RE: publishing problems for Kazakh

[Anneke von den Hoff]

Hi Art,

Thank you for your response to my message.
I have installed the font on all locations I could think of, and the Acrobat 
set-up knows all of them. 
(I always assumed that when my software knows the font, the printer does 
also)

But the character still don't print.
The funny thing is that it is just only 1 character from the font that is 
resulting in a blanc. 
All other typical Kazakh characters from the font are printed. It is as if the 
printer cannot access this character in the font, that it is in an illegal 
position (if this is at least possible??). 
I am really puzzeled here.

Best regards
Anneke




-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: donderdag 29 mei 2008 13:46
To: Anneke von den Hoff
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: publishing problems for Kazakh

It could be a font file error, but it sounds to me as if Acrobat may
not have access to the same fonts that FM does.
In your Acrobat set up, there's a font location item. Make sure that
all font directories. Also, make sure that Acrobat is set as the
system's default printer, to eliminate the possiblity that
printer-specific fonts are being invoked.

Art

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Anneke von den Hoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Framers,



 I hope there is someone out there who can help me…

 I am publishing a document in Kazakh language in Structured FrameMaker7.2 in 
 combination with a CMS.

 For Russian and sort-like languages I use Arial Cyr, with a unicode mapping 
 table



 Kazakh uses some extended cyrillic characters not supported by Arial CYR.

 (Бұл жалпы шолу бөлімі қолдану барысында тағамдарыңызды пісіру және 
 қайнатудың )



 I use PragmaticaI to publish Kazakh, and in FrameMaker it works fine (I must 
 admit that mapping the small character (қ) was not possible….).

 But when I print this document to printer or to file (PDF) two charactes (Қ 
 and қ)  don't publish, they leave a blanc.

 Now I have no idea what causes this, and more important how to solve this.



 Is there anyoune who has some experience with this?

 Is my font not correct? Does anyone know about another font?



 Thanks in advance!



 Anneke Von den Hoff




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unresolved x-ref to a heading in a text inset

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

Hello

 

2 different manuals use the same text inset and each of them have an
x-ref to the same heading in the text inset.

 

Whenever I open one manual and solve the unresolved x-ref, the other
manual will get an unresolved x-ref to that heading.

 

How do you suggest that I solve this?

 

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Re: Basic question- Visio to Frame

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

The OLE linking of Visio files has worked well for me.
I have tried PDF-ing the Visio and EPS-ing that in Acrobat. It
sometimes works and sometimes crashes FM, like a couple of days since.
I then saved the Visio as AutoCad and opened that in Illustrator, made
some changes and EPS-ed that. No crash now on this graphic.

The downside of the OLE linking is that FM will pause paging when it
hits the link and while loading the graphic, which can be a bit
annoying.

Bodvar

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Combs, Richard
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 Art Campbell wrote:

 The accepted way to do this was to import Visio files as OLE objects,
 however OLE didn't always work reliably, especially if you were doing
 several files. Just lately, after installing XP SP3, even that limited
 method quit working for me and several others who have reported
 problems.

 If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
 format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.

 I think if you check the archives, you'll find as much or more criticism
 of using OLE as acceptance.

 As for saving Visio drawings in a graphic format, the problem in the
 past has been that most of Visio's export filters (including WMF and
 EPS) weren't very good (I don't know if that's changed in Visio 2007).
 Also, many people unwisely save those nice scalable vector graphics in a
 raster (bitmap) format like PNG.

 I've been using a Visio  PDF  FM process for some time and strongly
 recommend it. If you have a recent full version of Acrobat (6-8, I
 believe) and it was installed after Visio (2000-2007, I believe), you'll
 have PDFMaker available in Visio, just like in Word, and making PDFs is
 a one-click procedure. Multi-page Visio files turn into multi-page PDFs.


 In FM, import the PDF by reference (select the page you want, if
 necessary). When you edit the Visio file, just click the PDF button, and
 let the path/name default to the one you used the last time you did
 this. The next time you open the FM doc, you'll see the new version.

 HTH!
 Richard


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Underlined Superscripts

[Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC]

Hello FrameManiacs,

 

How does one underline a word with an offset (superscript or subscript)
character and keep the underline from offsetting with the character? Is
this possible?

 

TIA,

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Re: Basic question- Visio to Frame

[Rene Stephenson]

We deliver mostly PDFs, and the majority of our customers work from printed 
(via laser printer, not press) PDFs, not the electronic file. We only use Visio 
for flowcharts and schematic diagrams -- just the simple line stuff.  Almost 
all of our technical drawings are sourced in CorelDRAW 12, and somehow the way 
FM
handles the imported hi-res TIF, the resized graphics in FM don't seem to lose
anything detectable. We originally tried to use EPS, but we had so many 
problems trying to get the EPS exported from Visio or from DRAW that our team 
began using TIF, because it seemed to be the only export filter that was 
working rather reliably and importing rather reliably no matter where we 
sourced (in DRAW, Visio, AI, CPT, FullShot, SnagIt, etc.) or used the graphic 
(typically in FM, but often output via WWP or PDF, and sometimes sourced in 
Word or DRAW).

But, we aren't sending the books to a professional press operation. This may be 
why we can get away with doing it this way. I'll definitely recheck some of 
the Visio drawings in the end-user PDF, though.

We use several graphics management plugins to handle bulk resize, shrinkwrap, 
or scale operations, so it gets problematic if we have a ton of white space 
around a graphic. One thing we like about TIF over PDF is that we don't have a 
lot of white space to hide with the anchored frame, so the shrinkwrap or scale 
bulk operations don't hose up the pagination.

Of course, I solicit best practice information from all parties on this list, 
so please don't hesitate to tell me where we're screwing up.  ;-)

 
Rene L. Stephenson




- Original Message 
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Rene Stephenson wrote:

 I've been successfully exporting TIF files from Visio and just
importing
 that into FM by reference. 

If you're delivering only printed docs and use a sufficiently high
resolution for your TIFFs, it may work OK. But if you deliver PDFs, you
might want to check the diagrams in the PDFs at some
higher-magnification zoom settings. 

Richard
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Re: Basic question- Visio to Frame

[Steve Rickaby]

At 05:07 -0700 30/5/08, Rene Stephenson wrote:

Of course, I solicit best practice information from all parties on this 
list, so please don't hesitate to tell me where we're screwing up.  ;-)

I don't think you are, Rene, you've found what works for you and gone with it. 
Folks are correct in principle in saying that a vector graphics format such as 
.eps is preferable for line art, and that dumping to PDF and importing that 
into FrameMaker can often avoid a lot of problems. However, a large 
high-resolution TIFF scaled down on import may well give you the graphics 
quality you require. The acid test is, as Richard Combs commented, to look at 
the final PDF of a sample graphic under high magnification. As you mention 
SnagIt, I would also say that TIFF is our preferred format for screen grabs.

I can echo the various reports about the poor quality of output from the 
various filters that come with Visio from personal experience. In the past we 
have had to resort to extensive retouching (in Illustrator) of Visio .eps and 
.wmf files: typical problems included arcs and circles that had been 
interpreted as multiple straight-line segments, objects moving their locations 
and general lack of precision of placement, as if the format translation had 
been done with insufficient mathematical precision. Some stuff coming out of 
Visio was really bad, but the native Visio diagrams looked fine.

-- 
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XP Service Patch 3 prevents referencing Visios in Frame 7.2

[Fausset, Marilyn]

I don't know if this has been answered, but I just lost lots of time
until Adobe support told me about this (on my second call to them). With
XP Service Patch 3, you cannot save Frame files with updated referenced
Visios. You get a backup file with the Visio grayed out and the message:
An internal error occurred while writing imported graphics in this
document. The file has been saved, but has lost some image data. Please
report this error to Adobe Technical support.

You can uninstall XP SP3 from the Control Panel if you check the Updates
option to display it. I hope this saves somebody some time.

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Re: XP Service Patch 3 prevents referencing Visios in Frame 7.2

[Stuart Rogers]

Fausset, Marilyn wrote:
 I don't know if this has been answered, but I just lost lots of time
 until Adobe support told me about this (on my second call to them). With
 XP Service Patch 3, you cannot save Frame files with updated referenced
 Visios. You get a backup file with the Visio grayed out and the message:
 An internal error occurred while writing imported graphics in this
 document. The file has been saved, but has lost some image data. Please
 report this error to Adobe Technical support.
 
 You can uninstall XP SP3 from the Control Panel if you check the Updates
 option to display it. I hope this saves somebody some time.


Anyone contemplating installing XP SP3 should also know that there can 
be severe conflicts between that service pack and several antivirus 
programs, notably Norton/Symantec.  Check your AV software 
manufacturer's Web site for advisories, and proceed with caution.


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deleting reference pages

[Mollye Barrett]

   Hello Framers!

   I have 1500+ unstructured Frame files and each contains 11  
incorrect reference pages. Is there a way to expediently remove  
reference pages without opening and closing each file?

   Any help will be appreciated!

   Thanks,Mollye

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Re: publishing problems for Kazakh

[Stuart Rogers]

Anneke von den Hoff wrote:

 (I always assumed that when my software knows the font, the printer does 
 also)
 

It's the other way around.

What Art was warning you about is that some printer drivers will report 
to your PC the fonts that are installed on the physical printer, and the 
PC will treat those fonts as if they are installed on the PC -- except 
of course, such fonts cannot be embedded in a PDF.  Setting Acrobat as 
your default printer eliminates the possibility of problems from that 
source.

If you want to have a physical printer as your default in programs other 
than Framemaker, I recommend the Setprint plug-in from Sundorne:

http://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm

HTH,

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Re: deleting reference pages

[Art Campbell]

You could use a utility plugin such as CleanImport to impose a new
template (with the correct ref pages).
And you can use it in a book, if you want to create a book or books to
manage the files.

And you could probably do it with a FrameScript too.

Art

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Mollye Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   Hello Framers!

   I have 1500+ unstructured Frame files and each contains 11
 incorrect reference pages. Is there a way to expediently remove
 reference pages without opening and closing each file?

   Any help will be appreciated!

   Thanks,Mollye

   Mollye Barrett
 ClearPath, LLC
 content management solutions
 www.clearpath.cc
 414-331-1378 (cell)

 Director, Marketing Communications
 Content Management Professionals
 www.cmprofessionals.org
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RE: XP Service Patch 3 prevents referencing Visios in Frame 7.2

[Dan Gallagher]

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Re: XP Service Patch 3 prevents referencing Visios in Frame 7.2

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Our IT staff say there are lots of other incompatiblities in SP3 with
older software and that they are not going for it until it has been
out for approx. a full year. (I hate to say this, but it seems a lot
like with FM 8, as predicted by so many in June last year. Sorry,
Adobe, sad but true, I'm afraid.)

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Re: deleting reference pages

[Mollye Barrett]

   Thanks Art...works like a charm. Just replaced the refence pages on  
the first 50 test files. I created a book of all the files and will  
finish the rest shortly!

   Smiling,
MollyeQuoting Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 You could use a utility plugin such as CleanImport to impose a new
 template (with the correct ref pages).
 And you can use it in a book, if you want to create a book or books to
 manage the files.

 And you could probably do it with a FrameScript too.

 Art

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    Hello Framers!

    I have 1500+ unstructured Frame files and each contains 11
 incorrect reference pages. Is there a way to expediently remove
 reference pages without opening and closing each file?

    Any help will be appreciated!

    Thanks,Mollye

    Mollye Barrett
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 content management solutions
 www.clearpath.cc
 414-331-1378 (cell)

 Director, Marketing Communications
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Running Header in a Continued File?

[Pat Fortino]

Hi,

Unfortunately, I can't search the archives, but I'm sure this question has been 
answered. 

I am using fm 8.x windows xp:

I
have a chapter that is split into two files to allow for landscape
pages that occur later. I am using a running header to capture the
chapter title and display it in the header. Of course, it works fine in
the first file because it contains the chapter title p tag. But in the
second file, the running header does not work. I assumed this would
work like numbering and frame would look for the last occurrence of
that tag and use it, but it doesn't.

Is there any automatic way
to do this; eg, split a chapter into multiple files and have automatic
running headers that display the chapter p tag? Otherwise, I will have
to manually enter the running header in this chapter and several others
which use the same configuration. Seems like a clunky solution :(

BTW:
What happened to the framer's web site? I cannot search through the
thousands of answers that I know are available somewhere. Also, why are
we still using a list serve when a forum would be a lot more user
friendly and search-able? Again, I'm sure this has been discussed too,
but I can't search the archives. Or can I?

Thanks
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Re: Running Header in a Continued File?

[Art Campbell]

I'd create a variable to hold the chapter title string and then invoke
that in both the Chapter Title p-tag and the header.

Art


On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Pat Fortino
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 Hi,

 Unfortunately, I can't search the archives, but I'm sure this question has 
 been answered.

 I am using fm 8.x windows xp:

 I
 have a chapter that is split into two files to allow for landscape
 pages that occur later. I am using a running header to capture the
 chapter title and display it in the header. Of course, it works fine in
 the first file because it contains the chapter title p tag. But in the
 second file, the running header does not work. I assumed this would
 work like numbering and frame would look for the last occurrence of
 that tag and use it, but it doesn't.

 Is there any automatic way
 to do this; eg, split a chapter into multiple files and have automatic
 running headers that display the chapter p tag? Otherwise, I will have
 to manually enter the running header in this chapter and several others
 which use the same configuration. Seems like a clunky solution :(

 BTW:
 What happened to the framer's web site? I cannot search through the
 thousands of answers that I know are available somewhere. Also, why are
 we still using a list serve when a forum would be a lot more user
 friendly and search-able? Again, I'm sure this has been discussed too,
 but I can't search the archives. Or can I?

 Thanks
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RE: Running Header in a Continued File?

[Combs, Richard]

Pat Fortino wrote:


 What happened to the framer's web site? I cannot search through the
 thousands of answers that I know are available somewhere. Also, why
are
 we still using a list serve when a forum would be a lot more user
 friendly and search-able? Again, I'm sure this has been discussed too,
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You can use Google to search the archives. Enter search string
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RE: unresolved x-ref to a heading in a text inset

[Tammy Van Boening]

Verner,

Cross-references with text insets are tricky. X-refs to text insets
require that the container file be specified for the inset. Since the
inset is in two different manuals (Manual A and Manual B), when you set
a reference to the inset in Manual A, then Manual A's file name and
location become part of that x-reference, so that's why the x-ref
becomes unresolved for Manual B. Conversely, when you set a reference to
the inset in Manual B, then  Manual B's file name and location become
part of that x-reference, so that's why the x-ref becomes unresolved for
Manual A. There are a variety of ways to solve this (framescript,
manually making two x-refs with conditional text, etc.) but the most
consistent and easiest way is NOT to have headings in insets. Keep the
headings in the container file and import the inset less the heading.
This way, you can set up x-refs to headings to two different manuals as
you would always in FM and not have this problem.

Let me know if you need any more help.

TVB

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Subject: unresolved x-ref to a heading in a text inset

Hello

 

2 different manuals use the same text inset and each of them have an
x-ref to the same heading in the text inset.

 

Whenever I open one manual and solve the unresolved x-ref, the other
manual will get an unresolved x-ref to that heading.

 

How do you suggest that I solve this?

 

Best regards,

 

Verner Andersen


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Akandevej 21
DK-2700 Bronshoj
Denmark
Phone: +45 38 27 38 27
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Is there a quick switch from structure to non-structure?

[Harold Winberg]

Hello Framers

 

I have a question. I will try to make it simple. As usual, we are in a
mess again.

 

We have a book that is mix of structure and non-structure (Don't ask
why). We want to generate an index but the mix gives us a problem
generating. I get a message that it can't open x file because it is
structure and then fails to generate.

 

We have made a copy of the book so as not to ruin the original.

 

OUESTION:

 

Is there a simple way to pull the structure out of the whole book?

 

I think that would leave the old tags and let us generate the index
normally.

 

Thanks 

 

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Re: Is there a quick switch from structure to non-structure?

[Bill Swallow]

Just switch FM to structured mode. You can leave the structured stuff
alone, and the unstructured stuff will peacefully coexist.

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 Is there a simple way to pull the structure out of the whole book?

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Re: Is there a quick switch from structure to non-structure?

[Don Rinderknecht]

Hi Les,

When I generate a book, I manually open all of the files first. 
(Shift-File  Open All Files in Book)
Maybe that will help in this situation.
(Although I haven't generated a book with both structured and 
non-structured files yet.)

Thanks,
Don

Harold Winberg wrote:
 Hello Framers

  

 I have a question. I will try to make it simple. As usual, we are in a
 mess again.

  

 We have a book that is mix of structure and non-structure (Don't ask
 why). We want to generate an index but the mix gives us a problem
 generating. I get a message that it can't open x file because it is
 structure and then fails to generate.

  

 We have made a copy of the book so as not to ruin the original.

  

 OUESTION:

  

 Is there a simple way to pull the structure out of the whole book?

  

 I think that would leave the old tags and let us generate the index
 normally.

  

 Thanks 

  

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Help for Tracking Api Client warning dialog on FM 8 launch

[Valerie Lipow]

When launching Framemaker, a message dialog with the following content
displays:

Uninstalled copy of the Tracking Api Client! Please install it before using.
[OK]

I have searched the Web and the Adobe forum and support sites to find what
plug-in this refers to. I can't find anything I can recognize in maker.ini
to change.

The message when closed on OK has no effect I'm aware of in using Frame.
Still, the behavior is annoying, and I'd like to resolve it.

If someone knows what this refers to, please advise. Thanks!

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Question about colors for the numbering of a paragraph ...

[Syed.Hosain]

Using FM 8 on a Windows system.

Can the color of the auto-numbering text be different from the color of
the text in the body of the paragraph?

Clearly, I want this to be part of the paragraph design in the catalog,
so that whenever I apply that format onto a given paragraph of text, the
auto-number text is put in automatically (that is normally what happens)
... but in a different color (can't seem to see a setting for this)!

Thanks!

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RE: Question about colors for the numbering of a paragraph ...

[Fred Ridder]

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 auto-number text is put in automatically (that is normally what happens)
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The key to formatting an autonumber string (whether numerical or text)
differently than the rest of the paragraph is to define a character style
that you include as part of the autonumber definition. To change just 
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publishing problems for Kazakh

[Anneke von den Hoff]

Hi Art,

Thank you for your response to my message.
I have installed the font on all locations I could think of, and the Acrobat 
set-up knows all of them. 
(I always assumed that when my software knows the font, the printer does 
also)

But the character still don't print.
The funny thing is that it is just only 1 character from the font that is 
resulting in a blanc. 
All other typical Kazakh characters from the font are printed. It is as if the 
printer cannot access this character in the font, that it is in an illegal 
position (if this is at least possible??). 
I am really puzzeled here.

Best regards
Anneke




-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: donderdag 29 mei 2008 13:46
To: Anneke von den Hoff
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: publishing problems for Kazakh

It could be a font file error, but it sounds to me as if Acrobat may
not have access to the same fonts that FM does.
In your Acrobat set up, there's a font location item. Make sure that
all font directories. Also, make sure that Acrobat is set as the
system's default printer, to eliminate the possiblity that
printer-specific fonts are being invoked.

Art

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Anneke von den Hoff
 wrote:
> Hello Framers,
>
>
>
> I hope there is someone out there who can help me?
>
> I am publishing a document in Kazakh language in Structured FrameMaker7.2 in 
> combination with a CMS.
>
> For Russian and sort-like languages I use Arial Cyr, with a unicode mapping 
> table
>
>
>
> Kazakh uses some extended cyrillic characters not supported by Arial CYR.
>
> (??? ?  ?? ??? ? ?? ??  
> ?? )
>
>
>
> I use PragmaticaI to publish Kazakh, and in FrameMaker it works fine (I must 
> admit that mapping the small character (?) was not possible?.).
>
> But when I print this document to printer or to file (PDF) two charactes (? 
> and ?)  don't publish, they leave a blanc.
>
> Now I have no idea what causes this, and more important how to solve this.
>
>
>
> Is there anyoune who has some experience with this?
>
> Is my font not correct? Does anyone know about another font?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
> Anneke Von den Hoff
>
>
>

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unresolved x-ref to a heading in a text inset

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

Hello



2 different manuals use the same text inset and each of them have an
x-ref to the same heading in the text inset.



Whenever I open one manual and solve the unresolved x-ref, the other
manual will get an unresolved x-ref to that heading.



How do you suggest that I solve this?



Best regards,



Verner Andersen


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Akandevej 21 
DK-2700 Bronshoj 
Denmark 
Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
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Basic question- Visio to Frame

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

The OLE linking of Visio files has worked well for me.
I have tried PDF-ing the Visio and EPS-ing that in Acrobat. It
sometimes works and sometimes crashes FM, like a couple of days since.
I then saved the Visio as AutoCad and opened that in Illustrator, made
some changes and EPS-ed that. No crash now on this graphic.

The downside of the OLE linking is that FM will pause paging when it
hits the link and while loading the graphic, which can be a bit
annoying.

Bodvar

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Combs, Richard
 wrote:
> Art Campbell wrote:
>
>> The accepted way to do this was to import Visio files as OLE objects,
>> however OLE didn't always work reliably, especially if you were doing
>> several files. Just lately, after installing XP SP3, even that limited
>> method quit working for me and several others who have reported
>> problems.
>>
>> If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
>> format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.
>
> I think if you check the archives, you'll find as much or more criticism
> of using OLE as acceptance.
>
> As for saving Visio drawings in a graphic format, the problem in the
> past has been that most of Visio's export filters (including WMF and
> EPS) weren't very good (I don't know if that's changed in Visio 2007).
> Also, many people unwisely save those nice scalable vector graphics in a
> raster (bitmap) format like PNG.
>
> I've been using a Visio > PDF > FM process for some time and strongly
> recommend it. If you have a recent full version of Acrobat (6-8, I
> believe) and it was installed after Visio (2000-2007, I believe), you'll
> have PDFMaker available in Visio, just like in Word, and making PDFs is
> a one-click procedure. Multi-page Visio files turn into multi-page PDFs.
>
>
> In FM, import the PDF by reference (select the page you want, if
> necessary). When you edit the Visio file, just click the PDF button, and
> let the path/name default to the one you used the last time you did
> this. The next time you open the FM doc, you'll see the new version.
>
> HTH!
> Richard
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
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Underlined Superscripts

[Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC]

Hello FrameManiacs,



How does one underline a word with an offset (superscript or subscript)
character and keep the underline from offsetting with the character? Is
this possible?



TIA,

Darren



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Basic question- Visio to Frame

[Rene Stephenson]

We deliver mostly PDFs, and the majority of our customers work from printed 
(via laser printer, not press) PDFs, not the electronic file. We only use Visio 
for flowcharts and schematic diagrams -- just the simple line stuff.  Almost 
all of our technical drawings are sourced in CorelDRAW 12, and somehow the way 
FM
handles the imported hi-res TIF, the resized graphics in FM don't seem to lose
anything detectable. We originally tried to use EPS, but we had so many 
problems trying to get the EPS exported from Visio or from DRAW that our team 
began using TIF, because it seemed to be the only export filter that was 
working rather reliably and importing rather reliably no matter where we 
sourced (in DRAW, Visio, AI, CPT, FullShot, SnagIt, etc.) or used the graphic 
(typically in FM, but often output via WWP or PDF, and sometimes sourced in 
Word or DRAW).

But, we aren't sending the books to a professional press operation. This may be 
why we can "get away with" doing it this way. I'll definitely recheck some of 
the Visio drawings in the end-user PDF, though.

We use several graphics management plugins to handle bulk resize, shrinkwrap, 
or scale operations, so it gets problematic if we have a ton of white space 
around a graphic. One thing we like about TIF over PDF is that we don't have a 
lot of white space to hide with the anchored frame, so the shrinkwrap or scale 
bulk operations don't hose up the pagination.

Of course, I solicit "best practice" information from all parties on this list, 
so please don't hesitate to tell me where we're screwing up.  ;-)


Rene L. Stephenson




- Original Message 
From: "Combs, Richard" 

Rene Stephenson wrote:

> I've been successfully exporting TIF files from Visio and just
importing
> that into FM by reference. 

If you're delivering only printed docs and use a sufficiently high
resolution for your TIFFs, it may work OK. But if you deliver PDFs, you
might want to check the diagrams in the PDFs at some
higher-magnification zoom settings. 

Richard

Basic question- Visio to Frame

[Steve Rickaby]

At 05:07 -0700 30/5/08, Rene Stephenson wrote:

>Of course, I solicit "best practice" information from all parties on this 
>list, so please don't hesitate to tell me where we're screwing up.  ;-)

I don't think you are, Rene, you've found what works for you and gone with it. 
Folks are correct in principle in saying that a vector graphics format such as 
.eps is preferable for line art, and that dumping to PDF and importing that 
into FrameMaker can often avoid a lot of problems. However, a large 
high-resolution TIFF scaled down on import may well give you the graphics 
quality you require. The acid test is, as Richard Combs commented, to look at 
the final PDF of a sample graphic under high magnification. As you mention 
SnagIt, I would also say that TIFF is our preferred format for screen grabs.

I can echo the various reports about the poor quality of output from the 
various filters that come with Visio from personal experience. In the past we 
have had to resort to extensive retouching (in Illustrator) of Visio .eps and 
.wmf files: typical problems included arcs and circles that had been 
interpreted as multiple straight-line segments, objects moving their locations 
and general lack of precision of placement, as if the format translation had 
been done with insufficient mathematical precision. Some stuff coming out of 
Visio was really bad, but the native Visio diagrams looked fine.

-- 
Steve

XP Service Patch 3 prevents referencing Visios in Frame 7.2

[Fausset, Marilyn]

I don't know if this has been answered, but I just lost lots of time
until Adobe support told me about this (on my second call to them). With
XP Service Patch 3, you cannot save Frame files with updated referenced
Visios. You get a backup file with the Visio grayed out and the message:
"An internal error occurred while writing imported graphics in this
document. The file has been saved, but has lost some image data. Please
report this error to Adobe Technical support."

You can uninstall XP SP3 from the Control Panel if you check the Updates
option to display it. I hope this saves somebody some time.

Marilyn Fausset
Technical Writer
Storage Networking Industry Association
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XP Service Patch 3 prevents referencing Visios in Frame 7.2

[Stuart Rogers]

Fausset, Marilyn wrote:
> I don't know if this has been answered, but I just lost lots of time
> until Adobe support told me about this (on my second call to them). With
> XP Service Patch 3, you cannot save Frame files with updated referenced
> Visios. You get a backup file with the Visio grayed out and the message:
> "An internal error occurred while writing imported graphics in this
> document. The file has been saved, but has lost some image data. Please
> report this error to Adobe Technical support."
> 
> You can uninstall XP SP3 from the Control Panel if you check the Updates
> option to display it. I hope this saves somebody some time.


Anyone contemplating installing XP SP3 should also know that there can 
be severe conflicts between that service pack and several antivirus 
programs, notably Norton/Symantec.  Check your AV software 
manufacturer's Web site for advisories, and proceed with caution.


-- 
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deleting reference pages

[Mollye Barrett]

   Hello Framers!

   I have 1500+ unstructured Frame files and each contains 11  
incorrect reference pages. Is there a way to expediently remove  
reference pages without opening and closing each file?

   Any help will be appreciated!

   Thanks,Mollye

   Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
content management solutions
www.clearpath.cc
414-331-1378 (cell)

Director, Marketing Communications
Content Management Professionals
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XP Service Patch 3 prevents referencing Visios in Frame 7.2

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

I had serious difficulties with XP SP3 and PC Tools Spyware Doctor -
*after* they (PC Tools) sent me an upgrade to work with XP SP3! My
computer became impossibly  slow - keystrokes took *many* seconds
(sometimes minutes) to show on the screen if you to switched between
different apps or windows.

Didn't have time to debug the issue, so, after a few hours of trying to
fix the problem, I removed Spyware Doctor for now ... luckily
BitDefender Anti-virus is working without problems.

Z

> -Original Message-
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> Stuart Rogers
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:34 AM
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: XP Service Patch 3 prevents referencing Visios in Frame
7.2
> 
> Fausset, Marilyn wrote:
> > I don't know if this has been answered, but I just lost lots of time
> > until Adobe support told me about this (on my second call to them).
With
> > XP Service Patch 3, you cannot save Frame files with updated
referenced
> > Visios. You get a backup file with the Visio grayed out and the
message:
> > "An internal error occurred while writing imported graphics in this
> > document. The file has been saved, but has lost some image data.
Please
> > report this error to Adobe Technical support."
> >
> > You can uninstall XP SP3 from the Control Panel if you check the
Updates
> > option to display it. I hope this saves somebody some time.
> 
> 
> Anyone contemplating installing XP SP3 should also know that there can
> be severe conflicts between that service pack and several antivirus
> programs, notably Norton/Symantec.  Check your AV software
> manufacturer's Web site for advisories, and proceed with caution.

publishing problems for Kazakh

[Stuart Rogers]

Anneke von den Hoff wrote:

> (I always assumed that when my software knows the font, the printer does 
> also)
> 

It's the other way around.

What Art was warning you about is that some printer drivers will report 
to your PC the fonts that are installed on the physical printer, and the 
PC will treat those fonts as if they are installed on the PC -- except 
of course, such fonts cannot be embedded in a PDF.  Setting Acrobat as 
your default printer eliminates the possibility of problems from that 
source.

If you want to have a physical printer as your default in programs other 
than Framemaker, I recommend the Setprint plug-in from Sundorne:

http://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm

HTH,

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deleting reference pages

[Art Campbell]

You could use a utility plugin such as CleanImport to impose a new
template (with the correct ref pages).
And you can use it in a book, if you want to create a book or books to
manage the files.

And you could probably do it with a FrameScript too.

Art

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Mollye Barrett  wrote:
>
>
>   Hello Framers!
>
>   I have 1500+ unstructured Frame files and each contains 11
> incorrect reference pages. Is there a way to expediently remove
> reference pages without opening and closing each file?
>
>   Any help will be appreciated!
>
>   Thanks,Mollye
>
>   Mollye Barrett
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XP Service Patch 3 prevents referencing Visios in Frame 7.2

[Dan Gallagher]

http://windowssecrets.com/comp/080529/

XP Service Patch 3 prevents referencing Visios in Frame 7.2

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Our IT staff say there are lots of other incompatiblities in SP3 with
older software and that they are not going for it until it has been
out for approx. a full year. (I hate to say this, but it seems a lot
like with FM 8, as predicted by so many in June last year. Sorry,
Adobe, sad but true, I'm afraid.)

Bodvar
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deleting reference pages

[Mollye Barrett]

   Thanks Art...works like a charm. Just replaced the refence pages on  
the first 50 test files. I created a book of all the files and will  
finish the rest shortly!

   Smiling,
MollyeQuoting Art Campbell :

> You could use a utility plugin such as CleanImport to impose a new
> template (with the correct ref pages).
> And you can use it in a book, if you want to create a book or books to
> manage the files.
>
> And you could probably do it with a FrameScript too.
>
> Art
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Mollye Barrett  
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> ? ?Hello Framers!
>>
>> ? ?I have 1500+ unstructured Frame files and each contains 11
>> incorrect reference pages. Is there a way to expediently remove
>> reference pages without opening and closing each file?
>>
>> ? ?Any help will be appreciated!
>>
>> ? ?Thanks,Mollye
>>
>> ? ?Mollye Barrett
>> ClearPath, LLC
>> content management solutions
>> www.clearpath.cc
>> 414-331-1378 (cell)
>>
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Running Header in a Continued File?

[Pat Fortino]

Hi,

Unfortunately, I can't search the archives, but I'm sure this question has been 
answered. 

I am using fm 8.x windows xp:

I
have a chapter that is split into two files to allow for landscape
pages that occur later. I am using a running header to capture the
chapter title and display it in the header. Of course, it works fine in
the first file because it contains the chapter title p tag. But in the
second file, the running header does not work. I assumed this would
work like numbering and frame would look for the last occurrence of
that tag and use it, but it doesn't.

Is there any automatic way
to do this; eg, split a chapter into multiple files and have automatic
running headers that display the chapter p tag? Otherwise, I will have
to manually enter the running header in this chapter and several others
which use the same configuration. Seems like a clunky solution :(

BTW:
What happened to the framer's web site? I cannot search through the
thousands of answers that I know are available somewhere. Also, why are
we still using a list serve when a forum would be a lot more user
friendly and search-able? Again, I'm sure this has been discussed too,
but I can't search the archives. Or can I?

Thanks
 Pat Fortino
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Running Header in a Continued File?

[Art Campbell]

I'd create a variable to hold the chapter title string and then invoke
that in both the Chapter Title p-tag and the header.

Art


On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Pat Fortino
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Unfortunately, I can't search the archives, but I'm sure this question has 
> been answered.
>
> I am using fm 8.x windows xp:
>
> I
> have a chapter that is split into two files to allow for landscape
> pages that occur later. I am using a running header to capture the
> chapter title and display it in the header. Of course, it works fine in
> the first file because it contains the chapter title p tag. But in the
> second file, the running header does not work. I assumed this would
> work like numbering and frame would look for the last occurrence of
> that tag and use it, but it doesn't.
>
> Is there any automatic way
> to do this; eg, split a chapter into multiple files and have automatic
> running headers that display the chapter p tag? Otherwise, I will have
> to manually enter the running header in this chapter and several others
> which use the same configuration. Seems like a clunky solution :(
>
> BTW:
> What happened to the framer's web site? I cannot search through the
> thousands of answers that I know are available somewhere. Also, why are
> we still using a list serve when a forum would be a lot more user
> friendly and search-able? Again, I'm sure this has been discussed too,
> but I can't search the archives. Or can I?
>
> Thanks
>  Pat Fortino
> writenowdesign.com
>
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unresolved x-ref to a heading in a text inset

[Tammy Van Boening]

Verner,

Cross-references with text insets are tricky. X-refs to text insets
require that the container file be specified for the inset. Since the
inset is in two different manuals (Manual A and Manual B), when you set
a reference to the inset in Manual A, then Manual A's file name and
location become part of that x-reference, so that's why the x-ref
becomes unresolved for Manual B. Conversely, when you set a reference to
the inset in Manual B, then  Manual B's file name and location become
part of that x-reference, so that's why the x-ref becomes unresolved for
Manual A. There are a variety of ways to solve this (framescript,
manually making two x-refs with conditional text, etc.) but the most
consistent and easiest way is NOT to have headings in insets. Keep the
headings in the container file and import the inset less the heading.
This way, you can set up x-refs to headings to two different manuals as
you would always in FM and not have this problem.

Let me know if you need any more help.

TVB

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Verner Engell VEA
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:46 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: unresolved x-ref to a heading in a text inset

Hello



2 different manuals use the same text inset and each of them have an
x-ref to the same heading in the text inset.



Whenever I open one manual and solve the unresolved x-ref, the other
manual will get an unresolved x-ref to that heading.



How do you suggest that I solve this?



Best regards,



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Running Header in a Continued File?

[Fred Ridder]

Pat Fortino wrote:

>Hi Fred,
>
>Thanks for the reply. The reason I am splitting the chapters is 
>that our chapters start out as portrait for several pages and 
>then go to landscape. Because I don't know when the break 
>will be, I want to use automatic left/right pages to assign the 
>landscape pages which go on for 40 some pages.
>
>I guess any way I do it, it will require manual intervention to 
>make it work.
>
>I think the $volnum variable as text might solve the problem.

Another approach that might work for you is to make the 
landscape pages the default left/right master pages and the 
handful of portrait pages be the manually-assigned non-default
cases. Once this is set up, the only time you'd have to futz
with it is if the number of introductory portrait pages changes;
the number of landscape pages can expand or contract as 
necessary with no further attention because they use the default.

-FR


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Is there a quick switch from structure to non-structure?

[Harold Winberg]

Hello Framers



I have a question. I will try to make it simple. As usual, we are in a
mess again.



We have a book that is mix of structure and non-structure (Don't ask
why). We want to generate an index but the mix gives us a problem
generating. I get a message that it can't open x file because it is
structure and then fails to generate.



We have made a copy of the book so as not to ruin the original.



OUESTION:



Is there a simple way to pull the structure out of the whole book?



I think that would leave the old tags and let us generate the index
normally.



Thanks 



Les



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Is there a quick switch from structure to non-structure?

[Bill Swallow]

Just switch FM to structured mode. You can leave the structured stuff
alone, and the unstructured stuff will peacefully coexist.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Harold Winberg
 wrote:
> We have a book that is mix of structure and non-structure (Don't ask
> why). We want to generate an index but the mix gives us a problem
> generating. I get a message that it can't open x file because it is
> structure and then fails to generate.
>
> Is there a simple way to pull the structure out of the whole book?
>
> I think that would leave the old tags and let us generate the index
> normally.

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Is there a quick switch from structure to non-structure?

[Don Rinderknecht]

Hi Les,

When I generate a book, I manually open all of the files first. 
(Shift-File > Open All Files in Book)
Maybe that will help in this situation.
(Although I haven't generated a book with both structured and 
non-structured files yet.)

Thanks,
Don

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>  
>
> We have a book that is mix of structure and non-structure (Don't ask
> why). We want to generate an index but the mix gives us a problem
> generating. I get a message that it can't open x file because it is
> structure and then fails to generate.
>
>  
>
> We have made a copy of the book so as not to ruin the original.
>
>  
>
> OUESTION:
>
>  
>
> Is there a simple way to pull the structure out of the whole book?
>
>  
>
> I think that would leave the old tags and let us generate the index
> normally.
>
>  
>
> Thanks 
>
>  
>
> Les
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Help for Tracking Api Client warning dialog on FM 8 launch

[Valerie Lipow]

When launching Framemaker, a message dialog with the following content
displays:

Uninstalled copy of the Tracking Api Client! Please install it before using.
[OK]

I have searched the Web and the Adobe forum and support sites to find what
plug-in this refers to. I can't find anything I can recognize in maker.ini
to change.

The message when closed on OK has no effect I'm aware of in using Frame.
Still, the behavior is annoying, and I'd like to resolve it.

If someone knows what this refers to, please advise. Thanks!

-- 
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Question about colors for the numbering of a paragraph ...

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Using FM 8 on a Windows system.

Can the color of the auto-numbering text be different from the color of
the text in the body of the paragraph?

Clearly, I want this to be part of the paragraph design in the catalog,
so that whenever I apply that format onto a given paragraph of text, the
auto-number text is put in automatically (that is normally what happens)
... but in a different color (can't seem to see a setting for this)!

Thanks!

Z

Running Header in a Continued File?

[Pat Fortino]

Thanks Mike. That works really well!

 Pat Fortino
writenowdesign.com

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- Original Message 
From: Mike Wickham 
To: Pat Fortino 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:03:08 AM
Subject: Re: Running Header in a Continued File?

Pat,

Someone recently mentioned that google can search the frameusers site. Just 
append site:frameusers.com to your search term.

Mike Wickham

Running Header in a Continued File?

[Pat Fortino]

Hi Fred,

Thanks for the reply. The reason I am splitting the chapters is that our 
chapters start out as portrait for several pages and then go to landscape. 
Because I don't know when the break will be, I want to use automatic left/right 
pages to assign the landscape pages which go on for 40 some pages.

I guess any way I do it, it will require manual intervention to make it work.

I think the $volnum variable as text might solve the problem.

 Pat Fortino
writenowdesign.com

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- Original Message 
From: Fred Ridder 
To: Pat Fortino 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:24:19 AM
Subject: RE: Running Header in a Continued File?

 In addition to the other replies, which suggested the use of a 
variable for the chapter title and addressed the archive issue,
I wanted to add a couple of points.

First, there is no need to split a chapter into two to accommodate
a combination of portrait and landscape pages. (I think that notion 
is a carry-over from MS Word, where you do indeed need to use
section breaks to change page layout.) In FrameMaker you just 
define an additional pair of master pages for the landscape layout
and then assign those master pages (either manually or by mapping
them to certain paragraph styles) to the appropriate pages.

Second, if you are not already using them, you can use the 
$chapnum and/or $volnum system variables to be able to define 
the chapter titles from the book file. All you would need to do is 
enter the appropriate text string as the "number" format in the
book's Numbering properties sheet.

-FR

> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 07:54:19 -0700
> From: patfortino at writenowdesign.com
> Subject: Running Header in a Continued File?
> To: Framers at FrameUsers.com
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Unfortunately, I can't search the archives, but I'm sure this question has 
> been answered. 
> 
> I am using fm 8.x windows xp:
> 
> I
> have a chapter that is split into two files to allow for landscape
> pages that occur later. I am using a running header to capture the
> chapter title and display it in the header. Of course, it works fine in
> the first file because it contains the chapter title p tag. But in the
> second file, the running header does not work. I assumed this would
> work like numbering and frame would look for the last occurrence of
> that tag and use it, but it doesn't.
> 
> Is there any automatic way
> to do this; eg, split a chapter into multiple files and have automatic
> running headers that display the chapter p tag? Otherwise, I will have
> to manually enter the running header in this chapter and several others
> which use the same configuration. Seems like a clunky solution :(
> 
> BTW:
> What happened to the framer's web site? I cannot search through the
> thousands of answers that I know are available somewhere. Also, why are
> we still using a list serve when a forum would be a lot more user
> friendly and search-able? Again, I'm sure this has been discussed too,
> but I can't search the archives. Or can I?
> 
> Thanks
> Pat Fortino
> writenowdesign.com
> 
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