes Flash's equivalent of a linker include the compiled code for the class into the SWF. This is demonstrated when you are trying to instantiate classes via something like ClassFinder (http://dynamicflash.com/2005/03/class-finder/) and only ever referring to them using string names rather than actually referring to them directly in code. You'll find that you _can't_ instantiate the classes, even if you put in import lines for them - Flash hasn't worked out you need them in your .swf. So you need to actually put references to them into the code - normally doing something like: import com.fred.MyDynamicClass; var a:MyDynamicClass; is enough to make sure the linker works it all out and it's included. Hope that makes it clearer, Ian On 5/25/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see - gotcha. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OOP 101: Is import really necessary?
Hi Derek, That's really interesting - and goes against everything I'd expect. Particularly when your other results have kind of proved the opposite (and I've certainly proved the opposite before with ClassFinder situations). A couple of other tests might prove illuminating... - Is the same true of non-Macromedia classes? (i.e. have they hacked something specifically for those? I'd doubt it, but you never know) - How does it behave when you do something like: import mx.controls.Button; var a:String=mx; trace(_global[a]['controls']['Button']); In other words, is the compiler doing some cunning reduction on the string literals and actually working out that you're using the class? Again, I doubt it, but you never know! You have me mystified. :-D I'd test it myself, but have to rush off now to put up a tent in about 10cm of muddy water in a field somewhere in the middle of the UK. If nothings come to light by the beginning of next week, I'll have another look. :-) Cheers, Ian On 5/25/06, Derek Vadneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now the docs say that import by itself doesn't include the classes, but I used this code: import mx.controls.Button; import mx.controls.List; import mx.controls.Tree; import mx.controls.DataGrid; import mx.containers.Accordion; trace(_global['mx']['controls']['Button']); ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
