[Flashcoders] Shared fonts
I'm trying to figure wheter the overcomplex solutions for shared fonts are due to bugs in the proprietary player or design choices. In particular, why shouldn't a loader movie be allowed to use fonts defined in a *loaded* movie while the other way around should be possible ? Or, why not maintaining a single shared font library for a whole run ? --strk; () ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Keep it simple! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
mate it's definitely a weakness of flash but i wouldn't quite call it a bug Adobe needs to look at it tho, coz having a common font library is tough (although one of the guys i worked with said it was possible by copying the format from the loaded swf) i found this online that looks like it might help http://www.mokisystems.com/blog/flash-as3-loading-fonts/ On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:45 PM, strk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to figure wheter the overcomplex solutions for shared fonts are due to bugs in the proprietary player or design choices. In particular, why shouldn't a loader movie be allowed to use fonts defined in a *loaded* movie while the other way around should be possible ? Or, why not maintaining a single shared font library for a whole run ? --strk; () ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Keep it simple! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 06:07:18PM +0100, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: mate it's definitely a weakness of flash but i wouldn't quite call it a bug Adobe needs to look at it tho, coz having a common font library is tough (although one of the guys i worked with said it was possible by copying the format from the loaded swf) The only reason I can think of for not using a single library is the case in which loading a movie would override a previously defined font. It would explain why a loaded movie can use fonts from loader but not the other way around (a kind of visibility graph). --strk; ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts, linkage and Arabic
Finally figured out how to make font symbols (with linkage turned on) include foreign character sets. The instructions outlined here: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_16275 do actually work given you take into account two crucial pieces of info regarding BUGS IN FLASH. The two pieces of crucial info that solved the issue for me are these: 1) If there is more than one font symbol in the library Flash will not add foreign character sets to any of the fonts. That means creating one swf per font symbol. 2) If a font symbol (with linkage turned on) uses the exact same font that is embedded in a text field in the same swf, all non-Roman characters stop getting exported. For example: text field 1 has the font Tahoma set to Korean characters embedded. Export, it works fine. Now, set a font symbol in the library (with linkage turned on) to use Tahoma. Export, no non-Roman characters get exported. Interesting research, Michael, thanks for the report. Danny ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts, linkage and Arabic
Finally figured out how to make font symbols (with linkage turned on) include foreign character sets. The instructions outlined here: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_16275 do actually work given you take into account two crucial pieces of info regarding BUGS IN FLASH. The two pieces of crucial info that solved the issue for me are these: 1) If there is more than one font symbol in the library Flash will not add foreign character sets to any of the fonts. That means creating one swf per font symbol. 2) If a font symbol (with linkage turned on) uses the exact same font that is embedded in a text field in the same swf, all non-Roman characters stop getting exported. For example: text field 1 has the font Tahoma set to Korean characters embedded. Export, it works fine. Now, set a font symbol in the library (with linkage turned on) to use Tahoma. Export, no non-Roman characters get exported. I'll eventually report this to Adobe but I'd be happy if someone beat me to it. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts, linkage and Arabic
Hi, Michael Instead of using a Font symbol as the symbol to export for runtime sharing, use a MovieClip symbol containing a TextField that embeds the Unicode ranges of the font you wish to share. Yes, this is where I've ended up - although as I mentioned in a separate thread, this has its own problems because setNewTextFormat is failing for text set by .variable, which is my preferred method for making this thing work. Still, I know it's solvable. Your bigger problem with Arabic is the lack of bidirectional text support in Flash. Yes, I'm just embarking on that joy today. It's a particular nightmare because bidi text *does* work on the Mac, so I have to make the code platform-dependent (and I bet some day Adobe will make it work on PC's and break all my code) Also, in my experience trying to use an embedded font for Arabic, the FlashPlayer fails to connect the letters. This I wasn't aware of - can you go into more detail? Thanks Danny ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts, linkage and Arabic
Danny, Instead of using a Font symbol as the symbol to export for runtime sharing, use a MovieClip symbol containing a TextField that embeds the Unicode ranges of the font you wish to share. Your bigger problem with Arabic is the lack of bidirectional text support in Flash. Also, in my experience trying to use an embedded font for Arabic, the FlashPlayer fails to connect the letters. You may want to check out these presentation notes: http://www.flashextensions.com/lecture.php Good luck, Michael -Original Message- From: Michael Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 4:47 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts, linkage and Arabic Hey Danny, I'm having problems with this as well. It should be so simple but I have not yet found a solution. If you're on a PC (as I am) this link has some helpful info and a proposed solution for this exact problem but: http://www.quasimondo.com/archives/000211.php Unfortuantly the solution proposed (creating font substitute entries in the registry that reference your target language codepage ID) dosen't work for me: After I create the font substitues I can access them from Flash's font menue but after setting my font symbol to use them I still only get Roman characters. Adobe also has some promising sounding advice about changing the codepage for the system here: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_16275 Put the procedure outlined doesn't work either. Although it partially worked with one specific font and language pair (thai). But that was one out of twenty or so combos and it only worked temporarily Another thing I noticed: If one of my font symbols (with linkage turned on) uses the same font as is embedded in a text field, all non-Roman charaters stop getting exported. For example: text field 1 has the font Tahoma set to Korean characters embedded. I export, it works fine. Now, I set one of my font symbols (with linkage turned on) to use Tahoma. I export, no non-Roman characters get exported. Damn! If you discover any potential solutions please let me know! -Mike Danny Kodicek wrote: I can't believe I'm still having problems with this. I need to get a shared font symbol to include Arabic characters (and indeed any characters). So I've got my shared library called sharedFontLib. In it, I've created a font symbol called sharedFont. Now, if I leave linkage off, this font works perfectly: I can include an input field in sharedFontLib using the font, and type in any characters I like. But if I turn linkage on for the font, all non-Roman characters stop working (this is with Embed - all on the input field). The same is true in other movies using the same font. Come on folks - someone there must have got shared fonts working with non-Roman characters! Danny ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts, linkage and Arabic
Hey Danny, I'm having problems with this as well. It should be so simple but I have not yet found a solution. If you're on a PC (as I am) this link has some helpful info and a proposed solution for this exact problem but: http://www.quasimondo.com/archives/000211.php Unfortuantly the solution proposed (creating font substitute entries in the registry that reference your target language codepage ID) dosen't work for me: After I create the font substitues I can access them from Flash's font menue but after setting my font symbol to use them I still only get Roman characters. Adobe also has some promising sounding advice about changing the codepage for the system here: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_16275 Put the procedure outlined doesn't work either. Although it partially worked with one specific font and language pair (thai). But that was one out of twenty or so combos and it only worked temporarily Another thing I noticed: If one of my font symbols (with linkage turned on) uses the same font as is embedded in a text field, all non-Roman charaters stop getting exported. For example: text field 1 has the font Tahoma set to Korean characters embedded. I export, it works fine. Now, I set one of my font symbols (with linkage turned on) to use Tahoma. I export, no non-Roman characters get exported. Damn! If you discover any potential solutions please let me know! -Mike Danny Kodicek wrote: I can't believe I'm still having problems with this. I need to get a shared font symbol to include Arabic characters (and indeed any characters). So I've got my shared library called sharedFontLib. In it, I've created a font symbol called sharedFont. Now, if I leave linkage off, this font works perfectly: I can include an input field in sharedFontLib using the font, and type in any characters I like. But if I turn linkage on for the font, all non-Roman characters stop working (this is with Embed - all on the input field). The same is true in other movies using the same font. Come on folks - someone there must have got shared fonts working with non-Roman characters! Danny ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Shared fonts, linkage and Arabic
I can't believe I'm still having problems with this. I need to get a shared font symbol to include Arabic characters (and indeed any characters). So I've got my shared library called sharedFontLib. In it, I've created a font symbol called sharedFont. Now, if I leave linkage off, this font works perfectly: I can include an input field in sharedFontLib using the font, and type in any characters I like. But if I turn linkage on for the font, all non-Roman characters stop working (this is with Embed - all on the input field). The same is true in other movies using the same font. Come on folks - someone there must have got shared fonts working with non-Roman characters! Danny ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Shared Fonts in Flash 7
What's the best approach for sharing a font in Flash 7? In Flash 6, I could place the font in a base movie and create text fields in loaded movies dynamically using the font in base. This doesn't appear to work in Flash 7. There were lots of problems using shared fonts in Flash 6. Branden Hall outlined these a long time ago: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/pipermail/flashcoders/2002-August/045588.html. Have things changed? Do shared fonts work properly in Flash 7? Thanks, Raymond Simmons ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts : method with 2 files seems faster that method with 1 file
The shared lib isn't loaded twice. You just have to wait for a delay frame, in order to use it. That's all. Actually I'm pretty sure it does load twice but I'd be glad to hear that I'm wrong. Let me show you what I mean. Good observation, but wrong tools, IMHO. I wouldn't want to rely too much on the bandwidth profiler to make good assumptions. But perhaps the behavior (that I have observed following your test) can perhaps only be for offline use ? Following your line, I've hosted Zarate's file on a web server. Requesting the files with firefox and livehttpheaders. That don't give the same results as yours. And I would preferably rely on those tools instead. Here are an output of the session : --- http://www.v-i-a.net/t/ GET /t/ HTTP/1.1 Host: www.v-i-a.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060603 Firefox/1.5.0.4 Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/ plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive HTTP/1.x 200 OK Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:33:40 GMT Server: Apache Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100 Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: text/html Content-Encoding: gzip Content-Length: 567 -- http://www.v-i-a.net/t/index.swf GET /t/index.swf HTTP/1.1 Host: www.v-i-a.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060603 Firefox/1.5.0.4 Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/ plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive Referer: http://www.v-i-a.net/t/ HTTP/1.x 200 OK Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:33:41 GMT Server: Apache Last-Modified: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:22:12 GMT Etag: 18a8b8e-37c-44b50594 Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 892 Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=99 Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: application/x-shockwave-flash -- http://www.v-i-a.net/favicon.ico GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1 Host: www.v-i-a.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060603 Firefox/1.5.0.4 Accept: image/png,*/*;q=0.5 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive HTTP/1.x 404 Not Found Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:33:41 GMT Server: Apache Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=97 Connection: Keep-Alive Transfer-Encoding: chunked Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 -- http://www.v-i-a.net/t/Quadaptor.swf GET /t/Quadaptor.swf HTTP/1.1 Host: www.v-i-a.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060603 Firefox/1.5.0.4 Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/ plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive HTTP/1.x 200 OK Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:33:41 GMT Server: Apache Last-Modified: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 13:48:40 GMT Etag: 18a8b8f-1b47-424ea2b8 Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 6983 Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=97 Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: application/x-shockwave-flash -- You'll notice that the shared font lib is requested only once. As to conclude that the loading appears twice offline and once online, I can't. On the topic of faux fonts, could you please send me (privatly) a swf containing fonts with the Ivan and Bernard technic. I'll try to figure what permit this behavior. Shouldn't be to hard. Perhaps a swfmill not yet implemented feature ? So that's why I was king of leaning forward the 2 SWF file per shared font methods used by Ivan and Bernard because even though there are 2 files instead of one by shared font: 1) You have total control over which glyphs are included directly in the Flash IDE without having to use a 3rd party tool like SWFmill. Completly opposite on this. I compile from eclipse with mtasc and swfmill using as2ant. You definitivelmy should try that combinaison, as it makes your life lighter and… faster :) 2) You CAN use faux bold, faux italic and faux bold italic provided that you included them (with the added file size of course). What version of swf 7 or 8 ? I wait your files to compare the ouput. Thanks. 3) The shared SWF file that gets loaded is only loaded once which is the way it should be. Not a good point, sorry :P 1 more left ! We will try to go as deep as possible in that topic. A
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts : method with 2 files seems faster that method with 1 file
1) You have total control over which glyphs are included directly in the Flash IDE without having to use a 3rd party tool like SWFmill. Completly opposite on this. opposite to your opposite :) I wanted to embed all japanese characters of a font, how do you do this with swfmill? I don't want to define them all in the glyphs attribute, but i also don't want to embed the whole font. So my solution for this was: 1) embed the needed characters with Flash 2) decompile the generated swf with swfmill 3) changing the xml so it works as shared font library (adjusted the font name) 4) recompile with swfmill. Greets, Janosch erixtekila schrieb: The shared lib isn't loaded twice. You just have to wait for a delay frame, in order to use it. That's all. Actually I'm pretty sure it does load twice but I'd be glad to hear that I'm wrong. Let me show you what I mean. Good observation, but wrong tools, IMHO. I wouldn't want to rely too much on the bandwidth profiler to make good assumptions. But perhaps the behavior (that I have observed following your test) can perhaps only be for offline use ? Following your line, I've hosted Zarate's file on a web server. Requesting the files with firefox and livehttpheaders. That don't give the same results as yours. And I would preferably rely on those tools instead. Here are an output of the session : --- http://www.v-i-a.net/t/ GET /t/ HTTP/1.1 Host: www.v-i-a.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060603 Firefox/1.5.0.4 Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/ plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive HTTP/1.x 200 OK Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:33:40 GMT Server: Apache Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100 Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: text/html Content-Encoding: gzip Content-Length: 567 -- http://www.v-i-a.net/t/index.swf GET /t/index.swf HTTP/1.1 Host: www.v-i-a.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060603 Firefox/1.5.0.4 Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/ plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive Referer: http://www.v-i-a.net/t/ HTTP/1.x 200 OK Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:33:41 GMT Server: Apache Last-Modified: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:22:12 GMT Etag: 18a8b8e-37c-44b50594 Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 892 Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=99 Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: application/x-shockwave-flash -- http://www.v-i-a.net/favicon.ico GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1 Host: www.v-i-a.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060603 Firefox/1.5.0.4 Accept: image/png,*/*;q=0.5 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive HTTP/1.x 404 Not Found Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:33:41 GMT Server: Apache Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=97 Connection: Keep-Alive Transfer-Encoding: chunked Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 -- http://www.v-i-a.net/t/Quadaptor.swf GET /t/Quadaptor.swf HTTP/1.1 Host: www.v-i-a.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060603 Firefox/1.5.0.4 Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/ plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive HTTP/1.x 200 OK Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:33:41 GMT Server: Apache Last-Modified: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 13:48:40 GMT Etag: 18a8b8f-1b47-424ea2b8 Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 6983 Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=97 Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: application/x-shockwave-flash -- You'll notice that the shared font lib is requested only once. As to conclude that the loading appears twice offline and once online, I can't. On the topic of faux fonts, could you please send me (privatly) a swf containing fonts with the Ivan and Bernard technic. I'll try to figure what permit this behavior. Shouldn't be to hard. Perhaps a swfmill not yet implemented feature ? So that's why I was king of leaning forward the 2 SWF file per shared font methods used by Ivan and Bernard because even though there are 2 files instead of one by shared font: 1) You have total control over which glyphs are included directly
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts : method with 2 files seems faster that method with 1 file
1) You have total control over which glyphs are included directly in the Flash IDE without having to use a 3rd party tool like SWFmill. Completly opposite on this. opposite to your opposite :) I wanted to embed all japanese characters of a font, how do you do this with swfmill? I don't want to define them all in the glyphs attribute, but i also don't want to embed the whole font. So my solution for this was: 1) embed the needed characters with Flash 2) decompile the generated swf with swfmill 3) changing the xml so it works as shared font library (adjusted the font name) 4) recompile with swfmill. Simpler than that, omit the attribute glyph of the swfmill's font tag. Please refer to swfmill mailing-list for further discussions of that **genious** tool. Best. --- erixtekila http://blog.v-i-a.net/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts : method with 2 files seems faster that method with 1 file
Simpler than that, omit the attribute glyph of the swfmill's font tag. No, i already wrote, that i don't want to embed the whole font (this would result in +2MByte chinese characters) Greets, Janosch erixtekila schrieb: 1) You have total control over which glyphs are included directly in the Flash IDE without having to use a 3rd party tool like SWFmill. Completly opposite on this. opposite to your opposite :) I wanted to embed all japanese characters of a font, how do you do this with swfmill? I don't want to define them all in the glyphs attribute, but i also don't want to embed the whole font. So my solution for this was: 1) embed the needed characters with Flash 2) decompile the generated swf with swfmill 3) changing the xml so it works as shared font library (adjusted the font name) 4) recompile with swfmill. Simpler than that, omit the attribute glyph of the swfmill's font tag. Please refer to swfmill mailing-list for further discussions of that **genious** tool. Best. --- erixtekila http://blog.v-i-a.net/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts : method with 2 files seems faster that method with 1 file
Simpler than that, omit the attribute glyph of the swfmill's font tag. No, i already wrote, that i don't want to embed the whole font (this would result in +2MByte chinese characters) LOL, sorry I didn't read you before ! Best luck. --- erixtekila http://blog.v-i-a.net/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts : method with 2 files seems faster that method with 1 file
erixtekila wrote: 1- More control over which glyphs are included. You're right that it is possible to include only the required glyphs with swfmill. 2- Works with faux bold and faux italic. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a faux ? Fake Bold or Fake Italic, i.e. when the font itself doesn't include any italic or bold versions of the letters/glyphs. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts : method with 2 files seems faster that method with 1 file
2- Works with faux bold and faux italic. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a faux ? Fake Bold or Fake Italic, i.e. when the font itself doesn't include any italic or bold versions of the letters/glyphs. Won't the render be ugly ? Like device fonts No. Faux bold and faux italic are the equivalent of pressing the Bold and Italic buttons for a textfield in the Flash property inspector or applying myTextField.bold or myTextField.italic via actionscript. A lot of fonts do not have special versions of the font specifically for bold versions, italic versions and bold italic versions. So basically, if I take the font Arial (not the device font _sans) in a textfield and use myArialTextField.bold, I'm basically using faux bold. If instead I use Arial Bold which is a separate font, that's real bold. No faux fonts in one lib shared font technique. I wonder in the other btw. Well, from what I can see, using the 1 SWF file per shared font method, Flash only exports the complete font set (or only selected glyphs if you use SWFmill) and not the additional info (with the added file size) to render the font in faux bold, faux italic, or faux bold AND italic. That makes perfect sense. However, it means that you cannot use mySharedFontTextField.bold or mySharedFontTextField.italic when using the 1 SWF file per shared font method (the method developped by Zarate and you). So I guess that using this method, if you wanted a font to display normal and bold, you could only use a font that has a separate version of the font for bold (like Arial and Arial Bold, which are 2 separate font files) and include both fonts in the shared libraries. If you want to use some crazy font you founded on the Internet which has no bold or italic version, then I think there's no way you can make it bold since this method doesn't support faux bold or faux italic. The shared lib isn't loaded twice. You just have to wait for a delay frame, in order to use it. That's all. Actually I'm pretty sure it does load twice but I'd be glad to hear that I'm wrong. Let me show you what I mean. Download the zip file found on Zarate's website here : http://www.zarate.tv/articulos/shared_fonts/files/Zarate_Shared_Fonts.zip Unzip the files. There will be a couple of folders that show how to use the 1 SWF file per shared font method but the simplest example is in the folder called Sencillo. In that folder, open the file index.fla. This file USES the shared library. So now, export (CTRL+ENTER) the file index.fla in the Flash IDE, then make sure you can see the bandwith profiler (View Bandwidth Profiler) in the Flash debug player, set your download settings (View Download Settings) to 14.4K so you can really view what's going on and then start the process by clicking on simulate download (View Simulate Download). Now, closely monitor what's going on in the bandwidth profiler. If you look closely, you'll see that the SWF file that contains the shared font that is being loaded (the file is called quadaptor.swf) ... well it's actually being loaded twice. The file is only 7K but you can clearly see that the 7K get loaded twice (from 0% to 100% ... two times). So that's why I was king of leaning forward the 2 SWF file per shared font methods used by Ivan and Bernard because even though there are 2 files instead of one by shared font: 1) You have total control over which glyphs are included directly in the Flash IDE without having to use a 3rd party tool like SWFmill. 2) You CAN use faux bold, faux italic and faux bold italic provided that you included them (with the added file size of course). 3) The shared SWF file that gets loaded is only loaded once which is the way it should be. Once again, these are the conclusions I've come to after testing both methods so I would like to hear other's comments on this. If I'm wrong about something here, please let me know. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Shared fonts : method with 2 files seems faster that method with 1 file
I've been doing some testing with sharded fonts lately because they are a key part of a project I'm working on right now. So far, here's what I've learned by searching the FlashCoders archive and reading blog posts. Shared fonts are a mess to work with. But, as of Flash Player 6.0.65.0, it's not as bad as it was before because of the new multi-tier runtime shared libraries that were added to that release of the Flash player. Now, two similar but still somewhat different methods for using sharde fonts have evolved around thos new multi-tier shared libraries. Ivan Dembicky (http://www.sharedfonts.com/eng/) came up with a solution that use 2 SWF files per shared font. Bernard Visscher (http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/pipermail/flashcoders/2006-May/166619.html) crafted his own solution that also uses 2 SWF files per shared font based on Ivan's solution. Zarate (http://www.zarate.tv/articulos/shared_fonts/index.php) came up with a solution that use only 1 SWF file per shared font. Erixtekila (http://www.v-i-a.net/blog/archives/43.html) crafted his own solution that also uses only 1 SWF file per shared font based on Zarate's work. So after testing all 4 solutions that all these bright people came up with, here's the conclusion I've come to. The 1 SWF file per shared font methods are obviously less of a hassle since we only have 1 file instead of 2 per shared font. However, faux bold and faux italic can't be used and you can't select exactly the glyphs you want included and thoses that you do not want included. I think it's possible to select glyphs using Erixtekila's method which uses SWFmill. I don't know if his method makes it possible to use faux bold and faux italic though. The 2 SWF file per shared font methods initially seemed more work for nothing since it uses 2 SWF files instead of one per shared font but that will be the method I will be using from now on for the following reasons (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong): 1- More control over which glyphs are included. 2- Works with faux bold and faux italic. 3- This is the main reason why I'll use the 2 SWF method over the single SWF method... The 2 SWF methods loads a lot faster in the tests I did. With the one SWF method, the SWF is loaded (let's say it's 15kb) and then it seems to reload the 15kb before the shared font becomes available. But in the 2 SWF method, the SWF gets loaded immediately and the 15KB are only loaded once just before the shared font becomes available. Hope this will help others who are having trouble with shared fonts. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts : method with 2 files seems faster that method with 1 file
1- More control over which glyphs are included. You're right that it is possible to include only the required glyphs with swfmill. 2- Works with faux bold and faux italic. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a faux ? 3- This is the main reason why I'll use the 2 SWF method over the single SWF method... The 2 SWF methods loads a lot faster in the tests I did. With the one SWF method, the SWF is loaded (let's say it's 15kb) and then it seems to reload the 15kb before the shared font becomes available. But in the 2 SWF method, the SWF gets loaded immediately and the 15KB are only loaded once just before the shared font becomes available. The shared lib isn't loaded twice. You just have to wait for a delay frame, in order to use it. That's all. Thanks fro this interesting review. --- erixtekila http://blog.v-i-a.net/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Shared Fonts puzzle (hell)
I´ve been trying to find the holy grail of Shared Fonts but with no success.
I then decided I just wanted it to work.
I´ve have done this way:
- Packing all the fonts I´m using in my application in a separate SWF,
setting them to Export For Runtime Sharing and also to Export for AS.
- Loading this SWF in the app´s main prealoader in a hidden movieclip
offstage;
- In the subsequent loaded SWF´s that would use the fonts, I´ve added a
SharePoint on movieclip imported from the shared library in the first
frame.
- Created a TextFormat object for each of the font´s and applied it to the
TextFields.
However, I´ve found too many inconsistencies while I was implementing it.
I´ve found that I would have to set both a TextFormat object and also
setStyle('fontFamily','fontName'); setStyle('embedFonts',true) to the
TextField or otherwise it wouldn´t work. If I only set the TextFormat
object, it doesn´t work and if I only set the style, it doesn´t work
either... why!?
I´ve noted that sometimes the initial text is shown, but when I try to
modify it through code, it either doesn´t changes or goes blank.
In sum, I´ve been through a hard time trying to get this shared font thing
to work with TextFields. With v2 components I got it to work by setting it´s
style ( setStyle('fontFamily','fontName'); setStyle('embedFonts',true)) I
assume the v2 framework deals with the TextFormat issue, but with regular
TextFields... it´s a hell confusing...
I´m confused and I need some enlightment! Any help would be much
appreciated!
Marcelo.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Shared Fonts puzzle (hell)
Hello Marcelo, http://www.sharedfonts.com/eng/faq.html#include -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared Fonts puzzle (hell)
Hello Marcelo,
- you need to separate problems.
in first step don't use sharing.
when your app will work fine you can
start sharing your fonts.
MdMS In sum, I╢ve been through a hard time trying to get this shared font thing
MdMS to work with TextFields. With v2 components I got it to work by setting
it╢s
MdMS style ( setStyle('fontFamily','fontName'); setStyle('embedFonts',true))
I
MdMS assume the v2 framework deals with the TextFormat issue, but with regular
MdMS TextFields... it╢s a hell confusing...
--
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Re: [Flashcoders] Shared Fonts puzzle (hell)
Fonts and Flash on the Mac I am going nuts. Troublesome. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared Fonts puzzle (hell)
Thanks for the article Iv. I guess the way I´m doing is right as I don´t need this kind of control over what characters I would need to embbed. I´ll test when I get home, but I guess this issue is happening becouse I´m not setting the embedFonts property in the right place. On 7/5/06, Weyert de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fonts and Flash on the Mac I am going nuts. Troublesome. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared Fonts puzzle (hell)
The swf I´m loading is a v7 swf and the host is v8. Could that be causing some this issue? On 7/5/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the article Iv. I guess the way I´m doing is right as I don´t need this kind of control over what characters I would need to embbed. I´ll test when I get home, but I guess this issue is happening becouse I´m not setting the embedFonts property in the right place. On 7/5/06, Weyert de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fonts and Flash on the Mac I am going nuts. Troublesome. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re[2]: [Flashcoders] Shared Fonts puzzle (hell)
Hello Marcelo, MdMS The swf I╢m loading is a v7 swf and the host is v8. Could that be causing MdMS some this issue? http://www.sharedfonts.com/eng/faq.html - a bit info about it in the first question. -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re[2]: [Flashcoders] Shared Fonts puzzle (hell)
Hello Iv, thanks again for the reply. This article talks about version 7 loading v. 6. The host SWF is v8, the loaded one is v7, the library SWF is v8. But I think it´s the same situation after all. I will make some more tests later. Thanks, Marcelo. On 7/5/06, Iv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marcelo, MdMS The swf I╢m loading is a v7 swf and the host is v8. Could that be causing MdMS some this issue? http://www.sharedfonts.com/eng/faq.html - a bit info about it in the first question. -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re[2]: [Flashcoders] Shared Fonts puzzle (hell)
Hmmm.. further reading this faq, I´ve saw the question about the static text fields. I´m actually using some static textfields that use the same shared font, configured via the flash ide. The only difference is that I don´t use SFM, and the faq relates to SFM... Could that be causing these strange behvaiours when I try apply the TextFormat objetcts to the textifields and they just don´t work? I don´t have access to my source files here, I will test when I get home.. Cheers, Marcelo. On 7/5/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Iv, thanks again for the reply. This article talks about version 7 loading v. 6. The host SWF is v8, the loaded one is v7, the library SWF is v8. But I think it´s the same situation after all. I will make some more tests later. Thanks, Marcelo. On 7/5/06, Iv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marcelo, MdMS The swf I╢m loading is a v7 swf and the host is v8. Could that be causing MdMS some this issue? http://www.sharedfonts.com/eng/faq.html - a bit info about it in the first question. -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Shared Fonts issue... textformat object only works in dynamically created textfields!
I really need some quick help here as I need to deploy this app for tomorrow! I´m using Shared Fonts and loading the swf with the exported font symbols beforehand, in the main preloader. In the subsequent forms (swfs) I´m using the SharePoint strategy, where I put only a dummy MovieClip one frame before and so all the Shared Swf DOM becomes available for access through actionscript. I´ve succesfully set up the shared fonts using a textformat objects on **dynamically created textfields**, but it just doesn´t work when I try to set it in textfields that I´ve put on the stage through the flash ide... they just become blank, no text... I´m using the following code: tf = new TextField() tf.font = myfont mytextfield.setNewTextFormat(tf) Thanks in advance, -Marcelo. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared Fonts issue... textformat object only works in dynamically created textfields!
i assume you mean... tf = new TextFormat() tf.font = myfont mytextfield.setNewTextFormat(tf) Did you try using mytextfield.setTextFormat(tf) AFTER you change the text? On Jul 4, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: I really need some quick help here as I need to deploy this app for tomorrow! I´m using Shared Fonts and loading the swf with the exported font symbols beforehand, in the main preloader. In the subsequent forms (swfs) I ´m using the SharePoint strategy, where I put only a dummy MovieClip one frame before and so all the Shared Swf DOM becomes available for access through actionscript. I´ve succesfully set up the shared fonts using a textformat objects on **dynamically created textfields**, but it just doesn´t work when I try to set it in textfields that I´ve put on the stage through the flash ide... they just become blank, no text... I´m using the following code: tf = new TextField() tf.font = myfont mytextfield.setNewTextFormat(tf) Thanks in advance, -Marcelo. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared Fonts issue... textformat object only works in dynamically created textfields!
Oh yes sorry... my mistake. Yes, sure. I actually don´t touch the textfield´s text. On 7/4/06, Michael Bedar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i assume you mean... tf = new TextFormat() tf.font = myfont mytextfield.setNewTextFormat(tf) Did you try using mytextfield.setTextFormat(tf) AFTER you change the text? On Jul 4, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: I really need some quick help here as I need to deploy this app for tomorrow! I´m using Shared Fonts and loading the swf with the exported font symbols beforehand, in the main preloader. In the subsequent forms (swfs) I ´m using the SharePoint strategy, where I put only a dummy MovieClip one frame before and so all the Shared Swf DOM becomes available for access through actionscript. I´ve succesfully set up the shared fonts using a textformat objects on **dynamically created textfields**, but it just doesn´t work when I try to set it in textfields that I´ve put on the stage through the flash ide... they just become blank, no text... I´m using the following code: tf = new TextField() tf.font = myfont mytextfield.setNewTextFormat(tf) Thanks in advance, -Marcelo. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared Fonts issue... textformat object only works in dynamically created textfields!
By saying that I mean that it stays with the text I´ve set up in the flash ide... On 7/4/06, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yes sorry... my mistake. Yes, sure. I actually don´t touch the textfield´s text. On 7/4/06, Michael Bedar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i assume you mean... tf = new TextFormat() tf.font = myfont mytextfield.setNewTextFormat (tf) Did you try using mytextfield.setTextFormat(tf) AFTER you change the text? On Jul 4, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: I really need some quick help here as I need to deploy this app for tomorrow! I´m using Shared Fonts and loading the swf with the exported font symbols beforehand, in the main preloader. In the subsequent forms (swfs) I ´m using the SharePoint strategy, where I put only a dummy MovieClip one frame before and so all the Shared Swf DOM becomes available for access through actionscript. I´ve succesfully set up the shared fonts using a textformat objects on **dynamically created textfields**, but it just doesn´t work when I try to set it in textfields that I´ve put on the stage through the flash ide... they just become blank, no text... I´m using the following code: tf = new TextField() tf.font = myfont mytextfield.setNewTextFormat(tf) Thanks in advance, -Marcelo. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared Fonts issue... textformat object only works in dynamically created textfields!
well, in that case setNewTextFormat definitely won't work.. if a normal setTextFormat does not work, i'm out of ideas.. On Jul 4, 2006, at 9:28 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: Oh yes sorry... my mistake. Yes, sure. I actually don´t touch the textfield´s text. On 7/4/06, Michael Bedar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i assume you mean... tf = new TextFormat() tf.font = myfont mytextfield.setNewTextFormat(tf) Did you try using mytextfield.setTextFormat(tf) AFTER you change the text? On Jul 4, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: I really need some quick help here as I need to deploy this app for tomorrow! I´m using Shared Fonts and loading the swf with the exported font symbols beforehand, in the main preloader. In the subsequent forms (swfs) I ´m using the SharePoint strategy, where I put only a dummy MovieClip one frame before and so all the Shared Swf DOM becomes available for access through actionscript. I´ve succesfully set up the shared fonts using a textformat objects on **dynamically created textfields**, but it just doesn´t work when I try to set it in textfields that I´ve put on the stage through the flash ide... they just become blank, no text... I´m using the following code: tf = new TextField() tf.font = myfont mytextfield.setNewTextFormat(tf) Thanks in advance, -Marcelo. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re[6]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Hello Joeri, JvO We use font-family JvO terms like MainFont, or BoldFont, and when letting the FontLoader JvO parse the stylesheet, it replaces them with the actuall font name JvO loaded linked with that identifier... JvO So with just replacing the font libs, the entire site will have new fonts :). - yep. it is in recommendation section on my site. http://www.sharedfonts.com/eng/help.html#practice but not many peoples want read a rules :) -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
With bitmaps you could use the bitmapdata to draw it in another movie. Yes, but Flash 8 only. Beautiful solution anyhow. That's true, but it won't take long before FP8 is the way to go. Now about 80% of the users have FP8.. Bernard ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Zarate, The 'Shared Fonts' problem is very funny ... you have got people sticking to solutions that aren't :)) and it gets back in time ... like a cycle, with the same answers again ;) I REALLY don't know why your solution never was approved ... it is the best out there, the BEST it has been working for me in the biggest project of all my times (300 +classes) with a charm and yes it is better than sharedfonts.com or bernard's solution BECAUSE it only uses 1 (ONE!) SWF ... anyway, who thought we needed TWO swfs in order to share something ??? ;) Cedric I don´t think he means that... at doesn´t make any sense for me. By the way, if you want to avoid using two files per font, take a look to this (french): http://www.v-i-a.net/blog/archives/43.html I did myself almost 2 years ago some RD to use just one file (spanish): http://www.zarate.tv/articulos/shared_fonts/index.php AFAIK, I´m not violating any license or copyright :D Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Zarate, I don't know either ;) I think Ivan means the principle of my code and the priciple of the sharedfonts system They both use 2 swf's for loading the font. There can't be copyright on that, because that's the only way the flashplayer allows fonts to be dynamicaly loaded. And it's no secret code or something, just a player posibility.. Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Zárate Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 23:13 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hi, Which copyright problems are we talking about? Maybe I´m missing something here. Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I haven't had any difficulties.. And i've used it in many sites.. But if you say so ;) Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Iv Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 21:31 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hello Bernard, - and.. I'm sorry, but your code have imperfections. It's works, but you need support experiance with many languages and different situations for find a problems in your code. It's one more reason for use original solution. -- Ivan Dembicki __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Thanks Cedric :) However, I really don't care now which option is the best (but hey, thanks again :P), I just want to understand what Ivan means with: use solutions with dubious copyrights Seems a little bit of FUD, actually. It would be greatly appreciated further explanations. Cheers! On 5/30/06, Cedric Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zarate, The 'Shared Fonts' problem is very funny ... you have got people sticking to solutions that aren't :)) and it gets back in time ... like a cycle, with the same answers again ;) I REALLY don't know why your solution never was approved ... it is the best out there, the BEST it has been working for me in the biggest project of all my times (300 +classes) with a charm and yes it is better than sharedfonts.com or bernard's solution BECAUSE it only uses 1 (ONE!) SWF ... anyway, who thought we needed TWO swfs in order to share something ??? ;) Cedric I don´t think he means that... at doesn´t make any sense for me. By the way, if you want to avoid using two files per font, take a look to this (french): http://www.v-i-a.net/blog/archives/43.html I did myself almost 2 years ago some RD to use just one file (spanish): http://www.zarate.tv/articulos/shared_fonts/index.php AFAIK, I´m not violating any license or copyright :D Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Zarate, I don't know either ;) I think Ivan means the principle of my code and the priciple of the sharedfonts system They both use 2 swf's for loading the font. There can't be copyright on that, because that's the only way the flashplayer allows fonts to be dynamicaly loaded. And it's no secret code or something, just a player posibility.. Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Zárate Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 23:13 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hi, Which copyright problems are we talking about? Maybe I´m missing something here. Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I haven't had any difficulties.. And i've used it in many sites.. But if you say so ;) Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Iv Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 21:31 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hello Bernard, - and.. I'm sorry, but your code have imperfections. It's works, but you need support experiance with many languages and different situations for find a problems in your code. It's one more reason for use original solution. -- Ivan Dembicki __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig
Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
ok, maybe it is the not the *best*, but it is definitely the one which narrows down the problem to ONE swf ... of course, erixtekila's solution is in the same verve: yours is Flash IDE, his is Open Source cedric Thanks Cedric :) However, I really don't care now which option is the best (but hey, thanks again :P), I just want to understand what Ivan means with: use solutions with dubious copyrights Seems a little bit of FUD, actually. It would be greatly appreciated further explanations. Cheers! On 5/30/06, Cedric Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zarate, The 'Shared Fonts' problem is very funny ... you have got people sticking to solutions that aren't :)) and it gets back in time ... like a cycle, with the same answers again ;) I REALLY don't know why your solution never was approved ... it is the best out there, the BEST it has been working for me in the biggest project of all my times (300 +classes) with a charm and yes it is better than sharedfonts.com or bernard's solution BECAUSE it only uses 1 (ONE!) SWF ... anyway, who thought we needed TWO swfs in order to share something ??? ;) Cedric I don´t think he means that... at doesn´t make any sense for me. By the way, if you want to avoid using two files per font, take a look to this (french): http://www.v-i-a.net/blog/archives/43.html I did myself almost 2 years ago some RD to use just one file (spanish): http://www.zarate.tv/articulos/shared_fonts/index.php AFAIK, I´m not violating any license or copyright :D Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Zarate, I don't know either ;) I think Ivan means the principle of my code and the priciple of the sharedfonts system They both use 2 swf's for loading the font. There can't be copyright on that, because that's the only way the flashplayer allows fonts to be dynamicaly loaded. And it's no secret code or something, just a player posibility.. Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Zárate Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 23:13 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hi, Which copyright problems are we talking about? Maybe I´m missing something here. Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I haven't had any difficulties.. And i've used it in many sites.. But if you say so ;) Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Iv Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 21:31 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hello Bernard, - and.. I'm sorry, but your code have imperfections. It's works, but you need support experiance with many languages and different situations for find a problems in your code. It's one more reason for use original solution. -- Ivan Dembicki __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http
Re[6]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Hello Zбrate, Z I just want to understand what Ivan means with: Z use solutions with dubious copyrights - my congratulations. you have good and interesting solution. your OWN solution. Now I has seen it first time. I has experiments with self included libraries too but I used textfields for include fonts. Shared library mc was placed in second frame. In first frame I hase a code for avoid recursive shared libraries loading. In my case it was very difficult for understanding by users and hard for create and debug font libraries. I think you know and understand this problems very good. - In your articles I don't understand text, sorry, but I has found a link to sharedfonts.com and my name. Thank you. I'm glad if I made something for find you your solution. And again: it's your own solution. Thank you. -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
I agree that Zarates sollution with one swf is very nice! And will work in most cases. The only problem is that you are bound to the glyps Flash imports for a font-object. The workaround would be to create a swf with SWFMill so you can specify all glyps or use textfields then you can specify them yourself, but then you'll have to have two swf's. One for runtime export and one for runtime import, that's the case. Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Cedric Muller Verzonden: dinsdag 30 mei 2006 10:47 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts ok, maybe it is the not the *best*, but it is definitely the one which narrows down the problem to ONE swf ... of course, erixtekila's solution is in the same verve: yours is Flash IDE, his is Open Source cedric Thanks Cedric :) However, I really don't care now which option is the best (but hey, thanks again :P), I just want to understand what Ivan means with: use solutions with dubious copyrights Seems a little bit of FUD, actually. It would be greatly appreciated further explanations. Cheers! On 5/30/06, Cedric Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zarate, The 'Shared Fonts' problem is very funny ... you have got people sticking to solutions that aren't :)) and it gets back in time ... like a cycle, with the same answers again ;) I REALLY don't know why your solution never was approved ... it is the best out there, the BEST it has been working for me in the biggest project of all my times (300 +classes) with a charm and yes it is better than sharedfonts.com or bernard's solution BECAUSE it only uses 1 (ONE!) SWF ... anyway, who thought we needed TWO swfs in order to share something ??? ;) Cedric I don´t think he means that... at doesn´t make any sense for me. By the way, if you want to avoid using two files per font, take a look to this (french): http://www.v-i-a.net/blog/archives/43.html I did myself almost 2 years ago some RD to use just one file (spanish): http://www.zarate.tv/articulos/shared_fonts/index.php AFAIK, I´m not violating any license or copyright :D Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Zarate, I don't know either ;) I think Ivan means the principle of my code and the priciple of the sharedfonts system They both use 2 swf's for loading the font. There can't be copyright on that, because that's the only way the flashplayer allows fonts to be dynamicaly loaded. And it's no secret code or something, just a player posibility.. Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Zárate Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 23:13 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hi, Which copyright problems are we talking about? Maybe I´m missing something here. Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I haven't had any difficulties.. And i've used it in many sites.. But if you say so ;) Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Iv Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 21:31 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hello Bernard, - and.. I'm sorry, but your code have imperfections. It's works, but you need support experiance with many languages and different situations for find a problems in your code. It's one more reason for use original solution. -- Ivan Dembicki __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your
Re: Re[6]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Hi Ivan, Your name and link to the Shared Font Manager are there because I looked at them before developing my own method. I thought (and still think) I should thank everyone that had tried to solve the problem before. What we use to know as previous work. Having said that, I really think you do not have any kind of copyright over the two-files-per-font approach. I mean, you're absolutely free to do/sell whatever you want (really happy to know you are still making money from it), but, IMHO, you cannot blame someone else for using a similar approach to solve the same problem. I cannot blame someone using my one-file-per-font approach as well. Cheers, On 5/30/06, Iv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Zбrate, Z I just want to understand what Ivan means with: Z use solutions with dubious copyrights - my congratulations. you have good and interesting solution. your OWN solution. Now I has seen it first time. I has experiments with self included libraries too but I used textfields for include fonts. Shared library mc was placed in second frame. In first frame I hase a code for avoid recursive shared libraries loading. In my case it was very difficult for understanding by users and hard for create and debug font libraries. I think you know and understand this problems very good. - In your articles I don't understand text, sorry, but I has found a link to sharedfonts.com and my name. Thank you. I'm glad if I made something for find you your solution. And again: it's your own solution. Thank you. -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re[8]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Hello Zбrate, Z you cannot blame someone else for using a similar approach to solve Z the same problem. - similar and the same - is different things. Z I cannot blame someone using my one-file-per-font approach as well. - now yes. because you share it. But if you has invest a money to your own unique solution based on your discoveries I think you can expect from community respect for your interests. -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
I agree that Zarates sollution with one swf is very nice! And will work in most cases. The only problem is that you are bound to the glyps Flash imports for a font-object. is this the only case ? The workaround would be to create a swf with SWFMill so you can specify all glyps or use textfields then you can specify them yourself, but then you'll have to have two swf's. One for runtime export and one for runtime import, that's the case. actually, you can, SWFmill and more: http://www.v-i-a.net/blog/archives/43.html http://www.deja-vue.net/blog/2006/05/26/as2-sharedfonts-datagrid- example-the-last-stand/#more-42 Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Cedric Muller Verzonden: dinsdag 30 mei 2006 10:47 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts ok, maybe it is the not the *best*, but it is definitely the one which narrows down the problem to ONE swf ... of course, erixtekila's solution is in the same verve: yours is Flash IDE, his is Open Source cedric Thanks Cedric :) However, I really don't care now which option is the best (but hey, thanks again :P), I just want to understand what Ivan means with: use solutions with dubious copyrights Seems a little bit of FUD, actually. It would be greatly appreciated further explanations. Cheers! On 5/30/06, Cedric Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zarate, The 'Shared Fonts' problem is very funny ... you have got people sticking to solutions that aren't :)) and it gets back in time ... like a cycle, with the same answers again ;) I REALLY don't know why your solution never was approved ... it is the best out there, the BEST it has been working for me in the biggest project of all my times (300 +classes) with a charm and yes it is better than sharedfonts.com or bernard's solution BECAUSE it only uses 1 (ONE!) SWF ... anyway, who thought we needed TWO swfs in order to share something ??? ;) Cedric I don´t think he means that... at doesn´t make any sense for me. By the way, if you want to avoid using two files per font, take a look to this (french): http://www.v-i-a.net/blog/archives/43.html I did myself almost 2 years ago some RD to use just one file (spanish): http://www.zarate.tv/articulos/shared_fonts/index.php AFAIK, I´m not violating any license or copyright :D Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Zarate, I don't know either ;) I think Ivan means the principle of my code and the priciple of the sharedfonts system They both use 2 swf's for loading the font. There can't be copyright on that, because that's the only way the flashplayer allows fonts to be dynamicaly loaded. And it's no secret code or something, just a player posibility.. Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Zárate Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 23:13 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hi, Which copyright problems are we talking about? Maybe I´m missing something here. Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I haven't had any difficulties.. And i've used it in many sites.. But if you say so ;) Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Iv Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 21:31 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hello Bernard, - and.. I'm sorry, but your code have imperfections. It's works, but you need support experiance with many languages and different situations for find a problems in your code. It's one more reason for use original solution. -- Ivan Dembicki __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
The workaround would be to create a swf with SWFMill so you can specify all glyps or use textfields then you can specify them yourself, but then you'll have to have two swf's. One for runtime export and one for runtime import, that's the case. actually, you can, SWFmill and more: http://www.v-i-a.net/blog/archives/43.html http://www.deja-vue.net/blog/2006/05/26/as2-sharedfonts-datagrid- example-the-last-stand/#more-42 I'll try to take time to translate my article soon. BTW, Mike's one is pretty good also. There is no revolution in this, just a trick. I think that since multi-tiers shared libraries was available (Flash 6, I presume), we were able to use a single swf that contains shared font glyphs. Only RD permitted to find the way. So kuddos to the pionneers : lv and zarate. Let's sum up a little : There are two solutions that use the same trick. The trick is to create a swf that referenced itself has a shared lib (importing AND exporting its own assets) After, you need to be sure to load that swf and wait for a frame in order to be able to use the glyphs. Unfortunatly, it seems that Flash 8 ide doesn't accept to link a swf to itself anymore. swfmill is really a good tool to do whatever you want (good swf knowledge needed) Last thing to note. In order to use shared fonts compiled for swf8, be sure to use the last snapshot of swfmill (unreleased til now) : http://iterative.org/swfmill/pre/ To end the discussion, I wasn't able to use the same trick for other types of assets (bitmap or vectors). If any pionneers feels the need to investigate further… --- erixtekila http://blog.v-i-a.net/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
To end the discussion, I wasn't able to use the same trick for other types of assets (bitmap or vectors). If any pionneers feels the need to investigate further… I have used the same technique for sharing AS2 classes ... never tried with bitmaps or vectors though cedric___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
To end the discussion, I wasn't able to use the same trick
for other
types of assets (bitmap or vectors).
If any pionneers feels the need to investigate further.
I have used the same technique for sharing AS2 classes ... never
tried with bitmaps or vectors though
With bitmaps you could use the bitmapdata to draw it in another movie.
Lets say you have a movieclip which holds a logo (library name:
companyLogo).
In that movieclip, you'll have to have something like this as code:
import flash.display.*;
function attachMe(target:MovieClip, objectName:String){
var t:MovieClip =
attachMovie(objectName,image,target.getNextHighestDepth(),{_x:5000,_y:5000
});
var b:BitmapData = new BitmapData(t._width,
t._height,false,0x00);
b.draw(t);
t.unloadMovie();
target.attachBitmap(b,target.getNextHighestDepth());
delete b;
}
Now from another movie you load the holder (lets say holder.swf)
And you can call: holder.attachMe(__myTargetClip,companyLogo);
Bernard
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Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
With bitmaps you could use the bitmapdata to draw it in another movie. Yes, but Flash 8 only. Beautiful solution anyhow… --- erixtekila http://blog.v-i-a.net/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Hi all, Last weeks/months I see more and more questions about shared fonts. I've used the following for about a year now and it works for me. The basic is the same as sharedfonts (2 swf's to load the fonts), I'm sorry for all the people behind sharedfonts for this. Example: http://www.debit.nl/flashcoders/fonts/ FontLoader.as : http://www.debit.nl/flashcoders/FontLoader.txt Source of the example: http://www.debit.nl/flashcoders/FontLoader.zip Good luck with the code. Bernard ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Hello Bernard, - thank you! BV Last weeks/months I see more and more questions about shared fonts. BV I've used the following for about a year now and it works for me. BV The basic is the same as sharedfonts (2 swf's to load the fonts), I'm sorry BV for all the people behind sharedfonts for this. BV Example: http://www.debit.nl/flashcoders/fonts/ BV FontLoader.as : http://www.debit.nl/flashcoders/FontLoader.txt BV Source of the example: http://www.debit.nl/flashcoders/FontLoader.zip BV Good luck with the code. BV Bernard BV ___ BV Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com BV To change your subscription options or search the archive: BV http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders BV Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software BV Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training BV http://www.figleaf.com BV http://training.figleaf.com -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re[2]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Hello Bernard, - really it isn't a problem: SFM work principles was published many times but sales not stopped yet. Trere are many companies and peoples which can't allow himself to use solutions with dubious copyrights. Of course many companies and peoples don't think about it. In any case it isn't my clients. Also SFM is free for web site developers and if developer can't add SFM to project budget for client he can receive it free from me. I understand situation: I'm developer too. I hope my english is understandable, good luck! BV I believe we had the discussion about this more than a year ago ;) BV You know the code is different from the sahredfonts code and there is no AS BV involved in the lib's BV I'm sorry.. -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: Re[2]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Hi Ivan, - really it isn't a problem: SFM work principles was published many times but sales not stopped yet. Glad to hear it.. I really mean it! It's a good thing people can get money for their knowledge. Trere are many companies and peoples which can't allow himself to use solutions with dubious copyrights. Well, dubious copyrights aren't an issue with this code. The basic maybe the same as shared fonts, but so are linux and windows.. They both use the x86 architecture ;) Of course many companies and peoples don't think about it. In any case it isn't my clients. Also SFM is free for web site developers and if developer can't add SFM to project budget for client he can receive it free from me. I understand situation: I'm developer too. Ivan.. Maybe you can update SFM, feel free to use this code. In my opinion SFM is too old and can't be successfully used in an FAME (or other) enviroment. I hope my english is understandable, I hope mine is too ;) good luck! You too! Greetz, Bernard ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Hello Bernard, BV In my opinion SFM is too old and can't be successfully used in BV an FAME (or other) enviroment. - SFM is AS2 class compatible for the most hard parser settings in FDT. But for licensed users only :) -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Hello Bernard, - and.. I'm sorry, but your code have imperfections. It's works, but you need support experiance with many languages and different situations for find a problems in your code. It's one more reason for use original solution. -- Ivan Dembicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Well, I haven't had any difficulties.. And i've used it in many sites.. But if you say so ;) Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Iv Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 21:31 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hello Bernard, - and.. I'm sorry, but your code have imperfections. It's works, but you need support experiance with many languages and different situations for find a problems in your code. It's one more reason for use original solution. -- Ivan Dembicki __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Hi, Which copyright problems are we talking about? Maybe I´m missing something here. Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I haven't had any difficulties.. And i've used it in many sites.. But if you say so ;) Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Iv Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 21:31 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hello Bernard, - and.. I'm sorry, but your code have imperfections. It's works, but you need support experiance with many languages and different situations for find a problems in your code. It's one more reason for use original solution. -- Ivan Dembicki __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
Hi Zarate, I don't know either ;) I think Ivan means the principle of my code and the priciple of the sharedfonts system They both use 2 swf's for loading the font. There can't be copyright on that, because that's the only way the flashplayer allows fonts to be dynamicaly loaded. And it's no secret code or something, just a player posibility.. Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Zárate Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 23:13 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hi, Which copyright problems are we talking about? Maybe I´m missing something here. Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I haven't had any difficulties.. And i've used it in many sites.. But if you say so ;) Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Iv Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 21:31 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hello Bernard, - and.. I'm sorry, but your code have imperfections. It's works, but you need support experiance with many languages and different situations for find a problems in your code. It's one more reason for use original solution. -- Ivan Dembicki __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts
I don´t think he means that... at doesn´t make any sense for me. By the way, if you want to avoid using two files per font, take a look to this (french): http://www.v-i-a.net/blog/archives/43.html I did myself almost 2 years ago some RD to use just one file (spanish): http://www.zarate.tv/articulos/shared_fonts/index.php AFAIK, I´m not violating any license or copyright :D Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Zarate, I don't know either ;) I think Ivan means the principle of my code and the priciple of the sharedfonts system They both use 2 swf's for loading the font. There can't be copyright on that, because that's the only way the flashplayer allows fonts to be dynamicaly loaded. And it's no secret code or something, just a player posibility.. Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Zárate Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 23:13 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hi, Which copyright problems are we talking about? Maybe I´m missing something here. Cheers, On 5/29/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I haven't had any difficulties.. And i've used it in many sites.. But if you say so ;) Bernard -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Iv Verzonden: maandag 29 mei 2006 21:31 Aan: Flashcoders mailing list Onderwerp: Re[4]: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts Hello Bernard, - and.. I'm sorry, but your code have imperfections. It's works, but you need support experiance with many languages and different situations for find a problems in your code. It's one more reason for use original solution. -- Ivan Dembicki __ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.design.ru ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Zárate ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts issue
I load 12 shared fonts in a different swf's separately. I have tested the application in a different pc. The player version is 8. I think the problem is when I load the swf's in one movie , his content needs to redistribute it to the others movies(similar to use any Macromedia component). I put a real example: My swf movie that contains the shared fonts is loaded in a content of other movie. This movie also is loaded in my main movie with another loadMovie. The real situation is that my shared fonts movie is loaded in the third level of my main application( after 2 loadMovies), so I think that when I load the fonts, they need to do a copy of the library on his father movie, so, for this reason, the shared fonts are temporally located in the 3 library movies. Is it true? How you will do this? Best regards, David. Marcelo de Moraes Serpa escribió: Hello David, How many fonts in the shared library swf? Maybe the player version, pc specs and browser would also be good for us to try to help you. - Marcelo. On 5/24/06, David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I have a big problem with shared fonts. I am doing an editor that has a list of fonts to choose. This fonts are dynamically loaded from a swf with his embed font. When I try to load 10 fonts in a movieclip, with his preload for each one, the application runs well, but if I load this movie from my main movie, via loadMovie, my application turns very slowly. In my main I haven't any shared font. Any clue? David. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts issue
What about loading those fonts into the main movie? I did it on my flash site and it worked just fine. -- Anggie Bratadinata Web|Graphic|Flash Jl. Raya Langsep 21 Malang - East Java I N D O N E S I A http://design.ibshastautama.com David Serrano wrote: I load 12 shared fonts in a different swf's separately. I have tested the application in a different pc. The player version is 8. I think the problem is when I load the swf's in one movie , his content needs to redistribute it to the others movies(similar to use any Macromedia component). I put a real example: My swf movie that contains the shared fonts is loaded in a content of other movie. This movie also is loaded in my main movie with another loadMovie. The real situation is that my shared fonts movie is loaded in the third level of my main application( after 2 loadMovies), so I think that when I load the fonts, they need to do a copy of the library on his father movie, so, for this reason, the shared fonts are temporally located in the 3 library movies. Is it true? How you will do this? Best regards, David. Marcelo de Moraes Serpa escribió: Hello David, How many fonts in the shared library swf? Maybe the player version, pc specs and browser would also be good for us to try to help you. - Marcelo. On 5/24/06, David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I have a big problem with shared fonts. I am doing an editor that has a list of fonts to choose. This fonts are dynamically loaded from a swf with his embed font. When I try to load 10 fonts in a movieclip, with his preload for each one, the application runs well, but if I load this movie from my main movie, via loadMovie, my application turns very slowly. In my main I haven't any shared font. Any clue? David. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Shared fonts issue
Hello. I have a big problem with shared fonts. I am doing an editor that has a list of fonts to choose. This fonts are dynamically loaded from a swf with his embed font. When I try to load 10 fonts in a movieclip, with his preload for each one, the application runs well, but if I load this movie from my main movie, via loadMovie, my application turns very slowly. In my main I haven't any shared font. Any clue? David. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts issue
Hello David, How many fonts in the shared library swf? Maybe the player version, pc specs and browser would also be good for us to try to help you. - Marcelo. On 5/24/06, David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I have a big problem with shared fonts. I am doing an editor that has a list of fonts to choose. This fonts are dynamically loaded from a swf with his embed font. When I try to load 10 fonts in a movieclip, with his preload for each one, the application runs well, but if I load this movie from my main movie, via loadMovie, my application turns very slowly. In my main I haven't any shared font. Any clue? David. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Shared fonts nightmare
Hey guyz, I'm working on this project that has a shared library with some movieclips and fonts... It are those fonts that cause quite a bit of stress... The designer on this project is on a PC and I work on a Mac... Not that that should matter but I'm taking a wild guess this is the problem... The situation... Both his PC and my Mac have all the fonts... Same TTF files. However, if I use the shared fonts in the swf on the server, they come out looking like this: http://webkitchen.be/ downloads/sharedfonts.png Not really what was intended... If I make that library again, and use my shared lib instead of the one on the server, the text comes out right but is shifted down by quite a few pixels causing the design to be screwed up... So yeah... Should we just drop the shared fonts and thereby add a some 50k to each swf? Or is there something we may not have thought about? Thanks for your help, Serge ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts nightmare
i never worked with shared fonts but maybe this could help you: http://www.sharedfonts.com e Am 28.04.2006 um 09:44 schrieb Serge Jespers: Hey guyz, I'm working on this project that has a shared library with some movieclips and fonts... It are those fonts that cause quite a bit of stress... The designer on this project is on a PC and I work on a Mac... Not that that should matter but I'm taking a wild guess this is the problem... The situation... Both his PC and my Mac have all the fonts... Same TTF files. However, if I use the shared fonts in the swf on the server, they come out looking like this: http://webkitchen.be/ downloads/sharedfonts.png Not really what was intended... If I make that library again, and use my shared lib instead of the one on the server, the text comes out right but is shifted down by quite a few pixels causing the design to be screwed up... So yeah... Should we just drop the shared fonts and thereby add a some 50k to each swf? Or is there something we may not have thought about? Thanks for your help, Serge ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com plugisto ... eugen pflüger alexanderstr. 109 70180 stuttgart fon +49.711.6739797 mobil +49.177.6428272 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... http://www.plugisto.net http://itself.pmalc.de http://www.lifeperformance.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts nightmare
I'm working on this project that has a shared library with some movieclips and fonts... It are those fonts that cause quite a bit of stress... The designer on this project is on a PC and I work on a Mac... Not that that should matter but I'm taking a wild guess this is the problem... The situation... Both his PC and my Mac have all the fonts... Same TTF files. However, if I use the shared fonts in the swf on the server, they come out looking like this: http://webkitchen.be/ downloads/sharedfonts.png Not really what was intended... It looks like you're dealing with the same problem I've been struggling with recently. It's all about code pages. Windows and Macs have different ways of translating text info into characters. The lower-end characters (those in the ASCII range from 0-127) are the same. The higher end ones (in the ANSI range 128-255) are different. You can see them in these tables: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_Roman, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1252 (These are for English-language OS's; for other languages the encodings are different again). There are a number of ways to deal with this. One is simply to switch to Unicode. Unicode is cross-platform and will work in any language. If you can't use Unicode for some reason, you have two options: either create two fonts, one for the Mac and one for Windows (possibly more if you need to deal with multiple regions), or do what I did, which is to run a translation function to change your text from one code page to the other (eg, running myText.split(String.fromCharCode(128)).join(String.fromCharCode(219)) will swap a Windows Euro symbol with a Mac Euro symbol). This isn't going to solve your problem in a general sense, and it will only work for those characters that are represented in both code pages, but if you have some control over which characters you will be using, it will do the job. Best Danny ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts nightmare
I just posted something similar a few days ago. To take care of the font shifting you can make sure to publish the files with the fonts on the system they were designed on. So for example if you did the design on the pc, then the swf and the shared lib with the fonts should also be published on the pc. If you did the design on the mac, then the final output should also be on the mac. I suppose you could end up with a problem where some files were designed on the mac, and some on then pc, in this case you may never be able to get them to line up right all the time using the same publishing computer - so you could do a comprimise by making sure all PC designed flas are finally published on a PC and use a PC fonts shared lib, while all the Mac designed flas are published on the Mac, and use a Mac fonts shared lib. It's suboptimal, but it's better than 50K on every file. By the way I have no experience with fonts in shared libraries, so while conceptually this solution should work, it might be overkill, since just making sure to publish the final swf on the platform they were layed out in, might fix the problem. In our environment, I do programming on the PC, and the designers do layout on the Mac, so after they do the layout, I have to program it, then send it back to them for final output to get the fonts to line up. I'm not sure how to work in the shared font libs, but I would bet that using two different libs (one PC and one Mac) would fix it. Kevin N. Serge Jespers wrote: Hey guyz, I'm working on this project that has a shared library with some movieclips and fonts... It are those fonts that cause quite a bit of stress... The designer on this project is on a PC and I work on a Mac... Not that that should matter but I'm taking a wild guess this is the problem... The situation... Both his PC and my Mac have all the fonts... Same TTF files. However, if I use the shared fonts in the swf on the server, they come out looking like this: http://webkitchen.be/downloads/sharedfonts.png Not really what was intended... If I make that library again, and use my shared lib instead of the one on the server, the text comes out right but is shifted down by quite a few pixels causing the design to be screwed up... So yeah... Should we just drop the shared fonts and thereby add a some 50k to each swf? Or is there something we may not have thought about? Thanks for your help, Serge ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts nightmare
Nice idea. You think just one shared library would work? Since the problem is that each platform renders the same font differently, the presentation needs to be compiled in the same platform it was designed in, but the source should have no effect on the presentation; atleast none that pertain from the compiler. This approach is analogous to how the same font on both platforms render differently. If the process of embeding the font is the source of the problem, it can be determined by observing the effects of not embeding the culprit font, however, I'm under the impression that this occurs at author time. If it's the case, then you would have to seperate the libraries. I had this problem when I was freelancing with a company that had mac users, and if my memory is right, then the fonts were shifted at author time. Just tossing in my 2 cents =] M. On 4/28/06, Kevin Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted something similar a few days ago. To take care of the font shifting you can make sure to publish the files with the fonts on the system they were designed on. So for example if you did the design on the pc, then the swf and the shared lib with the fonts should also be published on the pc. If you did the design on the mac, then the final output should also be on the mac. I suppose you could end up with a problem where some files were designed on the mac, and some on then pc, in this case you may never be able to get them to line up right all the time using the same publishing computer - so you could do a comprimise by making sure all PC designed flas are finally published on a PC and use a PC fonts shared lib, while all the Mac designed flas are published on the Mac, and use a Mac fonts shared lib. It's suboptimal, but it's better than 50K on every file. By the way I have no experience with fonts in shared libraries, so while conceptually this solution should work, it might be overkill, since just making sure to publish the final swf on the platform they were layed out in, might fix the problem. In our environment, I do programming on the PC, and the designers do layout on the Mac, so after they do the layout, I have to program it, then send it back to them for final output to get the fonts to line up. I'm not sure how to work in the shared font libs, but I would bet that using two different libs (one PC and one Mac) would fix it. Kevin N. Serge Jespers wrote: Hey guyz, I'm working on this project that has a shared library with some movieclips and fonts... It are those fonts that cause quite a bit of stress... The designer on this project is on a PC and I work on a Mac... Not that that should matter but I'm taking a wild guess this is the problem... The situation... Both his PC and my Mac have all the fonts... Same TTF files. However, if I use the shared fonts in the swf on the server, they come out looking like this: http://webkitchen.be/downloads/sharedfonts.png Not really what was intended... If I make that library again, and use my shared lib instead of the one on the server, the text comes out right but is shifted down by quite a few pixels causing the design to be screwed up... So yeah... Should we just drop the shared fonts and thereby add a some 50k to each swf? Or is there something we may not have thought about? Thanks for your help, Serge ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Shared fonts nightmare
That's even better then. :-) I actually don't know where the problem is, with embedding or with authoring - but as you said, it should be easy to figure it out, and if it's embedding that's the problem, then the workaround is pretty easy too (using two different external libs for the fonts - 1 PC, and 1 Mac). Kevin N. elibol wrote: Nice idea. You think just one shared library would work? Since the problem is that each platform renders the same font differently, the presentation needs to be compiled in the same platform it was designed in, but the source should have no effect on the presentation; atleast none that pertain from the compiler. This approach is analogous to how the same font on both platforms render differently. If the process of embeding the font is the source of the problem, it can be determined by observing the effects of not embeding the culprit font, however, I'm under the impression that this occurs at author time. If it's the case, then you would have to seperate the libraries. I had this problem when I was freelancing with a company that had mac users, and if my memory is right, then the fonts were shifted at author time. Just tossing in my 2 cents =] M. On 4/28/06, Kevin Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted something similar a few days ago. To take care of the font shifting you can make sure to publish the files with the fonts on the system they were designed on. So for example if you did the design on the pc, then the swf and the shared lib with the fonts should also be published on the pc. If you did the design on the mac, then the final output should also be on the mac. I suppose you could end up with a problem where some files were designed on the mac, and some on then pc, in this case you may never be able to get them to line up right all the time using the same publishing computer - so you could do a comprimise by making sure all PC designed flas are finally published on a PC and use a PC fonts shared lib, while all the Mac designed flas are published on the Mac, and use a Mac fonts shared lib. It's suboptimal, but it's better than 50K on every file. By the way I have no experience with fonts in shared libraries, so while conceptually this solution should work, it might be overkill, since just making sure to publish the final swf on the platform they were layed out in, might fix the problem. In our environment, I do programming on the PC, and the designers do layout on the Mac, so after they do the layout, I have to program it, then send it back to them for final output to get the fonts to line up. I'm not sure how to work in the shared font libs, but I would bet that using two different libs (one PC and one Mac) would fix it. Kevin N. Serge Jespers wrote: Hey guyz, I'm working on this project that has a shared library with some movieclips and fonts... It are those fonts that cause quite a bit of stress... The designer on this project is on a PC and I work on a Mac... Not that that should matter but I'm taking a wild guess this is the problem... The situation... Both his PC and my Mac have all the fonts... Same TTF files. However, if I use the shared fonts in the swf on the server, they come out looking like this: http://webkitchen.be/downloads/sharedfonts.png Not really what was intended... If I make that library again, and use my shared lib instead of the one on the server, the text comes out right but is shifted down by quite a few pixels causing the design to be screwed up... So yeah... Should we just drop the shared fonts and thereby add a some 50k to each swf? Or is there something we may not have thought about? Thanks for your help, Serge ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] shared Fonts
I'd like to be able to make a component that uses a custom made font. If I make a Font Symbol with linkage and export, technically any developer who installs my component should have that font available (working in the component), correct? e.d. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] shared Fonts
poop. On 11/11/05, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, that's just a pointer to the font. You actually have to have the font on your machine for it to compile it into the SWF. You can, however, compile the font into a SWF, and distribute the SWF, but it won't work unless you have an instance of it in _level0, thus the only way realistically is to use something like SWFMill to exract it (if it can do that). ... or distribute the font. - Original Message - From: eric dolecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] shared Fonts I'd like to be able to make a component that uses a custom made font. If I make a Font Symbol with linkage and export, technically any developer who installs my component should have that font available (working in the component), correct? e.d. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
