Re: Apply Default Attribute Values

[Shlomo Perets]

A quick note related to previous posts in this thread: EDDs support the 
specification of a default value for attributes declared as optional, but 
not for attributes declared as required.



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Re: Apply Default Attribute Values

[Lynne A. Price]

At 01:25 AM 12/19/2005, Shlomo Perets wrote:
A quick note related to previous posts in this thread: EDDs support the 
specification of a default value for attributes declared as optional, but 
not for attributes declared as required.


Shlomo,
  Of course--having a default contradicts requiring a value to be specified!

  I don't know if my previous message on this thread made it through, but 
FM's notion of attribute default values came directly from SGML/XML.

--Lynne


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RE: Copying master page layouts and graphics

[Lester C. Smalley]

You're right, of course, that there is a function that let's one apply
specific master pages based on content, which I did forget about in my
reply to Stacie.  I meant simply that it was not automatic upon the
importation of the page layouts.  Thanks for the extended clarification.

On Saturday, December 17, 2005 07:19 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
 
| On 12/16/05, Lester C. Smalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
|  But what is not happening is having the specific first page
|  applied to the individual chapters. I don't think this is possible 
|  automatically without some sort of scripting tool (e.g. FrameScript 
|  under windows or AppleScript on a Mac) but it is very easy.
| 
| Well, actually it is. If you had set the rules in the 
| reference pages to apply master page First (or whatever 
| name you may have given it) to e. g. the Chapter Title 
| paragraph tag, updating the book has an option to Apply 
| master pages. With that option checked, and the master pages 
| and reference pages imported as previously described by 
| Lester and Art, the master page First will indeed be 
| applied to each chapter.
| 
| You can also go to each chapter and go to Format  Page Layout 
|  Apply Master Pages (I think I have this right, writing this 
| from Linux, I don't have FrameMaker open), and it will work 
| the same way, but only on the current file. It is all in the 
| Reference Page.
| 
| Actually, if you haven't yet done this with the first file, 
| importing formats including reference pages will do nothing 
| for you but copy the master page First to the other files 
| (along with all other things selected and in place), so you 
| should really start by your first chapter (or any otherwise 
| ready chapter) and:
| 
| Format  Page Layout  Apply Master Pages. This will prompt 
| you with a message saying that no reference page exists for 
| applying master pages, but one will be made (if you go 
| through with this). Do that.
| 
| Then go to the reference pages (View  Reference Pages) and 
| you will find this as the last reference page. Do the changes 
| there according to the FrameMaker 7.0, The Complete 
| Reference (which is probably the book you are mentioning as 
| Complete Reference) or the User Guide, setting the Master 
| Page First to the paragraph format tag that you are using for 
| the chapter title. Then, do the Format  Page Layout  Apply 
| master pages again, and you will find that the fist page has
| changed.
| 
| Then you can select all but the first chapter file in the 
| book file and import to these the formats again, but the only 
| part that needs to be checked now is Reference pages. This 
| should do the trick.
| 
| Just check this out. Good luck.
| 
| Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
| Iceland
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RE: Character Catalog Doesn't Display

[DeFlorio, Dominick]

You may have inadvertently moved the catalog off the screen.  Try
looking for a tail-tail somewhere on your screen. 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
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Has anyone had this problem?  Help!  I click my Character Catalog icon
and ZERO happens.  I get my paragraph catalog, my tools pallet...
everything but the character catalog.

I have no hair left. :(

Thanks for your kind assistance.

Joy

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RE: Character Catalog Doesn't Display

[DeFlorio, Dominick]

tell-tail 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
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Subject: RE: Character Catalog Doesn't Display

You may have inadvertently moved the catalog off the screen.  Try
looking for a tail-tail somewhere on your screen. 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
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Has anyone had this problem?  Help!  I click my Character Catalog icon
and ZERO happens.  I get my paragraph catalog, my tools pallet...
everything but the character catalog.

I have no hair left. :(

Thanks for your kind assistance.

Joy

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RE: Character Catalog Doesn't Display

[Spreadbury, David]

Joy,
If you are running on Windows XP there is a second maker.ini file that
contains the coordinates of various dialogs. Take a look in C:\Documents
and Settings\user name\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0. In the
.ini file look for CCatalog=1063, 410, 130, 354. These were the last
coordicates of the character catalog. Change the coordinates to
something like 307, 158, 130, 354 and you should see it again.

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Has anyone had this problem?  Help!  I click my Character Catalog icon
and ZERO happens.  I get my paragraph catalog, my tools pallet...
everything but the character catalog.

I have no hair left. :(

Thanks for your kind assistance.

Joy

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Re: Character Catalog Doesn't Display

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:07:56 -0800 (PST), Joy O 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone had this problem?  Help!  I click my
Character Catalog icon and ZERO happens.  I get my
paragraph catalog, my tools pallet... everything but
the character catalog.

It *is* possible to move it off-screen so far that 
you can't grab it any more.  In that case, it's 
gone forever.  ;-0  Just kidding!  It doesn't
have to be a bad hair day...  ;-)

With Frame closed, open maker.ini (or fmsgml.ini
if you use FM+SGML 6 or earlier) in the Frame
home directory with a text editor like Notepad.
Find the CCatalog entry under [DialogLayout],
and edit the first two numbers to be 0, 0.
That's the screen position, and will put the
catalog in the top left corner; you can then
move it to wherever you really want it.  Make 
sure the last two numbers are *not* 0; they
are the width and height, 130, 180 is good.
So you might wind up with:

[DialogLayout]
;- Dialog  Window layout -
MakerWin=3, -1, -1, -1, -1, 0, 0, 640, 400
PCatalog=500, 40, 130, 180
CCatalog=0, 0, 130, 180
 ...

HTH!

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Re: Character Catalog Doesn't Display

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:08:55 -0600, Spreadbury, David 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If you are running on Windows XP there is a second maker.ini file that
contains the coordinates of various dialogs. Take a look in C:\Documents
and Settings\user name\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0.

Actually it's also there for Win 2K Pro.  The last element is
7.1 on my system.  The second copy (which overrides the one in
the Frame home directory) started appearing with Frame 7.0.
I always forget about it... thanks, David!

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INTERNAL ERROR message

[Murray Moore]

I can not open a nine-chapter book.

I respond to the unavailable fonts warning by clicking the OK button.

I respond to the Looking for [missing screen shot] by updating the Document to 
Use New Path.

When I click Continue, I see an INTERNAL ERROR message.

Similarly, when I choose Skip This File, and when I choose Ignore All Missing 
Files, I also see the same INTERNAL ERROR message.

I am using FrameMaker  SGML Version 6.0p357, XP Pro 2002 SP 2.

The problem is unique to this book

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga Ontario Canada
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Unresolved cross-references and missing graphics

[Julie Leake]

FrameMaker 7.0p579 - Windows XP

When I open certain docs I get a message that there are unresolved 
cross-references, however, when I do a search for unresolved 
cross-references it says None found. I have all conditions turned 
on...nothing is hidden. I have a similar problem on another doc. When 
opening it says there is a missing graphic. I tell it to skip that 
graphic and when I look through the document I can't find any gray boxes 
indicating a missing graphic. I have looked at the Reference pages and 
can't find anything. Can anyone tell me how to find these elusive 
missing pieces?


Thanks!
Julie
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RE: Unresolved cross-references and missing graphics

[DeFlorio, Dominick]

Try viewing the master page for each file in the book and then search
for the unresolved x-ref. 




Dominick A. DeFlorio
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FrameMaker 7.0p579 - Windows XP

When I open certain docs I get a message that there are unresolved
cross-references, however, when I do a search for unresolved
cross-references it says None found. I have all conditions turned
on...nothing is hidden. I have a similar problem on another doc. When
opening it says there is a missing graphic. I tell it to skip that
graphic and when I look through the document I can't find any gray boxes
indicating a missing graphic. I have looked at the Reference pages and
can't find anything. Can anyone tell me how to find these elusive
missing pieces?

Thanks!
Julie
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RE: INTERNAL ERROR message

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Murray,
You appear to be the victim of an old and well documented bug. You need to
download a patch at the following address.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1425


Berny Gagne 
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Husky Injection Molding systems Ltd
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 


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Subject: INTERNAL ERROR message

I can not open a nine-chapter book.

I respond to the unavailable fonts warning by clicking the OK button.

I respond to the Looking for [missing screen shot] by updating the Document
to Use New Path.

When I click Continue, I see an INTERNAL ERROR message.

Similarly, when I choose Skip This File, and when I choose Ignore All
Missing Files, I also see the same INTERNAL ERROR message.

I am using FrameMaker  SGML Version 6.0p357, XP Pro 2002 SP 2.

The problem is unique to this book

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga Ontario Canada
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Re: OT: Orphans and Widows (which is which)

[Dave Brown]

In case it helps anyone remember (it helped me), Robert Bringhurst (in 
The Elements of Typographic Style) says:
Orphans have no past, but they do have a future (and need not trouble 
the typographer).

Widows have a past, but no future (and need an extra line for company).

Regards,
Dave Brown d:¬)»

(PS - apologies if this ends up as a duplicate post - this is my third 
attempt, and hopefully I've addressed it right this time)


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RE: Unresolved cross-references and missing graphics

[Linda G. Gallagher]

Julie,

This is what I call phantom unresolved cross references, a phenomenon that
I believe started with version 6. I've been able to get rid of these
phantoms by opening the file that is reported as having one or more
unresolved xrefs, saving the file as .mif, opening the .mif file, and saving
it back as .fm (overwriting the old file).

In some circumstances, which I've admittedly not delved into deeply, this
happen regularly. I think that conditions have something to do with it.

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FrameMaker 7.0p579 - Windows XP

When I open certain docs I get a message that there are unresolved
cross-references, however, when I do a search for unresolved
cross-references it says None found. I have all conditions turned
on...nothing is hidden. I have a similar problem on another doc. When
opening it says there is a missing graphic. I tell it to skip that
graphic and when I look through the document I can't find any gray boxes
indicating a missing graphic. I have looked at the Reference pages and
can't find anything. Can anyone tell me how to find these elusive
missing pieces?

Thanks!
Julie
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Re: Unresolved cross-references and missing graphics

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:53:43 -0700, Linda G. Gallagher 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is what I call phantom unresolved cross references, a phenomenon that
I believe started with version 6. I've been able to get rid of these
phantoms by opening the file that is reported as having one or more
unresolved xrefs, saving the file as .mif, opening the .mif file, and saving
it back as .fm (overwriting the old file).

We've made that process a *lot* easier with the latest Mif2Go
upgrade, 44.  We added an item to the File menu, Wash via MIF,
which does just what you want... without disturbing any other
MIF file you might have present.  It will also wash a whole
book in one shot, including the .book file itself.  And it's
really fast, a few seconds tops for most files.

It works fine from the demo version of Mif2Go, and we approve 
of commercial use of this feature with the demo, so it costs 
nothing to add it to your toolkit.  Download and install the 
(unlimited) demo from:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

We're going to add more free goodies like this (and runfm.exe)
regularly.  It's not just for the season.  ;-)

In some circumstances, which I've admittedly not delved into deeply, this
happen regularly. I think that conditions have something to do with it.

IIRC, when Frame checks cross-references, it checks them all,
including those in hidden conditional text.  But if the xref
source is hidden, it reports the xref as unresolved.  It's 
best to use Show All when checking (or rechecking) xrefs.


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Those old book numbering blues

[hedley.fin...@myob.com]

Steve:

> >Then set your chapter title numbering as follows:
> >
> >Chapter\ <$chapnum>< >< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>
> >
> >The < > placeholder after <$chapnum> is the one you want to continue
> >through the book. The < =0> resetters are for the numbering you
> >want to restart for each chapter, e.g. figure, table, equation
> >numbering, etc.  Is this what you want?
> 
> I'm not sure. How would this reset named numbering threads, such as
> 'T:<$chapnum>.'?

With this scheme, you don't need numbering flows, e.g.
  Chaps Whatever  Sects  Figs   Tables  Eqns   Steps 
Substeps
 Chapter\ <$chapnum>< >   < =0>  < =0>  < =0>   < =0>  < =0>  < 
=0>

See the section "Using counters in autonumber formats" in the "Text 
formatting" chapter of the User Guide.

Regards,
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Apply Default Attribute Values

[Shlomo Perets]

A quick note related to previous posts in this thread: EDDs support the 
specification of a default value for attributes declared as optional, but 
not for attributes declared as required.


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Copying master page layouts and graphics

[Lester C. Smalley]

You're right, of course, that there is a function that let's one apply
specific master pages based on content, which I did forget about in my
reply to Stacie.  I meant simply that it was not automatic upon the
importation of the page layouts.  Thanks for the extended clarification.

On Saturday, December 17, 2005 07:19 PM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:

| On 12/16/05, Lester C. Smalley  wrote:
...
| > But what is not happening is having the specific "first" page
| > applied to the individual chapters. I don't think this is possible 
| > automatically without some sort of scripting tool (e.g. FrameScript 
| > under windows or AppleScript on a Mac) but it is very easy.
| 
| Well, actually it is. If you had set the rules in the 
| reference pages to apply master page "First" (or whatever 
| name you may have given it) to e. g. the Chapter Title 
| paragraph tag, updating the book has an option to "Apply 
| master pages". With that option checked, and the master pages 
| and reference pages imported as previously described by 
| Lester and Art, the master page "First" will indeed be 
| applied to each chapter.
| 
| You can also go to each chapter and go to Format > Page Layout 
| > Apply Master Pages (I think I have this right, writing this 
| from Linux, I don't have FrameMaker open), and it will work 
| the same way, but only on the current file. It is all in the 
| Reference Page.
| 
| Actually, if you haven't yet done this with the first file, 
| importing formats including reference pages will do nothing 
| for you but copy the master page "First" to the other files 
| (along with all other things selected and in place), so you 
| should really start by your first chapter (or any otherwise 
| ready chapter) and:
| 
| Format > Page Layout > Apply Master Pages. This will prompt 
| you with a message saying that no reference page exists for 
| applying master pages, but one will be made (if you go 
| through with this). Do that.
| 
| Then go to the reference pages (View > Reference Pages) and 
| you will find this as the last reference page. Do the changes 
| there according to the "FrameMaker 7.0, The Complete 
| Reference" (which is probably the book you are mentioning as 
| "Complete Reference") or the User Guide, setting the Master 
| Page First to the paragraph format tag that you are using for 
| the chapter title. Then, do the Format > Page Layout > Apply 
| master pages again, and you will find that the fist page has
| changed.
| 
| Then you can select all but the first chapter file in the 
| book file and import to these the formats again, but the only 
| part that needs to be checked now is Reference pages. This 
| should do the trick.
| 
| Just check this out. Good luck.
| 
| Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
| Iceland


- Lester 
---
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---

Character Catalog Doesn't Display

[Joy O]

Has anyone had this problem?  Help!  I click my
Character Catalog icon and ZERO happens.  I get my
paragraph catalog, my tools pallet... everything but
the character catalog.

I have no hair left. :(

Thanks for your kind assistance.

Joy

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Character Catalog Doesn't Display

[DeFlorio, Dominick]

"tell-tail" 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
From:
framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:01 PM
To: Joy O; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Character Catalog Doesn't Display

You may have inadvertently moved the catalog off the screen.  Try
looking for a tail-tail somewhere on your screen. 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of Joy O
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 1:08 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Character Catalog Doesn't Display

Has anyone had this problem?  Help!  I click my Character Catalog icon
and ZERO happens.  I get my paragraph catalog, my tools pallet...
everything but the character catalog.

I have no hair left. :(

Thanks for your kind assistance.

Joy

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Character Catalog Doesn't Display

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:07:56 -0800 (PST), Joy O 
 wrote:

>Has anyone had this problem?  Help!  I click my
>Character Catalog icon and ZERO happens.  I get my
>paragraph catalog, my tools pallet... everything but
>the character catalog.

It *is* possible to move it off-screen so far that 
you can't grab it any more.  In that case, it's 
gone forever.  ;-0  Just kidding!  It doesn't
have to be a bad hair day...  ;-)

With Frame closed, open maker.ini (or fmsgml.ini
if you use FM+SGML 6 or earlier) in the Frame
home directory with a text editor like Notepad.
Find the "CCatalog" entry under [DialogLayout],
and edit the first two numbers to be "0, 0".
That's the screen position, and will put the
catalog in the top left corner; you can then
move it to wherever you really want it.  Make 
sure the last two numbers are *not* 0; they
are the width and height, "130, 180" is good.
So you might wind up with:

[DialogLayout]
;- Dialog & Window layout -
MakerWin=3, -1, -1, -1, -1, 0, 0, 640, 400
PCatalog=500, 40, 130, 180
CCatalog=0, 0, 130, 180
 ...

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Character Catalog Doesn't Display

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:08:55 -0600, "Spreadbury, David" 
 wrote:

>If you are running on Windows XP there is a second maker.ini file that
>contains the coordinates of various dialogs. Take a look in C:\Documents
>and Settings\\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0.

Actually it's also there for Win 2K Pro.  The last element is
7.1 on my system.  The second copy (which overrides the one in
the Frame home directory) started appearing with Frame 7.0.
I always forget about it... thanks, David!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

INTERNAL ERROR message

[Murray Moore]

I can not open a nine-chapter book.

I respond to the unavailable fonts warning by clicking the OK button.

I respond to the Looking for [missing screen shot] by updating the Document to 
Use New Path.

When I click Continue, I see an INTERNAL ERROR message.

Similarly, when I choose Skip This File, and when I choose Ignore All Missing 
Files, I also see the same INTERNAL ERROR message.

I am using FrameMaker & SGML Version 6.0p357, XP Pro 2002 SP 2.

The problem is unique to this book

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga Ontario Canada

Unresolved cross-references and missing graphics

[Julie Leake]

FrameMaker 7.0p579 - Windows XP

When I open certain docs I get a message that there are unresolved 
cross-references, however, when I do a search for unresolved 
cross-references it says "None found." I have all conditions turned 
on...nothing is hidden. I have a similar problem on another doc. When 
opening it says there is a missing graphic. I tell it to skip that 
graphic and when I look through the document I can't find any gray boxes 
indicating a missing graphic. I have looked at the Reference pages and 
can't find anything. Can anyone tell me how to find these elusive 
missing pieces?

Thanks!
Julie

Unresolved cross-references and missing graphics

[DeFlorio, Dominick]

Try viewing the master page for each file in the book and then search
for the unresolved x-ref. 




Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


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From:
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[mailto:framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of Julie Leake
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:14 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Unresolved cross-references and missing graphics

FrameMaker 7.0p579 - Windows XP

When I open certain docs I get a message that there are unresolved
cross-references, however, when I do a search for unresolved
cross-references it says "None found." I have all conditions turned
on...nothing is hidden. I have a similar problem on another doc. When
opening it says there is a missing graphic. I tell it to skip that
graphic and when I look through the document I can't find any gray boxes
indicating a missing graphic. I have looked at the Reference pages and
can't find anything. Can anyone tell me how to find these elusive
missing pieces?

Thanks!
Julie
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INTERNAL ERROR message

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Murray,
You appear to be the victim of an old and well documented bug. You need to
download a patch at the following address.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1425


Berny Gagne 
Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding systems Ltd
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 


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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Murray Moore
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:04 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: INTERNAL ERROR message

I can not open a nine-chapter book.

I respond to the unavailable fonts warning by clicking the OK button.

I respond to the Looking for [missing screen shot] by updating the Document
to Use New Path.

When I click Continue, I see an INTERNAL ERROR message.

Similarly, when I choose Skip This File, and when I choose Ignore All
Missing Files, I also see the same INTERNAL ERROR message.

I am using FrameMaker & SGML Version 6.0p357, XP Pro 2002 SP 2.

The problem is unique to this book

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga Ontario Canada

Unresolved cross-references and missing graphics

[Linda G. Gallagher]

Julie,

This is what I call "phantom unresolved cross references," a phenomenon that
I believe started with version 6. I've been able to get rid of these
phantoms by opening the file that is reported as having one or more
unresolved xrefs, saving the file as .mif, opening the .mif file, and saving
it back as .fm (overwriting the old file).

In some circumstances, which I've admittedly not delved into deeply, this
happen regularly. I think that conditions have something to do with it.

~~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
Intelligent technical communication since 1993
Technical writing, help development,
FrameMaker and WebWorks Publisher conversions
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~~
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Behalf Of Julie Leake
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 1:14 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Unresolved cross-references and missing graphics


FrameMaker 7.0p579 - Windows XP

When I open certain docs I get a message that there are unresolved
cross-references, however, when I do a search for unresolved
cross-references it says "None found." I have all conditions turned
on...nothing is hidden. I have a similar problem on another doc. When
opening it says there is a missing graphic. I tell it to skip that
graphic and when I look through the document I can't find any gray boxes
indicating a missing graphic. I have looked at the Reference pages and
can't find anything. Can anyone tell me how to find these elusive
missing pieces?

Thanks!
Julie
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Unresolved cross-references and missing graphics

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:53:43 -0700, "Linda G. Gallagher" 
 wrote:

>This is what I call "phantom unresolved cross references," a phenomenon that
>I believe started with version 6. I've been able to get rid of these
>phantoms by opening the file that is reported as having one or more
>unresolved xrefs, saving the file as .mif, opening the .mif file, and saving
>it back as .fm (overwriting the old file).

We've made that process a *lot* easier with the latest Mif2Go
upgrade, 44.  We added an item to the File menu, "Wash via MIF",
which does just what you want... without disturbing any other
MIF file you might have present.  It will also "wash" a whole
book in one shot, including the .book file itself.  And it's
really fast, a few seconds tops for most files.

It works fine from the demo version of Mif2Go, and we approve 
of commercial use of this feature with the demo, so it costs 
nothing to add it to your toolkit.  Download and install the 
(unlimited) demo from:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

We're going to add more free goodies like this (and runfm.exe)
regularly.  It's not just for the season.  ;-)

>In some circumstances, which I've admittedly not delved into deeply, this
>happen regularly. I think that conditions have something to do with it.

IIRC, when Frame checks cross-references, it checks them all,
including those in hidden conditional text.  But if the xref
source is hidden, it reports the xref as unresolved.  It's 
best to use Show All when checking (or rechecking) xrefs.


-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Finding Conditional NON-text

[Lin Surasky]

Hi all-

Is there a way to include non-text items in a search for condition tags?


I know how to locate text that has certain conditions applied to it, but
what about doing a search for table cells or anchored frames that have a
condition applied? Does the text inside the table cell(s) have to be
conditional, or is there another way to do this?

Thanks
-Lin

Lin Surasky
Technical Writer
Retalix USA (Tucson)
www.retalix.com
520-298-7757 x3109

Apply Default Attribute Values

[Daniel Emory]

--- "Lynne A. Price"  wrote:
> Shlomo,
>Of course--having a default contradicts requiring
> a value to be specified!
=
I stated:
"If such an attribute is declared to be "REQUIRED",
either the EDD, the DTD, or both MAY specify a default
value (i.e, one of the specified values in the
name-token group."

What I was attempting to say (and not very well) was
the case where the DTD specifies an atttribute to be
REQUIRED, but the EDD specifies it as optional so that
a default value can be specified, which I suspect may
be what the originator of this thread was dealing
with. Clearly, that default value would not be
exported by FrameMaker, and thus an error would occur.

If the attribute is specified as OPTIONAL in both the
EDD and the DTD, and both the EDD and the DTD specify
a default value, that value should not be exported,
because the DTD should determine the default value.

INTERNAL ERROR message

[Shlomo Perets]

Murray,

You wrote:

 > ... I respond to the Looking for [missing screen shot] by updating the 
Document to Use New Path.
 > When I click Continue, I see an INTERNAL ERROR message.
 > ... I am using FrameMaker & SGML Version 6.0p357, XP Pro 2002 SP 2.

The internal errors are related to missing graphics when FM6.0 or 
FM+SGML6.0 are used on Windows XP. There is a specific patch for FM6.0, 
available for download from adobe.com, which fixes this problem:
-- FM 6.0: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1420
-- FM+SGML 6.0: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1425


Shlomo Perets

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Bleeds

[Steve Rickaby]

Thanks to Rick, Robert, Paul and Bodvar for advice on bleeds. I am now 
well-advised, with three different values ;-) However, as all are greater than 
I was currently using, I now know that the answer to my question is 'more'.
-- 
Steve

Those old book numbering blues

[Steve Rickaby]

At 9:17 am +1100 19/12/05, hedley.finger at myob.com wrote:

>With this scheme, you don't need numbering flows, e.g.
>  Chaps Whatever  Sects  Figs   Tables  Eqns   Steps
>Substeps
> Chapter\ <$chapnum>< >   < =0>  < =0>  < =0>   < =0>  < =0>  <
>=0>
>
>See the section "Using counters in autonumber formats" in the "Text
>formatting" chapter of the User Guide.

Yup, I'm now well-educated on complex numbering formats. In fact, I used to 
know all this from pre version 5 days (honest), but I'd archived the knowledge 
since the advent of simpler schemes based on $chapnum and named threads. I 
rarely use multi-level numbering.

Thanks to your and Roger Shuttleworth's help, I am now well re-educated and 
have numbering working exactly as I want. Roger was particularly patient with 
me as I floundered my way through sorting the problems out, even to the point 
of telling him firmly that it did not work when it did.

This subject needs better explanation than it gets in the user guide. One thing 
that is specifically counter-intuitive and needs to be spelled out very firmly 
is that fact that separate numbering fields within a thread do not necessarily 
map to separate level counters in a multi-level numbering scheme, which is what 
one might intuitively expect.

My thanks to all.
-- 
Steve