Repair corrupted FM file?
Hi I have a fm 7.2 fm file with an old template which works fine. I have the same file converted to FM 8 with a whole new temlate which apparently is corrupted. When I press carriage return the cusor stop at page 40, inserts a line above the cursor and I cannot press carriage return anymore - the cursor is stuck at the bottom. The file has been written on a German Framemaker and updated on an English Framemaker. Converting to .mif and opening in Framemaker does not change anything. Is there a tool that can repair Framemaker files or do you have anoter suggestion? Of course I can the old fm 7.2 to version 8 and put on a new template - but this is quite a job. Med venlig hilsen - Best regards Verner Andersen Technical Writer Radiometer Medical ApS Phone +45 3827 3612 Fax +45 3827 2727 verner.ander...@radiometer.dk Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re Checkboxes in Numbered Lists
Doug, Your query... How do I integrate a checkbox (i.e., Wingding open square) into the Autonumber format code so that each step also has a check box for indicating completion? I do this in a two-cell table; the first cell of a row contains the checkbox and the second cell of each row contains the numbered paragraph. Cheryl Dwyer Industrial Medium Software, Inc. McLean, VA 22102 730-286-0820 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Checkboxes in numbered lists
Hi Doug Oops, having read your question again, I see that you want the checkbox and the autonumber too. That presents a problem, since you can only have the one character format applied to the autonumber scheme, and the Wingdings char format would be applied to the number (not what you want). Perhaps the only way, as Cheryl suggested, is to put it in a table. Roger -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shuttleworth, Roger Sent: December 18, 2008 8:55 AM To: Eaton, Doug; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Checkboxes in numbered lists Hello Doug 1. Create a character format that uses the Wingdings font. 2. Determine which keyboard key gives you the open square that you want. 3. Define your numbered paragraph format. On the Numbering tab, check the Autonumber Format box. 4. In the autonumber field, type the keyboard character that will give you the checkbox, followed by \t for a tab. 5. Select the Wingdings character format that you created. 4. Click Update All. The checkbox will appear whenever you use the paragraph format. Hope this helps. Roger Shuttleworth London, Canada -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Eaton, Doug Sent: December 17, 2008 10:08 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Checkboxes in numbered lists How do I integrate a checkbox (i.e., Wingding open square) into the Autonumber format code so that each step also has a check box for indicating completion? The final product will appear as follows: Checkbox1. Step 1... Checkbox2. Step 2... etc. ~~ Doug Eaton Technical Communications Sensis Corporation 315.634.7284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as roger_shuttlewo...@tvworks.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/roger_shuttleworth%40tvworks.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as roger_shuttlewo...@tvworks.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/roger_shuttleworth%40tvworks.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Checkboxes in numbered lists
I've found the way Yves describes to provide the most flexibility in my documents...it is another paragraph tag AND I've found I end up needing a table and *get* to fight with the table-in-a-table challenges. So I would definitely second this approach, even tho I agree with Cheryl's table suggestion! I actually ran into this requirement a couple of weeks ago and my client dearly wanted to have the items tagged using one paragraph tag...couldn't get it to happen since the numbers came out in some kind of gibberish! Happy holidays to all and blessings for a wonderful 2009. Jerilynne On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.comwrote: Indeed, Cheryl's suggestion is a good one, but there is also another way: 1. Create a dedicated paratag (checkbox) for the check box, with Wingdings or Zapf Dingbats as a character tag for the autonumbering. 2. Make the checkbox a run-in head (Paragraph Designer Pagination Run-in Head. 3. For checkbox, specify that the regular step paratag must be the next paratag (Paragraph Designer Basic tab Next Pgf Tag: step). 4. For the step paratag, specify that checkbox should be the next paratag. You will get check boxes and steps alternatively as you press ENTER. The advantage of this approach is that you can easily insert tables in your steps. You can also insert tables in tables in FM, but this takes a bit of gymnastics. I have tested this and it seems to work nicely. If you need the fm file to see how it has been done, just drop me an e-mail. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Checkboxes in numbered lists
Hi Doug, What is your final deliverable? If you are producing PDF files, you can use TimeSavers (www.microtype.com) and markers to have checkboxes automatically appear in the PDF file. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com How do I integrate a checkbox (i.e., Wingding open square) into the Autonumber format code so that each step also has a check box for indicating completion? The final product will appear as follows: Checkbox1. Step 1... Checkbox2. Step 2... etc. ~~ Doug Eaton Technical Communications Sensis Corporation 315.634.7284 ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Identifying overrides
Hi Nancy If you get a message about overrides when switching from Master Pages to Body Pages, these overrides are on the text frame(s), not in the paratags. For example, you may have changed the size of the body page text frames a bit, or changed the column width, so the body pages no longer match the master pages. However, if you do the following, you should no longer get a message about overrides: 1. Go to the Master Pages. 2. Go back to the Body Pages and select Remove Overrides. 3. Do not change anything on the Body Pages. 4. Go back to the Master Pages. 5. Go back to the Body Pages: no messages about overrides? Cheers -- Yves Barbion • Managing Director • Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu • skype: yves.barbion ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Identifying overrides
Sadly, this does not work. If I flip back and forth between Master and Body pages, and select Remove Overrides each time, and change nothing on the body pages, I get the Remove Overrides prompt each time. Also if I save after removing the overrides, and also if I reapply the master pages to the file. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Identifying overrides
Have you cleaned up the file by saving as MIF and reopening that version? Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote: Sadly, this does not work. If I flip back and forth between Master and Body pages, and select Remove Overrides each time, and change nothing on the body pages, I get the Remove Overrides prompt each time. Also if I save after removing the overrides, and also if I reapply the master pages to the file. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Identifying overrides
I've been struggling with just this problem. I solved it by 1. Inserting a disconnected page (Special Add Disconnected Pages) that uses the same Master Page as the misbehaving body page, 2. Copying the text from the bad body page into the new body page, and 3. Deleting the old body page. You may then need to connect the body page flow of the new body page to the other body pages. I think the way to do that is to select Autoconnect in the object properties of the frame of the new body page. Eli. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:34 PM To: Yves Barbion Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Identifying overrides Sadly, this does not work. If I flip back and forth between Master and Body pages, and select Remove Overrides each time, and change nothing on the body pages, I get the Remove Overrides prompt each time. Also if I save after removing the overrides, and also if I reapply the master pages to the file. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as ehare...@checkpoint.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ehareven%40checkpoint.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Scanned by Check Point Total Security Gateway. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Identifying overrides
Hi Nancy, Follow these steps on a copy of your document. 1) Click somewhere in the main text flow. 2) Choose Edit Select All In Flow (Control+A). 3) Cut the selection to the clipboard using Edit Cut (Control+X). 4) Choose Special Delete Pages. Delete all of the pages in the document. You should now be viewing the master pages. 5) Choose View Body Pages. You will be prompted to add a Body Page; click OK. 6) Click an insertion point in the new body page and choose Edit Paste (Control+V). See if this fixes the override problem. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Identifying overrides
Hello, all. Have gotten caught up in minutiae but didn't want to leave this discussion hanging, since you have all been so helpful. I have given up temporarily on the overrides stuff, since there are more basic things I must fix. Anybody know how to replace tags at the book level? I've replaced some cryptic tags with descriptive names. I do not want to replace them chapter by chapter (total of 20 chapters), by going into the Paragraph Designer and using the Global replace option for each of the 12 tags. I'd much much rather do it at the book level. Possible? Thanks again, very much. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Identifying overrides
Use either Import Formats at the book level (In the Book file, File Import Formats), or the CleanImport plug-in (better for most applications, because it isn't additive). Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote: Hello, all. Have gotten caught up in minutiae but didn't want to leave this discussion hanging, since you have all been so helpful. I have given up temporarily on the overrides stuff, since there are more basic things I must fix. Anybody know how to replace tags at the book level? I've replaced some cryptic tags with descriptive names. I do not want to replace them chapter by chapter (total of 20 chapters), by going into the Paragraph Designer and using the Global replace option for each of the 12 tags. I'd much much rather do it at the book level. Possible? Thanks again, very much. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Identifying overrides
No, darlin, I've already used the CleanImports plug-in. It deleted all the old tags and imported my nice, clean, understandably-named tags. *However,* the text in the files remains tagged with the old tags. They're just not in the catalog any more. I still have to replace them with my beautiful new tags, and I'd prefer not to do it chapter-by-chapter. I will try the plug-in someone recommended. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Art Campbell wrote: Use either Import Formats at the book level (In the Book file, File Import Formats), or the CleanImport plug-in (better for most applications, because it isn't additive). ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Identifying overrides
OK... Set up one of the paragraphs with the correct para format. Then: Copy Special Para Format. SR for a para tag with the old tag name, and replace by Pasting. Make sure the Book option is checked in the SR dialog to define your range. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote: No, darlin, I've already used the CleanImports plug-in. It deleted all the old tags and imported my nice, clean, understandably-named tags. *However,* the text in the files remains tagged with the old tags. They're just not in the catalog any more. I still have to replace them with my beautiful new tags, and I'd prefer not to do it chapter-by-chapter. I will try the plug-in someone recommended. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Art Campbell wrote: Use either Import Formats at the book level (In the Book file, File Import Formats), or the CleanImport plug-in (better for most applications, because it isn't additive). ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Identifying overrides
And don't forget Rick Quattro's Find/Change Special plugin, well worth the $30 I paid for it. [http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm] [Standard disclaimer: No association other than a happy customer of several of Mr. Quattro's plugins. They rock.] On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: OK... Set up one of the paragraphs with the correct para format. Then: Copy Special Para Format. SR for a para tag with the old tag name, and replace by Pasting. Make sure the Book option is checked in the SR dialog to define your range. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Identifying overrides
Oh, you clever fellow! It WORKS! Thankee! On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Art Campbell wrote: OK... Set up one of the paragraphs with the correct para format. Then: Copy Special Para Format. SR for a para tag with the old tag name, and replace by Pasting. Make sure the Book option is checked in the SR dialog to define your range. Art ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: framemaker does not skip missing graphics
On 17 Dec 2008 at 11:09, John Posada wrote: Do you use the same script on the workstation that behaves? I'm asking because your problem is openning files and that's what your script does, so there seems that there might be a relationship between the two. Thanks for Your reply, On the workstation I do not need a script to open FM files (silently) with missing graphics. FM behaves and allows me to skip individual or all missing graphics. On the laptop this skipping is not possible. I can only - either forget about the work and postpone it to the wokstation - set up a temp book with the file(s) to be opened and use the script from itl Open all files in book silently. I have no clue what's the reason for this. Klaus Daube http://mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin verpassen. Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper Phone: +41-44-422 86 25 FAX: +41-44-422 82 78 E-mail: d...@daube.ch Web: www.daube.ch/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Tab issue with FrameMaker 8
blamb...@comcast.net wrote: The tab mark is there, and I checked to make sure that all of the definitions in the Paragraph Designer were the same for all (tab position and leader type). ... Something I have noticed with right tabulation: FM may trap into rounding errors (at least in the metric world). If you have a tab position R 18.0cm and a text frame 18.0cm wide it may happen that the tab is not performed. In such cases I just set the tab position to 17.95 cm, which is not visible. FM works internally with an unknown unit of measure (it may be a MIL = 0.001 inch, but I am not certain) FWIW Klaus Daube http://mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin verpassen. Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper Phone: +41-44-422 86 25 FAX: +41-44-422 82 78 E-mail: d...@daube.ch Web: www.daube.ch/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re:Checkboxes in numbered lists
Hello Doug, You can use FrameMaker to do this, but the implementation is awful. The problem is that FrameMaker doesn't provide a GUI like Word does to insert symbols, so you have to do it manually. In addition, the checkbox and the numbered steps will have to be separate from one another. You will have to use an invisible table to obtain the format you want. Note these steps only work in Windows as far as I know. With that said, here goes. 1. Use the character designer to create a new character format. Name the format Wingding. 2. In the Wingding format, specify the Family as Wingdings. Every other setting should be set as-is or left as default. 3. Create a generic paragraph style that has properties similar to Body. Call this paragraph style Checkmak. 4. In the Checkmark paragraph style, select the numbered tab. 5. If this is not already done so, select the Autonumber format check box. In the Character Format list, select the Wingding check mark that you created in the above steps. 6. Do NOT close the paragraph designer. 7. Minimize FrameMaker. 8. Select All Programs Accessories System Tools Character Maps. 9. In the Character Map window, there is a Font drop-down menu. From that drop-down menu, select Wingdings. 10. You will see several check boxes. Click one of the boxes you like. It will pop out. When that happens, press the select button. 11. You should see the character in the Characters to Copy field. Press the copy button. This means that the code for this character has been copied to your clipboard. This is a code that FrameMaker can read. 12. Maximize FrameMaker. 13. In the paragraph designer, paste the check box code into the Autonumber format field. After you have done that, you should have a bulleted paragraph style that creates a check mark next to each bullet point. Now, to acheive the layout you seek, create an invsible table that consists of two columns. Then, apply the Checkmark paragraph style to the first column and the numbered steps in the adjacent one. -- Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzini ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: correct symbol to use
Thanks, I have gone with "1(a)...(c)" for now, but you are right, "1(a) to 1(c)" is more correct. I do like that idea though Stuart, how about 1(a...c)? Cheers Alan On 18/12/2008, at 5:24 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote: > Alan Litchfield wrote: >> Quick off-topic question, >> If you have in a line of text something like "to any of 1 (a)-(c)", >> is this >> more correctly set as "to any of 1 (a)...(c)"? >> Cheers >> Alan > > I'd second Fei Min's suggestion of "to any of 1(a) to 1(c)," but > otherwise suggest: > "to any of 1 (a-c)" > where "-" is an en-dash. > > -- > Stuart Rogers > Technical Communicator > Phoenix Geophysics Limited > Toronto, ON, Canada > +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 > > srogers phoenix-geophysics com > > "A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?" > > --another Rogers Original -- Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140 http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
PDF to PDF Links on Linux
What pdf viewer are you using on Linux? Does it work on Unix? Alan On 17/12/2008, at 9:46 AM, jdeland1 at comcast.net wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I just joined, have only used FM for 9 months, and have been around > and around this issue with Adobe. We want to distribute our PDFs to > Linux, Windows, and Unix. They work as shown below on Windows 32- > bit and -64 bit versions of XP and Vista Business. > > > > I am using gotolink [folder name]/myotherfile.fm:[linkname], but > gotolink [folder name]/myotherfile.pdf:[linkname] works more often > than the fm extension does. Here is my "test script": > > > link one = gotolink ./genh_toc.fm:one (OK on Windows, FAIL on Linux) > link two = gotolink genh_toc.fm:one (OK on Windows, FAIL on Linux) > link three = gotolink ./genh_toc.pdf:one (OK on Windows, FAIL on > Linux) > link four = gotolink genh_toc.pdf:one (OK on Windows, PASS on Linux) > link five = openlink genh_toc.pdf:firstpage (OK on Windows, PASS on > Linux) > link six = openlink genh_toc.pdf:1 (OK on Windows, FAIL on Linux) > link seven = openlink ./genh_toc.pdf:firstpage (OK on Windows, FAIL > on Linux) > link eight = openlink genh_toc.fm:1 (OK on Windows, FAIL on Linux) > > > I am not using a relative path, because the PDFs are all in the same > directory. I have tried the relative path on Linux with ".\" but it > made no difference on our test machine. > > > And of course I have a deadline that's approaching fast. > > > > Help? -- Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140 http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
Repair corrupted FM file?
Hi I have a fm 7.2 fm file with an old template which works fine. I have the same file converted to FM 8 with a whole new temlate which apparently is corrupted. When I press carriage return the cusor stop at page 40, inserts a line above the cursor and I cannot press carriage return anymore - the cursor is stuck at the bottom. The file has been written on a German Framemaker and updated on an English Framemaker. Converting to .mif and opening in Framemaker does not change anything. Is there a tool that can repair Framemaker files or do you have anoter suggestion? Of course I can the old fm 7.2 to version 8 and put on a new template - but this is quite a job. Med venlig hilsen - Best regards Verner Andersen Technical Writer Radiometer Medical ApS Phone +45 3827 3612 Fax +45 3827 2727 verner.andersen at radiometer.dk Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email.
Re Checkboxes in Numbered Lists
Doug, Your query... "How do I integrate a checkbox (i.e., Wingding open square) into the Autonumber format code so that each step also has a check box for indicating completion?" I do this in a two-cell table; the first cell of a row contains the checkbox and the second cell of each row contains the numbered paragraph. Cheryl Dwyer Industrial Medium Software, Inc. McLean, VA 22102 730-286-0820
Checkboxes in numbered lists
Hello Doug 1. Create a character format that uses the Wingdings font. 2. Determine which keyboard key gives you the open square that you want. 3. Define your numbered paragraph format. On the Numbering tab, check the Autonumber Format box. 4. In the autonumber field, type the keyboard character that will give you the checkbox, followed by \t for a tab. 5. Select the Wingdings character format that you created. 4. Click Update All. The checkbox will appear whenever you use the paragraph format. Hope this helps. Roger Shuttleworth London, Canada -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Eaton, Doug Sent: December 17, 2008 10:08 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Checkboxes in numbered lists How do I integrate a checkbox (i.e., Wingding open square) into the Autonumber format code so that each step also has a check box for indicating completion? The final product will appear as follows: Checkbox1. Step 1... Checkbox2. Step 2... etc. ~~ Doug Eaton Technical Communications Sensis Corporation 315.634.7284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Roger_Shuttleworth at tvworks.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/roger_shuttleworth%40tvworks.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Checkboxes in numbered lists
Hi Doug Oops, having read your question again, I see that you want the checkbox and the autonumber too. That presents a problem, since you can only have the one character format applied to the autonumber scheme, and the Wingdings char format would be applied to the number (not what you want). Perhaps the only way, as Cheryl suggested, is to put it in a table. Roger -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shuttleworth, Roger Sent: December 18, 2008 8:55 AM To: Eaton, Doug; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Checkboxes in numbered lists Hello Doug 1. Create a character format that uses the Wingdings font. 2. Determine which keyboard key gives you the open square that you want. 3. Define your numbered paragraph format. On the Numbering tab, check the Autonumber Format box. 4. In the autonumber field, type the keyboard character that will give you the checkbox, followed by \t for a tab. 5. Select the Wingdings character format that you created. 4. Click Update All. The checkbox will appear whenever you use the paragraph format. Hope this helps. Roger Shuttleworth London, Canada -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Eaton, Doug Sent: December 17, 2008 10:08 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Checkboxes in numbered lists How do I integrate a checkbox (i.e., Wingding open square) into the Autonumber format code so that each step also has a check box for indicating completion? The final product will appear as follows: Checkbox1. Step 1... Checkbox2. Step 2... etc. ~~ Doug Eaton Technical Communications Sensis Corporation 315.634.7284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Roger_Shuttleworth at tvworks.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/roger_shuttleworth%40tvworks.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Roger_Shuttleworth at tvworks.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/roger_shuttleworth%40tvworks.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Checkboxes in numbered lists
Indeed, Cheryl's suggestion is a good one, but there is also another way:
1. Create a dedicated paratag ("checkbox") for the check box, with
Wingdings or Zapf Dingbats as a character tag for the autonumbering.
2. Make the checkbox a run-in head (Paragraph Designer > Pagination >
Run-in Head.
3. For checkbox, specify that the regular "step" paratag must be the next
paratag (Paragraph Designer > Basic tab > Next Pgf Tag: step).
4. For the "step" paratag, specify that checkbox should be the next
paratag.
You will get check boxes and steps alternatively as you press ENTER.
The advantage of this approach is that you can easily insert tables in your
steps. You can also insert tables in tables in FM, but this takes a bit of
"gymnastics".
I have tested this and it seems to work nicely. If you need the fm file to
see how it has been done, just drop me an e-mail.
Cheers
--
Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Shuttleworth, Roger <
Roger_Shuttleworth at tvworks.com> wrote:
> Hi Doug
>
> Oops, having read your question again, I see that you want the checkbox and
> the autonumber too. That presents a problem, since you can only have the
> one character format applied to the autonumber scheme, and the Wingdings
> char format would be applied to the number (not what you want). Perhaps the
> only way, as Cheryl suggested, is to put it in a table.
>
> Roger
>
>
Checkboxes in numbered lists
I've found the way Yves describes to provide the most flexibility in my
documents...it is another paragraph tag AND I've found I end up needing a
table and *get* to fight with the table-in-a-table challenges. So I would
definitely second this approach, even tho I agree with Cheryl's table
suggestion!
I actually ran into this requirement a couple of weeks ago and my client
dearly wanted to have the items tagged using one paragraph tag...couldn't
get it to happen since the numbers came out in some kind of gibberish!
Happy holidays to all and blessings for a wonderful 2009.
Jerilynne
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:
> Indeed, Cheryl's suggestion is a good one, but there is also another way:
>
> 1. Create a dedicated paratag ("checkbox") for the check box, with
> Wingdings or Zapf Dingbats as a character tag for the autonumbering.
> 2. Make the checkbox a run-in head (Paragraph Designer > Pagination >
> Run-in Head.
> 3. For checkbox, specify that the regular "step" paratag must be the next
> paratag (Paragraph Designer > Basic tab > Next Pgf Tag: step).
> 4. For the "step" paratag, specify that checkbox should be the next
> paratag.
>
> You will get check boxes and steps alternatively as you press ENTER.
>
> The advantage of this approach is that you can easily insert tables in your
> steps. You can also insert tables in tables in FM, but this takes a bit of
> "gymnastics".
>
> I have tested this and it seems to work nicely. If you need the fm file to
> see how it has been done, just drop me an e-mail.
>
>
Checkboxes in numbered lists
Hi Doug, What is your final deliverable? If you are producing PDF files, you can use TimeSavers (www.microtype.com) and markers to have checkboxes automatically appear in the PDF file. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > How do I integrate a checkbox (i.e., Wingding open square) into the > Autonumber format code so that each step also has a check box for > indicating completion? > > The final product will appear as follows: > > Checkbox1. Step 1... > > Checkbox2. Step 2... > > etc. > > > ~~ > Doug Eaton > Technical Communications > Sensis Corporation > > 315.634.7284 > ___
Identifying overrides
Still working on my template. I've whittled down the tags for my Index file to only those that are used in the file. When I switch from the Master page to the Body page of my Index file, I get a message that there are overrides on every page. I always say "Remove overrides," but the next time I switch between Master and Body pages, I get the same message. When I use the File/Utilities/Overrides function, which Frame says is the way to identify the problem, my catalogs do indeed fill up with new tag names -- but they are tags used all over the document and NOT in my Index file. This happens even if I have closed all other files and the book file itself. I don't know why that's happening, and it's useless to me since none of those tags is used in the Index. Is there some clever way to output to a MIF file to identify the real overrides? You see, I'm learning! Or, do you have any other insights into why Frame tells me there are overrides, and how I can eliminate them?
Identifying overrides
Hi Nancy If you get a message about overrides when switching from Master Pages to Body Pages, these overrides are on the text frame(s), not in the paratags. For example, you may have changed the size of the body page text frames a bit, or changed the column width, so the body pages no longer match the master pages. However, if you do the following, you should no longer get a message about overrides: 1. Go to the Master Pages. 2. Go back to the Body Pages and select Remove Overrides. 3. Do not change anything on the Body Pages. 4. Go back to the Master Pages. 5. Go back to the Body Pages: no messages about overrides? Cheers -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion
Identifying overrides
Sadly, this does not work. If I flip back and forth between Master and Body pages, and select "Remove Overrides" each time, and change nothing on the body pages, I get the "Remove Overrides" prompt each time. Also if I save after removing the overrides, and also if I reapply the master pages to the file.
Identifying overrides
Have you cleaned up the file by saving as MIF and reopening that version? Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Nancy Allison wrote: > Sadly, this does not work. If I flip back and forth between Master and > Body pages, and select "Remove Overrides" each time, and change nothing > on the body pages, I get the "Remove Overrides" prompt each time. > > Also if I save after removing the overrides, and also if I reapply the > master pages to the file. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Identifying overrides
I've been struggling with just this problem. I solved it by 1. Inserting a disconnected page (Special > Add Disconnected Pages) that uses the same Master Page as the misbehaving body page, 2. Copying the text from the "bad" body page into the new body page, and 3. Deleting the old body page. You may then need to connect the body page flow of the new body page to the other body pages. I think the way to do that is to select Autoconnect in the object properties of the frame of the new body page. Eli. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:34 PM To: Yves Barbion Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Identifying overrides Sadly, this does not work. If I flip back and forth between Master and Body pages, and select "Remove Overrides" each time, and change nothing on the body pages, I get the "Remove Overrides" prompt each time. Also if I save after removing the overrides, and also if I reapply the master pages to the file. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as ehareven at checkpoint.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ehareven%40checkpoint.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Scanned by Check Point Total Security Gateway.
Identifying overrides
Hi Nancy, Follow these steps on a copy of your document. 1) Click somewhere in the main text flow. 2) Choose Edit > Select All In Flow (Control+A). 3) Cut the selection to the clipboard using Edit > Cut (Control+X). 4) Choose Special > Delete Pages. Delete all of the pages in the document. You should now be viewing the master pages. 5) Choose View > Body Pages. You will be prompted to add a Body Page; click OK. 6) Click an insertion point in the new body page and choose Edit > Paste (Control+V). See if this fixes the override problem. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com
Identifying overrides
Hello, all. Have gotten caught up in minutiae but didn't want to leave this discussion hanging, since you have all been so helpful. I have given up temporarily on the overrides stuff, since there are more basic things I must fix. Anybody know how to replace tags at the book level? I've replaced some cryptic tags with descriptive names. I do not want to replace them chapter by chapter (total of 20 chapters), by going into the Paragraph Designer and using the Global replace option for each of the 12 tags. I'd much much rather do it at the book level. Possible? Thanks again, very much. --Nancy
Identifying overrides
Use either Import > Formats at the book level (In the Book file, File > Import > Formats), or the CleanImport plug-in (better for most applications, because it isn't additive). Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Nancy Allison wrote: > > Hello, all. Have gotten caught up in minutiae but didn't want to leave > this discussion hanging, since you have all been so helpful. I have > given up temporarily on the overrides stuff, since there are more basic > things I must fix. > > Anybody know how to replace tags at the book level? I've replaced some > cryptic tags with descriptive names. I do not want to replace them > chapter by chapter (total of 20 chapters), by going into the Paragraph > Designer and using the Global replace option for each of the 12 tags. > I'd much much rather do it at the book level. > > Possible? > > Thanks again, very much. > > --Nancy > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Identifying overrides
No, darlin, I've already used the CleanImports plug-in. It deleted all the old tags and imported my nice, clean, understandably-named tags. *However,* the text in the files remains tagged with the old tags. They're just not in the catalog any more. I still have to replace them with my beautiful new tags, and I'd prefer not to do it chapter-by-chapter. I will try the plug-in someone recommended. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > Use either Import > Formats at the book level (In the Book file, File >> Import > Formats), or the CleanImport plug-in (better for most > applications, because it isn't additive). >
Identifying overrides
OK... Set up one of the paragraphs with the correct para format. Then: Copy Special > Para Format. S for a para tag with the old tag name, and replace by Pasting. Make sure the Book option is checked in the S dialog to define your range. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Nancy Allison wrote: > > No, darlin, I've already used the CleanImports plug-in. It deleted all the > old tags and imported my nice, clean, understandably-named tags. > > *However,* the text in the files remains tagged with the old tags. They're > just not in the catalog any more. I still have to replace them with my > beautiful new tags, and I'd prefer not to do it chapter-by-chapter. I will > try the plug-in someone recommended. > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > >> Use either Import > Formats at the book level (In the Book file, File >>> >>> Import > Formats), or the CleanImport plug-in (better for most >> >> applications, because it isn't additive). >> >
Identifying overrides
And don't forget Rick Quattro's Find/Change Special plugin, well worth the $30 I paid for it. [http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm] [Standard disclaimer: No association other than a happy customer of several of Mr. Quattro's plugins. They rock.] On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > OK... > Set up one of the paragraphs with the correct para format. > > Then: > Copy Special > Para Format. > S for a para tag with the old tag name, and replace by Pasting. > > Make sure the Book option is checked in the S dialog to define your range. -- Lin Sims
Identifying overrides
Oh, you clever fellow! It WORKS! Thankee! On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > OK... Set up one of the paragraphs with the correct para format. Then: Copy Special > Para Format. S for a para tag with the old tag name, and replace by Pasting. Make sure the Book option is checked in the S dialog to define your range. Art
framemaker does not skip missing graphics
On 17 Dec 2008 at 11:09, John Posada wrote: > Do you use the same script on the workstation that behaves? > > I'm asking because your problem is openning files and that's what your > script does, so there seems that there might be a relationship between > the two. Thanks for Your reply, On the workstation I do not need a script to open FM files (silently) with missing graphics. FM behaves and allows me to skip individual or all missing graphics. On the laptop this skipping is not possible. I can only - either forget about the work and postpone it to the wokstation - set up a temp book with the file(s) to be opened and use the script from itl "Open all files in book silently". I have no clue what's the reason for this. Klaus Daube http://mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin verpassen. Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper Phone: +41-44-422 86 25 FAX: +41-44-422 82 78 E-mail: ddd at daube.ch Web: www.daube.ch/
Pulling a "custom" page number into a TOC or Index
I am building a book in FM 8 (on a XP Pro machine). At the end of the book I have a chapter that is a Glossary, and several chapters that will serve as Appendices. I would like the first page of the Glossary to be numbered "Glossary-1". I can make this appear on the page by editing the footer on the Master Pages. However, when I run the TOC update, it only pulls the "1". It leaves the "Glossary-" off. I have been reading through the User Guide that comes with FM 8 and I am not seeing any instructions for doing this. Any suggestions? Thanks, Brian
Tab issue with FrameMaker 8
blamborn at comcast.net wrote: > >> The tab mark is there, and I checked to make sure that all of the > >> definitions in the Paragraph Designer were the same for all (tab > >> position and leader type). ... Something I have noticed with right tabulation: FM may trap into rounding errors (at least in the metric world). If you have a tab position R 18.0cm and a text frame 18.0cm wide it may happen that the tab is not performed. In such cases I just set the tab position to 17.95 cm, which is not visible. FM works internally with an unknown unit of measure (it may be a MIL = 0.001 inch, but I am not certain) FWIW Klaus Daube http://mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin verpassen. Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper Phone: +41-44-422 86 25 FAX: +41-44-422 82 78 E-mail: ddd at daube.ch Web: www.daube.ch/
Checkboxes in numbered lists
Hello Doug, You can use FrameMaker to do this, but the implementation is awful. The problem is that FrameMaker doesn't provide a GUI like Word does to insert symbols, so you have to do it manually. In addition, the checkbox and the numbered steps will have to be separate from one another. You will have to use an invisible table to obtain the format you want. Note these steps only work in Windows as far as I know. With that said, here goes. 1. Use the character designer to create a new character format. Name the format Wingding. 2. In the Wingding format, specify the Family as Wingdings. Every other setting should be set as-is or left as default. 3. Create a generic paragraph style that has properties similar to Body. Call this paragraph style Checkmak. 4. In the Checkmark paragraph style, select the numbered tab. 5. If this is not already done so, select the Autonumber format check box. In the Character Format list, select the Wingding check mark that you created in the above steps. 6. Do NOT close the paragraph designer. 7. Minimize FrameMaker. 8. Select All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Character Maps. 9. In the Character Map window, there is a Font drop-down menu. From that drop-down menu, select Wingdings. 10. You will see several check boxes. Click one of the boxes you like. It will pop out. When that happens, press the select button. 11. You should see the character in the "Characters to Copy" field. Press the copy button. This means that the code for this character has been copied to your clipboard. This is a code that FrameMaker can read. 12. Maximize FrameMaker. 13. In the paragraph designer, paste the check box code into the Autonumber format field. After you have done that, you should have a bulleted paragraph style that creates a check mark next to each bullet point. Now, to acheive the layout you seek, create an invsible table that consists of two columns. Then, apply the Checkmark paragraph style to the first column and the numbered steps in the adjacent one. -- Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzini
