Today: 1-hr webinar, TW comments that cannot be ignored!
Free; no fluff, no hype, no nonsense; Thu, Jan 23, starting 10am PST Register at: https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/784496246 Often a writer will want to ask for clarification, ask for approval for a change the writer has initiated, or add a comment about a missing item for future reference. However, SMEs and reviewers do not always notice/respond to such notes -- which of course leads to additional iterations and frustrations. This webinar demonstrates how to create a dedicated paragraph format in FrameMaker, to be used to insert questions and comments. The style has a unique design intended to make the TW question/comment stand out. You can include automatic numbering to help identify a specific item. In addition, you can create a list of all TW comments as a generated file. Yet even with all of these techniques, writer's comments tend to be overlooked. The solution is to have these comments automatically appear as comments in the PDF, raising visibility and helping the SME/reviewer to jump from one comment to the next in the PDF. Optional: a message indicating the number/location of open TW notes can be displayed when the PDF is closed (through the DocWillClose action) (no add-ons necessary) Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://.microtype.com FrameMaker/Acrobat/Captivate training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies (was: FrameMaker 12 released)
At 11:28 -0800 22/1/14, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: The unhappy ones are probably the small users - like myself - who helped FrameMaker become what it is and Adobe *clearly* does not care about us anymore. That is unlike the founders of Frame Technology who I met many years ago ... and the founders of Adobe too, I would hope! Indeed: I suspect that the many small users such as myself (one seat since 1993) who have happily evangelized for FrameMaker, not through affection for Adobe, but simply because the tool is so damn *good*, do feel we are being shouldered out. FrameMaker has been the cornerstone of my professional life: I use InDesign, Acrobat, DreamWeaver and Illustrator too, but it would all have been impossible without FrameMaker, and over thirty published textbooks bear that out. Surely one of the key principles of running a successful company is keeping faith with its customers, no matter how small? -- Steve [the one wearing the 'FrameMaker for OS X' T-shirt at IPEX 2006] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12
I just downloaded the 30 trial version of FrameMaker 12. I have never used FrameMaker at all (although I have used its predecessor, PageMaker). I need to find a good tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and that begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FREE TC CAMP Sat 25 Jan workshop Santa Clara, CA; world premiere live demo FrameMaker 12
For any list members in the SF Bay Area, you have an opportunity to see the first live public demo of FrameMaker 12 this Saturday, Jan 25 at 8:45 AM, in a TC Camp workshop I'm giving at Mission College, Santa Clara. The free workshop is courtesy of Adobe's sponsorship of TC Camp. Other portions of the TC Camp later in the day require a modest fee; I attended last year and can highly recommend it. I hope to see some of you early Saturday morning when I will be sharing new features in Tech Comm Suite 5, FrameMaker 12, FrameMaker XML Author 12 and RoboHelp 11. Information on the session, with a link to register may be found at: http://bit.ly/1cWFVh6 Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.commailto:mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Frame Gang, I have a Frame 10 book with about30 to 40 chapters in it. When I save the book to PDF (output to individual PDFs) the TOC hyperlinks work just fine. I can open the TOC PDF, click a sub-heading within a chapter, and it opens that particular PDF to the exact heading. When I load all of the PDFs to our SharePoint site (SharePoint 2010) and try to access the sub-heading of a chapter from the TOC PDF, the hyperlinks opens the appropriate PDF, but it does NOT take me to the proper sub-heading. It just opens to the first page of the PDF. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix? Thanks for any advice! BBVA Compass Ben Anderson Quality and Change Management - Systems and Procedures Telephone: 512.371.4051 Fax: 512.371.4092 Mobile: 205.746.9310 Email: benjamin.ander...@bbvacompass.com Austin Main - 5800 N. MoPac St., Austin, TX 78731 TX-AU-AU-OFS Connect with BBVA Compass Find us on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/bbvacompass Follow us on Twitterhttp://twitter.com/bbvacompass Before you print this message please consider the environment. Antes de imprimir este mensaje, por favor considera el medio ambiente. BBVA Compass is a trade name of Compass Bank, a member of the BBVA Group. Compass Bank, Member FDIC. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client
I'd echo Syed's point here - We Tech Pubs folk have a habit of repeating something Dov Isaac's said over a decade ago like it's some kind of holy writ, but 10 computer years is about a century in real years ;) Things may well (and certainly ought to) have changed since then. I'd like to see a list of the actual DLLs and registry entries and blah blah that are involved before accepting that Adobe still haven't fixed this. (lol but then again, there are so many corners of FrameMaker that Adobe haven't fixed since they ported it off the NeXT, so who am I trying to kid... ;) ) The standard solution for this kind of issue is to have a virtual machine on which to test your customer experience. If you have Windows 8, it comes with Microsoft HyperV built in, you can create a virtual machine with a few clicks, install Reader in it, and play away to your hearts content. (Shock news: Windows 8 actually does have some useful new features in it, see? :) ) Another handy free virtual machine is Oracle's www.virtualbox.org Give one of these a try and never mess up your precious working environment ever again! David Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:45:58 -0800 From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net To: Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client Message-ID: b4c122abc82f8744a7e552ca009ba22a1a79e62...@ex-be-019-sfo.shared.themessagecenter.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I guess my reaction is that the information from Dov at that link you found is from 2004 - almost ten years ago... on Windows 98 and Windows XP systems apparently, etc. The results may be quite different today perhaps? Or maybe it is my approach of always installing Acrobat after Reader ... shrug Works for me (and I ain't boasting ... merely reporting. :) :)) *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys plc, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. You may contact Invensys plc on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies (was: FrameMaker 12 released)
My guess is Adobe's goal in creating FrameMaker XML Author and pricing it at $400 is to eliminate the cost savings incentive for structured FrameMaker users to switch to Oxygen or XMetal instead of adding more FM seats. Also, at $400, I doubt if FrameMaker XML Author is going to be able to compete with other XML editors out there. The idea is fantastic, but the cost needs to be around $100-150 a seat. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Giving some paragraphs a background colour with DITA
FYI - for those who haven't reviewed all new features in FrameMaker 12, a new Pgf box command is available on the Advanced Tab of the Paragraph Designer. Unlike single cell tables, the new paragraph background color creates a box of color than can break columns or pages. Naturally, these values can be replicated as format rules in the EDD. If you wish to see a brief video of this feature, you may view it here: http://adobe.ly/1g1ycpJ Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.commailto:mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Prentice Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:25 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Giving some paragraphs a background colour with DITA Hi Rebecca... For FM-DITA questions you'll probably get more replies by posting to the framemaker-dita Yahoo group. Applying coloring/formatting to paragraphs via @outputclass is fairly easy by adding context rules to the p (or whatever) element definition that check for a match of that outputclass value and assigning the necessary paragraph tag or style overrides. Doing the same with table cells is not so easy. While you can specify the overall table format based on the tgroup/@outputclass, there aren't any EDD context rules that you can use to assign properties to specific table cells or rows. Apparently FM11 added some new read/write rules that can assign these properties. I'm not familiar with setting these up, but you can read more about it in this post on the Adobe FrameMaker forum .. http://forums.adobe.com/message/6026704 BTW .. I'm in the process of developing a new feature in DITA-FMx that will allow you to specify outputclass values for rows and cells. This should be available in FMx 2.0 when that's released. Cheers, ...scott On 1/21/14 8:26 PM, rebecca officer wrote: Hi everyone We're going to be using FrameMaker (12) to output PDFs from DITA. We'd like certain paragraphs and/or table cells to have a background colour. Our specific usecase is that we produce multi-switch config examples. Sometimes, we find that each switch's content takes up more than a page, and that all the switches are nearly identical. It really helps if we can colour the content differently, so users (and us!) can see whether they're on switch 1, 2 or 3. We thought maybe outputclass would let us do this, but so far we haven't figured out how. We've found online references to doing this with the open toolkit, and for HTML with CSS, but nothing about Framemaker. Is there a way to use the outputclass attribute to style how some elements appear in FrameMaker? If not, is there another way to get the effect we're after? Thanks very much! Rebecca ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker 12: e-publishing options
FM12 multi-channel publishing does not require any other program from the tcs suite except FM12 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: At 06:16 + 17/1/14, Maxwell Hoffmann wrote: Early Reviews for #Adobe Tech Comm Suite 5 and FrameMaker 12 from TechWhirl - http://bit.ly/1cy87qchttp://bit.ly/1cy87qc The thing that really caught my eye here was the ability to output to ePub and Kindle. I would be *very* interested in any feedback that arises on how well this works. At present my clients subcontract Kindle work, at extra cost, and the results I've seen have been less than optimal. Were I able to offer e-publishing options for FrameMaker-developed books at low (or even zero) cost, it would justify the price of a 10-12 upgrade. The dream option would be to output to pre-press PDF and Kindle with zero extra work, but I expect it's more complex than that. (I know little or nothing about the Kindle format.) Also, does this require the entire TCS suite, or can it be done from FrameMaker only? -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as gapet...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gapeterb%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12
Hi David, Lynda.com has a FrameMaker 11 course, but since it just covers the basics anyway, it would be appropriate for FrameMaker 12. It will cost you $25 per month, but since you have a 30 day trial this will be just right. There are tons of great course on there that you will have access to for the monthly fee. No formal connection to them, just a satisfied customer. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Downing Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:48 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12 I just downloaded the 30 trial version of FrameMaker 12. I have never used FrameMaker at all (although I have used its predecessor, PageMaker). I need to find a good tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and that begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12
Here are some tutorials: http://www.prismnet.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/ http://wiki.scriptorium.com/tiki-index.php http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=framemaker%20tutorialsm=3 http://www.lynda.com/FrameMaker-training-tutorials/1059-0.html Lynda.com costs $25 a month for basic access. The others are free. They are all for older versions of FrameMaker, but the GUI hasn't changed much since version 9, so anything from 9 and above should be fine. Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 22-Jan-14 7:47 PM, David Downing wrote: I just downloaded the 30 trial version of FrameMaker 12. I have never used FrameMaker at all (although I have used its predecessor, PageMaker). I need to find a good tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and that begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12
Pick up a copy of Matt Sullivan's bible of FM - Publishing Fundamentals of FM11 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Downing Sent: January-22-14 12:48 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12 I just downloaded the 30 trial version of FrameMaker 12. I have never used FrameMaker at all (although I have used its predecessor, PageMaker). I need to find a good tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and that begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client
At 06:05 -0600 23/1/14, Davis, David wrote: If you have Windows 8, it comes with Microsoft HyperV built in, you can create a virtual machine with a few clicks, install Reader in it, and play away to your hearts content. (Shock news: Windows 8 actually does have some useful new features in it, see? :) ) Shock indeed. And for those working on Mac under Parallels or Fusion, virtual machines are a doddle (or so I'm told, and looking forward to finding out). -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client
Guys, you keep emphasizing that I used a quote of Dov's from 10 years ago-- and I did (9 years ago, actually). But I also included one other quote and a link to third message in the same post. These were from times more recent. One was from 2010, which was only one version back in Acrobat. I'd call that a recent quote. I'm also sure I've seen Dov say similar later, I just couldn't quickly find a quote to include. Anyway, do what you want regarding mixing Acrobat and Reader, but it's not really fair to grab the oldest quote of three and claim it makes all the advice old. Mike On 1/23/2014 6:05 AM, Davis, David wrote: I'd echo Syed's point here - We Tech Pubs folk have a habit of repeating something Dov Isaac's said over a decade ago like it's some kind of holy writ, but 10 computer years is about a century in real years ;) Things may well (and certainly ought to) have changed since then. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client
LOL! Say it isn't so! Dov's saying AREN'T holy writ!!?!? -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: January-23-14 9:31 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client Guys, you keep emphasizing that I used a quote of Dov's from 10 years ago-- and I did (9 years ago, actually). But I also included one other quote and a link to third message in the same post. These were from times more recent. One was from 2010, which was only one version back in Acrobat. I'd call that a recent quote. I'm also sure I've seen Dov say similar later, I just couldn't quickly find a quote to include. Anyway, do what you want regarding mixing Acrobat and Reader, but it's not really fair to grab the oldest quote of three and claim it makes all the advice old. Mike On 1/23/2014 6:05 AM, Davis, David wrote: I'd echo Syed's point here - We Tech Pubs folk have a habit of repeating something Dov Isaac's said over a decade ago like it's some kind of holy writ, but 10 computer years is about a century in real years ;) Things may well (and certainly ought to) have changed since then. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonasclub.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker freaks me out
At some point while editing yesterday, and I'm not sure what I was doing, *every chapter* in the book I'm working on started displaying all its text as if someone had picked it up and randomly scattered it across the page - complete loss of vertical leading, and sideways shifts as well. It was clearly something internal to FrameMaker's display engine, as opening unopened chapters showed the same thing. After nearly having a coronary, I closed down FrameMaker and then re--opened the book, and everything then looked fine, and has remained fine. I've never seen anything like this before, and it's probably shortened my life expectancy somewhat. Anyone else experienced this? [FrameMaker 7.0p577 for Mac] -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Book TOC Links Not Working in Sharepoint
Frame Gang, I have a Frame 10 book with about 30 to 40 chapters in it. When I save the book to PDF (output to individual PDFs) the TOC hyperlinks work just fine. I can open the TOC PDF, click a sub-heading within a chapter, and it opens that particular PDF to the exact heading. When I load all of the PDFs to our SharePoint site (SharePoint 2010) and try to access the sub-heading of a chapter from the TOC PDF, the hyperlinks opens the appropriate PDF, but it does NOT take me to the proper sub-heading. It just opens to the first page of the PDF. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix? Thanks for any advice! BBVA Compass Ben Anderson Quality and Change Management - Systems and Procedures Telephone: 512.371.4051 Fax: 512.371.4092 Mobile: 205.746.9310 Email: benjamin.ander...@bbvacompass.com Austin Main - 5800 N. MoPac St., Austin, TX 78731 TX-AU-AU-OFS Connect with BBVA Compass Find us on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/bbvacompass Follow us on Twitterhttp://twitter.com/bbvacompass Before you print this message please consider the environment. Antes de imprimir este mensaje, por favor considera el medio ambiente. BBVA Compass is a trade name of Compass Bank, a member of the BBVA Group. Compass Bank, Member FDIC. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker freaks me out
Hi Steve, Fortunately I never experienced something like this. What I would do immediately before closing files or FrameMaker: Copy the whole folder to a temp folder. If FrameMaker does not work correctly, it could also damage the files when closing. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:57 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker freaks me out At some point while editing yesterday, and I'm not sure what I was doing, *every chapter* in the book I'm working on started displaying all its text as if someone had picked it up and randomly scattered it across the page - complete loss of vertical leading, and sideways shifts as well. It was clearly something internal to FrameMaker's display engine, as opening unopened chapters showed the same thing. After nearly having a coronary, I closed down FrameMaker and then re-- opened the book, and everything then looked fine, and has remained fine. I've never seen anything like this before, and it's probably shortened my life expectancy somewhat. Anyone else experienced this? [FrameMaker 7.0p577 for Mac] -- Steve This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker freaks me out
At 11:10 -0500 23/1/14, John Sgammato wrote: I've seen it once or twice in the past 20 years - closing and restarting FM worked. Then our statistics match, John - for me, once in 21 years ;-) I attribute it to sunspots. Or in my case, possible cat fur. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker freaks me out
Steve, Occasionally my FrameMaker display will go a little berserk. Nothing as serious, so far, as you relate, but similar. Also, there are times when I will delete a graphic, but it remains on the screen, and I know I deleted it. It may be due to a long standing bug in Frame related to refreshing of the display. You might try Ctrl+L (Refresh) one time and see if it has any effect. Or, check if there are any updates to your video drivers. Another possibility. Dave On Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:58 AM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: At some point while editing yesterday, and I'm not sure what I was doing, *every chapter* in the book I'm working on started displaying all its text as if someone had picked it up and randomly scattered it across the page - complete loss of vertical leading, and sideways shifts as well. It was clearly something internal to FrameMaker's display engine, as opening unopened chapters showed the same thing. After nearly having a coronary, I closed down FrameMaker and then re--opened the book, and everything then looked fine, and has remained fine. I've never seen anything like this before, and it's probably shortened my life expectancy somewhat. Anyone else experienced this? [FrameMaker 7.0p577 for Mac] -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FW: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12
From: hessiansx4 [mailto:hessian...@yahoo.com] Sent: January-23-14 11:23 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: Re: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12 The Adobe Classroom in a Book series should have something for FM 12 and takes about 40 hours from start-to-finish; it starts with very basic functionality. You can skip the advanced functionality until you're more comfortable with the tool. NOTE: InDesign is more PageMaker-like and I like it, but I don't think it's not included in TCS. The latest FM version has some of the PM look and feel. Have fun! On Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:59 AM, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.commailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com wrote: Pick up a copy of Matt Sullivan’s bible of FM – Publishing Fundamentals of FM11 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Downing Sent: January-22-14 12:48 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12 I just downloaded the 30 trial version of FrameMaker 12. I have never used FrameMaker at all (although I have used its predecessor, PageMaker). I need to find a good tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and that begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as hessian...@yahoo.com.mailto:hessian...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/hessiansx4%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com.mailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker freaks me out
At 08:16 -0800 23/1/14, David Spreadbury wrote: Occasionally my FrameMaker display will go a little berserk. Nothing as serious, so far, as you relate, but similar. Also, there are times when I will delete a graphic, but it remains on the screen, and I know I deleted it. It may be due to a long standing bug in Frame related to refreshing of the display. You might try Ctrl+L (Refresh) one time and see if it has any effect. Yep, the refresh bug: I do ctrl-L a lot. But this was something else altogether. Or, check if there are any updates to your video drivers. Another possibility. I'm on Mac: I don't think we have those ;-) -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker freaks me out
Steve Rickaby wrote: At some point while editing yesterday, and I'm not sure what I was doing, *every chapter* in the book I'm working on started displaying all its text as if someone had picked it up and randomly scattered it across the page - complete loss of vertical leading, and sideways shifts as well. It was clearly something internal to FrameMaker's display engine, as opening unopened chapters showed the same thing. After nearly having a coronary, I closed down FrameMaker and then re--opened the book, and everything then looked fine, and has remained fine. I've never seen anything like this before, and it's probably shortened my life expectancy somewhat. Anyone else experienced this? Happened to me once quite a while back - all tables, in particular, were totally messed up. And, as you noted, a re-start of FrameMaker showed everything was fine - whew! Since then, I have relied on two things: 1. A daily incremental backup schedule that backs up all my changed files every 2 hours (using ShadowProtect from www.storagecraft.com). So that I can recover if I need to. 2. A manual copy of all the FrameMaker files associated with a document into a directory called BACKUP, below the working directory, *just* before I kick off a new editing session - particularly if it has been a few days since I last worked on something. So, that I have a prior editing session version available. And, of course, the problem has not recurred since then ... (my belief: carrying an umbrella prevents rain from falling! :)) Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client
Mike, point taken. Dr. Reng said the same thing too. Perhaps ... a different question that may be more interesting: Do people here feel that it is necessary to check a PDF in a Reader only environment if that PDF looks fine in Acrobat? Because, I have yet to see one of my files pass Acrobat rendering and fail to show in Reader. (In my approach, both programs would use the same available fonts though.) If I stop doing that final check, it would just be a bit simpler final process for me. BTW, with my approach, both programs would still find the same fonts available, so missing fonts is effectively not something I check anyway! I just avoid it by having Acrobat embed the fonts as needed. Z Mike Wickham said: Guys, you keep emphasizing that I used a quote of Dov's from 10 years ago-- and I did (9 years ago, actually). But I also included one other quote and a link to third message in the same post. These were from times more recent. One was from 2010, which was only one version back in Acrobat. I'd call that a recent quote. I'm also sure I've seen Dov say similar later, I just couldn't quickly find a quote to include. Anyway, do what you want regarding mixing Acrobat and Reader, but it's not really fair to grab the oldest quote of three and claim it makes all the advice old. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker freaks me out
At 10:42 -0800 23/1/14, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: Since then, I have relied on two things: DropBox is my friend ;-) -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker freaks me out
Since then, I have relied on two things: DropBox is my friend ;-) Yes, indeed! I do daily backups stored on multiple disks - both here and at home - for safety. I use DropBox, but not for these backup files ... yet ... Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client
On 1/23/2014 1:17 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: Do people here feel that it is necessary to check a PDF in a Reader only environment if that PDF looks fine in Acrobat? I don't normally feel it is necessary. My understanding has always been that Reader is basically the viewing portion of Acrobat. So if it doesn't look right in one, it won't look right in the other. I see Acrobat as Reader, plus a bunch of other features that we have to pay for. I don't know if that's accurate, but it's my impression. Having said that, there are a few times that I've found it necessary to check a file in Reader (on a separate computer). I've never seen any differences in _appearance_ (assuming that I remembered to embed all fonts, which I always do because I have my joboptions set to do so by default), but I have seen problems in functionality. Examples include forms that didn't work in Reader, but did work in Acrobat, because I had some setting wrong. Or the review feature not working-- again, because it wasn't set up right beforehand. So I may check a form in Reader, or a PDF being sent out for review. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
When you created the PDF, did you selected Named Destinations or something
like that?
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Subject: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Frame Gang,
I have a Frame 10 book with about30 to 40 chapters in it. When I save the book
to PDF (output to individual PDFs) the TOC hyperlinks work just fine. I can
open the TOC PDF, click a sub-heading within a chapter, and it opens that
particular PDF to the exact heading.
When I load all of the PDFs to our SharePoint site (SharePoint 2010) and try to
access the sub-heading of a chapter from the TOC PDF, the hyperlinks opens the
appropriate PDF, but it does NOT take me to the proper sub-heading. It just
opens to the first page of the PDF.
Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix?
Thanks for any advice!
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Re: FrameMaker freaks me out
I've seen it once or twice in the past 20 years - closing and restarting FM worked. I attribute it to sunspots. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: At some point while editing yesterday, and I'm not sure what I was doing, *every chapter* in the book I'm working on started displaying all its text as if someone had picked it up and randomly scattered it across the page - complete loss of vertical leading, and sideways shifts as well. It was clearly something internal to FrameMaker's display engine, as opening unopened chapters showed the same thing. After nearly having a coronary, I closed down FrameMaker and then re--opened the book, and everything then looked fine, and has remained fine. I've never seen anything like this before, and it's probably shortened my life expectancy somewhat. Anyone else experienced this? [FrameMaker 7.0p577 for Mac] -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- http://www.actifio.com/*John Sgammato, Documentation Architect* *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com *c* 508.927.2083 *t* @actifiodocs http://twitter.com/actifiodocs 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 http://twitter.com/actifio http://www.linkedin.com/company/399246 https://plus.google.com/102870897962348937868/posts http://www.youtube.com/user/actifiohttp://www.actifio.com/ *Radically simple copy data management * *.* ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker freaks me out
Steve Rickaby wrote: At some point while editing yesterday, and I'm not sure what I was doing, *every chapter* in the book I'm working on started displaying all its text as if someone had picked it up and randomly scattered it across the page - complete loss of vertical leading, and sideways shifts as well. It was clearly something internal to FrameMaker's display engine, as opening unopened chapters showed the same thing. I've seen this occasionally in the past, though rarely on freshly opened files. In my experience it's a display issue that doesn't affect the data in the document. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12
David, just be sure you do not compare FrameMaker to PageMaker. Two different worlds, one long gone and replaced by InDesign. FrameMaker is more like a very able text processor with focus on text content, rather than layout of individual pages. Be sure you cover master pages, format tags and catalogs. Enjoy, Urszula Witherell www.jetsetcom.net | www.trainingonsite.com 301.524.3165 Sent from iPad On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:47 PM, David Downing david.h.down...@gmail.com wrote: I just downloaded the 30 trial version of FrameMaker 12. I have never used FrameMaker at all (although I have used its predecessor, PageMaker). I need to find a good tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and that begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as urszulawither...@jetsetcom.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/urszulawitherell%40jetsetcom.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
It wouldn't hurt anything - I think it just might make the PDF larger that's all
From: Anderson, Ben [mailto:benjamin.ander...@bbvacompass.com]
Sent: January-23-14 3:57 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Hi Jeff,
No, I didn't select that. Should I try??
Thanks,
--Ben
From:
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 7:57 AM
To: ('framers@lists.frameusers.com')
Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
When you created the PDF, did you selected Named Destinations or something
like that?
From:
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]mailto:[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Anderson, Ben
Sent: January-22-14 3:51 PM
To: ('framers@lists.frameusers.com')
Subject: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Frame Gang,
I have a Frame 10 book with about30 to 40 chapters in it. When I save the book
to PDF (output to individual PDFs) the TOC hyperlinks work just fine. I can
open the TOC PDF, click a sub-heading within a chapter, and it opens that
particular PDF to the exact heading.
When I load all of the PDFs to our SharePoint site (SharePoint 2010) and try to
access the sub-heading of a chapter from the TOC PDF, the hyperlinks opens the
appropriate PDF, but it does NOT take me to the proper sub-heading. It just
opens to the first page of the PDF.
Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix?
Thanks for any advice!
BBVA Compass
Ben Anderson
Quality and Change Management - Systems and Procedures
Telephone: 512.371.4051
Fax: 512.371.4092
Mobile: 205.746.9310
Email: benjamin.ander...@bbvacompass.com
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RE: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12
Total ignorance is probably overstating it, but one fundamental fact you have missed is that PageMaker and FrameMaker do *not* have a common ancestry. What they have in common (besides the coincidental similarity in their names) is that they were both acquired as mature products by Adobe. PageMaker was originally developed by Aldus Corporation with the original Macintosh version released in 1985 and a version for Windows 1.0 two years later. The company and its products were acquired by Adobe in 1994, and the product was eventually discontinued in 2004. FrameMaker, on the other hand, was originally developed by an astrophysics grad student at Columbia. An entrepreneur saw a demo version running on a Sun workstation and formed a company, Frame Technology, to commercialize it circa 1985. Originally it ran only on SunOS, but it was also ported to other flavors of UNIX in its early years. In 1990 a Mac version appeared, and a Windows version followed two years later. The lower-cost Mac and Windows versions killed the sales of the much more expensive UNIX version and the company's sales and profit steadily slid toward zero before Adobe purchased them in 1995. Also, the two products do not (or rather, *did* not since PageMaker is a dead issue) the same thing. PageMaker was intended for things like brochures, newsletters, and magazines, where each page is likely to have a different layout. FrameMaker is intended for long documents (e.g. books) with consistent, repetitive page layouts. It can do page-by-page layouts, but not very flexibly and not very efficiently because that's not what it was designed for. -Fred Ridder From: urszulawither...@jetsetcom.net Subject: Re: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:24:16 -0500 To: david.h.down...@gmail.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com David, just be sure you do not compare FrameMaker to PageMaker. Two different worlds, one long gone and replaced by InDesign. FrameMaker is more like a very able text processor with focus on text content, rather than layout of individual pages. Be sure you cover master pages, format tags and catalogs. Enjoy, Urszula Witherell www.jetsetcom.net | www.trainingonsite.com 301.524.3165 Sent from iPad On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:47 PM, David Downing david.h.down...@gmail.com wrote: I just downloaded the 30 trial version of FrameMaker 12. I have never used FrameMaker at all (although I have used its predecessor, PageMaker). I need to find a good tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and that begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Hmm..must be something to do with PDFs and security maybe? If that were the
case I wouldn't have expected them to work at all. Maybe it's got something to
do with SharePoint?
From: Anderson, Ben [mailto:benjamin.ander...@bbvacompass.com]
Sent: January-23-14 4:42 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Still doesn't seem to work.
All of the PDFs work just fine on my local drive and on our company's shared
drive. But, as soon as I push them to SharePoint and view them there, the
links still only take you to the first page of the PDF, not the sub-heading
within that PDF (i.e., page 3 or 4).
From:
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 3:00 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
It wouldn't hurt anything - I think it just might make the PDF larger that's all
From: Anderson, Ben
[mailto:benjamin.ander...@bbvacompass.com]mailto:[mailto:benjamin.ander...@bbvacompass.com]
Sent: January-23-14 3:57 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Hi Jeff,
No, I didn't select that. Should I try??
Thanks,
--Ben
From:
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 7:57 AM
To: ('framers@lists.frameusers.com')
Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
When you created the PDF, did you selected Named Destinations or something
like that?
From:
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]mailto:[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Anderson, Ben
Sent: January-22-14 3:51 PM
To: ('framers@lists.frameusers.com')
Subject: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Frame Gang,
I have a Frame 10 book with about30 to 40 chapters in it. When I save the book
to PDF (output to individual PDFs) the TOC hyperlinks work just fine. I can
open the TOC PDF, click a sub-heading within a chapter, and it opens that
particular PDF to the exact heading.
When I load all of the PDFs to our SharePoint site (SharePoint 2010) and try to
access the sub-heading of a chapter from the TOC PDF, the hyperlinks opens the
appropriate PDF, but it does NOT take me to the proper sub-heading. It just
opens to the first page of the PDF.
Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix?
Thanks for any advice!
BBVA Compass
Ben Anderson
Quality and Change Management - Systems and Procedures
Telephone: 512.371.4051
Fax: 512.371.4092
Mobile: 205.746.9310
Email: benjamin.ander...@bbvacompass.com
Austin Main - 5800 N. MoPac St., Austin, TX 78731
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RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Well, you could test that assumption by using Firefox. Have you checked the
Adobe FM forums for FM/SharePoint posts? I know there's been some chatter on
the subject...
From: Anderson, Ben [mailto:benjamin.ander...@bbvacompass.com]
Sent: January-23-14 5:01 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Good point...or it may have something to do with Internet Explorer. I'll keep
digging...I'm sure I'm not the first person to experience this.
Thanks again for your help, and if you think of anything please send along!
--Ben
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 3:47 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Hmm..must be something to do with PDFs and security maybe? If that were the
case I wouldn't have expected them to work at all. Maybe it's got something to
do with SharePoint?
From: Anderson, Ben
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Sent: January-23-14 4:42 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Still doesn't seem to work.
All of the PDFs work just fine on my local drive and on our company's shared
drive. But, as soon as I push them to SharePoint and view them there, the
links still only take you to the first page of the PDF, not the sub-heading
within that PDF (i.e., page 3 or 4).
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 3:00 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
It wouldn't hurt anything - I think it just might make the PDF larger that's all
From: Anderson, Ben
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Sent: January-23-14 3:57 PM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Hi Jeff,
No, I didn't select that. Should I try??
Thanks,
--Ben
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 7:57 AM
To: ('framers@lists.frameusers.com')
Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
When you created the PDF, did you selected Named Destinations or something
like that?
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On Behalf Of Anderson, Ben
Sent: January-22-14 3:51 PM
To: ('framers@lists.frameusers.com')
Subject: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint
Frame Gang,
I have a Frame 10 book with about30 to 40 chapters in it. When I save the book
to PDF (output to individual PDFs) the TOC hyperlinks work just fine. I can
open the TOC PDF, click a sub-heading within a chapter, and it opens that
particular PDF to the exact heading.
When I load all of the PDFs to our SharePoint site (SharePoint 2010) and try to
access the sub-heading of a chapter from the TOC PDF, the hyperlinks opens the
appropriate PDF, but it does NOT take me to the proper sub-heading. It just
opens to the first page of the PDF.
Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix?
Thanks for any advice!
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Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies
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Opening FM 9 via Remote Desktop crashes
Hi, I have FM 9 (latest patch) running on Windows 7. I want to use FM via Remote Desktop. If FM is already open, I have tested opening/editing/saving a FM file sucessfully. If i click on the taskbar where FM is pinned to launch the application, the typical FM error screen is shown after a few seconds. I have FrameScript and do have a start-up file; I removed it and redid the test with a similar FM crash. Any suggestions? B...Here in Quebec CIty it is -35 Celcius with the wind and has been like that for a week now. As I walk 30 minutes to and from a bus stop on weekdays, I have taken to wearing a hood used when skiing! I look like a thief who is smoking heavily but do not attract any attention. After a 1/2 hour of walking, even my snacks (chewy bars) are frozen! And the polar bears drinking the Pepsi look so happy in those ads :) Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur ? la documentation et r?dacteur technique senior | Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software sobrien at innovmetric.com<mailto:sobrien at innovmetric.com> T (1) 418.688.2061 F (1) 418.688.3001 [cid:image001.jpg at 01CF1856.F1A91D80]<http://www.polyworksconference.com/> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT?/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement ? InnovMetric Logiciels inc. ou ? ses filiales. Si vous n'?tes pas le destinataire indiqu? dans ce message (ou responsable de livrer ce message ? la personne indiqu?e ou pr?vue) ou si vous pensez que ce message vous a ?t? adress? par erreur, vous ne pouvez pas utiliser ou reproduire ce message, ni le livrer ? quelqu'un d'autre. Dans ce cas, veuillez le retourner ? l'exp?diteur et le d?truire. Proprietary confidential information belonging to InnovMetric Software Inc. and its affiliates may be contained in this message. If you are not a recipient indicated or intended in this message (or responsible for delivering this message to such a person), or you think for any reason that this message may have been addressed to you by mistake, you may not use or copy this message, or deliver it to anyone else. In which case, notify the sender and destroy the e-mail. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20140123/7ce651ec/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 48959 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20140123/7ce651ec/attachment.jpg>
Opening FM 9 via Remote Desktop crashes
I haven't tried to do FM with a Remote Desktop, but the first thing that occurred to me is that the program may not be executing with Admin privileges. Are all the user permissions in order on both sides of the desktop? Just as a control, you may want to try a third party solution such as CrossLoop (my choice) or GoToMyPC... I think they're both free trials. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Stephen O'Brien wrote: > Hi, > > > > I have FM 9 (latest patch) running on Windows 7. I want to use FM via > Remote Desktop. > > > > If FM is already open, I have tested opening/editing/saving a FM file > sucessfully. > > > > If i click on the taskbar where FM is pinned to launch the application, > the typical FM error screen is shown after a few seconds. I have > FrameScript and do have a start-up file; I removed it and redid the test > with a similar FM crash. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > B?Here in Quebec CIty it is -35 Celcius with the wind and has been > like that for a week now. As I walk 30 minutes to and from a bus stop on > weekdays, I have taken to wearing a hood used when skiing! I look like a > thief who is smoking heavily but do not attract any attention. After a 1/2 > hour of walking, even my snacks (chewy bars) are frozen! And the polar > bears drinking the Pepsi look so happy in those ads :) > > > > *Stephen O'BRIEN* > Coordonnateur ? la documentation et r?dacteur technique senior | > Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer > InnovMetric Logiciels | Software > sobrien at innovmetric.com > *T *(1) 418.688.2061 > *F *(1) 418.688.3001 > > <http://www.polyworksconference.com/> > > AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT?/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir > des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement ? InnovMetric > Logiciels inc. ou ? ses filiales. Si vous n??tes pas le destinataire > indiqu? dans ce message (ou responsable de livrer ce message ? la personne > indiqu?e ou pr?vue) ou si vous pensez que ce message vous a ?t? adress? par > erreur, vous ne pouvez pas utiliser ou reproduire ce message, ni le livrer > ? quelqu?un d?autre. Dans ce cas, veuillez le retourner ? l?exp?diteur et > le d?truire. Proprietary confidential information belonging to InnovMetric > Software Inc. and its affiliates may be contained in this message. If you > are not a recipient indicated or intended in this message (or responsible > for delivering this message to such a person), or you think for any reason > that this message may have been addressed to you by mistake, you may not > use or copy this message, or deliver it to anyone else. In which case, > notify the sender and destroy the e-mail. > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20140123/a97ea743/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 48959 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20140123/a97ea743/attachment.jpe>
Opening FM 9 via Remote Desktop crashes
Salut a chilly Toronto! Has this ever worked for you? I run FM via RDP from home most days, but I first VPN into our corporate network, the RDP to my office desktop (when FM is installed) and run it from there. No crashes (except the "known" ones) doing it that way. In your scenario, where is FM running? From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen O'Brien Sent: January-23-14 4:26 PM To: Frame Users (framers at lists.frameusers.com) Subject: Opening FM 9 via Remote Desktop crashes Hi, I have FM 9 (latest patch) running on Windows 7. I want to use FM via Remote Desktop. If FM is already open, I have tested opening/editing/saving a FM file sucessfully. If i click on the taskbar where FM is pinned to launch the application, the typical FM error screen is shown after a few seconds. I have FrameScript and do have a start-up file; I removed it and redid the test with a similar FM crash. Any suggestions? B...Here in Quebec CIty it is -35 Celcius with the wind and has been like that for a week now. As I walk 30 minutes to and from a bus stop on weekdays, I have taken to wearing a hood used when skiing! I look like a thief who is smoking heavily but do not attract any attention. After a 1/2 hour of walking, even my snacks (chewy bars) are frozen! And the polar bears drinking the Pepsi look so happy in those ads :) Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur ? la documentation et r?dacteur technique senior | Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software sobrien at innovmetric.com<mailto:sobrien at innovmetric.com> T (1) 418.688.2061 F (1) 418.688.3001 [cid:image001.jpg at 01CF185C.76D01540]<http://www.polyworksconference.com/> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT?/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement ? InnovMetric Logiciels inc. ou ? ses filiales. Si vous n'?tes pas le destinataire indiqu? dans ce message (ou responsable de livrer ce message ? la personne indiqu?e ou pr?vue) ou si vous pensez que ce message vous a ?t? adress? par erreur, vous ne pouvez pas utiliser ou reproduire ce message, ni le livrer ? quelqu'un d'autre. Dans ce cas, veuillez le retourner ? l'exp?diteur et le d?truire. Proprietary confidential information belonging to InnovMetric Software Inc. and its affiliates may be contained in this message. If you are not a recipient indicated or intended in this message (or responsible for delivering this message to such a person), or you think for any reason that this message may have been addressed to you by mistake, you may not use or copy this message, or deliver it to anyone else. In which case, notify the sender and destroy the e-mail. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20140123/46954da6/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 48959 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20140123/46954da6/attachment.jpg>
