Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Sound System redux
Hi Erik, Did you know that the sound system eats up to 30% of CPU time, depending on hardware? This even with --disable-sound on the command line. That's OpenAL version specific. Mine is twice as fast with 256 voices but 3.5 times more efficient with less than 32 voices. Ooops, I have to admit that I am a OpenAL newbie. Do I have to use a different set of shared libs? Are these soundcard/codec specfic? Where should I get alternative implementations from? I thought there are only specific implementations for high-end hardware. My findings are that 30% of total fgfs CPU time on the eee was spend in in routines resampling audio, regardless if --disable-sound was set or not. (Later I found out that --disable-sound does not disable the sound at all: It only mutes sound.) IMHO this is an undesirable overhead even if resampling would be 3.5 times faster. I would have expected the top one performance bottleneck for fgfs on low end hardware is in graphics, not sound. Greetings Olaf -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hardware bottleneck for building scenery
Hi Cullam, Curtis Olson wrote: Just a real quick reply here ... there is some code setup so the process will kill itself if it runs longer than some period or consumes too much memory. This was setup because some data cases would blow up and lead to infinite loops and infinite memory expansion (within some of our external libraries.) You may want to eliminate this code or expand the thresholds. I ran into the same issue when building my France scenery. The code that Curt mentioned is in terragear-cs/src/BuildTiles/Main/main.cxx, search for setrlimit and modify the maximum CPU time allowed to the process. As a less hackish solution, you might want to try the client-server architecture of terragear which doesn't run into this problem (a new process is respawned for each tile). A basic how-to can be found in section 4 of this page: http://www.terragear.org/docs/scenery-tutorial/fg-scenery-tutorial.html The client/server architecture brings you the additional benefit that you can get a speed-up on multicore machines by running one client per CPU core. hope this helps Maxime -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Source code control systems
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Alex Perry alex.pe...@ieee.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Tom P zomm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I've tried to push a Mercurial test repository (FlightGear converted from CVS) to code.google.com for a few hours, without success. It aborts regularly with the following message: searching for changes abort: error: Connection timed out After digging a bit, it looks like I stumbled on a known issue.. ooops!! http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=2716 Could you put the exact repository you're trying to push somewhere where I can get at it? Feel free to try sending a tarball to me directly by email on the off chance it fits through the gateways. The exact tarball Tom sent over uploaded fine for me over home broadband: http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=2716#c22 Therefore, in addition to the bitbucket repository Tom mentioned below, we also have: hg clone https://possible-little-test.googlecode.com/hg FlightGear-0.9 Both seem to work for me, so it'd probably be a good idea to do the Mercurial client tool usability testing against both repositories in case there is a difference we care about. So, next I tried on bitbucket.org, which is the mainstream Hg hosting site, and gladly it worked as expected. The complete FlightGear repo got pushed in 11minutes, and for your reference, is available here: http://bitbucket.org/tomp/fg-test/ The only thing that I don't like about bitbucket.org is that repositories are not organized by project, like on gitorious.org, but only per person. It makes sense for an anarchic... err, deeply distributed development model, but could get confusing quickly if we want to stick to a semi-centralized one. I don't think that's a factor for people trying out the client side tools for Hg to see whether they suitably usable. What now? I'll try to break TortoiseGit on the Windows side of things. Somehow I'm not convinced that Qt would use Git if it was so broken on Windows, but it's just me. Have fun! Tom On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Erik Hofman e...@ehofman.com wrote: Olaf Flebbe wrote: Windows Implementations: git can be tedious to use on Windows: I had big problems working on a project mixing up git repositories on linux pushed and pulled by a windows git via samba. git at some point complained about non existing differences: Somehow line ending issues emerged, or the object store got corrupted. I had no chance to look deeper into details. The stable git command on Windows needs cygwin, which is not a minimal invasive installation. (I wouldn't recommend the msys/mingw installation at this point.) The hg (mercurial) Implementation of Windows is very lean, because no POSIX emulation layer is needed. I (luckily?) had no problems with respect to line endings with hg. This alone leaves me to rethink about git in favor of hg. Either are fine with me in the end but I would hate to lose Windows developers over this. Erik -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] FGRun enhancement suggestion...
Hi Rob I've created a patch that enables AI models by default if multiplayer is configured. It's committed in a test repository for FGRun, and available here: http://gitorious.org/fgrun/fgrun/commit/9c9fe3a4d991a5a6972119792099aa1976e832df.diff Will route to Fred as soon as I hear back. Tom On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Rob Shearman, Jr. rmsj...@yahoo.comwrote: Hello again -- Multiple times in the recent history, new users and veteran users alike have had issues logging on to the MP server, and as it turns out the error has been caused by the fact that they were registered on MP but did not have AI Models enabled. Is there a way to make FGRun automatically check the AI Models box if the Multiplayer box is ticked? Might save a lot of new people some grief. Just a suggestion! Cheers, -R. (MD-Terp) Robert M. Shearman, Jr. Transit Operations Supervisor, University of Maryland Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend: Lelystad, November 7, and 8, 2008
Hi Durk and everyone that still knows me! Long time no talk ;-). I have been very busy working on Battle of Britain, actually we just shipped a new patch a few days ago. Sorry I didnt keep in touch. I see quite a few names on the list from back then (Curt, Eric, Martin, Mathias etc). Glad to see you guys in here :-). I will try to attend FS Weekend as a visitor, it would be great meeting you again! BTW - tomorrow is a flightsim exhibition in Paderborn, Germany: http://www.fskonferenz.de/ I guess noone from this newsgroup will attend? Bye bye, Wolfram -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models
Hi, On Thursday 17 September 2009 17:58:47 Durk Talsma wrote: Just to add two cents: I've seen more or less similar behavior in recent versions of FlightGear, but only in cases where two or more AIAircraft got on top of each other for one reason or the other (i.e. at airports with no or insufficient parking. Each successive call to getGroundElevation would put the lowest aircraft on top of the other, and slowly the pairs/triplets/whatever would climb up in the air. Interestingly, a recent update to the heading calculation library functions inadvertently broke the distance keeping code, and made aircraft deliberately taxi on top of each other. Combined with the ground elevation problem, this gave some pretty spaced out visuals ... :-) The distance keeping code is fixed now, except for a (hopefully) minor problem with the distance to user controlled aircraft, which is still on my TODO list. IIRC, I ran flightgear with the EHAM scenery last week, and didn't notice anything unusual. Unfortunately, I'm extremely busy right now, so I can't be of much help at the moment, but I might have a look at EHAM as well as EGNM, just to see whether I can replicate the problem. Ok, that pretty much matches my expectations of the behavior of the code. Each aircraft does not see itself, but any other aircraft. Hmm, ok. Durk, any chance to fix that problem at its root - that is have only one aircraft at one point or do we need anything that works around that problem? Greetings Mathias -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Total_Air_Temp
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 14:03 -0700, castle wrote: Hi, Can anyone point me to where Total_Air_Temperature (tat) is calculated. If it's a JSBsim aircraft; /fdm/jsbsim/propulsion/tat-c I'm not sure of yasim, anyone else? Scott. Tried grepping on several variations of the term but only found an initialization of the value to zero in fdm/flight? Or is it even being calculated? Thanks John -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Sound System redux
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Olaf Flebbe f...@oflebbe.de wrote: Hi Erik, Did you know that the sound system eats up to 30% of CPU time, depending on hardware? This even with --disable-sound on the command line. That's OpenAL version specific. Mine is twice as fast with 256 voices but 3.5 times more efficient with less than 32 voices. Ooops, I have to admit that I am a OpenAL newbie. Do I have to use a different set of shared libs? Are these soundcard/codec specfic? Where should I get alternative implementations from? I thought there are only specific implementations for high-end hardware. On Linux you should use OpenAL-Soft (which is used by Ubuntu), Creative Labs was/is developing their own driver for their cards, but I can't speak about their status since I don't know anyone using it or interested in doing so. OpenAL-Soft is a software-only implementation, which of course means there are a few features it doesn't implement, none of which are used by fgfs, I think. My findings are that 30% of total fgfs CPU time on the eee was spend in in routines resampling audio, regardless if --disable-sound was set or not. (Later I found out that --disable-sound does not disable the sound at all: It only mutes sound.) IMHO this is an undesirable overhead even if resampling would be 3.5 times faster. I would have expected the top one performance bottleneck for fgfs on low end hardware is in graphics, not sound. This is almost certainly a bug in fgfs or PulseAudio. Cheers, Matt D. -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Total_Air_Temp
Hi, Can anyone point me to where Total_Air_Temperature (tat) is calculated. Tried grepping on several variations of the term but only found an initialization of the value to zero in fdm/flight? Or is it even being calculated? Thanks John -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] FGRun enhancement suggestion...
Hi Gijs A patch fixing the issue is available here: http://gitorious.org/fgrun/fgrun/commit/7355fbfd41d2cc411d1e449aa7eceaa480aeb935.patch Again, hope this will be picked up in the next FGrun release. Regards, Tom On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Gijs de Rooy gijsr...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Sounds like a good improvement Rob! To add *another suggestion* (I doubt if you, Fred (or aren't you the author of FGRun?, ever received my earlier email...). The Random Vegation/Trees function doesn't work well. If you disable the feature, the /sim/rendering/random-vegetation property is set to false. But if you enable the vegetation, nothing happens at all. The property isn't set to true, so after you've set it to false once will be disabled for ever! Lots of people really missed an awesome feature! It should not be too hard to solve, just make the tickbox set the property to true when enabled ;) And thanks a lot for offering this wonderfull piece of work! Gijs -- Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:37:47 -0700 From: rmsj...@yahoo.com To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Flightgear-devel] FGRun enhancement suggestion... Hello again -- Multiple times in the recent history, new users and veteran users alike have had issues logging on to the MP server, and as it turns out the error has been caused by the fact that they were registered on MP but did not have AI Models enabled. Is there a way to make FGRun automatically check the AI Models box if the Multiplayer box is ticked? Might save a lot of new people some grief. Just a suggestion! Cheers, -R. (MD-Terp) Robert M. Shearman, Jr. Transit Operations Supervisor, University of Maryland Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu -- Alle tips en trics. Ontdek nu de nieuwe Windows Livehttp://www.microsoft.com/netherlands/windowslive/Views/tipsItemDetail.aspx -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another FlightGear Package for Sale: Illegal?
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:33:37 +0200, Durk wrote in message 200909260733.37841.d.tal...@xs4all.nl: On Friday 25 September 2009 08:20:40 pm Martin Spott wrote: Alan Teeder wrote: How about naming and shaming all of these profiteers on the main website, warning newcomers that they can get an up to date version for free (and contribute should they wish). This idea is to my liking :-) Martin. I actually fully agree. I think it would be a nice idea to have a feature article that lists all the names of the rip off products and points out in a professional manner that these products are simply rip off from FlightGear. Likewise, I would also propose another idea that we talked about before: How about adding a note that is written to the splash screen saying something like: Welcome to FlightGear: Please visit www.flightgear.org for additional downloads. Painting this onto the individual screens would not be very effective, because I suspect that even mr. Charlie Taylor would be capable of changing that. However, if this text were generated by a C++ function, ..why stop there? Make it _hard_. ;o) and painted onto the splash screen, it would at require at least some effort and skill to conceal the fact that FlightProSim (or whatever cheesy names they come up with) is in fact flightgear. ..maybe a few pointed words of wisdom on piracy, too? ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FSWeekend: Lelystad, November 7, and 8, 2008
Hi Wolfram, Wolfram Kuss wrote: BTW - tomorrow is a flightsim exhibition in Paderborn, Germany: http://www.fskonferenz.de/ I guess noone from this newsgroup will attend? I had planned to run a FlightGear booth last year on their event, but unfortunately they asked more money for a small table plus limited !! power distribution on a single day than I typically spend for the entire week at LinuxTag in Berlin. Finally I got the impression that this conference is primarily targeted at serving as a platform for commercial developers to present their products. Yet I'd be really happy to learn more about this event, please tell me/us about it. Cheers, Martin - looking forward to meet you in Lelystad. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Sound System redux
Matias D'Ambrosio wrote: This is almost certainly a bug in fgfs or PulseAudio. Yeah, no use in hunting this down until I've got the new sound system ready. Erik -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] FGRun enhancement suggestion...
Hi Tom, Tom P wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.netwrote: I know that this is a valid fix, if I sounded like I was dismissing it, my apologies. For the sake of completeness, I've tried your suggestion, and yes, FG works as expected. :-) I'm glad to know ! I've probably spent months of my life just for the simple task of fixing incorrect resolver/hosts configurations while searching for the cause of networking software not working as advertised. Therefore I might be a bit sensitive when it comes to acknowleding incorrect (others would probably call them buggy) configurations as being standard And in fact, if my machine was on a static IP, I'd consider changing the /etc/hosts without a second thought. But with DHCP, I don't see a clean solution, other than writing a script to update the /etc/hosts every time a new address is leased. Well, distributors are shipping scripts to update the IP address on the interface, to update the 'resolv.conf', maybe other things as well, probably even to update the NTP client config. Why the heck should they not add a function to update the 'hosts' in a proper way. I know, it's not your fault, but still very annoying, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Source code control systems
Hi, I do not have write permissions to any of the hg or git reprositories... So I can only check repositories out, which works flawless with git and hg, no surprise. BUT: * Both the hg https://possible-little-test.googlecode.com/hg and the gitorious repositories have corrupted the VC90 Project files. They should to be CR LF terminated files as they are in the CVS. (For instance projects/VC90/FlightGear.sln: A double click does only work with CR LF endings). * The real thing would be FlightGear data! Greetings, Olaf -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Source code control systems
On Saturday 26 September 2009 21:50:30 Olaf Flebbe wrote: * The real thing would be FlightGear data! I'm sure I'm not the only person who has been happily using the mapserver git repo for FG data for quite some time now (on Linux)... Cheers, AJ -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Source code control systems
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Olaf Flebbe f...@oflebbe.de wrote: I do not have write permissions to any of the hg or git reprositories... Yeah. I don't think there is a way I can find out everybody's google accounts from their email traffic. To try to speed this up, I've put up a quick web form: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDZYb1RvYkpVRWhST2hhVFltWDQxNnc6MA But, if you prefer, feel free to just email me or Tom directly. * Both the hg https://possible-little-test.googlecode.com/hg and the gitorious repositories have corrupted the VC90 Project files. They should to be CR LF terminated files as they are in the CVS. (For instance projects/VC90/FlightGear.sln: A double click does only work with CR LF endings). If the repositories are wrong in exactly the same way, that likely means Tom made a mistake during the conversion step because I just uploaded his repository. Perhaps you could work with him to figure out what it was? We can reload the Code test repository (don't know about the Bitbucket one) as soon as we've got a fix. * The real thing would be FlightGear data! Yes. Let us figure out how to get binary data into Hg correctly first ... Greetings, Olaf -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
