RE: DITA and FrameMaker

2006-07-26 Thread mark.poston
Hi,

Just to confirm ... the FrameMaker Adapter for the DITA Open Toolkit developed 
by Mekon and XMetaL is for print only. It is not designed to be used as a DITA 
authoring tool due to the changes we make to improve how the XML can be 
formatted, and to support specialisations without the need to extend the 
FrameMaker application itself.

One of the nice features of the FrameMaker Adapter is that it creates 
FrameMaker files that can be used with other tools like WebWorks/ePublisher Pro.

Kind regards

Mark Poston
Mekon Limited

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Based on the descriptions and the sourceforge notes, it seems to me that 
the XMetal add-in is to simply use FrameMaker as a PDF output engine.

The free Adobe plug-in that is due out shortly lets you use FrameMaker as 
your authoring environment.

Eric L. Dunn
Senior Technical Writer

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RE: Decompiling chm Help to Frame 7.2

2006-07-26 Thread Beck, Charles
Just a word of caution about the WebWorks Import Utility: While I agree
that it is generally a very nice tool, it does not handle tables well at
all. So, if you have tables, pay special attention to how they get
imported into Frame. However, Rick Quatro (on this list) has an
excellent Table Cleaner plug-in for Frame that will save you lots of
time cleaning up and formatting tables. 

I've been looking for a long time for a tool that will convert from HTML
(in various flavors) to Frame. The WW Import Utility is the only one
I've found. If there are others, I would like to know about them as
well. 

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Subject: RE: Decompiling chm Help to Frame 7.2

Jon,

WebWorks does make a tool called the Import Utility that will import a
.chm file and convert the content to FM. You then need to apply styles
and break the content into chapters (it all goes into one FM file). I've
used it on some RoboHelp projects, and it worked quite well. All
graphics came in and links were good, but links had to be redone after
setting up the individual chapter files.

Disclaimer: I'm a WWP reseller.

There may be other decompilers, but I suspect they won't put the content
directly into an FM doc. Please contact me offlist if you want more
information.

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FM DICTIONARIES ACCESS

2006-07-26 Thread Michael Zaichenko

Hi all,
   Does anyone know any programmatic way of accessing FrameMaker 
dictionaries

   or hyphenation rules. Anyting goes - FDK, FrameScript, Python. Trying to
   simulate Paragraph Composer (just like the one in InDesign) for FM -
   hyphenation is a bug - I can't access the language modules, they are
   encoded. Any suggestions are welcome.
   If you have anything developed in this direction I'm willing to exchange 
my

   data.
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CONVERTING FM TO INDD

2006-07-26 Thread Michael Zaichenko

Hello, everybody,
   Looking for fast and effective convertion method FrameMaker to InDesign.
   I used the long way of FM - MIF - Quark - INDD. Then I got a plugin for 
INDD

   so I can open MIF straight in INDD. Is there any other way?
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Aligned table cells in 2-columns layout

2006-07-26 Thread Olsson, Kristina
Hi,

I have a document with two columns per page, and I would like the table
cells to be aligned horizontally. 
Above the table there is a heading which goes across the columns. If I
place the marker for the table immediately after the heading, the entire
table will only show in the left column. If I place the marker at the
line below the heading, the table appears in both columns but the table
cells are not aligned horizontally. 
Does anyone know how to align the table cells horizontally (so that the
horizontal table cell lines are placed in line with each other) when
using a 2-column layout?
I'm grateful for help.

Regards Kristina
Editor, User documentation


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Re: Aligned table cells in 2-columns layout

2006-07-26 Thread hperez
Hi Kristina,
try this
   1. Make the pagination for your heading go “Across All and Side Heads”
   2. Anchor the table to a 2pt paragraph tag.
   3. Make the space above the table 0.0 pt.

Hope it works for you.
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Hi,

I have a document with two columns per page, and I would like the table
cells to be aligned horizontally.
Above the table there is a heading which goes across the columns. If I
place the marker for the table immediately after the heading, the entire
table will only show in the left column. If I place the marker at the
line below the heading, the table appears in both columns but the table
cells are not aligned horizontally.
Does anyone know how to align the table cells horizontally (so that the
horizontal table cell lines are placed in line with each other) when
using a 2-column layout?
I'm grateful for help.

Regards Kristina
Editor, User documentation


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Re: links in Frame converting to PDF

2006-07-26 Thread Pat Christenson

I've found that turning on Create Named Destinations works.

Pat Christenson

On Jul 26, 2006, at 5:08 AM, Beck, Charles wrote:


Hi all,

One other thing I have discovered (the hard way): If you want links to
work, you must select the 'Generate Acrobat Data' check box in the
'Print Book' dialog box before you print.

I also wonder with Surbhi whether you just have a few bad links or are
none of them working?

HTH,
Chuck


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Subject: Re: links in Frame converting to PDF

Hi Gillian

I make hypertext links in a similar fashion as you mentioned but they
work all fine. I guess, it has something to do with the way you convert
your fm file to pdf. As Denise has mentioned, 'print' your fm file/book
to pdf by opting for 'Adobe PDF' as the printer selection.

This should work. Just for information, do you have one or two bad  
links

OR are none of them working??

Rgds
Surbhi

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RE: Aligned table cells in 2-columns layout

2006-07-26 Thread Combs, Richard
Kristina Olsson wrote: 

 I have a document with two columns per page, and I would like 
 the table cells to be aligned horizontally. 
 Above the table there is a heading which goes across the 
 columns. If I place the marker for the table immediately 
 after the heading, the entire table will only show in the 
 left column. If I place the marker at the line below the 
 heading, the table appears in both columns but the table 
 cells are not aligned horizontally. 
 Does anyone know how to align the table cells horizontally 
 (so that the horizontal table cell lines are placed in line 
 with each other) when using a 2-column layout?
 I'm grateful for help.

If I'm understanding correctly, you want a table that's one column wide,
but long, to wrap to the second column and have the rows in the two
columns line up. Personally, I'd rethink this table. If the heading
above it spans both columns, why not create a table that spans both
columns, too? 

If necessary, you could make it look like two tables side-by-side by
having an invisible middle column (no rules/shading) that's the width
of the gutter. 

If you don't want to do that, you can force the rows to align by making
the height of all rows fixed and the same. Select the rows, select Table
 Row Format, and set the Min and Max to the same value. 

HTH!
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Re: Aligned table cells in 2-columns layout

2006-07-26 Thread Stuart Rogers

Olsson, Kristina wrote:

Hi,

I have a document with two columns per page, and I would like the table
cells to be aligned horizontally. 
Above the table there is a heading which goes across the columns. If I

place the marker for the table immediately after the heading, the entire
table will only show in the left column. If I place the marker at the
line below the heading, the table appears in both columns but the table
cells are not aligned horizontally. 
Does anyone know how to align the table cells horizontally (so that the

horizontal table cell lines are placed in line with each other) when
using a 2-column layout?
I'm grateful for help.


If I understand you correctly (and I'm sorry, but your question is not 
really clear), your heading is far enough down the page that there is 
just barely room below it in the left column for the entire table, and 
if you insert another body pgf below the heading, the table is then 
forced to flow into the second column. However, the top of the table in 
the left column appears below the empty body pgf, whereas the 
continuation in the right column appears level with it.


If that is the problem, you can fix it like this:

1. Create a new pgf tag called (e.g.) TableAnchor, identical to your 
body tag but with a negative Space Below of some number larger than the 
font size, e.g., -12pt for a 10pt font. (Some people also change the 
font colour to a bright colour so the pilcrow is easy to find and 
identify later. The colour is irrelevant because there is never any text 
in this tag.)


2. Put your table anchor in its own paragraph tagged TableAnchor.

3. Change the Space Above in your Table tag to the same negative number 
you used in step one. The negative spaces below and above cancel each 
other out, and your table will align at the top of the tagged pgf, 
rather than below it.


Now if your table flows into a second column, the tops of the two 
sections will be even.


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Re: Aligned table cells in 2-columns layout

2006-07-26 Thread Art Campbell

This is kind of a kludge and you'll have to fiddle with it, but it will work.

Create a new para format based on your body tag -- Foo.

In the Para Designer, Basic tab for Foo, assuming it's a 12 pt font
with 2 pt leading, set your Space Below to -28 pt (2x font+leading
size). I set line spacing to Fixed too, just to keep things simple.

Hit Enter a few times so you have three Body paras. Then set the
middle tag to Foo.
Insert the table, so that the anchor is the only content in Foo. (Note
that the table is going to be floating above the frame containing the
tag, so the anchor point disappears.)

Select the table and in your Table Designer, Basic tab for the table
style, set Space Above to -28 pt (font size + leading).

That should get your started. Time to twiddle. I had to adjust the
Space Below in Foo a point at a time to make it precise, and ended up
with a -26 pt. Drawing a line across the page as a reference to which
to align the cell rules helps.

Art



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Hi,

I have a document with two columns per page, and I would like the table
cells to be aligned horizontally.
Above the table there is a heading which goes across the columns. If I
place the marker for the table immediately after the heading, the entire
table will only show in the left column. If I place the marker at the
line below the heading, the table appears in both columns but the table
cells are not aligned horizontally.
Does anyone know how to align the table cells horizontally (so that the
horizontal table cell lines are placed in line with each other) when
using a 2-column layout?
I'm grateful for help.

Regards Kristina
Editor, User documentation



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MERIAM WEBSTER COMMUNICATION LINE

2006-07-26 Thread Michael Zaichenko

Hello All,
does anyone have any contact with Meriam-Websters developers, researchers, 
pro-users - anyone who knows how to access their dictionary and hyphenation 
modules. I'm trying to use hyphenation options in FM but can't access the 
modules.

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Re: MERIAM WEBSTER COMMUNICATION LINE

2006-07-26 Thread Art Campbell

So when you fill out their Contact Us form at
http://www.m-w.com/info/contact.htm,
they ignore you or 

Art

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Hello All,
does anyone have any contact with Meriam-Websters developers, researchers,
pro-users - anyone who knows how to access their dictionary and hyphenation
modules. I'm trying to use hyphenation options in FM but can't access the
modules.
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RE: MERIAM WEBSTER COMMUNICATION LINE

2006-07-26 Thread Combs, Richard
Michael Zaichenko wrote: 
 
 Hello All,
 does anyone have any contact with Meriam-Websters developers, 
 researchers, pro-users - anyone who knows how to access their 
 dictionary and hyphenation modules. I'm trying to use 
 hyphenation options in FM but can't access the modules.

What does trying to use hyphenation options mean? You do know about
user and site dictionaries, right? Both are plain text files, easily
manipulated with FrameScript, etc. 

I'm no expert -- I haven't done anything fancy with them, just
bulk-added some entries -- but you can specify hyphenation points for
any word by adding it to the user/site dictionary, and what you specify
will override/replace the existing (built-in) hyphenation. 

Simply enter the word with hyphens wherever you want a hyphenation
point: 

hy-phen-ation 

You can also prevent a word from being hyphenated -- just precede it
with a hyphen:

-hyphenation

Of course, if you want to change 10,000 words, the task might be a bit
daunting. ;-) But maybe there is a text file source for what you want? 

HTH!
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sorting translated tables

2006-07-26 Thread Klaus Mueller
Hi all,

> If you're a FrameScripter, this would probably be a nice
> little script to rename all markers of a given type to
> another "temporary" marker type.

I found a pretty old public quick-and-dirty script that
does this for the current document. See below.

Kind regards,
Klaus


8< -

  // SwitchMarkers.fsl
  // Klaus Mueller, Hamburg. March 26, 2002

  // [ Temporarily switch XRef-Markers ]

  // XRef-Markers within a table will be deleted
  // on table sorting (FM6-Bug).

  // This script changes temporarily the marker type.
  // On repeated call (after sorting) the original
  // marker will be reapplied.


  //Set vMarkerOriName = 'Querverweis';
  Set vMarkerOriName = 'Cross-Ref';
  Set vMarkerTmpName = 'Cross-RefTmp';
  //Set vMarkerTmpName = 'Glossary';

  Set vDoc = ActiveDoc;
  If not vDoc LeaveSub; EndIf

  Get Object Type(MarkerType) Name(vMarkerOriName)
NewVar(vMarkerOriObj) DocObject(vDoc) ;
  If not vMarkerOriObj
Display 'Marker "'+vMarkerOriName +'" is not defined.';
LeaveSub;
  EndIf

  Get Object Type(MarkerType) Name(vMarkerTmpName)
NewVar(vMarkerTmpObj) DocObject(vDoc) ;
  If not vMarkerTmpObj
New MarkerType Name(vMarkerTmpName)
  NewVar(vMarkerTmpObj) DocObject(vDoc);
  EndIf

  Find FromTextLoc Marker(vMarkerTmpName) ReturnStatus(vFound);
  If vFound
Set vMarkerGet = vMarkerTmpObj;
Set vMarkerSet = vMarkerOriObj;
  Else
Set vMarkerGet = vMarkerOriObj;
Set vMarkerSet = vMarkerTmpObj;
  EndIf

  Set vMarkerCount = 0;
  Loop ForEach(Marker) In(vDoc) LoopVar(vMarker)
If vMarker.MarkerTypeID.Name = vMarkerGet.Name
  Set vMarkerCount = vMarkerCount + 1;
  Set vMarker.MarkerTypeID = vMarkerSet;
EndIf
  EndLoop

  If vMarkerCount = 0
Display 'No markers of type "'+vMarkerGet.Name+'" found.   ';
  Else
Set vPl = '';
If vMarkerCount not= 1 Set vPl = 's'; EndIf
Set vMsg = vMarkerCount +'  Marker'+vPl+' of type "'+
  vMarkerGet.Name+'" changed to "'+vMarkerSet.Name+'".   ';
If vMarkerGet.Name = vMarkerOriName
  Set vMsg = vMsg +CHARCR+ 'To restore (after sorting): '+
'Call the script again.';
EndIf
Display vMsg;
  EndIf

  //-- Unfortunately, the temporary marker object cannot be deleted ...
  //Delete Object(vMarkerTmpObj);

8< -


--- Original Message ---
From: Scott Prentice
Date: 25.07.2006 22:33
> Nope .. I don't have such a plugin, and I'm not aware of one that would 
> help with this (but I've added it to my list of plugins to develop).
> 
> I just did some quick testing, and it appears (in FM 7.1) that this 
> doesn't affect other marker types .. so in theory, you could rename your 
> Cross-Ref markers to some other type, then do the sorting, and rename 
> them back to Cross-Refs. You could do this renaming via a global 
> search/replace in a MIF file, if there were too many to do manually. Not 
> the best option for a clean workflow, but it may be an option.
> 
> If you're a FrameScripter, this would probably be a nice little script 
> to rename all markers of a given type to another "temporary" marker type.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> ...scott
> 
> Scott Prentice
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> www.leximation.com
> +1.415.485.1892
> 
> 
> 
> Sales at Bright Path wrote:
>> Hi Bill:
>>
>> Unfortunately, this is a FrameMaker quirk and I think it has been in the
>> last 3 releases.  All xref markers go "poof" when you sort the table.
>> Unfortunately, the "fix" is to NOT do any sorting after you start placing
>> xrefs.
>>
>> Russ or Scott, do you have any plug-ins that fix this?
>>
>> Kay
>>
>> 
>> Kay Ethier
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>> Bright Path Solutions
>> PO Box 14265
>> Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-4265
>> 1.919.244.8559
>> FAX: 1.919.474.9223
>> URL: http://www.travelthepath.com
>> Conferences: http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill Swallow
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> We ran into an interesting issue. When sorting a table, we are noticing that
>> the xrefs are broken after the sort. We're running into this a lot now that
>> our translations are coming back from the localizers (given the tables need
>> to be re-sorted based on the language rules).
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed this broken xref issue when sorting tables
>> containing xrefs, and does anyone know a workaround other than manually
>> sorting the tables?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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links in Frame converting to PDF

2006-07-26 Thread Surbhi Singhal
Hi Gillian

I make hypertext links in a similar fashion as you mentioned but they work
all fine. I guess, it has something to do with the way you convert your fm
file to pdf. As Denise has mentioned, 'print' your fm file/book to pdf
by opting for 'Adobe PDF' as the printer selection.

This should work. Just for information, do you have one or two bad links OR
are none of them working??

Rgds
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Decompiling chm Help to Frame 7.2

2006-07-26 Thread Beck, Charles
Just a word of caution about the WebWorks Import Utility: While I agree
that it is generally a very nice tool, it does not handle tables well at
all. So, if you have tables, pay special attention to how they get
imported into Frame. However, Rick Quatro (on this list) has an
excellent Table Cleaner plug-in for Frame that will save you lots of
time cleaning up and formatting tables. 

I've been looking for a long time for a tool that will convert from HTML
(in various flavors) to Frame. The WW Import Utility is the only one
I've found. If there are others, I would like to know about them as
well. 

Chuck Beck


-Original Message-
Subject: RE: Decompiling chm Help to Frame 7.2

Jon,

WebWorks does make a tool called the Import Utility that will import a
.chm file and convert the content to FM. You then need to apply styles
and break the content into chapters (it all goes into one FM file). I've
used it on some RoboHelp projects, and it worked quite well. All
graphics came in and links were good, but links had to be redone after
setting up the individual chapter files.

Disclaimer: I'm a WWP reseller.

There may be other decompilers, but I suspect they won't put the content
directly into an FM doc. Please contact me offlist if you want more
information.




links in Frame converting to PDF

2006-07-26 Thread Beck, Charles
Hi all,

One other thing I have discovered (the hard way): If you want links to
work, you must select the 'Generate Acrobat Data' check box in the
'Print Book' dialog box before you print. 

I also wonder with Surbhi whether you just have a few bad links or are
none of them working?

HTH,
Chuck


-Original Message-
Subject: Re: links in Frame converting to PDF

Hi Gillian

I make hypertext links in a similar fashion as you mentioned but they
work all fine. I guess, it has something to do with the way you convert
your fm file to pdf. As Denise has mentioned, 'print' your fm file/book
to pdf by opting for 'Adobe PDF' as the printer selection.

This should work. Just for information, do you have one or two bad links
OR are none of them working??

Rgds
Surbhi




FM DICTIONARIES ACCESS

2006-07-26 Thread Michael Zaichenko
Hi all,
Does anyone know any programmatic way of accessing FrameMaker 
dictionaries
or hyphenation rules. Anyting goes - FDK, FrameScript, Python. Trying to
simulate Paragraph Composer (just like the one in InDesign) for FM -
hyphenation is a bug - I can't access the language modules, they are
encoded. Any suggestions are welcome.
If you have anything developed in this direction I'm willing to exchange 
my
data.
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2006-07-26 Thread Michael Zaichenko
Hello, everybody,
Looking for fast and effective convertion method FrameMaker to InDesign.
I used the long way of FM - MIF - Quark - INDD. Then I got a plugin for 
INDD
so I can open MIF straight in INDD. Is there any other way?
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Aligned table cells in 2-columns layout

2006-07-26 Thread Olsson, Kristina
Hi,

I have a document with two columns per page, and I would like the table
cells to be aligned horizontally. 
Above the table there is a heading which goes across the columns. If I
place the marker for the table immediately after the heading, the entire
table will only show in the left column. If I place the marker at the
line below the heading, the table appears in both columns but the table
cells are not aligned horizontally. 
Does anyone know how to align the table cells horizontally (so that the
horizontal table cell lines are placed in line with each other) when
using a 2-column layout?
I'm grateful for help.

Regards Kristina
Editor, User documentation





Aligned table cells in 2-columns layout

2006-07-26 Thread hpe...@beckman.com
Hi Kristina,
try this
   1. Make the pagination for your heading go ?Across All and Side Heads?
   2. Anchor the table to a 2pt paragraph tag.
   3. Make the space above the table 0.0 pt.

Hope it works for you.
Helen



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Hi,

I have a document with two columns per page, and I would like the table
cells to be aligned horizontally.
Above the table there is a heading which goes across the columns. If I
place the marker for the table immediately after the heading, the entire
table will only show in the left column. If I place the marker at the
line below the heading, the table appears in both columns but the table
cells are not aligned horizontally.
Does anyone know how to align the table cells horizontally (so that the
horizontal table cell lines are placed in line with each other) when
using a 2-column layout?
I'm grateful for help.

Regards Kristina
Editor, User documentation


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links in Frame converting to PDF

2006-07-26 Thread Pat Christenson
I've found that turning on Create Named Destinations works.

Pat Christenson

On Jul 26, 2006, at 5:08 AM, Beck, Charles wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> One other thing I have discovered (the hard way): If you want links to
> work, you must select the 'Generate Acrobat Data' check box in the
> 'Print Book' dialog box before you print.
>
> I also wonder with Surbhi whether you just have a few bad links or are
> none of them working?
>
> HTH,
> Chuck
>
>
> -Original Message-
> Subject: Re: links in Frame converting to PDF
>
> Hi Gillian
>
> I make hypertext links in a similar fashion as you mentioned but they
> work all fine. I guess, it has something to do with the way you convert
> your fm file to pdf. As Denise has mentioned, 'print' your fm file/book
> to pdf by opting for 'Adobe PDF' as the printer selection.
>
> This should work. Just for information, do you have one or two bad  
> links
> OR are none of them working??
>
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> Surbhi
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Aligned table cells in 2-columns layout

2006-07-26 Thread Combs, Richard
Kristina Olsson wrote: 

> I have a document with two columns per page, and I would like 
> the table cells to be aligned horizontally. 
> Above the table there is a heading which goes across the 
> columns. If I place the marker for the table immediately 
> after the heading, the entire table will only show in the 
> left column. If I place the marker at the line below the 
> heading, the table appears in both columns but the table 
> cells are not aligned horizontally. 
> Does anyone know how to align the table cells horizontally 
> (so that the horizontal table cell lines are placed in line 
> with each other) when using a 2-column layout?
> I'm grateful for help.

If I'm understanding correctly, you want a table that's one column wide,
but long, to wrap to the second column and have the rows in the two
columns line up. Personally, I'd rethink this table. If the heading
above it spans both columns, why not create a table that spans both
columns, too? 

If necessary, you could make it look like two tables side-by-side by
having an "invisible" middle column (no rules/shading) that's the width
of the gutter. 

If you don't want to do that, you can force the rows to align by making
the height of all rows fixed and the same. Select the rows, select Table
> Row Format, and set the Min and Max to the same value. 

HTH!
Richard


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Aligned table cells in 2-columns layout

2006-07-26 Thread Stuart Rogers
Olsson, Kristina wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a document with two columns per page, and I would like the table
> cells to be aligned horizontally. 
> Above the table there is a heading which goes across the columns. If I
> place the marker for the table immediately after the heading, the entire
> table will only show in the left column. If I place the marker at the
> line below the heading, the table appears in both columns but the table
> cells are not aligned horizontally. 
> Does anyone know how to align the table cells horizontally (so that the
> horizontal table cell lines are placed in line with each other) when
> using a 2-column layout?
> I'm grateful for help.

If I understand you correctly (and I'm sorry, but your question is not 
really clear), your heading is far enough down the page that there is 
just barely room below it in the left column for the entire table, and 
if you insert another body pgf below the heading, the table is then 
forced to flow into the second column. However, the top of the table in 
the left column appears below the empty body pgf, whereas the 
continuation in the right column appears level with it.

If that is the problem, you can fix it like this:

1. Create a new pgf tag called (e.g.) TableAnchor, identical to your 
body tag but with a negative Space Below of some number larger than the 
font size, e.g., -12pt for a 10pt font. (Some people also change the 
font colour to a bright colour so the pilcrow is easy to find and 
identify later. The colour is irrelevant because there is never any text 
in this tag.)

2. Put your table anchor in its own paragraph tagged TableAnchor.

3. Change the Space Above in your Table tag to the same negative number 
you used in step one. The negative spaces below and above cancel each 
other out, and your table will align at the top of the tagged pgf, 
rather than below it.

Now if your table flows into a second column, the tops of the two 
sections will be even.

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Aligned table cells in 2-columns layout

2006-07-26 Thread Art Campbell
This is kind of a kludge and you'll have to fiddle with it, but it will work.

Create a new para format based on your body tag -- "Foo."

In the Para Designer, Basic tab for Foo, assuming it's a 12 pt font
with 2 pt leading, set your Space Below to -28 pt (2x font+leading
size). I set line spacing to Fixed too, just to keep things simple.

Hit Enter a few times so you have three Body paras. Then set the
middle tag to Foo.
Insert the table, so that the anchor is the only content in Foo. (Note
that the table is going to be floating above the frame containing the
tag, so the anchor point disappears.)

Select the table and in your Table Designer, Basic tab for the table
style, set Space Above to -28 pt (font size + leading).

That should get your started. Time to twiddle. I had to adjust the
Space Below in Foo a point at a time to make it precise, and ended up
with a -26 pt. Drawing a line across the page as a reference to which
to align the cell rules helps.

Art



On 7/26/06, Olsson, Kristina  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a document with two columns per page, and I would like the table
> cells to be aligned horizontally.
> Above the table there is a heading which goes across the columns. If I
> place the marker for the table immediately after the heading, the entire
> table will only show in the left column. If I place the marker at the
> line below the heading, the table appears in both columns but the table
> cells are not aligned horizontally.
> Does anyone know how to align the table cells horizontally (so that the
> horizontal table cell lines are placed in line with each other) when
> using a 2-column layout?
> I'm grateful for help.
>
> Regards Kristina
> Editor, User documentation


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FM DICTIONARIES ACCESS

2006-07-26 Thread Robert Stoker
We checked into this a few years ago and found that the Spelling and 
Thesaurus portions of FrameMaker are copyrighted to 
Proximity/Merriam-Webster. The main dictionary and lookup functions 
were not accessible via the FrameMaker SDK.? Adobe only allowed access 
to the so-called "personal" and "site" dictionaries. We contacted 
Proximity/Merriam-Webster about gaining access and got no response. 
Eventually we gave up and went another way.

The Proximity website is:

http://proximity.franklin.com/index.html

Good luck.

Regards,
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Seatech Publications, Inc.
Content Development,
FrameMaker Plug-ins, and
Product Information Management Systems
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FM DICTIONARIES ACCESS
Michael Zaichenko  biozaichenko at hotmail.com
  Wed Jul 26 07:22:09 MDT 2006
Hi all,
 Does anyone know any programmatic way of accessing FrameMaker
dictionaries
 or hyphenation rules. Anyting goes - FDK, FrameScript, Python. 
Trying to
 simulate Paragraph Composer (just like the one in InDesign) for FM -
 hyphenation is a bug - I can't access the language modules, they are
 encoded. Any suggestions are welcome.
 If you have anything developed in this direction I'm willing to 
exchange
my
 data.
 Michael



Aligned table cells in 2-columns layout

2006-07-26 Thread Paul Findon
On 26 Jul 2006, at 17:08, Olsson, Kristina wrote:

> I have a document with two columns per page, and I would like the  
> table
> cells to be aligned horizontally.
> Above the table there is a heading which goes across the columns. If I
> place the marker for the table immediately after the heading, the  
> entire
> table will only show in the left column. If I place the marker at the
> line below the heading, the table appears in both columns but the  
> table
> cells are not aligned horizontally.
> Does anyone know how to align the table cells horizontally (so that  
> the
> horizontal table cell lines are placed in line with each other) when
> using a 2-column layout?
> I'm grateful for help.

Easy one this.

Insert your table below the heading in its own paragraph. In the  
Paragraph Designer, set the Space Below to, say -10pt, and set the  
Format to In Column. Then, click in the table and in the Table  
Designer, set the Space Above to -10 pt. This will align your table's  
cells across both columns.

There's a page on the Adobe Web site about this somewhere.

Good luck!

Paul



MERIAM WEBSTER COMMUNICATION LINE

2006-07-26 Thread Michael Zaichenko
Hello All,
does anyone have any contact with Meriam-Websters developers, researchers, 
pro-users - anyone who knows how to access their dictionary and hyphenation 
modules. I'm trying to use hyphenation options in FM but can't access the 
modules.
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MERIAM WEBSTER COMMUNICATION LINE

2006-07-26 Thread Art Campbell
So when you fill out their "Contact Us" form at
http://www.m-w.com/info/contact.htm,
they ignore you or 

Art

On 7/26/06, Michael Zaichenko  wrote:
> Hello All,
> does anyone have any contact with Meriam-Websters developers, researchers,
> pro-users - anyone who knows how to access their dictionary and hyphenation
> modules. I'm trying to use hyphenation options in FM but can't access the
> modules.
> Michael


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MERIAM WEBSTER COMMUNICATION LINE

2006-07-26 Thread Combs, Richard
Michael Zaichenko wrote: 

> Hello All,
> does anyone have any contact with Meriam-Websters developers, 
> researchers, pro-users - anyone who knows how to access their 
> dictionary and hyphenation modules. I'm trying to use 
> hyphenation options in FM but can't access the modules.

What does "trying to use hyphenation options" mean? You do know about
user and site dictionaries, right? Both are plain text files, easily
manipulated with FrameScript, etc. 

I'm no expert -- I haven't done anything fancy with them, just
bulk-added some entries -- but you can specify hyphenation points for
any word by adding it to the user/site dictionary, and what you specify
will override/replace the existing (built-in) hyphenation. 

Simply enter the word with hyphens wherever you want a hyphenation
point: 

hy-phen-ation 

You can also prevent a word from being hyphenated -- just precede it
with a hyphen:

-hyphenation

Of course, if you want to change 10,000 words, the task might be a bit
daunting. ;-) But maybe there is a text file source for what you want? 

HTH!
Richard


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