Problem breaking at headers when saving book as html

2007-11-01 Thread Inbar, Paul

Hi all,

I am posting this on behalf of a colleague:

I need to save a FrameMaker Book (Frame 7.2) (9 files, approx. 200
pages) to html for use as an online help. FrameMaker has the option of
breaking the web pages according to Headings. This creates small, usable
web pages. I edited the Reference page tables in all of the
Books documents, not just the first doc as is suggested. When I save the
individual files they break at each of the Headings, as advertised. When
I save the Book, I get a mixed bag with some Headings broken off
correctly and others converted to a different format and merged into an
unwieldy web page. My alternative is to save the files individually and
then create links across the new folders in Frontpage. But this
represents a fair amount of work. Any suggestions?

I should mention that I don't have an online help program and my
department is not prepared to purchase one at this time.
Thanks, in advance.


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RE: radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Gordon McLean
I spy a Mark Twain quote in your email signature...

Are you familiar with the one about sarcasm?

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Amen.


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RE: radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Gordon McLean
I'm on that list too Peter, I find both to be engaging at different times. 

Glad to hear that someone is using the delete key though!

Gordon

P.S. TechCommPro is currently discussing the horror of the fact that
postings there may be being archived by another service. Not really that
engaging at the moment! ;-)

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Hi, folks:

I've been deleting messages on this thread for some time because it's not
relevant to me.

However, you all might find a more engaging community at techcommpros, the
new tech writers listserv, that branched off techwr-l some time ago. Here's
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RE: radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Do tell :) 

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RE: radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Technical Writer

Again, that is a design progroblem, not a documentation problem. Good GUI 
design never, ever results in an interface that doesn't make sense. If it did, 
it wouldn't be good GUI design. On the typical large-scale project, GUI 
designers serve the dual function of designers and usability experts; if they 
crank out spiffy GUIs that fail, they won't be working very long. Business 
competition has a tendency to validate 
Darwin.http://www.tekwrytrs.com/Specializing in the Design, Development, and 
Production of:Technical Documentation - Online Content - Enterprise Websites 
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:48:05 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 
radical revamping of techpubs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
framers@lists.frameusers.com  A product can have good design, and good 
programming, and still be inadequate for users.  How can that be, you ask? 
 Technically speaking, it may be doing what its creators think it should, and 
it may be well-created. It may be disorganized, and it may not address the 
user's needs, and that's where TWs come in.  We are the only group who sees 
the application, from start to finish, from a user perspective. Therefore we 
are able to offer sanity checks:  - This interface doesn't make sense. - 
Although the app is well-designed, in this context it becomes slow or crashes, 
and in our view, users will come this way often. - The task we're designing 
this for is too narrow/too broad.  --- Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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programmers, and the GUI designers. Using TW to cover up poor design  and 
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RE: radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Technical Writer

Contract exclusively, preferably three- to six-month. Contractors tend to be 
more fully focused on task completion, and doing the job right, both of which 
suit my inclinations perfectly. Full-time work becomes more a social issue, 
in which the most importance is attached to fitting in with the existing 
culture. Because a substantial part of my training is to create those 
cultures, I have a much different perspective on them.
 
Example; education. If the hiring manager has a BS, anyone with a more advanced 
degree will be considered a potential rival--regardless of what positive 
contribution he or she might make to the organization. Similarly, if you have 
spent the last three or four years as a project manager, and are now applying 
for a developer or tech writer position, you are almost guaranteed to be 
considered a potential adversary, sight unseen.
 
Why would anyone with experience as a manager want a developer or tech writer 
position? More jobs, more opportunities, less hassle, less effort. Lots of IT 
people switch from doer to manager and back. Keeps up the job interest, keeps 
it challenging, a myriad of reasons. Most work as contractors, and politely 
decline offers of full-time work as the equivalent of being purchased as a 
wage slave by an organization that clearly understands it can more easily 
manipulate its employees than it can manipulate contractors. A gold star, an 
Employee-of-the-Month certificate, recognition, congratulations on a job 
well-done, flattery, perhaps even a favored parking spot for a month--have 
meaning only to those many contractors refer to as lifers.
 
 
 
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:24:48 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 
radical revamping of techpubs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Interesting. All of 
this has helped me with an upcoming article on this topic. It sounds like 
you've had some industry experience. If you don't mind me asking, do you 
normally seek contract or full-time work? Trying to make that decision here 
myself.  --- Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really. 
Some agile programmers specialize in a perpetual  work-in-process, sometimes 
with 20-30 programmers building a software  application that seems a moving 
target, with new and unanticipated  requirements surfacing frequently. It 
is in the best interest of the  developer to cater to change (one of the 
basic mottos of Extreme  Programming is Embrace Change), and the more 
requirements change,  for whatever reason, the less pressure to complete 
the project. From the perspective of a developer, each iteration is 
completion,  because they are paid on a regular basis, not for completion 
of the  project. Project managers use various carrot-and-stick techniques to 
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Subject: RE: radical revamping of techpubs  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED];  framers@lists.frameusers.com  For any project that size, won't 
it  take some months for it to complete, as it will for the docs to be  
done, which means that the TW is first going to be assembling  information 
and writing known parts of the doc, and then expanding  to write as parts of 
the software become formalized?  ---  Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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RE: radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread John Posada
 Contract exclusively, preferably three- to six-month. Contractors
 tend to be more fully focused on task completion, and doing the job
 right, both of which suit my inclinations perfectly. Full-time
 work becomes more a social issue, in which the most importance is

Allow mw to offer a different perspective without disputing what
Chris says, except to say it's not as black and white as he makes it
out to be.

 Why would anyone with experience as a manager want a developer or
 tech writer position? More jobs, more opportunities, less hassle,
 less effort. Lots of IT people switch from doer to manager and
 back. Keeps up the job interest, keeps it challenging, a myriad of
 reasons. Most work as contractors, and politely decline offers of
 full-time work as the equivalent of being purchased as a wage
 slave by an organization that clearly understands it can more
 easily manipulate its employees than it can manipulate contractors.
 A gold star, an Employee-of-the-Month certificate, recognition,
 congratulations on a job well-done, flattery, perhaps even a
 favored parking spot for a month--have meaning only to those many
 contractors refer to as lifers.

I was a contractor for 18+ years at over 10 gigs with some
blue-ribbon companies, so I think I paid my contractor-dues.

Yes, as an employee, there is the gold star, certificates, corporate
culture/drinking the koolaid mentality and sometimes, the cover of
the corporate magazine (me in this quarter). I can take that stuff or
leave it.

I'm currently an employee of a Fortune 500 IT company; EMC (two years
this coming April). Why did I jump the fence? I'd heard that EMC was
strong on training. So, while I churn out user guides, installation
manuals, and such, I can also take advantage of a wide range of
training opportunities that I would not have been able to afford.
What kind of training? 
- ITIL Foundation Certification
- Six Sigma Greenbelt with a project in the works
- UML courses
- Human Factors courses
- DITA and Usability bootcamps
- UNIX and Linux college courses
- The ability to set corporate standards through online help and 508
standards committes
- others

All 100% paid while working from home 4-5 days a week.

Granted...not all companies offer opportunities. However, find the
right one and you can take advantage of things they offer as they do
so with you.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

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So far, so good.
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SOLVED: Re: Need a few references

2007-11-01 Thread Rick Quatro
Thanks to all who generously provided recommendations. I really appreciate 
it.


Rick Quatro
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585-659-8267
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Distinguishing markers

2007-11-01 Thread Doug
Some of my documents have Index markers, Reference markers, and other
markers all located such that you cannot see more than a single marker
on the screen.  The central way to determine how many markers there
are is to count how many times the cursor fails to move each time you
press an arrow key.  Is there a way to make the markers display
distinctly so you can distinguish them, if only temporarily?

Please CC: me off list as well as on-list.

Thanks,

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RE: Distinguishing markers

2007-11-01 Thread Charles Beck
Hi Doug,

The easiest way to do this is to move the overlapping markers so that
there is space between them. Cut and paste one marker at a time to a
different location, even if it is only one letter away from the other
existing markers. To do this, you must be displaying text symbols (View
menu  Text Symbols). Make sure you have only one marker selected when
you cut and paste. 

HTH,
Chuck Beck

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Some of my documents have Index markers, Reference markers, and other
markers all located such that you cannot see more than a single marker
on the screen.  The central way to determine how many markers there are
is to count how many times the cursor fails to move each time you press
an arrow key.  Is there a way to make the markers display distinctly so
you can distinguish them, if only temporarily?

Please CC: me off list as well as on-list.

Thanks,

--Doug
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Re: Distinguishing markers

2007-11-01 Thread Stuart Rogers

Doug wrote:

Some of my documents have Index markers, Reference markers, and other
markers all located such that you cannot see more than a single marker
on the screen.  The central way to determine how many markers there
are is to count how many times the cursor fails to move each time you
press an arrow key.  Is there a way to make the markers display
distinctly so you can distinguish them, if only temporarily?


Not that I know of.  However, if the Marker window is open when your 
cursor is on a marker, the type of marker will be displayed in the 
Marker window.


If you have IXGen, you can expand (display) or collapse the text content 
of markers by marker type.  If you don't have IXGen or another 
marker-management plug-in, you should buy one; it'll pay for itself the 
first time you use it.


HTH,

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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
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Re: Distinguishing markers

2007-11-01 Thread Scott Prentice
There are a few plugins that will expand the markers in place, but 
MarkerTools lets you select multiple markers at once (or the whole file) 
and browse through them one at a time or filter on a specific marker 
type and get the total count of marker selected. (In addition to other 
useful features).


   http://leximation.com/tools/info/markertools.php

You can see all available marker-related plugins (currently 10) in our 
Tool Search database ..


   http://leximation.com/toolsearch/?kwds=marker

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
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Stuart Rogers wrote:

Doug wrote:

Some of my documents have Index markers, Reference markers, and other
markers all located such that you cannot see more than a single marker
on the screen.  The central way to determine how many markers there
are is to count how many times the cursor fails to move each time you
press an arrow key.  Is there a way to make the markers display
distinctly so you can distinguish them, if only temporarily?


Not that I know of.  However, if the Marker window is open when your 
cursor is on a marker, the type of marker will be displayed in the 
Marker window.


If you have IXGen, you can expand (display) or collapse the text 
content of markers by marker type.  If you don't have IXGen or another 
marker-management plug-in, you should buy one; it'll pay for itself 
the first time you use it.


HTH,


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Re: Fixing Numbers in PDF Bookmarks

2007-11-01 Thread Shmuel Wolfson

I think the soft return is the simplest and most elegant solution.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



William Abernathy wrote:
Here's an annoyance I'm stumped on. I've been working on updating my 
group's template, which is a unification of two work groups' templates.


One group had chapter title paragraph tags that addressed chapter 
numbering with  a simple auto-number, after which the writer was 
required to enter a soft (linefeed) return to enter the chapter title. 
The other group had a special frame on the First master page that 
contained the chapter number, which would appear automatically, with 
writers simply required to enter the chapter title in the adjacent 
title line field. I proposed a simple alternative, which eliminated 
the first group's required user input and the complexity of the second 
group's extra master pages and paragraph tags. This was to use a 
Chapter title paragraph tag that had the chapter number, a tab, and 
the text.


Would that life were so simple.

The group decided that for readability, the chapter/appendix number 
and the text should appear on the right margin. FrameMaker does not 
like line feeds in the autonumber fields, so I accomplished this by 
cunning subterkludge: I defined the Chapter and Appendix paragraph 
tags as:

C:$chapnum =0 =0 =0 =0 =0[ and 46 spaces ]

The 46 spaces forced a new line, everything stuck to the right margin, 
and peace and love ruled the stars...


Until we output the thing to PDF. [Frame 7.x outputting to PDF 5.0 
using Distiller 7.0 on Windows XP]


The space-forced line feed results in repeated chapter numbers in the 
PDF bookmarks. For example:


1 1 Chapter Title
A A Appendix Title

Does anyone know alternatives for:
* Forcing a line feed in a chapter-heading paragraph format?
* Suppressing this bizarre repeated numbering?

Thanks in advance,

--William



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RE: radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Technical Writer

There are situations in which being a full-time employee is more advantageous 
than being a contractor. I don't know that training would be one of them, 
because a lot depends on the quality of training, and how transferrable the 
skills are. It also depends on how close a fit the training is for the learning 
style of the learner. 
 
Only 10 jobs in 18+ years? That is an impressive record for a contractor. It 
may be that there are different shades of meaning in our interpretations of the 
term contractor. 
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Production of:Technical Documentation - Online Content - Enterprise Websites 
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:57:49 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 
radical revamping of techpubs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
framers@lists.frameusers.com   Contract exclusively, preferably three- to 
six-month. Contractors  tend to be more fully focused on task completion, and 
doing the job  right, both of which suit my inclinations perfectly. 
Full-time  work becomes more a social issue, in which the most importance 
is  Allow mw to offer a different perspective without disputing what Chris 
says, except to say it's not as black and white as he makes it out to be.   
Why would anyone with experience as a manager want a developer or  tech 
writer position? More jobs, more opportunities, less hassle,  less effort. 
Lots of IT people switch from doer to manager and  back. Keeps up the job 
interest, keeps it challenging, a myriad of  reasons. Most work as 
contractors, and politely decline offers of  full-time work as the 
equivalent of being purchased as a wage  slave by an organization that 
clearly understands it can more  easily manipulate its employees than it can 
manipulate contractors.  A gold star, an Employee-of-the-Month certificate, 
recognition,  congratulations on a job well-done, flattery, perhaps even a  
favored parking spot for a month--have meaning only to those many  
contractors refer to as lifers.  I was a contractor for 18+ years at over 
10 gigs with some blue-ribbon companies, so I think I paid my 
contractor-dues.  Yes, as an employee, there is the gold star, certificates, 
corporate culture/drinking the koolaid mentality and sometimes, the cover of 
the corporate magazine (me in this quarter). I can take that stuff or leave 
it.  I'm currently an employee of a Fortune 500 IT company; EMC (two years 
this coming April). Why did I jump the fence? I'd heard that EMC was strong on 
training. So, while I churn out user guides, installation manuals, and such, I 
can also take advantage of a wide range of training opportunities that I would 
not have been able to afford. What kind of training?  - ITIL Foundation 
Certification - Six Sigma Greenbelt with a project in the works - UML 
courses - Human Factors courses - DITA and Usability bootcamps - UNIX and 
Linux college courses - The ability to set corporate standards through online 
help and 508 standards committes - others  All 100% paid while working from 
home 4-5 days a week.  Granted...not all companies offer opportunities. 
However, find the right one and you can take advantage of things they offer as 
they do so with you.  John Posada Senior Technical Writer  They say 
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RE: radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Technical Writer

It is almost comical to see a job description that stresses knowledge of 
project management, apparently a euphemism for we have to work 70 hours a 
week withut extra compensation to make the deadline, when the same job tends 
to exclude those with experience as PMs. 
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radical revamping of techpubs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I've seen the same 
thing. It's too bad, because a tech writer with those skills is more likely to 
understand the development process in my view.  --- Technical Writer [EMAIL 
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RE: radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread John Posada
 There are situations in which being a full-time employee is more
 advantageous than being a contractor. I don't know that training
 would be one of them, because a lot depends on the quality of
 training, and how transferrable the skills are. It also depends on
 how close a fit the training is for the learning style of the
 learner. 

It was my criteria for taking the F/T position.

 Only 10 jobs in 18+ years? That is an impressive record for a
 contractor. It may be that there are different shades of meaning in
 our interpretations of the term contractor. 

If I work for an agency and report to a third party, to me that is a
contractor. Is that not interpretted as a contractor?

I always made the determination that I would not discuss gigs that
were planned for less than six months and several gigs went close to
two years. It was almost normal that my contract was extended
multiple times.


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Easy find for soft Returns?

2007-11-01 Thread Paul Pehrson
Is there an easy way to search through a Frame book to find places where
I've inserted a soft return and replace it with text?

I know Frame's Find/Change window is quite powerful, but I'm not sure which
combination of options to choose to find the item I'm looking for.

Thanks!


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Problem breaking at headers when saving book as html

2007-11-01 Thread Inbar, Paul

Hi all,

I am posting this on behalf of a colleague:

I need to save a FrameMaker Book (Frame 7.2) (9 files, approx. 200
pages) to html for use as an online help. FrameMaker has the option of
breaking the web pages according to Headings. This creates small, usable
web pages. I edited the Reference page tables in all of the
Books documents, not just the first doc as is suggested. When I save the
individual files they break at each of the Headings, as advertised. When
I save the Book, I get a mixed bag with some Headings broken off
correctly and others converted to a different format and merged into an
unwieldy web page. My alternative is to save the files individually and
then create links across the new folders in Frontpage. But this
represents a fair amount of work. Any suggestions?

I should mention that I don't have an online help program and my
department is not prepared to purchase one at this time.
Thanks, in advance.


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radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Gordon McLean
I'm on that list too Peter, I find both to be engaging at different times. 

Glad to hear that someone is using the delete key though!

Gordon

P.S. TechCommPro is currently discussing the horror of the fact that
postings there may be being archived by another service. Not really that
engaging at the moment! ;-)

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Hi, folks:

I've been deleting messages on this thread for some time because it's not
relevant to me.

However, you all might find a more engaging community at techcommpros, the
new tech writers listserv, that branched off techwr-l some time ago. Here's
the contact:


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radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Gordon McLean
I spy a Mark Twain quote in your email signature...

Are you familiar with the one about sarcasm?

Gordon 

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Amen.


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radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Do tell :) 

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Amen.


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radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Technical Writer

Again, that is a design progroblem, not a documentation problem. Good GUI 
design never, ever results in an interface that doesn't make sense. If it did, 
it wouldn't be good GUI design. On the typical large-scale project, GUI 
designers serve the dual function of designers and usability experts; if they 
crank out spiffy GUIs that fail, they won't be working very long. Business 
competition has a tendency to validate 
Darwin.http://www.tekwrytrs.com/Specializing in the Design, Development, and 
Production of:Technical Documentation - Online Content - Enterprise Websites> 
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:48:05 -0700> From: athloi at yahoo.com> Subject: RE: 
radical revamping of techpubs> To: tekwrytr at hotmail.com; framers at 
lists.frameusers.com> > A product can have good design, and good programming, 
and still be> inadequate for users.> > How can that be, you ask?> > Technically 
speaking, it may be doing what its creators think it> should, and it may be 
well-created. It may be disorganized, and it may> not address the user's needs, 
and that's where TWs come in.> > We are the only group who sees the 
application, from start to finish,> from a user perspective. Therefore we are 
able to offer sanity checks:> > - This interface doesn't make sense.> - 
Although the app is well-designed, in this context it becomes slow or> crashes, 
and in our view, users will come this way often.> - The task we're designing 
this for is too narrow/too broad.> > --- Technical Writer  wrote:> > > Exactly. And that is in the province of the developer, 
the> > programmers, and the GUI designers. Using TW to cover up poor design> > 
and inadequate programming is not particularly useful for> > anyone.> > 
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radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Technical Writer

Contract exclusively, preferably three- to six-month. Contractors tend to be 
more fully focused on task completion, and doing the job right, both of which 
suit my inclinations perfectly. "Full-time" work becomes more a social issue, 
in which the most importance is attached to "fitting in with the existing 
culture." Because a substantial part of my training is to create those 
cultures, I have a much different perspective on them.

Example; education. If the hiring manager has a BS, anyone with a more advanced 
degree will be considered a potential rival--regardless of what positive 
contribution he or she might make to the organization. Similarly, if you have 
spent the last three or four years as a project manager, and are now applying 
for a developer or tech writer position, you are almost guaranteed to be 
considered a potential adversary, sight unseen.

Why would anyone with experience as a manager want a developer or tech writer 
position? More jobs, more opportunities, less hassle, less effort. Lots of IT 
people switch from doer to manager and back. Keeps up the job interest, keeps 
it challenging, a myriad of reasons. Most work as contractors, and politely 
decline offers of "full-time" work as the equivalent of being purchased as a 
"wage slave" by an organization that clearly understands it can more easily 
manipulate its employees than it can manipulate contractors. A gold star, an 
Employee-of-the-Month certificate, recognition, congratulations on a job 
well-done, flattery, perhaps even a favored parking spot for a month--have 
meaning only to those many contractors refer to as "lifers."



http://www.tekwrytrs.com/Specializing in the Design, Development, and 
Production of:Technical Documentation - Online Content - Enterprise Websites> 
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:24:48 -0700> From: athloi at yahoo.com> Subject: RE: 
radical revamping of techpubs> To: tekwrytr at hotmail.com> > Interesting. All 
of this has helped me with an upcoming article on this> topic. It sounds like 
you've had some industry experience. If you don't> mind me asking, do you 
normally seek contract or full-time work? Trying> to make that decision here 
myself.> > --- Technical Writer  wrote:> > > > > Not 
really. Some agile programmers specialize in a perpetual> > work-in-process, 
sometimes with 20-30 programmers building a software> > application that seems 
a moving target, with "new and unanticipated> > requirements" surfacing 
frequently. It is in the best interest of the> > developer to cater to change 
(one of the basic mottos of Extreme> > Programming is "Embrace Change"), and 
the more "requirements" change,> > for whatever reason, the less pressure to 
"complete the project." > > > > From the perspective of a developer, each 
iteration is "completion,"> > because they are paid on a regular basis, not for 
completion of the> > project. Project managers use various carrot-and-stick 
techniques to> > try to keep control of the situation, with less than 
impressive> > results.http://www.tekwrytrs.com/Specializing in the Design,> > 
Development, and Production of:Technical Documentation - Online> > Content - 
Enterprise Websites> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:59:44 -0700>> > From: athloi at 
yahoo.com> Subject: RE: radical revamping of techpubs>> > To: tekwrytr at 
hotmail.com; rinnie1 at yahoo.com;> > framers at lists.frameusers.com> > For 
any project that size, won't it> > take some months for it to> complete, as it 
will for the docs to be> > done, which means that the TW> is first going to be 
assembling> > information and writing known parts of> the doc, and then 
expanding> > to write as parts of the software become> formalized?> > ---> > 
Technical Writer  wrote:> > > I said that in an> > 
ambiguous, undefined software project> > (which many, including> > 
multi-million dollar, tend to be), it is> > pointless to create> > 
documentation of an application that may--and> > probably> > will--change at 
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radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread John Posada
> Contract exclusively, preferably three- to six-month. Contractors
> tend to be more fully focused on task completion, and doing the job
> right, both of which suit my inclinations perfectly. "Full-time"
> work becomes more a social issue, in which the most importance is

Allow mw to offer a different perspective without disputing what
Chris says, except to say it's not as black and white as he makes it
out to be.

> Why would anyone with experience as a manager want a developer or
> tech writer position? More jobs, more opportunities, less hassle,
> less effort. Lots of IT people switch from doer to manager and
> back. Keeps up the job interest, keeps it challenging, a myriad of
> reasons. Most work as contractors, and politely decline offers of
> "full-time" work as the equivalent of being purchased as a "wage
> slave" by an organization that clearly understands it can more
> easily manipulate its employees than it can manipulate contractors.
> A gold star, an Employee-of-the-Month certificate, recognition,
> congratulations on a job well-done, flattery, perhaps even a
> favored parking spot for a month--have meaning only to those many
> contractors refer to as "lifers."

I was a contractor for 18+ years at over 10 gigs with some
blue-ribbon companies, so I think I paid my contractor-dues.

Yes, as an employee, there is the gold star, certificates, corporate
culture/drinking the koolaid mentality and sometimes, the cover of
the corporate magazine (me in this quarter). I can take that stuff or
leave it.

I'm currently an employee of a Fortune 500 IT company; EMC (two years
this coming April). Why did I jump the fence? I'd heard that EMC was
strong on training. So, while I churn out user guides, installation
manuals, and such, I can also take advantage of a wide range of
training opportunities that I would not have been able to afford.
What kind of training? 
- ITIL Foundation Certification
- Six Sigma Greenbelt with a project in the works
- UML courses
- Human Factors courses
- DITA and Usability bootcamps
- UNIX and Linux college courses
- The ability to set corporate standards through online help and 508
standards committes
- others

All 100% paid while working from home 4-5 days a week.

Granted...not all companies offer opportunities. However, find the
right one and you can take advantage of things they offer as they do
so with you.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

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SOLVED: Re: Need a few references

2007-11-01 Thread Rick Quatro
Thanks to all who generously provided recommendations. I really appreciate 
it.

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Distinguishing markers

2007-11-01 Thread Doug
Some of my documents have Index markers, Reference markers, and other
markers all located such that you cannot see more than a single marker
on the screen.  The central way to determine how many markers there
are is to count how many times the cursor fails to move each time you
press an arrow key.  Is there a way to make the markers display
distinctly so you can distinguish them, if only temporarily?

Please CC: me off list as well as on-list.

Thanks,

--Doug



Distinguishing markers

2007-11-01 Thread Charles Beck
Hi Doug,

The easiest way to do this is to move the overlapping markers so that
there is space between them. Cut and paste one marker at a time to a
different location, even if it is only one letter away from the other
existing markers. To do this, you must be displaying text symbols (View
menu > Text Symbols). Make sure you have only one marker selected when
you cut and paste. 

HTH,
Chuck Beck

Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 |
Charles.Beck at infor.com 



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To: Framers (E-mail)
Subject: Distinguishing markers

Some of my documents have Index markers, Reference markers, and other
markers all located such that you cannot see more than a single marker
on the screen.  The central way to determine how many markers there are
is to count how many times the cursor fails to move each time you press
an arrow key.  Is there a way to make the markers display distinctly so
you can distinguish them, if only temporarily?

Please CC: me off list as well as on-list.

Thanks,

--Doug
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Distinguishing markers

2007-11-01 Thread Stuart Rogers
Doug wrote:
> Some of my documents have Index markers, Reference markers, and other
> markers all located such that you cannot see more than a single marker
> on the screen.  The central way to determine how many markers there
> are is to count how many times the cursor fails to move each time you
> press an arrow key.  Is there a way to make the markers display
> distinctly so you can distinguish them, if only temporarily?

Not that I know of.  However, if the Marker window is open when your 
cursor is on a marker, the type of marker will be displayed in the 
Marker window.

If you have IXGen, you can expand (display) or collapse the text content 
of markers by marker type.  If you don't have IXGen or another 
marker-management plug-in, you should buy one; it'll pay for itself the 
first time you use it.

HTH,

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Fixing Numbers in PDF Bookmarks

2007-11-01 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I think the soft return is the simplest and most elegant solution.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



William Abernathy wrote:
> Here's an annoyance I'm stumped on. I've been working on updating my 
> group's template, which is a unification of two work groups' templates.
>
> One group had chapter title paragraph tags that addressed chapter 
> numbering with  a simple auto-number, after which the writer was 
> required to enter a soft (linefeed) return to enter the chapter title. 
> The other group had a special frame on the First master page that 
> contained the chapter number, which would appear automatically, with 
> writers simply required to enter the chapter title in the adjacent 
> title line field. I proposed a simple alternative, which eliminated 
> the first group's required user input and the complexity of the second 
> group's extra master pages and paragraph tags. This was to use a 
> Chapter title paragraph tag that had the chapter number, a tab, and 
> the text.
>
> Would that life were so simple.
>
> The group decided that for readability, the chapter/appendix number 
> and the text should appear on the right margin. FrameMaker does not 
> like line feeds in the autonumber fields, so I accomplished this by 
> cunning subterkludge: I defined the Chapter and Appendix paragraph 
> tags as:
> "C:<$chapnum>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>[ and 46 spaces ]"
>
> The 46 spaces forced a new line, everything stuck to the right margin, 
> and peace and love ruled the stars...
>
> Until we output the thing to PDF. [Frame 7.x outputting to PDF 5.0 
> using Distiller 7.0 on Windows XP]
>
> The space-forced line feed results in repeated chapter numbers in the 
> PDF bookmarks. For example:
>
> 1 1 Chapter Title
> A A Appendix Title
>
> Does anyone know alternatives for:
> * Forcing a line feed in a chapter-heading paragraph format?
> * Suppressing this bizarre repeated numbering?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --William
>
>
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radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Technical Writer

There are situations in which being a full-time employee is more advantageous 
than being a contractor. I don't know that training would be one of them, 
because a lot depends on the quality of training, and how transferrable the 
skills are. It also depends on how close a fit the training is for the learning 
style of the learner. 

Only 10 jobs in 18+ years? That is an impressive record for a contractor. It 
may be that there are different shades of meaning in our interpretations of the 
term "contractor." 
http://www.tekwrytrs.com/Specializing in the Design, Development, and 
Production of:Technical Documentation - Online Content - Enterprise Websites> 
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:57:49 -0700> From: jposada01 at yahoo.com> Subject: 
RE: radical revamping of techpubs> To: tekwrytr at hotmail.com; athloi at 
yahoo.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com> > > Contract exclusively, 
preferably three- to six-month. Contractors> > tend to be more fully focused on 
task completion, and doing the job> > right, both of which suit my inclinations 
perfectly. "Full-time"> > work becomes more a social issue, in which the most 
importance is> > Allow mw to offer a different perspective without disputing 
what> Chris says, except to say it's not as black and white as he makes it> out 
to be.> > > Why would anyone with experience as a manager want a developer or> 
> tech writer position? More jobs, more opportunities, less hassle,> > less 
effort. Lots of IT people switch from doer to manager and> > back. Keeps up the 
job interest, keeps it challenging, a myriad of> > reasons. Most work as 
contractors, and politely decline offers of> > "full-time" work as the 
equivalent of being purchased as a "wage> > slave" by an organization that 
clearly understands it can more> > easily manipulate its employees than it can 
manipulate contractors.> > A gold star, an Employee-of-the-Month certificate, 
recognition,> > congratulations on a job well-done, flattery, perhaps even a> > 
favored parking spot for a month--have meaning only to those many> > 
contractors refer to as "lifers."> > I was a contractor for 18+ years at over 
10 gigs with some> blue-ribbon companies, so I think I paid my 
contractor-dues.> > Yes, as an employee, there is the gold star, certificates, 
corporate> culture/drinking the koolaid mentality and sometimes, the cover of> 
the corporate magazine (me in this quarter). I can take that stuff or> leave 
it.> > I'm currently an employee of a Fortune 500 IT company; EMC (two years> 
this coming April). Why did I jump the fence? I'd heard that EMC was> strong on 
training. So, while I churn out user guides, installation> manuals, and such, I 
can also take advantage of a wide range of> training opportunities that I would 
not have been able to afford.> What kind of training? > - ITIL Foundation 
Certification> - Six Sigma Greenbelt with a project in the works> - UML 
courses> - Human Factors courses> - DITA and Usability bootcamps> - UNIX and 
Linux college courses> - The ability to set corporate standards through online 
help and 508> standards committes> - others> > All 100% paid while working from 
home 4-5 days a week.> > Granted...not all companies offer opportunities. 
However, find the> right one and you can take advantage of things they offer as 
they do> so with you.> > John Posada> Senior Technical Writer> > "They say 
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radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread Technical Writer

It is almost comical to see a job description that stresses "knowledge of 
project management," apparently a euphemism for "we have to work 70 hours a 
week withut extra compensation to make the deadline," when the same job tends 
to exclude those with experience as PMs. 
http://www.tekwrytrs.com/Specializing in the Design, Development, and 
Production of:Technical Documentation - Online Content - Enterprise Websites> 
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:45:03 -0700> From: athloi at yahoo.com> Subject: RE: 
radical revamping of techpubs> To: tekwrytr at hotmail.com> > I've seen the 
same thing. It's too bad, because a tech writer with> those skills is more 
likely to understand the development process in my> view.> > --- Technical 
Writer  wrote:> > > Similarly, if you have spent the 
last three or four> > years as a project manager, and are now applying for a 
developer or> > tech writer position, you are almost guaranteed to be 
considered a> > potential adversary, sight unseen.> > > > Why would anyone with 
experience as a manager want a developer or> > tech writer position?> > 
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radical revamping of techpubs

2007-11-01 Thread John Posada
> There are situations in which being a full-time employee is more
> advantageous than being a contractor. I don't know that training
> would be one of them, because a lot depends on the quality of
> training, and how transferrable the skills are. It also depends on
> how close a fit the training is for the learning style of the
> learner. 

It was my criteria for taking the F/T position.

> Only 10 jobs in 18+ years? That is an impressive record for a
> contractor. It may be that there are different shades of meaning in
> our interpretations of the term "contractor." 

If I work for an agency and report to a third party, to me that is a
contractor. Is that not interpretted as a contractor?

I always made the determination that I would not discuss gigs that
were planned for less than six months and several gigs went close to
two years. It was almost normal that my contract was extended
multiple times.


John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"They say everyone needs goals. Mine is to live forever.
So far, so good."



Easy find for soft Returns?

2007-11-01 Thread Paul Pehrson
Is there an easy way to search through a Frame book to find places where
I've inserted a soft return and replace it with text?

I know Frame's Find/Change window is quite powerful, but I'm not sure which
combination of options to choose to find the item I'm looking for.

Thanks!


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